Fantasy Football Today - Rankings Updates, Fantasy Combos and RB News (08/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

What was the biggest news you may have missed over the weekend? Dave and Jamey start with their thoughts on the Lamar Jackson news, Theo Riddick to LV and Ronald Jones dropping everything in practice. We'll also tell you which RB is moving up to Round 2 (7:10) ... Fantasy combos (14:45)! Which pairing would you rather have: Patrick Mahomes and D.K. Metcalf or Kyler Murray and Kenny Golladay? And we've got more combos to debate, plus a listener bold prediction (20:15) and rankings risers from Dave (23:45) and Jamey (32:21). Dave has his eye on Damien Harris and Bryce Love. Jamey is moving Jonathan Taylor and Preston Williams up ... Rankings fallers from Jamey (39:00) and Dave (46:40). Jamey's list includes J.K. Dobbins and Melvin Gordon while Dave is not so interested in T.Y. Hilton or Kerryon Johnson ... Your emails at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Sunday night. Three weeks away from the first Sunday of the season. Cannot wait, baby. Let's get it going, man. Welcome to Fantasy Football today on this Sunday night, August 23rd, as I look at my computer to tell me the date.

I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. What's up, fellas? How's your weekend going? Another quiet weekend in the books because they're not going to be so quiet three weeks from now. I share your enthusiasm. I cannot wait for the football. The football. I've been enjoying the basketball. I've been watching. I thought you weren't enjoying the basketball. Well, I've been trying to enjoy it. Look, the NBA, for as long as we can remember just has a big problem with

the last minute or two of the game. It's just really bad and they have to fix it. What's the problem? It takes too long and they eliminated a timeout to speed it up and then they added these reviews and they review everything and it's just... Have you not seen the last two minutes of any half of pro football

for the last 25 years? I don't think it's as bad. It doesn't feel as bad to me. Sometimes it takes forever. Yeah, I guess I just like football more than basketball. You're a Knicks fan. Yeah, but I'm a Giants fan. You know, that's like, what kind of argument is that? I'm a Knicks fan. I'm a Giants fan.

They're basically as bad. I was with a buddy today, and he is a Jets, Mets, and Knicks fan. And that's like a trifecta of misery. That's terrible. I went to college with a kid who was a Yankees, no Braves,

Cowboys, Bulls fan. Everybody in the world hates that guy. All right. In the nineties. Yeah. Yeah. So what was the

biggest news item of the weekend? Dave? Well, other than the scare of positive COVID-19 tests that turned out to be false positives, good news, season back on. Lamar Jackson, soft tissue injury, not practicing.

Maybe not the biggest thing because it sounds like he's going to be back at practice soon but first the raven said he's getting a rest day his arms tired and that wouldn't be a good thing and then they said he's got a groin injury and that's not a good thing either so um something to just keep in mind it's not going to change a ranking or anything like that but it's not good yeah Yeah. He's hopefully going to be back on Monday. I think they said back on Monday, if Jackson's not back on Monday, we can react again. But that was something that certainly caught our eye. I said news, but it could be any

type of development, Jamie, anything really stand out to you over the, over the weekend? There were two, the freaking out over Josh Jacobs because of theoretic signing. And, you know, I can't wait. I hope he's going to say yes. So this is my public plea to Victor Ford to come on to CBS Sports HQ as part of our fantasy beat. Hopefully he listens because he just basically – I like when guys, you know, say, hey, fantasy managers, calm down.

Josh Jacobs is still going to be involved in the passing game. He's not going to catch 60 passes. But Theo Riddick is added for depth if he makes the final roster. If you want an example, see Jeremy Hill. And the other thing was people freaking out over Ronald Jones dropping a pass in practice. That was... Four passes. Four passes. Well, the one that everybody saw.

Right. But apparently... Sorry, Jamie, but apparently he dropped four. LaShawn dropped one. Keyshawn dropped one. Right. I think they have a bad quarterback. Well, you know, that's probably true, but if you're in the Ronald Jones camp,

you want to see that happen because then it's going to keep him in a good spot for you on draft day. Yes. And on the Josh Jacobs front, he had 20 catches last year in 13 games. He was on pace for 25 catches. He was the number 12 running back in non-PPR per game,

number 15 running back in PPR per game, and he only scored seven touchdowns, and that was on 262 touches. There's obviously, you know, he's on pace for 323 touches and nine touchdowns, 1,600 total yards. He doesn't need to catch 50 passes to be really good, but he probably needs to score more touchdowns, I think, to be a first round pick. He's not going in the first round,

but if you want him to return first round value, probably need double digit touchdowns out of Jacobs. Would you agree with that? Because since we don't think he's going to get 50 catches and it's very attainable, I'd say. Well, he may get 49 just to screw you up. What if he gets 48? 48 for getting it.

I don't think 50 catches is in the cards, but I'll just stick with what I've been saying all along, that 35 to 40 would be great. Anything north of 40, you'd be thrilled with. And so if he gets to that number, plus what he showed you as a rusher last year, if that can be replicated, especially over a 16-game pace where he was in the conversation to lead the NFL and rushing in the conversation in terms

of carries. So he's got that type of, uh, that type of upside. It's the passing numbers that have to come along with it. And like I said, if you panic over, uh, Ronald Jones dropping passes and you're panicking over theoretic joining the roster, if you're on the flip side of that, that just means better value for a player that you want to target. That 50 catch Mark, by the way, I want to reiterate. It's top five running backs almost always get 50 catches.

Top 12 running backs, no. The guys who finish 6-12, they often don't. So it's a good thing. It's not a requirement. Right. Nobody, I think, is expecting Josh Jacobs to be top five without a lot to happen to go his way. But 6-10 is where I think he'll finish. That being said, I don't think it should shock you if he ended up with 50 catches this year. He

can do it. It's just a matter of whether or not the coaching staff wants to let him do it. And Richard is good. Richard is the one that I'm worried about. I don't even know if Riddick's going to make the final roster. To me, that could have been about Devontae Booker not being good, and they're just looking for another guy.

And Bowden's going to be just a few catches a game, if that. I think he's got a shot at 50 or 90. Last thing here. Justify, if you are doing this, justify taking Josh Jacobs over Austin Eckler in a PPR league. I'm not. I don't think you should. Again, you're looking at what the receptions mean to

a player in PPR and what the targets mean to a player in PPR. That's going to offset some of those things. In Eckler, the hope would be, I'm sure Heath would tell you this, that he takes a good portion of those 200 touches that are available from Melvin Gordon, especially the carries. So you're going Eckler over Jacobs and PPR and PPR.

Yeah. But in non PPR, I'm taking Jacobs easy. I just ate on the air for the first time. I think ever I raisins. Welcome to the club, Adam. Yeah.

Oh, well, he's got the sunflower seeds going on my second box of raisins today. All right. So Lamar Jackson's big news, Josh, Josh Jacobs, big news.

I don't, I honestly cannot remember what we covered on the podcast on Friday. It's starting to blend in, but we've had these beat writers on HQ all week, and you need to be watching CBS Sports HQ live noon Eastern, Monday through Friday. You can watch on CBSSportsHQ.com, or better yet, download the HQ app, watch on your phone,

watch on your Roku, which I do. But James Conner is going to be a workhorse, apparently. And Mark Ingram, you know, I think Shraggy B

was excited about what he heard about Mark Ingram. So how about the Conner thing, the Conner news item, which I don't think we talked about on Friday. Right, Ben? We did not.

I don't think so. Okay. So what's the news here? Let's get that story straight first, so then we can react to it. I mean, Mark Cabali of The Athletic said a few things that were interesting. The James Conor one was one that we sent out on Twitter on the FFT account that got a lot of buzz, and it was that Conor's still going to be the workhorse there. You know, Mark said what I think, you know, a lot of people realize

if you look at the Steelers history under Mike Tomlin that they're going to continue to use one guy. He said Benny Snell will get a series or two. McFarlane will, you know, sort of have to find his way to get a niche role essentially. But if Conor's healthy and, you know, as Mark said, that's the key. He's going to be what he was in 2018 what levion bell has been what the angel williams has been when lemme on wasn't there and so that's the you know uh scenario that you have to buy into so i moved

connor up into the second round um i think when you look at what his what his outlook could be i think there should be 15 running backs now in round two. You know, you gotta, you gotta obviously take it with the understanding of, you know, he's he's an injury prone running back. But the other thing that he said on top of that was Benny Snell will be the guy, the backup guy, you know?

So if you're looking for the handcuff or a late round pick, you know, a lottery ticket type of guy, Benny Snell's coming in great shape. Mark has written this. I don't think he said it in the interview, but Le'Veon Bell, second season, better shape. James Conner, second season, great shape. Mark has written this. I don't think he said it in the interview, but Le'Veon Bell, second season, better shape. James Conner, second season, better shape.

Benny Snell's following suit, second season, better shape. So losing weight, you know, trimming up his body, getting himself ready for what could be a big workload if we see Conner go down. And then just quickly, the other things that he said was that Juju's going to have a monster season and that Deontay Johnson is everything that, that you know is being advertised from the fantasy community that if you're buying in so um i i know that caught keith's attention because keith is uh you know

i think more of the well james washington's good camp and deontay still has a way to go and i'm sure he does but um you know mark kind of confirmed i think a lot of things that that we were thinking he also said eric ebron could have a chance for a good season, too. Yeah, I read his story on Ebron about how he's making plays in practice and he's going to be a red zone monster and all the things that he was in Indianapolis. And it's just not – apparently he had a practice this weekend or something like that where he started to drop the ball a little bit.

And that's always been a problem with him going especially in annapolis i think it's the reason i think it's the reason why he's not on the colts anymore but yeah eric ebron could be an interesting week one streamer because he's taken on oh yeah good call that depleted secondary you can literally take them you can take your dst and your kicker first because half the people in your league are not going to want to draft Eric Ebron. Yeah, he said a motivated Eric Ebron is a good Eric Ebron. Right now, he's motivated. A lot of mouths to feed in that offense. Look, I mean, that's obviously

a lot of optimism about the Steelers, right? But they very... That's why Ben's a top five quarterback. Look, he could be right. They're obviously... If Ben is right, they're a Super Bowl contender. Yep. Their defense is the best in football. Yep.

I don't understand. Okay, wait. I'm trying to find the spread for week one. Yeah, what the? Three and a half? They're going to kill the Giants. They're going to kill the Giants. I bet that goes up as Roethlisberger's report continues.

Get it now. Yeah, of course you get it now. Yeah, three and a half point favorites. So I'll start doing this every Sunday. Well, for the next two weeks. What we have coming up this week is we're talking NFC North. We have

Lions, Vikings, Packers, and Bears, and Riders from all those. I won't say everybody, just until they're confirmed. Dave Burkett of the Detroit Free Press is going to join us on Monday. So we'll get an update on DeAndre Swift, who left practice, I believe, on Friday with an injury. Hopefully he's okay. And we'll find out how good Stafford and Jones could be coming back all day in a breakout season

and how relevant Kerryon Johnson should still be. All right, I'm going to just wrap this whole thing up here. We've got rankings risers and fallers coming up. We've got fantasy combos. We've rankings risers and fallers coming up. We got fantasy combos. We've got the listener hot take of the day. We've got your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We were hoping to have

on today, but could not make it unfortunately. Also, if you want your questions regulated, your fantasy league issues regulated, I will spare you the music, but we'll do some fantasy regulators

throughout the week. No, no, no. You're playing the music. Okay. I got to find it. Sorry. Oh, so that's what it is. You weren't ready for it. There you go. Okay. Anyway, Dave, final question is for you. All right.

Is James Conner a second-round pick for you? Yes. Okay. You could try to get him in round three. Obviously, you'd prefer to get any player that we say is a second-round pick a round later than that or whenever. But, yeah, he was in my top 20 going into the weekend, and he still is. Okay.

With that said... Can I say one quick thing on the Lions running backs? Yeah, and then I actually have the big news of the weekend that we forgot, but go on. All right. Matt Patricia was on SiriusXM NFL Radio, and when they asked him about DeAndre Swift, he couldn't stop talking about how he likes to use multiple running backs. Wah, wah. he couldn't stop talking about how he likes to use multiple running backs. And the other big news is that Dave has shaved,

but his goatee is kind of there. You can't really tell what's happening. I went a little too far with my tremor. You've had a goatee for how long? Oh, God, since college, except for when I lost a bet. Right, that's over, that's 20 years. Yeah, it doesn't look like I have one much right now.

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Would you rather have Michael Thomas and Josh Jacobs or Dalvin Cook and Chris Godwin? What's the format? PPR. Glad you asked. The Michael Thomas side maybe not PPR I'll say it again

Michael Thomas and Josh Jacobs or Dalvin Cook and Chris Godwin yeah let me change my answer to Cook yeah Cook and Godwin PPR you just can't ignore it there's there's a chance Godwin comes within 25 catches of Michael Thomas,

and Cook should have at least 25 more catches than Josh Jacobs, provided that he can stay on the field. Jamie, what's your answer? I saw Ben Gretsch get into an argument with somebody who was contending that he should have, because he released his rankings, which you should check out, because they're not on the rankings page on our site,

which is an oversight on our part. But Ben has, as I think everybody does, Kamara over Cook. And the person arguing with him was saying that Cook should be ahead of Kamara, which if he's right, in terms of Dalvin Cook, I mean, it wouldn't be a stretch. You know, we saw him. No, not at all. Those 13 games last year was pretty impressive so i think you're looking at you know dalvin in ppr should be a lot better than josh jacobs and your poll is incorrect because you call him josh jacob so you made up i'm wondering if i

ran out of letters i think i may have run out of characters as i do see now it says josh jacob well josh jacob and michael thomas actually got 67.5% of the vote. So it looks like you guys are incorrect or the listeners or you're calling our listeners stupid. So either way, great options. Twitter poll number two. You made up a player. So maybe they think you're talking about somebody else. Josh Jacobs is the past

catching all purpose back on the Raiders. Okay. Would you rather have George Kittle and Devin Singletary or Aaron Jones and Darren Waller? Would you rather have Kittle and Singletary or Aaron Jones and Darren Waller?

That's a good one. I would rather have What format? PPR. Kittle and Singletary. Take the best player. So wait, Kittle's ahead of Aaron? I don't know, Jay. I think Aaron Jones is ahead of Kittle for you.

No? Okay. Well, on half PPR, I know you took Jones over Kittle. But not in full? No. All right. So you're going Kittle and Singletary. Dave?

I think I'm going to go Kittle and Singletary too. There does seem to be some traction to Zach Moss getting more than just the Frank Gore role in Buffalo. Apparently he's been really, really impressive. We might have talked about this last week about how Zach Moss has started

to play really well in practice and he's catching the ball in practice and it took Singletary a little while to get going this year, but now he has been getting going. I think he had like one of his best practices over the weekend. Could be more of a tandem than we were initially believing there, but could see a similar tandem in Green Bay.

We know that there's two other running backs that Aaron Jones has to work with. And Waller almost certainly will see fewer targets this year than he did last year yeah there was there was actually a report um i don't even know who this guy is jim i was sarfsky it was a red jim o o w c a r c z a r c i i met him he used to work in cincinnati now he's in green. Yeah. I'm just looking at Roto World. And it says Packers beat report Jim O. Said A.J. Dillon's role could change during the season, but he doesn't expect major usage in the early going.

I mean, that's a good sign for Aaron Jones. It's kind of why I moved him back up because of the offseason, the lack of prep for A.J. Dillon. Last Twitter poll. PPR, which combo would you rather have? Patrick Mahomes and DK Metcalf or Kyler Murray and Kenny

Galladay? This is a runaway right now, by the way. Mahomes and Metcalf or Kyler Murray and Galladay? I'll take Murray and Galladay. Especially if you're looking at ADP. Well, I used Fantasy Pro's ADP, and I picked a quarterback.

This was a combination. All of these combos are basically based on ADP. You want the early round quarterback and the mid-round wide receiver, or do you want the early round wide receiver and Gallaudet and Kyler Murray instead of Mahomes and Metcalf? All right, Jamie's going with Murray and Gallaudet.

Dave? I am too. Murray and Gallaudet. Dave? I am too. Murray and Gallaudet. Okay. Well, 29.4% of the vote. Murray and Gallaudet, 70.6% like Mahomes and Metcalf. Interesting. What about the middle poll?

Did you say the results for that one? No, I didn't. Sorry. Kittle and Singletary, 54.6%. Aaron Jones and Waller, 45.4%. Close. Yeah, yeah. All right, thank you.

That was a fun round of fantasy combos. I think there's still a large swath of the general fantasy playing universe that will gravitate toward those top quarterbacks early on in draft day. So that's probably why Mahomes got so much of the vote. I don't think they're voting for DK. I think they're voting for Mahomes.

Yeah, probably. Figuring mega stud, tons of points each week. That's who I'd want. It's time for a new segment. Perhaps the only time we'll have it. Listener hot take of the day. This is from Cassidy. Hot take for the year. CeeDee Lamb is the best receiver for

the Cowboys and finishes top 15 in PPR. I guarantee it. Run with it. Guarantees are never wrong. Yeah, right. I am starting... Listen, I loved him when he came out, and I loved him

when the Cowboys picked him. And Jamie brings it up all the time that at one point during the offseason, I had Lamb ranked ahead of Gallup. I'm starting to wonder if you avoid Amari Cooper on draft day and go get the other two Cowboys receivers, and one of those two should be amazing for fantasy. And the other one could be a good flex for the year. And their values are great right now.

I mean, Gallup, you might see him pushing around five eventually, if he's not there already, I'm not sure what his ADP is, but lamb's ADP can't be that high. I, you know,

I think that he's got a real, everybody is going crazy over what he's doing in practice. He is 117th right now. Yeah, that's amazing. And so I think as far as pure talent goes, Lamb might be... I think he'll eventually be the best one. He's probably not quite the best one yet.

But opportunities, I don't know how many there are to go around for three big time pass catchers in Dallas. But I think I'd, I think I might start trying to cook up a strategy where I get Gallup and lamb on my fantasy team. So her, her bold prediction is lamb is top 15 and PPR. AJ Brown was top 15 and non PPR last year,

but he was something like 20th in PPR. I think the last time a rookie wide receiver finished top 15 in PPR was the Beckham Evans year. I don't think it's happened in the last five years since then. So that is a really, really tough, um, Mark to crack.

Brown was 21st. That was the highest of AJ Brown of all the rookies last year. Really, really tough mark to crack. Brown was 21st. That was the highest of A.J. Brown of all the rookies last year. So keep that in mind, but it is a bold prediction. Why did I read this? Because the follow-up email from Cassidy is why I read it, okay? Cassidy says, I was hoping you'd share my hot take on C.D. Lamb, and in return, I will donate to the Scott Fish Bowl or whatever fundraiser you'd share my hot take on CD lamb. And in return, I will donate to the Scott fish bowl or whatever fundraiser you'd like.

So I usually don't accept bribes to get on the show, but if you're going to donate and have us talk about CD lamb, that is fine with me. So Cassidy, thank you. Uh, fantasy cares. Is that where we should send Cassidy?

Yes, you can, or you could do St. Jude's, you know, for the, how about that? Let's donate to St.

Jude. That would be incredible. Either one is, is obviously take whatever you were going to donate to one, cut it in we're going to use. Yeah, how about that? Let's donate to St. Jude. That would be incredible. Either one is obviously a great choice. Take whatever you were going to donate to one, cut it in half, and donate to both. And then Cassidy went on to say, to me, you're truly a great person

and I appreciate your character in a world of so much darkness right now. There's no way that that was to you. Everything up to that point was terrific email and then it just went off the rails. And then we've got the, how come this never happens in my league of the day? I've been going through a bunch of my emails today.

Somebody, one of our listeners traded Justin Tucker for Leonard Fournette. That's a little too much Leonard Fournette hate. Yeah. How come this never happens in my league? Justin Tucker for Leonard Fournette. All right, let's do rankings, risers, and followers here. I got a lot of news to get to later on in the show, but

let's start. I asked you for three risers, three followers. Dave, give me your three risers, and then we'll talk about the first one. I gave you Damien Harris, Phillip Lindsay, and Antonio Gibson, but I probably should have given you Bryce Love instead of Antonio Gibson. Good. Let's sub it. It's just more and more

love for love. Don't you feel like... I'm sorry. Don't you feel like Gibson's going to be overdrafted? Well, I mean, I've got somebody in Washington telling me that he looks great as a running back, too. Like, not only is he doing amazing things. I can't see the work path. That's the problem. Well, let's talk about it.

What could the workload be? Because Adrian Peterson's definitely going to be involved as long as he's upright. Coaches love him. True pro. Talented guy. Can just wonder if he's going to be a little too gadgety or they use Gibson plus something else because, I don't know, maybe they're just a little too thin at wide receiver right now. Once you've got McLaurin and Sims, Dontrell Inman's going to light the world on fire. I don't know. Maybe they get Gibson out there. So I think Bryce Love can end up getting the rest.

And you go back and you watch Bryce Love playing college and just fast, good pass catcher out of the backfield. Wish he played with more power. I wish I knew what his body type was like right now and how much weight he had on him. Did he put on a little extra armor while he was recovering from the ACL? It sounds like he might have

because Ron Rivera's talking about him like he could be an eventual three down back. Well, Dave, let me ask you this. I think the last time he talked about somebody doing that was Christian McCaffrey. So you've got both those guys, Harris and Love, and they both have a chance to become the lead back for their teams. Harris for the Patriots, Love for the Redskins. Who would you take first? I think I'm still taking Harris first, even though he's got the same type of problem. He's got to share with James White. There's no doubt about that.

James White's going to have his usual role. And if Cam Newton's a quarterback and it looks like he will be, what happens when the Patriots get inside the three-yard line? They could hand off to Harris, and I think he can do good in that role he did at Alabama or Cam Newton can do what Cam Newton does and score from short yardage I know we talked about that last week so not a new hot subject for the podcast but I think Harris does have potential

to finish as a number two running back certainly in non-PPR whereas Love and Gibson might have that potential in full PPR, but you don't have to draft them that way. None of these guys. I don't think Harris is going to go into round seven anytime soon. I think that's a reach. Unless Sonny Michel's on the pop list and the Patriots running backs coach said that he thinks that Michel will be ready to play week one. So that is the story you got to follow is what's going to happen there. They still have an active ready. Will he be ready? I don't know. I mean, that's the question, you know, and if you're again, and you're in Damien Harris camp, these are the type of things that sway how you end up getting him one way or the other, you know, so if Michelle is on the pop list, the rush for Damien Harris is going to be there if he's not.

And, you know, he's, you know, cleared in some capacity cleared for week one, but still not playing, still not practicing, you know, then it bumps Harris down a little bit and that makes it a better value pick. And, you know, you can still get six weeks out of Harris being the guy until Sony Michelle is maybe doing anything or it could be three weeks or it could be one, but there's also the Lamar Miller factor looming. That's the thing. You got to gauge. Yeah but i i mean how how effective could those running

backs be if they're just you know doing individual stuff on the side and not participating i mean we're still three weeks away i don't know if it's even fair to say for miller just because he's a veteran and he's been around and sony has too that they could just like, you know, it's like riding a bicycle. They get right back into it. I think that there's a legitimate chance here for Harris to. Oh, I, I, I totally agree. I'm just, you know, the other side of it is again, if you are buying into Damien Harris,

which I think everybody should, because what we know right now is Michelle's hurt and Lamar Miller is not active. So you should be looking at a guy who's been turning heads in practice and getting an opportunity to showcase himself as the potential starter. But if you are buying into it and you want to try and drive down the price, you should be saying to your friends and should be, you know, talking about it, you know, cause I mean, a lot of this is regional too. You know, when you, when you, when you have guys like this that, oh, look, Sonny

Michel is getting some positive reports, or Lamar Miller is close to being active. Those are the last two things that we've seen from the Patriots, which we're never going to give you an accurate answer on what the status of these guys are. So yeah, I mean, I agree with everything Dave said. You know, I would take love. I would take the value of love over Gibson. Gibson's ceiling is probably higher at this point, but love may end up being the best running back for Washington

just based on a 35-year-old in front of him and a converted wide receiver who hasn't had more than 50 carries in his career. But who would you take, Jamie, love or Damian Harris? I would take Harris in non-PPR. I would take Love in PPR, but they're so close. I think you can make an argument either way. In half PPR, I would take Harris as well. I'll go Harris. Do I have Love ahead of Gibson already in PPR? That can't be right.

I'm looking at my rankings. I have Gibson ahead of Harris right now in full PPR. I guess that makes sense. To me, I take the other side, right? Because what is the best we're going to get from Gibson? He's not going to be a factor on the ground. Tariq Cohen or James White.

That's an 80 catch guy. I can't see him getting as a rookie 80 catch. That's the best case scenario for him is him being that type of player. I think as a rookie, that's 70 catches. I don't think that happens, but I think, look, the thing with Harris and with Love and Gibson,

they need Adrian Peterson to go away. They're never going to hit their ceilings if Peterson's there. But what if they're so bad that they just say, all right, look, sorry, Adrian Peterson,

second half of the year. I hope so. Right? Yeah. You know, that probably doesn't exist on the Patriots where it's much more likely on the Redskins. There's one more thing.

Look at this offensive line for Washington. Look at the offense in general for Washington. I don't think it's going to be conducive to effective rushing. It was last year. It was all right last year. Probably because they ran so much. Right, exactly. And I don't think they will nearly as much.

I think throwing to the running backs is going to be a much bigger part of their offense. And that's what love can do. And that's what Gibson can do. That's what love can do. I love it, Dave. All right. Philip Lindsay is, uh, anyway, the point is I, I think between rounds eight and 11, and it might literally be eight, nine, 10, you could get all three of these running backs on your squad. I don't want to do that. That sounds like a terrible idea. You kind of know who does. Who? Dave, Ben? Ben Gretch.

But I just don't see what is the upside of Gibson. It's like all he could be is strictly a PPR guy and I feel like a bi-week replacement. If he's not going to have any carries. If he gets five for 50 and does a Chris Thompson gig every week,

then that's at least the same. Yeah, we don't know. Five every week. We don't know how Washington is fully going to use him. All right, all right. Move on. Philip Lindsay, Dave.

It's starting to look like he's going to take some more work than anticipated away from Melvin Gordon. So I moved him up in my rankings. To where? And ahead of who? He's going to be right more work than anticipated away from melvin gordon so i moved him up in my rankings to where and ahead of who he's he's going to be right in that same range as the running backs that we're talking about in non-ppr ppr he's going to be behind him because i still don't see him having a viable role as a pass catcher um sorry ahead of who i don't know if he's necessarily going to be ahead of those guys. I said he was going to be in the same range as those guys.

Oh, Lovin Harris? Yeah. Okay. Oh, I have him a lot farther ahead of those guys. Well, sure. But I think they're pretty close. And in non-PPR, I think he could be ahead of Gibson pretty easily. Can we just say Gibson has probably no use in non-PPR, right?

He would be a stunner if he was no use in non-PPR, right? He would be a stunner if he was a starter in non-PPR. Yeah, Lindsey, Melvin Gordon's a little banged up right now. Would you take Phillip Lindsey or a Lions running back? I would take Swift over Lindsey. I have both Lions over Lindsey, but I have Kerryon and Lindsey back-to-back. Okay.

Especially with Swift banged up right now. Let's go to Jamie's risers. Jonathan Taylor, Preston Williams, and Chris Herndon are your risers. All right. So Jonathan Taylor, Preston Williams, Chris Herndon,

let's start with the rookie running back, Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. I mean, you know, the report, he's living up to the billing right now. So it's,

uh, you know, nice to see. And, you know, I, I always expect it to be a split. Um,

you know, when the off season, everything they killed preseason, I adjusted all the rookies and where I had Taylor, which was in the top 20. expect it to be a split um you know when the offseason everything they killed preseason i adjusted all the rookies and where i had taylor which was in the top 20 i put him at 23 in non-ppr 24 25 and ppr and now he's back in the top 20 i mean you know you just look at what his opportunity is and if he hits you know it's uh it's a play on him being better, depending on format, over the Melvin Gordon, David Johnson, Le'Veon Bell group.

So, you know, I'd rather take my chances with the upside of him versus the downside of what those guys are looking like right now. Even in PPR, you're taking Jonathan Taylor over those guys? I'm taking Le'Veon over him in PPR. But, you know, he's still, I would take him over Gordon because it looks like Gordon's going to share a pretty close to 50-50 split. Lindsey's getting rave reviews, as Dave just said, and he's actually making plays in the passing game, so we'll see what Melvin Gordon's upside is as a pass catcher there. And then, you know, the

group of David Johnson, Mark Ingram loses in PPR, as we know. I'm not going to trust Leonard Fournette, and I'm not there yet with Ronald Jones over Jonathan Taylor. All right. And Preston Williams channeling Heath Cummings here. Did you move Preston Williams ahead of where Heath has him? That's what I want to know. I don't think I've put him up to five yet.

But I've been moving Preston Williams up with every positive report. And Joe Shad, who covers the Dolphins for the Palm Beach Post, I used to work with Joe. He had a story in his notebook or a note in his notebook about preston williams turning heads of practice and you just look at it you know with with the two guys that they've lost in in hearns and wilson and the fact that he's healthy and what he was doing before the acl and it's seemingly looking like ryan fitzpatrick's going to start more games than to a taga vailoa There's a lot of targets available. There's a big opportunity there.

And he's, he's a physical freak that, you know, took advantage of his opportunity last year and put himself in a good spot this year. So if he's healthy, he's got, you know,

top 30 upside. I don't, I don't want to go too crazy. Heath is probably a little bit more excited about him, which he should be. He's been on all over Preston Williams for two years, but like I moved ahead of Anthony Miller, you know how much I think of Anthony Miller.

So I think, you know, that's a guy that, wow. Yeah. Miller still hasn't been clear with his shoulder. He's, he's not going,

you know, full go yet. So that, that's making me a little nervous. You know, we got a negative report essentially on Alan Lazard. If you want to start putting guys in that range, you know,

I think Preston Williams, I'm glad Cassidy's excited about C.D. Lamb, but I would take Preston Williams over C.D. Lamb right now because I think there's more targets available. Jerry Judy, Dylan Rager, I would take him over those guys, over Henry Ruggs. I had him

in the mid-40s. Now he's closer to 37, 38. I think he's the number three receiver with upside. Your last rankings riser was Chris Herndon. Yeah. We talked about this a few times. You know, the opportunity is there in terms of targets. I think, you know, you're going to see how Sam Darnold operates. We saw him as a rookie, you know, 36 catches, 540 some odd yards and five touchdowns, four touchdowns, five touchdowns, whatever it was. You know, he's,

he's got a chance to build off that he would have, I think built off of it last year as a sophomore touch, a sophomore tight end. And the thing, you know, that I keep coming back to is Sam Darnold played nine games with Ryan Griffin as the starting tight end last year, he scored five touchdowns in those nine games. So if Herndon just takes that, that workload and Griffin was, you know, a streaming tight end last season with the way he was

performing, certainly in deeper leagues. So Herndon's now in that conversation for me with the two sophomores of Fant and Hawkinson, Johnnie Smith. I would take him ahead of Austin Hooper and Jared Cook, because I don't think there's much upside with the two veterans compared to, you know, some of these other guys. For me, he's right behind Gusecki right there with Blake Jarwin. You know, that's another guy I like a lot.

So, you know, those two guys for me are, are the, if I miss on, on, on a tight end, I'm looking in this order,

Gusecki, Herndon, Jarwin, and I have no problem taking two of those. Okay. I got to say, Chris Herndon and David Njoku were teammates in college. If Chris Hernan ends up being better than David. And the bigger disappointment would be Njoku. Yeah, for sure.

You may have realized pretty early on that that could have been the case. Pouring a little bit of cold water, though, on Hearn and just one thing is week one is at Buffalo. Buffalo was one of the few teams that genuinely seemed to be great against tight ends last year. I mean, he's going to have some struggles, clearly.

You don't have to start on week one, but he's to be on your radar. Go back to what Dave said, Ebron and Herndon, that's not a bad pairing to see how it plays out. But the idea is that Herndon could end up becoming a consistent starter for your team. I'm not a huge Herndon fan, but

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Securian Canada. Insurance designed for life. Going to Jamie's rankings followers, he's got three running backs. J.K. Dobbins, Melvin Gordon, and Miles Sanders. Melvin Gordon is in what? His sixth year? Or his fifth? I think his fifth. Fifth makes sense. Okay. So let's start with Dobbbins why is he falling i just think we're going to see a scenario and you know maybe i'm buying into a guy that i trust

uh jeff's rebeck who was on our show on hq covers the ravens for the athletic he said to said to me on the show that he's fighting for Gus Edwards touches and Gus Edwards isn't completely getting benched. And then he doubled down on that with what he wrote over the weekend, that it's going to be those guys picking up the scraps behind him. And they don't really know what role they're going to use Dobbins. And yet he is an unbelievable lottery ticket. If Mark Ingram goes down, because if he gets that opportunity, he's going to be a rock star. And I think that's why you bank on him for being a huge fantasy player in 2021. But if Mark Ingram stays healthy and he's been healthy more times than not, then I think it's going to be tough for J.K. Dobbins

to be successful. So I had Dobbins just behind the other two rookies that are typically going to be the fifth, sixth round guys of cam makers and Deandre Swift. I've now moved him behind Zach Moss and I put him behind the, the two veteran guys that I think you see, you know, in that round seven, round eight range of Marlon Mack and carry on Johnson. So Dobbins, I just think you have to treat as a good backup running back on a team. That's going to run the ball a lot.

And there's 130 carries that he could potentially get, but I don't know if he's going to get much more than that. And I don't know how involved he'll be in the passing game. Okay. And Miles Sanders is kind of obvious. How far did you drop him as he's dealing with this week to week injury? Yeah. As I told you, when we talked before the show, I don't think I did drop him. So, um, you know, we, I know we were talking about this. I was trying to come up with a third guy and that was our conversation. But I just think you have to look at it.

It's more of an overall thing, not really a running back thing. So I dropped him more, I think, I'm sorry, I did drop him actually. So I'll back up. Take that.

In non-PPR. So I would actually take Derrick Henry over him and you know what I think about Derrick Henry. Oh. I think Miles Sanders is a back-end round one pick now in non PPR.

Is he a first round pick in PPR? He's still a first round pick in both. But I was always taking Henry in the first round in non PPR, but back end. And I don't typically see him going there. But in PPR, yeah, he's in that 10 to 12 range. What I'm hoping for is that the Eagles are just taking exceptionally precautionary measures with him

and that what he's got going, it doesn't sound like it's very serious, even though they list him as week to week, but maybe they're just going to try and put him in bubble wrap until the week before their opener against Washington. Hopefully. And Melvin Gordon is your third follower. Dave's moving Philip Lindsay up. Jamie's And Melvin Gordon is your third follower. Dave's moving Philip Lindsay up.

Jamie's moving Melvin Gordon down. You put Jonathan Taylor ahead of him? Yep. I would take Taylor. Yep. I mean, I guess I get it. I wrestle so much with Jonathan Taylor. Figuratively.

Figuratively. Offensive line is fantastic. Yep. Absolutely. Opportunity is huge if marlin max there but if you're talking about melvin gordon sharing 50 50 and john taylor's sharing 50 50 i'll take the younger wisconsin back at this point sure uh ppr you know it it's uh it's certainly probably it's certainly a different argument because gordon should be more involved in the

passing game but we don't really know what they're going to do with Jonathan Taylor. We're just speculating because of the other guys that they have there. So if Gordon is not in that 50 catch range, which is kind of where he's lived a little, you know, for when he's not at his best, it could be a little bit of struggle for him. So he's not in the round three range for me anymore. I wouldn't take him to round four. It's not just that for Melvin Gordon. It's also, is he living in the 10 plus

touchdown range, which he's lived in for a long time in his career. Yeah, it's been nine touchdowns every year, but his first year. Right, right, right. And last year, he probably would have had 10 if he had actually shown up at the beginning of the year and not held out. It's

getting to be a closer call. I think Melvin is starting to become, you know, you talk about your bridge running back, shaming, you've got Aaron Jones and James Connor and Chris Carson. Melvin is the troll under the bridge, but he's still somebody who like might be able to help you. He's it's,

it's getting uglier for him as, as the days go by, but I don't know if I've got another running back that I feel more comfortable taking ahead of him. And the problem that I have with Jonathan Taylor is a 50-50 split. It could end up being 33-33-33. They've got three running

backs there, and Hines is locked into that passing role. I don't know if that's the case. It seems to be the case. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, you remember me following the draft, before the draft, you know, I thought Hines was going to be a 70-catch guy, you know, you remember me following the draft and before the draft, you know, I thought Heinz is going to be a 70 catch guy. You know, he's averaged 54 catches in his career. And then you get Phillip Rivers who this is what he loves. And so even after the

draft, you know, I said, I wasn't going to move Heinz, but I mean, I think you've heard me say this before. It wouldn't be surprised if, you know, you look at their three best backs in order Taylor's seemingly the most talented based on what his pedigree is. Mac would be second. And then Heinz would be third. Well, why would you want to take Mac completely out of the picture and maybe use him as the pass catcher,

not to the same level that you would use Heinz if it was just Heinz. But I think if you're just looking at it as, okay, how do we keep Mac involved and active and part of this offense and maybe make Taylor's role a little bit bigger? Well, use Mac as a passing situation. I don't know this to be true.

I'm just guessing. Sure, we're just speculating here, and I appreciate it because I'm trying to get a grip on Taylor. You and Ben Gretsch and a lot of other people, you're running away with Taylor like he's going to be the stud, and I could totally see it happening, but as long as there's other bodies there who have done a good job, maybe not a great job, but a good job for Indianapolis.

I think they, I think the Colts have the benefit of time here and they could ease in Jonathan Taylor and it would hurt his ability to, to hit that upside. And that's why I'm, I'm not ready to take them with the top 50 pick yet. Jamie, you mentioned, you said 50 50 split from Melvin Gordon and Phillip Lindsay. Is that what you're expecting? That's what we're hearing. I mean, you know, you said 50-50 split for Melvin Gordner and Phillip Lindsay. Is that what you're expecting? That's what we're hearing.

I mean, you know, that's the report that we got from Fangio that he said, I don't feel like I have to name a starter. Yeah, but he didn't say it's going to be a 50-50 split. No, the speculation based on what he said was a 50-50 split. Not to me. I mean, it wasn't a 50-50 split last year. For who? For Freeman and Lindsey.

Lindsey is, as a rusher, the best player that Melvin Gordon has shared a backfield with. Maybe. I mean, Eckler's very good. As a rusher. Yeah. I love Phillip Lindsey.

I was very disappointed last year, but I still think you bring in Melvin Gordon. I feel like 50-50. 60-40. If you're looking at it from Philip Lindsay and everything that he's done, you know, he

put in work on his body, put in work. It's essentially like everything Dave has reported about Ronald Jones. Philip Lindsay's done the same thing. Put weight on, spent a lot of time working on his role in the passing game. Well, then how could you like him? You don't like him, got running backs, put weight on. I don't. This isn't necessarily like Phillip Lindsay to me is not.

He's a riser. I think I agree with Dave. I would take Phillip Lindsay as a good number three running back and a half. But Melvin Gordon is, first off, we haven't even said, he's battling a rib injury. Yeah, I did mention that know so right it doesn't sound like it's a big deal but i agree but you know it's the whole it's the whole package starting to come together you know you have a guy who's back-to-back thousand yards as a undrafted rookie who's done nothing but been awesome since he's been with this team and yes there are metrics that don't make him a top tier running back.

His pass blocking, his pass catching, his route runs, all those things you want to throw into it. But he's not somebody that you just say, okay, go away. It's the same thing. You just don't say Marlon Mack, go away. Carry on Johnson, go away. He's good. Yeah, for sure.

All right. So go ahead. Finish up. I'm just looking at it. Again, we're nitpicking with these guys. So I don't think you completely avoid Melvin Gordon. I don know i i don't want to go back to dave's uh pick by pick number three team where he took him in in round three because as dave said i had to get a running back like i don't think you should subscribe to that with him but if that's round four it makes a little more sense okay all right uh dave i hate to do this to you, but I just want to get to the news and hopefully some emails.

Let's go through your followers. Give me some thoughts. Carryon Johnson, T.Y. Hilton, Rob Gronkowski. Let's start with Carryon. Carryon had some interesting quotes recently when they asked him about his knee brace. He's wearing a knee brace first of all. That typically isn't a good thing, but he says he's one with the knee brace.

Then when they asked him about what he might be learning from DeAndre Swift, here's the quote. Well, I can't learn anything from Swift because the way Swift's knees bend and hips work, I can't do any of that. So when he comes up and does his little shaky bake, whatever, I can't do that. So I just say, good job. Maybe do this a little better or maybe do that. But you got open. It's hard to tell somebody who got open, don't get open. So, I mean, he's doing an excellent job. So it almost sounds like he's resigned to the fact that he's not as talented or as flexible and versatile as DeAndre Swift. And despite that, the Lions are still probably going to use multiple running

backs because that's just patricia's theory why why would he use a great three down running back potentially in deandre swift when he's got carry on johnson to take some of the work away i just don't want carry on on my team okay so i'm moving them just south south south so i know that it would have to take me drafting with nine or eleven clones of myself to actually get carry on Johnson on my team. What do you think happens, Dave, if he stays healthy? What's your projection for that backfield if carry on plays 16 games? Oh, if he were to end up playing 16 games, I still don't know if he's as talented as DeAndre Swift is. I just see Swift as the better football player and certainly the more explosive and speedy runner

between the two of them at this point. I don't think the Lions drafted DeAndre Swift with the idea of, yeah, he'll be a great compliment to Kerryon Johnson. I think they realize that Kerryon Johnson isn't as good as they thought he was. And they might be resigned to the fact that he could be brittle. And he was brittle in college, and now he's been brittle in the pros.

So his role, maybe the split eventually, maybe the Lions come to their senses and they do it sooner than later, especially if they're talking about using Swift in like a Camara-type role, where Kerryon Johnson gets, maybe he gets what we were originally thinking for Phillip Lindsay, which is around 10 carries per game. Maybe that becomes 10 touches because carry on can catch the ball, but I don't, I don't think he gives them nearly as much explosiveness as Swift does. I just wish Swift were practicing every day because the reports before that

were mostly good. You know, Patricia wasn't tipping his hand and he was kind of, you know, backhand complimenting Swift about some of the things that he did. But if the Lions are smart, they'll want to try and get their running backs involved in the passing game more. That would help

Matthew Stafford. That would diversify the offense more than they have in the past. And Swift is very good at that. He's got great natural hands. Another follow-up for you is T.Y. Hilton. Where'd you move him? He continues to move down for me. I think I've got him either in round six or out of round six, just because I'm not quite sure he's the same receiver that he was before. I look at what the Colts did this offseason by drafting Michael Pittman,

drafting Jonathan Taylor, and I think they're going to try and be versatile. And I know Phillip Lindsey's in camp, and I know he's throwing well and doing great, and maybe Hilton does lead the team in targets, but I don't think he comes back and finishes as a top 20 or even top 24 wide receiver. I think you saw some of his efficiency metrics fall last year uh his his average depth of target fell yards per catch fell he's never been a big touchdown magnet they've got a lot of options in the passing game and now they've got three running backs that could end up taking some work away and easing the pressure off of philip rivers

who's what 38 39 years old it would only make sense if they try and diversify a little bit. So I think the target share is going to go down for T.Y. Hilton because of it. So fewer targets, not nearly as effective as he was previously. I'm going to let somebody else draft T.Y. Hilton this year. Would you take a Texans wide receiver or T.Y. Hilton? I think I've got them ranked really close to each other, and I would probably be at the point now. I don't know if I could do it.

I don't know if I could do it. TY might be just ahead of Cooks and Fuller. But remember, I'm different when it comes to Will Fuller. There's a lot of people that see the upside in Will Fuller. If you're one of those people, it's easy to take Fuller ahead of TY. All right. Rob Gronkowski, your final faller. Again, just a lot of pass catchers in that offense,

and Gronk is just now starting to round into form. I'm really starting to buy into the idea that he'll be a lot of touchdowns, not a lot of playing time, not a lot of yardage, might have a lot of games under 50 yards this year, which makes him a touchdown-dependent fantasy tight end. So who did you move ahead of him, or who did you move him behind? Hurst is ahead of him for me now, and he was ahead of a lot of people. Hurst was ahead of Gronk for a lot of people.

And I think I'm probably going to move Austin Hooper ahead of Rob Gronkowski, too. All righty. So to recap, Jamie's three risers were Jonathan Taylor, Preston Williams, and Chris Herndon. Dave's three risers were Bryce Love, Damon Williams, and Chris Herndon. Dave's three risers were Bryce Love, Damian Harris, and Phillip Lindsey. Jamie's fallers were J.K. Dobbins,

Melvin Gordon, and sort of Miles Sanders. Dave's fallers were Kerryon Johnson, T.Y. Hilton, and Rob Gronkowski. In terms of news items that we may have missed, Daryl Henderson has a mild hamstring injury, I believe. Yes. He had a scrimmaged on Saturday.

Yeah, so we're keeping our eyes on the Rams' backfield right now. Malcolm Brown got the first carry in their scrimmage. Nick Chubb's out of the concussion protocol. It doesn't seem like there's a reason to draft Keyshawn Vaughn right now. Is that fair to say? Looks like he's going to be returning kicks. Yeah, late round, late round, late round lottery ticket, just in case Ronald Jones goes down. Josh Kelly

could be gaining ground on Justin Jackson already. Lovely to hear that. Yeah. That one we saw coming. Brandon Iyuk has a leg injury. Man, they can't get a healthy receiver. No. No, they're snakebitten. It's kind of a shame. It's going to be interesting to see

how, like, I're snakebitten. It's kind of a shame. It's going to be interesting to see how, like I could see Kendrick Bourne being the week one waiver wire claim. Like he goes out and has two touchdowns in like 70 yards. Kendrick Bourne? Yeah. Like that's the type of guy that you're going to. They've got Arizona week one.

They might put Peterson on him who else are they going to put? Peterson on Kittle maybe that could be interesting. Oh yes please that would be awesome if they put Peterson on him I don't know I would you know what I wouldn't even care I would pay to see it I bet they would they Kittle would get

plenty of targets and I'm sure Peterson would win some of the time and Kittle would win some of the time that would be a lot of fun you know what they should do they should put Isaiah Simmons on George Kittle would get plenty of targets, and I'm sure Peterson would win some of the time and Kittle would win some of the time. That would be a lot of fun. You know what they should do? They should put Isaiah Simmons on George Kittle. Let's see how that goes. I think that's why they drafted him. I think that is,

but I don't think week one of his rookie season with no preseason games is the right time to put Isaiah Simmons on George Kittle. Let's go to the emails. Finish the show here. Cameron in a town south of St. Louis. Uh, Little Rock, Arkansas. Dear Freddie, Ronald, Ozzie, and Dansby.

Come on, Jamie. Freddie, Ronald, Ozzie, and Dansby. Freddie, Ronald. Shortstops. Come on, Jamie. No, they're not shortstops, Schrager. They're Braves. It's not Ozzie Smith. It's Ozzie Albies.

And it's Freddie Freeman and Ronald Acuna. Schrager chimes in. They could be shortstops, too. Maybe. We could probably find some Freddies that played shortstop. All right. Anyway, I noticed there's a group of running backs I would normally target in the late first and early second rounds that have the same buy. Joe

Mixon, Miles Sanders, Nick Chubb, all in week nine. Would this change your strategy at all if you're going RBRB? The first two picks, they had the same buy. Would that bother you? I wouldn't love it, but you know, what are the buys? Week nine.

You got time to prepare. Okay. From Steven, I have a question about Zach Ertz. Last year, he was in the tier with Kelsey and Kittle. And despite putting up similar numbers to Kittle, he's down around 50 to 60 in your rankings. Why isn't Ertz being considered in the top tier this year?

I think we're really... I'm sorry, go ahead, Dan. I think I can speak for you here we're worried about the target share not being there for him they added Rager Deshaun Jackson's healthy JJ Arcega-Whiteside is getting some complimentary reviews Philadelphia receiver there has gotten rave reviews it's amazing Greg Ward Arcega-Whiteside Deshaun Jackson right here Watkins I've Quez Watkins had some nice things to say. They love everybody. Well, everybody loves everybody.

They were starved for pass catchers last year. So anybody that's out there right now is good. And don't forget Goddard. Goddard was a monster for them. The running backs were doing a great job. It's just hard to envision him being as successful as he was. First off, two years ago, he was record setting. So that's why he was in the same conversation with Kittle and Kelsey. And then he took a step back. and he's also a little older you know so

it's uh he's still a great player it's you know it's it's not a it's not a slap in the face to have a guy ranked a little bit lower because he may be a little bit worse but you know you're still looking at there there's a clear four at tight end there is a definite clear four and Kittle and I'm sorry Ertz is the fourth so uh andrews is just you know having a monster monster training camp building off what he did last year and there are targets available for him now so um i would take andrews over urts but if you're in the urts camp still take him third all right this is from mason hurst from winters california hey mike chris tom and rob California. Hey, Mike, Chris, Tom, and Rob. I don't know. Oh, there you go.

If they were baseball players, I would have got it. 12-team half PPR league where you can keep up to two players in the round they were drafted. Keeping Mark Andrews in the 12th. Pick one more. Kyler Murray eighth round. Ronald Jones eighth round. Marquise Brown 11th round.

Man, the value for Marquise Brown is amazing, but do you want to go all in on the Ravens passing game when their quarterback just has a soft tissue injury? Yeah, that's what this email was actually about, pairing those two. Look, if Ronald Jones hits, and he is the guy for Tampa,

round eight is not necessarily the best value because he's basically going to be around six, seven pick based on ADP. You're going to see Sharps take him in round five. Kyler Murray, if he hits, is going to be a top three quarterback.

I would lean toward Murray. You can keep Marquise Brown for a ninth rounder next year and then a seventh rounder the year after that that's tempting that's tempting because if he does come through then you've got you've got the Ravens top targets for basically the prime of their careers and then you can just go hog wild on running backs for most of your first five or six picks I love Ronald Jones even I think he'll have a great year this year and then huge question mark

after this year. I'm going to say Brown. From Garrett here, I have the second pick of the draft. I'm anticipating Kyde Edwards-Ziller being taken. That leaves me... I'm sure there are keepers here. That leaves me with Henry Mixon. That leaves me with Henry Mixon, Jacobs,

and Eckler as potential first choices. I want to keep this player for the next three to four years. Who would you take? Henry, Mixon, Jacobs, and Eckler as potential first choices. I want to keep this player for the next three to four years. Who would you take? Henry, Mixon, Jacobs, or Eckler? What's the score? Don't know. I don't think it matters. I think it's Jacobs.

Yep. Just yes. I agree. Sure. Yeah. I mean, Mixon mix hard to overlook too yeah but he's two years older than two years further

in his career than Jacob so finally Dan in Atlanta wants to know what draft slot he should take in a two quarterback league top four why because you can get one of the two quarterbacks if you're so inclined.

If not, you get one of the running backs. And if you want to pick fourth, you may get Saquon. If you love those top four running backs and those top two quarterbacks, you can go to six. And then you're guaranteed either one of the top four running backs or the top two quarterbacks. You're leaving it to other people if that's the way you want to play it. But sure.

Right. But then you pick ahead of all those people in round two, and there should be a great quarterback there or a very good running back. Very good. 10-team league, by the way. 10-team league? Then I'm going to go one. But then you're not going to get an elite quarterback.

No, you might get one of the top six. Maybe. You might. You might. And if you don't, then that means you're just getting right. If all six of those guys go in the first 20 picks, you have,

you have the potential of Kelsey or Kittle. You have the potential of one of the top three wide receivers, top four wide receivers, and, you know, still another great running back. And you get McCaffrey. Oh,

boo hoo. Yeah, that works. All right, guys, we're out of here. Thank you so much, everybody for listening.

We'll come back on Monday with another episode. We've got a fun week planned. We've got league winners in each round. We've got wide receiver versus running back debates. Try to get a guest on later in the week as well. Maybe talk a little IDP. I'm Adam for Dave and Jamie. See you later.

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