Fantasy Football Today - RB Tiers! Montgomery Tier 2? Zeke Tier 3? (07/12 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

Vote for us for Best Sports Podcast and Best Male-Hosted Podcast! http://podcastawards.com/app/signup/ We've got a lot of good debates on today's show as we bring on Donkey Teeth from Razzball.com. We go through Heath's RB tiers which look quite different from average draft position. Donkey Teeth gives his initial thoughts on Heath's tiers (2:40) and then Adam tries rearranging Heath's first three tiers (5:45)! We've also got some Scott Fish Bowl updates (8:55) and news and notes ... Tier 1 is easy, but Tier 2 is where it gets interesting (13:10). Within this discussion we debate Aaron Jones, Najee Harris and especially David Montgomery. Then we move on to Tier 3 (26:40) which features Javonte Williams, Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliott and more. Does Zeke belong in this tier? Should Williams actually be higher (29:40)? ... Tier 4 (32:00) gets into the RB2s who still have a lot of upside, but do we run out of non-injury upside by the time we get to Tier 5 (38:40)? Should A.J. Dillon and Kareem Hunt be in their own tier? Then we talk Tier 6 (45:05), Tier 7 (48:15) and Tier 8 (50:50) which features players like Devin Singletary, Tony Pollard and James Robinson plus pass catching RBs and handcuffs. Which players could leap into a new tier? ... Your emails at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Heath's running back tiers. Does David Montgomery belong in the same tier as Joe Mixon? Maybe only Heath would say yes to that. Does Josh Jacobs belong in the same tier as Javante Williams? We're going to get into all of this. Quite frankly, Heath just doesn't have enough tears. He only has eight. There needs to be at least 20 Heath, so

it's okay. We'll workshop it today. Also, happy Red Day! I'm wearing red, Heath is wearing red, and our special guest, Donkey Teeth, is wearing red. Heath didn't even coordinate that. How about that? This is kind of creepy, actually. This red thing. What's creepy about it? I is kind of creepy, actually, this red thing.

What's creepy about it? I don't know. It's just weird. It just looks like we tried. Well, I think one thing that we consistently try to do on this channel is appear as if we're not trying. Welcome, Donkey Teeth from Raz Ball. How are you? I'm great.

Thanks for having me on, guys. I was excited to talk some running backs. Yeah, and it's really great to have you on. And you are at DonkeyTeeth87, and your name is Donkey Teeth. And tell us about Raz Ball. Well, you know, I've been at Raz Ball. I keep saying Raz Ball because we are launching our Raz Ball contest, which is kind of a Scott Fishbowl knockoff that we created a few years back. And both of you will be participating in it. It's about 66% experts, analysts from the industry and 33% fans.

We do a fan lotto and then people can win their way in. But that's why I keep slipping up and saying Razz Bowl. But Razz Bowl is pretty well established in the fantasy baseball world. And we've been trying to grow the fantasy football side over the past few years. I've kind of been spearheading it. They saw old donkey teeth out there and they said, that's the guy to grow fantasy football for us. So yeah, we've got a lot of fun stuff going on. My running back rankings actually dropped last week. I've got the top 20 running backs out there right now working on wide receiver rankings. They'll be up probably today or tomorrow. And we've got a really cool ADP tool that takes a composite from a bunch of different sites that we got permission from.

And you can kind of sort through them. A lot of really cool stuff that we're working on over there from the tools side. So that's kind of my quick pitch. Thanks for letting me promote it there, Em. Of course. So you took a look at Heath's tiers. I don't know if you – I mean you have them. I don't know if you even took a look.

I imagine. Yeah, there's not enough. I agree. Yeah, right. At first glance, what are your thoughts on Heath's tiers? I mean I actually like the the way he has them structured there's i hate when i look at rankings and it's like wow this is just you know adp right here uh which a lot of people seem to do nowadays it's like i move a couple players

one up and one down but there's some some pretty uh nice hot takes in here which that's my style heath well like there's no um i think it was actually uh razzballer rudy gamble that um when they there was the big kerfuffle over fantasy pros um experts um analysis and and how whether it was worth more to be right about someone that you were different than everyone on than to be right about someone that everybody was right about, right? Yeah, he did some analysis on this, and he's driven himself crazy trying to kind of crack the fantasy pros competition while also straying from the consensus pretty far. You know, he uses a lot of data analytics to come up with his projections

and then his weekly rankings reflect that. But, yeah, I mean, I love the Fantasy Pros competition, don't get me wrong. It's awesome that we have it and everybody can use that as a reference, but it does, to a certain extent, you know, turn into a bunch of sheep following each other. It feels like to me, and there's only a handful of people because if you go too far against the consensus, the way that their algorithm is set up, it really penalizes you. So it incentivizes people being very similar. And I think that's there's something else in that it's more helpful with tiers than rankings.

And we talk about this a lot. Like, do you want to rank somebody at running back 10 if you know that nobody has to draft him before running back 20? And so how do you combine rankings with ADP in determining like where you should put somebody? Is it worthwhile to rank somebody 30th overall, like I might with Brandon Cooks,

when he goes 65th a lot of the time? Should you pull back on that ranking so people aren't drafting him three rounds beforehand? I think you just have to have a conversation about your rankings and how to use them relative to ADP. But for the most part, I try to just ignore ADP when I'm doing rankings and tiers. I think that's the right way to go because there's so much content. You can write a separate article

about these are my rankings versus ADP. We have a million podcasts throughout the year. You can get that message across. I think you should stick to your own rankings and not even worry about ADP. But yeah, Heath, you don't have enough tiers. Your first three tiers should actually be six tiers. I'm going to tell you what they should be, okay? Okay. Okay, so tier one stays the same. McCaffrey, Jonathan, Taylor, Eckler, and Henry.

And these are PPR specifically? These are PPR, yes. Okay, so that should be your first tier. McCaffrey, Taylor, Eckler, and Henry. Your second tier has seven players in it. Should be three separate tiers. The seven players are Mixon, Dalvin Cook, Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, David Montgomery, DeAndre Swift, and Leonard Fournette.

The first part of that tier should be Mixon, Dalvin Cook, and Najee Harris. The second part of that tier should just be Aaron Jones. He's in his own tier. Okay, so what if I like Aaron Jones more than Najee Harris? How should I work those two things that you're telling me out? You shouldn't like him more than Harris because I'm telling you what the tier should be. Oh, okay. I see. But he goes after the workhorses, Aaron Jones.

And then you've got the last part of that tier, which is the third part, which is the fourth tier overall, DeAndre Swift, Leonard Fournette, and David Montgomery. Wait, I thought you said that Aaron Jones went after the workhorses, but then you just put David Montgomery after Aaron Jones. Well, the good workhorses. The good workhorses. Sorry, yeah.

Mixon, Cook, and Nagy are one tier, followed by Aaron Jones in his own tier, then Swift, Fournette, and Montgomery. Tier three, I didn't want, like, tier three, I made so many changes. Uh, tier three is, for you, it's Javante, Barkley, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, and Ezekiel Elliott. I made that a Javante, Chubb, Barkley tier,

and then Jacobs and Zeke, but then I added Cam Akers and James Conner from your next tier to Jacobs and Zeke. All right? So you're welcome. Well, I do appreciate that, and it's super helpful. And now maybe we could just do what we did yesterday and go through each of the tiers and talk about them. Okay. I think that's a better idea.

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Tonight at 7 p.m. Eastern, a special edition of Fantasy Football Today, only on YouTube. Scott Fish is joining us. Tara Roberts is joining us. It's just going to be me and the two of them helping you out with your Scott Fish Bowl questions if you're in a Scott Fish Bowl draft or if you just want to talk general fantasy, fire away. Since Donkey Teeth got to promote something, can I promote my Scott Fishbowl draft, or if you just want to talk general fantasy, fire away.

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He's made seven picks. That's crazy, by the way. Donkey Teeth has made two. I have made three. Go ahead, Heath. What are your seven great picks? Well, first off, the Fort Lauderdale teeth has made two. I've made three. Go ahead, Heath. What are your seven great picks? Well, first off, the Fort Lauderdale division has been fantastic. We have a good Twitter DM chat going that keeps the draft moving. We've already raised over $300 for local charities

in South Florida. It's a really good group of people and we're in round seven. So my division is better than your division. My Scott Fishbowl team, I have two quarterbacks, Tom Brady and Kirk Cousins. I have one running back so far. It's Christian McCaffrey. And my wide receivers are Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, and Brandon Cooks. So donkey teeth in a format where wide receivers have the least value, they're like the least important position, apparently, in the Scott Fish Bowl. Everybody seems to know that and draft that way. Heath has four in his first seven picks.

What do you think about that? And, by the way, no tight ends in a tight end premium. To be clear, I did not take a wide receiver until pick 48. It doesn't matter. You have four. You have none. You have no tight heads at a tight end premium donkey teeth what do you think about he's incredible what he thinks is

an incredible team i mean sometimes you gotta zig when everybody else is zagging that that presents the the best opportunities you know what i always say adam is it really doesn't matter what strategy you take as long as you pick the right players i I'm not sure if Heath did that, but yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking wide receivers because it's so deep. I mean, you're going to need them and you're going to need players to fill in for all those flex spots that we have too. My basic strategy here is that nobody is going to remember next year if I finished four and seven or seven and four or anything in between the only thing worth playing for this is be spectacular in one direction or the other so I have stacked up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Brady Evans and Godwin

I've also got McCaffrey and DJ Moore their week 17 opponent so if I do make it to the finals and there's fireworks in that week 17 matchup my team is just going to absolutely explode and that's why I that week 17 matchup, my team is just going to absolutely explode. Um, and that's why I took McCaffrey in the, at where I did because it was picked 12, so it's not like I took him very early. I don't care about injury risk in this format. It doesn't matter. Why didn't you take any tight ends?

Um, well, the only option I had was Mark Andrews in the first round. Okay. Kyle's Kyle pits went before I picked in round three. Kittle and Waller were both gone before I picked in round four. Dalton Schultz was just gone before I picked in round six. Okay. Donkey Teeth, what's your two-person squad so far in the Scottfish Bowl? Yeah, it's really filling out well.

I had the first pick, and so i i went with josh allen with that first pick it's super flex if people didn't know i think i think you mentioned that adam and then on the way back i did grab uh naja harris so um yeah i mean i'm really high on naja i guess we'll get to that when we get through uh heath's tears but i have him i was very happy to see him still there at pick 24 for me. Okay, great. So I had the ninth pick. I took Kelsey, then I took Jalen Hurts,

then I took Trey Lance with my first three picks. Okay, let's do some news and notes. That would have been dangerous in a different league where completion percentage could really sink your quarterbacks, but thankfully this is not a league like that So completion percentage can sink your quarterbacks. He's being sarcastic That is the downside of Jalen Hurts and Trey Lance the upside is they get a half a point for every rushing first down Yeah, and round two was awesome. Yeah Lance in round three was maybe a reach but I think I was probably gonna end up with

Something like Carson Wentz if I didn't take in the next round, if I didn't take Lance in round three. Okay, there is a Deshaun Watson report out there. It is not a concrete one. We are not going to report on it. I saw someone talk about it in the chat. So we're going to wait for something more official. It could be nothing.

Dalton Schultz does not appear to be close to a deal. He's on the franchise tag. They have until Friday to give Dalton Schultz a new appear to be close to a deal. He's on the franchise tag. They have until Friday to give Dalton Schultz a new contract, or he's going to play the season on a one-year franchise tag deal. And according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, the Seahawks have discussed the possibility of trading for Jimmy Garoppolo. Great. Those are your news and notes.

Let's get into Heath's running back tiers. Heath, how would you define tier one of McCaffrey? These are PPR, by the way. PPR running back tiers. McCaffrey, Taylor, Eckler, Henry. I would feel no surprise at all if they finished the year as RB1. Okay, great. Let's go to number two.

I mean, why? Right. Tier two is a big one. There are seven running backs. Mixon, Cook, Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, montgomery deandre swift and leonard fornette how would you define tier two it's a it's a jumbled mess really like any of these guys could be top five running backs i think all of these guys have been top five running backs, right?

Like Najee was just over a full season and not per game last year. Not Swift. No, Swift only was for like a half a season. You're right. Swift was in full PBR. These guys, I would feel no surprise if they finished as top five running backs. Okay. All right, Donkey Teeth, you get in there now. We got Mixon, Cook, Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, David Montgomery,

DeAndre Swift, Leonard Fournette in Tier 2. What do you think? I like the Mixon take. I mean, he's a little bit higher on Mixon than most here, but I'm with him. I guess the couple, I think Montgomery's too high. I'm a Bears fan, if you can't see my Walter Payton jersey back here. I think that I have a hard time getting too invested in the Bears.

I think he's got a really high floor. But for me in this area, I'm looking for a little bit more upside. Not that he doesn't have the upside. It's just, man, the Bears, their offense is really going to have to reach that 95th percentile outcome for Montgomery to return this kind of value, in my opinion. I'm a little bit lower on Aaron Jones. I like the swift take here. I think that's a good spot for net. I think he's getting a little bit disrespected by people. He's not a super exciting pick, but he's still one of the best offenses in the league, behind one of the best offensive lines in the league with Tom Brady at quarterback. So pretty solid tiers here. I'd have Najee Harris offenses in the league behind one of the best offensive lines in league with Tom Brady at quarterback. So, um, pretty solid tiers here.

I'd have Najee Harris up in, uh, the first one, really small changes that I would make. Yeah. And like the Montgomery one is going to be the one that I'm actually writing an article on this. It'll come out later this afternoon, um, about the running back tiers. And the two that I chose to defend were Montgomery in tier two and Zeke in tier three, because I think those are the two most controversial right now.

I just really think it's underestimated the value of having a 20-touch running back. And he's been a 20-touch running back each of the last two years. And I don't think he's going to lose that distinction. And as far as the offense goes, it does profile as a bottom third offense but i'm as excited about this offense as i've been since ava montgomery joined the bears and he was a top five running back just a year ago he was a top five running back but two years ago

right he finished top five and i i know look some some people don't care some people do it was largely weighted on this incredible six-game stretch he had at the end of the year against mostly the worst, you know, some of the worst run defenses in football. Very similar to what Rashad Penny did, by the way, but not quite as impressive. So, Donkey Teeth, how much do you care about that? I mean, when you take a look at David Montgomery,

I think if you take those six games out of his career, he's averaging 3.7 yards per carry in his career. I think it's only 3.9 for his full career anyway but i don't know i i think some people don't know what to make of david montgomery they don't know if he's really that good and if you remove those those six games then he's been of you know in my opinion a very underwhelming player what you know as a bears fan what's your little scouting report on david montgomery well you know running back is it's a tricky position we all know like they're so dependent on the system the offense all these moving pieces around them there's very few of them that are going to produce regardless of you know the system there's only a couple of uh maybe only one adrian peterson out there but you know, there's a couple guys that are able to get it done in less than ideal situations.

Montgomery, I don't think he's a special player. He's not going to fall into that group. You know, he's good. He's made it this far. He's an NFL running back. But he's behind a really bad offensive line and until the bears you know prove to me that they can develop a quarterback and you know be a top 10 offense in the nfl i just have a hard time i think the floor is there i think the carriers are going to be there and there's definitely value in that especially in

like a deeper league but if we're talking about a 10 team league i'm looking for a guy that i think has a better shot at finishing in the top five, which I just, I have a hard time seeing Montgomery doing that. I hope that I'm wrong. I definitely could be wrong. I mean, he's shown flashes of it. It's just, I'm going to trust, you know, the other, I don't know how many games he has in his career that weren't those five or six sample. What about Aaron Jones?

You said you're a little lower on Aaron Jones. I think the CBS crew is very high on Aaron Jones jones i was talking to jamie off the air today and i mean i i don't know if i should share this but i think he said he's gonna move i'll share it right why not uh he's going to move aaron jones ahead of joe mixett in ppr so we like aaron jones a lot. How do you feel about him? I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if he finished right here where Heath has got him. But A.J. Dillon is really the X factor here. I think A.J. Dillon is only going to be a bigger part of this offense,

and he's going to get those goal line carries. My rankings that I put out are half PPR. I kind of split the difference. I think that's my favorite format. So I think Aaron Jones gets a little bit of a boost in full PPR here, but I just think his upside is a little bit capped with A.J. Dillon there. And Adam loves you for saying half PPR is your favorite format. He's going to start using your rankings exclusively from this point on.

I will say that there's a similarity there with Jones and with Montgomery is that I think both of these offenses are going to be extremely running back centric. I think people are too low on Khalil Herbert and maybe A.J. Dillon as well, but I expect the Montgomery and Jones to do enough in the passing game to where the 40% that Herbert or Dylan are on the field is not going to impact them as negatively as it might. Now, the Bears' offense is a bit of a crapshoot. We're talking about Luke Getze.

He's called plays in college, and the quarterback was the leading rusher on that team. But I do think they're going to try to have a pretty running back-centric offense where they're going to have to find some other wide receivers. And just a last thought on Montgomery, Matt Eberflus. Am I pronouncing that right, by the way? I've heard it different ways.

Matt Eberflus, their new head coach, said, we're going to stress those running backs and stretch their role, meaning can he run the whole gamut of the passing tree, which, you know, it looks like Montgomery can. Can he beat guys one-on-one consistently? Is it a safety or a linebacker that's covering him? It's a positive. If he can beat all those guys, DBs and linebackers,

and we feel he has the skill set to do that. All right. I think you probably want to talk about Najee Harris, Donkey Teeth, who you say would be in Tier 1 for you. Heath is actually a little low on Najee Harris. He has him as a 12, 13 overall kind of pick. What about you? Yeah,

I'm swinging for the fences on Najee Harris. I mean, we all know he had a great rookie season in less than ideal circumstances. There's definitely some question marks, you know, big Ben is gone. The offensive line isn't great, but he put up 1700 yards from scrimmage in his rookie season we all

know that there's no such thing as a safe running back they all all get hurt but i would not be surprised at all if naja harris finishes the season as the the number one running back again half half ppr rankings that that i've got him ranked number three in uh but i think that he probably falls in that same right there three four and in and in full PPR. I think I might move Eckler ahead of him just cause he's such a monster in the receiving department. Uh, but yeah, Najee Harris is my guy this season. Like I said, I drafted him in Scott Fishbowl. Uh, I'm all in on Najee. I'm curious to hear, uh, I mean, I guess I probably know why he isn't, uh, fully in on Najee. I'm curious to hear, I mean, I guess I probably know why he isn't fully in on Najee for the reasons that I said, offensive line, question marks with that offense and quarterback, right?

I think that somebody should create a David Montgomery, Najee Harris, Spider-Man meme. No. They're both going to have subpar efficiency. They're both going to be on bad offenses with bad offensive lines. And my big problem with him is that I am concerned that the target volume is going to shrink significantly. Because I don't think they're very likely to throw 664 passes going from Ben in the huddle to Trubisky or Pickett. And I think both Trubisky and Pickett are more likely to get the ball downfield to their wide receivers or take off when they get under pressure as opposed to dumping the ball off to the running back. So I think both the total target shares and the share that go to running backs could drop. And the outcome of that is I only have Harris projected for five more catches than Montgomery this year.

So I think the big difference to me is the Bears versus the Steelers. Mike Tomlin and the Steelers have a track record of producing first-round running backs. And, again, we saw Najee Harris behind a terrible offensive line last year, put up really nice numbers. So I get the concerns for sure. They're valid. But I'd rather take that gamble.

Like I said, I'm shooting for the moon, and I think Najee Harris is that kind of guy. Even though the talent gap might not be that big between Montgomery and Najah, I think Najah's a little bit more talented, but it's probably not a big difference. I don't think we should condemn him to being inefficient either. It's been basically three years for Montgomery, and you look at Christian McCaffrey in his rookie year, Le'Veon Bell in his rookie year. There are actually a lot more examples of guys who just had terrible terrible yards per carry and they were fantastic running backs after that.

But, and that's true. Like we shouldn't, and I don't really think that the inefficiency has that much to do with him. I just don't think the situation has changed to make him more efficient and yards per carry is not the only other only way to measure efficiency as a pass catcher, I think Montgomery's been significantly more efficient. Every pass catcher on the Steelers was horribly inefficient, right? I mean, that was their offense. I don't know that Mitchell Trubisky or rookie Kenny Pickett's going to assist in that. All right. Well, you know what?

I did some crazy stat work. I'm going to leave it. No, please do. Please do. Well, you know what? I did some crazy stat work. I'm going to leave it. No, please do. Please do. I just want to give you a thought on the floor for Najee Harris because he should be among the NFL leaders in carries. He had 307 last year. So let's just say he had 300 in 17 games if he gets that,

or that would be 282 carries in 16 games. I looked at all the running backs who reached that mark, either 282 carries in 16 games. I looked at all the running backs who reached that mark, either 282 carries in 16 games or 300 carries last year. Over the last five seasons, there were 12 running backs who reached that mark. They all finished, at the very worst, they were top 10 per game in PPR. Nine of the 12 finished top six per game.

Najee Harris was one of the exceptions. He finished eighth per game last year in PPR. And the three players who did not finish top six per game. Najee Harris was one of the exceptions. He finished eighth per game last year in PPR. And the three players who did not finish top six were on subpar offenses. They were LaShawn McCoy in 2018, Nick Chubb in 2019, Najee Harris last year, and they were all on offenses that ranked 21st or 22nd in scoring. However, there were some examples of guys in that range, McCaffrey, Zeke, Derrick Henry, 20th, 23rd in scoring, who did finish top six. So I guess my point is there is so much safety with him if he stays healthy because he should get the 300 carries.

And, I mean, I can't imagine he'd be any worse than what he was last year, which was eighth per game in PPR. Let's take a quick break here. We'll talk about Tier 3, Javante Williams, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, Ezekiel Elliott, when we come back on Fantasy Football today. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend to powers your scale with no preset spending limit. More cash on hand to grow your business with up to 55 interest-free days. And the ability to reach further with access to over 1,400 airport lounges worldwide. Redefine possible with Business Platinum.

That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. And we are back looking at Heath's running back tiers. We're up to tier three. Quick reminder, tier one was McCaffrey, Taylor, Eckler, and Henry. Tier two was Mixon, Cook, Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, Montgomery, Swift, and Fournette. These are PPR tiers.

And tier three is five running backs. I think this is a really interesting tier. Javante Williams, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb. But then Jacobs and Elliott, who you have ahead of Kamara, which is all about suspension. But you have Jacobs and Elliott in this tier. But you have Cam Akers, J.K. Dobbins, James Conner, Brees Hall, Antonio Gibson in the next tier.

And I wonder why Jacobs and Elliott snuck into this third tier. Yeah, I think I kind of talked about it on FFT and five. For the most part, the tier four tier is more the, I don't know how many games these guys are going to play, at least at the top of it, the bottom of it. I don't really believe that Hall, like I don't know how many games Hall is going to get to be a workhorse would be a better way to phrase it. But I think it's more just that I'm a little bit higher on Josh Jacobs and Ezekiel Elliott.

For Zeke in particular, listen, there's floor concerns with the way he looked after the injury last year and the way Tony Pollard outperformed him down the stretch but every single thing that you hear out of Dallas suggests that they think he's 100% again and they are going to use him like Ezekiel Elliott again and if that's true then he's a tier two running back at the absolute worst right right he was at the beginning of the year if it's true he might be a tier one running back all right so it's tough to balance that with the floor of maybe that injury last year was the one that took away that whatever percentage of of ability that he's just not that good anymore but i don't want to overlook the upside of what zeke could be and has been. All right, so let's get Donkey Teeth's take here on tier three. Javante Williams, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, Ezekiel Elliott. Well, I guess to follow up on Zeke, since we're already there, I wholeheartedly agree. I've

actually been pretty down on Zeke the past couple seasons. So it's weird for me to now feel like everything is kind of flip-flopped and everybody hates Zeke. It's so strange to see him ranked so low, even though I'm not crazy about him. It's like you don't have to be crazy about him to be drafting him in the area that he's in. There's definitely some risk there just because of how many carries that he's got piled up in his career. But at the place that he's going, I mean, he can easily finish as an rb1 we we know that so the risk reward is

great this season on zeke i've got him at 15 personally i think the big one that i uh disagree with in this tier is giovante williams i'm huge on giovante williams as well this season you know i i was probably i've got him at number seven I was going to have him even higher until the Melvin Gordon resigning. But, you know, even as split offense, we saw Javante Williams look better than Melvin Gordon last year. Of course, I think Melvin Gordon is going to be a part of that, the game plan, and it's going to be split. But, you know, there's so many committees now.

It's like how many running backs are really going to be handling 25 carries a game even 20 carries a game so I think Javante Williams gets the job done as as the lead back with Melvin still being a factor there and vulturing some touchdowns and taking some carries but with Russell Wilson now at the helm in year two I think Javante Williams he's going to be a consensus tier one running back next year is my opinion. Yeah, I don't feel comfortable with ranking Javante Williams anywhere or tiering him anywhere, honestly, just because I don't know where the split's going to happen with Williams and Gordon. Obviously, if I have him in tier three, I think the split's going to be much different than it was last year because if the split was what it was last year,

I'd have him in Tier 5. He was not, over the course of the season, and really especially if you just count the games that he played with Melvin Gordon, he was not really a starting running back for fantasy purposes. He was more of a flex. And I do expect a big change, but does that big change include

him scoring a higher percentage of the touchdowns than Melvin Gordon? I would, I hope so. I don't, I don't know. Um, so he's, he's right there at the top of tier three. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually a tier two back, but I wouldn't be that surprised either if he's a tier four back if it's a a 55 45 split between Williams and Melvin Gordon who I think has kind of turned into a little bit of a punching bag like Melvin Gordon was still really pretty good last year and on fewer touches scored more fantasy points and you can get them about a hundredth overall Melvin Gordon, too. All right. So I think we'll move on to Tier 4, which will have some overlap. For a lot of people, the end of Tier 3, beginning of Tier 4, you just pick the guys you like.

People are going to like Cam Akers over Josh Jacobs, maybe, or James Conner ahead of Zeke and Jacobs, something like that. But Tier 3 was Javante, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, and E that. But tier three was Javante, Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, and Ezekiel Elliott. And tier four is Alvin Kamara, Cam Akers. See, Kamara deserves his own tier, Heath. Oh, yes. And then we should just put an asterisk by it. If Alvin Kamara is not suspended at all, he's a tier two running back. If he's suspended for half the season, then he's a tier five or six running back. Uh, Camara cam acres, JK Dobbins, James Connor,

Brees hall, and Antonio Gibson. I'm going to give donkey teeth. The first word here, Camara cam acres, JK Dobbins, James Connor, Brees hall, Antonio Gibson. What do you think about this tier? Not even, you know, who you, you can talk about who you have higher or lower, but where are we? Are we looking at, this could easily be my first running back. I'd be happy with them if I took, you know, wide receivers with my first, you know, wide receiver tight end with my first three picks. And this is my RB1 or I want, this is my RB2, or I'm skipping over this group. Your general thoughts on this group. Cause this is, we're into round four, really, in ADP, and maybe into the beginning of round five in a 12-team league.

Yeah, I don't want this as my first running back. That I'm very confident in. We're looking at RB2s here. I guess I shouldn't say that, because I would be comfortable. There's one guy in this tier that I really love. It's Antonio Gibson. There's definitely some risk, though. I wouldn't feel great about having him as my RB1. Really excited to have him as my RB2. But this is mostly

an avoid tier for me. I like Brees Hall as well. James Conner, he had a great season, but it's really hard for me to get fully on board with. I mean, the touchdowns are going to come back down. But, yeah, there's a lot of risk. This is a risky tier. I think that that's – Keith kind of framed it up that way, and I agree. Even Alvin Kamara, even if he weren't to get suspended, which I think he will, I still don't know if I can get on board with him in Tier 2 after what we saw from him without Drew Brees last year. He came back down to earth. He's now 27 years old. That's not really young for a running back. The carries and touches have piled

up in his career. So yeah, there's just a ton of risk in this tier. I guess to circle back to my Antonio Gibson love, he's the guy that, again, I mean, a common theme with my rankings and what I'm talking here today is I'm after that upside. I'm after that guy that I think can be a league winner. And I think Antonio Gibson has that upside, even if he is splitting carries and touches with McKissick and the rookie Brian Robinson. I mean, we've seen that might be better for Antonio Gibson for his health down the stretch. He's broken down. He's not exactly that kind of guy that you want to get 20 to 25 carries a game, but he's a game breaker.

15 carries a game and five, six, seven receptions, and he can put up top 10 running back numbers all day long. So I've got him at number 11. I'll kick it back over to Heath here. Yeah, I think you could divide this into two groups. I'm just going to go with Adams, break my tears into more tears, giving me tears. Kamara, Akers, Dobbins, and Hall, I would put,

I would kind of describe as, I'm hoping they could be RB1s in the second half. Connor and Gibson are more of, I know they could be RB ones in the second half. Um, Connor and Gibson are more of, I know they could be RB ones. I'm not sure their teams are going to use them in the way that would bring that about. Uh, I, with Gibson specifically, I just hated Washington's off season. I hated the fact that whatever that thing was with JD McKissick,

where the bills thought he was going to be a bill. And then Washington went in and made a last ditch effort to bring McKissick back. Why do that when you have a running back who's better as a receiver on your team? And then to use with the few draft picks they had to use a draft pick on another running back and then start telling us how that's going to be their D'Angelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart. Well, D'Angelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart were an awesome combination. That would be great. I don't think that would be a very good combination if you also have another running back who's going to catch 50 back passes on the team. So I, I just, I think Gibson could be a top 12 running back. I definitely, Connor, I've talked all off season about how good

I think he is in the passing game, but I don't know why when they already had, you know, Benjamin and they'd already drafted a day three back, they went and signed third down specialist, Daryl Williams. Um, it makes me concerned that they don't want to use Connor that way. And Connor specifically has enough injury history that that might make some sense, but I don't think Connor in last year's role is going to be a top 12 running back. I just wonder if we're overrating the competition for James Connor. Because I'm all about this, Ethan.

One of my bold predictions was that he would be a bust. I don't remember what it was. But then I got to thinking of it more. Because I saw some, I don't remember where it was, some reports, some beat writers saying that Eno Benjamin was the favorite to be the third down back, not Darrell Williams. My concern, I want to be very clear. I don't think Eno Benjamin or Keonta Ingram or Darrell Williams

are any competition at all for James Conner. My concern is that the team wants to use them on the downs where Con Connor really, like not in touchdowns, but I don't think he's going to score that many touchdowns again. Yeah. But they want to use them on those pass catching downs and keep his catch total closer to 30 than 50. Yeah, I completely agree.

But then there's also this. He was the third best pass blocker among running backs in the NFL last year, according to PFF. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's like I agree with everything, but I'm also wondering if we're being a little too hard, a little too harsh. And then, all right, let's Cam Akers, by the way, is someone that could definitely jump up, right?

I mean, based on what we see this preseason and training camp, Cam Akers. Yeah. For me, it's probably more of a situation where I think Cam Akers could surprise me. I've pretty much decided that I think Cam Akers is okay. I just don't – I didn't believe Cam – like, J.K. Dobbins is someone that if we start training camp and, oh, yeah, J.K. Dobbins is not on the pup list,

then he would make a massive leap. But I thought J.K. Dobbins is not on the pup list, then he would make a massive leap. But I thought J.K. Dobbins was a lot better running back coming into the NFL than Cam Akers. And Akers hasn't done anything to disprove that for me yet. All right, let's go to Tier 5. Sign me up for the RB Dead Zone. Sign me up for Tier 5. I like Heath's tier here. Elijah Mitchell, Travis ETN,

Kareem Hunt, Clyde Edwards-Alaire, Chase Edmonds, Miles Sanders, and AJ Dillon. Personally, I don't think I would have Clyde or Edmonds here, but I think not every pick you make has to be a home run. There are times when just getting a guy who is start-worthy and dependable helps. And I think you could hit home runs. I mean, Elijah Mitchell, I think he had five games with 20-plus carries last year. That's unheard of for a 49ers running back. ETN, obviously, first-round pick and could be a PPR stud. Kareem Hunt.

Kareem Hunt was better than Nick Chubb in the five games they played together last year in full PPR. And I think he was like the eighth best running back per game in the first five games of the season before Chubb got hurt and then Hunt got hurt. Yeah, and then you got A.J. Dillon, you got Miles Sanders, you got Clyde, you got Chase Edmonds.

Heath, sign me up. I'm in the dead zone here. I'm all about tier five. Yeah, there's no floor at all with virtually any of these running backs. And there is super exciting ceiling, depending on role, for almost all of these running backs.

So I could understand why you wanted to draw. And the great thing is, some of these guys fall so far, they're almost out of the dead zone. We're almost to the other side. Why do you say there's no floor? Why do you say there's no floor? Why do you say there's no floor? Because, well, don't you want to, like, on an individual case?

Yeah, because unless you're, if you take injuries. Kareem Hunt might be in the smaller half of a committee on a team quarterbacked for 17 games by Jacoby Brissett. He will be by the smaller half. Travis Etienne could just be a gadget back for James Robinson okay Elijah Mitchell is a sixth round running back on a Kyle Shanahan team that has two other third round running backs that Shanahan has chosen the past two years. Clyde Edwards-Alaire, obvious, I think. Chase Edmonds, obvious, I think.

Miles Sanders can't even score a touchdown. A.J. Dillon has a nice floor. Honestly, I think Dillon and Hunt are perfect high-end flexes if nobody gets hurt, and number one running backs if the other guy gets hurt. Huge upside with some flex floor. All right, Donkey Teeth, what do you think about Tier 5 here? Well, I mean, I think back in Tier 4, we kind of hit that spot where, man, you can rank

these players. Somewhere in Tier 4, we hit that spot where you can rank these guys any way you want. And it especially becomes true from tier five on here i mean these guys as he said no floor and anybody beyond them could could end up being more valuable so the the player that uh i'll go to bat for in tier five is miles sanders i think that's he's the eagles i don't know if either of you guys owned Miles Sanders or if you remember how frustrating that offense was at the start of last year. But they just like forgot that they had Miles Sanders. They didn't run the ball at all. It was the most bizarre thing.

Like everybody knew that they should be running the ball and they just didn't run it at all. And then he got hurt. So I'm just throwing last year out. Again, back to my theme of upside, Miles Sanders, you know, anytime he touches the ball. Coincidentally, he had zero touchdowns last year as he poked at there. But anytime he touches the ball, he can take it to the house.

He's a game breaker. If he can stay healthy, you know, absolutely, the floor is zero. But if he can stay healthy, there is RB1 upside. So he's the guy that I want to draft in this tier at his current ADP. And let's see who else, you know, I like AJ Dillard, but yeah, I think the rest of this tier, other than ETN has got that upside to be the lead back. It's just, we don't know how that's going to be handled with James Robinson. And Clyde Edwards-Hilaire has that upside. The rest of the tier

feels like a pretty solid committee backs. You think so with Mitchell in San Francisco? He's either a workhorse back or he's on the waiver wire. We don't know. He belongs in his own tier, Adam. Look, the thing about San Francisco is I really think that the running back injuries have been so weird. But if you look at the last three seasons, in the way I have seen it, it may not be so obvious in the numbers, but if you look at the box scores and when injuries actually happened,

I really think that Raheem Mostert was on his way, that they were treating him like a true lead running back, not involved in the passing game. I'm not counting that but in terms of carries like raheem mostard it was his backfield i think two straight years and he couldn't stay healthy and take advantage of it and last year it was all elijah mitchell when elijah mitchell was healthy i mean the amount of carries this guy got was was off the charts um so i think that they're not as much of a committee as you would, as they're made out to be. The one exception would be late in the 2019 season, I believe it was a very much committee between Jeff Wilson and Raheem Mostert, but that was after Mostert missed time with an injury. Before the

injury, it was his backfield. So that's just my take on it. I think that they are willing, they're more willing to give someone a full workload in the running game than maybe they get credit for. No, I think I agree with that. My distinction might be that they're not very loyal. I think they are loyal as long as there's not an injury. That's what I'm saying. I think they were loyal as long as there's not an injury you know that's what I'm saying I think they were loyal the most or they realized he was the best guy and he just couldn't stay healthy yeah I think I think the I agree with both of you to to be honest but I think the injury thing here

is kind of weird the loyalty and injury thing because it's like even if somebody gets a little bit banged up they can be like out in a second. Uh, and I think that that's the, the loyalty thing Heath is, is talking about. It doesn't take like a four or five, six week injury. It takes like, Hey, I, you know, I'm a little bit sore today. All right, let's go into the last three tiers, which is, you know, well, Tony Pollard, I think is at the top of tier six. And I just want to, we could start with that. Why is Tony Pollard in tier six and not in the AJ Dillon Kareem Hunt's tier? I moved him into the tier five for FFT and five yesterday. And you said, no, you didn't agree that he belonged in that tier. So I dropped him back into tier six. I agree with you. I'm making, I'm asking you.

It's literally just because you said so. Um, it's touchdowns for me. I think when you look at Hunt and Dillon, you could see them each getting some rushing touchdowns. Whereas if Zeke and Pollard are both healthy, that is Zeke's role. I really kind of think that this tier six group probably needs an injury and maybe some good luck and or some good luck to finish as a top 25 running back. Okay. So let's read the tier. Pollard, Pierce, Damian Pierce, Naeem Hines, Michael Carter, Cordero Patterson, James Cook, Damian Harris, Tyler Algier, Devin Singletary, Melvin Gordon, Ken Walker, Rashad Penny, and Ronald Jones. Donkey Teeth, any disagreements?

Anybody in here that you think belongs in a different tier, either higher or lower? No strong disagreements. I think the guy that I'd highlight is Cordell Patterson. Nobody seems to believe what he did last year, which, I mean, it is hard to believe. But just the fact that he did it and he's being drafted. I keep drafting him in these startup dynasties that Heath keeps inviting to me that you guys are doing over there. Because he's always there at like pick 130.

And it's like, yeah, he's not a great dynasty asset, but he just finished top 10. You know, I don't think he's going to do it again, but he just proved that he can. And what other competition is there? I mean, it's a weird thing where it's like, I don't like him, but I'll keep drafting him where he's going. I think Kenneth Walker is interesting.

You know, Pete Carroll continues to produce running backs that rack up fantasy points. So, oh, and Damian Harris. Damian Harris is the other one that I like here. And it's hard to get fully on board with a Belichick running back, but they really went pretty far in on Damian Harris last year. I like Ramondre Stevenson as well, but I think that there's a pretty good argument for Damian Harris being up in Tier 5. In half PPR, I definitely would have him up there. In full PPR, I'm just worried that this timeshare we saw at the end of last year will be more what we

see the entire year only he won't score 15 touchdowns on 200 carries devin singletary is interesting too heath would you move him up into another tier and a half ppr league because i think obviously you're worried about they have james cook who you also have in this tier so what about singletary yeah there are some some duos here you got walker and penny you've got Singletary? Yeah, there are some duos here. You've got Walker and Penny. You've got Singletary and Cook. You've got Patterson and Algier. I think those are the teammates that all find themselves in this tier. I would move Singletary up a tier in half PPR. He's been one of the worst pass-catching running backs in the NFL,

so I just don't like the fact that they went so hard after McKissick and now I've got Cook. I don't think he might be a poor man's Damian Harris is my fear. Tier 7 is Khalil Herbert, James Robinson, Deontay Foreman, Ramondre Stevenson, Rashad White, Kenneth Gainwell, and Alexander Madison. I can't call this a strictly handcuffed tier, Heath. Mostly handcuffed.

How do James Robinson and Ramondre Stevenson call this a strictly handcuffed here he mostly handcuffed okay so how do uh james robinson and i guess remandre stevenson fit in with guys who look like more true handcuffs uh herbert deontay foreman rashad white in tampa bay kenneth gainwell and alexander madison yeah i mean i think gainwell and stevenson are going to be um low-end flexes if there's no injury, but if there's an injury, could be really good. And as for James Robinson, he's another guy who just needs his own tier because I have no idea what to do with him. But they continue to talk semi-optimistically about the idea

that he might come off the pup before the season starts. Donkey Teeth, any thoughts? Again, Khalil Herbert, James Robinson, Deontay Foreman, Ramondre Stevenson, Rashad White, Kenneth Gainwell, Alexander Madison. I think you pretty well highlighted the two guys that stick out, James Robinson and Stevenson. I feel like they kind of separate from this tier. I also agree with what Heath said about Khalil Herbert

when we were talking about David Montgomery. I think that outside of being a handcuff, there could be some value in Khalil Herbert this year. Of course, I'm not going to be drafting him aggressively, but he's more of a, in most leagues, shallower leagues, kind of just a guy I'm keeping an eye on throughout the season because that role could be bigger than people are expecting. Stevenson is interesting when you compare him to somebody like Alexander Madison, who

we've seen can be a top five-ish running back when Dalvin Cook is out, but has basically no role when Dalvin Cook is in. New coaching staff, don't know if that'll change. Stevenson, in the last five games that Stevenson and Harris played together, after Harris got hurt, Stevenson had two more carries than Damian Harris. They had, I think, the same amount of touches, and they both had about 50 carries. Stevenson did a lot better with those carries, but they were low catch, about 10 carry per game guys, which is really terrible.

But Stevenson, I guess, has a role, which you could say, well, that puts him ahead of Madison. But at the same time, he's so much less upside because even if Harris gets hurt, if both guys have a running back injury in their backfield, wouldn't you say Madison has more upside than Stevenson? I would. Yeah.

So it's an interesting decision you'll have to make from your fantasy team based on what you need at that point and how deep you are at running back. We don't need to say the names in Tier 8. It's sad. No, it's not sad. There's some interesting players. There's J.D. McKissick.

I don't know why J.D. McKissick is in Tier 8 and James Cook is in Tier 6. Because I don't want J.D. McKissick to ever come close to his 2020 role again. I would like to pretend like he doesn't exist for most time. No, I think there's a better chance that JD James Cook could turn into an actual running back than JD McKissick. Okay. And James Cook's not 30.

McKissick, Jamal Williams, plays on the bills, Daryl Henderson. Okay. Kenyon Drake, Gus Edwards, Daryl Henderson. Okay. Kenyon Drake, Gus Edwards, Daryl Williams,

Brian Robinson, Raheem Mostert, Marlon Mack, Isaiah Spiller, James White, Mark Ingram. I guess we don't really need to talk about that. So don't know.

Like Mark Ingram might be way too low. Yeah. He might be a tier five running back. If we get this Camara suspension news, any final thoughts on that donkey teeth uh i mean the one player in tier eight that i'd highlight is brian robinson just because we know that that uh antonio gibson is no sure thing to stay healthy and mckissick is not going to be you know a workhorse so he's the upside guy the the unknown shiny rookie that uh in the late

rounds of a deep league I would take a shot on in this tier. I've really enjoyed this show. It's really taught me a lot about tiers. How many tiers you should have. This really great tier philosophy. What color shirt you should wear. I, by

the way, have a Bushwood Country Club shirt. Isn't that good? Is that the country club that you got shut down a couple years ago no that is not that is the caddy shack maybe you got a t-shirt out of the settlement country club no no i didn't do that i actually just got a caddy shack uh t-shirt it says tremendous slouch on it oh don't sell yourself short doggy with your tremendous yeah uh i'm gonna read a few emails here while we have a minute travis are you good slouch on it. Oh, don't sell yourself short, Donkey. You're a tremendous slouch. I'm going to read a few emails here while we have a minute. Travis,

are you good? You got to hop off or are you good? Donkey? I'm good. Who's Travis? Travis in a town north of Lansing. Oh, you thought I was talking to Travis? I'm sorry. I interrupted myself mid-thought there. Travis is the emailer. He says, Dear Steve,

Sergey, Brendan, and Nicholas. I bet those are hockey players. They are. They feel like Detroit Red Wings to me, which would maybe be a town north of Lansing. I don't know. 12-team PPR, super flex, tight end premium. This is a dynasty league with two flex,

three wide receivers. Again, it's PPR and it's super flex and it's tight end premium. How would you assess his team? He has 12 team league. Come on. You're not going to read off 18 names to us and have us assess

a team. I think you can do it fairly easily. Why don't you just put it on the screen? Share your screen with us. That would be less easy. That would be less easy. Alright, you know what? this is not the best uh email to read but what happened was you already teased him at least read his starting lineup all right all right he's probably sitting there like oh they're gonna read it herbert herbert golf and pickett uh aj dylan eli mitchell devin singletary rashad petty trace urban so far not very good uh but jamar chase tyree kill keenan allen devon AJ Dillon, Eli Mitchell, Devin Singletary, Rashad Petty, Trey Servin. So far, not very good.

But Jamar Chase, Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen, Devante Smith, DJ Chark, Pickens, Terrace Marshall, Tyler Boyd, Mikko Hartman, and George Kittle, Hayden Hurst, and Kate Otten at tight end. I do not like this team very much. I think you're a little ways away, the Kittle and Tyreek and probably one other person I didn't hear single Terry, like some of those guys I would be looking to move and hoping to compete next year.

Okay. Yeah. I think Keenan Allen was in there. Yeah. Okay. Full PPR. Yes. Yeah.

It helps a little. Yeah. I mean, the running back was obvious weakness. He's got a lot of, a lot of long-term assets there at wide receiver. Maybe looking towards 2023. Here's an email from Nick.

Dear Terry, Mark, Bubby, and Neil. Those are Steelers quarterbacks? Yeah, yeah, okay. Here is the team I just drafted in my 24 roster. No, just kidding. With Tyreek Hill gone, doesn't it seem likely that defenses will double team Travis Kelsey a lot? And therefore

we should pass on Travis Kelsey. I think Travis Kelsey has been doubled a lot already. I did, I mean, obviously I had this thought because it's gonna certainly change the way teams defend them. You know, they're not going to see the single high safety look or the two high safety look as much, I wouldn't think. And that's, you know, that's a tight end's best friend.

I think we had Rich Rebar lay that out for us a couple years ago about Travis Kelsey. He's benefited from that. But I tend to just think he's going to get peppered with targets, and that's better than this theory. Yeah, I could go either way. I mean, definitely something to be said for Tyreek opening up the field. Yeah, I just don't think I'm going to draft Travis Kelsey

where he's going anyway in the early second round. But you could definitely see him being peppered and putting up those typical Travis Kelsey monster he's going anyway in the early second round. But you could definitely see him being peppered and putting up those typical Travis Kelsey monster numbers still. I'm skeptical as to whether teams stop playing cover too. It's one of the best offensive lines in the NFL and Patrick Mahomes and a lot of speed. They do have deep threats. Take a chance with that, but maybe.

All right, this is from elliot he says he is picking seventh in a 12 team ppr league and he wants to take justin jefferson it is a two running back two receiver one flex league he's looking at aaron jones cd lamb or saquon barkley in round two who would would you take if you took Jefferson in round one and it's only a two-receiver league with one flex? Would you take Aaron Jones, CeeDee Lamb, or Saquon Barkley, and why? Donkey Teeth, you can go first. Saquon. I'm pretty big on Saquon. And I feel like if you only got –

honestly, I might not take Jefferson if you only need to start two wide receivers. That's really – that's a huge factor, especially, I don't know, did you say how many teams? Is it 10, 12? Twelve. Twelve. Yeah, I mean, still very shallow.

You only need two wide receivers. That's only 24 wide receivers that are going to be started, depending on if people throw them in their flex. But it really devalues wide receivers. So I would definitely be going running back with that pick. And honestly, I would consider running back with the first pick if there's any options there. But Saquon would be my guy. I'm good with Jefferson there, but I would take Aaron Jones in a second. Okay. All right. Thank you. Donkey T, thank you very much. This was a lot of fun.

Oh, you guys are great. Thanks for having me. And we'll see you at one o'clock. We'll see him in about two hours. We'll see him in the draft room. He won't be. I'm just going to hang out with you guys all day. Cool. All right. We will talk to you all at one. We'll see him in the draft room. I'm just going to hang out with you guys all day. Cool. All right. We will talk to you all at 1 o'clock with our live mock draft.

And if you can't catch that, that's at youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Join us at 7 o'clock where Scott Fish and Tara Roberts and I will be answering your questions and helping you with your Scott Fish Bowl drafts. If you're lucky enough to be like Heath, we'll be in round 10 by then. Donkey Teeth and I will probably be in round 3 or four by then, but we will talk to you then. So again, for Donkey Teeth and Heath Cummings, I'm Adam Azer. We've got Wide Receiver Tears. Oh, I forgot. Wide Receiver Tears is also tonight. What a busy day. Four shows. So that's usually our Wednesday show. It's actually going to be on Tuesday night at 8.15 Eastern with Heath and Jacob Gibbs. Alright, we'll see you

later everybody. Have a good one.