Fantasy Football Today - RBs 9-16 in the Rankings: Most Upside, Highest Floor, Riskiest Picks (06/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Jeremiyah Love, Cam Skattebo, Josh Jacobs and more! We debate RBs 9-16 in our consensus PPR rankings and we kick it off with a couple of stats (3:45) about touchdowns. W...hich of these running backs should you expect to score often? Which of these RBs are we drafting a lot (6:55) and which ones are we fading at their current ADP? ... We tell you what most of the eight RBs in this group have in common (18:00) and go through some news and notes (20:15) out of Giants camp, Browns camp, Texans camp and more. Then we debate Barkley vs. Henry (24:45) and Kenneth Walker vs. Love (32:55). Is Barkley the safest pick here? Is Walker set for his best season ever? ... We finish with our analysis on the last four RBs in this range (39:30) Josh Jacobs, Cam Skattebo, Kyren Williams and Breece Hall. All of them have pros and cons, upside and downside ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.comFantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcastsWatch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We are talking about running backs 9 through 16 in our consensus PPR rankings. And that would be, again, this is not ADP, this is our ranking. Sequin Barclay, Derek Henry, Ken Walker, Jeremiah Love, Kyron Williams, Josh Jacobs, Cam Scataboo, and Brees Hall. And the range for these guys and Fantasy Pro's ADP is Barclay at 15 all the way down to Scatibu at 44th overall. He's actually RB19 in ADPs. RBF-Fib 15 in our consensus rankings. Good morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Welcome to the show. It's Fantasy Football today on Wednesday, June 10th, Hump Day. Adam Azer with Dan Schneier and Heath Cummings. What's up, Dan? It's a big day for you tonight. Nixon, game four, got to win. Cannot lose this game, I don't think, and still win the series. I disagree on that.
Starting point is 00:01:11 But, yeah, it's a big game. Question for you. You know what? No, we won't do the banter now. We'll do the banter later. Remind me, after our first commercial break, I'll ask you, I'm going to put in the notes. Question. Heath, good after, good morning.
Starting point is 00:01:26 How are you? Good morning. I'm shocked to see that you were at home. because yesterday I was told that you were going to look at a trade offer when you got home. And I just assumed that you never went home and you were going to be podcasting from somewhere else. All right. All right. Let's look at the trade offer right now in our Bakeburger Dynasty League. Keith has offered me Isaiah likely and the sixth overall pick for Quentin Johnston and Cam Ward.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I don't think I can't give up Cam Ward. I'm sorry. I thought, okay. So I was confused. I thought that you were looking to trade cam ward so that you could take Fernando Mendoza at 102. I thought you said that you wanted to get better somewhere at trade cam ward for a different position
Starting point is 00:02:08 and draft Mendoza at 102. I was trying to help you make that happen. All right, you know what? I'm not going to reject it. I'm not going to reject it. You're just going to let it sit there for a couple months? I got to figure out who I'm going to get at six. Anyone know when this bakeburger draft is even happening?
Starting point is 00:02:24 No. Not so probably. Still TBD? Training. Are the roster still locked because I want to drop like 14 players? So I don't get stuck again. I'm not kidding. The roster's a lock.
Starting point is 00:02:34 They can't drop anyone. All right. I don't know. You want to lock the rosters at least? No, you know what? I don't want to do anything with this league right now. Let's get it to the show. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So I've got stats on these eight running backs. Not all of them, well, I do have stats on all of them. But I'm going to start with stats on two of them. Stat of the day, number one in the last two seasons, 14 running backs have at least five one-yard touchdown run. runs, okay? Including a guy like Sean Tucker. Sean Tucker has five one-yard touchdown runs.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Dan Schneier, how many does Sequin Barclay have in his two seasons with the Eagles? Ooh, one-yard touchdown runs. Yeah. Zero? Zero. He has zero. He has three carries from the one-yard line all in 2024, but zero. That's amazing that, like, Jonathan Taylor has, I think, 13 or something.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I think he is 10. And yeah, Jonathan Taylor has 10. Josh Jacobs has nine. Saquone Barkley has zero one-yard touchdown runs in the last two seasons. Heath, sat of the day number two. You try to scratch your head go, what is the Rams going to look like? The Rams back field. What are they going to look like with their split?
Starting point is 00:03:42 Because in the last 11 games of the season, Kyron Williams averaged 15 carries per game. Blake Quorum averaged 10 and a half. Well, the Rams have been top seven in running back carries, three straight seasons. And top four in running back carries inside the five-yard line in seven of their nine seasons under Sean McVay. Pretty cool. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's, uh, they, they score a lot of points. And it's, it's good that they still, even with having a goal line receiver like Devante Adams, um, still still get inside the five often enough to where they can have those types of carries. It was a bit of a down year, I guess, in terms of touchdowns for Kyran last year, but he still scored 13. Love it. That's what he does. Yeah, he sure does. And, you know, in those last 11 games, I think he would have been, based on the, hold on, instead of, instead of guessing, he would have been about RB 13, I think, per game, something like that, Kyron Williams, based on the points per game he had in that.
Starting point is 00:04:55 stretch. He averaged 14. Yeah, he averaged 14.7 PPR fantasy points per game. Based on the points per game, he would have been RB10 per game and non-PPR, RB 13 per game and half PPR, RB 14 per game in full PPR. But in that stretch, the Rams were number one in running back carries. They just, they ran a ton of plays. They had a lot of carries. All right. So, this is a couple of stats to think about here. There's obviously touchdowns are going to matter. And it's interesting, you know, I thought Dan, I was like doing the Stakein-Barkley research. I feel like he's a pretty good bounce back candidate. It seemed like last year was almost a worst case scenario.
Starting point is 00:05:31 He was R.B. 15 per game. I do think you have to worry about the touchdowns with him a little bit if he doesn't have some long touchdowns. It was most of his touchdowns in 2014 when he had 13 rushing touchdowns. A lot of them were of a great distance. No, just something to think about. Yep. All right. Let me give you some quick questions.
Starting point is 00:05:54 here. Which running back in this range do you think you'll draft a lot? That's Barclay, Henry, Walker, Love, Kyron, Jacob, Scataboo, Breece Hall. Which running back in this range, Dan, do you think it will draft a lot? I have probably three that stand out. Should I say the one I feel like I'll draft
Starting point is 00:06:10 the most of? You can just, yeah, give me all three in order. Walker? No, in order based on the fact that I don't think he'll go as high. Henry Walker, Scataboo, for me. And I think I'm back in on Breeze Hall at this price, too. Okay, Heath?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, I would say probably the cheapest ones. So, like, maybe the guys who go in round three, ADP is all over the place on these guys. Yeah. But Kyrin and Hall are the two that kind of stood out as most likely. I think we'll see Jeremiah loves ADP rise too. We already saw yesterday at practice or maybe it was from today. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:06:50 LaFleur mentioned, like, you know, like if you got, Steph Curry and he has the hot hand. You don't stop feeding him. It's kind of like what he was referencing what Jeremiah I love could be for that offense. It sounds great on paper. I would like to see it play out. I'm very skeptical about a lot of things with that offense.
Starting point is 00:07:07 But as far as like how it impacts his ADP, I think that's a guarantee. It's going to start your sky. We're going to see that ADP rise all the way. I wouldn't be surprised into the middle round too. Okay. So I'm just trying this this ADP I'm looking at is this is CBS. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, yeah, CBS ADP. And Fantasy Pro's ADP on a guy like Josh Jacobs is so different. Fantasy Pros has him 38th. And if you really, you know, you got these legal issues and, you know, if that gets resolved, I think it's going to be 25 where CBS has him. But he's been so consistent the last two years. And I think even at 25, he'd be a really good value because Josh Jacobs, In his first year with Green Bay, he was, I think, RB6 per game.
Starting point is 00:07:56 In his second year, RB9 per game, but he averaged about 19 PPR fantasy points per game. If you take out, he got injured. And he had three games where he played less than 40% of the snaps. When he's playing his normal snapshot, he's on pace for 16 total, no, he's on pace for 19 total touchdowns. And that's what he does. He just, he scores 28 touchdowns and 32 games with the play.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Packers. That's why we've seen such a shift, in my mind, at least in where the talent is in fantasy football. We have consistent producers now at running back in a range where we used to have consistent receivers and where we used to draft receivers consistently. We have to change because the reality is, I always talk about this, Adam. You know this is my big thing. This is still a big touchdown game fantasy football. We don't like to talk about it. They regress, blah, blah, can't predict it. But the reality is the people scoring points, the people scoring touchdowns for the most part. And that's what we're getting with these. running backs, Jacobs, Scataboo, potentially Walker, I think is going to have a lot of touchdowns this year. Henry, Williams, you mentioned before, downseason, he said 13. These are guys who score touchdowns. And that's why I think the whole strategy for fantasy is shifting regardless of if you're in PPR, half PPR, whatever it is, you need to get the consistent scores in this range of the draft. I'm looking at the receivers who we might be taking over these guys. And I still see way more question marks as far as scoring touchdown, scoring fantasy points, why I can't rely on than this group of backs.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Well, I think running backs generally score more touchdowns than wide receivers. And the fact that we now have more scoring and fewer plays and fewer yards because teams are starting closer to the goal line is also like I think the kickoff rule favors the running backs. And they can't throw the ball these teams. Most of these NFL teams are struggling to keep a passing game on time and in rhythm. And that's why I feel. And teams are playing too high split safety looks. yards are at a premium now. Touchdowns are still going to be had.
Starting point is 00:09:54 These are the guys that are going to score them. So I like this range for the most part. Okay. Just let's go to the second question. And which running backs in this range do you think you'll pass on? Heath. He's not drafted in Berkeley this year. What's that?
Starting point is 00:10:10 You're still out on Berkeley, I feel like. Yeah, I think like, again, we're kind of looking. I have Barclay. I think the really difficult part of this range is Henry, Barclay and Jacobs, and my projections, are a point per game better than everyone else in this group, and two or three points per game better than some of these guys. But they all have major red flag question works. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And so I, I'm probably not going to draft Josh Jacobs anywhere close to this until his, and if his legal issues are resolved. I'm probably not going to draft Walker or Love where they're going to go either. Because when Dan was talking about the touchdowns, they're kind of the two guys that I'm not sure are going to score touchdowns. Dan, why do you think Ken Walker is going to score touchdowns? I just think Ken Walker's going to score done and touch. I saw how many Kareem Hunt had over these last two years in that role with the chiefs. I don't know necessarily who's going to take over Hunt's role if it's not Walker in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:11:16 gives them so many more options as a receiver too. I just very high on this Walker Chiefs fit in general. I think I could be wrong on it. We'll find out I've never been a Walker guy my whole career in fantasy. I've always faded him, but we'll see. I just feel very good about how often they get in the red zone. Designs of plays in the red zone specifically in the run game, what Hunt has been able to do.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm not as worried. I'm more worried from a touchdown standpoint, but Barclay love these guys who are, Barclay's case, he's getting touchdown stolen from near the red zone. Love's case, I don't know how much they're going to score. Breeze Hall is probably in that mix of as far as like, are we looking at a player who are going to be relying too much on yards for because they're not scoring a lot of touchdowns?
Starting point is 00:11:55 But Hunt did score a lot of touchdowns relative to the number of touches that he got. Yeah. But this offense has averaged 9.3 running back rushing touchdowns per season over the last three years. Yeah, listen, it is actually in the Mahomes era, eight seasons of him being their starting quarterback, They've had two running backs finish top 15 per game in full PPR. They have not had a running back with more than 205 carries since Kareem Hunt in 2017. That was Mahomes' rookie season.
Starting point is 00:12:31 They have three running backs in the last eight years with more than 36 catches. One of them was Jerich McKinnon, one Darrell Williams, one Pacheco. Pacheco had 44. this has not been a good offense for running back fantasy points, but it also hasn't been an offense that's had good running backs. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. It hasn't had a Ken Walker at any point. I just, I think, like, except for the last month of Ken Walker's football playing,
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm not sure we thought he was that guy. My, yeah, look, Walker is actually only the highest finish he's had in four years. has been 12th per game in full PPR in 2024 when he had, he was on pace for like 70 catches. Right. The other three years of his career, he's averaged fewer than two catches per game. So he hasn't, Ken Walker hasn't really been that good for fantasy.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I take a look at his career. He's finished in full PPR, RB17, RB21, RB12, and RB28. And again, that one year, 2024, he had 46 catches and 11 games. However, he's had flashes every year. As a rookie, after Rashad Penny got hurt, he was top 10 per game in 11 games. 2023 got off to a great start, 17.4 points per game in his first six games and a couple of injuries, bad game scripts, things went downhill.
Starting point is 00:14:02 2024 got off to a hot start. Then he struggled. 2025 was amazing. 23.2 points per game in four games without Zach Sharpenet. So I just wonder if this is finally the situation. for King Walker. That's my thought. Like is this final situation?
Starting point is 00:14:16 Because what is really the competition on Chiefs roster? You're going to start to say players like Prashard Smith to me. I'm just going to be, and I like Emmett Johnson, no doubt. No, I think the big risk, and you don't even want to hear this name. And I definitely didn't want to hear this name last year at times. But the big risk is Amari D. Mercado. Because he is a pass catching back. And Eric B.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Enemy has already talked about how Walker has to get better to play on passing downs. I think Walker even needs to play. He's out. He has six catches on third down in his career. Yeah, I'm not worried about the passing downs. Red zone is where I'm worried about. And in general with the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:14:54 and I don't really see them, I don't foresee them taking Ken Walker off the field for Amari DiMercato in the red zone. That's a really bad season. No, I don't think so in the red zone, but I do think in the two-minute drove, maybe. I think let's look at it. I would think that's a mistake too,
Starting point is 00:15:08 but it's possible. That's possible. No, that's that probably, I mean, that could definitely happen. And it happened in Seattle. with Charbonnet. But I've got to take a break. But I just look at these eight running backs.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I think there's two things that we've kind of touched on here that most of them have in common. And let's get into that when we come back. So that's Barclay, Henry, Walker. I'll give you the names after the break. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. Running backs 9 through 16
Starting point is 00:15:31 in our current consensus rankings on CBS sports, PPR. Sequin Barkley, Derek Henry, Ken Walker, or Kenneth Walker, Jeremiah Love, I got to start calling him, Kenneth. Kairn Williams, Josh Jacobs, Cam Scataboo, and Breece Hall. So I think two things that most, not all, but most of them have in common.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Number one, not a lot of competition in the backfield. Sequin Barclay had the fifth most touches per game or maybe the fourth most touches per game at the running back position. He dominates touches. Derek Henry, he's not going to play on third down, but he's going to get basically every running back carry. Ken Walker doesn't have great competition. Jeremiah, I don't know. Kyron Williams, obviously, is the exception here. Josh Jacobs, not great competition.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Scataboo? I don't know. Tyrone Tracy's not bad. Tyrone Tracy is going to have a role. And Breeze Hall, you know, I don't know what to make of Braylon Allen, but he could factor in at the goal line. But there's that. These guys have a path.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Most of them have a path to big time work. The other thing is, I don't think we have to obsess over catches in this range. I don't know that there's a guy in this group that who's getting to 40 catches. Like, Breeze Hall should get to 40. Is anybody getting to 50? if they design the offense right, germ I love, but I doubt they'll do it that way.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So no. Yeah, so I don't think it's that big of a deal. He has a skill set for it. I don't think it's that big of a deal to be hunting for catches in this range. I think that's what I almost said at the beginning. Like,
Starting point is 00:16:58 this for me, feels like the danger zone at the running back position. And it's partially because of that. Because I don't think there's a lot of guys who are going to catch a lot of passes. and then if you don't, you have to score a lot of touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I used to feel like running back catches aren't as important as they used to be. I'm with you on that, Adam. There's a few guys who can separate themselves, like the McAfree types, but they're just down so much in the NFL. That's probably why they're not as important. There's just so few backs who are actually doing it. Yeah, I like to see if I could back that up with some numbers. I think I have that stat tucked away somewhere, but I'll explore that.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Dig into the Azer. comporium and finds mazer stats. I think I can find that, actually. All right. Let's get some news and notes out of the way, and we'll dive back into these eight running backs. Giants' minicamp, Jackson Dart, kind of a slow adjustment to a new offense.
Starting point is 00:18:00 He's had some good moments and bad moments in minicamp. But Cam Scadaboo, who is in this group of eight running backs, he participated in 11-on-11 reps for the first time. Cleveland head coach Todd Monkin is not ready to name a starting quarterback. They're about to break their mini camp and have a little time off before training camp, but they're not going to have a starting quarterback name before training camp. He said both Sanders and Watson have played well. We had a report out from the Houston Chronicle. Tank Dell expected back for training camp. That was from Jonathan M. Alexander. So Tank Dell
Starting point is 00:18:29 expected back for training camp. That's great. He also said that Jalen Knoll made a lot of plays on the first mini camp practice. We also had that report that I mentioned, I think, yesterday. Jaden Higgins looking good right now. So, Heath, all those things I said about Nico Collins being my favorite value, am I overlooking the competition in the receiving core? Well, I think Niko Collins, when he is 100% healthy, is the type of guy that competition really shouldn't matter. Like, for, I will say you one thing.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And I mentioned this on FFT Dynasty yesterday. Had Alfredo Brown on, you do not want to listen to that episode, Adam, because he's not a huge fan of Jackson, Dart. but what I had recently looked up was C.J. Stroud has been much, much better when Tank Dell's been on the field. Eight yards per attempt in the year and a half for full year when he had Tank Dell, right around seven when he didn't. So I think it'll be a good thing for Stroud to have Tank Dell there. And I do think that they, if, like, Dell, Higgins and Jaylon Null is, is probably the best competition.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Well, he had Diggs and Tankdale at the same time. He did. Yes. I don't remember how what he did that year. Oh, he was insane. Nico Collins, the first four games, he was on pace for like, I think 200 targets or something crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And then he got dinged up. He got hurt in week five. And it wasn't really the same when he came back. And when he came back, I'm pretty sure Diggs was already out for the year with the ACL. But it was a super small sample size. We had 14 running backs in 2023 that had 50 or more catches. The year before that, we had 11. The last two years, 2024, we had 9.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And 2025, we had 7. Yep. So it is going down, clearly. It is. I mean, I don't know about 40 catches or whatever, but that particular number has been lower the last two years. More news items. Alec Pierce could be back from his ankle injury
Starting point is 00:20:41 a couple of weeks into training camp. I do suspect you'll see his ADP start to fall a little bit. Training camp happens and Alec Pierce is on the Pup list. Javante Williams was not at OTAs for unknown reasons. Phil Mafa got the first team reps or the first reps with the first team. John Shipley of SI, he does a good job covering the Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:21:02 He said Basil Tutin is looking explosive in camp. He did caution that nobody has pads on, but he's looking very good. And Chris Rodriguez is out, by the way, with a foot injury. He said, sixth round pick, wide receiver, Josh Cameron, could work his way into the rotation
Starting point is 00:21:17 as an outside receiver at some point. Boy, they're going to play a lot of receivers. And head coach Liam Cohen isn't sure when Travis Hunter is going to be full go. Former Browns guard, Joel Betonio, is retiring at age 34. The Browns basically have an entirely new offensive line. I want to say four or five spots are new this year.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And more hate to... hate seeing this kind of news, but Rams left tackle, Alaric Jackson, he was arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence. Obviously, we don't know what happened. We'll keep an eye on that important player.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He has been punished under the personal conduct in the past. I think he's already had a two-game suspension. Yeah. So could be significant if he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 All right, we got Beyond the Box score. We got FFT Dynasty. Beyond the Box score, has its own YouTube channel. F50 Dynasty, you can see all that stuff at YouTube.com slash fantasy football today.
Starting point is 00:22:11 They each have their own podcast feed. They each have dashing, fantastic hosts, and you should listen and watch those podcasts. Okay, let's, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. So thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Oh, okay, yeah, good. It's a nice thing you ever said about me. Sequin Barclay versus Derek Henry. Who do you like better? It's a tough one for me this year. I've just been high on Henry for the last couple of years
Starting point is 00:22:38 and just not ready to quit him, not a big believer in the age or whatever it may be. That's the supposed red flags with Derek Henry because of things like you see here. Even in a down season, I guess it was considered for him. It's 16 rushing touchdowns. How many touchdowns are going to have this year?
Starting point is 00:22:57 How is it going to be lower than 15? This is the question I ask myself with Henry every year. In what world outside of an injury is this guy not scored 15 touchdowns? There's really no world. Yeah, there is one world. if the Ravens are not good because he doesn't do as well when they lose. Right, but it's Lamar Jackson and they have a good defense. Like I don't, do you just expect the Ravens to not be good this year?
Starting point is 00:23:20 I expect them be good. I mean, they have, I don't know what to expect with a new offensive coordinator, but I would expect it to look like the Ravens. I would too. And they've been a really good franchise. They've drafted really well. They have a really good infrastructure there and Lamar Jackson, most importantly. So as long as they're good again, I expect them to score a lot of touchdowns
Starting point is 00:23:36 and be a really safe, fine fantasy bet. just him versus Barclay's interesting. I think Eileen Henry, honestly, the more I think about it. Because of what you said, like, Barclays were so reliant on long touchdowns at this point in his career. I don't want to say he's so reliant. He said he, he, take on Berkeley has zero one yard rushing touchdowns in the last two years. But he does have, I think, four two yard rushing touchdowns. There are some.
Starting point is 00:24:01 But it is an issue for running backs in Philadelphia. One of those two years that he had zero one yard rushing touchdowns. he was the best player in fantasy, right? He was. Right. Yeah. And he still has that upside if the Eagles can get back to where they were. There's just so many more ifs for me with Barclay. It depends on can this offensive scheme take a big jump? And is it going to be good with Mannion?
Starting point is 00:24:22 We don't really know what Mannion's going to bring to the table. Can Jailen Hertz still play at a high level without A.J. Brown? I don't know how much of an impact he was having on his game. It's not like he was really throwing for that many yards anyway, but it is what it is. But we're talking about a player who has nine rushing touchdowns last year in a down year. So there's still a floor for Berkeley. I just feel like with Henry, I've a clear path toward points.
Starting point is 00:24:44 He had seven rushing touchdowns. He had two receiving. Sure. Whatever it may be, nine total. I just feel like there's a clearer path toward points to Henry. He's going to have close to, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:53 maybe double. It's possibly double the touchdowns Barkley as. The only thing I worry about, and Adam, you've talked about this a lot, but with Henry losing his center and losing his fullback, his last three years in Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:25:08 when he was actually in his prime, he averaged 4.3 yards per carry. It's a good point. The two years in Baltimore, he's averaged 5.6. Now, that's not all his center and his fullback. Some of it's the fact that the defense has to account for Lamar Jackson. But if we see Jackson rushing less, which I think we saw a little hint of last year,
Starting point is 00:25:30 and their blocking isn't as good up front, he might lose two or three fantasy points per game just due to rushing efficiency. And he already lost points per game. He went from RB4 per game in his first year with the Ravens to RB7 per game. And he went from he went from like 19, yeah, 19 points per game, I think. 19.9 to 16.8. So, and I think part of it last year was there were a few games without Lamar Jackson where he struggled and the team really struggled.
Starting point is 00:26:04 He was really, really good with Lamar Jackson. It's the other thing. If Lamar's healthy this year, that offense is going to be so much better, which is going to lead to more scoring opportunities. I don't know for sure if the paths of the Eagles being an explosive offense is really as clear as it seems. No, I know. I haven't said it in a few months, but I used to say it all the time. One of the toughest decisions fantasy managers are going to have to make is looking at the Eagles offense and going, are they going to get back to being one of the best offenses in football or is that era over? And if it is, Barclay's not a bad pick, but he's a bad pick relative to his ADP when you can get some of these other backs in that range. Dan is just now trolling me with Jalen Hertz. Lies.
Starting point is 00:26:49 No, no, no. Lies in the chat. What do you mean? Blatently lying in the chat. Let's take a look. I think it's pretty close to what I said. Okay. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The guy threw 29-100 yards. Yeah, it was. 24 in 14 games. Okay. Still 2,900 yards. Over a full season. It's 2,900 yards. Let's give him a couple extra yards.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He threw for 3,200 last year, 2,900 year before. The Kellynmore year, he got the 3,800. I think it's unfair to say he threw for 2,900 yards in a full season when he missed three games. All right. It's not a full season. But last year was a full season through for 3200. We're not that, but that's not much better. It was not a full season.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He didn't play week 18 last year. He didn't play week 18. I mean, everybody misses a game or two, right? Every quarterback missed a game or two. No, that's not true. Is every quarterback playing full 17? A lot of them do. I mean, he was the starting quarterback for most of the year.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Yeah, but you got to give him an extra game. Look, there's no question last year was not a good year. The offensive line by most much. Last year is not a good year. No years are good years from a passing standpoint. No, I don't know about that. Besides the Kellyn Moore. Besides the Kellynne Moore.
Starting point is 00:28:02 no year's been good from a passing. Okay, but that was a year. It's a matter of pass attempts. You're acting like he doesn't do well per attempt. He just doesn't throw very often. I mean, he bombs it up and he gets these one-on-one looks on the outside. Of course, per attempt, it's going to look good. And just to be clear one more time, because Dan refuses to say anything factual about Jalen Hertz,
Starting point is 00:28:26 his worst game of or worst season of his career in terms of, of passing yards per game was the Kellynne Moore year. Dan always says he was only good as a passer, the Kellynne Moore year. It's the only year that he threw for less than 200 yards per game. Really? It's just completely, factually inaccurate, Dan. We're talking about 200 yards per game, Heath. That's the bar you're setting?
Starting point is 00:28:52 All right. I'm saying you always say it's the only year he was good as a passer. It was his worst year in terms of passing yards. He threw for 200. The offense looked okay to me from a rhythm standpoint as a pastime. Exactly. Exactly. It's Dan. In the late time he was actually moving the ball on a consistent basis through the year.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I guess now he just bombs it up on these one-on-ones and it works a lot. He's got a great deep ball. There's no doubt about it. One of the best in the NFL. The Shane Steichen year was the year that he averaged 247 yards. Okay. Either way. Let's stop talking about him.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I don't know if there's anything else we want to say about Barclay. I think it's it is kind of interesting that in the rare cases where, A.J. Brown has not played. Sequin Barclay usually gets five, I think he gets about five targets per game when A.J. Brown hasn't played something like that or five targets, maybe in three of the four games. But that's not with Hertz, is it?
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah. That's right. His career numbers? It's only four games. It's only four games at Brown as best that Barclay has played. But now, he gets more targets. Maybe they'll throw a little bit more than they have the past couple years.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So he's got, he had 37 catches in 16 games. can get to 40 catches. That's really not that bad. And maybe there's room for more. He can be really good with the ball on his hands. And in his seven healthy seasons, Seguan Barclay's been a top nine
Starting point is 00:30:14 running back per game in five of seven seasons. He's played eight years, one of them he played two games. Five of seven seasons have been top nine per game. He's currently RB9 in our consensus rankings. So I would say that's a pretty good case for his floor. Last year was the second worst year of his career. The other one was the year after he.
Starting point is 00:30:31 he tours ACL with the Giants. All right. Let's go to our next two, Dan. Let's go to Ken Walker versus Jeremiah Love. Kenneth Walker versus Jeremiah Love. That's running backs 11 and 12 in our consensus rankings. Heath, who do you like better? I will go with Kenneth Walker here.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Again, I think I said these were the two guys that I thought I was least likely to draft. But I've got Walker basically right at, I think, his ADP on CBS is 23.5 is what this says. I've got him at 25 overall. So there's, listen, if Eric B. Enum is back. He's supposed to be very good at coaching the run game. They, Patrick Mahomes maybe won't run as much as he has in the past, although somebody brought up on a show on FFT Dynasty a week or so ago, like, remember like every time Patrick Mahomes gets hurt and is hobbling around and looks like he can't walk and then he always, as a 25-yard run.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I kind of think he may just run coming off the injury anyway. But if Mahomes doesn't run and this team goes more run-heavy, then I think Walker, like Dan's case for Walker being a clear RB1 could definitely happen. But it's not a certain thing. I would, Dan, before you even, so you're going Walker, Heath, and his ADP is actually 16th on fantasy pros. Right. It's round three, into round three on CBS, Ken,
Starting point is 00:32:01 Walker, Kenneth Walker, sorry. I just feel like right now, Jeremiah Love is one of the toughest players to rank personally. I mean, it's going to be within a range of 12 picks or something like that, but it's not like he's going to be around five pick or something, but I don't
Starting point is 00:32:17 know where, I don't know if it's a late round two, if it's mid round three or whatever, but I don't know. I just don't always expect. We've struggled to return like anything on our investment lately with these types of players to Gentie being the most recent of that example. And this is not where ends. Like like I said, this ADP will go higher than 31.5 for Love. The minute we get all the hype at camp, it's over for that standpoint, I think. So that'll be a tough one for me to buy into. But the upside for me for Love is like, the Cardinals offense scored last year. They were a good fantasy offense. They were good. It was good to be a part of that fantasy offense. They didn't really find anyone at running back. Once Connor went down, Benson could never get healthy. But as like the receiver scored, Reset scored, they moved the ball. Their defense was horrific. So they were just playing in these shootouts with good tempo.
Starting point is 00:33:01 entire year. They didn't fix that defense in one off season. I'll tell you that. Like, Walter Nolan's a great player. I don't know if he's going to be 100% this year. Coming back from the injury, they were really bad once he got injured last year, too. And he was a rookie anyway to begin with. So like I feel like they could be similar game script this year. So that's the upside, I think, for love. Tons of plays, tons of tempo, scoring opportunities based on being down 21 points in a game and they just have to, you know, they're playing catch up against cover two. With Walker, it's like, well, we talked a lot about already, but also the one thing I didn't mention on this show, but I mentioned before,
Starting point is 00:33:32 it's the number one thing for me. Isaiah Pacheco faced the number one light boxes in the NFL of all running backs. He was terrible, but now it's Kenneth Walker. Can Kenneth Walker face a light box, see the crease, hit it, and turn this into a 13-point fantasy play on any given play. And I think the answer could be yes in a lot of these games. I wonder how much of that, like I know that teams historically have played like light boxes against the chiefs a lot because of Patrick Holmes.
Starting point is 00:34:00 But also, I wonder how much of Pacheco's light box rate from last year is the fact that they just refused to let him play on anything close to a short yardage run. Like it was Kareem, every time it was an obvious thing. That's definitely important. Yeah. It's heavy. Here comes Kareem up. That's good context. If he's not in any short yard situations, he's going to have a better chance to face a higher percentage of light boxes.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So definitely good context. Yeah. All right. But also, like as far as love goes, I, I, I would bet lots and lots and lots of money that when we get to mid-August, he has around 280 people. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 It's going to shoot up. Cardinals have one of the hardest schedules in the NFL. And they start with the Rams, the Seahawks. I don't know if the 49ers are tough. But they do have a very difficult schedule. I think that probably favors him. Favors love? Yeah, in the running back competition.
Starting point is 00:34:56 because I would hope they would use him on passing downs. I don't know. But maybe not. I mean, maybe they want a better pass protector. Again, I'm not, you know what? I'm moving on from love. It's just too early right now. Who's going to be on the roster?
Starting point is 00:35:12 What's the future of James Connor? Let's see what happens here. But Kenneth Walker, I think you've heard Dan being much higher on Walker than Heath. I'm sorry, Heath. two, three turn for Walker, you're okay with that? Okay. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:29 All right. We'll take a break and talk about Kairn Williams, Josh Jacobs, Cam Scadaboo, and Breece Hall when we come back. The next two running backs in the consensus rankings are Kairn Williams and Josh Jacobs. And that would be running backs 13 and 14 in our PPR consensus rankings. And is it easy to say, Heath, that Jacobs would be ahead if we, if there were no No risk of a suspension. Everything was hunky-dory and normal in Josh Jacobs land.
Starting point is 00:35:58 He'd be not only ahead of Chiron, but maybe ahead of Walker and love. He would, for me, if there was absolutely no question about Josh Jacobs, he would be right in the mix with sake one and Henry. Yeah. Dan, do you agree? Agree, 100%. I mean, just to play devil's advocate, and I already made the case for Jacobs, he's been so good. He averaged four yards per carry last year. He does that a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Four of his seven seasons, he's 4.1 yards per carry or worse. You know, he has, since he came in the NFL, he has the second most carries in football behind Eric Henry, but he's about 300 more than Sequin Barclay,
Starting point is 00:36:41 who's number three. But he's got the 13th most carries of 40 or more yards. You just don't see a lot of home runs from Josh Jimbs. So you need volume. You need a lot of it. There's no reason to think he won't get it,
Starting point is 00:36:52 but he's not that efficient. typically if they don't score touch as if they're less run heavy there's some downside there but it seems like you're getting to a point in the draft like you could even start with number one over there's downside for almost every player right so right we're nitpicking here Josh Jacobs is Josh Jacobs is I mean we're talking about guys here with Jacobs Henry who are getting you a floor of six points a week on average basically I mean 16 touchdowns are Henry's 14 for Jacobs a little less for Jacobs but we're talking about almost a six point head start per week and when you look at some of these receivers you could draft in this range.
Starting point is 00:37:26 We used to have a six point head start with those guys too. Now you don't get that anymore. There's just not the consistency in the passing game across the NFL. So I just want a guy like Jacobs who I know is going to be getting all the touchdowns there, even if the efficiency is no longer there, even if the explosive runs are no longer there. The passing game stuff comes and goes with him. I feel like it's game to game. But there's a little bit of a boost whenever it comes.
Starting point is 00:37:47 But the touchdowns are just worth so much to me. All right. Heath, so maybe we'll just talk about the other three running backs. Kyrin versus Skataboo Scataboo versus Breece Hall is an easy call for you? No, I wouldn't say it's an easy call.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I've gone back and forth between Brees and Kyrin here recently and I think I actually would prefer Brees at the moment. Oh, wow. Just because
Starting point is 00:38:18 I don't really think the situations in Los Angeles or Chicago are going to change as far as the sharing goes. And Hull has the possibility of just dominating the workload for the Jets. And I expect that he's going to get back to catching passes more than he did last year because he's been awesome at it whenever they let him do it. And I think it was just a dumb mistake they made last year. So I think those two, I really go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I'm probably going to remain just a little bit lower on Scataboo relative to those guys because of concerns about the injury. I think Reese Hall, I'm not sure he's going to have the third down roll. He didn't have it last year. He should still catch more passes, though, 36 catches in 16 games. I think what's so interesting, I believe I brought this up a few weeks ago. So I'm sorry for repeating stuff, but I forgot that I said it. So maybe you forgot that I said it.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Breece Hall was on pace, he played 16 games, he was on pace for 258 carries. If you just take the last 11 games for Kyron Williams when he was splitting somewhat evenly with Blake Corum, Kyron Williams was on pace for 254 carries. That's four fewer than Breeze Hall over a full season. So that's amazing to me. I don't know that Kyron can get to 15 per game
Starting point is 00:39:48 if the split is what it was last year, because again, they were first and running back, carries per game in that stretch the Rams. But even with him splitting, I guess the point is the workload may not even be that much better because the Rams could have so many more opportunities than the Jets. That's just something to keep in mind. And Kyron doesn't catch the ball. It's annoying.
Starting point is 00:40:11 He runs so many routes. His target per hour run rate is super low. If they ever start throwing him, he's on the field enough to be a 40 to 50 catch guy. And they just don't throw the ball to him. but okay uh dan what's your take on kairn versus brees hall versus scataboo i think i lean i mean karen's the safer floor play here him and scadaboo are in a similar like realm for me scadaboo probably has more upside because there's a possibility that the giants could open the year with neighbors on pup and scataboo is kind of the focal point of that offense i could completely see that coming out
Starting point is 00:40:47 that way if scadaboo is as healthy as he looks already and he's i mean the fact that fact that he's already taking part in team drills in in in minicamp is pretty surprising to say the least and a good sign as far as where he's headed he had seven touchdowns and eight games i believe he played that's you know henry type numbers from a touchdowns standpoint on an offense that we expect to potentially take a jump this year with the addition to francis mauranoa right guard among other things they've done at receiver versus what they had last year so there's more upside there but there's more floor with williams so it depends on how you want to play that bris saw is the interesting one because you went through all all of all of the
Starting point is 00:41:20 the context with him. There's also the possibilities playing behind by far and away the best offensive line he's had in his career from if those two tackles develop the way they could. And in some ways, like more competent quarterback play possibly than he's had. It sounds crazy. But we're talking about guys like Brady Cook starting four or five games for them at
Starting point is 00:41:41 times. You know, Justin Fields is what it is. Good athlete. Like not a great quarterback. So if Gino can get back to playing at the levels he played before last year when the old line just broke down immediately for him in Vegas, it's possible this offense can be a little sneaky. And that's when I'm a little bit more interested in Hall. So I see like a little bit more upside with Hall than I expected to see when I went into the season like evaluating these players.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And I think for me also like if I if you were just going to ask me who is the most talented player. Yeah. It's pretty sole. Sure. That's a great point. He's definitely the chance that has the best chance to break a long 10, 11 points. fantasy play at any point. And unfortunately, he hasn't really shown that much of that since his rookie year,
Starting point is 00:42:26 but I do think it's there. And like Scadaboo had something like 100 carries and only one of them went for more than 20 yards. He's not that kind of runner, but he's going to knock people over, but not run away from people. Kyron's all. Kyron is so good, so consistent, but he's another guy who's not making big, big plays. Kyran's metrics were so good last year, but you know what's interesting?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Blake Corums were better. And not by much. It depends which metric you look at. But Blake Quorum also had a great year. So he deserves, he deserves carries. Blake Quorum led all running backs in yards before contact per carry by a lot. That is something that we look at Sekewan Barkley from 2024 to 2025. That could come down significantly and maybe we'll have a less efficient season.
Starting point is 00:43:14 but Kyran is just really good, really solid. And that's the thing with Kyran. The last three years of his career, I think the worst he's finished is ninth per game. But it's not hard for me to paint this picture of he's in a 55, 45, 45 split, catching two passes a game. That sounds bad, right? It's hard to see Kyran not being good
Starting point is 00:43:41 because he's been really good three straight years, but he, I could, I could throw the case out there that he has a low floor. Yeah, I don't, I think people have been making that case for the last three years because they don't think he's actually that talented and it's just a bunch of touchdowns. But I think it's hard to argue like that he has a, compared to the guys on this graphic, that he has a low floor. if we were ranking him where he's finished the past three years and comparing him to guys in that range,
Starting point is 00:44:17 then I think that, yeah, he would maybe have a low floor. But I don't, I can't say he has a lower floor than Scataboo or Breece Hall or Walker or Jeremiah Love. I think he has a lower floor than Walker. The other three I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I just, yeah, I don't know. I feel like Walker is one of those guys that has basically no competition. I, again, I don't expect them to be the, or down back. Walker has never had a season as good
Starting point is 00:44:46 as Kairn's worst season in the last three years. Is that accurate? I think that's probably true. I wonder in 2024 full PPR for Walker versus 2025 for Kyrn. It's probably close. But yeah, I agree with you. You have to sort of take this mindset that Walker's in the best
Starting point is 00:45:06 situation of his career and Kyrin's in the worst situation of career, which I believe. I think that's true if he gets more work in the passing game. I don't think the 2026 chiefs are a better situation for a running back in a vacuum. But it was a bad situation for him last year because he had to share. Who? Ken Walker saying? Right. But like if you're asking me, do I, if I'm a running back,
Starting point is 00:45:42 And I can either be in the chief system or in the Kubiak system in Seattle. I would rather have a running back in the Kubiak system. Kubiak's not there, though. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know why. Yeah, we're comparing last year of Seattle to this year, Kansas City. By the way, Kenneth Walker in 2024 averaged 16.5 points per game. That is better than the 15.7 Kairn Williams average last year.
Starting point is 00:46:07 But I don't really even count that year because, again, 46 catches and 11 games. It's just so out of character for Kenneth Walker. But he absolutely, you look at Kyron Williams, you can't say Jeremiah Love is a higher floor or Cam Scataboo or Breece Hall. And if Scataboo, Dan, I mean, it does seem like rainbows and butterflies right now with Scataboo, but I'd say this a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It's always like that. The reports are always like that. And then the guy comes on the field, and a year later they're going, well, and there wasn't really 100% coming back from the injury, and now I am, you know. So you have to, to take a bit of a leap of faith.
Starting point is 00:46:42 That we don't know, but what do you, yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, it is a really good, like, I think true point in the chat, because Dan was talking about how he's never been a Ken Walker guy and he's never drafted him. He said, I think Walker's higher in people's rankings if they've never had shares of him before. Yeah. Yeah. I think Kyran's kind of the opposite of that. It's like, if you've never had Kyron on your team, you might be a little lower on him because his profile looks like not that impressive.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But if you've rostered Kyron in the past, it's really nice to have a a guy that just touches the ball almost 20 times every game. I do want to say more about Walker. Maybe I'll save it. Oh, you forgot to remind me to ask the big question. Yes. That is also a good point, though, on Scadabu. Like, he is clearly the lowest floor of this group by far, based on what you said.
Starting point is 00:47:26 If he doesn't, that injury is not a guarantee to return 100% from or even anywhere close. I'm just going to say, right now, I am pretty much out on the Giants. The only giant I want to draft right. Offensive. Yeah. The only giant I want to draft right now is Tyrone and Tracy. because he goes super late, and I don't even want to draft him necessarily,
Starting point is 00:47:44 but I'm just not that optimistic about their offense because of the neighbor's injury, because of the Scataboo injury, because of the offensive coordinator. Obviously, I hope I'm wrong. But, yeah, I haven't drafted Scataboo yet. I think he's being drafted based on what he did last year, which is amazing, but I'm just,
Starting point is 00:48:04 he was on pace for 60 catches in his healthy games. I don't, that's a lot. Is he a 60 catch guy? seems like crazy to me. I don't think so in the offense that the Giants are going to run. Right. Right. And you're not out unlikely, are you?
Starting point is 00:48:22 Oh, sorry. That's actually my, that's the guy. Love him. Love that pick. 130th overall or something. That's crazy. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'm not that optimistic about the Giants like taking this big step. They were about an average offense last year. I assume they'll be the same. But maybe not. Okay, and then last thing about Ken Walker, the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:48:47 four straight years during Ken Walker's career, they just like compared Seahawks to Chiefs. They are like, let's see, where they've ranked in running back carries per game, I think. Something like 26th or worse, all four years.
Starting point is 00:49:01 They just don't run the ball. But I actually think that it would make sense for the Chiefs to change their offense a little bit. like they're not passing the ball well their defense i don't think is going to be as good i think they they are going to be a different offense they run r pos and never run out of rpeos is what they've like what they did last year they had they had the highest rate of passing on rpeos uh i think of any team in the nfl um i would expect it'll be a little different but sorry so it's their they're running
Starting point is 00:49:34 back rush attempts ranked the last four years chiefs have been 25th 30th 18th and 20s The Seahawks were 21st, 25th, 29th, and 1st. Kenneth Walker never actually played in an offense that ran the ball a lot until last year. He also, if you look at his yards per carry, and it kind of correlates to the ranking of the offensive line, whether they had a good offensive line or a bad offensive line. And the Chiefs last year struggled, but they had injuries. The Chiefs, three years before that, had an awesome offensive line. So I think there's so much lining up in Ken Walker's favor. The chiefs have a, I would say my perspective, and I don't know what Dan's is,
Starting point is 00:50:15 but my perspective on the chief's offensive line is that it is very volatile going into this year. It could be very good and it could be a big problem. The chief's offensive line is the most, what's the word I'm looking for, is the most perplexing to me of any O line in the NFL. I look at it on paper and I'm like, how in the world were they not able to run the ball last year with Tray Smith and Creed Humphrey next to each other on an offensive line. I don't care what's going on around them.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And I, like, my biggest concern with Walker is like, has the run game past Andy Reed? Because that's my question when I watch the Chiefs. I don't see a lot of diversity in their run game. I don't see a lot of interesting, unique things for the, like he'll use pre-snap motion, but as far as there's not a lot of power gap in that offense or it's really not executed in a way that's creating these massive holes.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And again, on an offense, it's facing light boxes a lot of times. Split safety looks all the time. Teams playing off-covered against Mahomes. It's very perplexing. They have good players on that line, Heath, but it is volatile. And obviously, Josh Simmons is a whole other story. We don't know if he's going to be there for the whole year, whatever's going on with him. I think this could possibly be Andy Reid's last year that he kind of forced him out.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You already made that prediction. The chiefs are going to miss the playoffs again, and he will be forced to retire. I'll take a cheese make the playoffs bet with you, Adam. Well, it was more of a bold prediction. Okay. I'll give you odds. I think they're in a little bit of trouble right now. I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I mean, they've got the Broncos who probably would have won the Super Bowl if Bo Nix didn't get hurt last year. And they've got the Chargers who are obviously going to be in the Super Bowl this year. They might, yeah. Seventh year running where they are the most popular pick to emerge. as a Super Bowl contender. I just don't know. I just, if Mahomes plays all games
Starting point is 00:52:09 and it looks like he's going to, at least that's a guess, but he's already practicing, they're not missing the playoffs. He's still Mobs. Yeah. Okay. Who's going to defend the pass?
Starting point is 00:52:20 Their cornerback room is, I mean, they just got a legarius sneak. They got a luxurious sneak back. That could work for nothing. It's probably going to work. It was a very, very belich move, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. Yeah, it was a very, yeah. And they drafted a corner at six. Yeah, and they also drafted a corner at the lane. Delane. But that doesn't mean that they're going to have good cornerbacks.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Throw a rookie out there and a guy who just had a top six pick and a guy who was great in the scheme before he went to Tennessee. I think they're pretty fine there. So big question here. We got game four tonight. We got game five on Saturday. Are you doing another thing where you have to miss half the game or whatever? Kids birthday. No.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Games one and three, I don't know if you know this, Dan. but games one and three, I watched the first half live and then did bedtime. We got the kids to sleep, turned off my phone. Yep. Watch the second half with my wife on DVR. Okay. Finished probably like 45 minutes after the game ended. Nothing wrong with that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I hate it. I don't know if I can do it. You know, the kids go to bed early. They don't go to bed early. They do not go to bed early. The earliest, my son fell asleep at 9.30 last night. The earliest in months. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I think this is an appropriate time to introduce melatonin. You know what? I asked the doctor about that. And the pediatrician said, oh, melatonin, no, do not do that. Yeah, the pediatrician said, that's not something you want to make a habit of. Once in a while.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Right, not a habit. Just only when the Knicks are in the NBA finals. That's not a habit. All right, so whatever. Tonight, I'm not sure I can do this again. But Saturday is game five, which is either the biggest game ever or a clincher, potentially.
Starting point is 00:54:04 there's a big outdoor watch party in town, like a big feel, they're going to do food trucks, they're going to do a projector. What do you think? Yay or nay? Yay. You're taking the kids? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yes, 100%. Yeah. I think it's all about the energy. Like, there's going to be good energy there. It's going to be good atmosphere. I think it's fun. Yeah, but at the same time, I can't really get intense and watch the game. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It takes away from that. Why? Actually, I don't know why you can. Too many distractions. Come on. Can I have ice cream? And they're throwing balls. It's just like, it's not that kind.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I don't know. It's too social. It's too social. I'll see a lot of people I know, which is great on one hand. But also it's not, I can't lock it. I'll have fun, but I can't lock in. It has its pros and cons. I think the pros probably outweigh the cons though.
Starting point is 00:54:56 All right, we'll see. I think maybe if it's a clincher, if they win game four, it would be fun to celebrate with people. Yeah. If it's 2-2, I think I want to lock in and be intense. You might need to be at home at 2-2, because that's a totally different scenario. That's like, oh, my God, if we lose this,
Starting point is 00:55:12 it's over. We can't lose three in a row. And then look at this comment from Andy. Cains tied up the series last night in Vegas. Man, the Cup final has been an all-timer. It's been great. It has. You know, they were saying on the broadcast last night
Starting point is 00:55:24 that the first three games that they thought they were the best first three games in Stanley Cup finals history. And then last night, they had like two goals right out of the game. a third one. The fact that the Keynes could win a game after being down 4-0, tying it up 4-4, and then losing that game, that should kill your momentum for this.
Starting point is 00:55:42 It just shows like hockey is an awesome sport. Like they can refresh on a night-to-night basis. Speaking of hockey, have you been following all of these World Cup visitors who are here from other countries? No. And like discovering America, it's fantastic. Where do you find?
Starting point is 00:56:03 this. On Twitter. I'll share a couple of them. Yeah, I'll say it. There's a, there was a, there was a, there was a German fellow that was at Buckees at 1 a.m. getting dinner last night and just amazed by Buckees. There was one of them that was floating down the, some river in Tennessee. Like, just, it's amazing stuff. That's cool. That's awesome. Dan, I got a couple of grind my gears. Oh, I love a good grind my gear segment. Heath reminded me of one. Number one, I can't. can't, in all seriousness, I cannot stand Twitter anymore. All it is now is Nick's stuff. Yeah, it's bad. It's like, I appreciate that. I enjoy the Nick stuff, but I would also like to learn about other things. I would like to go on there. That's because you like a lot of Nick stuff. Yeah, I don't, I don't like hit like on anything. I don't do, I don't reply to anything. My timeline is 90% Nix videos and I, I don't, I could use 30%, but I would like to just use the follow tab instead of the for YouTube. Yeah, you could do that. Oh, okay. Okay, I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah, and then you just solve it immediately. The follow. Then you're going to get a lot of fantasy stuff. Oh, following. Oh, oh. Those are the people you're following. The following. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And not just what the algorithm. That's better. That's better. That's better. Okay. The other thing, oh, man. This was a bad guy right here. But anyway, move on to the next.
Starting point is 00:57:24 All right. The people who leave the shopping cart, I called them the stem of the earth. I got people who are much worse. Oh, really? The problem is I've been this person. multiple times. I think we all have. What?
Starting point is 00:57:38 Last Monday, I was driving to Yonkers at like 5.30, right? Rush hour. Why would you ever have to do that? I had to go to Macy's. And then I went to Alckers. It was a fun night.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. So anyway, getting off the highway, no traffic until we get off the highway. The exit to get off the highway was about 15 minutes. of sitting in line. So you don't like the people who drive up to the left
Starting point is 00:58:06 and cut off? Not only do I not like them, I think they're disgusting human beings. But I've done it before. But you've done it. But the lady who did it to me and then five minutes later she tried to not let someone else in
Starting point is 00:58:19 who was pulling her move. That is super scummy. That's the scum of the earth right there, the hypocrite. Would you, but... The hypocrite, yeah. Would you rather somebody get in front of you and then not go
Starting point is 00:58:32 so they can let somebody else go, and then that person doesn't go so they can let somebody else go. You don't ever move. You need them to be selfish once they get in front of you. I mean, I play defense. As anyone who would listen to this podcast ever could probably predict,
Starting point is 00:58:47 I'm defensive. I will not let you in. I will not let and I'll look at you too. I'll take a look to that window, if you look at me anyway, say, nope, you're not getting a PSA, Dan, a PSA for you.
Starting point is 00:58:58 It is not worth it. Don't do that. I know, people are crazy on the road. It's not a good idea. People are insane. It's a really bad idea, but I don't like it. I don't like people cutting me off. The thing I like grinds my gears even more.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Okay, this one, if you're going through an intersection and you get to a light and you're taking a left, right? Yeah. Do the smart thing and do the considerate thing if you have to take your left, but it's a busy row coming both way. It's one of those left. And peek a little bit more over. Leave space for somebody go around you. Of course. Don't block the whole lane and make us now sit, sit, sit, sit.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And then the light turns red. that's when I just honk the horn at the person immediately. Immediately. I just sat behind you. You did not leave enough space behind me to cover you. And then they make the left. Like as the light turns red, they finally make their left because like they have their lane.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But I'm stuck sitting at the light. And so are the 14 other cars behind me. All you have to do is creep a little bit over more with your car into that middleish area, that little like whatever zone you want to call it, which there is space and let a little bit of space for somebody to pass you around the right. Technically, at least selfish move. That's fine. So is speeding. So is speeding. I think in South Florida, there are very few roads like that.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We have a left term lane almost everywhere. Yeah. A lot of year. Oh, what have we got? What do we got? Got a screenshot coming? Never mind. I was picking up something AI was. Yes. I don't ever have that face on, but yeah, I will block you from stealing my stuff. And if you are that person who hogs a lane, The problem with this picture is that the shirt fits too perfectly. Yeah, it's not tight enough. That is a great shirt. The collar, like Dan's got very sloppy bacon collars. What the heck?
Starting point is 01:00:44 I don't know a sloppy. Well, those things are crash happening behind him also. Like, that guy is not in the right lane. Dan's like, I'm not letting you in this lady cause an accident. He did. He did cause an accident. All right, everybody. That's it for today's show.
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