Fantasy Football Today - Revealing Stats, Fantasy Jeopardy, Fantasy Cops (08/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  We've got big news (1:34) on Cooper Kupp and potentially big news on Ezekiel Elliott to start the show and then we'll go through some Fantasy stats that you need to know before your draft. We've got stats on Tua Tagovailoa (10:04), Jared Goff (12:05), Aaron Jones (15:15) and Najee Harris (17:24). Harris in particular is a controversial player ... On to some wide receiver stats on Chris Olave (27:15), Christian Watson (29:10), Keenan Allen (31:40) and Stefon Diggs (32:55). All of these guys might be underrated! And we finish with Fantasy Jeopardy (35:31), more news items (45:50) and Fantasy Cops (49:30) to settle your league disputes! ... Your emails at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It is a Wednesday, and for those of you veterans, you fantasy football today, you know, longtime fans, you know, yeah, not a Christmas movie. You know, Wednesdays are the fun days, especially during the season. Our most fun episode, in my opinion. I love the Wednesday shows. I'm loving Today's Show. We've got the fantasy cops dropping by to make some arrests, perhaps, in your fantasy leagues. And we've got fantasy Jeopardy a little bit later.

We've got some statistics that I feel like I'm running out of time to say and to get your analysis of because position previews start tomorrow. And we've got some news and notes as well as Cooper cup had an MRI on his hamstring and he's going to miss some time. Let's start with the big news. You heard Dave Heath is here as well.

Hello, Heath. Hi, Adam and Heath. You can see if you're watching him on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. It says subscribe to FFT dynasty. And that is great advice.

Fantasy football today, dynasty episodes. Every Tuesday, you can watch them live on YouTube or on demand on YouTube, or you can just listen to them in their own separate feed, Fantasy Football Today Dynasty. All right, the big news. The Raiders are open to restarting talks with Josh Jacobs

to get him to rejoin the team. That's not the big news. Well, that's about Josh Jacobs or in general? In general. Well, okay. There are more items cooper cup is that the big news that's the big news cooper cup had an mri on his hamstring and what's what do we know now dave richard we don't know if it's a minor tweak and he's going to miss

like a week of practice or if it's more severe than that he was apparently in a red zone drill and came up a little bit lame and they didn't, you know, it was a late afternoon practice in Los Angeles. They didn't have an update beyond that. We don't have an update as of now, other than he's getting an MRI.

That's not a great thing. We'll see what happens, but this might put the chill on him as a top five overall pick and full and half PPR for the next week or so, you can gamble with this and get them in late round one. That would be awesome to buy the dip if it's not a serious hamstring injury. If it is a serious hamstring injury, this might really crush the fortunes of a lot of Rams players.

Do we buy the dip, Heath? If you're drafting today, Cooper Cup, remember, we're five plus weeks away from the start of the season. I would say that if the... I don't know what the dip is. If the dip's into round two, I think you have to buy it. Absolutely. I would also

say that my Bakeburger Dynasty League team is obviously cursed. I drafted Jonathan Taylor in round two and Cooper Cupp in round three. So much for win now, win never. Oh, no. Yeah, I think it would be easy to overreact to

this news, but luckily nobody's drafting today. The way I'm going to deal with it is... Hold on. I've got somebody who's literally came up to me yesterday and said, my draft is Wednesday night. Can't wait. Going to be awesome. I was like, really? It's going to be awesome. You're drafting before there's any preseason games or, you know, five weeks before the season started.

This is one of those things where if you're weighing between Bijan and Cooper, let's say you might take Bijan because he's healthier. Now you might take Kelsey over Cooper cup right now because Kelsey is healthier. Now you might take Tyreek over Cooper cup because he's healthier now. You might take Kelsey over Cooper cup right now because Kelsey's healthier. Now you might take Tyreek over Cooper cup because he's healthier. Now we just don't know the information. What if it comes out at like four o'clock today on Wednesday and Cooper cup is fine. And he shoots right back up to being a top five pick. I will say don't, don't push Kelsey ahead of him. Cause that was my fourth round pick in the Dynasty thing to start up. That's coming next. Is it too soon to tank?

A week after, while you're still drafting your team, you're going to tank. What Adam said about the overreacting to the Cooper Cup news. I would suspect before the weekend's over, we're going to get some sort of timetable. It's a grade one, it's a grade two. I'm going to be more prone to overreacting if week one is in doubt. If they act like we're giving him a week off, I'm not going to react at all.

If it's two weeks, I'm probably not going to react at all. If they're talking about a month, then I'm going to overreact. All right, so Adam Schefter tweeted, Cooper Cup underwent an MRI on his hamstring and while the team will be very cautious with him, one source said he potentially could be back

for scrimmages in a few weeks. Fine. Okay. So let's just leave it at that and we'll keep you updated. And for the record, I don't think we knew about this. I mean, I didn't know about it last night

at eight o'clock when we did our mock draft, and it was a half PPR mock draft. He was wide receiver four, and he fell to eighth overall to Dave behind McCaffrey, Mahomes, which was a surprise pick, Bijan, Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Tyreek Hill, Austin Eckler, and then Cooper Cup.

Next news item here, Jerry Jones has not ruled out re-signing Ezekiel Elliott. He said they were going to read the tea leaves. And Tony Pollard last night A-plus with Cup and Pollard in the first two rounds. If they sign Ezekiel Elliott, would the fifth pick of round two be too early for Tony Pollard Heath? A little. I would probably have him at the 2-3 turn.

Dave? I'd have him before the 2-3 turn, but after where I got him. So, mid to late round one, let's call it like between 16th and 22nd overall in PPR and pretty much in non-PPR. He wouldn't be a slam dunk first round pick. If there's no Zeke, if things stay the way they are in Dallas, in my mind, Tony Pollard's a first round pick. Okay. Heath, you didn't agree with that when i asked you a couple months ago do you agree with

that now i have him 13th right now it's possible that cooper cup's going to move behind him in the next couple of days but no i i mean i think right now he's at the one two turn i still think that there's i i still remember that thing they said um what was it, Dave? Week five or week six of last year. If we're going to give Tony Pollard 15 to 20 carries a game, we don't want him as involved in the passing game. We don't want to give him 15 to 20 carries a game because we do want him involved in the passing game. I think if he becomes the feature lead back, it's more likely that somebody else, maybe Deuce Vaughn, is handling a larger percentage of the passing downs work than what happened last year? I think if they're making him the feature back, it makes sense for them to get somebody else involved. But I think the high value touches,

certainly the high value carries will fall into Pollard's lap. And if the difference in Pollard's year from last year to this year is the addition of 10 touchdowns. Everybody will go nuts. I'll take a dip in receptions if it means a jump in touchdowns for Pollard, who, by the way, isn't terrible in short yardage goal line over the course of his career. Okay, I'll just give you one more stat here, and then we'll move on. So Ezekiel Elliott missed two games midseason. Pollard was awesome in those games, 115 or more rushing yards in both games. After that, he played eight more games with Zeke, not including the San Francisco game in the playoffs

when he broke his ankle, but including one playoff game, the Tampa Bay game. In those eight games, Cowboys went 7-1. They were the highest scoring team in football, I think. They averaged 32.5 points per game, which over a full season would have been the highest scoring team in football, I think. They averaged 32.5 points per game, which over a full season would have been the highest scoring team in football. Zeke actually had more carries than Tony Pollard, but here's what

Pollard was on pace for in those eight games after Zeke returned. Only 223 carries, but 57 catches. 1,513 total yards, 57 catches, 9 touchdowns total yards, 57 catches, nine touchdowns.

It's not great, but that's what he was with, with Zeke actually having more carries than him. What's the total touches there? 223 plus 57. So that would be 280. Okay. I've got him projected right now for 253 plus 42.

So 295. So 15 more touches than that. All right. Hey, big day tomorrow. The Fantasy Football Today Open. Your chance to get in those leagues, which I think we're looking at an evening. You know what?

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Over the past seven seasons there have been nine quarterbacks who have produced two top 12 PPR wide receivers they finished as QB 1, 3, 7, 3, 12, 4, 11, 3, and 14 so five of the nine finished top

four, six of the nine finished top seven and one who didn't was Tua last year but he only played 13 games finished top four. Six of the nine finished top seven. And one who didn't was Tua last year, but he only played 13 games. But you see where I'm going with this. That's total points, Adam, or per game? Total points. Two top 12 wide receivers.

Six of them finished as top... Six of the nine quarterbacks who had two top 12 wide receivers finished top seven. Four of them... Five of them finished top four. So that bodes well for Tua. Tua was 14th in total points

and 7th in fantasy points per game, six-point leagues. And that counts all the games that he left early, right? It does count the games he left early. I said it a month ago, and everybody thought I was crazy on Twitter, but I still think it's true. Tua plays 17 games.

He's going to be in the Mahomes-Allen Hurts conversation. He's going to be a top three or four quarterback. And he said yesterday that he's learned how to do a backward somersault and apparently those keep you from getting concussions. So he's probably going to play all 17 games. Who drafted him in our

draft yesterday? Was it you? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It was you in round eight. Oh. Yeah. By the way, the one guy who has

twice produced two top 12 PPR wide receivers and has not had good seasons or great fantasy seasons is Kirk Cousins. Yeah.

Yes. And I'll just, let me just, last thing, here are the five quarterbacks who have done it, two top 12 wide receivers and finish top four and then then you wonder like can I put to his name in this sentence

Rodgers Breeze Roethlisberger Russell Wilson Jalen Hurts yep yeah I think you could sure all right next up this one you know and I know we've talked about a lot of these in the past but we're in August we have listeners who haven't listened since December or whatever so if I'm a pre-teen And I know we've talked about a lot of these in the past, but we're in August. We have listeners who haven't listened since December or whatever. So if I'm repeating this, I'm sorry. People have forgotten the things that we said in June anyway. A hundred percent. Jared Goff led the NFL with eight completions to the one-yard line.

Only one of those completions was followed up by a Jared Goff touchdown pass. Six of them were Jamal Williams touchdown runs. One was a Jamal Williams fumble, and one was a touchdown pass. If four of those eight completions had been touchdown passes instead of just one, Goff would have been QB six for the season and QB eight per game. Side note, he also finished the season with 324 straight passes without an interception, the fifth longest streak in NFL history. That's Jared Goff. Go.

Big time sleeper quarterback candidate. We're excited about St. Brown. Laporta's a late round pick. Jamison Williams has gooey upside once he comes back after his dumb suspension. There's a late-round pick. Jamison Williams has gooey upside once he comes back after his dumb suspension. There's a lot of intrigue with this offense. Jameer Gibbs is there. And if Goff's offense and supporting cast is better than it was last year,

and we think that it is, then he's absolutely got a shot to finish as a top-12 fantasy quarterback. And you can draft him in any double-digit round you choose in one quarterback leagues. And I even think he's going to get you at least 25 points in week one against the Chiefs. So definitely a name to keep in mind. I will say that while that stat is true,

he also had his highest touchdown rate in the last four seasons and a touchdown rate that was 10% higher than his career norm. So I have a hard time saying he was unlucky in terms of touchdowns last year. But it suggests that there's room for even more scoring. And his career suggests there is room for regression. I don't like this negative stuff, Heath. Come on. I'm just saying. I actually don't like this negative stuff. He come on. I'm just saying, I actually, none of us are writing Jared golf at the top 10 quarterback. So you go, you agree with me. Oh, of course. But

I wonder, do you make him a priority pick in a two QB league? Where did he go? And we did a super flex draft. Where did he go in that? Because I'm assuming what Adam's saying is like if yes I think he's a bigger priority because him and cousins and Rogers and Gino are all a bigger priority in that League because their production is much more valuable in that format but we're basically saying if Jared Goff had had some of those turn into touchdowns he would have been Gino Smith last year right yeah basically something like that so why would we move him ahead of Geno Smith, who just added JS in? I don't really care that much about this stat. I know I gave it, but I've seen...

Well, no, I mean, look, sometimes stats don't matter. This one... It might be a David Montgomery stat. It just feels fluky to me and not super relevant. But all right, I don't know where he went in the Superflex draft because I'm having trouble pulling up the results, but I'm pretty sure I took him as my QB2. All right, I don't know where he went in the Superflex draft because I'm having trouble pulling up the results, but I'm pretty sure I took him as my QB2. All right, next stat.

Aaron Jones always gets his targets. Four straight seasons, finishing second on the team in targets. That is pretty remarkable. Aaron Jones, four straight seasons, finishing second on the team in targets. If he does that, you're probably going to like him in round four, I would think. Dave, what do you think about like him in round four, I would think. Dave, what do you think about Aaron Jones in the passing game? Oh, I think he'll still be close to second in targets.

I just think that there's enough now at wide receiver and maybe more of a demand on the quarterback to spread the ball around to put that in some jeopardy. But he's the one that's going to get the targets around to put that in some jeopardy but he's still he's the one that's going to get the targets in that backfield i don't think dylan's going to get him unless jones is inactive i'm still more concerned about jones time oh wow what a run we've had with this by the way right yeah every time that happens i assume it's me and somebody's going to make a joke about me having the best internet in South Florida. And so every time it's not me, I'm happy.

Hey, welcome back. And I'm flustered because it was me this time. Yeah. No, I'm still drafting Aaron Jones as a number two fantasy running back in large part because of the catches that I expect him to get he's one of probably eight six to eight running backs who based on all evidence we have are being drafted too low except for the fact that he's at the age where he could walk off the cliff at any moment um like it was just there's a half dozen of these guys maybe maybe more and jones is gonna he's already 29 or going to be 29? He's 28.

He will be 29. He's terrifying, but also probably a value if he doesn't go over the cliff. Right. You're not taking him in round two anymore. I like him in round three. Three, four. How many catches you give him, Heath? I've got him number myself.

Yeah, I've probably got him right or i'm gonna i'm gonna guess and then i'll tell you what the projection says i was gonna guess i have him at 45 to 50 this year that's why nope 59 i haven't met 48 oh all right it's a big difference all right well how about aaron jones or the next guy naji harris who would you rather have and here's a stat about naji harris last nine games of the season after their bye, he was the number seven running back per game in half PPR, number nine per game in full PPR. He averaged 4.1 yards per carry,

which was a lot better than what he did in the first half of the season. And he was on pace for 310 carries and only 32 touchdowns. Sorry, 32 catches in those last nine games. And even on a 32-catch pace, Najee Harris was a top 10 running back per game because he got so many carries and he scored enough touchdowns. So there's your stat on Harris. Heath, who would you rather have, Harris or Jones? And then talk about a very good second half for Najee.

Jones pretty easily for me. Najee is a bust for the second year in a row for me. Like it's funny the way we talk about yards per carry, because Joe Mixon is terrible and averages four yards, 4.1 yards per carry. But Najee Harris had a great second half and average 4.1. Wait a second. Wait a second.

No, that's just the way, but wait, wait, wait, wait, that is totally a slight to me. And I have to defend myself.

I'm just saying 4.1 was respectable compared to what he did in the first half of the year. And if you get 310 carries, which is what he was on pace for, then 4.1 yards per carry is fine, and he'll be great value in late round three. Mixon stunk last year. It wasn't very efficient. I'll take him gladly at the 2-3 turn. So I don't want to hear that, but go ahead, Heath. Go ahead.

Okay. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. No, you're right. I do think that it's most likely, you look at that stretch, he had one game in that great stretch, I believe. Last how many games of the season? Nine, after the bye.

Okay, so two games in that stretch with more than two catches. I think Jalen Warren is the passing down spec. I think one of the most difficult things to figure out is this Steelers offense pass rate versus run rate. Because for most of Matt Canada's time there, they've been a pretty high-end passing team. They went in the second half last year and went super run heavy and Najee was the beneficiary of that. Does that continue into this year or has Kenny's picket taken a step forward in his second year like most quarterbacks do and they because if they go back to the 650 pass attempt pace that they've been for most of Canada's time there, then I think nausea is a bust because Jalen Warren's going to do more in the passing game than Harris.

I, then I will follow up. I'm not, I don't want to come off like the big nausea Harris guy, but I would say I can make a case that they're going to be more run heavy because one of the things that nausea Harris had in the second half of the season that he didn't have in the first half was TJ Watt. But TJ Watt had been there all the rest of Matt Canada's time.

But that was Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, that was Ben Roethlisberger. No, it was Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges for one season. Okay, but last year they were a ground-and-pound team when their defense was so much better when TJ Watt was playing. And their per carry, 147 career targets at 4.7 yards per target, the history of guys who in their first two years in the league have 500 touches and are that bad, both in terms of rushing efficiency and receiving efficiency,

well, no running backs ever had more than top one, top 12 season for the rest of their career after two years that inefficient to start their career. Dave, I think you're the Najee guy. I'll take him one spot ahead of Jones in my running back rankings. And I buy into him being healthy. I remember it was before week 11 when Matt Canada said that he thought that Najee was back to full strength. All the metrics in his last nine games are significantly better than the first eight. One exception being his catches per game that went down.

And so you can be worried about those catches, but I think you can be optimistic that Najee can be efficient on his runs. I think the offensive line, that was one of the things that we really did not like about Najee last year. It's a terrible offensive line. It's better. They've moved it in the right direction. This is what we see all the time. That pendulum swings when one year it's a terrible offensive line, and then a season, maybe a season and a half later, that offensive line gets a lot better

provided that they stay healthy. Najee is healthy. I still think he's a good player. He averaged 15.2 PPR points per game in those last nine games. And that's not close to what he did as a rookie. As a rookie, he was 16.8, but I think that that's the range that we're looking for. The only thing Najee Harris has ever done good is have someone give him the ball. Like, I don't know why we compare what he did in those last nine games to what he did terribly in the first eight games and act like he was okay in the last nine. Let's just compare it to all other running backs. He was not good his rookie year. He just got a ton of touches. He was not good last year.

He just got a bunch of carries and He was not good last year. He just got a bunch of carries and scored some touchdowns from close range. I don't know why we have to think that Najee Harris is still good. He's never been good. Where do you have James Conner ranked again? Where do you have Alexander Madsen ranked again? Exactly. The point of this stat is look at the workload and if, and he, if he gets that workload and it was only a 32 catch pace. And even with that, with, you know, him losing catches, he was a top 10 running back because he was getting so many carries. That's the point. He is touchdown needy. He has 16 career games with 15 plus PPR points. Only five were without a touchdown. So 11 out of 16,

he needed the score to get over 15 PPR points. That's part of the deal with him. I think nausea is very much the type of back Adam that you have wisely warned us about in the past. If the best argument for him is he's going to get a bunch of touches and that's it. I completely agree. I,

again, I I'm defending Najee Harris, but I don't typically draft him. But if he falls far enough, I mean, I think I could talk myself into it, but he just... Like James Conner, we can draft in round six or seven. And I think they're basically... I don't know if I've been in a draft,

a 1QB draft where he's in round six or seven. Starting to really get some helium. So five now? Yeah. Would you rather have Najee in round four or he's in round six or seven. Starting to really get some helium. So five now? Yeah. Would you rather have Najee in round four or Conor in round five? Najee. Conor, but I think Najee's going in round three, isn't he?

Yeah, but let's say you could get some... Honestly, I don't know, but let's say he fell in round four because I wouldn't take him in round three, but... This is a tough thing. I don't really like a guy, but he falls an extra round. How much conviction do I have in not drafting him? Do I just keep passing him up

because I think he's going to stink? Or, all right, I got him around later. Now maybe I'll take a chance on him. I think that's an interesting dilemma that fantasy managers have sometimes. I always say that there's a price for everybody. Even players that you think are going to be bust, if they fall to a spot in a draft, you got to take them.

Now, the exception being if there's a player, like if you're really anti-Naji and you just don't see a path for him to be good for fantasy, then you just ignore him. But there should be very few of those players that you have off your draft board i i do have nausea in round four i'm not saying that i just wouldn't draft him i'm just saying and i'm i'm pulling it up now because his his adp and nfc drafts non-superflex since the start of July. Najee is going 31st overall. Yeah.

James Conner is going 76th overall. Yeah. I mean, it depends on the ADP. I mean, Najee Harris is going 26th here on draft sharks. I don't think he's going the fourth round anywhere. James Conner is the first pick of round six he's going the fourth round anywhere. James Connor is the first pick of round six or the second pick of round six.

But OK, so too early in round three. And he does not have a carry in his career of over 37 yards. And that is a big red flag for me. And we'll take a quick break. I got four more stats to throw at you. We'll start talking about some wide receivers after this.

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I enjoyed that Najee Harris discussion, but we have Fantasy Cops and Fantasy Jeopardy coming up. Next stat, Chris Olave versus Garrett Wilson. Chris Olave had a higher yards per catch, higher yards per target, yards per route run, fantasy points per target, fantasy points per game,

higher catch rate, 4% higher catch rate with a higher ADOT. He was better than Garrett Wilson in every single stat, including fantasy points and fantasy points per game. Dave, does that matter to you? Chris Olave versus Garrett Wilson in every single stat, including fantasy points and fantasy points per game. Dave, does that matter to you? Chris Olave versus Garrett Wilson? No, I still like Wilson more. I think he's just as capable, if not more capable than Olave of breaking plays.

I think he's got a better quarterback. I think he's got a more aggressive quarterback and a more aggressive offense in general. And I think he's got a shot at winning some targets in the end zone. I think he's got a shot at scoring when his team's in the red zone and certainly inside the five versus New Orleans, which seems to get conservative down there. Yeah. I mean, I've made this argument a bunch, but I just think the difference between what Garrett Wilson had last year and Aaron Rodgers is much, much bigger than the difference between Andy Dalton and Derek Carr, because Andy Dalton last year was better than Derek Carr. I just wish you would have stopped with that right before that prepositional phrase, right before that compound sentence. You know, you just said stop before you had to take that dig there.

Because you're right. I mean, the upgrade, if you just made it about the upgrade, that'd be one thing. But then you had to bring that. All right. But I will say, I'm going to make the case,

I think, tomorrow for Chris Olave. And the case is, the Saints obviously think Derek Carr is much better than Andy Dalton. They were willing to pay him whole bundles of money. And if that means that they are going to pass at a league average rate this year, and Michael Thomas is not Michael Thomas anymore, which it sounds like so far at camp, he has not been, then Chris Olave has a

path to be as good as anybody. All right, let me get to our next stat here. It's about Christian Watson. Very simple here. In the last eight games of the season, he was a top 10 wide receiver per game, number five per game in half PPR, number nine per game in full PPR. This is Christian Watson. He had a 22% target share. He had 30% of the team's yards and seven of their 13 touchdowns in those games. And he did that with Aaron Rodgers, but he did that with Rodgers, who averaged 200.5 passing yards per game. Hopefully Jordan Love can do that. So Christian Watson was top 10 per game in his last eight games with borderline bad quarterback play, quiet quarterback play, I'd say. Heath, your thoughts? I never know in these limited sample size situations how far to extrapolate that.

But I think Watson probably, it's fair to say, has similar upside to Olave, has similar upside to Garrett Wilson. His floor is much, much lower. I mean, there are some similarities between his production and the way he went about doing it and Chase Claypool in his rookie season. There was a lot of touchdown, a lot of plays that probably won't be repeated. But the sky's the limit. Just a much wider range of outcomes, in my opinion, for Watson than Olave or Wilson. I'm nervous about Jordan Love being his quarterback because I think that Love's accuracy past 15 yards could be a problem. And I think the Packers in general won't take a lot of downfield shots. But this is the type of receiver profile that you love because he's fast. He's big, got a huge catch radius.

We've already seen him. We've seen him make a catch and run touchdown on a target from Jordan love already. Yeah. He's he, he scored seven touchdowns in his last eight games. He averaged a touchdown. If you include his rushing touchdown or forget about the rushing touchdown, sorry.

One touchdown, every 4.4 catches sorry one touchdown every 4.4 catches a touchdown every 7.4 targets i think there's a chance to get average 7.4 targets per game this year wow so but you don't think there's a chance that he could score a touchdown every 7.4 targets i don't i don't think he can but i'm just saying especially if the a dot's down but he's got that playmaking ability that we just got done talking about with Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. He just doesn't have a quarterback that's nearly as established as what those receivers have.

Yeah. Our next stat here, very simple. Keenan Allen has been top 13 per game in PPR in six straight seasons. Yeah. Every time I want to move him down, I think about that stat and how consistent he's been and how good this offense is supposed to be and how it looks like it's going to be in LA. And I can't do it.

I can't move him down. I still look at him in that round four range. The only, I mean, obviously the age, what, 31 now? Yeah, just, 31 now? Yeah, just turned 31 in April. That's a big concern. And then the other thing is like all we're hearing is Keenan Allen or is that the Chargers are going to throw the ball downfield. They're not going to dink and dunk like they have in the past.

And, I mean, Keenan Allen for four of the last five years has had an ADOT between 7.2 and 8.6 and so does does he turn into a downfield wide receiver or does that mean a lower target share for him all right and then the last one is uh Stefan Diggs and really Josh Allen as well the first eight games before Josh Allen's elbow injury Allen was on on pace for 5,100 yards and 40 touchdowns, just passing. And Stephon Diggs was on pace for 128 catches, 1,821 yards, and 15 touchdowns.

It was like 23 PPR points per game. And that's basically Justin Jefferson's season with seven more touchdown catches. So that was before the Allen elbow injury. And then everything was just much, much worse after and not bad, but much, much worse after the elbow injury. So Dave, how much do you factor that in? I mean, they're already first and second or first and third round picks, but how much does that matter? Because you're looking at potentially a guy that could be wide receiver one if Allen is

throwing as much and as well as he did before the injury. That's why he's my pick in round one after Jefferson, in some order, Jefferson, Chase, Kupp, McCaffrey, Eckler, Bijan, Kelsey, and Tyreek are off the board. I think he's got the upside to match up with those guys. I think he's the next best player, regardless of position, after the mega elite type guys. And he should be considered a mega elite type guy. So happy to take him.

He's basically my target when I'm picking after like eighth overall in my drafts. I think two of the most interesting things to watch this year kind of relate to this and in Buffalo. And it's not just the most interesting things in Buffalo to watch, but the most interesting things in the NFL to watch. And it's like Diggs demand of I want all of the targets versus what Alan and the bills have been talking about. And the Dalton Kincaid pick suggests they would like to spread the ball around a little bit more. And then like we just talked about Alan,

when healthy versus Alan, when not healthy, is he going to do a better job of keeping himself healthy this year? Has this, does he grow into more of a pocket passer this year, or does he continue on the path that he's on? All right. His career high is 4,544 yards.

That was in 16 games. That was 284 yards per game back in 2020. Maybe he could be a 4,800-yard pass or something like that. And then maybe we won't have to worry too much about the other guys, Heath. I would much prefer, from a long-term standpoint, to see him at 4,800 yards passing and 400 yards

rushing, as opposed to 4,400 and 800. And I think one of the most interesting things to watch this year is Fantasy Jeopardy. Here we go, baby. Can somebody beat Heath? He seems to win every game we ever do. It is Fantasy Jeopardy.

We have three categories. No Final Jeopardy. No, unless there's a tie. I'll think of something. No Final Jeopardy. No, what's it called? Daily Doubles. No incorrect, no penalties for incorrect guesses.

Three categories with 200 400 and 600 answers for each one the categories are quarterbacks pass catchers and to make things a little bit tilted toward dave famous bears so quarterbacks pass catchers and famous bears dave grew up i did lose for the first time ever on Front Yard Fantasy yesterday. I was going for the record of five wins without a loss, and I lost, so maybe I will lose here too. How have you been on five times

and they have not invited me on once? Because they're smart. Should I ask Joey last night? I kind of did, like suddenly. All right, here we go. Fantasy Jeopardy time. Quarterbacks, pass catchers, or famous bears for two, four, or $600? You have to say your name to buzz in.

Heath, the board is yours as the defending champion. Famous bears for $600. All right. A bear mauled Leonardo DiCaprio in this 2015 motion picture. Oh, I know this one. I've watched this one. It's the one where he was like an army general?

No, it's a Western. He may have been a retired army general, but he's helping these people navigate through the wilderness. Heath. Yeah, Heath. Revenant. What is Revenant?

All right, I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Yeah, what is the Revenant? You Revenant? All right, I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Yeah. What is the Revenant? You got to answer it in a formal question. I'm going to put $600 for Heath. All right. Board is yours.

Famous Bears for $400. I like how Heath had no idea and then all of a sudden he knew. I was just like, I'm sitting here. I watched the movie. It's a terrible scene all right it's really hard to watch yeah it really is uh all right 400 famous bears wherever he wanders wherever he roams this bear is always looking for the bear necessities dave who is uh who is dave yeah uh i was gonna say winnie the pooh but i don't think that's it heath

i didn't even give a guess it doesn't matter i have no chance who is baloo hey i did not think you were gonna get that all right he is up a thousand to nothing already google's beating me a thousand to nothing no no my arms are crossed. Heath, the board is yours. No one can tell. Heath? Famous Bears for 200. All right, everybody be ready here. This one's easy. This bear is smarter than the average bear.

Dave. Who is Dave? Who is Yogi Bear? Yogi Bear, yes. Sorry. I meant to say Dave. I keep saying, who is Dave? Who is Dave?

All right, Dave. I don't know if I'm smarter than an average bear. Quarterogi Bear, yes. Sorry. I meant to say Dave. I keep saying, who is Dave? Who is Dave? I don't know if I'm smarter than an average bear. Quarterbacks and pass catchers. I'll take quarterbacks for 200, Alex. Oh, people in the chat, don't give up. That's not cool. All right, quarterbacks for what? 200, please.

He was the number six quarterback in fantasy with his lowest touchdown rate in six seasons. Is that total points or per game? Total points. Dave. Dave. Who is Kirk Cousins? Hey, he's back in the game, folks. 1,400, he leads.

Kirk Cousins, lowest touchdown rate in six seasons, but he was the number six QB. I think it was ninth per game. It was catches that made Justin Jefferson such a beast last year. I'll take QBs for 400 please. This QB who once played for both Wait a second.

I have to fact check this real quick. Hold on. Oh my gosh. Okay. This QB who once played for both New York teams, had the lowest off-target percentage in the NFL. Heath. Dave. Heath.

Who is Geno Smith. Correct. 400 to Heath. All right, we got QBs for 600. We have all the pass catchers. Let's go QB for 600. Three quarterbacks had multiple rushing touchdowns of 18 or more yards.

Justin Fields, Jalen Hurts, and this fellow. Three quarterbacks had multiple rushing touchdowns of... Dave. Who is Josh Allen? Multiple rushing... Heath. Heath. Who is Daniel Jones?

Oh, Heath. He crushed it. I was hoping he would get that, you know. Heath. Who is Daniel Jones? Oh, Heath. Crushing it. I was hoping you would get that. The Daniel Jones thing. I just assumed we hadn't said Daniel Jones in the show yet, so it was time to say Daniel Jones. All right, pass catchers.

The score is a lot to a little. 400 for Dave. 2,000 for Heath. So I can't win. Correct. All right, I'm going to go get a sandwich. $400 for Dave. $2,000 for Heath. So I can't win. Correct. Alright, I'm going to go get a sandwich. No, come back. Hey, hey, hey, come on. I got to finish Jeopardy. Get back here, Dave.

Come on, Dave. Pass catchers. Alright, Schaefer, you're in. Oh, gross. We are looking live at Dave's nostrils. Dave, come on. This is not good radio. All right, here we go.

There we go. Pass catchers for 200. The only thing that would have been funnier is if I actually came back with a sandwich. He had the fourth most targets among tight ends behind Kelsey, Hawkinson, and Andrews. Heath. Heath. Who is Tyler Higbee.kinson, and Andrews? Heath. Heath.

Who is Tyler Higby? My goodness, Heath is crushing it today. Alright, among... For 400. Among the 10... Sorry. Among the top 10 wide receivers in PPR, this wide receiver had by far the lowest target

share. Just 20.8% in 17 games. Let me set this up a little bit from a fantasy angle. Thank you. When you look at the top 10 wide receivers in PPR fantasy points, nine of them are top 12 in target share. There's a huge and the other one is I think 18th

day. I have a guess. Yeah. Who is Devante Smith? This guy had 11 games out of 17 with six or fewer targets. Wow. So this is obviously a guy who scored games out of 17 with six or fewer targets. Wow. So this is obviously a guy who scored a bunch of touchdowns last year, and I do not remember a guy who...

I will just throw this out there. Heath. Yeah. Who is Jalen Waddell? It is your day, Heath Cummings. He didn't even score that many touchdowns. But the yards, I mean, 18.1 yards per catch. Eight touchdowns, but 1,356 yards.

Only 117 targets in 17 games for Jalen Waddell. All right, and the last one. I'm going to make this one for $4,000. So, Dave, you're back in the game. Among wide receivers with 50 or more targets rookies George Pickens, Chris Olave, Christian Watson

and Jahan Dotson were all top 7 in this category names again please George Pickens, Chris Olave, Christian Watson and Jahan Dotson were all top 7 in this category I guess Chris Olave, Christian Watson, and Jahan Dotson were all top seven in this category. I guess.

Dave. Dave. What is A-Dot? Hey, Dave wins. No, Dave, that's that one right. Good job, Dave. But Heath is the winner. And you guys got almost every single one right.

That was. Good job on the clues. I didn't think you. What was the one you guys got wrong? Did you get any wrong? We struggled with the receiver with the 20% target share, but Heath got it. I think you got everything right.

The Revenant was a little iffy. Well, Heath is the one that got most of it right. Good job, guys. Good job. All right, we got a... He's the better Googler. A break, some quick news items, and the fantasy cops after this. We are back to finish up our Wednesday edition of Fantasy Football today.

All I can tell you about the FFT Open is that it will be sometime tomorrow evening, maybe 6, 7 p.m. Eastern, something like that, where we'll be posting these spots, these available spots, 88 of them. I love that we're doing this because there are people out there that are like, could beat that guy in fantasy ed what does he play in my league well now here's somebody's chance to play against one of us whichever analyst you think you're better than put your put your donation where your mouth is and let's see how good you are there it is and we by the way are eligible to win like we're not... Oh, yeah. We're competing. All right.

Aaron Rodgers wants to play a few more seasons. So, Heath, did you move him up your dynasty rankings? I did not. I know that it's really hard to not just believe everything that Aaron Rodgers says. But I'm going to go ahead and hold off on that one. And I'm going to leave him around QB 22 or so. I think he's clearly behind. I still would rather have Cousins or Geno or Goff.

Cincinnati running back Travion. Oh, I never mentioned the Calvin Ridley thing. Dave, thank you for tweeting that at me. Calvin Ridley hurt his toe, so we're just going to keep an eye on him. He's limited in practice, though, so at least he's not sidelined yet. Cincinnati running back Travion Williams

was carted off with an ankle injury. Williams averaged five yards per carry last year. Hits six carries for 30 yards. He was one of my favorite prospects when he came out, and then he went to Cincinnati and never got a shot to play regularly.

It just makes Chase Brown a little bit more appealing as a late round pick. Possible low rent handcuff for Joe Mixon. Here's what ESPN's Dan Graziano said on the Seahawks running backs. Assuming Walker and Charbonnet get healthy in time for the season, the sense I get is A, Walker would still be the starter and get the bulk of the work, and B, Charbonnet would also have a role, perhaps in the two-minute or four-minute offense. People I spoke to here

believe they complement each other well, and the team anticipates using them in tandem to some extent. But if Charbonnet has to miss extended time in camp, just the fact that he's a rookie could change the Seahawks' plan if they determine he hasn't had

enough development time. Several people I talked to in Seattle mentioned how great an offseason Walker had, and they foresee improvement from him in 2023. Okay, we'll let that stand. And then Roshon Johnson mispracticed with an injury. Hopefully nothing serious. And then last news item here, Jeremy Fowler from ESPN on Rashad White. Not only will White get a heavy workload rushing,

but the Bucs have been expanding his route tree, believing he can inflict damage as a receiver. They see star potential here, a smooth do-it-all option. What do you think? He's in that same bucket as all the other running backs that we talk about that need volume to do well. But if they're going to use him more in the passing game, I don't think it'll ever be to the level that we saw Bucks running backs get targets last year. But even if it's, Baker's been right around 20% target share to his running backs

over his career. He was last year. There's some potential there for rashad white yeah um i did see them also talking about the quarterback competition and saying it's actually gotten closer since the start of camp which is a praise of kyle trask not baker mayfield i have had trask projected as starting more games than mayfield and i am hopeful that trask will start week one that would be an upgrade for godwin and evans for me i've seen trask play i would be more scared if he's starting than baker but i'm kind of scared about both of them uh would you take rashad White or Cameron Akers. I have White higher. Yeah, those two, I really, it's really close, but I'd take White.

I wonder if his name is Cameron. I just made that up, but I have no reason to believe that it's Cameron. Could just be Cam. Cameron Fry Akers. Could be Cam Rick. Could be be Cam. Cameron Frye-Akers. Could be Cam Rick. Could be Cam Rick. All right. Well, this sounds like something for the fantasy cops.

If you've got a league dispute, a commissioner problem, a bad trade that's causing a league uproar, send an email to fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, the letter I, and put fantasy cops in the subject line all right we have not done a lot of fantasy cops for 14 year olds but we might have to put someone in juvie let's take a listen this one is from eric and eric says i was listening to your podcast in the car with my son during a fantasy cop segment and he asked if I would write in his story from last year. He wanted your take on his situation.

Last year was his second year playing with his friends on a different site. That site says you have to be 16 to sign up and play fantasy sports, but they never actually ask for age when you sign up. He played both fantasy football and baseball the first year with no issues, and this year went smooth until December. His mother took him on a trip to Florida to go to some theme parks just before Christmas. I guess in order to use the park apps,

he had to sign up with his age and email, the same email he used for fantasy football. This evidently linked his age, 14, to his email, and then to all their sites and apps which used that email. His access to the team promptly ended. Not great during what was the last week of the regular season for them and him needing a win and another team's loss to make the playoffs. Unable to make ad drops or change his roster,

I called tech support for him and asked what could be done. The two options they told me were have the commissioner set his lineup for him or the commissioner could add the dad as the co-manager and the dad could do, Eric could do all the roster management. This info was told to the commissioner

who was also 14 at the time. He said it was too complicated and he couldn't figure out how to do it. So my son's team would remain as is. Interestingly enough, my son was playing the commissioner that week and he also needed a win to make the playoffs. My son ended up losing,

but some almost instant karma, the commissioner got destroyed in week one of the playoffs. My son already decided not to play with them again next year over this and is debating starting his own league and trying to steal some of the managers, which son already decided not to play with them again next year over this and is debating starting his own league and trying to steal

some of the managers, which I think is a great idea, but he still wanted your take on if you really think the commissioner couldn't figure it out or did he feign ignorance in hopes of an easier chance

at a win in the playoffs, which is my guess. I know that was a lot, but that was really funny. It's a funny story. The commissioner should have done one of the two options that the customer service representative suggested and been a fair commissioner, and he wasn't. And so the commissioner should be kicked out of the league, or everybody should leave the commissioner and join the 14-year-old's new league.

Which should be, let's be honest here, it should be on a different platform. Yeah, come on over to CBS. It should probably just have it be a father-son league, and so everything's legit, and so you don't have to worry about things like this happening. That would absolutely be wonderful.

I can help them set up if they come to CBS. Email me. Thank you, Eric. Next email is from Dan Flashes, which hopefully is not something you're going to see with Schneier on the podcast or anything like that. I mean, we almost do every time he sits down for a show.

He says, Dear Chunky, Crashmore, and Harley Jarvis. I feel like Heath would know this. Nope. Heath knows everything. I have absolutely no... Oh, this is I think you should leave? Okay, I should have known that.

All right. My 12-team Superflex tight end premium Dynasty League is in crisis because of a trade that went through recently. And this is... I read these because all the people out there, the Heaths of the world, the Dans of the world, that say, never veto, never veto. of a trade that went through recently. And this is, I read these because all the people out there, the Heaths of the world, the Dans of the world, that say, you never veto, never veto.

I'm going to see if you're really willing to stick to that. Team A got Patrick Mahomes. Team B got Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields, Mark Andrews, DJ Moore, a 2025 first, a 2025 second, and a 2026 first. For Patrick Moves. Wow. Lamar Jackson who? Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields, Mark Andrews,

tight end premium, DJ Moore, two first round picks and a second round pick in the future. Okay. Immediately there was uproar, but I didn't get to it until the next day when a manager said they would back out if that trade was not vetoed. A few other members also voiced concern. I saw the trade and... Sorry. Wow. Wow. Very old school, Dave. I saw the trade and I instantly reacted telling Team B that I couldn't in good faith let that trade go through. Well, now said Team B manager is claiming that he will quit

if the trade isn't allowed to stand, stating that it is a slippery slope to veto. Team A is fine with the trade, the one who gave up all that stuff for Mahomes, stating he got a little too buzzed watching the quarterback show on Netflix. Needless to say, I need help. I'm thinking this type of trade throws off the axis of the league, but I have both sides claiming they would leave between either decision. Is there a happy medium? What say you, fantasy cops? What? Well, I would like to know, like, what was the prior precedent? What was the rule about vetoes in the league? Okay, we don't know that. Let's just say there's never been anything like this trade before. There's never been a veto before is what you're saying? No, there's never been one that's caused, that's, it's because there's never been anything like this trade before. There's never been a veto before is what you're saying? No, there's never been one that's caused – it's because people say –

There's never been a trade to suggest a veto. Has there ever been a veto? I have no idea. Let's say no. Then you should let the guy leave if he wants to leave. There's no vetoes in this league. It's not just this one guy who's leaving. It's multiple people who are saying I'm going to leave.

Multiple people expressed concern. One guy said he was leaving. Okay. This trade should be vetoed immediately. You're letting someone go from the league one way or the other. It's either the guy who made a great trade or the crybaby. This trade. I would let the crybaby go.

I don't think he's a crybaby at all. I think he's perfectly within his right to be pissed off about this ridiculous trade, which again, for those of you who find that. I've been in this stupid Baked Burger Dynasty League startup where I make really fair and sometimes even a little bit extra trade offers to Dan and Jamie. And they won't make a trade unless they can bully Thomas or some other manager in the league into giving them 200% value. It makes me upset too. It's bothered me. It's given me a little heartburn.

This is 800% value. What? This is 800% value. Yeah. You know what? If you think that it's such a terrible trade that you must veto it then fine yeah kick the guys out of the league for collusion but otherwise that's oh oh boy all right that's heath stand that's fine i totally disagree i would veto this trade it is a ridiculous trade there is not there

is nothing sensible about this trade and it does throw off the league balance and i don't blame people for being angry and you want people to have fun in fantasy. You don't want them to be angry about terrible trades and make them bitter and make them hate the league. So veto it, and I guarantee you Team B is not going to leave. He's going to get upset about it, but he's not going to leave when you veto his trade. Dave, what do you think? Break the tie.

I would tell them to go back to the drawing board and try and make a deal that would make everybody else in the league feel a little more comfortable. And if they can't do it or if they both come back and they say, no, this is really the trade that we want to make, then I'm not vetoing it. I'm letting it go. I'm not going to tell. We're all grown adults here. We're all 14 years old or older. Let's act like adults.

And if they're going to make this move, then that's fine. And if others are going to cry about it and leave the league, then I'll live with that. But before I get to that point, I want them to go back to the drawing board and see if they can make a trade that would be more acceptable. The trade was acceptable. Now, I do think... The trade was not acceptable. It was obviously acceptable to both teams. That's why the trade got made. I almost wonder... Sorry to cut you off, Heath.

I almost wonder if other managers should get in the bidding for Mahomes as well. I would... That would really make me... That would really, really make me unhappy if that happened. But I will add one little caveat. And this has already been said that it didn't happen, so it doesn't apply to the situation. If the guy who got buzzed and made the trade woke up the next morning and this whole uproar was happening and he said, dude, it was my 40th birthday. I had too many drinks.

Can we please undo the trade? Then I would agree with undoing it. Because you can't sign a contract when you're under the influence. Okay. All right. Well, good stuff. Fun show. And I will see you.

Somebody says in the chat that I missed the Fantasy Cops ditty. Well, I played it like three times, but we will see you tomorrow, everybody, with our quarterbacks preview. Yeah. It's August. It's draft time. Let's go. And we've got a live mock draft. Dave, what time

is the auction live stream on Thursday? 1 p.m. Eastern time. All-star mock auction. Excellent. All right. We'll see you then. You will see people from other sites, other analysts sharing their ideas on how to go about auction drafts. You'll love it. Later, everybody.