Fantasy Football Today - 🚨Robinson Tagged; Golladay, Carson and Henry are NOT! (03/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

With Allen Robinson back in Chicago and Kenny Golladay likely on the move, who will end up higher in the rankings? Which Lions WRs are we interested in? We'll also touch on Hunter Henry and Chris Cars...on and which one has the better chance of having a great season. Subscribe to the FFT in 5 podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, or wherever you listen to FFT. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @CTowersCBS, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bonus podcast number three. You're only getting one and a half more for the next week or so. It's probably not. We're going to go over that likely by the end of the week. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg here. We talked about Dak. We talked about Godwin. Now we get to talk about four different players in one fancy bonus pod.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Alan Robinson, franchise tagged by the Bears. Meanwhile, Kenny Galladay, Hunter Henry, and Chris Carson will not be franchise tagged. Jamie, what's the most interesting news item of these four? Oh, Galladay by far. I mean, we thought he was going to get the franchise tag and be miserable with Jared Goff. And now he gets the chance to be a free man and go sign wherever he wants. And you've already seen some reports that the Dolphins are going to make a run in Kenny Galladay, that the Colts may make a run in Kenny Galladay. There's some teams that are going to be into Jacksonville, make a run in Kenny Galladay potentially as well. It's going to be fun to
Starting point is 00:00:51 see where he ends up because he could really change the dynamic of a fantasy passing attack, hopefully for the better. And it would be fun to see. Teams that currently, this is just right now, as we're talking, have $20 million in salary cap space and have a wide receiver need. Jacksonville, Miami, Indianapolis, the Jets, the Patriots, Washington. Interesting destinations. I'm not sure if there's one that stands out as the one that we would absolutely positively love him to have. I'm kind of partial to Jacksonville. On the other end of those passes from Trevor Lawrence, that sounds pretty good to have. I'm kind of partial to Jacksonville. On the other end of those passes from Trevor Lawrence, that sounds pretty good to me.
Starting point is 00:01:28 What do you think of that list? It's a fun list. It's an okay list. What do you think, Jamie, if you had to pick one? I mean, the Jets, of course. Let me say the Colts. I feel like... Yeah, the Colts would be the best. This is the type of wide receiver
Starting point is 00:01:45 that Carson Wentz is kind of used to. Sure, but doesn't he already have somebody like that? Injury prone and... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Downfield, not going to be a ton of catches, but Wentz likes to throw it downfield, or at least so far in his career. He's loved big targets.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Okay, so which destination? Allen Robinson back with the Bears. We don't know who's going. I've also seen the Bengals, too, which would be really fun. Oh, that'd be terrible. No. Dude, it'd be great for Burrow. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:02:17 That'd be terrible. They got Boyd and Higgins. You want Gallaudet to go there? Yeah, of course. Make Joe Burrow better. Yeah, it's all about Burrow. Yeah, that's a team that loves to spend. So, what
Starting point is 00:02:29 destination would get Kenny Galladay ahead of Allen Robinson in your rankings? If he goes somewhere with Sean Watson or Russell Wilson? There you go. Well put. Okay. So, not a lot. Well, let's talk about Alan Robinson.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And back with the Bears, four seasons in his career with between 151 and 154 targets. That is a ton. Third most targets in football last year. And he was wide receiver 13 per game in PPR. Needs more touchdowns. Needs a better quarterback.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Dave, are you happy about this? I'm at the point with Robinson where I almost don't care how bad his quarterback is. I count on him to come through because he's been pretty consistently at least a top 15 fantasy receiver with Gus into the top five.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And I think that he can continue to be that with a mediocre quarterback with Nick Foles as his quarterback. But if they can somehow, some way upgrade or somehow, some way trade him to a team that can use an upgrade at wide receiver and has a great quarterback, then we could be talking about Alan Robinson as one of the best fantasy receivers that you could draft. There's still obviously the potential of Russell Wilson, which as Peter King said Monday in his column to pipe dream, obviously Deshaun Watson's potential there, but it seems unlikely as well. The thing that I think can maybe help Robinson slightly would be if they get one of the two veteran quarterbacks that are out there. Ryan Fitzpatrick would be amazing because you know, he would just throw at him all
Starting point is 00:04:10 day. Yeah. If that's something they would consider, but you're hearing a lot of out of Smith to the bears, um, which would be an intriguing option because you know, that Smith is not going to necessarily challenge down the field, but he would probably lean on Robinson. Like he's leaned on, like lean on Logan Thomas and, um, to, to a bigger extent, um, his running backs. Now, obviously the bears have running backs that catch the ball with Tariq Cohen coming back healthy, but I think you can still see 150 targets for Robinson without Smith, just knowing what's there. Now that's not going to make this passing attack exciting. Ryan Fitzpatrick would, uh, but if it's foals and another veteran competing for it, then I think Robinson will still be okay. If it's a young guy that, you know, that they draft and
Starting point is 00:04:49 they move up to, you know, take somebody, then that's where I think Robinson may struggle. Let's say they, you know, move up and take, you know, Lance. That would be bad for Robinson, that type of quarterback who still has some room to grow. So let's say Alex Smith is the quarterback week one for the bears and Kenny Galladay goes to the Colts. Who's ranked higher for you guys? Who are they playing? Right.
Starting point is 00:05:15 For the full season. Not for week one. Oh, for the season. Yeah. You said week one. Well, I meant he's Alex Smith is the week one starter.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I presuming he wouldn't necessarily be the full 17. Yeah, I think I'm still going with Robinson. All right. Is this look? I don't know that you could pick two wide receivers that are both around the Bears that are more format dependent. Right. You know, like Gallaudet is such a non PPR guy and Robinson has become such a PPR guy. What if they're both on the Bears?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Then Alex Smith top five? No. I'm just kidding. No. So, hey, they could get both wide receivers. But Ryan Fitzpatrick would be, yes. They should get both wide receivers and Hunter Henry. All right, Hunter Henry's not going to get the franchise tag.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Chris Carson's not going to get the franchise tag. Jamie, right now, who are you more interested in in fantasy as they are nomads that don't have a team? Carson or Henry? Yeah. Carson. I mean, just because of the position he plays. I think we should go back to Detroit for a second though, because it seems likely that Kenny Galladay
Starting point is 00:06:18 is not resigning there. That's still a possibility. They did make the Tyrell Williams signing official today, but Quentin Cephas is somebody that Quentin Cephas is somebody that you should have on your radar with the late round pick. You know, there, there's, there's a chance that he is going to be right now, one of their top three receivers.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It'd be shocking if he's their number one, but he could be their number two. And, you know, just given the, the target potential there, this is a guy that should be somebody you're considering. and just given the target potential there, this is a guy that should be somebody you're considering, and I would take a look at your dynasty leagues just in case he got dropped at some point, and he's worth picking up now if you're allowed to make moves. Well, how about Tyrell Williams?
Starting point is 00:06:58 I mean, Tyrell Williams as well, but I think, again, you've kind of seen what Tyrell Williams is. He'll have some good moments. I don't know if Jared Goff is the type of quarterback that's going to enhance his play. But I think, again, you've kind of seen what Tyrell Williams is. He'll have some good moments. I don't know if Jared Goff is the type of quarterback that's going to enhance his play. So Williams is somebody that will have some good moments, a couple weeks where he can win you your fantasy league. But I think more times than not, he's going to be more of a disappointment. So this is the worst receiving core in the NFL right now, and it's not even close.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And TJ Hawkinson is now going to be the fourth tight end off the board, I think, in a lot of people's... Fourth or fifth? Well, I mean, fifth right now. He was fifth for me already, but I think I'm going to move him ahead of Mark Andrews, just looking at what the opportunity is. This is the scenario that we talk about all the time,
Starting point is 00:07:35 of where's the receiver? There isn't. So he's going to be the number one option for Jared Goff. And we've seen Goff put up some great numbers when his tight ends have been involved in the past, just hasn't been on a consistent basis. Yeah, Jamie, I don't know what Jared Goff did to you, but you really don't seem to think very highly of him.
Starting point is 00:07:56 This is a Jamie thing? He's just taking some shots on Jared Goff. Jared Goff has been very good for his wide receivers. I think Sean McVay has been very good for his wide receivers. I think Sean McVay has been very good for his wide receivers. And I think his wide receivers have been very good players. They have. That Tyrell Williams.
Starting point is 00:08:13 But I don't know that this is good for Gallaudet. I wouldn't have minded Gallaudet on Detroit. Certainly there are scenarios where he goes to a better spot. But it could be worse for him. I mean, you knew if he went back to Detroit and they didn't make any significant wide receiver additions,
Starting point is 00:08:31 Tyrell Williams does not count as that, you knew he was going to get a lot of targets. So I want to see him be the 1A somewhere. I mean, he still can. Yeah, he's still good, sure. Again, the teams that Dave rattled off for you, the Patriots, he'd be the one. The Jets, he'd be the one.
Starting point is 00:08:48 The Jaguars, he'd be the one. Now, obviously, those teams have varying degrees of who's the two. The Dolphins, he'd be the one. Colts? Colts, he'd be the one. Washington? He'd be the two.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Hmm. I might say he'd be the 1A in Washington. Okay, so let's talk about Hunter Henry and Chris Carson. More interested in Carson. You know, he plays running back. Who's got the better chance of having a great year? Great year. If either Henry or Carson have the chance.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Who's got the better chance? I'll say Carson. I think they're both kind of injury concern type of players. They've had their battles throughout the years of staying healthy, but Carson could still theoretically be in a position to be a lead back for a team. That would mean more yardage, more opportunities, more touchdown opportunities than Hunter Henry could find. You agree, Jamie? Yeah. I mean, the only difference would be is that if they're both great at their respective positions, you'd rather have Hunter Henry than Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah. I mean, Hunter Henry could conceivably be a top five tight end. I don't think Chris Carson is going to be a top five running back. Would you rather have a top five tight end or a top 12 running back? If it's a top five tight end, like a legit top five tight end, like he's pushing to be in the top three. Yes. Then I would rather have him tight end or a top 12 running back? If it's a top five tight end, like a legit top five tight end, like he's pushing to be in the top three? Yes. I would rather have him tight end. But, you know, Carson
Starting point is 00:10:11 he's got to go to get a feature job. I mean, he can still go back to Seattle and be the feature guy there. That's not out of the possibility. You know, I think that's one thing to keep in mind with these guys that don't get tagged. Doesn't mean that they're leaving their teams. Most likely they are, but it's not a guarantee that they are.
Starting point is 00:10:28 So, you know, it doesn't make sense for the Chargers per se to tag Hunter Henry for the second time and have to pay that cost as opposed to with the salary cap situation being what it is, work out a long-term deal or give him a big guaranteed deal just for this season alone. So, you know, I think we can still see Carson in Seattle, but if Carson goes to Atlanta, as we've talked about to the jets, to the dolphins, maybe Steelers, you know, teams that are going to lose running backs or have some holes Cardinals,
Starting point is 00:11:00 you know, he could end up still in a great situation, Pittsburgh, you know, the teams that we talked about that have needs at running back. You don't want to see him in Buffalo, for example. You don't want to see him where he's the head of a committee again. With the Chargers, if Hunter Henry is not back, you are talking about a team
Starting point is 00:11:18 that has a new coaching staff but was fifth in the NFL in pass attempts last year and only three pass attempts behind Kansas City, who was fifth in the NFL in pass attempts last year, and only three pass attempts behind Kansas City, who was third. So they were almost tied for third in pass attempts, and they just lost if Henry is in fact not going to be back. What if you take out week one when it was Tyrod Taylor, and you take out week 17 where Mahomes didn't play, then how does it work out? I don't know, but I would bet you that the
Starting point is 00:11:43 Chargers... I bet you the Chargers were ahead of the Chiefs in that regard. But Henry was number two on the team in targets last year. So there's opportunity if he's not back. Do you think he would have been second if Eckler played the whole year?
Starting point is 00:12:00 No, but he also missed two games, so I think it would have been really close. He missed two games, I think, for COVID at the end of the year. I agree with that. I also think that Joe Lombardi and his track record suggest that it's a good spot for a tight end. You saw him make use of Ebron back in the day in Detroit. He did his best with Ebron and other tight ends there.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Is that a good testimony, though? Well, listen, I'm just looking at usage. I'm not looking at success necessarily and he had a big slice of the reception chair there and he comes from new orleans and the saints have used tight ends frequently throughout the years i think tight end will be an important part of the chargers offense moving forward that already has been with herbert can i tell you this tough guy last year this is directed at Jamie, Austin Eckler averaged 6.5 targets per game.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Tough guy. Hunter Henry averaged 6.64 targets per game. Cool. Yeah, basically exactly the same. Slightly, slightly more. All right, well, we got the rest of the week to talk about this stuff. Well, I think, you know, again, just to look at along the lines of Quintus Cephas,
Starting point is 00:13:10 check to see if Donald Parham is available in your Dynasty League as well, because as of now, he's the only tight end on the roster. And as we saw in the brief XFL stint, he was pretty good. So there's a chance that he could, you know, be the guy there. I doubt it, but it wouldn't be surprising. but he's a guy that's going to have a lot of buzz. Um, now that this job could potentially be his, he's six foot eight. I mean, three of his 10 catches last year were touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And Mike Williams had 17 targets in the last two games of the season without Hunter Henry. Uh, what was that? What about his eight best games? I inside joke. I'll tell you all about that. Hunter Henry. What about his eight best games? What was that? What about his eight best games? Inside joke? I'll tell you all about that inside joke on Thursday. I'll probably forget by then, but it's not that funny. Anyway, so we'll talk to you throughout the week. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:13:55 We'll be back in an hour with another breaking news pod, I'm sure. Jamie and Dave, thank you guys very much. I'm Adam, and have a good one, everybody. Talk to you soon.

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