Fantasy Football Today - Rooks on the Rise | Re-ranking the top 24 rookies for dynasty with Dan Schneier

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Heath Cummings is joined by Dan Schneier to completely re-rank the rookies after a week of training camp. Intro (0:00) Can Malik Nabers overcome his situation in Year 1? (1:46) Does any other pass catcher on the Giants matter in Dynasty? (7:20) How do you envision the Giants running back room working out? (9:00) Re-Ranking 1-4 (11:40) Re-Ranking 5-9 (15:28) Re-Ranking 10-14 (23:47) Re-Ranking 15-16 (30:28) Re-Ranking 17-24 (36:26) Favorite players outside of top 24 (47:43) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, Dynasty. I am your host heath cummings i am joined once again by dan schneier dan it's been too long it's been so long you thought we were starting at 11 o'clock today i did go come in on the early start time the old start time so i had to readjust and talk to harry shout out harry just met him and he's like, look, we're doing 1130 these days. So came back on and I'm excited to be here as always, Heath. I love talking Dynasty football with you. It's so fun. I'm glad to be back on. And we're getting close to the point where we're about to see a lot of players jump up, jump up, redraft boards with a lot of these training camp clips floating around.

But I'm curious to see how it impacts dynasty because dynasty, I think dynasty managed to have a little bit more long-term approach on some of these things that aren't as easily swayed by the training camp clips, but it'll be interesting because there's obviously developed developments. And we'll talk about some of them today that are happening real stuff with the depth chart. And I think that's what the focus should be on. So listen, we love having Dan on any fantasy football today show um a vast amount of fantasy football knowledge but there are two things that dan really knows like it's

rookies and it's the giants and we're going to talk about both of those things today i have some new york football giant fantasy football questions we are going to re-rank the top 24 actually i've already re-ranked and then probably we'll change my rankings again during this show i'm going to publish like full top 40 rookie rankings at the end of this week um so dan and i will talk about the top 24 top 30 rookies in dynasty what's changed where we kind of disagree i know one of those places for sure but let's start with the giants and dan like you mentioned the training camp highlights i said this on fft yesterday the giants beat reporters do seem to be doing a very good job of at least balancing like we not maybe not

beat reporters but everybody we get one incredible malik neighbors highlight for every one daniel jones lol and like those two things do not seem to be having equal effects though on his value and the the the highlight videos it's to the moon and then then we laugh at Daniel Jones, but that doesn't really impact Malik neighbors. It does. So I listen, he's a generational wide receiver prospect, possibly. Maybe he was the best wide receiver in this draft. Certainly as we'll see later, I think the clear top two, but can he overcome this situation in year one?

And that's the question right there. Cause I think you said it best. We've seen, I think we did a mock yesterday and link neighbors where he came off the board of the mock. I was to be on a surprise. He kept starting to come off the board in the range of wide receivers that we thought he would never reach. I don't think, I think maybe a month too good.

We thought this might happen because we saw it happen early with Marvin Harrison jr. Like he was coming off the board in our mocks as early as round two early. But we needed this little boost of early training camp, I guess. What do you want to call it? Hopium has really changed the stock of neighbors. And I always said this, Heath, about my projection for neighbors in year one. I think a lot of what's going to happen for neighbors in year one will be similar to what happened with Jalen Waddell in year one. And you can look at his stats from year one, I think is a really good barometer

for where neighbors will be. And that essentially was an offense that was designed to get the ball to Jalen Waddle really quickly with easy layup throws off of RPOs, off of play action, off of bootlegs, all things that Daniel Jones can operate due to his athleticism. And there have been no drawbacks yet from an athleticism standpoint with Jones. He's moving around well. He's running well. The timing has been off on the passing. We'll get to that in a little bit. But what that does is cap his ceiling to some degree.

So I think that makes him a bigger buy in PBR leagues. If you look at Jalen Waddell's rookie year, high reception total, high target total, solid yards, but not a lot of touchdowns, four touchdowns. I think that could be, if you're thinking eight touchdowns for neighbors, it really takes him into this range of where he's starting to be drafted now. I think you might be a little disappointed, but I will say this, Heath,

there's been a clear and distinct difference in the way the offense is being run so far and called so far in training camp than anything we've seen. And the reason for that is Brian Dable has taken over play calling duties for the first time since joining the Giants. And I've heard that he's within, he's in the organization as like in team meetings, kind of leading the team meetings with the quarterbacks. And we're seeing

a ton of deep shots. Neighbors have been the recipient of those. The problem being, as you mentioned earlier, the timing's been very off. Daniel Jones has underthrown Malik neighbors, at least twice on wide open three, four step plays where he was behind the coverage would have been a 70 yard touchdown. And he's not the only one. It's happening. Jalen Hyatt and Darius Slayton as well. So like you said earlier, in the end, the ceiling is reliant on the offensive line and the quarterback, but I do think we can get a very good PPR season out of him. I would be drafting more in the wide receiver two range. And I think he's starting to creep up a little toward that, that wide receiver two, one range for red redraft but i do think the receptions will be there and the targets will

be there now i think that that waddle rookie season is really interesting one to compare it to because um some of the things you said i really agree with i think like the shape of the season i agree with i went back and looked at that season waddle was wide receiver 15 per game at the end of the year with six receiving touchdowns. That Dolphins team had Tua for 12 games of starting, Jacoby Brissett for five. They threw for 3,936 yards. There were 615 attempts. Do you think those numbers are reasonable to expect for the New York Giants this year? 615 pass attempts, 3,936 yards. They would both be outlandishly high compared to what we've seen during the Daniel Jones era or the Brian Dable era. Yeah, and I do think it's realistic because I think what we've seen so far is such a

drastic change in how this offense is being called so many deep shots. And we can look back at Dables tenure calling plays for the bills. He was one of the most pass heavy play callers ever to the point where Bill's fans were like calling for his head at the end, at the end of the day, where on then they immediately felt bad about them. We're like, no,

we want him back. Um, but we were looking at some game scripts that were like 65, 70% pass attempts. So I do think the best attempts are coming up the yards. That's another factor in question. Didn't, it was never done it. Um, saying healthy is another reason why he hasn't done it. But if he plays all those games, I don't think that's unrealistic at all. Given the attempts I see coming and how this offense is going to change. The question will be, will the efficiency be

there? Will the touchdowns be there? I think that's the main thing that's going to hold back neighbors when people are looking to invest right now heath as far as redraft goes dimes he's a whole different story obviously just keep in mind that that touchdown total will likely be capped and i do think like looking at the efficiency from that jaylen wattle rookie season the team averaged 6.4 yards for pass attempts and had a 3.4 percent touchdown rate that is right in daniel joan the wheelhouse right he has put those numbers up throughout his entire career and a low a dot as well and other than jones does it's whether he can get 615 pass attempts off without taking off running and getting sacked 715 times um we're going to have to see that let's move on to the running game because there are actually i've got one more question are there any other pass catchers on this team that matter in dynasty well i really do

believe there are actually heath and i'm this is something that i do i watch a lot of tape for my job and and here's the thing this is why i like dynasty so much i don't have to make a decision on whether these players are going to be impactful yet for fantasy football in dynasty leagues because they're young players and right now the quarterback situation is not great, but the quarterback situation last year for Kyle Pitts and Drake London was horrible. And now it's like a completely different story. And if you had bought in on either of them in dynasty,

you reap the rewards now, or we hope you will with Kirk cousins. I think he will run that offense well. So I think Malik name, I'm sorry. I think Jalen Hyatt and Wanda Robinson are both easy buys for me in dynasty. Hyatt has looked like completely different players so far in training camp. He's getting often more, he's getting open more often.

He's added about 10 pounds of muscle. That was a big focus for him to try to get more play strength. That was his biggest concern his rookie year. He's high pointing footballs. He showed great concentration and body control on two long catches that he came down with. One in the end zone and one was about a 50 yarder. One was from Jones. I think the other's from Drew Locke.

And then Wandel is somebody who really came on at the end of last year, had some good games with DeVito, had a game-winning play against the Packers, but ultimately I felt like was just held back in a lot of ways by the offensive line and the quarterback play. These are still going to be issues now, Heath, but in a year from now, in two years from now, maybe the hope is that the quarterback can improve. We don't know. It's the NFL. You never know when you're going to get an upgrade

there, but I think their value is so cheap right now in Dynasty that those are two players I would buy. Are Wandale Robinson and Jalen Hyatt both guys that you are willing to hold on your roster all year long if they do nothing? Hyatt for sure. Wandale less so. Okay. Need to see something from Wandale this year. And then finally, the running game, not Daniel Jones' running game, because we still think he'll do that, but the actual running backs. Devin Singletary, the presumed starter.

I kind of want to look at it from a couple different angles. Is he someone that a contender could look at as a potential flex or maybe RB2 this year? And if something happens to him, is it Tyrone tracy season or as i kind of expect is tracy just remain the passing downs back and eric gray's the early downs guy well i think this is where i have some insight for you it's been very interesting so far in training camp with the giants the expectation was eric gray was going to have a leg up it's the

second year in the system but eric gray struggled last year in pass production and eric gray struggled in a lot of ways, fumbles, ball security, and has not looked good so far in camp. So what that has meant is the door is open for somebody to step in behind Devin Singletary. And we already know that Devin Singletary, while he does know the system and he can, he played in with Dable and he's, you know, was efficient last year with Texans.

It's not going to be Saquon Barkley. They're not going to give him that snap share percentage anywhere near it. He's never done in his career. And the whole point of moving on from Barkley was to get a multi-back system like they will used to have in Buffalo. So guys will play behind Singletary. The question is who, and the name, I think you should keep an eye on deep dynasty leagues, deep, deep, deep name. No one to sign yet, but just keep on your radar. His name is Dante Miller and his nickname is turbo. They actually signed him this off season. He didn't make last year's draft, but he was supposed to make last year's draft. And he came in and was signed this off season. He played at last. He

played was at Columbia university, but man, this kid is fast and he's looked explosive so far in training camp. He adds a different level of speed to the offense and anyone in that running back room, including Tyron Tracy, who is a great athlete, Tracy, but more of a lateral athlete in my mind than a straight line runner. But Dante Turbo Miller has been really fast and really good and made some plays already. So he's the guy I want you to keep an eye on as a deep dive. But Tyrone Tracy's also looked good so far in camp, getting glowing reports so far about his decisiveness as a runner. And this is something that you're gonna have to keep an eye on because last year at Purdue, he really ran primarily out of shotgun. And that's not what it's going to be in the NFL.

You're going to have to learn your run keys under center and a completely different scheme. The Giants use a lot of duo power gap. So I'm excited to see how he runs in it. But he's also looked good. So those are the two guys I would keep an eye on at the running back position. We are going to talk more about Tracy, or maybe a little bit later in the show. That's your Giants report from Dan Schneier. We are going to talk rook about Tracy, or maybe a little bit later in the show. That's your Giants report from Dan Schneier.

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Learn more at MillerLite.ca. Must be legal drinking age. Okay, Dan, so we've re-ranked, I've re-ranked the top 24 rookies in Superflex PPR leagues. And I kind of tiered them as well, almost. Definitely this first group, I think one through four, a pretty clear tier for me. We've got Caleb Williams at the top. We've got Jaden Daniels, number two, Marvin Harrison, Jr., Malik Navers, those four players in a class of their own in terms of my opinion. And I kind of will ask you this question at the start of most of these. And it's not a tier show, but for this is a tier here tier one for me are these in the right order williams daniels harrison neighbors and then also is that

did i leave anybody out well i don't want to say they're in the right order or not in the right order because it's your opinion and i'm gonna have my opinion and it's different it doesn't mean it's right but i will say that i do have a different opinion of how to rank these players based on my evaluations and based on my long-term prognostication. And I will say this because you said it's not a tier show. I love breaking things into tiers. I think that's the best way to look at and evaluate fantasy football. So I'm happy you did that for me.

I also have a four player tier, but bumped down out of my tier is Jaden Daniels into tier two and bumped up is Romo Doonze. And I would have it Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Malik neighbors and Romo Doonze one, two, three, four in that order with Caleb being first in super flex. Uh, my concerns with Jaden Daniels are you've seen very few quarterbacks over the history of the NFL have a success at under 200 pounds. He was supposedly just over 200 pounds of the combine. Everyone who saw him knew it was water weight and it was added weight for the combine. Same goes for McCarthy. Maybe he can add to that frame, but he's 24 years old and from his lower half, it doesn't look promising to me. The only quarterbacks who have ever done it sub 200 are three good seasons out of Kirk Cousins,

one good season out of Jeff Garcia. That's red flag. Number one is 39% scramble rate in the college level was red flag. Number two, always turn and a very high rate of run on scrambles, which is not keeping his head up down the field. He's going to have to change that as well. Did not really use the middle of the field at all as a passer in college either was outside the numbers in a system, uh, with Brian Kelly that I don't really think translate at translates at all to the NFL, but at the same time, he's got a lightning quick release and he's an insane athlete so it could work it's just there's too many red flags for me to put him

into my tier one so instead i have yeah go ahead no that is that 200 pound concern and it's solely an injury thing it's solely an injury thing correct yes so you're just we're afraid that he's not going to be able to take the pounding in the nfl um because like the the rest of the stuff especially the scramble rate for nfl football i kind of understand for fantasy football like why can't he just be lamar jackson you would think about why can't he just be lamar jackson but then you watch him play at lsu and when he's running around he's running around with no regard i will give him credit that he did a better job protecting his body toward the end of the season last year, but he's still got a long ways to go there. So I just don't know if it's a good long-term plan to be a high scramble rate quarterback at sub 200 at the NFL level where everybody's bigger and faster.

Daps are closing. So again, the scramble rate concern, also an injury concern. Like if I told you Jaden Daniels is going to play a 17 game season, the next five years, he's going to play 75 games. You'd be all in on Jaden. I'd be all in, but I would also tell you that based on the stats and based on the history,

he'd be an outlier and you can be an outlier. People can be outliers. I just personally, when I look at the idea of if this guy is successful, he has to be an outlier. I need to, it's just, I'm for dynasty,

a long-term thing. I'm not willing to put that guy in my tier one. Let's go then just jump right away because I, guy successful he has to be an outlier i need to it's just i'm for dynasty a long-term thing i'm not willing to put that guy in my tier one let's go then just jump right away because i the the guy that i'm lower on than dan he mentioned him but we're going to talk about him in this next group so i've got kind of five players next it's my super flex five through nine one guy i think i'm probably a little bit lower on than most one guy i'm definitely just fighting to not be higher on it's jj mccarthy it's drake may it's roma dunzey it's jonathan brooks and it's brock bowers and i'm i'm gonna let's start with you just talking about roma dunzey um i had kind of an eval of it was harrison neighbors and then a gap and then a dunzey

and then a gap um you have a dude and then when i'm probably just snake bit by the jsn thing but i just hate the landing spot and i hate the idea of spending a top three or four pick on a guy that i don't think i'm going to be able to start all year are you talking about rome with the landing spot yeah for me we look at it very differently with the landing spot i actually love the landing spot. And I'll tell you why. For me, for Dynasty, when I'm looking at landing spots, I want the most important thing rather than what's your path to targets, what's this and that, is who's your quarterback long-term.

And I have such a strong belief in Caleb Williams at the quarterback position that that's why I have Rome in my tier one. Because I didn't see much of a drop-off personally from Rome to the other two receivers. There was a clear elite three receivers in this draft class. Roman Dunzay, to me, and I saw this comp originally from Trevor Sycamus, I want to give him credit for it, is a bigger version of Chris Olave. And what we mean, what he means by that, or what I mean by that when I watch his tape, is he's not going to be somebody who's as flashy as neighbors or doesn't do the things that Marvin Harrison does from a body control standpoint.

But man, is that guy smooth running his routes, smooth getting in and out of his breaks and someone who's six foot three should not be that way. And Olave won in a lot of ways. When he came out of Iowa state, remember nobody was really that high on Olave. When the Saints traded up, they're like, people were like, what? I'm not so sure about this one. He doesn't really, he's not huge. He doesn't have all these metrics we're looking for. And he was immediately a success at the NFL level, because when you're that smooth getting in and out of breaks, you're tough to stop. And in addition to that, he's unbelievable at the catch point. And we're talking about Romo Dunzay here, 75% contested catch rate last year, Washington bonkers numbers, Pennix would just throw it up in his vicinity, which I thought he bailed him out a

lot of Dunzay. I'm not a big Pennix fan for that reason. And Dunzay made the plays. So there's red zone upside. There's third down upside there, but being tied to Kayla Williams is a big factor for me. I'm going to put that me personally, is a big factor for me i'm gonna put that me personally how i evaluate dynasty i'm gonna put that over the immediate path to target because i don't think he and alan's very long in the tooth personally in that offense and then if it's a two-man game with him and dj more i'm more than fine with that and that's that's the thing is like if you can just be fine with the idea that like when i look at the dynasty rankings a year from now there's a very good chance the guy that like, when I look at the dynasty rankings a year from now, there's a very good chance. The guy that I drafted here is going to be ranked lower. He's not going to have as much value,

but I still believe in the eval and there, I still believe it's going to be fine. Then, then that works out. Okay. That brings up a great point though. He's like, which we don't have to get into now,

unless we want to, it's a great dynasty kind of question and dynasty conundrum that we all find ourselves in. Like, how are you want to play this? Do you want to play it just straight up? Like you said, in a way that I seem to be playing dynasty, which is I have my evaluation. I'm going to trust it. I'm going to know this is more of a long-term thing, or do you want to play the market a little

bit more and understand that? Like I can buy certain players knowing their value will be a certain way a year from now or projecting where their value will be a certain way. And then play based on that and try to keep making trades and different doing different transactions to kind of maximize the value because i see upside in both ways right like if you understand the value of like oh junze is not as likely to jump and i can then get more out of it and i think it depends a lot on your leagues too like i've been in some very active dynasty leagues and some less so active dynasty leagues where i'd rather just kind of draft my guys and let him let him kind of develop right well and that's the thing is like if you loved jsn right it still would have been better to not draft him last year and to just trade for

him now right that's because his value has taken an enormous hit even though at the beginning of the last year i think we all said we're just not we're not going to penalize him for this right he's got dk and he's got tyler lockett and then he does nothing and we're like oh i'm not even sure what this guy anymore so yeah it is um and what one thing like with the competition that he had at washington right i don't know how many people are looking at jaylen mcmillan and and jaylen polk and saying well yeah i mean it makes sense that he had 25% of the team's yards or whatever as a 20 year old junior, because he had those two guys. He was basically had the same season as McMillan two years ago.

And then last year, McMillan gets hurt last and Roma Dunzay is the clear number one. Are we maybe just undervaluing the other two guys? I think it's possible. I think it's also possible that we're undervaluing the system that they put in there and how effective that was at the collegiate level with the rules that the college game offers with the amount of space on the field side that you can play around with against Pac-12 defenses. I mean, I watched a lot of Washington-Tay-Pete. There was a lot of open space, and it seemed like the coach did a really good good job of understanding that I could just have a quarterback that just puts the ball up there. Good things will happen. So I think partially that, but those two receivers also very good, like really talented on tape, especially, uh, no, especially Polk.

I was the one I liked even more. I just thought he did a really good job of separating. So let's talk about my deception here because I'm not being honest with you guys. Like my actual process wants to rank rank jonathan brooks even higher than this um i see a pretty big gap between him and trey benson and i see a very big gap between brooks and benson and the other running backs in this class and brooks is still just like just turned 21 years old. So the short life of a running back is a little bit longer for him than it is like,

I think comparing him to a 23 year old wide receiver, it's not a whole lot different. Where do you view Brooks? Is this the right tier for him? Or am I too high even where I fudged and moved him down a little bit? No, well, so it's different for me just based on

how I play dynasty and my evaluation of the, of the game of the fantasy game and dynasty. I have him as my clear cut RB one. Let me start by saying that I loved his tape. I thought he was better than Benson on tape. I thought his ability, what I really liked the most about Brooks is he had a little bit of that. And maybe it's because he played behind him a little bit of that Dijon Robinson to him, which when I mean by that is setting up the blocks the right way, understanding how to win inside a phone booth rather than Benson, who I thought a lot of the time kind of was really good at running through arm tackles and getting to the edge and then making moves, but more of a see it, run it inside rather than Brooks, which is

kind of setting it up and understanding everything very advanced as a runner, but still would be a tier lower for me just because of how I play dynasty. I really am a very anti running back in dynasty. It's not an investment I want to make. It really is tough for me to ever pull the trigger on a running back in dynasty. Like I'll take Bowers over him, word D Thomas. And you know, I even would consider somebody like McConkie over my, over my running back. Now it's different if I have a little bit of a better situation I'm coming into, but I personally don't love this Carolina situation. I haven't loved what I've seen from Tepper as an owner,

and I'm not very high on Dan Morgan's chances as a general manager, just based on kind of the, this is just one thing, but the hard knock situation with Brian Burns, I don't really love how he handled that whatsoever at all. I feel like they gave up a ton of capital, get Bryce Young, who I'm not very high on. Their offensive line, to me, still a ton of question marks, both short and long-term. So situation is going to play a factor for me with Brooks because it's got to happen quick, I think in fantasy or else the dynasty value will tank like we talked about before. So for me, he's maybe more

of someone I would look to trade for if the situation starts to look like it's improving, but running backs for me, it's going to be very tough to move them up over some receivers who i really like the evaluations of yeah and i think like i i get the anti-running back thing and and three or four years ago i thought like i was pretty anti-running back compared to everybody else and that's swung so far and it is still true like if you want to go win a fantasy league you're going to need two running backs but i do think you can kind of trade for them when you're in the win now mode that that's you possibly can yeah um so yeah it's i i knew that i would be higher and i know that i think like we're gonna have time to talk about every single discrepancy i think you also like drake may more than you like jj we've done that before that they're about they both belong right here. People probably have Brock Bowers a little bit higher.

I'm just not that excited. I like to talk about a situation I don't like. And then also a rookie tight end. I just don't generally get too excited about drafts. This is about as high as I would draft any of them. I agree he's a great prospect. Let's move to the third tier and kind of the last group of guys that I'm considering in round one of a super flex draft they are Xavier Worthy, Brian Thomas, Bo Nix, Ladd McConkie and Michael Penix and Penix is at 14

you could maybe put him down we'll talk about it after the break in the third tier but Worthy, Thomas, Nix, McConkie, Penix, that's 14 players. Is there anybody, first off, that I've not listed yet that you might actually consider drafting in the first round of a Superflex rookie draft? I think if I was in that spot where it's back end, probably not just because you named them all, and I don't think I would take Benson or Coleman, who would be in the mix over the, over the pot.

It would be basically McConkie or them at that point. If you were, if the draft went like your top 11, which I think are the top 11. So probably not, but I, but I will say I'm not nearly as high as you on Bo Nix or Penix. Penix to me would be way low in my rankings, like outside, maybe even the top 25 or 30, even in super flex. You don't think he's going to get a chance to start, or you don't think he's going to start for three years. I don't really understand the idea of Michael Pennix as a dynasty asset, given his advanced age right now, Kirk cousins ahead of him. And the fact that he has no mobility whatsoever. I understand, Stan, he ran a D a pretty good, supposedly he's fast according to

40 time, but you don't see it ever on tape so that concerns the hell out of me i guess it's just like he just never tried to run or it's not part of his game i'm very skeptical that if you don't see it at all on tape in college level it's going to all of a sudden show up in the nfl when things are faster so i don't really understand what his upside is uh just based on on the age and his profile as a quarterback. So Andrew says Pennix over Knicks all day. I mean, I'm fine with Pennix over Knicks. I'm not high on Knicks either.

Was there a better landing spot in the universe for Bo Knicks than with Sean Payton? Not really. But then again, I guess that's partially why the only reason I'm kind of in on next because of the landing spot. I don't think he was terrible at college either. He can kind of make some good throws on the run. He's got a little bit of mobility as well. A little bit of mobility and more importantly in the mobility. I like that he changes his arm slot when he's throwing on the run.

So he has like that three, four, fourth throw, which is to me is very important as NFL quarterback. You look at a lot of the reason why some of the other quarterbacks struggle while they're throwing on the run daniel jones is a great example it's because they are taught from like david cutcliffe that over the top motion it doesn't work when you're on the run you need to go to that three four slot and nicks does that well but i also see a scenario where nicks is completely overwhelmed by the nfl pressure the blitz uh just his size is a factor i think yeah this is more of a philosophical thing if you are going to like i think he's going to get a year at least to start probably and if you're going to get a year to start as a rookie then you're at least in consideration for a first round rookie pick because there's veterans that we don't know if they'll start more than one or two more years

that people will trade first round picks for and super flex. So that puts Knicks in this conversation. I will agree. Aesthetically, it looks strange to see him in a tier with worthy Thomas and McConkie, three guys that we are actually excited about watching football. How do you view those three wide receivers and do the three belong in the same tier? First of all,

I just want to say it's a great point by you too, because like we have to understand like the value of these quarterbacks and super flex, like you're going over. It's just so much differently. A great example is I tried to buy low on Bryce young in a dynasty league. I offered two second round picks one this year, which is a pretty good rookie. And it was no chance. It wasn't even consideration, right? Because, you know, even though we're down, a lot of people are down on Bryce young, no, one's willing to make that sell that early. And that's the value of quarterbacks and how gold they really are. So I'm okay with that. Have those three wide receivers answer that question. I would say for me, it's Xavier worthy by it's Xavier worthy by a pretty

good margin, um, over the other two worthy as a player whose tape I really liked. And I think I talked about this with Dave Richard a lot. When we watch this tape together around the same time, we're like, this guy is going to be billed as the next John Ross, the guy who wins the 40-yard dash, and he's just that guy, but he's not. He goes over the middle, he makes tough catches in traffic, and he can win. I don't want to say he can win at all three levels yet, but he's shown glimpses that he can win at the first and second level, which is really, really important.

And he has Patrick Mahomes now. I don't want to understate the importance of having Patrick Mahomes, and I've liked what I've seen from Worthy in camp so far. He had a play, and I don't want to go too much into camp highlights, but he had a really good play where he got open in the end zone and Mahomes threw him a ball, and it was a contested catch. And he went up and he high-pointed it, and he came down despite the DB being right over him.

People will look at that. People before seeing that will be like, oh, he's just this burner type that doesn't do stuff like that, but he does. So it would be Worthy for me. Yeah, I have been a little bit scared. I agree. I've liked most of what I've heard. I didn't like the fact that we had a little hamstring thing at OTAs.

We missed a lot of that. We had a little hamstring thing. And that's part of the problem with guys that are that fast is can your muscles actually hold up to running that fast for a full 17-game season? And he's not a big guy at all, a small wide receiver. your muscles actually hold up to running that fast for a full 17 game season so i'm like and he's not a big guy at all a small wide receiver so i i do worry a little bit about worthy being able to play 17 games and see 120 targets in a season and be healthy enough to continue playing

football i can understand that but one thing i want to say and that's definitely i mean that's the biggest concern with him i would say personally, some people would say a route running is concerned. It's not for me. I think that was only going to get better, but I think about like his role in this chiefs offense. And I think about some of the red zone designs I've seen from a Cole Hardman over the, before when he was with the chiefs and then what they tried to do with Tony, but he's just too big. And I mean, we're not going to get into that, but they tried to do with Tony. And I just feel like he's the next guy for that. Xavier Worthington, he's going to step up and take that role and be an absolute weapon

early in the red zone. Even if he's not playing a full compliment of snap, that's going to put him right away on the fantasy radar. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's probably true. It's, it's whether he is able to be healthy enough to play 70% of the snaps and like be a real player and do those things.

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So I said 17 through 24. We got to talk about the two guys, the in-betweeners, I think for me, like the definite early second round picks in your super flex drafts, Trey Benson, Keon Coleman. I don't really know how to feel about Keon Coleman, Dan. I can't put him in the same tier as Worthy and McConkie and Thomas, but he's a near first round pick tied to Josh Allen. So I feel like he's got to be not too far behind those guys. I don't actually love him as a prospect and I don't actually love what I'm hearing out of Buffalo, but how do you feel about Keon Coleman? And then like, there's not a whole lot to say about Trey Benson. I don't think. I like Keon Coleman. I think more than consensus. This is just somebody who's taped. When I watched the Florida state, I thought was better than I

knew he was kind of not going to run that 40 time that people wanted out of him. But if we do remember, he had the fastest miles per hour gauntlet drill at the entire combine. And I think that gives an idea of what he can actually do the 40 yard dash. You know, sometimes you're running verticals, but a lot of the time you're running routes where you have to make a cut and you have to make a break and get in and out of your breaks. And I think for his size, he does that really well, but I do think there are some areas of his game that concern me. His separation rate, if you look at some of the routes against man coverage, and that's something Matt Harmon charted.

Shout out Matt Harmon. He did not really separate against man. And in the NFL, if you don't separate against man, it could get ugly. We've seen this happen with the J.J. Ortega-Widesides of the world and people like that. So it's a risk. That profile is always a risk. But I just am kind of betting on my feel for him based on film. And I have a good feel for him personally. Um, and then as far as Benson goes, it's interesting because

two years ago, before he kind of had that injury, a major injury, he, he did something that not many people did. And he broke the record for the most, the best four Smith's tackle rate, according to pro football focus and college football history. And the people who have done that are like etn bijon robinson like it's in that range those are guys who have had success at the nfl level because we know there's not many sticky stats you know from an advanced stat point advanced stat standpoint but one of them is missed forced tackle rate and others yards after contact player attempt those are the two i really focus on because they do translate and so i do like benson as well these are guys i'd probably have a little bit higher maybe in that tier group with the other guys so you've got the 11th let's say the 11th pick just to kind of put this the

squeeze to you squeeze to you just a little bit all right and you just lost the championship last year to adam azar so you're like you're you're hurting right now. And the clear weakness on your team is running back. Sorry, go ahead. So can you pull the trigger on Trey Benson over the wide receivers in the tier above? If you're in that, that's the scenario. There's already so many flaws in this scenario because Adam Mazur never wins a championship. No, I'm just kidding. But I will say this. I was in a similar position actually with a trade up to the two

one, which is essentially similar to this spot. Um, was it, is it a 10 team league? No, it is a 12, but it was similar. It was Benson or, um, a conky that was essentially was on the board in this scenario. Am I getting an option of Brian Thomas jr? Yes. I'm going to take Brian Thomas jr. Unfortunately, if I have that option, even though I need the running back, I, I feel very strongly Heath that in dynasty.

And I've done this before when I do have these teams that are ready to compete by the time that trade deadline, you're not ready to compete. You just lost the championship. You're one of the two best teams in the league. When I'm doing the team, that's competing. I should say,

but I'm by ready. I just mean winning that year. I've done a really good job of making trades for running backs, and they have not cost a lot of money. The capital you can get for some of these older dudes, it's very low. It's a second-round pick, typically. Okay. Okay.

So no Trey Benson over Brian Thomas Jr., even if his championship life depended on it. What's this going to do for me this year? What's that? That's true. He may not well i actually saw today heath that um benson so far down the depth chart that demarcato is actually getting first team reps and this is exactly the type of thing that nobody i'm gonna rant for a

second here dan because i i really enjoyed having the highlights back and I've enjoyed having the beat reports back and the reason to kind of move people around the rest. There was a time in July where I went like 17 days without updating my rankings. And I was like, Oh man, I'm not doing my job. And then I looked at him and I was like, I don't, there's nothing to change. And so I'm glad to like have some things happening, but also before training camp starts, we tell people don't get too hyped up by these videos. Don't make anything out of depth charts in July.

And when we get to September, I guarantee you, we're going to talk about, man, I wish we hadn't bought into this and this and this, but right here in the midst of it, you're citing Amari DiMarcato playing ahead of Trey Benson in practice. I know. As I said after, don't make too much of that.

It's more so along the lines of, look, I don't know if they're in a position like some of these other teams have been in the past where they can really, I don't want to say rush the player into a certain role, but where he's just more, it's easy for him to get that role. I think Benson may be looking at as more of a long-term option and not based on the demarcato, just based on the fact that they have a lot of depth that are running back right now. And they have players who have played good snaps for them. That might, you know, even the kid from the jets, like Michael Carter's been playing a lot for them.

And Michael Carter was pretty good last year when he got it with the, with the Cardinals. So there's a lot of guys there. Practicing a lot for them, not playing playing a lot no one's playing right now but i will say this i think what trey benson does for you this year is for me just dependent on which four games james connor is going to miss if james connor misses week five through nine then trey benson's probably doesn't really matter much for you this year. If James Connor misses weeks 13 through 18, then Trey Benson's going to win some people, some fantasy leagues this year.

Cause I do think if Connor's gone, then Michael Cardi and Mark D Mercado are not standing in the way of Trey Benson. Let's talk about this last group. And this is the group that I expect. I have one or two guys that everybody just completely disagrees with. And I'm not going to mention somebody that somebody thinks is in the first half of the draft that's the nature of this draft class that we kind of agree we kind of agree we kind of agree and then we get to this part of the draft

and we all just hate each other so i have now jaylen polk who is a big summer riser for me i've really enjoyed what i've heard coming out of new england kind of digging into him a little bit more ad mitchell at 18, Xavier Leguette at 19, still mostly just because of where he was drafted. Then Jalen Wright, Blake Corum, Marshawn Lloyd, three running backs from 20 to 22. Ricky Pearsall, another guy for me that's just there because of when he was drafted.

And number 24, Troy Franklin. Let's just start with this question, Dan. Who's the most ridiculous guy i have in the top 24 the most ridiculous guy you have in the top 24 that's a great question i would say it is troy franklin i'm not high on troy franklin okay so he's number 24 so yeah like honestly i think this morning i made a little tweak to my projections and malachi corley would now be number 24 which you would also think is ridiculous. So let's, let's talk about these guys at the top of the group. And first off, I guess, do you think that anybody really stands out and should be up in that key on Coleman Trey Benson

group? There are three players on this list that I think are, are in it or stand out. I still don't know if I'd put them in the tier above. I probably would put at least one of them in the tier above. And those three players are, uh, 80 Mitchell, whose film I thought was absolutely phenomenal as far as what the upside is the NFL level. When you're getting to this point of your dynasty draft, cause you're not going to have to take a much higher than this. He, we, we've already seen them. I've gotten him. I have him in a lot of my dynasty teams and it was always back in round two, very end around two. Um, you're not going to get my mind, a talent like him who has the upside in my mind to be one of the three best receivers, or sorry, one of the four, the fourth best receiver in this class. I had him as wide receiver for based on my scouting,

but in within that, I understood there's a massive floor and that floor being he's never produced at the collegiate level, but when you're the, his size and you can get in and out of the breaks like he can, you can watch his red zone routes at Texas. It's unbelievable the way he uses his feet to get open inside the red zone. It looks to me like a little bit like DK Metcalf when he came out, not as strong as DK Metcalf, about as tall, not as strong, but also better feet a little bit quicker with his feet. And maybe the better comp would be like Jordy Nelson back when he used to play for the Packers. And he won in a lot of ways, Jordy with his footwork, though, I think 80 might be a little bit faster, at least timing wise, he tested a little bit faster from an athletic standpoint. He's unbelievable. His flashes of

film are unbelievable. Now I thought he was held back a lot by Quinn Ewers, who was very scattershot as a thrower. So 80 from a talent standpoint would be there. And I know the Colts are just as high on him. They feel like he's a phenomenal prospect. They stole in this draft. The other two for me would be Ricky Pearsall and Xavier Leggett. Pearsall, just absolutely great on tape. And I thought it should have been a first round pick. The 49ers agreed. It was a little bit surprising, but I will buy into a first round pick from the 49ers at wide receiver. I understand the situation looks ugly right now, but let's just keep in mind Debo Samuel has had a lot of injuries in his career. He plays a very physical style. I am not certain that style is going to be just as effective for the next three, four or five years, which is what my time frame I'm thinking about with Pearsall.

IU situation. I don't think we know what's going to happen there, Heath, but I will say this, take one good look at their salary cap situation. And it's very hard to envision how they're going to resign IU to one of the biggest deals in wide receiver history while also figuring out how to pay brock purdy and that kind of time is coming very soon because the pressure will be put yeah go ahead no i think you're right to think that like 2025 ricky pierce all should get a chance he's going to be like it's pretty easy to to figure out ricky pierce all's age because whatever year it is on the calendar that's an older prospect he's going to turn 24 on september the 9th i'm not sure if that's before their first game but it's probably it's very very close he's going to turn 25 most

likely before he gets a chance to start a game unless somebody gets hurt and i think even if somebody gets hurt there's a chance that he's not in the two wide receiver sets this year agreed because juan jennings they love right so i just like you were talking about i'm talking Even if somebody gets hurt, there's a chance that he's not in the two wide receiver sets this year. Agreed, because Jawan Jennings they love. Right. So I just, like you were talking about, I'm talking about a three, four, five-year window with Ricky Pearsall. He's 24 years or 28 years old four years from now. It's not great.

But at the same time, like I knew he was one of the names you were going to say. And I know there's a lot of people that love him as a prospect so i'd like for just like if you give me like 60 seconds sure about why this guy don't say kyle shanahan or anything like that but why this guy as a prospect is worth overlooking his age and at this point i think we should say lack of opportunity in year one yeah it starts with his ability to get in and out of his breaks so smooth getting in and out of his breaks. So smooth getting in and out of his breaks, and that's creating separation. Him and McConkie were the two best I studied in this class outside of the elite guys, obviously. The second is his ability to high point the football and his body control in the air. You can see some of the crazy acrobatic catches he made at Florida, but he is an explosive athlete, and he tested that way as

well. He tested as one of the best athletes in the wide receiver position. This was a surprise for a lot of people. No one expected him to have four or four speed. He did no one, the vertical stuff, you could see it on tape, but no one was like, this dude's going to be that level athlete. But the biggest thing for me is how it fits Kyle Shanahan system. Kyle Shanahan system is all about the run game, opening them up, opening up the deep in crossers. It's all about deep in crossers and his ability on those deep ends that I watched at Florida

was phenomenal. So fit the system, the athleticism, the ability to get in and out of his breaks as a route really – I mean, he was the lead receiver on several teams, but he never was a target dominator or a yards dominator. Why was he not ever dominant with those traits? To me, and this is maybe viewed as an excuse and it's fine, but to me it's quarterback play. I just don't think that it's easy to produce very – I'm a big believer in wide receivers are mostly dependent on the quarterbacks in a lot of ways. Um, you can have some examples.

Obviously Justin Jefferson did great with, with, with a lot of quarterbacks last year. Um, and, and he's like the best receiver in the NFL. Obviously if you're the best receiver in NFL, you can overcome it, but for the most part, you can be held back and also systems. Like he played in a system that wasn't as open before he transferred to Florida. And then even last year at Florida, I mean, we're talking about Graham Mertz as a quarterback. He played at Wisconsin. I've seen what he's about. He's not really the guy you want throwing the football and not definitely not a guy who can kind of see leaning on one guy in the passing game. But that is a good point because if you look at the history of it, statistically, I talked about outlier earlier with Jaden Daniels from a size standpoint, you do see that he would have to be

an outlier from the same thing with AD Mitchell from a statistical standpoint of not dominating targets, a collegiate level. But remember, like we're talking about deeper into the diet, into the rookie draft at this point, this is not like a top 10 type of guy. Now I think we should spend at least a minute.

Cause the other guy you said, Xavier Leggett Gibbs and I have gone back and forth on him on this show. They're older guy, another older guy who was like he's one who you can take the advanced stats and make the case of we've never had anybody wait this long to be this good and be good and also we've never had anybody be as good as he was last year and not be good so you could how do you mesh those things together and then along with his age on a team in year one, where no matter how

good he is, I think Deontay Johnson's definitely going to out-target him. And we don't really like Bryce Young. Yeah, it's an issue. The situation is definitely, as far as a short term, it's definitely an issue, but say, if you look at someone I didn't expect to originally, when we had this show, maybe if I did this a month ago or, you know, whenever I wasn't probably going to be pinpointing him as somebody who I was higher on the consensus. But as I've gone back, cause you know, it starts with this, like I see some of the training camp clips and I'm like, wow, this dude moves really, really well for somebody his size. Like, did I just miss this at the college level or did I not watch enough of it? So I went back and I actually watched a few more games of him. I think it was two games. I'm

forgetting who it was. It was Carolina. It was two sec games. Um, I think one was Missouri and I was just kind of surprised at how well he moves for his size. And it kind of goes back to the 80 Mitchell thing when you're that big and you can move that well, and you have that much lower body flexion, it just gives you an advantage. It gives you an upside that a lot in my mind, a lot of these prospects don't have. And it at times can make you a one-on-one winner, somebody who your quarterback can eventually look at and be like, if I have a one-on-one and the safeties are shifted to, to, you know, whoever it may be, Deontay Johnson or the other side of the formation,

or people are now focusing on Jonathan Brooks run game. I can trust him to win this one-on-one matchup. And you've seen a lot of guys break out in fantasy with that profile. It's why I like Eddie Mitchell as well. So I just think the more I watched him, I just think that it's the athleticism and it's the Twitch that really stands out to me with the profile. That's why I like Eddie Mitchell as well. So I just think the more I watched him, I just think that it's the athleticism and it's the twitch that really stands out to me with LeGette.

So we've got three running backs in this tier. Jalen Wright, Blake Corum, Marshawn Lloyd. All three we expect to begin their rookie season as backups. Do you have a strong favorite or is it mostly just whichever one of them gets the opportunity to touch the football? I wouldn't say I'm particularly high on any of these players long term for Dynasty.

This was not a running back class I loved. Jalen Wright, it's possible. Anytime you go to that Mike McDaniel system, it's possible. And he's coming from the Josh Heupel system at Tennessee. My issue with Jalen Wright is when I watched his tape, I saw something I never saw for any running back I've studied in the last three, four or five years. And that's the lightest boxes in the history of college football,

because of the way that system is set up. I don't know if you watch Tennessee football, Heath, but it's, they really maximize. He won't get that in Miami. What'd you say? Well, he won't get that. He'll get it to an extent because they also maximize the width of football, but it's still never going to be what it's like at college based on the

rules, the way the rules with the way the hash marks are set up. I mean, we're talking about the width being insane and some of these formations with like five guys outside and we're running to five, six man boxes. So it's a little easier to make your cut and get up field in that type of space.

So it's a little concerning to me, Marshawn Lloyd to me. I liked his film, but I just don't see the longterm. I have durability issues with him. I don't So it's a little concerning to me. Marshawn Lloyd to me, I liked his film, but I just don't see the long-term durability. I have durability issues with him. I don't think he's a workhorse. I think he's more of just like, we'll look at him as like a Gibson type in Dynasty.

And then finally, Corum should work, but there's some big red flags with Corum. If you look at him pre and post injury at Michigan, he went from one of the most efficient runners to one of the least efficient runners. And it still worked raw stats wise at Michigan because they have a great system set up with a great old line and probably the best offensive line coaching college football. But I'm just, and I know the Rams has done a lot and they've really changed their whole,

like the Rams two years ago went from a zone run scheme to a duo run scheme. And they have done a great job with it. They added more beef this off. So I forgot who they signed in the interior. They signed a big dude, Jonah Jackson, I think from the lions so they got set up nicely for him i just have some concerns with quorum's efficiency going way down in his final season in michigan it's not like a prospect that i'm willing to dive in on i actually have some guys i like behind him that don't have a clear path but might be the more talented backs so i i like quorum quite a bit i wish that he didn't have like a young starter right in front of him but also karen williams has not really ever been able to completely stay healthy so i would guess quorum's gonna get a chance and i think he's going to do

the things that the coaches like we'll see if he can regain any of that explosiveness you referenced it so let's get to it who are your favorite players that i've not mentioned yet so i'm going to start with my favorite player that's not in your top 24, and it's Jermaine Burton, the wide receiver for the Bengals at Alabama. You can watch. If you ask anyone who takes the time to actually watch the tape, and that's part of what they go. For me, it's a big part of what goes in my evaluation dynasty.

Anyone will tell you the same thing. When you watch Jermaine Burton on tape, he's in the second tier. He's after the big three, and he's in the mix to be the fourth best wide receiver on film. But obviously, he had crazy issues off the field and on the field that have kind of checkered his career. So far, so good in Bengals camp. Seems like he's working out well. I heard T. Higgins talk about him, and T. Higgins was like, this dude is different. He's going to be something special for us.

And T. Higgins hasn't said that about Andre you know, Andre, uh, you'll be just, who's a good player for them. Or, you know, somebody who I really liked last year, they drafted Charlie Jones, a limited athlete, Jermaine burden. It has the possibility to be a lot better than people realize because he was kind of hitting into the collegiate level and things that go for a while for him. T Higgins might not be here next year. I think a lot of us think he won't be here from a salary cap standpoint.

So then he has a chance to be the number two. And I think he could work his way as early as this year into the number three role with Joe Burrow. So to me, I'm getting one of the best talents in the draft after the big three with Joe Burrow and the potential of T Higgins moving on. Those three things make him an easy top 24 for me. All he has to do is just be a good teammate and wait his turn. And he's always been super happy to do those types of things.

Not so far, but hopefully he can grow up. Honestly, we'll see. I mean, that's a bet. I don't know. And I'll be honest with you, Heath, when we talk about that type of stuff and the same thing went for the AD Mitchell stuff, why a lot of people downgraded him. I tend to just be like, I don't know. Like, what do we know? We don't know anything about this human being. We don't really know anything about what we've read or what the coaches have said. And it's so hard for me to make an evaluation based on, I'd rather evaluate it based on things we talked about age dominant factor. Like, did you, did you get targets and, and your, and your tape because, and your athleticism, because those are things we can actually judge.

All right. So Burton is one who is who's number two amongst the players, or at least is there another strong number two? I do have a strong number two, and I didn't expect is there another strong number two i do have a strong number two and i didn't expect this to be the guy because early in draft season he was talked about as the i saw a lot of people naming him as the best player in his position and i was like wow this is your i don't want to give away position yet if this is your x1 this is the worst is it that position class ever just because he's not worthy of that. But then he goes late in the draft and

I've seen him in camp so far and I don't want to get too excited, but he looks back down to his playing weight that he played with early in his career at the college level. And that player is Braylon Allen, the running back for the jets out of Wisconsin, obviously I'm a Wisconsin Badger. So some would say I'm biased, but I was harsh on him during the draft process when he was talking about his RB one. So I didn't see it, but his freshman year at Wisconsin, he was 17 years old. Keith. I don't know if you knew that he played at 17 years old, broke out at 17 was a man among boys.

And it looks to me from what I've seen so far at camp that he's back down to that playing weight. And I'm always, always a proponent of running backs, losing weight rather than gaining weight. I think that's much, much better for their outlook. And he looks really good. And I got to tell you, there are a few people at his size who can move the way he does. And he's starting to look more like that player from play. And maybe it's just cutting a little bit of that weight or getting more in like an NFL shape. And I'm very excited about just buying in on a talent like that. Cause I look at some of these guys, Jalen,

right? Marshawn Lloyd, Blake corn guys we've mentioned. And I'm just like, that's not really the ceiling for them as a talent. Doesn't at all look to me like the ceiling of what Braylon Allen could be. But when does Braylon Allen get to play? So this is, yeah, that's the question, right? With Brees Hall ahead of him. Well, I'll say this about that situation. Brees Hall hasn't been the healthiest running back and it's possible that could creep up again, injuries creep up or to the point where the jets are just saying, look, we're not, we're going to wrap. We'd rather run a two back system at some point to keep Reese Hall healthy for the playoffs or to manage his workload, things of that nature. Again, when we're down here and the bottom of the 24, uh, you know,

even outside the 24, I'm less so curious. I'm less so focusing, at least for me, this is my dynasty process. My rankings are less so based on the current situation or even what I project to be the future situation, because I don't know that for sure, and more so based on talent. I like it. So we've talked about 24, 26, 27 players. We only talked about one tight end. That was Brock Bowers. We're not going to go too much more into anybody else.

But, you know, I've got basically four tight ends in my tight end rankings not they're all basically round three picks kind of late round three picks i'm not super excited i hate the fact that cliff kingsbury sees ben senate as an h back i'm not sure that i can even keep him at tight end one but or two anymore but ben senate jatavian sanders theo johnson and then jared wiley's had a heck of a summer for the kansas city chiefs those four guys eric all not far behind them as well five guys i think you could all consider round three or round four um you have a favorite of this group or they all just kind of bunched up for you now they're pretty bunched up for me right now i'm trying to think if i have a favorite i like the ones you named because those are the ones that are in the mix and if you hadn't

said eric all i would have said throw him in the mix right i definitely like him if i had to make a bet i'm betting i know where i'm betting where do you think i'm betting if i had to make a bet uh the guy that's tied to patrick bones exactly you nailed it i thought you're gonna be like oh theo johnson you're a giants fan hell no it's the guy that's tied the bathroom home. It's the guy who moves in a lot of ways unorthodox but gets open. Who does that remind you of? Not the greatest athlete, but he's really good at understanding spatial awareness. Who's that? That's Travis Kelsey.

Exactly. So I see what they see and why I see they see. I'm not saying they see their next Kelsey. He's not going to be Kelsey. We're not talking about the next Hall of Fame tight end. I don't think the Chiefs do that. We're talking about I just the richer get rid the rich get richer at that point.

But I do think tied to Patrick Mahomes moves really well and can probably fit that system. So he would be my next bet. He could make Noah Gray go away. Yeah, in a hurry as the tight end two in this offense. So yeah, I think my big takeaway with those tight ends is if any of those guys are available at the end of round three,

pretty happy to throw a dart there. Love any of them in round four, kind of scrambling to that. Definitely better than the running backs, wide receivers and quarterbacks available in that range. That's going to do it for our top 24 re-ranking. There will be a full top 40 with super flex rankings, one QB rankings and tight end premium rankings by Friday of this week.

Speaking of Friday next week, I will be in Memphis and you should be watching on. I think it's going to be on. It's going to be on Twitch for sure. Participating in a St. Jude creator fantasy football draft to help raise money for St. Jude. I'm going to be there on Tuesday, so we will not have a show on Tuesday. We will have a show, FFT Dynasty, a week from Friday.

So I'll tweet that out to remind you guys, but we will not talk to you next Tuesday. We'll talk to you next Friday. Thank you to Dan. Thank you to Harry. Thank you to everybody who was active in the chat. We'll talk to you next Friday. Thank you to Dan. Thank you to Harry. Thank you to everybody who was active in the chat. We'll talk to you next Friday. Paramount Podcasts.