Fantasy Football Today - Round 7-9 Wide Receivers: Finding League-Winners! (07/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: July 7, 2026Adam, Jamey, and Dave break down which WRs offer the best value in the middle rounds of your fantasy football draft and provide enough upside to win your league. They start with some group chat stats ...(6:43) before diving into news and notes including Chris Rodriguez fit in Jacksonville (13:15). Jumping into round 7 (18:46), the crew weighs the boom-or-bust upside of Alec Pierce and Quentin Johnston against the steady floor of Courtland Sutton, highlighting which profiles fit different draft strategies. In round 8 (28:15), can Chris Godwin have a bounce-back season? The guys also compare Josh Downs and Jayden Reed, before shifting to the Steelers offensive concerns with Michael Pittman & the rookie profile of Makai Lemon (41:44). Finally, in round 9 (47:41) how does Jakobi Meyers fare in a crowded Jaguars WR room? This episode is packed with all the insights you need to separate the sleepers from the busts before draft season arrives.Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcastsWatch FFT on YouTube SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on AppleFOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Look at a draft, a surprising breakout wide receiver.
Maybe a guy like Mackay Lemon, the rookie, Jaden Reed,
hopefully getting some more playing time.
Josh Downs.
How about Alec Pierce, Cortell?
Clinton Sutton, Quentin Johnston, Chris Godwin, Jacoby Myers, Juannell Robinson.
There are more.
These are just some of the wide receivers who are being drafted, according to Fantasy
Pro's PPR Consensus ADP in round seven through nine.
We welcome me to fantasy football today.
Adam Azor with Dave Richard.
What's up, Dave Richard?
I'm looking forward to this conversation because I think we're going to have some good depth
at the wide receiver position.
And these are the rounds where you can chase it versus the crappy running backs that were
around when we talked about them a day prior. Focus on these receivers. Jamie, is this just depth,
or do we have some league winners in round seven through nine, Jamie Eisenberg? There will be some
league winners, but I think you're drafting them for depth at the start. Fair. Yeah, and what's
interesting is that you're much further into the wide receiver pool than you are running backs.
We're talking about wide receivers 36 through 49 in 80%.
Whereas, what did we start with Tony Pollard yesterday?
He was running back 28.
And we finished with J.K. Dobbins, who was running back 38.
So round 7 starts with wide receiver 36.
Round 9 ends with wide receiver 49.
Round 9 ended with running back 36, or 38, excuse me.
So you're deeper into the wide receiver pool, but you still have really good players.
And guys, the first point.
I don't know why I was on.
The look when Thomas realized he was on,
what's amazing.
Oh, Thomas Schaeber, just show it up.
Let's talk about round seven through nine wide receivers.
Thomas just did a WTF when he realized it when he mouthed it out of out.
The most important thing for you to know about these wide receivers is that if you're going to get a guy who finishes top 24,
either per game or overall,
almost all of them,
the ones who come out of this group
and finish top 24,
almost all of them
averaged seven or more targets per game.
Last year, for example,
that was Chris Olave.
Stefan Diggs did not.
He was a rare exception,
but over the last nine seasons,
26 wide receivers drafted in this range
have been top 24 per game,
and 21 of them
have averaged at least seven targets per game.
So look at the list.
Sutton, Johnston, Pierce, Godwin, Pittman, Lemon, Michael Wilson, Jaden Reed, Downs, Pearsall,
Jacoby Myers, Addison, Wondell Robinson, Xavier Worthy.
Dave, who could average seven targets per game?
I don't know if I'm comfortable saying anybody that you've named can average seven targets per game.
I think the guys that could come closest might be on the same team.
It might be in Indianapolis because we know that Michael Pittman's gone,
leaves a ton of targets behind.
I think they're going to consolidate.
and I think Downs and Pierce could each get close to that number of seven targets per game.
Jamie, any candidates here?
Godwin.
I think depending on how you view Michael Wilson,
but I don't think I'll get to seven.
Wondell certainly could, but that's the time.
You know what, you're right.
Wondell absolutely could.
With Cardinal Tate, if he's legit, then no.
I think, you know, seven is probably the ceiling for most of these guys.
The problem with Wondale getting past.
seven and he's been past eight each of the last two years is that he just doesn't do a ton after
the catch. You're drafting them because of specifically the catches and the points you get with
him in full PPR. But I'm looking forward to talking to him. He's somebody I'm targeting.
Yeah, and he's one of the last guys in this group. He's wide receiver 48 and ADP. And remember,
I'd said that's to finish top 24. None of these guys are being drafted anywhere really near
that. So you don't need them to average seven targets per game in order to return value here.
All right, so we're going to get into these guys in just a moment.
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tell your friends, and let's do this. Group chat stats. Some fun fantasy football facts that you can
tell your...
Why you say it around the water cooler? Because you told me I stole it. You shamed me. I much prefer
water cooler stats. I like where you went with it. I like group chat stats better.
All right, group chat stats.
Your fantasy football group chat.
Go ahead and tell.
Tell them.
Why can it be like Slack chats?
No.
Only people at work.
Not everybody is Slack.
Yeah, come on.
Like what's app chats?
You can have a group chat on WhatsApp and on Slack.
These are group chat stats, Jamie.
What's the Greens?
You're starting to devolve into some other chat platforms that might not be suitable for this show.
All right.
Tell your group chat that Michael Wilson.
average 21.2 PPR fantasy points per game in his last 10 games.
That is basically what JSN averaged last year for the full season.
That's amazing.
It is amazing, but I don't think that that encapsulates who he is.
Like, you call me out all the time when I give a stat that you can further Azer stat.
Yeah, of course.
And there were a bunch of games that he played late in the year with Marvin Harrison,
Jr. Almost all of his big games came when Marvin Harrison Jr. was sideline.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. But it's just...
Seven games with him and Berset and Marvin. He was at 10.2 PPR points per game,
5.7 targets per game. Yeah. But, I mean, it's just amazing what he did. I mean, I don't
think there's any scenario where Marvin Harrison Jr. would have averaged 21.2 ppr.m.
I think that's kind of the point. And also, he was even better than Trey McBride in that
stretch. All right. Over the last.
three seasons, group chat.
Jaden Reed has 34 carries.
Six of them have gone for 20 or more yards.
He has twice as many 20-plus yard runs as Alvin Camara and Ashton Genti over the last three
seasons.
Genti only one year, but Camara, three years.
Also, Jaden Reed is second among wide receivers and fantasy points per target over the last
three years.
Now, number one is Jalen McMillan.
Number four is Tim Patrick.
But Reed actually has a lot of targets compared to those guys.
So I mentioned, and if you listen to the,
if you just watched the mailbag show,
I gave these stats,
but Jaden Reed has been one of the most efficient
wide receivers in football
since he entered the league.
Jamie, Cortland Sutton,
if he's going to be good this year,
and he's wide receiver 36 in ADP right now,
he needs to score touchdowns,
well, over the last three seasons,
Sutton is sixth in touchdowns
among wide receivers.
He's 15th in targets,
fifth in red zone targets,
12th in green zone targets,
third in end zone targets.
Do you think Cortland Sutton can keep that role
because that's not really been Jalen Waddle's strength
is the end zone targets,
whereas Cortland Sutton, 25 targets in the last three years,
25 touchdowns, 22 of them were thrown to the end zone.
I think he still leads the Broncos in touchdowns,
but he loses everywhere else because of Jalen Waddle.
So that's the thing that's going to save him is,
you're hoping that he becomes a version of Devante Adams
if you're going to still buy into Cortland Sutton,
but this is a good spot to take a chance on him, this range.
And Dave, Wondale Robinson has two straight seasons with 140 targets.
He was wide receiver 47 per game in 2024 and wide receiver 17 per game in 2025.
Both times he had 140 targets.
What changed?
He had a bit of a higher A dot.
He had more end zone targets.
He averaged more yards per catch.
But, you know, anybody getting 140 targets is a must draft player way before round nine.
I don't know if he'll get there again.
But it is amazing just how different his two.
seasons were. He's averaged
8.2 targets per game
in his last 38 games
in this offense. He was
drafted by Brian Dable. He
has followed Brian Dable to Tennessee.
The Titans receiving core added
Cardinal Tate in the draft.
They still have Calvin Redley. They still have a couple of
guys that they took last year who were
rookies. I think he's an easy
plug and play for the Titans offense.
And he'll be an easy short area target
for Cam Ward to lean on.
And it would not surprise me at least if he continued to average eight targets per game.
Man, that's a lot of targets.
Jordan Addison is another guy that's in this group.
We just talked about Wondale Robinson.
How about Jordan Addison?
Jordan Addison has ranked 55th or worse in targets per route run among wide receivers with 50 or more targets in all three of his NFL seasons.
So a lot of numbers there.
But the bottom line is Jordan Addison just does not command a lot of targets.
He needs to score touchdowns to be good.
and he's been pretty good at scoring touchdowns in two of three seasons.
And finally, Chris Godwin.
Now, real quick here, if you are watching the show live and you just watch the mailbag,
then you know we recorded the Wednesday mailbag before this show.
If you're listening, you're going to hear a lot of the same stuff about Chris Godwin
that I was on tomorrow on Wednesday's mailbag show that I'm about to say now.
But Chris Godwin was a top six wide receiver per game in all three formats in 2024.
he was not top 50 per game last year.
Jamie, who's the real Chris Godwin?
Somewhere in between.
You know, I'm curious how much he's going to line up inside
because that's typically been his best role
as playing the slot.
And so when you have a Mecca, Buka,
and you have Jalen McMillan,
and we'll see what Ted Hurst does,
and obviously new play caller and Zach Robinson,
where they put Godwin, I think, is going to matter a lot here.
So you're seeing a lot, you know, I mean, obviously,
we can't be naive to the fact that our audience only reads
and pays attention to us.
You know, you guys, I'm sure,
seeing a lot of other publications
that are hyping up Chris Godwin
as the best receiver in Tampa Bay,
and that makes some sense
because of what his rapport is
with Baker Mayfield and what his track record has been.
So I think this is a great spot
to take a chance on Chris Godwin.
I think he's going to exceed his ADP,
but I don't think he's going to be a top six fantasy receiver,
and I certainly know what he's going to be as bad as he was last year,
because as we've seen from him,
there is a track record,
now granted he's older,
of him almost taking two years to recover from significant injuries.
And so if that happens again,
then we're getting a pretty good version
of what Chris Godwin can be.
So in this spot, I would take a chance on him,
but I wouldn't be reaching for him much sooner than this.
Much earlier than this.
Yeah.
And you're right about the slot rate for Chris Gobwin.
It was about 48% last year,
which is low for him when he's been at his best.
He's got five really good to great PPR seasons.
His slot rate's been over 55% all those years.
All right, we only have one news item that I saw,
unless you want to throw in some others.
but Jeff Howe of the athletic says that we should be prepared for Chris Rodriguez
to be an important part of the Jacksonville offense.
Anyway, Dave, right now as we take a quick break from wide receivers,
Bejel Tootin is on Fantasy Pro is RB 24 and he's in round 5,
whereas Chris Rodriguez is RB 43 in round 12.
What's better value?
Tutin in round 5 or Rodriguez in round 12?
I guess it's Rodriguez in round 12, provided that he's healthy when training camps
starts, it sounds like he will be.
His profile suggests that he's a good short yardage goal line running back, but the
stats say Tutin was better in that role last year.
I would be nervous about those two becoming an ambiguous duo in the backfield.
We touched on this in the mailbag episode, but we didn't really speak too much on Jacksonville
being one of those backfields that you could potentially draft the pair and have a starter
each week.
I just don't know how effective the one starter will be because they could be very much like
what Chicago was last year, where there's just weeks where one of the running backs is great,
the other one leaves you hanging, and you don't know which one it's going to be from week to week.
It could go that way in Jacksonville.
Frank in the chat says, I'm totally out on Jacksonville's backfield.
This feels like such a mess, Jamie.
I mean, it's potentially a mess.
I mean, you know, you lose a guy like, you know, Travis E.T.N at the time, Travis H.N.
And they didn't really do a lot to replace him.
I'll go back to what I said yes, or the other show, whatever,
data about Alvin Camara and James Connor.
This feels like a destination for those guys or one of those guys
because it would add a veteran presence that has maybe the opportunity for a little more pop
than those two guys are certainly a better resume than those two guys.
But Chris Rodriguez, as we've talked about, has a history with Liam Cohen.
It's part of the reason why he was the fallback plan.
They did want J.K. Dobbins.
That was recently reported.
It was something that I heard as well.
And so, you know, if they went out and tried to get somebody else and failed,
then clearly that tells you, you know, a little bit about what they did.
They settled for somebody and Tutin could maybe not be the guy that they're hoping he can be.
But this is what they have right now.
This is what they're going to go to training camp with.
And obviously, it's a great offense.
You know, it's an offense that showed a lot of improvements and really, I think, helped Travis E.T.N.,
who, as we know, last year was one of the best values.
I think he was going in this range of running back.
So I'm still hopeful for both.
At this point with Rodriguez missing all of the offseason,
you know, Tuton's the one you want to draft first.
But I still think Chris Rodriguez is a great sleeper to target with a late round pick,
depending on where his ADP settles.
Travis ETN slash ACHAN is one of the biggest asterisks in ADP history
because they traded Tank Bigsby last year on September 8th.
So that's why A.C.N.
H.E.N. H.N. H. was going as late as he was.
round nine, I think, last year.
I don't know where he would have gone.
He still would have probably been a really good value, though.
I probably would have been, what,
like a fifth or sixth round pick
after the season he had been coming off?
Just speculation.
All right, that's their thoughts on the Jaguars backfield.
We'll take a break.
We'll come back and we'll get into Cortland Sutton,
Quentin, and Alec Pearson, round seven after this.
Beginning our round seven through nine
wide receivers discussion with round seven.
Be weird to begin with round nine, wouldn't it?
Cortland Sutton,
Quentin,
Johnston,
and Alec Pierce.
They are wide receivers
36 through 38
in ADP on Fantasy Pros.
This is PPR.
Dave,
how would you rank
Sutton, Johnston,
Pierce?
Pierce,
and then Sutton and then Johnston.
There's decent gaps
between each of them, too.
Okay.
Jamie?
Pierce,
Johnston, Sutton,
and Johnston, Sutton.
very close.
Would you guys make of Alec Pierce and his injury right now?
How difficult is that making your ranking of him, Jamie?
I'd probably be a little bit more excited about Pierce, but I think just looking at it is
he's one of the most hardest players to project because you're asking him to do something
that he's never done.
And a lot of his production last season came at the end of the year without Daniel Jones.
But obviously, no Michael Pittman.
The contract is clearly something that you have to buy into.
I believe in terms of his injury, he had the surgery when he did to make sure that there would be no issues for training camp.
So he should be fine.
Certainly for the start of the season, he should be fine.
This is a steal.
I mean, I haven't seen Alex Pierce going around seven in any draft I've done.
So I'm surprised that his ADP.
Like, he's, the fact that he's in this range to me speaks to the fact that he's hurt.
I think if he was healthy, no issues.
You know, we were drafting right after free agency and he signed that deal in terms of like drafting for real.
Like, we're talking about around five receiver.
Like that's the type of upside he has.
Man, he's so interesting because the guy was a second round pick in 2022.
Six, three, 211 pounds at the combine.
He ran a 4-4-1.
He's just always been pigeonholed as a deep guy at one of the highest A-DOTs in the NFL.
I believe Alec Pierce has led the NFL in yards per target and yards per catch two straight seasons.
but deep ball, deep ball, deep ball.
I wonder if he's going to have,
I wonder if he's going to play a different role this year
because he only had 84 targets in 15 games
on pace for 95 targets.
You can't get a bunch of targets
when your average depth of target is like 17 yards.
So will he play a different role
and how will he do with that role?
You know, it's, we can know who Cortland Sutton is at this point.
Johnston, Quentin Johnson also is going to apparently play a different role.
But Alec Pierce, Dave, I still think we don't really know what he's capable of.
And we don't know how effective he'll be in the shorter area role.
I just quickly looked and checked out what his receiving metrics were on throws of 18 or 15 or fewer air yards.
Excuse me.
And it ain't great.
His catch rate was 58%, one touchdown, 36 targets in total.
15 games, only 36 of his targets were 15 yards or closer.
through the air on the line of scrimmage.
And that's with a high catchable throw rate from his quarterbacks,
7.4 yards per target, 0.78 yards per route run.
This is nasty.
This isn't what you want from a receiver.
And so you've got to wonder, does that change if he gets more opportunities?
And you can't help but think that he will get more of those opportunities
because Michael Pittman walked out the door or was traded out the door with 111 targets from last year.
I know Josh Downs is going to take a lot of those targets away.
but Alec Pierce was just paid like a number one wide receiver.
I think they have to use them accordingly,
and it would make sense if they did.
We just don't have the evidence that he can succeed
on those short and intermediate routes.
Yeah.
Makes him a little bit tougher to trust,
and that's probably a part of the reason that along with Daniel Jones injury
is making people a little squeamish.
And I think that's why his ADP is what it is.
You have his projections on the YouTube.
website from Sportsline, which is 105 targets.
Like that's not ideal.
No, but here's the thing.
When you look at Christian Watson and Jameson Williams, who are going ahead of him, they are
guys who can get about 105 targets and still be, I don't think he's going to turn 105 targets
Alec Pierce into wide receiver 21 in PPR because I just don't think there's good enough catches
there.
But wide receiver like 27, 28, you know, Jamo has kind of been like that guy that you
you can get 105 targets be that efficient.
And Alec Pierce is even more efficient than him so far in his career.
I just think, like, to get 105 targets in full PPR,
and only the projection was for 58 catches,
I don't know how that's going to end up being wide receiver 21.
No, that projection is very close to what JMO did over the course of the 2025 season.
And on a per game basis, JMO was wide receiver 19.
And that's when receiver scoring was down.
Yeah, it was.
It was a bad year.
He might be able to cross over into top 24 territory.
I think reaching for Alec Pierce is a mistake.
I've got him ranked as around six wide receiver in full PPR.
That might be a little bit too high.
I just don't know how many other wide receivers I love more than him
because he does have gargantuan upside if he can connect on those intermediate throws
and they still throw downfield and Daniel Jones is okay.
And maybe that's too many ifs.
But there is upside for Alec Pierce to be better.
than what these projections suggest,
and certainly to get more than 105 targets
over the course of 17 games.
Okay, I'm just not going to draft Cortland Sutton in round seven.
There is just no way.
Because I really think that, you know,
when you,
I gave that stat about getting seven or more targets,
but the other stat is that about 22-ish percent of wide receivers
drafted in this range over the last nine years
have been top 24 guys.
And maybe about 10,
percent have been top 12.
You can find great players here.
I don't see any path to that for Cortland Sutton.
Honestly, even if Jalen Waddle got hurt, I don't know that he could do it.
Maybe.
He's going to be 31 in October.
So I'm just not drafting him.
I do like Quentin Johnson.
Round seven feels a little early.
Jamie, I know you like drafting Quentin Johnson.
Do you take him in round seven?
I would, yeah.
I mean, I think, again, this is going to be another guy that gets hyped up to a point
where he may be too rich to draft in the round six range.
But when you start to talk about the wide receiver numbers,
that's where I think it matters more.
So if you don't like the profile and you don't like the history,
and obviously there are things you can nipik about Quentin Johnson.
And I shouldn't say nipik.
You can obviously point out the flaws of what he's done in his profile
in the early part of his career.
I'm just banking on what I saw the first four games of the season when Joe Alt was healthy,
Mike McDaniel now being there and the things that he's saying about him
and how he wants to unlock him
and comparing him to Andre Johnson
and Julio Jones
the players that he's coached in the past
and I think that's a little bit
obviously hyperbole,
but you know,
you're still talking about a player
that is a former first round pick
that has huge upside.
And despite the struggles
the last two seasons,
if you want to call him struggles,
he scored eight touchdowns each of those two years.
And so this could be a guy
that similar to Pierce,
similar to James and Williams,
similar to Christian Watson,
you know, big play potential,
doesn't need a lot of targets.
If he starts to get those,
though,
then we could be looking at a guy
that can approach the top 24.
I don't think that's in the range of possibility.
I shouldn't say, I don't think that's going to happen,
but it's in the range of possibilities
that he can have an opportunity here to, you know,
really take off and just dominate in this offense
with McDaniel calling place.
Dave, do you agree with my take on Cortland Sutton
that he just doesn't really have a lot of upside?
What is the upside?
It's that Jalen Waddle doesn't perform expectations
or he gets hurt and then he's forced into being back
in the same role that he was in last year.
and last year that role resulted in almost 13 ppr points per game.
And that's probably okay if we're talking about a round seven wide receiver.
It's great in round seven, but that's if Waddle's not good or hurt.
There are at least four wide receivers that I've found, five, make it five wide receivers
who last year had at least seven touchdowns and under seven targets per game.
So minimum of seven touchdowns and under seven targets per game, only one of them averaged more than 13 ppr points per game.
So if Sutton is seeing a downturn in targets, but it's still going to be a red zone threat,
I think you plan accordingly and expect them to be in that 11 or 12 full PPR range.
That's okay for round seven.
I don't love it, but I don't love a lot of, I like more of these receivers in like that round eight,
round nine range, then I do pushing them up into round seven.
Okay.
Well, except you said for Pierce, you think this is a good spot for you.
Pierce is in that.
I think Pierce is in a good spot in round seven.
And I think some of the other players, if you're looking on the screen on YouTube,
round nine, Pierce, all, Wondale, I think Addison and Jacal, like, I think almost all
the round nine receivers, if we're getting those guys in round nine, I would pass on most
of the receivers in round seven and eight to go after those guys in round nine.
All right. Let's go to round eight.
Round nine is Pearsall, Jacobi Myers, Addison, Wondale, and Worthy.
Round eight, six wide receivers from wide receivers 39 through 44 in ADP.
Chris Godwin, Michael Pittman, Mackay Lemon, Michael Wilson, Jaden Reed, and Josh Downs.
Chris Godwin, Michael Pittman, Michael Pittman, McCoy Lemon, Michael Wilson, Jaden Reed, Josh Downs.
Jamie, who are your three favorites in that group?
God was my favorite player on this entire list.
So he's one.
Downs would be two and Wilson would be three.
Godwin,
Downs, Michael Wilson, ahead of Pitman, Lemon, and Reed.
Dave, how about you?
It's Godwin, Downs, Wilson.
Oh, interesting.
Did you know Michael Wilson average 21.2
PPR points per game in his last 10?
Also...
I heard that fairly misleading stat somewhere.
Yeah. Also, Michael Wilson, much, much better playing out wide than in the slot. His slot rate was a lot higher with Marvin Harrison, Jr. on the field. Okay. Jamie, why is Chris Gobwin your favorite player, not just in round eight, but in all of these rounds, round seven through nine. So ahead of Sutton, ahead of Johnson, ahead of Alex Pierce, Chris Godwin.
I mean, we've talked about this a little bit already. I think he goes back to being the slot receiver for Tampa Bay. I think he's going to be healthy compared to what he was last year. You're talking about,
Jalen McMillan,
Emeka,
Ted Hurst,
young players
with a lot of
upside,
but very
unproven track
records here.
And Godwin
and Baker Mayfield
have a very
strong rapport
and strong history
together.
So I think the
value for Godwin
is fantastic.
There's clearly a lot
of downside,
as we saw last
season.
And to your point,
he may be done.
He may be
washed up.
That certainly
could be the scenario
here.
But when you're
starting to look at
targets per game,
I think he could
lead this entire group.
Production, past history,
I think he's,
you know,
resume speaks for itself.
And,
And so if he's healthy, and I think Tampa Bay, despite the fact that he was hurt last, I think it was last year when they gave him the contract extension, they still feel really comfortable with him as being a focal point of his offense.
And I think that's going to happen.
So I'm glad, I'm thrilled to take chance on him if I get him around eight.
I would take him as early as round seven.
Okay.
And you said Josh Downs after that.
Yeah, I think Downs, it's between Downs and Tyler Warren, they're going to lead the team in targets.
I think both guys out target out Pierce.
And so how much of a big increase do we see for Downs,
who averaged over 12 ppr points per game in 2024,
started last year injured?
Again, no Michael Pittman.
He's the easy guy to fill that role
and be the short area guy along with Warren for Daniel Jones.
Jones coming off the injury.
How much is he going to throw down field to Alec Pierce consistently,
at least the early part of the season?
So I think Downs is a huge winner with Pierce gone,
probably a bigger winner than Alex Pierce.
Although Pierce's contract,
I'm sure he'll take that every day a week.
I don't think
I think Downs is trying to earn that contract.
Yeah.
I believe he's not getting that year.
I don't know, dude.
He puts together a monster year for Indianapolis and he can...
It's going to have to be like a Montrose Brown monster year
for him to get that type of thing.
What's the difference, though, between Josh Downs and Jaden Reed?
I think Jaden Reed is coming off a really bad year
where he got hurt almost immediately,
played hurt, you know.
But we say they've lost Romeo Dobbs,
Dantavian Wicks.
Both of them are very high slot guys,
slot percentage, very high,
who don't play enough snaps, really.
But Jaden Reed has just, I think,
been a better version of Josh Downs.
I think based on...
It's been a more efficient version of Josh Downs.
Well, look at his last two years.
You have to go back two years to see it, though.
Yeah, okay, last year stunk,
but the first two years of Jaden Reed's career
were pretty good.
I think the biggest thing for me
I know Josh Downs is going to be on the field a lot.
I don't know if Jaden Reed is going to be on the field a lot.
And the biggest reason for that is they spent a first round pick on Matthew Golden,
and Christian Watson is clearly their alpha, no matter what LaFleur will say.
He's their best receiver.
And so Jaden Reed figures to be more as their slot receiver.
And when you have Tucker Crafts and the personnel groupings that they're going to use,
if they're not in three receiver sets,
I don't think Jane Reed's on the field a lot.
Josh Downs is going to play outside this year.
There's no way around it.
He's going to move around.
He's going to be a different type of receiver.
They said as much.
And so I think Jane Reed's value is awesome.
But if you're telling me,
I have to take Jane Reed over Josh Downs,
I'd rather have downs.
One point.
Is Jane Reed who you go after if you don't get downs?
He's one of the guys I would consider.
But I mean, you know, we're talking,
when you're in wide receiver 44,
depending on how you draft,
you know, if you're putting yourself
in a position where,
you're drafting these guys to have to be your starters,
you may be making a mistake.
Right.
Like, I'd rather be talking about these guys the way I draft as one of my top
reserves, or at worst case, in the flex conversation.
Just one point in Reed's favor is not necessarily overdone.
I would take downs over Reed.
He's scored in 2023 and 2024, 1.3 and 1.3 and 1.4 points per game
and rushing totals.
It's a little scary
because you don't know
if he's going to get that,
but he's been so damn good
with the ball in his hands.
Probably two of it.
You probably shouldn't expect that.
I mean, we were calling him Debo-Ly.
Yeah, I think you should expect that.
I don't know.
9.1 yards per carry.
Debo-Samuel in those last three years
has averaged 4.5 yards per carry.
No, but in terms of opportunities.
I think the Packers would be doing themselves
a disservice if they don't give him those touches.
And, you know, LaFleur two owners meetings ago,
when he was coming off to 2023,
season was, you know, saying as much. Like, you know, he's, he's a dynamic player. Part of that, though,
is why he got hurt, you know, was just maybe he's not built to do all these extra things. I hope
that's not the case, but you never know. But in the case of Reed that's in his favor versus
downs, his quarterback is much better. His offense is probably much better. And I think, you know,
if he was on the field a lot more and did stay healthy and got those chances and he was, you know,
put him on the Colts right now, then it's probably a better situation for him just in terms of playing time.
But again, you know, does he make more sense if you're the Packers to play him as an outside receiver in whatever spot over Christian Watson or Matthew Golden?
I would think they look at it and probably say no.
Now they paid him.
But again, draft capital, production, they need Christian Watson to win.
They need him to stay healthy.
And I think they need Matthew Golden to sort of justify the draft pick.
So he's going to probably get a little bit more opportunities to play just in terms of playing time than I think Jane Reed does at least early in season.
I'm a little surprised that you guys had Michael Wilson third.
Again, the group of six wide receivers were Godwin, Pitman, Lemon, Wilson,
Jaden Reed, and Downs.
Jamie said Godwin, Downs, Wilson.
Dave, you said Godwin, Blank, Wilson.
Who was the second one?
Downs.
Okay.
So you both had Godwin, Downs, Wilson.
I'm a little surprise because Michael Wilson was obviously amazing at the end of last season.
But even in that 10-game stretch or seven, what was it, seven-game stretch?
whatever.
Eight games.
Last eight games,
the average 21.2 points per game.
Even in that eight game stretch,
there were three games
where Marvin Harrison Jr.
played, right?
Week 13,
Marvin Harrison Jr. played 61% of the snaps.
Michael Wilson had a 13% target share.
Week 16,
Marvin Harrison Jr. played 51% of the snaps.
And Michael Wilson had a 16% target share.
Week 17, Marvin Harrison Jr.
played, oh, I'm sorry.
those target chairs are when Harrison was on the field.
Week 17, Marvin Harrison Jr. ran 13 routes.
When he was on the field, you did have four targets for Michael Wilson,
which was a 40% target share.
But even in the midst of this incredible run,
as soon as Marvin Harrison was on the field,
Michael Wilson was pretty much doing nothing.
So compared to Mackay Lemon, who's got a great opportunity,
Jane Reed, who we just talked about,
Michael Pittman, who I will not draft in any leagues.
I don't know.
You're going to have a pivot?
No, I really cannot see myself.
I like him better than Metcalf.
I'm definitely not drafting Metcalf, but no, I'm not a Pittman guy.
Dave, yeah, I don't know.
I'm a little surprised Wilson was third for you.
He's third, but he's also ranked 45th amongst all wide receivers.
So I can't sit here and say that I'm a big proponent of drafting Michael Wilson,
but you can't deny what you saw in film last year.
you have to hope that the new coaching staff,
and for what it's worth,
Michael LeFleur has said that he views Michael Wilson
in the same type of role as Puka Nakuha.
And I kind of get it when you watch Michael Wilson play.
He's very physical.
He's got good for his size,
linear speed.
He's got decent quickness.
Not sure he's got the same type of hands as Pukunakua,
but then again, who does?
Puka is just great out about everything.
And he's a great fit for that offense.
I worry about there being a target crunch that remains.
And unless LaFleur is just completely done with one of Harrison or McBride,
I'm worried that there's going to be modest at best target volume for Michael Wilson from week to week
and that he will not put up numbers like he did last season when he had so many opportunities,
most of which coming when Marvin Harrison was off the field.
So I think just the biggest thing for Wilson is, and I,
agree with almost everything Dave said.
Like, Godwin could be great.
Pittman may be the best receiver for the Steelers.
Maybe Mikhail M.
It is A.J. Brown. Maybe J.N. Reid is the best receiver for the Packers.
Maybe Josh Downs is the best receiver for the Colts.
Alec Pierce, Quinn, Johns, Cordon, Sutton, all these guys.
One guy on this list, average over 20 p.PR points per game for a stretch last year.
For a stretch?
20?
For that stretch.
Oh, oh, Michael.
Oh, sorry.
know why I thought you were on Michael.
He was referencing your set.
I thought you were talking about Michael Pitman for whatever.
Yes, Michael Wilson.
Yes.
And so, unbelievable.
This is where I haven't ranked as well.
It's in the 40s.
It's not with the expectation of him doing that again by any stretch.
It's not with him being the best receiver on the Cardinals.
I still think that's Marvin Harrison.
But what if?
And that's the reason you're drafting him is the what if.
What if what we saw last year is makes him the best receiver, not receiving talent,
not better than Shane McBride, best receiver, better than Marvin Harrison,
who's going, I'm assuming in round five or six,
what if Michael Wilson is Puka Nakua in the role,
not the production, but in the role?
Like, just those type of ifs makes you want to gravitate toward him
and why some people think Michael Wilson's better than Marvin Harrison,
because Michael Wilson did something Marvin Harrison, we've been waiting for.
So if he does get those opportunities,
he's not getting over 13 targets per game because that's what he was averaging when
when Marvin Harrison was out.
if he gets just more chances and becomes a guy,
especially if Jacoby Brissette starts the majority of the season,
look, there's every which way this can go bad.
Michael Wilson's track record in history suggests when other guys are there,
he's just not the same.
But the if,
if you're talking about your fourth receiver,
your fifth receiver,
he's done things that nobody else on this list has
and may ever ever accomplish in those games that he did last season
when Harrison was out.
Yeah, the what if?
I mean, my biggest takeaway from what you usually,
just said the what if is that I'm not drafting Marvin Harrison.
That's fair.
He's going, yeah, early round six.
I would rather have Harrison because I think he, you know, again.
No, but at a cost, you'd rather have Harrison in round six than Wilson and round eight?
If it's only a two round difference and yes, I'd rather have Harrison.
I'd rather have Harrison.
I just, you know, I don't want to pay the round six price for Harrison.
I'd rather Harrison than Wilson.
I don't know about the cost.
Right.
I'd rather have Wilson at this cost.
We got to take a break.
I'm sorry, Dave.
I've got to take a break.
We'll talk about Lemon and Pittman when we come back,
and then we'll get to the round nine guys.
We'll be right back on fantasy football today.
Jamie, when I said it wasn't drafting Michael Pittman,
you seemed surprised.
Do you like him as wide receiver 40?
In this range.
I think I haven't met 41.
No, I'm sorry.
I've met Catf 41.
I haven't met 44.
I think Pittman could be the best receiver for the Steelers.
It wouldn't shock me.
I mean, again, the way that he plays,
the routes that he's going to run,
the type of quarterback Aaron Roder,
is right now. The only saving grace for D.K. Metcalf for me is McCarthy's offense is vertical.
And is Aaron Rogers at this age able to do the things I think McCarthy would like to do and certainly
would like D.K. Metcalfe to do. Pitman just seems to be a better fit. And so you lose Kenneth
Gamewell. Obviously, Jalen Warren, Rico Dahl are going to do some things in the passing game.
And, you know, there's going to be other players that step up and perform. But for the cheap investment,
still the production. He's still young enough. He still had a good enough year last year.
He's had some really good years the past couple of seasons. I think Pittman could be one of the biggest
surprises this year. Now, not Chris Olavé surprise where you're getting him very late and he's a superstar.
But like, man, I should have taken Michael Pittman sooner. Or why didn't I value Michael Pittman more?
Like he could be one of these guys we're talking about at the end of the 2026 season. Like in PPR,
I think if you're again, looking at the sports line projection, six touchdowns feels about the ceiling.
I would probably take the over on the 6-700, 673 yards.
But like 77, 800, that range, like that type of guy, like, he could be a really good number three fantasier's here.
Okay.
I'd take Lemon over him, though.
Oh, yeah, more upside.
Dave, Lemon or Pitman?
Pitman.
You sure?
Yeah.
Sorry.
We've talked about him so much.
that I felt like I needed to play the music.
And the fact that he's on the Steelers now,
and he is legitimately the...
Pitman!
Thank you, Michael Pittman.
All makes sense.
Michael Pittman said that he was playing a role last year
that basically just doing what the Colts were asking him to do.
ESPN had a note that said,
Next-Gen stats had Michael Pittman with 47% of his routes
through Week 15 being in-breakers,
which was the highest rate of his career.
So the point of this whole spiel.
Get used to that, Michael.
Well, no, the point of this whole spiel
is that he felt like he was going to be used more versatility.
With more versatility?
Yeah, in Pittsburgh.
Be more versatile.
Sure.
Someone's saying, like, Adam hates the Steelers.
Adams hate for the Steelers is real.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not going to deny it.
I just don't think Aaron Rogers is good enough,
especially his deep balls.
And he doesn't.
want to get hit and he gets rid of the ball super quickly. That's why I will have zero D.K.
METCAF on my team. Right. Makes all the sense in the world. I mean,
MECF had actually a really low A dot last year. Just, that's what he wants that. And that's
Metcalf we're talking about. He turned him into a low A dot guy. All right. Let's talk about
pitman. Let's talk about round nine, Pierceall. I thought you want the lemon. Oh, yeah. Okay. I mean,
I thought I kind of did, but sure. What do you want to say about Jamie, give me an outlook on lemon.
Well, I mean, we know A.J. Brown is gone. So that's 121 targets that are left on the table. I think we're all hoping Devante Smith gets the bulk of that, but that's not realistic. And so how much will Lemon stand out ahead of Hollywood Brown, Dantabian Wicks? There's one other guy, I forget, that group and be the first round talent and produce like he's capable of. And it's just an unknown. I don't like the fact that he was hurt in minicamp. So hopefully he'll be healthy.
but I mean, my gosh, the easiest comp in the world is a Monroe St. Brown.
And if he could play like that and be that type of guy for Jalen Hertz.
And I think it's just it's an easy narrative, but I think it's a silly narrative to say that Jalen Hertz won't throw over the middle of the field.
He definitely has done that. He will do that. He'll continue to do that.
I think the new offense will force him to probably do it a little bit more.
And that's where I think the comfort factor comes in.
But, I mean, there's such huge opportunity here for Mikhail Lemon.
So when you're talking about upside plays in this, I'm my guess Jordan Tyson is probably around.
six pick based on his ADP.
Wouldn't shock me if
Mackay Lemon is better. Just again, looking
at what their profiles are and
quarterbacks and roles in offense. I think
Jordan Tyson's a great prospect. I think his role in his
offense is going to be fantastic, so it's not to knock him,
but Lemon may end up just being in a better spot.
And for every reason to love
Devante Smith, he's never
had to be the alpha for a full season.
It's three games over the course of the last two years that he's
been that guy and he's been fantastic.
But Mackay Lemon may end up being
the best receiver of Philadelphia. I don't
think that's the case. You should not draft to the case.
I'm not saying that, but there is
that potential for a guy being drafted in the first
round for a team like Philadelphia
trading up to go get him, knowing they're going to
get rid of AJ Brown, understand him. But
trading up to go get Mackay Lemon for a reason
and I think they're going to feature him as much as they
possibly can. Okay.
MacI Lemon is a round eight pick as you see.
Carnell Tate is an
early round six pick. Jordan Tyson
is a late round six pick.
Who's got the best value of those three rookie receivers, Dave?
Carnell Tate, early round six,
Jordan Tyson, late round six,
and Mackay Lemon, round eight.
Tyson is the worst.
I think Tyson and I think Lemon are closer to round nine or round ten.
So by default, I will take Carnell Tate.
Jamie, best value?
I'll take the value of Lemon.
I would rather have Tate over these guys,
but going back to the Cardinals guys,
I would pay the two-round difference for Marvin Harrison over Michael Wilson in this case.
I would rather take Lemon two rounds later than Jordan Tyson.
All right.
Now we go to round nine.
Round nine.
Ricky Pearsall is wide receiver 45.
Jacobi Myers, Jordan Addison, Wondale Robinson, Xavier Worthy.
Ricky Pearsall, Jacoby Myers, Jordan Addison, Wondale Robinson, Xavier Worthy.
I think I have every wide receiver.
at least one round higher.
You really like this round, huh?
I do.
I love it.
These were the receivers I was thinking about
when we started the show
and I thought about,
all right, these are receivers
that could be potential wide receiver threes
for your fantasy team
and you're getting them
in the middle of your draft.
Would you say you're on cloud nine?
It's not quite seventh heaven.
Yeah, but eight is great.
It is great.
We're on cloud nine.
Okay.
Who do you like the best, Dave?
Who are your top three?
Pearsall, Myers, Addison, Wondale, worthy.
I believe that I have Wondale in full PPR ranked the highest of this group.
And it's based on everything that we've already talked about,
the fact that he's not sharing with a tremendous alpha.
And even if he was, he did it in 2024 with Malik Neighbors.
And he still had huge target volume.
And his role has changed since then.
And he's probably a little bit better of a wide receiver now than he was two years ago.
Pierceall's next, but the argument is all upside-based.
And then I've got Addison and Myers basically back-to-back.
I currently have Addison one spot ahead.
I could see Myers being a little bit safer,
and I might end up putting Myers ahead of Addison.
Myers is another guy.
I'm just not drafting.
There isn't a great upside case to make for him unless it's all contingency-based.
Brian Thomas doesn't put it all together.
Parker Washington was the flash in the pan.
Jaguars have no choice but to up the targets for Jacobi Myers who could handle it.
But last year in Jacksonville, last year in Jacksonville, 10 games, 11 PPR points per game, 6.5 targets per game.
It's a little tough to see him being that much better this year.
Yeah, I think it's a, I'm trying to, of the last six games when.
Brian Thomas Jr. came back after the ankle injury. Myers had a 25% target share.
Parker Washington missed one of those games, played less than 56% of the snaps in three of the
five games he played. So there is that. But Jacoby Myers definitely was a big part of the offense.
And he's a good player. He'll probably outperform his ADP. ADP wide receiver 46.
He does every year. Yeah, he'll probably outperform that. I just, I don't know.
If I'm going to buy into Parker Washington, and I am to a degree,
I just can't really get excited about Jacoby Myers.
I don't know.
This is a good round, but I personally think these guys deserve to be behind most of the players in front of them.
Doesn't sound like Dave does.
Jamie, how do you feel about it?
Pearsall, Myers, Addison, Wondale, Worthy.
Pearsall and Robinson should definitely go ahead of some of the guys in round.
eight. I think just looking at
Robinson,
the fact that he's still tied to
Daibol is important. I think
the fact that Carnotate has
still to prove something is
important. I don't think Robinson
matches anything close to his targets the last
two years. I just don't think that's possible
with Cam Ward and the office
are going to run in Tennessee.
But it could happen. And Pierceall
is really just based on hope.
You know, so can he
ever, you know, it's almost like what
you know, I was saying about Michael Wilson, like, you know, totally different.
I shouldn't say it.
Pearsall is the hope that you get the type of player that we've seen flashes of.
And so if that ever materializes, and again, he's had a hard time staying healthy.
But age-wise, he's sharing the field with a 30-plus-year-old Mike Evans, a 30-plus-year-old
George Kittle coming off an Achilles injury, and he's got the longest tenure of the, you know, top receiving options,
of the wide receivers who are going to play because stripling's a rookie and Evans and
and Christian Kirk are new to the team.
So hopefully Pierceall can just stay on the field and start to produce.
But I think Jordan Addison is an interesting case because we keep saying, oh, Justin Jefferson
was great in the Carson-Wenz games.
Well, so was Jordan Addison.
You know, he played really well when it wasn't J.J. McCarthy.
And so hopefully Kyler Murray's presence and, you know, I hope not being ruined by Joan Jennings' presence.
But, you know, Jordan Addison can have an opportunity here to, you know, play at a high level,
hopefully and deliver on some of the things that we've seen from him, like you alluded to,
whether it was the nailback or this show.
A lot of it has been touchdown related and what he's accomplished, but that's still something
to gravitate toward.
So I think a lot of these guys on each round on this list have the potential to pop.
But in terms of the round nine guys, you're hoping Wondell Robinson targets.
Like he's, to me, just a cheap version of what we're expecting from Parker, Washington,
and Josh Downs.
And you can get him, you know, significant later than Washington and even later than Downs here.
And Pierce-all is more just hope.
I do think the Jacksonville scenario is very intriguing because we're going to sit here and say,
if Brian Thomas does this, if Parker Washington does that and whatever Travis Hunter provides,
like Jacobi Myers could just be the constant presence for this offense.
Like you said, he played a lot.
I think that's going to continue because the trade for him and the contract extension that they gave him.
I think Meyer stays on the field probably more than we want.
So we'll see how that matters more so for maybe Thomas and Hunter,
because I do think Parker Washington stays on the field quite a bit as well.
Myers is the kind of guy to me that has a really good five-game stretch.
It never really puts it together for a full season, I guess.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
No, I don't see him that way.
He has one year in his career.
He's 29.
He'll be 30 in November.
Schobey Myers has one year in his career with more than 866 yards.
He's usually in the 50-50 to 55 yards per game year.
He had one really good year, 2024, with the Raiders.
He averaged 68.5 yards per game, pardon me.
When was that?
After he was traded, right?
Right.
Yeah, mostly.
So he's had like half-year splits that are pretty good.
Right.
Yeah.
And so it's not five games.
It's like double that.
Okay.
Fair.
But it's like, it's something needs to happen in order for that split to reveal itself.
And that's what I was kind of getting at with Jacksonville.
If everybody stays healthy for the majority of the year and BTJ is better than he was last year,
then, you know, it's the term Jamie's been using for 19 years.
It's steady Eddie.
He's probably in that 10 PPR range.
Okay.
Hmm.
Let's talk about Xavier Worthy.
We haven't really gotten to him.
Didn't really get to see a lot of Xavier Worthy last.
season, at least the healthy version of Xavier Worthy.
He got hurt in week one.
When he came back, he wasn't running a normal route tree.
He was limited by the injury.
He finished his rookie season very strongly, but mostly, if not all, without Rishi Rice.
So, I guess all.
Jamie, how much hope do you have for Xavier Worthy, the last of these wide receivers in
round nine, wide receiver 49 in ADP?
the chiefs obviously have a lot of faith in Xavier Worthy because you got Rashi Rice who went to jail and had another knee procedure and has all kinds of potential red flags surrounding his off-field stuff.
Chavez Kelsey is 35 years old, going to be 36 in October, and they didn't do anything.
They went out and they got Cyrus Allen.
They didn't do anything to help this receiving corps.
And so I think that speaks to that they are hoping, expecting, needing Xavier Worthy to play at a higher level.
Now, that doesn't mean he's going to be a great fantasy receiver because we haven't seen him do it consistently.
And there's still, as of now, Kelsey back, rice, available, healthy, all things ready to go.
So where does that leave him on a team that seemingly wants to run the ball a lot more after what they did
this offseason and going get Kenneth Walker and Amar Di Mercado and drafting Emmett Johnson.
So, plus you have Mahomes coming off an injury.
So I think Worthy is appropriately priced.
If you want to take him as early as round seven, I get it.
If Rice has another problem, health-related or off-field related, then his ADP will explode
and Worthy will hopefully play at a higher level.
But that's the scenario that we went through last year and he couldn't stay on the field to
open the season.
So Tyquan Thornton and these other guys are going to have to probably play
more than I'm sure the Chiefs want
and probably more than fantasy managers want.
But I think Xavier Worthy is a good late round flyer
just with the hope of maybe he can live up to the potential.
I kind of, you know, again, I said this yesterday
with a couple of guys.
To me, Xavier Worthy and Matthew Golden or the Spider-Man mean.
Like there's so much upside, so much potential
will it ever materialize.
That's what we're waiting to see.
By the way, Travis Kelsey wishes he were 35, about to turn 36.
He is 36.
about to turn 37.
Sorry.
Did you hear you got married?
I did.
You know, I was going to, I didn't want to bog the showdown, but I was going to say,
hey, I got a good bit for you guys of I was going to do, I was going to make David B,
Travis Kelsey and you be Taylor Swift, and I was going to marry you as Bobby Boucher.
Oh, because Adam Seller married them, right?
Right, right.
That sounded like the worst skid ever until you talked about Bobby Boucher.
Do you, do you, Mitt, Mitt, McCarthy, take Taylor Swift?
Like, I take Vicky Valancourt to be my lofty wife,
but I just couldn't think of, like, the funny stuff to add to it.
Yeah, I don't even know what I would say as Taylor Swift.
It's not a bad premise.
I like where you're going with that.
Again, these round nine wide receivers are Pierceall,
Jacobi Myers, Jordan Addison, Wondale Robinson,
and Xavier Worthy.
I did see somebody, like, post on Twitter.
Like, he said to Taylor Swift, like,
do you take Travis Kelsey, blah, blah, blah, blah, stuff.
And then he turned to Kelsey and, like, skibbidoo.
You know, like these ups.
Just make them laugh.
Yeah, I like this group here.
And wide receivers fun, right?
It's weird because we're coming off this year.
We say it all the time, bad year for wide receivers, bad year for wide receivers.
Yet here we are talking about wide receivers 45 through 49 in round nine and being like,
man, I can get behind these guys.
And there may not be that big of a difference between round nine and round seven or maybe even round six.
that's a good question.
How big of a difference is there between round seven and round nine,
round seven being Sutton, Johnston, and Pierce,
round nine being Pierce, All Myers, Addison, Wondale, worthy.
But this is the blob.
Right.
So, like, it's almost wide receiver 30 through 50.
Like, you can make strong arguments pro and con for each of these guys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's probably closer to, like, 40 through,
55, something like that.
And so to me, it just comes down to who do you like?
Who do you think has a chance?
Who's got huge upside and maybe a safe floor to go along with it?
Those are the guys you gravitate towards.
Again, the stats would say who has huge upside is basically the same question as who can
get seven targets per game.
Right.
Okay.
So answer that question.
And we did that to start the show.
Yeah, but like Sutton, Johnston, Pierce.
Addison, maybe worthy, maybe Michael Wilson, like,
Pierce all, like, that could be touchdowns more so the targets that save them.
For sure.
Yeah, but they're going to need to score a hell of a lot of touchdowns to make up for a lack of targets.
Man, Godwin, what a roller coaster I've been on with Chris Godwin.
Last year was a roller coaster.
Remember the one game he came back, the first time he came back and he looked unreal.
And then every other game after that, he looked terrible.
remember that being the case. I remember him getting a ton of targets, but us not necessarily thinking he looked unreal.
I thought he looked good in that first came back. Remember we had an 80-yard touchdown and Adam hated it?
Go. He's so slow. He finished the year with five and a half targets per game and he averaged about 11 ppr. I think a little more than 11 ppr points per game. So if you think he can get to six and a half targets per game, I think he's one of those guys that safe floor decently high ceiling.
I don't know about a mega ceiling, but a good solid top 24 type ceiling.
It's not going to take much for me to be back on the Chris Godwin bandwagon.
I just need to hear that he's healthy.
So I know he's healthy.
Have you heard otherwise?
No, no.
I want to hear something like I just wasn't myself last year.
Now I'm fully back.
And then I really think he could be one of the true steals of the draft.
Now he could say that and not mean it.
But put it this way.
If he is back to being at the full strength of what he was in 2024,
when he was the third best wide receiver per game in PBR,
Chris Godwin is going to be the best value in fantasy.
I mean, Evans is gone.
Evans being gone is such a huge deal because this guy got all of the end zone
and red zone and green zone targets.
This is who Baker Mayfield looked at all the time.
That guy being off the field is a huge deal.
Right, which is why you're hoping that's a Bucca,
but still, Godwin could easily be that type of time.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, but right, you are hoping it's a Bucca.
But like you said, it could be Jaila McMillan.
You know, he's...
Could be.
When those guys were hurt at the end of 2024, he was amazing.
One other thing about that is that Baker Mayfield
went from 7.9 yards per attempt to 6.8.
He threw for, or the team threw for 750 fewer yards
and 15 fewer touchdowns.
When you look at bounce back wide receivers,
you need bounce back quarterbacks to get that.
not always, but that's like a sort of a cheat code.
I think the bucks could probably not going to get back to the 2024 levels,
but certainly can be better than they were in 2025.
I was just real life scenario.
I took a mecca, Buka in round five, four of the fishbowl.
And through round six, I did not have a quarterback yet.
And I was waiting to see because I'm picking two.
So it was coming back the other direction.
The manager picking at one also did not have a quarterback yet.
I was like, I'm going to take Derek off because I already committed to Gibbs and Leporta,
but Baker was my fallback option to just sort of, you know, marry him with Abuca.
And then I was going to try and see if I get Gobbin on the way back.
I have so many questions.
First, the point of clarification.
Earlier I said D.K. Metcalf had a low A.D.D.R.R.
Actually, it wasn't that low, but it was a career low for him.
But it wasn't a super low A. Dot.
I have so many questions.
You're in the Scott Fish Bowl.
You don't have a quarterback.
It's a Super Flex League.
So it's unusual than I have a quarterback in round six.
I am on pick 13 of the Scott Fishbowl.
How the hell are you in round five or six already?
What is going on?
This just draft started yesterday.
Where are you?
Eight.
We're moving.
We're cooking.
It's almost your advantage, Adam, to be in a slower draft.
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
Yeah.
Way more ADP information comes in that can help guide you.
I mean, not just that, but I have a draft to look forward to for a while.
I don't understand.
That's not having a rookie draft to look forward to.
You have happened at some point.
You know, people in the Scott Fishville,
hey, come on, let's hurry up right.
Yeah, it's July 7th.
We have not had one person be like,
oh, you're on the clock, you got to go.
Like, this has been very organic.
First time this happened, it's very fun.
I think it's not fun.
I think you're, I think you're, I think what you're doing.
I got a lot of drafts coming up.
I think what you're doing is terrible.
All right, everybody.
Thanks so much for watching and listening.
I get very impatient.
So, like, I have to stare at the thing.
constantly because I don't want to miss my picks.
You want to hear what happened with me?
I don't know if this actually...
All right.
So last night, I played tennis,
and I was, like, on deck in the Scott Fish Bowl.
So I put Trey McBride.
It's massive bonuses for tight ends.
I put Trey McBride in my queue.
Bowers was already off the board.
And I forgot about the league.
And I log on at, I don't even know,
midnight or something.
It was like 10.30 after the soccer game.
And I said, oh,
and it said the draft was paused.
And Drake May had been selected
and the commissioner had removed Drake May from the pick.
And it was the pick before me, but I thought it was me.
And I wrote, oh, damn, and I auto picked.
I had McBride in my queue.
I figured it would select him.
I'm sorry, everyone.
Apologies for holding everyone up.
And then someone said, no, someone who didn't,
someone didn't pick, they were removed
and they're looking for a replacement now.
So I go, oh, gotcha.
Well, then never mind.
I definitely do not have Trey McBride in my queue.
I hate McBride.
So I totally gave away who I was going to pick.
And of course, the guy got added.
Why would you do that?
Why would you do that?
Because I thought that I auto picked Drake,
I thought I was on the clock.
And they paused.
I had somebody in my queue,
not who you had in your queue.
Well, it doesn't matter because I thought.
Have you played fantasy before?
I thought it was paused on my pick.
I didn't realize there was the pick before me.
So I thought I was on the clock.
I was just going to take Trey McBride.
And anyway, they added the guy and he took McBride.
So I don't know if you saw my chat or not,
but it's probably because of you.
I mean, you're the fantasy expert in there, right?
I guess.
I don't know if there are others,
but I don't even know if these people know who I am.
Everybody knows who you are.
That's definitely not true.
We'll see.
You're Dan Schneier's driver.
I know you as Dave Azer's little brother.
There you go.
So is my mom.
All right, well, uh,
we'll talk to tomorrow on fantasy football today.
See you.
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