Fantasy Football Today - Rounds 2/3 RBs Part Two! Plus Best Ball Tips and Strategies (06/12 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Let's talk about the Curse of the #1 Pick (2...:10) and then let's talk about Alvin Kamara (3:30)! Does he have the most upside among the nine running backs we've spotlighted this week? After we give the scoop on Kamara, we compare De'Von Achane and Ken Walker (12:00). There are a lot of pros and cons for both of them ... We bring on our Best Ball expert Megan Shoup for a fantastic conversation about Best Ball, starting with Best Ball 101 (30:00) and strategies (32:00). What's the best way to build a lineup in this format? ... Stacking is a huge part of Best Ball, and Megan tells you some of her favorite stacks (36:15), how she factors in playoff schedules, some differences between Best Ball and redraft (47:10) plus her favorite Best Ball values (52:30) based on early ADP ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:41 Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Pick it up where we left off from yesterday's show. We were breaking down a range of running backs that maybe felt somewhat interchangeable, but after Barkley, Kyron Williams, and Travis Etienne come off the board, who do you take? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:02:11 The speed thing again. James Cook, Rashad White, Derek Henry. We got three more to talk about today, but also we talked about Isaiah Pacheco and who else was yesterday? Joe Mixon as well. So today we'll talk about Alvin Kamara, Devon A. Chan, and Ken Walker.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Dave, when you think of Keanu Reeves movies, what's the first one that comes to mind? Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Really? Okay. No. Matrix. All the Matrix movies. You have three guesses. Adventure. Really? Okay. No. Matrix. All the Matrix movies. All right, you have three guesses.
Starting point is 00:02:47 What was Adam's first movie that he referenced when Keanu Reeves came up? It's not fair. You misrepresent this. How do I misrepresent it? It was just, I was just spitballing. Like, I was just kind of thinking. You said what's his best movie, right? Is that what you said?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Is it Parenthood? I just asked you if I said what's Parenthood. Did you choose Parenthood? He did. Yes. I can't believe you chose Parenthood. His best movie. All right, anyway.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And then he's like, oh, I forgot he was in The Mace. Oh, I forgot he was in John Wick. Yeah, I did. I wasn't ready. I wasn't prepared. I prepared for today's show, though. We also talked about Josh Jacobs yesterday, if you want to hear that. So today, three running backs to finish the discussion.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We also have best ball talk. So we actually have Megan Schaup, our best ball writer for Sportsline, coming on at about 1030. That's 19 minutes from now. Megan, if you're watching, you're probably going to be a little bit late. But let me give you a stat right now just about if you want to draft Christian McCaffrey. The last seven players who ended up number one overall in PPR average draft position played 1, 14, 13, 3, 7, 11, and 10 games.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Only two of them finished higher than 30th at their position. And two of those total duds were Christian McCaffrey, by the way. The only really great one was Todd Gurley in 2018. Do two curses negate the curses? Is the Madden curse still a thing? I don't know if it still is. I'm not really a big Madden guy.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I didn't get any fantasy points from Tom Brady last year, so yes. But was Mahomes also on the cover last year? He was. Ooh, yeah, it's kind of cursey. It's kind of cursey. So you had the Madden curse
Starting point is 00:04:29 and the number one overall pick curse. The number one overall pick curse is much worse than the Madden curse. I just moved Elijah Mitchell to 20. All right, listen, so not only do we have Megan coming on later, we also have a lot of emails coming in. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.
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Starting point is 00:04:58 We have a lot of really good questions. Let's go to Alvin Kamara, pros and cons. And Jamie, what are the pros for Alvin Kamara? Uh, 75 catches in 13 games. Um, a receiving core that needs him to catch the ball. Uh, still very productive despite his advanced age at 29, which is just crazy to say. Um, but, uh, still the focal point of, of the run game as well, I would assume aside from maybe seeing more from Kendrick Miller and the new position change for, for Taysom Hill.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But I think the, the, the ability to catch the ball is huge for him. So he's very polarizing depending on the format, because in non PPR where the touchdowns have just disappeared, it's tough to trust him. But in full PPR or even half PPR, you know you're getting at least 50 catches. I would say at least 70 catches and easily in the conversation to lead the position in receptions. Cons? Those are the pros.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You want the cons too? Yeah, sure, yeah. Yeah, I mean the cons are 29 years old, Taysom Hill now potentially playing running back, offense that could take a step back because of just lack of weapons and potential issues. I do like the coordinator change. I do think Quinn Kubiak is going to help. playing running back offense that could take a step back because of just lack of weapons and, and, and potential issues. I do like the coordinator change. I do think when could be asking to help. So that's really not something I believe, but still could happen. Uh, but crowded backfield, uh, Jamal Williams still there. Kendrick Miller getting more of a role, uh, not finding the end zone. And if he starts to slip from a reception total, then he could be
Starting point is 00:06:20 really awful. But, um, I do think that the pros outweigh the cons for sure. Okay. You forgot Adam Azer's favorite con on Alvin Kamara, which is that he's not as explosive as he once was. What is it? How many, it's like a 30 yard run. He hasn't had a 30 yard run since, since like three years,
Starting point is 00:06:38 Ronald Reagan was president. I'll tell you exactly. I think it's 30 or 31 yards is his longest run in the last three seasons. Okay. So that's pretty bad. That's brutal. What about receptions of 30 yards? I don't think he had any of those last year either.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That I'm not sure. He had a game with 17 receptions for 30 yards, whatever it was. It's crazy. It's a volume play for him. He kind of pulled up his average, too. I wonder how many targets per game he has if we take that game out. He did not. His longest catch last year was 25 yards.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So, yeah, he's not making big plays. He's not making big plays, but let's compare him to Rashad White. How do we take Rashad White ahead of Alvin Kamara? Is it only age? Because he's younger. He's younger. Then how do we take Derek Henry ahead of Alvin Kamara? More touchdowns. Why are people knocking Kamara's age but Because he's younger. He's younger. Then how do we take Derrick Henry ahead of Alvin Kamara? You know, it's like, why is the- More touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Why are people knocking Kamara's age but not Henry's? Again, I don't think anybody should be looking at them from an age perspective and saying one is safer than the other. Because once you get to this age, you have to worry about the breakdown. The difference is that one guy, as Dave talked about earlier this week, is built differently and has just performed differently as he's gotten older. Now, you could say the same thing about Kamara. It's not like he's been dealing with injuries.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And so, thankfully for him, the thing that I like about him at this age is that he's not necessarily being used to take the type of pounding that Derrick Henry is going to get. You know, I mean, the way that he gets his production is almost as a receiver by comparison to just being a natural running back. This is why I think you're going to see more of Kendrick Miller. Why are you going to see more of Jamal Williams? And unfortunately, why are you going to see more of Taysom Hill, which is why I think they're putting him back there. So, you know, the rotation is a little bit of a concern, but what he's going to do as a pass catcher is the biggest asset that he brings to fantasy. And so, you know, again, this receiving core has still an unproven Chris Olave, you know, in terms of being the true alpha.
Starting point is 00:08:32 But he is going to be that guy. And I think he will take a step forward. But he's unproven. Year three. You have Rashid Shaheed as the number two guy. A.T. Perry fighting for the third spot. Cedric Wilson is going to be in the mix. Bub Means is going to be in the mix.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I mean, think about the names that we're talking about here. You know, and so it's not like he's on the most dynamic passing attack. And that, I think, is a huge plus for Alvin Kamara because 70 catches, 75 catches. I mean, he projects to obviously over 80 based on, you know, the games missed last year by suspension. So could he be a 100-catch guy? Wouldn't be that shocking. I don't think it's going to happen, but it could definitely be there for him. So he's got the ability to again, lead the position in receptions. He was one short last year, but again, missed three games. Brees Hall
Starting point is 00:09:14 beat him by one 76 to 75. He's just got the ability to be that special in the passing game. And I think this offense will still cater to that. And last last three years no carries longer than 30 yards but here's where he's finished per game in non-ppr let's start with non-ppr last three years rb6 rb19 rb16 a half ppr camara last three years rb5 rb14 rb8 and full ppr the last three years. RB6, RB13, and RB4 per game. So that is in two of the last three seasons, he has been top eight per game while being a very inefficient rusher in both half and full PPR.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Non-PPR, he hasn't been nearly as good except for 2021 when he had nine total touchdowns in 13 games. Dave, uh, let's, we take a look at the PPR rankings. Camara is 15th in consensus.
Starting point is 00:10:10 He is 13 for Jamie. He is 14th for you and he is 18th for Heath. And so does he though, considering he finished fourth or third per game, depending on where you look, I mean, it's very close. I got,
Starting point is 00:10:23 I admit third. I met fourth. So whatever it is per game, depending on where you look. I mean, it's very close. I admit third. I admit fourth, so whatever it is. Per game, does he have the most upside of this group of Cook, White, Pacheco, Jacobs, Mixon, Henry, Kamara, A. Chan, Walker? Does Kamara have the most upside of those nine running backs? I think you could say that he's very close to having the most upside. Let's say that he's in the top three as far as having the most upside. And it's based on what we've seen from all except 2022.
Starting point is 00:10:53 He's had at least 17 PPR points per game every single year since 2017, save for 2022, which was just kind of a disaster of a year for him. And even then, he had 14 PPR points. I almost think we're drafting him with the expectation that that's where he ends up. So he's, he's one of those guys that you're drafting so far away from his ceiling that it's screaming good value in full PPR. In round two or round three or round four, where are you comfortable with Camara? I mean, I'd love to get them in round four if I could. Comfortable though. Would you do it in round three or round four? Where are you comfortable with Kamara? I mean, I'd love to get him in round four if I could.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Comfortable though. Would you do it in round three? Would you take him in round three? I currently have him as a round three pick. So yes, toward the back end of round three. If I go receiver, receiver, I will take him in round three. If I'm not going to go just heavy receiver
Starting point is 00:11:41 based on the build, I would prefer him in round four. Yeah, let's say you're him in round four. Yeah. Let's say you're up in round three and there's a lot of receivers that you like. Late round three. It doesn't matter who you took in rounds one and two, unless it's two running backs, obviously. But let's say you only have one running back and Kamara is the best runner left.
Starting point is 00:11:58 The next best one is like James Conner, just throwing it out there. But there's like three or four receivers that you're hoping make it back to you. You take Kamara first and you take whatever's left at wide receiver in round four. Draft I did last week, I think he went with the second pick of round five. That was with our listeners. That was one of our only fans.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Huge. Huge, huge, huge. Yep. All right. That's Kamara and we're going to take a break. We'll talk about A-Chan and Ken Walker when we come back on Fantasy Football today. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage.
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Starting point is 00:13:52 Discuss Dave taking a Chan ahead of Walker, just way more upside with a Chan and a lot can go right with him. And the fact that he's probably going to catch three times as many passes, if not five times as many passes as Ken Walker. Well, wait a second. I don't agree with that at all.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Wait a second. Walker Walker has been like a 33 catch pace in each of his, when he's been the starter. So has he? Okay. So then I'm blowing that out of proportion, but I, I feel like Kenneth Walker isn't going to get a ton of reception.
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Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah, right. No, I think that A-Chan will have a little bit more of a receiving role in Miami. And I could see Ken Walker not seeing as many catches this year. This is a new offense in Seattle. They want to throw downfield. I think it hurts Ken Walker in that regard. Walker's going to have to get it done with a bunch of touchdowns and a bunch of carries. And we've seen him get that type of opportunity before,
Starting point is 00:14:48 but this isn't the Pete Carroll show anymore. This isn't going to be a run-first type of offense in Seattle. There might be games where it looks that way, but I think Ken Walker could be squeezed a little bit in terms of workload, and we could see this offense, even with Geno Smith as the quarterback, put up some good numbers for their wide receiver. So that makes me skittish on Walker who averaged 13.3 PPR points per game last year. I think he can be a little bit better than that, but not a lot better than that.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So I agree with almost everything Dave said. Uh, and you can apply, don't agree with that part, except for that. Uh, you can apply the, the same argument though, about Walker that they've just used at the end there to HN because of the crowded backfield there in Miami. And that's the thing that scares me the most is that, you know, I'm, I'm expecting HN to take a step forward in his role, or I should say I'm hopeful of HN taking a step forward in his role. Raheem Mostert has to go away. You know, it, it's,
Starting point is 00:15:47 it's pretty clear how they use these guys last year and they still trust Mostert you know and it's funny because I spoke to Mostert at the Pro Bowl and you know you you hear people that are defending older players and players coming off of injury and how we're obviously in a different era than we were in, you know, 10 years ago and 15 years ago when we're defining players, you know, and Dave brought this up about how great players age well, and I don't think most are a great player, but he's, you know, playing better and more as he's gotten older, you know, his injuries were a problem in his 20s, where he sort of corrected that and at 29, 30 and 31. And he talked about his, you know, changing his diet and how that helped him. And so I just, you know, and this ties into Derek Henry ties into Devon HN and excuse me, to,
Starting point is 00:16:32 to Alvin Kamara, you know, in terms of players that, that are getting older and still able to perform, they're obviously not the same, but for most are, this is the best version of him that we've seen. And, you know, he's still one of the faster players in the league and he's still certainly one of the more productive players. And is HN going to take that step forward to become the guy that they trust? Because as he has brought up time and time again, the dolphins didn't really trust Devon HN last year,
Starting point is 00:16:58 as they were in important games at the end of the season, he wasn't getting that type of work. And he was really doing a lot of his best production and blowout situations. You know, we go back to that Washington game when he had the big performance in the second half. And it's not that I don't think Devon Aitken
Starting point is 00:17:11 is worth drafting here. As Dave said, I agree. He's got more upside probably than anybody of the list that you're looking at on YouTube, nine through 18. He's got more upside than any of those guys. If he gets that job, if he gets the opportunity to be that guy,
Starting point is 00:17:22 if he stays healthy, and we continue to stack the ifs, the ifs, the ifs. In terms of Walker, I think what we're going to see, and this is what I agree with Dave, we're going to see more involvement in the passing game. Now, is he going to have the potential to catch as many passes as Devon Aitken? I don't think so if they use both guys in the passing game the right way. But this offense in Seattle is different. It's going to be a more productive offense for both Walker and Zach Charbonnet. Now you can clearly argue that if everybody does not get hurt, where does Zach Charbonnet's role come into play to impact Ken Walker? And I think that's something is somewhat of an unknown because we don't know
Starting point is 00:17:59 if it's just going to be third down back passing downs type of guy. Cause they really do at least the previous regime favored Walker on running down situation. And I think that will be the case, but I just think that Walker's a little bit safer. I think he's still going to be the, the, the main running back there. And I do think that the role in the passing game will increase enough that I like him slightly better than Devon agent. But if my build starts out with, I need to get a home run hitter more so than a safe floor play, and I do think that the floor favors Walker by a significant margin,
Starting point is 00:18:30 then I'm going to take Devon HN with the hope that if he does hit, he's going to be a league winner. Both of these guys are going to split carries. Both of these guys are not necessarily going to be the focal point of their offense.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Can I press you on that, though? Obviously, A-Chan will. I don't think it'll be the focal point. No, no, no. A-Chan will split carry. Let's talk about the split carries, not the focal point part, right? Let's call it split workload and not carries because Walker will have more carries. He should have more carries than Charbonnet.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Last year, he averaged, what was it, not even 15 rush attempts per game. That's have more carries than Charbonnet. Last year he averaged, what was it? Not even 15 rush attempts per game. That's where I think he's going to live. Let me get into that though, because it was, he left one game, 11% of the snaps removed that game.
Starting point is 00:19:17 He averaged 15.3 carries per game, right where he was as a rookie. Yeah, that's really well, but that's the thing about when he was a rookie, because when he was a rookie, he was Rashad rookie. Yeah, that's really, well, but that's the thing about when he was a rookie, because when he was a rookie, he was Rashad Penny's backup for four games. After that, he was on pace for something like
Starting point is 00:19:30 320 carries. He was an absolute workhorse. If you look at the game log for Walker, he had massive splits, differences in wins versus losses last year. And a lot of their losses that he was in were actually blowout losses,
Starting point is 00:19:46 terrible game scripts for him where he had 12 or fewer carries in like four of the five losses that he played in, removing that one partial game where he left after he played seven snaps. So he had these terrible game scripts. Otherwise, you look at the game log, when they're competitive, when they were in the game ken walker is usually getting 16 or more carries so you do with that what you will he is probably game script dependent because he okay last year anyway was coming off the field for charbonnet in passing situations but if they don't get blown out like five times then you know if they're more competitive because kind of like what we saw with henry with the titans last year then if they're more competitive, it's kind of like what we saw with Henry with the Titans last year, then maybe he gets more carries.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Maybe he can be like a 17-carry-per-game kind of guy. So that's something to keep in mind with Walker. He had a weird year in terms of game script, in terms of health. He had one game where he missed two weeks, comes back from injury, gets eight carries. Charbonnet had nine in that game. That's probably not the norm. So I think you could make a case that he's actually a bigger carry guy than what we've seen.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Okay, that's fair. But you mentioned that it's been like a weird year. Last year was a weird year, and maybe it's been a weird career for him, other than when Penny got hurt and he had that second half. I think it was a little more than just half of the season as a rookie where he was actually dominant. And we were banking on that going into 2023 until the draft and when they drafted Charbonnet. And now I just, I guess I'm just a little uncertain about how things are going to land for him, but I do agree with you on this game script front. And to that end,
Starting point is 00:21:19 they opened the year against Denver and new England. And I think they play the giant soon after that. Those are games that they can run away with. Those are games that you could see Ken Walker have an awesome start in. And if we're now looking at both of these guys as possibly game script dependent players where HN, I don't think every game this year where there's a blowout involved for the dolphins, that means a chance is going to be great. I think he could be used a little bit more consistently with the offense, but we know he's going to split.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Then maybe that safe floor theory, or not theory, just the safe floor that Kenneth Walker has, Jamie talked about it, makes a lot of sense for him. But I still don't think he's got the same type of potential as A-Chan. I think A-Chan can be hyper-efficient still. I think he can do more
Starting point is 00:22:01 in the passing game. Let's call it, what is it for Walker? It's around 25-30 catches. I think he can do more in the passing game. Let's call it... What is it for Walker? It's around 25-30 catches. I think 30-35. 30-35. That might be his target. His catches aren't going to be as high. I'm telling you that.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Can I give you his numbers? Would it surprise you if he stayed healthy and had twice as many catches as Walker this year? If Mostert is healthy, yes. I would be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised because I think that that's the role that he could end up having. I mean, where are all these receptions coming from? Because Tua led the NFL in passing yards last year.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Is it coming from Tyree Kill? Is it coming from Jalen Waddle? I think it's coming from everybody. I mean, like, where are they coming from? I think it's going to come from those two guys, especially if defenses are just going to guard against the big play, which is how defenses by and large are playing in the NFL these days. And we'll continue to play this season. I'm going to take the upside with a Chan first and foremost in the draft. I don't mind people taking Ken Walker, but to me, they're very similar in terms
Starting point is 00:22:59 of, we don't know if they're going to be able to play 17 games. One guy seems to be a little bit more touchdown dependent than the other, and the other one is more hyper-efficient than the other but might be less durable. These are not the running backs that I want to hang my hat on as my first running back. So if I'm drafting zero RB, I don't know if I want either of these guys to be my first running back. There's no chance you're drafting zero RB and getting either one of them.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Well, if you're doing zero RB the right way, you're right. You're not. Okay, so I want to finish a little bit here on Walker and I guess some things that I took away from just kind of breaking down the numbers that made me a little bit more optimistic about him. So you've got a new coaching staff. I don't know if that's going to be a good thing or a bad thing, but Seattle last year had the fifth fewest running back targets in the NFL. So maybe they
Starting point is 00:23:49 throw to their running backs a little bit more. I, they did. I just saw a quick note that they, they might do that. They want to do that. We'll see. I mean, they've got three receivers that they like, so we'll see about that. But that would surprise me three years in a row this team has been uh very slow they were last in plays run last year they were last in time of possession it's all changed though exactly this is a good thing for ken walker hopefully everyone right more plays more possession uh maybe more up tempo hopefully they had both of their offensive tackles hurt last year at different points. At one point, it was the same time. So you maybe could get better production from the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And this is a guy who was on pace for 317 carries and 32 catches once he became the starter as a rookie. My concern is he is such a boomer bust running back on a per-carry basis. Two years in a row, 21 or more percent of his carries have gone for zero or negative yards. That's been outside the top 40 among running backs with 100 or more carries. So he's been toward the bottom of that list.
Starting point is 00:24:56 He's a home run hitter, and he's always looking for the home run. And it's really frustrating. And there are other running backs who are like that. Saquon Barkley comes to mind. But, you know, is Charbonnet a more... HN might come to mind. Yeah, his numbers
Starting point is 00:25:12 weren't quite like... Actually, I don't really know because he didn't have 100 carries, so he didn't hit the filter. But I don't think he had a lot of negative carries because HN averaged like seven yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Walker averaged 4.1. I'll look it up. But Brees Hall, for example, almost 25% of his carries last year were zero or negative yards. He's much better as a rookie. Anyway, that's Walker's profile. Do they get tired of that?
Starting point is 00:25:34 And do they go to Charbonnet? That's kind of what concerns me. Charbonnet was like a very nice, consistent runner. You know, didn't have a lot of negative carries. That's what concerns me about Walker. But I'm more, you know, I didn't really want him.
Starting point is 00:25:46 But thinking about some of the other things here, the changes in the offense, and he does make big plays. I mean, he is an explosive player. And he absolutely dominated. Like, the goal line carries. It wasn't even a competition. They got near the goal line.
Starting point is 00:25:57 He was the guy. He's not that dissimilar from Derrick Henry, if you ask me. Like, not as many carries, probably. But you're hoping for a lot of touchdowns. And he should be in position to get touchdowns, I think. I think the thing that you're looking for, again, if you're expecting Mostert to fall off and Hant to have a bigger role, he's worth the round two ADP that we're seeing, if that's your expectation.
Starting point is 00:26:20 If you're expecting him to just take a bigger step and have the ability to build off what he did last year and stay healthy, then round three is probably the safe spot for him. Are you talking about HN or Walker? HN. Okay. Okay. There's no way you're taking a walk around too.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Okay. Nope. That's okay. I was confused there. If, if, if you're, if you're concerned that HN is going to still be part of a committee and
Starting point is 00:26:40 just be reliant on these big plays, then round four is the sweet spot for him. Because if he stays healthy, he'll still have an opportunity to be very successful, but most are just won't go away. And you want to talk about goal line opportunities. I mean, most are certainly is going to dominate that realm of the dolphins playbook.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I would think based on what he did a year ago, 18 touchdowns lead the league. So look, a chance got much more upside again than anybody that we've talked about in this, in this range, but will he be able to fulfill it? That's the league. So, look, A-chan's got much more upside, again, than anybody that we've talked about in this range. But will he be able to fulfill it? That's the concern. And that risk makes me hesitant to take him in round two. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And I get it. And I also think what we're talking about today is later in the show. Devon A-chan's a league winner. And I just want to say, looking at some early ADP, like Walker, Kamara, they're not even close to Achan. So the fact that we're lumping all these running backs together, take the value.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm talking about Ken Walker in round three. There's a good chance you can get him late in round four, maybe even round five, just based on some average draft position I'm looking at. So our, again, revealing more of our magazine, in our pick-by-pick series, I believe I had pick seven, and I started with three receivers, and I got Walker round four.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Like, I love that. Absolutely love that. Okay. A chance, zero or negative runs, 15.5%. He only had 16. He didn't have as many carries as other running backs in the group that we're talking about. But that 15.5% rate, that's pretty low.
Starting point is 00:28:12 That's great. Somehow that's higher than Rashad White. It's higher than James Cook, but that's it. Whereas Ken Walker, you mentioned it, 21% to lead this group. Here's one more stat on Walker. You can react to it or we can move on. 30 career games. He's had 15 or more touches in 20 of those 30 games. He's been over 15 PPR points or 15 or more in 10 of those 20.
Starting point is 00:28:34 So a third of his games, he's had at least 15 PPR points. It makes me a little nervous to love him as much in full PPR. He's obviously better in half and none. Well, I'll tell you this in half PPR, one more stat on Walker, half PPR, he's obviously better in half and none. Well, I'll tell you this, in half PPR, one more stat on Walker, half PPR, there were seven games, removing the game he left with an injury, seven games in which he did not score a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Not full PPR, half PPR. The highest he finished that week was RB18. He, in one of those seven games, Ken Walker finished higher than RB27. So I feel confident saying there are going to be some bad games, Ken Walker finished higher than RB27. So I feel confident saying there are going to be some bad weeks for Ken Walker. It's going to happen, but I think that's going to be true for basically anyone you're drafting in that range.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Maybe I was probably focused a little bit too much on the downside and not enough on the upside with Ken Walker. All right. Is this a dude that we're drafting and then trying to sell high on because of those early season matchups? Maybe. We'll see what the role is.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Let's hear from Megan. She is standing by. Megan, here she is. We are waiting for her to get... I think she's ready. Is she ready? She's putting the earphones in. I think I see a cat next to her or a dog. Megan is here. Megan, what's up? Hi, how are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:29:49 Hey, Megan. Was that a dog or a cat? It's a dog. It's my dog, Riggs. Riggs, I like that. It's like, Riggs! Named after John Riggins, a Washington fan. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay, I thought it was Lethal Weapon. Right now? No. That's what I was going for. I get asked a lot if it's for Friday Night Lights, but no, it's good old John Riggins. I'm a Washington fan, unfortunately. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:12 There you go. Well, Megan Schaup, you can follow her at Megs, M-E-G-S, 08DFS on Twitter, on Twix. And she's going to be writing our best ball content for Sportsline. It's going to be weekly. Let ball content for Sportsline. It's going to be weekly. Let me see. I have exactly what I need to be telling you. This is new to Sportsline and CBS. Her rankings are updated every Tuesday on Sportsline, and she has best ball articles on
Starting point is 00:30:34 Sportsline and CBS weekly. Tell us about yourself, Megan. It's your first time on the show. Welcome. Well, yeah. First of all, thank you so much for having me. It's a thrill to be joining you guys. And yeah, I mean, I've been playing, you know, fantasy and DFS for years, but a couple of years ago I dabbled in best ball, liked it. But in the 2022 season, did it a little more and I made the best ball mania finals on the underdog fantasy. I finished in the top 300 out of 400,000 some entries. And once you make the best ball finals, let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:31:05 you're hooked for life because it was absolutely the best sweat I've ever had. It was. And by the way, obviously I finished in, um, I would think like 285th place. So nowhere near the top prize. Um, but it was, it was the best what I've ever had. It was so exciting. And you are now hooked. I am now hooked for life on best ball. And the great thing about best ball is I'm a football only girl. So allows me to be in the football streets 365 days a year. Yeah, it's great. I mean, the best ball people have been drafting for a while. These are diehards. Since before the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Since before the Super Bowl? That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Underdog had a tournament. I think they released right before the Super Bowl. It was like a pre-draft tournament. And then, of course, their flagship tournament they released right before the super bowl it was like a pre-draft tournament and then of course their flagship tournament uh was released right after the nfl
Starting point is 00:31:48 draft and then they keep releasing other contests from there let's do a little best ball 101 just for people who who might not understand what we're talking about best ball it's one of the best you know one of the nice things about it is if you have a lot of leagues this is not one that you have to manage you're not doing any in-season roster management you're're not making trades. You draft a whole bunch of people. And based on whatever the lineup requirements are, the ones that score the most points become your starters for that week. But yeah, what else do you want to tell us about best ball for the people like sell it, give us a sales pitch for people to play best ball. Well, you kind of said part of the sales pitch. It is kind of a set it and forget it. All the strategy is up front. And so that's what makes it really interesting to me is I like to that.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I don't have to. I can have hundreds of contests and hundreds of leagues, and I don't have to manage it because all the strategy is done this summer. And that makes it fun, though, because you're strategizing. Obviously, best ball, your best players are being slotted into the roster spots. So you have to really strategize to make sure you're covered for injuries, for bye weeks. Make sure you're spreading out that positional allocation to make sure that you can finish the top two in your pod. So basically, you're in a 12-person pod.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And if you finish, and that's who you draft with, if you finish in the top two, you move on to the playoffs. And that's what they call advance rate in basketball. So you want to have a good advance rate because then you make the basketball playoffs, which starts week 15, quarterfinals week 16, semifinals week 17 finals. And then you're trying to advance from there. So, again, a lot of strategy is to have a good advance rate to make the playoffs. And then there's a lot of extra strategy to try to, like, can I build a good roster that can sustain and get through the playoff weeks, which are, can be a really gone of real gauntlet. Yeah. Jamie, you want to jump in there?
Starting point is 00:33:30 I don't want to hog all the, all the questions here. No, I mean, I think Megan explained it fairly well. I'm just curious to get what her, her strategy is because that's the fun part of this, you know, her approach. So I think we know what, what it is. No, I was asking, I was going to see if you wanted a question that was different than best ball one-on-one, but yeah, let's talk about strategy. Right. And you even mentioned the playoffs, which I think
Starting point is 00:33:52 is something that you have to plan for when you draft, right? Very much so. Yes. So that's a big part of what I look at when I'm, I'm drafting is which teams playoff schedules. I like which teams playoff schedules might mesh well together. Again, one of the biggest strategies in best ball, kind of this is best ball 101, is you'll hear people talk about stacking, team stacking. That helps for regular season advance rates, and that helps for then in playoffs. If you are correlating a team and making a bet on a team that that team does well and outperforms their ADP or just has a very good
Starting point is 00:34:26 season and, of course, playoff weeks, then you're going to have success. Obviously, last year, you wanted to bet on teams like higher-priced teams like San Francisco, mid-priced teams like Dallas and Miami, and then, of course, lower-priced teams last year like Green Bay and Houston. If you did that, you probably had a pretty successful basketball season last year. And so you really want to stack up and make those correlated bets. But there's a lot of other strategy that I try to focus on. Again, as I'm going through a draft, you can work the different strategies that you guys are talking about each week, like zero RB or hero RB, or do I want to grab an elite quarterback i particularly like like a late round tight end build so it allows me to get um the other positions to field strong one thing with best ball is they say you can draft early or often but not both so it's kind of like quality or
Starting point is 00:35:17 quantity not both in in different positions so you're not going to draft like three early running backs and then draft eight of them um you know, so it's, it's those kinds of like nuanced strategies to, to be for people who don't know the underdog format, it's 18 rounds. So you want to split up, split up your positional allocation between quarterback, running back, receiver, and tight end for 18, you know, player positions that are getting slotted into a quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers, a tight end and a flex each week. So my personal preference, I like to build, and this is actually against the norm. A lot of people like two quarterback teams. I made my finals because I had a three quarterback team because it was the year Dak Prescott got injured and was out the first three, six, six weeks. So my favorite type of build is six,
Starting point is 00:36:03 excuse me, three, three quarterbacks, five running backs, seven receivers, three tight ends. And that leans into like hitting the quarterbacks and like the mid to late rounds, which I like a lot of these quarterbacks here. And we can probably talk about that and hitting like the late round tight ends and then kind of like making a stable, very solid running backs and receivers. So what are some of your favorite stacks this year? Hold on. Let me get in a break here, and we'll talk about favorite stacks when we come back from this break.
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Starting point is 00:37:39 This is really coming from me. What are some of your favorite stacks this year? Sure. I actually did research on this really recently. I, I looked at, you know, projected team totals. I looked at, again, the playoff schedules. I looked at coaching and personnel changes. Those are all the things I look at to decide team stacks. Obviously the, the obvious ones are the expensive ones, right? You know, of course, I love the San Francisco 49ers, the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, Miami Dolphins. I actually think a team like Dallas is a stack that you have to pay for somebody like CeeDee
Starting point is 00:38:13 Lamb, but you can get a lot of the other pieces pretty reasonable. I think Dak is quite honestly being undervalued right now. So probably in the mid-round, like a mid-value stack would be Dallas would be my favorite because the fact that you're still getting Dak in like the seventh or eighth round to me is like a huge value. And yes, you'd have to pay for like a CD lamb, but you can get Brandon Cooks, you know, Jake Ferguson in the mid-rounds if you want to get the running back. So Dallas is probably my favorite stack in that mid-range area, followed by probably the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I really like you just have so many options with the Packers. Right. And loves going in that same area that Dak is on underdog. Very, to me, very reasonable price for what he he can bring from both the floor and upside perspective. So those are my two mid-range and then two of my favorite later stacks that I think are just great values are, I really like the Chargers. I think even though they could be more run heavy this year, Herbert is going in like the 130s, I want to say, 140s. And that's, again, for his talent, way too low. I like the rookie lad McConkie. And if you want to bring in the running game with them, you're obviously getting good value on a guy like Gus Edwards or someone like that. But probably my favorite value stack is the Tennessee Titans. New coach Brian Callahan I just think is going to – we have to look at personnel changes, right?
Starting point is 00:39:36 I mean, look at – that's part of what it did for the Texans last year. So the new head coach Brian Callahan coming from the Bengals, we've got a faster pace offense, probably more pass heavy. And they brought in these free agents for a reason to support Will Levis and give him every opportunity to succeed. So you're getting them at like, I think criminally low, you know, prices. So to me, I'm taking advantage and I'm scooping up all that value as much as I can. So I have a lot of Titans stacks. So if the Titans do well this year, you'll know at the end of the season, I'll be happy.
Starting point is 00:40:09 So when you're stacking these teams, Megan, do you leave it just quarterback and one player or are you looking for multiple receiving options? Are you going for, you know, like Levis, Ridley and Hopkins? Are you looking for Ferguson, Lamb and Dak? Or is it just really just one of the pass catchers in the quarterback? That's a great question. It really, it really can be any of those options. It's not like I have a set rule. My favorite is probably four total players from a team, but getting them at different positions because too often, if you had to like, especially obviously some of the top tier teams, you'd have to pay a very high price for both Eagles receivers or both Dolphins receivers, something like that.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I like to if a team, you know, allows for it like the Titans, let's get take an example. You can get then different price points. You can get, you know, honestly, you could start with like a Ridley in like the fifth or sixth round. Then in like the ninth or tenth round, you could get one of their running backs. Then late you can get Will Levis in like the 15th, 16th round and Chigokonko in the 17th round. So that's why I just gave an example of how that is such a great value stack, but I like kind of stacking it up from multiple positions,
Starting point is 00:41:20 but I'm fine if it's just a quarterback and receiver or a quarterback and tight end, I'm absolutely fine. I'm not upset if I leave. I want the quarterback to be stacked with a player from his team, but I'm fine if it's only one. And I usually don't want more than three with him, with the quarterback. Sure. Sure. Okay. So it sounds to me like that helped me take a step back on like what your definition of stack is, because when we play DFS, usually we'll have two, maybe three players from the same team. In best ball, obviously your roster is much deeper. You can go ahead and get three or four players from the same team. It sounds like each team has its own definition of like where you go to get these players.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You mentioned it with Philadelphia. Cost is too high to get so many players from that team. Do you ever consider getting multiple stacks? Maybe you can get players from the Titans because Ridley will cost you. He'll be the most expensive one. And he's around five or six pick. I think you said, but do you pair that with another team where you can stack,
Starting point is 00:42:20 like say the Vikings, for example, where you're getting Justin Jefferson in round one and Jordan Addison is in like round six. I don't know what his ADP is, but something like that, where maybe you focus on two teams and you stack them both. Is that part of a strategy? Well, again, since I like drafting three quarterbacks, I'm definitely stacking all three quarterbacks. So I'm at least having essentially three teams stacked. And that's another reason like having the three quarterbacks is not just does it protect for injuries and by weeks and those kinds of things, but it gives three stacks to kind of who's that best stack week to week.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And who's that best stack. Once I get to playoffs, if I advance that team to playoffs, I have three options of that team potentially going off in week 15, 16, 17. So I'm at least going to have three team stacks with the quarterback, but I also like to just team correlate. So, you know, they'll talk about kind of like more advanced best ball, like galaxy brain best balls, they like to say is, is really thinking through some of those playoff matchups. And do I want to run back a Baltimore stack with a Houston Texans stack because they play week 17, you know, or San Francisco lions, that's could be a big shootout for week 17. People are, or basketball players are looking to stack up week 17 like that. You look to just try
Starting point is 00:43:32 to advance. Okay. There's some correlation here with, you know, the Lions and who they play on week 15 or 16. I want to bring back a couple of players from those teams. Again, I'm not hyper focused on, I do like to try to incorporate some, especially week 17 correlation. I don't hyper focus on that. I just think focus on team correlation. I get my three stacks. And then if I see value to stack up other teams that are good teams, right? I don't want to stack up teams that I don't feel are going to outperform their ADP. Then I'm looking to stack up other teams, even without the quarterback. And I tell people that if say, you'll hear people say, oh,
Starting point is 00:44:07 I got sniped on the quarterback and they get frustrated. Well, the guy that won the best ball mania last year got sniped, I think three times, no big deal. He had two or three other like kind of, they call them mini stacks of like, you know, and I think he had Laporta and Amon Ross St. Brown and he had, you know, Najee and somebody else, you know, so you're, you're, it's fine to get a couple of players from other teams, even without the quarterback. I hope that
Starting point is 00:44:29 answered the question. Okay. Yeah. Megan, I'm curious when you're, when you're planning your stacks, do you let your first round pick dictate how you're going to approach your first few picks, I guess, dictate how you approach it if you're not taking the quarterback or do you go in with a strategy of ease? I mean, like Tennessee is one you can clearly target as a mid round stack, but like if you, let's say you're, you're planning on Tyree kill, right. Depending on what draft slot you have, but someone takes Jefferson, some, someone takes Tyree before your pick, or I guess you understand my point. Um, do you let your draft slot or your first round pick dictate the stacks you're going to build, or do you sort of let it unfold naturally? I mean, I definitely let the, um, strategy of my draft, like zero RB hero or be the anchor
Starting point is 00:45:13 in double hero or be elite tight end elite quarterback. I let that kind of play out based on who I get. But yes, to answer your question, I do kind of let those first like three rounds dictate what teams I'm most likely targeting. So if I do get Hill in that case, I'm probably already queuing up to look to see where he goes. And same thing, say then I do get Ridley in the fifth or sixth round, then I'm probably queuing up Will Levis to watch where he goes. So yeah, definitely those like first five rounds, I'd say the receivers. And if I did do an elite tight end, I let that dictate.
Starting point is 00:45:48 You can also backstack quarterbacks as well, obviously. So in the case of Lamar right now, Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews are kind of going right at that four or five turn. So, you know, you can say, OK, well, I think I'm in the right kind of sweet spot here to grab Lamar at the end of the fourth round and then grab Andrews in the fifth round. And there's certainly other quarterbacks that you can easily, easily backstack where Jordan Love is a perfect example, right? You get Jordan Love and he has a plethora of weapons that you can get after you draft him. So I love that because you're, that's just taking what we talk about in redraft all the time, which is you should know all the strategies, but you shouldn't necessarily commit to one because you have to see how the draft unfolds. Exactly. So it's good to see that that's how it works in best ball as well.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I'm curious how many drafts you've been in where you end up taking players and say, okay, I'm going to stack these guys. And then you get sniped on those quarterbacks and maybe you end up with zero stacks or only one stack on your team. Is that a death knell for your team? Does that mean that you're not going to be able to compete? What does it mean or how do you counteract that when you've realized that you're not going to be able to stack your team the way that you would once you figure out which players you get with those early round picks? Well, I'd say with the early round picks, if you're getting sniped, so in the instance of Tua with Tyreek Hill, let's say I've queued up Tua and he gets sniped. Well, then I'm looking, you know, your mind's constantly working and obviously you can do fast or slow drafts. So I used to only like fast drafts. I've gotten into
Starting point is 00:47:19 the slow drafts because it lets you certainly pivot a lot better when you do get sniped right but so say tua gets taken well i've probably taken a couple other receivers in between there and then i'm just my mind's working okay well then who else can i build a stack for who else can i build a stack for and and then again there are guys that you can grab late that you could back stack um and i'm talking like even later i mean if i had to just get Will Levis and Chigaconquo, okay, that's fine. You know, or maybe I don't have Garrett Wilson or Mike Williams, but I grab, okay, well, I got sniped on my course. I'm going to grab Aaron Rodgers and I'm going to take Corley and Conklin, you know, something along those lines. I'm just giving random examples,
Starting point is 00:48:02 but I really am trying to leave each draft with all my quarterbacks stacked. But you can, I think, pivot even when you do get sniped. Again, the story of the guy that won last year the whole best ball mania, the story was he got sniped two or three times. And that's why he had these little mini team stacks. But he pivoted. And he pivoted to a Jordan Love, Jaden Reed stack. And I think he had Watson.
Starting point is 00:48:24 He got Love. And then think he had Watson, he got Love, and then he got Reed right after. And a Jordan Love, Reed on Sunday night won him $3 million. Adam's new favorite stack is Drew Locke and Daniel Bellinger. So he's on, he's with the late round stack. That's quite a back stack.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah, that's the late stack. Exactly. See, there's always options late in the draft. Yeah, there you go. Megan, I'm going to take a gamble here. I'm going to ask you a question that I probably shouldn't be asking. This is not great hosting because I know you're not a big redraft player, right? You're mostly just best ball. Correct. But maybe you can philosophically
Starting point is 00:48:54 like obviously, you know what you're doing and all these best ball people, these pros you talked about, they stack all the time and they plan for week 17 in advance. They're looking at playoff schedule is there a reason why you should be doing again if you can't answer this i'm sorry you can just say adam that was a stupid question people say that to me on the show all the time but is there a reason why you should be doing that in best ball but we don't really do that in redraft leagues should we be looking more at stacks and week andoff matchups in redraft leagues, you think? Well, because, again, because I don't play redraft, I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:49:34 The reason it means so much in basketball is because you'll hear people say that's where all the money is, is week 17. And that's true. You know, when you advance in the playoffs, you're essentially getting your money back in that contest, you know, that you entered. So maybe you make a slight profit. But, you know, to keep advancing in the playoffs is where you really start to see your ROI. And of course, if you make a finals team, you really start to see in our, your ROI. And then of course, if you succeed and do very well in week 17, that's where you can make big money. So that's why people focus on week 17. And that's why people are actually even waiting even week 15 and 16 more as well. We're
Starting point is 00:50:05 looking at teams whole playoff picture. Like right now I've been looking at teams and I've made charts for the dome environment or weather environment. They look ahead totals for weeks 15 through 17, who has a good picture in general, or who like the dolphins have a great week 15, 16 situation, but it could be paired with a team that has a great week 17 situation. Stuff like that are the things that best ball players have to focus on because that's truly where all the money is, is weeks 15 through 17. That's not the case in redraft as much. Well, I mean, it is to a degree in redraft because championships are won and lost. Maybe I'm wrong on this one too, because I'm a newbie when it comes to best ball.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I never really gravitated toward it until recently. But I feel like the huge difference between redraft and best ball is you can make changes all year long and redraft. You can't do it in best ball. And so when you draft in best ball, you're drafting with upside best case scenario in mind. Your team is trash if your quarterbacks get hurt or if you take Tyreek Hill in round one and he stinks or he gets hurt and you don't have a good option to fill those spots week after week, you're not going to win anyway. So you might as well draft with the idea being everything's going to go perfect. These are the stacks I like. These are the
Starting point is 00:51:25 players that I love and I'm, I'm hoping that they all hit. That's kind of what has to happen because there's only one person that wins a big prize. Correct me if I'm wrong, Megan, in, in these best ball tournaments. Sure. Yeah. Yes, that is, that is true. Um, but in the case of underdog fantasy, which again is my favorite place to play best ball they have made their payout structures a lot flatter for the the fine for the finals so if you make the finals you can you can you know make again significant significant profit and significant money and just making the finals again that's why i'm trying to look at playoff pictures as a whole yes to your point a lot of people in the best ball community will say draft like you're right. And I get that. Again, I saw a situation for myself that I had a team where the quarterback goes down week one out six weeks.
Starting point is 00:52:13 You think that seems trash. Well, it's not because I drafted three quarterbacks and that helped sustain. I kind of think sometimes, and this is against the norm of other basketball players, that my cynical nature kind of helps me build balanced teams to protect for those things when things go sideways in a season. And they will. And they do. So, you know, I do get draft like you're right. But I also do think you should be drafting. hyper-fragile at any position because I know that the chaos of an NFL season, and I know that you have to protect for the injuries or the guys that get benched or all those crazy things. And so I do like to keep that in mind when I'm drafting as well. Yeah. There's no question that in redraft, we're always looking at those playoff matchups once we get to that midpoint of the redraft season. And we know if our team is a contender
Starting point is 00:53:03 or a pretender, if our team's a pretender and just hanging on, we're not really thinking about week 17, but if our team starts off six and oh, we can start building and putting players on our roster that could help pay off for us in week 17. You can't do that in best ball, except when you draft. And that's why they go about making those decisions on week 17.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah. Right then. Right. You said it perfectly. Cause yes, you're money is in the late in week 17 for you guys as well. It's just you can make pivots during the season. Basketball players can't. We have to do all the strategy has to be in that draft.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Whether you're fast or slow, you have to be making all your strategy and thinking through how the entire season and playoffs can play out in that particular draft. OK, let's finish off with some of your favorite values right now. making all your strategy and thinking through how the entire season and playoffs can play out in that particular draft. Okay. Let's finish off with some of your favorite values right now, based on some early ADP, which you can see on fantasy pros, Megan focuses on the underdog ADP, but who are some players that you'd highlight as good values?
Starting point is 00:53:57 I mean, I mentioned one earlier. I absolutely think Dak is criminally low. Still. I have him ranked much higher than his ADP. I'm not sure exactly where I have him right now, but in the 70s and he's going, I think late 80s or early 90s. I see 92. Yeah. So I have him ranked in the 70s. I just think this was, he had the most touchdowns last
Starting point is 00:54:21 season was I believe quarterback three on the season and half point PPR and they're going to be pass heavy again they did not address the running back position besides bringing Zeke back so they were very very very pass heavy the kind of back after their bye week last year and I don't see that changing so you know one of my favorite bets last year I used to love like in the betting market, well, I'm going to try a Dak four touchdowns and 300 or Dak 303 and do like a, just a simple parlay for that. And that won quite a bit because they just had a very high pass volume. And again, this was the guy that led the league in, in touchdowns passes. So I'm going right back to the well on Dak. He's my favorite like quarterback value. But I have a lot of other values kind of
Starting point is 00:55:06 throughout the draft. Another favorite one I just wrote about on CBS yesterday was Calvin Ridley, part of that Titan stack. I mean, Hopkins is a great value too, but Ridley's coming over again in that Brian Callahan offense. Kind of rumors that he could be used in that chase role. I really don't think he was used effectively in Jacksonville. A lot of his passes were down the field on the bound along the boundary. I think they'll use them more in the middle of the field, give them some more opportunities to get the ball in space and, and be more of a weapon. And, um, you know, he still had, I think over a thousand yards and eight touchdowns. And if you had Ridley last year, you know, he probably could have had 10 or 11 because he was out by an inch on several
Starting point is 00:55:49 times. So Ridley is one of my favorite values that I really, really am drafting probably earlier. And I'm ahead of the market on him. And, you know, late, I mean, late round there, I have a few values late round that I think are just going too low. Ty Chandler from the Vikings is one of my favorite running back late round guys to target. Just feel like with Aaron Jones, I just feel like he showed like an explosiveness last season to really be a big part of this offense. And then Roman Wilson, the Steelers rookie, I think is going to slot right into that Deontay Johnson role in Pittsburgh. So those are two of my favorite later round values. And I have one more total sleeper that I've, again, written about on CBS. Again, you can find all my articles on CBS and Sportsline.
Starting point is 00:56:37 But rookie Jatavion Sanders, you can take in the 17th, 18th round. Similar to Sam Laporta. I'm not saying Sam Laporta stays in here I'm saying he has the situation where he can step right into that tight end one rule for the Panthers nobody's scared of Ian Thomas and Tommy Tremble beating him out I think this is an athletic guy from Texas that can come in and be a red zone target for Bryce Young so I like him as a total sleeper, like last end of the round, end of the draft type value. Nobody's trembling. And there he is, folks. Come on.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Where's my. There it is. Megan, thank you very much for coming on. It's been a pleasure, guys. Thank you for having me. This is this is an A plus guest. That was some terrific information. I still have questions. I have questions, too, but you know what, Dave?
Starting point is 00:57:27 You're just going to have to go to Sportsline and read about it, okay? Already there. Have already done it. Alright, follow her at Megs, M-E-G-S-0-8-D-F-S and see her content on Sportsline and on CBSSports.com and for Dave, Jamie, and Megan Schaup, I am Adam.
Starting point is 00:57:44 We'll talk to you tomorrow with the rest of our regression candidates. See you then.

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