Fantasy Football Today - Seven Stats That Could Matter in 2022 (05/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: May 16, 2022The splits in the Patriots backfield, Dalvin Cook's struggles near the goal line, Travis Kelce's edge over TE5 and much more! We've got some noteworthy stats from 2021 that might matter in 2022. First..., let's hit the news and notes (1:45) including Jerry Jeudy's arrest and Jarvis Landry's role with the Saints ... Starting our stats segment with Jonathan Taylor (14:21)! Did you know he scored the fewest PPR Fantasy Points for the #1 RB since 2015? Also, we'll tell you what to know about the Patriots backfield competition (18:05) and just how much better Kelce has been than TE5 in each of the last four seasons (25:30) ... Joe Burrow was surprisingly underwhelming late in the season (31:40), but his pass attempts were up! Dalvin Cook (37:15) and Mike Williams (40:30) struggled mightily near the goal line and Cleveland rookie WR David Bell (44:40) led the nation in something that could translate to the next level ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome, everybody.
It is Monday, May 16th, and we are talking about some stats from last year that may or may not matter.
Jonathan Taylor has scored the fewest fantasy points in PPR for a number one running back since 2015.
Joe Burrow scored more than 19 fantasy points, only five times in his last 12 games, including the playoffs.
Dalvin Cook and Mike Williams were both
terribly either inefficient or unlucky,
however you want to look at it, near the
goal line. We'll talk about what that means
going into 2022. Adam, Dave, and Jamie
here. I have no idea what to start
the show with, so I'm just going to default to this.
Do you want all the depressing stats?
I don't know if I have any good ones. Are they all bad? No, I have some good ones.'m just going to default to this. Do you want all the depressing stats? I don't know if I have any good ones.
Are they all bad? No, I have some good ones.
I'm going to start with this.
Who's going to win the Super Bowl?
The Buffalo Bills.
I mean,
Tom Brady didn't come back to watch it again.
Brady?
Bucks over Bills?
Do you want to give it a pick?
I'll say Bucks over Bills? Do you want to give a pick? I'll say Bucks over Chiefs.
I really haven't thought about this.
I know.
Let's go with Buffalo over the Chicago Bears.
Okay.
It could happen.
It could, yeah.
Rich strike, baby.
Rich strike.
Rich strike.
That's awesome. All right. Let's do some quick news and notes here, and then we'll get into the stats that may or may not matter.
Jerry Judy, last week, I didn't talk about this on our schedule show, but it happened just before
the schedule came out. Jerry Judy was arrested, charged with second degree criminal tampering
with a domestic violence enhancer. Any change in your rankings here based on this, guys?
Jerry Judy?
No, I don't think this is going to impact his
football season.
The Saints signed Jarvis
Landry. All right, Jamie,
give me the first word here. What does this mean for
the Saints, for Landry, for Michael Thomas,
for Chris Olave?
It's great for Jameis Winston.
This is a very nice-looking receiving core that the Saints are putting together here
if everybody's healthy.
So I like that for him.
I don't love it for the receivers because I think you're going to see them
sort of cannibalize each other a little bit.
So I downgraded Michael Thomas even more.
Still a number two receiver, but closer to 25 than he was to 15,
which is where I started.
We did a draft last week or two weeks ago.
A lot of it dropped down a couple spots.
Landry actually ranked him, so he's third for me,
but the other two dropped a little bit based on Landry joining the fold.
Dave, what do you think?
I think Landry at this point of his career is more of a tight end
than a wide receiver.
Short area target, someone for Jameis to check down to.
How often does Jameis check down?
One of the complaints we had about Jameis last year was that he didn't throw to the running back enough.
And thinking back over his time in Tampa, I remember him airing it out and looking further downfield.
So I haven't made the same type of
switch that jamie's made yet with thomas or alave and i'm not particularly interested in drafting
jarvis landry either okay by the way michael thomas if you're wondering well jarvis landry's
a slot receiver michael thomas he gets labeled as a slot receiver he really isn't 2019 played 25 of his snaps in the slot 75 basically out wide and
similar numbers i think even more out wide in 2020 and didn't play in 2021 uh so there is one
other wrinkle here okay that it's possible that michael thomas isn't ready and the saints are
realizing we better have a plan in place in case michael thomas's ankle is still giving them
problems remember there was the report of i don't know a week or two ago that there were still quote
hurdles for him to clear and so if he's not ready then that changes this entire dynamic completely
and it does put Jarvis Landry significantly on the fantasy radar and just to be clear you guys
do like Olave better than landry yes yes okay significant right
uh the falcons i did downgrade kamara too i put him in round two oh that's interesting
yeah i mean right you think about it they just have not had anybody to throw to other than
michael thomas and alvin camara so it's a different look now and obviously a different
quarterback and it is another short area target and if jamis was already if it's a different look now and obviously a different quarterback. And it is another short area target.
And if Jameis was already, if it's going to, I don't know,
can Jameis be taught to check down?
And Jamie, you can correct me if I'm wrong,
if there was a slot receiver in Tampa that did benefit a lot from Jameis.
I know tight ends did a lot.
Godwin.
Not really a slot guy there for the most most part he kind of moved in and out
right yeah right not a true slot i just i don't know i i think that jarvis is going to have a
hard time picking up a lot of targets from game to game certainly not like what he had in cleveland
but he could take work away from camara if camara is running you know say a wheel route or just a
flare route out into the flat,
Jameis doesn't look there. He's looking further downfield. Technically, Landry would be further downfield than Camara would. So that's one that makes some sense. That's one that I probably didn't
that's what I need to think about a little bit more. So actually, Chris Godwin in 2019,
that was his breakout year where he was the number two receiver in fantasy behind only michael thomas he was in the slot uh 55 of the time something like that maybe maybe more um yeah an a dot on
him yes that was going to look that up to his a dot into in 2019 was 10.4 which is definitely
going to be higher than jarvis landry it's also bruce yeah different type of slot receiver but
he was a slot receiver and finished as the number two wide receiver in
fantasy that year and missed two games.
Also played just 14 games,
had a huge season,
1,333 yards.
And how many touchdowns,
nine touchdowns that year in 2019 with Jamis.
And he didn't finish this season.
Right.
The Falcons acquired Brian Edwards and a seventh-round pick from the Raiders
for a fifth-round pick.
Does this matter?
Wide receiver Brian Edwards to the Falcons.
I like it for both sides.
I mean, look, Brian Edwards is going to get phased out
by the Raiders,
and so at least this gives him a chance.
And give the Falcons credit.
You know, I mean, much like the Bears,
they're scraping the bottom of the barrel
for whatever they can find
to put opposite their, you know, top guys opposite their top guys for what it's worth.
And so this gives Edwards an opportunity to prove himself.
I don't think it should necessarily, for the people that have been waiting
for Brian Edwards, this is going to be the reason why he becomes
a fantasy-relevant guy, but it gives him a chance to be that way.
So as the season unfolds, he could be somebody that we're talking about off the waiver wire. Hopefully, he takes advantage of the situation
and the Falcons use him the right way. Definitely. We've seen flashes from him.
This is, I believe, the fourth or fifth pass catcher that Atlanta
has. Certainly, they've acquired in the last two years that's been
well over 6'1", physical
and big. They're just putting a bunch of power forwards on the field.
And it's going to be interesting to see if this pays off for Atlanta.
But clearly, they're putting big bodies in at wide receiver
and tight end with Pitts.
Yeah.
There's also a history with Barriota, too.
They just played together.
Oh, true.
Fair point.
I have something to say about power forwards in a little bit.
The Raiders, by the way, signed Keelan Cole.
But would you rather have now Raiders and Saints news,
would you rather have Alvin Kamara or Devante Adams?
Still Kamara.
I think Kamara.
Okay.
Rob Gronkowski remains undecided, according to the Tampa Bay Times.
Anybody buying that?
No.
He doesn't have to do anything now.
Right.
Just wait it out.
I think if you're a contender in your dynasty league and you have a hole at tight end,
this is a good opportunity to see if you can acquire him for a third-round pick
or something relatively cheap
in your rookie draft. If you
are not a contender,
you should be looking to sell him for probably a second round
pick to somebody that needs a tight end.
All right. The Dolphins are saying
they're going to let their running backs compete.
They've got Mostert. They've got Michelle.
They've got Edmonds, plus
some of the guys we saw last year.
Who's the best one to draft right now? Mostert, Edmonds plus some of the guys we saw last year. Who's the best one to draft right now?
Mostert, Edmonds, or Michelle?
I'm assuming Michelle is going to go last in that group.
Dave, who's the best offense running back to draft you're drafting right now?
If I had to draft one of them, it would be Edmonds
because I think he's the one that's best for a role in that offense
as the passing down's running back.
I don't think Stoney can do that role very well.
I don't think Mostert can do that role very well.
He could in a pinch if they had to.
But he's going to work in second and long, third downs,
contender for 50 catches if he stays healthy,
dark horse to be the main back there.
I think they're probably just going to throw them all on the field
and just see who gets hot from week to week.
Sounds great.
Overuse any one of them.
Sounds awesome for fantasy.
Yeah.
It's going to be a nightmare for fancy,
but the stability of the role for Edmonds and the likelihood that they don't
have anybody that really takes that role away from him.
At least nobody who's like significant makes him the most appealing of the
three.
It's just,
it's,
it's a weird situation because Tua has not thrown to his running backs very
much.
And the 49ers haven't thrown to their rushing downs guy very much,
not even a pass catching running back.
It's mostly been Kyle Juszczyk at the fullback position.
So,
you know,
it's just,
it's not,
I think a scenario where you're going to see Chase Edmonds.
Okay.
He'll be 50 catches.
I just don't see that happening based on what we've seen from Tua and if Mike McDaniel runs the same system.
So if you want to just adopt the 49ers playbook for fantasy and you want someone in this backfield,
it's always kind of been the last few seasons, at least based on how the leading rusher has gone, take the one who's last.
And so with one of your last picks, as you said, Adam, Sonny, Michelle will probably be sitting
there. It could be most of it sitting there. One of those two Edmonds will definitely go first.
Just take a flyer on that guy and see what happens. And I, and I also think that we're
going to see one of, I hope it's miles gasket, but one of Gaskin or Savanak bed get cut by the
dolphins. And that guy hopefully get a chance to maybe be a contributor to a backfield.
So if you have one of those guys in Dynasty,
maybe hold on to them while you're going through your roster
cuts to make room for your rookie picks.
Even though it seems crowded right now, they
could end up on another team and have
an opportunity to play.
The Dolphins also signed edge rusher Melvin Ingram.
Love that move for them.
That's a good one. More importantly,
you mentioned power forwards i mean
what a what a terrible nba playoffs right just awful the playoffs have been amazing
the playoffs have been amazing what's been amazing that i there have been so many non-competitive
games the celtics buck series was amazing until game 7. I mean, it was very good.
Close game.
Ridley's Wolves was awesome.
Yes.
Okay, but we've also, like, Middleton's been out.
Moran's been out.
How many star players have been injured?
I don't know.
I think this place.
You mentioned two.
There have been more than that.
Do you miss Robert Williams?
I mean, is he that big?
No, he's not a star, but it's a big injury.
Oh, Booker missed some time, right?
Booker got hurt.
Booker missed time in the series that they won.
Yeah, that they won.
But I want to watch Devin Booker.
Who?
Luka.
Luka, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think these playoffs.
The truth is, I mean, the NHL playoffs have been about 10 times better than the NBA playoffs.
Well, now that you're a Heat fan and a Panthers fan, do you feel about overlapping i am a heat fan right now um i mean
i'm all about the panthers i don't care about the heat but yeah my panthers tomorrow night against
the lightning in-state rival it's gonna be uh it's gonna be very competitive really looking
forward to it why didn't you uh post a picture of yourself the last time the Panthers won the playoff series?
Oh, in 1996?
It was an embryo.
I was into that.
I remember that series really well.
I think they lost the last game, the clincher to the avalanche, in three overtimes.
Do you guys remember that?
I don't remember when they lost.
I do remember my best friend in high school, my best friend growing up, he moved to Denver, I think it was 92.
And so my second time going to visit him out there,
I remember getting off the plane in Denver from Florida
and just seeing all the avalanche sign and Panthers suck and all that stuff.
Let me see, did that go to three overtimes?
Why doesn't it tell me?
No one does care, right? Year of the Rat. I'm pretty sure it go to three overtimes? Why doesn't it tell me? No one cares. No one does care, right?
Year of the Rat.
I'm pretty sure it went to three overtimes.
Okay.
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And here are some stats.
Do they matter?
I don't know that I want to start with the Jonathan Taylor one.
I have a question if it matters.
You didn't reply to the tweet I sent you.
Oh, what a stupid tweet.
All right.
So what is it?
Argyle from Die Hard said it was a Christmas movie?
That's correct.
Jamie, if we spent like 45 minutes interviewing the guy who wrote Die Hard and he said it was a Christmas movie.
And that doesn't matter to me that I don't care that our guy all thinks it's a Christmas movie.
He's named after a sweater.
It was a fun, fun little read there.
I didn't read it was good.
His experience.
Yeah.
He's a great character.
All right.
Let's start with.
All right.
Let's catapulted his career. Let's do Jonathan
Taylor first. Does this
mean anything to you? Jonathan Taylor scored the fewest
PPR fantasy points for a number one running back
since 2015, and that was
with an extra game.
In PPR, he scored 22.2
fantasy points per game. That's awesome, but
that's not
what you see a lot of times from the
number one running back. Over the last six years per game,
22.2 fantasy points per game would have made him RB3, RB3, RB6, RB2, RB4,
and last year he was actually RB2 per game behind Derrick Henry.
So usually RB2 or RB3.
But I don't know.
This can be quick.
This could be a quick no, quick get, whatever.
Does it matter to you that—
What was Henry two years ago?
What was Henry two years ago? What was Henry two years ago?
Yeah.
He was RB4 in PPR two years ago with a 2,000-yard season.
I don't know.
I can get you the points per game if that's what you're asking.
Yeah.
Okay, give me a minute.
Talk amongst yourselves.
I think, again, you kind of mentioned it.
If you're drafting him one and he finishes sixth,
but it's like six by four or five points per game, then you're pretty disappointed.
If he finishes third and it's, you know, a point or two per game off,
at least, you know, you're getting your return on investment, you know.
So that's the hope.
You know, you don't want him clearly to miss time due to injury.
You don't want him to, you know, fall flat on his face.
He's still young enough. You know, you have to worry about some of these you know red flags that we
typically see for these older running backs when i say older you know it's starting to go from 30
to 27 uh when we start to see these guys you know start to break down a little bit so um you know
having just spoke to him uh spoke to his coaches you know he's you know seemingly saying and doing
all the right things to have a repeat performance he He loves Matt Ryan. He loves the situation that, you know, the Colts have in front of them
with the quarterback upgrade and the offense upgrade. So, you know, while it's not the
ideal year in terms of points per game that he's coming off of, that you, you know,
look for him to stay in that range of a record-breaking season,
it's good enough, I think, to trust that he's going to still finish
at a high enough clip that you should take him number one.
Okay.
Derek Henry, by the way, was 20.9 fantasy points per game in PPR in 2020.
Taylor was 22.2 last season.
Wow.
Great season.
And 18 rushing touchdowns, two receiving touchdowns.
40 catches, Adam. 40 catches, Adam.
40 catches, not bad.
That's the concern, though, to be honest with you,
because they keep saying, he said it, the coaches told me this,
Naheem Hines is going to be on the field a lot more.
And Matt Ryan, we know, is going to check down.
The hope is that he checks down to both of them.
So I don't think he's going from 40 to 15 or 40 to 20,
but five catches to 10 catches could be a problem if that's the case.
Do his carries go down then as well?
If he's not on the field as much, then he might not get as much work as he did last year.
Certainly can.
You know, when I what I asked them was him and their office coordinator, you know, when the MVP talk started to, you know know matriculate a little bit and you heard
that he had a shot you know was it okay we got to feed him more and ride him uh was it just part of
the offense and the nature of how your your team was operating with Carson struggling you know what
was the the mindset there and they were like obviously you know we wanted to make sure that
he had the opportunity to win it but we had to make sure we were doing in the course of trying
to win games uh clearly you know until the end of the season they were you know looking like a playoff or I until the end of the season, they were, you know, looking like a playoff,
or I should, the end of the season, you know,
as the season was unfolding,
they were looking like a playoff team.
And then, you know, it happened in week 18.
So, you know, they certainly said,
and, you know, they said it's not a focal point
of what we're trying to do this year,
but if it's in the realm of possibility,
they're going to give them an opportunity
to try to win it again.
So I don't think that means
they're going to take them off the field
for significant stretches. And I think we're going to see a lot of them playing to win it again. So I don't think that means they're going to take him off the field for significant stretches.
And I think we're gonna see a lot of them playing together,
him and Naheem Mines.
All right.
Damian Harris versus Ramondre Stevenson.
This is our second stat.
So,
you know,
I gave you guys a stat about their explosive plays.
They both averaged 4.6 yards per carry,
but Damian Harris had eight carries of 20 plus yards.
Ramondre Stevenson had one and it was 21 yards. That was his longest run. Now he had fewer carries of 20-plus yards. Ramondre Stevenson had one, and it was 21 yards.
That was his longest run.
Now, he had fewer carries.
He had about 70 fewer carries, but that doesn't explain the gap.
Eight carries for Damian Harris that went for 20 or more yards,
only one for Stevenson, and a long of 21 is bad.
And that kind of looks like the kind of runner that Stevenson is.
He's 230 pounds.
He's a bruiser.
Not going to break off big runs.
So that's a big plus for Harris.
However, we use a site called True Media
for a lot of our stats.
They have a stat called explosive runs,
which they define as 12 or more yards.
And if you look at the percentage of those runs,
Ramondre Stevenson was actually better than Harris.
He had a higher percentage of 12 plus yard runs than Harris. So I don't know what that means. He must've had a lot of runs that were between 12
and 20 yards. Um, so Dave, you know, you talk, what would you rather have? What do you mean?
Which player or which profile? No, which, which type of runs more 20 yard,
20 plus yard runs or more 12- to 14-yard runs?
I mean,
obviously the answer would be 20, but I
don't think that's the way you were phrasing it.
Yeah, okay. So would you rather have...
How many did Harris have?
Eight. So would you rather have eight
runs of 20-plus yards
or let's say, do you know the number of
12- to 20-yard runs?
No, but I can get it.
So let's just say it's 15 or double it.
Well, the thing is they had kind of a...
I would rather have the home run hitter.
Same.
What about you?
Because 20 plus yard runs also could include a 50 yard run.
Didn't he have like a 90 yard run?
No, 62, 64, something like that okay still enormous he's not
he's not like that kind of run he's more like a 35 yard run kind of guy damian harris i mean that
one run against the bills i think we all kind of remember it was just kind of silly but yeah um
but but stevens is not going to do that and the reason why i bring this up is that maybe the more
important stat is after har Harris' first injury,
which came in the Carolina game in Week 9,
they played five games together,
including the playoffs,
where neither left with an injury.
So they played five games
where they both were healthy and stayed healthy.
And they had basically the same amount of carries.
And it was about 10 per game.
I think Harris had 50 and Stevenson had 52.
So, I mean, it was a very, very even split.
So if you're trying to figure out, hey, who's better, who deserves more work,
who's going to be on the field more?
Because otherwise, you've got two guys getting 10 carries a game,
very few catches, and that stinks for fantasy.
So, Dave, what's your
read on all of those stats for the Patriots running backs? I think they're similarly talented.
They're both physical interior type runners that can grind and break long runs. Harris just has
been the one that's broken more of them. He's been in the league a little bit longer. We've
seen it from him. I also think that he's the preferred option on downs of three or fewer yards.
He's played 60 such snaps. He's converted almost 80% of those opportunities into first downs or
touchdowns. And 73% of his goal to go carries have resulted in touchdowns. Stevenson has seen about
half as many of those snaps. His conversion rate is still pretty close, 68% overall,
60% on goal-to-go carries. Here's the other point that I wanted to make. I didn't make it on FFT in five. I'll make it now. Four of Stevenson's five rushing touchdowns came in special circumstances
last year. Harris didn't play when Stevenson scored twice on the Browns. Harris was resting
on the bench when Stevenson scored twice in a blowout against the Jaguars in week 17.
So opportunities were there for Stevenson when Harris wasn't needed or wasn't available.
I think Harris is their guy on high-value opportunities.
That's the main reason why you're going to take him first.
I'm not opposed to taking both of them, but I think you're kind of opening yourself up
for a headache if you do
because it is Patriots running backs from week to week.
If you get Harris at a good value, let's call it round six or later,
you should be happy.
He's probably more of a borderline number two, number three running back.
But Stevenson's got value too,
and you're going to get him a couple of rounds after that.
And if Harris goes down, Stevenson should get the lead work.
I think, you know,
the thing we got to worry about
is they did this without James White
or without somebody significant in that role.
Because Brandon Bolden's not the same player
that I think James White is when he's right
or what Pierre Strong might be,
who they added as well,
and could also do some similar things
to what these two guys can do.
But this offense should be better.
I mean, Mac Jones, year two, hopefully going through a year of the offseason,
should be better.
The additions that they made, Devontae Parker specifically,
that should be something that they add.
They add more speed, Tyquan Thornton, second-round pick.
We'll see if the offensive line is better with some of the additions that they made or the tweaks that they made.
There's a coordinator change, you know, so factor that in, you know,
is it going to be the same offense or is it going to be something somewhat
different, some new wrinkles, you know, we just don't know.
So I think, you know, what Dave said about Harris is how you approach it.
You know, I think we've seen in a few of our drafts that he goes a little bit
too soon for our liking and he's clearly very format specific, you know, non PPR half PPR is where he's going to benefit full PPR. He's going to goes a little bit too soon for our liking and he's clearly very format specific you
know non-ppr half ppr is where he's going to benefit full ppr he's going to lose a little bit
so you're banking on a guy scoring 10 plus touchdowns which is something you never want
to bank on because if there is regression from the touchdown standpoint then the other numbers
are just going to look ugly so he's he's safer as a flex he's safer as if you you know go zero rb or
you know however you build your team you don't want to rely on him necessarily as a week. He's safer as if he goes to your RB or however you build your team.
You don't want to rely on him necessarily as a week-in, week-out starter per se.
You don't have to, but can still bring some good value
if this offense does improve and he gets those high-level touches,
specifically at the goal line.
Adam, just one quick thing.
I think the James White point could be significant,
but last year Harris and Stevenson combined to play 15 snaps on third down with four
plus yards to go. So those are passing down situations for sure. They weren't on the field
then. I know they're not going to be on the field when James White plays. So I wouldn't necessarily
look at that as a big drawback that James White will be back. And as for Pierre Strong, I think
the talent is good. I think he's got a lot of upside. It's rare to see a rookie running back have a big role in the Patriots offense.
Damian Harris scored 15 touchdowns last year per game.
He finished as RB 12 and non PPR RB 15 in half PPR and RB 19 in full PPR.
That was per game.
And I just thought those numbers were pretty interesting.
But the scary one is really that they had, yeah,
50 carries in the last five games that they played together
without injury for Harris and 52 for Stevenson.
And that's a rookie running back, too.
That was a rookie running back, yeah,
who didn't get the work until Harris got hurt.
In fact, the first eight games,
Stevenson was inactive four times.
And then he did pretty well.
But if you have no big playability, though, that's also
kind of scary.
You could have a bad year.
But yeah, anyway.
That's stat number two.
Stat number three is about Travis Kelsey. This is how much better
he has been than tight end five
in the last four seasons.
The Mahomes era.
In non PPR,
Travis Kelsey has been 57 or more fantasy points better than tight end five
in three of the last four years.
In half PPR,
75 or more fantasy points better than tight end five in three of the last
four seasons.
And in full PBR, he has been 84 points better
or more than tight end five
in three of the last four seasons.
And he's been 103 fantasy points better
than tight end five in two of the last four seasons.
It is, I mean, an enormous gap.
And he wasn't even tight end one last year, by the way.
Mark Andrews was.
But yeah, I mean, this, I don't know what this means, Dave,
because obviously there is a big five at tight end
with Kittle, Waller, and Pitts in that second tier.
But Kelsey has been worlds better than tight end five
for three of the last four years.
That's why people take him in round one
or maybe early round two this year.
There's absolutely no reason to think that he's going to completely fall off.
Oh, man.
So close.
Dave's levels just completely fell off.
Oh, no, Dave.
Dave, don't leave. No. Oh, no, Dave. Dave, don't leave.
No.
Oh, man.
Dave, see if you can fix it.
Oh, what a bummer.
Dave, I think you're good now.
Come back.
Come back.
You're good.
Come back.
Try again.
Try again, Dave.
I think Dave is leaving the building.
Jamie.
Just work from home.
It doesn't make any sense.
Well, he's got this beautiful studio.
Should be able to use it.
We're working on it.
We thought we made some progress.
We did make some progress.
We'll get it fixed.
We're in off-season form.
Anyway, anything to add?
Anything to say to this?
I mean, look.
At some point, Kelsey's unfortunately going to have uh down season that's going to start
to signal the point where he's slowing down i don't think that happens this year but you know
you never know and so you know you're going to hear differing opinions on this show uh i know
heath likes mark andrews ahead of kelsey they're basically back to back for me in terms of when
you're taking them overall we had this conversation when we were reviewing the mock draft that you
know if you get to the back end of round one
and they're both still there,
and you want to try and guarantee yourself
that player that you like, Kelsey or Andrews,
knowing that there's probably four or five players
you're going to get on the turn,
then you take the tight end and you just don't worry about it.
But I think you just look at these two guys,
those two in particular, Kelsey in particular,
no more Tyree Kill,
and you're asking Patrick Mahomes to have to rely on essentially three new guys, assuming
Mikko Hardman gets, you know, pushed to the side of Sky Moore, Juju Smith-Schuster and
Marquez Valdez-Gantley.
Where is he going to go when he needs a key play?
Probably Travis Kelsey.
Who's going to be, you know, in some of those prime spots, those targets that we love?
Travis Kelsey.
You know, so he's, As long as he stays on the
field, you're going to get superstar quality
production at that position that you're not going to find probably
matched anywhere else, unless Andrew does
what he did last year again.
All right, we're going to take a break here.
When we come back, we'll talk about more negative
stats. Wow, really just a very negative show.
Tomorrow, you're crapping on
running backs. Thursday, hopefully it'll be nice to the tight ends
yeah very negative gosh you know you think I'd be
happy with my Florida Panthers advancing but
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Okay, Jamie, let's go Yankees.
So one of my middle son, Eli, his best friend,
friends, is a huge Yankees fan.
He wears number 99 for Aaron Judge,
lives and dies with the Yankees. Father's a huge Yankees fan. He wears number 99 for Aaron Judge, lives and dies with the Yankees.
Father's a huge Yankees fan from the Northeast.
Transplant down in Florida, maybe you've heard that before.
So they're on the same travel baseball team together
and we won, my son's team won
their age group travel
championship whatever I don't know what
the exact
league or whatever they call it because travel is so weird
but they won their championship and they won
15-0 to win the championship game
so my buddy just
texted me and said yeah his son Grayson
got a letter from
Brian Cashman
congratulating him on winning the
championship and he sent a picture of the letter uh it was one of his neighbors wrote a letter to
his son brian cashman that's awesome man yeah that's really funny oh man i gotta start doing
stuff like that that's that is good stuff. Did you see that
a couple weeks ago? The kid
who caught the Aaron Judge?
How cool was that?
That was a great moment.
Joe Burrow in his last 12 games,
including the postseason.
He scored more than 19 fantasy points
and 6 points for passing touchdown leagues
only 5 times in his last 12
games. He scored more than 25 fantasy points only twice.
25 is good, but the elite quarterbacks,
they're going to score more than 25 points
more than two times in their last 12 games.
Those two games, of course, were those massive games
combined for 88 fantasy points against the Ravens
and the Chiefs in weeks 16 and 17.
But he really was not that good in the second half,
and then he really wasn't good for fantasy in the playoffs.
He didn't throw enough touchdowns.
So again, in his last 12 games,
Joe Burrow scored more than 19 fantasy points
and six points for passing touchdown leagues only five times.
That includes four postseason games.
What do you think?
Are we getting too excited about Joe Burrow
given the kind of weak finish?
I mean, probably so. You know, there's going to be some recency bias because they played in the Super Bowl and he was, you know, while the stats weren't eye-popping, the play at times was.
The hope clearly is that better protection leads to better numbers for him.
And they, you know, changed three-fifths of their offensive line with Lyle Collins and Alex Capa.
I'm sorry, with Capa and Karras.
Capa, Karras, and Collins.
Yep, Capa, Karras, Collins.
Yes.
Like a fraternity.
Right.
So if he's better protected, and we know he was beyond beat up
in that Titans game, even though they won,
that he's going to be able to connect better with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins
and Tyler Boyd with arguably the best receiving core in the NFL.
You factor in Joe Mixon, too.
And so I think if you just keep things in perspective with Joe Burrow,
the fact that we saw him in some of those drafts, I think it was the NFC drafts,
that he was going as the top four quarterback, that to me is a little bit too risky.
If you tell me he's going as the top four quarterback. That, to me, is a little bit too risky. If you tell me he's going as the top ten quarterback,
it's hard to argue when you start to compare him to still Jalen Hurts
with all the upside.
I would take Hurts, but I get it.
Matthew Stafford and what he did last year.
Dak Prescott and some concerns over not having Murray Cooper.
Obviously, Deshaun Watson with the potential suspension.
So the guys that he's being drafted around in that regard,
I think you could certainly argue pro and con that he should be going going ahead or behind some of those guys but he's in that range
and so number one quarterback yes top 10 potential yes top five potential probably not
less really things change uh for him in a big way and the baltimore defense will be better the
steelers defense will still be very good that's defense should be good hey that's i gotta stop
you there you don't think he has top five potential? Because I was going to say, I was going to ask you if you thought he had QB1 potential.
Obviously, the answer there is no.
I think there would have to be some guys getting hurt
for him to have top five potential.
And the offense would have to change.
You know, maybe a mix in injury, defense struggles.
The volume would have to change dramatically.
Heath talks about this all the time.
He was so efficient last year.
I can't wait to argue with Heath about this, though.
Because he was so efficient, Joe Bur can't wait to to argue with heath about this though because he was so efficient joe burrow he basically was the best passer just he led the nfl in
completion percentage third and touchdown rate first in yards per attempt second and yards per
completion third and yards per game second and passer rating he's awesome yeah he may not probably
gonna do that again but if you look at the, he averaged 36 pass attempts per game in the playoffs.
I've talked about this a lot.
There was a point in the season where they said,
we're taking the reins off.
They protected him.
They acknowledged they protected him because of the ACL.
They were much more run heavy.
They got more aggressive.
He started throwing the ball more.
And that included those two games where he scored 40,
where he averaged 44 fantasy points, and then it included the playoffs.
Now, the results weren't great for fantasy, but 36 pass attempts per game, that's what he averaged in the four playoff games.
Then you throw in the last two games of the season, it's even more than that, the regular season.
But just to take 36 per game, that would have been ninth best last year.
So I definitely think he's throwing more.
I definitely think he's running more. I definitely think he's running more.
He only ran for like 130 yards.
He was on pace for 125 rushing yards in 17 games.
I think that could be more like 250.
I think he could double that.
That's based on what he did as a rookie.
That's based on what he did in college where he was rushing for 350 yards
two straight seasons right around there.
So he's not going to win your league with his rushing,
but he can be better there.
I think he throws more, runs more, has a better year.
I definitely think he has top five potential.
Yeah, I guess that's not fair for me to say
that he doesn't have top five potential,
but I guess if everything breaks right for the guys,
I'll just go my rankings.
Kyler Murray has his,
let's say best season for both these guys,
his best season, Burrow's best season.
Who's a better fantasy quarterback?
Probably.
I mean, if Hopkins, I think it kind of depends on Hopkins.
I don't think Murray has that same upside if he doesn't have a true number one.
But he's going to run so much more than Burrow.
He is, I know.
I mean, I'll say Murray.
I'll say Murray.
Lamar Jackson or?
Jackson. Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson or? Jackson.
Joe Burrow.
Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow?
Mahomes.
We know Herbert.
You're going to say Herbert.
You're going to say Josh Allen.
You're going to say probably.
Brady.
Brady.
Jalen Hurts?
Probably.
So, I mean, again, you know.
I don't think he has. We know they're not all going to have their best season.
I don't think he has the fifth most upside, but I do think he has top five upside.
Does that make sense?
I guess I was just saying it differently again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He can certainly finish in the top five,
but I think if everybody stays healthy
and plays their best games,
he plays his best game,
he'll fall, you know, QB eight.
Right.
Again, if things are in perspective,
he's being drafted as top four quarterback, bust.
He's being drafted as the number eight quarterback.
That's good value.
Anything lower than that is great value.
All right.
Dalvin cook and Mike Williams were two players who had a lot of
opportunities to score more and they didn't do it.
Dalvin cook had 12 carries for two yards and three touchdowns inside the
five yard line.
Again,
inside the five,
12 carries gained two yards and scored three touchdowns.
There were 10 players who had 12 to 14 carries inside the five-yard line.
Cook was the only one with fewer than five touchdowns.
There were only two players who scored fewer than six touchdowns.
He and Antonio Gibson.
Gibson had five.
Cook had three.
So it's a guy who finished per game number eight in non-PPR, number 11 in full PPR,
but he only scored six touchdowns in 13 games.
But he got the opportunities. And I
wonder, we saw him in our last draft, Dalvin Cook went 13th to Dave. I wonder if he had scored 10
touchdowns, if he would be going, you know, seventh or something like that. You know, any,
any reaction to this stat, Dalvin Cook, very inefficient inside the five yard line last year,
which probably just a luck thing. Yeah, I think so.
I mean, clearly, you know,
a very frustrating season for the Vikings,
which is why they have a new coach,
which is why I'm excited about Minnesota.
I mean, I think you've heard me say multiple times,
Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson and, you know, Dalvin Cook,
and we did some superlatives on fantasy football today
on CBS Sports HQ on Friday
when we were going over the
schedule and we were asked by our producer Jack Capitardo to list leading rusher leading receiver
etc and I said Dalvin Cook to me is a candidate to lead the NFL in rushing I think the touchdowns
will come up I think his receiving numbers will come up you know clearly the fear is his health
and he's you know getting to that age 27 where you have to be a little bit concerned you know clearly the fear is his health and he's you know getting to that age 27 where
you have to be a little bit concerned you know especially with his history you know could he
suffer a significant breakdown it's why i'll stay in the same breath i'm going to draft a lot of
alexander madison as well uh but i think dalvin cook could be rb1 this year i think he has that
type of upside we've seen it from him before and so he could be a 15 touchdown guy. He could be a
2000 total yard guy. He has that potential now with a more offensive minded play caller as a
more offensive minded head coach and what the play calling will be. So, um, getting him after,
I think the eighth overall pick is a pretty good bargain. So we're Dave drafting him, which was
when he took him at the 12, 13 turn, uh, with Joe Mixon or the one to turn,
excuse me,
uh,
12,
13 pick.
Um,
I like Dalvin better than Kamara now based on some of the moves that have
happened for the saints.
I still like him better than Mixon.
Um,
he's behind Najee and Derek Henry for me,
but he's right there.
Uh,
how about,
how about Jefferson?
How about Jefferson and chase?
So it just depends
format
non and half PPR
I would take the running back
full PPR
I'd take the receiver
just because I think
there's more upside there
you know just smarter
I think at this point
to take those
I would take
I'm sorry
I'd take Dalvin over Chase
I would take the two top receivers
for me which are
Kup and Jefferson
over Dalvin
Okay
Alright
Mike Williams
Mike Williams was a top 17 wide receivers 13th per
game and non-ppr 17th per game and full ppr and for the season he was 12th and non and 14th and
full ppr but he was not even a top 40 wide receiver i think after the first five games
but the stat is similar to dalvin cook he had 12 targets inside the 10-yard line, which is a lot.
Keenan Allen also had 12 targets.
Let's compare how they did.
Mike Williams had three catches for 12 yards and two touchdowns inside the 10-yard line.
Keenan Allen had eight catches, 44 yards, and six touchdowns.
So both had 12 targets.
Mike Williams turned it into 12 yards and two touchdowns. Keenan Allen turned it into 44 yards and six touchdowns. So both had 12 targets. Mike Williams turned it into 12 yards and two touchdowns.
Keenan Allen turned it into 44 yards and six touchdowns.
That was from inside the 10.
It is really bad.
And when you look at the players who had kind of a similar amount of targets,
green zone targets, targets inside the 10-yard line,
the ones who did poorly with those targets were Marvin Jones,
A.J. Green, Randall Cobb, and Mike Williams.
The ones who did well were Diggs, Adams, Renfro,
Keenan Allen, Mike Evans, Mark Andrews.
So, I mean, there's a clear delineation there
between the great players and the...
Have and have not.
Marvin Jones, AJ Green, Randall Cobb.
And then there's Mike Williams.
Like, he's in that second group
with Marvin Jones, AJ Green, and Randall Cobb,. It's scary. But at the same time, my God, if that's just bad luck, the opportunity is there. That's why, for me, he's one of the toughest players, Jamie, because I think he was such a letdown after that hot start. But he had so many chances. And I love number two receivers in a great offense. So I, this is actually a
really important stat for me. I want to know what you think of it. Yeah, it's a, it's a great one.
And I think he's kind of the bridge receiver to that group because, you know, you look at the
guys that you mentioned, Diggs, Adams, Keenan Allen, you know, we know where they're drafting,
we're drafting those guys, Mike Evans, they're, you know, second round picks on some cases,
first round picks and Mike Williams is not. But I think, you know, to me,
Williams is somebody that if you put in the right perspective,
you're going to be thrilled to have him on your fantasy team.
If you're drafting him in a two-receiver league to be
a starter, I think that's probably a little bit
of an overreach because there's going to be some great games
and there's going to be some frustrating ones. And so you're
going to get to a point in the season as we got past
that early point when he was
just a rock star and he probably sat on a few people's
benches during that stretch. And then you started him and he was killing you and you put him on the
bench again. And then he had a big game and he just didn't ever know what, never knew how to
play him. Three receiver leagues, he's obviously going to be a starter because you just have to
take your chances with that type of upside. So he's just outside the top 24 for me. So he's
a number three receiver, but somebody that I would consider is always around five.
I think if you go one running back and three receivers and, you know, factoring in
maybe a quarterback or tight end in there as well, um, you're going to be happy to take him as a
number two receiver potentially, but I would prefer him as a number three guy, you know, and
just hope that some of these things that he puts it all together over the course of the season.
I don't know if it's going to be a hundred catch guy, but you know, 75 to 85 catches last year at
76, you know, that's certainly well within the range of possibility.
We know he's got
1,500-yard potential.
I think you probably want to ballpark it. A good
season for him is probably 1,200 yards, but that's nothing to sneeze
at. And then
he's got a 10-touchdown season on his
resume already, so if he gets that
again...
He had nine last year.
He had nine last year. He missed one game.
Yeah. And he could have year. He had nine last year. He missed one game. Yeah.
Right.
And he could have had so many more touchdowns.
He could have had a 12,
13 touchdown season if he hadn't been so bad with those goal line and short
air,
you know,
close to the goal line targets.
And we can remember them.
There's like a,
a follies clip of him just dropping passes near the goal line,
having to knock that out of his hands.
If that's just fluky and it's bad luck and he continues to get those targets,
then I'm going to look silly for not drafting him earlier.
I think the thing you look at is, you know Keenan Allen's going to get his,
but Keenan Allen's getting older.
Right.
They didn't bring in anybody significant.
Gerald Everett, you know, is he that much of an upgrade over Derek Cook?
I hope he is, but is he?
The running game, you know, Isaiah Spiller,
is he going to get more chances in whatever capacity along with Austin Eckler?
Because I don't think Eckler is coming off the field for significant stretches.
And so the Chargers told you what they think of him.
You know, they weren't ready to turn it over to Josh Palmer and Jalen Guyton.
They want him to be their number two guy by the contract that they gave him,
by keeping him around.
So there's a lot to love about Mike Williams as Justin Herbert
just continues to get better.
But there's just going to be some frustrating and maddening times.
He's just that type of player.
All right, the last stat, I don't know if you want to talk about this again.
I wanted to get another perspective on here.
Unfortunately, not going to happen today.
But David Bell, I said this almost an hour into the show last time we
spoke on Thursday, but David Bell, Cleveland's rookie wide receiver, had an FBS high 67 catches
on shallow or crossing routes since 2019. That's according to ESPN stats and information.
So I know you like David Bell to kind of step in there and play that role short area target guy for
the Browns and he's good I do you know I mean again you're talking about a receiving core that's
Amari Cooper David Njoku for what it's worth and some unknowns like we're excited about the
potential of Donovan Peoples Jones as the number two guy Anthony Schwartz you know competing for
that opportunity as well but David Bell should end up winning the slot role for them.
And if he does, you know, Deshaun Watson connecting with him
and Kevin Stefanski's offense should be a good situation.
Now, I don't know if he's going to, as I said, you know,
when we first brought him up following the NFL draft that, you know,
you asked who's going to lead rookies and receptions.
I don't think he's going to do that, but, you know,
just trying to give you somebody different.
But there's a lot to like about him. And so in redraft leagues, one of your last round
picks, certainly in PPR, I would keep his name in the forefront of your mind. In rookie-only drafts
for dynasty leagues, I don't know if he's necessarily a second round pick. I think he's
in the conversation. But certainly early to mid-third round, he's got much more upside than that. And I think when we look back on rookie drafts, why didn't I take's in the conversation, but certainly early to mid third round, he's got much more upside than that.
And I think when we look back on rookie drafts,
why didn't I take him in the second round?
You know, he's going to be, I think one of those receivers.
So I like his opportunity.
I like his situation.
Clearly if Sean Watson is not suspended,
that's going to sway how he performs most likely,
but there's a, there's a good opportunity here,
especially if Njoku continues to be sort of this guy that doesn't play
consistently week in week out, produce consistently week in week out.
And, you know, Amari Cooper does this thing, but the other guys don't step up.
He can be the number two receiver for the Cleveland offense.
All right.
That's David Bell.
And those are some quirky stats from 2021 and even before that with David Bell.
That might matter in 2022.
Let's read your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
This is from Juan.
Which offense do you believe collapses
this year? I had Tennessee last year and I was
right, but I had a rough first five weeks because of
Derrick Henry, LOL. And which
offense takes that huge step forward like the
Bengals? So which offense collapses?
Which one takes a huge step forward?
I mean, the offenses that could
collapse, I think you could look at San Francisco
if Trey Lance is
bad or it's a combination of Jimmy Garoppolo still playing and Lance coming in and out and, you know, the loss of Mike McDaniel.
So there's some things there that you could see, you know, if Debo doesn't have the same type of production as a rusher.
That's one just because it's a quarterback change.
Arizona.
I mean, there's a lot of moving parts right now.
You know, if Conor gets hurt, can the backfield still be sustainable?
You know, I mean, we'll say as of now, you know, Benjamin or Ingram,
the rookie that they drafted, but are those guys going to be what Conner was
when Edmonds got hurt or vice versa?
No Hopkins.
You know, we're asking, you know, Marquise Brown to be that guy.
He's certainly shown that he can be, but if he's not, then Kyler, you know,
falls apart.
So there's some flaws there. So those are two that come to mind. Obviously, Seattle
right now could crater with the quarterback situation.
The ones that take a step forward, I think you look at the Dolphins and the Jets. Those two in particular.
Miami clearly getting a significant overhaul from coach to
offensive line to receivers and backfield. There's a lot to like about what's going on
there. Then the Jets about what's going on there.
And then the Jets, they just added Garrett Wilson.
They add Brees Hall, two high-profile rookies
that could clearly make things a lot better for Zach Wilson
and everybody else not named Michael Carter.
So there's a lot to like about that Jets offense too.
Broncos, obviously, that's one.
Right. I think Jaguars and Bears,
you're hoping for that second-year bust out.
And I throw the Niners in there, but they were already a good offense and bears you're hoping for that second year bust out and
i throw the niners in there but they were already a good offense but you're hoping for that second
year quarterback right raiders get better raiders are going to get better sure okay next email is
from nick dynasty question my dynasty team is in full rebuild mode i'm surprisingly good at both
quarterback and tight end but at running back I have literally no one worth mentioning.
And at wide receiver, I have an okay core to start building around
of A.J. Brown, Rashad Bateman, and Hunter Renfro.
I'd say he's good at quarterback.
He's good at tight end.
He's okay at wide receiver.
He's got A.J. Brown.
He's got bad running backs.
So Nick has 101 and 103 this year.
Do I do the obvious thing and take Brees Hall and a wide receiver?
Or do I lock up two stud wide receiver prospects instead?
In doing so,
I get another early pick next year
since I'll have no running back
to play this year.
And I'll have a pretty good
wide receiver core,
a young wide receiver core.
So he's basically tanking
if he does that,
in his mind anyway.
I think you have to take
Brees Hall
unless you want to trade out
and see if you can get
multiple picks
in the first round.
Or not multiple picks
in the first round,
but maybe
another first round pick
so you're swapping
with that particular manager
and then maybe
another player
that can give you
some significant
production moving forward,
so some receiver.
But you could be in the weird spot of Ken Walker staring you in the face again at three,
and then you just sort of try to rebuild your running back core that way.
I don't think I'd do that.
I wouldn't do that either.
I would just throw him out there.
But I would probably go Brees hall and whichever receiver you like assuming drake london goes to you still get you know hopefully
a pretty good running back prospect that i don't know where breeze hall will stack up
following this year comparing him to the class next year um but i think you know if you're
trailing burks garrett wilson you know i don't know if you want to go both jets and go breeze
hall and garrett wilson but um you know james don't know if you want to go both jets and go Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson,
but Jamison Williams, you could certainly go that route
and hopefully he turns into the guy that we saw at Alabama.
There's a lot of different ways to go about it.
But if you're not sold on Brees Hall,
then trade the one-on-one
and see if you can get a young player,
hopefully a receiver,
and another pick in the first round.
I would probably look for another first-round pick,
player, and maybe another pick in the rookie draft.
I have a funny question here from the chat.
Jamie, is your football molding?
That football above your left shoulder is in bad shape, dude.
What is going on there?
Yeah, it's a moldy football.
Is it really?
Yeah.
It's an old-school football my father-in-law found at a thrift store and gave it to me.
I never noticed it.
Is it getting worse?
I thought it had been there.
Oh, wow.
That's pretty bad.
Okay, a few more emails here.
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This is from Steven.
I keep her question.
I must keep two.
I can keep up to three.
I have two third-round picks, three fourth-round picks, and two sixth-round picks.
These are a lot of picks.
All right, he's got Justin Jefferson in the second,
Josh Allen in the fourth.
Remember, he has three fourth-round picks.
Travis Etienne in the 13th, and J.K. Dobbins in the 12th.
Ooh, all right, so you can keep three.
Jefferson in the second, Allen in the fourth,
Etienne in the 13th, Dobbins in the 12th.
I probably just throw back Allen and keep the other three guys.
Especially you have so much draft capital, you can draft
Allen again maybe in the second round. Or no, you
lose the pick.
You lose the pick, yeah.
He keeps Jefferson, he loses the second round pick.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm keeping Jefferson, I'm keeping Dobbins, I'm keeping
Etienne, and I'll find a quarterback.
Okay.
It's just hard when you have so many... You have two third-round picks
and three fourth-round picks.
I'm almost tempted to just keep Josh Allen
and get the number one high.
But he may be able to get Allen in the third round.
Not with all the keepers, I don't think.
Then take him to the first round.
Why take him to the first round?
Because you get the value on ETN.
Okay.
From Eric from the Charm City.
I just wouldn't keep the quarterback when you have the two running back values are just too good.
And clearly you would take Jefferson or Allen.
Oh, I'm definitely taking Jefferson.
I would take Jefferson, Dobbins, and Josh Allen.
I would throw back ETN.
I don't know what to expect from him.
And just because you have three fourth-round picks,
I don't mind spending one of them to get the number one quarterback.
Okay, so Eric from Charm City, which is Baltimore, right?
Yes.
Hello, Omar, Stinger, Avon, and Marlo.
I believe that is the wire.
Yep.
Ten-team, two-flex, five-keeper PPR league.
I am keeping Javante Williamsiams saquon barkley
davante adams t higgins and kyle pitts not bad i have the second overall pick in our upcoming draft
should i draft one of the high upside rookies that could be good for a long time or should i
target a proven veteran that can help me win now it's's essentially going to be Traylon Burks, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson,
or Brees Hall
versus Deontay Johnson, Jerry Judy,
Brandon Cooks, and Darnell Mooney.
So of the players that you mentioned,
Brees Hall would be my favorite.
And you're running...
Who was the guy you said first before Barkley?
Javante.
So you, I mean, you have two guys that certainly have number one upside,
but they're going into the season as number two running backs.
I would probably see, I mean, if you get Brees Hall, that's the guy I would take.
But Brees Hall could go number one,
if that's the caliber of players you're talking about.
Yeah, Deontay Johnson might be next for him, I'm not sure.
Brees Hall, Deontay Johnson, Jerry Judy, him, I'm not sure. Resol, Deontay Johnson, Jerry
Judy, rookie wide receivers,
Brandon Cooks, Darnell Mooney.
It's hard when you're 50 players in.
Yeah. Okay,
he also says, P.S., I have
been a long-time listener, and recently when Dave's
connection dropped out after stating something
about 50% of the time,
Adam cracked a joke about hearing about 50%
of Dave's answer. I've never heard Jamie
laugh as hard as he did. Adam, take
this as proof that you are capable of being a really
funny guy. Yeah!
Thank you. This is from Trevor.
Was I laughing at your joke
or just that Dave continues to leave the show?
50%
of each.
I'm not on the show tomorrow. Should I just prepare to jump in
halfway through?
I don't know. I think we're going to have to
have Dave do it from home tomorrow.
From Trevor.
Hey, Ryan, Steve,
Vince, Marcus, and Jake.
Oh, those are
definitely Titans quarterbacks.
Ryan, Steve,
Vince, Marcus, and Jake.
Ten teams super
flex half PPR. Three receivers, Vince, Marcus, and Jake. 10 teams, super flex, half PPR,
three receivers, two running backs,
and two flexes, and a super flex.
Oh, you already knew that.
But anyway, a lot of roster spots there,
but it's 10 teams.
Three receivers, two flexes, two running backs,
one super flex.
I'm in win now mode with a good young core at quarterback i have
watson cousins car lawrence and mills nice would you trade trevor lawrence for breeze hall
oh so it's watson lawrence he has watson cousins car lawrence and mills
it is super flex he'd be getting the first pick of the dynasty draft,
which he'd take Brees Hall.
I don't think you could trade Trevor Lawrence though.
Might be a bench player for you.
Now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other option is trade Trevor Lawrence for pick.
No.
For pick 109 and a 2023 late first round pick no so what do you do i mean you don't want
to have five quarterbacks here trade cousins with car cousins see if that gets done okay you know
it's a 12 team league 10 okay so 10 team league so there's more quarterbacks available but you have five of them so um
yeah does he say what pick he has in the first round no actually i mean if you really want
bruce hall you you offer car or cousins and your first round pick for 101 that's something else
yeah all right jamie thank you glad my connection held up for you buddy on one. That's something else. Yeah. All right, Jamie. Thank you.
Glad my connection held up for you, buddy.
We're working on it.
So we'll talk to you tomorrow and we'll be talking about potential workhorse running backs who are potentially not that good.
We'll figure it out.
Jamie and I are actually going to talk about it right now on Fantasy Football Today in
five for some of Dave and Jamie and uh well no
Ben today either wow not not a big crew here I'm Adam we'll talk to you tomorrow on fantasy football