Fantasy Football Today - Sleepers! Also: Points Per First Down and NFL News (08/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 17, 2020

Ready for the late-round picks that will dramatically outperform their average draft position? We've got plenty of sleepers for you on today's show and that starts with Ben (2:06), Jamey (5:30) and Dave (6:24) listing their favorites. We'll tell you why guys like Boston Scott and Josh Kelley should be in your draft queue. Then we'll give you the news and notes (11:15) you need to know as some key WRs are dealing with injuries, T.J. Hockenson's ankle is not 100%, we get some insight on the Bucs TEs and more ... Have you tried a Point Per First Down league (16:50)? We'll tell you some things you need to know and why this format is catching on. Now, on to some more sleepers! Let's discuss three QBs you can get fairly late (21:21). How do we rank Ben Roethlisberger, Jared Goff and Cam Newton and who has the most upside? ... Ben gives us two more WRs he likes as sleepers (32:30), Jamey is moving Chris Herndon up his rankings (40:40) and Dave has two more fun sleepers who could have big opportunities (43:50). And finally we hear from our listeners who submit their favorite 2020 sleepers (49:00). A lot of rookie WRs to discuss! ... Email us at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what I've done with this spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play! Off to the races! Touchdown! Oh, he's done it again! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Big week here on Fantasy Football Today.

Sleepers, breakouts, and busts. I got four sleepers from Dave, Ben, and Jamie today. We're going to talk about some of our favorites. I'm going to read your tweets. I asked you on Twitter who were some of your favorite sleepers this year, and I've got your responses. I also put a Twitter poll up. If you could only put one condiment on a hot dog, which would it be,

ketchup or mustard? And the results are very, very close. So we will take a look at that. Extremely exciting, extremely competitive Twitter poll. Dave, last week I coined a phrase, I'm trademarking it, about sleepers and breakouts. What'd you think of that phrase? It was pretty great, wasn't it?

I think you should say it before I react to it. All right, ready? Because I never sent you my reaction. I think you said clever. Oh, maybe I did. That was it. Really? Because I never sent you my reaction. I think you said clever. Oh, maybe I did. That was it. Really? Did I even say clever?

Check the tape. I'm pretty sure you did. What's the difference between a sleeper and a breakout? Ready? Here we go, guys. TM, sleepers win you weeks. Breakouts win you leagues. Bam!

No? Did you start the show yet? We started. That's going down in history. The last thing you sent me is, LOL, just kidding about the pizza thing. New York pizza is totally overrated, but I've got to play it up since I live in the city. I don't think that happened, and I don't live in the city. I got it right here on the phone. Well, anyway, sleepers can win you weeks. Maybe they can win you leagues as well. You each have

a sleeper quarterback that's going around the different quarterback going around the same ADP. Dave says Goff. Jamie says Ben Roethlisberger. Ben says Cam Newton. We'll talk about them. I'll let Ben Gretsch start. It's the second show of the week. It's a Ben Gretsch show. Who's your favorite? Give me one

sleeper you want to highlight. My favorite sleeper right now is Boston Scott for sure. We kind of thought all offseason the Eagles would add another back. They might still bring in a veteran. We don't know, but Scott is the high value touches I love to talk about with running backs. The receiving and the red

zone work. He's just a perfect example of that. He caught so many passes when he started playing late last year. He had seven green zone touches, touches inside the 10 in the final four weeks, which were like the only real weeks he was playing. And that's not something that is rare for them to do with their pass, pass catching back. They they've always underdug Peterson.

They've done a lot of committing, right? But they've always rotated the green zone. Look specifically, Darren Sproles got a decent amount when he was there and healthy in a similar role. So this guy's like the exact type of touches that I want to see in a player. And then when I don't think people realize that he's a super good athlete, he's supposedly a workout warrior, like really great on the bench and squat and all this stuff. All the things that we kind of love about Austin Eckler. Like if you're looking for the next Austin Eckler, you don't want to pay the All the things that we kind of love about Austin Eckler. Like if you're looking for the next Austin Eckler, you don't want to pay the,

the second round price tag on Austin Eckler. Boston Scott is this undersized, but thick, very athletic, hyper agile, also ran a good 40 yard dash and, and extremely strong undersized back that catches passes and scores touchdowns.

And it has that Austin Eckler profile. If something were to happen to Miles Sanders, this guy could be just a monster. And I just don't think he's getting any respect. The thing that stood out to me, you mentioned that he was thick. I think people look at Boston Scott and they see the numbers from last year and they think, oh, he's like a Sproles clone. And you brought up Sproles too. He was pretty good in short yardage situations.

He had 13 carries on downs three yards to go or closer. And you brought up Sproles too. He was pretty good in short yardage situations. He had 13 carries on downs, three yards to go or closer. Converted 10 of the 13. That's a high rate. That's really good. So kind of does have a physical side to him on top of the pass catching ability. Do you think there's any use for Boston Scott? Because we got the word today from Doug Peterson that Miles Sanders is the guy.

It's no surprise. We know he's going to be a workhorse. Well, at least it seems that way. Is he just a handcuff or someone that's going to be great with an injury? Or is this someone that you actually think that we could start sometimes in fantasy? No, look, if Miles Sanders gets even 75% of the snaps, he's going to pay off his first round ADP. And I still love Miles Sanders.

This is a great offense for, for running backs from the past catching and the goal and the, and the green zone where they're going to score points. We're just hoping that Miles Sanders gets like a 75% rate, but Scott's the kind of player that on, you know, 25% of the snaps could have like an Austin Eckler role. Maybe,

maybe he's hoping for more like 70, 30. I don't think this is a scenario where, like, Sanders, when we say workhorse compared to Doug Peterson's history, like, before Sanders at the end of last year, Peterson in his years with the Eagles had just a couple games here and there where guys ever even got in a single game, any running back got a 60% snap share.

So, again, like, Sanders, if he can average in the 70 to 75% range, that would be huge for Sanders. That's something that I think a lot of people aren't expecting from him because of those committee tendencies. And that would still leave plenty of snaps for Scott.

I like them both. And I think Scott can have a standalone role and still be a handcuff. All right. And he had 24 catches last year. I'm not sure if you mentioned this. 24 catches.

23 of them were in the last four games of the season. So, you know, potential for a lot of catches for Boston Scott. Jamie, your favorite sleeper? Josh Kelly. I just look at the 200 touches that are available in this offense and what the opportunity is for him to beat out Justin Jackson. And so while Austin Eckler should be the star of the Chargers running back group,

I think Kelly will eventually be the star of the Chargers running back group. I think Kelly will eventually be the second guy, and who knows? He may end up being somebody that could be a flex option or a low-end starter for you. Very nice. And you know, why are people taking, before I get to Dave Sleeper, both on NFC and on Fantasy Pros, Justin Jackson is going ahead

of Josh Kelly. Do you think that should be the case, and why do you think it is the case? I think it's because he's the veteran there and he's, you know, been in this offense before, but I think Kelly's going to end up being the better of the two. So I don't have a problem with somebody taking a flyer on Jackson just to see if he is that guy. Again, there's a lot of touches available in this backfield. So

you know, this is a swing for the fence type of play and we'll see if Eckler can hold up as the featured running back. We've never seen him in that role before outside of four games. All right, Dave, you're up. Don't hold me to it that Blake Jarwin is my favorite sleeper tight end of this year, but he's kind of leading the pack right now.

And it's the combination of him just being a big dude with a great opportunity in an offense that he's never, ever, ever going to get double teamed in. It's going to be, you know, linebackers and safety strictly covering him at any point in the on the field and Dak has averaged 106.5 targets to his tight ends over his years as a starter in Dallas no the lowest target total has been 92 it was without Jason Witten the year that

Witten put on some hair and winning them on NI football booth. I think Jarwin could end up stealing some touchdowns away from Cooper and Lamb and Gallup and I think he could end up being a pretty sneaky good fantasy tight end. All right, Blake Jarwin is going on fantasy pros. He's tight end 24 on NFC. He's tight end 18.

So yeah, good value there for Blake Jarwin. All right, so those are some deeper players. Boston Scott, Josh Kelly, Blake Jarwin. Keep your eye on them. We've got a big week here, not only on the podcast, but on Twitch as well. Huge mock draft, Tuesday night, 7 p.m. Eastern.

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So just making sure. So is the Podcast League. Jamie, when is the Podcast League draft? The Podcast League draft is... I'm glad that you're putting me in charge of this. Yeah, I should have looked this up, huh? The Podcast League draft is sometime the week of August 31st. All right, we're going to get you the exact date.

Can you get the exact date while I kill time? I mean, that's up to you. Oh, we haven't picked it yet. No, I just told you that we're going to do the recap of the Podcast League draft that week. So it's up to you to pick the draft date. Ooh, let's pick the... Let me get my calendar out here.

What day is it? August 31st is what? A Monday? It's a Monday. September 2nd is our draft-a-thon, which will be a huge fundraiser. Four plus hours on Twitch, two hours on HQ, so probably not the second. Let's do it September 1st.

What do you say? September 1st, Tuesday night. Everybody good? Sure. Here's the deal. 14-team PPR League, Tuesday night. Everybody good? Sure. All right. Here's the deal. 14-team PPR league, Tuesday night, September 1st, 8 p.m. Eastern.

If you cannot make that draft, please do not apply to be in the podcast league. But if you can, we'd love your submission. September 1st, 8 p.m. Eastern. So again, it's 14 teams. It's PPR.

How do you get in? You can just email us, right? Fantasy football at cbs p.m. Eastern. So again, it's 14 teams. It's PPR. How do you get in? You can just email us, right? Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That's the letter I, not E-Y-E. Cbsi.com. Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Put podcast league in the subject line and submit something. Songs are great. We love when you record songs and sing and play and whatever. They're hilarious. Poems are fun. Pictures are great. Photoshop, whatever. Somebody made a March Madness bracket of all of my terrible takes one time

and got in one of the baseball podcast leagues. I mean, we get really creative stuff. So try to be creative. Also, if you don't want to be creative and you just love the show and you want to be in the league, you can send us one of those. Whatever it is, you know, creativity helps, but it's not the only thing I'll be looking for. Put podcast be in the league, you can send us one of those. Whatever it is, you know, creativity helps, but it's not the only thing

I'll be looking for. Put Podcast League in the subject line and send your submissions in to fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. How many spots are open? Nine, I guess, right?

Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben take five of them and then nine are open. And we also have the For the People League. You gave one away. Oh, right. I think I actually take five of them. And then nine are open. And we also have the For the People League. You gave one away. Oh, right. I think I actually gave two away.

So I think seven are open in that league. I gave one away to Jamie's guy. Jamie gave one away because he's irresponsible and he always does that. And then we had the March Madness winner as well. What did we do for the other draft? You gave two away in relation to me? Not March Madness. The draft.

We didn't have March Madness this year. We had the NFL draft. The NFL draft contest. We had that. So I think we have seven spots there and eight in another league. So 15 total. Sure. And I'll share my spot with somebody too.

Oh, right. Dave likes to do that as well. Okay. Great. We're looking forward to it. You have some time to get them in. News and notes. Doug Peterson said Miles Sanders will be the guy.

But Jalen Hurd, quarterback for the Eagles, he may have torn his ACL. We'll keep an eye on that. That's very unfortunate news. In fact, a lot of injuries today. It really sucks. No, no, no, no, no, no.

The 49ers receiver. Oh! I'm sorry. I heard that just before we went on the show and I guess I heard it wrong. Okay. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry that Jalen Hurd of the Niners okay i apologize so he too he may have torn his acl you thought it was jalen regger no i thought it was jalen hurts the quarterback yeah oh it hurts yeah it hurts jalen why don't you clarify that again adam go ahead jalen heard of the 49ers may have torn his acl missed this whole rookie season intriguing you know mid-rounder i think it was a third rounder but missed this whole rookie season last year big bummer he's going to miss the second season too yeah um deandre hopkins and aj green both have hamstring injuries being called minor right now precautionary guys tj hockinson's ankle

still not a hundred percent what do you make of that? Not so good. I'm not thrilled about it. I've been drafted a lot of TJ Hawkinson. All right. That's disappointing. But does it remind you a little bit of George Kittle, who got hurt? It's a little different.

It wasn't a lingering injury, but he was hurt going into his second season. He fell a little bit in drafts, and then he ended up being an elite breakout. Right. Anything's possible when it comes to injuries. Right. He wasn't hurt as a rookie.

Listen, Derek Henry last year had a calf injury. He was in a boot, I think, during training camp, and then he is a house of fire when the season starts. You just don't know. If he continues to practice and maybe starts to feel better in a week or two, then it's not a big deal. I really love you spinning a bad injury news into something positive

because he comps well to George Kittle. That was great, Adam. It made me feel good as a Hawkinson guy. Yeah, there you go. Well, sometimes people can overreact to injuries, especially when the injuries are to backup quarterbacks that didn't actually get hurt, but share a similar name to other players who were injured.

Here's what Peter King said about the Buccaneers tight ends. I'd bet Howard plays the most snaps of the tight ends with Brait maybe a few more than Gronkowski, but that's just a guess. What do you think? Interesting. I don't know. And Gronk apparently had a tough time getting through practice today.

Yeah, I'm going to move Gronk down based on that, to be honest with you. It's not that surprising to hear. And OJ Howard is still very talented. They didn't show any real interest in trying to get rid of him this offseason. So maybe they're just going to use Gronk in a part-time role. I don't really want to have him ranked as a top 12 tight end right now doesn't matter of what role he's in i mean if he's you know playing on obvious passing downs red zone threat right it's the return value but this

isn't encouraging if you're targeting gronk yeah i mean he could be like a better version of dallas goddard kind of but like i don't i don't want goddard in my top 12 tight ends either for that reason i want guys that are going to play every snap you know right it could be like a better version of Dallas Goddard kind of, but like, I don't, I don't want Goddard in my top 12 tight ends either for that reason. I want guys that are going to play every snap, you know? Right. It could be something that they work them up to, you know what I mean? Clearly after a year off,

they have serious playoff, you know, aspirations based on the moves that they've made. So you want him playing a heavy amount of snaps, November, December, as opposed to September, October.

How many practices have the Bucs had? One. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let's see what happens. If this is still something that's happening by the time we get to practice number six or seven. Well, nothing has happened.

It's just a report. Right. Well, I mean, yeah, Peter King's guess is the report, but you said that grock had a hard time getting through practice yeah the report said he was you know struggling a little bit so yeah like to me that matters more and if he's still struggling by the time we get closer to the season then absolutely he's not going to be an every down but it's such a weird situation too because he came back from a year off and he's so much smaller he's lost weight and they have talented

tight ends two good ones on the roster so we were all just kind of assuming okay well Gronkowski's back is going to be their number one so for me it's not like this is uh going against something that we already knew this is like the first information we have and it's oh wait Gronkowski might not even be their number one tight end he might just be a rotational player that's a little bit scary for me and on the flip side of that is good for Godwin and Evans. Okay. Good point. Some defensive injuries.

This is a sad story. Jacksonville defensive lineman, Ronnie Gunter, he can't play. He has a heart condition and could suffer a very serious injury if he does play. And he doesn't know if he can even have the surgery.

You can read the details about it because his heart is not enlarged quite enough. It was wild. And it's unfortunate. And it's another hit for the Jaguars defense. Meanwhile, the Cowboys,

they went, they made a lot of additions to their defensive line. One of them was Gerald McCoy at defensive tackle. He's out for the season with a ruptured quad Philadelphia, defensive tackle, a defensive lineman, Javon Hargrave. He's out multiple weeks with an upper body injury.

And, uh, there was a say Robert Alford for the Cardinals Torres pectoral is that right yeah yeah for the record second or third corner we're not sure which yet but he might not be there any corner if

he's not playing yeah just just before the show I got a little bit of a news dump from these guys so I apologize if I made some mistakes there especially with the Jalen Jaguars also lost Josh Oliver to Broken Foot. To tight end. That's right. Tyler Eifert, week one streamer.

Yeah. Who are they playing week one? Colts. Yep. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, that's, God, the Colts are going to kill them.

Okay. So we're getting, before we get into sleepers, we're getting a lot of emails recently about points for first down. And this is trending a little bit good it should why because we've seen now that the screen game is becoming a bigger part of the nfl and players getting a full point for catching a pass that the ball will travel 10 12 yards whatever, whatever, sideways, laterally, but the gain is for one or two yards.

It's not anything special. It's not great. It's kind of cheap points. And for some receivers and some players, not just receivers, that's the basis of their fantasy value is just that volume of catches. First downs are an actual positive stat you're contributing to the team. A lot of receivers average well over, well, most receivers average over 10 yards per catch.

That means that most of their catches are good for first downs, not all, of course. But I think that it's just a better way to play fantasy with the first downs counting versus the catches. There's too many catches, but you want to have something to supplement yardage

and touchdowns. I think first downs fits the catches. There's too many catches, but you want to have something to supplement yardage and touchdowns. I think first downs fits the bill. Well, I don't think you should do both catches and first downs counting, but it's just like gives so much weight to these elite players to get a ton of touches. You can do half.

Yep. That's what Scott Fish does in the Scott Fish Bowl. And I was going to give the counter to Dave, actually, which would be first downs are another thing, much like touchdowns where the guy who basically did the most to earn it doesn't always achieve it. So like with touchdowns, a lot of times we see long receptions down inside the five and then some running back runs it in.

That happens almost even more with first downs. Running backs have a really high first down rate in part because anytime there's like an eight yard catch on first down is probably going to be a run for the first down from second and two or third and two quarterbacks run for a decent number of first downs as well. And I, I like the first down theory, but I also think that it just kind of leans more towards like a, you know, rewarding these plays that are like these two yard dives up the middle for first downs, it rewards short yards backs a little bit more. So you got to think about how it plays out and,

and the way that, that Scott fish has done it in the Scott fish bowl is half point PPR, half a point for a first down. And I think that's a really good way, really good compromise personally. All right. But the last point is Lamar Jackson. Could he be the number one pick?

Because I find it a little bit difficult to find first down stats, but NBC Sports seems to have it. I've seen NBC Sports and I saw another website and they weren't the same. So I don't know what to believe. But according to NBCSports.com, here are your rushing first down leaders. Ezekiel Elliott,ott chris carson derrick henry lamar jackson and he had 71 rushing first downs so i mean that's just a huge edge that's if you're playing half a point for first down that's like six touchdown passes in a six point per passing touchdown league so i don't know like he's got to be the number one quarterback i feel like that settles he's a first round pick he's a first round pick for me in that format if it's full point for for rushing first down i mean yeah for me he'd be a first round pick

but even if it's a half point i mean that's 71 first downs you know that's just crazy um he i don't think people realize how much he runs but i i'm also in a league with 0.25 points per carry i did a draft and i took him in the second round because of all quarterbacks he had 170 carries i think last year only one other quarterback had 100 yeah he had 176 one other quarterback had 100 it was josh allen he had like 105 and and and jackson had 176 in 15 games just just anything that gives you points for carries jackson's going to give a massive boost over all the other quarterbacks okay so i'm trying to look at the receiving first downs. Michael Thomas had 91. Julio Jones had 77.

There were two wide receivers with more than 70. And there were like four running backs with more than 70 first downs or something like that. So it's a new format, new-ish, and catching some attention. Three running backs plus Lamar Jackson had 70 or more rushing first downs. Those guys who get a lot of touches are going to be even more valuable. Okay, we got some sleepers to get to here.

And let's do it. Dave, Jared Goff is your quarterback sleeper. Jamie, Ben Roethlisberger is yours. Ben, Cam Newton is yours. They're practically going back to back to back, and they're all like QB 17 through 20 in ADP. Jamie, why don't you... Hands up to 13 on our

side. Wow. Wow. All right. Well, Jamie, who's your favorite? I know you had Roethlisberger. That doesn't necessarily mean he's your favorite, but who are you taking first? Yeah, Roethlisberger's That doesn't necessarily mean he's your favorite, but who's, who you taking first? Yeah. Roethlisberger is my favorite cam. Second golf is third,

but I like all three. I think all three have a chance to be, you know, top 10 ish caliber quarterbacks. If things go, things go their way. Cam has the highest ceiling of that group. I mean,

just because of what he does as a rusher. So if cam hits, you're going to be thrilled about it, but you know, it's, it's hard to say cam's going to hit based on what we've seen from him. And the fact that he's switching teams, but I think he to say Cam's going to hit based on what we've seen from him and the fact that he's switching teams, but I think he's perfect

if you wait on quarterback and you want to take two guys if you're taking him as one of the two. Dave, how do you rank those three? Goff, Roethlisberger, Cam Newton? Roethlisberger's at the top. No doubt about it, although I am a little worried about him having huge numbers

just because he rarely had huge numbers before Antonio Brown became a thing in Pittsburgh. Golf will be next. Cam is last. I'm not going to be in the Cam Newton drafting business this year. I'm sorry. I don't believe it. Because I decide completely different offense in theory. I'm sure they're going to do some things that he's used to doing.

Not sure how long of how much playing time we'll get. If he makes a bunch of mistakes, receiving core leaves a lot to be desired. He doesn't have that reliable tight end. And I don't know how good of an army's got or how much he'll run his shoulder and his foot have given him problems last two years. And he hasn't been prolific as a rusher partially because he hasn't been on the field as much. So too many questions for him. It's hard to fall anybody that takes him with a late pick.

Let me put it that way. When I hear him as the 13th quarterback off the board, I get nervous. I think that that's a little too soon. Any player, once you get to round 10 plus, there's not a lot of risk. So you draft him and he stinks for a few weeks. So what? You cut him and you go pick up somebody else. But I think Roethlisberger and Goff, they certainly feel safer. feel safer and in the case of golf i think there's actually some upside for him to be

a good fantasy quarterback you want to talk about a team that's got a lot of weapons around them questions in the run game i know the o-line is a question mark too but he he made amends for that late last season and he ended up putting up good numbers i think the reliance on higby is a factor and honestly i think they should get gerald everett involved a little bit more too and they're gonna throw a lot he's got good receivers and we've seen it from him before and i just think it's excellent value to get jared golf later in drafts the fact what's his adp right now it's got to be after round 12 no one's excited i don't really look at the drafting him i don't really look at the rounds with qb adp because I feel like it just depends on your draft.

But he's like QB 18. Right. So I think that that's like a really safe sleeper quarterback to begin the year with. Gets Dallas in week one, and now they don't have Gerald McCoy anymore. One less problem for that line. Ben, I'll get your rankings of those three.

I just want to say, Goff had two wide receivers who finished top 16 in PPR last year. Over the last five years, there have been 10 quarterbacks that have had two wide receivers finish top 16 in PPR, right? Two teammate wide receivers.

Goff is the only one of those 10 that didn't finish in the top 12. Right. He had a murderer's row of defenses in the middle of last season. And after he got done playing Bears, Ravens, 49ers, and maybe the Steelers were in there too, he was fine.

And he was pretty good before then as well. I'm not saying that he averaged 23 points per game in those non-four games. There it is. And then when he played the 49ers again, he hit 23 points against them. I believe that he does have a chance to finish as a top 12 fantasy quarterback anybody who's getting picked that late in drafts and has the potential to be a top 12 quarterback fits the bill i think rothlisberger's got it i think goff's got it yeah actually goff is the

14th quarterback on cbs yeah. Rather of him than Cam? Go on, Ben. How would you rank them? So I really came around to Goff. Anyone who's been listening all offseason knows Stafford was kind of my first favorite late-round QB. His price rose to where it's been pretty comfortably like QB 12, QB 11. Goff has been like QB 18, QB 19. In the last week over at NFC. There's been 40 drafts.

He's been QB 15. I actually haven't ranked QB 14. So like Dave said, you know, could it be QB, you know, top 12 QB? Yeah. I'm like, I have golf ranked for QB 14. I have for a couple of months. I think he's a great option, but he's, he's going in some formats. I mean, maybe not on CBS, but he's going QB 15.

Newton's still sitting back in QB 19 over on NFC and those 40 drafts. Roethlisberger is right in between a QB 17. I would go. I actually have Newton up at QB 13 in my ranks. So I have Newton golf and then I have Roethlisberger QB 16, not far behind. I also really like Roethlisberger for the reasons Jamie said, and he could come back, but yeah, these are three of my favorite late round targets. It's almost like, which one can you get latest?

But I do think in some cases, and the reason that Cam Newton would be the one that I would call my favorite sleeper, he's the one you can get the latest. He's going still pretty late in some formats that are still pretty competitive. I don't know that there's a guarantee that he's going to win the job. And I don't really care because if he doesn't win the job and one QB leagues, I will cut him before week one. And I'll add somebody off waivers like Gardner Minshew or like Tyra Taylor. Like I'm not worried about starting somebody like that in week one. We've talked about that on several shows, but Newton is the one, like Jamie said, who has the most upside. If he does start, the Patriots are very creative at how they use players like this unique players. They always have been, um, obviously they never had anyone directly like Newton and, and Dave made

a comment that his, his rushing has been a little bit down. It's actually been really consistent. He's had at least four rushing touchdowns every year of his career until last year. And he's had at least 350 rushing yards every year of his career until last year. And over 480 every year except one other one. So even as he's 31 years old, I'm expecting them to build an offense around using his physicality where he runs for 400-plus yards and he runs for four or five touchdowns minimum. And I think there's upside for Bill Belichick to be like, this is our goal linebacker and he runs for 10 touchdowns.

Like, I really think that's a possibility. We'll see if he even wins a job, like we said, but like we've talked about this before as well. Every year he's played 16 games, he's been a top five quarterback. That's massive upside with that rushing floor i referenced this uh previous show that uh in our magazine draft that's on stands now uh chris towers took cam newton and jared goff and that's the perfect way to play a weight on qb scenario and take two guys that are not ranked in the top 12 and in some cases could be ranked outside the top 15 so you know you're you're playing what i think is is a pretty good floor for golf and a very high

ceiling as well and a very high ceiling for cam newton with a little bit of a lower floor so it's it's the way you it's the way you do it if you're not going to get one of your top tier guys and so like you could you could go any of the two of the three that we mentioned throw daniel jones in there because he's a similar type of guy ben mentioned gardner minshu is another similar type of guy just based on his rushing ability these are the type of quarterbacks that will help you maybe not be league winners, you know, depending on how things go. But if they finish around the top 10 based on the value,

you're thrilled. And Ben, I got to give you credit. Roethlisberger. Belichick's been looking for a goal line back for a while. He thought it was Sonny Michel. Sonny stunk at it. They drafted Damian Harris. He couldn't get on the field. It makes sense that they would turn to Cam when they're at the one yard line.

That does make sense. So maybe I'm kind of thinking that might happen. So, so, okay. So let's, if we project him for 400 rush yards, which I don't know, some people might be expecting more than that from Cam. I think that's a fair number to look for and maybe six rushing touchdowns. What do you think he can deliver through the air? I'll open the door to have my mind changed,

but I'm nervous about that passing game not being so prolific for him. We just saw a guy have a career season, a record-breaking season, with 3,000 and 1,200, right? With Lamar Jackson? Yeah. Sure. First guy to ever do that? Yeah, but Cam's not getting 1,200.

I would think Cam, if he doesn't get 3,000 yards, he's missing time. No, he's usually like a 3,900-yard passer. Yeah, but that's when he's MVP-type player. Okay, so what do you think it'll be? I would say like 3,200, 3,300. That's it? 3,300 is 20 touchdowns? 20 passing touchdowns?

I'd probably go under on that. Oh, that's terrible. I think he's going to be like 608. 608? That would be really good. That would be really good. Maybe eight touchdowns

happens if he stays healthy. What Ben said, it does make sense. Belichick just says, you're my hammer at the one. Go get it, Cam. Hand the ball to a fan in the stands each time you score, but I don't see the yardage. Well, that's not going to happen. There's one thing that he's not

going to do this year. It's handed to a fan in the stands. I bet he does. I don't think there's going to be any fans in the stands. Sorry, I'm living in another year, I guess. Hey, look, it's like they've ruled out fans for the whole season. Look, I've been positive about the whole quarantine the whole time.

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on the ground. And he finished top 10 for sure. He finished top 5. If he played 16 games, then he'd finish top 5. 2017, 2018 was an even better year before he got hurt.

He was playing great. Completion percentage was way up. All that. I hope he can throw for more than 3,200 yards. Yeah, Cam was QB2 that year. That's how big 750 and 6 is as far as rushing. And that wasn't even a good passing

year for him. That's in 4-point touchdown leagues. In 6-point, he was QB4. But, yeah. Okay, let's get some more sleepers here. So far, we've heard Josh Kelly for Jamie, Boston Scott for Ben, Blake Jarwin for Dave. We just talked about Cam Newton,

Ben Roethlisberger, and Jared Goff. Ben, give me a third sleeper. I'll go with Christian Kirk. We've talked about him quite a bit and fairly recently, so we can do it kind of quick. But basically, he talked about him quite a bit and fairly recently, so we can do it kind of quick. But basically, he was very efficient as a rookie and not last year, and a lot of that had to just do with his deep ball efficiency,

which is a pretty small sample typically in a given year. And if you look at the two years combined, he's slightly better than league average at deeper depth so far in his two years. And he was also dealing with a nagging ankle injury throughout most of last year. Was there clear number one receiver last year, led the team in targets. Obviously Fitzgerald was moving around in the,

in the slot. But with, with Kirk, you basically have a guy going into year three, going to have a role in this offense. Not going to have as much defensive attention. Now that Deandre Hopkins is there, I think the offense is going to throw more and, and frankly be a lot better this year than it was in year

one under cliff kingsbury and i think kirk's like the the perfect guy to buy into especially if you take kyler murray in drafts i love to stack him with kirk because murray's upside i think is really tied to this passing offense exploding and and that would be tied with kirk breaking out and i think that's going to happen frankly would you Would you rather have Christian Kirk or a Giants wide receiver? Kirk. Christian Kirk or Brandon Cooks? Kirk. Oh, okay.

Christian Kirk or Debo Samuel? Kirk. Any disagreements from the crowd? Yes. Go on. I'll take Kirk over Debo, but i'll take everybody else ahead of kirk i just don't think the opportunities are going to be there for him i got to be consistent with my message with hopkins kirk's good he's not great he had a chance to be great last year

he didn't come through very often he's been inconsistent i'd love to see it happen for him he's gonna have to be really efficient because his targets aren't going to be as high. How many targets do you think he gets, Ben? Probably not a ton. I'll look at my projections right now, but I would guess in the 100 to 110 range, but I think he can be pretty efficient on that. I have him at 113

and that's like where he was at last year. I think he was like 109 or something. He'll probably get some carries. He was actually second behind Fitzgerald, but per game, he was better than Fitzgerald because he missed the three games. Gotcha. Yeah, but he will get some rushing work as well, I think.

And so, yeah, I mean, not a ton of targets, but I think he can be efficient on them. He's fascinating because, you know, I think we do this too much. Like, we write off the second guy whenever somebody big is brought in and you're right. He's in, in his third season. Like I don't think he's going to be league winning good,

but he could be in that borderline number two wide receiver three range. It's going to come down to how many targets Hopkins gets. I mean, you know, it's the same, same thing I've been saying all along too, you know, to, to echo Dave's point of being consistent. You know, I don't think Hopkins is coming in and getting 150 targets so larry fischel has never had under 100 targets in his career uh that's going to come down you know this will be the first time it happens which is understandable he's he's at this age and you know playing because he still loves the game but how far down does he come does he go from 105 or whatever it was to 60? Does he go from 105 to 80? Does he go from 105 to, you know, 90?

You know, that's, to me, that's the key to it all is where does Fitzgerald fall? Because I don't think Kirk is going to regress target-wise. I think he'll be right about the same. So he's going to get 100, say 80 for Fitzgerald. And then where does, you know, Hopkins end up? Where's his ceiling, you know? And I think a big part of it is,

are they going to add pass attempts? And we've talked before, but I should probably reiterate for the the new august listeners they were fourth in situation neutral pace last year which means between snaps they took the fourth smallest amount of time they were quick but they didn't control their drives long enough they didn't keep the ball to actually run a lot of plays. They were, I think, 21st in total play volume. This is a team that wants to play fast, just didn't actually execute. I think this year with Hopkins,

if you expect Kyler Murray to be at all better, they should throw more passes. They should be in the upper half of the league in pass attempts as opposed to the lower half of the league. So I'm actually expecting a lot more attempts overall.

I have Fitzgerald at 97 targets. I have Hopkins at 148 and I have Kirk at 113. But even just you you saying that i didn't realize he was at 108 last year and only 13 games i mean kirk was on pace for easily over 120 maybe he was on pace for 130 i can't do the mental math right now but like i don't think people realize he was their clear number one last year and is a big part of their their plans and yet despite that he's only had five or more catches in nine of 25 career games. He's had 10 or more PPR points in 14 of 25 games. That's not bad. If you're looking for 10 PPR

points and trust me, my sleeper, that's where he's going to come in at. But 15 PPR points has done that eight times in his career. That's a 32% success rate yards per route run. I know we debate that stat and whether or not it means anything. Kirk was at 1.41 yards per route run i know we debate that stat whether or not it means anything kirk was at 1.41 yards per route run fitzgerald was at 1.40 both of them after 30th in the league in that stat so i'm a little nervous about him yes he's an athletic talent why haven't we seen it on a consistent basis yet makes me a little worried to take them. I'm curious to see what they're going to do also because what we saw last year when Drake was going well, their rush attempts went from

they were 24.8 for the season but in the final three games, they were averaging over 30 rush attempts per game. And so if their run game is clicking, which I think everybody can't drink. That's bad for all the pass catchers. It's bad for all of them, right? Yeah. Drake had two games

with like 22 carries, right? And they were the only two games that they won in the Canaan Drake. Yeah, he won two of three. Yep. They won two of three. Yeah, he had 12 carries

in week 17, but he had 22 and 24 carries in weeks 15 and 16. Those were Drake's only games with the Cardinals with more than 16 carries, and they were the only two games that the Cardinals won.

Ben's other sleeper wide receiver is LaVisca Chennault. We did talk a lot about him on the wide receiver preview, but I want to give us the 20-second overview of why you think LaVisca Chennault, who, by the way, is not even a top 200 pick. He is super late in a lot of drafts. LaVisca Chennault, why you like him?

Yeah, Kirk's the guy that's a sleeper in every league that'll get drafted. Chennault might be a free, you know, a wave wire guy for some leagues, guy that's a sleeper in every league that'll get drafted might be a free you know a wave wire guy for some leagues but he's a big physical receiver that people have talked about how he's kind of a bulldozer he's good underneath option if he can win that job over DD Westbrook who's a lot older and a lot less productive than I think people recognize Westbrook and Conley on their last years of their contract chanel is the future and this team's going to be looking to the future i think he's a great compliment for dj shark and he's a better downfield receiver than people understand he was a really productive downfield as well

we had uh since adam doesn't let me talk about these guys we had mark long from the associated press on hq let's talk about the jaguars and he he you know kind of echoed what you said there ben but more so on the negative side of things, just about playing time, that he thinks they're going to go with Westbrook and Conley probably more so than we would like to see, just because those guys are proven. Conley's been so good in the community. I know we don't usually talk about those things,

but that matters, I think, to the franchise and the team that's trying to reestablish a fan base after what happened to them over the last couple years. They may give Conley a little bit longer leash. Westbrook's a guy that I think is going to probably be a little bit of a problem for Chenault getting on the field, but future-wise, he could be amazing.

Maybe it's a pick that doesn't pay off in week one. Maybe you don't have to draft him, but be high on LaVisca Chenault. There's a lot of potential there, and he seems like a very good fit for Gardner Minshew, as we've talked about in previous shows. Jamie, you've got two more sleepers other than Ben Roethlisberger

and Josh Kelly. You have Anthony Miller, who is going around the 11th round or so. He's outside the top 40 at wide receiver. On NFC, he's wide receiver 51. Anthony Miller, and you also have. On NFC, he's wide receiver 51. Anthony Miller. And you also have Chris Herndon, who's off of a lot of radars.

Tight end 26 on Fantasy Pros, tight end 20 on NFC, and only played one game last year. But Chris Herndon, he was right. Remember, I keep giving that stat about Noah Fant had the same stats as a rookie as Rob Gronkowski and George Kittle. Well, Chris Herndon pretty much did as well. 502 yards, four touchdowns. Excuse me.

You brought up something quite a bit about Blake Jarwin, who you know I like a lot, in that does he have league-winning upside or does he have the upside just to be the 12th best tight end? And I started thinking about that a little more and I think he kind of falls in line of a guy that could end up being more 10 to 12 as opposed to maybe top 10 type of player.

The targets would be there for him. They've made that point and i think that's you know kind of where i come out on it but i move herndon into my top 12 ahead of blake jarwin because you look at first denzel mims is hurt now so there's there's a guy that's going to miss time uh you mentioned what herndon did as a rookie go back to last year uh ryan griffin played nine games with sam donald healthy he had five touchdowns Griffin played nine games with Sam Darnold healthy. He had five touchdowns in those nine games. So they're going to throw to the tight end quite a bit. We know what Adam Gase and Sam Darnold, I think, like to do.

It's inside out as opposed to outside in. And so while Jameson Crowder should be their number one guy, I think you make a case that Herndon is their number two guy. And reading the practice reports from the last couple of days, they've moved him everywhere. They played him in the slot. They played him outside. They played him in line. They, you him in the slot. They've played him outside. They've played him in line.

They've, you know, using him just all over the formation. And maybe that's because of, you know, Mims not being on the field. But we know what Broussard Perryman's career has been. And Mims, you know, may take some time. And now the injury could set him back a little bit. I mean, there's a big opportunity here for Chris Herndon. And so he's the type of guy I think that does have league winning upside. And so I'll take a shot on him as in that group of

Fant, hopefully Hockinson healthy, Blake Jarwin, John O'Smith but I'm going to take him ahead of Austin Hooper and Jared Cook I think there's more upside with him that's a pretty hot take right there I dig it I like it so you said ahead of Jared Cook and Austin Hooper

you're taking Chris Herndon and then you know Anthony Miller do you like Anthony Miller or Christian Kirk That's bold. So he said ahead of Jared Cook and Austin Hooper, you're taking Chris Herndon. Okay. And then Anthony Miller. Do you like Anthony Miller or Christian Kirk? I like Miller better, but they're kind of in the same spot. You know, number two guys on offense is that I think will throw more than, the Bears I think will throw more maybe than we expect. But I think there's an opportunity for Miller. As we saw last year when Taylor Gabriel was out, you know,

his numbers popped. Targets should be there for him very easily. You know, you look at this tight end group, it's not exactly great. You have an old guy and a young guy that has to prove himself still. There is no third receiver to speak of. I don't think Riley Ridley is going to be that guy. Ted Ginn, we know what he is. He's, you know, basically a one-trick pony. So I think there's a big chance for Anthony Miller to step up in his third season. You know, I like third-year guys. He hasn't proven himself yet over his first two seasons, but he's shown some flashes. But there should be a bigger opportunity

with hopefully better quarterback play. I like Anthony Miller as a fourth receiver with a chance to use him as a number three guy or higher. Dave, two more sleepers from you. One of them, I was like, what? Randall Cobb? I actually would love to change Randall Cobb. I can talk about Cobb if you want.

It's like a late round PPR dart throw just because he's probably the healthiest of the top three pass catchers in Houston at this point. And there's some metrics that I really like about him as far as yards after contact per catch and catch rate, all that stuff from the slot. Just he's an established slot guy. And I think that's going to be his role.

But I think that what's happening right now in New York actually helps Prashad Perryman. And I'd rather get him than Randall Cobb anyway. If I'm going to take a shot on a wide receiver late, let it be one that's got upside. And Perryman's dripping with it after the way that he finished last year. I know that his track record before the end

of 2019 is ugly, but he's got a golden opportunity to be the number one outside receiver for New York. Won't leave the team in catches. That's going to be the number one outside receiver for New York. Won't leave the team in catches. That's going to be Jamison Crowder. Could be second. Certainly should have a better yards per catch average than Jamison Crowder and could certainly score more touchdowns. And apparently Sam Darnold is slinging it in camp so far. So that's a wide receiver. I had to write a story for the site about who's got a shot at 90 catches this year and he was my ultimate dark horse that he and prouder from brashad yes 90 catches i think i

think the time who else is going to catch the ball yeah i know you made a great case for herndon but we've seen herndon flop a four times already it seems like and i don't know if denzel mims is going to be ready to go and i don't really trust any of the other receivers they have there. They're running out of guys there. I said it was a dark horse call, and this is a late-round pick. I'm going to take a shot at Rashad Perriman and a couple of drafts, put him on my bench, and he got 50.

I would be shocked if he had 52. But 90 is really out there. Had to come up with somebody for it. That's who I picked out of everybody in the league. Can I throw one in there? That's not a sleeper, but there's some news potentially. This sounds important. Go ahead. I don't like it.

Kareem Hunt's probably going to be a top 10 running back if this is a problem. Oh, God. He left the field with a trainer. He left the field with a trainer. That's not enough. It could mean an escrow key. It is pouring rain there right now.

Okay. I have Rashad Perryman projected for 49 receptions. I want to say. So I think that double it, baby. Double it. Dave, I'll bet you anything you want that Rashad Perryman does not get the 90 catches. Okay, that's fine. Look, 50 catches from Rashad Perryman can still make for a good at very least bench receiver and

fantasy uh you know perryman is that not well within his 50 is fine right i know he's gonna be a downfield air yards guy too so he you know even if he only got 50 or maybe he catches 60 70 i agree that 90 is silly i agree that 90 is silly and I agree that 90 is silly. And 50 would be surprising. I don't think... How many catches does he have in his career? He might only have like 125. Wait, you had an assignment where you had to pick a wide receiver that was going to get 90 catches?

I had to pick a bunch of receivers that were going to get 90 catches. Anthony Miller also made this list. And I think Jamie would agree that there's a chance that he could get to 90 catches. He had a five-week stretch last year where he was averaging 10 targets per game. So I had to come up with a dark horse for it. And I chose Perryman out of everybody else.

And it wasn't to slight Crowder either. But it is sliding Chris Hearn. I mean, there's 96 targets available with Robbie Anderson gone. No, Demarius Thomas is also gone. And they have a bunch of scrubs. He had like 60 targets last year. It was stupid, but he did. So I think there's something there for Perryman.

It wouldn't shock me if Perryman got 70 catches or 75. I don't think you're that far away from 90. Thank you. It wouldn't be that. That's the point. 90 is an incredible benchmark. People don't just shock us and have 90 catches. It was a tough assignment, Dave, so I applaud your boldness. Now, the Sleeper-o-meter.

I'm going to read the tweets that I got. The sleeper-o-meter. And we'll see what the people are saying out there. Wait a minute. I didn't even mention my sleeper running back. Damien Harris. Yeah, go ahead. Damien Harris might be the most talented running back

for New England outside of James White. Now, we've already made the case on this podcast about cam newton now he's going to get a dozen rushing touchdowns this year so that would hurt damian harris but if sony's hurt lamar's 29 going on he's basically going to be i think he's gonna be 30 during the season i i think that there's going to be an opportunity at some point this year where damian harris is going to be the lead running back for the patriots but you have to say he might be the most talented because he only touched the ball four times last year, which is

I am just I think they were waiting for Sony Michelle to really, really screw up and he never did. Yeah. And Michelle might not be ready for week one. So right. That's an opportunity for Harris if he's the guy. Why did they sign Lamar Miller? It's all dumb.

It is dumb. And I do like Harris. I wasn't trying to dog on that. I loved him in college. Loved him at Alabama. So it's a lot of guy that looked great on film coming out of Alabama. Seems like the Belichick type

of running back that he likes to use on rushing downs. Hopefully the opportunity is there for him. But I wish that Jared Stidham would be his quarterback instead of Cam

because then that would be more touchdowns inside the five. All right. Let's read the tweets now. Who is your favorite sleeper? Or I said, who are your favorite sleepers for 2020? Let's pick a few here.

How about Deandre Washington from KD? KD? KD is the person who tweeted about it. Oh, I thought you meant from KC. Yeah. KD is the person who tweeted about it. Oh, I thought you meant from KC. Yeah, I had to drop him after we read about Daryl Williams being up first.

We'll see. He's got potential to be a sleeper. I like Washington. I like him too, but if Edward Zeller knows what he's doing... Zero to ten on the sleeperometer. Yeah, it's like a five. One. Seven. Zero to ten on the sleeperometer. Yeah, it's like a five. One.

Seven. From fantasy, from Funtacy Fatball, Jarek McKinnon. There's so much hype, but the targets aren't going to be there. Everyone wants him to have a receiving role, but Kyle Juszczyk is involved in the

passing game they've added reed now with kittle um yeah they have all these wide receiver injuries but you can only have so many short area targets and i just don't buy that he's going to have like this massive receiving role that's going to make him fantasy relevant consistently so for me it's like a three 90 catches no it's it's it's going to be like a three for me, too. You see what he said? McKinnon? After getting all his money the last two years and not playing? No.

He said, I'm playing like I'm broke. Okay. Hopefully he doesn't break anything. I love that he's a 10. I love him as a person. Yeah. All right. So not a lot of love there for McKinnon.

How about Henry Ruggs? Eight. Yeah. Five. I don't know what to make of him. I would rather have him than anybody who we've put in front of us, Adam. So seven minimum. Okay, then let me read this one from Craig.

Craig Geo. He's got two rookie wide receivers, Michael Pittman and Justin Jefferson. Let's start with Michael Pittman. Zero to 10. Five on Pittman. Jefferson will be higher. Two. I don't think people are giving Zach Paschal enough love.

And I think Paris Campbell's a slot. And I think Pittman is not going to be the every down player opposite T.Y. Hilton on the other outside spot because I think Zach Pascal is good and they rotated receivers last year. They did like rank. Reich didn't mind rotating.

So I just I have no interest in him. He might be there. These guys by the end of the season, we're going to be more interested in than we are now because we had Stephen Holder from the Athletic on HQ and he said this is just one thing that they've been begging for for the Colts for years is a big receiver. And we know what Rivers is just one thing that they've been begging for, for the Colts, uh, for years is a big receiver. And we know what Rivers has done with these guys in the past. So I don't

know if it's trying to force him on the field, force him in a situation just to see what he can do. Um, but you know, I mean, I know he likes to bring this up. They drafted him over Don Taylor. So clearly there's, there's an interest in, you know, Hilton small, obviously he's their best guy. Campbell small, like Ben said, he could be their slot guy. I think Zach Pascal, while he, he helped himself and maybe showed the coaches something last year, he clearly is the fourth man. If everything goes well for the other three guys. So, um, you know, one thing Steven said to, to, uh,

to me on HQ was they want Michael Pittman to be something. They want them to be Vincent Jackson, which is what they want to be. Mike Williams. They want to be Vincent Jackson, you know, that's whatever big receiver that Phillip Rivers ever played with before. You know,

I'm sure they'd want to be Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne, but you know, he's not going to be those guys, but still, if he could be something that they don't have, that's just different, you know, then,

then they have a big physical presence on the field that can help them in some, you know, spots, red zone, you know, high point plays, you know, whatever the case you want to assign it. Where's Paris? that's just different than they have a big physical presence on the field that can help them in some spots. Red zone, high point plays, whatever the case you want to assign it. Where's Paris Campbell? Where's Paris Campbell

on the sleeperometer? Because I love him. He's like an eight for me. Yeah, he's at least a two. Six, seven for me, at least. Yeah, in that range here. Okay. By the way,

Stephen Holder, who Jamie keeps referencing, went to college with Dave Richard. They never crossed paths. Justin Jefferson is what? Like a six and a half in PPR. He's lower than that in non-PPR. There's so many targets available.

Yeah. And it sounds like he's ready to go. You don't have to worry about him being on the COVID list. He's off that. Coaching staff keeps talking about how slot-ready he is and how he's exactly what they drafted. Yeah. There's a lot of targets available in Minnesota for who?

Diggs? Well, Diggs is gone. Right. Again, we can't just say there's 96 targets available. There's probably more than that because I think they're going to throw more. Well, I mean, there's just a big player who's gone. Yeah, but also...

Thielen had 48 last year. Right, that's the other thing. Thielen barely played last year. So I don't know. You can't just... Right, but they also ran the ball really well last year. And if Cook struggles or goes down, that could be a problem

that they're going to need the receivers to step up. We all think it would be Thielen who would just absolutely run away with it, but Jefferson's a really good, talented player. He's great out of the slot, very quick, can win the jump ball. He's just not a burner down the field, despite what he ran at the combine.

I will say also, I've said this a few times, don't discount Irv Smith, too. He's going to be a big part of this offense. He's kind of the same as Jefferson. He's not as explosive downfield, but he's quick and he's bigger he's he's kind of the same as jefferson he's not as explosive downfield but he's quick and he's bigger obviously so they could certainly find ways to to use him they've got a lot of like unheralded players for fantasy who could end up being good bi-week options or number three receivers jefferson's one of them for sure this is this amazing. Jordan Reed is not practicing already for the 49ers. Oh, no.

By the way, I did read earlier a couple of days ago that the Vikings want to be a little bit more varied. I don't know that they're, you know, the teams say that all the time,

but the plan is to not be so reliant on the run. Okay, we're going to finish the show with the Twitter poll. You can only put one of these two condiments on your hot dog. Which one are you choosing? Ketchup or mustard?

Dave, what would you choose? It's mustard. Ben? That's the correct answer. I also chose mustard. Oh, you voted. Very nice. Jamie? I did vote. I voted also. I voted mustard, but why would anybody have to choose? Come on. Maybe. See results. You only have

one magic packet. Which have packet you put on there voted for ketchup i would have voted for ketchup and uh i want cream cheese and grilled onions on my hot dog that's what i want cream cheese yes i've never had cream cheese on the hot dog you guys gotta have a seattle dog all right so what's on it cream cheese and grilled onions and sometimes jalapenos which are a bomb on there too you uh do you eat bagel dogs ben i don't know what that is wow he's a hot dog you might as well like a bagel dog yeah i'm sure i would that's a hot dog like wrapped the bun just goes around in perpetuity around the hot dog that's a corn dog no not exactly no hot dog comes out at

the end yeah it's not fried yeah corn dogs are amazing uh by the way wait does the cream cheese go on come on before is it like hot cream cheese or cold cream cheese i'm gonna go make this right inside inside of the bun on both sides and then you drop the hot dog in right you put some grilled onions all across the top oh yeah like i, maybe some jalapenos on it. I think it's fine with just cream cheese and onions, man. But some jalapenos are pretty good, too. Okay. Well, that sounds great.

By the way, 51% mustard, 49% ketchup. How about that? Wow. Very split here. Very split. So I'm rooting for ketchup to win it in the end. I don't think it will. Thanks for listening, everybody.

We got breakouts tomorrow. We got to win it in the end. I don't think it will. Thanks for listening, everybody. We got breakouts tomorrow. We got busts later in the week. And I promise you I'm going to try to read your emails, make some time for that at some point this week. Don't forget to check us out on Twitch Tuesday night. Speaking of emails, we're starting. We're back to a full 60 minutes on HQ for FFT. So ask FFT.

We'll be back. So I'm sure Shaggy B will send out some tweets and you guys can ask us questions there if Adam ignores you we won't

oh please I just don't don't either thanks to Jamie Dave and Ben and

Dave and Busters see you later