Fantasy Football Today - Sophomore RBs Could Be Awesome! (02/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

What a group of Year 2 RBs we've got as we could see seven of them drafted in the first three rounds. Dave and Heath have very different orders when it comes to ranking the Top 7 (2:15) including a different name at #1. Is it James Robinson or Jonathan Taylor? How much does Robinson's pedigree and coaching staff matter (12:30)? ... The guys debate Cam Akers vs. D'Andre Swift (19:50) and give their thoughts on Clyde Edwards-Helaire (26:24). Does he still have elite upside? And finally they compare J.K. Dobbins and Antonio Gibson (32:10). And which of these seven RBs has the most downside in 2021 (35:40)? ... There are other sophomore RBs to discuss (41:00) including A.J. Dillon and Salvon Ahmed. We'll also talk Dynasty (55:00)! ... Your emails at [e-mail] Subscribe to the FFT in 5 podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, or wherever you listen to FFT. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @CTowersCBS, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. So last year, according to Fantasy Football Calculator's average draft position in PPR leagues, there were only two sophomore running backs drafted in the first three rounds. Two.

And they were both drafted in the top 12 or 13, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders. We did a draft a month ago, about a month and a half ago now. There were seven sophomore running backs drafted in the first three rounds, the first 36 picks in our PPR mock draft. Unbelievable. All the way from Jonathan Taylor, who was a top six pick, to Cam Akers, who was 36. We welcome you to the show. Yesterday, we talked sophomore quarterbacks. This year, this week, or no, this day, today, there we go, that's the word I'm looking for, today, the year two running backs.

What? Anyway, what's up, Dave and Heath? Dave, welcome back. It's great to be with you here on Sunday, March 32nd of the year 1994. Since we don't know what day or year or whatever the hell you were talking about back then. But this is an exciting group of running backs. And we knew that this was going to be a good class last year not quite at about this time last year but maybe 10 months ago we knew that it was going to be a good class and lo and behold one of the

best running backs in the class wasn't even somebody that we were evaluating at this time that's the beauty of football is that guys can still come out of the woodwork and be great and be ranked just as high as guys that we thought could had a chance to be workhorse studs for the next five years. Heath, what do you think about that? Seven running backs went in the top 36. And I think in a PPR league, I don't think that that's going to be much of an anomaly. There's, there's a big seven, you know, it's Taylor, CEH, Robinson, Gibson, Akers, Swift, Dobbins. It's pretty good. Yeah, I don't know what you guys were talking about. I was looking up a Ringer article,

and it says that actually people don't know what day it is because of the pandemic, and it's completely normal, and you're actually right. Yeah, Dave said something about 10 months ago that feels like yesterday. Yeah, but it is an interesting crop, and I'm going to have to ask you guys to rank the top seven. Are you prepared to do that? Excellent.

Oh, fully. Let's rock. I am. I'm ready. All right. The nice thing is like, I've done it such a great job of ranking them. This won't change from now until you draft in August. This is exactly the order that I will draft them no matter what changes.

It's exciting to hear. I'll, I'll say that I might change these on a you know based on information that i get or things that i learn at any point in the next four months so i'm i'm gonna stay fluid heath you stay rigid should we have a reveal adam which how should we do this uh seven to one or one to seven that's what i'm trying to think right now let's go let's go seven to one okay all right number seven yeah go ahead i have are you want to go first dave i i don't That's what I'm trying to think right now. Let's go 7-1. Okay. Number seven. Yeah, go ahead. I have...

You want to go first, Dave? I don't give a damn. Heath, go first. Number seven, I have Clyde Edwards-Alaire. I have J.K. Dobbins. Okay. Which I hate, by the way. I hate that he's last on any list because I love him,

but it's a situation. We'll get into that. These are PPR, right? Yes, I hate it as well. That's why I have him at number six, J.K. Dobbins. And I've got Antonio Gibson at number six. I have Antonio

Gibson at number five. And I've got Clyde Edwards-Elair at number five. So the bottom three names for Heath and I, Adam, are the same three names just a different order yeah edward z layer dobbins gibson in some order we'll recap the order all right heath who's four number four is cam acres and this is actually like i i think these four guys may change positions quite a bit to me there's there's two tiers with these seven running backs. This is the bottom tier. They all rank for me somewhere between 17 and 23 at running back.

And then the top three are in a different tier all inside of my top 10. And I feel like to me, there's a clear cut. Number one, I'm not going to change who my number one guy is, unless his situation changes. The next three are in a separate tier behind that number one guy. And then the three after so one three and three would be the number of running backs in my rookie or sophomore year we can't call them rookies anymore sophomore year tiers uh and my number four is deandre swift with the lions

okay he's three number three is uh very very difficult for me um I think I'm going to go with DeAndre Swift. Okay. I thought I was about to hear a different name there. I was going to be surprised. I have Akers third. I think he's got a chance to get more work and certainly be a factor in the passing game. He's three for me.

So that leaves only two names now. Yep. And I have, like in my top 100 or top 200 i have these three backs back to back to back so that they're that close um but i've got jonathan taylor at number two wow i've got robinson at two jonathan taylor is my one i put i already wrote james robinson to jonathan taylor one i was just so sure of it. For Heath, now I have to copy and paste. Wow, you screwed me up. Okay, James Robinson 1. That's okay.

And for Dave, James Robinson is 2. And Jonathan Taylor is 1, which is what I expected. To recap, now from 1 to 7, Heath goes Robinson, Taylor, Swift, Akers, Gibson. Who am I forgetting? Dobbins and Edwards. Dobbins and Edwards either. Taylor Swift, Akers, Gibson. Who am I forgetting? Are we getting someone? Dobbins and Edwards. Dobbins, Edwards, Ziller.

There we go. Okay. Robinson, Taylor Swift, Akers, Gibson, Dobbins, Clyde Edwards, Ziller. Dave goes Taylor, Robinson, Akers, Swift, Edwards, Ziller, Gibson, Dobbins. Interesting stuff. All right. Go ahead. Number one, James Robinson.

Why, Heath? Well, first off, this is starting my process, just like it does early in the week, starts with projections. And he was the only running back who was good for a full season. I was looking at it and there's like, for most of these guys,

there was a good six game stretch. Oh, it's so weird. It's almost all of them. It was six games. Yes. It was Taylor, Edward Ziller,

acres, Dobbins and Swift. The five of them, they had a great six game stretch. That's basically what it came down to go on. And really even Clyde Edwards, Lair had a pretty great six-game stretch except for touchdowns to start the year.

The Chiefs used him as a workhorse. And then, nothing else. So I just think with Robinson being that good, that involved in the passing game, and better than Taylor on a per-game basis, even with Taylor's flourish at the end of the year. Um, and now the offense is going to be better. Now they're going to have better quarterback play. Now they're seemingly going to have a better coaching. He might actually even be better.

Okay. Why Taylor over Robinson, Dave? I think he's already in a situation where he can improve and be better in his second season because I mean let's face it there were there were some games in his rookie year where it looked like he didn't know what he was doing he had five games with 14 or fewer touches that's a third of his games overall on the season he finished top 10 in fantasy points ppr points per game and consistency it's hard to find that whole trifecta I'm doing the macho man finger thing here. I don't know exactly why, but I think he showed by the end of the year that he could be dominant. 19 plus PPR fantasy points in each of his final five regular season games. He had 15 PPR points in the playoff games.

He looks legit. The offensive line is good. Will he lose work to Naheem Hines? Yes, it's going to happen. Hines certainly can play in the hurry-up offense. But I think that the Colts, especially with questions at quarterback, and that'll be the case even if they add Carson Wentz, they're going to be a run-focused team. They're going to lean on Jonathan Taylor.

He's a talent. He's great. He's a better pass catcher than we even gave him credit for. He'll get better as a pass blocker this offseason and he's got a chance to finish as a top five fantasy running back i have a hard time saying that about james robinson even though there are some things to really like about robinson with the coaching change that uh that he's talked about yeah you guys think urban meyer or is it the combination of five he was a top five running back on a per game basis last year wasn't he robinson no not according to ff today he was close i'm gonna tell

you i've got him seventh i nope i got him six sixth eighth and nine sixth in ppr he was sixth in ppr fancy points per game seventh overall and 12th in consistency. He was really good. Oh, he was so good. For a little perspective, though, he was 6th per game this year, James Robinson in PPR. You put those same points per game 2019, he would have been 8th. 2018 would have been

9th. So, still great. Still top 10. It was a bad year for running back, so it pushed up a little bit in that regard. I just think, and I know a lot of it's because of his pedigree and this may end up being true in the end, but like I was looking at those six game per game averages and Jonathan Taylor's six game stretch was on a different level than anyone else's six game stretch. No other running back besides Taylor, like Swift's final six games, 17.5 PPR points per game. Akers, if you include his playoff games, 16.3.

Dobbins, 16.6. Dobbins, 16.3. Clyde had a 15.9. Those are like their best six games. James Robinson was 17.8 for the full 14 games that he played. I don't think it's fair to him as the guy that finished sixth in points per game last year to say he just doesn't have

quite the same upside as the other guys. Yeah, but he had... Okay, so his 16-game pace, Robinson, was 1,616 total yards, 56 catches, 11 touchdowns. Clyde Edward Ziller, before the Le'Veon Bell trade, was on pace for 1,819 total yards,

203 more yards than Robinson was on pace for. The same amount of catches, eight fewer touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor, in those six games, was on pace for 2,232 total yards. He's not going to get that. That's 600 more than what James Robinson was on pace for. I mean, that's the floor. And I'm just wondering if James Robinson hit his ceiling.

The guy had five carries inside the five-yard line all year. He scored on every one of them. He was the only running back with five or more touchdowns inside the five that had fewer than eight carries. So he was lucky in that regard. He had no competition. I mean, this guy got basically every single running back carry for the 14 games he played. You look at number two on the team was Daria Gumbawale, who had 32 carries. 28 of them came without Robinson in week 16 and 17 James and Chris Thompson missed half the year too.

So is there a scenario where this guy is going to get that, that number of, that percentage of touches? I'm just wondering if, if James Robinson did as well as he possibly could have as a rookie, it's possible that he did. There were like, still,

even with what you said, and he did get most of the touches, there were still a third of the games that he played in where he played 62% of the snaps or fewer. There were games early in the year where they were throwing the ball to Chris Thompson. There were games late in the year where they were working in a Goomba wall. So I don't know, not, not without, not without a Robinson week 14, he played 56% of the snaps. Week 15, he played 62% of the snaps. Right, but I'm saying the carries.

He got almost every carry for the team when he was healthy. That may be true, but in those two games, he had 28 carries combined. It's not like he was getting 25 carries a game. Yeah, he wasn't a workhorse like Taylor was. And they were a terrible team. I mean, they had the fewest rush attempts in the NFL. And he finished as a top eight running back. That is amazing.

Do you worry about the pedigree? Do you worry about him being a one-year wonder? Because every other guy we're talking about was a top 66 pick, Gibson being the last in that group. Most of them were first or second round. Most of them were second round picks. Do you worry about Robinson being an undrafted free agent and Philip Lindsay couldn't

really back it up? You know, you see, I don't know. Are you worried about it? To be fair, Lindsay didn't have a year quite like what Robinson had. No, he's a great rookie year, but not like this. You're right. So I feel, I got a lot of feels on James Robinson.inson on one hand the track record of guys that come out of nowhere um they have a hard time sticking around at that same level in the years following and i don't have you know hard data to back that up but think about the best running backs in the nfl how few of them are undrafted running backs you've got guys like uh a Foster, who sustained success for a long time. I think that was the system that he was in.

I think the system that James Robinson is going into will be a huge factor, along with what the new coaching staff in Jacksonville decides to do at the running back position. If you look at the depth chart and you're Urban Meyer, and you've got James Robinson at the top, and the guys behind him are the Dario Gumbawales and the Divino Zigbos of the world, you're urban Meyer and you've got James Robinson at the top and then the guys behind them are, you know, the Daria Gumbel wall is, and the divine was Igbo's of the world. You're going to replace them. They're going to find other running backs to come in and not necessarily come to a 50, 50 split with James Robinson. Because one thing that urban Meyer has talked about is having that horse and think back to his great running backs at Ohio state. He likes having that lead guy, but he also likes having, um, he also likes having a mobile quarterback and that area that you were talking about, Adam, where James Robinson was so efficient

on those short yardage runs, he's going to lose work there. So he might get more carries inside the five, but he will also lose work there, assuming that it's Trevor Lawrence or even if it's Justin Fields as the quarterback in Jacksonville. This is what Urban Meyer does. He constantly wants to have a mobile quarterback. You look at his track record, almost all of his quarterbacks from Bowling Green all the way through to Ohio state, those guys would move and they would score touchdowns. And Trevor Lawrence did a ton of that at Clemson. So it would be a seamless fit for Lawrence to come in, run the zone, read inside the five Robinson ends up with a handful of air and it's Trevor Lawrence running in for a short yardage touchdown. That'll hurt Robinson. If the Jaguars find another running back that they like better than James

Robinson, obviously that'll hurt James Robinson. We need to find out if urban Meyer and company are just in love with James Robinson, because if they are, then it's going to be smooth sailing. He'll be worth a first round pick. But if they don't, and we'll get an idea of this based on what they do in free agency and in the draft and how they add running backs to their team. If they don't see him as a workhorse guy in the same vein as Ezekiel Elliott and Carlos Hyde and other backs that Urban Myers had, then you will see a split. And where did Darryl Bevel just come from?

He was in Detroit for three years. He couldn't find that stud workhorse like he had with Marshawn and AP back in the day. He rode multiple guys. He'll keep doing that if that's what it takes to win in Jacksonville, which, by the way, will be a team. They'll be balanced. Urban has always been a big fan of running the football. But if they draft Trevor Lawrence, you know that they're going to put the ball in the air a decent amount of the time,

and that'll hurt any running back that's in Jacksonville as well. I just said his team ran fewer than any other team in football. So it will go up. They won't be 32nd again. Also, they were 30th in scoring. I looked at the last six seasons. How many running backs can finish in the top 12 and be in a bottom five scoring offense?

There's one a year, basically. And the last time somebody finished higher than Robinson on a bottom five scoring offense was Todd Gurley in his rookie year, which was six seasons ago. And he was a little bit better than Robinson in non-PPR. He was about a point and a half worse per game in PPR. So that's how great of a season it was for Robinson. Really just blew our minds and good for him. Very impressive stuff. We could probably spend a whole hour talking about him. Let's talk about Jonathan Taylor, who you have second. I know

you think that people taking him in the top six or so might be reaching a little bit. And in those last six games, like I've said, he was on pace for 2,200 total yards, but only 37 catches. So is that what what's holding you back? The catches?

Well, it's the catches. And with all of these guys, like when we were, I didn't get the word in, but when we were talking about these, that's okay. When we're talking about these paces that guys were on a 14 game pace is at least doubly more for the best six game pace of a player's season and saying they're going to do anything close to that over a full season. I think Taylor's situation is a little bit different because he was an elite prospect and he was a rookie and we did have the pandemic and it shouldn't be that surprising that he got off to a slow start and then finally

figured it out. But I do think that also such a large percentage of that is based on week 17 against jacksonville but that has to be factored in a little bit as well like was it i thought he was good pretty much every week so he was good yes but he became like that six game stretch has that type of pace because he had 253 yards in. It was only one of two games over a hundred yards that he had in that six game stretch. You're right. He did score seven touchdowns in his last four games.

Another thing that's not going to be sustainable. Yeah. Sure. 16 game pace. If you throw out week 17 is almost400 total yards and 11 touchdowns. Yeah, that's not nearly as good as 2,200 total yards. You're talking about his 16-game pace. You're just taking his last five games

instead of last six games. That's what you're saying? Or your full season? No, I'm saying the entire season. Oh, well, I guess... Weeks one through fifth, games one through fifth. No, so I... Right, I look at Jonathan Taylor of as week 11 on hoping that that's the kind

of work you're going to get, not the 30 carries against Jacksonville, but, uh, you know, routinely 16 or more carries or something like that. And I, yeah, I want to clarify, like when I argued about the James Robinson upside, I do think Jonathan Taylor has as much upside as just about any running back in football, except for the nine teams Heinz factor. Like I think he could be viewed by the end of next year as in the conversation for the best running back in football.

He's, he's incredible. That's why you've got to take them. I'm sorry to cut you off Heath, but that that's why you've got to take him high to me. That's why you've got to take them higher than James Robinson, that's why you've got to take him higher than James Robinson is because he does have the potential to be the number one running back in the game. Does he, though?

Does he have to be Derrick Henry, basically, because he just won't catch enough passes? I think he might. I think he could end up catching a decent amount of passes. He could be Derrick Henry with a splash of Saquon Barkley. That just makes me drool all over the place.

So you guys have one and two flip-flopped for Heath. It's Robinson Taylor for Dave. It's Taylor Robinson. You also have three and four flip-flopped acres and Swift for Dave acres, three Swift, four and Swift, three acres for, for Heath and Heath.

You want the first word here? Why Swift over acres? Yeah. for Heath. And Heath, you want the first word here? Why Swift over Akers? Yeah, I wouldn't really make any argument strongly for Robinson over Taylor. I think they were right there back into the first round. This is the one where I probably have the biggest disagreement.

Swift's best six games were better on a per-game basis than Akers. Well, it doesn't matter on a per-game basis. Were better in PPR than Cam Akers were. And he was better than Cam Ak game basis than acre. Well, doesn't matter on a per game basis. We're better in PPR than cam acres were. And he was better than cam acres before that stretch. And he's shown us the ability to thrive in the passing game. And he has a new offensive coordinator that loves, loves,

loves to throw the ball to his running backs. And it's talking about 25 touches a game for Deandre Swift. So I, I think Swift belongs in the Robinson Taylor discussion. But I also thought Swift was more talented than Akers coming into the NFL. And so he was also better than Akers in a worse offense last year. I think DeAndre Swift is in a different category than Cam Akers. I think he could end up being way better in PPR, but I'm nervous, Heath. I'm nervous about

trusting him. I'm nervous about trusting anybody in Detroit. I think Detroit's going to be a bad team this year. Adam has already talked about and mentioned how running backs on bad teams typically do in fantasy, and there's one per year that ends up being great. Maybe Swift will be the guy, but there's good stuff that I really like about him too and i agree with you that in the draft process last year i like swift better than acres just as a talent standpoint goes he averaged three and a half receptions per game in 2020 he had at least three catches in each of his final 10 games so we know that he could have um that type of role that passing downs role that we saw austin e Eckler have in LA

with Anthony Lynn, who's now in charge of calling that offense in Detroit. I also like this stat. Nine of his 10 touchdowns, guys, were from inside of 10 yards. Those are his total touchdowns. All of his rushing touchdowns were from six yards. I know. I saw that too. But how about this?

The Lions last year had 17 running back rushing touchdowns, which blew my mind. That's as many as they had in 2018 and 2019 combined. So that was very unusual. And Peterson, I think, had seven of them, and Swift had eight of them. They had 17 as a team. This is usually a team that's under 10 rushing touchdowns per year. You have to go back to 2013 that they had more than 10

or more than 11 rushing touchdowns by running backs. So I don't know what to make of that, but that was extremely unusual. Whereas the Rams, four years under McVay, running back, just running back rushing touchdowns, 15, 19, 17, and 12. So the funny thing about what he said about acres or about Swift being better than acres in those last six games, which is six regular season games for Swift for regular season and two

postseason games for acres is that it was really the touchdowns that were the biggest difference. And that'll continue to be the difference because what do you mean? You think more touchdowns that were the biggest difference. And that'll continue to be the difference. What do you mean? You think you'll get more touchdowns for Swift? Because I think more touchdowns for Akers in 2021. That's what I'm getting at. And that's part of the reason. I think Akers can be better as a pass catcher, too. He only caught 11 passes in the regular season.

I think he's got room to grow there. And he was dominating playing time by the end of the year. I think he played 96% of the snaps in one of the playoff games. It was outrageous. But you talked about the track record for the Rams and all the running back touchdowns that they had. That's under McVay.

McVay is still there. I don't want to give as much credence to what you said about the lion stat about how many rushing touchdowns their running backs don't have because it's a new staff coming in. And I don't know Dan Campbell, but he strikes me as the kind of coach that would prefer to just lean on the run and start building the offense through the run game,

kind of that older approach that some, not the same type of approach that other teams have, certainly not teams like Kansas City that have the dynamic quarterback. And maybe that's because the Lions don't have a dynamic quarterback, but they do have a good solution at running back with DeAndre Swift. I'm worried about the touches being there for Swift. The catches might be great. I'm worried about the carries to go along with it. I know he

can handle short yardage duty. He proved that last year. How many of those opportunities is he going to get in 2021? And God help us if the Lions, for whatever reason, keep Adrian Peterson, they're going to keep carry on Johnson because he's a cheap talent. But if they either replace Peterson with somebody who's a physical back or they keep Peterson, that could hurt DeAndre Swift from having even more touchdowns. So I do think he's got a great PPR ceiling. I'm not going to fault Jahith for ranking him ahead of Cam Akers,

but I think Akers will have the edge in touchdowns touches and total yards and i think he can make up for that with that production versus what swift gives you on the ground and through the air and through receptions yeah go ahead heath do you want to finish no i just again if this comes from like the projection process what did they do last year you can project that cam acres is going to score more touchdowns this following year, but it's also true that last year in short yardage, the Rams were just as likely, if not more likely, to use a back other than Cam Akers in short yardage than the Lions were with DeAndre Swift.

Yes, Adrian Peterson was a problem. Malcolm Brown and Daryl Henderson were stealing touchdowns from Cam Akers. And Daryl Henderson is still going to be there as well. How do you look at that, though, in the last six games when I don't know what the splits were in terms of near the goal line, but Henderson and Brown in the last six games had 30 touches and Akers had 143. So I'm just wondering if what you said is front loaded. You know? Well, no, the touch split definitely changed. So I'm just wondering if what you said is front-loaded. You know? Well, no, the touch split definitely changed,

but Henderson was also hurt for a majority of that time, wasn't he? I don't know about a majority of the time, but it's clear that they gave the keys to the car to Cam Akers down the street. Right, in December. Yeah. Okay, so let's go to our last three then. So that would be 5, 6, 7. And let me just get the order here. For Dave, it was 5, Gibson, 6, Dobbins.

Nope, this is Heath. For Heath, it was 5, Gibson, 6, Dobbins, 7, Edward Ziller. For Dave, it was Edward Ziller, Gibson, Dobbins. So that's the... Not quite the reverse. All right, whatever. Dave, you had Clyde, Edward Ziller, Gibson, Dobbins. So that's the... Not quite the reverse. All right, whatever. Dave, you had Clyde Edward Ziller fifth and Heath Yaddon seventh.

So Dave, why don't you start as the high guy here on Edward Ziller? I just... I want to look back on Edward Ziller before he got hurt, before Le'Veon and Daryl Williams started taking work away from him. He had at least 11 PPR points

in each of his first seven games and nine of his first 10 games. And then week 11 comes, he gets hurt. It looked really bad. And it was just tough luck from there. I think the Chiefs end up going right back to Edward Zilaire as their first back on the field. Hopefully he makes improvements as a pass catcher

so that he can start taking that third down roll. But I almost feel like there's, there's a lot of room for him to grow. I think that's pretty obvious to say he he's, he's still a good talent. We saw flashes of it this year. I know that not working short yardage goal line absolutely sucked, especially in week one.

You remember that first game against Houston? He just couldn't get in, and the offensive line was bad. Obviously, the line in the Super Bowl was a huge problem for Kansas City. They're going to address that. And I'm hoping that the Chiefs see a better version of Edwards-Elair in training camp. He has a regular offseason, and he combines the flashes that he had as a rookie with the strengths that he had at LSU

to become a do-it-all three-down running back, and I'm willing to take the chance on him late round two, early round three if he's there. I think he's absolutely worth taking as a number two fantasy running back. And Heath, why are you going to take Gibson and Dobbins ahead of Clyde Edwards-Elair? I just feel like we kind of, it may end up proving true in year two, but I feel like we kind of got duped a little bit by the Chiefs feature running back thing.

And Clyde Edwards-Elair, the first six or seven weeks of the season did get 60% of the snaps in every single game. After week seven, he had one game where he had more than 60%. He saw more than 60% of the snaps in every single game. After week seven, he had one game where he had more than 60%. He saw more than 60% of the snaps. That was with the Le'Veon Beltreau. Got to point that out. So what do you make of that? Well, I make of it that

they used him in that feature role for six weeks, and then they went and added someone else to not use him that way any longer. They also started throwing the ball so much more. They just stopped running. They changed their offense. When you have Patrick Mahomes, it's probably the way to do things. I think there's a concern

with his catch total. There's a concern with his touchdown total. I think Dave would agree with this. Before he was drafted in the first round by the Chiefs, we thought he was at best the first round by the Chiefs, we thought he was, at best, the fourth most talented back in this class,

probably fifth. He was absolutely fifth. So that's why I initially was a little down on him because I was, I think, a little bit in the CBS bubble. But I started looking at other sites. They did not feel the same way about Clyde. They were higher than CBS was, I would say, on Clyde Edwards-Ziller. Well, it kind of looks like CBS was right. It might be. But we were also wrong because we bought into Andy Reid

sprinkling pixie dust on Clyde Edwards-Ziller's head and him turning into Kareem Hunt times Priest Holmes. And a little Brian Westbrook, by the way. Sure, throw a little Brian Westbrook in there, too. Well, I don't think I cut off Heath, I'm sorry. Did you finish your point? I keep cutting you off. But what do you think about Damian Williams and his role? How much of a factor is that?

I have him factored into a similar role as Le'Veon Bell and Daryl Williams last year. I'm going to say something bold here. You guys can jump at me, please do. factored into a similar role as Le'Veon Bell and Daryl Williams last year. Okay. I'm going to say something bold here. You guys can jump at me. Please do. Other than Jonathan Taylor, the sophomore running back with the best chance to finish number one in this group is Clyde Edwards-Elair of these seven.

He has the second most upside. Second highest. I get that. I would, I would make the argument that if Anthony Lynn is being truthful and Deandre Swift sees more than 20 touches per game, he has a much better chance than Clyde Edwards there. And I would make the argument that like JK.K. Dobbins is just the Ravens

deciding they're not going to split running back carries away from being a challenger for number one. But J.K. Dobbins could have 12 catches. And Edward Zeller had more than 50 in college in his last year. So we thought he was going to be really good at that. Yeah. I mean, he had moments where he was. He just didn't get enough opportunity.

It's the Chiefs thing. It's, you know, like the Chiefs offense is going to be so much better than the Lions. And the Chiefs, like since Patrick Mahomes got there, the Chiefs just don't really throw to running backs as much as you would expect an Anthony Lynn offense to do at all. They've been below average in that regard with Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. So for 2021, rank them in terms of upside just the top three. The three players with the most upside in this group. I'd say Taylor, Swift, Robinson.

Well, if it's pure upside, it's Taylor one, Dobbins two, and... PPR upside? Yeah. Yeah, okay. If it's PPR upside, then it's got to be Taylor, Robinson, Swift, because I think those are the guys that have 50 catch potential.

And if we're just talking just like amazing numbers, no matter how they get them, I just think that Dobbins has all the talent in the world and he's just stuck in a situation that's you know bad for fantasy good for him good for the Ravens and we haven't talked about Gibson

and Dobbins much so have at it Dave has Dobbins 7th and Gibson 6th Heath has Edwards-Elair 7th Dobbins 6 and Gibson sixth. Heath has Edwards, either seventh Dobbins, sixth Gibson fifth, uh, but they are in your bottom three. So Dave Dobbins versus Gibson, you go Gibson. Whereas Heath, uh, no, you both have Gibson higher, right? Yeah. One spot. Yeah. Uh, okay. But yeah,

talk about these guys and, um, what do you, what you expect? I'll give Dave, you can take Dobbins. He's take Gibson. So the talent with Dobbins, he can take Gibson. So the talent with Dobbins is A+, which I've already kind of referenced that just a few minutes ago, but it's the workload concerns. It's sharing the ball with Gus Edwards. It's sharing the ball with Lamar Jackson. And if he's going to share the ball that much with them,

then I don't see a lot of games where he's going to get 20-plus PPR points. He might get you 13, 14, 15, 16 in that range each week. And that's great. You'd love to have it. And he did that toward the end of the year. And he did it because he was scoring touchdowns. And a lot of them were short yardage scores. And that's awesome.

But it's going to be rare where he's playing 70% of the snaps and he's getting 20 touches per game. And he's the one taking goal line work away from both Edwards and Lamar Jackson. The Ravens can run the ball better than almost anybody in the league. Dobbins is a tremendous running back. He's a, he's a specimen, but he is just sharing too much.

And that puts a cap on what his potential really is realistically is in fantasy gibson heath there's a little bit of that with gibson because of the jd mckissick problem he did not have the year catching the ball that we were hoping he was going to have catching the ball but he basically had 38 catches in what 13 complete games 13 and a half games. So there's room for growth there. He was much better and more involved running the ball than I expected he would be. There is some pretty serious upside because in five of his last seven complete games,

he had 17 touches or more, including a couple of 20 carry games. If they are willing to unleash him like that and he still catches three to four passes per game then we're underestimating antonio gibson a little bit as well a hundred percent and to me that the biggest thing with him is the split because that line's going to get better that defense is already good he is in prime position to take over as potentially a 20-touch-a-week guy. But he's got to prove it, and he's got to kind of turn J.D. McKissick into J.D. Mush.

Kiss him goodbye. Okay. I got a couple things to promote here real quick. I was supposed to do this earlier in the show, but what a nice conversation we've had about these running backs. So baseball is right around the corner. Make sure you're listening to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast. You can also watch them live on weeknights around 10 p.m. Eastern on the Fantasy Baseball Today YouTube channel. So there's that. You can watch it on Twitch too, but on the YouTube channel,

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with another top 12 finish. He just wasn't nearly as good. He just got a ton of work. But I think Jordan Howard probably tricked us into thinking he was some great running back, and it just wasn't the case. Is there a better example, though, of a great rookie season

and then really disappointing after that? I mean, who's got, who's got the downside, the most downside in this group. You mean the, the seven running backs that we talked about and there are more than seven and we'll get to them in a moment, but go on.

Sure. I mean, I think you could say that about James Robinson as having that kind of downside. Yeah. I mean, I don't know that Heath would, I mean,

long-term, I think he's the risky riskiest from a dynasty perspective because no investment from the team and new coaching staff in year two. So I would agree that like in dynasty, he would be the one I'm most concerned about. I, I don't think like, and I don't know anything about Damian Williams' plans, but I don't think it's really that hard to imagine a split with Damian Williams and Clyde Edwards-Alaire where he just busts next year big time. Yeah, and let's look at that downside. If Edwards-Alaire doesn't improve like I'm hoping,

and he's not given the opportunity to work in passing down situations, and Damian Williams is back, and it would be kind of crappy of the Chiefs to not keep him after he set out the year because his mom had cancer. He was worried about her, and he was taking care of her. If they cut him after he left the team for that, then that's bad karma. That's gross. Yeah, that could end up being something that really does hurt Edwards. I think he absolutely should be on the fizzles-out list.

If his first five, six games don't show any improvement, you already know what Kansas City is going to do because they did it last year. Oh, gosh. I just hope that there's not some sort of voodoo hex on Lions running backs because I remember getting... It was broken. DeAndre Swift broke the hex last year.

How do you figure he had like 600 rushing yards? It didn't even have that much. He was like 17th on a per game basis. Big deal. What does that mean in a bad year for running backs? He was 17th on a per game basis. Who cares? This guy,

he had 521 rushing yards. Uh, I don't know. It wasn't, it wasn't a special year. We've been excited about Amir Abdullah. We've been excited about Karyon Johnson. They both stunk in their second years.

They weren't involved enough. That's completely irrelevant. It probably is. Like DeAndre Swift was better than Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, better than J.K. Dobbins. There's no... He was better than J.K. Dobbins. Like, there's no... He was better than J.K. Dobbins? In terms of fantasy points?

Or in terms of he played better? Because J.K. Dobbins was the most efficient running back in football. Yeah, YPC for life. I won't disagree with you there. He was. He had the best rushing average. What do you suppose DeAndre Swift or Jonathan Taylor or Cam Akers,

YPC, would have been in that same situation last year? I don't think it would have been six. So you think he's definitively more talented than them? No. Because of a 6.0 yards per carry? No, but do you think that DeAndre Swift is definitively more talented than J.K. Dobbins? I'm not saying that.

I think he's going to get definitively a lot more catches. I'm not saying what you're accusing me of. I'm just saying, yeah, Detroit's got a horrible track record here. And it wasn't just the Patricia coaching staff. It's been since 2013. They haven't had a good finish. He was awesome last year. He was awesome last year. He's going to be

better this year. I am also treating it as if it is irrelevant. I just want everybody to know that. You just want to keep bringing it. Maybe you can find a Ringer article about it. Okay, I was right about that yesterday. I was 100% right. The only reason why people might think I'm wrong is because Jamie challenged me, but I was right. Well, I'm not saying you weren't right.

I was wrong to go on about the article as often as you did on the podcast. It was a joke, Heath. I think you got some laughs out of it. All right, Zach Moss, A.J. Dillon, Keyshawn Vaughn. We'll talk about them when we got some laughs out of it. All right. Zach Moss, AJ Dillon, Keyshawn Vaughn. We'll talk about them when we come back on fantasy football today.

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is as good as the Packers line has basically been for the last several seasons. He's my next favorite guy. He's number eight for me. And I think there's a chance that if things break the right way, where Aaron Jones goes to the jets or the Falcons and Jamal Williams goes to some other squad. I don't know, Seattle. And A.J. Dillon is the name at the top of the list. Okay, well, there's your lead running back for the Packers. And it's a guy who's built like Derrick Henry

and has a coach who used to call plays for Derrick Henry. That could lead to a lot of big, big numbers. So he's got a ton of upside, and you're going to be able to get him much later on than the first seven rookie running backs on draft day. For now. Heath, what about Zach Moss? Eh.

Heath, don't be so optimistic. I don't like the situation. I don't necessarily believe he's better than Devin Singletary. I don't think either of them are going to be a feature back. I don't want to draft him. Buffalo's best running back in 2021 is not currently on the roster. Well, sure he is. No.

He just takes the snaps from the center. Nope. Not going to be him either. This is a team that I expect. And they said as much. The GM said as much that they want to really improve on their run game. I could

see them drafting a running back in round one if they fall in love with Harris or ETN. And if they're not in love with either of those guys and they don't feel comfortable waiting for them, maybe they're the team that goes after Aaron Jones. But I think they try and fix their run game in a major way this offseason.

They seem more like an Adrian Peterson team to me. Oh, please no. Man, Aaron Jones is the best. I think they've been trying to Adrian Peterson it for a couple of years now, and they just need to drop the hammer here on the running back spot. All right, Keyshawn Vaughn could have some playing time.

You know, you never underestimate Bruce Arian's desire to mess with Ronald Jones if Fournette's out. So Vaughn's there. Josh Kelly started out good and then kind of faded. Michael Pirine, Anthony McFarlane, Darrington Evans would obviously need an injury. You know Benjamin. I know people were high on from a Dynasty standpoint, kind of high on him.

Saw a little bit from DJ Dallas. Did I say any names that you think could work their way into fantasy relevance? Vaughn and Kelly maybe at the top of the list? Kelly for me. You look at the Chargers depth chart right now and it's Eckler one and number two. And we'll see who the coaches like there.

Do they like Kalen Balazs and want to keep him in a physical role, or do they like Kelly and want to give him a chance to be that 1B running back? It is a different coaching staff, but I still don't think that they're going to look at Austin Eckler and say, 20 touches per game, make him our lead guy or make him our workhorse guy. There's been a hesitancy to use Austin Eckler in short yardage situations for several years now. I would imagine that's going to continue. So whoever that second back is should be more physical than Eckler and could end up stealing maybe six touchdowns. We can be optimistic.

Why the hell not? Six touchdowns from Austin Eckler over the course of the season. For now, Kelly, I think, is that guy. And so if I'm doing best ball drafts in February and March, at least until free agency kicks into high gear, he's the one possibility to be somewhat of a lead back on the Jets. I think the Jets and Jacksonville and teams like them, now some of them will make poor choices, but when you're taking over a roster as utterly devoid of hope as those teams are, wasting good resources on a running back, it's like a 60-win baseball team going out and signing a $20 million closer.

It's not the right way to go about it. So hopefully for Jets fans, they go add all of the things that are not running backs, and Michael P. Ryan could have 240 touches next year. Who's the new head coach of the Jets? Robert Sala. Okay, and who's the new offensive coach of the Jets? Robert Sala. Okay.

And who's the new offensive coordinator of the Jets? We get burned by this a lot, trying to figure out, oh, well, he came from this team, so they're going to have these tendencies. I think coaches adapt to their personnel. That's what I think. I think a lot of them do, but I think there could be a very strong philosophy that's carried over from San Francisco to the jets, which is don't pay your running backs.

Don't go hog wild on your salary cap with them and then use them in groups of two, three, four, whatever it takes. So P Ryan, I'm saying P Ryan can have a role in that offense. I'm saying every running back that ends up on the jets is going to have a role in the offense, but I w I would be kind of surprised if they, um, give one guy in that offense,

240 touches, but P Ryan's potential role is bigger than Kelly's potential role. I don't know about that. Really? I mean, how could that not be? I don't know. There,

if there's no way he's going to usurp Eckler. No, I don't think he usurped. Whereas P Ryan, I don't, I don't know if P Ryan can be the, there. There's no way he's going to usurp Eckler. No, I don't think he usurps Eckler. Whereas P. Ryan... I don't know if P. Ryan can be the 1A in that Jets run game. I don't think he's that good. I think Ty Johnson looks better. Kelly's awful. Kelly was

pretty bad last year. We'll see what happens this year. Guys change. Guys can get better. They're both late. Look, I'm not telling you that if I'm picking one over the other, I'm picking Kelly over Piran, but they're both in that late round running back range. And there's another running back that you didn't even name Adam who's in that late round running back range because he showed us something this year who was a rookie. Savan Ahmed ended up doing just fine for the Dolphins when Miles

Gaskin was out. And I still think Gaskin is going to be the main guy for Miami unless they address that position somehow, some way. But Ahmed could end up having a small role while Gaskin's playing, and then a bigger role if Gaskin ends up missing time. That is really interesting because whether it was Ahmed or Gaskin, whoever was the starting running back for the Dolphins

was great, was really, really good. And I'm interested to see how that plays out. But they've got some draft picks, some capital. Maybe they could... I thought they'd end up with Dobbins last year. Didn't happen. Maybe they will pick someone early in this draft. Heath and I are doing a draft right now, Dave.

And through two rounds, Heath doesn't have a running back. And through three rounds, I don't have a running back, and through three rounds, I don't have a running back. Pretty crazy. Is this a baseball league? No, this is Omni Fantasy. So I have...

Ooh, okay. I have Novak Djokovic, the New York Yankees, and the Colorado Avalanche. Heath, what do you have? You have the Las Vegas Aces and England. Yeah, the whole country. I'm coming for you.

I think you should, since you're talking about the draft, reference the fact that I am the returning champion. Oh, you won last year when all the sports got canceled. I am the current reigning champion, actually co-champion with Dan. It's fun.

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There's WNBA. There's different soccer leagues, football leagues, some people say. It's cool. There's golf. I'm sure you can customize it however you'd like. All right. The news and notes are quick. According to Jason Budd of The Athletic,

Hayden Hurst could see more targets in Arthur Smith's offense. And Pittsburgh general manager Kevin Colbert was, I don't know, a little lukewarm on Ben Roethlisberger. He said, this is a hot take, Ben Roethlisberger is on the team. That's what he said. Ben Roethlisberger did he said, this is a hot take, Ben Roethlisberger is on the team. That's what he said. Ben Roethlisberger did a lot of really good things last year. We anticipate that he could still do some good things going forward. Wow.

Not a ringing endorsement there. They've got to cut his cap number way down. He's going to have to take a big pay cut. But I don't know. I guess, Dave, for me, this is the first time I feel like Roethlisberger really might not be back. I still think he will, but I would be pretty pissed if I were Roethlisberger and I heard that.

Why not just lie and be like, we love Ben, we'd love to have him back? What's the point of saying this? What's Ben Roethlisberger going to do if the Steelers don't want him back? He's going to retire. Maybe he should. I don't think that... My guess

is if Ben Roethlisberger retires, that they will have a worse quarterback in 2021 than Roethlisberger. They're in a major pickle because if you don't want to pay Roethlisberger and he says, I'm just going to retire, what do they do? They're going to go to Mason Rudolph? I know that there was a report

saying that Steelers are fine going into next year with Mason Rudolph as their quarterback. I'm fine going into next year with Mason Rudolph as their quarterback. I'm not going to be fine with Mason Rudolph as their quarterback. That's going to make me nervous to trust Deontay Johnson and Chase Claypool.

And if he's still there, Juju Smith-Schuster. The Steelers have to figure out something here. They need to find your tank. Yeah, maybe. They were, what were they, 11-0?

I had a dream they traded three first-round picks and Chase Claypool for Deshaun Watson. Juju Smith-Schuster was recruiting Deshaun Watson, I believe, right? You see that? I don't think you're going to be on Pittsburgh. I don't really think...

I don't know what team he was recruiting him to. But, yeah, I don't know. Maybe he was recruiting him to tell his team to uh to call him oh for houston hey get me on houston something like that okay uh i was i don't know i don't really think we have to talk i would talk dynasty sure we can finish with some dynasty talk we did have an email that i wanted to read uh from fitz in a southeast suburb of Detroit. Flatrock. It says, Dear Jonathan, Nick, and Josh. Those are either

Jonas brothers or the running backs we're about to talk about. You all have Jonathan Taylor ahead of Nick Chubb and Josh Jacobs. Why? Upside. I mean, it's the biggest thing. I think he's got 2,000 total yard potential, 15 touchdown potential.

In the case of Chubb, he's sharing, but he's not sharing with a guy like Kareem Hunt. And in the case of Josh Jacobs, he's more of a three-down player than Jacobs ever has been. And I could be wrong about this. I'm looking it up right now. Last year in PPR, Jonathan Taylor scored 254 PPR fantasy points. I'm not sure that Josh Jacobs has ever done that.

And I'm not 100. Nick Chubb scored 261 in 2019. I know he didn't do it for a full season last year, but his full season numbers with that amazing six-game stretch are just as good as anything Nick Chubb has produced and better than what Josh Jacobs has done. Chubb was a half of PPR point better per game

than Jonathan Taylor in 2020. And both of them were like two points better than Jacobs in PPR. The thing is, Jacobs, and I don't know his YPC in his rookie year, but what if you took Jacobs' touches in his second year and his efficiency in his rookie year. But what if you took Jacobs' touches in his second year and his efficiency

in his first year? You would have one of my favorite A's or stats of all time. No, I'm just saying I think he's a much better running back than what we saw last year.

That's my point. And he got so much work and he got almost every carry inside the five-yard line. I think I said he led the NFL in percentage inside the five, or he was second in terms of his team's carries. So I'm just saying, like, Jacobs finished as a top-ten running back, but he could still have a huge bounce-back year because he's a much better running back than what we saw last year, in my opinion. Sure, but if you're talking about running back talent, I mean, Chubb is among the best.

And I think Taylor has a chance to be in that same vein. Chubb's the man. I would also say that generally, it's not that uncommon for efficiency to regress when you get more work. He only got 30 more carries, but he went from 4.8 yards to 3.9 yards per carry. I think I've probably got him projected at 4.4 next year. He's not a 3.9 guy.

Their offensive line was in shambles all year. Yeah, there's no such thing as a 3.9 guy. There's 3.9 situations. Jordan Howard to me feels like a 3.9 guy. Why do I pick on him? I don't know. He's a little like a 4.0. He's great GPA.

Whose first two years in the league were better, Jordan Howard or Josh Jacobs? Probably Howard. You tell me. Josh Jacobs had, Josh Jacobs had like 2,300 yards and 19 touchdowns rushing. And Jordan Howard, in his first two years, he had 2,400 rush yards and 15 rushing touchdowns

in his first two seasons. You can tack on another 425 receiving yards and a touchdown. So grand total, ladies and gentlemen, 2,800 total yards and a touchdown. So grand total, ladies and gentlemen, 2,800 total yards and 16 touchdowns. Oh, Jacobs, more touchdowns, 2,600 yards. Very similar. So Howard was better.

Great. So now we're saying that Josh Jacobs is a little bit better or on par with Jordan Howard. Actually, I can't think of a better endorsement. There's no question because as rookies, Howard was at 5.2 yards per carry. Jacob was at 4.8. Their second year, Howard fell to 4.1.

Jacob was at 3.9. It's definitive that Jordan Howard, YPC for life. I would agree with that, except I don't. Okay, dynasty questions. How many of the sophomore running backs are you taking ahead of Saquon Barkley in a startup dynasty league? Who has more dynasty ahead of Saquon Barkley in a dynasty,

like a startup dynasty league who has more dynasty value than Saquon Barkley? That's a good question. For me, it's still zero. I still have Barkley at number two. I'm taking Taylor over Barkley all the way. And I'm not sure if I'm comfortable taking Dobbins over Barkley. I'll answer one.

Interesting. How about over Ezekiel Elliott? One, two. Definitely two. Just three. Three for me. Is Swift your third or is Akers your third? It's probably Robinson. It's Robinson, yeah. It's Taylor, Swift,

Robinson. How about Josh Jacobs?'s Taylor, Swift, Robinson. How about Josh Jacobs? Just Taylor, Taylor, Swift? Taylor and Swift for me. I think I'd say Taylor and Swift for sure. And you could put Robinson and Akers close to Jacobs. Maybe ahead of them. That's a tough call.

I'm impressed with my discipline that we've said Taylor Swift so many times today, and I haven't made any references, really. To what? To Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift. We are never, ever, ever going to stop making that Ringer article joke. I'm so glad I found that article.

I feel so vindicated. Which sophomore running back has the most long-term upside? Jonathan Taylor, right? Taylor. Yeah, Taylor. Which sophomore running back has the most long-term downside? It's probably Robinson. Robinson or Edward Ziller.

I'm going to say it's Swift because he plays for the Lions. Oh, okay. Just kidding. Hey, maybe you're right. Just kidding. No, I'm kidding no I'm kidding maybe I'm kidding

alright that's it we're done thanks very much for listening everybody we've got a weekend now coming up

and then we're coming back on Monday with the sophomore wide receiver yes sophomore wide receivers can't wait to talk about it

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