Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Aaron Rodgers, Najee Harris, Marvin Harrison Jr. and Many More (11/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

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This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he Let's get into some starts and sits for week 10 This is fantasy football today presented by Bet MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. Today on the show, we'll tell you why Detroit's defense

has been better than expected. Why Deandre Hopkins is a new player with the Kansas City Chiefs. A rare look at a Thomas Schaeffer character flaw that I just discovered. Very excited for this. And an interesting stat on James Connor and much more. Welcome to Heath and Jamie.

What's going on guys? Black shirts today, little dark. Jay Heath, what's up? You have a question? I'm really interested in the Thomas Schaeffer character flaw because I've never seen any. Yeah me either, but I'll tell you later out of the show. Jamie, let's keep it positive for now.

Let's get a player we love for week 10. Let's go with positive party. Brock party started the week. He owes me one. He was started the week earlier this season to not deliver. But this is a great opportunity for him. You know, Christian McCaffrey back. Joanne Jennings, hopefully back or I guess, hopefully Christian McCaffrey is back.

But really, it's the free space. What Tampa Bay has allowed to opposing quarterbacks, I mean they made Patrick Mahomes actually look good. So you've seen now four quarterbacks in the last five games, two of them have been Kirk Cousins, but Lamar Jackson, Cousins, Mahomes have basically been around 40 fantasy points in each of their games against Purdy. And surprisingly enough, he has yet to have back to back games with 20 plus fantasy points. So he's coming off a game with 28 fantasy points.

He's hit that number in two of his last three. So he's starting to get the numbers on top of playing well. But I think McCaffrey opens up everything for the offense as we have seen. Aside from Ayuk, they'll be hopefully healthy and just love the setup for him going into that matchup at Tampa Bay. I saw a question in the chat before we started Brock Purdy or

Sam Darnold and Darnold has a great matchup against Jacksonville. Who do you like there? Purdy or Darnold? They're actually back to back for me with Purdy one spot. All right, Heath, who do you love this week? This one's gonna sound strange because it's not supposed to be a great matchup. But I love Josh Downs against Buffalo. You know, he had a, we talked about this yesterday on CBS Sports Network. He had a down week last week and it was 12 PPR fantasy points. I do not think Joe Flacco will be as bad as he was last week.

And we've seen that like against this Buffalo defensive, you're going to have a little bit of success in the passing game. It's probably going to be short area targets, not stuff down the field. That's where Josh Downs functions. I think this could be a 40 pass attempt game from Joe Flacco. You're probably going to see 25% of those attempts go to downs. So 10 targets, eight catches should be 15 fantasy points. When you said he had a down week, was that a pun? No, but it was good. Yeah. So I was gonna hit that for you there. Okay. It wasn't a downs week. It was a down week. Josh Downs or Marvin Harrison Jr.

Downs. Downs. And over DeAndre Hopkins against Denver? Yep. Yeah. Okay. All right. Players to avoid. Jamie, who are we sitting? There's a few quarterbacks that are playing well that I don't like. Mahomes would be one. Rogers would be one. And Baker Mayfield would be one. Rogers. Interesting. All right. Mahomes, sorry to interrupt.

I'll go with Rogers. Arizona's defense, you got to run against them to be successful. And there's only been one quarterback that has not had success running the ball. Now, you could say Josh Allen without his rushing numbers would have been great week one. But Jordan Love is the only one that has had success against his defense without rushing for production. He had a four touchdown game against them. Rogers is playing well, but think about how that game unfolded for them.

First half he was miserable, came back in the second half, you got three touchdowns, but only 211 yards passing. Now clearly you got the game that you were hoping for because both Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams played well, and that could clearly happen again. But I think you got to give Arizona's defensive credit like they shut down Purdy they're coming off a game where they shut down Caleb Williams I don't remember their exact game log all the way across the board but they've they've handled some good quarterbacks or some quarterbacks that have been sort of in this range from a production standpoint

so if you've been starting Rodgers like I have him in one league I'm probably not making a move because I like the rest of season schedule but like like Daniel Jones to me is better, Purdy is better. I would even consider Trevor Lawrence if he's healthy over in Rogers week. Yeah, you know, I have a segment or a section in my notes called Arizona's Weird Defense, and they have held Jared Goff to 17 points, Brock Purdy to 14 points. Tua to 16 points. Jaden Daniels to 25 points with 47 yards and a touchdown rushing. They've actually been pretty solid against some running backs. James Cook 13.3 PPR fantasy points. Jordan Mason 10.8. Josh Jacobs 12 points. JK Dobbins 9.6. DeAndre Swift 14.2 points with six catches and 31 receiving yards. So it's weird.

It's like, they don't really have a good defense, but they're doing pretty well. So I'm glad you brought that up. Um, yeah, it's not, it's not as easy of a matchup as it looks, I guess, for the New York jets. I, yeah, I didn't boost him for the matchup. I just also don't think it's a matchup that you downgrade him for. So what do you have pretty over him, but I have Roger still as a top 10 quarterback. I'm starting him.

Where do you have him, Jamie? 17 or 18. Rogers, okay. Okay, and Dave also has him 17th, Heath has him 10th. So who are you sitting Heath? You know, it's hard to sit wide receivers this week because the position is pretty awful. But you mentioned him when you asked about Josh Downs and in full PPR, I'm not very excited

about starting Marvin Harrison. I hope that I have a couple of wide receivers, especially in a two wide receiver league, that I could start over him. The targets have not been consistent. The matchup is not good against the Jets and he won't be shadowed the entire game, but it's still not a, it's still a very good pass defense. So if I could get away from Marvin Harrison, I would like to. Harrison's split almost completely even between lining up on the left side and lining up on the right side. So that means he'll probably see Soss Gardner about half his snaps. If that's even a thing, I know Gardner's

not really having the greatest season, but the Jets, I do believe they're first against receivers. They're up there. They're one of the best against receivers. Also, he had like an 18 yard 8 out last week. It's just all they do is throw downfield to him. It's really annoying. You know what I thought about though in this game, because I remember a couple weeks ago where I was high on Marvin Harrison Jr. and I thought that Dolphins were going to put up points against the Cardinals and they were finally going to have to throw. So that did come to fruition. Does it happen again? Did the Jets put up enough points

where Kyler Murray throws 32 or more passes? And in that case, we might get eight or more targets for Harrison and maybe good games for both of them. I don't know, what do you guys think? Like, did the Jets put up enough points to get into this kind of game with them? I don't feel like that's the case. I don't think it's gonna be a shootout. I don't like, it seems, I don't remember where the over

under is, I was just looking at that, but it seems like it was 46, which is not low, not super high either. Okay. 24, 21 game. Question in the chat, Harrison or Addison? Harrison. Harrison. Harrison. All right.

Well, I've used a lot of my stats for the Jets Cardinals game. So that's good. That'll save us some time later. Is it one of my favorite games on the slate actually? Yeah, it should be fun. So I should have asked Thomas this before. Sorry, I'm gonna put you on the spot, Thomas.

Are we 9 AM live stream on Sunday? Yeah, we were supposed to talk about that. I'm good with it. You know, people, he's unavailable. So it's only you and Dave and Dan's not going to want to come on for. Cause I can probably do it before. Oh, okay.

So let's do it. Let's do it. I think people want to watch a giants game with me, right? because it's a job we knew before. Oh, okay. So let's do it. Let's do it. I think people want to watch a Giants game with me, right? Yeah, watch the beginning with me and watch the end with me. So we'll do a live stream at 9 a.m. Eastern. And then again, at noon Eastern for one hour each. Cause we got the game in Germany, Giants Panthers,

and we'll answer your start sit questions. So we'll see you there at youtube.com slash fantasy football today at 9 a.m. Eastern and at noon Eastern for one hour. CBS Sports HQ at 10 Eastern. You can watch Jamie there, you know, giving some fantasy advice as well. News and notes, Jamie mentioned if Trevor Lawrence plays,

that is not a certainty. He was limited in practice, but Doug Peterson did not commit to him playing against Minnesota. He has an upper body injury. Dak Prescott, it seems according to a couple of sources, according to ESPN, Dak Prescott is probably going to need more than four weeks to return. And you have to wonder if he's going to return at all, depending on where they are in the standings.

Cleveland GM Andrew Berry was non-committal about Deshaun Watson playing again for the Browns. They obviously owe him a lot of money about Deshaun Watson playing again for the Browns. They obviously owe him a lot of money. Bryce Young is gonna start for the Panthers against the Giants in Germany. Will Levis was limited in practice. I got a good stat on Calvin Ridley with Will Levis and Mason Rudolph.

I'll tell you that later. Baker Mayfield mispracticed with a toe injury. Most of the Bucks mispracticed yesterday. Well, that's an exaggeration, but Sterling Shepherd, Jaylin McMillan, and Breaker Mayfield, they were out. Running back news, Brian Robinson Jr. was limited in practice. Christian McCaffrey, he may not come off IR until they have to put

declare they're inactive. So they still haven't committed to him playing. You guys are ranking him. But yeah, good. I think that's a really tough one because like we expect that he's going to play, but we don't, we've already been fooled once before. I don't know that there's any guarantee that the tendonitis isn't going to flare back up Sunday morning. So I'm probably, I already had him behind Dobbins. Um, if you're making that decision on Thursday, I think I'd probably start chase Brown over him.

Dobbins is not on the Ravens. Not. Okay. Eric Henry. Probably move behind chase Brown. Okay. Chase Brown. You're moving behind chase Brown. I think so. I was lower on him anyway. Okay. Like if you don't know, I think you have to play Brown. Yeah. All right. Jonathan Brooks is off IR, but he may not play this week. So we'll see. Then they have a bye the following week. Tajay Spears was limited again. That seems to be his thing. And then he doesn't play, but hopefully he plays this week.

And Gus Edwards is eligible to return now. They've activated his 21 day window. So Gus Edwards could come off IR anytime in the next three weeks. Wide receiver news. Nico Collins mispracticed. T Higgins doubtful. Drake London and AJ Brown were able to practice. That's great news.

Are you guys ranking London and Brown? All right. We did, yes. How about Lamb? Yes. Okay, so all those guys were limited. So it's good news except Nico Collins missing practice. Not great news, but we'll see.

Chris Olave seeing a concussion specialist. That one is also not great news. I don't know, we don't know what that means. I don't know how many games he's going to miss. But Jamie, what's your take on that with Olave with multiple concussions seeing a specialist? I have him in a 10-team league and I considered dropping him last night just because of a roster crunch situation. Like that seems there's no reason for him to play this week is what the report indicated. And who knows what happens moving forward with their team spiraling out of control,

firing their coach. After what his brother tweeted, that is it worth it to stay in New Orleans, essentially was the tweet. So given the circumstances, multiple concussions in a four week period and multiple concussions in his career, like this may not be, we may not see Chris Alave the rest of the season. Wouldn't surprise me. Darius Slayton mispractice. He's in the concussion protocol. Michael Pittman has a finger injury

in addition to his back injury. Sterling Shepard and McMillan mispractice. I told you that. Devante Smith mispractice. Probably okay, but we'll see. Gabe Davis was limited. Juju Smith-Schuster mispracticed. Deebo Samuel and Jawan Jennings were both limited. Amari Cooper was limited. And Keon Coleman could miss multiple weeks for the Bills. So that's a big one to keep an eye on there. Adam Thielen did not practice. They have their bye. So maybe Thielen, if he doesn't come back this week, comes back after the bye. They have the Giants, then a bye. Tight end news, Dallas Goddard practiced in full and Isaiah likely is out for tonight's game.

Offensive line, the Bengals left tackle Orlando Brown is questionable and the Colts are gonna get their left tackle back after Bernard Raymond missed their week nine game with a concussion. Three kicker notes. Will Reichard for the Vikings, he's on IR. Jake Moody should be back this week for the Niners. And Washington kicker Austin Seibert,

who's been very good, he missed practice. Legerius Need, Titans cornerback, he missed practice. Montez Swett returned, he missed last week's game, Chicago edge rusher Montez Swett, he returned to practice. So did defensive back Kyler Gordon. Marshawn Latimore, who the commander's game Chicago, Ed Russia, Montes sweat. He returned to practice. So did defensive back Kyler Gordon Marshawn Latimore who the commander's just acquired. He may not play this week. He has a hamstring injury The Vikings may be getting a little healthier with Blake Cashman coming back Chargers edge rusher Khalil Mack miss practice and Houston edge rusher will Anderson miss practice

Remember he got hurt against the Jets on Thursday They're playing Detroit on Sunday night, but they could be getting linebacker Aziz Al-Shair and safety Jimmy Ward back. And that's big. Their past defense has been dreadful. And a lot of that is coinciding with Jimmy Ward missing, but it's kind of been all year. All right, we'll take a quick break.

And when we come back, finally reveal that Schaeffer character flaw, get into one question for each game, and preview everything you need to know for the AFC slate. We'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs powered by Snapdragon, the fastest most intelligent Windows PCs ever. Listen to the features that you get with these computers. They are fantastic. They can perform 45 trillion operations per second. And the Copilot Plus PCs give you access to AI powered co-creator, a powerful AI feature

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slash copilot dash plus dash PCs. Battery life varies by device settings and usage. So I got a text from our producer, Thomas Schaefer, earlier this week. Should we do FFT open acknowledgement on tomorrow's podcast? Just shout out all the division leaders. And I said, yes, good idea. I think it's time, it's week 10. We haven't talked about it in like four, five, six weeks. You know, great.

We talked about it when I was three and oh, then I went on a five game losing streak. So I haven't really been bringing it up, but it's, yeah, it's a good time to shout out the division leaders. We talked about it. Yeah, exactly. We, I'm proud to say, four of our CBS commissioners

are in first place. One of them is Thomas Schaeffer. So there it is, the character flaw. Hey, why don't we just talk about the FFT Open Leaders? Yes, good job Schaeffer. You are seven and two, you are in first place. I don't need acknowledgement. I don't need flowers.

It's for the people, you know. For the people, including Thomas Schaeffer. And yes, Chris in our chat says Schaeffer has no flaws. And if you meant that Chris, you would have spelled his name right. There's no C in Schaeffer, and as Chris in our chat says, Schaeffer has no flaws. And if you meant that Chris, you would have spelled his name right. There's no C in Schaeffer. Who are the four? All right, it's Jamie.

Jamie is seven and two, Schaeffer is seven and two. John Breach, I think he's six and three, seven and two. Will Brinson, he's eight and one. Wow. In his FFT Open division. So those are our four CBS leaders and good job by Breach for having a good team name unlike the other three CBS guys.

He has the Breach Street boys. Matt Jacob, team name Bean Boozled, you're in first place. Justin Carpenter, Carps Crew, first place. Brandon Spangenberg, get rich or die Kyron. I like that, you're in first place. Matthew Parlari, who has a team name that I'm not gonna say. And Todd- Come on on.

No, Nundercover. And John Antonides and Daniel Clay, who has Kittles and Bits. After all the foul things you said this week, you won't say his name. I'm turning a new leaf, Jamie. Like I, I know I'm not, someone's asking if I'm in last place. I'm not a new leaf, Jamie. Like I, I know I'm not, someone's asking

if I'm in last place. I'm not in last place. I have the third most points in my league. So I have a chance, gotta get hot here, but you know, I'm feeling good about it. Really just passed our week in my league. What are you? What's that?

Go ahead, Jamie. Oh, when did the playoffs start? The playoffs start in week 14, where teams two, three and four will compete for the right to face the number one seed in week 15, and there are six teams on by in week 14. So you definitely want to get the number one seed. Heath, what'd you say? I'm just disappointed that Tim Gordon wasn't in first place

in my league because his team name is Heath Cummings is a fantasy god, and I would have liked if you had to read that team name. I wouldn't have done it. I would have. My team is awful. I drafted't have done it. I would have, I would have. My team is awful. I drafted Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, there you go. All right. One question for each game. And this is AFC home games, but there are a lot, there are more NFC home games.

So we're throwing Pittsburgh, Washington on the slate. We're throwing, um, one more, I think. Yeah. Oh yeah. Jets, Arizona, which is what we'll start with. Jets Arizona, Aaron Rodgers or Kyler Murray? Kyler. Rodgers. Okay, there we go. We kind of talked about this earlier.

Pittsburgh at Washington. Is this a good game for fantasy? Is this a medium game for fantasy? Is this a bad game? Pittsburgh at Washington. Say medium. I mean, it's good defenses, but I think it's still going to be a good game. I mean, we've got nausea, we've got Pickens, we've got Jaden Daniels, we got Terry McLaurin,

and hopefully we've got Brian Robinson Jr. Five guys, I think that we're starting. It's pretty good. Yeah. And Heath is much higher on Najee Harris than Dave and Jamie. So looking forward to that discussion. Buffalo at Indianapolis, Josh Downs, Khalil Shakir or Amari Cooper? Downs. Downs. And then how about the Bills guys? We have not ranked Cooper.

He was limited in practice. So we'll see if he's able to return. Keon Coleman, as you said before, did not practice. So Shakir has gotten seven plus targets in three straight games. And I believe it is eight receivers have had at least seven targets or more against the Colts this season. And six of them have been like 13 PPR points or more, something like that. So if he keeps up that target share, he should have an opportunity for another quality item.

The Colts have allowed 78 yards or a touchdown to 14 wide receivers in nine games. They're almost the new commanders now. They really stink. So I am hoping Cooper gets out there, but yeah, this could be a good game for the passing game for the Bills. Denver at Kansas City, DeAndre Hopkins or Courtland Sutton?

Sutton. Hopkins, they're both number threes though. Minnesota's at Jacksonville. Is this about as excited as you'll get for Sam Darnold? I mean, he's been good in all but two games, right? Is this about as excited as you'll get for Sam Darnold? I mean, he's been good in all but two games, right? Mm-hmm. One of them was not in America, so we throw that out. Yeah, of course.

It's a reason to be excited for him. You should like Sam Darnold. Leads the NFL in explosives per drop back. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why you're taking shots at Sam Darnold. No, I'm saying this is this is as good as it gets. He's QB eight on the season. I think we haven't ranked about QB eight.

Like, that's what he is. How many years from now, until we're talking about Daniel Jones, like we're talking about Sam Darnold. He just doesn't process the field on a different team with, you know, finally good head coach and playmakers. That's not the head coach's fault. He was a top eight quarterback last week. He might be a top eight quarterback this week. It might be happening right now. Giants are turning things around. No but with Darnold, in case you didn't know, he leads the NFL at explosive play per drop back but also the Jaguars, the only team that gives up more big

plays than the Jaguars is the Ravens and the Jaguars have given up 24 or more fantasy points to six of the last seven quarterbacks that they have faced. Detroit at Houston. Daniel Jones and coach Slawek in, let's see, what city? Cleveland. Seattle. Oh, wow. New Orleans. Oh, yeah, that could work. Minnesota at Jacksonville. I'm sorry, Detroit at Houston. Starters at Jared Goff. Sorry, Seahawks. I wouldn't do that, too.

Start. Sit. Kyler Murray or Jared Goff? Goff. Kyler. All right. Not a lot of consensus today. Kyler Murray or Jared Goff? Goff. Kyler. All right, not a lot of consensus today. Tennessee at the Chargers,

do you like a wide receiver in this game? Like, yes. Love, no. Must start, no. I think I have three of them all ranked between like wide receiver 20 and wide receiver 30. So in a three wide receiver league, I'm probably starting Ridley and McConkie and Quinton Johnston. But as of right now, I'm kind of ranking

as if Ligeria Snead is not going to play because he didn't practice and we're still ranking as if Mason Rudolph is going to start. So if we get Will Levis and Ligeria Snead both back, that would hurt pretty much everybody. Okay, so if you want my Calvin Ridley stat, he has a 21.1 yard A dot with Will Levis and a 12 yard A dot with Mason Rudolph. That's a huge stat. That's a very big deal to me. Tanny, well, you can't be good with a 21 yard A dot. It's ridiculous.

And by the way, I did watch the tape and he did get shadowed by Christian Gonzalez and he played pretty well against Christian Gonzalez. I got to say there were a lot, there were were a couple plays that were left on the field, like could have been a big, big game for Calvin Ridley against the Patriots. I think he's actually playing pretty well right now with Rudolph. Now it's time for the Workhorse to Watch segment, brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs powered by Snapdragon, the fastest, most intelligent Windows PCs ever. In this segment, we'll identify a player whose battery just doesn't seem to run out similar

to co-pilot plus PCs. Okay, let's talk about Tyrone Tracy, who obviously has a great matchup. He and Chuba Hubbard both. You could have put Chuba Hubbard here, but we're going to focus on Tyrone Tracy because as I look at the rankings right now on Thursday, Dave and Jamie have Tyrone Tracy ahead of Breece Hall. That's a little too bold for me, but he obviously has a great chance for success here. Since becoming the starting running back for the Giants, he has 16 or more carries in four of five games.

If you get that many carries against the Carolina Panthers, you are probably going to score. And here's the thing about the Panthers. They see the most running back carries per game. They give up the most running back rushing yards per game and the most running back touchdowns per game in the NFL. If Tyrone Tracy Jr. is going to have a good game, it is going to be this week against the Carolina Panthers. Then we could talk about trading him

if anybody wants to take him as he goes into his buy. But he's getting most of the snaps. I really don't think Singletary is that big of an issue for him. And I do expect the Giants to be able to score some points in this game. So you are going to want to start Tyrone Tracy this week. That was the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs. Whether you're multitasking like never before, working far from power outlets, or sketching your own ideas into existence, you can do it with the new Microsoft Copilot Plus PC powered by Snapdragon.

Battery life varies by device and with usage and settings. Let's get into the games a little bit deeper here. We'll start with the Jets and Arizona. The Jets, 10th in points per game, first in yards per play allowed though. And you know, I don't know how good Arizona's offense is, but good offenses that the Jets have faced, the Niner scored 32 points, the Vikings 23, the Bills 23.

And then I already told you about Arizona's weird defense. So I don't know if you guys want to talk a little bit more about Aaron Rodgers, but Jamie's got him 17th and Heath has him 10th. So Heath make the case for Rodgers. He's been basically 20 points per game since Devontae Adams got there and I just kind of think that's where he's going to live. This is an Arizona defense that's not as bad as we thought they were going to be in terms of allowing fantasy points but I still don't think that

they're a matchup that matters. You don't downgrade because of them. So you've got Garrett Wilson, you got Devontae Adams, you've got a fine matchup, you've got a fine over under. He's a starting quarterback. Do you feel the same way? And this is probably a question for the audience as well. If the third touchdown doesn't happen for Rogers in that game last week? Um, I don't know. Maybe. I might feel a little bit worse. Yeah, just I feel like when you see the third touch,

then you're like, oh, well, it's got Devontae Adams, Garrett Wilson. Now he's capable of, of more. Right. But that, that was, you know, Houston's trying to stop the clock. They caught them in a blitz. It was a great play. And listen, points are points. And it just, you know, when you see those end of game plays like that, especially when you sort of break that game down in segments, the first half was miserable for them. Then Adams leaves with a concussion. So fact of that and also, you know, that he

wasn't there for a portion of it. And then you get the play at the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers has a good game, but again, the track record for what the Cardinals have done, only one quarterback with just his passing alone has been good against his defense. Yeah. Yeah. I still think, and that's true, I still think if you look at the Cardinals in relation to who Aaron Rodgers has played this year, this is one of his better matchups. Yes, that is also true. He's had a very tough schedule. And it's all I think what gets me

excited for Rogers is that they have the fourth most pass attempts per game in football. They are a throwing team. So but all right, let's see what happens. It's a good good debate. Aaron Roger 68% rostered. Any hesitation with Breeze Hall this week? Nope. I think the only guy that is like off the radar from a draft early season standpoint that I've started over is Tyrone Tracy. Wow. I'd still start whole. All right.

Okay, let's go to the Jets wide receivers. Garrett Wilson's top 12. Devante Adams is about 16th. Anything to say, Jamie? No, I think you're starting these guys, you know, and this is, this will be the telling thing for how these receivers perform in regards to Rogers because you could see, take that game last week, you know, Wilson has a two touchdown game, Adams doesn't score, but he still gets you, you know, positive numbers with his catches in his yards and vice versa. You

know, could get a one touchdown game for Wilson and, and, and, or a one touchdown game for Adams. You know, so this is one of those where the puzzle doesn't always fit when you look at rankings for me, because this isn't a, they're both scoring touchdowns. They're both going crazy, but PPR, they could still get you top 15 numbers for how they should perform. Okay. And one surprise me like Rogers is like 222 and two. Right. I mean, they catch it.

Look, he doesn't run at all. So he could still give you two good wide receivers and not have a huge fantasy game. Yep. Tyler Conklin, we're going to sit. All right. So Kyler Murray, you guys are closer on Kyler Murray. Heath, I think is Kyler Murray 11th, just behind Rogers.

Jamie has him 13th. So, why should I have faith in Kyler Murray? He's not, he coming off a five point game, a 4.8 fantasy points. He's facing the Jets. They're, let's see, they are fourth best against quarterbacks. I don't know, he barely throws.

He has zero carries inside the five yard line and he's the top 13 quarterback. What Heath? What? Yeah, I don't think, I think you're putting a little bit too much weight on. He's a top 13 quarterback. That's kind of the range that you put a guy that could score 25 or 30 fantasy points basically any week and also doesn't have a lot of floor. It's a, it's really right in the range of is there a quarterback that I want to start?

And I did actually move Daniel Jones ahead of him. So I think I've got him 12th now instead of 11th. And I want to start Daniel Jones against the Carolina Panthers. But I'm not going to go to a guy I don't feel good about because of Kyler's floor, because Kyler has more upside than pretty much all of the QB twos. So here's you mentioned their fourth in fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks. I think that's a little skewed based on some of the early season matchups.

Now they played you look at what they've done lately. Yes, they were good against CJ Stroud. His offensive line was a mess. He was down to his top receivers. He scored 11 and a half fantasy points. The four games, three games prior to that, four games prior to three games prior to excuse me, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson and the combination of the Patriots guys, they each scored 19.9 fantasy points or more. I think if Kyler does that,

that puts him in top 15 range, maybe borderline top 12. And the thing about all three of those situations was rushing touchdown for Josh Allen, rushing touchdown for Russell Wilson, rushing touchdown and almost huge game for Drake may 46 rushing yards in the half against the jets. So if Kyler runs in this game, which hopefully he does, because that's when he's been at his best fantasy wise, he could have a huge game here. I like that's good. Yeah. And I'm still hopeful that Rogers does well enough that the Jets do well enough where

we get a lot of past temps or a lot for him anyway, more than 30 pass attempts. What do you do against the Dolphins? He scored 26.2 fantasy points against Dolphins when he threw 36 passes. But Kyler's averaging 28 on the season, 28 pass attempts. And then you also, you know, you're coming off the game where he just had where he was miserable, you know, no touchdowns, six yards rushing like they didn't need him. Oh my gosh, did he play poorly in that game? The Trey McBride play I just I can't get over it. He was open for five seconds.

He spins right. If he spins right, instead of spinning left. It's the easiest touchdown throw all over half a square. Oh my. All right. James Connor, would you start James Connor over Breece Hall? Yes. I have them very close, but I do think I have Connor one spot ahead. This is what I wanted to mention about James Connor. They're both not catching the ball.

Yeah, but Connor's got 18 targets in his last five games. So he doesn't catch the ball a ton, but back early in the season, he wasn't catching it at all. They are throwing to him now, so that's good. But he has the sixth most carries the sixth most yards and the 16th most touchdowns in the NFL Six most carries the six most yards and only has four touchdowns He also doesn't have a receiving touchdown the Cardinals have only run 14 plays from inside the five yard line That's the sixth fewest in the NFL

But I would say Connor's touchdown luck just hasn't been very good By the way, can you name the running back who has the most carries without a touchdown this year? Most carries without a touchdown. He's in the NFC. Rushing touchdown. He's in the NFC East or West? Most carries without a rushing touchdown. He's on Dallas. Most carries without a rushing touchdown. He's on Dallas. Rico? Yeah.

Good job. Good job. But he's got three receiving touchdowns. That's crazy. And Arizona's wide receivers. Okay, we're not gonna start Michael Wilson or Greg Dorch, but how do we feel about Marvin Harrison? We've talked about Khalil Shakir and Amari Cooper.

We talked about Deandre Hopkins and Cortland Sutton. Where does Harrison, Jamie, where does he rank? You guys have him ranked very similarly with that group. He's behind them, you know, and it's it sucks. He's behind Sutton and Hopkins. He's behind Sutton. He's ahead of Hopkins. Okay, go ahead. Keep going. In that range. Again, he needs six plus targets. If he gets six plus targets, there's a good track record there. If he doesn't, he just gonna stink.. If he gets six plus targets, there's a good track record there. If he doesn't, he just going to stink.

So to your point, you want to see Kyler Murray throwing the ball and hopefully leaning on him. So not an easy matchup. I think if he avoids Saas Gardner, he'll be okay, but could be in for a tough afternoon. And I do have currently Hopkins and Sutton ahead of them. I'm maybe just a little bit lower in full PPR. Listen, it's hard to bench them for the same reason that we were talking about Kyler still being QB 13. Because there is, we've seen it, there is enormous upside and there's upside with that type of profile.

But there's also just huge weekly risk. And I don't think there's a lot of downfield wide receivers that have had great games against this defense. The thing is with the Jets, like how good are they defensively? I feel like they're a little overrated. Because they just and this same thing happened last year. Good wide receivers don't really struggle against the Jets. They haven't faced a lot of good wide receivers. The Niners guys were not good in week one. Remember, Ayuk dropped a touchdown.

Debo had a rushing touchdown, but he wasn't great. But like, I don't know. I mean, Pickens had a huge game. Tank Dell just had a huge game. Justin Jefferson had over 90 yards and a few pass interference penalties. Who have they stopped? They haven't stopped anyone that good.

I think they're overrated. The one thing that we did see last week, and you know, Hassan Reddick should get more and more comfortable, especially with additional time. They sacked CJ Stroud a lot. They hit him a lot. Eight times. Eight sacks. You know, and so if their pass rush is getting better,

it's gonna make everything else better. All right, I just wanna see, just curious for my own benefit here, where Gardner ranks 51st in coverage on PFF. I just don't think he's having his typical year. All right, and start training, and no hesitation with Trey McBride. No.

Micah Sicki or Trey McBride? McBride. All right, JetsDST, Heath likes him sixth, Jamie's got him 15th. They really were awful for three straight games before sacking CJ Stroud eight times. Hopefully Hassan Reddick helps them going forward. We're gonna take a break.

We got Pittsburgh and Washington when we come back. Another very interesting game here. Two defenses playing pretty well. Two quarterbacks playing pretty well. We'll be right back on FFT. Yeah. How about a commander Steelers promo on YouTube going into this game.

Pittsburgh's at Washington, your updated stat of the game. It's a brand new one about Washington. Well, it's not, I'm getting rid of that old Washington's things against wide receivers. Here's the updated stat of the game on the commanders. In their last six games, they have held Marvin Harrison Jr., Amari Cooper, Deontay Johnson, DJ Moore, and Malik neighbors to 60 or fewer yards with only Marvin

Harrison Jr. out of those five receivers scoring a touchdown. They did allow a huge game to Zay Flowers, but as we know, he can't be stopped. But is this a bad matchup, Jamie, for George Pickens? Are we nervous about Pickens? No. Okay. Well, thanks for ruining my stat. No, it's cool. I don't know that. I don't feel like it's a good matchup. Um, it's kind of like the Arizona situation. Like they've, they've improved and they're not the laughing stock anymore. And they're not somebody I want to take advantage of, but I just, I'm pretty confident in the way that Russell Wilson's playing quarterback right now. And George Pickens has had almost a 30% target share all year long.

And we think he's really good. And so a good wide receiver with a huge target share and a fine quarterback, you pretty much just start him against everybody. And you should have had two touchdowns last week. Yeah, yeah. Two weeks ago. I think if the commanders do it again, then we have to really start thinking about it. But I don't know, watching the Giants commanders game, I was not impressed with their past

defense with their defense really at all. I don't, but maybe they'll rebound. But the Giants moved the ball pretty well. Russell Wilson is a sit. He's playing nicely, but he's a sit. Like I know you don't like Aaron Rodgers. Would you start Rodgers over Wilson, Jamie? Yeah, I don't necessarily view Wilson as a sit. I just don't think he's a start.

Like I don't think he's going to have a huge game similar to what he had in his last game where he was around 17 fantasy points. I think that's kind of where Like I don't think he's gonna have a huge game similar to what he had in his last game where he was around 17 fantasy points. I think that's kind of where he'll live most weeks. It's tough to say he's going to get multiple touchdowns until we see it consistently. Now, he had a rushing touchdown two games ago, and he played better statistically in his first game against Jets. But you got to give this Washington defense a little bit of credit based on how they perform recently. Let's talk about Najee Harris. Heath, you have him 10th in PPR six and non PPR. Dave and Jamie are closer to 20 on Najee Harris.

So nobody's saying to sit Najee, but you really like him. He's running better than he has in his entire career. 26% avoid rate, which is way higher than he's ever had before. He's even the last two games when Jalen Warren's been back, he's averaging 20 rush attempts per game. The Washington commanders are giving up a league worst 5.2 yards per carry to opposing running backs. This is a smash matchup for a runner. Now he hasn't done much as a pass catcher. That's the one area the commanders have been good against running backs. They haven't

given up much as pass catchers. So I think there will see 20 rush attempts for Najee. We'll see 100 yards and hopefully we get a touchdown too. Najee or Tyrone Tracy? Najee. Tracy. Wait, Jamie, so is is Purdy your start of the week or is Tracy? Purdy is my start of the week, mostly because as we've noted on our Waverwire shows, there are no significant injuries to running backs.

OK, so all the main guys are getting started in too high of a percentage of leagues. And if I don't use Tyrone Tracy in the running back section, I don't really have a lot of guys to use. There was a lot more quarterback options. So it was more of a strategic schematic thing than it was a who do I like better across the board. And as I write in there,

I said Tyrone Tracy was almost the start of the week. But if I didn't use him, I'd be looking like, hey, let's start Derek Henry. He's great. I had to use guys that are somewhat in a gray area. Fair. Pittsburgh wide receivers, we're going to sit Mike Williams, but apparently we're going to start George Pickens full steam ahead. And he's 13th for Heath and ninth for Jamie and even higher for Dave. And Pat Friar-Muth, we're gonna sit. Jaden Daniels is fifth. So, you'd start Joe Burrow ahead of Jaden Daniels, right?

I would, yes. And Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts? Yep. Okay. I have Burrow second. Okay, but ahead of, but those are the four guys ahead of Daniel. Right, right. Everyone has him fifth.

Heath, how are you approaching the Washington running backs? The Steelers are 11th against opposing running backs, but only four yards per carry. They give up a lot of receiving yards to running backs. It's not really Robinson's thing. So how are you approaching the commander's running backs? Well, we've not ranked Brian Robinson yet. So that will make a big difference. If Brian Robinson Jr. is back, then I would rank him as a low end number two

running back and Austin Eckler as a high end flex. If Brian Robinson Jr. is out, then Austin Eckler is a must start running back. And if Robinson Jr. is out, he was limited on Wednesday, are we preferring Chris Rodriguez or Jeremy McNichols? I'd prefer to not. But those are some of the only running backs that I'm thinking of my IDP league and I would have to start one of those guys I think because it's just my RB to situation is that bad. I would go with Rodriguez. I think just given the matchup, it's the point, but given the matchup, like, why?

Why? I think just given the matchup, it's the point, but given the matchup, like, why? Why? Yeah. I know this race is desperate, but you know, like, hopefully most people aren't. Oh, for, yeah. My number two running back in that league is Devin Singletary. Right. So, um, Rodriguez, it's not, it's my worst. It's might be my worst team.

I thought for a minute, I was like, I might finish in last place, but I'm on a two game win streak. I would rather start Justice Hill tonight than one of those guys. I don't, he's not available. I would love to see. My team, cause I just look, cause I play Adam's week. My team is so much better than Adam's team

and he's like two games ahead of me. Really? All right. Not even close when you look at the rosters. I got Tyreek Hill, man. And I got Pacheco waiting for our playoff run. All right. So yeah, Brian Robinson Jr.

If he plays or Kareem Hunt. Hunt. Probably Hunt. Brian Robinson Jr. If he plays or Rashad White against the Niners. White and PPR. Robinson for me. Any hesitation with Terry McLaurin?

Nope. I'm starting him. Okay, 98 yards or a touchdown in seven straight games. The Steelers are 11th against wide receivers. They've been pretty good. They've held Drake London, Cortland Sutton, C.D. Lamb, Devontae Adams to fewer than 12 points. Malik neighbors had 14 points last week 14.1

So they've been good, but mccloren has been just phenomenal and I believe in the last seven weeks He leads the nfl in end zone targets. I believe all right, uh, zacker at starter said heath I would like to sit him Okay Uh, not a bad streamer, but it's not a must star guy. I think we had the last week. Mike Gasecki and Taysom Hill were the two big waiver wire ads. I'd start both those guys over.

Okay. Sam Laporta or Zach Ertz? Still Laporta. Buffalo's at Indianapolis. I have a bunch of stats of the game. I don't think you're going to care about a couple of them. Stat of the game that probably won't move you. Dalton Kincaid had five to seven targets

in six straight games before 10 targets last week. Let's just say Dalton Kincaid gets five to seven targets. Well, there have been four tight ends with five to seven targets against the Colts, and three of them scored at least 16.7 PPR fantasy points. Pat Fryermuth, John O Ouse Smith and Josh Oliver. They stink against basically everyone but tight ends. They're bad. Dalton Kinkade or Zach Hertz? Kinkade. It's Kinkade but man could he do something to justify his draft capital

in either fantasy football or the NFL. He has 52 yards is his season high. Yeah. He gets a lot of red zone targets and he gets, he's got four end zone targets, which isn't bad. He's just not scoring. He's not really doing much. Sam Laporte or Kinkade?

He's not really doing much. Sam Laporte or Kinkade? It's Kinkade. All right, here's the stat of the game that definitely won't move you. I said that stat of the game that probably won't move you was about Kinkade, but stat of the game that definitely won't move you is this one. This is the third time in Josh Allen's career

that he has 25 or fewer rushing yards in four straight games. It has never happened in five straight games, 25 or fewer rushing yards for Josh Allen. Heath is so disgusted by tight ends that he had to step away from the podcast for a minute. And here's the stat of the game that actually could move you, Jamie. The Colts have allowed 78 yards or a touchdown

to 14 wide receivers in nine games. Outside wide receivers specifically have owned them. So I would, I mean, I have Cooper in a couple of leagues and I would not hesitate to start him, but, but maybe I should because he really hasn't been that good. He's playing hurt. You know, what do you think if he plays? I think he's the number three receiver, you know, not somebody I'd have a lot of faith in, but clearly the matchup is in his favor. You know, you hope he's learned the offense by now and feels a little bit more comfortable but how healthy is he? You know, if he missed the game last week still limited on Wednesday, could be trending in the

right direction and probably Keon Coleman's status sways this as well. They said Coleman could miss several weeks so I'm assuming he's out. Fine. So if there is no Coleman and it is Cooper then more excited about him but not a must-start guy. Well, Josh Allen is a must-start guy. Start him, James Cook. You know, just not getting a lot of carries. Only three games of more than 12 carries. Some of that has been game script and blowouts. He plays about 55% of the snaps every week. How are you feeling about James Cook against the Colts? I think he's just a must-start guy. You know, you just hope that he finds the end zone and you know, continues to, you know,

be a good fantasy running back. He's obviously good NFL running back, but you know, good fantasy running back in minimal touches. So I'm not even thinking about it if I have him starting. Okay. The Christian McCaffrey or James Cook? McCaffrey. All right.

And don't start Ray Davis, but roster him. Okay. We talked about the receiver. Well, we talked about Amari Cooper, but I'd start Ray Davis over the Washington guys. Yeah, I would too, but he's not available. You know, go get, go get, go get some small JP Ryan. We're gonna get a revenge game touchdown, red zone. Another, another red zone target for him. Okay, let's go ahead and take a ticket. I'll see who's available. Heath, what are your thoughts? You're a little bit lower on Khalil Shakir. I think I'm about 30th Dave and Jamie have around 21st.

Yeah, I will I kind of left their target share in limbo a little bit for the possibility that we might get Amore Cooper back. So his rankings not going to change much get Amore Cooper back. So his ranking's not going to change much if Amore Cooper is activated. If we get Cooper ruled out, I will move Shakir up a little bit. I still think like you're probably getting, it's a very PPR heavy performance. He's got one really good yardage game this year and two touchdowns. Um, so it's really based on the catches. I have really good news for everybody.

I have Tyler Alger in that league and I'm starting him against Jamie. So there you go. That's much better. That is better. Much better. It's probably going to score a rushing touchdown against the playing the saints, right? Yeah.

Oh, that's fantastic. I mean, you might have two rushing touchdowns. Start of the week. Put them in your account. Start of the week. Dalton Kincaid is ninth for Jamie, eighth for, or ninth for both of them. We've talked enough about him. So go to the other side. Sit Joe Flacco. Yes. We keep the Saints simple. Start Taylor, start downs. I mean, the Colts, sorry.

Colts, start Taylor, start Downs. I mean, the Colts, sorry. Colts, start Taylor, start Downs. Yep. Yep. It's a much better matchup for Jonathan Taylor. The Bills give up the second most fantasy points to running backs. And Taylor actually, with Joe Flacco, he gets targets. Nine targets in two games with Joe Flacco. Target share above 16% in both games, so that's good.

Josh Downs, I guess I should do some Josh Downs ors. And I'll, all right, you know what? Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna look at the chat. If you have any questions about this game, Bill's Colts, fire away. Khalil Shakir, Joann Jennings, or Jordan Addison, PPR? Shakir.

Yeah, Shakir. Okay, just give me a second here. I'm gonna take, Flacco or Herbert. Herbert. Yeah. We're going to go back to one from the last game we did. Najee Harris, Tyrone Tracy, Tony Pollard start to Tracy and Harris. I would sit well, his will that was starting. I would sit, well, his will level starting.

I would sit Tracy. Josh Downs or Jacoby Myers. One's on a buy. So. I'm gonna start Downs. Downs or Hopkins. Downs. Downs or Mooney.

Mooney. Is that with London playing, not playing or both? Either one. Okay. Kate Otten or Dalton Kincaid? Otten. Yep. Flack over Caleb Williams.

Caleb. Yeah. Next game please. Bill's DST is a start. Denver at Kansas City. Stat of the game. Let's take a look at Cortland Sutton because he's been pretty hot lately other than that game with no targets.

But this is a tough matchup. And in tough matchups, he's had no more than 60 yards in any of the four games. And he did score a touchdown in two of them, so that's good. But this is my stat of the game for Cortland Sutton. He's had an A-dot of 13.2 or more yards in five straight games.

So I looked at all right wide receivers with you know targeted 13 or more yards downfield. The Chiefs have seen the second fewest targets have allowed the fewest completions and the second fewest yards on past attempts of 13 or more area yards. And I believe that is specific to wide receivers, but I don't know if that matters, but that's terrible news for Courtland Sutton. But you guys don't really wanna start him anyway, right? I'm a number two receiver.

I mean, I just think he's seen enough volume that I'll still buy into it, but I don't want to, I'm not expecting him to have a huge game. Yeah, I really don't like the idea. And I've got him, I think a huge game. I, yeah. I really don't like the idea. And I've got him, I think 30 or something, 29 or 30. I really don't like the idea of trusting a rookie quarterback against Spags and Arrowhead. It's like somebody catching passes from him.

This could be a double digit passing yard game. Nix was so bad last week. He still scored 17.7 fantasy points, he caught a touchdown. But he arguably missed three touchdowns passes. And that's what's frustrating. It's like I kind of feel like this offense is working to go pretty, pretty well. Like they're they've been much better than I thought they'd be. But Nick's just sometimes he just is so

inaccurate downfield. And he just whiffs. You're sitting Bo Nicks, right? Yes, but he is a rookie quarterback and he's been the second best rookie quarterback this season so I don't think shouldn't be too hard on him. No, but that's right. You know, sometimes he does some really good things. Sometimes it's tough to rank a guy like that because the opportunities might be there but you can't trust them to complete a simple pass downfield to an open receiver. It's tough to rank a guy like that because the opportunities might be there, but you can't trust them to complete a simple pass downfield to an open receiver. It's like Caleb Williams, honestly, too.

Just not playing well enough consistently. I've got in the Scott Fishbowl just a brilliant quarterback room. I have Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson, Bo Nix, and Drake May. And I think all four of them, because of the scoring in that league, our top 20 quarterbacks this season on a per game basis. But I'm really struggling. I'm obviously starting Daniel Jones,

but really struggling with Nix versus Wilson versus May. I have them all back to back to back in my rankings. Nix, Wilson. Oh man. I think I would go with Wilson. Jamie, Nick's Wilson, Drake may. Uh, I'd go. Well, remember it's four points for past touchdown and it's a point per or

a half point for a rush first down. Oh yeah. No, then don't go with him. Go with a bone next. No. Yeah. Bonin or Drake may be running through all kinds of yards. All right, we're uh, sit Javante Williams? Yes. Yeah, I'd like to. Tyler Algier or Javante

Williams? I'd start Javante. Okay. Uh, and Sutton, we talked about, any interest in uh, Adam Troutman And Sutton, we talked about any interest in Adam Troutman in this matchup? Okay. Patrick Mahomes, we have a Patrick Mahomes or Brock Purdy question. Purdy, yep, it's Purdy. Okay, how do you feel about Mahomes this week against the Broncos who are sixth best against quarterbacks

but just got destroyed by Lamar Jackson last week? our sixth best against quarterbacks, but just got destroyed by Lamar Jackson last week. I don't think that what my homes has done the last two weeks in the matchup that he's done it against means that he's back as a safe fantasy quarterback. So if you've been starting him, what we say was 85% started on Wednesday, you've been starting him this entire time, why would you go away from it after what he just did? But I think we probably would all agree Daniel Jones has a better matchup so you can start Daniel Jones over Patrick Mahomes. Purdy has a better matchup, you can start him over Mahomes. Darnold playing better over the course of the season, better matchup start him over Mahomes. You know, I don't know how many quarterbacks you want

to look at here, but like I would start him over Rogers. I would start him over Baker this week. I just don't like the matchups for those guys and they've been playing better than him. So take it forward and forth. Yeah, I've got him QB 16. I think there's three guys that I have on teams with Mahomes that at various times I have started over him or gone back and forth.

It's Bo Nix, it's Daniel Jones, it's Kirk Cousins. This week I'm starting cousins and Jones over my homes, but I am starting my homes over Nix. How do you feel about Kareem Hunt this week? I mean, he's he's a must star guy until proven otherwise just depends on who you have on your roster, you know, so number two running back. I think you just got to hope he continues to find the end zone. You said it, what would Isaiah Pacheco be

doing in this offense right now? And Kareem Hunt is just finding ways to get the job done. They had Mahomes mic'd up. I think it was the NFL handle, ex-handle, Twitter handle, tweeted out him, just run it, just run it. He wanted Hunt to get the touchdown at the end. So it's an unselfish situation where they're letting him get every opportunity inside the red zone and he's coming through. He's averaging like 24 carries or something like that in his last four games. But he doesn't catch the ball ever and if he doesn't score you could have a nine point game.

So I shouldn't say every catches one pass a game. Again, matchups and weeks are going to determine it. But you look at what Najee Harris has been doing, you look at what David Montgomery has been doing, you look at what Kareem has been doing. You know, maybe J.K. Dabham is a little bit a step ahead of that because he's actually catching a few more passes. But for these guys that aren't catching the ball, are they scoring? Are they producing? How are they getting the job done?

You know, so Najee had acash game last time he played. Prior to that, he didn't catch the ball, I think, at all in the previous two games. So these guys that aren't involved in the passing game, you're just hoping that they find the end zone. So to me, I just view him like Montgomery. Okay. And Deandre Hopkins, the top 30? Yeah.

Just outside for me. I'm nervous about Sir Tan. Yeah. I've got 24th. I'm gonna make a case here. Just what did we talk about last week with Zay Flowers? And we talked about his slot rate and Zay Flowers going into the game,

I think he had something like a 40% slot rate and he actually played in the slot 55% of the time last week against the Broncos. Really didn't see much Patrick Sir Tan at all. So I looking at what Hopkins did last week against the Broncos really didn't see much Patrick Surtan at all so I looking at what Hopkins did last week for the Chiefs and I think they're they used him kind of like Rashid Rice He's not as explosive, but he had a 60% played 60% of the snaps So that's the thing I don't know if he's ever gonna play a full snap share like he hasn't played more than 71% of the snaps in any game

This season he's got this knee a full snap share. Like he hasn't played more than 71% of the snaps in any game this season. He's got that knee thing that he had earlier in the year, but he had a 7.3 A-dot and a 38% slot rate. And 38% slot rate was a season high. And with Tennessee, DeAndre Hopkins ran go routes. His go route rate was 22.2% or higher in five of six games. Go routes are not good for fantasy, as Jacob Gibbs has informed me.

But with Chiefs, it's been 7.1% and 14.7%. So they're just using him differently. It's a short area guy. Got a couple of end zone targets last week, I think. Anyway, I like that, you know, and gives me hope that he could do better against Zortan rather than if he were like on the Titans and they were just using him the way they used to use him.

That was a much more detailed, much more elaborate. But also what I said yesterday is just, I think Andy Reid's probably going to get Deandre Hopkins away from Patrick's or 10 on enough. You got to wonder and this is just speculating. Did the did the Broncos learn their lesson of not putting their best corner on the other team's best receiver no matter where he lines up?

Well, I've watched so many Surtan snaps because he's faced these number one receivers and he will follow these guys into the slot. I would say about half the time, just a guess. But it did happen with Pickens. It happened with Metcalf. Metcalf barely went in the slot, 12%. Happened with Evans, Garrett Wilson. He'll follow them sometimes.

And he's not say flowers, like, you know, so I get the hesitation. Right, this is the type of receiver that he matches up much better with. Yeah. Yeah, so you got on one hand, this is the type of receiver that Sertane matches up better.

On the other hand, the Chiefs are using Hopkins differently than we've really seen him be used. He's a big slot. He is a big slot, but not a downfield guy necessarily. I know he had that awesome catch. All right, and start Travis Kelsey. And the Chiefs DST you can start. What about the Broncos DST?

No. I don't love this week at DST, so I think they're right around 12 for me, the Broncos. Let's go to Minnesota at Jacksonville. And your stat of the game is a very simple one. The Jaguars allow the most fantasy points to the quarterbacks. So if we look at Sam Darnold, I know he's back to back with Brock Purdy for Jamie. How do you rank those two guys, Heath Purdy versus Darnold? I believe they are also back to back for me.

I'm not sure which one I've got higher. Like they are right there. I've got Darnold one spot ahead of Purdy, but I wanna start both. I guess some people may have both of them. And there's seven and eight for you. And okay, it's very simple. Those top five, Jackson, Hertz, Burrow,

Allen, Jaden Daniels, they're ahead of Sam Darnold. For Jamie, Brock Purdy is ahead. For Dave, Matthew Stafford and Kirk Cousins are ahead. And for Heath, Kirk Cousins is ahead. And then it's Sam Darnold. So he is top eight for everyone. He is seventh for Jamie and Heath. Any hesitation on Aaron Jones this week coming off a couple of games where he has struggled a bit? One word for you. Jacksonville? Jacksonville.

Yeah, this is a okay. You know what? The tough calls are Addison and Hawkinson. Jamie, what are we doing with Addison and Hawkinson? Addison is a borderline number three receiver. You know, he's clearly proven to be touched on dependent at this point. So if he scores, you'll be okay. His two best games have come when he's found the end zone. If he doesn't score, he's just not getting the volume that you like to see. So it's hard to trust him.

I'm going to buy into Hawkinson this week simply because the matchup, I mean, the Jaguars have been so bad against opposing tight ends. Now, part of that, you could say, came during the stretch of games where Alua Khan was not there. And Alua Khan comes back last week and they're better statistically against Greg Calcutera.

He did have five catches for 30 yards, but I think based on Hawkinson shaking up the rust, I would start him over Laporta and Jake Ferguson this week, just based on matchup. So I've got him at the back of the I'm faking your ranking because the projection is terrible range. Um, very close to tight end 12. I think the problem that we saw last week is like Jacksonville could give up a touchdown or two to a tight end and DJ stock Hawkinson still not have a good game.

You just got to hope that he plays most of the snaps. It's only played half the snaps last week. We do have some Hawkinson questions. Hawkinson McBride or Micah Sicki. Two of those things are not like the other for this week. Right, McBride is the answer, but Hawkinson's not close to those guys for me. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence or Matthew Stafford? No, just to go back to that one for a second.

So McBride's got his bi-week in week 11. And which one would you rather carry? Because if there's no Higgins, it's easy Kosicki. But Higgins may return. Hawkinson is the guy you carry by week 11. Yeah. By next week, I would hope. So you're dropping the Gaseki for Hawkinson to keep Hawkinson. So here's my question, Adam.

Somebody made that waiver claim on Wednesday morning or this morning, and now they've realized we've just told them you should drop Gaseki. So they're going to drop him so nobody can use him now on Thursday night. Are you going to make him immediately available or is he on the waiver wire? No, that's fine. I thought if you were picking up players and then dropping them and not using them for that week, it wasn't a, they should go right back into free agents. No, it wasn't a malicious intent.

Why you would put, you would make Kisiki available? No, I don't think you can judge intent. Yeah, you can judge intent. You know, when a guy makes four ad drops in a row, dropping running backs to keep them on waiver, that's intent. Somebody did that in one of our leagues? No, that was the, remember the fantasy cops thing that went viral with the other league?

Oh, right, right. The producer league. I'm just saying if this guy's playing somebody that doesn't have a tight end, and he had McBride and Hawkinson already and then picked up Kosicki, it's kind of suspicious. to Brighton Hawkinson already and then picked up Kosicki. It's kind of suspicious. Sorry.

Lawrence or Stafford? Stafford. Stafford. Okay, I saw a good one. Addison, what was an Addison one? It was the Addison or Wandell one. Okay, what's the answer? I would go Wandell and PPR Addison and on.

It was this one. Yeah, agreed. ET PPR Addison and on. It was this one. Yeah. Agreed. ETN or Addison. Addison probably has more upside given the matchup. How bad is it right now for the Jaguars running backs for fantasy? Awful. Isn't take Bigsby on the injury report?

Yep. I see. That would alleviate a big headache if you're the ETN manager. But Bigsby on the injury report? Yep. I see. That would alleviate a big headache if you're the ETN manager. But he's been on the injury report, so it's not surprising that he's on it. Well, if he misses the game. Yeah, but last week he was the game time decision

then he played, so those guys usually do show up on the injury report the next week. I think Jamie's answering for you how bad it is for the Jackson. Yeah, right. As if we're just praying for something. Yeah. Someone's is here's a question from Jesse is Travis ETN droppable.

So go back, start with your IDP league and work backwards. Obviously you'd pick up ETN if he was available there in a 10 team league. If ETN is available, you may not pick them up. Yeah. Right. Do you like Trevor Lawrence in this game? Because the Vikings, the 14th against quarterbacks, they see a lot of pass attempts.

I think the thing about Lawrence is the injuries a little troubling. You know, remember last year, he had this knee injury that he played through, I think it was knee injury, ankle injury. He played through and he was miserable. And there was the talk of why didn't they shut him down? Because they were still competing for a playoff spot. Now they're not competing for a playoff spot. So will they, they you know do right by him? especially the franchise knowing if they're gonna move on from Doug Peterson, so does Peterson get the

Decision to make on Trevor Lawrence's health But if he plays and he's proven to be a tough guy that the matchup is is good and for what it's worth You know, it's been a little ugly how he's gotten it done So last week two interceptions, but he got you two rushing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns in his last two games. He's basically been living in that 19 point range. I think he's a low end starter. So if he was a hundred percent healthy, like I said, I'd start him over Aaron Rogers and

Baker Mayfield this week, which is certainly against conventional thinking, but I like the matchup and I like the way he's playing. Starters at Brian Thomas Jr. The only way I would be concerned is if it's not Lawrence. Would you start Pickens or Brian Thomas Jr. Pickens. Pickens. Josh Downs or Brian Thomas Jr.

Thomas as of now Downs if Lawrence is up. Thomas. Najee Harris or Brian Thomas Jr. Najee. Thomas and PPR, Najee and every other format. Any thoughts on Parker Washington? I picked him up in a few leagues. I don't have a problem starting him if Lawrence is out there in deeper three receiver leagues

where you play a flex. And so I'm hopeful. Look six targets last week. It's a great matchup as you mentioned. 30 second I think there still are and most fancy points allowed to opposing wide receivers they are so hopefully you know those six targets turn into something but he's gonna get opportunities again and I think he's gonna get opportunities rest of season like this is one of those you know you go back to I don't remember how we said it I'm sure I probably said McMillan

so I'm gonna change now that we're two weeks into it. You know, you'd rather have Parker Washington than Jalen McMillan because McMillan's dates on date on expectations about to expire with with Evans coming back. Whereas Parker Washington is going to have the rest of season in this opportunity. Questions from the chat. Evan Ingram is a start. He's a top nine tight end. Jordan Addison or Marvin Harrison Jr. Harrison. Harrison. I think you asked this one already earlier. Sorry, Drake London or Brian Thomas? London. London. Lad McConkey or Brian Thomas Jr. We're gonna go with Brian Thomas there. And hmm. All right. Oh, Ray Ray McLeod or Parker Washington?

Only way it would be Ray Ray is if London's out. Yeah. Okay. But you know what, we'll take one more break. We have a couple games left. Detroit at Houston is next and then- Somebody just asked, we didn't cover really Jalen Warren and the Steelers game.

Oh yeah. I'd start him over Tyler Algier. I would too. I would, but I don't want to. Like I said, that's the one thing commanders have done well is stop pass catching running backs. I want to make sure he's rostered though. 64% roster coming into the week. Like with the way that their schedule's about to turn,

he could be very valuable if they're chasing points. Okay, Detroit at Houston, when we come back on fantasy football today.. Okay, Detroit at Houston, when we come back on fantasy football today. All right, Detroit at Houston, the Lions on a six game win streak, they're on fire. And I said earlier in the show, I said at the top of the show, why is their defense better than we expected?

Why is it better than the yards they give up? Because they're not good on a per play basis or yards per game or anything like that, but they're fifth in points per game allowed. Well, the Lions are great in the red zone, fourth best red zone defense, and they have the best turnover margin in the NFL. They turn you over defensively,

they get a lot of interceptions, and they are great in the red zone. So that has been the key for them. Jared Goff is just, man, imagine if this guy would throw 35 passes, how many points he'd probably score? 45 points, but Jared Goff, I said that was my one question for this game was start or sit. I think Jamie said start. Heath, did you say sit Jared Goff?

I've got him 14th, so he's not like a must sit at all, but he's not a must start for me either. We had this conversation on on CBS Sports HQ on Sunday. Rank the MVP candidates right now. Jackson Goff. Well, I'm gonna make everybody so mad. Jackson Goff. Derek Henry. I'm just thinking out loud. So no, it's fine. I honestly don't even I would say Justin Jefferson may be for I'm not talking fantasy. I'm talking. Yeah, I just he's like, he's incredible. I don't

I don't know. I can't hope Joe burrow. We probably going into last weekend and if you can, you know, chime in after this. It was from bet us I think is where I saw the stats, the odds. It was Jackson one. Josh Allen to Patrick Mahomes three, and Jared Goff four. So that's the thing I was gonna make everybody so mad about is the problem with Mahomes is until they lose, he has to be top three. No, he doesn't. If the Chiefs go undefeated, he's the MVP.

No, he's not. The Marj Jackson is playing so much better than him. If he's doing what he's done the last two games, despite the fact what happened early in the season, he's the MVP without a doubt. The Mar Jackson is running circles around everyone. He is the clear MVP, the clear MVP. I would think that's how it's going to go,

but I mean, you're talking about a guy that goes undefeated. He could go 50 and 0 this year. The Mar Jackson is winning the MVP. He is, unless things change. Looking at these odds right here, Alan and Jackson are tied at plus 300. Mahomes at plus 425. Goss, golf is fourth at plus 750. Yeah. Golf would be second to me, but I like that.

That's an incredible season. I don't really feel like Alan is having a special season. Unfortunately, these guys get judged based on their past performance. So that's working against Mahomes. But it's really a stupid. No, it's a great question. But it's irrelevant because Lamar Jackson is the MVP. Somebody in our chat wrote, he should be one, two, and three.

And that is true. All right. So golf is 10th for Jamie and 14th for Heath. Any running backs you'd start over David Montgomery? They're kind of spicy. Like would you start Tracy over him? Yeah, I would. Yeah. Chuba Hubbard over him? Yep. Yep. And PPR and non PPR. No. That's David Montgomery. How about Najee Harris versus David Montgomery?

Najee. Najee. All right. Kamara versus Montgomery. Only in trade. Don't make that trade. Yeah. Kamara might be worth more than my two Montgomery's. Is Amara St. Brown in your top 12? Top 10. Yeah. I think I've got him 17. Texans think. How many consecutive I was just reading on ESPN today. How many consecutive completions from golf to St. Brown? Do you know? It's something like that.

It's insane. See if I could, I'll try to find that stat. And then what do we think about Jamis and Williams? You know, I was thinking yesterday, I missed the magic eight ball. Gabe Davis is so irrelevant. I can't use it on him. Is Jamis and Williams the new magic eight ball guy?

I mean, look, he has a magic eight ball. He's got a magic eight ball. Gabe Davis is so irrelevant. I can't use it on him. Is Jamison Williams the new magic eight ball guy? I mean, look, he had been fairly consistent with his production prior to the last game. You always get nervous when a guy gets suspended for performance dancing drugs. How much of that was actually legitimate? I hope not, but he's, he's a big play waiting to happen every game, you know, so must start guy of

no way. Three receiver league where you're trying to win your week. Yeah. I mean, these are the kind of guys he loves, right? You, you, the, the throw them enough flex. That's a great guy to have there. Um, yeah, I've got St. Brown has caught in his last five games. Oh my God. What? This makes no sense. What happened?

The Panthers have signed Tuba Hubbard to a four year 33.2 million dollar contract. Oh my goodness. Why? This team is very poorly run. There's $10 million in guaranteed money. I mean, great to reward the player for what he's done. But why? I mean, why draft Jonathan Brooks? Because they just got a fourth round pick for

Mingo. So they're good now. After they paying Miles Sanders this year. I don't. But one thing I want to say about St. Brown, because it's 27 straight in his last five games. 30 overall. 30 overall. And he because it's 27 straight in his last five games. 30 overall. And he scored a touchdown six games in a row. Yeah. But, and maybe this doesn't matter at all. His yardage totals the last five games, 56, seven, 112, 37, 45.

Yeah. It's bizarre. St. Brown, 30 straight completions between golf and St. Brown, but six straight. It's bizarre. St. Brown. Oh. 30 straight completions between golf and St. Brown, but six straight games with a touchdown. Yeah. It's like, I get it. Heath, would you start Brian Thomas Jr. over St. Brown?

I want to. I don't think I'll probably move St. Brown just ahead of Thomas, but man, like he's had some, he scored a touchdown and scored 8.7 PPR fantasy points two weeks ago. All right. We're taking a little bit too long here. So I'm going to speed things up. Sam Laporta or TJ Hawkinson?

Laporta. Hawkinson for me. Laporta is 12th in both formats for everybody. So he's right on the border. CJ Stroud, Jamie's got him as a sit Heath, you have him 12th in both formats for everybody. So he's right on the border. CJ Stroud, Jamie's got him as a sit. Heath, you have him 12th? 13th. This is obviously contingent on Nico Collins coming back.

We are ranking Nico Collins. Okay, because he did miss practice on Wednesday. If Nico Collins is out, then CJ Stroud would not be in the top 20. But he was a top eight fantasy quarterback the first month of the season. Now he had digs also, but Nico makes a, was a top eight fantasy quarterback the first month of the season. Now he had digs also, but,

Nico makes a, as we've seen, a world of difference. That's interesting, because he only had one like really good game and it was against the Jaguars. Joe Mixon's a start, Nico Collins is the man. What about Tank Del? If Nico, if he doesn't play, I'm sure everyone's going to start Tank Del coming off that game.

If he does play, would you start Tank Del or Jameson Williams. Del regardless. Del's over him regardless. Tank Del or Tyrone Tracy PPR. Tracy. Tracy. From the chat Tank Del or Brian Thomas Jr. Thomas. Thomas unless Niko's out. Tank Dell or Darnell Mooney. Mooney unless Niko's out. If London's out, then Mooney. I think it's Mooney regardless. Jamie, you have the Lions DST sixth.

Is that gonna change? No, the Texans often as Lions, thanks. Yeah, and Heath has them 17th. They just got a pass rusher. All right. Last game, Tennessee at the Chargers. So what's about the a dot? That's the stat of the game. Calvin Ridley 12 point 12 yard a dot with Mason Rudolph 21.1 yard a dot with Will Levis. So is Tony powered and JK Dobbins? Are they easy starts? And who do you

like better? Dobbins over power power is not an easy start. I mean, his workload is definitely worth trusting, but this is a tough matchup, you know? And so I don't, I don't love Tony Pollard. Like I'd start nausea over him, for example, Tracy over him, hunt over him. Like he's, he's a low end number two running back from me this week. Yeah. He's a mid number two running back as long as Spears is out. If Spears is back, then he will be a low end number two.

I think I've got him 17th. But most of the guys that Jamie said I would start over him, I would start Pollard over Tracy. The funny thing is, you know, you call it a tough matchup against the Chargers. They give up the second fewest fantasy points, but 4.4 yards per carry. The secret is they see the fifth fewest

running back carries per game. And they've only given up two touchdowns to running backs all year. But this team's pretty committed to running the ball. So he might have success. However, they've already said publicly, he's wearing down from all the work. So they want to take some off of his plate,

Tony Pollard I'm talking about here. So what would you say like 17th-ish for Pollard? Is that what you said? Okay. Spears is like Warren. You don't have to start him, but you want to roster him. Hopefully he plays this week. All right.

So how is the Calvin Ridley ranking? He's right around 24th for you guys. How was that ranking going to change if Rudolf plays, if Levis comes back instead of Rudolf? It's going to get worse. Of course. Yeah. Okay. Thank great. I mean, yeah, one game over eight fantasy points with Will Levis.

Granted, that was with the Andre Hopkins, but it's just, it's tough to trust. You know, it's, it's, it's not similar to Flacco and Richardson, but it's similar to Flacco and Richardson. Like, you know, the, the veteran quarterback just does a better job in getting him catchable targets. Guessing. Because I'm not projecting it this way. But right now I have Ridley at wide receiver 22. I have Marvin Harrison at 30 and Jalen wattle at 31. I think Ridley probably be right in between those two. Question from the chat. Tony Pollard or Rico Dowdell.

Pollard or Rico Dowdell? Pollard. Uh, Pollard. Let's go over to the Titans or the Chargers here. Justin Herbert, Heath got him 20th, 20th, Jamie's got him 12th. Big disagreement there. Jamie make the case for Herbert. He's playing great. You know, you look at what he's done in his last two matchups, 23 plus fantasy points. He's averaging over 30 pass attempts.

This Titans defense is falling apart from a past perspective Right in front of our eyes, you know, the Jerry's need banged up quadrate days have been placed on IR They they've taken the handcuffs off of Herbert, you know, it's surprising for Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh So I don't see why you can't buy into it somehow I don't want to buy it so completely but but given the matchup, given the recent performances, I think Herbert's worth trusting. Yeah, I'd like, I may move him just a little bit higher. I know one of the things that negatively impacted

his projection, this game has an over-under of 38 and a half, which may be tied for the lowest on the slate. Now they're seven and a half point favorites. That helps a little bit, but a lot of times in a team seven and a half point favorite, helps a little bit but a lot of times in a team seven and a half point favorite, it's not a very big pass volume game. I have some concerns about well, I don't know. Running back is a lot of good running backs, right? But Dobbins, this is also

this is a tough matchup for him. They give up 3.8 yards per carry. Not so much anymore. They'll look at the last few games. So Ramon Dr. Stevens and last week had 10 carries for 16 yards. He'd scored two touchdowns. David Montgomery nine for 33. It was Jamiro Gibbs. Jamiro Gibbs was amazing. But James Cook 12 for 32 and a touchdown Montgomery nine for 33 and a touchdown. They give me a lot of touchdowns. But on a per carry basis,

other than Jamiro Gibbs, they've been great. And Dobbins hasn't really been that good when he's faced teams that are good per carry last week. He did have 25 carries 96 yards in a touchdown against the Broncos. But I don't know, there's no concerns about that. Oh, sorry, that was that was their last. That was their last tough match. That was our last tough matchup. That was not the last one. No, no, no, that was not that was not last week. That was the last time he had a tough match up face the good run defense. But you're not concerned about Dobbins

at all? No, I'm starting them. I think Tennessee's defense is not the same. All right. And then how do we feel about McConkey and Quinton Johnston? High end number three receivers. They are very, very close to 20. I think they're 25th and 26th for me at the position. So that's the definition of high-end number three wide receiver. Okay. Sit well this way, right? Yes. Start the Chargers DST, they're top of the world. We are out of here.

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