Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC); All the Big News (11/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 4, 2021With Aaron Rodgers out, can we still trust Davante Adams? And we react to more of the big news (3:00) including the Odell Beckham drama before getting into Start or Sit with players we love (12:30) an...d players to avoid (15:00). This could be the big week for Myles Gaskin, but we're still not ready to commit to the Broncos WRs ... A couple of dad jokes (20:10), more news and notes (21:00) and rankings disputes (23:30) on Kirk Cousins and Boston Scott ... Start or Sit for Packers-Chiefs (31:10), Texans-Dolphins (39:40), Browns-Bengals (46:00), Bears-Steelers (52:50), Vikings-Ravens (57:30), Broncos-Cowboys (1:01:30) and Bills-Jaguars (1:08:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Okay, we got all the latest.
Aaron Rodgers, Michael Thomas, Christian McCaffrey,
Saquon Barkley, everything you need to know,
plus seven AFC home games.
Here are the games we are looking at today.
Heath, you can put them on the gamometer scale, okay?
How good are they?
Buffalo at Jacksonville.
Oh, 10.
You got the scale upside down.
Cleveland at Cincinnati.
Six.
Houston at Miami.
Five.
Minnesota Baltimore.
Nine. Green BayBaltimore. Nine.
Green Bay-Kansas City.
Well, for entertainment purposes, I'm going to say 10.
Can we ever get Mahomes?
This happened last year, right?
Rodgers got hurt or somebody.
The last time they were supposed to play, one of them didn't play.
It was two years ago when Mahomes hurt his knee.
Chicago. I was close. I. Mahomes. Right. Chicago.
I was close.
I had some of that information.
Correct.
Chicago at Pittsburgh.
Monday night.
Oh.
And we were doing one more game.
Chargers at Eagles.
I think we're doing today.
Ooh, 10.
Or maybe.
No, Denver at Dallas.
Denver at Dallas.
Come on.
Let me do Chargers at Eagles.
No.
We get to Denver.
Denver at Dallas is an eight. It's a good game, too. Yeah-Dallas. Come on. Let me do Chargers-Eagles. No. We get to DeVayne-Puss. Denver-Dallas is an eight.
It's a good game, too.
Yeah.
No, it's not.
How is it?
I think...
Well, we'll see.
All right.
I hope Dak is back.
You just have no idea what way I was judging those.
Was it on the competitiveness of the game, or the total points scored, or the total fantasy
points scored?
I mean, it could be anything.
You know what I think, guys? I think Houston-Miami is a really
fun fantasy game.
A lot of difficult decisions.
Jamie, thoughts?
There's not a lot of difficult decisions
with the Texans. If you want to trust
any of those running backs, go ahead.
It's Brandon Cooks and that's it for me.
What if Terod Taylor plays?
That changes it. That would change it. Yes, but I don't and that's it for me. What if Terod Taylor plays? That changes it.
That would change it, yes.
But I don't think he's going to play.
The Dolphins, I don't think there's a lot of tough decisions either.
I mean, you should be playing Parker.
You should be playing Waddle.
And you should definitely be playing Gaskin and Tua and Gusecki.
Right, but there's going to be, with all those players,
there's going to be a lot of Waddle or this guy, Gaskin or this guy.
Oh, sure, sure.
That's going to be the fun part of it.
I think you should find a way to get the Dolphins in your lineup this week.
Well, let's get to the non-fun part of it.
Aaron Rodgers is out this week.
He cannot return to the team until November 13th, which is next Saturday.
So at Kansas City this week, Seattle next week,
he might miss two games right now.
Look, I don't know what his symptoms are or whatnot,
but let's just say he can't come back until next Saturday.
So obviously that's pushing two games here.
The big question everybody has is what does it do for Devontae Adams?
And Heath, I think, Jamie, last I saw you had Adams in your top five.
Did that change?
No, he's outside of top 12, but we have to make sure Adams is playing
because he's still also on the reserve COVID list.
Yeah, I think we're hoping for him to come back to practice today.
Heath, you have him around 12th.
You guys both are pretty similar, right around 12th.
People are going to start Devontae Adams.
Heath, what should they expect from Devontae Adams?
Can we just stick with people are going to start Devontae Adams?
We don't know what to expect.
We've not seen Jordan Love.
It's the combination of a quarterback making his first start at Arrowhead
versus the just absolute atrocity that is the Kansas City Chiefs defense.
You're going to start Devontae Adams.
The Chiefs defense at least has been respectable
against the kind of bad quarterbacks they've played lately, right?
Heineke and Daniel Jones, right?
So there's that.
Yeah, last time.
But we just saw Mike White throw for 400 yards
against a good Bengals defense, so who knows?
That's true.
And who knows how Daniel Jones would have finished
if Sterling Shepard stayed in the game.
Oh, yeah.
Or if Valde played.
I mean, you know, at least George Love will have his guys.
Yeah.
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
Fingers crossed.
Last time Devonta Adams did not have Aaron Rodgers
was in 2017.
Eight games.
He had 46 catches, 543 yards,
and five touchdowns on 71 targets in those eight games.
So that's almost 1,100 yards per 16 games.
It's 10 touchdowns.
And that would have made him,
last year, that would have made him
a top 10 wide receiver.
That was with Brett Hundley,
who was terrible in those eight games.
Mike McCarthy.
Right.
It's just a different scenario.
And he's a better player.
But they also had Randall Cobb
and Jordy Nelson back then.
What I'm more curious about is at what point,
how many years into a 17-game schedule are we going to go
before you start telling us what the 17-game pace is?
Whenever Pro Football Reference changes their game log function.
But no, I think you want to see a year of 17 games
before I start going on 17-game paces.
Okay, so next year.
Yeah, I hope so.
The Ask Pro Football reference.
Christian McCaffrey back at practice.
You guys ranking him yet?
No.
It doesn't sound like he's definitely playing.
James Robinson day-to-day with a heel injury.
Is he going to be a must-start if he plays against the Bills?
Yes, but not a top-ten guy like he typically would be a must start if he plays against the Bills? Yes, but not a top
10 guy like he typically would be.
Odell Beckham, not with the team.
Jamie, what's your take on this situation?
If Odell Beckham is dropped in your league,
please pick him up because hopefully
he gets to a situation that's better than where he's
been.
You cannot plan to play him this week because
clearly the Browns are not planning to play him this week at this point. I also would pick up Jarvis Landry, whoever he's been. You cannot plan to play him this week because clearly the Browns are not planning to play him this
week at this point.
I also would pick up Jarvis Landry wherever he's
available because Landry has been very good
certainly the last six games without Beckham on the field
regular season-wise.
You want to have Landry on your team
and you want to have Beckham on your team, but if
for whatever reason Beckham plays this week, then I think they're
both hands off.
We'll see how he practices today,
but in deeper leagues,
go make sure that Donovan people's Jones is rostered.
He's been good in his last two games and Landry's had his own injury
problems lately.
So people's Jones could be somebody in the second half that makes a
difference.
Yeah.
And even one step further,
Rashard Higgins also,
you know,
he was okay last year too.
People's Jones is about 16% rostered.
Beckham right now
is 75% rostered.
And Landry is something
like 73% rostered
at the moment.
All right.
Would you rather have
Kadarius Toney
or Jarvis Landry?
They're rostered
in about the same
amount of leagues.
Landry.
Landry.
Okay.
Kyler Murray
and DeAndre Hopkins
have not practiced thus far.
Only one.
Well, actually, they had the Thursday night game,
so they had more time to recover, but still don't know.
It's early in the week.
But A.J. Green is on the reserve COVID list.
So should we be looking?
Should we certainly be having Christian Kirk on our rosters right now?
It's not a bad move to make.
Obviously, you need Kyler out there.
I'm not trusting him if Kyler doesn't play.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, it sounds like from the quotes from Kyler,
he's going to make every, and Kingsbury,
he's going to make every effort to play.
But I think even if he does, you have to be concerned
just because of what he's been lately
when he's been banged up, what he was
in his last game against San Francisco.
You can't count on any, like we talked about a couple nights ago, Adam, you need three
touchdowns probably for Kyler Murray to be a starting fantasy quarterback right now.
I just made a trade in my keep, one of my keeper leagues, which I'm, I'm really, I don't
know.
I'm curious to see how it's going to play out.
I could keep DeAndre Hopkins forever as a 11th round pick, essentially.
And I have a team that can win now.
Four and four, but had some bad luck.
I think like top three in points.
So I traded Hopkins for Stephon Diggs because I didn't want to miss out on having a chance to win.
And so I can't keep Diggs, but I traded Hopkins. And I just wonder, like, my thought process was what we saw last year.
You know, when Murray got hurt, Hopkins had really only two good games
after the Buffalo game.
And so I was like, I don't want to miss out on a chance of winning now
to keep Hopkins and if he's going to start to fall off a cliff.
So we'll see how it plays out if I ruin my long-term scenario
as opposed to getting a short-term game.
You traded Hopkins for Diggs?
I traded Hopkins as a keeper.
For Diggs as a non-keeper?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
11th round keeper, too.
All right.
Go for it, Jamie.
Way to go.
By the way.
Yeah, you keep four guys.
I have good keepers otherwise,
but it was more of the scenario of going for it this year.
I got to tell you,
the biggest mistake I've made in fantasy all year
was not making it so that the
points leader is automatically in the playoffs.
I don't know
that in the two leagues that I'm the commissioner in
that I ever actually said what the playoff rules
were. So I'm
thinking maybe I just said that out loud. Hey, by
the way, points leader gets in
i'm assuming in the podcast league that you have a 500 or worse record but a lot of points scored
i don't think i have a lot of point i am 500 this it wouldn't benefit me i'm the mcafree manager
so it's just oh yeah okay you know um but no you're on a feed in that league right so
what's that no he's not in that league didn't you lose oh i did not, you're on a seat in that league, right? So what's that? No, he's not.
Didn't you lose?
Oh,
I did not.
Oh,
you're right.
No.
Uh,
yes.
Thanks for jinxing it on the show.
Appreciate it guys.
Well,
I mean,
I'm seven to one,
so I want you to lose.
All right.
Uh,
let's see.
Uh,
so Saquon Barkley is on the reserve COVID list.
Kenny Galladay is questionable.
So it looks like another Devanteae Booker week. No Sterling
Shepard for the Giants. He's a good start.
Devontae Booker, yeah. I mean, the Raiders
have been horrible against the run.
And Michael Thomas is out for the season.
I think what we said at the beginning of
yesterday's show, it pretty much holds. We didn't
know he was out for the season at the time, but we
approached it like he would be out for a while.
And I have not checked
Taysom Hill's roster percentage.
Let's take a guess.
Over or under 50%?
Over.
I think he's like into 70%.
I was shocked.
No, Jamie.
No?
40.
42.
Wow, that's it?
Yeah.
I was shocked.
There were leagues, like legitimately,
one league I bid 15% of my fab
to try to get Taysom Hill just for this week
because I'm undefeated in that league,
and I didn't want to give up my undefeatedness.
And I lost out to somebody who bid 30%.
In a different league, I had dropped my backup quarterback.
What's that?
That's a 1QB league?
Yeah.
30% for Taysom Hill.
But in a different league, I had to replace Aaron Rodgers this morning,
and I went and looked.
No one had picked Taysom Hill up off waivers.
He was a free agent.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's a wide range of league opinions on Taysom Hill.
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One question this week
is which Broncos
running back
or wide receiver
will score the most
half PPR fantasy points
at Dallas?
I love that question.
That's a good one.
Who do you guys think
which Broncos
running back or receiver
scores the most
half PPR fantasy points
this week?
I hope it's Sutton.
I'm going to guess he's probably the most started of those guys.
Yep.
Okay.
Well, seems like in that scenario, you love Cortland Sutton.
So let's go to the players we love this week.
Jamie, start of the week.
I do not love Cortland Sutton this week, but I think he's the best Broncos player.
Yeah.
The start of the week is Myles Gaskin.
Obviously, he's been a bust so far this year,
but we've seen now in the two games where Malcolm Brown has been injured,
he's had at least 15 total touches in both of those,
and he's got four games this season with at least 15 total touches.
He's been 17 or more PPR points in those two games,
in two of those four games, excuse me.
So I'm hoping he's going to get work.
I think that's been the case, again, without Brown,
so hopefully that'll be the case again.
The Texans obviously have been bad.
They've allowed a touchdown to a running back
in six of eight games this season.
And so it's a good setup for, you know,
Miles Gaskin in a game the Dolphins could actually win.
So hopefully he continues to get the carries,
continues to work in the passing game,
and I think he actually has top 10 upside in PPR this week.
Okay, have you heard about the weird 14-carry
thing against the Texans?
No. I'm sure I'll love it, though.
Well, yeah, you haven't heard about it because I just
discovered it, but there have been five
running backs in their last five games who have
had exactly 14 carries.
Okay. And four of them scored.
Nice. Moss, Singletary,
Damian Harris, Taylor, and Henderson.
Singletary is the only one who didn't
score uh so Gaskin's been at 15 and 12 carries if he gets 14 carries Jamie he's gonna have a great
game but it has to be exactly 14 exactly 14 Heath who do you love I'm I feel uncomfortable saying
this but um I'm just gonna say it's Devante Booker. This is one of those guys where I had to move him down in the rankings
from where the projections actually had him
because I had him as a top 10 back in full PPR this week in the projections.
And I really was trying to figure out why.
And you look, and since week five, he's the number 13 running back in fantasy.
He has no games in single-digit fantasy points in his last four. He has a 17
and a 22, I believe,
in those four games. I think
Sterling Shepard being out is really
going to help his target share, and he has at least
four targets in three of his past four games.
So I do think this is
another game where Daniel Jones is probably dumping it off
quick. Booker should catch three or four
passes and probably get into the end zone, and
it's a revenge game.
That's true. And the Raiders have one of the best
pass rushes in the NFL.
And Booker or Gaskin?
Gaskin for me, but I like
both. I have Booker
higher, but both of them are
surefire starts for me.
Alright, who is a surefire
sit, Heath?
Oh, man.
This week has been so just absolutely mind-boggling.
A surefire sit.
That's good filibustering until you find a guy.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I can tell a story if you'd like.
I don't know if surefire is the right word,
but I'm continuing to stay away from Jerry
Judy this week um the the first it helps a little bit that there's a possibility Noah Fant won't be
out but Albert O has been pretty good I think he's probably going to get a pretty big chunk
of fans targets he had a pretty big chunk of fans targets last week they're going to throw to their
running backs quite a bit it's still a mix between Sutton, Patrick
and Judy. It's just too
many mouths to feed right now in Denver.
In an offense that's not very good.
Okay. Jerry Judy at Dallas and last
week mentioned it. He was not fully
healthy and Vic Fangio
said that. His ankle was starting to bother him late
in the game, so it's a little hard to have
a ton of faith in Jerry Judy. Dallas
that game we are previewing today. Dallas does give up a lot of fantasy points to wide receivers, so we'll get into it a little hard to have a ton of faith in Jerry Judy. That game we are previewing today,
Dallas does give up a lot of fantasy points
to wide receivers, so we'll get into it a little bit later.
Jamie, who are you avoiding?
I'll save you your rankings dispute.
Mike Davis for me. Just looking
at this Saints defense, he's not
going to have any success running on them.
He'll probably get his 3-5
catches, but I just don't think he's
clearly very explosive in that role.
So I really want no part of Mike Davis if I can avoid it.
Like, I'm in a 24-team league, and I'm not starting Mike Davis.
Who are you starting?
I'm starting Daryl Williams and Boston Scott over Mike Davis.
See, I feel like I'm not disagreeing,
but could you not also put Daryl Williams on that list?
How do you feel about Daryl Williams this week?
Oh, I like Daryl Williams a lot.
You do?
Yeah, I mean, 19 touches last week.
He's going to be involved in the passing game.
I think this Packers defense is going to get exposed a little bit
without Aaron Rodgers there because they're going to be on the field a lot.
So, you know, their injuries, I think, will show up.
It's not that they're a bad defense, but they've been really beat up,
and he covers up a lot of their flaws by how much they hold the ball.
I don't think they're going to have that much success holding the ball so i'm still very very very comfortable with
their way do you believe the chiefs were favored to start the week well you give them home field
and home field's typically three points so they were half point favorite i think or one point
favorite um they should be favored at home not against the packers i don't think i man they
they should they could have lost to the Giants last week.
You're still playing in Arrowhead.
You give them...
Whatever.
All right.
Well, they are now much bigger favorites.
They were favorites to start.
Then they were underdogs.
Then the Rodgers news broke.
And now they're favorites again.
And that's my question with Darrell Williams.
Is it good for him
if the packers don't score very many points and the chiefs are running the ball a lot in the second
half i don't think he's coming off the field completely it looked like they so it looked
like last week he was alternating possessions with gore but since you guys watch the manning
cast and not the broadcast,
I'm the only one who watches the regular broadcast anymore.
Andy Reid trusts Williams in pass protection.
That's his only issue with Gore
is he knows Williams is better in pass protection.
So when you get those two-minute drills,
or if they're trailing,
which I don't think they will be in this game,
but you never know,
you're going to see more of Williams.
So I think that's kind of what you're trying to say, right, Heath?
Well, and I think the saving grace for Williams, and I don't know this,
I think if they got inside the five-yard line, probably it would be Williams.
But yeah, what I'm trying to say is if they're going to run it 25 times and Gore and Darrell Williams both get 12 carries,
that's probably 40 yards for Daryl Williams.
It's also, I don't think they're just going to run away
with this game in the first quarter and then it's over.
I mean, this is still going to be a competitive game
based on how the Chiefs have played.
Like you said, Adam,
they nearly lost to Daniel Jones at home.
They struggled against the Titans.
They've played down to their competition, clearly.
And so this is still a very good Packers team.
I don't want to, you know, disparage their defense by any stretch.
I just think they're beat up.
And so, you know, some of the flaws that I think that they might have
might get exposed in this game a little bit.
But the Chiefs are not going to run, you know,
even though the point spread has jumped,
I don't think the Packers still cover.
You know, it's still one of those games where they'll hang around.
Matt LaFleur is a great coach. The run game is still really good for the
Packers, and Jordan Love is not going to, I think,
throw up all over himself if he has Devontae Adams.
I do think
betting against the Chiefs' covering
has been maybe the best bet
in the last two years in all of football.
Even when they were awesome last year,
they didn't cover.
We love Miles Gaskin,
Devontae Booker. Heath's avoiding Jerry Judy. Jamie's avoiding Mike were awesome last year they didn't cover all right so uh we love miles gaskin davante booker
he's avoiding jerry judy jamie's avoiding mike davis he's a little more optimistic on mike
davis strictly in ppr because he has 11 targets in two games without calvin ridley that's a stat
that he gave me before the show today so i'm just going to skip that ranking dispute jamie's not
feeling davis heath is only thinking about him as a number two running back in full PPR. Just got
to save some time here, but can't
escape. I heard a couple of good dad
jokes yesterday. Jamie, I want to run them by you,
okay? Okay. Did you hear about the guy
who tried to eat the clock?
No. He couldn't finish.
It was time consuming.
And Chris from Denver,
one of our listeners, wrote in, do you know what really
makes my day?
The rotation of the earth.
Very literal.
It's good, yeah.
Okay, thank you for the dad jokes.
Schedule alert!
Just noticed, Marquise Brown,
next six matchups are all against teams that rank 22nd or worse against wide receivers.
His next three matchups are against teams that rank 27th or worse.
So amazing schedule coming up for Marquise Brown.
You're starting him anyway, but you can smile.
F in the chat for the jokes.
What?
An F?
Oh, wait.
Oh, that was from Schrager?
Well, that's because he's not a dad.
He doesn't know yet.
Those are really funny for us.
Some more news and notes.
Prescott, Cooper, and Lamb were all limited.
I'm sure as of now, we are expecting them to play.
But Tyron Smith likely out this week against Denver.
Cole Beasley mispracticed with injured ribs,
and Dawson Knox did not practice.
Knox would be more of a concern at the moment.
Chargers at Philly.
Big game for fantasy purposes.
Michael Davis and Asante Samuel, two cornerbacks.
They may not play, and linebacker Kenneth Murray
is going to practice this week, but he may not play.
So Murray's been out for a bit,
but Davis and Samuel got hurt last week.
Another Samuel, Debo, mispracticed,
but he is expected to play. Eli Mitchell, though,, mispracticed, but he is expected to play.
Eli Mitchell, though, he mispracticed with injured ribs.
It's kind of vague.
I don't know that we know so much about this,
but should we not have Jermichael Hasty on our radar right now?
I'd be picking up Jeff Wilson first
because even if it's a short-term situation,
Wilson apparently looked really good in practice yesterday.
So if this is something that Mitchell misses,
maybe not just this week if he's out,
but if he missed a significant time.
We had this conversation.
I didn't really understand Dave's buy low on Elijah Mitchell.
I don't know if you guys talked about this yesterday
with the trade conversation,
but he brought that up as a buy low guy.
To me, Mitchell's as obvious a sell high candidate
as you can find.
Because if Wilson comes back,
you want to maximize your ability to trade Elijah Mitchell right now.
If it becomes a timeshare,
you're in trouble of getting the maximum value that you can.
I know Dave does not think that he's going to lose the job.
I think Dave feels like Mitchell has the job.
Oh, he's the one, but we know what this team has been.
I mean, there's a history of Raheem Mostert being very good,
but sharing time.
I think they've tried a little bit to get away from that
with Mostert specifically, and now with Mitchell.
But I didn't think Wilson had a chance to play this week.
That's why I brought up Hasty.
I know that he's eligible to,
but I didn't think it was really within the timeline. I don't disagree
with you. I think if we find out
come Friday that Elijah Mitchell doesn't
practice and you want to get ahead of it, Michael Hasty's probably
the guy, but I would imagine they used Trey Sermon too.
Right. Okay. Taysom Hill
practiced. Julio Jones was at practice.
That's great. Hope he gets out there on Sunday
night at the Rams. Darren Waller
practiced. We're expecting him to play. Calvin
Ridley's still away from the team.
Matthew Stafford missed practice.
Probably not a big deal.
Hopefully the same with Justin Herbert.
He has a hand injury.
And Robert Woods missed practice.
So Wednesday practice reports
aren't really super helpful.
So we'll keep you updated throughout the week.
Rankings disputes.
Only have two of them right now.
So let's get into it.
62nd rankings disputes.
First one is Kirk Cousins.
14th for Jamie.
7th for Heath.
He's at Baltimore.
Heath coming off that bad game.
You are going right back to Kirk Cousins.
Yeah, and this is one where I probably
may want to move him down
just for personal opinion.
But the cause of this ranking
is just the fact that they are
letting Kirk cook.
He's thrown at least 32 passes in every game this season.
The Baltimore pass defense did not look very good the last time that we saw them.
And I think Cousins probably throws for 300 yards.
All right. Jamie?
I hope so.
I think if you have Cousins, the only quarterbacks I would be pivoting to,
because I think there's a higher ceiling this week, would be Tua and Taysom Hill,
just based on Taysom's running and Tua's matchup.
We've seen what Tua's looked like in his good matchups.
But in terms of Cousins and the Ravens' defense, like he said, the last time we saw them, they didn't look good.
The game before that, they looked great.
And you just wonder if the rest and taking advantage and taking some time to, you know,
I think work on their game plan for this matchup, knowing that they're coming off a tough loss against the Bengals.
And I don't think wanting to lose against the Vikings.
We've seen Kirk Cousins struggle more lately.
You know, the beginning of the season was great.
And then, you know, three of his last four, he's been mediocre.
And I just wonder if he's, and if you look at just their games,
they've played really poorly against good teams.
And he's played poorly against good teams.
And I think this is a good team still.
So I'm nervous about Cousins, but I think he's still,
like he said,
I think he gave,
you know,
this could be like a 300,
two and two game for him.
But I would say he's going to finish behind guys like Wentz and Derek Carr
and Tua and Taysom Hill if he'll start.
Wentz.
Okay.
So that's Cousins.
And,
you know,
one thing they're not really getting that I didn't realize,
you know,
I don't know if it felt this way to you, but it just kind of felt like Justin Jefferson was not having this splash,
splashy year.
Hardly any highlights, hardly any moments where we're going,
whoa, Justin Jefferson.
And you look at his big plays and he's really making a lot fewer than he did
last year.
So that's kind of missing from the offense right now.
And they were so conservative
last week.
Well, it hasn't been the case all season, but last week
they did not throw the ball downfield
basically at all.
Another rankings dispute is Boston
Scott.
Heath, the high guy on... Nope.
Heath, the low guy on Scott. Sorry.
Not in your top 30
against the Chargers. Jamie's got him 22nd in non-PPR, 20th in PPR.
All right, Heath.
Boston Scott.
I'm just scared of the Eagles.
Like, Miles Sanders was averaging 9.5 rush attempts per game
and had not scored a touchdown.
And I know they got right last week against the Lions,
but it's the Lions.
I think the Eagles are probably going to be playing from behind in this game.
And I don't know if Boston Scott is going to have 50% of the running back touches
or 40% of the running back touches or 30% of the running back touches.
And so it's more uncertainty about how much the Eagles will run the ball
and how many of those carries will actually go to Boston Scott?
I think the thing that we've seen the last two weeks,
coming off of the Tampa Bay game for the Eagles,
is Nick Sirianni wanting to run the ball more.
I don't know what would have happened in the Raiders game
when Sanders got hurt, but at least you saw an early commitment to the run.
And then you certainly saw it in the Lions game.
I think, you know, and I'm with Heath.
You know, this is a little bit of, you know, I think like he's taking more of
I don't want to trust it, and I'm going to guess probably more with blind hope
of that if the game is competitive, we don't see the 12 carries for Jordan Howard.
We see probably closer to, you know to 12 to 15 carries for Boston Scott
and certainly more work in the passing game.
Obviously, the running backs do not factor in the passing game at all,
which I think you should consider, Ken.
Game, well, if you're thinking about dropping him,
I'd probably hold him for one more game if you can.
But I think from what we'll get from Scott is he's going to be the lead runner.
He's going to be involved in the passing game.
I still don't buy it.
I know, Adam, you brought this up on the Tuesday show about the Chargers feeling more comfortable with their run defense, with getting guys healthy.
But I still don't trust that they're going to keep everybody contained and in front of them and what this team does.
I also don't necessarily agree with fully.
I think they could be chasing points, but I don't think that the Chargers, based on how their offense has looked, that they're running away with this game
and that the Eagles can't run the ball.
So I think this is going to be a competitive game.
Scott will be involved.
Based on what we saw last week,
first game without Miles Sanders,
I still trust him enough as a number two running back.
I was just looking, and this is funny,
I think I have nine Eagles, Ravens, and Texans running backs within 15 spots of each other.
Just because I...
Especially the Ravens and the Eagles.
I mean, Texans are different. They're worse because they're just really bad.
The Ravens and Eagles situation seems really similar to me. Yeah. And actually it's funny with those two opponents that they're like the
Ravens facing the Vikings and,
uh,
chargers going up against the Eagles,
the chargers and the,
and the Vikings are both perhaps looking a little bit better against the
run because of big time players coming back for them,
which I did mention on Tuesday for the Vikings,
it's Anthony bar.
And for the chargers, it's defensive tackle Justin Jones,
who's played basically one game,
and they had their best performance against the run.
Not enough.
Not enough to say, okay, they're good against the run.
They've been horrible.
And to piggyback off your 14-carry Texan stat,
there have been 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 running backs
with at least nine carries against the Chargers.
And all but one have scored a touchdown.
The one was Ramondre Stevenson last week.
Okay, so let's take a quick break here.
Eight carries.
Everybody with nine carries has scored a touchdown.
Wow.
Wow.
That's awesome.
I should have seen that.
Well, I didn't preview that game yet.
I didn't get into my notes for that game yet.
That's tomorrow.
That'll be the stat of the game.
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Green Bay at Kansas City was supposed to be the game of the week.
Stat of the game number one.
Tyreek Hill does not have a 20-yard reception since week four.
Wow. one Tyreek Hill does not have a 20 yard reception since week four wow that is amazing but having watched most of all of those games that checks out also I this might be wrong but I think not
per game but just total fantasy points Tyreek Hill is the number one wide receiver since week four.
He might be.
I mean, what, did he have 18 targets last week?
So, yeah, you start him.
I show here that he has 125.1 since week four,
and Cup has 123.7.
Interesting.
Amazing.
Okay, stat of the game number two.
Somehow, the Chiefs are once again doing this crap
where they're kind of good against wide receivers.
And we're like, how are they so good against wide receivers?
The last four games, you've seen Diggs with 69 yards,
no touchdowns.
McLaurin, Julio Jones, Shepard and Tony,
all less than 40 yards no touchdowns
you have seen Emmanuel Sanders and AJ Brown
have big games there but
I guess my point is for Adams
I don't know that it's the best matchup
because we've seen under Spagnuolo
they're surprisingly good against wide receivers
and right now they're like 14th or something
in fantasy points allowed to receivers
and they've been kind of solid lately
so we already talked about Adams.
I know you guys have him around 12th,
but I just wanted to throw that out there maybe
for a DFS angle or something.
So, yeah, let's...
Oh, you can't play him in DFS.
No, no, for sure.
Right, you don't think like the contrarian...
No, it's a 4 o'clock game, right?
Or 4.30?
He just became a great contrarian play.
Yeah.
Sunday night is Rams.
Yeah, right, right.
Titans.
Don't start Jordan Love.
If you want to know
a little bit about Jordan Love,
he threw seven passes
in week one.
There you go.
I watched them all.
It didn't take long.
Most of them were downfield.
They were losing by,
I don't know,
maybe 30 points.
He didn't check down,
but it's hard to know
his tendencies.
Wasn't much of a rusher in college,
like 170 rushing yards.
Hasn't been a huge part of his game.
Anyway, Aaron Jones, A.J. Dillon, Heath,
what do you think about them?
Well, I think the interesting thing is,
let's assume Adams is back, because we are.
If Adams is back,
how much do we see Aaron Jones playing wide receiver and how much do we see
a split at running back that we saw last week?
Was that all because Adams was there?
Because I think it might be better for their offense if they just do that
more and throw it to Jones more and run Dylan a little more than they have
been.
I'm starting Aaron Jones pretty much without reservation as a borderline number one running
back.
And AJ Dillon is a, a good flex.
Like, I think if you don't like Boston Scott or a Ravens running back or Mike Davis, if
you don't like him, then you start AJ Dillon over those kinds of guys, the guys you don't
really want to start.
Yeah.
Okay.
Would you start? Well, I'm not sure. I must've, the guys you don't really want to start. Yeah. Okay. Would you start?
Well, I'm not sure.
I must have missed the names you said.
Would you start A.J. Dillon
over a Ravens running back?
Did you say that?
I'm sorry.
I would start him over
all the Ravens running backs.
Okay.
Adams is the only wide receiver
we want from the Packers.
Jamie, how about Josiah DeGuara
against the Chiefs
who are just so bad against tight ends?
Any interest at all?
Well, if I was Jordan Love, I'd just be looking for wherever Daniel Sorensen is.
Right.
I'd throw there.
It could be DeGuara.
It could be Mercedes Lewis.
You know, that's just the nature of how this Packers offense, I think, is going to go.
Like, DeGuara will probably be the guy between the 20s.
The red zone threat will probably be Mercedes Lewis.
You'll hate yourself for starting either one.
So tight end premium leagues,
maybe you take a shot on one of those two guys,
but I would try to avoid it.
Or DFS punt plays.
Like if you want to just have a minimum price tight end
and pay up everywhere else.
All right, Patrick Mahomes.
Actually, last I checked, he was eighth for Jamie.
Is he still eighth?
No, he's five.
Five, okay.
So he's top five for everybody. So look, in his last I checked, he was eighth for Jamie. Is he still eighth? No, he's five. Five, okay. So he's top five for everybody.
So look, in his last four games,
he's completing 62% of his passes,
6.25 yards per attempt.
That's terrible.
He's on pace in those games.
This is definitely a typo.
I put 6,600 yards.
I think it's 3,000. Maybe it's 4,600.
20 touchdowns, 24
interceptions, though.
You guys have him top five.
You wouldn't start, say,
Jalen Hurts over him?
I originally was
there before the Packers news.
Like I said, I think they're going to have the ball a lot more.
The defense for the Packers will be tired.
So I have more faith in Mahomes
in this regard.
You said that was his last
four games when he's been so bad?
And he has been.
I'm not trying to dispute that at all.
I was just going to look and see
is he still a top 12?
Because he's number five, I think, at quarterback
for the season on a per-game basis. I don't think he's going to be top 12? Because he's number five, I think, at quarterback for the season on a per-game basis.
I don't think he's going to be top 12.
Because he's been...
In those four games.
He's been running quite a bit more.
He has like 100...
He's 13th.
Ha!
He has like 120 more rushing yards
than Kyler Murray this year.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's...
He runs for 30 yards almost every week.
And he throws a lot too.
You know,
it's look,
it's only a matter of time.
Come on,
let's get it going.
Mahomes,
um,
green Bay has allowed only nine touchdown passes in their last seven
games,
but they've just had such an easy schedule.
And even last week they play Kyler Murray and Deandre Hopkins barely
plays.
So the only,
I'd say top 12 quarterbacks to face Green Bay
are Murray, who struggled, and Burrow, who had 22 fantasy points.
Okay, Kansas City running backs.
Gore or Dillon?
Who's a better flyer, Gore or Dillon, this week?
Dillon.
Dillon.
I don't want to trust Gore yet.
Okay.
And so you guys have Darrell Williams all around 20th to 23rd depending on the format
and hopefully he's still involved in the passing game but we talked about him a little bit earlier
in the show we can compare him to some other running backs a little bit later and i think
one thing we can try to do if i can't commit to this but i'll give it a shot if you're watching
right now on youtube if you have any questions about players from the specific game we're talking
about throw them up
in the chat and I'll see if we can
do it. Why don't we start with our next game because we're pretty much
done with this. Start Tyreek Hill.
Start Travis Kelsey.
Any interest in me, Cole Hardman?
No.
I don't hate him as
a flex.
I just
saw the Chiefs defense
ranking and so before you say
it I want to say that I have not updated my
defense rankings I don't want you to ruin the
Chiefs defense this week I've
not updated my Chiefs defense
rankings yet they will
be
12
okay and they're 13th for Jamie and 12th for Dave.
I got to figure out, it was hard for me to figure out the defense that Heath was too low on,
that he really isn't too low on.
But I'm going to go with the Saints.
You have them 11th, so I'm just throwing that out there.
Saints DST against Atlanta.
You're too low on them at 11.
I also fear you guys are all too high on the Dolphins if Terod Taylor plays.
I don't know if you'd move them down.
We're ranking them
as if he's not playing.
Then you're not too high on them, probably.
Do you play
Terod? Yeah.
Why?
Because teams want to win.
They want to win and they've seen a lot
of Davis Mills. They don't want to win. They're not going to win. You know, they want to win, and they've seen a lot of Davis Mills, so...
They don't want to win.
They're not going to win.
Their winning right now is counterproductive.
Right, so it doesn't even matter.
Wait, they don't have their first-round picker now?
Yeah, they do.
They do, they do.
All right, by the way,
Kelsey, still your number one tight end?
Yes.
Okay. And the hope for texans fans would be they have the three eagles first round picks next year too okay houston is at miami our second game here i have some news for
you if you like it odell beckham not with the team jamie i know thank you for reminding me to say it
though i would not have done that.
All right, so if you have any Houston-Miami questions,
let's see if we can make this work.
Try them out in the chat.
Okay, Houston and Miami.
Stat of the game, other than the 14-carry thing.
How about the Dolphins?
They have allowed 16 or more PPR fantasy points
to a wide receiver in seven of eight games.
They also have allowed the most 20-plus yard pass plays in the NFL.
Is Brandon Cooks a slam dunk with Davis Mills?
I wouldn't use the word slam dunk,
but I would say you're starting him.
Yep.
Okay.
So I think you guys have him in your top 20, though, now.
Yeah.
Who's the best wide receiver in this game?
Parker.
I have Cooks the highest, but they are all really pretty close.
Yeah.
That's why this is a fun game because you're going to have Waddle.
Who are maybe some big names that you have the wide receivers in this game ahead of?
Both Broncos.
How about Mike Williams,s slumping mike williams
uh i do have in ppr both parker and waddle ahead of mike williams and cooks cooks is right behind
um this is going to just seem ridiculous but i going to say it anyway. Projections-wise, currently I have all three wide receivers ahead of Hopkins.
But do you have them projected ahead of Devontae Adams?
No.
Okay.
Parker or Cordero Patterson, half PPR?
Patterson.
Patterson.
This is good, yeah.
All right, Schrager, you see any questions in the chat?
You fire them up there. This is good, yeah. All right, so Schrager, you see any questions in the chat, you fire them up there.
That's good stuff.
Okay, so Tua.
Oh, Texans running backs.
Jamie, sum up the Texans running backs real quick.
Good luck.
I mean, I would hope that David Johnson is the best of the group,
but there should be no faith in any of them.
I guess if there is a silver lining, if you're hoping for something, Rex Burkhead was limited in practice or did not practice.
I don't know which one it was on Wednesday with a hip injury.
So if he's out, then there's probably a little bit more clarity between David Johnson and Phillip Lindsay getting work.
But I have no clue what
they're going to do. I do not want to trust them. Um, it's not, it's not a bad idea if you want to,
if you're stuck in a flex spot to hope that David Johnson gets back to leading them in touches, but
uh, again, no, no semblance of trust in any of them. Okay. So to the dolphins and to,
I saw a question in the chat. We'll go to Mike Kosicki real quick. Kosicki or Pitts?
Kosicki is my number two tight end
in PPR. I think number four in non-PPR.
Texans are terrible against tight ends. Third most points
allowed. Yes, and he was great up until
facing a great defense in Buffalo.
Yeah. And he's faced
them twice, by the way. And he's faced New England, too.
Heath, Kosi or Pitts?
I have Pitts ahead right now,
but I don't really like it.
I'm a little scared about Pitts.
Okay.
So we talked about the Miami wide receivers.
Myles Gaskin is the start of the week.
We like him a lot.
Jamie, who's the best flex on the Dolphins?
Let's say in full PPR.
Is it Gaskin, Parker, Waddell?
I would rank them Gaskin, Gusecki, Parker
Waddle. Oh, okay.
And then let's talk about Tua here.
We have a quick question here from Manuel.
Gaskin,
Booker, or Carter? Non-PPR.
Ooh, yeah, Gaskin or Carter.
Gaskin, Booker, Carter,
non-PPR. Let's start with that.
Gaskin for me.
And non-PPR, I's start with that. Gaskin for me. And non-PPR,
I think I have
Carter. Okay, and
tonight, full PPR, Gaskin or Carter?
Gaskin.
Okay, great.
Tua, 83% rostered.
He is top 13 for everybody.
Here's my only
concern with Tua, right? In his four healthy
starts, he has thrown 27 passes against New England.
Bad game.
18 points.
47 at the Jaguars,
40 against Atlanta,
39 at Buffalo.
Do you think he throws enough in this game?
He hasn't shown yet that he can be great
without a high pass volume here.
Not that the Dolphins are so good or anything,
but do you think the pass attempts are there for him?
Yeah. here. Not that the Dolphins are so good or anything, but do you think the pass attempts are there for him? Yeah, I think they'll be
good enough.
I think he'll have enough
opportunities to be successful.
Okay, and you don't need to throw a ton against the Texans.
Only one quarterback has thrown more than
34 times against the Texans.
That was Lawrence in Week 1, the only game the Texans
won, and yet they still give up the
seventh most points to
quarterbacks. So to a tongue of Iloa or
Justin Herbert.
Herbert.
Herbert, but it's close. And keep an eye on Herbert's hand.
He mispracticed or limited on
Wednesday with a hand injury. Remember
the show Herman's Head? Yes.
Yeah, I do.
I'd forgotten about that show.
Yeah, crazy show.
It was kind of like the precursor to the
cartoon show
with all the emotions.
I don't know which one.
Oh, yes, you do.
It was really, really good
and made everybody cry.
Cartoon show?
Movie.
Cartoon movie? With. Cartoon movie?
With all the emotions?
Up?
Not up.
Is it Inside Out?
I never saw Inside Out.
I never saw that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Tua Tungabailoa or Taysom Hill?
Tua for me.
I would go Taysom
if he's
playing. Tua or
Wentz? Tua or Carr?
Tua for all those.
Tua over Carr.
I'm really struggling with Tua and Wentz,
but I think I'd lean Tua right now.
Okay, and that's it for this game. Dolphins
DST.
Stardom if Terod Taylor does not play.
Cleveland at Cincinnati.
Heath, who's a tough call in this game?
Cleveland and Cincinnati. Adam, did you know that Beckham did not practice on Thursday?
Excuse me.
I did know that, yeah.
He was excused, but he didn't ask for the excuse.
Do you think that, don't you think that his dad should have posted that before the trade deadline?
When I was going to school, back in my day, an excused absence was when you chose not to go to school and your parents sent a note in or you had a doctor's note and so it was excused.
You got to make up all your work.
This sounds more like a suspension.
I had one of those too.
Oh, what'd you do?
I'm not proud of it.
Okay.
Well, I'd love to know, but that's fine.
Back to this.
Sorry.
Heath, who are the tough calls of this Browns-Bengals game?
I think that Jarvis Landry could be a tough call
depending on who you have on your roster
because you may have just picked him up off of the waiver wire.
And so he's a borderline number two, number three type wide receiver.
He could be a tough call.
That's pretty much...
T. Higgins is right in that same range with Landry.
He's a bit of a tough call.
For Jarvis Landry, you should know,
the Bengals allow the 7th most receiving yards
to slot receivers.
They have not been very good against slot receivers.
K.J. Osborne, 76 yards.
Darnell Mooney, I don't know how much of his yards
came in the slot. He had a decent game.
Chenault had 99 yards.
Crowder had 84 yards last week.
That's good for Landry.
Would you start Landry or Higgins?
Landry.
I had them back-to-back, and you know what, Adam?
Your Acer stat is going
to push Landry over the top.
How about that? Remember the movie
Over the Top? That was a fantastic...
One of Stallone's best.
You must not have seen it since it came out in theaters.
Oh, I've seen it multiple times on my TV.
Appointment TV.
You don't like that one?
No, it's good.
Just to call it one of Stallone's best movies is blasphemy.
All right, let's go.
Top five Stallone movies.
They're all Rockies, basically.
They're all Rockies?
Rambo. all rockies basically uh they're all rockies rambo i rocky one rocky two
rambo demolition man i'm forgetting some i don't know creed i'm not really a huge creed fan
what yeah yeah, he hates...
Yeah, that makes sense.
Joe Burrow.
You would probably call Creed a buddy movie
as opposed to a boxing movie.
No, it's just not really a Stallone movie.
I would say that.
I mean, you know he was nominated
for Academy Award, right?
Who, Stallone?
Yep.
For Rocky?
No.
For Creed?
Yep.
For what?
Directing?
Best Supporting Actor.
Oh, Supporting...
I don't do Supporting Actors.
You don't get...
I'm not saying the best five
Stallone supporting movies.
So for this game here...
No, no.
Let's do Stallone movies.
Joe Burrow.
I'd love to.
Joe Burrow is top 12.
He's been on fire.
You're the host.
You can do what you want.
I'm the one who gets
the criticism here.
Three touchdown passes
in three straight games for
Burrow. Is this another great
game for him? Good game? What do you think? Browns
really not very good against quarterbacks.
Seventh most fantasy points allowed. He lit
them up last year, too, in two games, and he's obviously
playing a little bit better NFL-wise
than he was as a rookie. So
yeah, he's a must-start guy. Burrow
or Hurts we have from John in the chat.
I think Burrow is safer, but Hertz has a higher ceiling.
I would rather play Hertz.
Does Guardians of the Galaxy factor into the Stallone movies?
He was in that?
Yeah.
I was not aware of that.
Who is he?
I can't pronounce his name.
Is he Groot?
Starhawk.
Starhawk?
No.
I didn't know that
no he's in it no costume
oh I don't remember him in it
uh Mixon
like him love him this week
Browns have been damn good against the run
now Copland is a really good movie and he was
you know more of a dramatic role in that one
but he got a lot of praise for it
um I'm starting Mixon
okay like would you start Gaskin over mixing or michael
carter over mixing no all right and then there's a rocky he's not a rocky five he's in the top
four rockies that's what we should do there's your new scale okay go in cash oh tango cash is
definitely top five yes there, there you go.
You know I love it.
It's not Tango, it's Cash.
So T. Higgins, I'm assuming we're sitting Tyler Boyd,
even though he had a touchdown last week?
I would like to. He's more Rambo 2 or 3.
So, all right, how about Higgins?
Let's talk a little bit more about him.
97 yards, only six targets last week.
First game with more than 62 yards all season.
He hasn't caught a touchdown since week two.
Targets have been pretty up and down for him.
Yeah, I don't know.
And his catch rate's really low.
His catch rate is 163rd,
so they just haven't really been on the same page.
59.2% catch rate for Higgins.
He and Rocky III.
Right, which is like you'll watch it,
but you're not excited to watch it, really.
You'd rather watch Rocky IV.
Yeah, Higgins.
I guess I'll give you some flex options
here. Higgins
or Daryl Williams?
Higgins.
Higgins in PPR, Daryl Williams inins. Higgins in PPR,
Darryl Williams in none.
Higgins or Boston Scott?
Higgins.
Same setup.
Khalil Herbert at Pittsburgh
or Higgins against the Bengals?
Against the Browns?
Herbert.
Yeah.
Khalil Herbert ran for 100 yards
against Tampa Bay.
Don't tell me who he's playing.
I'm telling everyone else.
Higgins is, by the way,
he's like a top 30 receiver,
close to 24.
Okay.
And CJ Uzama, start or sit?
He is Rocky V personified.
Yeah.
He's awful and will never be anywhere
near my television?
No, he is, if you catch it,
you'll say,
why was this movie so bad? and you watch it for a little
bit and hope that something good happens but sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't okay
so cincinnati or maybe he's he's uh was it balboa was the name of the sixth one yeah something like
that he's balboa yeah he is my favorite tight end in this game. He can't be Balboa because I've actually seen CJ Uzama.
So.
You never saw Balboa?
No.
Can we stop with this, please?
No.
You can't call yourself a Stallone fan if you've never seen all the Rocky movies.
Never really called myself a Stallone fan.
Bengals or Browns DST?
Bengals.
Oh, they're back to back for Heath.
Yeah.
Yeah. Definitely. You got a strong lean towards
the bingles right now which kicker do you like in this game heath the uh the bingles
all right chicago's at pittsburgh and you name both kickers in this game
evan mcpherson chase mclaughlin there you go yeah nice okay chicago, Chicago at Pittsburgh. Stat of the game number one.
These two teams have thrown 12 touchdown passes this season.
Sorry.
Stat of the game number two.
The Bears are terrible against wide receivers.
They've given up the second most points to wide receivers,
12th fewest targets.
They've seen the 12th fewest wide receiver targets,
but the sixth most receiving yards to receivers and the 2nd most
yards per catch and the 2nd most
touchdowns per game to wide
receivers. So, Chase Claypool,
start or sit, Jamie?
He's another
Rocky III. I
hope he comes through,
but I don't have a lot of faith. I thought he was
going to play great last week, and he was let down.
I think the idea and the hope of, um, Juju not being there, making
things great for him.
It's hard to see that coming with what Pat Fryer Muth has been in terms of targets and
what Najee Harris is in terms of targets.
So I think you just know Claypool is who he is because Roethlisberger is just going to
be the same type of guy.
So number three receiver, more of a FOMO guy than a must-play guy.
Question from Bart. Claypool or Sutton?
Sutton.
I just realized this, and I don't think I had it.
Does somebody major die in every Rocky?
No.
Not in the first or the second one.
Apollo dies in the first one.
Apollo dies in the first one.
That would have really changed the franchise
if that were true.
Yes, the fourth one.
The second one is where...
The second one where Adrian dies?
No, she doesn't die.
Rocky fights apparently the ghost of Apollo.
Did you know what he did about Apollo. She definitely does not die.
Mickey dies in the third one.
Apollo dies in the fourth one.
Nobody dies in the first two.
I think somebody dies in Rocky 2.
The Rocky franchise dies in the fifth one.
No, Rocky 2 is when Adrian goes into a coma when she has the baby.
Yeah.
Okay, so anything else in this game?
Najee Harris must start.
That's the only thing. Rocky 3,
when Mickey dies, that really gets me.
Oh, it's horrible.
You said I never fought.
Sit the passing game
for the Bears.
Khalil Herbert.
I mean, who do you think he fought in Rocky 2?
Come on, man.
Trying to do a lot of things right now.
Why do you think he fought Drago?
Right, exactly.
Because he killed Apollo.
He killed Apollo three movies ago.
When he was two.
Maybe Drago killed Apollo.
Okay, Khalil Herbert.
Obviously, we're starting Najee Harris and Deontay
Johnson. We'll talk about Frymuth in a second.
Khalil Herbert, Miles Gaskin, who you got?
Herbert.
Miles Gaskin.
Honestly, you killing
Adrian in Rocky 2 is even worse than you killing
apollo and rocky 1 that is incredible what happens when i try to have these conversations i should
just always be quiet whenever we talk about anything from movies that is so i will do that
from now on khalil herbert is a top 20 running back he's actually top 16 for jamie and heath
um 18 or more carries in four straight games so it was a great tie-in when
rambo killed the ball.
Khalil Herbert or Elijah Mitchell?
Mitchell, non-PPR.
Herbert, PPR.
Yeah.
Okay.
No interest in Robinson and Mooney, right?
Or Komet?
None.
Okay.
So Pat Fryermuth.
Somebody asked in our chat, Fryermuth or Higby?
Who would you go with?
Fryermuth. It's a tough matchup Fryermuth or Higby, who would you go with? Fryermuth.
It's a tough matchup.
The Bears have been really good against tight ends,
but you got to hope that he's still going to get in the seven target range,
which is what he's got, the two full games without Juju.
So hopefully that's the case.
I don't think he's a great non-PPR start, but in PPR I think he's okay.
Deontay Johnson or Joe Vickson?
Joseph says, these Russian hitmen are getting younger and younger
that's awesome
Deontay Johnson or
Joe Mixon
Mixon
why would you have to sit one of these guys
yeah I don't know the ghost of Apollo was
killed by Drago thank you
Jay Cutler.
Great comedy.
All right, next game.
Pittsburgh DST, by the way, is top four.
Minnesota at Baltimore.
Stat of the game.
Tyson Williams rushed for 65 yards in week one.
77.
You don't want to talk Justin Fields after his best game?
I thought we did.
We're not starting him, right?
He's okay in two QB leagues.
Well, okay.
Most are. Tyson Williams rushed for 65 yards in week one 77 yards in week two since then the leading rusher for the ravens has not run for more
than 59 yards and in three games since then they've rushed for fewer than 30 yards the leading
running back for the ravens but they have scored eight rushing touchdowns in seven games.
So you're hoping for a touchdown.
Okay, we talked about Kirk Cousins.
You want to hear about Kirk Cousins? Ranking dispute earlier.
Jamie's got Cousins 14th.
Heath has him 8th, I believe.
And
Cook is a must start. Are Thielen and Jefferson
must starts for you guys?
100%.
Okay. Conklin or Friarmuth? Cook is a must start. Are Thielen and Jefferson must starts for you guys? A hundred percent. Yep.
Okay.
Conklin or Fryermuth?
Fryermuth.
Fryermuth.
Yeah.
Conklin's right behind him for me.
Yeah.
He's actually pretty interesting.
He's had, what, 70 yards?
He's had 57 yards or more in two of his last three
and three of his last five
games. 10 PBR points each of his last two.
Yeah. And
obviously some duds in there, but
you know, he's a tight end.
Baltimore allows the most fantasy
points to tight ends. They have faced Waller
and Kelsey and Hawkinson
and Fant, but they've also struggled with
Mo'Ally Cox and Jared Cook
and C.J CJ Uzama.
Lamar Jackson's top three, start him.
And who's your favorite Ravens running back?
Well, Murray's not practicing on Wednesday,
which is a bad sign coming off their bye week.
So Freeman would be my favorite.
Tyson, Le'Veon, good luck.
Do you have a three-sided coin?
Le'Veon is 1,000 billion trillion percent Rocky V remember when Mr. T used that three-sided coin to decide who would die
in Rocky III it was Hulk Hogan it's right uh let's see what else can we say about this game here
Devante Freeman if he's your favorite and Latavius Murray's out would you start Devante Freeman Let's see. What else can we say about this game here?
Devontae Freeman, if he's your favorite and Latavius Murray's out,
would you start Devontae Freeman?
In that case, if Murray were out,
I'll re-ask.
Would you start Devontae Freeman or A.J. Dillon?
Dillon.
Freeman.
Okay, so now we have a question from the chat.
Bateman or Osborne?
Osborne. Bateman or Osborne? Osborne.
Bateman.
Is Bateman a startable flex, asks Ziggy in PPR.
Would you start him over Pollard or Kirk?
I would start him over Pollard.
I would not start him over Kirk if A.J. Green is out.
This team is pretty bad against wide receivers.
They face some really good ones,
but they give up the sixth most fantasy points
to wide receivers.
That would be Minnesota I'm talking about.
And week eight was their first game
without Patrick Peterson,
and they were just terrible
against the Dallas receivers and Cooper Rush.
So obviously we're going to start Marquise Brown.
He's top 10 in non-PPR.
He's top 15 in PPR.
And Bateman Watkins did not practice on Wednesday, by the way.
So Bateman is number three, four wide receiver.
Start Mark Andrews.
And the Ravens DST is top seven.
I just want to say this about the Ravens DST.
When you look at the good offenses they have played,
not their DST, but their defense in general.
When you look at the good offenses they have played,
they've only done well against the Chargers.
They were bad against the Raiders, bad against the Chiefs,
bad against the Bengals, great against the Chargers,
and not great against the Colts.
So I don't know what to make of it.
You would 100% start the Saints over the Ravens this week.
The DST?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would.
Okay.
Not 100%, but I would. I? Yeah. Yeah, I would. Okay. Not 100%, but
I would. I don't love
either, I guess.
Every week, I'll get so excited
about a DST, and I'm like,
oh, first waiver wire priority for me.
And then they suck.
I just wonder if they get to Cousins
early, how he plays.
Yeah.
Cousins is
a little cold right now for sure.
Denver at Dallas. Stat of the game. Didn't have a great
stat of the game, but I will tell you this.
Dallas gives up the eighth most
fantasy points to wide receivers, the third
most yards per catch to wide receivers.
And they've given up some huge
games, mostly
to studs like Antonio
Brown, Godwin, Chargers receivers, DJ Moore, Adam Thielen, but also Darius Toney.
I was going to say, don't skip him.
You put him in there with the studs.
No, I didn't.
I was just listing the guys who had big games.
So does that mean anything?
Does that encourage you at all with Sutton and Judy?
I'm starting Sutton probably as a borderline number two wide receiver
and I don't trust Judy yet.
My concern would be is that
we've seen now Sutton with a game and a half
of Judy on the field and he has not played well.
Produced well.
And the other concern that I'm seeing
for me anyway is that
Teddy Bridgewater has not thrown the ball downfield
in either of his last two games.
That's only two games.
But earlier this year, he was playing pretty well.
His last two games have been his lowest intended air yards
per attempt games.
And we don't like that.
Be a little more aggressive.
We don't want to see Bridgewater default to his old ways.
I would guess after the stretch
of interceptions that he's had,
there was probably more focus on
don't throw the ball down the field as much. That's not his
strength.
He was doing a pretty decent job.
Doing a decent job and still being your strength are two
different things. He had a good
couple of performances, but that's not the best part
of his game. His accuracy and his decision-making is the best part of his game i think if he were playing a
little bit better we might be interested in him but he's outside the top 15 you got it heath
javante williams week it's always has been which which one would you start gordon or williams
i would start gordon And are you starting him?
I don't want to.
I don't think either of them are my top 24.
They're both high-end flexes.
Hey, Schrager, can you change the lower third?
You're confusing everyone.
All right, I'm on it.
Vikings, Ravens.
I don't think you can help at all.
Maybe another Rocky joke?
Another Rocky joke? I'm sure we can get that who you know paulie died in yeah i actually don't creed i mean you know what don't say because i don't
want to keep ruining movies for everybody these are 50 years old i think you can ruin the original
five rockies the creed ones i don't't know. No, he was gone before Creed.
Okay.
Let's see.
I'm looking for some questions here.
Whatever.
Melvin Gordon or
or
Darrell Williams.
Williams.
Williams.
Melvin Gordon or Cortland Sutton
Sutton
I think at the beginning of the show you asked us
which Broncos player would be the best flex
did I?
it was an hour and a half ago so I'm not sure
that's true
will Trayvon Diggs travel with Sutton
if so does Judy benefit
I doubt he will.
I don't think he's been doing much of that.
He lines up at right cornerback.
And he gives up some yards.
You know, he gets interceptions.
He gambled.
Yeah.
I said it yesterday.
I think he's Marcus Peters.
Yep.
Okay.
So that pretty much covers that.
Give me the Denver tight end breakdown,
if Fant plays and if he doesn't.
If Fant plays, you're starting him
unless you picked up somebody along the way
who you think might be better,
like maybe Gusecki, Schultz,
which I think anybody else in that range.
Dawson Knox if he plays.
But Albert O is,
like if you're in a tight end premium league
he should be added
just with the whole
it's a good matchup right
would you
would you consider starting him
I saw Dave drop Mo Alley Cox
for
Alberto
in a league
yeah he's
he's in my top 15 right now
with fans not ranked
so
I think there's an opportunity there
Dak Prescott's top five
he scored 25 or more points
in five of six games
that's in six point
for passing touchdown leagues.
Start Zeke Pollard or a Broncos running back?
I'd start both Broncos running backs over Pollard.
I think I have it Melvin Pollard-Giovante.
Any hesitation at all with Cooper or Lamb?
Zero.
Nope.
Any interest in Sed Wilson?
No.
Gallup doesn't look like he's going to play this week either.
Yeah, and Bryce Callahan is out.
The Broncos have had a pretty good defense this year,
but no Von Miller, and Bryce Callahan is out,
arguably their top cornerback.
So not going to be as good, most likely.
Dalton Schultz is top eight for you guys.
Starting him up.
No?
Updated? What do you got now?
This is a tough matchup.
I'm a little concerned.
Alright, so who'd you move ahead of him?
Who'd I move ahead of him?
Oh, you know what? Maybe I haven't re-ranked him yet.
I apologize.
Would you start Hunter Henry ahead of him?
No, I don't like Hunter Henry this week.
But I would start Jared Cook ahead of him.
Ooh. That's of him. Ooh.
That's so interesting.
Okay.
How about Zach Ertz or Dalton Schultz?
PPR, I'd start Ertz if Green is out.
And by the way, you guys are ranking George Kittle.
So Kittle or Schultz?
Kittle.
I think I have Kittle ahead of Schultz.
It's very, very close.
Fryer, Booth, or Schultz? Schultz. It's very, very close. Fryermuth or Schultz?
Schultz.
Fryermuth.
Yeah.
Is Schultz's matchup worse than Fryermuth's?
Yeah.
Broncos haven't given up a touchdown to tight end yet.
They have faced Mark Andrews, five catches, 67 yards.
Darren Waller, five catches, 59 yards.
Ricky Seals-Jones, two catches, 12 yards. Darren Waller. Five catches, 59 yards. Ricky Seals-Jones.
Two catches, 12 yards. Those are the noteworthy ones they've played. So that's pretty
good against Andrews and Waller.
Okay. Dallas DST
is... Oh!
This was the one, Heath!
This was the one. Too low
on the Dallas DST.
You have them 17th. Jamie has them 8th.
Dave has them 5th.
That was it.
Okay.
I'm still going to stick with the Saints
as the team you're too low on,
but Cowboys did jump out at me.
All right.
I've got a couple.
How many games do we have left?
Probably like 10.
Buffalo at Jacksonville.
Okay.
All right.
Start all Bills.
Sit all Jags. Yep. All right. Start all Bills, sit all Jags?
Yep.
Unless Robinson plays.
What if it's Carlos Hyde?
You know,
you could have a lot of touches.
Any interest?
What's your interest level on him?
Desperation,
flex play.
Yeah,
maybe I would be
maybe a slightly more kind,
maybe I'd say high-end flex play.
Where do you guys have Zach Moss this week?
Right around 20.
Yep, yep, just ahead of Daryl Williams and the Broncos.
Right, I mean, this sets up well for him.
He's the fourth-quarter guy.
Hopefully he can score.
He's been involved in the passing game two of the last three games.
Right, the only concern I would have is if they don't
throw him the ball because he's never like,
he's always been below four yards per carry,
I think.
And Jags have not given up yards per kick.
Like they have been very focused on keeping that rushing defense in the top
five somehow.
Yeah.
Look, you talked about it last week, right?
You didn't like Alex Collins because we kind of established this,
that the Jaguars have a good run defense,
but they give up fantasy points to running backs because they have a bad
defense.
And you were thinking, well, it's not like the Viking.
There's not like the Seahawks have this great offense.
And so is Collins.
That's the difference.
The bills do.
Right.
Right.
So that's, I think you probably need that touchdown from from moss hopefully you get you might get two
you never know well there's that's the nice thing about moss i think you have two different outs
he could score the touchdown or he could get the six targets again either one of those is going to
make him a number two running back okay so why okay so then i know you're going to say Moss, but Jamie Moss or Boston Scott.
Oh,
you haven't back to back.
Moss.
Okay.
Zach Moss or James Connor.
Moss.
Moss.
Chuba Hubbard.
Moss.
I'll go Moss and PPR Chuba and on that's because mcafree's playing
i would hope so i hope so fingers crossed um i want to go back to schultz for a second um
because i was ranking him changing my rankings with the assumption gallop's playing with gallop
still out schultz is fine not a matchup, but you're still starting.
All right. Let's talk about the Bills wide receivers.
Everyone's going to start Diggs.
Beasley, I feel like you guys are actually kind of far apart on it.
I want to go back to the Rocky thing, and
Apollo didn't die in one.
I just wanted to clear on that.
Adrian. Okay.
Emmanuel Sanders.
He's yelling because he's so sad. Adrian! Emmanuel Sanders did He's so sad, Adrian.
Emmanuel Sanders did not have a target last week.
Or did he have a target?
He didn't have a catch.
Four targets, no catch.
Four targets, no catch.
Cole Beasley had 13 targets last week.
Oh, that was my stat of the game,
is Cole Beasley and how his production
has been tied to pass attempts.
He's only been good when Josh Allen
has thrown 42 or more times,
which probably won't happen in this game.
But, yeah, all right, break it down.
Sanders versus Beasley.
Jamie, who do you like?
Beasley in PPR.
I still would go back to Sanders in non-PPR.
My thought for Beasley last week,
when we had him on the waiver wire coming off their bye week
and I had him as a start in starting. So I think as a sleeper and starting was what was going to
happen without Dawson Knox, you know, and how would they, you know, distribute those targets?
And obviously Beasley won in a big way. And you had brought up, you know, the his history against
dolphins wasn't good, but I was just hoping that there'd be more volume for him. I think that's going to be the case.
Now, Beasley's missing practice this week.
He's got a rib injury, so keep that in mind.
But I think this is one of those games where Sanders goes back to,
where Allen goes back to Sanders and doesn't want him to feel left out.
So they're going to do whatever they want to in this game,
and I think Sanders is back in play.
Don't let last week scare you off from playing him
if you've been playing him the last few weeks.
All right, so James in the chat is saying,
wait, Beasley's production is tied to pass attempts,
hashtag analysis.
So I get that, but let me explain it a little bit further.
Beasley has had either really, really good games in PPR
or really terrible games, right?
He has not been in between.
And Josh Allen's-
Three of the last five, 20 or more PPR points.
Yeah, but Josh Allen's pass attempts
have been kind of very high and very low.
And when they blow out teams,
he has a tendency to not throw that much, right?
So last week was surprisingly close against the Dolphins.
That's why...
And he ended up throwing a lot more than I anticipated.
So I'm just bringing up that downside of Beasley
that when Allen has not had to throw a lot,
and there have been some games like that, even though they are a pass-heavy team, Beasley that when Allen has not had to throw a lot and there have been some games
like that, even though they are a pass-heavy team,
Beasley's been awful.
That's what I meant by, I mean, it's a fair question,
but just to explain it.
In this game, Marvin Jones,
we're getting a question, Marvin Jones or
Galladay if he plays?
I would go with
Galladay. I'd probably go with Marvin
Jones.
Okay. All right. I would go with Galde I'd probably go with Marvin Jones okay alright
so turning it to the Jaguars
we already talked about them
well we haven't really talked about Marvin Jones
you said it
how can you trust the Jaguars
yeah
how about Dan Arnold
again this is a guy I want to stash
I want to have on my roster,
but I don't want to play him this week.
And that's like I would probably, if I'm desperate at tight end,
I'm probably not going to pick up somebody else to start over him.
I'm probably just going to start him.
Would you start Tommy Sweeney over Dan Arnold if Dawson Oxford was out?
No.
Okay.
All right.
That's it then.
Do you feel like we adequately covered Carlos Hyde?
Oh, yeah.
Not that hard to cover.
He doesn't move very fast.
He had six catches last week.
I mean, that was against Seattle.
Everybody, every running back catches passes on Seattle.
That's it for the show.
All right. Good stuff.
Thank you very much. A lot of news, a lot of big
stuff, and if we have to do some bonus pods,
we will.
Jamie gave some great advice. Make sure you get Odell Beckham
in case he's released and picked up by a team that actually
throws him the ball.
Thank you for watching and listening.
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Yeah. Oh, sorry.
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