Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC) and More Trade Talk (09/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 23, 2021Jamey is loving Ty'Son Williams this week (3:30), but how much confidence do we have in Daniel Jones and which players are we avoiding in Week 2 (7:30)? Kareem Hunt is risky. Jamey also gives some buy... low and sell high takes (9:15) and we play a failed round of Name That Player (15:00) ... News and notes (18:30) as we react to the Antonio Brown news and update you on all of the QB injuries. Then we run through Week 2 tough calls (24:40) like Justin Fields, Ryan Tannehill, Damien Harris and Rondale Moore ... Start or sit for Bears-Browns (30:30), Dolphins-Raiders (37:15), Colts-Titans (44:15), Saints-Patriots (48:00), Cardinals-Jaguars (55:00), Washington-Bills (59:30), Jets-Broncos (1:04:30) and Chargers-Chiefs (1:08:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
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Touchdown.
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
All right, Panthers, Texans, ready to kick off Fantasy Week 3.
We got a ton of injuries.
We got quarterback news, obviously.
And we've got eight games to preview today.
They are AFC home games.
There's one AFC home game that we're going to save for tomorrow. That would be Cincinnati and Pittsburgh as we wait for a little bit more injury information.
Jamie, you ready to start that
Panthers DST? Absolutely.
They are in my captain spot for
drafting tonight.
I just told everybody on Twitter, everybody,
everyone follows me, to consider
trading the Rams DST right
now. They've got the
Bucs. They've got, I think,
the Seahawks and the Cardinals in their next
three games. And
then take a look at their playoff
matchups. I think it is Seattle,
Baltimore, or Seattle, Minnesota
and Baltimore, something like that. What do you think?
Should we try to trade a DST?
Actually, I was going to go look
to see in our most traded feature
if any DSTs are being traded.
It would probably only be that
one uh but um well i think you know there are some leagues that carry two you know there are some
leagues um which i hate when people you know set up leagues like that's where you have to carry two
dsts you have to carry two kickers um uh our buddy uh james questel you, he plays in the league where there's actual real money for transactions.
So
it's in your best interest to draft
those backup
positions because you don't want to spend real
money if you don't have to.
But let's take a look.
There are none. None in the top 50.
Well, you're not looking at the right thing.
I'm looking at most traded.
Are you looking at most traded by position?
No, I'm looking at all.
There have been 34 trades of the Panthers DST.
Oh, okay.
Probably last night.
There are 24 trades of the Bills DST.
There are no trades of the Rams DST.
Okay.
Well, no, there are.
I don't know. Maybe we're looking at different things. But in my league, it says 36 trades of the Rams DST. Okay. Well, no, there are. I don't know.
Maybe we're looking at different things.
But in my league, it says 36 trades of the Rams DST.
Oh, I know what I'm looking at.
I'm sorry.
I was looking at free agents.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, there are AMS.
42 is the high number of Cardinals DST trades.
Yeah, you know, the Ravens DST were available in a lot.
Why are we talking about this?
Who cares?
Let's go.
They were just on the waiver wire I saw in a few of my leagues. Ravens, DST,
85% roster. They have not been good
at all. They faced us.
The Raiders
surprised them, but it was an overtime game.
And they played Chiefs.
They're a little beat up, so we got to keep an eye on some
injuries, but they got Detroit and Denver.
Here's a fun question for you to remember in
week 15. Ready?
Which team faced Darren Waller, Travis Kelsey, and TJ Hawkinson to open the season?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Ravens had a pretty tough run of tight ends.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Let's talk about players we love.
Who's the start of the week for week three?
Speaking of the Ravens, it's Tyson Williams.
You know, a little dicey, obviously, knowing that he's in a timeshare.
But it's Detroit.
And I hope that this running back that I choose against Detroit
goes better than the last running back that I chose against Detroit,
which was Raheem Mostert in Week 1.
But I think he's proven through two games that he's their best running back.
I think he's going to get the most work.
And I hope he doesn't fumble at the goal line
like we saw against the Chiefs
when Devin DuVarnay had to save him for the touchdown.
But yeah, great matchup.
I think it's going to be another fun game for Tyson.
Would you start Tyson Williams ahead of struggling running back
Saquon Barkley and I guess you could say Antonio Gibson
struggling from a fantasy perspective anyway.
I would, yes.
Certainly in non-PPR, it's tougher in PPR,
but I do like his situation a little bit better.
And he gets a couple catches.
You know, he's not a complete dud in PPR.
He's not Gus Edwards in that regard.
Wow, after this, they get Noah Fant.
Just a run of tight ends.
Wow, that's interesting.
Okay, just because Heath is not here today any
other players that you want to highlight under players we love yeah
um yeah what does he like this week heath likes
daniel jones but that's not the right uh conference uh hold on one second
what's going on why Where's my Heath sigh?
Why isn't it working?
That's not really a sigh, though.
It's more like a yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I don't have a yeah.
No, that's okay.
You can go with Daniel Jones.
I think it's pretty interesting.
There seems to be a decent amount of faith
in the Giants' offense this week against the Falcons.
I am curious, though, now with Kenny Galladay banged up, I was reading a story
about how he was
requesting some, I think maybe some slant routes
or just maybe some more work.
But I thought I saw slant routes.
And
hard to do that when you're not practicing.
Hard to work on new things when you're not practicing.
Okay. Yeah, sure, the Giants
need to run more slant routes.
But Daniel Jones, though, is top.
He's 13th for you. He's 14th for Dave. He's 11th for Heath.
Starting over guys like Ryan Tannehill and Justin Fields and Derek Carr.
Look, man, it's risky.
It's not a team that usually takes advantage of good matchups.
They've been a bad offense, but I think people liked what they saw against Washington,
so I guess you're buying into a certain
degree. He's running. That's the thing.
Anytime you get these guys that run. Now, he's not
going to run for a touchdown every week. He's done that
in two games so far,
but the sample size,
you've got to figure it's probably somewhere in between.
27 yards in week one, 95 yards
in week two. I think he could be a 30-yard rushing
guy on a week-to-week basis, which would be a nice
situation to have if you're getting
those free points and he's not turning the ball over.
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Which player will score the most fantasy points
this week? James Robinson or Mike Davis?
That's one of the questions.
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So yeah, James Robinson
or Mike Davis.
Who do you like better this week
with James Robinson going up
against Arizona
and Mike Davis at the Giants?
Mike Davis.
Okay.
Yep, let's go.
Hit Mike Davis, Ben.
Let's see what happens. Oh, it turns green. Very cool. All right. We like green players. No. Yeah It's very difficult to avoid him, but very interesting
that in his last 10 games, do you know how many
games he has over 14 PPR points in those
10 games? 14
or more, excuse me. Three.
Four. Do you know how many games he has under
six PPR points in that same
stretch? I would hope not that
many. Two? Four.
Same amount of good games, basically,
as he has bad games now there's some
in between a bunch of nines uh but he's got to score and if he doesn't score you're going to
probably be a little frustrated because he he had 13 carries last week you know that was nice to see
but you know i think you could say more of a blowout situation you know i know the only one
by 10 but you know that game was was, I think, by the third quarter,
especially when Terod went out.
The Bears' defense gave up a touchdown in week one, and then they shut down Joe Mixon in week two.
So we'll see which run defense shows up for Chicago this week.
But I'm a little bit concerned that Kareem Hunt gets, as you've noted time and time again,
a little overvalued based on who he is.
What do you think about the game? Who wins? Bears and Browns? I think the Browns win,
but I think it's a Nick Chubb,
Kareem Hunt chipping in type
of game. We'll see what Beckham does.
I'm concerned about him also.
Well, they're seven-point favorites,
and my point is Kareem Hunt, last year
and so far this year... I don't think they cover.
In any game they've won,
he has not had more than three catches. So he hasn't been a big factor and so far this year. I don't think they cover. In any game they've won,
he has not had more than three catches.
So he hasn't been a big factor in the passing game when they've won.
But he hasn't played without Jarvis Landry,
so that is something to keep in mind as well.
Well, I guess last week he mostly played
without Jarvis Landry.
Let's do some...
You know, you don't really get to give buy low, sell high.
So if you'd like to talk trade,
we always do that on Wednesday.
You're not on that show.
But we'd love to hear from you
if you're looking at any players to trade for.
I put out a Robert Woods offer last night.
Mike Williams for Robert Woods.
And I think Mike Williams is pretty legit.
I don't even think that's that lopsided of a trade,
but I think there's great production coming for Woods.
It's so fascinating when we're early in the season, right?
When you're talking about guys who struggle
versus guys who have gotten off to a surprise start.
And obviously Mike Williams is a name that most people know,
but I think are a little terrified of.
But Mike Williams, Cortland Sutton,
trying to think of guys like are in that range.
Sterling Shepard.
You know, players who you didn't draft very high or at least had some, you know, not high expectations for.
You know, I don't know if Sutton's fair to put in that category.
But Marquise Brown, you know, those type of guys that you're like, oh, can I turn Marquise Brown into Allen Robinson?
Probably not, but Marquise Brown and Devin Singletary for Allen Robinson,
for a team that's desperate for running backs,
or Marquise Brown and Damian Harris, probably a better name in PPR
for Allen Robinson, those type of trades.
So yeah, I don't think the Robert Woods owner is doing that yet,
manager is doing that yet, but three weeks from now,
they might be, hey, Adam, remember that trade you offered me?
Right, am I working out against me? but three weeks from now they might be hey adam remember that trade you offered me right my work
against me i'm gonna i might in a 2qb league i might offer uh ezekiel elliott and jamis winston
for aaron jones i do kind of feel like aaron jones is is a step up from he's not in the same group i
think he's a tier ahead of ezekiel elliott he is this week i think he is in general i mean next
week i'm with you right Right now, he looks better.
There's no doubt about it, but next week, it may be different.
Yeah.
I'm 0-2 and a little nervous
about Zeke this week. I think you're definitely
starting him, but I just don't know he's going to have a big game
against the Eagles.
We'll see with Brandon Graham out.
Yeah, that could change things, too.
But I think the usage
of Pollard is interesting,
and the usage of A.J. Dillon was almost non-existent.
Again, for now.
Let's see what happens.
What if Dillon comes out this week and he has four or five just wow plays?
One thing I don't think Dillon's going to have, though,
are those wow plays in the passing game.
I'm totally with you.
But if he has a Derrick Henry shove a guy through the stands,
Josh Norman type of stiff arm and tramples over three people
and he's the one that scores two touchdowns and Aaron Jones has none,
and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, no, did I give up the wrong guy?
Yeah.
I'm totally with you.
There's always risks.
You can't, you know, and obviously, you know,
Dave and I got into it a few weeks ago.
My point was not necessarily Jones over Zeke because I obviously had them ranked close as well it was reacting to zeke's
one bad game and saying all of a sudden he's downgrading him that was my my whole take on that
um if you're drafting right now you're taking aaron jones over zeke yeah yeah yeah you know
but again that was five and six for me you know so it's not like it's a huge step down yeah all
right i don't know if there are any players that come to mind just if you want to oh sell highs
or whatever you want i mean i think the thing that i think it would be fascinating i don't know if there are any players that come to mind, just if you want to. Oh, sell highs or whatever you want.
I mean,
I think the thing that I think it would be fascinating.
I don't have this,
you know,
scenario really that I could do,
but Gronk for Kittle or Andrews.
Yeah.
You know,
I'm so curious to see what,
what the Kittle and Andrews owners,
managers would do if they were offered Rob Gronkowski.
Yeah, right.
None of the leagues that we're in, I think, that would fly.
But I think, and that sounds a little pretentious,
but I don't think analysts...
So for example, maybe Gronk is just going to be better than Kittle.
But analysts wouldn't do that after two weeks.
But maybe we're wrong.
Sometimes we're wrong.
You know, sometimes we probably should react.
But I think, you know, as Heath said,
Ron Gronkowski's touchdown rate is like four times higher than it usually is,
and he has the highest touchdown rate in NFL history.
I think that's what Heath said.
But, yeah, I think that would work in a few leagues.
What did I do yesterday?
Sterling Shepard for Clyde Edwards-Elair.
I put that on Twitter, and it was close to 50-50. I mean, I would do that a few leagues. What did I do yesterday? Sterling Shepard for Clyde Edwards-Elair. I put that on Twitter and it was close to 50-50.
I mean, I would do that in a second.
I get people asking me,
should I trade Clyde Edwards-Elair for Tony Pollard?
Like, no.
That's a great...
People are obsessed with Tony Pollard right now.
He hit seven touches in week one.
Right.
The only way you're trading for Tony Pollard,
in your mind,
is if you're expecting Ezekiel Elliott to get benched,
which is not happening,
or get hurt. Now, if he gets hurt, obviously you're going to say,
oh my God, why didn't I trade Clyde Edwards-Hilaire for Tony Pollard? But you're banking on an injury in that case. I asked Heath and Dave this question. I don't think Dave answered me,
but Heath did. We were just off the air on HQ. Is Gronk the player we missed the most
in our preseason analysis?
Seems easy, right?
Like that's.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I think so.
Um, the only other guy that comes to mind, at least for me is Debo.
Oh, that is a weird one.
That is a totally weird one.
And I'm wondering, do you sell high on Debo or is this just a breakout?
I mean, look, we've, we've seen this seen this team uh do this before with a guy who flashed
and then flopped and i hope brandon iuka is not dante pettis uh because his pedigree was better than dante pettis but um debo might just be the guy and and if he's the guy you know we'll see
when the quarterback change eventually happens if it does but But I don't think Kittle is going to be this uninvolved by comparison to where
he typically is. I also think that once they figure out their running situation, not that
they're not giving the same amount of touches that they typically do, but they're a little bit low
by comparison. You know, usually they're around 25 carries per game to the running backs right
now. They're a little shy of that.
So I think that'll change some things,
but he's awesome.
You know,
he's,
he's looked really good in two games.
All right.
Let's,
uh,
let's do name that player,
Jamie.
I'm going to give you a taste here of medicine.
Now you have to tell me if you saw my,
my tweet about a quarterback,
I tweeted about a quarterback.
Okay,
good,
good.
Thanks for not paying attention to my tweets.
Name that player.
He leads the NFL in completion percentage.
Oh, I did see this one.
I'm sorry.
Oh, damn it.
All right.
You didn't see what I quote tweeted you, did you?
No.
Oh, I guess it could be.
Hypocrite.
I said Adam loves his quarterback so much
that he wouldn't trade Baker Mayfield for Saquon Barkley.
Yeah, Baker Mayfield leads the NFL in completion percentage.
He's second in the NFL in yards per attempt.
He's done it arguably without his best wide receiver.
In his spare time, he makes cakes, pizzas, pastries, and anything else that might go in an oven.
That was going to be one of my clues for Baker.
And yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting um what is nando saying okay so there's a tweet that says elon Musk pledges $50 million to say, if Adam Azar shaves a J in his chest hair,
his chest hair,
and not does that,
I bet he still won't do it.
Yeah, I would do it for that.
Would you?
For $50 million?
I know some people.
I know some people.
I can make a phone call.
All right, yeah.
He's in space right now.
I don't know if you can get Elon Musk on the phone.
Anyway.
Check connections.
Anyway, Jamie,
oh, tell your Jamie, tell your
restaurant in space joke.
Oh, gosh.
Do you hear about that
restaurant in space, Jamie?
No, you hear about the restaurant on the moon.
Oh.
No, I haven't heard about it.
Food is good, but it has no atmosphere.
Yeah, I love it.
Anyway, what do you make of that with Baker Mayfield?
Off to a great start, but the fantasy production has been terrible.
He's going to have some good games coming, but this is kind of who he is.
This is a team that clearly wants to lean on their run game
and limit the chances of turnovers and mistakes.
Not that he's going to make a lot, but that's just kind's just kind of the coach that he plays for and their weapons are not healthy.
I mean, you know, you start the season without Beckham on the field, you know, you're trying
to work some young guys in Anthony Schwartz. That's a nice place in week one, but he was,
you know, banged up in week two, Landry goes down in week two, Beckham down on the field,
you know, it's hard to, you know, make heads or tails of what exactly this team is going to be.
Um, I'm sure, you know, depending how things go for them, if they don't win a Super Bowl, you're going to hear the offseason story of we have to
improve our passing game, probably, you know, to whatever extent, just to have more explosive
plays and do some different things. But this is a very creative offense, too. You know,
they use multiple tight end sets, and they're going to probably have to do that a little bit
more. You know, they're going to get this Felton kid involved, you know, in some different
opportunities now. If Beckham is right, right you know maybe something changed and they do open
up the offense but you know we haven't seen that in a year and a half with beckham mayfield uh it's
probably not fair to say because there's only six games with you know this this coaching staff
getting a hold of mayfield and beckham so um the problem with with mayfield is it just he plays a
position for fantasy that is just so saturated with guys who are just better
than him as a fantasy quarterback.
Yeah, and he doesn't run.
The first six games of the season last year when Beckham was healthy,
he just wasn't nearly as good.
A lot of people have said it's because of the chemistry with Beckham
and force-feeding and whatnot, but he was on pace for 2,920 yards.
He played much better than that
down the stretch. So far, he's playing well,
but the fantasy production hasn't been there.
All right, well, let's move on. News and notes.
A lot of them. Antonio Brown is on the reserve
COVID list. Seems unlikely to play this week.
It hasn't been officially ruled out, but
unlikely to play this week at the Rams.
That is, I
think, very interesting
for Brady, for Evans.
Maybe this makes it more likely that Jalen Ramsey would shadow Mike Evans,
which he did a great job of last year.
We're going to preview this game tomorrow.
But as it relates to Thursday night,
would you start Robbie Anderson or Brandon Cooks over Mike Evans?
Would you start Sam Darnold over Tom Brady?
Would you do anything drastic now that Antonio Brown is likely out?
If you would have said
that you would start Sam Darnold over Tom Brady
after your silly rant the other night.
I'm not saying it.
I know.
No, I'm not changing anything.
First off, Brown can still get cleared.
You know, if in fact everything is accurate
and they are 100% vaccinated as a team, he
needs to have two negative tests in the next four days or backtracking to yesterday, but
four days from Wednesday, um, to be clear to play.
It doesn't seem likely because they're going to have to put in a game plan and travel on
Saturday, you know?
So, um, my guess is he probably misses this game, but I also think, look, the, the Rams
defense has changed a little bit
where they're letting Ramsey roam around.
Now, like you said, do they change that?
Was that more of a, hey, look who we're playing in the first two weeks?
You know, the Colts don't have a legit number one wide receiver.
No disrespect to Michael Pittman, but he's got to earn that.
And, you know, the Bears, you know, he played enough on Allen Robinson
or at least in Allen Robinson's direction.
They also have the Williams kid on the other side who's really good also
that doesn't get enough credit.
So I think if you're defending Tampa Bay, as Dallas showed you in week one,
you can try and still take away one guy,
and it's not going to necessarily make that much of a difference.
So my guess is they just let Ramsey kind of do what he's been doing
and see if it continues to work.
And in that game also, Mike Evans
still scored. Yeah, he did not score on
Ramsey. But that's what happens.
Yeah, he was shadowed on 73%
of his routes and he had four catches
for 40 yards. But even though he
scored, he didn't have that good of a game. It was like
55 yards and a touchdown.
Right, but if you were to say right now,
I'm giving you 55 and a touchdown,
are you playing Brandon Cooks with Davis Mills?
Are you playing Robbie Anderson,
who has struggled with Sam Dalton?
You're taking that.
Of course, I'm playing Evans, yeah.
Andy Dalton is out.
Still the starter, though, when he's healthy.
For now, that's what they're saying.
I did see a Bears beat writer suggest
that the way Matt Nagy phrased it
was that if Fields runs away with the job, it's his.
I'm sure if he runs away with the job, it's his. How could you not? Derek Carr is going to play this week, but Tua
Tungavailoa is not going to play this week. Carson Wentz does have a chance to play. Meanwhile,
Ben Roethlisberger has a pectoral injury. Looks like he's going to play, but you know, you know,
you know, Ben. Dalvin Cook mispracticed with an ankle injury.
Alexander Madison still available in some leagues.
Daryl Henderson mispracticed.
We don't want to start a Bucks running, Rams running back.
Anyway, Trey Sermon.
I'd be starting Henderson as at least a flex if he was 100% healthy.
Okay.
Trey Sermon is in the concussion protocol and Elijah Mitchell misell missed practice give me your quick take on the 49ers running backs is there someone out there on waivers that should be added
right now i mean i guess you can look at the three guys that are make the most sense uh whether it's
trenton cannon carry on johnson or jacques patrick um who they just brought off the street but it
sounds like sermon has a chance.
He was limited in practice.
He's still wearing the blue jersey,
which is indicative of that he's in the concussion protocol.
But limited on Wednesday typically gives you a chance to play on Sunday.
And so if he clears the concussion protocol and Michael Hasty is out,
excuse me, and Hasty and Elijah Mitchell are, excuse me,
then, hey, let's go. Hasty is out, and Hasty and Elijah Mitchell are, then
hey, let's go. They've faced
the Packers four times in the
last three years, and they
have eight rushing touchdowns in those four
games.
It skewed a little bit because Raheem Mostert scored four
times in the playoff game.
But they have scored a rushing
touchdown in every game against the Packers
in those four meetings.
Antonio Gibson was limited with a shoulder injury,
but he's still a start for us at Buffalo.
DeAndre Hopkins mispracticed with injured ribs.
Doesn't seem too serious now.
We'll keep an eye on it, see if he practices on Thursday.
I'd be really curious to see the decisions
fantasy managers would be making
if DeAndre Hopkins does not play.
In terms of if you
had kyler and jalen hurts if you had kyler and brady you know some people have that potential
pairing kyler and staff you have kyler won this week right yeah i mean he wouldn't move out of
the top five he would still be top five if hopkins doesn't, but how highly would we be ranking Rondell Moore
and Christian Kirk and A.J. Green?
Probably pretty high. Well, at least
two of them. Evan Ingram was limited
in practice, or at least one of them.
Josh Jacobs mispracticed. Jamison Crowder
mispracticed. Deontay Johnson mispracticed.
T. Higgins mispracticed.
Johnson and Higgins certainly have a chance
to play. Again, we're going to preview that
game tomorrow.
LaVisca Chenault practiced in full.
Odell Beckham practiced in full.
And a couple of defensive line injuries for Denver.
Mike Purcell, their nose tackle was out of practice,
and Shelby Harris was limited.
Limited on Wednesday is a good sign.
But those guys were beat up last year.
They missed a lot of games combined,
and that's why their run defense wasn't so good.
And Jewell just placed on IR.
Yep, Josie Jewell on IR.
They got the Jets this week,
and I know nobody's going to start Michael Carter or anything,
but if their run defense is severe, you know what?
It's probably not going to be that limited,
so we'll see how practice on Thursday.
Detroit wide receiver Tyra Williams is out this week,
and Russell Gage is week-to-week with an ankle injury.
I like that report.
He's week to week, but he has a chance to play.
Yeah, I did see that.
That sounded kind of silly.
Tough calls.
I'm going to ask you.
We don't have the 60-second ranking disputes today,
but I'm going to ask you if these guys are tough calls.
And let's start with Justin Fields at Cleveland.
And Cleveland, this gives me a little hope if I'm starting Fields.
Cleveland so far has the worst third down defense in the NFL.
But they do have the third highest pressure rate.
Or maybe it's just pressures in general on third down.
So they're getting to the quarterback.
They're not making plays.
And they're not getting off the field.
Their third down defense has been terrible.
And I can see Fields taking advantage of that with his legs.
They've also allowed a rushing touchdown to a quarterback in both games.
Justin fields. Is he a tough call for you this week?
He's not a tough call.
He's more of a tough rank because there's so many good quarterbacks this week.
So like the guys that I struggle with in terms of ranking him right now,
he's 16 really is the only, the one in front of him.
And that's Teddy Bridgewater.
Just because I think it fields does like amazing things. Bridgewater canwater can't do that you know and won't have to do that against
i shouldn't say can't he won't have to do that against the jets so like i think tannahill is a
safer start because i think he got going a little bit last week just had some unlucky touchdown
situations i think daniel donald is playing a little bit too well and has the falcons so it's
hard to get away from him um he's field is in my opinion, the biggest wild card this weekend.
He can go completely bananas and have just a huge, huge game.
You should be playing him in DFS for sure because of the wild swings.
But I'm sure he's going to be popular also, so that's part of it.
How about Ryan Tannehill?
You mentioned that you have him ahead of Fields.
He, as the starting quarterback for Tennessee,
has got very bad history against Indianapolis in three starts.
And, you know, with Eason starting, if Eason's starting,
you worry about the pass attempts maybe.
You worry that maybe it's a lopsided game.
What do you think about Tannehill?
Both factors to consider, which is why he's not a top-12 guy for me.
But I also think that this is sort of a potential get-right spot for him.
I mean, you've seen this Colts defense, you know,
really struggle in week one, and then, you know,
a little bit better week two, but still I don't think right,
and we'll find out if Xavier Rhodes is going to play.
I think Tannehill, if he had gotten certainly the one touchdown to Julio,
but he probably could have had another one as well at some point
during the game, just the way he was throwing the ball,
and A.J. Brown had a few drops,
that they're still trying to get him going.
And so I think he's going to have low 20s,
22 to 24 fantasy points this week, and he's projected for 22 on sports line.
So borderline starter.
Damian Harris, you guys are really high on him,
especially Heath.
And I don't know what to make of this.
It's a big surprise,
but the Saints have faced Aaron Jones and Christian McCaffrey,
and they're allowing 2.7 yards per carry to running backs.
We know Harris isn't a pass-catching threat, really.
He did have two catches.
He's had three catches in two games.
But, yeah, you guys are very high on Damian Harris.
How come?
I think he scores.
I mean, this is what the identity of the Patriots is.
They're going to run the ball. They're going to to grind out the clock they're going to try and lean on
you know Harris which has been great so far through the first two weeks of the season
I'm not sold on the Saints run defense being as good as it is you know so they're going to focus
on stopping the run that's I think how you defend the Patriots but it's also a game in
New England where they're expected to win I find it hard to get away from
from Damian Harris at this point.
I find it hard to watch this game.
It's also hard to find reliable running backs.
So anybody who's going to get 17 carries,
tough to take that guy out of your lineup.
Would you start James Robinson or Damian Harris?
In what format?
In PBR. I just don't have any faith in the Jaguars, so I would still start Damian Harris? In what format? In PPR.
I just don't have any faith in the Jaguars,
so I would still start Damian Harris.
Okay.
How about Brandon Cooks in PPR or Damian Harris?
That's a closer one.
I probably would start Harris
just with the uncertainty of what
Davis Mills could be.
How about Rondell Moore,
rostered in 69% of leagues now,
popular waiver wire pick coming off 114 yards and a touchdown,
and facing the Jaguars.
Let's say Hopkins plays.
Is Rondell Moore a tough call for you?
So in a 10-team league where we start three receivers and a flex,
Antonio Brown was one of my three receivers,
and Rondell Moore was, was still available.
So I picked up Rondell Moore and put Brown on IR.
So I'm starting him in that scenario.
Three receiver league.
I think you should take a chance on him.
It's hard to, it's hard to overlook two things.
One, he's been their target leader.
So that's something you could already say.
And if Hopkins plays, he's not a hundred percent.
So if this game gets sideways a little bit, they might decide to sit Hopkins.
And you could see this game getting sideways quickly
with how bad the Jaguars have been.
Sure.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, we'll start breaking down
the eight AFC home games,
starting with Chicago and Cleveland right after this.
All right, Justin Fields makes his starting debut.
And he will be at Cleveland.
And your stat of the game,
I already gave it,
but opponents have converted
63% of their third downs
against Cleveland,
the highest mark in the NFL,
and that is from Cleveland.com.
So something to keep an eye on here.
You already talked about
Justin Fields.
You have him 16th.
We'll come back to Fields
throughout the show.
You have him 16th.
Heath has him 16th.
Dave is lower,
has him 21st.
David Montgomery coming off a bad game.
Bad-ish game.
20 carries, 61 yards.
Three carries, 18 yards.
Any hesitation at all against a run defense that's been very good so far in Cleveland?
No.
I think he just gets too much work,
and I like the fact that he was more involved in the passing game in Week 2.
All right.
What about Allen Robinson?
Just like Fields, he's a wild card.
You're not sitting him, you know, unless you're just, you know,
I guess if somebody has Mike Williams and Cortland Sutton
and, you know, drafted Robinson and somebody else, you know,
so let's say you went, I don't know, Metcalf, Robinson,
weighted Sutton and Mike Williams.
You could probably make a case
you're sitting Allen Robinson in that regard.
And I was surprised that his start percentage,
at least as of Wednesday, was at 84%.
That's typically a 95% type of guy.
So people are somewhat concerned.
But look, we've seen now
the first two games of the season,
he's not this type of player,
but they've struggled badly with the number one
receiver Tyreek Hill and Brandon Cooks you know so hopefully Justin Fields opens up some things
for Allen Robinson and he has a blow-up game here yeah they have um I think yeah you're concerned
maybe about the passing yards in his first start for for Fields so I can understand that a little
bit would you start a,
a 49ers running back?
Let's say Trey Sermon's in and Mitchell's out.
Do you think you'd start Sermon over Robinson?
Non PPR maybe,
but I don't know how many people have that flex decision to make.
How about your start of the week?
Tyson Williams over Alan Robinson.
It's the same thing.
You know,
I,
I think if you're,
you gotta be in a 10 team league where you're debating one of those guys versus Robinson in the same thing. You know, I think if you're, you got to be in a 10-team league
where you're debating
one of those guys versus Robinson
in a flex spot.
You know, I think it's more
the receivers like Mike Williams
and Sutton and, you know, the...
How about Sterling Shepard
or Allen Robinson?
That's a tougher one in PPR.
I would still stick with Robinson,
but it's obviously really close.
Cole Komet outside the top 15.
This is the perfect FOMO
with
the Bears guys because you just don't know
what Fields is going to do for them.
There's usually
okay, I know I'm going to have
this potential from this player.
Fields may
only run.
We had Prisco on player you know fields may only run you know and like we had you know uh prisco on uh hq yesterday
and you know i asked him about fields and he said he said um you know you're gonna see a lot more
design rollouts you know whether he's running or he's just getting out of the pocket that we'd see
from you know the bears typically so what's he do when he gets out of the pocket and there's space in front of him?
He's not throwing it. He's taking off.
I think he's going to run for 50 plus yards.
He ran for 31 last week.
I think he's going to run because I think the pass rush
is going to get to him and he's going to scramble.
That's his instinct
right now. His instinct right now is to take off
and run. It's very
effective, but it's
not necessarily
a good thing for Allen Robinson.
It could be.
I mean, look, what do we see
from Jalen Hurts in week one?
You know, what was it?
260 and 60 yards rushing or something like that?
Yeah, look, you see quarterbacks
scramble all the time
and find open guys downfield, right?
You know, think about Kyler Murray.
Think about Russell Wilson.
Maybe it'll help.
I just, Yeah, whatever.
Nobody's sitting Allen Robinson, or 15% of
Allen Robinson managers are sitting
Allen Robinson. Darnell Mooney,
he's got 15 targets, same as
Allen Robinson, but he's a sit, right?
I don't think he's a sit
outright. He's just in that number three
receiver range. This is
the type of player where
I don't think you put that designation on him as
you got to sit him,
but now Mooney.
Yeah.
He's not a must play.
Yeah.
You certainly don't say you have to start them.
No.
Yeah.
I'm not sitting in because of the defense.
He's playing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cole commit is outside the top 15.
So let's go to the Browns.
Baker Mayfield is a sit.
Did you know he's leading the NFL in completion percentage?
And you said,
I heard somebody stole my name that player sticked to.
The Cleveland running back
start Chubb and Jamie already talked about
Kareem Hunt.
You got to obviously
Tyson Williams over him. How about
James White or Kareem Hunt?
PPR. Non-PPR, I'll take Hunt
just because there's more touchdown potential, I still think
for Hunt, but PPR, I'll go James White.
All right.
Starter sit, Odell Beckham.
I would try and sit him if you can.
Just don't know the – again, this is another FOMO type of guy.
So if you're thinking he can come in and be the target hog and do the –
what do we always say about Jarvis Landry for the last year plus
when Beckham's not there?
He's five catches and is the target leader from Baker Mayfield. You know, you hope that's the case, but the Bears know that too.
So what are they going to do to try to take him away and make Baker Mayfield look elsewhere?
Look at Felton, look at Schwartz, look at Peoples Jones, look at Richard Higgins.
That'd be my approach. I'm not going to let Odell Beckham beat me.
Number three receiver.
Yeah, we've never seen him without Landry on the Browns.
We don't have a sample size of that.
If he was healthy and going into this,
I'd feel a lot more optimistic.
Right.
And what about the Cleveland tight ends?
Any interest this week with Landry out?
It's just so hard to say which one is clearly
the best. I mean, if I'm stuck, I'm
going to start Austin Hooper if he's
available just based on pedigree
and opportunity. He's been
the consistent one over two weeks.
Njoku was the better one of
the secondary guys in week one, and
Harrison Bryant was the better one in week two, but they're going to use
all three of them.
Would you gamble on Cole K commit or Austin Hooper?
I'd gamble on Hooper just with the,
again,
knowing that that's what this team likes to do.
And there's no Landry there.
You'd stick with it.
Say Logan,
a struggling Logan Thomas over a Browns tight end.
It's funny.
No.
Is Logan Thomas really struggling?
I think so.
I mean,
what does he have?
15 targets in two games.
Yeah.
What does he have though?
Like 80 yards. I actually don't even know. His yards are low. You know, what does he have, 15 targets in two games? Yeah, what does he have, like 80 yards?
I actually don't even know.
His yards are low.
You know, he had five for 45, I think, on Thursday night,
and then he had 30 yards in the touchdown in week one.
Yeah, you know, he's got eight catches, 75 yards in a touchdown.
He only has 10 targets.
He had seven in week two.
He had three in week one.
Yeah, look, if he had with Fitzpatrick.
I'm not making a transaction to drop Logan Thomas for Austin.
No, not drop, but would you start if you had both of them?
If I have both of them, I'm still starting Thomas.
Okay.
Miami is at Las Vegas.
Very disappointed that Tua is not playing.
This could have been a really good game.
But here's what...
It still could be a good game. I mean, maybe.
Jacoby Brissett has been fantasy
poison. Your stat of the game,
T.Y. Hilton had
966 yards
and four touchdowns in 2017.
You said T.Y. Hilton had or had?
Had.
Hilton had. Beautiful place.
I'm not even going to go through it but he was a starter for basically
a full season in 2017 and 2019 and the production was terrible he does throw to his running backs
at about a 17 percent target share in those two years and that's almost exactly what he
threw to them last week with the dolphins. But are you basically sitting all the dolphins at Las Vegas?
I'm playing miles Gaskin.
I just have a hunch.
This is going to be a good game for him because ball out quick.
We've seen the Raiders,
you know,
for what it was for whatever the Ravens are,
you know,
Tyson Williams had a decent game catching the ball in week one.
And Najee Harris had a good game catching the ball in week two.
And this is the place where Gaskin had his best game ever, you know, last year.
So is he going to have a blow up game?
I don't think so.
Is he going to have his best game?
I do think that will be the case.
So he's not a, oh my God, I have to start Myles Gaskin.
But I think he's still a good number two running back.
Kareem Hunt or Myles Gaskin?
Gaskin for me.
I just got a text from a Dolphins fan that says, I hate football.
He's also a Hurricanes fan, so I totally get it.
Yeah, that would be bad.
Colts are preparing to be without Carson Wentz.
You know, look, it's a lame week.
Panic in South Florida over their football teams.
Not good.
The Dolphins' offensive line is horrendous.
Yeah. Every time I read about the Dolphins, it's about how bad their offensive
line has been. The Raiders defensive
line, their pressure in general
is much improved.
Very interesting development
so far. We'll see if that holds up.
I'm going to guess, and this ties into Gusecki, what we saw
in week one happens again in week two, where they play
a lot of Durham Smith.
Just a block? block yep so does that
mean you're sitting all of the passing option passing game options waddle fuller parker
somebody's going to have a good game if you could tell me who it is i'd be happy to know that but i
don't know who it's going to be out of waddle fuller or or parker so i would try to avoid them
all if you can and you know just give it a week to see you know you have a good defense you have a
good pass rush you have a bad quarterback situation you have a good pass rush. You have a bad quarterback situation.
You have a bad offensive line.
Fuller being put in the mix is clearly better
for the team, but it's probably bad for the fantasy
value of all three of them.
Really, in this game,
I don't think any
of the wide receivers are good starts, are they?
I mean,
Ruggs is going to probably get behind the defense
on one play, you know,
whether he scores or not, we'll find out, but you know, he did it against Baltimore and in the,
in the fourth quarter there to help them get to overtime. And, you know, he had the huge game against the Steelers, but this is a great secondary for Miami, you know, and they, uh,
I think are getting a little bit, um, pooped on for the score last week. Yeah. That, that 35 points was not on them necessarily.
They obviously gave up the scores, but a lot of short fields that the bills took advantage of
an entire defense because they're on the field a lot, you know, so the Raiders have a similar
situation, but you know, you look at Xavier Howard and Byron Jones and that secondary,
it's, it's hard to say that there's a safe play for what the target chair typically is for them.
So Waller is the only one that I'd feel comfortable. You go to Foxborough there's a safe play for what the target chair typically is for them. So Waller is the only one that I feel comfortable with.
You go to Foxborough and get a win in week one.
You lose.
Your backup quarterback plays almost the entire game.
You lose to a Super Bowl favorite, one of the favorites.
They got blown out.
I know.
Just chill.
Just chill, Dolphins fans.
It wasn't that bad.
It ties into Buffalo,
but I think if you were to tell the Steelers
and the Dolphins
that they'd both be 1-1
coming out of the first two games of the season,
Pittsburgh going into Buffalo
and then playing the Raiders,
you would have thought the wins would be reversed.
Yeah.
And then the Dolphins,
1-1 against two very tough opponents
in their own division,
you'd probably say, okay, well, both of those teams
probably signed up for that prior to the year.
And if you told the Raiders they'd be 2-0
against the Ravens and the Steelers,
they'd laugh you out of the building.
Even they wouldn't have believed it.
All right, so anyway, Derek Carr.
You see Frank Caliendo doing John Gruden, by the way?
No, I didn't see that.
It was something like, man, we're going,
we're going not just eight, we're not going 17-0,
we're going 18-0, man.
We're going to win on the bye week.
Derek Carr, 71% roster.
You're the lowest on Derek Carr.
You have 17th.
He scored 27 against Baltimore, 27 at Pittsburgh,
the six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
And he scored 25 points against the Dolphins last year.
It was with a rushing touchdown, but he also threw for 336 yards.
So you've got fields ahead of Carr?
Yeah, I like a lot of quarterbacks this week.
This isn't a bad Derek Carr game per se.
I don't think he's going to be much higher than 20 fantasy points,
so I still think he keeps his streak going of 20-plus points.
But I give this defense credit.
I think this is a good unit that he's facing.
This is one of those games where I think it's going to be,
you know, I would take the under.
I don't think it's going to be a high scoring affair
because of what the Dolphins offense looks like.
So, you know, that game last year was a track meet.
You know, if you recall.
It was a fun game.
Huh?
Very fun game.
Yeah.
I just think this is going to be
a low-scoring game.
So,
I don't think Carr hits
a lot of the big plays
down the field.
I think it's going to,
you know,
have to be
a lot of Waller
and maybe one
potential big play,
whether it's Edwards
or Ruggs
or it could be a Zay Jones,
you know,
play or hunt or run
for a broken tackle,
you know,
so I just don't think
it's a huge game for Derek Carr.
Yeah.
So the wide receivers for the Raiders are flyers
and Dolphins done pretty good.
Something to keep an eye on.
They were pretty good against slot receivers last year.
And so far so good.
Jacoby Myers, six catches, 44 yards on nine targets.
Cole Beasley, four catches, 36 yards.
It's been an early strength for them.
If you're considering Hunter Renfro,
which you probably aren't since he's rostered in 15% of leagues.
I guess we should talk.
Darren Robinson manager has gone to Hunter.
Oh yeah.
Maybe 15%.
All right.
Start Waller and start the Raiders DST.
They're top 12.
They're not,
well,
not for Heath.
They're not like a must start,
but you can start them Raiders or Rams real quick.
And we got to talk about Josh Jacobs or rather Kenyon Drake and Peyton Barber.
Raiders or Rams this week?
Raiders.
All right.
So what do you think about Drake?
Nobody's going to start Barber, but what do you think about Kenyon Drake?
Five catches in two straight games.
Yeah, he's a flex in PPR.
I mean, seven carries for nine yards.
They're not doing a good job run blocking.
So I know the Dolphins gave up three rush touchdowns last week.
I don't think that's going to be the norm.
Would you start Kenyon Drake or miles Gaskin?
Yeah.
Okay.
This game is in the books.
Let's go to Indianapolis at Tennessee stat of the game.
Mini golf was patented in Tennessee.
According to Knox news.com.
How's your mini golf game?
I played in the summer once,
but it was with my son's,
half of his baseball team.
So it was the parents kind of just hanging out in the back
and we would play behind them,
so not really focused on it.
Yeah, I suck at it.
I think it'd be funny
though. When I write my, my, my movie script, I'm going to have a scene, you know, where the
guys at the office, they, they meet up on a Saturday and they play instead of like golfing,
they have a mini golf game, you know, they're just talking business over mini golf as a windmill.
I think it'd be funny, Jamie, you know, you take the old stereotype of the guys
golfing together to make the guys golfing together
to make it mini-golfing together.
Hilarious stuff. No real golf.
No Topgolf.
Oh, I love Topgolf.
What a fun time
Topgolf is.
You seem like the least person
that I would... That's what I thought, too.
I had the best time.
It was really fun.
By the way,
speaking of athletic endeavors,
we brought up your basketball
versus Prisco again
and he said he would destroy you.
He has a high,
he has an inflated self-esteem.
He's too high on himself.
And then Heath just
further added to it
by saying that
Adam is the only small person I know that can't shoot.
How does he know I can't shoot?
I think he played with you once.
He's right.
No, I've never played with him, but he's just guessing.
All right, your other stat of the game.
Why would you ever leave the paint?
Well, I mean, I'm going to check him the ball at the top of the key.
He's not going to start the possession of the paint.
Yeah.
Well, what I said to him was that they're not going to call fouls,
so he's going to put you on your backside every minute.
All right.
Tennessee allowed 38 points to Arizona.
You're probably crying that game.
30 to Seattle.
Tears of joy.
Tennessee's been terrible.
Third most points in the NFL, third most yards per play,
but they have faced great offenses.
Okay.
With the Colts,
are you starting anyone other than Jonathan Taylor?
We're assuming,
let's assume Jacob Eason is starting in this game.
Anyone other than Taylor in this game?
Yeah.
Pittman and three receiver leagues.
Like you said,
the secondary is bad,
you know,
so he had a hundred yard game against them last season.
Obviously quarterback situation was better with Phillip rivers,
but,
um, I don't think they're just not going to,
you know,
throw the ball and they're not going to be able to have some success
throwing the ball.
So Doyle's in that streaming tight end conversation and,
and Pittman's in a number three receiver streaming conversation,
not a slam dunk by any stretch,
but you know,
you got to hope that what we saw last week was okay.
No Hilton.
Somebody has got to do,
you know,
a little bit better job than Zach Paschal.
And I think Pittman is that guy.
So yeah, I have some faith against this defense.
Pittman or a Dolphins or Raiders receiver?
Pittman.
Okay.
Ryan Tannehill, 14th for Jamie and Heath,
17th for Dave.
We outlined it.
You could be concerned about the past attempts.
You could be concerned about the,
just the history against the Colts.
We'll see if Xavier Rhodes plays.
But you think, you know,
get on track.
He threw 35 or more passes
two straight games. That did not happen
at all last year. Back-to-back
games with that many pass attempts, 35
or more.
But then again, they've given up
the third most points in the NFL.
So that probably won't happen either.
Tannehill, you said, I forgot, Daniel Jones or Tannehill?
I have them back-to-back right now.
Jones ahead.
Start Derrick Henry and no issues with Brown and Julio.
Start him up.
Yep.
All right, going back to last season,
it is now seven of their last nine
games. The Colts have allowed 70
yards or a touchdown to multiple
wide receivers. Seven of their
last nine games.
Surprisingly, last week was not one of them. Robert Woods
fell short with five catches for 64
yards. Geez, thanks.
New Orleans is
at New England.
New Orleans is one of the worst offenses in the NFL.
They have run the fewest plays,
but they also have gained the fewest yards
and they're 30th in yards per play.
And my stat of the game I already gave.
They're giving up 2.7 yards per carry.
They face Green Bay and Carolina,
but Jamie and everyone else is still pretty high on Damian Harris.
Anyone other than Kamara for the Saints?
No, no.
What has happened to Marcus Callaway?
My gosh.
Yeah, it's tough.
And New England typically plays pretty well in Foxborough.
I won't even get that into the Saints.
Yeah, it's just Kamara.
Do you think Kamara has a big game or a fine game
or what from a DFS standpoint?
I don't know what his cost is,
but I probably wouldn't spend the money on him.
So they have to get him going.
I mean, you know, this is the time.
You know, look, you got a blessing in week one
without a game unfolded,
and you just got punched in the face in week two.
They're somewhere in between those two teams,
and he's got to be their guy.
Patriots know that.
You know, Jamie, I love all my shows
and all my rundowns equally,
but this is one of the worst collections of games ever
because the AFC home games absolutely suck this week.
You've got all these quarterback entries. You've got a pretty good one.
Which one?
Chargers team is going to be pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, but for fantasy purposes, you know, what is it?
Breakdown.
You know who you're starting.
Helping people, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Clyde Edwards-Elair is probably the only tough call in that game.
It's our last one that we'll do.
But you got all these quarterback injuries.
You got all these low-scoring games.
And then the good one could be Pittsburgh-Cincinnati,
but like I've been saying,
I'm saving that one for tomorrow.
But it's just like all these games,
like sit, sit, sit, sit, sit.
Tomorrow's going to be a lot of starts.
What about James White?
Let's talk a little bit more about him.
I think you'll get away from him in non-PPR,
but he's got 12 catches in two games.
He's got, I think, 94 yards in two games receiving.
And I, oh, God, they drive me crazy
past catching running backs.
Just look at Naeem Hines and JD McKissick
in their two games so far.
And Geo's got nothing.
But White, is he going to be consistent?
Is he reliable in PPR?
I would put him in the sell-high category simply from the standpoint of
as Mac Jones gets more comfortable, there will be more throws down the field.
Right now he's ball out, designed plays to get James White the ball.
He's not going to be a disaster.
But I don't think he's going to be six catches every week.
He's probably going to be four catches every week.
And so whatever he loses in that regard,
you've got to be a little bit worried about.
So I don't think you're getting a huge return for him,
but if somebody's willing to buy in PPR, I'd be looking to sell.
For this week, I think he's kind of the same thing.
He's a low-end starter.
He's got a chance for five- know, five plus catches. Um,
the saints defense is still good. It's not like their defense is, is horrible.
I know they didn't look good last week, but, um, you know, I,
I think that's where, you know, Mac Jones is going to live kind of, you know,
he's take care of the ball and, and, you know, make safe throws.
And James White is perfect for that.
A couple of wide receivers that I'm pretty interested in this week are
Marquise Brown at Detroit, Devontae Smith
against Dallas.
Would you start James White over either of them?
Smith?
Maybe, but no. I have that decision in PPR
and I'm starting Smith.
Okay. Are you starting
anyone else for the Patriots other than Harris
and White? We've talked a lot about Harris so far.
Yeah, no. I'll go back to what've talked a lot about Harris so far. Yeah,
no,
I'll go back to what I said on Tuesday about Jacoby Myers.
He's a drop in non PPR.
He's a hold.
If you can in PPR,
you know,
he's still getting targets.
And at some point again,
I think you're going to see some,
some downfield throws that'll help Mac Jones.
And maybe it happens this week,
you know,
especially if Lattimore's out,
but it's just,
this is not,
this is,
you know,
for,
for people that have,
you know, not watched football forever, but certainly watched football in the early two thousands. This is what the Patriots were before Tom Brady got Randy Moss and Wes Walker.
This is Bill Belichick's team.
Run the ball.
Don't let your quarterback make mistakes.
Play good defense.
And if you have to win by a field goal every week, he'll take it.
Johnnie Smith, Hunter Henry, any interest? Not particularly. It's not
necessarily about who they are and what the matchup is. It's just the situation. I think
he's going to top out at about five or six targets a game and four or five catches a game. Not a lot
of downfield throws. If he scores, you're fine. If he doesn't, you're in trouble. And they have
one passing touchdown on the season so far. Do you think
Jack Doyle
is a better option than a Patriots tight end?
Potentially, yeah. I should probably
change my rank and put Doyle over.
Okay. Do you like
the DSTs in this game?
Yes. Obviously, the
Patriots for sure and the Saints are
okay, but the Patriots...
Bill Belichick does great jobs against quarterbacks who are struggle.
And Jameis looked like that guy last week.
All right.
I'm going to give you another trivia question.
There's pretty much no way you're going to get this.
I'm gonna have to give some hints.
There are four teams in the NFL without a 40 plus yard pass play.
Patriots are one of them.
Who are the other three? Two of them have 40 yard pass play. Patriots are one of them.
Who are the other three?
Two of them have... 40 yard pass play.
I'll give you the first hint
if you want,
whenever you want.
Sure.
Two of them have injured
starting quarterbacks.
The Colts?
No.
They have a 40 yard pass play?
Apparently.
Can't be the Texans.
Correct.
Not the Texans.
Steelers?
Not the Steelers?
No.
They have a 40-yard pass play?
Yeah.
There are 10 teams that have one 40-yard pass play.
Injured quarterbacks.
So Dolphins?
Yeah.
That's two. Two more? Yeah. That's two.
Two more? Yeah.
Who else is an injured quarterback?
We've already previewed their game today.
The Bears? Yep, the Bears.
One more. This one is
surprising and kind of fantasy relevant.
Usually a team that throws
the ball downfield a lot. The quarterback
has one of the lowest intended air yards per attempt in the NFL.
It's like 30th.
Matt Ryan.
Yeah.
The Falcons do not have a 40-plus yard pass play,
and that is surprising in two games.
All right, let's go to Arizona at Jacksonville.
Stat of the game.
Oh, crap.
I cut it off when I copied and pasted.
Despite facing Tennessee and Arizona.
Oh, no.
Despite facing Tennessee and Minnesota, my apologies,
only one wide receiver has more than 65 yards against the Cardinals.
They have faced Julio, A.J. Brown, Adam Thielen, and Justin Jefferson,
and the only wide receiver with more than 65 yards against the Cardinals is K.J. Osborne.
But they have given up four touchdowns to wide receivers, or four wide receivers have caught a touchdown.
So that's kind of interesting.
How does that make you feel about the Jacksonville receivers?
I'll trust Marvin Jones at this point.
He's healthy.
I know Levisco Chanel practices in full,
but still you've got to assume he's at less than 100% to whatever extent after leaving last week.
Jones has been connecting with Trevor Lawrence.
We saw it in the preseason, and we see it now.
He's a number three receiver,
but I would stay away from DJ Chark and LaVisca Chanel.
You like Rondo Moore or Marvin Jones?
Marvin Jones.
Okay, that might change if Hopkins is out,
but we'll assume he's in.
Kyler Murray start Arizona
running backs. Do I even have to say that?
James Conner, Chase Edmonds, I can't
imagine. Well, I don't know. You see an opportunity
for Conner, kind of like what we thought
about Javante Williams last week?
Maybe, but I've got to be
desperate to start James Conner at this point.
You know, so I think Edmonds,
you know what he is in PPR.
He's a must start at this point.
And in non-PPR, he's a flex.
Is this a big week for Edmonds?
Could be.
I mean, you just, you know,
it's going to be touchdowns.
You know, I think he's going to,
you know, probably get you
in the neighborhood of 40 to 60 rushing yards
and probably 40 to 50 receiving yards with
four or five catches.
He's got 20 carries in two games.
At least there's that for Chase
Edmonds.
Hopkins must start.
Rondell Moore or
Chase Edmonds?
Edmonds still.
I don't want to overvalue Ron Elmore because
he had a 77-yard touchdown catch
that was nobody within 10 feet of him.
Chase Edmonds or
Sterling Shepard?
Shepard.
Any interest in Max Williams?
No.
Trevor Lawrence is a...
I guess maybe if Hopkins is out.
Chase Edmonds or James Robinson?
Chase Edmonds.
About half PPR.
Chase Edmonds.
Is Robinson in your top 24?
No.
Is he in your top 50?
I just have no faith.
My fears with him...
I have him in one league. and it's a keeper league.
So originally I was keeping Jalen hurts cause it's round 13 or later.
So hurts was my fourth keeper. And then when Travis ETN got hurt,
I decided, okay, I'm gonna keep Robinson and throw back hurts.
And so we start with four keepers for everybody.
So basically the first round is like round five.
And a lot of great keepers,
you know,
are kept.
So I had the 11th pick.
So the second pick of the,
of the second round,
I took Josh Allen,
which is not something I typically do,
but a lot of the keepers were quarterbacks.
And I'm like thinking to myself,
every time I look at,
I'm going to right now.
And I'm looking at this,
I'm like,
God, if I kept Jalen hurts. Now, this is not a hurt down thing but just in the roster design if i kept jalen hurts i would have probably taken um either uh
stefan diggs or antonio gibson both guys have clearly struggled yeah you might still be owing
to but long term, you know,
it may work out better just because I don't know
if I'm ever going to be able
to start James Robinson
with any confidence.
Yeah, I know.
It's really frustrating.
But it also changed
how I drafted, you know,
because I thought,
okay, I have at least an RB2
in Robinson,
and I just don't feel
that way about him right now.
How about Marvin Jones
or James Robinson?
Marvin Jones.
All right.
Washington is at Buffalo.
They don't have a stat of the game.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Washington's at Buffalo.
Heath Cummings and Chris Towers are in Washington right now.
Yeah, they're going to get Hill Country Barbecue.
I was watching the Yankees game last night,
and their announcer just kept talking about Hill Country Barbecue.
They have one in New York, too.
It was really weird.
He mentioned it twice.
It's like they're paying him.
It's really true.
If you ever get to New York or D.C., go there.
It's so good.
Where are we here?
Washington, Buffalo?
I can't wait for the Kansas City Barbecue versus Hill Country Barbecue conversation.
I guess I'm not super familiar with what makes with what's unique about
Kansas city barbecue.
I've never been,
but everybody raves about it.
Have I been there?
I have.
I've been to St.
Louis.
All right.
Anyway,
don't start Taylor Heineke.
How do you feel about Antonio Gibson this week?
I have him in several leagues.
I'm playing him.
You know,
it's not an easy matchup
by any stretch. He's not healthy.
This could be a game where they're behind, so it could be a lot
of JD McKissick, but
he's still going to get 15-plus
touches. I'd be shocked if he didn't.
The Bills have been very good defensively
so far.
What about... So Gibson or
Edmonds, PPR?
Edmonds. Really? Okay. And I think I probably asked you this earlier, but Gibson or Edmonds, PPR? Edmonds. Really? Okay.
And I think I probably asked you this earlier,
but Gibson or Tyson Williams?
Tyson and non-PPR, Gibson and
PPR. Okay. J.D. McKissick
or James White? Who's a better
pass-catching running back this week?
White, just because at least you've seen two games of
what his role is as opposed
to... Look, Washington may have
a great game plan
and they're playing with a lead in this game
and then you're going to see a lot more of Gibson than McKissick.
What about McKissick versus James Robinson?
I'm not there yet.
Okay.
I'm not there yet.
McLaurin is only 20th for you guys.
And the Bills...
Four wide receivers have had 8 to 10 targets against the Bills,
and none of them have had more than 52 yards.
That's a very impressive stat.
I'm a little nervous about,
you know,
James Bradbury is a good corner.
Tredavious White's a little bit better.
And,
you know,
White is going to make things tough on McLaurin,
but you're not benching him.
And Logan Thomas is top 12
for you and Dave,
not for Heath.
Yeah,
I'm probably going to adjust that and drop him a couple Heath. Yeah, I'm probably going to adjust that
and drop him a couple spots.
Okay, who are you going to put ahead of him?
Jack Doyle is one.
Wow.
With Jacob Eason?
Really?
Nah.
No, I'm sorry.
Excuse me.
I'm dropping
John O'Smith behind Jack Doyle,
not Logan Thomas.
Okay.
Thomas is a low-end starter, though.
So you've got right now, you have Tyler Higbee and Jared Cook.
Just to go back to what you asked me earlier,
I still start them over Hooper.
What about Higbee and Cook?
You've got them right behind him.
I think Higbee bounces back.
We've seen Tampa Bay struggle a little bit against tight ends.
So I think Higbee, back home, a little bit more involved,
has a better performance with them,
uh,
throwing a little bit more this week.
And then Jared cook,
if he scores last week,
like he should have.
And after the way he played in week one,
I think people are a lot more comfortable with him.
Um,
right.
Taking on the,
you know,
that's,
that's a,
that's a shootout.
Yeah.
And Josh Allen is a start starters at Devin Singletary.
I know we're not going to say to start Zach Moss,
but he's 68% rostered.
I think there's probably
some fantasy managers
out there.
Yeah, that should be adding
Zach Moss.
What do you think
about Singletary?
So far, Devin Singletary
has a 25-yard run
in week one.
He has a 46-yard run
in week two.
He looked good
in the preseason.
So, so far, so good.
Is he a start?
Flex at best.
Now you have Moss back,
so we'll see how much
work he takes you know this time compared to last week he had eight carries did have moss to have a
fumble um you know but the the two short area touchdowns when the game was in hand so you know
i don't know how much that matters uh i know singletary has i think five catches in two weeks
but he's done nothing with the ball in the passing game um and washington's been really good against
running backs you know you can say okay it's it's who they faced and how much was Eckler not involved
in the passing game in week one, a byproduct of him not being healthy and used, or how
much of it was the Washington defense being good in that regard.
So they haven't given him a lot of production on the ground.
You know, he had the 41 yard run from Barkley, but he did nothing else.
So I don't think he's gonna have a lot of success running the ball. And so
Singletary can give you a lot of empty
production. He can give you
60, 70 yards on the ground and maybe 15, 20
yards in the air on one or two catches. I just don't
think it's a slam dunk if he doesn't score.
Okay. Anyone other than
Stefan Diggs in the passing game?
Not that I would trust, no. But Beasley
and Sanders and Davis
all have a chance to make a play or two.
Yeah, I don't know what to make of this,
but Keenan Allen plays in the slot, had a huge game.
Sterling Shepard plays in the slot, had a huge game.
Shepard is a more appropriate comp to Cole Beasley.
Yeah, Beasley can have a week one type of game where he had six for 80.
Eight for 60, I think.
I'm sorry, eight for 60, yes.
And Bill's DST is better than Washington.
In fact, you might just drop Washington.
They have a tough schedule coming up.
Yeah, that's one of the biggest frustrations for me.
I thought they were going to be good or better.
They've been good.
Still could turn it around, but yeah, off to a slow start.
Yeah, look, they faced the Giants.
Give them a break.
Jets at Denver.
No Ronald Darby at cornerback.
No Bradley Chubb to rush the passer for Denver.
It probably won't matter.
Here's your stat of the game, though.
The Jets have allowed the fifth fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks
and the fourth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers.
Their past defense has not been that bad,
but they have faced Carolina and New England.
What's your confidence level in Teddy Bridgewater?
Obviously, everyone's going to start Sutton this week,
I'm sure, or just about.
What's your confidence level in Bridgewater?
Low-end starter.
I think he's clearly played well enough
to deserve your trust
in two quarterback and super flex leagues, for sure.
One quarterback leagues,
I don't know how many people
are going to necessarily have to start him,
but if you drafted Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow,
I think he's better than those guys this week.
The question becomes is,
do you trust him or Derek Carr?
Do you trust him or Daniel Jones?
You trust him or Justin Fields?
And it's just probably personal preference.
You know,
he's in the mix with those guys for sure.
Well,
who's the best running back in this game?
It's a great question.
I still think Javante Williams for me.
He's
I think if the game goes as it should,
he's going to get some opportunities late in the game to
help pad his numbers.
I would rank them
Javante,
Gordon, Carter, Ty Johnson.
Is Javante
Williams a top 30 guy for you
this week? Yes. Better in non-PPR
than PPR. Would you start JD McKissick
or Javante Williams?
I'd still start Javante Williams.
Okay. I can't
really do a Niners running back
thing. We don't know
who it's going to be. So Javante Williams, low-end
starter. Niner starter over anybody
in this game.
Okay. So you're saying if Mitchell plays, you start Mitchell.
If he doesn't, you start Sermon.
Well, I'll take that back.
Either of those two guys.
I'm not starting Patrick or Cannon or those guys.
Right.
Are you starting any Jets?
Really, it's Corey Davis.
Are you starting Corey Davis?
No.
No, but I'm stashing Elijah Moore everywhere.
Anybody that gave up on that guy already is making a mistake.
Okay.
And Cortland Sutton is top 15 for you.
He's top 24 for everyone.
Start Cortland Sutton.
He had 159 yards.
And I'd say there were probably three other deep balls that were not completed.
So he really...
Did you see what his air yards were?
Yeah, I know they were, as Jacob Gibbs pointed out,
more air yards for Sutton in week two
than any player had in any week all of 2020.
309.
Incredible.
Now, air yards are interesting, Jamie,
because I think for great receivers,
like Calvin Ridley or whatever, you want a lot of air yards.
But for a guy like DJ Chark, for example, who had all those air yards in week one, air yards scare me a little bit.
It leads to inconsistency.
You need to see a lot of other routes.
And one thing I like, for example, Mike Williams, his ADOT is way down this year.
And I think that's a good thing.
Okay, because it leads to more catches and it leads to more consistency. his ADOT is way down this year. And I think that's a good thing.
Okay, because it leads to more catches and it leads to more consistency.
And he's got the talent and the quarterback
to score some touchdowns with it.
I'm not saying I'm worried about Sutton,
but I don't do backflips over air yards
because I think for a lot of wide receivers...
No, me neither, but that number has to like just,
you know, your eyes go, whoa.
I looked at all of his targets from week two
and I would say there was one where he was pretty open.
Bridgewater didn't make a great throw on a deep ball.
That could have been a 50-yard pass.
He could have had a 200-something-yard game,
but it was just so many deep balls, but also some short stuff.
That was the good news.
Yeah.
And I don't think people are going to be benching Noah Fant.
Would you start Noah Fant or Kyle Pitts?
Still Pitts. Noah Fant or Kyle Pitts?
Still Pitts. Noah Fant or Tyler Higby?
Still Fant.
Any interest in Tim Patrick?
He's hurt.
Not much. Low-end
number three receiver. Broncos DST
is number one across the board.
Last game, Chargers
at Chiefs. I mentioned Mike Williams. This was my one across the board. Last game, Chargers at Chiefs.
Yeah, I mentioned Mike Williams.
This was my stat of the game.
His ADOT, average depth of target, 9.3 yards.
It had not been lower than 14.5
in any of his three previous seasons.
So you're going to get a lot more catches
if that continues, that trend continues.
Kansas City is allowing the most yards per play.
They faced Cleveland and Baltimore, so that
that's fine, but their defense has
struggled, and they've already allowed
40, they've already allowed
four pass plays of 40 or more
yards, the most in the NFL.
Are we starting everyone in this
game? Well, let's take Clyde Eberziler
out of the equation, but the two
quarterbacks, three wide receivers,
tight ends, and then Cook low end starter. quarterbacks, three wide receivers, tight ends,
and then Cook low end starter.
I mean, it's easy, right?
Start the studs
and then we'll talk CEH separately,
but start the studs.
100%.
Yeah, I think it's going to be,
I hope, the best game of the week,
certainly in the conversation.
And you want to see Herbert
go toe-to-toe with Mahomes.
You want to see the two best tight ends
of football go head-to-head.
You want to see... I'm sorry, nottoe with Mahomes. You want to see the two best tight ends in football go head-to-head.
You want to see... I'm sorry, not two best tight ends.
One of my things.
The best tight end and...
I'm like, why are they playing Raiders?
He used to be there.
I'm like Travis Kelsey.
I don't know where they're playing next week.
Yeah, you want to see these two quarterbacks go toe-to-toe
and these receivers go head-to-head as well.
What do we have?
We have a note here.
Brett Hundley took the majority of the starters reps
for the Colts on Wednesday.
He and Jacob Eason may both play.
Okay.
Great.
I'd rather watch the Chiefs-Chargers game than that game.
I'd rather watch halftime of Chiefs-Chargers than that game.
Yeah, so Mike Williams is top 12 for you, or top 13 in PPR.
You're in love with the Chargers passing game.
It's hard not to be.
This is nuts.
Just the buy low on him.
If people are panicked about Justin Herbert, you haven't watched the games because he's just awesome.
And, you know, I thought he'd have a bad fantasy game against Washington,
and I got lucky by saying he was a bust alert that week
because he should have had a couple touchdowns.
He had two tight end touchdowns called back last week for silly penalties.
Like, it's just missing for him.
I hope it's not going to be an unlucky season in that regard.
But, man, you cannot watch that guy play and not say, It's just missing for him. I hope it's not going to be an unlucky season in that regard.
But, man, you cannot watch that guy play and not say,
what were the Dolphins thinking by taking Tua over him?
My goodness.
It's pretty outrageous, unfortunately.
All right, Clyde Edwards-Elair is the tough call here.
And I apologize.
I should have talked about him earlier in the show.
But here we are.
Start or sit, Clyde Edwards-Elair.
So I still think he's a low-end starter. I have him in one league. I'm still going to start him.
The Chargers have been bad against running backs. You know, you look at Antonio
Gibson, what he did in week one, over 100 total yards
you saw last week
in terms of, you know,
the production that they gave up. You know, I think
there's an opportunity here
for Edwards-Hilaire to
do some things. And I do like
because we saw this after the fumble,
like I went to see what the comments were.
Mahomes were behind Clyde Edwards-Solaire.
Travis Kelsey, he's our guy.
We're not going to go very far if he's not doing big things.
Andy Reid, we need him to be our lead guy.
Everybody behind him with the fumble.
And Reid said that's his first fumble,
so we're not going to punish him for it.
So I wonder if – the reason I bring it up is I think it was either the Browns game
or the Bills game.
Nicole Hardman had a big fumble in the playoffs last year.
And the footage of the NFL films, the whole team was like, we need you.
Don't give up. Keep your head in it. And they were just so rallied around him, and he caught NFL films, the whole team was like, we need you. Don't give up.
Don't, you know, keep your head in it.
You know, and they were just like so rallied around him.
And he caught a touchdown in the game or had a, you know, a run in the game,
whatever it was, you know, big play.
And they were just so happy for him.
And I wonder if the same thing is going to happen this week for Edward
C.
Lair.
Like they give him, you know, some goal line opportunities,
a little bit more work in the passing game.
So just something to keep an eye on.
You know, I think this could be a bounce back game for him.
It's a bounce back spot, just how the Chargers have
struggled against the run. Okay. And then speaking of Hardman or anyone else, did you take a flyer
on Mikko Hardman this week? Not as a start, but you know, the eight targets were nice. It's just,
I think he's going to be a victim unless Tyreek Hill gets hurt of everybody being involved,
you know, so he may be the leader of the, of the backup singers,
but they're still backup singers. You know,
Byron Pringle scored a touchdown to Marcus Robinson scored a touchdown.
He had eight targets, but did nothing with, you know, him and Clyde Edwards,
you know, and I think when you do an autopsy on the chiefs, you know, five,
five years from now, 10 years from now, and you say,
why didn't they win more super bowls?
It could be because they spent a first round pick on Edwards and he flopped
and they spent a second-round pick on
Mikko Hardman, and he flopped. Mikko Hardman went
ahead of Terry McLaurin and DK Metcalf in that
draft. Imagine those guys on this team.
My God. It's just
insane.
That would be so scary.
Tough break
there for the Chiefs.
We will talk to you tomorrow
with the NFC home games.
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