Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Brady's Return! Is Carr Legit? (09/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 30, 2021

In case you were not aware, the Bucs are at the Patriots this week, but there are other games to be excited about including that Monday night game between the Raiders and Chargers! Let's kick off toda...y's show with players we love this week (2:00). Jalen Hurts is our Start of the Week and Chuba Hubbard should help your Fantasy squads. Meanwhile, which players are we sitting (5:00)? ... Let's have 60-second rankings disputes (8:00) on Damien Harris, Cole Beasley and more. And we've got a lot of injuries to keep up with this week (17:40) ... Start or sit for Raiders-Chargers (27:15), Bucs-Patriots (36:50), Ravens-Broncos (44:15), Steelers-Packers (50:00), Chiefs-Eagles (55:00), Texans-Bills (59:00), Colts-Dolphins (1:02:50) and Titans-Jets (1:06:50) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Let's get started with Fantasy Week 4. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football Today. Adam, Jamie, and Heath with eight mostly AFC home games. Had to balance it out a little bit. We'll be talking about the AFC home games plus Pittsburgh at Green Bay and Kansas City at Philadelphia. the AFC home games, plus Pittsburgh at Green Bay and
Starting point is 00:01:45 Kansas City at Philadelphia. Who are the Bucs playing this week? Slipping my mind. A little bit of attention being put on that game. Do you know which one I'm really looking forward to, fellas? Let's go ahead. Jets-Titans. Not Jets-Titans.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Heath, do you have a guess? I know what the Bonanza is, and I'm just going to pretend like hopefully the Bonanza is not going to happen. I don't pick the Bonanza until Friday. I don't know what the Bonanza is. It's got to be Cardinals-Rams, right? I was assuming it would be Raiders-Chargers.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. I was thinking with AFC home games. Let's see how legit the Raiders are. They get so many Monday night games, or atiders are and they get so many Monday night games or at least every year they get a week one Monday night game this time I'm actually excited to watch them in prime time Derek Carr is one of the most interesting
Starting point is 00:02:33 players in fantasy he leads the NFL in passing yards through three games now if you take away his overtime stats he wouldn't but you know alright let's talk about players we love, Jamie. Who are we firing up this week? Well, I hope I don't ruin this guy, but Jalen Hurts is the start of the week.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So I think you've seen kind of the floor each of the last two weeks based on his rushing production, 21 and 24 fantasy points. So I'm hoping that's the worst. The best is i still think yet to come we saw a snippet of that in week one i think we're gonna see it again in week four uh the projected total is 54 and a half so i think they'll have to keep point keep up with the chief's offense uh garbage time will matter because they're a touchdown underdog at home which is never a good sign um But yeah, the rushing is
Starting point is 00:03:25 what is the important part here for him. And they struggled with the rushing quarterback already when Lamar Jackson went for 102 touchdowns. So hopefully Jalen Hurts does the same thing. I don't know how much this matters to anybody, but the Chiefs, I think, gave up seven rushing touchdowns to quarterbacks last year. This is something that they
Starting point is 00:03:41 struggled with last year. They've got similar personnel, and they're giving up the most yards per play in the NFL. All right, so Jalen Hurts is the start of the week. Heath, who do you love this week? I'm going to give you my full progression of how I was going to answer this question. So first, I thought, I've got DeAndre Swift at number four, RB4 in PPR. I'll just say, I talked about DeAndre Swift enough. I've got Alexander Madison at RB5, but Dalvin Cook might play. I've got Sonny Michel at RB 10, but Daryl Henderson might play. So I'll say Chuba Hubbard. I, uh, I expect that he will get two thirds of the Christian McCaffrey role and I've got him at RB 11. I think he, uh, probably gets 12 to 14 carries catches five plus passes. I'm not totally sold this Dallas defense is very good,
Starting point is 00:04:25 especially against running backs. I think Chuba gets into the end zone and is a number one running back. Sonny Michel, number 10, though? If there's no Daryl Henderson, absolutely, yes. You've got a favorite in a game that has a huge over-under, a guy that's getting all the running back touches against a defense that's giving up
Starting point is 00:04:46 five and a half yards per carry. I get everything you want in a running back matchup. Yeah. Rams facing Arizona. Potential Bonanza. I can't use Seattle or Minnesota. They were last week. Yeah, that's probably going to be it. And I got it right last week, people.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So everyone just relax. Don't tell Tyler Luck at that. Or Russell Wilson. But everyone else did great. Minnesota and Seattle. I had to once again... Do you believe that game didn't hit the over? I can.
Starting point is 00:05:16 That should be part of your bonanza. It's got to hit the over. I accept. I accept that. No, that's PS. It had an already really high over so uh i had to once again convince someone that i'm not a sorcerer i i don't know i i promise i'm not all right so those are players we like who do we avoid in week three week four you can also talk about week three
Starting point is 00:05:41 but who do we avoid in week four heath i could i could i would do much better at telling you who to avoid in week three um i'm pretty worried about chase claypool because i think deontay johnson's coming back i think there's a decent chance that juju's coming back as well claypool's targets really didn't explode until juju went out of that game it wasn't even with with deontay johnson out that they exploded and then this packers past defense should be pretty good. Ben looks completely washed up. I would like to avoid Chase Claypool if I can. He's a borderline number three wide receiver for me.
Starting point is 00:06:12 All right, Jamie, give me a sit. Damien Harris, no thank you. No thank you, no thank you, no thank you. Taking on the Bucs. His playing time was a problem last week because of pass protection, according to a report. And if you can't pass protect, sorry, you're not going to play when you're chasing points.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And we know that they don't have a pass catching back that they trust. Clearly, they don't trust Damian Harris. So time to sit him this week. All right. 60-second rankings dispute number one is Damian Harris. Somebody likes him? He's got him, well, 12th in non-PPR, but still 23rd, what is this music?
Starting point is 00:06:51 23rd in full PPR, whereas he's not in the top 30 for Dave and Jamie. Heath? This might be a 60-second rankings mover. First off, there's not a lot of running backs that I feel great about, and I tend to use a player's role, especially at this point, over the full three weeks of the season and not just last week. So I kind of think there's an opportunity that Damon Harris catches a few
Starting point is 00:07:18 more passes with James White gone. I still mostly expect him to dominate the carries, whatever carries there are in this game. I haven't projected the Patriots to do what the Cowboys did or what the Falcons did, throwing 75% of their offensive plays and just not running at all. Maybe they will do that, but I don't, I guess as good as the Tampa Bay run defense is, I don't think having Mac Jones throw 50 passes against Tampa Bay is the way to stay in that game. Oh, they're going to try and run. It's going to fail.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Brady needs 68 yards to pass Drew Brees for the all-time passing record. So after five minutes in the game when he breaks the record, their game script is out the window for the Patriots because they're down probably 14 points at that point. So I can't see Damian Harris having any success because he's not going to be involved in the passing game to a big extent. You're right, Heath. He'll probably have a bigger role. But to a larger extent, I doubt it because he may have the best hands of the running backs,
Starting point is 00:08:15 but if you can't protect your quarterback, you're not going to be out there. So no thank you. Okay, so we'd all start Chuba Hubbard over Damian Harris. Yeah. What about James Robinson tonight? No question. I've got some question, but I've got Robinson one spot higher.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Okay. Okay, then. You know what? Why don't we stick with the 60-second ranking disputes, get into some more controversial players. I don't know. Disputable players. Mike Davis.
Starting point is 00:08:44 How about him? He's 15th for Heath in PPR now. It's very close in non-PPR, but in full PPR, controversial players. I don't know. Disputable players. Mike Davis. How about him? He's 15th for Heath in PPR now. It's very close to non-PPR, but in full PPR, Heath's putting a little more weight into the catches. He's got him 15th. Jamie, you have Mike Davis
Starting point is 00:08:52 25th against Washington. Jamie, you get the first word on Mike Davis. Yeah, he's fine. He's an okay number two running back flex play. There are just other players, I think, that are in a better spot
Starting point is 00:09:03 than him. We haven't seen um the the opportunities to score touchdowns and when we have it's gone to cordero patterson you know patterson's got a significant role in this offense he's doing a as good a job if not better catching the ball right now than mike davis is so i don't have a problem starting mike davis but i don't think he's a slam dunk top 15 caliber player at this point by any stretch yeah it's just all about the volume in the passing game he's a slam dunk top 15 caliber player at this point by any stretch. Yeah, it's just all about the volume in the passing game. He's got a 16% target share.
Starting point is 00:09:32 He has almost as many targets this season as Kyle Pitts. Matt Ryan has no faith in his offensive line. He won't wait in the pocket to throw the ball deep. Everything's close to the line of scrimmage, and that has really benefited Mike Davis. And Davis actually ran the ball a little bit better last week than he had early in the year. That was encouraging to me because I think at least hold on to his role with more carries than Cordero Patterson. And like one of the biggest surprises for me, and I've just kind of almost accepted at this point, maybe they'll prove us wrong in week four. The Washington defense is not any good. No, no, I feel like their run defense has been all right. I haven't previewed that game yet. That one's tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Their run defense has been good. Eckler struggled in week one, but who knows what that was a byproduct of. Week two was... Week two was a giant. Yeah, Saquon? Yeah. Yeah, Saquon had the 41-yard run last week.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I mean, you know, he saw what Buffalo did. Yeah, I mean, they scored touchdowns. Let's see. Football team, what a weird thing. They're giving up 3.76 yards per carry to running backs. 9th. Yeah, what did Moss have? 13 for 60?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Who? Zach Moss? 13 for 60? Yeah, I don't know. They've been solid against the run. They've been terrible against the pass so far. We'll see if Matt Ryan can take advantage of that. How about Cole Beasley? Not ranked for Dave and Jamie.
Starting point is 00:10:48 That's outside the top 48 in non-PPR. Around 40th in full PPR. Number two receiver in PPR for Heath against Houston. Jamie, why so low on Cole Beasley? Game script? I just don't know how much he'll be needed.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You can make a case that was the same thing last week as well but they may have this game wrapped up in the third quarter just how things go for the Texans and how well the Bills are playing so I don't have a problem starting Beasley in PPR but there are just a lot of other players I think are better the game script thing that would normally be exactly what I would be saying in this situation
Starting point is 00:11:24 I just don't think the Buffalo Bills care at all. They've thrown 38 passes per, well, 76 passes the past two weeks. They've won those games by a combined 57 points. Right. And I even look back at last year. They only had three blowout wins last year. They were weeks 15, 16, and 17. They're facing Houston, by the way, for those of you who don't know, Bills against Houston.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And they threw a lot, really, in those games for the most part. I mean, Josh Allen played only a half in week 17. He threw like 25 passes or something. So they are, yeah, they throw. But Beasley, he's had two pretty solid PPR games, one dud. Yeah, and then one dud was a 35-0 blowout. Yeah, the one dud was a 35-0 blowout. Yeah, but last week was a 21-point blowout or something like that, and he had a big game.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He's a tough one. They're not going to give you three great receivers every week. But, yeah, Heath, you have faith in him. Yes, again, this will matter probably more to mine, but I think his targets versus Emmanuel Sanders' big plays, I'm probably going to rank Beasley higher than Sanders most weeks. And there's going to be some weeks where Sanders' big plays make him a lot better play that week.
Starting point is 00:12:40 But I've got Beasley at 22. I've got Sanders, I think, at 35 or 40. One of those guys, I think will be a number two wide receiver this week. I don't know. And very good at guessing which one it's, uh, it's one of those things where,
Starting point is 00:12:52 you know, we don't do half PBR rankings on our site. Um, so, you know, we're, we're, we're speaking to very,
Starting point is 00:12:59 you know, the, the two, the two sides, the two extremes, um, his own, his roster percentage is still only 74%. So people still don't even roster him enough that it's puzzling
Starting point is 00:13:14 because he's still giving you production even in non-PPR leagues. But you just don't know which guy you're going to get on a week-to-week basis. And that's the hard part with Cole Beasley. If you want the poor man's version of Cole Beasley, Hunter Renfro is rostered in 35% of leagues. That's up from... And I think I've got him like wide receiver 35. So maybe I just like those guys.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah. All right, one more. We'll go back to 60 seconds here. Mike Kosicki, 13th for Jamie and non-PPR, 11th in full PPR. Similar to where Dave has him. Dave's slightly lower, but Heath doesn't have Mike Kosicki in his top 20
Starting point is 00:13:45 against the Colts coming off that big game. Heath, why so low on Mike Kosicki? Because prior to week three, he had three catches for 41 yards on the season. And 33% of his targets came in the fourth quarter in overtime of that game against the Raiders. I just don't necessarily believe it. Now, will Fuller missed practice on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:14:06 If Will Fuller didn't play, and I know he was better in the game, Will Fuller played, but if Will Fuller didn't play, I would boost Kosicki up a little bit, but I've got a bit of a target crunch and I don't think there's going to be a 300 yard passing game with Jacoby Brissett, although it's a revenge game.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So maybe that would be fun. I just don't have enough volume for him. And it was really just one game jamie top 12 for yeah it's the only game that jacoby has started so far so you know uh the the two and a half games that to a tongue of iloa played maybe that's the problem for my kiseki is that brissette is leaning on kiseki more so than than tua is um and and to his point about Fuller getting hurt, Fuller got hurt in the overtime period. So that factors in, I think, a little bit to maybe when Gusecki's targets spiked. It's a tight end that has the second most targets of any tight end in a game this season.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So once we get past really like the top 10 guys, I'll take a dart throw on that as opposed to hoping for a touchdown here, hoping for a touchdown there. So if the connection is strong between those guys, I'll buy into it as a low-end starter. Jamie said touchdown there. All right, does it matter to you that Brissette basically played two full games, right?
Starting point is 00:15:16 I mean, he played almost the entire game in week two. Yeah, but that Buffalo game was an absolute disaster all across the board. The offensive line was more of a mess than maybe it ever will be, or at least hopefully for any of the fantasy assets for the Dolphins. And it was a much better defense. This defense isn't very good.
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Starting point is 00:16:15 Who do you guys like better? Galladay, I guess. I have Galladay ranked higher right now, but I'm going to change that. I'd rather take a chance on Ayuk in that matchup. I'm not sure either of them are currently in my top 48 at wide receiver. No Shepard or Slayton as of now. He's also still hurt, though.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Galladay's got to get it. Yeah, he played with about 70% of the snaps. Had just an incredible day, right? All right, so that's a real interesting one. Please go to cbssports.com slash start sit to play. Hey, real quick, I'm going to take a quick break from start or sit
Starting point is 00:16:55 and just a little stat here. Tell me if it matters to you. The two players who lead the NFL in yards per target are Quez Watkins and Brian Edwards. Now, Watkins has caught all seven of his targets for 26.6 yards per target. Edwards, 13 targets, and he's at 16.2 yards per target. Does this matter at all?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Maybe thinking, hey, maybe there's something here. Deep sleeper kind of players. Eagles, Quez Watkins. I don't know if we can call Brian Edwards quite. Deep sleeper kind of players. Eagles, Quez Watkins, Cole Hawkins. I don't know if we can call Brian Edwards quite a deep sleeper, but maybe he's just scratching the surface, I guess, is what I'm getting at. Heath, does this matter to you this early in the season? Quick quiz, Adam.
Starting point is 00:17:35 What is Quez Watkins' yard per reception? It's the same as his yards per time. Yeah, it doesn't at this early in the season on 7 and 13 targets. It really doesn't. I this early in the season on 7 and 13 targets, it really doesn't. I could understand why somebody would be excited about Brian Edwards, but Henry Ruggs and Hunter Renfro, I think,
Starting point is 00:17:54 and Darren Wall are all still going to get more targets than him. He looks... It's easy to watch Brian Edwards play and say, man, I know why in training camp they were raving about this guy. He does look like a number one wide receiver. Three times per game, they throw it to him. Right, but that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I mean, he's doing great with his targets. Maybe there's more to it. He does pass the eye test. I don't know. Yeah. Okay, well, thank you for the hey real quick. Injuries, news, and notes, there are a lot of them. Tonight, the Bengals are going to be without safety Jesse Bates
Starting point is 00:18:23 and probably cornerback Chidobe Awuzie. Jamie, does that change anything for you in terms of starting Marvin Jones or DJ Chark or Chenault? No, I think Jones is still a high-end number three receiver. Chark is a number three receiver. Chenault's a number four receiver. Better in PPR than non-PPR, but I still don't trust this Jaguars offensive line.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I don't trust the Jaguars offense. I don't trust Trevor Lawrence. T Higgins is out with a shoulder injury. When we looked at the game yesterday, we had done it assuming TJ Higgins would be out. Dalvin Cook limited in practice. Andy Dalton could start this week. Nick Foles could start this week.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Justin Fields could start this week. That game will break down tomorrow. Bears and Lions. Marlon Mack, I forgot to mention this on the show. So anybody interested in stashing Marlon Mack as he could be on a new team soon? Deep Dynasty League, I think it's not a bad idea if he was dropped just to see.
Starting point is 00:19:17 14-team league, 16-team league, if you have a roster spot to play with. I would put him probably in the same category, a little lesser just because at least you know where this guy's playing, but behind a Jeff Wilson. Those are the two I'm deciding between. If I don't have an IR spot, I'd rather have Wilson, but
Starting point is 00:19:33 if Mack ends up in the right situation, he could be an injury away from a starting role, but who knows what he's capable of doing at this point in his career. I really want to see him do well so Cam Akers' dynasty managers can feel more confident, right? Because we don't have a lot of running backs
Starting point is 00:19:50 who have recovered from an Achilles injury, and we may not really see anything from Marlon Mack this year, but hopefully he goes out there somewhere and performs. James White likely out for the season. Did you guys pick up any Patriots running backs on waivers?
Starting point is 00:20:04 No. I don't think so. I haven't seen all of my process through. I may have got JJ Taylor somewhere, but for the most part, I just avoided it. They may bring in somebody else. They're working out every running back that's available at this point, is what it seemed like.
Starting point is 00:20:21 This may be, see what we have this week, and then re-evaluate it after the game. I'm not surprised they haven't brought Adrian Peterson in yet. Duke Johnson, I mean, that could make a lot of sense for them. Yeah. Get that passing downs back. I don't know what happened to him.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I don't know how he, like, nobody wants him. Nobody picked up Brandon Bolden in this league, huh? All right. Sorry, looking at waivers. Oh, okay. Gronk, Gio Bernard, and Jason Pierre-Paul all mispractice. We expect Gronk to play
Starting point is 00:20:51 considering he came back from the injury last week. Julio Jones and A.J. Brown mispractice. Before we get to this game, it's the last game we're going to preview. Are there any Titans-wide receivers that you want to start or even consider starting this week at the Jets? You got to be in a deep league,
Starting point is 00:21:09 but Nick Westbrook would be the preferred choices based on his target opportunity from a week ago. So, um, but it's gotta be a desperate situation. Josh Reynolds was an active last week. They could obviously make him active. Nick Westbrook. If you can't find him,
Starting point is 00:21:20 I think he is Nick Westbrook in our database, but it's Nick Westbrook, Akina. Uh, it's something like I K H IH-I-N-E. Nailed it. Cool. I had to pronounce that at halftime last week,
Starting point is 00:21:32 and I was like, yeah, Pete, what's his last name? Eli Mitchell practice. Daryl Henderson, they seem optimistic that Henderson is going to play this week. Jamison Crowder expected to play. Marquez Valdez scantling mispractice. Slayton and Shepard mispractice. Cleveland's got some injuries on their offensive line.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Jedrick Wills and J.C. Tretter, left tackle and center, they both mispractice. Missing practice on Wednesday is not a huge alarm, I guess. What the hell am I saying? Not all that worrying. matter probably not yet for veterans yeah exactly so let me see the ones that do matter well aj terrell is back for the falcons their cornerback gerald everett is on the reserve covet list will this could be interesting okay uh baltimore's getting a little healthier on defense. George Kittle has a calf injury, but is expected to play. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Right now, the Steelers wide receivers. Heath, you kind of made a reference to this yesterday. Are you expecting all three of them? We are only ranking Claypool right now. I would guess we'll be ranking DeAndre Johnson pretty quick soon. But I kind of think the way Tomlin talked, it sounds like Juju may play as well. But I mean, right now we're only ranking Claypool.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Okay. Will Fuller mispracticed with chest and elbow injuries. Anthony Barr, Minnesota linebacker. He hasn't played yet. He was limited in practice. Remember, I've been talking about Nick Vigil and IDP. He's been okay. Had one huge game.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I think he probably goes away. I honestly don't know their depth chart that well. But Anthony Barr is someone you could consider picking up. He's been a great line huge game. I think he probably goes away. I honestly don't know their depth chart that well. But Anthony Barr is someone you could consider picking up. He's been a great linebacker in his day. Odell Beckham was limited with a shoulder injury. Jets safety, Marcus May. The Jets have given up one passing touchdown this year. Fewest in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Marcus May out three to four weeks with a sprained ankle. All right, here's a question. Curtis Samuel, Rashad Bateman, Dwayne Eskridge, John Ross, who I don't know if we should completely overlook him with the Giants situation. He does play for the Giants. Yeah, that's true. But he's a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:35 They're all off IR. Curtis Samuel, Rashad Bateman, John Ross, Dwayne Eskridge. They're off IR, but that doesn't mean that they're going to play this week. So what do you tell, what do you do with these players in IR spots? It's like they're off IR, but they've got this window to be activated now. They may not even be active. Do fantasy managers need to take these players off their IR spots?
Starting point is 00:23:58 It really depends. There is a wide range of how commissioners are handling these IR spots. If you have enforced that a player must be on IR or PUP or COVID to be in one of those spots, then yes, I think they should have to come out of those spots because they're not currently on that any longer. But there are plenty of leagues where the IR spots have basically just been guys who have an injury tag next to their name. Or maybe even don't. Yeah, that bothers me. Not that, but guys who are on ir like curtis samuel you had him in an ir spot now he's off ir but he's not necessarily going to be activated this week we should have to put him on our roster and keep taking it just like i think like i looked yesterday because i ever
Starting point is 00:24:40 saw bateman in a few leagues and i i try to police myself as much as I can. But, you know, sometimes when you play in all these leagues, it's hard. Like I'm looking at the league that Heath commissions, our Dynasty League right now. Curtis Samuel is still on IR in our database. So as long as they still have the IR tag, you're fine. You know, so they may be activated off IR,
Starting point is 00:25:03 the procedural move, but that just opens the window for them to practice. Right. I guess I don't know how it would look in the league. I figured if they were off IR, they wouldn't have the IR designation anymore. How about Rashad Bateman? Does he have it? Same thing. The window to practice is open. Yeah, I know, but what about in our leagues? Is Rashad Bateman... It should be the same thing. Okay. That takes care of that then. All right. Well, yeah, I know, but what about in our leagues? Is Rashad Bateman... It should be the same thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:25 That takes care of that, then. Alright, well, that's a relief. Jamie was very cagey yesterday. I asked him if he was okay with me putting James White on IR instead of dropping him. And he just... He wouldn't really give me a straight answer. It was really frustrating.
Starting point is 00:25:41 He just called me a cheater. I was in the middle of... Speaking of being called a cheater cheater i was in the middle of uh speaking of being called a cheater so i was in the middle of my son's baseball game and we had one of those uh umpires who like literally if you if you remember naked gun this is exactly how like every i mean these are these are nine nine through twelve year olds um every strike, like, I mean, he's making it all about himself. And so, uh, I usually stand, uh, when I'm not coaching one of the bases, I usually stand like right inside the gate. And a lot of times, like I'll have the gate like cracked open, not all the way open, but
Starting point is 00:26:16 like cracked open, especially like when my son hits, like I'll, I'll try to record him so that his mom could watch. And, um, like three times he's like, close the gate, close. like three times, he's like, close the gate. I'm like, okay, I'll close the gate. And then in the middle of like get through a pitch, he comes walking over the gates, not closed. And there's a ball that hits the gate. I'm calling your kid out. And then I'm ejecting you and I'm throwing you out for aiding and abetting. No, I was like, aiding and abetting. And so then the other coaches were giving me a hard time. Like you got to go on the other end of the bench. Get out of here. Oh my gosh. Wow. What a bed. And so then the other coaches were giving me a hard time. Like you got to go on the other end of the bench.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Get out of here. Oh my gosh. Wow. What a jerk. It was so funny. And so you're texting me in the middle of that. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And they're like, Hey, can I stash James White on IR? We know he's going to be on IR. Can I just get away with it? So I said to him, what would you do as a commissioner? You want to know what you said?
Starting point is 00:27:02 You said nothing, but I said, I know he's likely out for the year. I could probably drop him. Do you have any issues with me putting James White on IR? He's not officially there yet. Jamie just writes, yeah, cheater.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I wrote, for real? Jamie says, if you didn't say anything, I wouldn't have noticed. And I said, he's going to go on IR, obviously. What am I supposed to do with that? I'm honestly not sure what you're telling me here. And Jamie says,
Starting point is 00:27:24 what would you do as commish? And I wrote, I'd be fine with it. I know it's just procedural. am i supposed to do with that i i'm honestly not sure what you're telling me here and jb says what would you do as commish and i wrote i'd be fine with it i know it's just procedural there's no way he's not going on ir jb writes what if they cut him like just answer the damn question he said yeah cheater you just give him the little you can hold that your finger down on it and give him the little thumbs up cool but you don't have to say anything else. He said, yeah. All right, fine. That works.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Let's get to the games. Here we go. Las Vegas at the Chargers. Did I tell you I was interested in this one? Stat of the game. The Chargers, 26th against running backs. They are allowing 5.46 yards per carry to running backs. That is the most in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:28:04 They have arguably the worst run defense, I guess you could say. So, Jacobs, if he plays, would you start him? Barber, if Jacobs doesn't play, would you start him? Jamie, Vegas running backs. We're going to find out today, Thursday, on Jacobs' status because it's the first day of practice for them since the Monday night game.
Starting point is 00:28:23 So, my concern with Jacobs would be is, is it now a three-headed backfield? Because John Gruden seems to love him some Peyton Barber. And will they, you know, use all three backs? I hope not for Jacobs' sake. If Jacobs is fine and practicing in full, I think he's a number two running back. I would take the chance on that. Like you said, the matchup's good. The last time we saw him, at least he found the end zone.
Starting point is 00:28:44 He was hobbling around. The risk of playing him is clearly if he's going to go out there and re-injures himself if he's not 100 just trying to play so uh i would say far away from payton barber if jacobs is active and ready to go if jacobs is out then i think barber is a borderline number two running back and non-ppPR and a flex in PPR. I'm actually a little bit worried about Kenyon Drake because I really would have kind of liked him in this game if he only gets five carries but five catches. That's fine in this matchup, but I'm not sure how much he's going to play.
Starting point is 00:29:18 They were talking about how he missed a pass blocking assignment, and they played Peyton Barber on third downs. He's had around 10, 11 PPR fantasy points in all three games, so he's given you a nice floor, Kenyon Drake. The Chargers defense, it's kind of like the Cowboys defense. They give up yards, not great in yards per play,
Starting point is 00:29:37 but they are forcing turnovers, six turnovers in three games. Asante Samuel, rookie cornerback, he has two interceptions. Yeah, go ahead. And I would say, and this could be, I might be wrong on one of these teams, but if a team is giving up a ton of yards
Starting point is 00:29:50 through the first three weeks of the season, but they're not giving up points because they're getting turnovers, I'm going to assume they're probably bad. Oh, yeah, no, I completely agree. And the Chargers, I mean, the Raiders, sixth in scoring, first in yards, first in plays, eighth in yards per play,
Starting point is 00:30:04 second in pass attempts in the NFL. So let's talk about Derek Carr. I actually want to get your thoughts on him, not just in this game, but season long. Is he legit? Well, first of all, he's the number nine quarterback in four-point, number seven in six-point. What would he be if you only count his four quarters?
Starting point is 00:30:21 You know I have that. He'd be about 12th. He'd be 12th in fourth point and 10th in sixth point. Still ahead of Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott. He has 186 yards and a touchdown and an interception in overtime.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Something like 186. Yeah, but the yards per attempt has been phenomenal for 10 games now. It's 8.5 over his last 10 games. He's throwing a lot more. That's basically what it comes down to here. So you guys have him as a borderline, like around 12th.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But is he legit? I mean, is he? Yeah, I'll just stop it at that. Heath, is Derek Carr legit? I have Derek Carr ranked ahead of Aaron Rodgers this week week and I'm probably going to leave it that way until it changes I think he's legit in the same range as where we had Tannehill and Stafford and their Stafford's moved up a little bit out of that range but Cousins and Carr both have just moved into that Rodgers range where it's a low-end number one quarterback
Starting point is 00:31:27 and you're probably starting them most weeks. I think what stands out there is that you're calling Aaron Rodgers a low-end number one. That's how you feel? That's how we had it ranked at the beginning of the year. QB10? QB9? But so much better
Starting point is 00:31:44 than Derek Carr. Well, but Derek Carr is the one who's moved, is my point. Right. Cousins is the one who's moved. Yeah. All right, Jamie, is Derek Carr... Well, another thing we don't like, the thing that would change that
Starting point is 00:31:58 is, is Carr going to continue throwing five to seven more passes than Rodgers every week? Yeah, Rodgers' pass attempts are down even from last year when they weren't very high. Okay, so Carr is 12th for Jamie, 13th for Dave, 10th for Heath. Jamie, you want to give your quick thoughts on Carr? He's playing great. I mean, you know, again, you go back the last four games of last season, too, that he started and finished. So it's 24 more points in seven
Starting point is 00:32:25 straight games and he's he's got full command of this offense the run game I still think is suspect despite what Peyton Barber did last week you know it's the only thing that I'm a little curious about this week is is this defense going to be able to contain the receivers? Carr's spreading the ball around so much that it's hard to say they're going to negate one guy. But this is a good secondary that has done a nice job on some pretty good receivers already. Will they do the same thing to Ruggs and to Renfro? But then he has Waller and Edwards and whatever else he's going to cobble together, Zay Jones, whoever, to still get the job done. So I'll buy into what he's been doing now. I don't think it's a slam dunk, but I think it's good enough to trust.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Well, I think Darren Waller managers won another big game, and maybe this will be it. He had a huge game in week one. He's been a little disappointing in weeks two and three. But you kind of mentioned how the Chargers have been very good against wide receivers, third fewest fantasy points. They mclaurin they've faced dallas they've faced tyreek hill and no wide receiver is more than 81 yards tyreek hill mclaurin cooper 62 or fewer yards so are the raiders wide receiver sits this week and they don't give up big plays
Starting point is 00:33:42 um third fewest amount of 20-plus yard pass plays, only one pass play of 40 yards allowed. It's only three games, but so far, so good. Are we sitting the Raiders wide receivers this week? That's the thing, and this is where I struggle with this. I think Carr is worth buying into, but I don't know which receivers, aside from Waller, make plays for him because, like you said,
Starting point is 00:34:02 they've done a nice job. The 81 yards you're referencing is Cee lammy a date for 81 um i don't know though how much amari cooper's rib injury factors into that because that was the game where i guess it flared up and you know it wasn't um you know he said he got hurt week one but you know week two only five targets in that game so how much of it was health for him uh this offense, it's clearly not more diverse than the Chiefs, but it's not far off. And so if they make, just not as high-end players, but if they make the concerted effort to take away Ruggs,
Starting point is 00:34:37 does that open up more opportunities for Edwards? Does that open up more opportunities for Renfro? But they've done a nice job against slot receivers too. So I just don't think it's a slam dunk across the board for these receivers, which is why I, you know, if there is a reason to pull back on car, that's the reason.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yeah. I think I have Renfro ranked the highest in PPR. But none of them are some like, it's just, you're starting them because you don't have better options. Not you want to start them. Yeah. I think one last thing here is that when you look at Dallas and Kansas city
Starting point is 00:35:04 in particular, they ran all over the Chargers, right? I mean, Zeke Pollard and then Clyde Edwards-Zeller with 100 yards. So you didn't get a lot of pass attempts from Dak. You got pass attempts from Mahomes, but I just don't know that the Raiders have that kind of running game.
Starting point is 00:35:22 So that might help Carr too. But this might end up being a bad, you know, a below average matchup for quarterbacks if their run defense is so bad all year. Anyway, start Waller, start Herbert. He's seventh for Jamie and Dave. He's fourth for Heath. Eckler's a start.
Starting point is 00:35:38 The wide receivers are a start. What about Jared Cook? Heath, start or sit Jared Cook? I wouldn't begrudge anyone having to start Jared Cook? I wouldn't begrudge anyone having to start Jared Cook. I don't think he's a good start, but I don't think he's a bad start. He's just in that range with Tyler Conklin,
Starting point is 00:35:54 with probably Dalton Schultz, with Dallas Goddard. If I had Jared Cook on my team entering this week, I probably wasn't making a waiver ad to start someone over him. I know Heath would take Cook over Gasicki. Jamie, you were higher on Gasicki. Who would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:36:11 I'd rather have Cook. Okay. So we'll call Cook a low-end starter. We will take a break. It feels like Cook has just been unlucky. Yeah, he had the touchdown call back in week two. He had a good game in week one. And we'll see. All right, we'll take a quick break here.
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Starting point is 00:37:03 I can't wait for this one. Sunday night football. Brady, Gronk't wait for this one. Sunday Night Football. Brady Gronk back in New England. Tom Brady's top three. I heard. Yeah, I know. He's number one for Dave. He's thrown 10 touchdown passes.
Starting point is 00:37:15 How about this? The Buccaneers have rushed for two touchdowns this year. Who has scored those two rushing touchdowns? Tom Brady. Yeah. And I know it. Tom Brady. Yeah. And I know it. Got it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:30 But so we won't spend time on Brady. You just like Foxborough is kind of a tough place to play. They've done pretty well against quarterbacks here. We don't care, right? All Brady all the time. Like I said, 68 yards away from history. Yeah. So he's going to. That's all he needs. I love chaos, so I will absolutely be cheering
Starting point is 00:37:50 for the Patriots in this game. It'll be a lot of fun, but no, you're starting Tom Brady. I don't think anyone other than Patriots fans are going to be cheering for the Patriots in this game. I just said I was. I just said I was. Yeah, I know. You're a freak.
Starting point is 00:38:06 It's Brady versus Belichick. Who the hell is rooting for Belichick at this? Well, I would guess Patriots fans, probably even so, would like to see Brady play well, but their team win.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah. That's probably hard to do, but because of what the Patriots, like if this was like a legit offense versus the Bucs offense, you'd be like, okay, let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Let's see some fireworks. Let Brady go get his numbers and let our guy and our team go out and beat them. But the only way that they beat them is if Belichick throws something at Brady that he's never seen before and they get thrown off their game or he's just completely
Starting point is 00:38:38 thrown off his game because of the emotions and everything that goes along with it. I just can't see that happening. And I've got a long list of people who are cheering for the Patriots. Panthers fans? I said it. Saints fans?
Starting point is 00:38:51 NFC South. Rams fans? Yeah, all right. For sure. All right, fine. Yeah, I think the Patriots just try to mess with... Like, they should let Mac Jones wear number 12, and they should just, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:39:03 try to get in his head. It'll work. All right, Tampa Bay running backs. If Bernard doesn't play, does that make Fournette a start? Yeah. Uh, no, but close. Uh, he's flex. I like it. He's all right. If Leonard Fournette or Bernard basically did nothing in week two, he barely did anything in week one. You know, you, you know what you're getting from these guys. I don't think this is, hey, let's go back to Foxborough and run the football. They're not changing who they are. No, no, but he had five catches.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Fournette had five catches in week one. Yeah, he had 10 PPR points in week one and 11 in week two, or flip that. That's what you're looking at. If he scores, you get a better game. Yeah, okay. I would just say like 25% of Brady's passes this year have gone to running backs. I don't think they're throwing the ball to Ronald Jones.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Oh, he's better than Jones. No, but I think Fournette's probably getting 15% target share and if Brady throws 35 passes, I think he's going to be good if Gio doesn't play. Okay. Fournette or Damian Harris? Oh, Fournette. Fournette. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Tampa Bay wide receivers. Jamie, what do we do? Assuming Antonio Brown plays. Start them all. Start them all. Yes. You have the three revenge games in this game. Yeah, Brown.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. He's going to be really pissed. He's the one that's pissed. If there's anything that's pissed, it's him. Okay. We'll get into more Antonio Brown rankings. All right, fine. So let's say Antonio Brown plays, Gio doesn't.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Brown or Fournette? Brown. I would play Fournette. I don't have, I have Evans and Godwins ranked as starters, but I've got Brown quite a ways behind him. You've got to assume that Brady's eight touchdowns go to probably everybody's getting one.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. So, Gronkowski, this is actually a tough matchup. At least you go back to last year. They gave up the six fewest fantasy points. They faced Kelsey, Kittle, Waller, Andrews. They faced the best of them. Have they ever faced Gronk?
Starting point is 00:41:12 They've never faced Gronk. Is there any hesitation on Gronk? I'm going to guess that if it's in the fourth quarter and he hasn't scored yet, they're giving him carries. Like, there's no chance they're leaving Gillette Stadium without a Gronk spike. I wish they were a player prop for Gronkowski throwing a touchdown pass to Tom Brady. There you go. That's another way that they're going to do it. There's something quirky. Bruce Arians is letting them do whatever they want. And I know, obviously, I'm joking,
Starting point is 00:41:43 but the Patriots defense is good you're not benching Rob Gronkowski no but the question is would you start him over yes you know Andrews yes well I would I would I don't think I'd start him over Andrews but I like and I do think it's quite likely one of Brown Godwin Evans or Gronk is going to have a bad game. Yeah. Maybe two. Week one, week two, yeah. Right, week one it was Evans, week two it was Brown.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Patriots, any Patriots that you are excited to start? We already talked about Damian Harris and our 62nd ranking disputes. I guess we can get into Jacoby Myers or the tight ends or something here. Anyone you're excited to start? No. Myers.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Heath, how are you not saying Myers? I thought you were the Myers guy. I mean, I've got him 34th, 33rd. He's a fine number three. I'm not excited to start him. I would start him over Beasley and Renfro just to tie in the PPR caliber players that we've talked about.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Okay. Most wide receivers have actually done really well against Cooper, Landon. They've given up the most production to wide receivers. They have. How about that? The only one they did well against that was a surprise was Robert Woods. It's just hard to have a big game without a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Non-PPR, he's frustrating. So is Beasley. If you're comparing the two, I think, if I'm not mistaken, Meyer's game last week is better than Beasley's best game so far this season. What is more likely? Gronkowski scores a throws or rushes for a touchdown
Starting point is 00:43:16 or Jacoby Meyer scores? Yeah, it's a good Meyer score, but that's a fun one. What do we got here? Oh, okay. These are props? Ah, to catch the record-breaking pass. Beasley did outscore Myers last week.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He did? Yeah. Receiver, look at these props, player props here. Receiver to catch the record-breaking pass. Gronk is plus 275. Godwin plus 350. Evans 450. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Fournette plus 1,000. That might be a good one. Please be Ronald Jones. That'd be funny. Ronald Jones plus 1,800. Oh, man. Yeah, I think I'd place my bet on Evans plus 450. I think I'd go Brown plus 650.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Just because it's better odds. I don't think anybody has any reason to think they would know. Okay. You know what? I like it. It's not like you can even plan that out. What if somebody breaks a tackle and picks up 25 yards on a play you thought you were getting 10?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah. Let's go to our next game, Baltimore at Denver. By the way, Tampa Bay's DST is second overall. Expecting a good game there. Baltimore at Denver. Stat of the game. Denver is one of the 12 U.S. cities to have teams from four major sports, according to UrbanPhoenix.com.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Can I make a request for all future Denver games? Yeah. Can the stat of the game just be conspiracy theories about Denver's airport? Is that a thing? Oh, it's a major thing. Sure, I'll look into it. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:56 All right. So, yeah, a lot of sports teams in Denver. Everybody at home, see if you can think of the other 11 teams, 11 cities. All right, let's talk about Lamar Jackson. He's not top five. He's closer to 10. Is that just because quarterback is loaded?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Or what? Yes. Okay. And this is going to presumably be a very low-scoring game. Yeah, he's eighth for Jamie and Heath. He's tenth for Dave. Hopefully Marquis Brown catches the ball. So you got Justin Herbert ahead of Lamar?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yes. Cousins or Lamar? Lamar. Lamar. All right. Would you start a Baltimore running back? I would not. I would prefer not to.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Would you start a Baltimore wide receiver? Marquis Brown. I think I've got Brown as a number three. Let's see how much Jamie hates Tyson Williams after last week. Would you start Damian Harris or Tyson Williams? Tyson Williams. Broncos defense has been one of the best in football. They've allowed the fewest points,
Starting point is 00:45:59 but they face the Giants, the Jaguars, and the Jets. They're 3-0. This will be a step up in competition for sure, but their run defense does seem really, really good. So we'll give them that, although they face the Giants, Jets, and Jaguars. Marquise Brown or Jacoby Myers? Brown.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Brown, but in PPR it's close. Marquise Brown in PPR or Chuba Hubbard? Hubbard. Hubbard. Marquise Brown or PPR or Chuba Hubbard? Hubbard. Hubbard. Marquise Brown or a Falcons running back? Brown in PPR. I'll go Mike Davis. Yeah, I don't know how much this matters to you.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Again, consider the competition, but there have been seven wide receivers who have had six or more targets against the Broncos, and that's kind of where Brown lives, 6-8. And only one of them has more than 65 yards. It was Sterling Shepard in Week 1. Marvin Jones, 55 yards and a touchdown. Corey Davis, 41 yards on 10 targets.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I guess we'll learn much more about Denver this week. Them and the Panthers both, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. Mark Andrews, top 7 in both formats. You're going to start him. Teddy Bridgewater. So I know last week was really disappointing, but 19 of 25, 235 yards. That's not so bad. He just didn't score a touchdown against the Jets. But, you know, if he has to throw more in this game, theoretically he would.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You guys have him really low, like barely in the top 24. So not feeling a sleeper appeal for Bridgewater? No, I think he'll be okay in two quarterback or super flex leagues, but it's too deep a position to say you're streaming him over some of these other guys, you know, and certainly not ahead of Carr or Cousins, who, you know, were probably backups on your fantasy team or picked up at some point along the way. And this is his toughest matchup. You know, I don't want to say he's going to completely fall on his face, but this Ravens defense is clearly a step up in competition. Yeah. I think that the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:47:52 like I see in the notes here, they're 19th against quarterbacks, but that's completely misleading. They've played my homes and an overtime game against car when he threw 56 passes and Jared golf and golf. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Put it this way. Are there any Broncos that you, well, I think people are going to start Fant. So the Broncos running backs, Cortland Sutton, Tim Patrick, how do you feel about them, Jamie? I think that Sutton's a borderline starter. You know, I don't want to judge him based on last week.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I also don't want to overreact too much to what he did in week two. But I would expect that this is the, you know, type of target share that you're going to expect from him when they're in a competitive game. You know, so probably looking at somewhere between six and 10 targets. I saw a ballpark at eight and with the way that they were challenging down the
Starting point is 00:48:34 field. So tougher competition, you know, opportunity to make some plays. You know, I, if I have him and I don't have a better option, I'm starting with Patrick is a little bit tougher to trust,
Starting point is 00:48:43 but again, I think the targets will be up. So borderline number two, borderline number three receiver for each guy. Marcus Brown or Corlin Sutton? I'll give Brown the benefit of the doubt based on what I've seen so far. That one's close enough that I have to look it up.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I'll go Sutton. I cannot believe Denver's favored in this game, by the way. It started with Baltimore minus one and a half. They're defeated at home. Now it's minus one for Denver. Yeah, look, Baltimore's been a little uninspiring this year, okay? They did beat the Chiefs. That was impressive, but CH fumbled.
Starting point is 00:49:20 They barely beat the Lions. You've got a run-heavy team with no running backs. It's true, right? Noah Fant, top eight in both formats. You've got a run-heavy team with no running backs. That's true, right? Noah Fant, top eight in both formats. You guys like Fant or Andrews? Andrews. Andrews. Okay. Fant or Goddard? Fant.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Fant. Fant or Logan Thomas? Fant. Fant. Which DST do you like Thomas? Fant. Which DST do you like better? Fant. Baltimore. Heath, the answer for you is Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Baltimore, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I just updated those. Okay, good. Pittsburgh at Green Bay. Green Bay's run defense has been awesome, but they will be without Tyler Lancaster most likely. He's a backup nose tackle for them, but he's on the reserve COVID list.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And yeah, this is the stat of the game that you will probably ignore. I'll just sum it up like this. They've played 10 games now, haven't given up a carry to a running back of longer than 20 yards. Second longest was 16 yards, Trey Sermon last week. So I'm buying into their run defense.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I don't know how big of a loss Lancaster would be. So Najee Harris, I guess you maybe, given how he has run... Yeah, I don't think 20-yard runs were never part of the game plan for Najee Harris in the first place. But yeah, he could have a pretty low rush average again. So you're probably
Starting point is 00:50:41 going to need that receiving production. I think you guys have them around 12th. Is Najee Harris just a slam dunk must start? Yeah. I mean, you know, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:50:52 it's, it's funny cause it's harder in non PPR than his PPR. Cause you expect him to get the catches, um, at this point, you know, it's not going to be the same level clearly, uh,
Starting point is 00:51:00 if everybody's healthy, but I don't know which receivers are going to play for the Steelers. So, yeah, Yeah, if Juju and Deontay Johnson are both cleared, I will probably have Harris closer to 14.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But it's just hard to... I just had to try to defend Mike Davis and Leonard Fornette as starting running backs. You're just going to probably start him. I think it might be a terrible game, but you're going to start him. You guys are not starting Ben Roethlisberger. There's not... You're just going to probably start him. Yeah. I think it might be a terrible game, but you're going to start him. You guys are not starting Ben Roethlisberger.
Starting point is 00:51:28 He's outside your top 24. I think he's going to be a top... All right. Bold prediction. He finishes like 18th this week. Let's go. What is Ben Roethlisberger for the season? Oh, he's not 18th.
Starting point is 00:51:42 He's 15 points or less each week. He's got a 2.3% touchdown rate. that's horrible even for ben roethlisberger last only quarterbacks i have ranked behind ben roethlisberger are rookies the only quarterbacks who have started every game and have scored fewer fantasy points than ben roethlisberger are rookies no he sucks but green bay's defense terrible i it seems that way at at least right now. Terod Taylor has scored more fantasy points than Ben Roethlisberger this year. 2.3% touchdown rate, Heath. I thought that you'd like that stat.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Taylor Heineke has scored 16 more fantasy points than Ben Roethlisberger this year. And that's more than Roethlisberger scored in any game. All right, sit Roethlisberger. So if all the wide receivers play, who would you start? How would you rank them for Pittsburgh? Johnson, Juju, Claypool, and PPR. Johnson, Claypool, Juju, and non-PPR. Agree completely.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Johnson would be a low-end number two, borderline number two in both formats for me. Juju and Claypool would be low-end number threes. All right, one thing I want to see with Claypool is I feel like he was on the left side of the field more often in week three, but I kind of feel like that's Deontay's side of the field. And that's where you want to be against Green Bay
Starting point is 00:53:00 because if you're on the right side of the field on offense, you're going up against Jair Alexander. So I'll take a look in week two where Claypool's targets came from. Mostly on the left, I guess. I don't know. You just want to be away from Jair Alexander. The Packers are easy. At least Adams and Jones are starts. Okay, so Aaron Rodgers. What are your expectations for Aaron Rodgers in this game? Pain. I think he'll be a low-end starter.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So you guys, do you all, both of you have Carr over Rodgers? No, I would start Rodgers over Carr. Yeah, I think I have Carr and Cousins both over Rodgers. I've got Rodgers at 14th, I believe.
Starting point is 00:53:57 How about Joe Burrow tonight or Aaron Rodgers? Rodgers. Rodgers. Although, I did not realize that.e perot has scored more fantasy points in aaron rogers this season no yeah but you can throw out week one all right rogers had one point in week one yeah 34 in week 2 22 in weeks in week three this and six point for passing
Starting point is 00:54:18 touchdown leagues um pat fryer muth or robert tun? You guys want to start either of these guys? Yeah, I can't wait. Not Fryermuth, but he would be more interesting if the receivers, but both receivers are out. And Tunyon, no. I mean, he's touched on our bus, so you know what you're getting. So would you start the streaming guy, Dalton Schultz over Tunyon? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Who else? Who are the other streamers? Evan Ingram or Tunyon? Ingram for me. All right. Anyone else? MVS if he plays? No.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Okay. That's the Packers and the Steelers. I want to see, though, also if TJ Watt plays. That's big. Yeah, big deal for sure. So Kansas City and Philadelphia, Jamie, should I make this the bonanza? Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:12 No, I wouldn't do that to you. Okay, Jalen Hurst. What do you think of me that I haven't done to myself? Yeah. You know it's possible they would cancel each other out. That's true. Yeah, could be a good thing. Kansas City and Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:55:23 the Chiefs give up the most yards per play. We'll see if Frank Clark plays this week. He's only played one game. They could really use him. And, all right, here's your stat of the game. The Chiefs, bad defense, but especially against running backs. Five yards per carry,
Starting point is 00:55:37 third most fantasy points to running backs. Five running backs have already scored 10 or more PPR fantasy points in three games. Three have scored 16 or more PPR fantasy points in three games. Three have scored 16 or more PPR fantasy points. A running back has gained 93 or more total yards in every game, all three games against the Chiefs. So, Heath, does Miles Sanders get back on track? You've got to figure that they regret giving him two freaking carries last week.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Start or sit Miles Sanders, and who would you start him over? I've got him as a top 20 running back. I'd start him over Damian Harris, James Robinson, Miles Gaskin, Kareem Hunt. I would prefer to start Miles Sanders in this game than Clyde Edwards-Solaire. All right. Jamie, Clyde, or Miles?
Starting point is 00:56:16 I think I have them almost back-to-back. I like Clyde better, but Miles Sanders I think is still worth buying back into. I can't imagine a situation where they don't try and run the ball like most teams do against the Chiefs. And that's the correction, I think, early in the game that you see. So Sanders is still worth trusting. I'm just going to say this for every game now, I guess,
Starting point is 00:56:36 but Miles Sanders and Clyde Edwards, they're also back-to-back in fantasy points scored for the season. Sanders has scored one more point than Clyde. Devontae Smith or one of the running backs? Full PPR. Both running backs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Is there any wide receiver you're starting in this game other than Tyreek Hill? Yeah. I mean, Devontae Smith is still worth starting as a number three receiver. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I've got him 34th. I'd start him over Claypool, assuming Deontay Johnson's back. Would you start Devontae Smith or Chuba Hubbard? No, you're going to start Chuba Hubbard. Would you start Devontae Smith or Rams starting running back? Rams running back. Rams running back. Rams running back.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Devontae Smith or Cortland Sutton? Sutton. Super Flex League, Devontae Smith or Ben Roethlisberger? Come on. How many points per pass touchdown? He doesn't really do a lot of that anyway. I'll start Roethlisberger. I'm just joking. Okay. points per pass touchdown. He doesn't really do a lot of that anyway. I'm just joking.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Okay. What else in this game? Tight ends for Philadelphia. So now Goddard and Ertz have the same amount of targets, but Ertz had seven last week to pull him even with Dallas Goddard. Is Goddard a start this week? Borderline. He's right in that Jared Cook range,
Starting point is 00:58:08 although I did pick up Dalton Schultz in two different leagues. I didn't drop Goddard, but I am starting Schultz over Goddard currently. Start Mahomes. Let's talk a little bit more about Clyde Edwards-Elair. Eagles run defense was terrific the first two weeks. Horrible last week against Dallas. Maybe not having Brandon Graham had something to do with that. Could not have been everything. They were just getting beat at the line of scrimmage. And this is another good
Starting point is 00:58:32 offensive line, but it's probably not Dallas in terms of that, you know, physicality. But would you start Clyde or James Robinson? Robinson. I've got Robinson higher. Clyde Edward Ziller or Leonard Fournette, PPR? Clyde.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I'll go Fournette. Clyde Edwards-Ziller or 49ers starting running back? Clyde. Clyde. Okay. I think that pretty much concludes. Oh, Jalen Hurts is fifth for Jamie, sixth for Heath, 11th for Dave.
Starting point is 00:59:04 So he's a starter. I don't know why Dave has him 11th. Not saying he's wrong. I'm guessing because if you just heard our recap podcast on Tuesday, Dave seemed a little more worried about Hurts than Jamie was. Okay, get back on track. Jalen Hurts. Houston at Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Stat of the game. So look, it's all about Brandon Cooks for Houston. So far, no wide receiver has more than 62 yards against the Bills. Five wide receivers have had 7 to 10 targets, and none of them have had more than 62 yards. Now, Cooks has gotten a lot more than 7 to 10 targets the last two weeks,
Starting point is 00:59:39 but this is a very, very tough matchup. So, Jamie, start or sit Brandon Cooks? I'm still starting. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. It, very tough matchup. So, Jamie, start or sit Brandon Cooks? I'm still starting. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. It is a tough matchup. I'm going to guess he sees a lot of Tredavious White, but I think volume will matter here. Garbage time will matter here.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And it's just too difficult to get away from him until I see a bad performance yet. And so I'm going to stick with him one more week as a number two receiver. And there have been a lot of wide receivers that have scored 10-ish PPR points without a touchdown. So if Cooks does what they did and just scores a touchdown, then he'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Touchdown's going to be tough. This obviously could get out of hand. I'm sure Cooks is the only Texan that you're considering here. And Josh Allen is either one or two for everybody. So let's talk about the Buffalo running backs. Which one do you prefer, and are they worth starting this week, Heath? I don't want to start either of them because I don't feel a great deal of confidence
Starting point is 01:00:35 about who's going to get the most carries this week. But I do think if Zach Moss has a bigger role again in week four, then we can start to feel confident in him as a low-end number two high-end flex. Jamie, if you're looking at, say, the Broncos running backs against Baltimore and the Bills. Moss, okay. I like Moss this week, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I mean, I think you've seen now he's their goal line guy in a game that they're going to be favored, so I think he has an opportunity to score. They used him more in the passing game last week. He's got more playing time last week. So whatever the punishment or injury that he was dealing with in week one, he's responded, and I think responded well. They used him more in the passing game last week. He's got more playing time last week. Whatever the punishment or injury that he was dealing with in week one, he's responded, and I think responded well.
Starting point is 01:01:12 To me, Singletary is the type of running back that stinks. A guy between the 20s that doesn't have a huge role in the passing game. I would try to avoid him. Would you start Corey Davis or Zach Moss? I would start Zach Moss. I'd start Zach Moss over Fournette. Over Fournette? Okay. Corey Davis, Heath? I would start Zach Moss. I'd start Zach Moss over Fournette. Over Fournette? Okay. Corey Davis, Heath?
Starting point is 01:01:28 I would start Davis, yeah. Yeah. We've got to talk about somebody in that Jets-Titans game. That's coming up next. Buffalo wide receivers. Stefan Diggs is a start. Who's your second favorite Bills wide receiver? Beasley.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Beasley and PPR, Sanders and Nunn. Beasley, Sanders, Zach Moss. Who's your fave? Moss. Beasley, Moss, Sanders, and Nunn. Beasley, Sanders, Zach Moss. Who's your fave? Moss. Beasley, Moss, Sanders. Gets the heart emoji. Dawson Knox is like 20th. Not buying into it yet.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Texans have been really bad against tight ends. They give up the fifth most fantasy points to tight ends. Nobody's had an enormous game, but they, you know, O'Shaughnessy had 48 yards. Harrison Bryant had 49. Tommy Tremble scored a rushing touchdown. Chris Manhurts caught a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I can't really sit here and tell you to start Dawson Knox. But you should start the Bills DST. They are number one across the board. Did you do a stat of the game for this one? No. Yes, I did. I have a stat of the game for this one? No. Yes, I did. I have a stat of the game for this one. No wide receiver of more than 62 yards against Buffalo. Oh, dang it. What is it? Excluding Trey Lance
Starting point is 01:02:34 because he's only thrown one pass, Davis Mills leads this class of rookie quarterbacks in quarterback rating, touchdown percentage, and interception percentage so far this season. That's horrible. That's really bad. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Not good. All right, Colts and Dolphins. Let's say the Dolphins have had a pretty tough schedule so far. They have faced three teams that are top 10 in yards per play allowed. Buffalo, New England, and Las Vegas. And they faced two of them with their backup quarterback. The Colts, fifth most yards per play. And here's your stat of the game. Yards per catch is weird in this game. The Colts allow the most yards per catch to wide receivers. The Dolphins, the fourth most. And I'm pretty sure the Dolphins were worst,
Starting point is 01:03:22 last in that category in 2020. I don't know what that is. The Colts absolutely suck against wide receivers. I don't know. Do we know what Xavier Rhodes' status is? Did he practice? We got to keep an eye on that. They got a very beat up secondary. We'll come back to that in a little bit with Waddle and all that.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Let's start with the Colts running backs. We're sitting Carson Wentz. Jonathan Taylor, Naeem Hines, Jamie, break it down. Big games, you know, average games, must starts. What do you think about Taylor and Hines? I think you're starting Taylor, but I don't think it's a slam dunk number one running back anymore. I think he's more of an in the number two range after what we've seen and probably more than number two range. A lot of people's minds for his production so far.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Non-football related. It's it's been It's been frustrating. And no Quentin Nelson is going to be hard for him. But this run defense from Miami, the problem is that what we've seen from them is when they've been on the field so much is they've been tired. So I think that's what helped Peyton Barber. It helped Zach Moss with the touchdowns. They had a lot of short fields against Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:04:20 So I'd be a little bit nervous about John Taylor, so I'm going to play him in daily. Naheem Hines, I hope it's not the roller coaster of one good game, one bad game, one good game, one bad game, and that's what we have so far through three. But the Dolphins, I think, are top seven in most receptions allowed to running back. They're one of seven teams that have allowed 20-plus receptions to running backs. And so that's where Hines, I think, is going to have to benefit. So in PPR, he's an okay flex play, but not again. A slam
Starting point is 01:04:46 dunk either way. I just hate the Colts across the board in this game because I do think that Michael Pittman's going to struggle with the secondary, so he may get his targets up, but this is a get-right game for the Dolphins. They have allowed 16 to 18 PPR
Starting point is 01:05:01 fantasy points to a wide receiver in every game, and they were Aguilar,ilar digs and Renfro. Do you think Pittman Pittman can get there? And I mentioned they're not good at yards per catch. Now you don't think so. 16 PPR. Okay. Heath,
Starting point is 01:05:15 are you excited about Taylor this week? Heath, Jamie's not super excited about anyone. I think I am more excited about the Colts across the board. Um, then Jamie, but like, I'm just, you're starting Jonathan Taylor. I don't know that we really need to discuss. I think I am more excited about the Colts across the board than Jamie. But you're starting Jonathan Taylor. I don't know that we really need to discuss it that much.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Sure. Man, the way Pittman's got targets the past couple of weeks, I'm probably just going to start him. I mean, the Colts haven't exactly had the easiest start to the year with Russell Wilson and the world-beater Rams. Now, they laid an egg against the Titans last week, but I, I'm not sure who it's more likely to be a get right game for the Colts or
Starting point is 01:05:51 the dolphins. I thought coming into the year, the Colts were better than the dolphins. I think Jacoby percent is really not, not good. Sorry. I would have said if the Colts are healthy, they're better than dolphins too.
Starting point is 01:06:01 They're just not healthy, but they're healthy at quarterback, you know, the dog, well, they're healthy ish at quarterback. This is play the Colts are healthy, they're better than the Dolphins too. They're just not healthy. But they're healthy at quarterback. Well, they're healthy-ish at quarterback. I don't think this is play the under. I mean, this isn't a high-scoring game for Miami. I don't mean get-right game for the Dolphins from an offense perspective. I think just from a team perspective.
Starting point is 01:06:14 They get a win in this game. Bonanza. All right, Sipraset. Please, this would be a great place to use it. Miles Gaskin or Clyde Eberts either. Clyde. I'll go Gaskin or Clyde Eberts either. Clyde. I'll go Gaskin and PPR. Miles Gaskin or Naeem Hines.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Gaskin. Gaskin. Miles Gaskin or Jalen Waddle and his like seven yards per catch. 7.6. Gaskin, but Waddle, I think, is still worth playing. Yeah, they're both good. Okay. Flexious, you guys.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Waddle or... Hold on. Waddle or... Wait, damn it. Pitman! Pitman. Waddle all right not starting parker fuller if he plays no no if you want to hear about mike isicky please rewind to the 60 second rankings disputes and i'm sorry to save this one for last tennessee is at the jets
Starting point is 01:07:20 underrated stat of the game. Tony at the Jets. Michael Carter had seven more touches than Ty Johnson in week three. So I know it doesn't really matter, but it seems like every week he's taking a little bit more of that running back role. Make sure he's not been dropped in your leagues. I found him on the waiver wire in a couple of places. I still think he's a good stash. I'll check his roster percentage.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Okay, are we starting any Tennessee... Are we starting anyone in this game other than Derrick Henry? In this game? Yeah, Corey Davis, number three receiver. And if Julio plays, I would start Julio as a number three receiver. Yes. Yeah, no, right. Obviously, if A.J. Brown miraculously or Julio plays, I would start Julio as a number three receiver. Yeah, right. Obviously,
Starting point is 01:08:06 if A.J. Brown miraculously or Julio Jones plays, you start them. But assuming they are out, I was surprised that you guys have Tannehill where you have him. We don't have Julio ranked out. I haven't adjusted my rankings since Tuesday night either, so there'll be a dropping of
Starting point is 01:08:22 Ryan Tannehill. Michael Carter, by the way, 78% rostered, so keep an eye on that. Corey Davis, Michael Pittman, Jalen Waddell, who's the best of that group? Waddell and PPR, Davis none. Pittman. Pittman.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Anything else? I asked you this an hour ago, but in in case people have forgotten take a flyer on a titans wide receiver who would it be jay i just want to hear you pronounce the name that's all oh uh nick westbrook that's what he is in our database akina matata akita matata all right Jets actually, they see the second fewest wide receiver targets in the NFL. Teams are not really throwing a lot on the Jets. I'm sure that'll change with the Titans. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I mean, this is like just made for, there he is, Nick Westbrook. Sure, we'll keep it at that. All right, you know how this game is going to play out. Tennessee's DST. Tennessee's DST, they are 74% rostered now, but they have the Jets this week, and then they have the Jaguars next week. So you might be able to keep them for two weeks, and they are top.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Oh, wait a second. Let me see. Is this ranking still right for Tennessee's DST? Let me just refresh the rankings page. They are 4th for Jamie, 3rd for Dave, and 24th for Heath. They're really bad.
Starting point is 01:09:47 They are. That's true. You going to keep them there, 24th? They will not be in my top 12. So they might move up to 15th if that would make you feel better. It would. Will you do that for me?
Starting point is 01:10:02 All right, everybody. We're out of here. That's Starter Sit for the AFC home games. We'll have seven NFC home games and a recap of the Jaguars and the Bengals. Who covers? Let me get the spread. 16th.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Seven and a half. Oh, thank you, Heath. Seven and a half Bengals. Who covers? Bengals. The Bengals and the under. 46 is the under. Bengals and the under. 46 is the under. Bengals and the under.
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