Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Burrow, Achane, Dell and More (09/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts We've got a Thursday night running back injury update to start the show as Aaron Jones will play. We also discuss the Lions RBs under the assumption that David Montgomery is OUT, but Montgomery is, in fact, going to play on Thursday. We correct that and update the Lions backfield later in the show (1:06:50) ... Players we love (5:10) and players to avoid (9:25). Justin Fields is the Start of the Week! We also have rankings disputes (14:30) on George Pickens and Garrett Wilson, a lot of news and notes (20:46) and One Question for Each Game (25:10). Do the Jaguars get going offensively? Are we ready to trust Kyren Williams again? Anthony Richardson? ... Start or Sit for Falcons-Jaguars (36:05), Bengals-Titans (41:43), Dolphins-Bills (47:50), Ravens-Browns (53:50), Rams-Colts (1:00:50), Steelers-Texans (1:08:30), Raiders-Chargers (1:14:00) and Chiefs-Jets (1:17:50) ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's get into week four, everybody. Welcome to the show. It is Fantasy Football Today. On a Thursday morning here, we got some big injury updates for Thursday Night Football. And we've got starter sit for eight AFC home games. Today we will preview Atlanta at Jacksonville, Cincinnati at Tennessee, Miami at Buffalo, Baltimore at Cleveland, the Rams at the Colts, Pittsburgh at Houston, Las Vegas at the Chargers, and Kansas City at the New York Jets.

Nervous, Heath, for that game? Yeah, I am. It's going to be really strange having Taylor Swift in a different NFL stadium. I just wonder, is she going to follow the team around for the rest of the season? This is pretty exciting stuff. Yeah, it's so exciting that it's on Sunday Night Football, which is disappointing, I guess. But maybe the Jets will give them a game.

So anyway, we've got a pretty risky start of the week, I think. But good for Jamie for going out on a limb. We'll get to that in a second here. But Thursday night injury updates, guys. Aaron Jones and Christian Watson are expected to play. But David Montgomery and left tackle Taylor Decker for the Lions, that's who they are, they are not expected to play. So that means Jones and Watson in a beat-up offensive line for the Lions

and no David Montgomery as of now. And defensively, cornerback Jair Alexander for the Packers. He's not expected to play. And cornerback Emmanuel Mosley for the Lions is expected to play. But now as we look at this, let's go Jameer Gibbs versus Aaron Jones. Who do you guys like better?

Well, part of the report from the NFL Network was that Jones and Watson will be limited but playing. So I don't like that. I probably would, if I had to make the choice, I probably would still start Aaron Jones,

but I mean, look, they gave Gibbs the work we wanted to see last week. And we know that this Packers run defense for the most part under Matt LaFleur has been bad. So I just wish that they threw in the ball a little bit more last week in terms of Gibbs. Like it was almost like they were going to make you our running downs guy and that was it. So

I would probably lean toward Jones still, but it wouldn't surprise me if Gibbs is better. I'm very hopeful and I don't have any reason to believe this will happen, but I'm very hopeful that it's more Craig Reynolds carries and more Jameer Gibbs targets this week because maybe they thought Montgomery was going to play, so they kind of readjusted the game plan to go back to that dispersion of touches, and maybe we'll just get a few more Craig Grohl. I'm just hoping because I don't think the path for Jameer Gibbs delivering on what we wanted

was 17 carries and two targets per game. No. You tell me he's getting 17 carries, though I think I'd start him, but I'd like more than two targets, certainly. I'm still starting him. I think the question was just if you have both those guys. If you drafted

Gibbs and Jones in rounds three and four back-to-back in some order, and you have somebody else that's better, then I can understand that. But I think in a vacuum, I'm still starting Gibbs. But you're starting jones over him and and heath how about you i would lean jones i'm i'm a little bit nervous about jones more nervous about watson though that's one where i'm just trying to stay away i mean he he is the kind of

guy who could just make your day with one play but But I would prefer to see it first with him. And I think for Jones, I think Keith alluded to this on Wednesday's show, that him being limited could be limited as a rusher and still deployed as a receiver. And that might still be what you want from Aaron Jones, is those targets and opportunities in the passing. Aaron Jones, Jameerah Gibbs, Raheem Mostert.

Who's the best one there? Mostert. Oh, Mostert, yeah. Aaron Jones, Jameer Gibbs, or Devon Achan. Who's the best one there? I'll go Jones. Yep. Then Gibbs, then Achan?

Yeah, but a good one would be Zach Moss and those two guys. And Kyron Williams. Moss over those guys. You take Moss over them? You'd take Moss over them? I would take Moss over them. I would take both of them probably over Kyron just because I think the matchup's a little tough for Williams.

Okay. All right, and then Christian Watson, try to avoid if you can. Josh Palmer or Christian Watson? Palmer for me. Palmer, yeah. Okay, and Palmer's somewhere around around 36 in the rankings for these guys so that should give you an idea the thing that the thing that watson at less than 100

makes it tough is how much do you play romeo dobbs or jayden reed depending on what size league you're in uh we have a comment here a chain it's a chain adam no it isn't it is a chan uh we thought it was a chain then he corrected everyone and said actually actually, it's A-Chan. Even though I think the Dolphins media guide said it was A-Chan. But in case you missed it, it is A-Chan, which is why I keep saying it like that. Okay, let's get to our players we love and players to avoid. Jamie, let's see. We had Tua in week one.

We had Goff in week two. We had Mostert in week three. We've delivered this week. who is the start of the week uh it's justin fields and you know it's it's tough player to back at this point obviously because he's been not just you know underwhelming from a statistical standpoint he's looked bad but i think the matchup is the biggest reason why i would buy into uh justin fields and look it may seem like i'm chasing a team that just gave up 70 points, which I'm partially doing.

I'm chasing a team that just gave up 70 points. But you look at the quarterbacks who performed against them. Jimmy Garoppolo, not his best statistical game, but his best game. Sam Howell, his best game by far. And Tua continuing just to play well, but also having a strong game.

They made quarterbacks look good. And so it's, it's been a little bit of a different variety because most of it has come through the air, but Justin Fields at home, you go back to his last five home games. That's including the game against green Bay to start the season. He's been back to back road games, averaging just shy of 24 points per game in his last five. Uh, I don't trust this Broncos defense as a whole to begin with, especially as we saw they couldn't tackle anybody from the Dolphins perspective. So I think this is a game that Bears could actually win. You know, they're three-point underdogs, so I wouldn't necessarily bank on it, but it's a bad Broncos team that's back-to-back road games after just getting their butts kicked.

So I think this is a chance for Fields to have not his best game, but certainly to look more like the guy we saw last year. And I think he will be a top 10 quarterback for this week. So his legs will matter. I think he won't be as lost throwing the ball. And I think this is a game that the Bears will be competitive in. And for tonight, you have Jordan Love ahead of Fields, but you have Fields ahead of Goff, way ahead of Goff. Yeah, I think I was checking because I like to see

where Heath and Dave are on whenever I do the start of the week and also comparing it to our projections. So our projections have Justin Fields high tie and for what it's worth sports line has been typically ahead of my start of the week like they were i think fourth on golf two weeks ago um and they were right there with i think most are dave might have been the highest guy most are uh they like fields as a top five quarterback for this week or top seven maybe it was what it is um but like i i the one i was gonna say the one thing that i have different is i have fields over Fields is a top five quarterback for this week, or top seven maybe is what it is. But the one thing that I have different is I have Fields over Russell Wilson, for example. I know both guys like Wilson over Fields, and I totally understand that.

They like Wilson. You like Wilson over Fields, Heath? Yeah. Okay. All right, we'll get to that game tomorrow. Heath, who do you love this week? Anthony Richardson. He's back.

He's back. He played back. He's played five quarters of football, basically. 13 rushes, 75 yards, three touchdowns. Absolutely love it. Cheat code. And the thing is, he's doing it not necessarily in the way that Jalen Hurts his first year or Lamar

Jackson his first year or Justin Fields his first year, doing it without passing. They still have a 60% pass rate when he's been on the field, 61% pass rate when he's been on the field. He's going to throw for 200 yards and he's going to run for 60 to 75 yards and a touchdown. Must start quarterback. I would start him ahead of both Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow. Jamie, how do you feel about that? Do you like Richardson better than Fields? I have them back-to-back,

and I have one league where I have to make that decision, so I'm going to trust my start of the week and go with Fields. But they're very similar. I mean, look, the Rams have done a great job against quarterbacks so far. They haven't faced one like this. But they've limited production from that position.

And I do wonder, and this is not a reason to stay away from starting Anthony Richardson, just might depend on who you have to compare him to. Will they allow him the design runs coming off a concussion? You know, will they make him more of a passer and try and be a little bit more conservative? So I just wonder about that a little bit.

Yeah. The Rams actually pretty, I mean, this is not so relevant for Richardson, but just an aside, they've been really good against wide receivers. I mean, Jamar Chase, the only wide receiver has done well against them. They faced the Seahawks, the 49ers and the, and the Bengals.

And this is a team that was supposed to have the worst secondary, maybe in football, but didn't put kind of impressed with how they've held up so far a player to avoid Heath. Who are we avoiding this week? Can I just stay at quarterback? Sure. And say Joe Burrow. I know it's a great matchup and it might look silly because Tennessee's

secondary is just that bad, but I just, I don't trust this offense right now. And I thought it was pretty silly. Like when they were getting booed by the home fans, like your quarterback is doing everything he can to keep this season alive. He's got nothing right now. And he made a couple of good throws, but he can't move at all.

Those 10 rushing touchdowns, he had the first three seasons in the NFL. You're not getting any of those for the next few weeks. I don't trust it at all. He's not a top 15 quarterback for me this week. Okay, Joe Burrow. If only, if it just be so easy, if he didn't have to play the Titans, you know, if just, it's the Titans, you know,

it makes people scratch their heads. No, I get it. Yeah, and Jamie, who are you avoiding? It's very difficult to do, but I'll stay in the same game. I would like to avoid Joe Mixon. Again, it's tough to bench somebody who's going to get that much work and has been so productive, but this'll stay in the same game. I would like to avoid Joe Mixon. Again, it's tough to bench somebody who's going to get that much work and has been so productive, but this Titans defense is just so good against the run. And, you know, you take away the touchdown for Mixon last week,

it was a miserable stat line. I was surprised he wasn't more involved in the passing game. That was something we saw in the first two games, but it's, it's a pass funnel, uh, for, for the wide receivers, you know, and we saw that they'll just get to the red zone, kick their field goals, try and limit the game and get their win. It feels like that's what the Bengals are going to do. So I don't think Joe Burrow's having necessarily a huge game because Joe Mixon is not, but this feels like it could be a low scoring affair. And if Mixon does not score, I think he's going to be in trouble. So still a number two running back, but all the guys that we mentioned, Zach Moss, A-Chan, I would start those both both those guys over him karen williams i start over him

uh both guys in the thursday night game the healthy ones i would start over him not not aj dylan um but yeah i don't i don't love uh joe mixon this week okay and there was a there i want to go back to the joe burrow for just a second because there was a comment in the chat about how much of a positive it is that burrow's not taking sacks this year and giving credit to Orlando Brown for that. I think it's more about the fact that he can't move, and so they're designing everything. He has the lowest ADOT of his career.

He has the lowest amount of time in the pocket of his career. It would be better if he could hold onto the ball a little bit longer and throw the ball deep to Higgins and chase. I believe. Does it matter all that he practiced in full Joe Burrow? Does that change? It certainly matters.

But again, how much of him practicing in full is him being healthy? Well, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't know either. Yeah.

I don't know. He just, he just played a game. So they, they may feel like, okay, we're going to do our due diligence and list them as a full participant. They didn't even practice.

Did they? I don't know. They probably not. Yeah. Okay. Forget that. They probably didn't even practice. I think,

I think if I saw correctly, it was, he took parking part in the walkthrough. All right. Cause they played on Monday. I can't imagine. I don't, I don't know what happened there.

Forget it. Look, there's no way Joe Burrow's calf has just healed at this point. What Aaron Rodgers said about Joe Burrow and I guess Rodgers has been helping him because Rodgers was dealing with a calf injury and he said, you don't even realize how much pain Joe Burrow was in that night. I mean, that

was pretty eye-opening to me. It's pretty serious, you know, and good for him for gutting it out. All right. We've got a live stream tonight. I'm going to address my cough in a second, by the way. I have an update for all of you, but we have a live stream tonight. If you need some starter sit advice, youtube.com slash fantasy football today, 7 30 PM Eastern youtube.com slash fantasy football today. It's exclusive to YouTube. I'm sure it's pretty annoying for all of you to have to listen to me

cough all the time. Uh, I am moving to a new place, so I had to move my, I have a new setup here at my old place. It was my last night in my house, which is really weird after eight years, but my mixer's kind of far away, so I can't reach the cough button as easily, but anyway, I did go to the doctor yesterday. I know some people were concerned. I appreciate that. It's just a bad cough. I have prescription medicine now, so it should be going away. I tore a muscle in my rib cage from coughing so hard. I'm in a ton of pain there. But the cough, hopefully. So I shouldn't make you laugh by saying you had a muscle in your rib cage?

Apparently. I had one. But it was so weak that I coughed it to death basically but i think uh for for our truly loyal listeners and anybody listening today uh they should go back when they don't have any responsibilities and play a drinking game of every time adam coughs take a shot every time i cough on the air if you every time i do mute it about 80 of the time so it would be a bad idea if you every time i cough took a drink but anyway i'm sorry. So it would be a bad idea if you, every time I cough, took a drink. But anyway, I'm sorry.

I know it must be really annoying for you, and I apologize. So let's have to listen to this. But you know what? Just like the Bengals fans, everybody should just be thankful that you, like Joe Burrow, are gutting it out. Gutting it out, yeah. You know? Right, and my guts are coming out. Good word.

You are basically Joe Burrow. Thank you. I appreciate that. This is my flu game. Anyway, let's do something. So we shouldn't be ribbing you. Good job. Rankings disputes here. George Pickens and Garrett Wilson. Unless the rankings have changed, Heath is much higher on George Pickens and Garrett Wilson than Jamie and Dave are, especially Pickens. So let's start with George Pickens as they are at Houston. The Steelers are at Houston this week and Pickens. So let's start with George Pickens as they are at Houston.

The Steelers are at Houston this week and Pickens is 14th for you in PPR. He's ninth and non PPR. You can let me know if that changed outside the top 30 for Jamie and Dave inside the top 36, but you are the high guy on Pickens this week. Yeah. I just, I love the fact that the last two weeks without Deontay Johnson,

the Steelers are treating him like a real wide receiver and not like Brashad Perryman. He's running slants. His ADOT is below 10. His target share is up around 25% in the last two games. I, I know the Texans thing with the passing game versus the run game, but I'm not certain that the Steelers can run the ball well enough

to take advantage of that. And so I really think that Pickens has top five upside on a weekly basis until Deontay Johnson's out. All right, Jamie, make the case against Pickens. Why is he outside your top 30? I don't really have a case to be made against him for the upside part because the upside part is definitely there but we saw what I think a normal stat line for George Pickens could be when he

doesn't get a 71 yard touchdown which is four for 75 which is fine but to me that's a number three receiver when he's only getting six targets so we have a two game sample size one game he had 10 targets one game he had six both those games I think it was four catches so he's going to be still an inconsistent wide receiver I still buy into the Texans secondary. I know they're still banged up a little bit, but I still buy into it as we saw two weeks ago or last, excuse me, as they, uh, you know, for the most part contained the number one guy there in Calvin Ridley. Um, so yeah, there there's, I I'll say this again until we get to the bi-weeks there's, you know, 30 to 36 good number two wide receivers,

and he's in that mix depending on who you have. But there are just some other guys I like better. So a six-target, four-catch game without a touchdown, that's kind of where I view George Pickens this week. All right, we'll go to Garrett Wilson here. Garrett Wilson, not as big of a dispute, but Heath, you are the high guy on Wilson. 26th. Yes, timeout.

Comment here in the chat from Matt Walters. Time out. Didn't Jamie just say he only wears a hat on Wednesdays? What's going on today? He showed up and I was like, oh, look at that, the guy with the hat. No, I only wear them on Wednesdays, Adam. Why are you wearing a hat today, Mr. Lying about hats on days

guy? Yeah, I realized that. I'm actually going straight from the show to get a haircut. Somebody tweeted at me yesterday, like, why do you only wear hats on Wednesdays? I don't have any on-camera commitments on Wednesdays, so I just wake up, throw a hat on, I'm good. Or shower and throw a hat on. And today I'm going to get a haircut, so that's why. Yeah.

I really think everyone should shower at night before going to bed rather than in the morning. Don't get in the bed dirty. It's your bed. Keep it clean. You know, but all right. PSA. Garrett Wilson, Heath. Go ahead.

Go ahead. No. I'm not going to make any comments about clean or dirty beds. Okay. Garrett Wilson, you like enough to be in your top 30. Yeah, I do. I like him enough to be in the top 30. That have a hard time betting against that talent. I think Wilson showed it to us in week one. He can take a bad pass and turn it into eight fantasy points.

All right, Jamie, you were saying sit Garrett Wilson. You have him 39th-ish, something like that. Yeah, I mean, I've seen enough of Zach Wilson to know that he's got lucky in two of the first three games. And you saw what the downside is with Zach Wilson to know that he's got lucky in the first two of the first three games. And you saw what the downside is with Zach Wilson last week. And I think that's what we're going to see more of the norm. So the touchdown was more about his athleticism in week two against Dallas. The one in week one, like he said, he can certainly get you a score if he's playing defense on a poorly thrown pass, like we saw in the game against Buffalo.

But I do think that it's not so much about the Chiefs' secondary. I think it's more just about Zach Wilson under duress every time he drops back to pass. And Garrett Wilson's the guy they're going to take away. So I don't want to trust him. The only thing I would feel comfortable with Zach Wilson at this point, if you tell me, with Garrett Wilson, is that if Zach Wilson's struggling, they're benching him at halftime.

But, you know, this is, by the way, this is the last game I was planning to talk about, so you were going to have to wait another hour or so to hear about Garrett Wilson, so I'm glad we got this in. But, Jamie, you usually like the squeaky wheel, and he's a little squeaky right now. He's a lot squeaky. Yeah, he's squeaky, but this is, I think, and Jamie, you said

this is, I think, about the secondary because I think LeJarius Sneed is going to cover him a lot, and Sneed's having a great start to the year. We'll see. DJ Moore scored a touchdown last week, but it was garbage time, and it was not against LeJarius Sneed. He shut down Calvin Ridley in week two,

so we'll see. I mean, look, it's probably not worth talking too much more because it's not a huge endorsement for Wilson. But go ahead, Heath. You can finish up. No, I just think he's wide receiver 30 in the season right now. He's going to get eight or nine targets. That probably, like last week,

he had 9.8 fantasy points without a touchdown. He's probably in that 10 range if he doesn't score, and he's in the 16 to 18 range if he does. All right. Schedule alert. Just real quick here. If you want a Chiefs wide receiver, if you believe in one of them,

after they faced the Jets this week, I was just looking at their schedule, the Chiefs faced four straight opponents that ranked 27th or worse in fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. The Vikings, the Broncos, the Chargers, and then the Broncos again. That's coming up for Patrick Mahomes and for the Chiefs wide receivers. The Vikings, the Broncos, the Chargers, and then the Broncos again. That's coming up for Patrick Mahomes and for the Chiefs

wide receivers. Maybe you stash Rishi Rice or something like that and you cross your fingers. By the way, who's the leading receiver on the Chiefs right now? Catches, yards, fantasy points. What do you want to know? Yards. Yeah, he's got it. Rice? Justin Watson. Justin Watson. Been about 50

yards every game. News and notes. Let's fly through this here. Anthony Richardson is still in the concussion protocol, but he did practice, and you already heard Heath loves him. Jamie likes him, too, so we're expecting Richardson to play. Also, it looks like Bryce Young is going to play, so we might not get that Andy Dalton revenge game.

We'll keep an eye on that. But would you start, knowing that Young might play But would you start knowing that young might play? Would you start Adam Thielen or Christian Watson tonight? Still feel feeling. Okay. Jimmy Garoppolo remains in the concussion protocol, but hasn't been ruled out. Derek Carr seems unlikely to play against Tampa Bay.

David Montgomery likely out. Aaron Jones likely in Austin Eckler was at practice. That's a good sign. Remember, they have a bye next week, so it wouldn't be a surprise to see Eckler sit again, and then we could talk about Josh Kelly, which will be fun. Jerome Ford and Kareem Hunt were both limited. They should play.

Cam Akers is going to be active this week for Minnesota. They're at Carolina. And Gus Edwards is in the concussion protocol, but he was present at practice on Wednesday. At wide receiver, looks like Jalen Waddell is going to play. He's trending in the right direction. He practiced. Deebo Samuel and Jawan Jennings missed practice, but Brandon Ayuk was limited.

Christian Watson, I think you already know that. He's expected to play. Rashad Bateman and Odo Beckham missed practice. Jerry Judy was limited. Damn it. With a knee injury. Cooper Cup could be back next week.

Cross our fingers there. Did you see what McVay said? No. I think so. What did he say? He said there's a difference between return to performance and return to play, and we want him to return to performance. Right.

So that means they could be cautious with him. They have 21 days once he's activated. Yeah. Tyler Higbee was estimated to miss practice. They did not have a full practice. They did not have a real practice because they played on monday on the offensive line some big ones other than the thursday night guys uh good news for the ravens tyler linderbaum and ronnie stanley were both limited in practice it doesn't mean they'll play but they need those guys against the number one defense in football right now the cle Cleveland Browns. Laramie Tunsell did not practice.

Houston's left tackle. Guard Cesar Ruiz for the Saints is still on the concussion protocol, and the Colts got good news with Quinton Nelson. Oh, no, Quinton Nelson mispracticed, but Ryan Kelly, their center, did practice. And big defensive injuries to monitor. The Saints' defensive backfield is still a little beat up

with Paulson Adebo and Jordan Howden missing practice. DeForest Buckner, a very good run stopper for the Colts. He missed practice. They faced the Rams, so we'll keep an eye on that. The Bills are pretty beat up on defense right now. It might have been just rest days for the veterans. We'll see what their Thursday

report is. Dolphins' edge rusher Jalen Phillips missed practice. The Bears are beat up in the secondary with Eddie Jackson and Jalen Johnson missing practice. Baltimore's got some good news and bad news in their secondary, but still pretty thin there. Houston safety Jalen Petrie was limited in practice. Tampa Bay linebacker Devin White missed practice with a football injury. So that's a big one for Kamara if Devin White is out. Pittsburgh defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi mispracticed,

but he did that Wednesday and Thursday last week, so I expect him to play. And here's a big one for the Chargers. Derwin James, their star safety, he left with a hamstring injury on Sunday. He missed the first practice of the week. We'll keep an eye on Derwin James. We'll take a break.

When we come back, I'll take more cough medicine, and we have one question for each game, and we'll start previewing everything. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic. A quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime, financial penalties, and keep you safe. Don't let avoidable damage cost you time and money. Click before you dig. Ensure your next project is safe. Visit OntarioOneCall.ca.

It's free. It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. One question for each game, except some games where I ask multiple questions. But here for Atlanta at Jacksonville, are you starting or sitting Drake London and Kyle Pitts? London and

London? How do you sit them? Of course you got it. I would sit both if you can. I'll sit London and start Pitts. And the Pitts thing is not so much that I'm confident in him. We got two rookie tight ends tonight.

Are you starting them over Pitts? Yes. I'm starting Laporta over him. I'm not starting Musgrave. I'd like to see that Musgrave target share with Christian Watson back. But Musgrave's a top 12 tight end just behind Pitts. Drake London or Christian Watson? Watson.

Oh. Watson. All. Watson. All right, Cincinnati's at Tennessee. We already alluded to this, but how much faith do you have in the Cincinnati passing game? I would expect something similar to what you saw Monday night. A lot of targets for Chase. He'll be fine.

Higgins will get his targets. Hopefully he breaks one for a touchdown. And Burrow, you would try and bench if you can. Yeah. Start Chase without question. Higgins, borderline number two. Burrow, QB two.

Miami at Buffalo. Rank the running backs. Mostert Cook, HM. Yep. Murray, Harris. Now, running backs? Mostert Cook, HM. Yep. Murray Harris. Now, I want to give a stat. This was my stat of the game,

but just to get to it, because I think the Dolphins running backs are definitely one of the most topical things right now in fantasy. Miami running back carries in three games. 18, 22, 42. They won by two points in week one, maybe three. They won by seven points in week two. They won by 50 points in week three.

So they're not a team that ran the ball a ton in weeks one or two. They obviously ran the ball a ton in week three. So I was a little surprised to see Raheem Mostert so high in your rankings. I think he's top eight for all of you. You can see my obvious concern here. And I'm not saying to sit him. I have a lot of Mostert and I'm starting him. But my concern is they're not going to run the ball nearly as much in a game that they might lose, but it's going to be competitive. And he's going to split with A-chan. So I was surprised. You guys want to talk about why you're so confident in Raheem Mostert to have him ranked? Gosh, I don't know. Let's see where he is in consensus. He's fifth in consensus.

So go ahead, Heath. You want the first word there on Mostert? Yeah, I might be the low guy on him at eight, but that's not low. So I'll go ahead and I might be at seven even. I mean, part of it is the fact that James Cook's at nine or ten. It's not like we have a great deal of confidence in a lot of the running backs, and Mostert has as much upside as anyone not named Devin Achan. So this Bills run defense is really interesting because I can't remember who I saw this from,

but they have a very high stuff rate and also a very high big play rate. In other words, they're okay at the line of scrimmage, but if you get past the line of scrimmage, you might take it to the house. And that's kind of what this Dolphins offense is set up to do. So I like the chance of Mostert getting loose for at least one big play. And Jamie?

I mean, we have him fifth consensus. That's lower than what his performance has been for the season. You know? So he's, he's a guy that's getting work in an offense. That's explosive. And for what the bills have done, they haven't faced an offense like this yet.

You know? So, you know, they're coming off back to back games where they shut down the Raiders and the commanders. You know, this is arguably again, the best offense in football right now.

So with what he did in the passing game, that's still there if they're trailing. I don't know. I think he still has the most touchdown upside of the two guys there as much as they used a chance early in the game to score. So I don't want to just necessarily say this is going to be a 50, 50 timeshare. Like you said, you know, he's still sharing with HN.

Yes. He's going to share with him, but to what extent, you know, so really the, the one that I struggle with more is, is HN ranked too high because did a lot of what he accomplished come just against a really bad defense,

you know? And so this is a huge game. I mean, let's, let's, you know, I know you don't want to say seasons are, say seasons are decided in week four, and that's not the case, but it's pretty clear.

These are the two teams in this division, and these are the two teams that are going to be competing with the Chiefs and who knows who else, Ravens, Bengals, you know, whichever other team you want to say in the AFC. I'm sure I'm discounting somebody, but This could be a home field advantage type of game. I don't see them getting away from Mostert in this type of matchup. This is...

I've got a different stat of the game for you, Adam, that I think you will love. Oh, let's hear it. The Dolphins are the third straight team to play Denver one week and the Bills next week. That's so weird.

That is really weird. It hasn't gone well for the other teams, right? What's that? It hasn't gone well for the other teams, right? No, no.

Both of the other teams beat the Broncos. Washington put up 35 on the Broncos and both of the teams, I think combined for 13 against the bills. That's awesome. Uh, the other team is the Raiders, right? Yep. Raiders, Washington dolphins.ills. That's awesome. The other team is the Raiders, right? Yep.

Raiders, Washington, Dolphins. Wow, that's weird. How the hell am I going to get this game in tomorrow for Game of the Week on Dave? We'll brainstorm, Jamie, because this is definitely the Game of the Week. I think you just ask him, say something like,

Jamie and Heath were split on the running backs. Yeah. How do you come out on Mostert, A-chan? Yeah, you could compare just about any running back say something like Jamie and Heath were split on the running backs. Yeah. How do you come out on Mostert, A-chan? Yeah, all right. Yeah, you could compare just about any running back to a Mostert or A-chan and get into it. All right, Baltimore is at Cleveland. Starter sit Zay Flowers and his teeny tiny little A-dot.

I mean, if the other two guys are out in terms of Bateman and Beckham, I think you just got to treat Flowers as an every week number three wide receiver. So in a three receiver league, you're starting him. And then in a two receiver league, like I know Heath, for example, would go with Pickens over Flowers. I would take Flowers over Pickens,

but it just comes down to those type of decisions. So the questionable number two wide receivers, I think it just, whoever's on your roster. Yeah, number three wide receiver is a perfect way to put it. I think it just, you know, whoever's on your, on your, on your roster. Yeah. Number three, wide receivers are perfect way to put it. I think people are starting to view him as like a high catch, low upside guy.

And I don't, I don't think we should go there yet. I think he's got some upside and we might see them, uh, them send him deep at least once this week. Yeah. I, I did notice Cleveland if they struggle in one area,

I don't know. I wouldn't say this, but statistically they give up a lot of yards after the catch. The only thing is, I think a lot of that must have been the Pickens catch, so I don't know if they regularly do, but that is basically all Flowers is doing right now is yak. He catches a lot of short passes, and he's so shifty, he can do that. Rams at the Colts, but I got to say,

I don't really buy that stat for the Browns. I think it was mostly one play, but we'll see. It's something to keep an eye on. Rams at Colts, but I gotta say, I don't really buy that staffer of the Browns. I think it was mostly one play. But we'll see. It's something to keep an eye on. Rams and Colts, rank the wide receivers. Assuming Anthony Richardson plays, rank the top three wide receivers in this game. Puka,

Pittman, Tutu, Downs. Yeah, but Puka, Pittman, Tutu, really. Right. Okay. Pittsburgh and Houstonston how much do you trust the houston wide receivers and what has been a great matchup for wide receivers so far pittsburgh has been terrible against receivers how much do you trust collins and dell both top 30 very much so yeah are they ahead of zay Flowers? Yes.

I've got Dell and Flowers back-to-back at 29 and 30. Would you start Devon Achan or Dell or Collins? I would start the receivers in PPR and half PPR. Yeah. Okay. And Las Vegas is at the Chargers. Who's the best flex in this group jacoby myers josh kelly if austin eckler is out josh palmer or quentin johnston jacoby well he could have brian hoyer as his quarterback so

yeah i've got it ranked that way so i do have jacoby buried a little bit but the the reports yesterday sounded like jimmy garoppolo has already gotten through step one of the protocol which is pretty encouraging on a wednesday so assuming jimmy's back then it's jacoby i'm giving away all of my stats of the games but stat of the game for that game is that jacoby myers is basically an outside receiver this year. And he looks freaking great, doesn't he? He's barely playing in the slot, about 25% slot rate. He's usually over 50%. So maybe they are unlocking something with Jacoby Myers. Jimmy Garoppolo is a downfield passer now.

Like both Adams and Myers are seeing passes way down the field. This is a different thing than we expected. Kansas City's at the Jets. Start or sit Isaiah Pacheco. I think you're going to consider him the same range every week, you know, borderline number two,

running back flex better and non and half PPR than full PPR. For me, it's always going to come down to, does the other team have a chance to be competitive in this case? No. So I think he's fine. Isn't number low end number two running back. Like I view him very similar this week,

and I know it's not fair to say this, but to Joe Mixon. Yeah, I'm a little lower. I think I have been. I was wrong last week, but I think he's more of the flex. You should expect 12 carries and two catches, and if he scores a touchdown, he'll be a number two, and if he doesn't, he'll be a flex. Okay, here's my favorite stat of the game for the week.

For the Chiefs-Jets. So the Chiefs Why did I say the Steelers? The Chiefs they won by ten or more points last year in seven games. And a running back scored a rushing touchdown in

five of those seven games. In the other 13 games that they played, including the postseason, these are games that they either won by less than 10 or they lost. A running back scored a touchdown in five of 13 games. So the running backs just seem to score touchdowns so much more frequently in these blowout wins.

It's a little bit of a stretch, I don't know, but it kind of makes sense. And it happened last week, too. They had two running back rushing touchdowns in a blowout win. They had four total running back touchdowns last week? Or three or four? Two passing to McKinnon.

Yeah, two to McKinnon in the air. And then Pacheco and Clyde scored. And those, I think, are the only running back rushing touchdowns of the season. So it's just that game script of a blowout win for the Chiefs and a running back rushing touchdowns of the season. So it's just that game script of a blowout win for the Chiefs and a running back rushing touchdown, they seem to go hand in hand. Do with that what you will.

All right, let's go to the games. Let's start with Atlanta-Jacksonville. All right. Is the Jacksonville offense in London, is the Jacksonville offense waking up here? Heath, you've been a little more hesitant. I was actually surprised when I looked at the rankings that you did have Trevor Lawrence

I think top 10-ish? Like around 10th? I think he's 11th. Okay. He might have fallen to 12th when I put Richardson in the rankings. So he might be 12th now. I think in support of the start of the week I basically have Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields tied in the projections,

so I'll probably move Fields ahead of Lawrence. All right, so that would put Lawrence at 13. Jamie Lawrence is at 9 for you. What are we thinking about the offense this week? I hope his receivers will catch some touchdowns. Oh, it's a Calvin Ridley revenge game. I hadn't thought of it. I didn't tell you guys this,

but I talked to Mark Andrews a couple of days ago, Jamie. And one of the things I did was fantasy or reality and asked him about our narratives and which of these things are actually real and which of these things are things that we just made up. And the one he was most adamant about was that the revenge game is 100% real. Let's go.

The guys get up for playing against their old teams that's really interesting first of all where can we see that and secondly like give me another nugget from that interview um he was not as big a fan of the uh of the squeaky wheel game he didn't uh didn't find that one quite as enticing did definitely think that the rivalry game or if the guy has a good history against one team, that we do certainly... And he was kind of making reference to the Browns, I think, but he wouldn't come out and say it.

There are certain teams that's much easier to hate, is what he said. He seems like a cool guy. Very, very cool guy. Okay, I'm sure we can see that on YouTube. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Anyway, Trevor Lawrence is back-to-back with Justin Fields for both of you. So he's in kind of that range.

You can start. I know Heath's going to start Anthony Richardson over Lawrence. How about you, Jamie? I would start Lawrence over Richardson as of now. Okay. Do you both have Jordan Love ahead of Trevor Lawrence? Yes, Love over Lawrence? I have. Yes.

Love over. I do. All right. And I, I think it will be, the real question is, can Jacksonville get Atlanta off the field? Like,

I think this could be a Falcons team that opposing offenses don't run as many plays against them because they want to be so run heavy and they're pretty good at it. If this is a game where Bajon Robinson and Tyler Algier have a combined 40 rush attempts, then there may not be as many offensive plays for the Jags. That's another risk. No risk with ETN, though. We're going to start him for sure. Start him. What about Christian Kirk, start or sit? If Zay Jones is out, it's been two very good games. I would start him. I'm going to say this just because it's the last chance I have to do anything resembling a victory lap.

He has outscored Calvin Ridley on the season. That probably won't last through two more days for the first three weeks. Take it. He's a number two. what if zay jones plays how much would you downgrade him slightly but not significantly he'd be a high-end number three okay yeah look atlanta's defense has been pretty good so far they are allowing the seventh fewest fantasy points to wide receivers but but I don't really know.

I mean, Amandra St. Proud at 100 yards. Green Bay wide receivers caught three touchdowns. They faced Carolina in week one. I think I'm curious to find out a little bit more about the Falcons' defense. Evan Ingram is a guy you just start a little lower for Jamie than he is for Dave and Heath, but you're starting him. Although, if you had Laporta and Evan Ingram, who would you start? Laporta and Evan Ingram, who would you start? Uh,

Laporta. I think I have Ingram higher, but it's, I, I don't have a strong feel. Yeah. I don't have a strong feeling either way. Laporta or Ingram slightly higher.

How much time do we need to spend on the Falcons offense? I mean, it's really just, you're starting to be on at this point. I can't imagine anybody has any confidence in the other guys. Pitts is just by default at this point. Do you want to carry another tight end? So if you have London at this point, it's just a hold.

I really do think if this is a bad game for Ritter, like an awful, awful game for Ritter, we're going to see Taylor Heineke at some point. They have to make a change. They have everything else in place to be a competitive team. They just freed up, I think, 7 million more yesterday or the day before with

a restructure, and now have 16 million in salary gap. Thanks. The DSTs, you like a DST in this game? Not really. You brought this up just about how the Falcons don't throw the ball enough to make it worth your time to bank on a Ritter turnover.

Right. And for the Jaguars, I mean, look, the Falcons just haven't been that, I think good of a DST there, but their defense is playing well, but their DST has just not been that good.

Who wins? I think Jacksonville on a close game. It's tough to go into the Jags house. And pull out a victory. Are they staying there? They're there next week as well. Is that right? Yes.

And it's weird because they're one in three in their last trips to England, but I believe they're all in three in their last three in London. Huh? They lost the last three in Wembley. I don't know that they're staying there, but I am just assuming they are staying there because they do play. They are playing there next week as well. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Cincinnati's at Tennessee. Stat of the game. This is according to worldstrides.com. Nashville native William Walker became the president of Nicaragua in 1856. No other American has become president of another country since.

You learn a lot on this show. Joe Burrow, we've talked about a lot. He's 15th for Jamie, 19th for Dave, and 17th for Heath. So Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence, Jordan Love ahead of him. Anyone else? Like Garoppolo, if Garoppolo plays, would you start him over Burrow? No, I'm actually going to drop him one more spot because I have Purdy behind him, so I'll put Purdy ahead of him.

I'm going to be the high guy. I'm just going to be the high guy on Burrow. You don't have to listen to me, but I have less faith in the Titans' defense is what it comes down to, and I don't think they're going to be able to run the ball effectively, so I think you're going to see a lot of pass

attempts from Burrow. But that's what we had last week. Yeah, and he was okay. He threw for 259 yards. He didn't get in the end zone. But that was against... And they talked about it on the broadcast. It's so difficult to play football the way

they are right now. One mistake. You've got to make 14 good plays in a row to score a touchdown because it's just one mistake. They fall behind the chains. They got no chance. I think it's like this is not. That's the thing is it's like I'm not necessarily down on Joe Burrow. I just don't think he's healthy.

I think it's really hard to play football like this. Yeah, I don't know about you. I thought he looked better in the second half. Maybe that's giving me some more faith, but I thought he got better as the game went on. Well, it's also, you know, if, if the Titans start to, you know, play closer to the line of scrimmage and try and take away some of these short throws, you know, then that's, you know, it doesn't take much for him to just, you know, loft one over the top and these guys break a tackle and they're gone, you know, so there's that potential there, but it just feels like it's going to be a low scoring dink and dunk down the field take

your field goal go home uh joe mixon is a number two running back so you guys are starting kyron williams and zach moss over him i know zach moss what about Kyron? I would, yeah. Heath? Yeah. Okay. And let's do some wide receivers. Would you start Josh Palmer or Quentin Johnston over Joe Mixon? No. Probably not. Would you start, I hope I didn't ask you this earlier,

Christian Watson or Joe Mixon? Not if he's going to be limited, no. Josh Reynolds? No. Who would you say? Reynolds? No. Okay.

How about T. Higgins or Joe Mixon? Who's a better flex? I'll take Higgins. I'll stick with Mixon. All right. I mean, it's kind of hard to have faith in Higgins, isn't it? If you don't have faith in Burrow. Well, it's not that hard. I mean, it's kind of hard to have faith in Higgins, isn't it? If you don't have faith in Burrow. Well, it's not that hard.

I mean, the targets are there. I don't think he just forgot how to catch. He's had two out of three really bad games, but it's not like he's disappeared from the offense. I think as a rule, you should bet on guys like this bouncing back. It's just the calf. It's not a T. Higgins thing for me at all i don't care that he's dropped all these passes he's gonna be fine and for the okay derrick henry how do you guys feel about derrick henry this week he's averaging 3.2 yards per carry the metrics are really bad

coming off a terrible game he was fine the first two weeks but how do you feel about henry this week against the bangles it's it's so hard not to this week against the Bengals? It's so hard not to rank him in the top 10 and it's so hard to rank him in the top 10. You know, it's like at some point you feel he's going to get going, but this offensive line is a disaster. The Bengals just did a great job against Kyron Williams

for what that's worth. I don't know. I mean, it's I think the minute he has a good game he traded him. Okay. I wouldn't disagree with that good game, you trade him. Okay. I wouldn't disagree with that, but I'm starting him. He's a top 10 running back. Starter sit DeAndre Hopkins.

I don't know how you have faith in DeAndre Hopkins right now. This is just an absolute disaster. Yeah. I would start him over Christian Watsonatson but he's a number four wide receiver for me wow i'm it i'm a little scared how about garrett wilson i know he would go garrett wilson jamie garrett wilson or deandre hopkins definitely garrett wilson i'd start christian watson over him too okay all right we're sitting deandre hopkins and sit chigo kankwo and the bangles dst is worth using. They're only 50%

rostered as of maybe yesterday. So they had six sacks last week. They haven't really been a great DST, but it's not a great week for streaming DSDs. We'll take a break. Can they get the Cardinals next week, right? Yes, I believe

so. So their pass rush has been good last week. A lot of that had to do with the Rams' offensive line falling apart, but this offensive line for Tennessee is bad. We got a commercial coming up here. When we come back, we'll talk about the Dolphins and the Bills. A lot to talk about in that game. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.

Welcome back, everybody. Thanks so much for tuning in. Remember to catch our live stream tonight, Thursday night, at 7.30 p.m. Eastern, just before kickoff, or we'll take you up until kickoff of Green Bay and Detroit. Miami is at Buffalo. First of all, who wins? I think the Bills do.

Yeah. I mean, I've had a sparkling record predicting Dolphins games this season. I'm going to go with the Dolphins. But maybe the Bills injury report will matter because they have a lot of guys on defense that are on the injury report. I think it'll be for them. Look, these are the two best teams in the AFC East. I think it'll be a home-and-home

this year. I think the Dolphins are going to go 14-3. The Bills are going to miss the playoffs. This is kind of like a are the Dolphins legitimate contenders or are the

Dolphins like the most exciting sideshow? Well, I was kidding about what I said. It was exaggerated. But I think they're legitimate contenders because I think their defense is better. And they'll have Jalen Ramsey at some point this year. But Fangio is just the man.

The Mangio, their defensive coordinator. All right, so will that make it difficult for the Bills? First of all, both these quarterbacks are in the top six. I'm not really sure how Josh Allen isn't your number one quarterback. He's averaging over 32 points per game against the Miami Dolphins in his career in the regular season. Some of that, though, was just early in his career where Dolphins were terrible. Some of that was last year, though. I mean, he scored 44 points against them in Week 15, and then he threw for 352 yards.

You just said the Dolphins' defense is much better. Yeah, I did say that. Okay, the tough calls in this game are probably— I'm sorry that I don't have my homes behind Josh Allen. It's okay. The tough calls in this game are probably... I'm sorry that I don't have my homes behind Josh Allen. It's okay. The tough calls in this game are probably A-chan, because if you missed it earlier, Raheem Mostert is super high.

You can hear about that in one question for each game if you want to check the time codes. He's a top seven running back. Stefan Diggs is easy. Dolphins wide receivers are starting. So it's A-chan and Gabe Davis, and that's pretty... Oh, maybe we talk a little bit about the tight ends. But who would you start, A a Chan and Gabe Davis. And that's pretty, Oh, and maybe we talk a little bit about the tight ends,

but who would you start a Chan or Gabe Davis? I'm sure that's easy, but please answer it. Hey, Chan. It's a Chan. We have, we have a three game sample size of Gabe Davis of what the Gabe Davis rollercoaster is. One game.

He was terrible. One game. He was great. One game. He got a long touchdown. I don't feel bad if he's my number three wide receiver. That's the kind of guy that I'm good with having him there. And even better if I have a three wide receiver

leading him by flex. That's fantastic. It's frustrating, though, because he has two games with only four targets. And his best game by far was against the Raiders, six for 92 and a touchdown on seven targets. But his route depth and his ADOT were lower in that game. And I was hoping that maybe this year

he would become a little bit more of a complete receiver. We're not really seeing it yet. So you've told me you don't like Garrett Wilson. Do you like Garrett Wilson or Gabe Davis? Wilson. Yeah, Wilson. All right. A-Chan or Gus Edwards if he plays?

A-chan. A-chan for sure. A-chan or Jerome Ford? Ford in non-PPR. I'll go A-chan. I'm not really confident that A-chan will catch. I don't know. But I'm not confident that A-Chan will catch more passes than Ford.

I feel like Ford's got three catches in him. Do you think A-Chan goes over or under or right at that number? Same, but there's more explosive plays in A-Chan's arsenal. Oh, yeah. What a freaking game he had. I cannot wait for this encore to see how this plays out. A-Chan or Jordan Addison?

A-Chan. A-Chan. Adam Thielen. Thielen. Thielen for sure in full PPR, yeah. And I think A-Chan might be the Gabe Davis of running backs. It's possible this week he has eight

carries and houses one of them. And so it's fine. Or it's possible he just has a dud. Any interest in Dawson Knox or Dalton Kincaid? We both have 12 targets. Um, it's probably going to be Knox cause it just feels like that's going to be the thing all season, but this is a good opportunity. I think, for both the tight ends. We saw two touchdowns allowed from the Dolphins in the first two games of the season from opposing tight ends. Then they faced Adam Troutman, so take that for what it's worth. The last time these two teams met, both Bills tight ends scored touchdowns. Knocks out a huge game.

So I don't mind taking a shot on Kincaid more so in PPR than non-PPR. He was just disappointing last week, but I don't know how much of that was just they didn't need to do a lot offensively. So I wrote and started and said this is going to be Kincaid's best game. Not saying much, but...

All of the whole season or just so far? So far. Okay. All right. I think that's pretty much it. Let's go to our next game. Baltimore is at Cleveland. I didn't miss anything in that game, right?

I feel like we covered that. I don't know. Maybe Waddle, but... Yeah, I mean, you're starting him, right? Yeah. Should we talk about Tua? Because a lot of people have Tua and... I think at this point,

it's either got to be Tua and Cousins. Maybe you can make a case for Tua and Love just because the matchup and Love's been on fire as well but I'd still start Tua in both those cases and I start I'm sorry Cousins over Tua but Tua over Love I would start Cousins over Tua but if I had Cousins and Tua I'm go get a trade done come on you don't want to keep making this decision all year long yeah yeah I had that in one league. It's our salary cap league, and I traded for Lawrence just as a QB swap, but I'm still playing Cousins over Lawrence. Again, someone calling me out for saying A-chain.

I don't know what to tell you. He said it's A-chain. Baltimore is at Cleveland. Stat of the game. The Browns allow the fewest fantasy points. Okay, everybody get ready. The fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and guess what?

To tight ends. I don't know if the Browns have the best defense in football. One thing they do have is the most time of possession in football. Opponents have the ball for something like 23 minutes on average against the Browns, so that helps. But they have been incredible. So what does that mean for the Ravens in terms of starts and sits? I think this is kind of a discovery game in that situation.

Like I'm still starting Lamar Jackson and not really thinking about it. I'm still starting Zay as a number three wide receiver. I'm starting Mark Andrew Jackson and not really thinking about it. I'm still starting Zay as a number three wide receiver. I'm starting Mark Andrews and not really thinking about it. Like so far we've seen the Browns against Joe Burrow on one leg, Kenny Pickett and the ghost of Ryan Tannehill. Let's let's, if they do that to Lamar, then we're gonna have to take them for real.

Well, one thing I don't doubt is their pass rush. So hopefully the, the, uh, Ravens can get Ronnie Stanley and Tyler Linderbaum back this week. But, um,

you know, as far as Jackson, would you start Lamar Jackson or Tua? Tua. Tua. Lamar Jackson or Richardson? Lamar. Lamar.

But that's close. I think that, you know, just to piggyback off what he said, I think even if Lamar Jackson has a good game, the Browns defense could still be for real. You know, like you said, they have gotten some benefit of the doubt with who they played, but Lamar's a different animal, you know, so he could still do some superhuman things

and still be good. His defense could still be good. I'm a little concerned. I don't think there's good DFS plays for the Ravens in this matchup. Andrew's not someone you want to pay up for. Jackson's not someone you want to pay up for. I'm not benching Lamar Jackson unless I have Cousins

or Tua. That's your decision. But I'm not thrilled about it. All right, anybody interested in a Ravens running back? Gus Edwards, by the way, is averaging five yards per carry this year, and he has averaged five yards per carry or better in every year of his career. So how about that?

He might play. No, because he's not going to be involved in a passing game, and if he does not score, you're getting a pretty miserable stat line, and I don't think he scores. And I think, like, he didn't leave until there was eight minutes left in the fourth quarter,

and I did some back-of-the-envelope math here, so I might have missed one carry, but it looked to me like 11 carries for Gus, seven for Melvin Gordon, or six, maybe. Like, it wasn't... He's not dominating carries any more than he has in the past, even when he's sharing with Melvin Gordon. I thought it was more than that.

I thought it was a little more... I mean, it was definitely 11 for Gus. You're right about that. I thought it was fewer for Gordon. I think he played like 42% of the offensive snaps, and he left with seven and a half, eight minutes left in the game. I don't think it's a bad idea if Justice Hill is getting dropped to pick him up.

Melvin Gordon I had at six carries after Gus Edwards left with the injury, which would have meant he had four. Maybe there was a couple on the drive that he got hurt that I missed. I also could be wrong about that. You can't start these guys with confidence. Zay Flowers we've talked a lot about.

He's a number three receiver. Can they just please make a trade for Jonathan Taylor already? It's the most logical destination of any teams right now because the Dolphins have to be out of the picture. Yeah. Mark Andrews is a start.

Deshaun Watson, start or sit? I would sit him. To me, he feels like he's going to be somewhat matchup dependent for the majority of the season it was great to see what he did last week that was against a miserable defense this defense is going to make things uncomfortable for him so they're getting healthy on the defensive side too

so I don't think it's going to be a great game for Deshaun Watts I think at best you're looking at 21-22 points he's not a top 12 quarterback for me but I would start him over Burrow and Deck. I agree with that. Yeah, give credit to the Ravens. I mean, I thought their secondary would

kind of get shredded so far. They face CJ Stroud, Joe Burrow, and Gardner Minshew for what it's worth, but all of those quarterbacks have thrown 41 or more passes and failed to reach 250 yards. So, good job by the Ravens. I mean, I think for what you want to do

is you want to look at Vegas and what it's telling us too. 40 and a half is a pretty low number. So starters at Jerome Ford. Number two running back by default. I've got him just outside my top 24. Definitely him over Gus. But I've got him, him I think right behind HN

okay so who's that who's he ahead of who's Jerome Ford ahead of for you to me he's in the and again take it just because the matchup but the Madison Mixon Pacheco group this week I would start I'd start him over Damian Pierce yes

would you start Brian Robinson no you'd start Ford over Robinson yes I've got Robinson Yes. Would you start Brian Robinson? No. You'd start Ford over Robinson? Yes. I've got Robinson a couple spots higher, but... All right. Washington scares the hell out of me. They're playing Philadelphia this week, right?

Yeah. Yeah, that's not a great situation for Brian Robinson, just kind of like last week. Marty Cooper, we have a little bit of a rankings dispute on Cooper. He is 13th for Dave and Jamie. He is 23rd for Heath. I don't know if those rankings are updated, but they're probably pretty

close. Jamie, you're basically calling Amari Cooper a must start here. Home game? Home game Amari. Heath, come on. He's at home. What are you doing? He said, I've got him top 24 you're starting amari cooper yeah he's been great he's been uh like i said uh he and elijah moore they both have to have 25 targets which is 25 i guess watson's thrown 100 passes this year so they have half of the targets for watson so, and, and that, I mean, more is just not doing a lot with the targets, but seven, nine,

and nine targets. Does that give you any faith in Elijah Moore? Hope not faith. Okay. Well said perhaps worth picking up in case things get going. Cause he's 62% rostered. I'd start him over Deshaun or over Deandre Hopkins. I'd start him over DeAndre Hopkins. I'd start him over Christian Watson. Okay. And Baltimore has allowed 80

receiving yards or more to Nico Collins to T. Higgins and 77 yards to Michael Pittman. They did very well against Jamar Chase, though. David Njoku is a sit and the Browns DST. Dave and Jamie like them. Heath, not so much. They really haven't been that great. It's great that they've been in real life. They haven't been so great for fantasy. The Ravens DST, Dave and Jamie like them. Heath, not so much. They really haven't been that great. It's great that they've been in real life.

They haven't been so great for fantasy. The Ravens DST is right around 10th. All right, let's go to the Rams and the Colts. I know Jamie has to bounce in a couple minutes, so Jamie, give us your take on backup running back bowl, Rams and Colts. Zach Moss over Kyron Williams. I think he showed enough last week

and again good call by Heath that you start him and the Rams run defense is not something that you necessarily have to fear he's been using the passing game so top 10 running back for this week and then Williams is still getting all the work I hope the targets are still there

and the connection is a little bit better between Matthew Stafford and Williams in the passing game so both guys are top 20 running backs, Moss over Williams. Heath, anything to add? No. Nailed it. Okay. Stat of the game. Michael Pittman is top 7 among wide receivers

in both targets and catches, but he is 20th in receiving yards among wide receivers. And you look at this Rams team. I brought this up earlier. They have faced the Seahawks, the 49ers, and the Bengals, and Jamar Chase is the only receiver with more than 63 yards against

them. So you got Richardson probably coming back. Probably fewer passes thrown. Maybe more concentrated at Pittman, though. Because actually one of the advanced stats that we had on beyond the box score, I think it may have been Ben Gretsch who brought it up first.

I may not have. I don't remember. The read option is one that is a play that if the quarterback throws the ball, they tend to funnel targets to one receiver. It's not time to look to go through progressions once you've already faked that.

I think the top 20 wide receiver, i'm not sold on the ram secondary being one that really matters that seattle game was super weird in terms of how much time the seahawks had the ball um so yeah i'm starting michael pitman with confidence and to this point for the five quarters that richardson played they had a 61% pass rate. For the season, they've got a 60% pass rate. So there was not significantly fewer passes when Richardson was playing than Gardner Minshew so far. It's also, they just basically laid out a blueprint for what Michael Pittman can do. He's not going to get, I think, over 100 yards like Jamar Chase did,

but it's a high volume of targets and receptions to the number one guy. And let me see if I can pick a bone with you here. Pittman, well, I would start Cooper over him. So would Jamie, not Heath. I think Pittman, the bigger discussion is what do you do with him in half a non-PPR? That's a good question. You know, so non-PPR, he's not a top 20 receiver, not top 24 receiver. Half PPR, which's a good question. You know, so non PPR, he's not a top 20 receiver, not, not top 24 receiver. Half PPR,

which is what I see. All right. Half PPR. Would you start, um, Christian Kirk or Michael Pittman? To me, they feel very similar.

So I would go with Pittman. Yeah. Okay. T Higgins or Michael Pittman in half in everything. Um, I would go with Pittman in full PPR for sure. In half and nine, I'd go Higgins cause there's more touchdown potential. I could go Pittman and,

and anything where catches count for anything, but I'm going Pittman across the board. I'm the Michael Pittman guy, Anthony Richardson. Well, I'll just do it again, even though it's a repeat, but you know,

the reason why I do that is because a lot of people are not paying attention for the entire show. Maybe they click the time code. They want to hear about this particular game because they have Anthony Richardson. So I'm just giving all of you out there a little bit of my producer strategy here. Anthony Richardson or Justin Fields? I'm going to go Fields, but that's no problem to go Richardson.

Anthony Richardson or Russell Wilson? Richardson. Richardson. Richardson or Daniel Jones and Geno Smith on Monday night? Richardson. Yeah. Okay. What does Richardson have to do to get a public apology from you?

All right. One more game. 20 or more points, and I will write an apology. If he had finished the Texans game when he had 17.7 points in the first half, would that have gotten an apology from you? No, he wasn't going to score anymore. He was probably going to score a few more points.

They were going to pull him in the second quarter anyway. It was going to be a blowout. All right, so Tyler Higgins, We'll go to the Rams here. Nothing else for the Colts. You're going to sit the tight ends and Josh Downs, but we'll go to the Rams. We can talk about Higby in a second, but Kyron Williams. Oh, wait.

What happened? We have conflicting reports from the NFL Network from Tom Pelosaro himself. Correction. David Montgomery and left tackle Taylor Decker are playing tonight against the Packers. Emmanuel Mosley is not playing. So he got his Lions information wrong,

and he's apologizing for that. Oh, come on. I mean, I'm not blaming him, but now this is really... Now we got to talk about this. All right, let's finish. All right, so wrap up this game. I'll stay for the recap of this,

and then I'll go. All right, Kyron Williams is a number two running back. He gets every touch. Stafford, you sit. All right, let's finish. All right, so wrap up this game. I'll stay for the recap of this, and then I'll go. All right, Kyron Williams is a number two running back. He gets every touch. Stafford, you sit. Puka, you start. 2-2 Atwell. Or T. Higgins?

T. T, but I mean, look, he's been better by a lot. He's been good. He really has. Yeah. 2-2 Atwell. I got this question yesterday

because I have Stafford as a sit and start sitting. Both receivers just starts. And somebody said, how can you do that? And I said, look at weeks one through three. It's pretty simple.

Uh, two, two Atwell or Kyron Williams in the flex. Uh, Williams, but it's close to two Atwell or Jerome Ford. Okay. And that Tyler Higby, any interest?

Minimal. Last week was encouraging, though. Colts DST? Feel like they're a bit of a sleeper? So, Notaboom practiced, but is still dealing with, I think, a knee or a thigh injury. And their left tackle, I forget his first name, but it's Jackson.

Mispractice. And their left tackle, I forget his first name, but it's Jackson, mispracticed. And so he left the game against the Bengals, and that was a big reason why they fell apart. So keep an eye on that. By the way, his first name is also Jackson. His name is Jackson Jackson. So that's a joke. Pittsburgh at Houston is next, but first let's update the Lions tonight. All right, what are we doing with Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery now?

Both number two running backs. I prefer Gibbs slightly in PPR, but Montgomery should get as much work as he can handle. I agree, except I prefer Montgomery slightly in all formats. I have to write this into the description and the time codes and all that. I don't know. Ky williams or a lion's running back current uh kyron yeah i just want to say i don't know if this bothers you but kyron williams is averaging i think 3.2 yards per carry and his 3.6 his longest run is nine yards it just i have so much trouble it It's only 39 carries. The other

side of that, he's had so much success rushing with a terrible average. He's not had as much success in the passing game as the targets probably say he should have. He does have a lot of targets, 17 targets. He's also getting every touch. I think when you do this, and I know that's asking a lot of you,

take out the goal line touches. I don't do that because then I'd have to do that for every running back. I mean, they do count. They absolutely count. But he's not going to be a guy that's going to plunge into the end zone every time he's got a one- or two-yard opportunity because he's facing nine minutes of the line of scrimmage.

Well, yeah. Well, it's not really a case for him. But all right. All right. You know what? Join us tonight. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today

will keep you updated. Jamie, have a great have a wonderful day. See you guys. Don't wear a hat tomorrow. Pittsburgh is at Houston.

Stat of the game here. I just want to talk about the pass rush for this game because I think it could be a really big factor. Houston.

Well, Pittsburgh is 10th in pressure rate, and Houston has allowed the ninth highest pressure rate against them. So let's see if Laramie Tunsil plays here, but if something could throw a wrench in the passing game, it could certainly be those two great edge rushers for the steelers you know we can have and i think if that it's that kind of game which i am worried it will be and that's why i didn't really rank cj stroud as well as he's played this season i think that's probably a lot better for tank dell than it is for nico collins like if you're gonna have to complete passes within five yards of the line of scrimmage i I guess a lot more of those are going to Dell than they are to Nico.

Right. I want to talk about that profile here of, of Nico Collins. It's a little frustrating for fantasy. There are 55 wide receivers that have 15 or more targets so far this year. And Nico Collins is third in route depth. Now, if you want to look at the top 10 in route depth,

this is, this is better to me than a dot. So it's Jordan Addison, Gabe Davis, Nico Collins, Calvin Ridley is four, Darius Slayton, five, and six through 10 is probably a little more consistent, but Amari Cooper, DJ Moore, Devante Smith, Cortland Sutton, and Justin Jefferson. So I don't know. I mean, if I see a guy like Nico Collins, he's running such deep routes. I went back and I looked at his routes. I felt the same way about Josh Reynolds. Like they're running such deep routes. Sometimes you're just not going to get the ball. So it's a little frustrating. Probably gives you a lot of upside though.

It does. But to our point, like what we were just talking about, if you are facing a team that's destroying your offensive line, you're not going to have time to get the ball to the guy who's running 12 yard routes. So do you have Dell ahead of Nico? I don't right now. If we get a tonsil ruled out, if the offensive line doesn't get healthier, then, then I, then I might make that change. What I love about Nico Collins is, and going back this morning and watching the one catch, one of the catches he made, he didn't have a lot in week three. He just ran over and ran by people. He's very hard to bring down. I think that's the kind of difference between him and, say, a Gabe Davis.

He can make plays after the catch more so. So I really love the player. I wish they'd use him a little bit differently. They did run a wide receiver screen to him. It didn't really work. It's kind of like the George Pickens situation. I think Pickens has more upside, slightly more talent. But talent but yeah just give them the ball run a slant yeah so right yeah so you like pickens is your favorite receiver in this game uh pickens then nico then tank okay

uh any interest in like Calvin Austin? Not really. Okay. What do you think about the running backs in this game? Do we have a starter among them? We do not. I would go Najee, then Warren, then Pierce. And I think they all rank between 26 and 32. Listen, if you look at the advanced stats, they say Najee has been a much better running back running the football than Jalen Warren has been this year. His rush yards over-expected are better. His rush grade from PFF is better. This is supposed to be a great matchup. This could be a very good game for Najee Harris. It's just hard to believe it,

especially when you expect Jalen Warren to do most of the stuff in the passing game. Yeah, we thought Vegas would be a good game for him, and he had 19 carries for 65 yards. Look, if he's capable of getting 19 carries, then he's always interesting. Yep. He scored 5.3 to 6.5 PPR fantasy points in all three games, and actually he's been outscored by Jalen Warren in full PPR in all three games.

But I understand why he'd rank Najee ahead of Warren. Again, these guys were trying to sit. What is it that you don't like about Damian Pierce? He's still like, he, all he did was score the touchdown last week. The efficiency is still terrible. He's still sharing way too much.

What do you like about Damian Pierce? I don't, I like that. I like that. He's leading the team and carries that the week one, they got blown out and he didn't get a lot of work. But weeks two and three, what was he, around 14 carries or so per game? It's not terrible.

And I like that he should be a better runner than this. I don't understand why he's running so poorly, but he should be better than this. Well, do they literally have all five starting offensive linemen on IR? No. Three of five or something? It's a terrible's a terrible offensive line oh yeah I'm sorry I was thinking of the Steelers offensive line which has also been a little beat up but yeah you're right that what if they get tons of that they get tons of back maybe it's better but all right let's wait and see uh we've talked about the Texans wide receivers we talked about Pickens Pat Fryermuth you can start him. Would you start Friermuth or Pitts?

I think I have Pitts one spot higher. I'm very nervous that my Muth love in the offseason is just going to completely flame out. We're very fortunate that he scored a couple touchdowns early in the year. What? So Joe Burrow over C.J. Stroud? Yeah. Don't like it, though.

I might change that alright but he's gonna be a number two quarterback at this point yeah if you're in a super flex league

golf or shroud I'm not as down on golf as anyone else I'm I'm still okay starting golf this week

so it's golf and you can start the Steelers DST we got two more games one of them's a shootout. One of them's a blowout. Probably Vegas at the chargers. The chargers have given up the fifth most points.

Second, most yards per play, 36 points to Miami, 27 to Tennessee, 24 at Minnesota. So maybe this is a good day. Maybe for Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean,

if he plays, would you start him or Stroud? I would start him. I think there's a pretty good chance. Like, you asked the question earlier, and I think Jamie answered it, and I dodged it, and I'll just go ahead and say it. I think if Jimmy gets cleared,

I'm probably going to have him ahead of Burrow. Okay. He's been legitimately pretty good. Yeah, it's the turnovers that are killing him. He's thrown six picks in two games, but he threw for 324 yards on Sunday night against Pittsburgh. If Brian Hoyer plays, how much does that change things or,

or O'Connell? It, I've got it ranked as if one of those guys is going to play right now. We're not ranking Garoppolo cause he's in the concussion protocol. So like, I don't care who it could be. Adam Azar playing quarterback and I'm starting Devante Adams is the number one wide receiver.

Um, Jacoby is a low end number three with anybody but Jimmy and a borderline number two with Jimmy. Um, and I'm starting Jacobs against the chargers. So it, it, it's a serious question.

If I started for the Raiders, give me your stat line for Devontae Adams. 19 targets. On 20 passes. Eight catches. 75 yards. Oh, wow. I was thinking we're like 7.5 yards.

All right. So, Jacobs, you are starting, huh? Everybody's got him in the top eight. This has got to be the Joe Boo. He showed signs last week. I think he had 10 or 11 PPR fantasy points last week. The Chargers are the get-right spot for running backs. We saw it with Alexander Madison.

It's a good spot for him, and the schedule is good moving forward. You've probably got two more days to try to buy low on Josh Jacobs. He's going to be a top-12 running back the rest of the season. Okay, and Jacoby Myers, as Heath already said, better start.

I would say he's almost a must-start if Jimmy Garoppolo's playing with how good he's been, and the Chargers giving up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. They have faced some very good ones, though. I will say he's almost a must start if Jimmy Garoppolo is playing with how good he's been. And the Chargers giving up the most fantasy points to wide receivers have faced some very good ones, though. I will say that hasn't been an easy schedule so far for the Chargers. Sit the Raiders tight ends. Justin Herbert's top four starter.

Sit Josh Kelly. If Eckler's out. He is in that Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, Damian Pierce group. I'm probably going to have him ranked ahead of those guys. Wow. He gets one target a game. That I don't get. He runs the routes.

He never gets targeted, and he's just been so bad. And he's been started in 68% and 70% of leagues the last two weeks, and he's scored fewer than four points in both of them. That's terrible. I think this is an even better matchup than the Vikings, though. Yeah, I would agree. And I don't think anybody else is going to take those touches. How do you feel about Josh Palmer and Quentin Johnston?

Palmer is a number three wide receiver. Johnston is a bench stash. Palmer or Jacoby Myers? Jacoby, no matter who's starting a quarterback. Wow, okay. Starters at Gerald Everett. I did move him up a little bit. I thought Jamie made a good case about maybe some increased targets, but I would

rather not start him. I'm starting him like there are a couple of guys that we've been starting that have awful matchups, two of them playing each other, Hunter Henry and Jake Ferguson. I would start Gerald Everett over those guys, but I'm not starting him over Goddard or Muth or Pitts or any of those guys.

Yeah, Everett's around 12th for everyone, which brings us to Kansas City and the Jets. Go. Don't talk about Garrett Wilson because if you want to hear about Garrett Wilson, that's in the rankings dispute segment earlier in the show. Talk about everyone else. Well, there's not a whole lot else earlier in the show. Talk about everyone else. Well,

there's not a whole lot else really to talk about. Like you're starting my homes. You are starting Kelsey Pacheco. We already had that discussion as well, but he's a high end flex for me. I would understand if somebody viewed him as a number two running back. I don't want to start a chiefs wide receiver. I don't want to start a jets running back.

Um, if I had to, it would be breeze hall, but I don't want to do that. Okay. Would you start Pacheco or Jacoby Myers? Jacoby for sure in full PPR and a half. Probably Pacheco in non.

I've got Pacheco behind Najee, Warren, Pierce, that group. Okay. All right. I do have this kind of feeling that he's going to score a touchdown, but I laid that out earlier. But it's a tough thing to bank on when you're setting your lineup.

Do you want to stash a Chiefs wide receiver? Because for me, it's Rushie Rice. Yes. I think, like, I have not,

and I've talked about this a little bit. It's late enough in the podcast where not too many people will hate me for saying it. But I've just not really had the injury bug hit me. And so I'm still stashing Kadarius Tony

on a couple of benches. I've had a hard time dropping him. I think Sky Moore is certainly stashable and Rasheed Rice, I definitely want to stash as well. If I had all three, I think I'm at the point right now where I agree with you, Rice would be my favorite to stash.

Okay, and as I said, their schedule is about to get really, really good for wide receivers. And that's going to pretty much do it. Garrett Wilson, just to summarize, Heath likes him as a number two receiver. Dave and Jamie do not like Garrett Wilson. I think I've got him closer. He's a borderline

number two. Okay. I think 26 than full PPR is where I have him. Oh, sorry. Non-PPR, you had him as a number two. Right. And full PPR 26 where I have them. Oh, sorry. Non-PPR, you had them as a number two. Right. Full PPR, 26. Sorry about that. Okay, that's it. He has 80% of the Jets' targets in the red zone.

Wow. They have five? I think so. Yeah, probably. All right. All right, we'll see you tonight at 7.30 p.m. Eastern. There's going to be a lot of questions about the Lions running backs,

and I get it. So join us then, me, Chris, and Dave, 7.30, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Thanks to Keith and Jamie and Thomas. I'm Adam. Have a great day. We'll talk to you soon.