Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Chiefs RBs, Tua, Najee (12/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 22, 2022

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Of course we begin with a weather update with more details about the games you should be avoiding. Then Jamey and Heath tell you who they love this week (4:00) and who to avoid (8:25). J.K. Dobbins is gonna have a big game! Will Gardner Minshew be worth starting? ... News and notes (10:50) and One Question for Each Game (19:15). Start or Sit Christian Watson? Any concerns about Joe Mixon? Do we trust Darren Waller this week? ... Start or Sit for Packers-Dolphins (29:30), Bengals-Patriots (40:40), Seahawks-Chiefs (46:00), Chargers-Colts (58:30), Raiders-Steelers (1:05:40), Falcons-Ravens (1:14:00), Texans-Titans (1:16:15) and Saints-Browns (1:17:10) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. All right, week 16 is just hours away. Will there be a monsoon tonight in that Jets game? I'm getting a little tired of talking about the weather, but we, of course, will update you on what we know. Welcome to the show, everybody. Start or sit for the AFC home games. What are we looking at today?

We got Green Bay at Miami. Big game there. Cincinnati at New England. You look at those two games, Green Bay, Miami, Cincinnati, New England. Are we seeing some issues here for Aaron Jones and Joe Mixon? We'll talk about that. Seattle's at Kansas City. Chargers are at the Colts.

Raiders at the Steelers. Atlanta's at Baltimore. Houston's at Tennessee. Four straight games against the Texans for Derrick Henry with 200-plus rushing yards and two or more touchdowns. And New Orleans is at Tennessee. Four straight games against the Texans for Derrick Henry with 200-plus rushing yards and two or more touchdowns. And New Orleans is at Cleveland. All right. Good morning, everybody.

Jamie, what's going on? Just getting ready for all this fun weather talk. Yay. Yeah. If we're not wrong as fantasy analysts, we're definitely going to be right as weathermen. Right, exactly. Yeah, I hope everybody got a chance to hear Kevin Roth yesterday.

It was a little more upbeat than I was expecting. Heath, hello. I'm not going to speak to you before Christmas, so Merry Christmas, Heath. Yeah, Merry Christmas to you. You are now speaking to me before Christmas, so we're going to speak for the next hour. You can call him. Yeah, you can call me. Yeah, I heard you say

that he was more upbeat, and I just, like, I know wind is the main problem, and precipitation, if it's really terrible. But Chris Towers put something in the newsletter yesterday or the day before

about, like, when it's this cold, as cold as so many of these games are going to be, that affects scoring too. Yeah. Freezing temperature. Actually, there's a great article on our website breaking it down.

There's a fantasy angle, a betting angle. Chris was part of this article. It was written by three people. But I'm just going to read straight from it. Cold weather has little impact on league scoring. Since 2000, league-wide scoring drops less than two points per game in freezing temperatures, while passing and rushing numbers don't move significantly.

But there is a difference between, you know, 30 degrees and negative, and feels like negative 15. I get that, Heath. So, yeah. What do you think? What's your take? On which game?

On cold weather, I guess. On the freezing temperatures. Yeah, well, I don't think two points per game is nothing in an NFL game. I mean, you're talking about probably 5% decrease right there just because of freezing weather. And then most of these games we're looking at are in the 10 to 11 degrees range. Yeah. Well, the three that we're most concerned about are the Browns game,

Browns and Saints, the Bills, Bears, and tonight's game potentially. And cold weather car. And cold weather car. Yeah. Okay. I put a link. Sorry. I tweeted a link to the article about how weather impacts scoring. Wind has more of an impact on offensive production, especially if it hits 15 plus miles per hour. In those games, you lose about a touchdown compared with indoor games and four points from an average game. Saints Browns and Bills Bears are currently the games in that territory. If you combine cold weather and wind, you know, 15 plus mile per hour wind and freezing temperatures.

There have been 44 games since 2000 with freezing temperatures and 15 plus mile per hour winds. Those games averaged 37.9 points per game. That is terrible. So hopefully we don't have that. All right. Enough of that pessimistic stuff. Jamie, who do we love this week? The star of the week is J.K. Dobbins.

You know, I went back and looked the first time I mentioned him in the waiver wire column. And I remember there was a little skepticism about what kind of impact he would make when he came back. And, and what I wrote in the week 13 column at the time was what you want him for is the Cleveland and the Atlanta game. And hopefully he's back before then and looking like JK Dobbins. And we got it a week earlier because he came back for Pittsburgh and was fantastic. And then he was great against the Browns as well. So he's got a, um,

you know, 145 yards rushing in the two games, this is getting 245 yards rushing into two games. Uh, one touchdown. Clearly he's not going to work in the passing game. Uh, the Lamar Jackson injury could sway how this goes for him to,

I think maybe the ceiling, but looking at this Falcons defense, they've given up, uh, eight games with, I think it's 18 or more PPR points to running backs on the season. Um, I'll get it it just to be accurate here. In any event, he's going to probably rush for 100 yards.

He's going to probably have a chance to score. I think he'll catch maybe a pass or two, depending on how things go. And I think he's got number top 10 upside if he scores based on what he looked like last week. So excited about J.K. Dobbins again, looking at this matchup and how it was going to unfold. And a running back has had 17 or more carries against the Falcons in five straight games. If you get that from Dobbins, that'd be great. Obviously, Gus Edwards is a factor as well.

Heath, I don't think you're quite as high on Dobbins, right? I've got him around 15, I think, 17. Oh, yeah, 17. And full PPR? Yeah, Jamie and Dave have him 12th, you have him 17th. I think, 17. Oh, yeah, 17. And full PPR. Yeah, Jamie and Dave have him 12th. You have him 17th. I mean, I get it, right? It's, you know, I just, I'm sorry.

I don't mean to, you know, say this in a mean way, Jamie, but after you went with Pacheco last week, very similar profile, not as good as Dobbins. I don't think there's a McKinnon behind Dobbins last time I checked, though. Well, there's an Edwards, though. I mean, look, he's going to get his work. I think they, you know, the fact that they ran for 200 yards as a team and scored three

points last week is a little frustrating, I'm sure, on their end. And weather, I think, will play a factor in this. I do think if Lamar Jackson returns, that will help as well. So still something to keep an eye on. But this is a little bit better spot for him, I think, than what they were last week. All right, Heath, who do you love? Pacheco fumbled. He looked frustrating.

Yeah, Pacheco. Yeah, right. Go ahead. Well, Gardner-Rinchu is playing football, so I think we should probably put Gardner-Rinchu in this spot. He's a top 10 to 12 quarterback, depending on the time of day that I update my quarterback rankings, kind of go back and forth between him, Dak Prescott,

Kirk Cousins, and Daniel Jones. Those four populating basically QB 9 through 12 in my rankings. And maybe if I get concerned enough about the weather, it'll be 8 through 11 because I might have to move Trevor Lawrence behind them. But like the fact that he'll be playing in controlled conditions, I'm leaning towards those guys a little bit more. He's been a low-end number one quarterback basically his entire career whenever he started. And those games have been played with far worse weapons than A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, Dallas Goddard. We saw him in this system with the starters one time last year. He scored 22.8 fantasy points.

He played another meaningless game with some backups, but we're not going to. I think he had 18 in that one. Very, very solid quarterback. Outstanding surrounding cast. I think he has a chance to deliver fantasy victories, and I'll be going up against him in the IDP League, unfortunately. Are you sure? Well, I don't know if you will.

Are you sure that he was a low-end number one quarterback? 10 to 14. Because I don't think he was. I had him as top 20 one year,'s about 16th one year the problem is he had a lot he had some games where he had partial games yeah yeah right they they jerked him around because they were trying the second year they were trying to tank and he was too good yeah and the first year they had the nick foals thing where he played a couple

half games. I believe if you look at the games where Gardner Minshew played all of the snaps, he's been somewhere between 10th and 14th on a per game basis. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's Minshew, Lawrence, or Brady for me. You love him. You like him more than Geno Smith. I don't like him more than Geno Smith. I didn't see Geno Smith was available on waivers,

and I picked up Minshew instead, and I hate myself for it. Anyway, who are we avoiding, Jamie? All the guys basically in the passing game for the Browns and the Saints. It's just going to be ugly. That's the weather game I think you've got to worry about the most. There's a lot of question marks to begin with besides the weather. Deshaun Watson hasn't been a great fantasy quarterback in the three games that he's played.

DeMar Cooper has struggled with him. I don't want to trust Donovan Peoples-Jones in the weather. And then the other side, Chris Olave is, you know, struggling right now, dealing with an injury on top of it that he's mispracticed. And so I think when it comes to the running backs this game, I'm fine with them as long as, obviously, Nick Chubb plays. But in regards to Watson, Cooper,

Peoples-Jones, Njoku, and Olave, and even Jawan Johnson now as a streamer, I would try to avoid them if you can. I actually like Taysom Hill maybe not significantly better than Johnson, but better than Johnson now because I think he's going to have a big opportunity to run the ball in this matchup.

See? They do have two starting tight ends. How about that? After all, believe me. No, they have one. Just one, okay. Heath, who do you want to avoid this week? Yeah, I had to amend that Saints conversation when I realized they were going to be playing in the,

what are they calling it? Bomb cyclone? Yeah. I believe. Bomb cyclone. That does not sound good. I agree with everything Jamie said. Completely staying away from Marquise Brown.

I'd like to stay away from DeAndre Hopkins, but he's just too good. And so he's still a high end or low end number one, high end number two. But I think this Cardinals pass game is going to be pretty awful with Trace McSorley running things. And so Marquise Brown, not a top 36 wide receiver in any format for me.

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listen to this it's called with the first pick check it out anywhere you listen to podcasts news and notes all right jalen hurts still hasn't been ruled out we're obviously expecting gardner minchu um but he hasn't been ruled out lamar jackson still missing practice tyler huntley also was limited with a shoulder injury as of now, who do you guys expect to be the quarterback for the Ravens? As of right now, still Lamar Jackson, but you got to be prepared to not have him. Desperate situation

and you're stuck, you could either wait out Huntley if you have him or start Zach Wilson tonight in what could be bad weather, but you're starting Trevor Lawrence over him. Kenny Pickett is going to start this week. Ryan Tannehill is likely out for the season. Huge, huge news.

That's just one report. I haven't seen it from any of the top guys yet. Not to dispute the guys covering the team that are suggesting that, but I'm going to at least wait until I see something from Schefter or Rappaport on that one. Okay. Obviously, this is playoff implications. Maybe the Jaguars are going to win the AFC South.

That will make that prediction correct. Yeah, there you go. Malik Willis in two starts has thrown for a combined 135 yards at Houston and at Kansas City. You're saying he's not good? I'm saying sit Traylon Burks. Josh Allen still limited

with the elbow injury. I don't know if it's worse than it was, but he had not been listed with it recently and he has been so far this week. You know, we're going to talk about that game tomorrow, but do you start Trevor Lawrence over Josh Allen? No.

If it was perfect weather, then maybe, but no. Okay. Nick Foles is going to start for the Colts. Does that have a big impact on Michael Pittman, Heath? It had an impact on Michael Pittman. I think it lowers his ceiling and it lowers his floor.

He could be absolutely awful. Matt Ryan hasn't been very good, but at least we knew what Matt Ryan was going to do. So it's a downgrade. I think Pittman's a number three wide receiver. It's a downgrade. Interesting. Because I thought maybe it couldn't really get any worse than Matt Ryan. Well, I guess... Did you see what happened the last time they benched him? But Nick Foles isn't Sam Ellinger. When was the last time that Nick Foles played a game? With Chicago last year, I think. Did he start one last year?

He threw for 200 yards and a touchdown on 35 pass attempts in one start with the Bears last year. That's awful. His numbers since the Super Bowl season have been pretty similar, but better than what Matt Ryan has averaged in the last five games since Jeff Saturday took over. But okay, you say it's a downgrade for Michael Pittman. Running back news. So big stuff here.

All right, Ken Walker missed practice. DJ Dallas was limited. Nick Chubb has been missing practice with a foot injury. So Jamie, you look at those two running back situations. Just give me your quick thoughts on Seattle at Kansas City and the Browns hosting the Saints. I think the Seahawks are just being cautious with Ken Walker is the way I would read it because of the ankle injury he sustained,

the fact that he played last Thursday, played his normal allotment of snaps, didn't seem to have an issue. I'm guessing it's just rest and we'll get a limited practice, if not today, by Friday. For Chubb, it's a little concerning because this popped up seemingly out of nowhere, but again, I'm going to guess it's also maintenance. So at this point, I'm not panicking. But if you do have to make a choice between Zonovan Knight and one of those guys, and that's your worst case scenario,

then maybe you just have to pull the trigger if they don't practice again. But I think if you have Walker, you can go pick up DJ Dallas to see because he practices on a limited basis. And so I think, you know, DJ Dallas, Zonovan Knight, that's kind of the same thing to me. Really?

If Dallas is the starter for the Seahawks? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are they going to practice on Friday? Because these are all Saturday games. Oh, I guess we'll find out today then. Yeah.

So it's got to be... Most of these games are Saturday games. I'm trying to look at the hourly forecast for tonight in East Rutherford, trying to get an update there. Looks like 15-mile-per-hour winds and 100% chance of rain. Not that cold. From what I saw, the wind was supposed to get worse at like 10 p.m., which I guess would be third or fourth quarter.

They've got some major wind advisory from 10 p.m. tonight to 10 p.m. tomorrow. Gosh, ugly weekend. Okay, what else we got in the running back department here? p.m. tonight to 10 p.m. tomorrow. Gosh. Ugly weekend. Okay, what else we got in the running back department here? We've got Khalil Herbert's going to play this week. A.J. Dillon is going to play this week. Jeff Wilson was limited. Chase Edmonds is going to play this week. Heath, did you downgrade David Montgomery

or Latavius Murray? Montgomery gets the Bills. Murray at the Rams on Sunday with Khalil Herbert and Chase Edmonds coming back. I hadn't moved Chase Edmonds in. It might be just a slight ding, but he's been sharing with Marlon Mack anyway, and I don't think Chase Edmonds is going to take over the running downs from Latavius Murray. It was just a little bit of a ding to Montgomery's rush workload, but I think in Khalil Herbert's first game back, I would expect them to be cautious with him,

and I don't think he's going to touch Montgomery on passing downs, so Montgomery's still workload, but I think in Khalil Herbert's first game back, I would expect them to be cautious with him. I don't think he's going to touch Montgomery on passing downs, so Montgomery's still a top 12 running back for me, as usual. Does the weather change anything for the running backs in that Buffalo game? It makes me like them more. I expect more rush attempts. Okay. Bam Knight. That one's also one of the ones with wins expected to be 15 to 20 miles an hour.

That's one of the three big bad ones this week. Zonovan Knight expected to play tonight. Najee Harris mispracticed with a hip injury. Probably be all right. Damian Harris was limited. Wide receiver news. Corey Davis is going to play tonight, right? Is that official he's going to play or is just expected to play?

He is off the injury report. So, yes, you would expect that he's able to play tonight, right? Is that official he's going to play or is just expected to play? He is off the injury report. So yes, you would expect that he's able to play. All right. Corey Davis in Chris Olave and Traylon Burke. Chris Olave has been missing practice, but you're not going to start him anyway.

Traylon Burke's practice in full, but you're not going to start him anyway. Tyler Lockett's out. Mikko Hardman likely to play. Marquise Goodwin was limited. We're expecting him to play. Heath likes him quite a bit. Let's see.

Brandon Cook's practice in full. Nico Collins did not. He missed practice. Chris Moore was limited. We're expecting him to play. Heath likes him quite a bit. Let's see. Brandon Cooks practiced in full. Nico Collins did not. He mispracticed. Chris Moore was limited. Who do you like better, Brandon Cooks or Chris Moore at Tennessee? I have a sneaky feeling Brandon Cooks comes back and surprises us. So I ranked him ahead of Chris Moore now. Neither one will be in my top 35 probably.

But, yeah, I kind of like that. Actually, I put Cooks at 36 and Moore at 37. Okay. There you go. Deontay Johnson was limited. Devontae Parker mispracticed. Julio Jones was limited. So if you have Russell Gage, keep that in mind.

Julio Jones was limited, might play this week. T. Higgins practiced in full. That's good news. That can give you a little more confidence to start him. And Cortland Sutton was limited. At tight end, Dallas Goddard's going to play. Noah Fant missed practice. We're hoping he plays. I got a good stat on him later in the

show. Hayden Hurst practiced and he expects to play. Tampa Bay, could you imagine if Donovan Smith doesn't play this week? Their left tackle, he missed practice with a foot injury. These are offensive line notes here. And Tristan Wirfs is making progress but they've had one offensive line

injury after another. More news. Looks good for the Jets tonight. I mean, Corey Davis is going to play, but on defense, LaMarcus Joyner and Quinnen Williams are both trending in the right direction. Chase Young could play for the Commanders this week. Linebacker Jordan Brooks for the Seahawks was limited. Miles Garrett and DeSean and Jadeveon Clowney, pardon me. Miles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney are both missing practice. So we'll keep an eye on that. And Calais Campbell and Marcus Peters missed practice for the Ravens. Jets up to two-point favorites now.

Really? Interesting. Why? I don't know. What the hell do I know? Well, they're playing at home. They've won more games than Jacksonville this year. Yeah, Zach Wilson, though. They have a better defense. And I think the bad weather, like if you're taking away the ability to pass, that benefits the Jets, because they already can't pass. I'm such a jinx anyway.

Knicks had an eight-game winning streak. I finally bet them last night, and they lost. All right, let's go to one question for each game here. Green Bay at Miami. Heath, do you have any concerns about starting Aaron Jones? No. Why would I? Because he

split pretty evenly with A.J. aj dylan he lost the goal line work no can you expand on that a little bit i i have lots of concerns that's the game of the week for the game of the week yeah yeah. The Packers at the Dolphins, yeah. Okay, sorry, Heath. Can you expand on that a little bit? Welcome to the game, Heath. This is the thing you've been doing all year?

Yeah. Dave's too smart. Dave gets it every time now, so sorry we had to do it to you. It doesn't bother me. It's fun, right? It's inspiring music. Yeah. It reminds me of the Real Men of Genius commercial. That's exactly, right? It's inspiring music. Yeah. It reminds me of the Real Men of Genius commercial.

That's exactly. Yes, that's what I said. Yes. Good. Okay. Sorry. I know you don't. But yeah.

All right. You know what? I'm going to give you two games here, right? Packers, Dolphins, and Bengals, Patriots. Any concerns about Aaron Jones or Joe Mixon with workloads potentially changing? Just so everyone knows, Aaron Jones, you look at the numbers from last week, and it doesn't look that way,

but A.J. Dillon left. He was in the concussion. He was evaluated for a concussion, and before that, the numbers were very even, and even on third downs. So anyway, Jones and and mixin what do you think there i i guess i have a little bit more concern about mixin because he's playing the patriots um and because his his workload like he only had one carry in the first half last week

we've seen aaron jones workload kind of bounce all over the place and you always have that slight concern he's had more disappointing games this year than I expected, but he's still on the whole been very, very good, and I'd have no even thought of benching him. Okay. Mixon, would you bench Mixon for, say, Dobbins? Yes.

You would? Okay. Would you bench Mixon for Ken Walker if he plays? If he's a full go. All right, so Jamie, that brings us to our next game, Seattle at Kansas City. Who is the best running back in the Seahawks-Chiefs game? The best running back in the Seahawks-Chiefs game

is Jarek McKinnon. Even if Ken Walker's full go? Yeah, I think so. I mean, the fact that he's banged up a little bit is not encouraging. And the concern really for McKinn is you know the lack of carries for any running back that you know is so reliant on his receiving totals but how do you get away from what he's done at this point you know and so miko hardman's return could could certainly ruin that

and you know you've noted this a lot you know game flow can can ruin that potentially if he's if they're playing with a big lead, which would not be a big surprise. But Heath has alluded to this, that it feels as if they're trying to ramp him up for the playoffs. And that could certainly be something that they're using, plus the Pacheco fumble last week. So I think you just got to ride the hot hand at that point, at this point.

Dobbins or McKinninnon full ppr i still lean dobbins but i could i i can't really fight anybody that's going to go the other way based on how mckinnon's looking heath who you got i've got mckinnon oh i'm so nervous what about hardman does that matter because his his production's really taken off since Hardman went on IR. I don't think it matters. Listen, you don't know which section of the red zone playbook Andy Reid's going to be in this weekend. But they've been very, very cautious when they brought Juju back from the concussion.

I think he played 35% of the snaps. We saw Cadareous Tony get eased back in last week. I don't expect Hartman to play a full complement of snaps at all. Who's your favorite real man of genius? I don't think I remember any of them. Mr. Vending Machine Repairman. Mr. Really Bad Toupee Wearer. What? Really Bad Toupepee wearer. What?

Really bad toupee wearer. No. No. I did watch, speaking of this type of humor, I did watch Office Christmas Party last night. Oh, what did you think? Three and a half stars. Out of 3.75? Out of five.

Oh. It's fun. It's very fun. Nothing wrong with it. My wife fell asleep, okay i'm sorry i i i realized after that i should have recommended the night before which is better but hopefully you can watch that one next okay chargers and colts start all chargers sit all colts uh yeah perfect who would you rather start as a waiver wire pickup let's say it's half ppr Colts? Yeah. Perfect. Who would you rather start as a waiver wire pickup? Let's say it's half PPR.

Marquise Goodwin at Kansas City or Zach Moss against the Chargers? I would start Goodwin. Goodwin. Okay. Vegas at Pittsburgh. Do you have more faith in Darren Waller or Deontay Johnson this week? In full PPR, Deontay Johnson. As a flex, it's Deontay Johnson and not particularly close, but Darren Waller is a tight end, so that helps him a lot.

Well, look, I mean, Deontay Johnson with Mitchell Trubisky is a must-start player, but it's going to be Kenny Pickett, and he's about 11 points usually with Kenny Pickett, something like that. 11 would feel pretty good for Darren Waller most weeks. Yeah. Waller, what did he play? 40% of the snaps? I don't remember.

Not a full snap share. Had a touchdown, so hopefully it gets worked in a little bit more. Okay, Atlanta at Baltimore. My question was about J.K. Dobbins, so I will pivot to another one. This is going to sound a little... Is there somebody else in this game besides Andrews? Yeah, you know, the Saints have

a terrific defense now. It's past defense. And Drake London had what was it, 7 for 70 or so against them? He did have a fumble. So, can you start him at the Ravens? Drake London. Low end number three? Could you?

Yes. Should you? Probably not. I mean, it's a bad weather game with a quarterback going outdoors in this environment that he's probably used to. I mean, he played Cincinnati,

but I think this is going to be a defense that's going to make him really uncomfortable. Plus, it's going to be a low-scoring game. In PPR, could he be a number three receiver? Sure. I don't think he's going to score. And Marlon Humphrey may make things uncomfortable for him. Are you going to do the official weather report

for each game at the start of each game, Adam? No. Because I don't know what the weather forecast is in Baltimore. Cold with light wind. Yeah. I mean, the way I'm approaching it is we'll see what happens tonight, but I expect a lot of rain. The two games that you'd like to avoid, especially the non-must starts,

are the Cleveland-New Orleans game, everyone in the passing game there, which Jamie already said, and the Buffalo-Chicago game, which is interesting. Very interesting. You know, I guess Stefan Diggs, is that a tough call for you guys? I'm not sitting him. I mean, I dropped him from top five to top ten.

I wonder if it actually helps Dawson Knox, because I don't think they're just going to not throw the ball and whenever it's more short area targets, then Knox gets more targets. It can put to rest any Gabe Davis debate. That's for sure. The other games are just cold. I feel like guys going out there in freezing temperatures is not going to be

quite as good. Slight downgrade in a lot of those outdoor games. Finally, Houston at Tennessee. Is Derrick Henry the only player worth starting? Yes. I don't mind Jordan Akins.

Titans have given up quite a bit of production to tight ends, and he has five or more targets in three of his last four games. Question is, though, do you start him? I don't know how many people are starting him at this point like you could tight end premium league you know desperate desperate desperate situation but i'm with you i think you could play well he's a good dfs play well how about akins or okonkwo

akins akins for sure especially if it's malik willis and trailing birks back yeah new orleans at cleveland do you like the running backs in this game? We're avoiding the passing game, but do you like the running backs, Kamara and either Chubb or Kareem Hunt? I think you've seen what Kamara probably is at this point. And it's, you know, probably 18 to 20 carries moving forward and minimal role in the passing game plus the weather factor in that regard. So he's going to get his share of work, but Chubb should get upwards of 15 carries if he's fine. I think Chubb, good number one running back if he's fine, and Kamara, good number two running back.

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So, stat of the game. In their last eight games, only four wide receivers have more than 70 yards against the Dolphins. They are Kalief Raymond, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Mike Williams, and Keenan Allen. Only three wide receivers in those eight games have scored a touchdown.

Who are the ones who have been bad, like good ones? Amari Cooper was terrible. Ayuk was bad. The Bills wide receivers were bad. So I don't know if they're really getting better, but at least they're not getting destroyed anymore by wide receivers. So anyway, Jamie, I don't think anyone's starting Lazard at this point.

Probably not Dobbs. What do you think about Christian Watson? I think you'd gamble on him as a low end, number two, high end, number three receiver, you know, so if you've been starting him and you don't have better options, you just hope that the touchdown comes as he just missed on one last week. Um, if you have better options, like I have him in one league where I have Christian Kirk and Juju Smith Schuster and AJ Brown. So he's out for me. Um, but you know, if I, if, if he had scored, I would have had probably a tougher decision to make with, with probably Kirk.J. Brown, so he's out for me. But, you know, if he had scored, I would have had probably a tougher decision to make with probably Kirk.

But I think, you know, you saw last week, you know, there was another mouth to feed, a talented mouth that they like in Romeo Dobbs. And so someone was going to lose. It was Lazard in a big way, but, you know, Watson did as well. And so this is a team that's running the ball very well. You see what they want to do in the red zone at this point. They want to run the ball. And so he could get the Xavier Howard treatment,

so it could be tougher for him even on top of that. Yeah, he got a decent amount of the Jalen Ramsey treatment last week, and that had a big role in his quiet game. But Watson also had one end zone target and two green zone targets I believe in that game so still involved there um Heath uh what do you think about AJ Dillon and his emerging role any interest in him this week I think he's a really really good flex I wouldn't want to start him as a top 24 running back, but he's a solid,

solid flex that has the upside to get you a big day and get into the end zone against the dolphins. But there's also the risk that he has something like seven carries for 30 yards and catches one pass or two passes. So not much floor. All right. Jay in our chat wants you to rank Bam Knight, Ken Walker and AJ Dillon.

Walker Knight, Dillon. Walker, Knight, Dillon. Walker, Dillon, Knight for me. The thing like there's four guys that I struggle with. It's Latavius Murray, Raheem Mostert with the potential of Jeff Olsen coming back, DeAndre Swift, and Dillon.

And when you look at those guys, three of them are coming off huge games. Swift has clearly struggled the last couple of weeks, but you can see him having a big game against the Panthers. So if Jeff Wilson plays, I would play Dylan over Mostert. If Latavius Murray continues to be on the injury report and you hear anything about Chase Edmonds having a bigger role, I'd play Dylan over those guys. So he's right outside my top 24. I agree with you.

He's a good flex. Better in non and half PPR than he is in full PPR, although give him credit. He's got three catches in three games in a row. This could be just the guy we were waiting for all season to finally start playing like this. He's finally starting playing like this.

It makes sense, like home games this time of year to run AJ Dylan a lot because who wants to tackle that guy in cold weather? Obviously not an issue this week, though. It's going to be cold in South Florida. It is. What's it going to be, like 70?

50. Oh, okay. The catches for Dillon, it reminds me just a little bit of Pacheco because his catches had been up, but he wasn't running any more routes. And that's the same thing with Dylan. He did play more on third down last week, which is good,

but he hasn't really been running more routes. So I don't really know that there's an explanation for the catches, and that's a little flimsy. It could always go back to zero, one catch, something like that. But he does have nine catches in his last three games. Aaron Rodgers, you guys have any interest in him? With all the cold weather out there, with all the bad weather, this is, I guess, 50 degrees, but still won't be bad conditions for Rodgers. Heath, start or sit Aaron Rodgers? Muted. Right around 15 or 16 for me. I would start him over Derek Carr.

I'd start him over Deshaun Watson. I had him. I was going back and forth between him and Purdy. I would start him over Purdy. I would definitely start Gardner and Renshew over Aaron Rodgers. He's in that 17 to 19 point range. The only thing that makes me a little leery about sitting Aaron Rodgers is Vegas has this game at a very, very high total.

And so is that they're expecting Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon to go nuts, in which case, clearly, you know, what Heath and I are saying about A.J. Dillon is wrong, because I don't think Aaron Jones is going to score, you know, three touchdowns in this game. Or Aaron Rodgers has a big game here. Now, he has not played well on the road for the majority of the season in terms of his fantasy production. He's obviously not playing well as a fantasy quarterback the last three games overall. And so can he snap out of that against the dolphins? Their pass rush has not been to the level I think that they wanted following the chub trade and their secondary still has some issues aside from Howard.

So can he find some holes? You know, it wouldn't surprise me, but I think you just have to be pretty in a tough spot that you couldn't get Minshew and play him over Rodgers. It's just, he hasn't even had 230 yards passing since week nine. Yeah, it's crazy. On the other side, Tua. Heath, you got him third. Jamie's got him seventh dave has to a seventh and you know vegas is expecting a lot of points in this game i think it's fair to say the

dolphins offense has not been itself in the last three games i think probably steps in the right direction against the bills but they really haven't been themselves lately also three straight road games too so now they're back home. Yeah. They're at San Francisco, a second game on the West Coast at the Chargers, and then at the Bills. But they stayed. I mean, they did stay on the West Coast.

It's not like they were traveling. That's a terrible stretch. I think they get back home against probably the worst defense that they've seen in a month and put up a big number. Is Green Bay worse than the Chargers? And the Chargers give up a ton of points,

and Tua sucked against them. But, all right, fair enough. The only thing about Tua is that big stretch, right? 35, 30, 29 points. Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland. Two of those games are super easy matchups. So, I don't know. I'm just...

Yeah, I think you got, you gotta trust that, you know, he's not that guy in terms of the ceiling. He's also not the guy that we saw, I think in terms of the floor, you know, he was getting you 17 points and 13 points in this three game stretch. I only,

well, he got 21 against the, the 17 was against Houston, their last home game, but you know, 21 against the bills. I think that's probably a little on the low side of where he should be i think he's probably a 23 point guy this week so can he exceed that you know

potentially but the you know he sort of alluded to this before when you're looking at the landscape of for us ranking and i'm sure for some lineup decisions he does not have weather concerns you know so that that's something i think that's a benefit to somebody who's got the ability to give you you know a 40 point game yeah so dave and jamie have them seventh and heath you have to a third you think you're going to stick with that ahead of burrow ahead of herbert that's the thing is like having a guy that doesn't have weather concerns and doesn't have matchup concerns um herbert herbert doesn't i guess, but Herbert hasn't shown us anywhere close to the upside that Chua has this season. Okay. Let's talk about

the Dolphins running backs here. Everyone's going to start Tyreek Hill and just Jalen Waddell. You guys must start? Must start. Yes. Okay. So the Packers... The Packers have a really bad run defense now. They are giving up five yards per carry to running backs.

Cam Akers had a good game against them. Cam Akers had his longest carry of the season against them. Yeah, so, Jamie, your thoughts on Mostert if he plays? And you already said you'd put him behind Wilson. But with and without Jeff Wilson, what do you think of Raheem Mostert? And I guess Jeff Wilson. Mostert, I think you have to treat as the lead guy. That may flip on its head again because we saw when they made the trade,

Wilson was the guy for that two or three-game stretch before they went on this three-game trip. So I think coming off the game he had against Buffalo with 150 total yards, he should be the lead guy. But if Wilson is there, I think they're both high end flexes. So I would take the, the, the production of what you've gotten from Dylan the last three weeks over the one game of Mostert in terms of just comparing them. But Wilson, who knows how much he'll pull down Mostert in terms of production. So the thing about the Dolphins run game, and you

mentioned it, that the matchup is good. It's always dependent on what Mike McDaniel wants to do. Does he actually want to run the ball? You run the ball you know we've seen that a few times where they just want to throw a throw and throw some more and the you know we're going to get a lot of this this weekend probably you know if if weather and matchup allows it pro bowl snubs two it was the fan vote yeah and did not get to pro bowl yeah um so i i would imagine you know for a guy certainly his nfl career that's you know taking some of these things to heart, and his coach seems to be somebody that has his back, I wouldn't be surprised to Heath's ranking

if Tua comes out and goes for 303 based on, look what you did to my guy, look what I didn't get, and I'm going to show you I deserve it. If Jeff Wilson were out, would you skyrocket Raheem Mostert? Would he be a must-start? Would he be a must start to, you know,

would he be ahead of Dobbins? No, we have Mostert ranked right now as if Wilson's not playing. And where do you have him? 24. Yeah. Why so low? Just because of the uncertain rushing role,

the uncertain game plan, right? Like the only, the only thing that we've seen from them is, Oh my God, it's going to snow. Let's run Raheem Mostert. You know,

like that's, well, my take on it was, they didn't do it against the chargers and that run defense was all. And that's that. I thought they learned their lesson and I thought that's what happened, right? They,

they got way too pass heavy, not nearly balanced enough and got back to it a little bit. Um, and I, And it worked. I think you have to do that. I think they just got too predictable. But that's just my theory. I don't know if that's true. Alright, so never mind. I guess he's not a must-start guy then.

No, I think he's a good number two running back if Wilson doesn't play. But this is not a bad week for running backs too. I think you could find some good production from a lot of different guys. And so, you know, you want to compare him to Dobbins,

for example, because you asked about that. He had one catch, you know, so it's not like the role in the past game is dramatically different for him than it is for Dobbins. Yeah. All right.

Cincinnati is at new England here. You're going to sit Mike Kosicki, by the way, Bengals and the Patriots. I don't know. It's kind of, I feel like this is an obvious game, but I'll give you a stat anyway.

Tee Higgins is averaging just under eight targets per game with Jamar Chase. That does not count the games that Higgins left early with his injuries. And all of this season, there have only been

two wide receivers who have had big games with fewer than eight targets against the Patriots. But I'm sure you're going to start Tee Higgins, right? Yep. Yes. I don't want to meander on this game

if we don't need to here. It's like you start Burrow, Higgins, Chase, Stevenson, and then we can talk about Mixon, but not going to start Jacoby Myers, are you? Number three receiver in PPR. Low um number number three receiver in ppr low end number three ppr did he have a good game last week what happened with jacoby myers last week uh did you hear uh did you hear horowitz's call by the way i did yeah yeah that's the thing is

like i could see a situation where jacobyoby Myers doesn't get to play this week. Oh yeah. I feel bad for him. Or maybe they come out and give him like four targets in the first quarter. I don't know. The thing you got to wonder though, and I know he took ownership for it. Was that really his call?

What do you mean? Because the way that it looked could have been like okay we're gonna try and win this now let's try and get a miracle player no way i cannot imagine that they would be that stupid to do that i think you watched the rest of their offensive play calling this season no chance that they okay obviously the probability of winning on that play is so low. The probability of it being returned for a touchdown has got to be higher. This is a good example of what we've seen.

I think they just made a mistake. Dave said it on the show Sunday night that, you know, what you guys, I guess, whoever he was watching with, the theory was Stevenson flips it back to him and then it just triggered something in Jacoby Myers' brain, like, oh, okay, we're doing the lateral thing now. And he just kept going with it.

That's probably true. Yeah, and I don't think Stevenson was supposed to do that. No way. If that was called by the coaches, everyone, including Belichick, Robert Kraft should be fired. I can't imagine that was called by the coaches. I'm just saying. I can't imagine they punished Myers.

They need a win. They do need a win. All right, so are you worried about either Mixon or Stevenson in tough matchups? I mean, the Bengals run defense is an absolute beast with DJ Reader. And then Mixon is losing a little bit of playing time. And the Patriots are no picnic here. So I guess talk about these running backs. They're both number two running backs for me,

not as high as I've ranked them for most of the season. I would start J.K. Dobbins and Jarek McKinnon over both of them. Wow. In full PPR. Oh my goodness. I kind of get it over Mixon, but over Stevenson? He's just been so good. That shocks me.

Jamie, are you also on that? McKinnon over Stevenson? No. I think, you know, Stevenson will go back to his role in the passing game now that he's, you know, practicing on a limited basis. And that, I think, still gives him a flow.

You know, I'm not going to look at what he did catching the ball last week as where he's at right now. So I think he will have a significant role in that regard. And then Nixon, I think you just got to treat him as a number two running back as opposed to a number one. So you're still starting him. But this Patriots running defense has been a little leaky lately.

Yeah. And for all the talk about P. Ryan, I mean, P. Ryan's had almost no touches the last couple weeks. What has he had? Five touches and eight touches the last two games. But the snaps are down for Nixon. Heath, are you ranking Stevenson a little bit lower, expecting Damian Harris to play?

I'm just not certain that he's going to have the eight, seven to 10 targets that he had. And I do think you look at a couple of difficult matchups he's had over the last few weeks, like against the Jets, he had 15 carries for 26 yards. Now he caught six passes for 56. Against the Bills, he had 15 carries for 26 yards. Now he caught six passes for 56. Against the Bills, he had 10 for 54 yards,

six for 24, so 78 total yards. If he doesn't score a touchdown, and he didn't in either one of those games, then he's not anything more than a number two running back. Yeah, of course. I think you'd say the same thing about McKinnon. Right. Yeah.

By the way, the Raiders, they went into the game last week giving up four yards per carry to running backs. Very good. Now they're giving up 4.3 because he averaged nine yards per carry against them last week. I know most people don't think of the Raiders as a tough matchup, but he had an unusually good running performance against that team. Okay.

All right. No, it's a fair point. See if the passing game rule comes back. That's it, right? We're good with this game? Hayden. Oh, if Hayden Hurst plays, would you consider him? Not really with everybody healthy for Cincinnati.

And Tyler Boyd is... Joe, Kobe Myers or Tyler Boyd if you're desperate? Myers. Myers. And that is it for this game. Bengals DST. Always do that, right? Always forget the DST.

They're a low-end starter. Hope you don't have trouble finding a DST this week. You should be good. Seattle's at Kansas City. There have been... Okay. All right, let's talk about Marquise Goodwin. Here we go.

There have been 15... That's not the game of the week. What's that? That was just not the game of the week. What's that? That was just not the game of the week. I'm not loving what I'm seeing from Seattle lately. But their fantasy guys will deliver. Sinking. Yeah, but the game of the week has to be a good game.

Well, they played the 49ers. Who did they lose to before that? They lost to the... Panthers. Panthers at home. Red Hot Panthers. Yeah. You say you're not loving what you've seen from Seattle, but the Texans almost beat

the Chiefs. What do you think? What's the spread here? Chiefs minus 10? Come on. This can't be the game. It's the over-under though. This is not the Bonanza, Jamie. You're confusing game of the week with Bonanza. This could easily be a

41-27 game. That're confusing Game of the Week with Bonanza. This could easily be a 41-27 game. That would not make it the Game of the Week. It would make it the Bonanza. But I have higher standards for Game of the Week. It has to be a good game. Anyway, there have been 15 wide receivers with 8 or more targets against the Chiefs. 14 of those 15

have scored 12.9 or more PPR fantasy points. And of course, the only one who didn't was the guy who broke my heart last week, Chris Moore. Four for 42 on nine targets. But can you get eight targets against the Chiefs? If you do, you're going to have at least 12 points, at least 13 points, basically, which is a very nice floor. Tyler Lockett has had seven, 12, nine, and nine targets

in his last four games. Kansas City sees the ninth most wide receiver targets for football. Heath, you're the high guy on Marquise Goodwin. What did you end up projecting for him? I've got him ranked as a high-end number three wide receiver. I've got five catches for 60 yards and about a 50-50 shot as a touchdown. I'm the high guy on Marquise Goodwin now, buddy. You are?

Nice. Like it. All right. Where do you guys have Marquise Goodwin? I just looked. I have him one spot higher than me. Okay. I think you must have moved him up a little.

I adjusted my rankings this morning, so I don't know when you looked. I've got him at 20. Well, I had him 28, but Chris Moore will move behind him now, so it'll be 27. Is that where you have him, Jamie? We're tied! We're tied. Alright, it's pretty interesting. Who are some names that you'd start Marquise Goodwin over that might surprise people?

The Snow guys in Cleveland. So, Cooper, I guess, would be the biggest name. Deontay Johnson now with the quarterback change. The one that I'm struggling with, honestly, is Michael Pittman. So they're back-to-back for me. But D'Alan Chark, Slayton.

Ayuk. Ayuk, yeah. Yeah, so Slayton was interesting. You guys both have him ranked ahead of Slayton? I have Slayton at 22, so no. Oh, okay. Jamie has Slayton at 29 and Goodwin at 27.

I guess you have faith in the passing game, right? I mean, Geno Smith bounces back this week? For sure. So it's interesting to say he bounces back without Tyler Lockett. You know, it's a funny thing to hear because he's losing arguably his best receiver to expect him to be better. So you've got to hope that garbage time matters here, chasing points that he's losing arguably his best receiver, to expect him to be better. So you've got to hope that garbage time matters here,

chasing points that he's throwing a lot. The only thing that makes me a little nervous is Pete Carroll sees that offense on the other side of the ball, sees that they're a 10-point underdog, and let's just run the ball because we're going to try and slow down the game and take the ball out of Patrick Mahomes' hands. I can see that if Ken Walker's healthy, but I don't know how long that will work. And I think Geno's probably 40-plus attempts again,

and so hopefully he's getting production from either good winner or fan. And that's, I think, the two most logical options to help him replace Tyler Lockett. Davis Mills had 22 fantasy points against this defense last week. Yeah. Russell Wilson scored 30 fantasy points against this defense two weeks ago. Like, this is a spectacular matchup. I can't believe I didn't pick him up.

I'm so mad at myself. I can't believe it. Because this is going to be the difference. I was going to beat Heath. I was going to beat the undefeated myself. I can't believe it. Because this is going to be the difference. I was going to beat Heath. I was going to beat the undefeated team. I can't believe it. Have you looked at the projected score, the scoring preview? No.

You are currently projected to win by 0.69 fantasy points. It would be more like 5.69 if I had Geno Smith on my team. God. Idiot. All right. So, Ken Walker or Christian Watson? Walker. Walker.

Ken Walker or Juju Smith-Schuster, who's a better flex in this game? Juju and-Schuster, who's a better flex in this game? Juju and PPR. I don't think of either of those guys in that way. They're both, I think, top 15 guys at their position, but I would go Walker. Okay, fine. Ken Walker or the Cowboys running backs? That's both Cowboys running backs now.

I have a Pollard, Walker, Elliott, but they're all great starts. All right. Do you get bothered at all by the fact that the Seahawks give up the third fewest fantasy points to wide receivers as we talk about Juju Smith-Schuster? Does that do anything for you? No.

Oh, Noah Fant. Here's my Noah Fant stat. He has five games this year with five to seven targets. And here are his fantasy points in those games. 7.9, 10.5, 14.6, 14.2, 14.2. So that is four games out of five with double-digit PPR fantasy points when Noah Fant has had five to seven targets.

That's pretty good. Obviously, we have a void to fill here with Tyler Lockett. The Chiefs are 19th against tight ends. They're not that bad, but they're not great. So, yeah. Would you start Noah Fant over the Saints guys? Over David Njoku? You'd have to, right?

Over Njoku, for sure. And Saints guys, yes. Okay, so let's get out of that game, then. Would you start Noah Fant, who's, by the way, on the injury report, or George Kittle? Kittle. Kittle. Fant or Mark Andrews?

Andrews, if Jack's in place. Andrews. How about a somewhat struggling TJ Hawkinson? Hawkinson. Hawkinson. Hawkinson. All right. Fant is, however, in play. Top 15 for you guys.

Where's Dave have him? 12. Okay. Kansas City running backs. You want to talk a little bit? We already discussed it a little bit, but Jamie, how do you think it plays out? So the Seahawks are another really good matchup for Pacheco,

and it's just so funny. If he had not fumbled maybe last week, people might be a little bit higher on him this week. I get the sense that they aren't. But your thoughts on the Kansas City running backs. I know you like McKinnon better, but how do you see it playing out? I think you just have to start McKinnon based on what he's done, and then you consider Pacheco as a high-end flex.

And so just hope that, A, he's not punished, and, B, that they give him some opportunities to potentially score. So I wouldn't be surprised if he has 80 yards rushing again. It's kind of been where he's lived when he's been used prior to last week. And one or two catches. So I think I'll go back to that foursome that I referenced before of Mostert, Murray, Dillon, Swift. He's right behind those guys.

You know, so, you know, if like I have one team where I have Josh Jacobs and I've been kind of cycling through my second running back and my choices are pacheco zach moss zonovan knight and uh the panthers guys i'm starting pacheco overnight yes okay if it was if it was not zach wilson then i thought that there would be a role in the passing game for him and then i would start night yeah i've got night ahead of pacheco still i do think pacheco has some significant upside in terms of the guys who are ranked as flexes. But he's also, like this was his fourth fumble. I think he is in that category of guys that if he fumbles in the game,

he probably doesn't play again. Yeah, good point. I think he could get benched for good. He does have 82 or more total yards in six straight games. So that's giving you a decent floor. He's not killing you. Doesn't score a lot of touchdowns.

Doesn't catch a ton of passes. And fumbles, Isaiah Pacheco. Jarek McKinnon, you said you like him more than Ken Walker. How about David Montgomery or Jarek McKinnon? You know my answer. Montgomery. Montgomery. All right.

So let's go to... I have a Jarrett McKinnon dilemma. I want to see what you say, Adam. Heath gave me his answer yesterday. Start Mahomes, start Kelsey. Go ahead. In one league where I was the one seed, so I had a bye playing the four seed, I think.

My team has been basically Mahomes and Kelsey, and I've been rotating through, this is the team I referenced Christian Watson. So playing Juju. So three chiefs, um, AJ Brown's my other receiver and I'm playing Christian Kirk. Cause I think he's going to be okay despite the weather tonight, but that's also a question one. So my running backs for the most part have been Miles Sanders and and jamal williams brian robinson sort of cycling through but i have dobbins now so i'm playing dobbins and i'm mckinnon do i go all in

on the chiefs no and play mckinnon mahomes juju and kelsey miles sanders over mckinnon i don't know if i can do it you're're going to go McKinnon? I think so. I'm not going to say that no hurts is good for Miles Sanders, but it might be good for Miles Sanders. I agree. They're going to lean on him and maybe throw to him more. I think Miles Sanders and McKinnon are both remarkably similar because either one of them could be a top three running back this week,

and either one of them could have 12 touches for 40 yards and no scores. I could bench Juju. No, I don't think he'd do that. Juju has been, man, so good in five of his last six games with a normal snap share. 16.8 or more PPR fantasy points in five of his last

six basically normal games. I don't know. We can do a YouTube poll. You want the YouTubers? I think Kirk was who I said I'd bench, right? All right, so Schaefer, why don't we do a YouTube poll and let our audience decide. Who do you bench?

What's full PPR? Full PPR. Christian Kirk. How many options can you have on YouTube poll? Four options, but you're going to bench one of these three guys, right? Kirk, Juju... No. Oh, yeah. Kirk, Juju, Sanders,

McKinnon. Bench one? Yes. Can we make that happen? Give me a thumbs up? Okay, cool. I think Kirk's going to win that poll. He was the worst last week, so that's how usually the masses decide. Who's going to lose it? I think Kirk will be the one to get benched by the poll. Well, Sanders was the worst last week. That's how usually the masses decide. Who's going to lose it? I think Kirk will be the one to get benched by the poll.

Well, Sanders was the worst last week. Oh, it's true. Yeah. I think McKinnon's going to win the poll. Okay, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about the Chargers. When you win, that means you sit? Yeah, you sit. Right. You win the poll and you sit.

You take a break. That's what you do. We'll be back on FFT win the poll and you sit. You take a break. That's what you do. We'll be back on FFT. Chargers and Colts. Well, the Chargers are terrible in the red zone. 26th in touchdown rate in the red zone. The Colts allow the third highest conversion rate in the red zone. So hopefully the Chargers can explode here.

Unfortunately, they face a lot of bad red zone teams and they just still suck in the red zone. But that's what's holding back Justin Herbert. That's what's holding back some of these players. Justin Herbert has four games this season with more than 23.7 fantasy points. Three of them were in the first four weeks of the year. Last year, he did that eight times, more than 23.7 fantasy points. So it just hasn't been the same boom season. Obviously, you got the injuries. But my first question, guys, you're ranking Justin Herbert in the top six,

top five for both of you, actually. His production hasn't really justified that. Jamie, justify the confidence that you have in Herbert. Well, I would say two games ago, he looked like Justin Herbert again. First game back with a healthy Mike Williams for a full game and Keenan Allen for a full game uh and what seemed like forever and it was so disappointing to see what happened against the Titans you know and so I don't know if that was getting just confused a little bit by some things Mike Rabel did and

the defense but the fact that he didn't light up that secondary at home was so frustrating. So you have to take that into account. I still think though, whenever he has his full complement of weapons, he's going to look like Justin Herbert. And so this Colts team, this move to me is even more further. We're tanking, um, with benching Matt Ryan again, cause I don't think Ryan is the reason why they've been losing games. And so pace of play is going to be a little bit of an issue because of the Colts. I don't think Ryan is the reason why they've been losing games. And so pace of play is going to be a little bit of an issue because of the Colts. I don't think you should look at what this secondary gave up last week as an indication of where they are, but I don't think they're also as good as the numbers indicate. What I mean by that is, you know, Kirk Cousins could have lit them up in the second half,

but, you know, so Herbert can do that. But I think this is just one of those situations where I'm buying into the talent, I'm buying into the talent around him, and I hope thaton staley and lombardi don't screw it up again like that's the whole thing like i know the red zone struggles but you've got mike williams now and keenan allen and you had some guys going deeper like he's averaging 6.3 air yards per attempt. The bottom five in that stat, Matt Ryan, Justin Herbert, Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford. One of these things is not like the other.

Let him throw the ball down the field. I want to dig into that a little bit, though, because he throws to his running backs more than anyone else. So I wonder if he actually does have a fairly good amount of intermediate and deep throws, but just because he throws to Eckler so much, it pulls down the ADOT. But point taken. They're very conservative. Alright, so Herbert, start. Eckler,

start. Eckler's a little bit limited lately, but yeah, start him. Keenan Allen is top 13 in non-PPR, so obviously he's higher than that in full PPR. Mike Williams is top 15 for you guys. Go right back. Heath, he's back to being Mike Williams.

He's a boomer bust every week. Why the confidence in Mike Williams this week? Because the booms are so great because we have so many games being played in adverse conditions, and Mike Williams is playing indoors. And because like, while he is boom or bust his floor this season in the games that he's stayed healthy over the last six or seven games, hasn't been too bad. Like last week I guess was a bust, but he had 10.7 PPR fantasy points. That's not what the bust used to be.

Josh Palmer starter set. That's not what the bust used to be. Josh Palmer, start or sit? Sit. By the way, if you didn't see it, the throw at the end of the game from Herbert to Mike Williams is one of the more amazing throws you'll ever see. Maybe do that five times a game.

The best throw he made this year, as I recall, was on that Thursday night game against the Chiefs to DeAndre Carter. It's hard for me to even remember what it was, like up the seam. I just remember being completely blown away by it. But he does that a lot. He's also another potential Pro Bowl snub, national TV game. This is what you missed.

Does anyone really give a crap about going to the Pro Bowl, though? They care about the bonuses that they get for being named to it, yeah. Did you see the video? What team did it? One of the teams had a video this week of their coach telling the guys they made the Pro Bowl, and those guys cared a lot. Oh, it was the best video you'll watch all week. It was Ron Rivera telling the guys in the commanders.

I mean, if you don't cry at the end, I don't want to spoil it, but if you don't cry at the end, you've got issues. That's cool. Hey, you're going to go do a skills competition and play flag football. That's cool, though. That's cool. Anyway, it's hard to know exactly what Kenny Moore means

to the Colts' defense, but since he's been out the last two games, they have been much worse against the pass. Gerald Everett. Heath, you still have him as a start in PPR. He is number 12 per game in PPR. He catches four or five passes every week. Is it just a floor play with Gerald Everett?

It's just a floor play. I don't think it's impossible that he could score a touchdown. He's getting you in that 8-9, 8-10 point range. His targets have not been as impacted as I thought they might be, having both Mike Williams and Keenan Allen on the field. And it's an awful— At the beginning of the week, I was thinking I would definitely have David Njoku and Juwan Johnson ahead of him,

but I can't do that anymore. So, Noah Fant or Gerald Everett? I've got Everett. I have Fant this week just for the upside. Let's talk about the Colts here. Who's a better flex, Zach Moss or Michael Pittman? Pittman. Pittman Pittman Pittman why is it that

we're not starting Zach Moss against this Chargers defense well A it's Zach Moss B it's Nick Foles C it's the Colts D it's Zach Moss

E it's Nick Foles alright and then that's it start Pittman we don't have any guarantee that Zach Moss is even going to lead the Colts running backs in touches. It's also another part of the problem. If it was a certain thing, if we had three games in a row

where Zach Moss was getting 15 to 20 touches every week, then I think that would be a different situation. But we don't have any guarantee at all. I think last time that they went and added Jordan Wilkins, because they added Jordan Wilkins to their practice squad again, he came in and was their passing downs back. Okay. It would be very

close to bench Quentin Nelson, start Nick Foles, and go with Jordan Wilkins. Would you start Michael Pittman or DJ Moore against the Lions? I actually like DJ Moore this week, so that's kind of an easy call for me.

Isn't that crazy? I've got Pittman ahead of Moore, but they're both within three or four spots. Come on, Heath. This is your week. Yeah, come on, Heath. Vindication week. This is Heath Cummings' week.

From what DJ Moore has taught me this season is when I get excited about DJ Moore, it's the wrong time. So now I'm going to stay where I'm at on him. And you guys, he's had three games with Sam Darnold. Two of them have been great. Yeah. All right.

I'm not sure how many games we have left. Three or four. Vegas is at Pittsburgh. Stat of the game. A running back has scored at least one rushing touchdown in seven of the last eight games against Las Vegas. How is that the stat of the game? I sent you the stat of the game.

Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I've got to find it now, but I just assumed that you would have it on the ready so that you could read it off. Derek Carr said, thank you. Stinks in cold weather. Well, the reason why I went with the Najee Harris stat, a running back has scored at least one rushing touchdown in seven of the last eight games against the Raiders because you guys are pretty different. Last I checked on Najee Harris. Cold weather Carr. He has played eight games against the Raiders, because you guys are pretty different. Last I checked on Najee Harris. Cold weather car. He has played eight games in his career in

40 degrees or below. This game is projected. What? Only eight. He is one in seven. His team has averaged 16 points per game. He's completed 56% of his passes, thrown nine touchdowns and eight interceptions

in those eight games, has a passer rating of 72.9, and has averaged 13.1 fantasy points per game. He's played four games in freezing temperatures, and it's even worse, 11.3 fantasy points per game for Derek Carr in freezing temperatures. So any hesitation on Devontae Adams? fantasy points per game for Derek Carr in freezing temperatures. So, any hesitation on Devontae Adams? I dropped him down to like 12th. He's playing cold, though.

I think he's alright. He might be the skeleton key for Derek Carr in cold weather. He's got the cold weather receiver now. Alright, so I'll sum up the Raiders then. Sit Derek Carr. Everyone's got him around 20th. Start Josh Jacobs. Start Devontae Adams. Sit the other receivers. And Darren Waller is

a start. He's a tight end. Jamie, you're the highest on Waller. You have him fourth and non. Well, I don't know. As of this morning, you had him fourth and non and sixth and full. I have not tweaked my non-PPR rankings. He'll be lower, and he's seventh in full. Okay.

Dalton Schultz or Darren Waller? That's the tipping point for me right now, so I have Waller one spot ahead of Schultz. You're going to move Njoku down, right, Jamie? You got him seventh of what I'm seeing. You need to refresh, my friend. You have Njoku 13th.

Okay, that makes more sense. There he goes. Okay, so then let's go to the Steelers. We're going to sit Pickett. Start or sit Najee Harris. Jamie, you like him. Heath doesn't really like him quite as much in full PPR. Go ahead, Jamie.

So I think what you've seen from Najee Harris is clearly, I think, what you should expect. You know, lack of work in the passing game, chance to get, you know, 80 to 100 yards rushing and chance to score. The fact that, you know, the unfortunate passing of Franco Harris, I cannot see a scenario where Mike Tomlin does not try to give Najee Harris the opportunity to have a big game. To let those fans celebrate somebody wearing the Harris jersey and go nuts in that stadium in a primetime game, Najee Harris may be a top five running back this week. Just based on how that city feels about that name, clearly a different player, different person,

but it could be a huge, huge Najee Harris game to celebrate Franco Harris. On the night that they were supposed to retire his jersey, the 50th year of the Immaculate Reception, and he passes away, it would not shock me at all if that game is all about Najee Harris. Yeah, just as a running back. Especially in cold weather, too. It sets up for a run game, a Pittsburgh run game.

Right, right. This feels like old-school Steeler football in this matchup. All right, Heath, I guess you're taking it from the non-intangible side here, but you still have him pretty low. 24th in non-PPR, 27th in full PPR for Harris. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I just think it's all about whether he scores a touchdown. He's been absolutely awful with Jalen Ward on the field

in terms of fantasy production and it's whether or not he gets into the end zone last week he it was a Steelers run game game he ran the ball 24 times and gave you 86

yards and did not have a target or any scored didn't know he didn't have a target he did score yeah it's actually even scarier look at the last three games that

he scored one touchdown in he scored 10.9 13., and 14.6 points per game. I'll take away the 10.9 game because that was the Colts game. He left with the injury. So he scored in two straight games 13 points and 14.6 PPR fantasy points, which is fine. It's not great. But one of those games was Baltimore.

He only had 12 carries for 33 yards. We've seen multiple games over the last two months where he gets 20 touches and can't get to double-digit fantasy points unless he gets into the end zone. Yeah. He probably needs two touchdowns to have a great game. And he could.

If that's what the Steelers are doing, then you may be able to do that against the Raiders. Okay. I'm going to give you trivia here. There are three running backs that have 100... Hold on. Let's see. Three running backs out of 28 that have 150 or more carries

and only have zero or one run of 20-plus yards. So again, 150 or more carries and zero or one run of 20-plus yards this year. Three of them. Can you name the running backs? I know it's not Latavius Murray because I've seen his two 20-plus yard carries. So these guys are most than Latavius Murray.

Najee Harris is one of them. He has the most carries. 211 carries and one big play. Two others. Just based on your history, I'm going to guess David McCartney. You typically

put Zeke in this category too. Is he one? No. Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams has two. Leonard Fournette is the third. Okay. Deontay Johnson or Michael Pittman? Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams has two. Leonard Fournette is the third. Oh. Okay. Deontay Johnson or Michael Pittman?

Pittman. Right now, Pittman. That could change. Deontay Johnson or Marquise Goodwin? Goodwin for me. Goodwin right now. Drake London or Deontay? Deontay.

Deontay. What do you think about Pat Fryer? He's been struggling lately. No catches last week, dealing with an injury. What do you think here? He has his quarterback back. He does. He's been very matchup dependent.

Carolina's actually pretty good against tight ends. Raiders are not. See, that's a myth, though. Ra Carolina is actually pretty good against tight ends. Raiders are not. See, that's a myth, though. Raiders are actually pretty good against tight ends. Okay, yeah, we can go through that, right? They gave up four touchdowns to Kelsey in Week 5. None since. It's very top-heavy.

57 yards to Aikens in Week 7. Kylan Granson. No, 57 or more yards to Aikens, Kylan Granson, and Gerald Everett. Lately. So you don't think it's a good matchup? I don't think it's as good as the numbers indicate because I think it's very skewed from what happened early in the season.

You want to sit Friar Muth? For me, once I get past tight end five, it's like, okay, who has a chance to get probably north of five targets? I think we'll get north of five targets with Kenny Pickett back under center. So I'd start him over to Joku. I'd still start him over Fant.

I'd start him over Komet. I'd start him over Jawan Johnson. So he's 10th for me. Yeah, he's outside of my top 12. I would start Fant and Everett over him. We have three games left, and these three games have about five starters combined. So we won't take long on them. I will check in with our YouTube poll. Sit one of these

players in full PPR. Miles Sanders, Jarek McKinnon, Juju Smith-Schuster, Christian Kirk. One of these guys has 54% of the vote, and no one else has more than 20%. Who do you think is running away with the sit one of these players poll?

Kirk. It's either Sanders or Kirk. It is Christian Kirk. What are you going to do? I don't know. See what the weather is tonight by the time it kicks off. Alright, let's go to Atlanta at Baltimore. I have a lot of Trevor Lawrence this week, so I'd like to just continue to go

all in with the Jaguars. The rain feels awful. Yeah. Atlanta at Baltimore. Are J.K. Dobbins and Mark Andrews the only guys you're starting? Well, actually, we have to talk about Lamar Jackson. Let's do the Falcons first. Heath, the Falcons. No, thank you.

Tyler Algier is a flex. Drake London is a low-end number three wide receiver better in ppr than a non i would start london over algier but he's not a top 30 wide receiver and algier is not a top 30 running back okay jamie lamar jackson if he plays would be QB what for you? 13. Okay. So Minshew ahead of him? Yes. All right.

And then J.K. Dobbins is the start of the week. We like him quite a bit. Sit Gus Edwards. Sit Demarcus Robinson. Mark Andrews. Who would you guys start over Mark Andrews? Of the non-normal variety, I guess it's just Dawson Knox.

I don't even know what the normal variety is anymore. I would sort of have an Ingram over him. I would start an Ingram over him as well. To me, he's surpassed Mark Andrews at this point until I see something from Andrews. Well, I think seeing something, the something that I want to see from Andrews is Lamar Jackson. At least you can make bank on like 60 yards.

He wasn't exactly great the last couple of games with Lamar Jackson. I think he was in the, you know, 11-ish PPR range, right? And I think two of his last four games with Jackson, either Andrews left after 10 snaps or Lamar left after 10 snaps. Like, they've only got like two games together in the last two months that they both

played. Yeah, I think the last game he played, the last, yeah, he was right around 50, 60 yards, four, six catches, you know, 11-ish PPR fantasy points, three straight games with Lamar Jackson. So I would start that over Evan Ingram. I just don't know if we're going to know that, because of the weather.

I don't know that we're going to know if Lamar Jackson's playing by tonight. Okay. Well, it's a Saturday game, right? Yeah. So if he does not practice again, you got to assume what his designation is. I don't want to shortchange this game.

I feel like we covered it. So you'd start Dalton Schultz over Andrews? I would as of now, yeah. I would not. I don't like Schultz very much. How about Dallas Goddard or Mark Andrews? I would as of now, yeah. I would not. I don't like Schultz very much. How about Dallas Goddard or Mark Andrews? I'd start Goddard over him. Yeah.

Houston at Tennessee. Okay. I don't really want to get... I mean, this is just the Derrick Henry show. What do you think about... I mean, Derrick Henry is a slam dunk. Derrick Henry and a Texans wide receiver will be a number three receiver. Cooks or Moore. And who do you think about... I mean, Derrick Henry is a slam dunk. Derrick Henry and a Texans wide receiver will be a number three receiver.

Cooks or Moore. And who do you prefer? Right now, Cooks. Probably Cooks, but... Okay. Are we done with the Jeff Driscoll tight end experiment? Or do you think it's worth a look? I was never participating in that.

Done. Okay. experiment or do you think it's worth a look i was never participating in that done okay that's that's it all right titans dst is in play top nine for everyone uh saints at browns i don't think i've ever previewed a game quite like that um All right. How much do you like Kamara and Chubb? Just to repeat something we said an hour ago. Jamie? Kamara, number two. Chubb, borderline number one. Keep an eye on the health for Chubb. If Chubb is out,

Kareem Hunt is a very good number two running back. Yep. It is really avoid the passing game at basically all costs. Would you start Brandon Cooks over Amari Cooper? Would we go that low? That is exactly where I have both those guys right now. So I have Cooks. I lied what I said before. I have Cooks, Cooper, Chris Moore. I think I would probably, I like am doing everything I can scraping the waiver wire to not start a wide receiver in this game. This could be a game where there's negative net passing yards. Cooper has been clearly dealing with something because he's on the injury report every week with the hip problem.

He has not connected well with Deshaun Watson. Watson has had a better connection with Donovan Peoples-Jones. The Jokers scored in two of three games with Watson, but again, you're talking about the number one team against tight ends in the Saints. Granted, some of it is who they played, but the numbers are the numbers. The weather's going to be awful. Absolutely awful.

Now, we said that going into the Buffalo game last week, and for three quarters, it was not awful. Take that into account, but I think everything that you're seeing and reading, and if you're following it, it sounds like, what did you call it, the Cyclone Bomb, Heath? It's the Bomb Cyclone.

Bomb Cyclone. That does not sound fun. So it could just be absolutely terrible. The Saints are altering their travel plans to get to Cleveland. It just seems like it's a terrible game. I mean, I feel like Kamara could be really good. I don't know what kind of upside you guys think he has. I know he never scores and isn't catching passes now,

but he's had a tough schedule this year, but he usually comes through in the easier matchups. I mean, you're starting. It's a matter of the situation I'm dealing with, where you've got good options and you've just got to figure out who's the odd man out. Well, would you start McKinnon or Kamara? I'd start McKinnon.

Oh my gosh. Both of you would. Yep. Wow. In non PBR, I start Camara. Man, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

All right. That's it for this guy. The guy's got 66 PPR points in the last two games. I know, but his touchdowns are so fluky. But what if Pacheco is benched? Well, okay, that'd be another story. You know whose touchdowns are not fluky?

The guy who doesn't score them, yes. I do think Taysom Hill is an interesting player because of how the weather is going to unfold. Sure. All right, going to be some interesting things to watch. I would actually come to Saints. I would play Taysom Hill over Dalton this week. Well. Oh, yeah, for Saints. I would play Taysom Mill over Dalton this week. Well.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, that makes sense. All right. Thanks, everyone. Thanks for watching and listening. Good luck to you. We have a live stream today at 2 p.m. Eastern. We'll hopefully have updated weather information for the Jets-Jaguars game.

We'll see you then. If you talk a few more minutes, I'll look through the box. YouTube.com slash Tennessee Football Today. It's not that's game. We'll see you then. If you talk a few more minutes, I'm going to do a box. YouTube.com slash Tennessee football today. It's not that late. Later.