Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Dolphins, Mahomes, Pats RBs and More (10/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 3, 2024After discussing Rhamondre Stevenson's job security, we tell you why it should be a big week for Brock Purdy as we talk about players we love (5:50) this week! Which players are we avoiding (10:30)? D...on't rush to get Xavier Worthy in your lineups. Is Tyreek Hill a sit this week? ... News and notes (18:30) plus One Question for Each Game (23:50)! How do we feel about Zay Flowers, Zack Moss and Khalil Shakir this week? Are Rashid Shaheed or Kareem Hunt good starts? ... Start or Sit for Ravens-Bengals (29:50), Cowboys-Steelers (38:50), Bills-Texans (46:05), Browns-Commanders (53:40), Saints-Chiefs (1:01:00), Dolphins-Patriots (1:08:00) and Raiders-Broncos (1:11:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Welcome, everybody.
Thursday, start or sit for most of the AFC home games
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Here are the games we're breaking down today.
Baltimore at Cincinnati, Dallas at Pittsburgh, Buffalo at Houston, Cleveland at Washington,
New Orleans at Kansas City, Miami at New England, and Las Vegas at Denver.
You're not going to hear the Colts-Jaguars preview today.
I figure I'm going to wait another day.
Let's see what Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor are looking like.
So I substituted that with Cleveland at Washington, if you want to get into my thought process.
My thought process is also it's 7 in the morning, 7.08 a.m.
It's the earliest we've ever done a show.
I was thinking that, isn't it?
I think so.
Maybe like Thanksgiving morning or something like that in the past we've done a show.
But I hate this.
I am miserable and really angry right now.
So this is how I feel when you guys say,
let's just record at midnight. I've got to get the
kids to bed first. That's how I feel
then. I'm ready to go.
I don't think I slept at all,
so I'm good. Really?
I went to...
I purposely took a two-hour nap at like nine o'clock
and then I realized
because I set up most
of my leagues to run waivers on Wednesday because I'm
smart unlike you Adam um so I set up my leagues to run waivers on Wednesday but for some reason
it's the most waiver moves I've ever made oh me too there there was like four or five leagues
I had to make like not not that I got these players but like 15 yeah ad drops yeah and it took me so long
it's so annoying because you you have like one guy you want to drop so you put in six claims for
six different people to drop the same guy and then you have to open then for the other five guys who
were you know two through two six in the priority you have to do another ad drop with another player
right like it's just it's super annoying that's how i do it maybe there's an easier way to do another ad drop with another player, right? Like, it's just, it's super annoying. That's how I do it. Maybe there's an easier way to do it.
You could just drop a couple of players
from your roster the night before.
And then add 17 guys
and then just, like, drop them later.
Right, Thomas?
Thomas?
So, also, and part of the process
of, like, staying up late,
like, once waivers run,
like, I'll go back and look through
who got added, who didn't.
And I usually catch most leagues.
And I was so pissed this morning when I woke up
and I saw that you picked up Antonio Gibson in the IDP league
after waivers ran because I didn't check that league.
Yeah, I was up super early, so thanks.
I dropped him last week, and then that's a pretty deep league.
Yeah, Antonio Gibson, that's big news.
Ramondre Stevenson has fumbled in all four games this year
and they're talking about maybe giving Gibson
more work.
I did see a tweet
and I'm not giving credit because I can't remember
who it was and I'm a terrible person. I'm sorry.
Antonio Gibson is the only person
in the NFL who
has fewer carries per fumble
than Ramondre Stevenson since Stevenson
entered the league. He's the only running
back who has fumbled more than Steven since stevenson entered the league like he's the only running back
who has fumbled more than stevenson since they both entered the league yeah i probably made a
mistake being about no i didn't make a mistake but it probably won't pay off but anyway let's
i don't think you made a mistake no look this is this isn't necessarily just a week five thing
um i read um this morning a pretty in-depth story from The Athletic on it, which detailed how Gerard Mayo just continues to preach
ball security is job security.
That's one of his mantras, which is probably the same for most coaches.
And we know how Belichick used to be.
One fumble, you're on the bench.
So Stevenson was talking about how much faith that they've just shown in him,
Elliot Wolfe and Mayo have shown shown in him and he feels like
he's letting down so this is probably more just you're put on notice as opposed to you're going
to lose your job so it wouldn't be surprising if the first drive goes to Gibson like I didn't I
don't know about you Heath like I didn't move for Mondre in my rankings at all but I just moved
Gibson up you know just with the thought of he's now a potential flex i
mean he's basically been a flex performing like a flex two of four weeks this season and with four
teams on a buy and just the injuries like he's not a bad dart throw against the dolphins defense
it's been awful i i moved remandre down into that i mean he's still a top 24 running back because
there aren't enough running backs to not be but into, I don't know how many times he's going to touch the ball range
with Rashad White and Javante Williams
and Chase Brown.
Yeah.
Well, the good news is they're not,
probably not going to get blown out this week.
They've lost two straight games
by 17 or more points, the Patriots.
This week, they play the Miami Dolphins.
It's one of the games we'll be previewing
in just a little bit.
Players, we love.
Jamie, who's our star of the week?
So it's funny because Ramon Chet was actually one of the contenders. I'm glad I didn't go that route
because that would have been a quick rewrite yesterday. Uh, it's Brock Purdy. Um, he's had
a very weird season so far with his best game coming when his two of his best receivers were
not there in George Kittle and Debo Samuel in week three. He's got a great
history against Arizona. We know the Cardinals past defense has not been good. Two of three,
two or four quarterbacks this season have gone over 26 fantasy points. He has 23 or more fantasy
points in all three of his career meetings against Arizona. It's time for these guys to have big
games. I'm expecting it for Debo. I'm expecting it for Kittle. I'm expecting it for Brandon Ayuk.
I think this is going to be a three-touchdown game for Brock Purdy
as he starts to find the end zone a little bit more.
He's been playing very well,
just has not had the touchdown success that we're used to seeing.
And I think it happens this week against the Cardinals.
So, as you see, top seven quarterback for me.
Dave's a little bit higher.
Sports line is very high.
Heath is, I'm sure, going to give me a good counterargument
for why he doesn't like Brock Purdy.
Yeah, I looked at that and I was like, I'd like to have Brock Purdy in my top 12.
So I moved him up to 11th.
But like Jamie said, it's been a very weird season.
And this Arizona offense at times has looked like they're not going to be able to score against San Francisco.
This could be a game where San Francisco just runs it 35 times.
Brock Purdy has 25 pass attempts.
But he's been awesome.
He just hasn't gotten the touchdowns in every game.
Yeah. Alright. Brock
Purdy, start of the week, and
Jamie has him back-to-back with Joe Burrow.
One spot behind
Burrow or ahead? I'm sorry.
Burrow ahead. Burrow's going to be in a shootout
with the Ravens, so I like Burrow better this week.
Okay. Yeah, Purdy, you know, what's weird is that he's toward the bottom,
third lowest yak per completion,
which is the staple of San Francisco.
He's not getting that, but also his air yards,
he's got the second most air yards per pass attempt,
so he's throwing the ball a lot deeper this year, 10.4.
It doesn't really matter, just kind of different strategies strategies so far maybe they're healthy now maybe things will change
all right heath who do you love this week i love bobby witt and the kansas city royals i gotta
give him that's like i know it's a football show but you know we're getting ready to go up against
the seven billion dollar empire with the 320 million dollar payroll and they've got the
monsters lineup with the micro machine stadium i haven't seen a lineup like this since the 1998 all-star game when they had barry bonds and mark
mcguire and sammy so-so all in the same lineup i uh i just just wanted to give your love to the
royals very much overrating the yankees the yankees have two good players they are really
not good and they should not be any type there's maybe a a slight thing. If the Royals, if the Royals win this,
it's basically like 1980 Olympics and Hoosiers,
you know,
put into one.
All right.
Who do you like in fantasy football?
Do you enjoy that?
I look,
I'm happy.
I,
I think it's going to be fun series.
That's really cool.
That,
that Bobby Witt and Aaron judge are going to,
are going to,
in some capacity,
go head to head.
I think that's cool.
I love W's cool. Make a bet.
I love Wanda Robinson.
How's that for a surprise?
It's a surprise.
I,
we were talking about this yesterday,
but 27% target share the giants and this Brian Dable offense brilliantly
just throw all of your passes to your two good pass catchers malik neighbors with a 37
target share robinson right behind him at 27 he's been basically 10 plus ppr fantasy points in every
game but one 12 or better and i think all but one so i i don't think his role is going away i think
the giants are going to continue to have to throw the ball quite a bit.
And Robinson's a number two wide receiver for me this week.
Okay. Wow. And are you doing that on the premise that Malik neighbors is not going to play?
Because he did not practice. You think he will play?
This is with Malik neighbors and we are currently projecting Malik neighbors.
And maybe it's a bit inconsistent, but I think it's because neighbors had the three extra days to get through the protocol.
We're still currently expecting he will get through the protocol.
If neighbors is out,
then why like Wandale Robinson a little bit more,
but not a lot more because some of the benefit of Robinson is the other
teams are putting two guys on neighbors.
Yeah.
So I,
I am not super encouraged by what Brian Dable said.
He said he's in the early stages of the concussion protocol.
We'll have to pull him if he doesn't practice today.
I was kind of banking on neighbors playing,
but I would caution everyone.
We'll see what happens today.
You'll know before.
Obviously, you have to make your Thursday night decisions.
All right.
Players to avoid.
Jamie, who are we sitting this week?
If you can. If you can.
If you can.
Tyrico.
Yeah, the thing that just keeps me a little bit optimistic is that,
first of all, I feel like he's due.
It's three straight terrible games.
Of course he's due.
And Tyler Huntley actually, I was looking this morning,
he's had 11 games where he's played 86% or more of the snaps,
and he's thrown 30 or more passes in seven of them.
So I think he only threw like 22 passes last week.
That's actually kind of low for him.
But Tyreek Hill was open.
Tyreek Hill could have had a big game.
It's not like Waddle.
It's not like Waddle's burning guys and, you know.
You know Waddle's actually been better since waddles burning guys and you know because a lot has actually been
better slightly left right it's like all right but yeah all right tyree kill so i think you guys
have them right around 20 20 second or something yeah this is not a outright must sit you got to
get him out of your lineup situation this is if you have better options and we've seen a lot of
guys play better you know than than tyree kill Tua has gone down in this second half of week two.
You just have to understand that he could make your day.
I think he said this yesterday on CBS Sports Network.
He can make your day in one play.
He's that good, and he almost, as you said, Adam,
he almost had him for a big play down the field against the Titans.
I think this is an easier matchup than what he had last week,
so take that into account, and maybe even the last two weeks,
because Seattle was healthy when they played them in week three up there.
And then Tennessee's defense is, I think, again, one of the better ones.
I believe they haven't allowed a touchdown to a wide receiver all season,
if I'm not mistaken.
They're the only team that's done that so far.
So this is not the same level of opponent.
But you just got enough of a sample size at this point that without to a
Tyreek is human.
Did you drop Tyreek below Garrett Wilson?
Yes.
That's the one that I struggle with.
I was like,
I don't know.
Garrett Wilson's going to be any good either.
So I think I have Tyreek,
maybe a couple spots.
This might be Garrett Wilson's best matchup that he's had so far this season.
Minnesota.
Yeah.
So I would take my chances with Wilson.
I don't want to make this about me, but let me just give you my Tyreek Hill scenario.
I can start four of these five guys.
Pickens for sure.
So I can start three of these four.
Tyreek Hill, Rashid Shaheed at Kansas City,
Romeo Dobbs at the Rams, JSN against the Giants. Yeah, I'm not sitting Tyreek Hill, Rashid Shaheed at Kansas City, Romeo Dobbs at the Rams,
JSN against the Giants.
Yeah, I'm not sitting Tyreek there.
I would much, yeah.
Shaheed, if it was just Shaheed,
that one would be really difficult for me.
He's another guy that I have projected for more points,
I think, but I can't drop Tyreek behind.
I have them actually back-to-back,
Tyreek ahead of Shaheed.
I'm sitting JSN as of now.
I think low pass volume for the Seahawks.
Dobbs is the guy I would sit.
I would sit Dobbs.
Maybe I'll sit Dobbs, but all right, all right.
I'll start Tyreek Hill.
That's what we're doing.
Heath, who are you avoiding?
I would like to avoid Xavier Worthy.
I know with Rasheed Rice out, people might think one of the Chiefs wide receivers is going to be good. I'm not sure
that they will be. Even in the games that he's been good, week
one, he had three touches. Week four, he had a 14% target share.
They haven't yet found a way to get him super involved in this offense.
You're just kind of hoping for that one big play. He's done it two out of four weeks.
If you needed a boom-b bust flex, then I understand it.
But I wouldn't just thrust him up into a starting role because Rice is gone.
Okay.
Total there is 43 and a half in that Saints-Chiefs game,
which I actually kind of felt like was a little high.
Those are good defenses there.
All right.
Purdy and Juan.
Chiefs are always still going to be valued high.
I don't know that they should be, but.
I mean, it's just, I think.
Well, you got to factor the last, the fourth quarter touchdown.
Like it probably will be like 35,
but then they're going to score in the last four minutes.
Okay.
Purdy.
It'll be a call that benefits them somewhere along the way.
Oh, for sure.
Purdy against the Cardinals, Wanda at Seattle.
That's who we love.
Tyreek Hill is,
if you can,
try to avoid him,
but not necessarily
a blanket avoid.
And Xavier Worthy,
who's about 30th or so
in the rankings for everybody.
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A lot of content for you on Sunday morning, CBS Sports HQ.
Are you adjusting your time for that, Jamie?
I know you're usually on at 10 a.m. on HQ.
No, we're doing our show at 9 o'clock.
Is that happening?
Is this the second full start?
No, I don't.
I mean, look, I'm planning on it.
I'm hoping for it.
9 a.m.
9 a.m. YouTube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday.
We're hoping for it. And on CBS Sports? Thank you.
Yeah, okay. Is that official?
I mean, last I heard, unless something's changed.
But it wasn't yesterday.
Oh, it changed again yesterday?
No, it wasn't official yesterday.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I went out and I kind of announced it like it was,
but it definitely wasn't official.
I was under the impression that we are,
that I will be doing four hours of programming myself on Sunday.
Okay.
Not myself, but I will be on for four hours.
I think, well, yeah, there'll be something at 9 a.m.
and then at least at youtube.com slash fantasy.
You know what?
I can guarantee you there's going to be something at 8 a.m. There's a, at youtube.com slash fantasy you know what i can guarantee there's going to be something at 8 a.m there's a yeah fft express yeah yeah we'll have
the best nine minutes on youtube yeah and then again from noon to one um for sure we'll be there
so let's let's recap what we think we have we have you guys at 8 a.m for nine minutes
then we have what we think is our live stream
for an hour from 9 to 10
on YouTube and HQ.
Then
HQ from 10 to 1.
Okay.
Yep. And then you,
Dave, and Heath
from 12 to 1
on YouTube.
Yep. Gotcha YouTube and of course
I'm going to have to be up
until 2 in the morning watching a college football game
the night before
I saw something like the equipment truck
is still driving
for that game
they're going to game day
Josh Pate tweeted something I think
like it's the longest trip for
a school this year.
Oh, Miami to Cal.
Yeah, makes sense.
All right, let's get into the news and notes.
Anthony Richardson was limited at Jacksonville.
Russell Wilson's making progress on the night game against the Cowboys.
Justin Fields, we're expecting him to start.
Bijan Robinson's off the injury report for tonight's game.
Jonathan Taylor missed practice.
So if he misses practice again today,
you got to start like Bucky Irving over Jonathan Taylor, right?
If that's your only option and you don't have Trey Sermon,
then probably.
Yeah.
I dropped Taylor because I try to manage this with the rankings.
I dropped him behind White.
I didn't drop him behind Bucking,
but maybe I should go behind Bucky too.
Okay.
Uh,
we got Antonio Gibson possibly getting more carries.
Robert Sala was a little bit vague about the jets goal line role.
You guys concerned about Reese Hall's value.
I wonder like what we would do.
I think you guys did this on Wednesday,
so I apologize.
But,
um,
like if we knew that Algier and Braylon Allen were going to be so involved,
and Christian McCaffrey was going to be out,
would there be a running back in the top 10?
Barkley.
Oh, Barkley, yeah.
I had Paul at five yesterday, but this made me a little nervous.
I probably would have to readjust that.
He was great the first three weeks. I don't think anybody should panic because what happened in week four
because it was just a disaster all the way around but i it's like look but brie saul's gonna be fine
but it's uh it is a little a little annoying that brother now has been so good i i am mostly, like I would still draft
Hall where he is. If you just told me what was going to happen
the first month of the season,
he's still getting almost 20 touches a game.
Like, they just have a lot of running back touches
available. The problem is
for Garrett Wilson in the passing game.
Like, let's do some
sort of trade where Devontae Adams
gets what he wants. He goes to the Jets.
They send Garrett
Wilson back in return. So at least we can get him freed up to be a number one receiver still
somewhere. And Braylon Allen is somehow part of this deal, like a three-way deal that he goes to
Dallas. Oh yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. All right. Let's fire through the rest of these here. So I
don't think I mentioned this Brian Robinson. He missed practice with a knee issue. We'll keep an
eye on that. And Cordero Patterson and Jalen Warren
both missed practice,
and they got that Sunday night game
against the Cowboys.
Wide receiver news.
So Mike Evans is going to play,
but Jalen McMillan and Trey Palmer
are out for Tampa Bay.
And also just some more Bucs news.
They're going to be again without Tampa,
without right tackle Luke Gedeke
and defensive tackle Kalijah Cansey
and safety Antoine Winfield.
So they're a pretty injured team right now going into this game tonight at
Atlanta.
But if you are starting Kate Otten,
you're probably sorry.
It's probably happy that McMillan and Palmer are both out tonight.
Tank Dell practice.
Seems like he's trending toward playing Deontay.
Johnson is expected to play.
He didn't practice.
Christian Watson will not go on.
I are some great, great matchups for the Packers passing game coming up. Watson, we don't know
when he'll be back, but right now he's not going on IR. Malik Nabors mispractice. Again, I mentioned
you should be just a little wary of Malik Nabors right now. Don't just expect that he's going to
play. Khalil Shakir mispractice. I would think that he's fine. Brandon Cooks has an infection in his knee, and he's out for week five and possibly longer.
Was anybody motivated to make a claim for Jalen Tolbert?
Deeper leagues, it's a good ad,
but I think he'll be somewhat inconsistent.
He creeped into my top 48 wide receivers for this week.
Okay.
Just barely.
Tight end news.
TJ Hawkinson is going to practice on Friday.
So that's going to open up a 21-day window for him to be activated.
So that's pretty cool.
Evan Ingram.
Actually, we have good tight end news.
Evan Ingram was limited.
Trey McBride is looking like he's going to play.
And David Njoku practiced.
So how many of Ingram, McBride, and Njoku have you guys ranked?
McBride.
Just McBride. I Njoku have you guys ranked? McBride. Just McBride.
I think our conversation via text was we'll see what Ingram's status is today.
I don't think we discussed Njoku, but it's probably the same situation.
If they both get in limited or better,
they'll probably be in our rankings by the end of the day.
Ingram, 73% rostered.
Njoku, 78% rostered.
Offensive line, Patriots.
This is more bad news for Rom Monterey Patriots center.
David Andrews is expected to miss the rest of the season.
Arizona right tackle Jonah Williams could miss the rest of the season.
According to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN bills left tackle Dion Dawkins,
mispractice Houston left tackle Laramie Tunsell's day-to-day some defensive
injuries to know a couple of Giants cornerbacks are missing practice.
They missed last week's game Jair Alexander for the Packers
cornerback, he missed practice. They're at the
Rams. And the Patriots, two defensive
backs, Jabril Peppers and Kyle Duggar,
they missed practice. One question
for each game. Did you get Austin Eckler?
I didn't say that. I'm sorry. Austin Eckler,
are you ranking him?
Not yet, but there are a lot of people picking up
Jeremy McNichols, at least in my leagues,
and it's probably going to be a mistake.
Unless Robinson is out, but if you're counting on Eckler being out again,
I don't think you're going to get McNichols performing like that
maybe ever again this season, but he's going to need both guys to be out.
What can Austin Eckler say that Brees Hall can't?
That he has scored double-digit PPR fantasy points in every game this
year.
Well,
they both can say they've done it in three games.
Yes.
But Eckler has done it in all three games in Brees,
all three or four.
All right.
One question for each game,
Baltimore at Cincinnati.
Are you starting a bangles running back or Zay flowers?
Flowers in PPR.
I've got it., Flowers, Brown.
They're all very close.
Dallas at Pittsburgh.
Starting a running back in this game?
Najee.
Yeah, I don't know how you get away from Najee this week.
What if Patterson and or Warren play?
I think the fact that they elevated a running back,
I forget his name, from the practice squad
is a pretty telling sign that they're both going to be out
since they both missed practice on Wednesday.
Warren, who knows when he's coming back,
and Patterson getting hurt and not practicing on Wednesday
after leaving with an injury.
So this should be the Najee show.
At some point, he's going to fall into the end zone.
That's what you got to hope for at this point.
You know, the catches have been nice to save him the last two weeks.
He has not been good.
Offensive line has not helped him.
But this Dallas defense is very beat up right now.
And that should allow the Steelers to, I think,
have a potentially good offensive day.
I just asked you about Zach Moss, Chase Brown, Zay Flowers.
Where's Najee
Harris compared to those guys ahead of all of them? Yep. Okay. Just a, here's a note on the,
on the third down roll. Cause Najee Harris does have 11 targets in his last two games.
Last week, Najee ran five routes on third down. Aaron Shampklin ran five routes. Cordell Patterson
ran one. Shampklin was the third down back in the first quarter when Patterson was healthy.
He ran two of two routes.
But yeah, I put in my notes, Najee Harris has a chance for catches.
He has 11 targets in his last two games with Justin Fields throwing 32 to 34 passes.
Fields threw only 43 passes combined in the first two games.
But 10 of Najee's 11 targets have come on first in the last two games, but 10 of Najee's 11 targets are,
have come on for in the last two games have come on first and second down.
So if that's kind of like,
uh,
kind of like what Jalen Warren was doing,
you know,
so Najee,
I think has benefited there.
Uh,
all right,
next game.
One question for Cleveland.
Nope.
Buffalo at Houston starter,
sit Khalil Shakir.
Must start in three receiver leagues. Desperation
start in two receiver leagues.
I'd like to see how much he practices
on Thursday and Friday.
I've got him as a
very much in
the Xavier Worthy area,
but ahead of him.
Low-end number three wide receiver.
Cleveland at Washington.
Who's a better flex, Jerome Ford or Terry McLaurin?
Is Nick Chubb playing?
Is that really a possibility?
I mean, I know he's practicing, but...
I mean, they opened the window.
So knowing that guy, he gets on the field.
I'm sure he's going to look good and probably ready to go,
which is, you know, great. My guess is no to look good and probably ready to go, which is great.
My guess is no.
Obviously, if Jerome Chubb plays, then no.
But if Chubb doesn't play, then yeah, Ford or McLaurin.
You're saying Ford, Heath?
I am.
I would take Ford as well.
Okay, great matchup.
New Orleans at Kansas City, Kareem Hunt or Rashid Shahid?
Is Clyde playing?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, he's been activated.
Why wouldn't he play?
I'm just, you know,
I'll throw that out there.
Well, his situation is different.
There's not a 21-day window for him.
He's just back, right?
Like, he's off.
Yeah, he was.
He's on the NFI list,
so it's not the pup list.
I would probably still take Kareem hunt over.
I've got just barely.
Okay.
Miami at new England.
Do you,
do you trust from Andre Stevenson?
He has a number two running back.
This is,
this is,
this is if he has a big game,
sell high.
Najee or Ramond Ray.
Still Ramondre for me.
Oh.
Heath?
I'm reading on this Clyde thing
because it does sound like there's something kind of weird
the Chiefs did procedurally
where Edwards was listed as return to practice.
Okay.
So I'm not sure that Edwards is back this week.
We're just dropping the second part of his
last name yes okay c-e-h clyde hilaire okay uh all right yeah maybe i'm wrong it says the our
update on our site says clyde edwards hilaire is returning to practice this week and should be
available for games soon well remember their first practice is today, so we'll know.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think he's definitely returning to practice.
I think he does remain on the list as well.
He's just able to practice.
Las Vegas at Denver.
Is there a single good start in this game?
And then I put other than Brock Bowers, but honestly, I'm going to include him because
he's been bad the last two weeks.
Is there a single good start in this game,
Las Vegas at Denver?
Given the nature of running backs this week
and the fact that the Broncos just lost another guy,
I'm going to say Javante is a good start.
Sutton is a good start in three receiver leagues.
And Bowers is a must start
because you better be loaded at tight end
to consider sitting him.
Yeah, I don't even know.
I would not consider sitting Brock Bowers.
Two bad games is not bad.
I mean, he has two good games, Adam.
Yeah, no.
He's only been four.
That's fantastic at this position.
There's just, there's scenario where people are,
like, you know, for me personally
and other people in my leagues
have picked up David Njoku
and Evan Ingram.
No way.
I'd play them
hours and hours.
Yeah,
all right.
And the Broncos
DST is fantastic.
And it's only,
wait,
maybe I have it
mixed up.
They're either 20,
maybe they're 69% roster.
Let me see.
Broncos DST is,
oh,
79%.
There's one DST out there
that seems so appealing.
Patriots? Patriots.
Patriots.
I think they're 29% rostered or something.
They're not that good, though.
Yeah, 29% rostered.
Okay, let's go to...
Neither are the Dolphins, but they're playing each other.
Yeah.
Baltimore at Cincinnati.
Stat of the game.
The Ravens have actually allowed the most completions of 20-plus yards
and the most completions of 20-plus air yards.
However, only Dak Prescott has had a good game,
and he basically had like a good quarter.
Mahomes, Minshew, Josh Allen, they did not do well against the Ravens.
So it's a bit of a weird stat.
And, you know, Jamie, you have Burrow ahead of Purdy,
just one spot ahead.
Burrow has really bad history against the Ravens, except one year
where the Ravens had the worst pass defense in football.
And he lit them up twice.
But yeah, your level of confidence
in Burrow, Chase, I know everyone's
starting, and T. Higgins.
I believe the highest score
expected for the week.
Yep.
And I don't think this is a game...
So I'm a little bit nervous about both Zach Moss and Chase Brown.
Again, the running back position being what it is,
it's hard to get away from what Moss has done in three or four games.
But that being said, I think this is a game where they're going to be throwing a lot.
And so in a game where Burrow's throwing a lot against a defense that,
like you said, they've been good at times this year.
They've been good for the majority of the season.
But I still think you give Joe Burrow 45-plus attempts with how this offense is going to operate with the receivers being healthy.
I'm not sitting him.
45, that's a lot.
Yeah, I would not sit him either with 45.
No, yeah, and I should correct myself because I confirmed what Jamie said. That game was game was 51 i think at the start of the week 50 and a half it's dropped down
to 49 now so the highest over under is now 49ers and cardinals but it's definitely up there okay
uh so i i'm sure i asked this yesterday but i'll ask it again baker mayfield tonight or or joe burrow
baker burrow for me. Okay.
And then, yeah, Moss and Chase Brown.
Who'd you guys rank higher?
Moss, right?
Moss.
Yep.
Dave, you know, let me, you know what?
Dave's not on the show today.
He's not.
But just going to share his thoughts on the Bengals' backfield.
He said,
Cincinnati went to a true running back by committee last week with the only defined role being Moss in on most third
downs and exclusively in with the two minute offense.
He scored to end the first half,
but Chase Brown was much more explosive and the coaching staff seemed to
realize it,
giving him a 54% snap share in the second half,
including their only snap inside the five,
both rotated with each other on every series on first and second downs.
Moss played more third downs in the second half
just like the first.
If the Bengals figured a trail in week five,
Moss will probably play more,
but Brown's athleticism is starting to show
and it could be a matter of time
before he's the Bengals' lead back on running downs.
I do think what Jamie said is right.
It's more of a passing game,
and despite what you might think looking at the two backs,
I think Moss is their passing back.
Um,
so I,
I think it's a boss game.
Is chase,
chase Brown or justice Hill.
Brown.
I would play Brown because you look at the way that that game unfolded for
the bangles last week.
Does chase Brown, instead of them rotating,
does he now get all the running down work?
He won't get all the running down work.
The majority of the running down.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
Yeah. He's probably,
I mean,
you could say he's earning it.
He has,
he has been great rushing the ball this year.
So T Higgins,
how do we feel about him coming off?
I think at 12,
yeah. 12 fantasy points at Carolina had 10 targets. How are we feeling T Higgins, how do we feel about him coming off? I think it's 12. Yeah. 12 fantasy points at Carolina had 10 targets.
How are we feeling about Higgins?
Number two wide receiver.
He's the number three wide receiver for me. I'd like to see a good game.
Okay. Flowers or Higgins?
Higgins.
Flowers.
Okay. How do we feel about the Cincinnati tight ends?
If you're desperate,
I would prefer Eric all at this point over Gusecki.
I've got Gusecki ranked higher,
but I do want to add all in deeper leagues.
Cause I think that's,
that's definitely coming.
Okay.
Lamar Jackson,
start him.
Derek Henry,
start him.
I think you guys probably, this has to be on your mind, right?
The fear here for me with Zay Flowers and obviously Mark Andrews is that Derrick Henry could run all over this team, right?
They have a terrible run defense, and they're giving up, what,
4.48 yards per carry to running backs.
I guess it's not as bad as I thought,
but we've seen Ch like Chuba Hubbard,
18 carries for 104 yards and a touchdown.
I guess.
So that's my concern is that it's going to be like,
we've seen the last two weeks and 20 pass attempts,
which would be a high higher than each of the last two weeks.
And then that's not good for Zay flowers.
So Jamie,
how do you,
how do you weigh that against the possibility of a shootout
in this game? So, that's one reason why I prefer Higgins over Flowers with that factoring in,
because I don't think that this is a Bengals run game. I think this is a Bengals throw game,
and this is potentially a Ravens run game. The thing that you want for the Ravens pass catchers
is they come out
and they punch Baltimore in the mouth early and they score,
and they're up 10-0 going into the second quarter, middle of the second quarter,
up 10 points, and Baltimore is buying because what have we seen?
First two weeks they were chasing against Kansas City.
They were chasing against the Raiders, or they were back and forth against the Raiders.
But, yes, this run defense is awful.
It's absolutely abysmal.
Henry's my number one running back this week.
I'd be surprised if they're going to be in a high-volume situation,
but I think Flowers is a good number three receiver for this week
just based on the potential of it.
And then in the case of the tight ends, good luck.
But at what point are you going to just outright bench Mark Andrews?
And this could easily be the week because of what's happened this season.
So I understand it.
I've decided to help Mark Andrews get off this terrible start.
I said it yesterday on the show.
I'm not faking it with
mark andrews ranking anymore he's my tight end 22 wow um i'm just i'm like if it turns into a
pass game that's probably just good for justice hill he's he's much more involved in the passing
game than mark andrews is i mean isaiah likely is more involved not i ranked isaiah likely ahead
of mark andrews that's the funny thing is we're moving on from Isaiah Likely,
but I think people are still going to begrudgingly hold on to Andrews.
But Andrews is playing fewer snaps than Likely.
Now, if they get into a throwing game, maybe that changes.
Okay.
No, he just plays left or right tackle.
Yeah.
He's blocking well.
I think he has more pass block this season than targets.
So, okay.
So Zay Flowers is a...
He's a wide receiver three.
Wide receiver three for you.
He's almost a wide receiver two for Jamie
and right around there for Dave.
So you're a little bit lower on Flowers,
but he's not a top 20 guy.
Tyreek Hill over Flowers.
Yes.
All right. I think that's not a top 20 guy. Tyreek Hill over Flowers? Yes. Yes.
All right.
I think that's about it for this game.
So, yeah, if you happen to pick up Njoku and Ingram,
you could start them over Mark Andrews,
not over Brock Bowers like earlier, but if they play.
Yes, you should start Tucker Craft over Andrews.
I would start Otten over Andrews.
Okay.
Pitts? I'd start Colten over Andrews. Okay. Pitts?
I'd start Colby Parkinson over him.
I know it doesn't turn into fantasy points,
but he at least is seeing targets.
Yeah.
Great.
Good stuff.
All right.
No, it's bad stuff.
It's terrible.
I hate it for Mark Andrews.
Baltimore's DST is kind of low end.
You could get away from them if you want.
We'll go to Dallas at Pittsburgh,
but first we're going to go to a commercial break.
So we'll come back and talk about Dallas and Pittsburgh on Sunday night
and a surprising stat about the Cowboys offensive line.
We'll be right back.
The Dallas Cowboys have allowed the third lowest pressure rate in the NFL.
They're going to need to keep that up as they face the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starter Sid Dak Prescott.
Looks like Heath, you're higher on Dak Prescott this week. I'm going to double to keep that up as they face the Pittsburgh Steelers. Starter Sid, Dak Prescott.
Looks like Heath, you're higher on Dak Prescott this week.
I'm going to double-check the rankings here.
He is 10th for you, 14th for Jamie.
And if anybody wants to be Dave, he's 7th for Dave.
But Heath, you can be the high guy for now on Dak.
Yeah, I mean, I think he's a little bit of a FOMO guy because when he's good, he can be great.
And at times, he's been matchup proof.
And I don't think that the Cowboys just don't have,
we're talking about 45 pass attempts for Joe Burrow.
The Cowboys don't have a run game.
They're not going to be able to run the ball against Pittsburgh at all.
So I think you're probably looking at 40 pass attempts from Dak Prescott.
And I hope he gets to 20 fantasy points.
Lowest run rate in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys.
Okay, Prescott coming off a solid game against the Giants,
a huge game before that against the Ravens and the Steelers.
Eight points for Cousins, seven for Knicks,
11 for Burrow, 22 last week for the Colts quarterbacks.
11 for Herbert.
I said Burrow? I didn't say Burrow.
11 for Herbert.
Okay, Rico Dowdle or Javante Williams? Quarterbacks. 11 for Herbert. I said Burrow. Why did I say Burrow? 11 for Herbert. Okay.
Rico Dowdle or Javante Williams?
Javante.
Rico Dowdle.
Yeah, he's been so good.
Rico Dowdle or Bucks running back?
Bucks.
Both.
Both of them?
Yeah.
All right.
We're still in the stash Rico Dowdle phase. We're still in the stash Rico Dowdle phase.
We're not quite in the start Rico Dowdle phase.
I didn't know we were moving that direction.
I thought we were going to say we're still in the stash Rico Dowdle phase.
We're not quite in the drop Rico Dowdle phase.
Well, 12 touches.
Finally scored a touchdown.
And he's clearly taking over the carries in that backfield.
However, like I said, one of the reporters for the Athletics said it might be time to see what they have in Dalvin Cook.
That really surprised me.
I don't think Dowdle's doing a bad job.
I would just say he had 11 touches in week three and 11 touches in week two.
There's not a trend there.
Oh, there's a trend of Ezekiel Elliott disappearing, though.
Okay.
In terms of the share of the carries,
Dowdell has definitely moved ahead of Zeke.
I don't know if he would be near the goal line, though.
That's always a problem.
All right, start CeeDee Lamb and Tolbert.
I think you said he's in your top 40 or something,
but we're not going to start.
48.
48, okay.
Yeah, Pittsburgh, their pass defense looked a little vulnerable last week.
They didn't do so well.
They couldn't get to the quarterback.
Well, you know, who can get to Joe Flacco?
The guy's moving all over the place.
That's true.
Yeah, I think Dak's in trouble today, this week.
You think so?
Yeah.
How come?
Because the Steelers couldn't get to the quarterback last week.
They're going to get to Dak.
Well, they're missing Highsmith.
We don't really talk about that so much,
but he's a great edge rusher, and he's out for them.
Jake Ferguson's top three.
Who would you start over Jake Ferguson?
Nobody.
Nobody for Heath?
Kelsey and Kittle.
Okay.
Justin Fields, start or sit Jamie Eisenberg.
I would start him.
You're talking about a defense that is down to Marcus Lawrence and most
likely down Micah Parsons.
So,
I mean,
they,
they seemingly have allowed him to do more.
I know score was a big part of that.
What's the,
what's the problem?
I really didn't think i had justin
field to qb 16 so i gotta fix that i don't know what's going on with my rankings this morning but
adam and the notes had him at 12 and he yeah you were at 12 at one point now i see 16
okay sorry this game i think i i previewed on i i did my preview on uh tuesday so i know the
rankings change a lot.
But you're looking at it.
So, okay, the graphic we have up says that Jamie has him ninth, Dave 11th, and Heath 16th.
Put him at 13th for me.
I'm sorry.
That was my fault, not Thomas's.
All me.
So Jamie's got Fields ahead of Dak.
Heath, who are you going with? I think that's the problem for Fields is if Jamie's right about Dak,
I'm not sure Fields does anything.
Like,
the game that he
had the great game
against the Indianapolis Colts, like the Cowboys
defense is down, but I don't think
it's down that bad.
I just,
I think he probably has 15
to 20 pass attempts
if Dak is not a top 12 quarterback.
I'm expecting the fields from two weeks ago.
That would be 25 of 32, 235 yards,
one touchdown, one interception for 20.4 fantasy points.
And really like, oh, he had a rushing touchdown.
Yeah, but only six rushing yards
in that game that was against the chargers and and i haven't mentioned this about fields but
he's faced the falcons broncos chargers those are so far tough matchups they're all top 10 against
quarterbacks uh cowboys are 21st and then you know last week he placed the colts who are terrible and
he scored 34 fantasy points uh so this like on paper is his second best matchup
of the year um Najee Harris you guys I guess seem to like this week so okay I really dislike the
running back position this week yeah it's tough uh would you go with Najee or T Higgins half PPR
Najee Najee okay Najee or Tee Higgins? Half PPR. Najee. Najee.
Okay.
Najee or George Pickens?
Pickens.
Pickens.
All right.
Pickens hasn't...
In their good matchups, he's been good.
He hasn't scored yet, but he has six red zone targets.
He has three end zone targets.
The entire team has five end zone targets.
So you love the way Fields is looking for him. Dallas, I don't know. I'm not going to say they're good against receivers. They're 16th
against receivers. And then Pat Fryermuth, how are we feeling about, I keep mentioning Njoku
and Ingram, and they may not even play, but let's assume they do play. Would you have Fryermuth
ahead of Njoku and Ingram? For this week, yes, just because shake the rust off type of game
for those two guys.
It's not like they are going to be the focal
points of their offenses, whereas
Friermuth is pretty much locked into being the
second guy.
Which DST do you like better, Cowboys
or Steelers?
I want no part of the Cowboys if they don't have
Parsons and Lawrence.
Yeah, I think Justin Fields is probably going to take two or three sacks,
no matter who's rushing him.
He hasn't been sacked very much, though.
Yeah, he's doing a good job with that.
They have, as a team, three turnovers on the season.
This has been a different Justin Fields.
And who's sacking him?
They lose a starting guard for the season.
He does have an improved sack rate, but it's still an 8.4% sack rate.
It's not good.
That's high?
Yes.
All right.
So, well, what's your answer, Heath?
You like the Cowboys?
Oh, you have them back-to-back.
Yeah.
I'm starting them both.
Yeah, everyone loves the Steelers' DST this week. Dave and. Yeah. Everyone's everyone loves the Steelers DST this week.
Dave and Jamie are not so high on the Cowboys DST.
Anything else in this game?
Are we good?
Okay.
We're good.
You got it.
Buffalo is at Houston.
Stat of the game.
Khalil Shakir has a 94.7% catch rate.
He is ninth in yards per target because of that.
And he's actually scored double digit
fantasy points in every game. That's number one. That is the game number two. Let's talk about the
other side and the bills and what they have done against wide receivers. They've held Marvin
Harrison, both Dolphins wide receivers who had two of her like a half Brian Thomas Jr. and Zay
Flowers. All of them had 50 yards, fewer than 50 yards and no touchdowns.
Three of those receivers
had fewer than 25 yards
and no quarterback
has even thrown
for 180 yards yet
on the Bills.
And they could,
I don't think they will,
but they could get
Teron Johnson
and Terrell Bernard
back this week.
They're practicing.
I shouldn't say
I don't think they will.
I have no idea,
but they could get
those guys back.
Kyler Murray, Tua,
Lawrence, Lamar Jackson, none of them have even thrown for 180 yards. I don't know. I guess I have no idea. But they could get those guys back. Kyler Murray, Tua, Lawrence, Lamar Jackson,
none of them have even thrown for 180 yards.
I don't know.
I guess I have to buy the Bills' defense.
Past defense has been so good.
But obviously you're starting Nico Collins.
Stephon Diggs, though, in this game.
No, I mean, come on.
Is it more of a revenge game for him or for the Bills?
Right.
Yeah, he did score at Minnesota, right?
So that was,
no,
he had 10 for 94.
Oh,
I had 10 for 94.
I guess still a good game.
All right.
Is he an easy start this week?
He's a top 10 receiver.
I mean,
yes,
I look,
this,
this bill defense,
I do think is good.
The,
the,
the laundry list that you just gave,
there's an asterisk with almost every situation.
The dolphins, obviously what happened there.
The Ravens, they didn't have to throw.
The Cardinals for Marvin Harrison, it was his first game.
We know how that went.
And then week two, he came out and everything was fantastic because he got targets.
Yeah, but isn't it something to say about the Bills?
You know how the Bills operate.
They do not give up big plays.
Yes.
No, look.
That's actually good for Diggs.
You can make a case.
Arguably, their best pass rusher this season is not playing uh yeah right von miller's out and why is it good for
digs i talk about this like every week with the bills they give up the underneath stuff digs is
a slot guy he's in the slot almost all the time he's not going downfield a lot he's catching short
balls so his a dot is seven right that's really never below 10 in buffalo
yeah and he's not doing anything after the catch which is weird um so that's bad for that so on
paper like bad for tank dell good for stefan diggs would you say that i would not start dell this
week i think you're looking at the the two guys first of all nico i don't know where you have
nico collins number one receiver for me. Um,
it's,
it's, he's just been amazing.
And digs has been fantastic.
So like,
it's pretty clear like where they're going.
Like we,
we were worried.
Okay.
There's going to be three guys where the target's going to be spread out,
throwing Dalton Schultz,
throwing Joe Mixon.
Like they're going to be,
it's Nico and digs.
Like that's where CJ Stroud is looking right now.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you must like CJ Stroud then.
Cause he really hasn't been great this year.
Not yet.
He's not been great,
but quarterback position has not been that great either.
So,
uh,
I'm not getting cute and starting,
you know,
Sam Donald over him.
Uh,
but you're getting,
are you starting Brock?
I'm expecting a shootout.
So I'm going to start CJ Stroud.
Brock Purdy or Stroud. Uh, I think start CJ Stroud. Brock Purdy or Stroud?
I think I have Stroud ahead of Purdy.
Stroud.
All right.
Stroud's top five, I think, for everybody.
All right.
So, Nico, Diggs, you second this thought, Heath, that Diggs is a must start?
I've got him top 15, not quite top 10.
But, yeah, I mean, there's a couple of guys that when I
look at my rankings, I would like to move
ahead of him, like Brian Thomas Jr.,
but I just have a hard time justifying
it. I can't put Tyreek
ahead of him.
Maybe Marvin Harrison, but I don't really like
his matchup against San Francisco.
I don't like Garrett Wilson that much. Chris
Olave's got a bad matchup.
Have they been San Francisco? I wouldn't even think twice I would don't like Garrett Wilson that much. Chris, all of it's got a bad matchup. Uh,
is San Francisco,
have they been San Francisco?
Cause I,
I wouldn't even think twice. I would start Marvin Harrison over Stefan digs,
I guess.
I'm crazy.
Well,
not necessarily crazy.
That's there for close.
Okay.
Stefan.
I think that they haven't really faced good wide receivers.
Uh,
Justin Jefferson,
big game,
Garrett Wilson.
No,
this is San Francisco. I'm talking about. Um, okay. Justin Jefferson, big game. Garrett Wilson, no. This is San Francisco I'm talking about.
Okay, so whatever.
Start digs.
What about the Texans running backs, Jamie?
How do you see that scenario right now?
The fact that it's another Wednesday and no Mixon and no Pierce is a little troubling.
Clearly for Mixon, we don't care about Pierce as a fantasy option.
We care about him as a person. The sneaky play really is probably Dario Gumbawale because they are terrible
against pass-catching running backs, like absolutely awful.
And so if you're really, really, really, really, really desperate,
he's available everywhere.
And if Mixon is out again, maybe even Mixon plays,
but he may be a great DFS option.
Right?
That's a day game.
Great DFS option.
They have the Sunday night game in DFS now
in FanDuel.
On FanDuel, I think.
Not on DraftKings.
Yeah.
Okay.
But if Mixon plays,
he's a no-brainer.
You start him, right?
Start him.
He is a starter.
What about Akers?
I don't really want to start Akers. I do him. He is a starter. What about Akers? I'm not really,
I don't really want to start Akers.
I do not either.
I don't want to start Akers either,
but he's in the flex conversation.
But I really do think
Ogunbowale could be sneakily good.
By the way,
we'll talk about this tomorrow,
but with Trey Sermon,
I can't,
I'm getting a little bit
of Cam Akers vibes with Trey Sermon.
Oh, for sure.
You got to be a little wary of it.
Yeah, I mean, look, it's, I don't, and I, to be honest with you, like, I don't even know which quarterback's better for him.
I would think it's Flacco because he'll probably throw it to him a couple times.
I would think Flacco too.
Yeah, because, you know, Richardson has really been deferring
to Jonathan Taylor near the goal line.
I don't know that he would defer to Jason.
He did once already, though.
Yeah, he already gave him one handoff for Deshaun.
Very unselfish guy.
Okay, so Josh Allen's a must-start.
James Cook is a must-start.
Khalil Shakir is a number three wide receiver
ahead of Tank Dell.
For me, yes.
Okay.
If Khalil Shakir does not play,
would that change anything for Josh Allen or Keon Coleman or Dalton Kincaid?
I don't think I would be willing to trust.
Kincaid's a must-start tight end at this point, just given the position.
I wouldn't trust the other Bills receivers, no.
They need to go trade for Devontae Adams.
And, yeah, and that's it.
Hold on one second.
How many pass attempts for Josh Allen?
So 23, 19, 30, and 29.
It would be nice if he would have a 35-pass attempt game
because Glushkir has been so good,
and they have just not thrown the ball much.'d love to see what like that the other thing is like for josh allen how many rush attempts for josh allen i don't even know five six two nine
so it's not like the low pass volume has been an increase in rushing. They're just not running a lot of plays?
Or James Cook?
No, because James Cook has 11 carries or fewer in three of four games.
Where do they rank in plays?
Really low.
Yeah.
All right, let's get a shootout here.
Okay, Cleveland at Washington.
I'll take a shootout in this game, too.
Let's update our stat of the game.
This time it's correct. The Command commanders have now allowed 75 yards or a touchdown
to 36 wide receivers in their last 21 games.
So that's going back to week one of 2023.
It only was one wide receiver last week
in a very disappointing game for Michael Wilson,
but Marvin Harrison did score.
That's our updated stat of the game.
Here's our other two stats.
I got a lot of stats of the game for this one.
Terry McLaurin has scored 18 or more PPR fantasy points
in consecutive games for the second time in his career
and the first time since 2020.
And stat of the game number three,
the Commanders have allowed 16 and a half
or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every game.
Rashad White, Devin Singletary, Zach Moss, and James Conner.
So that's why I said earlier, great matchup for Jerome Ford,
assuming Nick Chubb does not play in this game.
But when you look at Cleveland and Washington,
are we expecting a really good fantasy game here, Heath?
Like, you know, the running backs, Cooper, the quarterbacks?
Well, yeah.
I think it's going to be a pretty good fantasy game,
assuming Brian Robinson's healthy. I think you have two top 15 running backs. You've got Jaden Daniels as a superstar. You can feel excitement or at least interest in both Amari Cooper and Jerry Judy. If David Njoku comes back, probably not, but maybe. Terry McLaurin's a high upside number three. And I actually think, and you'll love this, Adam,
because I know he's your guy.
This could be a Deshaun Watson week.
Not my guy.
You are the highest on him.
You have him right around the 13th, I think, unless you moved him.
Yeah, that's right about right.
Jamie, I think you have him 17th.
Dave is not interested in Deshaun Watson.
He has him 23rd.
He's got the third most pass attempts in the NFL.
And he is 24th in yards and 31st.
The only two quarterbacks that Sean Watson is ahead of in yards per attempt are Bryce Young and Bo Nix.
37 pass attempts, five rush attempts per game.
And it is a really bad Washington defense that doesn't really get pressure on anybody.
10 touchdowns, no interceptions allowed or no interceptions for Washington so far.
And, you know, Kyler only scored
11 points last week. He had a 104.7
passer rating.
So this is great. This is like
immovable objects
against
very stoppable force in the
commander's defense.
Yes, exactly that.
Alright, so
I don't know. Who would you start? Who would you start him over? You guys would start defenders defense. Yes, it's exactly that. All right. So, um,
I don't know who,
who would you start?
Who would you start him over?
You'd start,
you guys would start Watson over Derek Carr.
Yep.
How about Mahomes or Watson?
Watson.
Mahomes still reluctantly.
How about Jerome Ford or Brian Robinson?
If they're both hell,
if they're both the starters? Robinson.
I mean, he's been better.
I think I have them back-to-back.
I think it's a better matchup for Ford.
Imagine if you were in your draft and you're like, man, I'm so excited I drafted B. Robinson.
Oh, crap, I drafted the wrong.
Oh, five weeks later.
Wow, this worked out well.
Yeah. He's got 16 or more Wow, this worked out well. Yeah.
He's got 16 or more carries
in three straight games.
Brian Robinson,
he is the number 14
running back in PPR,
number 11 in non-PPR.
That's overall, not per game.
So I think a lot of people
are going to be starting him.
He's top 15 in the rankings.
For Jamie, he's top 10.
Terry McLaurin, Heath,
I think you said
number three receiver.
How come?
Because I do think there's still a risk that there's some passing games in the
teens for Jaden Daniels and his ADOT is intended area.
It's per pass attempt is still amongst the lowest in the league.
You're I think Terry,
it's very much that needs to catch a 30 or 40 yard touchdown pass to be a
starting fantasy wide receiver on a weekly basis.
He did.
He didn't do it two weeks.
He was able to do it two weeks.
Okay.
Jamie, McLaurin and Cooper and Judy, how do you see these guys?
Cooper, McLaurin, Judy is how I have it ranked.
I have Cooper and McLaurin basically back-to-back.
Cooper is clearly due for a big game.
This should happen this week. I would be curious if they lose and you're getting now a prominent receiver
getting shopped around the league.
Does Cooper come next at 30 years old to the Browns?
It's time to move on.
Judy has just been kind of a very safe PPR wide receiver.
You know, I know he's not as available as Wanda Robinson,
but it's almost like a,
they're a mirror image of each other.
Not as many targets for,
for Judy,
but basically same level of production.
Robinson's better game last week,
better than anything Judy's done,
but you get the point like 11 to 12 PPR points,
14 as,
as kind of a high.
So he's a good number three receiver,
especially in this type of matchup.
The one thing will be as you know,
where does Najoku sort of hurt any of these guys?
I don't think he hurt Cooper because Cooper's not been that successful aside from the one game against the Giants.
But in any event, I think Judy's number three receiver, Cooper's number two receiver, and Najoku is a starting tight end by default.
I think the guy, and I'll probably lower him if the joke, who's active, I think the guy that joke will hurt will be Jerome Ford.
Cause he's had a couple of weeks where he saved himself with those
targets just on dump offs.
And they've,
they've thrown a lot of those in a joke over the last couple of years,
which you guys,
not necessarily Watson.
Would you guys start a Mari Cooper or Chuba Hubbard?
Chuba Chuba Devbard? Chuba.
Devon Achan or Amari Cooper?
Imagine saying that after week one.
Easy for me.
Cooper.
Achan.
Achan for me.
All right.
Listen, if Cooper can't get it done this week,
we got a problem
because the targets have been there every single week.
Should be there this week.
All right.
By the way, Jerry Judy or Wanda Robinson, who do you like better?
Wanda.
Wanda.
Okay.
Jerry Judy or DeAndre Swift?
I'm going to buy Swift after what he did last week,
especially with his matchup.
I'm going to buy Swift for about two more weeks,
and then I'm going to sell them.
Yes, Swift has the Panthers.
Okay, and
McLaurin, sounds like, Jamie, you're a little
higher on McLaurin. Yeah, much higher on McLaurin.
Wow. So like 13 or
14, well, I don't know, 13 or 14 spots
higher. Is that still true?
I've got him like 29 or 30.
Okay, Jamie's got him 17th.
Alright, see a big difference there. And I've got him like 29 or 30. Okay. Jamie's got him 17th. All right.
See a big difference there.
And Zach Ertz or Mark Andrews?
I mean, if you want the five or six points, you play Ertz.
If you hope that this is the week for Andrews, you play.
I don't know what else to say.
Ertz.
I haven't even asked about Jaden Daniels here.
Jaden Daniels or Joe Burrow?
Daniels.
Daniels is QB3 for me.
All right.
Who's ahead of him?
Jackson and Allen?
Jackson and Allen.
Same.
You're not concerned about the matchup?
No.
No.
Okay.
All right.
Cleveland's DST.
I think Heath has them ninth.
Jamie's 16th.
You can get away from them.
I'd say Miles Garrett did look pretty good.
I watched his tape and I was a little concerned
about him playing with the foot injuries,
but he looked pretty damn good and he
had a good amount of pressures and
I think a sack or two last week.
The Saints are at the
Chiefs. Is this
a game, compared to the last
game where we're excited about these guys, is this a game where compared to the last game where we're excited about these guys,
is this a game where you're nervous about a lot of players?
You have to be.
I mean, look, Mahomes has one 20-point game in his last nine going back to last year in the regular season.
Yeah, can I give you this, Jamie?
It's been now 17 games, including the playoffs.
So it's a full season, including the playoffs last year.
The last 17 games, he's been over 21 points twice
and six points for passing touchdown leagues.
It's incredible.
I mean, and look, they care about one thing and one thing only,
which is wins.
So it's not like they're going to change.
Like we thought last week, oh, they're going to change. Now, last week oh they're going to change now granted rice going out i'm sure it
was a big part of that but after pacheco's injury uh i guess even two weeks ago when they played the
falcon so it's hard to say mahomes is a must start quarterback and the fact that you see if you're
watching on youtube that his start percentage is at 88 percent um i i think still speaks to and i'm
in in two of those leagues where i just don't have
any better options right like i'm still starting my home i dropped his ass two days ago for who
tank dell who's your second quarterback baker mayfield that's interesting
the tank that'll be on the waiver wire is pretend team league nope 12 team league okay yeah um
mahomes is not a must-start quarterback who is a must-start in this game that's a better question
kelsey easily uh kamara easily alave i think is still a must-start receiver i mean he's just got
too much potential i think that's it yeah i would just would just stop at Kelsey and Kamara.
And here's the thing about Kamara.
I mean, obviously he is a must start,
but the Chiefs have been so good against the run.
Now, Kamara has always got the pass-catching potential,
but the Chiefs, best against running backs so far,
fewest fantasy points allowed,
3.1 yards per carry to running backs.
Now going back to the playoffs last year, they've held six straight lead running backs to 3.6 yards per carry or worse.
That's Derek Henry, Zach Moss, B. John Robinson, J.K. Dobbins this year,
and Christian McCaffrey and James Cook last year.
So obviously you're starting Kamara, but the Chiefs are a horrible matchup.
And then Olave, yeah, I mean, I think everyone's pretty much going to start him.
He's got two straight games with 86 or 87 yards.
Shahid is pretty interesting, though.
Shahid's been 15.7 or more fantasy points in three or four games
and one game with zero fantasy points.
No wide receiver has more than 67 yards against the Chiefs yet.
That includes Zay Flowers with 10 targets, Jamar Chase,
Drake London.
He's got the most yards at 67.
Ladd McConkie also had 67.
I've got them back to back.
Like Shahid actually,
it comes out higher in the projections,
but I just moved Shahid behind Olave in the rankings.
But I think like it almost makes more sense to me that Shahid's the type of guy who might have a good day against the Chiefs
because he just hits that one play over the top
and scores 12 points on one play.
But they're both number two wide receivers.
And the other thing I wanted to say just on the Chiefs side of it is,
and it's tough because he's not on IR
and you don't think he's going to play again yet,
but you can't drop Rushie Rice yet.
Patrick Mahomes said, I think it was yesterday or the day before,
he hopes to get Rice back soon.
They don't know anything
for sure yet, but they've not confirmed
it's an ACL, and they've not confirmed that he's
out for the year. So, don't
drop him.
What do you guys think about Kareem Hunt this week?
In most weeks, he'd be a flex.
I think, you know, based on how the rankings are gonna
shake out you see again watching on youtube our consensus ranking is 22 i know he's right around
there for me i don't know based on what you said yesterday heath i assume around the same range
i'm just a little bit higher on him but yeah he's i'm he's an hour or two for me this week so like
you it's it's a it's a hope really because i think if clyde plays it's a hope, really, because I think if Clyde plays,
it's going to be a little bit tougher to say must start running back.
Yep.
But if Clyde is out, based on what happened last week,
like Carson Steele I don't think is a factor because of the fumble
and the fact that Hunt looked as good as he did.
And Samaj P. Ryan is probably just going to continue to play in his role
of obvious passing downs and, you know, filling in here and there.
The question would be is,
do they go back to steal as the goal line guy?
Because he was in that role,
or at least presumably in that role when Pacheco was healthy,
even though we didn't really see it fully,
but that was the thought.
So I just think you,
if you picked up Kareem hunt,
you're just saying,
okay,
he's going to start for me in some capacity,
whether it's a number two running back or flex,
unless your team is just really low.
I think I have him 17th right now, but I'm
not expecting Clyde to play yet.
If Clyde was in, then I might
he might drop to 21 or 22.
Okay. If we have any
Kareem Hunt questions, I'll
read them. If someone's
asking Worthy or Shahid?
Shahid. Shahid. Worthy's
like wide receiver 30 for you guys.
Heath was saying he'd like to avoid him.
Yeah, I think he's closer to 35 for me.
Okay.
The one thing, I just go back to what you said, Heath.
The target share makes total sense for what it was the first four weeks of the season.
Is this the week that they have to use him?
And I don't know.
I don't know if it's, hey, we're going to use Juju more.
We're going to use Watson more.
You heard Mahomes say those two names and Noah Gray. So it's no slam dunk that Worthy all of a sudden gets elevated to this extreme level because Rice is not there. It's a hope. And clearly all the Worthy fantasy managers are just going to sit here and say, yes, I'm going to throw him in my lineup with the expectation that he's going to get maybe seven or eight targets.
And my God, he could look fantastic with seven or eight targets.
But it's just not something that we can sit here and say it's a guarantee.
Man, I might start Noah Gray over Mark Andrews.
Yeah.
Worthy Wicks or Kirk?
We have a question.
Worthy Wicks or Kirk?
Kirk.
Kirk.
Hunt or Wicks?
I would go with Hunt in any format.
Interesting.
Okay.
All right.
Let's go to our next game, Miami, New England.
First, though, we're going to take one last commercial break.
We'll be right back on FFT.
Dolphins are at the Patriots' stat of the game.
The Dolphins have allowed eight touchdowns to running backs in four games,
seven of those rushing touchdowns.
Ramondre Stevenson,
Kareem Hunt, Devon Achan, how would you rank those three?
Achan,
Stevenson, Hunt, right now.
Achan, Hunt, Stevenson.
If Clyde's back, then it's probably Achan,
Stevenson, Hunt.
Do all three of those guys have really, really low floors this week?
Yeah.
I don't know if Hunt does.
No.
I think Hunt has the highest floor unless Clyde's back and you've got some risk of...
Okay.
And then the Dolphins receivers. where do you have them heath tyreek's a low end number two
waddles a flex um and it really hasn't been much different they've combined for 129 yards the last
two games just absolutely awful but you're right like we have that image in our head of tyreek hill running
down the field with no one within five yards of them you just hope that snoop huntley accidentally
throws it to him uh i'm gonna read some questions here achan jsn or tank dell hm agent um
all right i'll see if any more achanchan. A-chan is an interesting guy. I mean, like, obviously, he was 23 or more fantasy points, I think,
in each of his first two games,
and 8.8 or fewer in each of his last two games.
I don't even know if the matchup matters that much.
I mean, the Patriots have been pretty good against the run.
They were not good last week, though.
Actually, they really haven't been that good, you know.
Maybe they were against Charbonnet, but whatever.
But yeah, it's just a horrible offense right now,
and it's a problem.
So would you start Chris Olave or Devon Achan?
Achan.
Achan.
All right, you guys still like Achan then.
I guess it's taking chances.
Yes.
Not going to go to like Devin
Singletary over him.
Is he okay? Oh yeah, he missed practice
too. I think I mentioned that. I hope I mentioned that.
Devin Singletary missed practice. I don't know. That was a
surprising one to me.
Dolphins wide receivers talked about. Dolphin tight end, no.
Jacoby Brissett, no.
Andre Stevenson is still worth starting, but
there's a lot of risk because he's fumbling.
Antonio Gibson's 55%
rostered and
no Patriots wide receivers
and no Patriots pass catchers in general.
Stop me if I'm wrong.
Which DST do you prefer?
Dolphins slightly over Patriots.
Patriots for me.
A-Chan or Sermon if Taylor is out?
A-Chan. A-Chan or Sermon if Taylor is out? A-Chan.
A-Chan.
A-Chan, Bucky Irving, or Jerome Ford?
A-Chan's still over fourth.
Just barely.
Just barely.
Very, very close.
All right.
If anybody has any Tyree Kill or Jalen Waddle questions,
you can fire those away in the chat as well.
But we're going to go to our last game, Las Vegas at Denver.
Okay, stat of the game number
one, the Raiders have allowed
15.5 or more
fantasy points to a running back in all
four games. Dobbins,
Henry, Chubbard, and Jerome
Ford. So
can we get
12.5 PPR fantasy points
from Javante this week?
What do you guys think?
We should.
But I don't want to realize he's still just a borderline RB2 for me
because I don't want to trust that Sean Payton doesn't have some other
running back that he thinks is better.
Javante Ahmed.
Is that who it is this week?
That's who they just signed.
You know,
I left a few notes out because I don't think I mentioned the singletary
thing.
And another thing I didn't mention was the Zamir white got hurt in
practice yesterday.
And it was in practice or he missed practice.
I think I thought it was,
I thought it was in practice.
Okay.
I'll check,
but he's,
he missed practice.
Yeah.
Madison is perhaps taking over.
He's 75% rostered.
So would you start Madison?
We've talked about Kareem hunt,
Devon,
a channel,
Mondray,
Stevenson,
Javante Williams is Madison in that group behind that group.
What do you think?
If Samir white is out,
then Madison would vault ahead of Javante.
Who else did you say?
Kareem hunt,
remand,
Jay Stevenson,
Devon,
a Chan.
Uh, no, not ahead of Achan.
He probably would be right around where I have Hunt, so
right around 20th.
Yeah, my only fear
would be
that if Zemir White was out,
they'd give Madison all the Zemir White
touches and Amir Abdullah would play all the
passing downs.
We wouldn't get the Madison game that we want.
But he would be a borderline RB, too, yeah.
The note here says on our site,
White appears to have sustained the groin injury during practice.
Okay.
That's never good.
So the Broncos' defense is just great.
I mean, it has been absolutely outstanding.
No running back has had a big game against them. Oh, Ken Walker in week one. He was really good,
but they just held Brees Hall to 10 carries for four yards. Like Ken Walker, man. Great against the Broncos. That's obviously impressive. Great against the Lions. Super impressive. Good
for him. Okay. So the running backs are interesting in this game. How about
the wide receivers? Who's the best wide receiver in this
game in Las Vegas at Denver?
In the game or in the building?
In the game.
Is he in the building?
He should be on the side. Oh, it's a road game?
I don't know.
Squirtle and Sutton's the answer yeah how come you guys are so low on jacoby myers he did have
10 targets two straight games with nine or ten targets he's facing the eliminator he's not though
like they're not even no he had a 22 slot slot rate last week i think they're just playing him
outside with davante not there i did see that but I don't think he's going to be shadowed by...
I could be wrong.
I don't think he's going to be shadowed by Sertan.
He'll see him, but he won't be shadowed by him.
You think he will be?
Why would the Broncos change their defensive scheme?
They do that.
They do not have Sertan shadow.
I mean, I think this year it just so happens
that they have faced a true number one receiver every week.
But going back to last year,
he did not shadow a receiver every
week.
I don't think Myers has
earned the respect, despite 10 targets last
week, of saying must-start
receiver against this defense. No, I'm not saying must-start.
I was a little surprised to see him in the 40s
basically. I think he's 38th for Heath and PPR.
All right.
Xavier Worthy over Kobe Myers?
Yes.
Probably should.
And Tucker's even lower than Myers.
But both should be added across the board.
I saw Myers at least in one 10-team league last night,
still on the way over there.
And I believe his roster percentage was like 76 or something.
77 right now.
Tucker, 35%.
Stark, Brock, Bowers.
Sorry.
Sippo, Knicks.
Javante, you guys are optimistic about.
So Cortland Sutton, the Raiders.
Yeah, you can beat the Raiders.
And Sutton's got two straight games with around 14 points.
Nine or more targets in three or four games.
Not the most accurate targets.
But I'll tell you guys, this might be controversial.
I'm starting Cortland Sutton over both Devante Adams and Jamison Williams
this week.
It's pretty smart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably over St.
Brown too.
Right.
I,
Ooh.
Yeah.
I think I'd start him over St.
Brown.
I don't think St.
Brown is probably going to,
you know,
increase what he did last week.
So he may get to like 90 yards passing and 80 of those will probably go to
Sutton.
I think based on last week, so he may get to like 90 yards passing. And 80 of those will probably go to Sutton. I think, based on last
week, 90 of them would go to Sutton.
Sutton had 60 yards
last week. Bo Nix had 60 passing
yards last week. Pretty unbelievable.
And
alright, that's pretty much
it for this game. Any questions?
Let me see if we have... Tucker,
Trey Tucker or Darnell Mooney is a question we
have here.
Yes.
Madison. I know it doesn't
Tucker could be Madison
or Sutton
we like better
if Samir White is out Madison
if Samir White is in Sutton. Yep.
Okay. Looking for more
questions
like this is Cooper or Shakir got to go Cooper Cooper. If If Samir White is in, Sutton. Yep. Okay. Looking for more questions.
Like, this is Cooper or Shakir.
Gotta go Cooper.
Cooper.
Easy.
Olave or Chubbard?
Chuba.
Pretty tall or Najee?
Not in PPR.
Tall.
Yeah.
Are we trying to do this show until the time we normally start?
Is that the reason?
We're done.
All right, thanks for watching, everybody.
We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.