Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Dolphins Offense, Bo Nix, Drake London and More! (11/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 14, 2024Who do we love this week (2:30)? Bo Nix is set up for a big game, but are we avoiding the Falcons wide receivers in that same game? We are definitely avoiding (5:45) Najee Harris if we can. We also ha...ve your news and notes (8:40) with big news at the quarterback position ... One Question for Each Game (15:45)! Does Aaron Rodgers bounce back this week? How much do we like Courtland Sutton? Is J.K. Dobbins worth starting? Do we like Tony Pollard this week? And who is our workhorse running back of the week (23:00)? ... Start or Sit for Colts-Jets (24:00), Falcons-Broncos (32:50), Chiefs-Bills (40:55), Bengals-Chargers (53:40), Vikings-Titans (1:03:40), Ravens-Steelers (1:09:15) and Raiders-Dolphins (1:14:35) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What does that mean for the Colts passing game? Are you certainly going to be sitting
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discuss it all on Fantasy Football Today. Adam Azer, Jamie Isenberg, and Heath Cummings.
Week 11, it's crunch time, guys.
I need your best analysis this week, okay?
Yeah, I need first to know that the hat
that Jamie is wearing, I need, I don't,
it's gonna baffle me for the entire show.
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In the meantime, we'll give you some players we love
and players to avoid.
Jamie, who do we love this week?
Start of the week is Bo Nix.
Just excited about the opportunity for him
taking on Atlanta.
We know it's been a very good stretch of games
for opposing quarterbacks against the Falcons.
And he's done a nice job, obviously,
in four of his last six games over 20 fantasy points.
I was impressed with what he did against the Chiefs,
going in arrowhead and scoring 20 fantasy points there against a really good
defense. And I think he's just going to continue to use his legs as well.
At least that's the hope. Four of his last six games,
he's either got 60 yards rushing or a rushing touchdown.
And so I think that will come into play also against Atlanta. So a good matchup,
playing well. I think it's a week, you know,
where we can certainly use some help with that position.
And I like the setup for him. He's the top seven quarterback for me this week.
Falcons giving up the seventh most fantasy points to
quarterbacks. It's good stuff. They've allowed 14 touchdown
passes in their last six games. How about you, Heath? Who do you
love?
You know, we were talking before the show and you said I should
say Aaron Rodgers because I am higher on him than everybody
else. And then I said, No, I'm gonna say Jacobi Myers, I'm a
little bit more higher on him than everyone else. But then I
decided I'm going to say Drakei Myers. Cause I'm a little bit more higher on him than everyone else. But then I decided I'm going to say Drake Lennon.
Oh, okay.
Because it does seem like a lot of people are getting away from
them because of Patrick Sertan.
And I understand that I am not, he's a number two wide receiver for me.
And we were just like, I was just kind of going through the game logs and
realizing there've been a lot of wide receivers who have been starting wide
receivers against the Broncos over the last six weeks.
I mean, remember the Zay Flowers scored like 200 fantasy points against them.
The Panthers, both Xavier Leigh Gett and Jalen Coker topped 13 fantasy points.
Jacoby Myers had 13 fantasy points.
Cedric Wilson had 13 fantasy points.
I'm not entirely sold with as good as Darnell Mooney has been this year.
The Broncos are just going to completely forget about him and have Pat Sertan follow Drake
London around. So I am still starting both of those guys this week as number two wide
receivers, not as the top five guy that London's basically been.
I believe the Panthers game, if I'm not mistaken, was the one Surtan missed with the concussion.
Could be.
I think you're right.
It's the issue is like not all these guys,
like Zay Flowers didn't get shadowed by Patrick Surtan.
Right, I mean, he didn't appear.
And I'm not sure that Drake Lennon will.
Right, that's your point.
He does that.
He's just gonna stay to a side and take away
one of their guys.
Because of Mooney.
All right, all right.
So where do you rank?
I mean, like, I'm a, they're both like 16 or 17.
I do have London one spot ahead of Mooney.
But I think like we shouldn't overshadow
how good Darnell Mooney has been this year
in total fantasy points.
He's wide receiver eight on the year.
He's been extremely productive.
So like you just decide you're going to take, take London away.
Arnold Mooney might have six for 102 touchdowns.
Yeah.
One thing I like about London and same thing with McClellan, who maybe, you
know, I think he has a tough matchup tonight.
Uh, they have, they get so many end zone targets.
Yeah.
It's just, it's an amazing role that they have,
especially London just seems like cousins throws to him
in the end zone all the time.
Most of his touchdowns are kind of short yardage.
Okay. So Jamie loves Bo Nicks.
He's sticking up for Drake London and Jamie,
who's a player to avoid this week?
Drake London.
I also have him ranked as a low end number two receiver.
I haven't completely downgraded him.
Like I have some of these guys with with certain I'll go with with Evan Ingram.
He's coming off a game with with 10 PPR points.
So not awful in the first game with Mack Jones had five catches.
The thing that concerns me though is
Detroit's defense against tight ends has been absolutely insane
They just do not give up production to the position and I think what we'll see
You know from from this defense is
This may be a absolute blowout, you know with going on the road
Going into a body for Jacksonville next week. Mack Jones starting again.
This could be the last game for Doug Peterson.
I just would try to avoid, and this goes for Brian Thomas, if you can avoid Jaguars, avoid
Jaguars.
Okay.
We've got a lot of Milwaukee Brewers guesses.
Yes, that is correct.
And somebody said it correctly.
Exactly.
It's the City Connect Milwaukee Brewers. So my 12- It's the city connect, um, uh, Milwaukee Brewers at, so my, my, uh, 12 year old,
his little league team is the Milwaukee Brewer.
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I did look up the area code.
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Heath, do not give your player to avoid, did you?
Najee Harris.
Absolutely awful matchup on the ground.
The Ravens by far the best run defense in the NFL.
Najee has one game with more than two targets
in his last five.
So you can't really count on him catching passes.
I think it's gonna be a great week for Russ,
a great week for Pickens.
Maybe even like Jaylen Warren might do a little something
in the passing game.
I don't wanna start nausea at all.
Okay.
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News and notes.
All right, Anthony Richardson's gonna start for the Colts
and it looks like it should be his job rest of season.
Take it with a grain of salt,
but that's kind of what they're hoping for here.
You're at the Jets,
it's the first game we're gonna preview,
so we'll get to that shortly.
Gardner Minchu is gonna start for the Raiders.
It was gonna be Desmond Ritter and they were like,
nope, it's gonna be Gardner, right?
You're looking at me like it's not.
Yeah, that must have, I actually missed that news.
It's great news.
Let me double check.
It's great.
I'm pretty sure.
No, I'm not saying, I think it probably is true.
Yeah, okay.
So they went to Ritter and then they were like,
fool you, going back to Gardner-Minshew.
So he's starting week 11 at Miami.
Trevor Lawrence is out this week,
but actually Doug Peterson optimistic
that Lawrence could be back after the bye.
So that would be week 13.
They're at Detroit this week.
Sam Darnold was limited with a hand injury
and they're at Tennessee.
I think he hurt his hand.
He did hurt his hand on Sunday.
Aaron Rogers said he wants to play next season.
It was not exactly 100% all in, but said he Rodgers said he wants to play next season. It was not exactly 100% all in,
but said he kind of indicated he wants to play next season.
When was the last time he was?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Brian Robinson Jr. is gonna play tonight, Heath.
Your thoughts on the commander's backfield now
against the Eagles.
Well, we say that's a lot,
but I liked it a lot more when it was just the backup
than I do when it's both the top two backs.
Uh, I think I have Brian Robinson ranked as RB 25.
Um, I would start him over Naji Harris.
I would start him over Austin Eckler.
Um, but I, I don't really want to start them.
I don't think it's a particularly good matchup.
He's going to be sharing with Austin Eckler and for that matter,
sharing rush attempts with Jaden Daniels.
Um, great flex bad RB two.
Would you start Josh Downs or against the jets or, uh, Brian Robinson Jr.
So I have downs in full PPR projected for 11.7, which is one point more than Robinson.
So Robinson and anything but full PPR,
downs and full PPR.
Naji Harris actually missed practice.
So, you know, he got hurt.
It's not a shock that he missed Wednesday's practice.
We'll keep an eye on.
He got hurt last week, he came back.
And I should say like,
I was just kind of poo pooing Brian Robinson.
I would definitely start him tonight over Naji.
Okay.
Aaron Jones was limited. That's a good sign for his availability this week.
Isaiah Pacheco unlikely to play this week.
I think it was kind of interesting that Andy Reid didn't just rule him out.
Not that he's going to play, but maybe he's closer to a return.
Then we thought, or, or maybe it's nothing, but he's unlikely to play
this week at Buffalo, that's Pacheco.
Uh, Tank Bigsby mispractice wide receiver news. Devante Smith is going to play tonight. at Buffalo. That's Pacheco. Tank Bigsby mispractice. Wide receiver news,
Devontae Smith is going to play tonight.
Amari Cooper was limited.
We know Keon Coleman's out this week.
Juju Smith-Schuster could be back this week
so that Kansas City Buffalo game
could have Cooper and Juju in it.
Devontae Smith mispractice,
Devontae Adams, pardon me, with an illness.
Michael Pittman practiced in full.
T Higgins was limited.
Come on, welcome back. Hopefully you come. T Higgins was limited. Come on, welcome back.
Hopefully you come back T Higgins.
We want you back for this game at the Chargers.
The Broncos designated Josh Reynolds to return from IR.
Does not mean he'll be back this week,
but he can be back anytime in the next three weeks.
DK Metcalf practiced in full.
Saints wide receiver Cedric Wilson Jr.
was limited in practice.
Tight end Dallas Goddard's gonna play.
So good injury news in the Washington Philadelphia game
with Brian Robinson Jr., Devontae Smith, and Dallas Goddard.
Dalton Kincaid mispracticed, Sam Laporta,
I think he, was he limited in practice?
Did not practice.
He did not practice, okay.
Sam Laporta did not practice.
George Kittle did not practice, but right now
they seem optimistic about Kittle playing.
Isaiah, likely, he was limited in practice,
so he could be back this week,
and Hunter Henry was limited in practice.
Washington, one bad thing for Washington
is they were pretty thin,
they were pretty beat up at offensive tackles.
We look at offensive lines,
so we'll see who's active tonight.
Detroit could be getting left tackle
Taylor Decker back this week.
Jets left tackle Tyron Smith.
But in the Colts Jets game,
both left tackles are going to be
questionable jets and the Colts.
Both of their guys could be questionable.
Seattle,
a Seattle offensive tackle.
Abe Lucas has been activated from the
pop list so he might play this week.
And good news for the Saints Center.
Eric McCoy is trending toward playing this week.
A big news on defense.
Kyle Hamilton mispracticed
Baltimore superstar safety.
So another reason why Russell Wilson
and the gang could do well.
And Ligeria Snead mispracticed.
So for those of you who listened to yesterday's show,
Snead not practicing today,
you have my permission to start Justin Jefferson
against the Titans.
Colts defensive tackle DeForest Buckner mispracticed.
That would be a big deal.
They are a much better pass rush with Buckner
than without him.
I mean, they're terrible rushing the passer without Buckner
and they're actually pretty solid with him.
If it's a coincidence, I don't know,
but he's obviously a very good player for the Colts.
And that's pretty much, oh, and yeah,
and edge rusher Khalil Mack mispracticed for the Chargers.
I think he barely played last week.
That's pretty significant.
It's been one of the best defenses in football,
going up against one of the best offenses.
We'll see if Khalil Mack's able to play.
As the Milwaukee representative today,
you continue to leave off the defensive injuries
for the Packers.
They're fully healthy coming off their bi-week
with Jair Alexander and Eric Williams back,
Evan Williams back.
The safety.
I am sure there are other defensive injuries
that I've missed.
So if I do, please let me know, but thank you.
I can only speak for the Wisconsin contingent.
So paying attention to the Packers.
Thank you.
Representing your adopted hometown.
All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We're gonna come back with one question for each game
and then we'll get into it after this
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All right, folks, here we go. One question for each game. We have seven games on the slate today.
First one is the Colts at the Jets. Is this a bounce back game for the Jets offense?
Yes, it certainly should be. I mean, you know, you've seen some up and down performances against Colts.
Like Josh Allen did not have a great game against them, you know?
So it's, it's, it feels like this is the type of defense that Aaron Rogers typically has
done well against.
So I think he's a low end starter.
Um, like I would start.
Bo nicks ahead of him, Russell Wilson ahead of him.
I still like Stafford slightly better than him, but that's a close one.
I do think this is a breeze hall game.
You know, hopefully he gets going in this, in this matchup, but how can you
feel confident in Aaron Rogers right now?
That's the question, you know, So do you want to start him? Probably
not. Would it surprise you if he's got that 21, 22 point game? That's, I think, where he's going to
live on a good day. Yeah, I think like two of his, the last two games before last week, the reason
we were, most of us pretty excited about him last week is because he had five touchdown passes in his
last two games. He had a terrible game. He's playing a bad defense. I'm starting Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
I've got still agree 100% on Bo Nix. I would also start Russell Wilson ahead of him,
but it's their nine, 10, 11 for me. Yeah. I didn't like him last week because I think
we haven't been giving the Cardinals defense enough credit. The one thing about this is like,
But the one thing about this is like, there are bi-weeks coming up for the Jets. Like it's just, you can't have a good feeling about it.
That's the problem.
You just can't have a good feeling.
But like, I think that's awesome.
You have him ranked where you have him.
I have him in one league where, you know, there's people hoarding quarterbacks and
I can't find somebody that I like that's better.
So I'm going to start him again, but it's, it's with no confidence whatsoever.
I started in a lot of leagues, Aaron Rodgers.
He's one of my, he was one of my most rostered quarterbacks and I've moved away from him
this week for Bo Nicks in one league.
I can't remember off the top of my head, but he, as the high guy on Aaron Rodgers,
would you start Bo Nicks over him?
I think I just said that moments ago, Bo Nicks sorry. Moments ago, bone X and Russell Wilson both.
And that's why I didn't say that Rogers was the player I love
because there were two quarterbacks on the waiver
wire that I'm starting over.
So I would have moved away from him for those guys.
But if I couldn't get those guys, I'm starting.
All right. Atlanta's at Denver.
I'm going to let you have a quarterback running back
wide receiver combo in this game from either team.
Which one do you like?
Which which which trio would you take, the Broncos or the Falcons?
Falcons.
Just for B's on alone.
Yeah.
But is that, but I looked at your rankings.
There's a pretty big difference between Bo Nicks and Kirk Cousins.
And I was wondering if that was enough to make up the gap.
There's a really big difference between B John Robinson and
whoever the Broncos is.
Okay.
Then my second question, Cortland Sutton.
Yeah, you're taking Sutton and like I like Sutton better than the Falcons receivers.
That's my question.
Yeah.
So give me Sutton and Bijon. I mean, I'm sorry.
You can't have that.
Yeah, I can't have that.
It is close.
Okay, okay. Not a terrible question. Maybe not as close for Heath because he likes
Drake London better than Jamie does.
But okay.
But my follow-up question was,
do you like Sutton or London?
Jamie said Sutton.
How about you Heath?
I think I have it almost back to back to back.
They're all number two wide receivers,
but London, Mooney, Sutton.
Okay.
Kansas City at Buffalo,
James Cook or Kareem Hunt,
Khalil Shakir or Deandre Hopkins?
Hunt and Shakir.
So I currently have Cook just ahead of Hunt, I think,
but they are again, very, very close.
Shakir is completely dependent on who's playing
for the Bills.
If both Cooper and Coleman are out,
then it's definitely Shakir.
All right, Cincinnati's at the Chargers.
Are there any must start Charger players?
Dobbins.
I'm starting Dobbins.
And I have Herbert ranked as a top 10 quarterback this week,
so I would start him.
You like Dobbins better than Kareem Hunt and James Cook?
No.
I think I have a Cook Dobbins Hunt,
but it might be Cook Hunt Dobbins.
I'll put a caveat on it.
Gus Edwards missed or was limited in practice
with an ankle injury.
I hope it's just rest for him,
but if he's out then it should be good.
This is a good matchup for the receivers though.
It's just, you can't say must start from a cockier or Johnson.
I know it's a really interesting game.
Find out a lot about the chargers in this game.
But the Chiefs have not allowed more than 13.2 PPR fantasy
points to a running back all year.
Just going back to James Cook.
That includes Bijan, Kamara, Derek Henry,
J.K. Dobbins, Jordan Mason.
None of them scored more than 13.2 PPR fantasy points.
So James Cook has just a brutal matchup.
All right, Minnesota at Tennessee.
Good run defenses here.
Can you trust the running backs in this game?
Yeah.
Well, let me, is Aaron Jones healthy?
Yeah.
I mean, he's going to play.
It seems like let's for the purposes of this argument, he's going to play.
Then love Aaron Jones and Tony Pollard.
I have these guys behind the, the cook hunt Dobbins group, but they
are number two running backs
very strange it's tennis they give a lot of touchdowns Titans but like how
fluky is this they give up the most receiving touchdowns to running backs my
space that just seems so strange I think they've given up five receiving
touchdowns to running backs but they give up the third fewest receiving yards and
three point eight four yards per carry to running backs. That's awesome.
But somehow guys keep catching touchdowns against them.
I don't know if that's fluke or scheme or what.
All right, Baltimore's at Pittsburgh.
Starter sit, Mark Andrews.
Start.
He's a starter.
And yeah, it is really weird
because they also give up the fourth fewest
running back targets.
So that touchdown thing is very strange.
That's Tennessee.
All right, yeah, you guys like Mark Andrews this week
because Isaiah likely did practice.
Yeah.
If likely is active,
then Andrews will probably be around 12 for me.
Okay.
But as of now, he's like top eight, I think for everyone.
Yeah.
All right. Yeah, I don't know if there were like top eight, I think for everyone. Yeah. All right.
Yeah, I don't know if there were too many tough calls in Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
Obviously, we'll talk about Russell Wilson a little bit later.
There's no game on this slate that we're doing today that's just one of those throwaway,
oh, I know who to start, who to sit.
So this is kind of a tougher slate, which is good.
I love that interesting slate.
And finally, Las Vegas at Miami, who is the best wide receiver in this game?
It's Kirby Myers. Yeah, of course. And finally Las Vegas at Miami, who is the best wide receiver in this game?
It's going to be Myers. Yeah, of course.
It might be.
Now that Gardner, I haven't adjusted my rankings yet
with the quarterback news,
but yeah, Myers is probably the safest one.
I definitely think he's the safest,
but I have the guts to start him over Tyree Hill
because I do think Hill has more upside.
Who do you have ranked higher Hill or Meyers?
Currently Hill, but I think I'm gonna adjust that Meyers Meyers.
And where do you have Hill? 20. He'll be around 15 for me. Now it's time for the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Co-Pilot Plus PCs
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workhorse running back to highlight this week? I mean, it's got to be Kareem Hunt. You look at
over the last five games now, at least 20 touches in every single these 21 touches in every single game. He's got a 28 touch game
He's got a 24 touch game. He's got two 28 touch games
He is the Energizer bunny just keeps going and going and going
And he and the bills allow the second most fantasy points to running backs
Four point six six yards per carrier to running backs the most receiving yards per game the running backs
That hasn't always been a thing for hunt but
seven catches last week and maybe what do you think i'll give you over under his longest run
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Colts and the Jets.
Oh, Super Bowl III rematch guys.
I didn't even think about that.
Unbelievable.
Jets are four point favorites.
Updated stat of the game,
the Colts, they're the new commanders.
They've allowed 78 yards or a touchdown
to 15 wide receivers in 10 games.
Jamie, optimistic about Wilson
and Adams this week?
I'm starting them. Last week was clearly frustrating and disappointing, you know, especially when
you talk about Devontae Adams getting 13 targets. But you saw what they were capable of doing
two games ago. I don't think this is secondary you fear. And hopefully this is a bounce back
performance for both of them if you're going to buy into Aaron Rodgers. So it could also
be a situation where both those guys do well from a catch and yards
perspective and don't find the end zone because you go back to the Houston game for Rodgers
and you got the lucky touchdown I think, not lucky but you got the late touchdown for the
Jets for Devonte Adams.
So I'm starting
Wilson as a borderline number one number two receiver. It's a
it's not a great week for wide receivers. And I'm starting
Devontae Adams as a number two receiver.
How many of these guys? How many? How many of these two
guys? Adams and Wilson? Do you have ranked ahead of Drake
London? Both.
Wilson for sure. Adams is right in that wide receiver to
range with him. I have Adams right behind London. Alright,
so look, I'm not going to belabor it too much. These guys
are starts. We're hoping for a bounce back here. Personally,
if I have Jets, I want to Forest Buckner to miss this
game because even though the Jets didn't give up a lot of
pressures last week, I mean, it's like every time he is pressured he gets sacked he just he's so slow
cannot get away from anyone but Rogers I get and you're gonna start Breeze Hall I know it's been
tough for Breeze Hall and I gotta say there's some underlying issues here with Breeze Hall
he is not making the explosive plays not even close to what he was as a rookie. He's got one of the highest rates of carries for zero or negative yards, and
he only has three to four targets in three straight games.
And that's directly related to Devante Adams.
But he's not like a top five guy or anything like that.
But he's a starter.
Rogers is, I guess, the question mark here.
And I've already really talked about him, but Heath, you have him 11th, Jamie 17th and
Dave 23rd.
You want to make one final case for Rogers, Heath?
I don't think the Colts defense is very good.
He's been good in two of his last three games.
Rogers has, they have an implied total of right around 24 and he's been responsible
for about 75% of their touchdowns this year.
I like that.
And Jamie's a little more cautious. So let's go over to the Colts where Jonathan
Taylor is probably, I'm assuming the only must start for them.
Yeah, I still think Josh Downs is in the number two receiver mix. You know, let's give him some
credit and give Richardson some credit. Last time these guys were together against Houston,
it was, you know, four catches, but 109 yards in the touchdown on nine targets.
So the targets were still the same that he's been getting with Joe Flacco.
It's just a matter of the quality of targets are certainly not gonna be the same
for a guy that's completing 44% of his passes in Richardson.
So it's not as slam dunk as it was.
It's still I think a matchup that can be exploited.
The thing for, well, we'll get to Richard in a second. But I think with
Pittman coming back, it just completely eliminates any chance
you have whether you trust the quarterback or not of believing
in and trusting Alec Pierce or Adonai Mitchell. So I think all
three of those guys are basically avoids like I'd be
sitting Pittman if I still have them.
Do you guys can ask you guys a question about about my job?
Does it even make sense to be like, Oh, should you start these two guys over Breece Hall
or Jonathan Taylor or just since Taylor is going to be started in over 90% of leagues,
just kind of skip it.
Am I wasting?
I don't want to waste people's time.
What do you think?
I've only been doing this for 16 years, so I just, you know,
You said there was no games
where it's almost all easy starts.
And I feel like this other than,
other than downs almost profiles this time.
I kind of felt that way as I was doing this.
I probably should have made this game last,
but so many people are so worried about the Jets
that I really thought let's highlight them.
But also this Richardson thing is just,
it just stinks for Josh Downs. I mean, he's been really
bad with Richardson, except for that one game. Well, to be fair, first two games, Downs in play
week three, Downs first came back with Richardson and then Richardson was in and out of the lineup.
Yeah, he's got, you're right. It's only three games with Richardson, but the first two were
absolutely horrible. The second one was 22. It's only three games with with Richardson, but the first two were absolutely horrible.
The second one was twenty two point two fantasy points at Houston.
Someone asked Josh Downs or Devante Smith.
Downs, Downs. OK.
Josh Downs or Drake London.
London, London. All right.
And Anthony Richards, Jamie, for you, Anthony Richardson or Aaron Rodgers?
Rodgers. But this is what this is what I said about Kyler last week.
It was three or four. Now it's four or five, uh,
where the jets have given up a rushing touchdown to a quarterback.
And you've seen it in Russell Wilson scoring a rushing touchdown,
Josh Allen scoring rush touchdown, Kyler scoring two and Drake may in that half before he got concussed
46 yards rushing in a touchdown in all of those instances granted all those quarterbacks
Playing better than then Anthony Richardson right now all of them scored as a group because you got to put the Patriots as a group
19.9 fantasy points or more can Richardson do that?
Well, there's no semblance of confidence saying you can't because aside from week one, he's been 13 and a half fantasy points or less in every
start. But you know, you wonder if does he have two things in his favor? One, a defense
that struggles to stop rushing quarterbacks and two, which is, you know, more of a concept
than a theory than anything you could prove. Look what happened to Bryce Young when he
got sat down, right? He maybe processed things a little bit better,
came back and looked like a better quarterback.
Does the same thing happen to Anthony Richardson?
I don't know, and I would say probably not,
because I don't know if there's enough of a sample size
to say that he learned anything,
because Joe Flacco was terrible.
But you're hoping, you're hoping that the tapping out
and the struggles with accuracy, that's
not fixable.
The tapping out is obviously something he can learn from.
But I'm curious to see.
I really would like to see.
I think he said it best on sports network yesterday where this is a guy you want to
roster.
This is not someone you want to start.
He certainly should be picked up obviously in any super flex or two QB leagues he's available.
But if he does have a good game here, you know, maybe this is the start of something.
Do we have 15 seconds for a terrible Heath's take Adam?
Oh yeah, sure.
The tapping out thing is overblown.
Wide receivers tap out all the time.
Running backs tap out all the time.
Quarterbacks have never done it.
Quarterbacks have never done what Anthony Richardson had to do on that play.
Shaking off a 350 pound man and then running and getting tackled again after a 30 yard
run.
It's understandable he was tired.
Everybody else on the field would have been tired too.
I completely agree.
Thank you for saying that was a great Heath take.
And I'll also say that was that bad.
No, it was great.
I know you agreed.
His ankle hurt or something.
That's why he wanted out.
Yes.
Telling the truth was his problem.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
One of the things, one of the reasons he got the job back is that they said he
did a, he did a better job the last two weeks of,
of the in week before the game preparation,
that process that he really focused on that and made
progress there.
So that is something that could certainly translate into
on field results.
I will read a few questions about this game and then we'll
move on from the chat.
Downs or Waddle?
Downs.
Yep.
Richardson or Justin Herbert?
Herbert.
It's Herbert.
Richardson or Caleb Williams?
Richardson.
Yep.
Josh Downs or Cedric Tillman?
Tillman.
Or Lockstep.
And that's it for this game.
Oh, JetsDST.
Heath has them fifth.
Dave and Jamie 16th. You're gonna move them up with
the Richardson news or not? You haven't refreshed this morning.
My friend. I just I just refreshed. I just refreshed.
Didn't I? Yes, I just refresh. Okay, so where are they? Fifth.
Okay.
Refresh again. Let's see. Jets.
Yeah, I still have them at,
oh wait, there they are, now they're sixth.
I swear to God, I just refreshed before I asked that.
All right, they're sixth for you,
they're still low for Dave.
All right, let's move on to our next game.
Atlantis at Denver, stat of the game.
I think I said this one earlier,
the Falcons have allowed 21 or more fantasy points
to four straight quarterbacks.
Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield,
the combination of Cooper Rush and Dak Prescott,
and Derek Hart last week was just horrible.
So here comes Bo Nix.
All right.
We already talked about him.
Jamie said that's the player that he loves.
How high are you on Cortland Sutton this week, guys?
Do you have him in your top 15?
on Cortland Sutton this week, guys. Do you have him in your top 15?
He's borderline right there.
Top 20 for sure.
All right, yeah, I think he's never.
He's been all through three straight games, I mean.
I'm excited for him.
So yeah, so 15.3 or more fantasy points
in four of his last five games
and tough matchup last week and he came through.
What about Audrick Estimé? 68% roster. Uh, what about an Audra guest to me?
68% roster.
Does anybody want to start Audra?
I would prefer to just roster him at this point and see what happens.
Yeah.
I just talked about how much I don't want to start nausea and I would
still start nausea over Audra guest to me.
Ask us to Audra guest to me or he most dirt from the chat.
I have most are one spot higher right now. I don't want to make too much of that one game.
It sounds like they're still going to use them, but it's, I don't really have a strong
feel Jason asks to pick two of these three.
Cortland, Sutton, Nick Chubb and Tony Pollard and half PPR. Sutton and Pollard.
Sutton and Pollard. Oh no, no, I'm sorry.
Nick Chubb, Nick Chubb and Sutton.
Okay.
Let's get your Bo Nix questions people.
Bo Nix, I'm looking for some Bo Nix.
Oh, here we go.
Nix or Jaden Daniels?
Daniels.
Daniels.
I will ask Nix or Jared golf against Jags.
Next I've got golf.
All right.
He's top 12 though.
Bo Nicks.
So you can start them.
All right.
So that's the Broncos.
Now let's focus on the Falcons.
Sitker cousins.
Easy sit.
Yes.
Yeah.
And start B. Yes. Yeah.
And start Bijan Robinson.
He's had four good games this season
to have been against Tampa Bay.
I know, and not just that, I mean, he's had like,
I have it here somewhere.
How many games where he has single digit fantasy points?
It's a lot, or 10.2 or fewer.
One, two, three, four, four or five.
He's got such a low floor. Okay, so sit him sit cousin start
Bijan. Okay, now we've talked about the receivers. I saw Drake London or Joanne Jennings. Who do you
guys have there? I have Jennings London for me. Drake London, nine end zone targets ranking fifth in the
NFL, but I, I'm nervous. I'm very nervous. I do think he's
going to get shattered by Sir Tan. I think Sir Tan is going
to win this matchup. I think it's going to be, I think it
could be a 50 yard game, no touchdowns.
Just to go through it.
It could be a 50 yard game, no touchdowns and it's still 12 or 13 fantasy points.
I could be generous there because just DK Metcalf, George Pickens, Mike Evans, Garrett
Wilson, Deandre Hopkins, 41 or fewer yards, zero touchdowns, single digit PPR fantasy
points against the Broncos.
Only Zay Flowers has had more than 80 yards against the Broncos.
So it's, it's brutal. It's a brutal, and it's not just certain by the way, it's not like he's the only good player that they have.
Like they just have a good defense. Yeah. All right.
Let's say fire away with your Drake London questions, but you guys,
pretty much value. Here's one London or Tyreek Hill.
you guys pretty much value, here's one, London or Tyreek Hill?
Tyreek.
I've got London.
You pretty much value Mooney and London similarly, right?
Yes, back to back.
And Jamie, how do you rank them?
Mooney, slightly ahead of London.
All right, how about like,
Drake London or JK Dob, JK Dobbins?
Dobbins for me.
Uh, London has, I think it's funny on that Tyreek question.
You know, the Raiders and Broncos have given up almost exactly the same number
of fantasy points per game to opposing white receivers.
That's what I said at the top of the show is, is actually a
bad matchup for Tyreek Hill.
Um, here's what, here's a question.
Sit one of these guys in PPR Drake London
Tyreek Hill, Cedric Tillman or Calvin Ridley.
Sitting London.
Oh,
I'm sitting Ridley.
You have Tillman over London, huh, Jamie?
I do.
Okay.
Cousins or Gino?
Whose last three games have been better?
I think London, London left one of them after like, with like Cousins or Gino? Whose last three games have been better?
I think London left one of them after like, with like 20% of the snaps.
Cousins or Gino?
Gino.
Gino.
London or Dell or Downs?
London.
London.
London or Kraft?
London. London. Mo or craft. London. London.
Mooney or Sutton.
Sutton.
Mooney.
And then Heath just answered this one,
but Jamie, London or Ridley, you both can answer.
London or Ridley.
I did answer it when you gave a list of Ridley and London
in the same question and I said,
I would start Ridley over London.
Oh, you said you'd sit London in that.
Yes.
Yeah, okay, okay.
All right, so I think that's pretty much it. Oh, Kyle Pitts. Forget about Kyle Pitts. How we feel
about Kyle Pitts this week.
I don't love him. But low end starter. I would start him over
Ingram, for example.
Yeah, I'd start him over Goddard tonight.
I like Goddard tonight.
I like Goddard better, but I can see that. Would you start Tucker Kraft or Kyle Pitts?
Kraft.
Heath, what'd you say?
Pitts.
Pitts.
Would you start John who Smith or Kyle Pitts?
Pitts. Only way I would start John who over Pitts Kyle Pitts. It's the only way I would start John who overpits as if Tyreeks ruled out.
But by the way, Kyle Pitts, he is, I looked at 33 tight ends with 25 or more targets, fifth in yards per target, second in yards per catch.
Just doesn't get a lot of targets. That's the issue here.
It's target share. He's had a target share higher than 18.5%
in only one game this season.
Denver is 20th against tight ends.
And I'm just trying to, yeah, I don't know.
I was trying to see if maybe they get a lot
of tight end targets because they're good against receivers,
but I don't know that they do.
Kelsey had 12, but he's Kelsey.
All right, that's it for that game.
Unless, yeah, Denver DST, they're top seven.
You can start them.
We're gonna take a break.
We've got Chiefs and Bills.
I'm a little worried about this game.
I feel like the Chiefs are gonna kick their butt,
but we'll see.
All right, we'll be right back on fantasy football today.
What do you think Heath?
Chiefs gonna go in there and kick their butt?
No, it's not January yet.
Bills are two point favorites in this game.
I think, I don't know how you feel,
but like no Cooper and no Coleman last week
and Allen was bad against the Colts.
So
he's three and one against the chiefs in the regular season.
He has multiple touchdowns in every one of those games.
My expectation, because I think there's been pretty much
all of their games are like this.
Probably whoever gets the ball last is going to win.
It's going to be a one score game.
And Josh Allen's probably going to score 25 fantasy points.
Why I went out and said they got, why I said that, you know,
cause that's just leaving me open to so much criticism.
And they don't really like,
I feel like they don't kick a lot of people's butts.
I feel like they win a lot of close games, but I, yeah.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I'm just gonna, I'm just going to a lot of close games. But I- The Chiefs? Yeah, the Chiefs. Right, yeah, so I'm just gonna stick
with my original prediction.
Tyler Bass misses a 35 yard field goal at the buzzer.
I would say one thing you could probably bet on
is the Chiefs are going to be down by a touchdown
at some point in the game.
Because they pretty much are every week.
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sign up. All right. Now to the stats, to the starts and the sits, uh, Patrick with homes
is a sit. That's what homes are Kirk cousins.
I mean, I was a little surprised at the ranking.
He's no higher than 17th for anybody unless I just haven't hit refresh.
But I feel like he's playing better lately.
You guys feel that way?
My homes?
Yeah, he's definitely playing better lately.
I mean, first off, he had two great matchups against the Raiders and the Bucks.
And then he comes back last week against a team
that he's typically struggled against and he played fine.
He just didn't have a big statistical day,
which is kind of what the case is with him.
A lot of the times is he's not playing poorly.
He's just not producing for fantasy.
Like there's a big difference.
There's a reason why they're undefeated.
You know, it's, he'd said they're down seven.
Okay, Patrick, go lead us on a drive.
Okay. You know, it's like, yes, they're down seven. Okay, Patrick, go lead us on a drive. Okay.
You know, it's like, yes, sir.
Just go and do it.
Yeah.
He can do that almost anytime he wants to.
It's just when they get inside the red zone,
they're running and you know,
they're relying on their defense.
I'm sure if he had to go throw it 50 times,
he'd have 302.
But what is this bill's defense good at? What is this
bill's defense bad at? Well, they're obviously they're always good at taking away both teams
here. They take away big plays in the passing game. And you can run on the bills. And you can
definitely run on the bills. You can't run on the Chiefs. All right. So we like, so we don't love
Mahomes this week. And we do like Kareem Hunt and he's- This will be interesting though, if Juju plays.
Because has he had, now, not that these guys are great,
they're not in their prime, they're not superstar receivers,
but has he had a situation where he's had three
healthy pass catchers that have some significance
to their game?
No.
No, but does, I don't know that he has that.
I mean, Xavier Worthy is doing nothing. What will has that. I mean, Xavier worthy is doing nothing.
What will be, what I'm not sure about is like, what is Juju going to do?
Cause I don't think they're going to move Hopkins to like a downfield role.
I'm not sure Juju plays that much.
Speaking of Hopkins starter sit number three, starting through, see really sitting to receive.
He's got three games with the Chiefs.
You want to throw out the first one because he didn't have enough knowledge of the playbook
and play enough.
Fine.
Throw it out.
Monster game against Tampa Bay.
Two words.
Tampa Bay comes back next week against Denver.
Two words.
You know the words.
Patrick Stan.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, Baltimore, I mean, Buffalo's past defense, you said it's been good.
You know, they haven't given up a lot of big production to number one receivers either.
So I don't know if you're saying, OK, it's just he's escaping Patrick's or tan.
He's going to be fine. I don't think so.
I'm not saying that.
Buffalo is much, much closer to Patrick's or tan than they are to Tampa Bay.
Yeah. Yeah.
Travis Kelsey is the easiest start in this game. Josh Allen, you guys have in the top five,
uh, four straight games with 23.8 to 28.4 fantasy points before a terrible game last week. 18.2
fantasy points. That's terrible for him at the Colts. Can we play it, play the game?
Where does Josh Allen rank at quarterback and fantasy points per game?
I'm gonna say fourth. I'll say three. Five. Oh okay and that's where Heath has him this week.
Um all right and uh okay so James Cook you know James like who are some guys you might start over James Cook? Again I mentioned it the Chiefs haven't allowed more than 13.2 PPR fantasy points
to a running back all season.
So give me some guys you'd start over James Cook.
Chase Brown, I think it's easy.
Breece Holt.
Kareem Hunt.
Kareem Hunt.
I'm moving Cook behind Dobbins.
I would as well.
And I'll give you one more Nick Chubb.
Yeah, I'm, I hope, I hope that Jamie's optimism about Nick Chubb is right. I want to see Nick
Chubb be Nick Chubb again. I'm going to have to see it before I go quite that high.
Though Chief's run defense being this great, it started, and I'm not going to say there was
some adjustment or anything, or I have not going to say there was some adjustment
or anything, or I have no idea, but it started last postseason against the Bills. That was
the beginning of this stretch where they were, they have been dominant against running backs.
And James Cook started that stretch with 18 carries for 61 yards, four catches for 21
yards. He scored 12.2 PPR fantasy points. All right. Heath,
break down the Bills wide receivers. Khalil Shakir seems pretty safe for about 11 PPR
fantasy points. We're hoping Cooper can play. Keon Coleman's not going to play. There's
Mack Hollins who's had two good games in a row with the injuries. Break down the Bills
receivers against the Chiefs who are 10th best against receivers.
Khalil Shakir is the only Bills wide receiver that I really want to start, no matter who
plays.
But if Cooper and Coleman are both out, then Khalil Shakir is a number two wide receiver
that I really want to start.
If one of those guys is playing, I'm viewing Shakir as a high end number three.
Both Coleman and Cooper, if they're able to play are probably like flex darts
throws.
I'm sorry, I thought that Keon Coleman had been ruled out, but
I think I'm wrong. So I'm
on Coleman is not expected to play. I don't know if he's
officially been ruled out. I believe Sean McDermott said at
the beginning of the week that they're not expecting.
Okay, okay. And he did not practice yesterday. So
if they have their buy next week. So they're going to be cautious
with that's why I think it's also going to be cautious with
Kincaid. If sorry for asking this again, because I asked it
earlier in the show. But if Cooper plays, would you go who if
Cooper plays, who's the highest ranked receiver in this game?
Shakir. It's probably Hopkins for me, but he and Shakir would be very, very close.
All right.
So you guys are not going to want to start Amari Cooper if he plays and then Dawson Knox.
This is one of the biggest rankings disputes.
Let me just go to the rankings and I need to adjust my Dawson Knox.
I wanted to see like who's practicing for the bills before I put Dawson Knox too high.
Okay.
Um, I think I've got him 24th right now. He's probably going to be somewhere between
13 and 17. Okay. And that's still going to be lower than Jamie who has him.
I'm going to drop him a few spots. I was a little too aggressive with my Dawson Knox ranking.
So he'll settle in around. He's going to be in the top 12.
Okay. Okay. So you didn't like Evan Ingham, you just said you don't like Evan Ingham. Evan Ingham or Dawson Knox?
Dawson Knox.
Assuming Kincaid is up.
Of course.
I think like part of it for me is
on a per game basis this year,
Dalton Kincaid is what?
Tight end 15 or something?
Maybe he's higher than that now.
19, tight end 19.
Like I, I'm not sure.
Like hopefully Dawson Knox scores a touchdown, but don't
think he doesn't been any good.
Can Kate has not been any good, but if Kincaid was playing this
week against this defense, I would like Kincaid a lot, especially
if Amari Cooper joins Keon Coleman sitting, there's a lot of factors here
at play, if it plays, then Knox goes from 12 to probably 15
and I would start Ingram over him.
So there's a lot of things we have to keep an eye on here.
But the thing that I like about Dawson Knox
is he's got such an opportunity here.
And it's, you know, and this is, I think,
where Heath and I differ in our process.
Like I buy into the hope more so than Heath does
typically when we have these
conversations. So with what he's got in front of him, if there is no Kinkade, if there is
no Mark Cooper playing against his defense, which has given up a lot of production to
the Titans, we can't sit here and say we like Josh Allen without saying we're going to like
somebody helping him. Now it could be Matt Collins, it could be Shakir, it could be Ty
Johnson for all we know. Ray Davis scored a 63-yard touchdown two games ago to help
him and his production, and his legs will be there for
him also, but somebody's going to have to catch some passes here. And so I think when
you just look at Knox's scenario, everybody is gone. You know, so it's, uh, six of the
last seven games, Kinkaitis had six plus targets. The one game we did was last week when he
left he had five, you know, so you're looking at six to seven targets against this chief defense, I probably can go back
and look at and say, how many guys have had six plus targets and what have
they done?
It's probably pretty good.
So if Knox gets those chances, if, if, if he should have the chance for a good
game, you got to buy into the F.
I think like the real thing that we have to decide today is Amare
Cooper's a partial participant at practice again today.
And you have to make a decision.
You're starting Dawson Knox or Dallas Goddard.
You're starting Dawson Knox or Zach Ertz.
Um, so I think in the case of Ertz, for me, at least if those are my choices,
like if I've been starting Ertz all season, I'm going to stick with Ertz.
But if, if those are my choices, like as a pivot play, I probably, and
Kinkade misses and, and Cooper's limited again, I may just wait it out and go get Will Disley,
who's gotten nine plus points in three of his last four and has a great matchup also,
you know, so like that would be the move I think I would do.
And I want to bring this up because, because last week I gave a stat last Friday, Thursday
or Friday about Dalton Kcaid getting five to seven
targets most weeks.
And there had been a few tight ends that had had five to seven targets against the Colts.
And I think four out of five of them had big games.
And Dalton Kincaid didn't.
He had two catches for 24 yards on five targets, but he was wide open for a touchdown and Josh Allen missed him. And if he had caught that pass,
I would have said, look, even with five targets against a great matchup like the Colts were,
he could have been really good. And by the way, he had a 50% target per out run rate last week,
Dalton Kincaid with Amari Cooper and Kion Coleman out. So if Kincaid might play this week,
but I think there's a, if Cooper does not play, then you could see him thrown to the
tight ends a lot. And you would have, if Allen didn't miss him
on a wide open ball, you would have seen a good game from a
tight end and a great matchup. And they have a great matchup
against the Chiefs. Obviously it's maybe a little bit of a
stretch, but reason for it.
This is the type of thing that wins you your week or loses you
your week in some cases because of how you buy into these guys and what their expectations are or their failures have been.
So if Knox catches a touch. Look, he could have two catches for 10 yards and a touchdown.
And then we're straddling the fence here on did he have a good game or not, you know, because the tight end.
So it's just a matter of who you're comparing him to.
So I'm more aggressive with it because of I don't like Ingram's situation. I'm tired of the Pitt's
frustration. I'm tired of, you know, whatever other tight end you want to throw into the
conversation here hasn't been.
Somebody brought up Jake Ferguson. Would you start him over Ferguson?
Yeah, Ferguson, not somebody I want to trust right now in that matchup against Houston,
statistically number one against opposing tight ends. And he didn't have a great game with Cooper rush, but again,
he's going to get probably more chances if Josh Allen does not lean on his
backup tight end. All right. All right. Let's move on to our next game.
And the D the DSTs are in play here. You can check the rankings,
but this game that was a long time. That was all right.
So let's go to Cincinnati and the chargers here.
Let's the chargers against good offenses. So far this year, the chiefs and the Cardinals scored 17 points, but this is going to be the toughest test so far. The Bengals against good defenses,
they scored 25 points at the chiefs. They scored 14 offensive points at Cleveland. If they were good
defense, they scored 17 points against Philadelphia. So this is a much different, different challenge
than Baltimore. And I don't know how this game is going to play Philadelphia. So this is a much different challenge than Baltimore.
And I don't know how this game is gonna play out.
And this is such an interesting game here.
I think I heard that this is the first game this season
the Chargers have played against a team, a top 10 offense.
Yeah, they've had such a cake schedule,
but they've been fantastic defensively.
So you guys have no hesitation on Joe Burrow.
He's top four.
Doesn't seem to be a lot of hesitation on Chase Brown.
He's top 12 in PPR.
He's like top 16.
Dave's a little bit lower on him,
but you guys are very high on Chase Brown.
Jamar Chase, you're gonna start.
Just wanna give you this stat here just for fun,
just for fun.
Jamar Chase has averaged 48.4 points per game
against the Ravens in two games
and 16.1 points per game in his other eight games.
So, uh, that, that's, that was interesting.
Starter sit T Higgins. If he plays Heath, man, you hate, I know, I know.
Last week, yesterday you wanted to sit him in the fantasy championship because of
a bad matchup. And now he's terrible against everyone to the Ravens.
He's going to get luxurious needs. Sit him everywhere.
I know it's how I do bad. Um, but,. But T Higgins, if he plays starter sit.
Must start receiver.
Yeah, I think you'd have to start him.
It doesn't seem like he's playing at 50,
if he's not fully healthy.
So I'm gonna assume if he's playing,
he's fully healthy.
Here's one of my stats of the game.
T Higgins has seven or more targets in four of five games.
There have only been five wide receivers
who have had more than seven targets against the chargers, but four of them scored 14.3 or more PPR fantasy points.
So that's one of the reasons why the Chargers have been so good against receivers. They
just don't get thrown on, but we've seen in kind of recent weeks they have been thrown
on a little bit more and there's been some success there. And T Higgins again, seven
or more targets in four or five games. If we're, if we like Higgins, what does it mean for Gassicki, Jamie?
If Higgins plays, you can't trust Gassicki. If Higgins is
out, then Gassicki is going to be in a lot of my lineups. And
you know, I went through, you know, waivers the last two days
of Tuesday and Wednesday, and you know, all 30 of my leagues
and where I have Gassicki, I'm just holding him, you know, and
trying to find, you know find other options just in case.
So Dawson Knox will definitely be a pivot place for me if Higgins is in.
And I don't have another tight end that I like.
But I think you just look at it. Nine targets last week, he just didn't have a big game.
He was still heavily involved, should continue to be heavily involved.
I can't imagine that just because of...
I'm blanking on it, Tanner Hudson.
Just because the game that he had,
it's going to be bad for Guseki.
So yeah, it's Higgins in, Guseki out, Higgins out, Guseki in.
And someone's asking Guseki or Will Disley
if Higgins plays?
Disley.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Justin Herbert, getting a lot of Justin Herbert questions. And I love
it. Right. So he's playing pretty well. Um, he's got, uh, he had 279 or more yards in
three straight games before only throwing 18 passes last week against the Titans, Herbert
or love in a four point per passing touchdown. The question from Dan, I would go Herbert
Herbert ran for 32 yards last week.
I've, I've got love.
My biggest problem with Herbert is like, there's not, I can't find anything in his
game log that suggests any sort of trend at all.
Jamie's right.
He ran for 32 yards last week.
He ran for two yards the week before that we had this two or three weeks.
We had a three week stretch where he threw at least 32 passes and three straight games and then he's thrown 45 passes
in his last two games combined.
He has three games all year with two passing touchdowns.
I think he's very good.
I just don't, I've got him as a high end QB too, and I don't have any
confidence in ranking him higher or lower.
And I think that's the, the people who are concerned about
Herbert, how they'll approach it.
And I started the week that way also, but it's, you know, looking at Cincinnati's defense,
the hope, again, there's that word that I know you don't like and I'll buy into, is
that this is a shootout, you know, because the Chargers defense doesn't necessarily play
like it's been performing statistically.
And it's Joe Burrow on the other side and Jamar Chase and hopefully T. Higgins and Chase
Brown and that offense just comes into town and puts up points and
then Herbert has to throw.
So I'm hopeful that's the case and in the case of Jordan Love, I mean look if you want
to roster a quarterback and only go with one of these guys you're going to want to go with
Love over Herbert because it feels like the ceiling is higher for him but you got to give
the Bears some credit.
You know they haven't given up big games to quarterbacks many times this season.
And so I think they'll frustrate Love a little bit.
So I look at Herbert having slightly higher ceiling.
There are a few spots apart,
both are number one quarterbacks for me.
So if you wanna go with Love over Herbert,
I'm not gonna find anybody on that.
Yeah, I think I'm lower on both those guys.
I would start Bo Nix and Russell Wilson over both of them.
I would start Nix over both.
I have Herbert ahead of Wilson.
The way I feel about Herbert, I have a feeling you'll agree,
is if he can throw 30 or more passes,
he's probably gonna have a good game.
And I'm just hoping that the Bengals put enough pressure on.
And not only that, the Bengals have a good run defense.
They started out with a terrible run defense,
but they were very injured early in the year.
Now their run defense has really come around and, um, you know, just double check. Like last week, Derek Henry, 16 carries, 68 yards in
a touchdown. The week before that, the Raiders running backs were terrible. The week before that
Barkley was good. The week before that Nick Chubb averaged two yards per carry. Um, Tyrone Tracy
averaged like three yards per carry. So they've, they've come around, their run defense is good.
So I'm just hoping for a lot of points
because the Bengals give up the fifth most fantasy points
to the quarterbacks.
That's really been four games where they've been crushed
by Lamar Jackson twice, Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts.
They haven't been bad against kind of fringy quarterbacks.
But that's my hope for Herbert is that he has to throw more
in this game because this will be the first time
they give up more than, I don't think they've given up more than 20 points all year.
I do think, I think your theory is exactly right.
And I quickly agreed that if he throws 30 passes,
he's going to be good.
And then I looked and he's thrown 30 passes in three games
and he was good in one of them.
He also doesn't have great receivers.
I mean, it's true.
Like these guys are good.
They're not great, but you're right.
It's nothing set in stone.
So, Jamie, do you also have bone X ahead of Herbert?
I do.
I think, you know, looking at the floor probably is a little bit safer for next just based
on what we've seen over the last six weeks by comparison to the last, you know, three
of the last four or three, I'm sorry, three in a row for Herbert.
But I agree with you.
There is the chance for a higher ceiling for Herbert here because of what he could be in this game. It's just a matter of you know, will he get to that point? And
so I like Nick slightly better, but both are top eight quarterbacks. I think I have it. golf is
somewhere in the mix also, but next to seven, I think golf might be eight and Herbert nine or
Herbert's eight and golf is nine.
All right, Herbert or Tua?
Herbert, Herbert for sure.
Okay, Chargers running backs,
we're not gonna start Gus Edwards,
but he's 39% roster and he can still pick him up.
JK, I'm gonna double check on that.
I think that was as of yesterday.
I'm gonna double check on that roster percentage
for Gus Edwards.
Dobbins is a low end starter.
He's around 20th in the rankings.
This is a good defense.
He doesn't do well against good run defenses.
I'm a little nervous here.
You guys nervous about Dobbins?
A little bit.
I think Dobbins, Cook, James Cook, Tony Pollard,
they all make me nervous as low end number two running backs.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nick Chubb is better than all of them.
All right, Gus Edwards is now rostered in 47% of these. How do you feel about the chargers wide
receivers? Both. Both good number three receivers. I wish there was something to say,
this is why you should start them with confidence. Right. But there's, you know, you're not going to
chase the touchdowns for Johnston the last two weeks. You know, you've said this a number
of times, if Denzel Ward doesn't fall down, does he have the big game against the Browns?
Or forget about him, whatever it was. Yeah, he's busted coverage. You know, busted coverage.
But look, he's, he's played what, like eight games and he's scored in four of them. He
gets a touchdown every seven targets, Quinton Johnson. That's the real stat.
Right. That's something to hang your hat on there.
So I think number three receiver in McConkie was, you know,
11.1 PPR points or more in two of his last three.
The one he didn't is where Herbert threw 18 times.
So I'd like to...
I would not be afraid to start them in three receiver leagues
without question.
All right. We got some questions in the chat.
Quentin Johnston or Cedric Tillman?
Tillman.
Tillman.
Quentin Johnston or Romeo Dobbs?
I'll go Quentin.
I have Dobbs.
Would you start the Chargers guys over the Bills guys
or Hopkins?
Would you start the Chargers guys over the Bills guys or Hopkins? Shakir, if Cooper is out, then the Chargers guys. Chargers guys over the Bills guys if
Coleman.
I've got Hopkins over the Chargers.
Okay. And then Will Disley is someone that you could pivot to. The Bengals allow the fourth most fantasy points to tight ends.
42 yards or a touchdown to eight tight ends in their last six games.
That includes guys like Isaiah Likely, Charlie Kohler, Jordan Aikens, and Grant Calcutera.
So Disley's an okay option.
Chargers DST is borderline 12 for Jamie, 10th for Dave, 17th for Heath.
These could be outdated. Sorry, but let's just call,
I'll get you the updated rankings on the Chargers DST,
but let's just call them a borderline start.
They are 12th, 13th, and 17th, okay, for Jamie, Dave, Heath.
Our next game is Minnesota, Tennessee.
We're gonna go a little bit faster here.
Starters hit Sam Darnold.
Low end starter behind Herbert, behind Nix, behind Wilson.
Behind, yes, I think I have him one spot ahead of Herbert,
but agree on the other two.
Okay, and Jamie, talk about the running backs.
You said you're nervous about them.
I don't know if you said you were nervous
about Aaron Jones, but definitely Paul.
Not nervous about Aaron Jones.
I am nervous about Tony Pollard.
This Minnesota run defense has been
good. We saw Ty J Spears come back last week. Tony Pollard's numbers took a little bit of a hit,
obviously playing a tough defense as well. I think you just look at Jones. He's been a little
touchdown unlucky, and now he's facing a team that's just giving up touchdowns. You mentioned
it's a lot of passing touchdowns. It's also a lot of rushing touchdowns lately. So since week seven, one, two, three, four,
five, six rushing touchdowns to running backs. You know, so with the amount of work that
Aaron Jones typically gets, if he typically gets that, you know, we're talking about 20
total touches here. I like that against this defense.
And he also has had some tough matchups and he had 19 for 102 yards against Houston.
He had 14 for 93 and a touchdown against Detroit.
17 carries for 88 yards last week at Jacksonville.
It does have a good run defense.
So Jones has been a guy, unlike Dobbins, that's been efficient even with tough matchups.
Okay. But Pollard, and here's how
I worked with Pollard, because Dave mentioned this on Sunday, I'll just reiterate it. He was actually
really not dominating, but clearly ahead of Spears in touches for the first three quarters. But they
got behind big, playing catch up and Tajay Spears played, I don't know if he played every
snap or most snaps in the fourth quarter, but when they were playing from behind, it was all Tajay Spears.
So they're a competitive game.
Last week it was Pollard had a significant edge, just in terms of touches and snaps and
all that, certainly snaps.
So I just want to bring that up.
Heath, you have anything to add about the running backs in this game?
No, they're both number twos for me.
I do have Jones higher, but Pollard's kind of ahead of me for me that that group of
guys that I don't want to start. Like, I do feel a little bit
nervous about him, but I'm probably just starting him.
Justin Jefferson start Jordan Addison starter sit.
Sit. Yeah, I'd like to see him.
TJ Hawkinson. Is he a layup this week?
He's a top 10 tight end.
I'd start him over Ingram, I'd start him over Ferguson,
I'd start him over Pitts.
I would start him over Dawson Knox,
but I like the setup for him.
Look, you gotta expect a lot of targets
based on what we saw last week.
First game back, shake off the rust,
second game back, dominant,
looking like TJ Hawockenson again.
So this Titans defense has not been great
against Titans lately.
And hopefully Hockenson can continue to, you know,
build off what he did last week.
Minnesota's time of possession, the last two weeks,
36 minutes and 54 seconds, 42 minutes and 19 seconds.
They have run 71 and 82 plays,
and it has finally led to some pass attempts
from Sam Dardell, 34 and 38.
But they're still kind of a run heavy team.
Hawkinson has not played 50% of the snaps yet.
That we would like to see that get up,
but nine targets last week on like half,
you know, 48% of snaps or something.
That's pretty awesome.
Sit Will Levis, we talked about Pollard,
Spears, you know, is a flex. Calvin Ridley coming
off a big game. Start or sit Calvin Ridley against Minnesota, who gives up the third most fantasy
points to wide receivers. I'm starting him. I mean, I haven't said that very much this season,
but you know, you got the, you got the performance you needed to see, you know,
touchdown on the first drive, touchdown in garbage time. You could see something similar happening, you know, not, not counting on that, but you could see him being involved to see. You know, touchdown on the first drive, touchdown in garbage time.
You could see something similar happening, you know,
not counting on that,
but you could see him being involved early and, you know,
maybe Minnesota adjusts and then they're chasing points
and he's still going to get his chances.
The numbers bear it out that they're, you know,
giving up a lot of production to opposing wide receivers.
And the targets have remained constant for him.
Since Deandre Hopkins has been gone,
it's eight plus targets in every game.
Like that's hard to overlook.
Yeah, this is definitely one of those things like Dave was talking about, um,
on yesterday's show where like they have given up a lot of fantasy points to
wide receivers. Do we think they're a pad bad pass defense? Not at all.
So I think Ridley's a must start in the three wide receiver league.
He's an okay start in a two wide receiver league. I think there's a correlation probably. The last two weeks that we've seen the
Vikings finally run a bunch of plays, we've seen wide receiver production against them fall off a
cliff because teams aren't throwing the ball 40 times against them because the Vikings have the
ball. So they have a hard time believing that Will Levis
is going to be throwing 35 to 40 pass attempts. He's going to need one big play, but he makes
a lot of big plays.
Start Ridley or Lam? Question from Lance here.
Oh, Lam, for sure.
And question for me, start Ridley or London?
I would actually start Ridley over Lam.
Okay. Ridley or London?
Ridley.
Man, this is, I think the fourth time that we've answered this question. Oh yeah, you're right. You're Okay. Ridley or London? Ridley. Man, this is, I think the fourth time
that we've answered this question.
Oh yeah, you're right. You're right.
Ridley or Najee Harris?
Ridley.
Ridley.
Okay. Looking for some more questions here in the chat.
And don't see any for this game.
Sit Chigokankwo and sit Nick Westbrook at Kene and
Start the Vikings DST their top two Baltimore's at Pittsburgh in the last 10 meetings. I going back
I looked at last 10 means there were some high-scoring games
but in seven straight games between Baltimore and Pittsburgh
No team has scored more than 20 points and no team has scored more than 17 in five straight games
Does this game get a little loose? The over under is 48.
So what do we think that we get some points in this game or is this going to be
a Baltimore Pittsburgh struggle struggle Rama?
I think we'll get some points. You know, I,
I like that Dave is banking on the theory of, you know, these two teams,
just go back to what has typically been the, uh, the rivalry here. And, you know,
you can argue it's, it's the it's the best rivalry in football since Mike Tomlin and
Harbaugh have been there.
But it's hard to expect that with what Lamar Jackson is doing and
how that Steelers defense may or may not perform.
It's hard to expect the Ravens defense to hold up from a past perspective, past defense perspective, given how poorly they've looked all season.
And especially if Kyle Hamilton doesn't play. So I don't know. I mean,
I'm going to trust Russell Wilson based on the small sample size as a low end
starter. I don't want to buy into him fully.
So I'm not going to get crazy with who I'm starting him over, but you know,
24 plus points in two or three games and against this defense. Why not?
George Pickens is a must start receiver. I think he's said it best you know you want to
avoid Najee Harris if you can and Jalen Warren it's it's funny like I don't think anybody's
going to rank Najee Harris uh rank Jalen Warren ahead of Najee Harris because we haven't seen like
a big spike in the passing game but this feels like a game where he's going to have a better
opportunity to have success than the Najee does so mean, yeah, I would rather look at
what's happening this season as opposed to historically.
I hate to step on your toes, Adam,
but you messed up the stat of the game.
Oh, what is it?
I didn't even give the stat of the game.
The stat of the game, Russell Wilson has played
three games for the Steelers this year
and thrown in six touchdown passes.
Kenny Pickett led the Steelers last year
with six touchdown passes. I did read that in your column.
Like the last seven games between these two teams, who's been playing quarterback for the Steelers?
It's been an awful quarterback or the ghost of Ben Roethlisberger.
Yeah, and four of the last six quarterbacks to face the Ravens have thrown for 334 or more yards.
That's insane. The Ravens give up the most big plays.
Russell Wilson has the highest a dot since becoming the starter. I think only Anthony
Ridge. I don't know. Maybe there's one guy, but he basically he throws the ball downfield
a ton. He's making big plays. It's a good match up for him. And you said, you know,
Dave, Dave brought up the possibility that this is a low scoring game. But yeah, I mean,
he's not, he has Russell Wilson 11th. You guys have Russell Wilson 11th or 10th. He has George Pickens top five.
So, Wilson, if any Wilson questions.
Yeah, Wilson or Daniels, we're going Jane Daniels there.
Wilson or Darnold?
Russ, Wilson.
Flowers or Ridley?
Ridley.
Flowers.
Yeah, any hesitation?
Oh, I'm sorry, Flowers, excuse me.
Lamar Jackson, yes.
For some reason, I was thinking Pickens
when you said Ridley. Oh, okay. Lamar Flowers. Excuse me. Lamar Jackson.
Yeah.
For some reason, I was thinking Pickens when you said Ridley.
Okay.
Lamar Jackson, George Pickens, Derek Henry, a piece of cake starts.
Zay Flowers.
That was my follow up.
Go right back to him.
Yes.
Okay.
Mark Andrews.
He's a must start guy for me.
If likely is out, he's still a start for me if likely isn't.
Yeah. I mean, you can't you can't ignore the production he's had for like the last five
games four of the last five have been really good he only needs five targets he's good
uh and then any interest in like Deontay Johnson Rashad Bateman Mike will any secondary receivers
I mean if you're desperate I would lean toward, you know, just based on his body of work.
But, you know, three games now with the two games now with Deontay Johnson on the field, one good, one bad for Bateman.
The game before that was the Sun game in Cleveland where he had the drop.
The tough call, I think, for me is isriar Muth, you know, just because of
how bad this secondary is, he just hasn't getting target hasn't been getting targets, you know, with Russ.
And so you don't want to chase the touchdown, but I think if you're going
to, you know, hype up Das Knox, you gotta, you know, put Pat Friar Muth somewhat
similar because they probably both need touchdowns to be successful.
We joked about it with Arthur Smith at the beginning of the year.
And he's kind of done
it like Darnell Washington got in Pat Fryer Muthway.
And I really hate it, but let me pull it up here.
I think over the last month, they both have a 10% target share.
And here's one other factor though, that's a positive for all these guys, you know, for
Pickens, what, and not that you need it.
Russell Wilson has thrown 28, 29 pass attempts in all three games.
This is just like the Justin Herbert thing, right?
But you got a game where they may not be able to run the ball at all efficiently against
the Ravens.
So is it, can we get 35 pass attempts from Russell
Wilson? That would help. What's 10% of 35. Yeah, I know, but I'll take three and a half targets.
No, you won't. No, I won't. I won't. But, but just there's, there's opportunity, I think,
for more pass attempts for Russell Wilson. Steelers DST is a sit this week. Yeah, self-explanatory. All right, should we save the
Dolphins Raiders for tomorrow? Or you want to just knock it out here? Knock it out. All right, who do
you trust on the Dolphins? It's almost tomorrow anyway, so let's just keep going. Yeah, who do
you trust on the Dolphins? HN. I'm still starting Tyree Kill, but trust is a tough word right now. Tyree Hill or Zay Flowers?
Flowers.
Well, what do you not like about Tua?
Is he in top 12 for you?
Just outside.
Good matchup against the Raiders, but you know, it's not like they're giving up 25 plus
points per game.
It's more like 22, 21 to three of the last four quarterbacks.
So low end starter.
What I don't like about Tua is his intended air yards per pass attempt,
5.8 yards, the lowest of his career.
It's pathetic.
The one thing though, just to go back to this and the, the, it's the hard
argument because of the, the Rams game.
Arizona's defense is good.
That was his first game.
Buffalo's defense is good.
That was his second game. Back to back is good. That was his second game.
Back to back road games.
They're terrible in prime time.
To me, this is the game that I'm looking at.
If they do not play better offensively, it's a nightmare moving forward.
If they come out and play well this game, then it's like, okay, I'll buy back in.
Did the league figure Mike McDaniel out? So I right before we
did the show I do a podcast for Jonathan Zaslow who's a local guy in
South Florida and we talk a lot of dolphins understandably so that's
exactly what it feels like. It just it feels as if they've taken away
everything down the field and why are there not four or five targets just specifically
to each wide receiver behind the line of scrimmage,
near the line of scrimmage.
It felt like that was the case in the start of the game
with Jalen Waddle last week and then completely went
like 54 yards receiving to open the game,
55 receiving yards is what he finished with.
Like why are you not giving these guys consistently
10 plus targets?
I have a take.
I watched the, I went back and watched
and Tua is getting the ball out of his hand very quickly.
One of the quickest in football, which isn't a huge surprise, but I think their offensive line
stinks. And I think that he, like last week, every time there was pressure, pretty much he
went down. It's kind of like what I said about Aaron Rodgers. I think he just doesn't have time
to let these plays develop. And he's relying so much on Devon H. and he's, you mentioned 5.8
intended area yards for pass attempts. It's 5.1 since he's come back from the injury. That's
unbelievable. It's pathetic. It's ridiculous. So I think like it's just one man's opinion,
but based on what I saw on the Rams game, that Rams have, they get after you. They have a really
good defensive line. But like this guy, he doesn't have time to let plays develop. When he tried,
he kept getting sacked. So he just gets rid of the ball really quickly. And I have gone from this
being one of my favorite offenses to watch to this being one of my least favorite offenses to watch.
It drives me crazy to see this team with all this talent, just throw it like I love HN,
but he shouldn't be getting the ball eight. He shouldn't be catching eight passes a game. It's ridiculous.
To that point, he had is tied for the lowest amount of time in the pocket with last year.
He has his lowest career pressure rate, but his second highest career sack rate.
Oh, that's interesting. Right. And the pressure rates low because he's getting rid of the
ball so quickly. The problem with my theory is what you said. He also got rid of the ball so quickly last year
and Tyreek Hill was incredible. Why isn't it happening this year? I don't know.
Anyway, to the to the Raiders here, Start Bowers, we like Jacobi Myers quite a bit.
He's our favorite. He's our favorite receiver in this game, right? Yeah, we established that.
Would you start a running back?
Madison or Zameer white.
I'm curious to see what's going to happen because you know, you go into a bi-week with a coordinator change and it's not like Madison has
been dominant. You know, he's had a couple of good games,
but you wonder if they go back to Zameer white who had the groin injury and
missed time.
And is he going to be the workhorse that we thought going into the season, at least in this matchup.
So I want to roster Zameer White if I have an ability to stash somebody on my team because
he's available in well over 50% of leagues.
But I'm not starting anybody here.
I mean, Madison would be the closest if you're going to start somebody as a flex just because
work in the passing game should be there for him and the ability to still get some either goal line chances or fourth quarter work.
You know, it's a lot, a lot of ways where Madison can be involved as we saw earlier
in the season, but I would like to, I'd like to read something.
You know, I, I hope someone will ask, you know, what the situation is there or somebody
to report it, but I don't want to trust it if I don't have to.
Yep.
30% roster.
It's Amir white, not a bad player to stash
if you're desperate for running back help.
And John U Smith is like a mid range number two,
15, 16th-ish in the rankings.
And I already said Starbrock Bowers,
Dolphins DST is in play this week.
You can start them, we like them this week.
All right, that is it for Fantasy Football today.
This is your AFC home games.
We'll give you the NFC home games tomorrow.
And we'll recap what's hopefully going to be a really exciting Thursday night.
We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football.