Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Ja'Marr Chase, Zack Moss, Najee Harris and More! (11/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Get ready for Week 13! We've got the AFC home games to discuss and we start with the players we love (2:30) and players we're avoiding (5:05). It's Zack Moss SZN, and Najee Harris could be in for a great week too! But try to avoid Joe Mixon if you can. Plus, news and notes (10:10) including key defensive injuries that could impact your Fantasy matchups ... One Question for Each Game (18:50)! Are we starting Devin Singletary this week? DeAndre Hopkins? Are we getting concerned about Austin Ekeler or Breece Hall? ... Start or Sit for Broncos-Texans (27:30), Cardinals-Steelers (37:50), Colts-Titans (50:00), Bengals-Jaguars (57:15), Chargers-Patriots (1:05:00) and Falcons-Jets (1:10:30) ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We are getting started with Start or Sit for Fantasy Week 13. We have the Cowboys and the Seahawks tonight. We talked about that game yesterday, but plenty of good games to discuss today. Actually, a really exciting slate. Denver and Houston, which is going to win out there? That Denver defense that's held seven straight quarterbacks to fewer than 20 fantasy points? Or that Houston offense led by C.J. Stroud?

Arizona at Pittsburgh, Indianapolis at Tennessee. We'll tell you why this, well, I don't know if we all agree, but I'll make the case why this should be a good Derrick Henry game. Cincinnati at Jacksonville, the Chargers are at New England, and Atlanta is at the Jets. Tim Boyle back at the helm there. What does that mean for Brees Hall, who's averaged 2.6 yards per carry in his last six games?

Did I just get the worst games of the week all on Thursday today? What do you mean? Fantastic. Well, first of all, just so everyone knows, today's episode is presented by Salesforce. Thank you, Salesforce. You've got Denver-Houston.

That's a marquee game. That's a big game. Yeah, okay. You've got the Bengals, Super Bowl contender Bengals. Two teams that are going to be fighting to hope to get into the wild card. Denver, you've got the hottest team in football, Denver at Houston. Arizona at Pittsburgh, right? I mean, it's obviously slim pickings.

We don't have that many games. I know. Well, what's the NFC slate looking like? You got that Eagles game. Yeah, you got the Lions Saints. It's not that good. Dolphins Washington. Oh, you got Kansas City Green Bay, too.

You can come on tomorrow. You can come on tomorrow. Wait, what about Cincinnati Jacksonville? That's today. Okay, so that'll be a good one. The bagels are great. Terrible. Alright, let's start

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and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. Players we love, Jamie. Who do we got? Who's our start of the week? Well, just like we all expected, Najee Harris is the start of the week. Clearly, it's a great matchup. The Cardinals have allowed a running back to score at least 12.7 PPR points in every game this season.

So if that's the floor, he's going to be okay. But as we've seen from Najee, 15.6 PPR points or more in four of his last six games so he's been doing a good job from a production standpoint uh of late and I think last week you know there there clearly was some changes in the offense but you still got 15 carries out of him and I think there's room for both Najee and Jalen Warren to be successful this week I give the slight edge to Najee because I think we'll get more of those high-level touches, especially near the goal line. But we saw last week both Kyron Williams and Royce Freeman take advantage of this Cardinals defense, and I think both Najee and Jalen Warren will as well.

So Najee's 15th for me, so top 15 caliber running back. Warren's a top 20 guy. I like both, but Najee's going to be our start of the week for week 13. I think he's averaged 4.3 or better in four of his last five games, or three of his last four games against Tennessee, Green Bay, and Cincinnati.

I say it every week, all but one game this year, running back is 100 yards or a touchdown against the Cardinals. It is Najee Harris' turn. Heath, who do you love? I'll take the free space. It is Najee Harris's turn. Heath, who do you love? I'll take the free space. It's Zach Moss.

Averaged 20.9 fantasy points per game in four games earlier this season without Jonathan Taylor, including by far his best game of the season when he ran for 165 yards and two scores against this Titans defense at 195 total yards in that game. He is my number two running back in all formats this week. Well, that's the scary part is starting him over everyone, but McCaffrey, um,

Tennessee has been a lot better, 2.7 yards per carry by from running backs in the last three games, but you don't care. You just, I do not care. Okay. Well, I think everybody has him top 12.

So it's not like I'm being outlandish by saying he's a must-start running back. I just got it, right? Oh, everybody's got him. Actually, Dave has him 15th. Jamie has him 7th. Oh, okay. So there's some disagreement. Yeah, actually, that surprised me.

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trying to avoid this week. Jamie, you can go first. I am trying to avoid, let's see, what position should we go to? I'm trying to avoid Joe Mixon. He was not good last week in the first game without Joe Burrow. And this Jaguars run defense has been much better of late. I think we'll see them key in on stopping Burrow. But eight total touches, excuse me, ten total touches, eight carries.

Not exactly what you're looking for from Mixon. You thought maybe they'd lean on him a little bit more. He got kind of saved with the 44 receiving yards last week against Pittsburgh. And so maybe they get a little bit more creative and throw the ball to him a little bit more. But I think Mixon's in a little bit of trouble, not just this week,

but clearly moving forward. So if you can get away from Mixon, this is a good week to do so. Zach Moss or Joe Mixon, Heath. It's going to be, it's going to be Zach. It may take three of

joe mixon to get to zach moss this week uh who are you uh trying to avoid so joe mixon was 100 going to be my answer i'm gonna i'm gonna go oh that's okay a little bit more uh generally when we say these guys they're guys that are ranked outside of our top 24 but i see james got mixing at 24 so i'm gonna say cooper cup uh he's just inside my top 24 wide receivers because there are six teams on a buy and some really good wide receivers missing, but he's basically had two good games all season. And they were his first two games back. He's not healthy at all right now.

And I think this is probably a low scoring, ugly game with the Browns. There are lots of wide receivers who were either picked up on the waiver wire or drafted much later than Cooper cup that I would start over him, with the Browns. There are lots of wide receivers who were either picked up on the waiver wire or drafted much later than Cooper Cup that I would start over him, including Pukunakua, Tank Dell if he goes. I'm just going back to Adam Thielen

over Cooper Cup, Cortland Sutton, both Christian Kirk and Calvin Ridley. The one that I really am struggling with is Jaden Reed. And I'm tempted. Okay. Is Jaden Reed your highest-ranked Packers receiver? Yes.

So how much, you know, we'll have a better sense when we do the show tomorrow, but how much will the Browns' injuries factor into your Cooper Cup ranking? So far, one practice, no Miles Garrett, no Denzel Ward, no Juan Thornhill, one of their safeties. How much is that going to factor into Cup and Neku, I guess? Very little. Like maybe that causes the over-under to go up a little bit and so the touchdown odds go up a little bit.

This is not so much that I'm avoiding Cooper Cup because I think that Brown's defense is so good. It's because he's not healthy and it's because the Browns' offense is so bad that it would be very easy for the Rams to go run heavy in this game. Okay. So if you want, you know, Heath just made a reference to the line potentially moving based on injuries. Well, we can help you out with that because we've got a show

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with data and analysis that you can't find anywhere else at youtube.com slash sportsline. Let's go to our news and notes here. Can I do one thing real quick? Because there was somebody said something in the comments, and I think Jamie and I both agree with it. Somebody said, I have to start Cup and Mixon. Nobody else worth it on waivers.

That's 100% true. Like, we are trying to avoid those guys if we have somebody on their bench, but there's nobody I could have picked up on waivers that I'm starting over either one of those guys well i i i agree but i don't necessarily think that's a blanket statement because you said yesterday or i think you were saying making reference to who you dropped zach moss for but like there are people that are picking up zach moss okay yes agreed in some 10 team leagues you're starting him over mixin um you you made reference to jayden reed that might be somebody but i know like in one 10 team like you're starting him over mixin um you you made reference to jayden reed that

might be somebody but i know like in one 10 team like i saw last night rashi reza rice was available i'm starting him over cup this week so you know there are some some situations where you could be would you guys start josh downs over cup they're back to back for me right now i have cups still one spot over downs i i think that that the thing you brought it up adam the injuries are going to play a big part of this you know so um and it makes me feel as if i don't think cup's going to have a vintage cooper cup game because it looked really like he was gimping around the field last week and so i don't know how much that ankle is a problem clearly the rams think it's okay because they're not listing him on the injury report at least as far as i saw he certainly was not listed on the final injury report last week.

So, but I don't think he's a hundred percent. And so, like he said, he's got two good games. The last four games or five games, there's been now factoring in Matthew Stafford, missing some time.

There have just been awful. But could he have a 40 yard, two touchdown game against a Browns defense face without miles, Garrett, Denzel Ward, and Thornhill? Absolutely. That defense is not going to be the same without those guys. Yeah, right. We'll keep an eye on the injury report, obviously. The Wednesday injury report, we don't put too much stock into it. A lot of guys sit the Thursday injury report a little

bit more stock into that. And speaking of the injury report, here we go. Aaron Rodgers was limited in practice. He... You just say that every day from now at this point forward. Yeah. Amazing that he's back. He's got 21 days to be activated. He's already said if they're out of contention that he's not going to come back. We'll see. But he could come back to face Washington in week 16, which would be really fun just from a fantasy discussion standpoint. All right. Stop there. Both of you. You need a quarterback week 16. It's his first game.

Washington has been as bad as they have been all this time up to that point. Would you start him? No. I think he'd be a better streaming option than Gardner Minchie this week. And Gardner Minchie's my favorite streaming option, so I might. Gotcha.

Okay, would you start him, let's see, CJ Stroud that week gets the Cleveland Browns. Would you start Aaron Rodgers against the Commanders or Stroud against the Browns? Stroud. Stroud. Did he just say the last couple of days

that he's not going to come back if they're out of contention? Yeah, he said it on the Pat McAfee show. Okay. I missed that. He didn't say that. I know Glazer had said that he was considering coming back even if they were. Yeah, he did say that. But then Roger said that the record would have a lot to do with it.

Maybe I put it in too strong of definitive terms, but he certainly hinted that he was not going to come back just to come back. I would guess if he feels good and moving around in practice, no issues. Like you said all the time, he's a football player. He wants to play. He did say that. There could be some real benefit.

They're going to run mostly back with this team next year probably, so get a couple games in with these guys. That would be helpful yeah i'm trying to talk him into it because my breeze hall garrett wilson teams unless you just don't want him to get hurt again right okay let me let me get to the rest of these stupid news items here kenny pickett he's practicing in full he's fine joe flacco could start this week in fact he probably looks like the favorite to start this week is dorian thompson

robinson is the starter but he's in the concussion protocol. If Thompson-Robinson clears concussion protocol, it seems they'll go back to him. But if not, Joe Flacco will be the starter at the Rams. Yeah. The Patriots have not announced the quarterback, but it looks like Bailey Zappi is running with the starters right now.

So that's the best bet at the moment. Update on Jonathan Taylor is there's really no update. No timetable for his return. They're not putting him on IR yet. Two to three weeks is what we heard, potentially, and Trey Sermon will be the number two running back behind Zach Moss. I had to make a bad ad drop. I dropped Jonathan Taylor for Alvin Kamara.

What? My guillotine leak. Ken Walker is doubtful. Devon Achan was limited. Raheem Mostert mispracticed, but that's pretty typical on Wednesdays. But Achan limited, that's a good sign. AJ Dillon mispracticed, but he should be fine. But Aaron Jones still missing practice.

They have a marquee Sunday night game against the Chiefs. Ezekiel Elliott has a thigh issue. I'm not sure how serious that is. Who's going to miss time with a thigh issue, right? Come on. Brees Hall, hamstring issue. We expect him to play. Cincinnati says they want to get Chase Brown, rookie running back Chase Brown, more

involved. And Kareem Hunt missed practice, but that's been, I think, somewhat typical for him early in the weeks. Wide receiver news. Josh Palmer, if you're waiting for him to come back, I don't been, I think, somewhat typical for him early in the weeks. Wide receiver news. Josh Palmer, if you're waiting for him to come back, I don't know that I'd hold your breath. Brandon Staley says it's possible he'll return this season, but

I would certainly think that would mean there's no chance he's coming back this week. Kadarius Toney practiced in full. Tank Dell mispracticed with a groin injury. Groin or calf? I thought it was a calf oh sorry calf injury then Noah Brown was limited so I think Dell is expected to be okay

Noah Brown getting back in the picture that's interesting um Quentin Johnston practiced in full Keenan Allen was out with a quad injury Marquise Brown and Michael Wilson mispracticed Jaden Reed mispracticed. The ones that matter. Demario

Douglas. Jerry Judy mispracticed, but Sean Payton said he expects him to play. Chris Olave was limited. That's a good sign. Rashid Shaheed mispracticed. Somebody asked me if they should start Tyler Lockett or Chris Olave

with terrible waiver wire options. I think that's a tough call, but if he practices again today, which he probably will if he was limited yesterday, I feel like I would gamble on Olave. Do they have the ability to make a waiver claim without dropping Lockett? Yeah, I think so, but it was really like garbage options. Well, I mean, I would assume at worst case scenario, Keith Kirkwood is available.

And so if there's no Shaquid and there's no olave obviously i would prefer at perry but kirkwood's gonna play so desperation all right uh and tyree kill mispractice but that's probably nothing dallas goddard mispractice he's trying to play this week did not practice wednesday trey mcBride mispracticed with a groin injury. That's one to probably keep an eye on, but I don't remember him leaving the game. Dalton Schultz mispracticed. He should be okay. Greg Dulcich on IR. He worked on the side this week.

They are at Houston this week. On the offensive line. Just real quick on Tank. That was a calf. I don't know at what point we made this switch to correct it, but in our database, he is now officially tanked. I saw that. Good.

Thank goodness. Big news. Offensive line. Lane Johnson expects to play. Teron Armstead was limited. He's supposed to be week to week. He got in a limited session. Detroit guard Jonah Jackson

was limited in practice. He missed last week's game. Colt center Ryan Kelly practiced in full. He missed last week's game. Colts center Ryan Kelly practiced in full. He missed last week's game. Cleveland right guard Wyatt Teller missed practice. Houston left guard Titus Howard is out for the season. Big defensive news.

Linebacker Nick Bolton for the Chiefs. He can be activated off IR anytime in the next three weeks. He's back at practice. Fletcher Cox and Zach Cunningham missed practice for the Eagles. I expect Cox to play. He came back at practice. Fletcher Cox and Zach Cunningham missed practice for the Eagles. I expect Cox to play. He came back in the game last week. Minka Fitzpatrick looks like he's going to come back for the Steelers this week.

Bad news for Kyler. The Saints are really beat up. Really beat up. We know Lattimore's out. Marcus May and Cameron Jordan both missed practice. So that would really change the matchup for the Lions. I told you about the Cleveland Browns injuries, but here's a big one. Jimmy Ward.

He mispracticed again. He starts the week with a mispractice for the Texans. Starting safety for the Texans. They have been much worse the last three games against the pass without Jimmy Ward. So, we'll keep an eye on that one. And Blake Grupe. You got to be cautious with Blake Grupe. He's on the injury report.

You see these situations where a kicker goes, gets hurt. You know, I'm nervous about it. I'm probably trying to get away from Blake Grupe, even though he's really good. We'll see if he practices in full. You can take that one up to Sunday, but keep an eye on that. The boring injury updates are over.

Hopefully helpful for you. We'll be right back with one question for each game after this. If you're watching on YouTube, you just saw CBS Sports HQ promo. If you're listening, then you didn't see it and or hear it, but you should be watching CBS Sports HQ. It's really tremendous. Everybody does such a great job. And constant 24-7 sports updates, highlights, the way that we grew up watching sports highlight shows, the way to really learn about sports, not just the two or three major storylines that get the talking heads talk about all day. So watch CBS Sports HQ. It's free and it's always on and it's on the CBS Sports app. You can watch it on your smartphone,

on your phone, on your TV, whatever, your Roku, Apple TV, whatever it is. All right, one question for each game. Denver's at Houston. Start or sit Devin Singletary in this beautiful matchup? I think given the week

and the matchup and the workload that he's getting, I dare say he's a must-start guy. Yeah, he's a number two running back. I think he's right in that Steelers running back range. I believe I've got him at RB20. 82% of the snaps last week. I know he only had six carries, but they barely ran the ball.

But he had six catches against the Jaguars and the Broncos. In addition to giving up the most points to running backs, 5.78 yards per carry to running backs. They also give up the seventh most receiving yards per game to running backs. Arizona's at Pittsburgh. Do you like any wide receivers in this game? No.

Like? Yeah, I like. No. Like. Yeah, like. Love? No. I don't like them. Deontay, Marquise Brown, and Pickens are all between, I think, 26 and 36 for me. Yeah, Dortch is in that range too for me. If not Mike Olsen. I feel like Deontay needs to make a statement.

Rough week for him. Steelers are going to make a statement, one of the two. They all seem to be supporting him for his lack of effort, which is good. All right, would you start Devin Singletary in full PPR over any of those wide receivers in the Arizona-Pittsburgh game? 100%. Would you start Joe Mixon over them?

I would start Deontay over Joe Mixon in PPR. I would too. He's the only one. Alright, Indianapolis is at Tennessee. See, Heath, another great game. Yeah. A playoff team. A playoff team right now in the Colts going to the Titans where the Titans are

undefeated at home this year. Josh Downs or DeAndre Hopkins? Downs in PPR. They are very, very close for me. I have Downs one spot ahead of Hopkins. So, yes, I agree wholeheartedly with Jamie. It's Downs. They both had good games against each other.

Did they? Okay. Yes. Cincinnati is at Jacksonville. Who's the best wide receiver in this game? Calvin Ridley. I think I have Christian Kirk ranked higher, but it's – no, Jamar Chase. Have you seen Ridley's numbers with Zay jumps?

Yeah, yeah. They're really big. I'm nervous about the Trevor Lawrence pass attempts in this game. He typically doesn't throw that much in wins. He did last week. But, you know,

you know what I'm saying. They could really run away with this game. I don't know that they will. What's the spread? Eight and a half. That's a big spread. Alright. Wait, so Jamie's answer was Ridley. Sorry, Heath, who's the best wide receiver in this game? I said Chase.

Chase, okay. They're very, very close, though. By the way, I watched all of Chase. By definition, Chase is the best wide receiver in this game. I watched all of Chase's routes against the Steelers. Joey Porter shadowed him. I mean, not every single play, because obviously they played some zone. But this is really amazing what the Steelers are doing with this rookie cornerback,

having him shadow the toughest receivers in football. Chargers are at the Patriots. Is anyone getting concerned about Austin Eckler? Single-digit PPR points in two straight games, 3.2 yards per carry since returning from his high ankle sprain? A little bit, yeah. I mean, this is a struggling offense right now. It's not just him. It's really everybody but Keenan Allen.

So to the point of benching Austin Eckler? No way. But if you have a situation where Zach Moss and Eckler and somebody else, I would play Moss over Eckler. I'd play Moss, Mostert, and Kyron over him. So that's three guys that you could easily have with him. I'm not there with Mostert, but Kyron and Moss, yes. Heath, would you play Mostert over Eckler if A-Chan plays? No. Okay.

Chargers are, oh, sorry. The Falcons are at the Jets. How much faith do you have in Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson? If this were not six teams on a bye, Brees Hall would probably be in the 20s for me. He's in the mid-teens. And Wilson is kind of, I think i said this on sunday he just kind of i'm gonna say he's a set it and forget it type of guy but he's kind of that as a

number two wide receiver in ppr yeah i'm starting both of these guys adam i have one question about your injury report oh what i do you downplayed the thigh injury said nobody would miss with the thigh injury i just want to ask you if you could name two muscle groups that are a part of the thigh. Two muscle groups that are part of the thigh? Two muscles that are part of the thigh. In the thigh? Like the quad? The quad would be one.

Yes, that's the major one. What's the other major one? The latibus dorsi. The hamstring. Oh, yes. That's the major one. What's the other major one? The latimus dorsi. The hamstring. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know it. So a lot of people miss games with thigh injuries. It's never listed as thigh.

He probably got a dead leg. He's fine. Tim Boyle, by the way, 4.3 air yards per pass attempt against the Dolphins, and he even said his game plan was to just get rid of the ball. So that did benefit Brees Hall in that sense. Hall had seven catches last week. For a whopping 24 yards. Yeah, I know, I know.

He scored 11.9 fantasy points. I mean, that's the last game we're talking about. So I'll just tell you right now, Brees Hall in his last six games, I already mentioned this, he's the last game we're talking about. So I'll just tell you right now, Brees Hall in his last six games, I already mentioned this, he's averaging 2.6 yards per carry and he's the number 11 running back per game in full PPR in that stretch. So that's something

I was looking at the other day because somebody asked me about my Brees Hall ranking and I was pretty high on him. But if a guy is averaging 2.6 yards per carry over his last six games and still somehow averaging 4.6 yards per carry for the season and 5.1 yards per carry for his career, what would you say, Adam?

Oh, no, I'm surprised that he's averaging that much for the season. It just shows how many big plays he had early in the year and how many big plays he had last year and he hasn't hit one for a few weeks but i don't like he's not going to be consistently picking up three to five yards for sure but he could still go for 80 at any point that that's very true this is also you know we're 12 weeks into the season 13 weeks in the season 12 12 weeks worth of info that the falcons have yet to allow running back to score a touchdown. So on a bad team, when you're looking at the way he's been running, like there's not a lot to love about Brees Hall this week. Yeah, they haven't allowed a touchdown to a running back, a rushing touchdown to a running back to Falcons.

However, it's very clear when you look at their game log, their last four games, their run defense is worse, considerably worse without Grady Jarrett. Oh, yeah. We'll see. It'll be interesting. We'll move on after this. But when you look at Brees Hall's season, if he continues to struggle, what's the ACL argument going to be? Because it doesn't really make any sense.

He was making all these big plays early in the year, week one, remember, against the Bills. But now later in the year he's struggling. I don't know if the ACL has anything to do with it or if it's just coincidence. No, but I reference this at the beginning of the season. I think going back to, I forget which

player, so which year it was with the ACL, almost all their numbers were down. And I wonder how much you could break down each individual player of this situation was injury related versus this situation was team related versus this situation was tough matchups throughout the course of season you know as you reference with a few players not necessarily to this but like you're talking about Rashad White for example how many tough matchups yet you know

so how many scenarios like unfolded like that but it's not it has not been tough matchups for him that's what I'm saying like you know there. There's clearly a lot of singling out players in this regard. Did Adrian Peterson just have the easiest of matchups in the season that he came back from his ACL and everything just fell into place? His offensive line was healthy. His quarterback play was healthy. Look at everything Brees Hall is working against. Oh, yeah, yeah.

All right. Well, let's talk about a good game here. Denver and Houston. Also, I just looked up where the Latimus Dorsi is. Definitely not in the thigh. Denver and Houston. Heath is like not, I don't think Heath really buys this as a good game.

I mean, it's fine, but we're selling it as a good game. It's two teams that are currently not in the playoffs. That's true, but Denver's the hottest team in the NFL. So they have... They are. I mean, they're beating good teams. What did they win, six in a row? Five in a row.

All right. So generally speaking... I think he still has a little bit of resentment toward the Broncos, maybe, for holding. I have been the biggest Russell Wilson cheerleader this season. I would love to see that, by the way. Me in a cheerleader costume cheering for Russell Wilson? R-U-S-S.

Anyway, which unit do you think wins here? The Houston offense or the Denver defense? I'm going to trust the Houston offense. I'm certainly not benching any of their top players. I think we're starting to get a group of four that are relatively safe

certainly this week. So Stroud, I mean look, Keith said Gardner-Minchu as a streamer. No chance you're starting Gardner-Minchu over Stroud. So if you had Stroud and somebody else, like I have a league where I have Trevor Lawrence and CJ Stroud. I like Lawrence slightly better, so I'm going to play him over Stroud this week.

Purdy I like a little bit better than Stroud this week. But I think you just kind of stick with what he's been able to do. He's been awesome at home, so that's something to factor into. You know, he's been very good in his own building. And then you look at Tank Dell as long as he's healthy, Nico Collins as long as he's healthy. You know, I don't worry about Noah Brown coming back

because we saw what those two guys were capable of doing before Noah Brown's little two-game breakout performance when Nico was out. So you're starting those two guys. You're most likely starting Schultz. I guess there's five. And at this point, you're starting those two guys. You're most likely starting Schultz. I guess there's five. And at this point, you're starting Devin Singletary. So as good as this Broncos defense has been

of late in various degrees, mostly against opposing quarterbacks, there's still a lot to love about what the situation is for CJ Stroup. So I don't think that this is a team to run away from based on this defense. Okay.

So are you ranking your Texans a team to run away from based on this defense. Okay. So, are you ranking your Texans, especially the wide receivers, Dell and Nico, as if the matchup doesn't really matter? Or did you downgrade them? Yes. Yeah. Okay.

It's pretty risky. They're both top 12. Let me see who's behind them. It's not... Jamar Chase, Cooper Cup. I get it. You know, they've been amazing. Just, man, the Broncos are so good.

Here are some of the receivers. Devontae Adams, Garrett Wilson, Stephon Diggs, Jordan Addison, Amari Cooper with Dorian Thompson-Robinson. 66 or fewer yards, no touchdowns for any of them. They're just so good. But I don't really know what to say here. They are that good.

I understand you have to start the Texans because the Texans have been that good on offense, especially Tank Dell. So that's cool. And there's six teams on a bye. There's just not that many people we're actually going to say to sit this week. So you like the Texans receivers better than the top two anyway, better than the Jaguars receivers?

I do. I currently have Nico one spot ahead of Ridley. I may switch that, and Ridley may move ahead of Nico. But other than that, Tank Dell to me is almost an automatic at this point, even if he struggles, like I'm not gonna really panic so much. And just looking at it, the recent performances for the Broncos,

it's really one combination of great quarterback and great wide receiver that they've shut down. Well, it's seven weeks in a row where a quarterback is not, six or seven, where a quarterback has not scored 20 fantasy points. But I'm just looking at the, yes, they've done well against quarterbacks, no doubt about it, so not to take anything away, but I'm talking about the receivers.

Because really, you know, you go from week five on, that's the Jets, no quarterback there. That's the Chiefs, no receiver there. That's the Packers. You know what those guys have been and they did get two touchdowns from their young guys in read and doubt and dobbs the chiefs again no receiver this is the one i think that if you want to say that you could point to good quarterback good receiver is josh allen and stefan diggs then it's jordan addison i don't know if he qualifies yet with Dobbs. And then you mentioned it, Cooper, and their quarterback situation.

They haven't faced something like this. Great quarterback, great receiver, consistently. No. A few teams do, I guess, but fair point. Stephon Diggs had three catches for 34 yards. Alright, so you guys are in on the Texans. What about Dalton Schultz, though? The Broncos do give up the most

fantasy points to tight ends, I believe. They've allowed 50 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in 8 of 11 games. We've got Schultz, who has three targets in his last two games. Low end starter. Yeah. I mean, if this was prior to last week, where he was just completely irrelevant, even with just the poor game against the Cardinals where he scored a touchdown i think we probably would look at him maybe as a top five guy right yeah just knowing the matchup yeah um plus like i said we haven't i don't know if no brown's

going to play this week but we have not seen dalton schultz in the last two months basically with everyone healthy someone has missed or has gotten hurt in every game for the last i think eight weeks so uh that's been the good stretch for Schultz. Was last week the first game without Kareem Jackson, too? At least, all right. I don't know. No, Kareem Jackson's missed plenty of games this year. No, no, no.

I'm saying in this recent stretch. In the current suspension? I think so, yeah. Dalton Schultz or Jake Ferguson tonight? Schultz. Schultz or Jake Ferguson tonight? Schultz. Schultz. All right, if anybody has any questions, fire away. How about this one?

Charbonnet or Singletary? We're going to get to the Broncos in a minute, sorry. Charbonnet or Singletary? Singletary easily for me. I've got Charbonnet, I think, one or two spots higher. Singletary or Javante Williams against... Singletary. ...arguably the best run defense in football?

Singletary. You love to say that. It's amazing, but they are really good against the run. They're not great against running backs in the passing game, though. Maybe Javante can make it up there. Eighth most receiving yards per game

allowed by the Texans. I think that's Samaje. I mean, Piran had one catch last week, but no, I mean, Piran had one catch last week. But no, I mean, Piran plays on third down, and Javante does not. But the Broncos throw to their running backs all the time. So I wonder if that'll be a big part of Javante Williams' game this week.

Heath, Jamie, you also have Singletary ahead of Javante? Oh, yeah, yeah. Javante is, I think I have a couple guys in my top 24. Three guys in particular that I know stand out to me that I don't love. Javante is one. Charbonnet is one. And Mixon is one.

I can't find better players than them to get in my top 24. He's getting the work. 18 or more carries in three of his last four games. Three or more catches in four of his last five games. So what is it that you don't like about Javante Williams guys? They don't get rushing touchdowns from their backs. Certainly him yet to score one this season. And you've seen it now that the work in the passing game, which was sort of carrying him.

I know last week was a little bit better, but two games ago was awful against Minnesota. So it's a similar type of defense. I just don't think he's gonna have a great game. Okay. Yeah. He hasn't done anything. I just don't think he's going to have a great game. Okay. He hasn't done anything. I know the touches have been there, but he hasn't done anything that would justify ranking him much higher than this. Yeah, he hasn't had any big plays, really. I think his longest run is 21

yards. He's averaging 3.8 yards per carry. Sorry for Schaefer. He just put up a Javante Williams graphic, but I think we're moving on from Javante Williams. Last question actually on Javante. Would you start him over Joe Mixon? One spot ahead for me. I have him two spots ahead. And how about Russell Wilson this week?

Start or sit? Start him. I think he'll be in that 18th to 20-point range, which could make him a top-five guy this week, but I think more top-ten. But yeah, he point range, which could make him a top five guy this week, but I think more of the top 10. But yeah, he's look, you know what you're getting.

You're getting a guy that's going to be right around 200 yards or less. You're getting a guy that's hopefully going to get you multiple touchdowns, limited turnovers. I'd like to see him get back to running the ball a little bit more. That's kind of disappeared the last few weeks, but we've seen some vulnerabilities in this, in this text and secondary, certainly last week for sure.

So hopefully Russell Wilson takes advantage of it. I think it's going to be a shootout. I really do. I think it's going to be a fun game, and we see both these offenses show up and perform well, mostly from a passing perspective. Man, do the Broncos ever get into a shootout, really? That would be something.

They're so conservative. They're so boring. They're so boring. Russell're so boring. They're so boring. Russell Wilson, by the way, said the Texans have allowed 22 or more points to four straight quarterbacks. Mayfield, Burrow, Kyler, and Trevor Lawrence. Cortland Sutton. How do we feel about Cortland Sutton this week?

Start him. Must start or shiver. SMU kid, so from the state. Grew up. I saw, IU kid. From the state. Grew up. I saw... I forget the name of the city. Starts with a B. It's halfway between Houston and Austin. I'm going to guess he has some family members there. Boston.

As well. Austin. It starts with a B. He's from Boston. Yes. Good reference. What's the movie again? Boston, Massachusetts. That's Road Trip. Another. Good reference. What's the movie again? Boston, Massachusetts. That's Road Trip. Road Trip, right.

Another Amy Smart movie. You love Amy Smart. Yeah. Yeah. So he played them last year. Seven catches, 122 yards. It was in Denver. So there's some familiarity, at least with some of the personnel there.

But I think you kind of know what you're getting. You're getting a receiver that's going to be touchdown dependent to a certain extent. He's scored in five of his last six. You like it when the targets are up. That happened three games ago. We had a 10-target game. But this is Russell Wilson's go-to guy. So given this matchup, I think he's a safe number two receiver.

Cool. And we're not starting a Denver tight end, are we? We just have to ask because the Texans are so bad against tight ends. We're not. No. But that could be where the second Russell Wilson touchdown comes from. And sitting the DSTs? Correct. Correct.

Arizona's at Pittsburgh. All right. How are we feeling about Kyler Murray? He's still struggling to throw the ball downfield. He's 5 of 15 for 165 yards and a touchdown on pass attempts of 20 or more yards. Heath, how are we feeling about Kyler Murray? He is a

high-end QB2 borderline top 12 guy. His fantasy production has been better than his actual quarterback play. You don't necessarily love the matchup, especially on the road, but you may not have much of a better choice. There's certainly no streamers that I would start over Kyler Murray.

I would start Minshew over Murray this week. Um, I, I, first off, if there's no McBride, Wilson, uh,

Brown is the third one, right? That's also doing an entry. Yeah. There's, there's no chance you're starting Kyler Murray. Um, the other part of this is like he said, is his that's also dealing with injury? Yeah. There's no chance you're starting Kyler Murray. The other part of this is, like he said, his fantasy production has been better than his real-life production.

He's got a rushing touchdown in three straight games. In two of those, he ran for 33 yards. He's going to have to run, but he's going to be running for his life. I mean, this pass rush is back to being the Steelers' pass rush. They're going to make things very uncomfortable for Kyler Murray. I don't think we're going to get great performance out of Marquise Brown. You know, last week was, was good, but you know, two of three games have been miserable for him.

McBride is really the only safe start for me, for the Cardinals, assuming that he's healthy. And then I just look at what Greg Dortch has done when he's had four or more targets, you know, it's been very consistent production. So, you know, he's going to play if Michael Wilson's out. So he qualifies as a borderline number three receiver. I would still take the upside of Marquise Brown over Dortch

if that comes into question. But I don't love the situation for this passing game at all for Kyler. I think he's going to have to score two rushing touchdowns to be a good fantasy quarterback this week. Zach wants to know, Kyler Murray or Trevor Lawrence?

Lawrence. Lawrence. Okay. They are not super high on the Cardinals. James Connor is just outside the top 24. Right in the Joe Mix and Javante Williams range. And you're starting both Steelers running backs over him. Yeah.

How about James Connor or Samaje Pirine? Connor. Connor, but that's closer to where Connor is right now. Yeah. Okay. Steelers. I do have Connor over Mixon. Okay.

Pittsburgh's allowed only one running back carry of longer than 16 yards in their last nine games. That's pretty impressive. All right. The wide receivers are going to try to get their event game narrative. Mike Tomlin's talked about they're going to make things uncomfortable for James Conner

because they know how good Conner is. It was very complimentary, but they are aware of James Conner coming back to Pittsburgh. All right. McBride's a no-brainer, right?

If he plays? Yep. He is, yes. Okay. So, Kenny Pickett against a team that allows the fifth most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Heath, where did Kenny Pickett against a team that allows the fifth most fantasy points to quarterbacks.

Heath, where did Kenny Pickett end up in your rankings? He made the top 24 this week. That's about all the positive things that I have to say about that. If you want to trough the matchup and hope that the new offense is going to make him a little bit better, I didn't see enough last week to move him up in a game where he still didn't produce a touchdown. By the way, I just want to go back to this

because Cousin Ernest has been asking. Connor or Charbonnet? Charbonnet. And then in this game, Deontay Johnson or Hollywood Brown? These are questions from the chat. Deontay. Deontay. Kyler Murray or... I would take chances on Deontay. Kyler Murray.

I would take chances on Hollywood and none. Kyler or Howell? Howell. Howell. Howell. I have that decision to make myself. Deontay Johnson or Christian Watson? Deontay.

Deontay. Deontay Johnson or Cortland Sutton? Sutton. Sutton. Sutton. All right, so let's go back to the Steelers here. Najee Harris, start of the week. How do we feel, Jamie? How do you feel about Jalen Warren?

I think you said he's about 20th for you. He's also right around there for Heath. What do you expect from Warren in this game? Very similar to what we've been getting. You know, somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 15 carries and, you know, probably three catches. You know, so chance for 15 total touches i think is there i think both running backs are going to have the best performances of anybody in

this game and that includes mcbride so i like the setup for these guys i mean again we've seen what this steelers run offense has been for the majority of the season but we've also seen what they did last week where both guys got 15 total touches each um i do think nazi's the better play just because of you know what type of touches he'll get in his role still in this offense i mean they got over 400 total yards for the first time ever uh you know in kenny pickett's era i think it is oh yeah but certainly before matt canada was there so the one thing i do think that we could see is based on how this game unfolds, I think we could get potentially a two touchdown game from Kenny Pickett. I know that's rare to say, but would not surprise me if we get a Pat Fryer move touchdown

and then a touchdown to somebody else, maybe one of the wide receivers. But this is a bad defense on the road against the team that I think is going to start to surge a little bit in the Steelers. But obviously, I think the running backs are the key to this team. And Jalen Warren will get enough action and production to be in most or should bit in the Steelers. But obviously, I think the running backs are the key to this team, and Jalen Moore will get enough action and production to be in most or should be in most starting lineups. All right. If Kenny Pickett has a two-touchdown game, you need to throw the Magic 8 ball in the trash,

and you need to just ask Jamie every week, because that would be a much better call than anything the Magic 8 ball has done with Gabe Davis. It's been pretty good with Gabe Davis. It with Gabe Davis. It's been pretty good with Gabe Davis. It really has been. It's been pretty good. But Kenny Pickett has won two touchdown games this season and has not thrown a touchdown pass since November the 2nd.

Yeah, it's been a while. And just one since October the 8th. It's been a while. This would be one of the greatest calls we've had on FFT. Do you always say the word the in between the month and day? Is that October the 8th, November the 2nd, or is that just you were being theatrical? I don't know.

I didn't even think about it. What's today's date, Heath? November 30th. Okay. Yeah. All right. That was good. That was a good presentation.

But I had to think about it that time. It's almost December. It was November the 30th. Okay. Yeah. All right. That was good. It was good. But I had to think about it that time. It's almost December. It was November 30th. All right. Sorry. Back to this game. Where the hell were we? Deontay Johnson and George Pickens.

All right. Let's do some Deontay Johnson. Deontay Johnson or the inconsistent, frustrating Debo Samuel. Debo. Debo. DeAndre Hopkins or Deontay Johnson? What a rude way to describe him. Yeah.

And comparing him to the consistent Deontay Johnson. Well, I didn't say he was consistent. I just, you know, all right. Well, I mean, you put one in context over the other. DeAndre Hopkins or Deontay Don?

I'll take Hopkins. I've got Johnson just barely. Rasheed Rice or Deontay? Rasheed. How much... Real quick, because we'll get to this game tomorrow. No McKinnon, no Tony, no Hardman last week. If those three guys play, or two of them play,

how much is that going to influence your Mikko Hardman? Sorry, your Rishi Rice ranking? I'm just, and I think a lot of people are in this position, just hopeful that the switch flipped last week. And Dan and I talked about this on the Tuesday show. I think he talked about it on the box score on Monday, Adam. It was that back shoulder throw down the left sideline that I just kind of, like that's a high, high trust throw.

And it's not the type of throw that Mahomes has made to Rasheed Rice. So I'm hopeful that those guys don't really matter, that it's just he's the number one wide receiver now. All right, I got to ask you about Pat Fryermuth, top waiver wire pickup here. Jamie has him sixth jamie has him sixth uh heath has him 11th and dave fifth so heath you have him behind jake ferguson behind juwan johnson both saints guys well i've got juwan johnson top 10 if there's no chris olave or rashid shaheed so yes. And the Pat Frymer thing is that he was

18-20 last week and it was one incredibly good game, but it was against the best or second best or third best matchup for tight ends. This hasn't been quite that for the season. So with the fact that we're talking about a quarterback who's thrown one one touchdown pass in his last seven games i don't have a very high touchdown projection for for pat fryer muth so it's just a little bit of caution but i'm probably starting him i would say take everything he said about rice and apply it to fryer muth yeah like they finally just got something out of

a change you know like and how do you go away from that? And, you know, I know Keith was, I know I was, I don't want to speak for Dave or you, Adam, but like we were hoping that this was going to be a Pat Fryer with breakout season. And is it now finally like, okay, that's on the table because you see, we target him. He produces those seam throws for a quarterback. That's a little bit concerned to throw over the middle. If it's designed, right. They're easier throws, you know, and that's what we saw a couple of those from, from picket to fire move. And so this is where I think it comes into play for fire move and the

touchdown potential is that's what we've seen from the tight ends against this team, Tyler Higbee, who couldn't catch a touchdown to save his life scores two last week against this defense. They've given up touchdowns to tight ends, not consistently, but consistently enough that you can say there's a chance here. So I think that's where fire move comes into play.

I don't think he's going for what he did last week, but I do think that there's an opportunity here for him to relive some of his red zone magic. Like we saw in his rookie campaign score, two touchdowns in two of his first four games this year from picket. So there's a chance here, I think for them to feature him a little bit in the red zone. If they get there,

I hope it doesn't come at the expense of Najee Harris, but I do think that Fryer Muth will have an opportunity here to maybe he may be the two touchdowns from Kenny picket. Okay. Okay. So we got to go a little bit faster here. We'll do that after this break. Pittsburgh's DST is third.

Pat Frymuth, by the way, he did have five games last year with 75 or more yards. He followed those up with 22, 12, 57, 39, and 33 yards. So he does have a history of big games. He had 120, though, last week. Also, I should mention 12 yards from last year. He followed up one of those big games with 12 yards. He left that game with an injury. But he's been pretty up and down.

But let's hope it is the start of something here. So he is a starter, a higher-end starter for Jamie, but still a starter for Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We will take a break. We've got Indianapolis at Tennessee. Is this going to be a Derrick Henry game? We'll tell you when we come back on Fantasy Football today. This is going to be such a great weekend of college football.

Oh, yes, it is. Very fired up for that. Except I think the ACC. What game are you looking forward to the most? Oregon, Washington. Yes. Yes. Got to see Michael Penix looks.

Got to do some scouting. Okay, anyway, the stat of the game for Indianapolis, Tennessee. I'm going to let Jamie take it here. It's just how everything I think sets up nicely for Derrick Henry, right? It is, yeah. Going back to last week, now it's seven of eight games

where they've either been within seven points or winning the game, seven point loss or winning the game. 16.2 PPR points or more for him. So, look, there's a chance here. I think you just got to hope that he falls in the end zone because I don't think he's going to run for a ton of yards.

I just haven't seen that from him recently. But he could score twice. It would not be surprising, you know, as we've seen from him. So, still a must-start running back. I've kind of gone a little bit up and down with him in the rankings. I started with him as a top 12 guy. He's outside that now, but he's got that potential just based on this game flow, game script,

however you want to define it for how the season has gone. Basically, it's this. He's great, great when he gets a lot of carries. He gets a lot of carries when they win or are in a very close game. They are 4-0 at home, for what that's worth. They're at home in this game. They're one-point underdogs.

But you have him 19th, and Heath has him 18th, so it's not super high. Although, really, everybody in front of him, pretty much everybody in front of him looks like a good start this week. I can't really, you know, argue too much. I see Heath like Charbonnet and Bryan Robinson over Henry. Maybe you could quibble there. But, yeah, I don't know. And that's just a PPR thing, because those guys might catch five or six passes. Okay. Robinson over Henry. Maybe you could quibble there. I don't know.

That's just a PPR thing because those guys might catch five or six passes. Half PPR, would you take Henry over those guys? Don't think Brian Robinson is catching five or six passes with Gibson there. Okay. Sorry, I think we got a little skip there. All right. Henry is a low-end, mid-range number two. Mid-range number two.

Look, you have Derek Henry unless you got some really good... Like he said, Zach Moss, you're most likely starting Derek Henry. Okay. So Hopkins and Downs are number three receivers. Zach Moss we've already talked about. Yeah, should be great. Tennessee has gotten better against the run. They are giving up production in the passing game, though.

It's like about a month ago we were saying, oh, man, their pass defense hasn't been so bad, but their run defense has been surprisingly bad. Now everything is flipped. They're back to being a good run defense and a really bad pass defense here. So Michael Pittman is, yeah, amazing. And downs 13 targets last week.

He's got some upside. But he's not quite cracking the top 24. That's what I think the interesting part of this game is. Can you buy into these quarterbacks with six quarterbacks on a buy? Given what their potential could be. Now it's harder to trust. We'll love is clearly because we've seen one amazing game and then a bunch of stinkers, but I would take Minshew in this question,

Minshew or Jordan love. I think Minshew's upside is, is a little bit higher given his matchup, you know, and I know we haven't seen it that much. And look, Keith loves Zach Moss. I like Zach Moss top 10 running back for me too. But if the run game stalls and it's more of a Gardner Minshew game, we could get one of these three touchdown, two interception, two fumble type of games for Gardner Minshew. And he falls backwards into a 20 point fantasy game.

You know, we just haven't seen that consistently, but you know, you go back to before Jonathan Taylor was starting to get going a little bit, they were relying on him a little bit more. Look at that Cleveland game, for example, when I think they thought they couldn't run the ball to a lot of success. They came out with a huge play out of the gate, the big touchdown to Josh Downs in the opening drive. So they may have to rely a little bit more on Minshew in this matchup, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a big game

because the Titans have given up a lot of them to opposing quarterbacks. He's topped 18 fantasy points once all season is the real problem like Minshew's been so much better for the Colts and for Michael Pittman and for Josh Downs than he has been for anybody who starred him in fantasy but I agree he's the top streamer I'm just not I wouldn't start him over love I wouldn't start him over anybody that I can think of that you might have been starting okay you wouldn't start him over kyler no jamie you would right yeah and you say 18 points like that's what the average is the titans give up 18 points is going to be a top 10 quarterback this week you know we don't have enough well that's been

his ceiling almost though uh don't disagree i listen i i'm not i'm not saying this is a 28 point game for gardner minchu i think you know save 10 points off that that he'll hopefully get to, you know, if you're talking about a good game. Look, he was on his way to a good game last week, finished with 15 points. You know, so it's not like we're talking about a world-beating quarterback here. But if you're just looking matchups right now, the matchup is better to throw against them than it is to run against them. It is. Yeah, he's had a lot of tough matchups.

But two, I'd say, two very favorable matchups. 11.6 points at Jacksonville and 14.6 points against Tampa Bay. So it's hard to have a ton of faith in him. And then throw a touchdown against Tampa Bay too, which is alarming. So this isn't, oh my God, you have to start Gardner-Mitchell by no stretch.

But we're talking about Jordan Love against the Chiefs. We know what that defense has been. And we're also talking about Kyler Murray against the Steelers. For me, I'm going to play matchups in that regard and hope that whereas those two guys, you could say, playing better fantasy production-wise, Jordan

Love by far playing better, but I don't love that setup for Jordan Love against the Chiefs, and I certainly don't love the setup for Kyler Murray against the Steelers. All right. I don't know if you want to go into more Steelers. All right. Is there anything else? You guys, I don't know if you want to go into more detail on Josh Downs or DeAndre Hopkins. They're kind of the tougher calls in this game.

Cooper Cup? I asked you that earlier. Sorry. Cup over both. Cup over both. Cup over both, but slightly. They're back-to-back for me. Cup one spot over Downs.

Jamie, could you please ask that bird to keep it down? Thank you. Okay, and how about the Titans or the Colts? I'm on a golf course, Adam. It's birdie. Oh, nice. The Colts DST, start or sit? Dave loves them.

I mean, he absolutely loves them, based on our waiver wire conversation earlier this week. It's not a bad call. They've been playing better of late, and you're banking on Will Levis, you know, being a potential turnover machine, which he could. But they're not my favorite streamer. Like, I like the Jaguars better. I like the Falcons better.

I like the Chargers better. So they're, you know, in the mix. When he brought it up on Tuesday, I added them to the back end of the defenses to pick up. There's a lot. I mean, look, at this point for this week, it's the perfect time to stream defenses with how many bad quarterbacks there are

and how many available defenses that are out there. But the 49ers are playing the Eagles, and I'd still just rather start the 49ers against the Eagles. I think there's a connection between the Colts defense and Gardner Minshew and Derek Henry that like if you think it's going to be a good Henry week, then it's probably not going to be a great Minshew week or a great Colts defense week. Cincinnati is at Jacksonville. Stat of the game.

Number one, Jacksonville allows the most catches and the second most receiving yards per game to running backs. So if there is an avenue for Joe Mixon, it would be that. Stat of the game number two. This I think is fascinating, right? Only Washington allows more big pass plays,

completions, than Cincinnati. And teams throw the ball deep on Cincinnati more than any other team. They have the highest air yards per pass attempt against, on average, in the NFL. Lawrence, in his last two games, which has been this sort of mid-season renaissance here for him,

his highest air yard games, or air yard per pass attempt games of the season. So he's throwing downfield with a little bit more success. It's benefiting Calvin Ridley in a big way. And if he's going to keep doing that, this is the perfect matchup other than Washington. Cincinnati is the perfect matchup. I have a little concern about this game. I think the Jaguars could run away with it.

And you get 30 pass attempts from Lawrence, which is six targets for Kirk, seven or eight for Ridley, and they disappoint a little bit here. Heath, how do you feel about the Jaguars passing game coming off two strong performances? I don't, and I hate to keep saying this, but it's basically just this week. I understand that concern. At the same time, you're starting Trevor Lawrence, you're starting Calvin Ridley, you're starting Christian Kirkirk the two wide receivers are both top 18 wide receivers and and lawrence is a top 12 quarterback for sure i think dave and jamie have them even just a little

bit higher than that um i think that the the upside comes from what you talked about the big play potential and if that hits then it could be a 30-pass attempt game where he hits two long touchdowns and still scores 25 fantasy points. But the problem is if those guys get tackled inside the 10

and then Travis Etienne scores the touchdowns. Yeah. So Lawrence, Jamie, you have him fifth and Heath 11th. So that's a big difference there. Dave has Lawrence seventh.

You also all have Travis Etienne in the top five in one format, top eight in the other. So I guess that's suffice to say you're just expecting the Jaguars to do very well in this game, Jamie. Yeah. I mean, you know, you, again, look at this defense

and who's potentially missing, you know, Cam Taylor Britt and Logan Wilson banged up a little bit for the Bengals as well. Those are two key parts of what they do in trying to stop anybody, which has not exactly been great this season. The Jaguars should have the ball 70% of the time, 80% of the time. I mean, this is a bad offense for Cincinnati, so they should be able to do whatever they want to. Could they just be handing off all day? Sure. But I do think there's also something to the narrative of trying to get Trevor Lawrence going,

which we've seen the last few games and you see how that's been productive for this team and making sure that he's right going into the playoffs. So I think it's a quarterback getting hot at the right time, taking on a defense that's struggling. I think we're going to get an Evan Ingram touchdown for the first time. Yeah. He just had a question. Will Ingram score his first touchdown?

Yeah, I think he will. I mean, you know, we saw Fryer move to destroy this team. And you heard in the broadcast, I said it on Sunday, they made mention that Trevor Lawrence is aware that Ingram hasn't scored a touchdown. You saw the bad end zone throw, but there was an end zone target in that game last week against the Texans, another team that struggles against tight ends. And he had a decent stat line for PPR.

So I think this is a Trevor Lawrence game. And I think it's going to be etn still going to get his production you know this is definitely a matchup that you don't run away from by any stretch but i i like the setup for lawrence i like what this offense has looked like when zay jones is on the field it just changes everything for calvin ridley unfortunately it changes some things in the negative for christian kirk but not anything that you should be afraid of him uh but i think you look you you just look at this defense, the way he's playing the last couple of games, Lawrence, I mean,

and what this opportunity is. It's a show-off game. This is a primetime game against a struggling opponent in your building. I think we're going to get a big performance from Trevor Lawrence. You look at the rankings, and Kirk and Ridley are top 20 for everyone. Ingram is top six. Ingram is top 6. ETN is top 8. Lawrence, like I said, this graphic said 7th for Jamie.

I thought he was 5th. I changed it this morning, yeah. To 5th? Mm-hmm. 7th for Dave, 11th for Heath. But that sounds like a 30-plus point outburst for the Jacksonville Jaguars, you know, if all of those guys are going to be must-starts. Maybe it's hard.

It's not just the Joe Burrow thing, but this is a bad Bengals team. The defense has been terrible against the run all year and not good against the big plays in the passing game either, and the offense is terrible because they've got Jake Browning playing quarterback. The problem is there might be a 30 point outburst for outburst for Jacksonville.

And it's a defensive touchdown and a couple of ETN touchdowns. And then the passing game is not quite there. Very well. Could be. Yep. Yeah. The, the Jaguar or the Bengals give up the most yards per play in the NFL,

but they are pretty good in the red zone. They do. They do a decent job keeping you out of the end zone. All right. We've talked a lot about this game. So mixing is a sit try to get away from him uh obviously not anyone but jamar chase we're not starting on the cincinnati bangles so then it's chase uh fifth top he's about 15th 15th for jamie 13th for heath and 20th for dave i'll tell you what man those targets that he got almost almost all of them were terrible.

I mean, forced throws. At least one was intercepted. Another one definitely should have been. A third one could have been. So he was just forcing the ball to Chase in traffic. He did have one nice play up the sideline where Chase made a good catch. It was like 26 yards. But it was ugly last week for sure. So I asked you this earlier. I'll ask you again. Favorite wide receiver in this game for fantasy is who? Ridley. Chase, but just barely.

They're all... Ridley's played five games with Zay Jones. Four of those Jones finished. And in all four that he's finished, really scored at least 20 PPR points. I would really love someone to tell me specifically what different routes Calvin Ridley is running. Because I'm not great at looking at this stuff on true media. It looked fairly similar.

It feels like a big, stupid coincidence to me. But go ahead, Jamie. No, our buddy Jake Sealy tweeted something at me in terms of his target percentage. I don't know if it was anything with his routes, but. That's what I want to know. This whole Zay Joe thing, I just, I don't really buy that that is the reason for this. Well, it's, you talked about this, that gives him the opportunity to play in the slot more. But he didn't last week. He went way back down to not playing in the slot hardly at all last week. And his touchdown did not come in the slot. He did nothing out of the slot last week, and he still had a huge game.

He's starting to finally convert on end zone targets. He has five of those in the last two games. He's making big plays. He's got a bunch of air yards in the last two games. I think when you look at him, he's been horrible whenever he's faced a good cornerback. He's just been shut down by good corners. I don't know. I don't really

care what the answer is. He's hot right now and we're going to start him, but just count me as a little bit of a skeptic that Zay Jones is the reason for this. Okay, but so for whatever it's worth, Jones plays, Ridley's better. So it's simplified. Why do we have to complicate things? worth, Jones plays, Ridley's better. So it's simplified. Why do we have to complicate things?

No, that's fine. Jones on the field, Ridley awesome. All right. All right, there you go. So it's almost a start your Jaguars, sit your Bengals game with Jamar Chase being the exception. He's a number two wide receiver. The Chargers are at the Patriots.

Justin Herbert has struggled in tough matchups. Is this a tough matchup? Will he struggle? Heath, how do you feel about Justin Herbert this week? Mid-range starter. I think I've got him at QB seven. I have him ahead of Lawrence, but I think those two are debatable. He's not a necessarily a must start. I'd start Brock Purdy and CJ Stroud over him, but I'm mostly just going back to him. Okay. Nobody's starting Gardner Minshew over him or anything, right?

No. No. Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert? Heath just told you that. I'm asking you. You're the high guy on Lawrence, Jamie. Yes, I'm starting Lawrence over Herbert. I'm going to start Herbert over Lawrence, but it's close.

I know that. I just want to go back over Lawrence, but it's close. I know that. I just want to go back to something. You made a very good point. What was the game we were talking about before the Jaguars game? Tennessee? Yes. You said something at the end of that, and Adam completely didn't even pay attention to what you were saying and just went right into the next game.

Yeah, he doesn't actually hear when I talk. I wanted to ask you how you felt about that, because you said if it's a Minshew game, it's not a Henry game, or however you phrase it. What was I supposed to say? We spent like 10 minutes on that game. We were good. You could have acknowledged what he said and just said, oh, that's good. All right, now let's go on to Jacksonville, Cincinnati. You just went

straight into it. I do feel like we're a little long today. I do feel like we're a little long. We only had six games. Yeah. We are a little long today. Extrem do feel like we're a little long. We only had six games. Yeah. Right? We are a little long today. Extremely. It's not your fault.

It's not anyone's fault. Never has been. It's not your fault. I don't really know what angle you're playing right here. I can't quite tell. Austin Eckler is top 12. He's not the super elite top three guy or anything like that, but he's 10th or 11th for Jamie and Heath. Start him. Start

Keenan Allen. It's a tough week with wide receivers. Any interest in Jalen Guyton or Quinton Johnston? Definitely not Quinton Johnston. I think desperation play Guyton could be alright, but I don't want to start. I'd rather start A.T. Perry, for example, if there's no Chris

Alavi. I would agree with that. Gerald Everett or Logan Thomas? I would go to Logan Thomas. I'm going to see if I can get the exact stat, but it's one of my favorite stats from this week on the Chargers tight ends because Everett and Donald Parham together for the season have,

sorry, give me one sec. Tight end has scored for the Chargers 10.8 PPR points in five of their last seven games. So the position has been fairly successful. Everett's got three of those, three of the five. So they've been fairly successful in utilizing their tight ends. I don't know if you want to trust that this week, though. No, because I think some of that was Parham without Everett, which we would trust, but we wouldn't trust them.

No, but it's the two games. It essentially breaks down. Whenever it's been the healthy guy, he's gotten three of those. When Parham's been the only guy, he got the other two. Okay. Gerald Everett or

Hunter Henry? Who has it? I didn't get a target last week, Heath, but he's got an opportunity. It's still Hunter Henry for me, and there was actually a third tight end that's in that group two weeks ago. It was Stone Smart, who had a 51-yard touchdown catch, who also scored.

I didn't even factor him in. He scored 12 PPR fantasy points in that game on one catch. Yeah. Which revenge game matters to you more this week? You've got the James Conner one against the Steelers. You've got Hunter Henry

against the Chargers. You've got MVS against the Packers. You've got Baker Mayfield against the Panthers. And I believe there's one more. I'm going to go with James Connor. I would go Baker first, then Connor. I think the problem for Henry is that he doesn't get very much control over it.

Like he could really give his best effort and they just don't throw it well to him and the entire game. And so he doesn't get very much control over it. He could really give his best effort, and they just don't throw a ball to him the entire game. His only revenge is blocking people. Like or love from Andre Stevenson this week? Love. Especially if all parts of Ezekiel

Elliott's thigh are a problem. Yes, I would agree with that. Whichever part is injured, I would agree with that if whichever part is injured. I like him. He's a guy I'm definitely starting 13th. He's not quite a top 12 guy, but he'd be top 12 if Zeke was out. Alright. And Demario

Douglas, if he plays, would he crack your top 24, Demario Douglas, if he plays? No, but high end number three receiver. He might might because he was trending towards that before. I think he had nine targets before he left that game

last week. Yeah, impressive. Nine targets and six catches, yes. Against this Chargers defense, I think I'm looking at Cooper Cup at 23 and I think I'd have Douglas ahead of him. Yeah, keep an eye on it because the Chargers also allow the most yards per catch to slot receivers, to wide receivers

who line up in the slot on that particular play. If he does not play, who is the sleeper here? Is it Parker? Is it Juju? Is it Henry? Who's the sleeper? Is it nobody? I'd lean Parker, just based on, I think, upside. But good God, that's a disaster, thinking about starting Bailey Zappi's number one wide receiver,

not named Mario Douglas. It would be a disaster, but he's in my top 48 right now because we're not projecting Douglas. I think there's people that might be desperate enough with six teams on a bye. Because I'm Zappi! Atlanta at New York Jets!

Okay, repeats that of the game. No running back has scored a rushing touchdown against the Falcons this season. We know that. Oh, I need some music here. Here is a spooky, scary stat of the game for Falcons Jets.

Everybody's riding this B. John Robinson high. Guess what? His percentage of carries last week was only 47% of the running back carries. It was 65% the week before. The Falcons have run the ball, but just their running backs, 34 times, two straight games, which I wonder is maybe why Heath is a little bit lower

than I would have expected on Bijan Robinson, because quite frankly, he would be my number two running back this week behind Christian McCaffrey. He's my Zach Moss, Heath. You still obviously are starting him, but I think you have him like ninth or something. He might be 12th, but he's a top 12 running back for sure. But, yeah, I do think this Arthur Smith is a good guy now, and fantasy managers are happy because he's using Bijan Robinson.

I don't think that's actually true. And the reason last week wasn't because it was Tyler Algier. It's because they decided, you know what, it's getting to the end of the season. We need to get Cordero Patterson more involved in the run game and gave him more carries. I think that we've seen all season. So I still think there's a potential for a B. John Robinson, 14 carry 70 yard, no touchdown game. All right. Everyone's going to start him. Do you have the breakdown of when those carries occurred for all three guys? I looked at the game log last week. It was a very competitive game.

It ended up being a nine-point game. They kicked a late field goal to make it a two-score game. Bijan was in there on their last series, basically, except for the kneel down. So I don't have a specific breakdown, but there was no garbage time or anything like that involved last week. The good thing is he's being used in the red zone now. In the green zone, he's scoring the touchdown, so that at least is helpful for beating down. What is this matchup like? I haven't really thought about the Jets as a defensive matchup, but against running backs, have they just been fine?

No, it's favorable. I mean, per carry, they're fine, but they give up the fifth most points to running backs, the sixth most receiving yards per game to running backs. They're on the field all day. They're on the field all day. You might get another 34 carries from the running backs. You never know. Yeah. Starter.

It's Drake London, Brees Hall, Garrett Wilson. That's the conversation here. You're going to sit Kyle Pitts if you can at this point. But Drake London, Garrett Wilson, Brees hall heath and your flex rankings how do you rank those three well uh hall and wilson are not flexes they're both for me they're both top 15 top 16 at their position so i'd view both of them as pretty close to must start options london would be a distant third behind those guys and i've got him at wide receiver 25. I might move Drake London ahead of Cooper Cup, but he's right in that range with Deontay Johnson

just ahead of Josh Downs and DeAndre Hopkins. This could be ugly for him. Ugly for Drake London. Because the Jets are still a really good defense in the secondary. I really would make the case, yes, they are, absolutely, but they never use sauce to shadow. He lines up more on the left side away from where Gardner would be than he does on the right side.

And I know DJ Reed, DJ Reed, whatever. Have they stopped good wide receivers this year? They have not. And I know Drake London is not, you know, he's not CeeDee Lamb. They did a good job on Stefan Diggs, I think, once. But, yeah, go ahead. No, the other reason is because if this is a run at 35 times type of game, and Bijan gets his 20 carries and there's still 15 carries for somebody else,

I know it was a good game for Drake Lennon last week, but it was still just seven targets. Seven targets for him this season has been five for 50, for 53 for 28 um i'm not you know what i'm not gonna sit him if you can i agree i'm not i was trying to make a case it's not worth my time i think garrett wilson's more interesting to talk about here um with boyle i i i mean it was a horrible performance i know he got 17 points he got that late touchdown but not very inspiring because boyle threw four yards per attempt in the air, four yards per time. So pretty pathetic. But he said he's very confident.

He has him as an easy start. Jamie, do you think Garrett Wilson is an easy start? I don't think he's ever an easy start with this quarterback situation, but I'll go back to what I said. He's kind of just a set it and forget it type of guy in PPR because you just kind of see, despite the bad quarterback play, despite the yards per attempt, despite the coverage, despite everything that's been working against him, he's found a way to be productive. Whether it's going back to week one, when he had to play defense to score a touchdown to week two, when he had the big play against the Cowboys, like he's just a great player. And so sometimes great players overcome bad situations. That's what I'm hopeful for Jamar Chase as the rest of the season unfolds you know me garrett wilson's frustrated he's pissed

he's upset i all those things like you hear every comment after he's a game how much more can i take of this like it's it's it's annoying to have to perform like he's how many times you've seen a jets game hopefully not a lot but how many times you have you seen a Jets game where they show Garrett Wilson was open and he's running in the clear and there's no chance the quarterback has looked for him, whether it's Zach Wilson or Tim Boyle. That's what it is. He is doing everything he's supposed to do and his quarterback play is hampering him. So I'm just starting. And I almost feel like we really shouldn't, you can't penalize him for the quarterback play when he's had poor quarterback play all season long and he scores 15 fantasy points or more almost every single week.

Yeah, yeah. Who cares? Who cares how bad his quarterback play is? He's played with the worst quarterbacks in the NFL and scored 15 points almost every single week. Yeah. I would have faith in him with Zach Wilson. Tim Boyle, I think, is actually worse and refuses to throw the ball downfield, or at least he did in his first start.

All right, I'll just read a few questions here. Amari Cooper or Drake London? Well, we don't know if Cooper's playing yet. If it's Flacco, it's Cooper. Easy for me. I would agree. If it's Flacco and Cooper, I'd go Cooper. If it's DTR, then I'd go London. Austin Eckler or the Lions running backs? Still Eckler.

I would go Gibbs, Eckler, Montgomery. Puka Nakua or Brees Hall? Puka and PPR. I'm going to need to look that one up. They might have the same number of targets. I've got Brees in all formats.

Start one. Bijan or sit one? Bijan, Pollard, Moss, Kyron Williams. Who are you sitting? B. John, Pollard, Moss, Kyron Williams. Who are you sitting? B. John, Tony Pollard, Zach Moss, Kyron Williams. Pollard. And

I don't need Adam to say great point. And Adam transition king. Thank you. Vindication. Having the worst hair day of my life, though. I got to tell you. No, you've had many this season that were worse This is terrible oh boy Well the fact that you keep messing with it

It's terrible If you just let it go Look at this You keep pulling it up to not make it go anywhere I look like I'm balding Just horrible Look at this pathetic thing on my head Goodbye everybody We'll talk to you tomorrow with the Look at this pathetic thing on my head. Goodbye, everybody.

We'll talk to you tomorrow with the NFC home games. Have a wonderful Wednesday.