Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC)! Jerome Ford, Zack Moss, George Pickens and More (09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 21, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Raheem Mostert is our Start of the Week! Fin...d out why Jamey is so high on him. Then we'll get some reaction (3:30) to the Cam Akers trade and the Kareem Hunt signing before Dave, Jamey and Heath give us the players they love (9:45) and the players they are avoiding (11:40). Start Nico Collins! Try to avoid Dameon Pierce ... News and notes (16:50) on Justin Fields and his new approach plus everything else you need to know from around the NFL. Then we've got One Question for Each Game (24:35)! Is Javonte Williams going to have his breakout game? Is Trevor Lawrence? Start or Sit D.J. Moore? Do we actually like Deshaun Watson this week? ... Start or Sit for Texans-Jaguars (33:45), Rams-Bengals (39:30), Broncos-Dolphins (47:50), Colts-Ravens (57:40), Bears-Chiefs (1:05:15), Titans-Browns (1:09:40) and Steelers-Ravens (1:14:35) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:47 It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up, everybody? Let's get ready for Fantasy Week 3. It starts tonight with the 49ers and the Giants. And we've got a four-man show. Heath, Jamie, and Dave are all here to break down eight AFC home games.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Houston at Jacksonville. Rams at Bengals. Who's going to be the quarterback for the Bengals this week? Denver at Miami. Colts at Ravens. Chicago at the Chiefs. Tennessee at Cleveland. Pittsburgh at Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And New England is at the Jets. We also had a trade yesterday that Heath and I already broke down on a bonus podcast, but we'll get Jamie and Dave's take on it as well, and Kareem Hunt signing with the Browns. We have a lot to get. This is going to be a marathon. All right, get comfortable, fellas. We're going to have a long show today. Good morning, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:02:39 What's going on? Who's our star of the week? Raheem Mostert. I like the setup for him a lot, taking on the Broncos. Coming off a strong game, I always love from covering the Dolphins many years ago, whenever
Starting point is 00:02:53 you get these home games in September for these teams that are not used to this environment, it's going to be muggy, it's going to be hot. The last time that the Broncos left Denver was their second preseason game. So they've been home for a month. And so I think it's going to be a little bit of some road weary legs, early start. You know, it's always a favor for the East coast teams. So after what the Broncos just gave up to Brian
Starting point is 00:03:19 Robinson, the way where he most was playing the lack of competition with the Dolphins office playing just lining up, I think for for a big game for Mostert. So he's got top 10 upside. Yeah, Dave has him 7th. Jamie, I think, has him 12th. Heath, not so much. 18th for Mostert. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:03:35 That's a solid start. That's not down on him at all. Okay. We got Jerome Ford, and we got Zach Moss this week, and we got Raheem Mostert. Who are we starting out of those three? Mostert. That's easy, Mostert.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I'm going with Moss. Wow. Jamie, is it easy? What do you think about he had 10, I think, what, he had 10 carries in week one, Mostert, and then 17 in week two? Is there any way to predict that? Yeah. One defense was taking away the pass.
Starting point is 00:04:03 One defense wasn't. There you go. Right. But is there any way to predict that? You know what I mean? Okay. Do you think the Broncos are going to come into Miami and say, the first thing we got to do is stop Raheem Mostert? Well, no. Do you think that's what the Chargers said? No, but the Chargers did.
Starting point is 00:04:20 The difference is, is that the Patriots laid out just playing heavy zone coverage, and that actually kept the game fairly competitive between them and the Dolphins last week. Well, they were in their nickel package the entire game. They were playing with five defensive backs. We've talked about that shell coverage a lot, Jamie. This was like super shell.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And they were daring the Dolphins to run, and the Dolphins were shell and it, they were daring the dolphins to run and the dolphins were like, cool, we'll run it. And so most are already had a good game before he broke away for a long touchdown run to ice it. I think he could do the exact same thing this week. I think he's going to get a lot of work. Denver's run defense fell apart last week against Washington. I think most are, it's awesome. All right, good stuff. We'll get back to players we love, players to avoid. But the start of the week is Raheem Mostert. The big news, Minnesota traded for Cam Akers, and they also signed guard Dalton Risner.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You can decide which one of those two news items is bigger news. But Heath and I talked about it yesterday. And Heath, give me a 10-second summary of our bonus pod. I think Akers could still be, or Madison could still be a start this summary of, of our bonus pod. I think acres could still be, or Madison could still be a start this week. If acres is an active, I think Madison will still be a 60, 40 lead in their first game,
Starting point is 00:05:35 but acres is more likely to be the lead back rest of season. But yeah, but we don't, but that's kind of a guess, right? I mean, it's not, you're not saying that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's a guess. And I don't think either one of them have more than like RB 22 upside in this offense. Okay. Jamie, your thoughts on cam makers going to the Vikings. I think this is a more an indication of the guys behind Madison with the expectation of someone to push Madison. So I think Madison is still the guy, you know, the fact that they made the investment in him in the off season and they just swapped six-round picks to get Cam Akers
Starting point is 00:06:07 just because there's familiarity with the coaching staff there. So for the short term, Madison should still be the lead running back there for what it's worth. I agree with Heath. I think, you know, top 20 upside is probably the limitations. For this week, Madison is a decent start, you know, just given the opponent and the expected score. But, you know, anybody holding on to Ty Chandler at this point,
Starting point is 00:06:26 you could just punt him to the curb. It's just frustrating for maybe giving a young guy an opportunity because I think Cam Akers probably stinks at this point. Dave, how big of a week is this for Alexander Madison to have the Chargers and have maybe a head start on Cam Akers, but he's struggled in two games so far. So how big of a week is week three for Madison? I mean, he already had a head start for Cam Akers, but he's struggled in two games so far. So how big of a week is week three for Madison? I mean, he already had a head start
Starting point is 00:06:49 for the first two weeks of the season, and he couldn't do it. But it's the game of the week, yeah! A couple of 0-2 teams, hopefully a big bonanza. That's the game of the week. Hey! I just heard Heath groan.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, you didn't like that? He's feeling the jinx. You know, you just ruin these great fantasy games. Like, the guy I love is Kirk Cousins, my number one quarterback in the projections this week, and now I've got to go adjust him and put him outside my top 12 somehow because you've destroyed fantastic games two weeks in a row. But it's such a fun jingle.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You know? The jingle's great, but the result at the end sucks. Oh, come on. I'm not a sorcerer. At least I don't think I am. Sometimes I do guess.
Starting point is 00:07:38 All right, no, but I was glad Dave was on the show today because I was really looking forward to working that game in today's show. But, you know, do you feel like this is a big make or break week for Madison?
Starting point is 00:07:52 He's already had two weeks to try and prove that he deserves more work in this offense, and he hasn't done it. The schedule's nice coming up. It's the Chargers, and then it's the Panthers. They've got the Bears two weeks after that. So there are some favorable matchups ahead. This is a team that has thrown the ball 78% of the time through the first two weeks of the season. So there aren't a lot of running back touches to go around as it is. And these two guys, if you look at their numbers just over the last three years,
Starting point is 00:08:18 I know that there's circumstances and injuries and all that stuff. They're identical. Okay. They are identical in yards per carry. They're identical. Okay. They are identical in yards per carry. They're identical and they're practically identical in rush EPA runs of zero or negative yards, the inability to avoid tackles and make plays. I don't think either of these guys are going to be particularly good for fantasy. Identical.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Thank you, Jamie. You always get my awesome. That was fantastic. Thank you, Jamie. You always get my microphone. Awesome. That was fantastic. Thank you. All right, Jamie, the other news item. Positive traction. Positive traction. Cleveland signed Kareem Hunt to a one-year deal
Starting point is 00:08:56 worth up to $4 million, according to Adam Schefter. And then I got people a little riled up on X last night with my Acer stat. Jerome Ford had a 69-yard run against the Steelers. Other than that, he had 15 carries for 36 yards against the Bengals and 15 carries for 37 yards against the Steelers. He may not be good. We'll find out, but this is not a great matchup for him.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's funny because it's a terrible week for running backs really across the board. It's just a lot of bad matchups for a lot of talented players and clearly the injuries as well. If you picked up Jerome Ford, I wouldn't worry about Kareem Hunt this week. It's almost very similar to the Cam Aker situation. A guy who knows the offense, a guy who's familiar with the system. How much will they use him after not having
Starting point is 00:09:38 a training camp in preseason and lack of practice? I think for this week, Jerome Ford slots in as a low-end number two running back. I wouldn't necessarily buy in fully to it because the titans it's it's kind of weird this is now the third straight game they're facing a backup running back so jamal williams week one joshua kelly week two now jerome ford week three but the fact that they shut those guys down and what they did a year ago you know so it's not just okay they're just shutting down crappy running backs there there's a track record here of this team so uh for uh, Ford's probably going to have to either a score,
Starting point is 00:10:08 which they just having a lot, a lot of rushing touchdowns going back last year, I believe it was six, um, in their last now, uh, 19 games. And is he going to be that heavily involved in the passing game? So this is just going to be a low scoring affair. And will he get all the touches like he did? That's the assumption, but we'll find out. So I wouldn't worry about Kareem Hunt for now, but very similar to what you said about Madison. If he does not have a big enough game this week, not necessarily from a production standpoint, just doing the right things, then we could see Kareem Hunt in there sooner rather than later. Yeah. And unfortunately it's Tennessee and then it's Baltimore and then it's a buy. And then
Starting point is 00:10:41 it's San Francisco. We talked about this on Tuesday. Right. But it's not like Kareem Hunt's going to come in there and do different things that are going to make him that much more exceptional than Jerome Ford. It's just a tough schedule. No, it's just you don't want Ford to have three games where he struggles and then what happens after that. So the bottom line is, you know, we told you to be aggressive on Ford
Starting point is 00:10:58 and you should have been, but Kareem Hunt is also a good player to add. I would check his roster percentage right now. But, you know, you guys would add him, right? I mean, I saw him added in most of my leagues. Yeah, of course. Okay, Kareem Hunt is, anybody want to guess? Oh, you can't add him anymore. He is now 84% rostered.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Let's do players we love. Heath, sticking with Kirk Cousins? Well, unfortunately, I'm going to stick with Kirk Cousins, even though you just ruined him. Like I said, when I first did the projections, he came out as QB1 this week. It's just an absolutely perfect spot at home against a terrible defense in a shootout,
Starting point is 00:11:36 the highest over-under on the slate. Elite weapons. There's nothing not to love. It's really hard to sit Kirk Cousins, even if you have a guy that you didn't think you'd be considering sitting. Dave, player you love this week. I think we keep it rolling with Nico Collins, who's been getting huge target volume for Houston.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And this is a Texans team that, whether by choice or because of game script, they're throwing the ball a lot. He's the number one wide receiver there. He's putting up good production behind it. And I don't think Jacksonville's defense is as good as the numbers suggest. Okay. And Nico Collins now 93% rostered. Um, he does, he's got a very high eight. Well, it's pretty high 13.5. You can live on that. Um, but he's kind of a downfield guy. Uh, and then Jamie said, Raheem Mostert, do we agree or disagree on this comment in the chat? Heath drinks seltzer at a bizarrely early time of day.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I don't get it with seltzer. I'm not a seltzer guy. Yeah, it is early for seltzer, Heath. I drink seltzer when we're podcasting. So we start podcast at 10, the first seltzer, Heath? I drink seltzer when we're podcasting. So we start podcast at 10, the first seltzer's at 10. I do a podcast, first podcast at 2,
Starting point is 00:12:51 first seltzer's at 2. I don't have a podcast, I don't have a seltzer at 8.30 in the morning when I'm not doing a podcast, but I do have a seltzer when I'm doing the podcast. It is a podcast drink.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah. Why is that? I mean, does it help your throat or something? It does, yes. Okay. Oh, interesting. That's a good reason. Maybe I should try seltzer. Pro tip. I mean, he it help your throat or something? It does. Yes. Okay. Oh, that's a good reason. Maybe I should try salt.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Pro tip. I mean, he also eats at dinner at three o'clock. I don't eat dinner at three o'clock, but I do eat luncheon at about 10 a.m. Me too. And then again at 1230. All right, Jamie, who are we avoiding? You should avoid me, by the way. But who are we avoiding, Jamie? I would like to avoid DeAndre Hopkins. I don't know how healthy he is, and facing a tough Browns defense with that pass rush
Starting point is 00:13:31 against that offensive line is going to be really problematic for Ryan Tannehill. So if you can get away from DeAndre Hopkins this week, three receiver leagues, I get it. It's hard to mention, but in a two-receiver league, I think you can find better options. Did he practice in full yesterday? I thought he did, and would that matter?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Full, yes. Full, right? Yeah, full practice for him. Does that change anything for you, Jamie? No. Okay. Dave, who do you want to avoid? Who do I really want to avoid?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Okay. Chicken. So here's a problem. I'm nervous about Kyle Pitts. Still haven't ranked top 12. Still think he's worthy of it, but I don't even know if I can say that with a straight face. I don't want to start him.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I just don't know how many other tight ends have the type of potential to put up like 10, 12 PPR points that he could. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're facing the Lions team. That's allowed the most receiving yards, tight ends, and they haven't exactly faced great ones because they avoided Kelsey. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But they haven't given up more than. So like, here's the thing. Like they haven't given up more than nine PPR points to a tight end, but they've, they've stunk. And one of the guys that covers tight ends, he's hurt. Yep. That was James Houston. So now it's this other guy named Derek Barnes. I just, I don't, I don't know how good Kyle Pitts is. Like you, if you want to watch, if you go back and watch the Falcons game, he's not even like the second most explosive guy in
Starting point is 00:15:00 that offense at this point or third, because if we count Bijan, then he's in there too. So I feel like Pitts could have another stinker, but am I really going to start Hunter Henry, Sam Laporta, Zach Ertz, Njoku, who's been a dud for two weeks? If I'm going to start a guy that's got a low ceiling to begin with, I might as well just go with Pitts. It's an interesting dilemma
Starting point is 00:15:23 that every Kyle Pitts manager is going to have every week uh until further notice heath who do you want to avoid this week uh damian pierce absolutely terrified of his role of his efficiency he has not played even half of the snaps in a game yet i don't think houston's going to probably slow down jacksonville's offense so they're gonna be playing from behind again and then when he has touched the ball, it's been absolutely terrible. 2.6 yards per carry, 2.1 yards per target.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like it's not as if they could look at what's happened and think, you know, we should really do is get the ball to Damian Pierce more. Maybe this offensive line gets healthy a month from now or three weeks from now, then they'll get a little more healthy this week, I think. And so I don't,
Starting point is 00:16:04 it's not like I want to just give up on him for the year, but I'm not starting Damian Pierce until I see something positive. Would you like to know how many yards before contact per rush he's averaging so far this year? Well, if you're going to give that stat, it's got to be a rank, because I don't even know what a good number is. Okay, this is third lowest among running backs with at least 20 carries. That's what you need to know. Yeah, that's bad. It's minus 0.04 yards.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So on average, he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah, wow. All right, we got a lot of news and notes for you. We'll update you on Joe Burrow and Saquon Barkley. He's out. And more. And we've got a lot of podcasts for you as well. So check those out.
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Starting point is 00:17:12 and Monday night at 7.30 p.m. Eastern. Again, it's all at YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today. So we'll take a break, and when we come back, all of the news and notes, one question for each game, and then we'll break down
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Starting point is 00:18:21 Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. Jamie, I'm going to give you the quarterback news. Justin Fields says that he was robotic. He wasn't playing free enough. He pretty much blamed the coach. I think he kind of blamed the coaching, but he says he's going to go back. He walked it back. Right. I think this was music to fantasy managers ears, right, Jamie? Yes. Okay. More optimistic, hopefully, about Fields. I think this was music to fantasy managers ears, right? Jamie? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:46 More optimistic, hopefully about fields. I mean, look, start voicing your opinion. You know, they clearly made the investment in you when they made the draft pick trade, you know, saying that you're going to be our guy.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And if you're not happy with the way things are going, which why should you be? They lost what? 12 games in a row. And he looks awful out there for design runs. That's terrible. You know, so get him playing like him.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And that's going to think something that will help the offense. Look, this is going to be a nightmare situation for them going into, you know, arrowhead and trying to beat the chiefs. That's not going to happen, but you know, if he can show some signs of life or maybe the opposite, maybe he's terrible again and they make a coaching change because this is clearly not working. So something's got to change whether it's his play or just the coaching staff in general. So I don't mind him starting to express himself and say exactly what's on his mind.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Is now the time to buy Justin Fields? Yes. If you can buy low. Okay. Jamie, what's the latest on Joe Burrow? I mean, everything I keep hearing is he's feeling better. So we'll find out today what the practice report is.
Starting point is 00:19:47 My guess will be limited. So the question you have is, do you have a Thursday night guy versus Joe Burrow? So I would probably try and see if you can get Matthew Stafford. If you have to drop Daniel Jones, I would do that. But if you have Brock Purdy, like I have one of those leagues. I know you do, Adam, as well. I'm going to play Purdy because I think right now, Joe Burrow is not a hundred percent,
Starting point is 00:20:09 no matter what he says or how he feels or what happens going into Monday. So if he has a great game, you love to see it because you want to see him play like this moving forward. But at this point, it's just hard to trust. And I think Purdy's floor, which we've seen now six of seven games or seven of eight games uh 20 or more fantasy points as a starter in the regular season
Starting point is 00:20:30 you hang your hat on that and say okay i'll take my 20 if he can get there which i think he will so be it all right bryce young missed practice we got to keep an eye on that they're at seattle and anthony richardson still in the concussion protocol. Colts are at Baltimore. Dave, I'll give you the running back news. Saquon Barkley is out. So by the way, our two starting offensive linemen for the Giants, Andrew Thomas and Ben Bredesen and an edge rusher Aziz Ojolari. So they're playing tonight. Barkley is out and your interest in Matt Brita is? Minimal because I don't think he's going to see every single snap. They're going to use Gary Brightwell. They might use somebody else.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And I would guess that Daniel Jones is going to throw quite a bit against the 49ers. Lots of short, quick throws. They're getting a Wanda Robinson back for this game. And he's kind of an extension of the run game. Cause he's a short area target who can make guys miss after the catch. I think he could factor in a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't feel good about starting any giants running back. You guys don't, you don't feel good about Damian Pierce. Would you start Matt Breida over Damian Pierce? I am ready to roll with Damian Pierce over Matt Breida. Okay. Austin Eckler mispractice is a good chance. Josh Kelly gets another go today or this week.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I do too. I think he bounces back. He really didn't look terrible in week one. There's a couple of things that we can nitpick, but the biggest issue was tough matchup. Offensive line got decimated against Tennessee. Something to keep in mind with Jerome Ford this week. But he's got some juice to him.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Okay. Isaiah Pacheco mispracticed with a hamstring injury, so we'll keep an eye on that. But Clyde Edwards-Ziller might be a break glass in case of emergency guy for you. And Justice Hill could miss this week's game. So Gus Edwards against the Colts or Damian Pierce? I like Gus.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Okay. Wide receiver news, Heath. Wandale Robinson will play tonight. Should we stash him? He's 8% rostered. If you Wide receiver news, Heath. Wandale Robinson will play tonight. Should we stash him? He's 8% rostered. If you've got room, yeah. Like, deeper bench. He's not a six-man bench.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Brandon Ayuk is a game-time decision. What time should people tune in to youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today to learn about Brandon Ayuk? 7.30. That's right. DK Metcalf mispracticed, but he says he's okay. Christian Watson practiced. Doesn't mean he's going to play, but he did practice.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And running back note, Aaron Jones did not practice. Thursday and Friday are more important than the Wednesday practice report, so we'll just keep an eye on everything. Tank Dell mispracticed. Zay Jones mispracticed. Tyreek Hill was limited with an ankle. Jalen Waddell is still in the concussion protocol. We will talk about that game shortly.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Kadarius Toney, Heath, surprise, he has a toe injury and Richie James could miss some time as well. There's not really much to say there. We'll get to that game. Brandon Cooks returned to practice. He was limited. That's a good sign for him. Josh Reynolds has a groin injury. Please be okay. Mari Cooper missed practice. He should be alright.
Starting point is 00:23:21 You figured he wasn't going to practice on Wednesday. He had a second injury added to that. He's got a shoulder now as well, right? Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that. I thought it was the same injury. Yeah, it was listed with two different injuries. I don't know if he had two on the report last week, but it was the one he had last week and a shoulder. Okay, so that's Amari Cooper.
Starting point is 00:23:38 DeAndre Hopkins practice in full. As mentioned, he's at Cleveland. Tight end news. Dawson Knox mispractice. If he doesn't play, that might be a boost for Dalton Kincaid and Logan Thomas mispractice. On the offensive line, the Seahawks are still beat up. The Bears offensive line is kind of in shambles right now. Their left tackle Braxton Jones is on IR and could miss the season. We know the Texans are beat up. Miami getting good news with Teron Armstead practicing and hopefully trending in the right direction for Sunday. Minnesota, Christian Darasaw, their left tackle.
Starting point is 00:24:06 He was out last week, and he was limited in practice. That's good. Center, Garrett Bradbury, missed practice. Tennessee is going to be without, likely without, rookie offensive guard Peter Skowronski for their game at Cleveland, and two Colts offensive linemen. They're veterans.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Ryan Kelly and Quentin Nelson both missed practice. We'll keep an eye on that. Heath, I know you like Zach Moss. Yeah, you like Zach Moss. How big are those injuries going to be? And I think Nelson came back in week two, so I'm not shocked that he missed Wednesday's practice. But Ryan Kelly in the concussion protocol,
Starting point is 00:24:39 Quentin Nelson, we'll put a questionable tag on him. I don't like Zach Moss with those guys. Well, we'll get to that. Go ahead, Heath. That's okay. If those guys are not playing, yeah, I would significantly down Zach Moss. Okay, there we go.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And then defense stuff, Tariq Woolen for the Seahawks. He's likely out this week. Their secondary is pretty beat up right now. Might get healthier by the end of the week. Buffalo's got some key defensive injuries. Leonard Floyd, Jordan Phillips on the line, Terrell Bernard at linebacker, Micah Hyde.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I don't think they're serious, but we'll see. Patriots cornerback Marcus Jones mispractice. And I really think that Christian Gonzalez was not shadowing Tyreek Hill until Marcus Jones got hurt, and then they started shadowing Tyreek Hill with him, which is interesting as we look at what might happen with Garrett Wilson this week. A couple of... Oh, this is a big one.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Marcus May for the Saints. He's a safety who plays every snap. He is suspended for three games on one of the league's best defenses. They're at Green Bay this week, and they're also... Oh, no. Marcus Davenport's no longer on the Saints. He's on the Vikings. He missed practice.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Jeff Okuda could make his Falcons debut this week, cornerback facing the Lions, who traded him to the Falcons. And Houston safety Jimmy Ward practiced. One question for each game. Houston at Jacksonville. My question was, does Damian Pierce have his breakout game? I already know the answer to that. So, Heath, does Trevor Lawrence have his breakout game?
Starting point is 00:26:11 I would not expect that, no. I think he'll have a fine game. He'll be a top-12 startable quarterback, but I wouldn't expect a huge monster game against Houston. Rams are at the Bengals. If Joe Burrow does not play who is the highest ranked wide receiver in this game Puka
Starting point is 00:26:30 can we do that do people do that for him do what you know like Muth does everybody agree Puka would be the highest? I don't know if I can go there. Probably.
Starting point is 00:26:51 All right. I definitely can't do that in non-PPR. PPR, maybe. Maybe. Man, you know, to have to make these decisions for a Monday night game really stinks. What does it stink like? Or maybe it's too, too at well. They have a lot of oohs in their receiving core, huh?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Matthew. Cooper Cup. What a blast it must be to go to a Rams game. If you don't know Burrow's status and you have to decide... But you're not benching Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins unless you just loaded. I wouldn't... I don't know about that. I'm not benching Chase, but Higgins?
Starting point is 00:27:35 I think he's benchable if Jake Browning's the quarterback. You're making it seem like Tee Higgins is a slouch. He's still... Right. And all Jake Browning has to do is not screw it up. And Joe Burrow has basically been screwing it up for six of the last eight quarters. He's played. When you look at Skylar Thompson with the Dolphins receivers last year, when you looked
Starting point is 00:27:57 at, I think it was Trevor Simeon a couple of years ago with Justin Jefferson and the whole thing. We're seeing it now. It's Zach Wilson and Garrett Wilson. Exactly. So I don't think you can just shrug off the idea that T. Higgins is benchable if a guy who's made one career pass
Starting point is 00:28:10 and has been a practice squad player for most of his career is the starting quarterback. I mean, I wouldn't even shrug off the idea that Chase is benchable. I'm not going to tell anyone to bench Chase. But in the situation that you're describing, unless we know Sunday that Joe Burrow is out, you're taking the chance with those guys
Starting point is 00:28:24 and just living with the consequences because of who they are uh okay I mean Heath do you agree I can't imagine sitting one of those guys because Joe Burrow might not play when they might still be the guy who scores the touchdown if Joe Burrow plays so I'll be starting Higgins and Chase I guess where the touchdown at Burrow doesn't play too. I guess the scenario you could maybe have like Puka's easy because you've seen now two games of what he is. Would you sit Higgins or Chase? For me, the answer is 1000% no for two,
Starting point is 00:28:55 two at well, if he's on your bench. No, probably not. But would you, and I like to, too, but not saying,
Starting point is 00:29:01 but that's still, would you do it for Raheem Mostert? Would I do it for, but I'm talking about, we're making a decision on Monday. No, but if you have, but that's still. Would you do it for Raheem Mostert? Would I do it for... But I'm talking about we're making the decision on Monday. No, but if you have to... I'm not saying the decision isn't hard on Monday. The decision is hard on Sunday when you don't know if Burrow's going to play in theory.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Again, if I don't know Burrow's playing, then I'm going to assume he's playing unless we hear differently. We should get an indication of what his practice status is by Saturday. If he's limited all throughout the week, then yeah, you got some questions. But I guess there's the other Monday night game too. So you can maybe make a decision on Chris Godwin or those guys because Mike Evans is easy.
Starting point is 00:29:34 So if you have Godwin and one of the Bengals guys, do you sit him for Godwin in a two-receiver league? Yeah, you could do that. But again, you might be missing out on the unknown of what Jake Browning is. Maybe he still just throws some Hail Marys and those guys get some passes. We saw it with Garrett Wilson this past weekend. It takes one 71-yard slant route and the defender falls down and you're okay. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Let's say Joe Burrow were out for the season and we were redrafting. What round would you take Tee Higgins in? Didn't you ask this Tuesday? I think four. Let's do it again. What, four? I might go later than four. And Chase would be two.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, four or five. Yeah, to me, that's not a must-start player. So I think it is an interesting decision. I mean, you're talking about DeAndre Hopkins and DJ Moore were drafted in that range, you know what I mean? And people are going to ask questions about those guys. Can I have a quick word on Jake Browning?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. I'm not going to act like I know every detail about his college career, but he was a four-year starter at Washington, completed well over 60% of his throws. One year was amazing. 43 touchdowns, nine interceptions. His last year wasn't as good. I think when I said competent passer, I think that applies here. And so a guy who knows what the offense is
Starting point is 00:30:51 and what you're asking him to do, I don't think he can make big plays like Burrow can, but I think he's functional, and that'll help the receivers hopefully be at least as good as they've been. Maybe not in the case of Higgins last week, but certainly better than Higgins in week one. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Denver at Miami. Does Javante Williams have his breakout game, Heath? You know, I think the Broncos are going to be feisty in this game. It's a must-win game. They're 0-2, and they've got a point differential of negative three. And so I think Javante Williams is a starter. I don't know if I'd call it a breakout, but I think he'll be a top 24 running back.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Indianapolis at Baltimore, Jamie. Michael Pittman or Zay Flowers? Zay Flowers. I think we've seen enough of this Colts secondary to know that Flowers has a chance for a huge breakout game. Not that he didn't have one already in week one, but you saw some of the flaws for Pittman despite the targets you know so he could have a 7 for 50 game again when you take out the 39 yard screen pass that
Starting point is 00:31:52 he scored on in week one so given the uh opponents for each of them I would go with Zay Flowers Chicago's at Kansas City starter sit DJ, Dave? He's like on the fence of a low-end number two, high-end number three receiver for me. If Fields is talking like he needs to play free, I think Jamie nailed it. We're trying to get him
Starting point is 00:32:13 to run more. I think he will run more. That means fewer throws all the way around. I'd be a little hesitant with DJ Moore in this matchup. I'd rather start Zay. I'd rather start Nico.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It'd be interesting to see if LeJarrius Sneed shadows him because that's what happened with Calvin Ridley last week and Sneed won that one. Tennessee at Cleveland. Sneed, by the way, limited in practice on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Do we actually like Deshaun Watson this week? Raise your hand if you like Deshaun Watson this week. DeShazer, you giving up? No hands. I'm not giving up, but I'm certainly putting it on pause.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But this, I mean, Tennessee is a very nice matchup here. We also can't forget he scored like 23 points in week one because he had 45 rushing yards and a touchdown. He's still capable of that. But does anyone like Watson this week? Not particularly, but I wouldn't probably go streaming, you know, for replacements. Like if you have Jared Goff or Gino Smith, clearly Kirk cousins, you know, you're playing those guys over Deshaun this week, the Shazer this week.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But, um, I have a question for you. If you're redrafting right now, you, would you be taking Deshaun Watson or the trash fantasy quarterback you claimed to Anthony Richardson? Hot garbage, I would take over him. So, wait. Oh, Thursday night guys or Deshaun Watson? I have Watson over them.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I would go Watson over Daniel Jones. I can't trust him in that game. Yeah, I'm going Jones over them. I would go Watson over Daniel Jones. I can't trust him in that game. Yeah, I'm going Jones over Watson. What about Purdy? Not because I'm trusting him. I just don't want to start Daniel. Deshaun Watson. Purdy?
Starting point is 00:33:55 I could be chalked into Purdy over Watson. Okay. All right. Pittsburgh at Las Vegas. Are we going right back to George Pickens? Yeah. 100%. As a flex, number two.
Starting point is 00:34:07 All right, Dave's a little lower on that. We'll talk about that later. New England at the Jets, is Ramondre Stevenson the only good start in this game? Yes. I don't even think he's a particularly good start. But he's the best one. He's a good start by default
Starting point is 00:34:25 at running back i mean you can't sit him for pretty much anybody i think garrett wilson's still in the flex talk if the weather holds up there's already talk that uh or the forecast i should say is not looking good looks like i don't know thunderstorm zach wilson's always there i i'm getting a little tired honestly Honestly, I'm a little tired. Poop storm, poop storm, poop storm. I'm getting a little tired of good weather during the week and crappy weather on the weekends here. It's starting to, it's starting to get to me. All right. Why don't you do something about it? You know what? The government needs to do something about it, Dave. But Michael Pittman, Zay Flowers, Garrett Wilson. Who's the best in that group?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Zay. Pittman. Pittman, Zay, and who? Wilson. Garrett Wilson. Oh, the other two guys over Garrett Wilson. Really? So sad.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I'll take Wilson over Pittman. All right. Houston is at Jacksonville. Let's get started here. The Texans are 0-2. Week one, they lost 25-9. And week two, they lost 31-20, but they trailed 31-10 going into the fourth quarter. So they've been throwing the ball a ton.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Just real quick here, is anybody interested in starting C.J. Stroud? Superflex. Yes. Okay. Not really even there. You guys are sitting Damian Pierce, but you're starting him over Matt Breida. Sorry if I can't remember who I asked. Did I ask Gus Edwards or Damian Pierce, but you're starting him over Matt Breida. Sorry if I can't
Starting point is 00:35:46 remember who I asked. Did I ask Gus Edwards or Damian Pierce? You did. And you said Gus, right? Beep, beep. That's if Justice Hill is out? Only if Justice Hill is out? That's only if Justice Hill is out, but it sounds like he has turf toe. Couldn't miss several weeks, and they just
Starting point is 00:36:02 brought back... They brought Melvin Gordon off the practice squad, and then they took his spot and gave it to Kenyon Drake. So it sounds like Justice Hill will not play. Heath, how do you feel about you would also start Gus over Pierce? Probably. I had Pierce one spot ahead of Gus.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I'm curious how much of the work that was going to Justice Hill will go to Gus. I'm sure a few of the carries, they never thrown the ball to him. So I would assume those targets are going to go to Zay Flowers or Kenyon Drake. I don't know if Drake's even going to play. But Zay Flowers, I 100% agree with.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Mark Andrews, too. All right, so why are we starting with this game? Well, I think there's some pretty interesting starter-sit decisions. Heath, you can talk about it first, but the wide receivers. I mean, everyone's going to start Ridley, but then who's the next best wide receiver with Kirk coming off a big game with Collins off to an amazing start. Who's the next best wide receiver
Starting point is 00:36:53 in this game? If Zay Jones plays, then I think Nico is probably the next best wide receiver. And Kirk would be a high end number three. Nico would be a low end number two. If Zay Jones is out, then I think you're starting Ridley, you're starting Kirk, and you're starting Nico Collins. And Tank Dell is a fun flex. Maybe even a number three wide receiver, if you consider that there's 40 or 45 number threes instead of just 36. But yeah, you might have three pretty close
Starting point is 00:37:23 to must-start wide receivers if Zay Jones is out. If Zay Jones is in, is anybody worried about Christian Kirk? If you think about their game scripts the first two weeks and Kirk not playing as much week one and playing a lot and having a big game week two. I think I saw that the Texans run an even higher rate of man than the Chiefs. And if that's the case, then I would not be worried about Christian Kirk because he's been awesome against man. I would still go Collins over Kirk, but I think Kirk is a number two receiver this week. I agree with Collins over Kirk, and the Texans are starting a new slot corner
Starting point is 00:37:59 because their old slot corner is hurt for this week. There's a favorable matchup there. It's just a matter of volume. How much throwing are the Jaguars going to do? Right, that's the thing, right? So last year, the Texans gave up, I've said this a million times, I'm sorry, the Texans gave up the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:38:15 and maybe the fewest, fourth fewest, something like that, to wide receivers, because everyone ran all over them. And even Lawrence didn't have a good game against them. He was fine in one game, but... Well, no, he wasn't. He didn't score a touchdown, but he left the game early
Starting point is 00:38:29 because they were blowing them out. But that was always the thing. It was not a good matchup for quarterbacks because the running backs had such big games. Run defense has been a lot better this year so far for Houston. But, I mean, is that a concern with Trevor Lawrence and with these wide receivers?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Is this a trap? They're going to maybe blow this team out and run the ball at will with them. Is anyone concerned about that prospect? Yep, a little bit. The one thing that I keep in the back of my mind is that the Jaguars were so close to winning last week and there were a bunch of almost touchdowns in that game
Starting point is 00:39:00 that maybe Jacksonville says, all right, let's get back on the right track and throw a few more touchdowns, try to throw a few more touchdowns against Houston. But there, there could be a case where they're two and a half quarters into this game and they're up two touchdowns and they kind of pull it back a little bit. I mean, they were the Texans defense to be fair, run defense. Wasn't so great against Zach Moss last week. They were pretty good against the Ravens in week one. Evan Ingram feels like an easy start, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:33 ETN is a stud this week, I assume. I didn't even check the rankings. You're starting him. Any interesting... Top 12. There we go. Bigsby? Anyone? I mean, you saw week one he played when there was a lead. Will he play again with a lead?
Starting point is 00:39:47 So desperation, sure. But any semblance of confidence? No. Yeah, they're nine-point favorites here. Okay, anything else in this game? I guess I could do some like Nico Collins. Nico Collins or Brandon Ayuk if he plays tonight? Nico.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Nico. Nico or Debo? Debo. Debo. Same. Okay. I think we're good here. Let's just do Damian Pierce
Starting point is 00:40:18 or Jahan Dotson. Dotson. Dotson, PPR, Damian Nunn. I might go Damian. All right. That was so random. I don't even know why I picked that.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I guess, okay, we're starting Cousins over Lawrence this week? Yes. Cousins top five. Tua or Trevor Lawrence? Tua. I agree. Golf two. Golf over Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I agree. I'm not there yet. Okay. All right, next game. Oh, Jacksonville DST is good, not great. Kind of like low-end number one. CJ Stroud's been sacked 11 times in two games, so that bodes well for Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:41:00 The Rams are at the Bengals. Stat of the game. Cincinnati has run the fourth fewest plays in the NFL and the Rams have run the most plays in the NFL. Also for Cincinnati, not only do they have the fourth fewest plays run, they have the third lowest run rate. That's why Joe Mixon,
Starting point is 00:41:16 despite getting pretty much every carry, he has 13 carries, I think in both games. Yeah. So they're just not, not a lot of opportunities for him. Uh, all right,
Starting point is 00:41:24 we start with the Rams here. So let me get the updated rankings on Stafford, but it looks like very different here. Heath, you have Stafford 24th, Dave 21, and Jamie 16. So you're the high guy on Stafford. Not exactly a starter, but startable. Your thoughts, Jamie? I mean, at some point he's going to have a multiple touchdown game. We'll find out if this is the week,
Starting point is 00:41:48 but he's thrown the ball 45 times a game in the first two games. His receivers are playing great, and so just a little bit of lack of luck at this point. So as long as he doesn't get turnover happy, and we saw a little bit last week where he was trying to throw as many interceptions as he could. One of them was not his fault off Kyron Williams hands but um I don't think he's going to uh barring Joe Burrow being out I don't think the offensive game plan changes you know so if the Bengals offense is completely inept and they're having success running the ball then his pass attempts will come down but him in this matchup, throwing the ball 40-plus times, I think he's a decent streamer if you're stuck.
Starting point is 00:42:27 He's a great guy to stash just if you have Joe Burrow because you don't want to go the Jake Browning route. So in one league where I have Burrow, I just pick up Stafford, and I'll play that out Monday night. So, again, volume matters here. He's one of two quarterbacks with over 300 yards passing per game on the season. So I think he'll have another 300-yard game, and I think he'll get that second touchdown.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Okay. Stafford or Jordan Love? Stafford for me. I'll take Love. But we're not starting him over fields. No. Yeah, we're not going crazy here. All right, Kyron Williams. top 13 in ppr for everyone
Starting point is 00:43:08 top 18 in non-ppr yep um huge opportunity that's all there is here he's give me three running backs you'd start kyron williams over uh damian pierce matt brita no Rwanda Stevenson oh Dave and Jamie are not there right right no
Starting point is 00:43:29 I would start Kyron over Stevenson and PPR oh okay I wouldn't I'll start him over ETN I'll start him over Miles Sanders
Starting point is 00:43:40 I'll start him over Khalil Herbert over ETN yeah I'll start him over Khalil Herbert. Over ETN. Yeah, I'll start him over ETN and PPR. That's not a big deal. I would start him over ETN too. Wow. Non-PPR is different, but full PPR, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:54 No way. I don't think I could do that. I mean, first of all, ETN is scary. Look, you've got a running back that's now going to dominate touches in a backfield that, I mean, we've talked so much about Kyron Williams and how he might not be the most talented guy, but he's just getting opportunities. And that's the number one thing in fantasy. I will say the one thing that, and we talked about this, I think it was, it must've been yesterday, about the Rams total number of offensive plays and the regression
Starting point is 00:44:20 that's coming there. Kyron Williams has 12 targets through two games. He also has a 12.9% target share. They throw 93 passes in two games. I think you probably are looking at more like 35 passes a game, which is more like three or four targets a game moving forward. What's crazy is they're not even in the top 10 in pass rate this year. It's because they're running so many offensive plays. That's not going to continue. Right. 156. They're not playing fast and they're not high in pass rate,
Starting point is 00:44:50 which means you shouldn't expect a high pass volume, even though there has been one so far. Look, I'm going to really have to spend too much. I don't think many people are deciding between ETN and Kyron Williams, but I mean, who's the better player? Who's got the better matchup? The only thing Kyron does have a better role. Yeah, but ETN still has a great role. I mean, ETN runs all
Starting point is 00:45:05 the routes basically still super involved. So I don't know. All right. Surprising. Surprising. I agree with you, Adam.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Good team. Team. What did we call ourselves? He had him. I don't know. Do we have a do we have a celebrity?
Starting point is 00:45:20 I don't think we had a name. We've never agreed before in the history of the show. So there was no need for a team name. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Team agree to disagree. Okay, the reason why this game is featured so early in the show is because of Pukunikua. Man. Start Pukunikua. When you cough, you cover your whole face most people just cover their mouth i'm just but doesn't mute his mic i can't even poor guy why don't you go get some seltzer yeah
Starting point is 00:45:55 what who's who's next on our list who needs a lacroix now okay i moved my mixer and i couldn't even reach the cough button and And I'm just so embarrassed at this point. It's been like two weeks. I mean, there's no cough drops within a mile of where you are? Yeah, I think we're supposed to just take the show over. Okay, fine. Talk about Puka Nakua and Tutu Atwell. How in the world do you sit Puka Nakua at this point?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Keep going. You can't see. How many world do you sit pooping the coup at this point? I don't think either of these guys are going to hack up bad numbers in the matchup against Cincinnati. And in the case of Atwell, almost 15 PPR points each of the first two games. Very excited about using him this week, because I think the Rams are still going to continue to throw at a decent rate. Yeah, I think that's why I'm maybe just lower on Atwell and Stafford is I don't think they're going to continue to run 75 plays a game.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And so Atwell's target share at a normal volume is not that exciting. What would it be? How many targets would you expect if they throw 50 times or play 50 snaps? Obviously, they're not throwing 50 times. I've got them projected for like 63 63 snaps which is right in the middle that's six six targets at his current rate yeah that feels low i wouldn't feel good about him if he's only going to get six targets in the game yeah i think a lot of it depends on if burrow plays if burrow doesn't play this could be kind of low scoring but i still have Atwell in the flex range. I like him better than Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I like him better than Michael Thomas. I don't know about Pickens. I know you guys are more excited about him. We'll talk about that game later. How do you feel, Jamie? Atwell? Nakua? We haven't really talked Nakua. Is that just because he's a must-start? Start him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Must-start guy. I'm good now. Thank you, Dave. Tutu is 40th for me. So as he said, there's like 45 number three receivers. He's still a number three receiver because it's hard to overlook what he's done the first two games. I don't think they're necessarily going to slow down if Joe Burrow's there because I think we'll still see a potential shootout because I don't really buy this Rams defense playing the way that's played. So I think if Burrow is close to healthy, we're going to get a high scoring. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Uh, sit Tyler Higbee, Cincinnati struggling against tight ends, but Higbee is just struggling. All right. Uh, for Burrow, if Burrow plays,
Starting point is 00:48:18 where do you anticipate you'll rank him? 11th. Yep. Right in that range. Okay. You'd still rank him ahead of Stafford, Jamie? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, I'm not going to play Stafford if Burrow's out there. Start Joe Mixon and... We have Burrow ranked right now. Oh, I'm sorry. I should have... Where do you have him, Heath? 11? We're all in the same range.
Starting point is 00:48:41 11 or 12? Yeah. The one I would really struggle with if Burrow got a full practice in the same range. 11 or 12? Yeah. The one I would really struggle with if Burrow got a full practice in would be Lawrence. All right, we'll keep everyone posted throughout the week. So, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins,
Starting point is 00:48:54 I think we already had this discussion here, but there'll be much better starts if Joe Burrow plays. And Sid Irv Smith, would you start a DST in this game? It's kind of an interesting prospect at this point. I would start the Rams if there is no Joe Burrow. I mean, they've struggled with Burrow.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Okay. Ready for the Vic Fangio revenge game? Yeah, buddy. Here it is. Denver's at Miami. Not the Bradley Chubb revenge game? Well, you know, it's interesting because Sean Payton— Not the Patrick Stanton Jr. versus his father's old team game?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Oh, no, that's a nice storyline. The Broncos, Sean Payton wanted to hire Vic Fangio, and he didn't, and right now their defensive coordinator, Vance Joseph, is coming under a lot of heat. Vance Joseph revenge game. Oh, yeah. And I read this in The Athletic. The Broncos lead the NFL with 12 defensive penalties. Seven have come on third or fourth down. They've also, according in The Athletic. The Broncos lead the NFL with 12 defensive penalties.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Seven have come on third or fourth down. They've also, according to The Athletic, they've been particularly bad against screen passes. We'll see if the Dolphins implement that. And they're giving up a lot of big plays right now. So, you know, last year, this was one of the best defenses in football. They're not playing like it right now.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I want to give it to me, what is a very concerning stat of the game. Jerry Judy lined up in the slot 74.4% of his snaps last week. I hate that. Why? Because he's better out wide
Starting point is 00:50:17 and if you look at his best games last year, not all of them but they coincided with his higher out wide rates. When he, when he, when his games where he was out wide the most, he was like a lock for 70 yards. It wasn't that many games, but I don't, I just don't like him being confined to the slot. Um, it's hasn't, to me, it hasn't really been great for him in his career when that's been the case. And that was a really high snap, uh, slot rate, 75% almost. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Anybody else share that concern, or we just want to see it play out, or what do we do with you? I think it means that he needs a lot of volume, certainly more than last week if he's going to come through for fantasy managers. I do think that he didn't even play the whole game. He was on and off the field. I think he plays almost the whole game this week,
Starting point is 00:51:02 and the matchup is better for him in the slot against the Dolphins, to be honest. And I could see him getting five, six catches and getting close to 15 PPR points. I think he's a flex play.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I don't really know, Heath, what to make of the Broncos. You seem to be the most optimistic, at least with Russell Wilson. You have him around 12th. Dave and Jamie are sitting Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And Jamie's making where he most are at the start of the week. And it appears pretty high on the Dolphins. But what are we to make of the Broncos right now? Because as you mentioned on yesterday's show, Russell Wilson is QB3 so far. Yeah, and I don't think he's probably going to be QB3 this week. But I think this goes one of two ways. Either I'm right and the Broncos are chippy and this is a very close game.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Or the Dolphins score a bunch of points through the air. And then Russell Wilson and the broncos are chippy and this is a very close game or the dolphins score a bunch of points through the air and then russell wilson and the broncos are chasing points in the second half and still have a decent day so i don't i don't mind i don't i'm not fearing this dolphins defense um and i do think the first couple of weeks for the broncos offense is fairly encouraging i definitely definitely agree with that. It's clearly encouraging. I think you're going to get closer to what you got from Russ in week one by far than what you got in week two. This is definitely their toughest opponent that they played. Again, first road game after two straight home games. I think the weather is going to be an impact for, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:18 how this Broncos team operates. You know, again, playing in this heat in September is a different animal for these teams when they haven't experienced it. And so we'll, we'll find out. Um, I, I think Fangio will make things uncomfortable for, for Wilson. And I just, I, I, I'm not ready to trust him yet. I agree. So I'm with you on that one.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's fine. Good. Russ is QB three on the season. Heath. Yep. I believe that's accurate. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah. Okay. He had a 60 yard touchdown last week and a 50 yard Hail Mary. That's 33% of his total fantasy points on those two plays. Yeah. I mean, I don't really want to take necessarily away the long touchdown to Mims,
Starting point is 00:52:59 but the Hail Mary was ridiculous. He scored 10 and a half points on the final drive of the game last week. He ran the ball twice for big chunks. He had 78 yards and a touchdown passing and 14 rushing yards. I think it was maybe just one run. 10.5 points on the last drive. But nobody's saying he's a must-start or anything.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I would also be curious what percentage of Tua's points have come on as two biggest plays to Tyreek through two games. If you've had a couple of big plays in two games, that's going to be a large percentage of your fantasy points. Right, but those big plays to Tyreek, we've seen that happen not every single game, but way more often than Russell Wilson unloading the Marvin Banners. I disagree. We've got an extensive history of Russell Wilson hitting monster shots downfield. Yeah, fine. But when you consider starting Russell Wilson, do you bake that in as something that he can do every week? I don't know if we, after last year, I don't know if we can say that anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Not the Hail Mary, right? He's, I mean, but, but the other thing, the volleyball Hail Mary, you can't count on. You cannot count on that. But I do think like we came into this year and Adam in particular,, maybe the Broncos from Russell Wilson will just go back to being what we were hoping they would be with Sean Payton there. And the first two weeks have been encouraging. Yeah, I don't want to poo-poo it either because he has been better this year than last year, and hopefully he keeps it up.
Starting point is 00:54:17 But I don't want to overrate him based on what we've seen, but based on what he did last week on two plays. Yeah, I mean, I'm starting him over Daniel. I don't want to overrate him based on what we've seen, but based on what he did last week on two plays. Yeah. I mean, I'm starting him over Daniel Heath. We're starting him over Daniel Jones, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah. We have a super flex decision there. I mean, if those are your choices, sure. Yeah. All right. What about,
Starting point is 00:54:36 uh, Javon? Like, is there a must start for the Broncos? No. Javante by default, just because of what the running back position looks like, but I don't want to trust him.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I mean, he hasn't really shown anything overwhelming in two games that says he's back and this team is going to lean on him. So based on what the, what the situation is for him. No. Who's a better start Javante or Judy. Javante.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I have to decide between Judy and DJ more. who's a better start, Javante or Judy? Javante. Judy. I have to decide between Judy and DJ Moore. I'm going to make the wrong call every week. Every week I'm going to screw that up. Last week I lost because of that decision. What would you guys do? Judy or Moore? Schaefer's all excited because that was a leaky trade to be more in.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I would play Moore. I have Moore ranked higher as well. Yeah, I think I've got him 29 and 30. I would flip a coin. excited because that was a leaky trade to be more in i would play more i have more right yeah i think i've got them 29 and 30 i would flip a coin oh maybe i'll do that uh sit adam troutman and let's go to the dolphins tua is a must start he is the lowest uh among anyone is seven their four main guys are must starts like who's benching any of those guys uh well i don't? Well, I don't think people are going to approach Mostert that way necessarily. That's fine. That's fair. But they should for this week. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And I will be interested to see with Mostert and what the Broncos choose to do because so far against the run, what are they giving up? Three and a half yards per carry? One of those was against maybe a terrible player at this point josh jacobs yeah well yeah i'd be surprised if josh jacobs is now a terrible player but he could be well i mean through two weeks he hasn't exactly looked great against you know two defenses that are that are fairly competent maybe um but yeah no i'm joking clearly but uh i i think you just look at what their two weeks of production against has been.
Starting point is 00:56:27 You know, I think a better offense than the Raiders, the commanders. Brian Robinson ran through them. And Raheem Mostert has a chance to do the same. You know, he's going to get – he's played 73% of the snaps each of the first two weeks. And now Savan Ahmed may not play. So are they going to just put Devon A-chain on the field more and trust him? Or are they just going to give M or more of an opportunity here? So there's a chance for him, you know, not to necessarily get the Zach Moss workload, which if, if that's the thing you're
Starting point is 00:56:53 hanging your hat on, I don't understand from Zach Moss perspective. Like I think most of it's in a much better situation. So I would, I would start him over Moss, for example, if we're looking at that. Um, I would start him over Jerome Ford, if we're looking at that. I would start him over Jerome Ford if we're looking at that. You know, those two guys in particular. But Mostert's been good from a production standpoint in week one because he scored, and that's really the only thing that saved him in week one. But week two, you saw what the upside could be if teams are going to say, okay, run on us. And they did.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Right. And by the way, Mostert had just as many carries as Moss last week. But listen, Heath, we're going to talk about Colts and Ravens because Heath is the high guy on, on Moss. So we'll get into that in a moment. We've got to go to break here,
Starting point is 00:57:33 but would, if Jalen Waddle were out, would it change anything for you for Tua or Mostert? For Tua? Yes. He would probably drop a few spots, but I'd still be starting him for Mostert? For Tua, yes. He would probably drop a few spots, but I'd still be starting him. For Mostert, no.
Starting point is 00:57:50 No, I don't think I'd probably move Mostert. And I'm not anti-Mostert. I've got him 18th. Yeah. All right, let's take a break, guys. When we come back, Colts are at the Ravens. Give me a three-second answer. Do you like a DST, by the way, Miami or Denver?
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Starting point is 00:59:13 Heath is much higher than Dave and Jamie on both Zach Moss and Michael Pittman. That's kind of how we approach this. We're expecting Gardner Mincher to be the quarterback right now. But, Heath, you have Zach Moss as a top 10 running back. At least you did yesterday. Yeah, I'm trying to lower him a little bit. And I'll just give the full
Starting point is 00:59:31 Zach Moss spiel, because there's been plenty of anti-Zach Moss. We speculated before last week that this whole idea of a committee might go away because of how bad Deion Jackson was. No other running back touched the football for the Colts last week. He had four catches. I think Minshew probably contributed to that. Minshew's going to dump the ball off to the running backs quite a bit more. He was actually
Starting point is 00:59:52 good last week. He was fifth so far in the league in terms of Adam's favorite running back stat avoid rate. Deion Jackson currently has a 0% avoid rate. He has not avoided a tackle yet this season. So I do think the full complement of touches going to Zach Moss is something that's going to continue. He has nine games in his career with at least 14 touches. He's scored at least 12 fantasy points in seven of those nine games. He's averaged 13.5 fantasy points in those games. When he's gotten the work, he's generally delivered.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I know he's not a spectacular running back but i also don't think that he's in this slug backup position either he was a third round pick and he has produced when he's been given the opportunity okay they were playing with a huge lead last week they're playing against a much tougher opponent this week i mean this could be a bloodbath for him so yeah, yeah, I'm almost completely out. Yep. Ceiling has been 13 PPR points or 10 non-PPR points through two games against Baltimore. That's the Texans running backs and the Bengals running backs.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Ravens D-line's been strong. Linebackers have been playing great. They're in the top eight in runs of five-plus yards allowed, runs of 10-plus yards allowed. They've only allowed one of those this year. And in yards after contact per rush allowed. And, Adam, missed tackles. They're a sound fundamental defense that might be able to take advantage of Moss playing behind the line without two starters.
Starting point is 01:01:18 If they don't have two starters, I will be lowering Moss considerably. Now, I do like that Moss had better metrics with Minshew than Richardson last week. I think that that's also a huge factor. If Richardson comes back, I think it makes it real easy to get away from Moss. And if he's not, then maybe you could look at Moss as a number two type running back.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Okay. I mean, Moss did have four catches last week. So even if they are getting blown out, maybe it stays in the game script a little bit. All right, Minshew, while we do like him, if we were playing and had an easier matchup, we're not really starting him this week. He's not in the top 20, and maybe he might be 20th.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Michael Pittman is another guy, Heath, that you're higher on, though, because I think you have him 21st in non-PPR and 14th in full PPR, and he's not a top 24 wide receiver for for Dave and Jamie yeah I think he's one of the true alpha number one wide receivers in the NFL right now 23 targets to through two games probably going to be more pass volume with Minshew playing than there would be with Richardson there won't be as many scramble attempts if I if I've got a guy projected for double-digit targets, he's going to rank as a top 20 wide receiver. You know what?
Starting point is 01:02:28 I'm on Team Heath here. Who can even remember at this point? But once upon a time, I was pretty low on Anthony Richardson. I know. True story. Wow. I thought, you know, he's not even going to play 17 games. They're going to pull him for Gardner Minshew.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I should probably get more Michael Pittman because I would really like Michael Pittman if Gardner Minshew were the quarterback. And, you know, and the Ravens secondary is super injured. So I think I'm, you know, I'm feeling good about starting him this week. Dave, Jamie, any chance he creeps into your top 24? No, but this is, I'll say the same thing I've said
Starting point is 01:03:04 for a long time. There's not 24 number two wide receivers, you know, so he's still got a chance to be double digits in targets. He still has a chance to have a seven for 55 type of game, you know, so 12 to 14 PPR points, if he doesn't score, I think is well within the realm of possibility.
Starting point is 01:03:20 So yeah, I just, like to me, he's Michael Thomas at this point, you know, going to get a lot of targets, a lot of opportunities and not a lot with it. Right. That's the issue. And look, Minshew played a little bit more than a half last week. Pittman had 10 targets with him. That's a great sign, but I feel like we know what Pittman is at this point, which is a lot of volume and not a lot of efficiency. You need to get a little lucky and you need to hope he gets targeted in the end zone. I think it's hard to say that when he scored 23 points in week one.
Starting point is 01:03:51 We're just one week removed from him scoring 23 points. Remember how we scored 10 of them. By making a really good play? Sure. A screen and then running straight ahead. He had good blockers. It was a good play. I'm not going to take it away from the Colts. It was a good play,
Starting point is 01:04:03 but usually when a wide receiver catches a screen, they don't have a jailbreak like that. I mean, it was, it was uncharacteristic for him. As I said, it was longer than any catch he had the year before, but I swear,
Starting point is 01:04:14 I really think that he might be playing with the best quarterback this week that he's ever played with. If it's Minshew, there's no question, right? If it's Minshew, the best ever, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Maybe not, but like this year, I think Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan might have something to say. The best ever? I don't know. Maybe not. But this year? I think Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan might have something to say about that. No, I mean, at that stage in their careers, I'm sorry, it's awkward to say, but he didn't have great quarterback play in his NFL career so far. And now he's got Gardner Minshew. I mean, Minshew's been good for receivers, though.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Minshew really has produced good fantasy receivers. He gave us a great DJ Chark season. Obviously, the Eagles guys were terrific with him. So, yeah, all right. I think Dallas Goddard had a two-touchdown game a couple years ago, like 100 yards. So, all right, anyway. Lamar Jackson was so good last week, and he's a top-four quarterback.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Start him. Andrews is a start. So, assuming Justice Hill is out, Jamie, where are you ranking Gus Edwards? Top 24 non-PPR, just outside of that, and full PPR. The question will become
Starting point is 01:05:20 is, do they actually let him play on passing downs and give him some chances in the passing game? Probably not many. But game script should matter here because now he should get even more carries, especially if they're playing with a lead because the Colts are probably going to lose. And so does he get a 20-carry game here?
Starting point is 01:05:39 So for him, based on his career yards per carry, that could be a very impressive performance, but I just buy into the amount of work that he should be able to get. And hopefully some of those goal line opportunities that have been disappearing for him, which was a little bit of a surprise since JK Dobbins has been out. So I would not be surprised if he scored, it would not be surprised if he gets 80 yards rushing, but it could be a trap game also, if he does not find the end. This, this will be a good test of your, uh, your Colts run defense, Adam. Yeah. find the end this this will be a good test of your uh your colts run defense adam yeah because yeah so far this season they've been just astonishingly good yeah 2.9 yards we'll see
Starting point is 01:06:12 if they can shut down the ravens yeah uh yeah but it's the ravens with gus edwards so i don't even know if this is that good of a test it's the best test so far well i don't know hold on a second no etn week one had an amazing fourth quarter against them right they've played one bad quarter of football i think they've got a good front seven yeah uh we jamie and dave like zay flowers as a number two receiver heath has him as a number three receiver and the ravens dst is a must start chicago's at kansas. Um, Heath hates a car. Yeah. I said to Heath earlier, I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:46 listen, I want to get more rankings disputes going, but it's weird because you're like the higher, the low guy. Every time I find a dispute. So Jamie was the high guy on Matthew Stafford. That's okay. He had one.
Starting point is 01:06:56 We've got to find one for Dave. Uh, Pickens. He's really low on Pickens. So that'll come. There we go. But for this game, Chicago,
Starting point is 01:07:03 Kansas city, the rankings difference I see is that you're much lower on isaiah pacheco than dave and jamie are and uh let's just see the rankings looks like you have them about 30th and dave and jamie dave has them 19th and jamie 23rd and you've got pacheco almost as a sit or as a flex we'll say you want to discuss uh yeah i just i and i get it Like the Bears defense is really bad. And so hopefully Isaiah Pacheco can, can do something he's done rarely in his NFL career, which is be worthy of a start in fantasy football. He is dominating running back touches for the chiefs. But I think Gibbs and I talked about this on Tuesday. He's like, man, I'm so encouraged by the fact he's
Starting point is 01:07:41 got like 83% of their running back rush attempts. That equals 10 to 11 carries a game in this Chiefs offense. And I don't know that being ahead against the Bears is necessarily going to change that. I wouldn't expect a huge volume, especially if he's nursing a hamstring injury now. He's probably going to catch two passes and have 11 carries, and you're hoping that he scores a touchdown. That's a flex to me. I've moved him down since you brought up my rankings. He's a low end RB to moved guys like Jerome for Josh Kelly,
Starting point is 01:08:12 even Najee ahead of Pacheco. And he might be playing hurt, might not even play. Okay. Right. Exactly. If he doesn't play, would anybody be interested in starting Clyde or desperation?
Starting point is 01:08:26 Number three, running back. I'd probably have him about the same place I have Pacheco. The stat of the game for this is about Pacheco. Dating back to last year, the Bears have now allowed 19 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in six of their last eight games, including Rashad White last week.
Starting point is 01:08:42 We know it's a great matchup, but the concerns have been laid out. Is he the best running back in this game, Pacheco? Yes. I'd rather start Herbert. I'll take Pacheco if he plays. That doesn't mean you really want to start Herbert, right? No.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah. No. So Fields is right around 12th for you guys. You like Goff over Fields. You like Geno over Fields. What about Dak Prescott at Arizona or Justin Fields? Dak for me. I feel like Dak's safer.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I think he can get you somewhere in that 20 to 24 point range. I'm not ready to say Fields has upside to be better than that yet just because he said that he wants to play more free. So he's right behind him. But those comments did make me move him up because I think he will run more. Yeah, I moved him back into my top 12 with those comments. And I didn't take that as necessarily him crapping on his coaches.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You can't be thinking about what the coach is saying while you're playing football. He's just going to play more instinctually. It's good. Yeah. Well, it's good for him. It's not necessarily good for DJ Moore, as we've already outlined. You guys don't
Starting point is 01:09:48 love him this week. Pittman or Moore? I know it's obviously Pittman for Heath. How about for Dave and Jamie, Pittman or DJ Moore? Moore. Moore, but to me, they're very similar. Okay. Colcomette, Heath.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Are we going to make a case to start colcomette um he's a tight end who's earning a 20 target share playing so yeah okay he's in that in that startable range all right uh you are the high guy on colcomette start my homes can my homes have like a my homes game please i never have pat Patrick Mahomes on my teams. Never. And I finally have him in one league. 23 points. Thanks, Mahomes. I could have gotten that from Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 01:10:34 We've got four quarterbacks that are averaging 20 fantasy points right now. Be happy with the 23. Are you starting any Chiefs wide receivers? No. Not with confidence. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:46 But hold up. Let's say Tony's out and Richie James doesn't matter either way. You still can't find it in your heart of hearts to give sky more a whirl as a number three receiver. I cannot. Neither can I. He got real lucky to have that long catch last week. Nice back shoulder catch on the touchdown, but yes, the second.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah, that was cool. Long catch or whatever it was. That was cool. Kansas City's DST is top eight. Tennessee is at Cleveland. Interesting game here. Rankings call out. Heath, you're much lower on Amari Cooper.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I'm much lower on Deshaun Watson, Amari Cooper, and David Njoku. I'm less certain that the Titans' pass defense is that much worse than Deshaun Watson. Yes. I actually think that's fair. Resistable objects meets stoppable force? Correct. Yeah, something like that. I think it's a big week. Maybe this could be a get-right-a-spot for Watson
Starting point is 01:11:45 and make me feel a little bit more confident in him. Or maybe we'll find out that you could even start the worst quarterbacks against the Titans. Jamie, through stat of the game, through two games, four wide receivers have 80 or more yards against Tennessee. Shahid, Olave, Keenan Allen, and Mike Williams. So is that giving you confidence in Cooper?
Starting point is 01:12:05 Very much so. I mean, again, it's the same thing that we've seen for this Titans defense going back to last year. Bad secondary, good run defense. And Amari Cooper's coming off a game where he had double digits in targets and seven catches, and he did that playing through a groin injury and now potentially a shoulder injury.
Starting point is 01:12:20 So if he's practicing in any semblance this week, you're starting him. Amari at home. He's going to practicing in any semblance this week, you're starting him. I'm already at home. He's going to flip the script on us this week. So, so far he's been bad at home and good on the road this year, right? This year.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I meant to say, yeah, exactly. Najoku has been tough to trust. Anybody want to go back to Najoku this week? No, he's in that command range. Maybe a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Like the, the pits, Kittle, Goddard struggles. I'm just starting those guys and not wasting a roster spot starting somebody else over them. Njoku's not there for me. I will find a way to start somebody else over Njoku. All right, start Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Why is it that we're so low on DeAndre Hopkins? Because he's got a low ceiling i i'm going to move him up a little bit with the full practice yesterday he'll be uh he'll be a number three wide receiver for me i think i had him as a number four but he'll be in that wide receiver 30 range and i'm not i'm not certain like if he's gonna have a 33 target share i don't think he has a low ceiling you just have to see whether last week was because he wasn't healthy or what it was this this brown's defense is good yeah Yeah. That's where I was going to go there. They're going to make things really uncomfortable on Ryan Tannehill. And I think their secondary, you know, aside from the George Pickens play, they've eliminated for what it's
Starting point is 01:13:40 worth with Joe Burrows, calf, Jamar chase T Higgins, and, and, you know, Pickens had four catches on 10 targets and one of them went for 71 yards. So that's true. Hopkins, I think is going to have to grind his way to a, a, a big game. And to me, that's number three is here. They've bronze have played the second most man coverage through the first two weeks of the season. And that's been an issue for Hopkins. He's much better versus zone. He struggles separating from man coverage. It is time to talk about Jerome Ford. Heath, you're the high guy on him just outside the top 12. He's top 20 for everyone,
Starting point is 01:14:16 but what are your expectations for Jerome Ford against the Titans? 16 to 18 touches, somewhere around, what, 60 to 80 yards. He catches two or three passes, and you hope that he scores. That's a number two running back now. What is the difference between Jerome Ford and Jamal Williams and Josh Kelly, who were terrible against the Titans?
Starting point is 01:14:39 Guys, why should I even consider starting Jerome Ford? Because we don't have Jonathan Taylor. We may not have Aaron Jones or Austin Eckler. You just lost Nick Chubb. You don't have Saquon Barkley. I mean, that's the narrative right now. It's just, you know, you spent all your fab on him. You spent your first waiver spot on him.
Starting point is 01:14:56 You may have been stashing him on your bench. It's always going to come down to who you have. And you could run down a whole laundry list of Adam of Jerome Ford versus whoever. So just check our rankings and see where we have him ranked. See where we haven't ranked. So we haven't ranked, but I think at this point it's, you can't expect a good game.
Starting point is 01:15:10 You almost have to hope for a good game because the sample size is not just two games for the Titans. It's a year plus for the Titans. They just stopped running backs. That's just what they do. They're great at it. And so is Jerome Ford, like if this was Nick Chubb, we'd be saying you're starting Nick Chubb because he's Nick Chubb.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Like that's the type of matchup this is, you know, so I don't, I don't love the setup for Jerome Ford because you'd like to pick somebody up and say, okay, now he's a must start guy. As he said, he's probably a must start guy because your team is probably in desperate need of a player like this. So I don't love the setup for him, but I still would probably start him based on the work. But like to me, he's a better version of Zach Moss this week. OK, let's move on. We'll talk more about him throughout the week and compare him to other people like DeAndre
Starting point is 01:15:54 Swift when we preview that game tomorrow. Cleveland's DST is startable. They are 78 percent rostered. They are not getting a lot of sacks or turnovers. They're good, good defense, but so far not a great DST. Pittsburgh is at Las Vegas. Dave, you are the low guy on George Pickens. Here's something I like for Pickens and for Pittsburgh in general. They've faced San Francisco and Cleveland, and they've given up the fifth most pressures, pressure rate, fifth highest pressure rate so far. Pickett's been under duress. The Raiders have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So why are you so low on George Pickens this week? Because I, I worry about him having another one of those long catch and run plays. And I also worry about him having that type of target volume because the one thing the Steelers have talked about this week is getting their run game going. And this is a pretty good opponent. The bills proved it. This is a good opponent to try and get that going. Now I don't love the spot for Pittsburgh at all. They're coming off of this emotional win on Monday. Their defense is going to be tired. And so maybe that helps the Steelers try and say, all right, let's just try and run the ball a little bit against Vegas. It's the easiest matchup that their offensive line has seen so far this year. And let's take that pressure off of Kenny Pickett. I think Pickens is in the flex conversation,
Starting point is 01:17:05 but there are a lot of wide receivers that I like better this week. It doesn't have to do with the matchup. Matchup's great, but I don't know if I'm going to look at him and say, all right, he's going to do exactly what he did last week or even half of what he did last week. I just think everything we were hoping would happen for George Pickens happened last week. Deontay Johnson went down.
Starting point is 01:17:24 The target rate shot to the moon. The routes changed. He started running better routes that draw targets. He was like a first look on 40% of Kenny Pickett's targets. And he's facing the Raiders. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:37 If you're not starting George Pickens this week, I don't know when you would ever start him. Couldn't agree more. Well, is anybody starting Najee Harris or Jalen Warren? I think this is a safe week for Najee.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Again, looking at the running back landscape of what it is, the opponent, as Dave alluded to, they were certainly much better. The Raiders were in week one than they were in week two, but how much of that was just Buffalo focusing on the run game? As Dave alluded to, the Steelers are going to try and focus on their run game.
Starting point is 01:18:06 So I think Harris is a low-end starter, number two running back, and Warren's a high-end flex. I mean, we saw last week he was much better than Najee Harris once again, and you heard some rumblings from Mike Tomlin about just how good he's looked. So might we see a changing of the guard if Najee struggles in this matchup? It might happen mid-game. So Warren's a decent flex play, but you know, if, if they are playing with a lead, I don't know if that's necessarily the case because
Starting point is 01:18:34 I don't think they're that very good. If they are playing with a lead, I'm sorry, if they're not playing with a lead, then we might see Jalen Warren on the field and getting those four catches and doing a lot more with it than Najee will. So that's the risk you run with both those guys. But I think, again, just looking at running back landscape, what this week entails injuries and matchups, Najee's got a good enough matchup and enough of a potential workload that he belongs in the starting conversation for the first time this season. I would start both Steelers running backs over Damian Pierce, Gus Edwards, Isaiah Pacheco, and Brees Hall.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Yeah, I'm not there, but Najee, yes. Warren, you know, four catches last week, but the Raiders have already allowed three running backs to have four catches, Piran, Javante, and James Cook, and they gave up the most receiving yards per game to running backs last year. So it's a bit of a vulnerability. I mean, if you look at who they played last year, it makes sense. If let's say, uh, Aaron Jones and Austin Eckler are out this week.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Would you start Najee Harris over any of AJ Dillon, Josh Kelly, or Jerome Ford? I have no faith in AJ Dillon. So I would start Najee over Dylan. Uh, I would start, um,
Starting point is 01:19:43 Josh Kelly over all the guys you mentioned. Pickens we talked about and Friar Muth. Heath, you talked about Njoku. Is Friar Muth in the same boat as Njoku? He's for at least one more week because it's against the Raiders.
Starting point is 01:20:00 This is kind of strange to me, but if you look at the screen here, you see the Raiders minus two and a half. That has moved quite a bit in the last couple of days. The Raiders are Heath, are you really? Well, no, you've Garoppolo 17th. I mean, that's the high guy, but not exactly high. So Jacobs is, I know he's been struggling, but you guys are going to him. Love him.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Pittsburgh's run defense really stunk last year without Cameron Hayward. And, you know, they won't have. And they played 87 snaps on Monday. If he stinks in this game, my gosh. Yeah. Hit the panic button. But what about Jacoby Myers?
Starting point is 01:20:48 Does anybody want to start Jacoby Myers? Is he playing? Jacoby Myers? Yeah, I think he's trending that way. He's trending toward playing. You said number three receiver, Jamie? Yeah, I think so. I agree.
Starting point is 01:21:01 He's behind the group we talked about, Pittman, Flowers, those guys. But you've got to like what he did in week one. That was impressive. And it lowered the ceiling a little bit for Devontae Adams. But still, you're not just down Cam Hayward. You're down most likely to make up Fitzpatrick too. So two key pieces on this defense missing. So a pass rush won't be as bad, even though TJ Watt's amazing.
Starting point is 01:21:21 But the pass rush of the middle won't be there to the same extent. And the back end of the secondary will be a little bit weaker. So there's a chance for grapple and have some, some positive moments here. Unless of course, this is just as Josh Jacobs game, which if I'm the Raiders and I'm trying to get a win, this is a Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Pittsburgh DST is top 12. And that is going to do it for this episode of fantasy football today. We will save the Patriots and the jets for tomorrow. Thanks to Dave, Jamie and Heath. I will talk to someone tonight. I don't even know who's on the show tonight. Dave? No? I guess.
Starting point is 01:21:50 I don't know. I don't know. Sounds like it. Cool. See you at 7.30. Everybody have a great day. And we'll talk to you before and after the Giants beat the 49ers.

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