Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Lamar, WR Streamers, Herbert and More (10/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 29, 2020

We'll run down the latest news including updates on key RBs and then tell you who we love (5:03) and who we are avoiding this week (7:35). Ryan Tannehill is in line for a big game, but it's hard to trust any Patriots or Amari Cooper in Week 8 ... More news and notes (12:00), 60-second Rankings Disputes (18:00) for Josh Allen, Le'Veon Bell, Corey Davis, A.J. Green and Jarvis Landry, and then the Startometer (30:32) for LAR-MIA, NE-BUF and NYJ-KC ... Start or sit for Steelers-Ravens (34:45), Raiders-Browns (46:02), Titans-Bengals (52:05), Chargers-Broncos (58:10), Rams-Dolphins (1:06:00), Patriots-Bills (1:10:00) and Jets-Chiefs (1:11:30) ... Email us at [e-mail] Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what I've done with this spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races. Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again.

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Starter's hit for the AFC home games. Very excited about this slate. Pittsburgh, Baltimore should be awesome. How about Las Vegas and Cleveland? Which quarterback do we like better in that game? Who are the best wide receivers in that game? Can Justin Herbert keep it going against what looks like a pretty solid Denver defense?

I am ready. I've got my stats. I've got my notes, and I've got this bag of candy corn to eat. I was wondering what kind of bag you're going to hold up there. To eat while podcasting. What's up? Welcome, everybody. Why would you do that? Because people hate candy corn. So I'm trying to show it a little bit of support, which is really tough. You know, it's funny.

It's not good it's funny because my oldest son this morning as i was updating projections sitting here i smelled bacon and my wife wasn't home and uh my youngest son is not old enough to make bacon by himself and my oldest son's usually not awake until after we do fft at 2 p.m and uh he made bacon just out of the blue and brought me up a piece on his way back to bed. He's going back to sleep. He's probably just going to bed now. How old is he? He is 19. That's what I'm saying. That 19-year-old should eat bacon,

Heath. I outgrew bacon. I grew out of that face. You're eating candy corn right now. And talking about outgrowing something. Corn! Alright, listen. This episode is sponsored by Express. I will not be outgrowing my Express clothes, that is for sure. Express is all new and all about you with a fresh assortment of casual, versatile, and super comfortable styles. Find out more about Express and their exclusive offer

later in the show. All right, I'll get into the games in just a second. Let me just finish up this bacon discussion. You're at a breakfast buffet, A good breakfast buffet. You got a tray full of bacon and one full of sausage. You can only have one. Which one do you go with? Bacon. Sausage. Okay. Thanks, Heath. Big news. Dalvin Cook is

almost certainly going to play. Looking good there. But Christian McCaffrey unlikely to play tonight. Mike Davis, must start? Yes. Okay. Easy enough. Here are your running back updates. We'll know more tomorrow. But Aaron Jones mispracticed facing Minnesota. Joe Mixon

mispracticed the game against Tennessee. Mark Ingram mispracticed in the game against Pittsburgh. We're looking at potentially two running backs instead of three. Those running backs, Baltimore running backs are averaging something like 20 carries around 100 yards and a touchdown per game. Phillip Lindsay

mispractice. Miles Sanders mispractice. Chris Carson looks like will be a game time decision. Do we have a general update on the Seattle and San Francisco running backs? They are facing each other this week. Jamie? Well, I mean, the fact that Carlos Hyde mispracticed is not a good sign,

despite what Pete Carroll said. So I would be cautious with Carlos Hyde. If DJ Dallas is still out there and you need a rushing back, you're desperate. You know, it's not a bad idea to just put him on your roster just to see if you have a spot to play with. San Francisco, I mean, the window is now open for tevin coleman to return but uh as we've seen you know they don't have to play him this week could be getting him ready for next week so um i would still go with the same plan that i said tuesday which was expect to michael hasty and dj dallas to be the lead running backs for their respective teams right now

a couple more injury notes wide receivers, Allen Robinson in the concussion protocol, and Michael Thomas, Marquez Calloway, and Emmanuel Sanders all mispractice. And we haven't talked, that's, you know, they're facing each other, the Bears and the Saints. Heath, who would be the best wide receiver? If all these guys are out, Robinson, Calloway, Thomas, I shouldn't have gone in that order robinson thomas calloway emmanuel sanders if they're all out who's the best wide receiver in this game

i would say i'm currently projecting them all to be out and i have darnell mooney trae kwan smith and anthony miller back to back to back in my ranking. So basically the answer is we have no idea, but I would probably be the most likely to play the one that doesn't have Nick Foles as his starting quarterback. I'd most likely go with Trey Quinsmith. Okay. Yeah, no, I feel like he's kind of, he had a bad game,

a disappointing game last week, but. He's not safe at all, but he could, like he's got Drew Brees and he might be his only option. So, yeah. I mean, there's no reinforcement there. Don't forget Deontay Harris had more targets than Jake Winsmith last week and scored.

Yeah. Okay. Let's go to the players we love, players we're avoiding this week. Jamie, kick it off. I'm not going to stick it this time. Who do you love? Ryan Tandles at the start of the week. So love the setup for him. Obviously, he had his worst of his best games last week against the Steelers. 20 fantasy points.

So he still got you a decent respectable number, but not as bad as the two bad games that he's had as a full-time starter for the Titans because that was actually his 16th game as the Titans' starting quarterback. So Tannehill should have a big game, and I like a lot of players in that game. I think Joe Burrow's going to have a big game. There's some concern about the weather because of the wind, so that's something you've got to keep an eye on. When I saw it last night, it said 17 miles an hour is the expected wind.

That's not awful, but it's not great. If it gets a little bit more than that, I may have to reconsider. But I love all the receivers in this game. Corey Davis being the worst one, but he's still a number three guy. And I think it's going to be a big bounce back game for John DeWitt. Yeah, for Corey Davis, which obviously is relevant for Ryan Tannehill, since week one, every wide receiver with six or more targets against Cincinnati has had 86 yards or a touchdown.

There's only one exception. That would be Jarvis Landry. So six of the last seven wide receivers, really, with six or more targets, have had either 86 yards or a touchdown. And Davis, in both the games he's played with A.J. Brown, has had six or more targets so yeah we're gonna he's in our 60 second rankings disputes he so Ryan Tannehill for Jamie Heath how about you

I'm gonna go with Travis Fulgham uh they might get Dallas Goddard back they might get Jalen Rager back I can't imagine it's going to mean a huge decrease in targets for Travis Fulgham at this time with the way that he's played so far. He's played four games in the NFL. In those four weeks, he has been the top scoring wide receiver in fantasy football. Not each week, but he's number one in those four weeks, right? He is, and he's got 350 yards and three touchdowns in four games. And one of those games, he really only played about half the time. Like he wasn't even a full-time player yet. So Travis Fulgham is a high end number two wide receiver for me this week.

Yeah. Best wide receiver in that game. Dallas, Philadelphia. Fulgham. Easy. Okay. Yeah.

He's top 15 for everyone. Good stuff. And you heard the stat yesterday from Jacob Gibbs, even if the Eagles are leading, and they're like seven-point favorites I think he said, they still throw. They have a 65% pass rate when leading, which is tops

in the NFL. Okay. Players to avoid. Heath, who you got? I'm just... Well, no. That was a rankings dispute, so I won't do it. It's okay. We can eliminate it from the rankings disputes. The New England Patriots.

Okay. Is that like I'm avoiding all of their players. Julian Edelman's right around number 40 at wide receiver in both PPR and non. None of their running backs are inside my top 30. Cam Newton's not a top 15 quarterback. They don't have any tight ends to speak of. There is not a new England Patriot that I want to start. I think that's very fair. And I agree. Uh, JB, how about you? Who are you avoiding?

Uh, Mark Cooper. Um, he's going to probably see a lot of Darius lay and he's got his third string quarterback. Um, the only plus is that they're hopefully going to get Looney and Martin back on their offensive line, which should help things. But if Slay follows him like he did in Detroit last year, and it seems like he's doing that a little bit more, it's going to be a bad day for Mark Cooper. Okay. That was a quick segment.

Anyway, you know what? I'm going to ask you guys about Melvin Gordon. Thank goodness. Let's just take the win, Adam. bad day for Mark Cooper. Okay. That was a quick segment. Anyone else? You know what? I'm going to ask you guys about Melvin Gordon. Thank goodness. Let's just take the win, Adam. We're going to go an hour and 15 minutes on this show. Like we always take the win. I just feel like we need to talk about segment.

We need to talk about like more relevant players right now. Jamie, you're too low on Melvin Gordon. I thought it was like 15th. Nope. Time. Jamie, you're too low on Melvin Gordon. I'm 10. I thought it was like 15th. No, 10. Jamie, you are just right on Melvin Gordon. But is it Dave? Dave has him 18th.

Jamie, you are not Dave. All right, fine, Heath. We'll take the win. We will move on. We'll do the 60-second ranking. We'll update you on the injuries, news, and notes, and we will preview all of the games. Let me just tell you,

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And Adam, you gave him the points when you always dock Heath for not saying it. Good day. I didn't even realize I was trying to cheat you out of the win, Heath. So it's just subconscious at this point. It's your factory default. Yeah, exactly.

You don't have to make a choice to do that. That's just what you do. Well, exactly. You don't have to make a choice to do that. That's just what you do. Well, sorry I wasn't more successful at that. Who won? Heath won in Final Jeopardy. Congratulations. And guess what? Thank you.

Schrager screwed up yesterday, not me. Well, you did too. It wasn't Schrager screwed up, not me. It was Schrager screwed up in addition to me. We just read an email about how you screwed up. And I screwed up, not me. It was Schrager screwed up in addition to me. We just read an email about how you screwed up. And I screwed up the email, too. All right. News and notes.

Andy Dalton mispracticed. Don't know if he's going to play. It's Sunday night game against Philadelphia. Bruce Arian said... You have to assume no. Yeah. We're going to go into it thinking no. Bruce Arian said that Antonio Brown looks fantastic

and he's going to play in week nine. I saw one of the Raiders beat writers tweet this, that he is, and he's going to play in week nine. I saw one of the Raiders beat writers tweet this, that he is, and this is I'm sure accurate, he's such a good practice player that this is why coaches fall in love with him because they see him work out and they know what he does. I mean, it's hard not to like Antonio Brown when he's doing what Antonio Brown does.

It's the extracurricular stuff with Antonio Brown you got to worry about. What do you think the chances are percentage wise that he is the best bucks wide receiver and fantasy rest of season? It sounds like Dave thinks that's, what's going to happen based on some of the conversations we've had. I can't see it if everybody's healthy, but there's clearly a path that shows you that he could be the number one

guy because Evans has a hard time staying on the field. Even though he's playing, I shouldn't say that Evans is playing through injuries and Godwin has a hard time staying on the field. So it could clearly be a case if he's, if he's the number one guy there, obviously Tom Brady loves him. So it's,

it's not hard to see it happening. 20%. 20%. Okay. I'd be selling Antonio Brown though, wherever I pick them up. Deontay Johnson mispractice, but that's been a normal thing for him. We expect him to play at this point.

Devontae Parker. I don't know about that, though. He came back into the game, though, right? Yeah, but it's a different injury. I know what you're saying, but I wouldn't necessarily couch it the same way that we've been doing it. Okay. Good to know. Devontae Parker was limited in practice. That's a good sign as they get ready for the Rams this week.

You talk about players to avoid. Heath, you said the Patriots. You got to be a little nervous about the Dolphins, right? It varies. Well, actually, I would just say I'm a little nervous about the Dolphins except for Myles Gaskin. I'm starting Myles Gaskin. But I don't want to start Parker.

You might have to as a number three. He's certainly better than all those Bears and Saints guys we were talking about. But I don't really want to start Parker or Gasicki or Preston Williams. No. The thing with Tua, it's such a wild card. I mean, two weeks to prepare. Short thing, the thing with Tua, it's such a wild card. Cause I mean, two weeks to prepare short week for the Rams, long road trip. Like they could have an amazing, you know, first 15 plays scripted first two drives could look great. Once the game unfolds and you

know, the, the Rams sort of punched back after whatever the Dolphins are going to throw at them. That's what you have to see how Tua reacts, but it wouldn't surprise me. The Dolphins score on their first drive, maybe first couple of drives because the Rams are tired and not knowing what to expect. And Tua just looks fantastic. But it's the in-game adjustments

that's going to be interesting. But yeah, I mean, Parker is an easy one to get away from because you assume that's where Ramsey is going to go. Yeah, Myles Gaskin, by the way, this game we'll talk about later on in the show. Myles Gaskin has had 91 or more total yards in four of six games

and three catches or more. And I think every game. So that's basically a floor of 12 PPR fantasy points most, most of the time. But in their last four games, the Rams have not given up 12 PPR fantasy points to any running back that now not the toughest competition. Actually not that bad.

Devante Freeman, Antonio Gibson, Raheem Mostert, David Montgomery. None of them have reached 12 PPR fantasy points. You sure McKissick didn't? McKissick may have, but Gibson did not.

Oh yeah, okay, I'm sorry. So I should rephrase that. The starting running back is not. The thing with the Rams is they give up receptions to backs. They do. And Gaskin is averaging four and a half catches per game. So that's where he's going to have to win. And if you just go by,

you know, football logic, if two was under duress, that's an easy thing for Chan Galey to do. And that's Chan Galey's offense is throwing the ball to his running backs. So I think Gaskin is going to be four plus catches. So that gives him a nice floor to start with.

And I think he's better clearly in PPR than non PPR. So I, Gaskin is the safest of the Dolphins players by far. Heath is 100% right on that. It's just a matter of like who you're comparing Gaskin to. And so like I think all of the replacement running backs are better than Gaskin. You may disagree with that, Heath, and I get it.

But, you know, Jamal Williams, Giovanni Bernard, Boston Scott, if they all start, and I'm not talking about the San Francisco and Seattle guys. If the three guys that started last week are there again, I'm starting them over Myles Gask miles gasket uh okay more news and notes by the way i've got this weird how weird is this you see this it's like a gummy it came in my box of candy corn yeah and mckissick was only what would you do with that does that freak you out freaks me out like i totally need candy corn to be in the game.

A totally different candy. I've outgrown candy corn at him. Okay, all right. McKeel Harry's in the concussion protocol. Jalen Rager has a chance to play this week. Jamison Crowder mispracticed. Brashad Perryman's in the concussion protocol. It might be the Denzel Nim show against Kansas City.

And the tight ends, Tyler Higbee is questionable. It's the only tight end note I have. And are your interest level in Gerald Everett? Austin Hooper's still not back in practice. There you go. Your interest level in Gerald Everett at Miami, if Higbee's out? If you're stuck. There are people who started Darren Fells last week,

which was obviously a mistake, that could be looking for tight end help. Yeah, same here. Gerald Everett could be a guy that you can pivot to. Two of his last four games, I think. One without Higby he scored, so not bad. And offensive line news. Philadelphia is getting left tackle Jason Peters back, most likely.

Dallas could be getting, as Jamie kind of referenced, two offensive linemen back this week. A guard and a center and Zach Martin being one of them. Chicago center Cody Whitehair may miss this week's game with a calf injury. If you had any more incentive

to sit David Montgomery against the Saints defense. Is he a top 24 running back? He is for me. By default. But I would try and get away from David Montgomery if you can. And the Patriots might be without Joe Tooney, their left guard.

So yeah, get away from them. And all right, let's do some rankings disputes. Let's start with Josh Allen. This could be a fairly quick one because you both have him in the top eight. So it's a start. And Dave has him 10th. But Heath, you've got Josh Allen third, and Jamie has him eighth. Heath, you make the case first.

Josh Allen third, coming off three disappointing games in a row and now facing the Patriots. Yeah, it's more a thing of if Josh Allen is even average as a passer with his rushing floor, he's always going to project really high. Those rushing points obviously gave him a boost over guys like Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert and Ryan Tannehill for me. so I am not I wasn't totally sold that he was the number one quarterback a couple of weeks ago I'm not I don't think he's bad now he's still a starting quarterback and two of the top five quarterbacks aren't

playing this week Jamie eighth on Josh Allen and I only bring that up because a lot of people have Allen might have some might have Herbert and who I don't know. You wouldn't go with Bridgewater, but like talk to me about Allen. I just there's a lot of great quarterbacks this week, you know, and I've kind of shuffled around with I think Wentz is in a better spot just given his matchup and the way that he's played. I think Ryan Tannehill is in a better spot given his matchup and what his overall body of work has been. And the one that I struggle with, honestly, is Lamar Jackson, you know, just because Jackson hasn't had these extreme heights that we've seen,

but you know, he's facing Pittsburgh. So I have him right behind Josh Allen. So, I mean, look, if you have Justin Herbert and Josh Allen, it's probably a little bit of a toss up and you probably play the hot hand, which I get. That's what I would do. I'm not playing Josh Allen over Mahomes against the Jets or Russell Wilson against anybody at this point. So I'm going to stick with those guys.

Same thing with Aaron Rodgers against a bad Minnesota defense. It's a good week for quarterbacks. I have Josh Allen in one league. I'm not going to bench him. I don't have Justin Herbert. I'm going to stick with him. But you're going with Wentz and Herbert over him. And Tano.

He's getting John Brown back, it looks like, this week. John Brown, practice in full. And that's, whether it's coincidental or not, that's been really when the numbers haven't been good. The fantasy, when he's either been hurt or out. Well, I think if you think even about the Patriots

and how good they are defensively, they're not as good as they've been in past years, but they're still good. Their ability to take somebody away with Gilmore, that doesn't work near as well if you've got John Brown and Cole Beasley as well. The Patriots allow the

fifth most yards per play in the NFL. Is that wild? Most of that is three games, though. That's half their season. Right. Think about the three opponents, though. Two of them are two of the best

offenses in football in Seattle and Kansas City. I mean, okay, but they're obviously they don't appear to be a lockdown defense. But, you know, I mean, San Francisco punched them in the mouth. It's not like Miami did that to them. It's not like... No, no, they didn't. Who else did they play?

The Raiders didn't do that to them. Let's put the 62nd back in 62nd ranking. Le'Veon Bell. Jamie got him 24th in non-PPR, 20th in PPR. Heath, you got him 35th in non-PPR, 20th in PPR. Heath, you got him 35th in non-PPR, 33rd in PPR. Did not have a target last week by the way, so I'm not sure why you guys are higher on him in PPR, but that probably makes sense.

It's only last week. Le'Veon Bell. How many passes did Mahomes throw? 20? Well, Clyde Edwards either had four targets and Le'Veon did not have any. His first game. I dropped one of them and didn't look for the other one. That's true. Okay.

Now, you know, I'll back off on that. Okay. Jamie, you've got him as a low-end starter against the Jets. Go. It's the revenge game factor. I mean, there's, I bet money that if they have a chance to get Le'Veon Bell in the end zone, he's scoring. So I'm going to start him against the Jets on a week where there's bad running backs across the board.

And once you get past basically like 18 or 19 in anybody's rankings, it's a guessing game. So I'm going to start Le'Veon Bell. The one they might start Le'Veon Bell over. That's probably a surprise is David Montgomery. I just don't trust Montgomery this week against the Saints. Heath. Yeah.

He played 17 snaps and had six touches last week. And like the, the revenge game narrative could be totally right um i i don't have a revenge game button in the projections unfortunately i need to add one for next year but um i i wouldn't blame someone if they wanted to flex levy on and hope that he scores a touchdown i don't think there is going to be enough touches there that if he doesn't score a touchdown he has much chance of being good. Next up is Corey Davis. I gave the stat on wide receivers against Cincinnati.

Most of them who have six or more targets do really well. Corey Davis, Jamie likes him, but has him 34th, and Heath has him 24th. So, Heath, first word, you're the high guy on Corey Davis, number 24 for you in the rankings. Last week, we were talking about how there were a lot of wide receivers, and it was a great week for wide receiver. So Heath, first word, you're the high guy on Corey Davis, number 24 for you in the rankings. Last week, we were talking about how there were a lot of wide receivers and it was a great week for wide receiver. I do not feel that way about week eight at all. There are about 19 wide receivers that I feel good about. But again, I have Corey Davis projected for more than six targets.

If you get six targets against this defense, you're generally good. It's math. Okay. I like math. I support math. And Jamie, I know you said you liked Corey Davis, but yeah.

And this morning it probably has an update. I moved them up to 28. So he's not that far behind because I can't say start Ryan Tannehill as a start of the week and not have all the targets relatively higher. The only concern I have for Corey Davis is, and this was interesting just in digging into Ryan Tannehill, he's had 10 starts of the 16 with 30 or fewer pass attempts. He's still great in those games.

He averages 26 fantasy points per game in those games with those attempts. I don't know if you're going to get great production from all three of their main pass catchers when you're only getting 30 targets because Adam Humphreys is're going to get great production from all three of their main pass catchers when you're only getting 30 targets, because Adam Humphreys is still going to get some, he'll throw a couple to the running backs. Hopefully it's Derek Henry. So can Davis do what he did last week, which was 10 targets and amazing. And the targets were amazing.

And John Smith be non-existent. And so this feels more like a Johnu game than it does a Corey Davis game based on how bad the Bengals are defending tight ends. Now, they're bad at defending most things at this point. But if I had a bet on Jonu versus Corey Davis, I would take Jonu. Okay, next up. That's my concern.

A.J. Green. Jamie's got him 19th. He has him 34th. Jamie, A.J. Green against Tennessee. Well, I mean, the targets have been fantastic the last two games. He's basically been the A.J. Green that we hoped for. He's just not scoring touchdowns. So this defense is not good at all for Tennessee,

and I think A.J. Green is going to continue to soak up targets from Joe Burrow in a game where he's probably throwing 40-plus times, if not 50-plus times. So I love A.J. Green this week. The targets have been – he's somebody I struggle with a lot and I might move him three more times this week. The targets have been awesome. It's really just been one week that he was good with them though. Last week he turned 13 targets into 80 yards. Most of this year, he's been one of the least efficient wide receivers in football.

He had one game two weeks ago where he looked like A.J. Green again. And I just don't know with Tyler Boyd playing as well as he is and T. Higgins emerging like he is, how much longer he can continue to get double-digit targets weekly when he's not doing anything good with them. Well, explain to me the difference between him getting 13 targets and turning that into 80 yards and Corey Davis getting 10 targets and turning into 40 yards. That was

a bad, inefficient game from Corey Davis. That was the first game this year where that's really been the case. It's also the first game where he's had everybody around him there. Yeah, I don't think, yes, if that had caused him to not get targets, that would make sense to me. The fact that he continued to get targets with those guys there, I think, is a good thing.

I don't think he was less efficient because they were there. Sure, but isn't it a good thing that A.J. Green's getting targets with everybody there, too? Yeah, I struggle with him. He's just been, almost every time except for that one week, he's been bad with the targets he's received. Yeah. Corey Davis has had some games where he's played well. Good thing for Green is that the bangles throw the second most attempts per game,

the second most past temps per game and the Titans see the second most wide receiver targets per game. So it does seem like a matchup where burrow who almost always throws a lot is going to throw a lot to his wide receivers. So that does help. This game really could be great for wide receivers, Tennessee at Cincinnati. I mean, it's two teams that just don't cover well.

You don't hope what? I hope the weather holds up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, same. All right, last one, guys. Jarvis Landry. Jamie's got him as number 42 in PPR. Heath, number 26.

Jamie, you're sitting Jarvis Landry. I just don't trust his health. I mean, you know, there's been target opportunities for him this season. He hasn't produced. I don't think the loss of Beckham necessarily going to change the way that this offense operates. And I think, you know, Baker has a great opportunity in front of him. He threw five touchdowns on 28 past attempts last week. So, you know, he's going to have to be that uber efficient again for all these guys to be successful. I still don't trust Jarvis Landry without Beckham not there. Heath, you have him 26th in PPR, 27th in PPR. Yeah, and this is a product, I think, of the impact that Vegas has

on the projections. The Browns are one of the higher projected teams in terms of projected points this week. I can imply a total of 27. It's nearly four touchdowns, and they don't look like they're going to have Austin Hooper, and they're not going to have Odell Beckham, and it's Jarvis Landry and Rashard Higgins and Kareem Hunt. So it gets pretty consolidated there. So I do think this is a chance for Landry to get into the end zone

for the first time this year. Who do you guys like better, Landry or Higgins? Higgins. I have Higgins just a little bit ahead of Landry. I figured Higgins was going to be the rankings dispute. No, I think because Jamie's got Higgins kind of within range of where you have him, whereas Landry is much different.

Have you guys changed your opinion at all since Tuesday on the waiver wire wide receivers Higgins Aguilar Scott Miller Greg Ward Sterling Shepard I guess would be the IU is number one I would think but

I'm not sure about that but I would think anyway but have you settled on one or two that you're really confident in this week this week I mean IU is this week and long-term, just not knowing how long Debo Samuel is going to be out. And then Shepard long-term is the second guy for me,

and he's right there in terms of this week also. But for this week, it's so interesting because Scott Miller could be fantastic without Chris Godwin there. It hasn't been the case, but there's always the chance based on what we saw last week. Greg Ward could be great this week if there's no Jalen Rager or Dallas Goddard.

But long-term, Rashard Higgins could be better than all of them because of the opportunity. Okay, but specifically, have you fallen in love with any of them this week? Ayuk, by far. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry. Other than him because I think he's the most popular one. I think Ayuk and Shepard are in different categories. I think Dave has really come around on Nelson Aguilar. I think he really likes Aguilar.

Yeah, I'm not doing that. Well, Heath, it seems you're that with Higgins. Yeah. Higgins and Iuke, for me, this week are in a separate category. I would put Higgins and Iuke in their own tier this week, and I would put Iuke and Shepard in their own tier rest of season. Yeah. Well, I mean, Higgins, rest of season too.

I mean, there's no Beckham coming back. So, you know, the hope is that he takes advantage of this opportunity. Aguilar is interesting because he's been successful, but last week was the first time that the targets matched the success. Yeah. You know, so if he's going to be, you know, north of six targets, which last week was the first time that happened, then Aguilar, there's a lot to like about him, but the body of work of his career doesn't suggest that's going to be north of six targets, which last week was the first time that happened, then Aguilar, there's a lot to like about him. But the body of work of his career

doesn't suggest that's going to be sustainable. And I think there's going to be a Hunter Renfro game. I think you're going to see, because the Browns can't cover slot receivers. So Renfro could have a really good game in three of his last four games. He's got six plus targets. Aguilar, I don't want to oversell Dave's love for Aguilar. He has him 30th in PPR.

And he's changed. His ADOT isth in PPR. And he's changed. His ADOT is like 14 yards now. So he's definitely changed his profile a little bit. And Carr is all of a sudden throwing downfield. All right, that game's coming up. Start-o-meter, here we go. The last three games we talk about are going to be Rams-Dolphins, Bills-Patriots, and Chiefs-Jets.

Start-o-meter, 0-10 for Jared Goff. Three. Heath? I said four. Oh, I'm sorry. Daryl Henderson. Seven. Yeah, seven or eight.

Robert Woods. Six. Five. Cooper Cup. Five. Same. Gerald Everett. Two. Four. Miles Cup. Five. Same. Gerald Everett. Two.

Four. Miles Gaskin. Ten. Eight. Devante Parker. Five. Four. Mike Gasicki.

Three. Four. Patriots running back at Buffalo. Three. Four. Patriots running back at Buffalo. Three. James White would be a four in PPR. Everybody else is a two. Julian Edelman. One.

Two. Buffalo running back against New England. Moss is a four in non-PPR. Singletary is a three. Singletary is a four in PPR. Moss is a four in non-PPR. Singletary is a three. Singletary is a four in PPR. Moss is a three. Yeah, I'll give Singletary a five, but yeah. I don't know why anybody's still starting

Devin Singletary at this point. I am forced to. If you had both, who would you start? Because I'd start Moss. I would start Singletary. I don't know. I would start Moss. I would start Singletary. I don't know. I would start Moss. Game where they're expected to win.

I would start Moss because I feel like he'd be more likely to score a touchdown. Who? Moss. Yeah, I just don't get it with the Bills, why they just keep trying to force Singletary into this role. Yeah, they have a terrible run game. Their line's not working.

Right, but I mean, last week, one running back averaged over six yards per carry. The other one didn't. Right, but that same guy averaged two yards per carry the week before. Yeah, but that was his first game back after sitting out for three games. Oh, I mean, come on.

Let's not make excuses for him. Zach Moss has not been good this year either. But he's been better than Singletary. Has he? He's had two games with over four yards per carry. And Singletary hasn't? No. Singletary stinks. And I than Singletary. Has he? He's had two games with over four yards per carry. And Singletary hasn't? No. Singletary stinks.

And I like Singletary. I wish he would be better. He was really good last year. He was really good. So I'm not sure the issues are him. But he has not been good. Yeah, for sure. For the year, Singletary's got a better yards per carry average than Moss, right?

For the year, yes. But in two games, Moss has been better than Singletary has. I think we could probably cut this argument any way we'd like. This kind of feels like an Azar stat. To make your case for either guy. But in relevant news, Dave offered me Zach Moss for Cole Beasley, and I'm not doing it. I'm keeping Cole Beasley.

Start-o-meter on Cole Beasley. Well, let me tell you, Cole Beasley has now had 70 yards or a touchdown in 13 of his last 17 games going back to last year. I don't know how you can

trust the touchdowns because he's had a lot of games with 40 yards but scored, but that's 13 of his last 17 games with 70 yards or a touchdown. He usually gets six targets a week. I don't have any faith in a Bills running back. I think it's just one of those lost situations. So I'm not trading Beasley.

I'm forced to for the last three weeks, I think, starting Stephon Diggs and Cole Beasley. And I don't think I've lost a game. Nice. With those two. So start-o-meter for Beasley. And I don't think I've lost a game. Nice. With those two. So, start-o-meter for Beasley against New England? Eight in PPR and six in none. Yeah, six.

LaMichael Pirine at Kansas City? Three. Four. Jamison Crowder if he plays at Kansas City? Eight. Oh, if he plays, you start him. Yeah. Denzel Mims if Crowder doesn't play? Eight. Oh, if he plays, you start him. Yeah. Denzel Mims,

if Crowder doesn't play? Four. Sure. Clyde Edwards-Ziller? Ten. Yeah. Le'Veon Bell? Seven.

Three. Okay. Which adds up to ten. So, Pittsburgh and Baltimore, let's get to the games. All right, we're excited for this one.

I have three stats of the game. I'll run through them. Stat of the game number one, Chase Claypool has had more than four targets one time this year. Okay, so there's that.

Start or sit? Sit. Devin Singletary or Chase Claypool? Singletary. Well, that's depending on Deontay Johnson.

Okay. Sure. Yeah, I agree with that. Stat of the game number two. Since the start of 2019, only two quarterbacks have rushed for more than 28 yards against the Steelers. Both of them were Ravens. Lamar Jackson and RG3 in week 17 last year.

Stat of the game number three. This is what the Ravens running backs average per game. 21 carries, 100 yards, one touchdown. Not so good when it's divided three ways. If it's divided evenly two ways, also not very good. But 21 yards, 100. 21 carries, 100 yards, and a touchdown. That's for the entire season. Now they got to face Pittsburgh. So we've got some really good fantasy players in this game, Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Generally speaking, how many of them are you very confident in?

Very confident in? One. Just Jackson? Two, two. Who? James Conner and Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I would say those are the only... I should probably say I'm very confident in Mark Andrews

since he's in my top five tight ends. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three. But I do think that if we go another week with Mark Andrews getting three or four targets, we're going to have to have a discussion. Right. Marquise Brown, you know,

on paper, they're giving up the seventh most fantasy points to wide receivers, Pittsburgh. How many good wide receivers haven't done well against them? You know,

it should be a good matchup for Marquise Brown. Are you guys going to go with Corey Davis or Rashard Higgins or Aguilar? How about Ayuk? How many of the waiver wire guys are you starting ahead of Marquise Brown?

Just Ayuk. Yeah, Higgins. I would start Higgins. Okay. Let's start with the Steelers. We'll go back to the Ravens. Sit Roethlisberger just you know sit him

you said you're confident in James Conner not concerned about the matchup concerned but still starting Miles Gaskin or James Conner I'll still start Conner because Gaskin's matchup is tough too

I would start Jamal Williams without Aaron Jones over him. I would start Gaskin over him. I would start Gio without Mixon over him. Okay. And Boston Scott? I would not start Boston Scott over him. Really? I don't think Boston Scott's quite as good as Gio or Jamal Williams this week.

All right. That Cowboys run defense, Heath, has been pretty... It's really bad. He's not going to get 100% of the carries. No, and they also, for some reason, they're great against pass-catching running backs. Okay, but James Conner is a start. If you're going with a Steelers wide receiver,

who are you going with? Deontay, if he plays. Deontay, if he plays. Where are you going with? Deontay, if he plays. Deontay, if he plays. Where are you ranking these guys? Borderline starters. Somewhere between, depending on format, 23 and 26. I think I've got them right around 20 in PPR and right around 30 in non-PPR.

So who's the best wide receiver in this game? Deontay. I'm sorry, I'm taking Marquise in non-P this game Deontay I'm sorry Markis in non PPR yep yep yep okay Eric Ebron is outside the top 12 inside the top 20 he's usually about 5 catches

and 45 yards or so that's been 3 of his last 4 games he's been in that range he does have 5 red zone targets. Only one touchdown this year. Ravens are doing a little bit better against tight ends. It's just that it's just too many mouths to feed now. Can't really trust Ebron. Yeah, he's also banged up. He's got

two good games on the season. He's got one touchdown on the season. So he's an easy guy to get away from if you can. If Deontay's out, Ebron would probably be in my top 12. Okay. Last year, Lamar Jackson was the number one quarterback in fantasy with a bullet, but he had 13 fantasy points at Pittsburgh. So why do you guys have him ranked top seven? Fifth for Jamie, seventh for Heath. He's lower. I don't know what rank

he's looking at for me, but he's lower. Oh, he's lower? Yeah. Okay. Did you update that, or did I just write it down wrong? Yeah, I mean, I put Tannehill and Wentz at him. Okay, so then he's seventh for both of you then. Perfect. So the players behind him would be like Brady, Burrow, Bridgewater, Ryan. You're not quite ready to go that far. What are your expectations for him

I might change it I might put uh Allen and Brady ahead of him I've got him at like 200 passing yards 50 rushing yards and two and a half touchdowns man they're so good against mobile quarterbacks this is a different beast but like Deshaun Watson at five yards, Carson Wentz, 11 yards, Ryan Tannehill, five yards, Daniel Jones at 22 yards. Jones is the third most rushing yards for quarterbacks this year. And,

uh, what's that? Yeah. Keep it going. Love that stat. It really surprised me. Surprise me, but he had 70 yards against them last year.

Yes. Right. He's the only one really who's had success. He and RG three. Uh, so, all right. Yes. Right. He's the only one really who's had success. He and RG3. So, all right. Yeah, look, I think a lot of people are going to start Lamar Jackson. You're starting Justin Herbert over him. Heath, are you starting Wentz or Jackson?

I'm starting Jackson over Wentz, but I am starting Tannehill over Jackson. Heath, what do you think about the Baltimore running backs this week? Man, if Mark Ingram doesn't play, then I think Edwards and Dobbins are both flexes, but they're not in my top 25.

I definitely like Dobbins better in full PPR, and I like Edwards better in non-PPR. And I hope that that seems silly because this is just like the Lions, and it's the unleashing of J.K. Dobbins. And when Mark Ingram comes back, he's in the Gus Edwards role, but I'm just projecting it as a

near-even split in the running game. The nice thing is Dobbins does the majority of the work in the passing game. I don't know if anyone's ever thrown a ball to Gus Edwards. Can I just say something about Gus Edwards here? If you all recall, in 2018, he was the starter for weeks 11 through 17.

He had 122 carries, 654 yards, two touchdowns. He averaged 5.4 yards per carry. He was on pace for 279 carries and almost 1,500 rushing yards and five touchdowns. He's always been productive. Everybody, including me, was like, oh, it's Gus Edwards, you know, whatever. But he's always productive, basically.

So if Ingram's out, you know, I know you already answered the question, but I guess I'm just rephrasing it. If Ingram's out, why not give more love to Gus Edwards, I guess is my question. I think they're both similar. They do different things, but they're similar in terms of how you have to approach it because we just don't know.

And if Heath is right in referencing the Detroit game, because I feel the same way, I hope that this is the turning point for J.K. Dobbins, that he's had a week off. Give him some more things in terms of install. The other part of it though is in that Detroit ref comparison Adrian Peterson still had a healthy amount of carries and scored a touchdown so both guys could still have work and be successful and you've referenced it Adam that you know the numbers for their team it's not overwhelming but it's not something that you just ignore for what their running back group does. So if those two guys are splitting that up,

maybe things go a little bit differently. The Steelers, look, we have a one-game sample size for them without Devin Bush, and they face a completely different offense than what they're going to be faced with this week. So their run defense could be challenged in a different way this week because of what Lamar Jackson does by comparison to Ryan Tannehill and what these two running backs do clearly by comparison to Derrick Henry.

So I think they're both, like he said, they're flexes. I would start Dobbins over Edwards in both formats just based on upside. And that's not to disparage Gus Edwards, but he doesn't catch the ball. He does not.

For whatever they do in the passing game, I think that's where Dobbins will have an edge. I don't even know. Does he have five catches in his career? I don't even know. That's probably not even worth looking up. No, he had seven catches last year. Put some respect on his name.

Well, he doesn't have any this year. Okay, all right. That's what I'm looking at. I was making a case for him. I'm not saying that he's going to be great or anything, but throwing a little love Gus Edwards way. Pittsburgh's DST is 10th for Jamie, 9th for Dave, 13th for Heath. At least that was the case yesterday.

Apparently, I have the outdated rankings. I'm sorry. Baltimore's DST is top eight. And, yeah, looking forward to this game. You don't have to apologize for that, Adam. Our rankings change, like, every morning and then in the afternoon and sometimes in the evening. There's no way.

That's the way that it works throughout the week. And that happened to be the first game that I dived into. It's the most outdated rankings. You can apologize for saying dived into. Why? I don't know. Okay. Well, I'm not going to apologize

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but when you look at Nelson Aguilar, is he going to be successful? You want to know, are they going to give up big plays? They have given up the fifth most pass plays of 20 plus yards, but only most pass plays of 20 plus yards, but only two pass plays of 40 plus yards. So I would say inconclusive, which is a great stat of the game. Anyway, Jamie, do you actually like Renfro better than Aguilar this week?

In PPR, yes. You know, it's hard to overlook what Aguilar has done, scoring touchdowns, the big plays. The fact that the targets were up last week, that's encouraging. But, you know, there, there's also the, the likelihood of it's a one catch for 40 yards and he doesn't score touchdown and it's still a big play. So I'm not going to bank on that where I can see Renfro having a six catch

game. So, yeah, I like, I like, and you've seen slot receivers just destroy this team. You know, Boyd did it twice. They don't have the list in front of me, but they really struggled with slot receivers all season. So I could see Redfro being

a significant part of this offense. Willie Sneed, CeeDee Lamb, very good. And then yeah, Boyd, I guess would be, I guess would be the other one. I think the other thing is,

we don't have him ranked in our top 48, but someone emailed us about it earlier in the week and it didn't cause me to change it, but it's a good point. It's like, how do you guys not have Henry Ruggs ranked in your top 48? He's playing the Browns. That's a great matchup.

And Ruggs played a season-high number of snaps, ran a season-high number of routes last week. He didn't get the targets. But it's just another guy there who could, like it might be Ruggs that has two big plays downfield. We've seen that in games before as well. So it's a great situation for Derek Carr. It's good for the offense as a whole

that they are taking more shots downfield. And I think eventually we all agree that Ruggs will be the best wide receiver on this team. It might not happen until next year. And then you've got Waller taking away a third of the targets. So it's tough to get any of those Raiders into your top 40, at least it is for me. Yeah, I have Ruggs ranked.

Do you? Yeah. I mean, just again, it's not of a, it's not a guarantee. It's just a, you know, looking at the matchup and looking at the big play potential. Okay.

So, which quarterback do you like better? Sorry. Derek Carr, I'll just give the stats. 261 or more yards and multiple touchdowns

in five straight games. Which quarterback do you like better this week? Carr or Mayfield? Carr. I've gone back and forth, but currently Carr. Who do you have him this week car mayfield car i've gone back and forth but currently car who do you have him ranked ahead of cam ben breeze uh golf um that works i have them both ahead of all those guys josh jacobs is top 10 in both formats you know he might be

playing hurt john gruden kind of alluded to that he says he's banged up and everybody's banged up this time of year doesn't have a run longer than 16 yards this is an easier matchup but the Browns they only give up 3.71 yards per carry to running backs are you just is it basically going to take like I don't know another horrible game for you to consider sitting Josh Jacobs he's still a must start I like I mean you sent us a story this morning I think it was or yesterday from the Las Vegas sun. Um, I think a big part of it has been Richie incognito not being there. You know, that's a big piece of the offensive line. And it was so for me, part of the reason why I liked Josh Jacobs last year was the offensive line because they did play very well. It was an

underrated group. Um, the, the whole COVID situation from them for a week ago is, is, is probably factoring into some of this also, that they didn't have their whole group out there. But I mean, look, they play Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is going to make most running offenses look terrible and most running backs look terrible. They have for the better part of two seasons now. So I'm still optimistic with Jacobs

and I'm still going to start him until he stops getting work. Okay. And we talked about the Vegas wide receivers. How about ranking the wide receivers in this game? I give me your top three wide receivers in this game. AJ Brent. No, was that the game?

No, no, we're doing Higgins, Aguilar, Landry. I just liked that game so much. Um, I'll go Higgins,

Landry,ler I'll go Higgins Renfro Agler Landry Darren Waller's top three stardom Baker Mayfield is also in that start worthy range top 15 guy Kareem Hunt is a must-start. The Raiders, I keep mentioning it every week, run defense is a lot better with Nick Kwiatkowski on the field,

but still they gave up the second most receiving yards per game to the running backs, and who the hell's benching Kareem Hunt? He's going to be fine. And that's, yeah, we pretty much cover the wide receivers. How about Harrison Bryant? You guys have him in the top 20. He had five targets.

He caught four of them, 56 yards, two touchdowns last week. And the Raiders, in my opinion, they faced three fantasy-relevant tight ends, Jared Cook, Travis Kelsey, Rob Gronkowski, and all of them scored. So, you know, your interest level in Harrison Bryant. Heath is? Four.

I would start him over gerald everett i would um but he could absolutely 100 give you a darren phil's okay right it could be the joke could be no joku right would you start gosicki or harrison bryant gosicki i will start gosicki tennessee is at cinc Cincinnati. This is the game that Jamie loves so much. Yeah. Yeah, I was looking at something when you said that. I was like, what a brain fart. No, that's okay. Look, you know, full disclosure,

it always takes me about six intros before we get one right. I got those two games, the Cleveland-Cincinnati games. I got them mixed up. I was like, Tennessee's about to play Cleveland. No, wait, never mind. They're playing Cincinnati. So anyway, this game here, Ryan T about to play Cleveland. No, wait. Never mind. They're playing Cincinnati. So, anyway, this game here, Ryan Tannehill's

the start of the week. He's seventh for Jamie. Oh, no. He's fifth now? Sixth now? Okay. And he's top six for everybody, Ryan Tannehill. So, we like him, even if he doesn't throw that much. And Derrick Henry, you're going to start. And A.J. Brown, you're going to start. And Corey

Davis, we did the rankings disputes. If you want to hear about Corey Davis go to the 60 second rankings disputes you can check the time codes but he's a number three guy for Jamie just because Jamie's a little concerned maybe not enough targets to go around this week and he's a he's the number 24 wide receiver for Heath John who Smith

it actually I think Heath see if these rankings are updated I think you have John Smith 11th in PPR 7th in non that sounds right so yeah you've got like Gronk, Graham, Hawkinson Richard Rogers over him

in PPR well Rogers would only be if God it was out obviously right it's just and I think that makes sense for if you're going to be higher on Corey Davis, you would be lower on John O. Smith.

It's not likely that A.J. Brown, John O. Smith and Corey Davis are all really good. It's probably two of those three. It'd be great for Ryan Tandil if they are. Yeah, it'd be great for Ryan Tandil if they are. Yeah, my goodness. Cincinnati is so bad against tight ends. Five tight ends have had more than 50 yards.

Six touchdown catches to tight ends in their last three games. That is wild. So come on, John O'Smith. Come through. The thing I don't want to judge John O'Smith on is he left the game two weeks ago with a back injury. He played through the back injury last week against the Steelers. And so the body of work in the first four games is what I want to look at with Jonathan Smith. Again, hopefully he's healthy and the matchup is just good.

Yeah, but you know there's a big asterisk on that. Asterisk on that. That was A.J. Brown not being there for much of that. Yeah, but I don't think he's going to be a two-touchdown guy every week. Joe Burrow is top 10. 10th for Jamie, 9th for Dave,

and 9th for Heath. I don't really know what to say. What's the case against Joe Burrow? He throws all the time, just sometimes he doesn't get the touchdowns. He only had one touchdown in three games before last week. That's the case against him. It's kind of hard to predict that, right?

Yeah, I mean, the Colts game is the biggest wacky one where all of his receivers played well. He had over 300 yards and he had a rushing touchdown. That's just so unlucky. Yeah. All right. So, he's top 10. Would you start him

over Karin Mayfield? Yep. Yes. Over Matt Ryan? Actually, just while we were talking, I moved him ahead of Lamar Jackson.

No way. Really? Yep. I moved Lamar Jackson down. So he's 10th. No, Burrow's 9th. Lamar Jackson's 10th now. Wow.

Okay. Yeah. That's behind Burrow and Allen and Brady for Jamie. All right. How do you feel about Gio Bernard? Because Tennessee, they're getting a little bit better against running backs lately. They haven't allowed 30 receiving yards to a running back yet.

They allow the fifth fewest receiving yards per game. And matchup almost doesn't matter. The Bengals have been so bad at running the football. You were so close. You were so close. Why? Matchup almost doesn't matter. The Bengals have been so bad at running the football. You were so close. You were so close. Why? Matchup almost doesn't matter for Gio Bernard if Joe Mixon's not healthy. It doesn't matter

who he's playing. But he did have 13 carries for 37 yards last week. Right. He always scores double-digit fantasy points. It does, but again, this team has been very good against pass-catching running backs. They haven't played Gio Bernard. That's true. Team Gio, Adam. Good on board.

Who did they play? They played James Conner. They played James Robinson. He had 18 yards. Chris Thompson had 20 yards and a touchdown. I guess they haven't been super tested. TJ Yeldon caught a touchdown. Okay, so you said you'd start Gio over James Conner, right?

I would. Jamie? Yeah, I would. If Mixon plays, how confident would you be in him? Must start. I would be starting him. He probably would be a little bit lower than Gio is currently. Such a weird thing to say, but it makes total sense.

And then Tyler Boyd is a must-start guy for sure. And then who do you guys like better, AJ Green or Tee Higgins? Green, but I have all three Bengals ranked in my top 24. Higgins. And I think that might be the best thing to do is just rank them all in the top 25, and you'll be right about two and wrong about one. Right.

Just like, I don't want to do this to Jamie, but I really feel like bonanzing this game. Based on your rankings, this game is going to be really, really good for fantasy. Believe me, the start of the week curse has exceeded the bonanza curse. We had the bonanza and the start of the week in the same game? It's happened before.

We've had our ups and downs with this one before. I'll tell you, the only thing that scares me is the wind. It's not the defenses. It's not the defenses. You know, the one thing for the Bengals is they are getting William Jackson back. He missed last week's game with a concussion. So that'll help their secondary to some extent. But their pass rush is not good.

And, you know, forget about Carlos Dunlap. That really has no impact on it whatsoever. But, you know, they just are not going to bother Ryan Tannehill even without Taylor LeJuan there. Nobody's interested in Drew Sample. Tennessee, though, they are really bad against tight ends. And if you need a DST, Titans are 11th for Jamie and Heath, 17th for Dave.

The Bengals have allowed 28 sacks. The Titans do not get after the quarterback, though. What'd you say? Right. That's the only thing. It's like this is a get-right game for their pass rush if there ever was one. Because no Jonah Williams either.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I got confused with the teams there. All right. Yeah, okay. Sorry, I got confused with the teams there. All right, Chargers are at Denver. It's so confusing with the Ohio game. Chargers are at Denver.

The stat of the game is really the question of the game. Do the Broncos have a good defense? Statistically, they do. And they have Vic Fangio, and he's pretty good at defense. They are 7th in yards per play.. They are seventh in yards per play. They're eighth in yards per game. Um, 16th in points per game. I think I met.

Yeah, I think I put yards for game twice. I think it's there. I think they're eighth in yards per game and 16th in points per game, 10th in pressure rate. And in terms of fantasy, the Broncos are 14th against quarterback, second against running backs,

14th against wide receivers, and 12th against tight ends. And I hate to crap on Justin Herbert here, but I do wonder if he's been a little bit lucky. He has four touchdown passes of 53 or more yards. That is really high. And this team, the Broncos don't give up a lot of big passing plays. Fourth fewest pass plays of 20-plus yards so far in the NFL.

They have had a bye. Look, I don't want to get too far into it because you guys all have Justin Herbert in your top six. But this is a challenge. But they've taken last week's game out of the picture because the Chiefs, with the defensive score and the weather and just how everything unfolded for them, I don't think that's the Chiefs offense or the Broncos defense.

I just think that's how the game unfolded. It's the whole year, though. I mean... No, but look at the Broncos game. They are the Broncos. Which game? I mean, the... Look at the Buccaneers game.

The Buccaneers are the team that really... Like, that was the worst performance for this defense. Right, but otherwise, they face Tennessee in week one. Yeah. Pittsburgh in week two. Right. But those don't, those offenses,

I don't think have the same upside pass wise that Herbert does right now. Okay. That's fine. I just, Adam, I think like, I don't necessarily disagree with your concern it's just that we've got a rookie quarterback who's played five games in the nfl yeah he's averaging 308 yards passing

per game and five rush attempts per game and he has 14 total touchdowns in those five games i don't you know what? How is he doing it? They've got one good wide receiver. That's not true at all. Mike Williams is bad for fantasy, but he's very talented and good for quarterback. He's not doing anything. Jalen Guyton is

catching 70-yard touchdown passes. I know that's what I'm saying. It just seems like it just seems a little unsustainable to me. I don't think he's going to throw for 4,800 yards or 4,500 yards no he's not paying for 4,900 i don't think he's gonna have 45 touchdowns at the end of the year i agree yeah this is not sustainable it's a more long-term thing it's it's i can't i can't imagine you're sitting him i'm starting him over matt ryan uh i think everybody is you know just the one league that i have him in i'm starting him over matt ryan but would you start him over lamar jackson think everybody is. Just the one league that I have him in, I'm starting him over Matt Ryan.

I'm starting him over Lamar Jackson in the league where I have both. Would you start Carson Wentz or Justin Herbert? Herbert. Herbert, but I have him back. There are two spots apart. You were talking about a guy who's done some unsustainable things. Carson Wentz has got like 18 rushing touchdowns. He also has Dallas this week, though.

Okay, Chargers running backs. Give me your take. Circle back to the Baltimore game and put those two guys in the same spots. I mean, flex it best. I don't want to trust him if I don't have to. No, neither one's my top 25. I have Jackson higher right now. Kelly got more work last week.

And now we've got more work last week. So now we've got two games with him together, and we've got one of each. But Jackson has been the pass-catching back, at least. And even with Kelly getting more work, Jackson had more fantasy points last week. I wonder how much that injury played into it with Jackson, the fact that they came off their bye and he was still hurt. That's been such a problem for this guy in his career. It's so unfortunate that every time he gets an opportunity or a chance, there's an injury that bogs him down.

Hopefully, he's 100%. If he's 100%, you'll be a little bit more secure in trusting him. You can't have any confidence right now after what you saw last week against Jacksonville. He couldn't do it against Jacksonville. That's a frustrating thing. Their line has been bad.

It's been injured. They're missing two key pieces on their line. They give up a lot of points. They get into shootouts. They get into shootouts lately, the Chargers. So not conducive for the running game. Keenan Allen is a must start. It's just kind of weird.

And I'm not criticizing. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just pointing out it's a little weird. Justin Herbert is so good, yet you're only really ranking one Chargers wide receiver. And Hunter Henry has been kind of disappointing lately but he is a top eight or nine tight end for you but this is you know this is a credit to the chargers and we'll see what happens now but virgil green has scored touchdowns for them got you in their scored touchdowns for them you know they've just used

everything at their disposal and that's a credit to Herbert. Yeah. No, I agree. I just, right. You cannot start Jalen Guyton, but you could see him having a big play. Have you looked at Jalen Guyton's stat line? Have I brought this up on the podcast? I don't think so.

He has 13 targets this season. He has 258 receiving yards and three touchdowns. He has more yards on 13 targets than Deontay Johnson has on 41 targets. It is amazing. All right. So let me ask you about Hunter Henry. He's basically Nelson Aguilar take away last week's game. Yeah. Yeah.

But, but Aguilar had 10 targets last week and he has 13 for the year. Oh, take away, take away last week's game. Yeah. Okay, Hunter Henry is top nine. I know it's hard to sit him,

but he hasn't really been that great, and the Broncos, no tight ends, had 50 yards. They faced Johnnie Smith, Eric Ebron, the Tampa Bay guys. They faced Kelsey. Kelsey had a bad game only on three targets. Is Hunter Henry a must start? Are there any kind of streamers that you'd start over him?

You can make a case for Richard Rodgers. If Goddard was out, I would start Rodgers over him. Yeah, I'd still start Henry though. Who do you like better, Fant or Henry? Henry. Fant for me. I think maybe, and I wrote about this yesterday

in my tight end dynasty rankings, but I think we're maybe the Noah Fant as an elite tight end is happening, and we just haven't noticed it because of his injury and Drew Locke's injury. But he's getting seven targets per game, and he's been nine yards per target whenever Locke's been this quarterback. I think Fant might just be one of those guys. Okay. And then...

That would be a factor in Albert O because he got seven targets last week too. Is it as simple to say Melvin Gordon's a must-start if Phillip Lindsay doesn't play and he's in the Justin Jackson, Gus Edwards range if Phillip Lindsay does play?

Or is he better than that? I'm sorry. Hi. Just a hint better. Melvin Gordon. If Lindsey plays? Yeah. I mean, Gordon goes from a top 10 guy

to a top 15 guy, but... Oh, still top 15? Okay. I'd put him behind the G.O., Boston Scott, Jamal Williams group. Right. We're not starting Tim Patrick, are we? Who knows if he plays?

If he plays. When I ask that, you should assume I mean if he plays. Because I'm not going to start him if he doesn't play. I don't know if you mentioned his injury earlier. I forgot. No. No. We mentioned earlier in the week.

But you're right. I should have mentioned it. Yeah. So if he plays, would you start Tim Patrick? No. He's in that number three receiver range. I mean, look, prior to last week,

he'd been pretty successful. So game where he got hurt in the snow. Who knows? If he doesn't play, would you start Jerry Judy or Traquan Smith? No. Not Judy. Okay. Traquan. Traquan Smith? No. Not Judy. Traquan.

Rams at Dolphins. We have three games left. Let's try to do it in like six minutes. Here we go. Rams at Dolphins. You want to go back to that rankings dispute? For who? For whatever you were trying to extend. Oh, you mean at the beginning of the show?

Why are you not starting Jared Goff? Volume. Dolphins, I don't think, are getting the love that they should be getting based on their defense now that they're healthy. I just don't know what to expect from Jared Goff, to be honest with you. Okay.

And who's the best flex in this game? You're looking at Henderson, Gaskin, Rams wide receivers, Devontae Parker. Give me your top two flexes. I mean, if you're giving us Gaskin and Henderson, I think it's got to be Gaskin and Henderson. Yep. Over all the wide receivers.

Yeah. Yep. Interesting. So are you sitting Cup and woods no we're not okay so all right would you start like they are the definition of fomo are they because they haven't really had a lot of big games right it's like the washington game you can get the big play from robert woods out of nowhere you know you can get a jet sweep where he takes it into the end zone. I mean, it's just at some point they're going to have a big game.

It's just it's about they're too good. They're better than Devante Parker this week. Yes. Yeah. We assume Ramsey is going to be on Parker a little bit or a lot, maybe. That's what I would do. Mm hmm. OK. And Daryl Henderson, are you just hoping for a touchdown?

Yes. He's had 68 or more total yards in five of his last six games, so that's not bad. Yeah, if he doesn't score, I would still think he's likely to be better than most of the Jackson, Kelly, Edwards, Dobbins group. He's a starter.

I think you were a little unfair to Robert Woods and his fantasy production this year. He's had multiple 17-point games. He's had rushing touchdowns. He has one rushing touchdown. Okay, but he's had... He has 99 rushing yards. He's on pace for 226 rushing yards. He's on pace for 226 rushing yards.

He's on pace for 802 receiving yards. That's horrible. I have not been that hard on Robert Woods. He's been frustrating. You're right, but he has had multiple big games. You said he hasn't really had big games. No, they have not really had big games. They don't get a ton of targets.

They are not, you know, neither of them. Two games where there have been multiple targets for a wide receiver. Both of them have been Cooper Cup. It was week three at Buffalo when they were down huge. And then week six at San Francisco where they were also down. Multiple what? Multiple touchdowns? Multiple targets.

Multiple targets? Double digits and targets. Oh, double digits and targets. Okay. Yes. I'm just trying to do some comparisons. By the way, the six-minute goal is not happening. Would you start Justin Jefferson or a Rams wide receiver? Jefferson.

Jefferson and on the Rams and PPR. How about Brandon Ayuk? I'd start Ayuk over both. I'm sorry. I'd start Woods over Ayuk? I'd start Ayuk over both. I'm sorry. I'd start Woods over Ayuk in PPR. Ayuk over Cup. Miles Gaskin is top 15. Heath has him even higher than that. Top

10. So start Miles Gaskin. That's in PPR. And Henderson. Would you start Ayuk or Henderson? Henderson. I'd start Henderson. What'd start Henderson. What? Really?

The number one wide receiver for the 49ers against a team that gives up the most fantasy points to wide receivers? It's the number one wide receiver for the 49ers. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Against that great matchup. George Kittle's healthy. Uh-huh. I like Iyuk a lot, but I mean, you got to bank on the touches for Anderson. You do, but you don't get any catches out of it.

The Dolphins have been pretty bad against running backs. The Dolphins, 5.06 yards per carry allowed a running back, so it is a good matchup. Alright, here we go. Two more games. These ones are lame. New England and Buffalo. I mean, they're great. We love football. My stat of the game was about Cole Beasley.

Like I said, 70 yards or a touchdown in 13 of his last 17 games. And we already debated Josh Allen. You're starting Stefan Diggs. Is Cole Beasley better? He's better than all the running backs in this game, right?

You know what? Why am I talking about Cole Beasley? Why am I not talking about John Brown? Let's talk about John Brown and Beasley. Who do i talking about cole beasley why am i not talking about john brown let's talk about john brown and beasley who do you like better beasley beasley okay are you starting them both or what what's the what's the deal john brown would be a number three receiver at best um i just don't know how healthy is i know he's practicing full but he's been doing that quite a bit and then end of the week he has week, he has some setback for whatever reason. I just don't know how healthy he is, so I don't have a lot of confidence in John Brown.

No, I love John Brown, and I'm trying not to drop John Brown, but he's in that category of I need to see him run and look like John Brown again before I can use him. Would you start, let's say, Justin Jackson or Cole Beasley? Jackson, I mean, Beasley and PPR easily, and probably in both. I'd probably go Jackson and non, but Beasley for sure and PPR. The Jets are at Kansas City, and the stat of the game that I think I'm right about, but I ran out of time to double check, is this.

Patrick Mahomes has thrown less than 30 passes and scored 24 or fewer fantasy points in six points for passing touchdown leagues in three of his last four games. So the passes is what I'm focusing on. Less than 30 passes in three of his last four games. I know I'm right about that. In his previous two seasons,

Mahomes threw less than 30 passes in only six games. Two of those games were weeks one and two of 2018. So like his second and third starts of his career. It's been a really... I'm pretty sure the stat is wrong. Why? I'm not counting the Denver game in which he got hurt, by the way. Buffalo, he had 225, so that's 11, right?

Fantasy points plus two touchdowns, so that's 23 plus 36 rushing yards. What? I know. I'm definitely not wrong about it. I'm talking about the passing here. Okay, so not the less than 24 fantasy points. 24 or fewer in three of his last four, no? He might have fumbled, Heath.

I'm looking at his game. Yeah, I'm looking at his page right here. 24 points against Buffalo. Probably'm looking at his game. Yeah, I'm looking at his page right here. 24 points against Buffalo. Probably some fumbles or something. Okay, so anyway. Anyway, there's a different offense. They're not throwing the ball downfield as much. I feel like teams are just daring them to run.

So I don't really know what to say about that because you have Mahomes in your top three. This is a get-right game. Okay. Okay. This game is easy. Jamison Crowder, if he plays would be ranked where? Around 20. If he has a full practice and plays, I'd say around 15. All right. All right. Great. And where are you starting any other Chiefs wide receiver other than Hill?

No, I don't think Sammy Watkins is going to play again. And it's just so hard to figure which of Hardman or Robinson will be good. Start Kelsey. Chiefs DST start them too. I think so. Yeah. Don't overlook Braxton Berrios too if you're stuck.

I mean, you know, he's had some decent performances when James McRowder's been out. Yeah. Don't overlook Braxton Berrios, too, if you're stuck. I mean, you know, he's had some decent performances when James McCratter's been out. Yeah. I think I actually have him currently ranked ahead of Mims in full PPR. Looking forward to this game. Thanks for listening, everybody. For Jamie and Heath, I am Adam. We will talk to you tomorrow.

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