Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC)! Mahomes? Chargers RBs? Javonte? (12/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 23, 2021

We have a lot of developments to cover for the Thursday night game (4:40). Is A.J. Brown a start? Should you play it safe with a Thursday guy? We'll also give you players we love (8:40) and players t...o avoid (12:00). You might want to sit most of your Dolphins, but Ronald Jones is set for a big week ... News and notes (15:15) and some players to add (22:00) as we react to the latest news. Which Chiefs WR should you consider? Is Josh Kelley worth a look? And we have One Question for Each Game (24:00) ... Start or Sit for Ravens-Bengals (31:00), Bills-Patriots (40:00), Steelers-Chiefs (49:30), Dolphins-Saints (58:30), Broncos-Raiders (1:03:40), Chargers-Texans (1:08:50) and Jaguars-Jets (1:10:00) ... Email us at fantasfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. Tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. We are into week 16, and we might have A.J. Brown back tonight. And it looks like we will have Julio Jones, but not Elijah Mitchell. We'll talk about Thursday Night Football. And guys, are you ready for this matchup between the top two picks in the NFL draft? Boy, that is flying under the radar, huh? Trevor Lawrence versus Zach Wilson. Should we start
Starting point is 00:01:47 with that game? Are they also the worst two rookie quarterbacks this year? Trey Lance? Well, I mean, Lance in his one start was better than they've been. I guess so. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah. Maybe the worst two rookie quarterbacks of the last decade. They have combined for 15 touchdowns and 25 interceptions. And in a combined 22 games since week one, they have thrown 10
Starting point is 00:02:19 touchdown passes. They threw five touchdown passes in week one and 10 since. But enough about that. I have a really tough call to make in one league. This is how stupid this league is, but it's that giant office league. Heath knows. Well, you guys both know, I think. Yeah. Where I may have
Starting point is 00:02:35 gotten, I got so lucky to beat what might have been the best team in the history of that league that had, it's you start one quarterback, one running back, one wide receiver, and two flexes. And that team was Aaron Rodgers, Jonathan Taylor, and Cooper Cupp, and I still managed to win. So it's a 2014 league,
Starting point is 00:02:55 and somebody dropped the Jets DST a couple weeks ago. So I picked them up, and I have a tough choice to make between the Jets DST and the Vikings DST, and I'm torn. Jets, I think. I'm the Jets DST and the Vikings DST and I'm torn. Jets? I think. I'm leaning Jets. Yeah, but I mean, Stafford takes sacks. That's the one thing.
Starting point is 00:03:11 The Vikings have been doing a good job getting the quarterback. Well, before we get into the main show, I just want to talk a little bit of trash. I'm facing Jamie in the podcast league. He's the one seed. Pretty sure I'm going to upset Jamie. Feel good about it. It would be a welcome return after what I did to you. Fixing Jamie in the podcast league. He's the one seed. Pretty sure I'm going to upset Jamie. Feel good about it.
Starting point is 00:03:28 It would be a welcome return after what I did to you. In our IDP league, yes. You kicked my butt. And two, this is even worse. Heath and I share a team, the other podcast league. Does Jamie know about this team? What you've done in this league? I don't want to get into that again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Heath did not put any waiver claims in last night. He doesn't even care. Show a little bit of respect. You've done the waivers every week of the season. It's week 16. You should have looked. Did you even look? No.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah. So you didn't put any waiver claims in? No, I did. I just didn't do it until late. No, Jamie. This week is supposed to be the championship game. No, it's not. Last week was supposed to be the first round of the playoffs. Adam forgot to set the playoff matchups, and our team had a really bad week.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So he just added a week to the regular season last week and started the playoffs this week. No way. For real. That's not what happened, man. Did you add a week to the regular season? I added a week to the regular season because... Okay, so what was the last week supposed to be then? The last week of the regular season.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I forgot to put... The 10th inning league? Yes. See, you know, it was defaulted to last year where the playoffs started in week... You waited until last week to do that, though? No, he waited until during the Sunday show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 During the Sunday night show, I went to check our score in that league and noticed there were no matchups because he didn't set the playoff matchups because the league rules said the playoffs were supposed to have started. So he just added a week to the regular season. I sent an email.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I sent a note to the league two straight weeks saying that the playoffs start in week 16. I made weeks saying that the playoffs start in week 16. I made it very clear the playoffs start in week 16. I just forgot to add that extra week. Okay, let's get to some quick Thursday stuff. Fantasy cops, you're arrested. Let's get to some quick Thursday stuff. The Titans will not have the left side of their offensive line.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Presumably, they'll be able to use backups there, but the starters are out. Luan and Saffold against the Niners. Well, that depends. Did they send a note to the rest of the league saying that they can do that? No, they're just adding two linemen during the game. Will you guys help me set my lineup tonight with the two Thursday games
Starting point is 00:05:38 that relate to all these pieces of news that you're giving? Yeah, the other news is that A.J. Brown is likely to play, according to Ian Rappaport. Julio Jones is going to play. Eli Mitchell is out. All right, Heath. Go ahead. So I have Justin Jackson, DeAndre Swift, Devontae Freeman,
Starting point is 00:05:54 and Jeff Wilson. Do I start Wilson or hope one of Swift or Jackson plays? You need two or one spot? Two. I've got Freeman, so I could... I've got Freeman as kind of a backup plan for one of Swift or Jackson plays? You need two or one spot? Two. I've got Freeman, so I could, like I've got Freeman as a kind of a backup plan
Starting point is 00:06:08 for one of them. If you tell me that Freeman is getting his usual workload, then I like him better than Wilson. So, I think I would probably wait it out just to see what happens. Hope you get Jackson and Swift,
Starting point is 00:06:22 and if not, you've got Freeman and... Well, Jackson is obviously definitely playing. It's just a matter of is he a starter or is he a backup. Yeah, but he can't start him if he... Well, I mean, you saw what happened last week. It's the Texans. But you can't trust that, though.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You're not going to put him in your top 30 if Eckler plays, I assume. No, but I just don't love the setup for Jeff Wilson tonight. That's the problem. So then at wide receiver, I have A.J. Brown, Tyler Lockett, No, but I just don't love the setup for Jeff Olson tonight. That's the problem. So then at wide receiver, I have A.J. Brown, Tyler Lockett, Hunter Renfro, and Gabriel Davis, and I have to start three. I would start. It would just come down to Lockett and Davis. I'd play A.J. Brown for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And actually, it's a good question overall. Do you just play it safe with your Thursday guys, IJ Brown for sure. And actually, it's a good question overall. Do you just play it safe with your Thursday guys knowing the decent chance, I guess, that a player, any player could end up on the COVID list?
Starting point is 00:07:14 And I did that last week with Mike Williams. It didn't work out. But if you have some uncertainty, you know, it's just, obviously we see what's going on in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Do you just play it safe with a guy? If it's close, just go with the Thursday guy because at least you know they're playing. I'll tell you another part of this, not to go on a tangent, but I had some tough calls to make in a couple of 10-team leagues of dropping Alexander Madison. I just played this narrow in my head of Dobbin Cook
Starting point is 00:07:38 being placed on the COVID list. I didn't want to drop him. I have him in this same league we're talking about and i've got a roster crunch and i just can't same thing yeah yeah can't drop them yeah all right uh so so i would i would in your case heath i would probably i think you have to play wilson just because so you're gonna play brown and Wilson? Brown is the easy one for me. I would play Brown. I just fear, like, Devontae Freeman could be bad.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Where are you guys ranking A.J. Brown? Let me talk about A.J. Brown here. He's top 20 for me. He's closer to 30 for me. Okay. It's such a good matchup. Without Mosley, yeah. They really struggle. And it's not a lower leg injury he'sley yeah they really they struggle and it's not a lower leg injuries coming back from I think he's going to be okay let's go I don't know but okay
Starting point is 00:08:33 yes it's part of my big upsetting over Jamie in the podcast league let's go AJ Brown all right we'll compare him to other players throughout the show we've got a Sunday NFL on CBS doubleheader and the early window features two huge divisional matchups with first place on the line when Josh Allen and the Bills meet Mac Jones and the Patriots for the top spot in the AFC East, and the Ravens battle the Bengals for supremacy in the AFC North. This is a great week.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Later, the Steelers try to stay in the playoff hunt when they take on the best team in the conference, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. It all begins with the NFL today at noon Eastern, doubleheader action this Sunday on CBS. Jamie, start of the week, who we got? Ronald Jones. And it's a nice setup for him with Leonard Fournette out.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Last season, we talked about this on Tuesday, last season, in four games in place of Fournette, he had at least 19 total touches in each game. He had at least 84 rushing yards in each game. He scored three touchdowns in those four games. It's a great matchup against a Carolina defense that has struggled against the run recently with the stellar likes of Mike Davis, Miles Gaskin, and Devin Singletary, all scoring 13 or more PPR points. I look at that as kind of the floor for
Starting point is 00:09:49 Ronald Jones because I think he'll score. I think it'll be a run heavy approach. He's a top 10 guy for me this week. I got asked a question on a radio show before our podcast today, Joe Mixon or Ronald Jones, and it made me pause for a second because I haven't ranked Mixon yet, but I would start Ronald
Starting point is 00:10:05 Jones over Joe Mixon for example okay uh Clyde Edwards either Ronald Jones Ronald Jones all right Heath who you like this week um like I'll just stay in the same game I Bruce Arian says Antonio Brown looks like himself from before the ankle injury and that suspension certainly gave him plenty of time to recover we don't expect Mike Evans there's definitely no Chris Godwin this could be a deal where Antonio Brown just comes back and is the number one wide receiver or number one not named Cooper Cup um so yeah he's a top eight wide receiver for me in all formats and I'm just firing him up and start him over just about everybody. So he's taken me through the thought process.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Cause I don't disagree with you, but just your concern over AJ Brown coming back from a three game absence from a chest injury in a good matchup and Antonio Brown. And I know the quarterbacks obviously are different, but, um, just in terms of the comfort level with each guy separate from their teams, but coming back from absences. I've been looking for something i mean i'm i'm trusting bruce arians a little bit here but i've been looking for something optimistic about aj brown like if they if somebody would just say yeah he's fine or there's there's no concern or i don't even know what his chest injury was and i think the bigger thing and you kind of said this with chase edmonds they held him out an extra week.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Well, it feels like Antonio Brown's been held out an extra two or three weeks because of the suspension. So I don't, like I don't, and this could be wrong, but my impression is if he had not been suspended, this would not be his first game back. True, but he hasn't been practicing. You know, so like, again, I don't know. I'm just curious because, you know, like you said, you're i'm just curious because you know like you said
Starting point is 00:11:46 your concern i'm assuming your concern over aj brown is injury related your concern over antonio brown not as much my concern over aj brown is mostly injury rate related um i think there's a chance that the titans offense is just a dumpster fire as well without half their offensive line and tana hill hasn't exactly produced good passings. No, no, I get the other parts of it. I was just curious because, you know, you have two guys coming off absences and you're saying Antonio Brown could be a top five guy and AJ Brown's close to the 30 for you.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So just, you know, the, yeah, the comparison. All right. We've got a lot of good a Browns this week. Antonio,
Starting point is 00:12:17 good host does Adam. You ask questions. Yeah, that's fine. The good host lets other people ask questions to Antonio Brown, AJ Brown, and a moderate St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:12:24 When you, when you, when you said that about me a month ago. Well, I was probably joking. No lie. Players to avoid. Jamie, why don't you start? Who are we sitting? I'm nervous about Devontae Parker. I know he typically does well in tough matchups.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And we know Marshawn Lattimore hasn't exactly had the best of seasons. But, you know, when you look at some of the guys that he has done well against, I think Parker could struggle. I think Tua could be a little bit overwhelmed. I know you like this scenario typically for the Saints, Adam. We haven't really seen it in a while. And obviously it's different with Drew Brees by comparison. But that place is going to be a nightmare, I think,
Starting point is 00:13:03 for a younger quarterback who has shown some flaws. I know Tua's played better. Dolphins have won six straight. He's been a big part of it. But, you know, this is going to be a tough test against a tough defense that's going to be – he'll be under duress. So Parker with Waddle back in this scenario makes me a little bit nervous. Not a starting wide receiver in a two-receiver league for me.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, I went actually through the – I'm sorry. I went through the last five Monday night football home games before 2020 when they had fans and actually was pretty surprised quarterbacks good quarterbacks did pretty well uh on the road at new orleans we've talked about that a lot though because they're chasing points uh yeah maybe but they also were like stafford matt ryan and deshaun watson um I think that chasing points thing is the key. Drew Brees was a maniac in the Dome in primetime. This game has an over-under of 39. The Dolphins project a total of 18,
Starting point is 00:13:56 like the second or third lowest. And this Saints team has been a lot different, especially defensively lately, but they've been dominating time of possession, the fourth best time of possession margin since Taysom Hill became the quarter quarterback, which makes sense. They're going to run the ball a lot and not throw it very much. You look at the quarterbacks who they've faced over the last six weeks. No one's thrown for more than 260 yards since week nine.
Starting point is 00:14:20 There's one quarterback, Josh Allen with more than one touchdown pass over that stretch okay heath who are you avoiding other than tua well yeah that's i was side to the dolphins um i think is a good answer but i'm i'm pretty worried about um aj dylan again and we said it last week like he's just got to score a touchdown and he'll probably be okay but i don't think he's going to score a touchdown every week and i don't really like his portion of the role right now with the packers it's kind of seemed like last week aaron jones maybe was a little bit more healthy and maybe it's not quite a 50 50
Starting point is 00:14:56 split i'm not sure so i i would like it if i didn't have to start aj dylan so would you start justin jackson if eckler's out over AJ Dillon? I would. Are you going to go with Jeff Wilson tonight over AJ Dillon? I would. Okay. How about Deontay Foreman? I would. Are we lowering Foreman with
Starting point is 00:15:17 Saffold and Luan being out? Yeah, I guess a little bit, but they're still going to feed him. So we'll see. Let me just stay on the Dolphins real quick, more or less knock this game out. What about Jalen Waddell? I would still start him, certainly in PPR.
Starting point is 00:15:39 That's where they'll attack. Lattimore won't go inside. He'll stay in the slot. So I think he's still trustworthy, again, more so in PPR than non-PPR. PPR, I like him as a top 20 wide receiver. He's a number two.
Starting point is 00:15:53 You're probably starting him. Time for all the news and notes. Here we go. Austin Eckler and Jalen Guyton are on the reserve COVID list. What we have seen for much of the season is a player that goes on the COVID list, vaccinated or not, unvaccinated, no chance to play without 10 days at least.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Vaccinated usually does not come off in time for the game, but they're trying to speed up the process, change the protocols a little bit. We will see. Eckler right now is on the COVID list. Did we ever get an explanation of why he was reported to be going on the COVID list Monday and didn't go on until Wednesday?
Starting point is 00:16:25 I think from what I saw was he was considered a close contact initially, and then they thought that he was okay. I could be totally wrong on this, so I apologize. But I wonder if he tested positive after the fact. I think if we could get that information, it would be him. If he tested positive on Monday, he would have a better chance than if he tested positive for the first time yesterday yes that is true let me see if I can find that as I do think
Starting point is 00:16:50 um okay reports alright I'll see if I can find it anyway Justin Jackson is 46% rostered Lamar Jackson is day to day he did not practice yesterday Joe Mixon did practice, so he practiced in full. He looks good to go.
Starting point is 00:17:08 DeAndre Swift and Jamal Williams both back at practice. So does that mean we should not be right now relying on Craig Reynolds in our lineup? I think that's what that means, probably. The only thing I think you look at with Craig Reynolds is if Swift doesn't return,
Starting point is 00:17:26 I think he's the best Lions running back. Reynolds is. I would agree with that. Don't drop him. If Swift is back, then you have a nightmare in your hands because I'm going to guess all three probably have some role with Williams still probably the third guy. And if Swift is back, I think it's a Reynolds wrap. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:42 James Conner and Rondale Moore mispractice. They have a Saturday game. So you've got to keep an eye out more or whatever. But James Conner's still not practicing. You can use that joke twice. They have two Reynolds on their team. They do. It's true. Yeah. It would probably not be good for the other Reynolds if Swift played.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Also right now, don't know about Jared Goff. Jacksonville designated tight end Dan Arnold to return from IR. So, I mean, it's something to keep an eye on because there is some appeal to James O'Shaughnessy. And it may be Arnold if he plays at the Jets. Kadarius Toney is going to come off the COVID list, but he's probably not going to be available this week.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You're not going to want him anyway. Michael Carter is among 15 Jets who are on the reserve COVID list. What do you think about Tevin Coleman, who really wasn't that bad? Wrong Michael Carter. The other Michael Carter. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm sorry. I got a text from... That's not fair. From Schrager's favorite
Starting point is 00:18:37 friend, Andrew Ballmer, who used to be one of our producers in a panic. What do I do? Michael Carter's on IR. Wrong Michael Carter. You've got to be kidding me, Roto World. Why would you do that? That is so cool.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Adam Schefter tweeted, Michael Carter running back, deleted his tweet, changed it to the cornerback. Fine. All right, sigh of relief. Roto World doesn't exist anymore also. NBC Edge. You still type in Roto-World. It goes there.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Jamison Crowder, missed practice. Pittsburgh looking at two linebackers and a starting offensive lineman on the COVID list right now. Pat Fryer missed practice. Yeah, go ahead. Is Jamison Crowder questionable or was that a veteran rest day?
Starting point is 00:19:21 I don't think it was just a rest day. He was listed with some ailment, but I'm not sure. All right, let's see if I can get this so much here. Pat Frymuth mispractice. Cleveland put cornerback Greg Newsome on the COVID list. Austin Hooper is off, and David Njoku has a knee injury. So we could see maybe we'll go back to Austin Hooper this week. Denzel Ward has a groin injury for Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:19:44 They're a little beat up going into this game at Green Bay on Saturday. Kareem Hunt not expected to play. Miles Sanders was estimated to miss practice. He's still a little nicked up, but assuming he should play against the Giants. This situation really bothers me because the fact that he left in the fourth quarter, he said after the game to Mike Garofalo of the NFL Network that they were just resting him because he's been so banged up lately. The game was still in, not jeopardy, but it was close.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Like, it was weird that he wasn't out there. But also knowing that they had such a quick turnaround and they trust Jordan Howard, it just really, I hope we get to Friday and he's fine. I was equally nervous about Ron Rivera's quote about Antonio Gibson because Gibson came back after the toe injury, but Rivera said it's basically the same thing that happened to him last week on a Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Last year. Last year on a Tuesday with the toe injury. But that situation, though, he didn't play in the game. He left and was done. That was against Pittsburgh. I remember that one. Yeah. Should we be picking up Jared Patterson right now?
Starting point is 00:20:50 You can. I don't know how many people are going to trust Jared Patterson, though. I think it's Jonathan Williams, right? I know his last name is Williams. He's the third guy. I think it'd be a mess. Okay. DJ Moore is going to be a game-time decision. Brandon Cooks is on the reserve COVID
Starting point is 00:21:05 list. That stinks. Teddy Bridgewater is out this week. Boy, the Raiders secondary. If we had any faith in Drew Locke, the Raiders secondary is a mess right now. Jonathan Abrams starting safety. He's out for the season. He has a terrible grade from PFF and coverage, but he still is a starting safety. Cornerback Trayvon Mullen is back on IR and two defensive backs are on the reserve COVID list. So it is a really, really thin secondary for the Raiders. Probably won't affect the rankings much,
Starting point is 00:21:36 I assume. The Chargers look like they're getting Asante Samuel back finally, starting cornerback. He's missed four straight games. Kansas City activated Josh Gordon and linebacker Willie Gay. The Chargers DST is available, by the way. Good God, go get them. Yeah. Starting cornerback, he's missed four straight games. Kansas City activated Josh Gordon and linebacker Willie Gay. Will Disley.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The Chargers DST is available, by the way. Good God, go get them. Yeah. They've been really disappointing, though. Even in some great matchups. Yeah, but now Cook was not there. I mean. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Will Disley's on the reserve COVID list. Ramondre Stevenson mispracticed with an illness. Emmanuel Sanders, nope. He's practicing a little bit. He's day-to-day. Teron Smith, mispractice. Quentin Nelson and Ryan Kelly,
Starting point is 00:22:10 two pro-ball offensive linemen, mispractice, but it was an illness and personal reasons, so they should be good for the Colts, we think, on Saturday. And it looks like the Colts
Starting point is 00:22:18 will probably not have starting cornerback, Rakia Sin, for this game at Arizona on Saturday. All right. There we go. Well, actually, no, for this game at Arizona on Saturday. All right. There we go. Well, actually, no, we're not done there.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Let's update the waiver wire talk right now with the new COVID announcements. I think Justin Jackson's pretty obvious to go get him. But what about Josh Kelly? He'll have a role too. What about the Kansas City wide receivers? Heath, why don't you start with Kansas City's wide receivers? Are we picking up any of them? I would still favor Meikle Hartman as the best option. We have had a theory in the past that if something ever happened to Tyreek Hill, Meikle Hartman could fill his role. And I think that's originally what he was drafted to do. So
Starting point is 00:23:01 we'll find out if he can do 70% of what Tyreek Hill does. I'm a little bit interested in Pringle. I think Gordon's a dart throw, but none of these guys are top 36 wide receivers for me. Just to give you context to Hardman, so five games without Tyreek Hill going back to 2019, he scored 11 PPR points or more in three of them. So he has had some success, clearly clearly when Tyreek's not been there.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And we've never seen no Tyreek or Kelsey. It's just an amazing opportunity for targets. And, uh, what I, one thing I did notice about Hardman is that his snap share has been going down recently and Pringle seems to be on the rise. Yep.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I don't know what that means. Yeah, no, this is more about him stepping in for Tyreek, not him by himself. Right, but I'm just wondering if Pringle is the one they trust the most. I think that's, yeah. I'm more curious to see what they're going to do replacing Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Well, where's Mahomes right now in your rankings? I hope he's still in Kansas City because if he's not there, then we really have a problem. I mean, he's a low-end starter. The only guy that I would consider at this point over him
Starting point is 00:24:15 would be Tyler Huntley. Which is crazy. But I think that's kind of how you have to approach it, right? But as bad as Dak has been, I'm still starting Dak over Mahomes. I kind of like Dak this week because he got Washington on a short week and he's been really good at home. We kind of forget they've been on the road for three straight games.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. Yeah, but there were a lot of Cowboys fans at those games. Pardon me. All right, Josh Kelly, is he worth an ad? Yeah. I think in deeper leagues, yeah. But, you know, Justin Jackson seems to be
Starting point is 00:24:51 the safe option, you know, just based on what we saw last time they played when Eckler was dinged up. All right. Good thing it is Houston. You know, there's a possibility for both guys to get
Starting point is 00:25:00 in the end zone, maybe. All right. Let's go one question for each game. Let's start with Baltimore-Cincinnati. If Lamar Jackson is out, who is the best quarterback in this game? Huntley. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I kind of love Burrow. Am I crazy? I just... Baltimore's secondary is so bad, and their run defense is so good. It just makes sense that Burrow would have to throw a lot. I'm with you, but I think Huntley's ceiling is higher. So it's just a matter of will he fulfill it? I think Burrow's floor is safer because you've seen Huntley.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's a small sample size of three games, but Burrow's been all over the place lately, and they still have some offensive line concerns. So I was actually hoping for Burrow that Nixon wouldn't play because then it would have been a little bit more on him. But I still think you've got to trust Burrow at this point that he should deliver. He was great against them the first time around,
Starting point is 00:25:59 and like you said, the secondary is a mess. Yeah, you guys have him in your top 12, so I feel like I'm less on an island. Like you said, the secondary is a mess. Yeah, you guys have him in your top 12, so that was... I feel more... I feel like I'm less on an island. I didn't realize you guys would all have Burrow in your top 12. I like Burrow better than Mahomes and Brady.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, I wish I had blocked you from picking up Burrow in one of the leagues we're playing against. I didn't even see he was available. Buffalo and New England. Any confident starts other than Diggs and Allen in the Buffalo-New England game? Assuming Damian Harris is back and Ramondre Stevenson is out, then I'd start Harris in non-PPR confidently.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And I'm starting Dawson Knox. He's been better when Beasley's not been good, and he had six targets the last time they played. If he'd not dropped passes, he would have been good. And I'm starting Gabriel Davis. I do think Jacoby Myers has a chance to help you if there is no Kendrick Bourne and Nelson Aguilar, which
Starting point is 00:26:49 is where it is right now. I think Hunter Henry has a chance to help you if there is no Kendrick Bourne and Nelson Aguilar, which it is right now. They're not going to only throw three passes. I doubt that's going to be the game plan. I'm sure Buffalo is going to force them to throw. So,
Starting point is 00:27:04 yeah, I think this game could actually be a little bit more high-scoring than people think. What's the number, Heath? I haven't looked. I will have that. It is currently 43.5. I'm trying to guess. You're just not even listening to me.
Starting point is 00:27:21 No, 43.5. I was going to guess 41.5. It's low, but not as low. Like, Chicago-Seattle is lower. Jacksonville and the Jets is lower. Miami and the New Orleans lower. Okay. I'm going to take the over on that.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I think they're actually going to be, this is going to be a little bit more high scoring than people think. Nah, I don't know. I could see the Patriots scoring 10 points. Pittsburgh-K Kansas City. Who's the second best wide receiver in this game behind Deontay Johnson? Pittsburgh, Kansas City. Assuming Hill is out.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Claypool. Probably Claypool. You said New England scored 10 points. You know they're favored, right? Yeah, I don't think... I have this issue where I just don't believe in them. but you do believe in the bills i do i i still think that they i still think they have i said this a couple weeks ago they have the best roster in football i think from top to bottom uh this is their season let's go bills i don't know why know why. I'm a Bills fan, which is not good for the Bills.
Starting point is 00:28:26 You know if the Bills lose this game, it'll be 500. I have so much stock in Josh Allen. I just need him to play well. It's not a good... I mean, it's just... It's kind of like how I felt about Brady against the Saints last week. It's like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:28:40 This guy, can he get through the Saints? Well, no. Allen's got a better track record against the Patriots than... He's got one good game, right? Two. Two? I guess I only looked at last year.
Starting point is 00:28:50 He had one huge game. Yeah. Let's see. Miami, New Orleans. How does having Waddle, Parker, and Gasicki all available change the rankings? I mean, it makes me like Parker and Gusecki less. Is Gusecki
Starting point is 00:29:10 a top 10 tight end? Yeah. I hate tight end this week. Absolutely hate it. Who do you guys think is going to win the Bills-Patriots game? I have to do my pick in a few minutes after the show. I think Buffalo wins.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'll stick with Belichick. Okay. Denver and the Raiders. Are Josh Jacobs and Hunter Renfro good starts in this tough matchup? Yes. You guys have a lot of faith in Josh Jacobs.acobs a lot of i don't love josh jacobs but it's it's like he's he's getting you know almost 20 touches a week so it's hard to overlook that uh chargers texans mike williams bounce back week
Starting point is 00:29:57 oh wait where's the laughter there's the laughter i i don't know my soundboard well. Yeah, I think he bounced it back. It's the Texans. Yeah, if he scores. I think the Texans allow the eighth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Maybe it's the quarterbacks. I think it's the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's because teams run on them. Exactly, yeah. Jacksonville and the Jets. Is Tevin Coleman a starter if Michael Carter is out? And I sent that when I thought Michael Carter, the running back, was out. So let's change that to, is Michael Carter a starter? Is he Michael's starter this week? He's a flex.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I think he's their best running back. I think he's their best running back. I hope he's their best running back. I hope Tevin Coleman last week was a byproduct of he played better than Carter running the ball and Carter was coming off the layoff. So it's, it's a little bit of blind faith in Carter and the Jaguars run defense has clearly shown some flaws the last couple of weeks. So I don't mind Carter's a flex,
Starting point is 00:31:06 but I don't love him. Yeah. The last week was pretty disappointing. Hey, we got news. Good news. Yes. Taylor Heineke's back.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah. I don't know why I didn't bring that up. It came out after I sent my notes, but Taylor Heineke, he's out of the protocol and he will practice. Good. Wahoo. Baltimore at Cincinnati. Let's start he's out of the protocol, and he will practice. Good. Wahoo! Baltimore at Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Let's start here. Stat of the game. Joe Burrow is Pro Football Focus's top-rated quarterback for the season. His passing grade. He has the highest passing grade. Is that something? Wouldn't have thought so.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Hmm. Yeah. Interesting. So there's that. How about the wide receivers in this game? Stat of the game number two. The Bengals have now allowed 80 yards to eight wide receivers in their last eight games. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:56 The Ravens have allowed 84 or more yards to eight wide receivers in their last six games. That's even worse. Jamie, talk to me about the wide receivers in this game. Confident? Yes. I think, well, it depends. Like, we're talking Tyler Boyd? We could be.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You tell me. I'm not confident in Tyler Boyd, but I am confident in Jason Higgins. And then Baltimore's guys, too? Marquise Brown? Yeah, Baltimore's guy. Yeah, I mean, it's so weird to say that Marquise Brown is a better PBR receiver
Starting point is 00:32:34 than a non-PBR guy because it's just not the way we think of him. But he's just racking up receptions at this point and not doing anything down the field. I'm starting the three top receivers in this game. I'm starting Chase, I'm starting Higgins, I'm starting Marquis Brown. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Over, say, Chase Claypool? Yeah. I'm going to start Tyler Boyd over Chase Claypool. How about Jalen Waddell versus the Bengals guys? How about all of them? Jalen Waddell versus all three of these wide receivers? I would still probably start Waddle over all of them in PPR.
Starting point is 00:33:06 In non-PPR, I would take all three of them over Waddle. I'd go Higgins, Waddle, Brown, Chase in PPR. Higgins, Waddle. Okay. So, I love this stat that Mark Andrews had such a huge game last week with Tyler Huntley. He was the only player with a catch of longer than eight yards for the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:33:31 which is really amazing. So pretty conservative for Huntley. But, all right, so where are you ranking Huntley? This is assuming Lamar Jackson is out. If Jackson's play is, I guess he's a must start because you guys have Huntley ranked pretty high. So, Heath, where's Huntley right now? I think eight.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Are you nervous about that? Who's he ahead of? Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady. And Joe Burrow. And Joe Burrow. And yes, I am nervous about that. Mahomes is obviously, I'll speak for myself, but I assume I'll speak for Heath. If everybody comes back, Mahomes is better than Tyler Huntley.
Starting point is 00:34:06 For 100%. If Evans plays, I'd probably move Brady ahead of Huntley. Yeah, I think you guys have Huntley ahead of, say, Kirk Cousins, who is a pretty steady quarterback, but he's facing the Rams. You want to talk about that decision? There really is no decision. I think you're just banking on upside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Is it ignoring downside, though? Because Huntley is... He scored 16 points. Cousins has quite a bit of downside as well. Yeah, he does throw two touchdowns every week. But he also threw 78 yards last week. All right, so how are you looking at the Ravens running backs right now? Heath, I'll throw this one to you.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It really looked like Freeman was dominating here. Latavius Murray had five touches combined over two games, and then last week they basically split. With no explanation of why that happened, I don't think we have any way to start Freeman with any confidence. He's a high-end flex. I'd still prefer Freeman to Murray, but I kind of think if they have a carry from the one-yard line, it's probably
Starting point is 00:35:11 going to be Murray. And I'm less confident now that Freeman's going to be the pass catching back because they were throwing it to Murray. So I'm starting most of the people we talked about over Devontae Freeman. The one concern I have is this was a change with a change at the quarterback position too. I wonder how much that matters. Do they feel more comfortable with Murray in an expanded role with Huntley? And I don't know why, but it's just something that, something changed for them last week
Starting point is 00:35:41 because it was him filling in. And the last time that he filled in as a starter was murray was still either out or working his way back from the ankle injury in the bears game yeah okay would you start davante freeman or let's how about tony pollard pollard i'll start probably oh okay So let's go to the Bengals, because we know we're starting Mark Andrews, and we talked about Marquise Brown. Yeah, what is it that got Joe Burrow into your top 12? The crappiness at quarterback,
Starting point is 00:36:14 or the enticing matchup? Yes. The enticing matchup. I mean, you know, he showed you that he can have success against his defense when they were in a better standing in the first meeting in week seven. You know, some of his struggles have not been on him. You know, I mean, we go back to, I forget the game,
Starting point is 00:36:34 where Jamar Chase dropped the 80-yard pass that would have been a touchdown that turned into an interception, I think three weeks ago. The secondaries are so bad. It's just so beat up. It's, you know, it's, it's, it's such an opportunity and Joe Mixon has not been running well. And so now you're facing a very good run defense still. And you know, your quarterback should win the game for you. It's, this is, this is one of the biggest games in, in recent Bengals history, for sure. You know, they can
Starting point is 00:37:00 set themselves up to win a division. And so it's, it's Burrow's time to shine, and I think he will. This is going to be a great game. Really excited for this one. All right, so do you have Mahomes and Brady ahead or behind Burrow? Brady ahead right now, but I might change that. But Burrow ahead of Mahomes. I've got Burrow behind him. I am pretty excited about what he could do to the secondary.
Starting point is 00:37:25 The only thing that worries me is what has happened to this Bengals offense. If Huntley's bad, because what this Bengals offense has been whenever the other team doesn't score points has just been do not throw the football. He had 22 passes last week against Denver when they scored
Starting point is 00:37:42 10. He had 24 passes against Pittsburgh when they scored 10. He had 29 against the Raiders when they scored. If the opposing offense doesn't show up, Joe Burrow does not throw. Yep, absolutely. That's worth noting for sure. Joe Mixon, he has been struggling a bit lately. Do you even give any consideration to sitting him? I mean, I think if you have... He's going to be ranked behind Ronald Jones
Starting point is 00:38:09 and Justin Jackson for me. So take that into account. I had him a little lower. I didn't realize he was a full participant yesterday in practice. I think he has done an outstanding job of showing us, like, what he's done the last couple weeks has not been very predictive of what he's going to do the next week.
Starting point is 00:38:29 So he had a stretch where it went five yards per carry against Baltimore and then two yards per carry against the Jets and then five yards per carry against the Browns. And then he's been bad yards per carry the last couple of weeks. I am just going to start Joe Mixon. Yeah, I mean, you could start Ronald Jones over him, I assume. Cordaro Patterson's in a great spot. Maybe Miles Sanders? These guys over Mixon? Yeah, no, like I said, if Austin Eckler's out,
Starting point is 00:38:54 I'm starting Justin Jackson over Joe Mixon. Okay. I wish we had a better understanding of what his role in the passing game is, because that is so inconsistent. Five catches, zero catches, very annoying. All right, we talked about Chase and Higgins. We're not really starting Boyd, but we like the other guys.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And real quick, CJ Uzama. Three catches, 91 yards, and two touchdowns in the first meeting on only three targets. Any interest in Uzama? No. How about a DST? No.
Starting point is 00:39:23 How about a break? Sure. All right, let's do that. We'll take a quick break on fantasy football today. Buffalo 27, New England 10 when we come back. Did you know that across Ontario, utility damage happens 19 times a day? That's over 4,222 incidents a year. Don't let your next dig be one that causes costly delays or safety risks. Before you break ground, make it a point to request a year. Don't let your next dig be one that causes costly delays or safety risks.
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Starting point is 00:40:01 Dirt Report. See, Buffalo 27, New England 10. That was my score prediction. What was the over-under there? 43.5. Yeah, see? That's how you go under. 27-10.
Starting point is 00:40:14 All right, anyway, that's not my real prediction, so don't hate me. Stat of the game. This is stupid and weird. Gabriel Davis has four or more targets in 15 games in his career. Four or more.
Starting point is 00:40:27 He has a touchdown in 10 of them. Two-thirds of his games where he has four or more targets, he's caught a touchdown. He's a touchdown machine. It's weird. So the Patriots, though, they haven't allowed more than 51 yards
Starting point is 00:40:39 to a wide receiver in six straight games. Haven't played the best ones, but still. But they did face the Bills in that weather game. What is your confidence level in Gabriel Davis? He's coming. It's relatively high. He's a low-end number two wide receiver who has big-time upside.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I don't think it would be all that surprising if the Patriots just took Stephon Diggs away and Davis was better. You're starting both, and you're starting Diggs over Davis. But I think there's some sneaky potential for him to have a big game. And it's really hard to find two or three wide receivers you want to start over. I like the fact that Beasley is out.
Starting point is 00:41:17 That helps. I would love if Emmanuel Sanders was out also, because then you're talking about that target potential definitely being there. So he's in a really good spot. You know, he's somebody like, you know, I like him better than Claypool. I like him better than Pittman. I like him better than Iuke tonight. I don't know how far you want to go, but I think he's got top 24 upside for sure.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And what if Sanders plays? Would you drop him behind, say, well, you won't be able to do that without you, but would you drop him behind Pittman? No. Okay. Why do you think, Jamie, this is going to be higher scoring? And it doesn't seem like you're too nervous about these matchups.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I think that Josh Allen is going to play well, and I think if Josh Allen plays well, the Patriots are going to have to respond. So we saw them last week have to throw, and they threw some success against a good Colts defense in a comeback effort. So I don't think it's going to play well. And I think if Josh Allen plays well, the Patriots are going to have to respond. So we saw them last week have to throw and they threw some success against a good Colts defense in a comeback effort. So I don't think it's going to be in the 50s, but I do think that's going to go over the number.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So I could see a 24-20, 27-24 type of game. It is pretty interesting. The Patriots have allowed four touchdown passes in their last six games. Look at the... Yeah, I know, but it's still impressive. They held Brady to 10 points. They held
Starting point is 00:42:30 Herbert to 16 points. Oh, they're great. This is not taking anything away from them. They're great. I just think Josh Allen shows up. Okay. Well, then let's go. And I think he'll show up with his legs, too. He is top five for you guys. He's, I think, third for Heath, fifth for Jamie. If both Ramondre Stevenson and Damian Harris play,
Starting point is 00:42:49 and Harris looks like he's going to play, and Stevenson had an illness that he mispracticed with, if they both play, who's the best running back in this game? Is Moss active? No, let's say Moss is inactive. Singletary. That's interesting. I'd probably still go Harris. Singletary. That's interesting. I'd probably still go Harris over Singletary,
Starting point is 00:43:07 but it'll be close. If Moss is inactive, would you start Singletary or Devontae Freeman? Singletary. Singletary. Even if Moss plays, I'd start Singletary. In his last three games without Zach Moss, he had a game with just four carries at Tampa Bay,
Starting point is 00:43:24 but he also had six catches. The other two games, he had 15 carries at the Saints and 22 carries against the Panthers. And this is not the strength of the Patriots' defense. They give up 4.6 yards per carry to running backs. I was going to say, of those four defenses, this is probably the best matchup.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I would say for sure. One thing about the Patriots, though, I talked a lot about they give up a lot of receiving yards to running backs. The last four games, not at all. They really improved there. But, you know. They did give up a pretty significant
Starting point is 00:43:55 receiving touchdown, though, to Naheem Hines. I mean, that play that he made on that catch. Yeah. One of the best catches, yes, absolutely. Well, it was a pinpoint throw. It was. what was the ADOT on that 0.1 alright
Starting point is 00:44:10 Diggs no problem start him we're good well there's a problem yeah I know I mean so would you start Antonio Brown over Diggs this week yes I would okay give me let's get a scenario that you could sit Stefan Diggs you have Antonio Brown.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Russell Gage, I like him better. Cordaro Patterson. Yep. I mean, it's not hard. You could have drafted Cooper Cupp in the fifth round. So you could have Cooper Cupp and Stefan Diggs, and then you could have Antonio Brown and Russell Gage. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:44:40 We just sat Stefan Diggs. He's top 15? Yep. He's top 15? Yeah, he's top 15. Okay. We talked about Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox. Dawson Knox or Mike Kosicki? Knox. I have gone back and forth and back and forth.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I'm going to say today that I will start Kosicki. This is a very tough matchup. This team allows the fewest fantasy points to tight ends. They haven't faced a ton of good ones, but they've consistently, year after year, been good here. From my recollection,
Starting point is 00:45:16 Dawson Knox was two catches that he normally makes away from a pretty good day against the Patriots. And it wasn't something the Patriots did. The one in the end zone, they kind of knocked away, but he had some other opportunities for plays. I'm starting him.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I don't even look at that game. You know, it was such a wacky game with the weather. All right, we'll start Dawson Knox. Dawson Knox or Hunter Henry, and that is if Bourne and Aguilar are out. Henry. Still Knox for me. Jacoby Myers or Gabriel Davis, if Bourne and Aguilar are out. Henry. Still Knox for me. Jacoby Myers or Gabriel Davis
Starting point is 00:45:46 if Bourne and Aguilera are out? Ooh, that's a tough one. PPR. I will probably still start Davis, though. I will still start Davis, but they are both top 24 in that situation.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Interesting. Okay. Boy, he... Myers will have a very robust six for 45. I'll start Myers over Devontae Parker. When I looked at the receiving totals for the Patriots, Kendrick Bourne is their leading receiver. And Kendrick Bourne is their leading receiver in terms of yards.
Starting point is 00:46:18 He has 48 fewer targets than Jacoby Myers. Jacoby Myers has so many targets. He's 21st in targets among all pass catchers, and he's 41st in yards. It is unbelievable. And he never scores. There was like a, must have been like a 15-yard throw
Starting point is 00:46:34 against the Colts, where Myers was just coming out of his route. I think Mac Jones threw it too soon. Or Myers wasn't even intended, expecting the ball. And it just kind of like summed up, in my opinion, his season. Because it was like he was actually a little bit down the field. And like he turned around and he had to like stretch out for the ball.
Starting point is 00:46:52 It was like, oh. Yeah, it's weird. A ton of targets doesn't do much with it. But would be a great opportunity if the other two wide receivers are out. What's the all non-touchdown teams? You got Miles Sanders at running back. Myers at receiver, Cole Komet at tight end.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Trevor Lawrence at quarterback. Well, I think we're talking about guys who are good but don't score touchdowns. Good but don't score. Daniel Jones, no. Who doesn't score? I mean, probably Lamar. He has the lowest touchdown rate
Starting point is 00:47:22 rushing and passing this year. Yeah. So Lamar's the quarterback. Who's the other running back with Sanders? he has his lowest touchdown rate rushing and passing this year. Lamar's the quarterback. Who's the other running back with Sanders? Is it Clyde? Chase Edmonds. Chase Edmonds was a good one. Yep. Lamar, Edmonds, and Sanders.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Myers. Does DJ Moore still count as a wide receiver? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, good one. DJ Moore. You're not winning with this lineup. No.
Starting point is 00:47:50 You have a chance. All right, so back to this game here. I think we pretty much covered it. Let me give you some more Hunter Henrys. Hunter Henry or Jared Cook with Donald Parham likely out? Henry. Henry. Hunter Henry or Kyle Pitts?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Pitts. I would take Henry and non-PPR if those guys are out. I've only said this 17 times, but I think Pitts might just have an enormous game. No, I'm sorry. All due respect to Cole Komet, Kyle Pitts is on
Starting point is 00:48:24 the no-touch. He has one and Komet, Kyle Pitts is on the no touch. He has one and Komet has zero. All right, so there's the tight end in flex. Okay, yeah, big of the flex. I think that's it. Oh, the DSTs. I think the DSTs are really fascinating in this game. Do you like them?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Not really, but. Heath does. Yeah, I do. You do, okay. um not really but heath does yeah i do you do okay yeah i i um i think the dsps will be good i've got the patriots 15th and the bill 16th so that's fine oh we're still on that game which one i thought we were on patriots bills yeah patriots bills oh what do you think we had falcons lions is tomorrow no patriots but all right so heath your rankings must be updated what did you say you have the these they're 15 and 16 they're fine oh okay they were not who had them third did you have? I think you had them top six, both of them.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Alright, nobody has them in the top ten. So I guess you can sit the DSDs. Which brings us to Pittsburgh at Kansas City. Maybe you can start both DSDs in this game. We'll see how it goes. How do you even preview this game? My goodness. I guess let's start with the Steelers since
Starting point is 00:49:43 right now they are whole for the most part. I mean, I think you know what to do with the Chiefs. Yeah, yes. We'll get back to Mahomes with and without his guys, maybe with one of them and, you know, whatever. He has one. You're starting him. He has none.
Starting point is 00:49:58 You can start hunting. All right, so this is a big stat to me. He's been bad with those guys. I mean, what are we expecting without them? Here's a big stat to me in this game for Roethlisberger, and specifically for Claypool, right? A quarterback has attempted 35 or more passes against the Chiefs in five straight games,
Starting point is 00:50:15 and 40 or more in four straight games. And they have had three big offensive games in that stretch, but also two games with 19 and 22 points. So, you know how... Look, Roethlisberger, I think, and Claypool, big offensive games in that stretch, but also two games with 19 and 22 points. So, you know how, look, Roethlisberger, I think, and Claypool, they really are game script dependent. They have to throw a lot, especially for Claypool, for those targets.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He averages 10 targets per game in losses and 5 targets per game in wins. So, yeah, I mean, do you think Roethlisberger airs it out 35 to 40 times in this game, Heath? I mean, again, I think it comes back to who's playing for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Because if there's no Tyreek Hill and there's no Travis Kelsey and there's no Chris Jones, then maybe not. Because maybe the Steelers aren't playing from behind. But my problem with Roethlisberger is we're talking about the scenario of if he throws it 40 times, then maybe he scores 21 or 22 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Like that feels like his ceiling. To be fair, he threw 30 times and scored 20 points against the Bears five weeks ago. He threw 31 times and scored 23 points against the Ravens just three weeks ago. And I set it up exactly the way you set it. So that's on me, but he has come through with decent games recently with, you know, 30 ish passes.
Starting point is 00:51:33 But again, what, what, what's, what's been Roethlisberger ceiling? Yeah. 23 to 25 points. I,
Starting point is 00:51:42 I don't love it. I think, I think the thing you got to hope for is you got to hope for, and you said this. I think the thing you've got to hope for is, you've got to hope for, and you said this, I think, on HQ yesterday, Heath, you've got to hope for no Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. Like, if you're counting on Roethlisberger, you're counting on their offense to be great for Kansas City, which clearly could be if everybody's there. And then you're hoping for the defensive guy,
Starting point is 00:52:03 specifically Jones, to be missing, to not wreak havoc on that offensive line, which is down a guy like you said, Adam, and making things uncomfortable for Roethlisberger. So there's so many things that play. And look, you know, I'll go back to Tuesday where I had Roethlisberger going into the week as somebody that I liked because of these
Starting point is 00:52:20 scenarios. You know, the fact that at the time, Jones wasn't cleared, and we thought that Kelsey and Hill would be there. Huntley, redoing the waiver wire, Huntley was the second choice. As I wrote in there, he would be the first choice if we knew Lamar Jackson was definitely out. That's a pivot, if you can, make
Starting point is 00:52:37 from Mahomes or certainly from Roethlisberger. There are scenarios at play where Roethlisberger can't have a good game. Look, even independent of all this, he can still have a good game. And look, even independent of all this, he can still have a good game. There's still an opportunity there that he comes out and throws a lot. You have to like him a little bit less
Starting point is 00:52:56 if Jones plays and Hill and Kelsey are not there. I currently have to decide between him and Tua in a Tua quarterback league. I don't really like Tua, but I've got Tua ahead of him right now. Well, I think with Tua, you can feel safe that the Dolphins are not going to be able to run the ball. With the Steelers, how do you feel about Najee Harris? We don't have to take a long time on this, but he's been a little dicey lately.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Stardom? Yeah. He's a top 15. Yeah, you're right, but he's a top 15 running back in all formats, so I'm starting him. Clyde or Najee? Najee. I will definitely go Najee in PPR. I'd go Clyde in on.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Okay. Start it, of course, Deontay Johnson. And just in case people didn't catch it earlier when we talked about it in the one question for each game, who's your favorite Chiefs wide receiver? If Hills and Kelsey are out. Hardman. Hardman. Hardman or Claypool in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Why don't you do your gallman sound? Who do you like better, Claypool or uh where's the i don't i really need i don't understand how at this point i don't know where the music is hard man it's not claypool sorry man i had to do it um claypool starter. Look, the guy, Claypool has been 93, 82, 82 or more yards in three of his last five games. And I'll tell you what, I think there's an opportunity for some end zone looks with Friar Muth out.
Starting point is 00:54:38 What do you think? There's opportunities. I just, you know, Claypool hasn't, what, scored a touchdown since like week two or three? Right. He's been tough you know, Claypool hasn't, what, scored a touchdown since, like, week two or three? Right. He's been tough to trust. He did have. Again, it's kind of, this game has turned for me.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I went into the week liking Claypool because I thought they'd be chasing points, and now I don't. So, like, it's hard to trust him. Yeah. And I don't, like, his participation has shrunk. I think he's not played more than 63% of the snaps. He was rotating series last week at times with James Washington.
Starting point is 00:55:13 It wouldn't be that surprising if James Washington just played more than him. Okay. Kansas City, 13th best against wide receivers. They have given up 72 or more yards to a wide receiver in six of their last eight games. That will hopefully be Deontay Johnson. If Friar Muth is cleared, do you start him? Again, who's there for the Chiefs? Well, even so, it's been a pretty good matchup.
Starting point is 00:55:39 He's gotten better lately. Yeah, Friar Muth plays. He's a top-sell guy. All right. He'll be behind Knox and Gasicki for me. Is it a good matchup now? I don't know. It's so hard to know how to look at the Chiefs' defense
Starting point is 00:55:54 because they had this stretch where they were at home basically every week, and they're home this week. They were facing pretty lousy offenses, and then they go to the Chargers and... Without Jones. Yeah, right, without three key players. Right. And Bolton's out now, right? Two? Fenton.
Starting point is 00:56:12 No, but this week, isn't Bolton out? I don't know. I did not see that Bolton was out. That would be... I thought he got placed on the cover list. Fenton, I thought, did. But... Fenton definitely did. And Charverius Ward is hurt or on the cover list. I don't remember. They still have some noteworthy absences,
Starting point is 00:56:27 and we don't know if LeGarrius Sneed is going to play. I'm looking for Nick Bolton news, and I've not seen any yet. You can just call me Mike. That was an office space Bolton. Okay, anyway, give me all the scenarios for Patrick Mahomes, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Mahomes gets his guys, must-star guy. Mahomes is down one of his guys, still a must-star guy. Mahomes is without his guys. He's a bleep. What do I do about Patrick Mahomes? You've seen office space, right? Yeah. Michael Bolton.
Starting point is 00:57:02 You can just call me Mike. All right, we like Clyde Edwards either. There you go. Chiefs add Nick Bolton to COVID list. call me Mike. We like Clyde Edwards-Ziller. From the Diego Chiefs ad, Nick Bolton to COVID list. What's that? Nick Bolton's on the COVID list. Okay. Clyde Edwards-Ziller or or
Starting point is 00:57:17 Miles Sanders? I like Miles Sanders better, but they're both top 12 guys. I'll go Clyde. I might change that by Friday if Sanders is a full participant. Sonny Michel or Clyde?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Clyde. Yeah, we talked about this yesterday. The Steelers might have the worst run defense in football right now. It is up there. Kansas City wide receivers. One more thing, though, Adam, for people looking at flex, I mean, Darrell Williams should have had two touchdowns against
Starting point is 00:57:50 the Chargers, and if they don't have their receivers, he's certainly shown he can be a factor in the passing game, and I would think that that's something Andy Reid uses is to be creative, so I don't mind Darrell Williams' flex. And what you just said about Darrell Williams, though, is why I'm not totally gung-ho on Clyde Edwards-Zehler.
Starting point is 00:58:05 You can see Edwards-Zehler having a really good, nice, efficient game, and then coming off the field when it matters most and not scoring. Fair. But you could also see him scoring from 40 yards away because the Steelers' run defense is so bad. Yeah, and I suppose if you're talking about Miles Sanders, I can't exactly
Starting point is 00:58:21 see Miles Sanders scoring. He scores this week. He literally never has. Do you see how pissed off Jason Kelsey was in him, by the way? Yes. For not following his block?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yes. Oh, my God. Kelsey was like a steamroll. Yes, it was very fun. He was faster than Sanders. He was. Sanders is going to give us a lot to think about going into next year.
Starting point is 00:58:46 He's going to be a fun one to debate during the offseason. Miami at New Orleans. Let's go a little faster here. We kind of covered the tough games. We got five left, though, so let's go. Miami at New Orleans. Tannehill or Taysom Hill? Tannehill.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Tua or Taysom? Taysom. Taysom or Mahomes? Mahomes. I don't love Taysom? Taysom. Taysom or Mahomes? Mahomes. I don't love Taysom Hill this week either. Sit the Dolphins running backs, right? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Waddle is a top 20 PPR wide receiver in half PPR. What about there? Still top 20. Yeah. This is going to be like an 8 for 60 game for him. Okay. Yeah, the Saints give up. This is so interesting. like an 8 for 60 game for him. Okay. Yeah, the Saints give up. This is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:27 The Saints give up a lot of big plays. That's their deal. That's their problem. That is not what the Dolphins do well offensively. So we'll see how it plays out. Who wins, by the way? Huge game. Saints.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Saints. Okay. Okay. How about... Gasicki? I think we've covered him. You know what to about... Gasicki? I think we've covered him. You know what to do with Gasicki. I think Parker's the tough one in this game.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, you said you don't like him. Or no, Jamie said that, but you agreed. I think he's a high-end number three. Okay. Parker. Yeah, so this team, I mean, they're 23rd against wide receivers. They're not special. And they do allow the big plays. Maybe that would be Parker. I, so this team, I mean, they're 23rd against wide receivers. They're not special.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And they do allow the big plays. Maybe that would be Parker. I don't know. All right, so let's go Parker or Tyler Boyd. Parker. Parker or Michael Carter, the running back. Parker. I'll take Carter.
Starting point is 01:00:26 This is what Lattimore has done against some guys this season. Devontae Adams, 5 for 56. Terry McLaurin, 4 for 46. DK Metcalf, 2 for 96 in the touchdown. We know how that came out. Yeah, lies. Devontae Smith, 4 for 61. Mike Evans, in the full game, 2 for 48 in the touchdown.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah, I don't know if he's going to shadow Parker, though. Well, who's he going to Yeah, I don't know if he's going to shadow Parker, though. Well, who's he going to shadow? I don't know if he's going to shadow anybody. I think he'll shadow Parker. Okay. Gasicki's top 10. You know, he's tight end. Gets a lot of targets.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Taysom Hill is 14th. Taysom Hill or Burrow? Burrow. Burrow. Taysom Hill or 14th. Taysom Hill or Burrow? Burrow. Burrow. Taysom Hill or Roethlisberger? Taysom. Depends. I don't know who's in and who's out.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Right now, I'll say Taysom. Taysom Hill or Russell Wilson against the Bears? Russell Wilson. I'll go Taysom. Especially if Lockett returns. Your stat of the day, stat of the game, seven straight games now for the Dolphins,
Starting point is 01:01:33 opposing running backs, none had more than 11 carries, six non-PPR or 14 PPR fantasy points. How do you view Alvin Kamara this week? Stored him. Flammed up. Mustard guy. It's one of those,
Starting point is 01:01:47 of course, upstarting him, but I wish he had a better matchup deals. Because Ingram is eating up a chunk of that work. I don't think it's... Not playing him in DFS, but that way. Do you guys feel that way? I mean, it kind of sucks with this situation. Well, the showdown, so you're probably going to play him.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh, yes. I will not put him in my infamous 4 p.m. and primetime lineup that everyone always sees.
Starting point is 01:02:14 That's the biggest cheating thing I've ever seen in my life. What? Every Sunday, we have to do a 4 p.m.
Starting point is 01:02:20 slate of lineups and Heath cheats all the time and does 4 p.m. and primetime. That was like the time Heath added a week to the regular season to make sure he got in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Saints wide receivers, going back to Callaway after that 112 yard game? No, but that was encouraging. I'm so, I really want to know what their quarterback situation looks like next year. Because if you have Thomas back, I think Callaway could actually be a decent player.
Starting point is 01:02:50 But I want to see a better quarterback. Don't you think it might depend on the next month? You've got the Dolphins, the Panthers, and the Falcons. If they go win the next three games and make the playoffs, it might be Taysom for a full year next year. It might be. Look, Taysom unlocked Callaway last week.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It'll be Wilson. Who gets drafted first next year, Miles Sanders or Michael Thomas? That's going to depend on the quarterback for New Orleans. If it's Taysom Hill. Sanders. Yeah. I think it's probably just awesome.
Starting point is 01:03:34 He just doesn't score. I mean, look at how much he's running. Does anybody on the team like him? Like they might draft a running back. Which DST do you like better, Saints or Dolphins? They're very close in your rankings. Saints. All right, you guys have the Saints slightly ahead.
Starting point is 01:03:51 They're both in play. You can start these DSTs. Denver is at... I actually made that move in one league. I dropped the Dolphins for the Saints. Oh, all right. Denver is at Las Vegas. So who's good in this game?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Who are you feeling in this one? Love Javante one yeah you're starting Jacobs and Javante and you're starting Renfro and I what's that you can start Melvin Gordon too you can start Melvin Gordon he's more of a
Starting point is 01:04:22 high end flex for me but yeah you can start Melvin Gordon and I don't hate the defenses either one yeah you're very banking you're very much banking on drew lock i mean i think it might help that the raiders secondary is not very good at staying close to the receivers because drew lock's throws are often not close to the receivers well the raiders secondary be fair, has actually been a surprising bright spot this year. But as I mentioned earlier, ravaged by injuries and COVID right now. They are like the Browns last week.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I mean, not going to be quite like the Bears last week where they started all backups, but it's not the same secondary. No, but Nate Hobbs has been a nice find for them. I think he's on the COVID list. I'm pretty sure he's on the COVID list. Is he really? Yeah, he's one of them.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Mullen's on IR. Abram's on IR. And let me just double check because Hobbs has been a very good addition for them. Absolutely. Yep, he's on the COVID list. He's on the COVID list. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And, you know, does that mean anything for Jerry, Judy, and Sutton? Can you trust anyone in that passing game? Trust? No way. Flyer? Maybe. I guess it... Do we go... Is Sutton the best one because of his history with Drew Locke?
Starting point is 01:05:39 I mean... Patrick's the best. The one guy in the passing game I actually like is Fant. We've seen tight ends have success against this team. Like you mentioned, Noah Abrams. He had a huge game against them earlier this year.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah. But when I say I like Noah Fant, it's Noah maybe. Okay. It's not Noah. Thank you this week. It's Noah, please. No, it's a great point.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I mean, this, the Raiders are one of the worst. I think they're second worst against tight ends. And we need tight ends this week. So would you start Hunter Henry over Noah Fant? If the guys are out in non-PPR, I would. But in PPR, I would start Fant.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I'd go with Fant as well. Yeah. For the fantasy managers who have been holding on to Javante Williams. And they've gotten some good production. But this is definitely a week to start him, right? Holding on? Who hasn't been starting Javante Williams? And they've gotten some good production, but this is definitely a week to start him, right? Holding on? Who hasn't been starting Javante Williams? Lately, well, you did it.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I don't think he's been a, he's never a slam dunk, in my opinion, when Gordon plays, except for the Lions game. It's very difficult, based on what he's done the last month to be sitting Javante Williams. Yeah, he's been great.
Starting point is 01:06:41 And he's catching passes, too. Okay, so who do you like better, Jacobs or Javante. Yeah, he's been great. And he's catching passes too. Okay, so who do you like better, Jacobs or Javante? Jacobs for me. Jacobs slightly, but I don't feel comfortable with that. I'm sorry I mentioned that. Jacobs is not good.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I mean, not playing good. He's a very good player. But he should be better for the touches that he's getting. Does this matter to you? The Broncos have allowed one touchdown to a running back
Starting point is 01:07:08 in their last seven games. And it was a receiving touchdown to Austin Eckler. That is seven straight games without a running back scoring a rushing touchdown. Does that matter to you? They're tough.
Starting point is 01:07:17 This is a really good defense. When they get Aaron Rodgers next year, they're going to be such a good Super Bowl team. So does it matter to you, Heath? No, I'm still starting him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:30 By the way... Think about what you said about Alvin Kamara. You're still starting him, but you wish it was a better matchup. Sure. But would you start, say, Sonny Michel or Josh Jacobs? Jacobs.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Jacobs and PPR, for sure. Non-PPR, I suppose. And Renfro or Waddle? Renfro. Even though they're the same player. Renfro, okay. So actually, yeah, the Broncos have been terrific against wide receivers, but not slot receivers.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Outside receivers, no luck. I mean, look at Jason Higgins last week, but look at Boyd. So, Orenfro bounces around, but he'll definitely play in the slot. Any interest in Foster Moreau this week? A little. Zero. Matchup, Jamie? Yeah, they're so good.
Starting point is 01:08:16 They are. They held Waller to 5 for 59. They held Andrews, I think, to like 5 for 57. I mean, you know, it's not like they haven't faced good tight ends. Kelsey, 3 for 27. Right. like they haven't faced good tight ends. Kelsey, three for 27. Right. Second fewest points allowed to tight ends.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And the DSTs are in play. All right, let's go to the... Foster, more no. Chargers and the Texans. I feel like I forgot to preview a game. This is the easiest one of all. Start all, sit all.
Starting point is 01:08:42 No, it's not start all because then you're saying start Jared Cook and Mike Williams. Yeah. I'm starting Mike Williams, probably. Jared Cook's a borderline start. There's supposed to be eight games on this slate, not seven. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Because that would leave us eight for tomorrow, and we don't want that. So I have to figure out what I missed. Chargers, Texans, all right, yeah, this is an an easy game but if you want to talk about where you would have justin jackson and josh kelly if eckler were out and i will figure out which game i forgot jackson is a top 15 running back if eckler's out i'd be a little lower than, but he's a start. Okay. How about Rex Burkhead?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Any interest there? He gets 15 touches for a straight game. No. Okay. I don't want to sell the game short, but... We don't know. It's a short game. Talk to me about Brandon Cooks, if he plays. This is actually...
Starting point is 01:09:44 The Chargers have been very bad against receivers lately. If he plays. This is actually the Chargers have been very bad against receivers lately. If he plays, he's a must-start guy. If he doesn't play, you're not starting anytime. Is he a must-start guy? Because he's going up now against a team that's going to have both cornerbacks healthy. I don't care. You're starting him. Alright. Jets and Jaguars. I see where you're going,
Starting point is 01:10:00 but he's just been so good. You've got to take your chances with him. With Davis Mills specifically. Jets and Jaguars. Who's a start in this game other than James Robinson, he's just been so good. You got to take your chances with him. With Davis Mills specifically, yeah. Jets at Jaguars. Who's a start in this game other than James Robinson, who's top five? Sit all but James Robinson. I mean, I think if you're stuck,
Starting point is 01:10:15 like if you're the Tyree Kill manager or the Brandon Cooks manager, Laquan Treadwell is not a bad pivot in a deeper league. He scored 10 or more PPR points in three straight games. He's another guy just doesn't score touchdowns, but he's the Jaguars' best receiver. So, not horrible. For the Jets, I think, like we said earlier,
Starting point is 01:10:32 Michael Carter's a flex. He'd be my favorite Jets player, but there's not a lot to like about this game. If Crowder's okay and gets back to practice, Crowder would be my favorite wide receiver in the game. If Crowder's out, Braxton Berrios to the moon.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Braxton Berrios. You know, LaVisca's on the injury report and he's getting a lot of targets. I know he's not doing anything with it, but Treadwell, why wouldn't Treadwell be ahead of Crowder? I would play Treadwell over Crowder, yes.
Starting point is 01:11:04 I would not. At some over Crowder, yes. I would not. At some point, I'm going to get Heath to say something nice about Laquan Shredwell. He's been better than Crowder the last month. Four straight games with 53-68 yards and 4-6 catches. He doesn't have Crowder's upside if Crowder were ever
Starting point is 01:11:20 to get the targets he probably should get, but I think Shredwell's better right now. Okay. Which DST if you were going to gamble on one? The Jets. Really? I am not going to gamble on one. I mean, the Jaguars at least have had some times
Starting point is 01:11:38 where they've been a good defense. Yeah, that's fair. I guess they're both kind of the same. No Robert Sala, perhaps, in this game. Yeah, that's kind of guess they're both kind of the same no Robert Sala perhaps in this game yeah that's kind of what I was hoping is Sala does
Starting point is 01:11:50 something to confuse Trevor Lawrence alright I think we're done there and I don't have any both these quarterbacks are terrible right now I don't have any other
Starting point is 01:11:57 games to preview so tomorrow's gonna be a very long show with eight games and that's fine today is one of the shortest ones we've had in a long time with eight games. That's fine. Today is one of the shortest ones we've had in a long time.
Starting point is 01:12:09 That's fine. I'm fine with that. Let's do Lions-Falcons now. No. Why? I don't want to do it now. I'll do it tomorrow. I haven't done my notes on that game yet.
Starting point is 01:12:18 What notes do you need? I need a lot of notes. Pick another game. Let's do the Giants game. I don't need any notes on that game. Let's go. Do the Giants game. Get out of the way. That's okay. We can do that tomorrow. I don't want to be here for two hours tomorrow. Let's do the Giants game.
Starting point is 01:12:32 That's selling it short. There's a strategic way in which I place these games. What are we selling short? The Giants-Eagles game. You start Barkley. Do you start Barkley? Because I will make a strong case to sit Barkley on tomorrow's show. We'll talk to you later, everybody. Do you start Barkley? Because I will make a strong case to sit Barkley. Okay. On tomorrow's show.
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