Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC); Pats-Falcons RB Update (11/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 18, 2021

Need some help with RB decisions for tonight's game? We'll get to that at the top of the show and then tell you who we like (7:10) and who we are avoiding this week (10:00). It should be a big week for the Dolphins, but beware of Dawson Knox and Antonio Gibson ... News and notes (17:00) and rankings disputes (24:00)! We debate Joe Burrow, Jordan Howard and Zach Ertz ... Start or Sit for Colts-Bills (29:50), Bengals-Raiders (37:50), Dolphins-Jets (47:30), 49ers-Jaguars (55:40), Steelers-Chargers (1:00:30), Lions-Browns (1:07:40) and Texans-Titans (1:13:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. We are into week 11, and we've got big running back news to kick off the show as we will look at the running backs in the Thursday night matchup. Adam Azer, Heath Cummings, and Jamie Eisenberg breaking down the AFC home games for Fantasy Week 11. A week that I thought maybe was crappy at running back, but Jamie said, what are you talking about?

Sorry, at quarterback. Jamie said, what are you talking about? It's great at quarterback. Did you mean that? It looks a little crappy at quarterback to me. I mean, you have the opportunity to start Tua, who I think is going to be great against the Jets. Cam, who's going to be good against the Washington football team.

Justin Fields, who's going to be good against the Jets. Cam, who's going to be good against the Washington football team. Justin Fields, who's going to be good against the Ravens. Jimmy Garoppolo could be good against the Jaguars. There are some very good streaming options for you available. However, the non-streamers, are you feeling a little shaky about, say, Justin Herbert? No, not at all. Aaron Rodgers? No, not at all.

Russell Wilson? A little bit. Okay, not at all. Aaron Rodgers. No, not at all. Russell Wilson. A little bit. Okay. You got one. I think the Herbert one, I've almost felt like I don't know why I'm not shakier on Herbert, but I pretty much feel fine with him. They could be down in terms of the Steelers. TJ Watt, Joe Hayden, and Mika Fitzpatrick.

Right. Yeah, that helps. I do think, for me, it's Rodgers, Wilson, Hurts, and Burrow are all kind of a little iffy. Why are you concerned about Rodgers? Because I just kind of think that's where he lives, in that QB 12 ish range. And he, he wasn't good last week and now he's playing without Aaron Jones.

Yeah. That's his number two wide receiver. I mean, Minnesota's defense is so beat up and bad. And who did not play well against them last week? Herbert. Exactly. All right.

So, but for Rodgers, Heath, you know, Heath hates it. Heath thinks Aaron Rodgers is like a borderline Hall of Famer. I don't know. Never said that.

I love Rodgers, but he's practiced so little in the last couple of weeks and he's got this toe injury now. I guess that's the only thing that really concerns me. I'll be starting him. I mean, I would start Rodgers over. I guess that's the only thing that really concerns me. I'll be starting him.

I mean, I would start Rodgers over. I said those four quarterbacks. He's my favorite of the Wilson-Burrow-Hertz group. But there's some streamers ahead of him for me. Yeah, and it also looks like a Heath, maybe I think you might get an agreement here, loaded at running back this week? I said it earlier in the week it felt like when i was putting my rankings together that running back was deeper than

wide receiver which is just dumb um but that's the way that it felt so yeah there's there's a few there's a few starting running backs who are barely even in my top 24 which is which is something we might have 25 running backs to start this week. Okay, let's talk about Thursday night, and then we'll get into the start of the week and the players to avoid and all that. We got a question in the chat that I did not click. There it is. Should I take a shot at Nick Chubb,

who's still on the reserve COVID list, or start Damian Harris, who will play tonight for the Patriots? Jamie, answer this question, and then pivot to just your analysis of the Patriots running backs. I think if these are the only options that I have and we get to the night game and he's still not activated off the reserve COVID-19 list, then you have to play it safe. But as we saw with, you know, Rogers and Noah Fant and I'm trying to think of some other

guys recently that were activated. I think it was like Friday and Saturday. Rogers is obviously Saturday, but we knew that going in. But I think Fant was like Friday and Saturday. Rogers obviously Saturday, but we knew that going in, but I think Fant was like Thursday or Friday last week where he was activated. If he doesn't get cleared and this is the only option that you have, then you have to play safe and start Damien Harris. But I would like to hopefully have another option available to me. Maybe you could trade Damien Harris for Dearness Johnson if you want to, if you're not guaranteed to be starting Damien Harris week in week out.

In terms of the Patriots running backs, I think it's going to be a shared situation. I'm going to go opposite of what Dave and Heath have said the last couple of days. I think it's going to still be Ramondre Stevenson as the lead guy, but it's like a 55-45 split. It's going to be very close. They're both going to play. I think both have an opportunity to be really successful because they'll probably be playing with the lead.

The Falcons' run defense has been bad. So I think both of these guys are borderline starters uh but i'll still give a slight edge to romandre stevenson so when i update my rankings after our show here i'll probably have stevenson like 25 and harris like 26 or 24 25 something like that um yeah i i mean i really hadn't considered the possibility that chubb might not get cleared but i guess that's a possibility i actually i'll flip-flop a little bit from what i said yesterday because when i updated the projections this morning i came out with stevenson one spot ahead of chubb both of them right around that rb24 one spot ahead of harris one spot ahead of harris yes not ahead of chubb unless he doesn't play right oh my Oh, my gosh. I hope he plays. He's going to rush for 200 yards, Nick Chubb, if he plays.

But all right. So they're low-end starters. 22 and 23 for me. Kind of like in the 25 range for Jamie. Is the starting Falcons running back the best running back in this game? Well, if it's Patterson, right? If it's Patterson, yes was Patterson yes it would be Patterson Patriots guys rest of Falcons backfield but if there's no Patterson I would take both

Patriots guys over Mike Davis and uh Wayne Gallman there was there was the note yesterday about um that Arthur Smith said the usage of Wayne Gallman was more related to the score and situation why he played so much but if there's no Patterson, they're going to play both guys. So I don't care what happened last week. Yeah, and I think when you look at where Harris and Stevenson are, there are a lot of running backs that we just don't know about for Sunday that we're going to have to make tough decisions on. You have to start them both over either of the 49ers running backs

right now, probably. Unless you have both. Unless you have to start them both over either of the 49ers running backs right now, probably. Unless you have both. Unless you have both. I'm going to start both over, over Devante Freeman. I'm going to start both over any of the Seattle backs. So. Okay,

man. I just, I still see like you, do you really not see Mike Davis having at least five catches in this game? Cause that's just what the Patriots do. They give up the receiving totals and he's 25 yards though for mike davis the way he's played this year okay all right but then if he gets another 25 rushing yards then you've got a 10 point floor at ppr i've got him at rb 28 that's about about where i have him okay all right then then. That's your Thursday night update.

Jamie, who do we love this week? Tua Tungvaloa at the start of the week. I love the setup for him taking on the Jets. My only concern, obviously, is the finger. If he gets hurt and he has to leave the game. But we've seen him in this setup before, taking on Jacksonville and Atlanta, very similar type of matchups where he had success

against them 25 or more points in those two games. And the Jets the last month have basically given up, you know. No, stop. They've given up. Yes. There you go. 24 more fantasy points to the last five quarterbacks that they faced. So this is Tua's time. I mean, you know, past the trade deadline, you know, had his moment in a primetime game, you know,

coming off the bench for Jacoby Brissett and getting 12 fantasy points in the second half of that game against Baltimore. I know the defense obviously is the big reason why they wonetime game, coming off the bench for Jacoby Brissett and getting 12 fantasy points in the second half of that game against Baltimore. I know the defense, obviously, is the big reason why they won that game, but Tua led them on an important scoring drive. So I like the setup for him. I wish he had his full complement of weapons, but I think with Waddle and Gusecki and Gaskin, he has enough

and whatever he'll get from Isaiah Ford and Albert Wilson. So it's a very good setup for Tua to have a big game. How tempted were you to make Myles Gaskin the start of the week again? I actually wasn't tempted. It's just so hard to trust him. You know, that game where he was the start of the week, it was so frustrating because he had 1.7 yards per carry. Yeah, against Houston.

It's the Jets. They're bad. I'd start Gaskin, i i would not make him the start of the week twice he's not worthy of being started twice is any that's against is that against the rules or have you done that before no i've done that before there's usually been a little bit more of a gap as opposed to two weeks i use gaskin against texans so um no i've done it before okay well i mean really you could have done that every other week for like the past six weeks and you would have been right with Myles Gaskin.

He's basically been a top 25 running back every other week. And I think you... Him, Dady McKissick is very similar also every other week for him. I think there's somebody else too that's in every other week. How about Gaskin or a Thursday night guy? Gaskin. Yeah. Yeah, Gaskin was going to be the player i love oh really yeah

just relative to what he's done this season i think he could be a top 15 running back against the jets they still don't have malcolm brown so the workload's going to be there the jets defense is not any good at all they hemorrhage passing yards to running backs. And so I fire up your Dolphins. Tua, Waddle, Gaskin, even zero-point Gusecki. Gusecki. Gusecki. Gusecki. He's done that twice this year, right?

Week one, yes. But that was, I think, more of a playing time issue. Yeah, week one and week 10 against Baltimore. So Goose Eggie? Is that too much of a stretch? Goose Eggie. Goose Eggie, right. Yeah, week one and week 10 against Baltimore. So, goose eggy? Is that too much of a stretch? Goose eggy. Goose eggy, right.

Okay, let's go to the players to avoid. Heath, you ready? Players to avoid? Of course I'm not. Why? What? No, and can I just, I don't want to take one of the rankings disputes, but I'm pretty scared about dawson knox if you the fact that he only got one

target last week and he's like if you look at his first seven games this year compared to robert tunyon's first seven games last year it's almost a carbon copy because i think tunyon actually had one more catch in like five more yards maybe. Same number of touchdowns, similar number of targets. I just don't know that he's anything more than a touchdown dependent streamer and there's a goose egg potential every week. Let's cool it with the goose egg thing. We can't

use it for every tight end, okay? He's facing the Colts. Jamie has him 10th and Heath has him 19th. Yes, this is a rankings dispute. So Jamie, uh, more optimistic on Knox. Yeah, I'm going to drop him a couple of spots, but I still think you're looking at a guy that has a chance to score, uh, with a quarterback who's still playing very well. And, uh, I don't buy this Colts defense. You know, we've seen them, uh, it's what four touchdowns allowed to tight ends since week five. They do give up production to that position, especially when there's a guy

that's featured. I think he's going to get back on track. That was the shake the rust off game after being out three weeks with the hand injury. I'll buy back into Dawson Knox as a low end starter, but not 10. Okay, so he'll be closer to 12. I think Dave has him 5.

So we'll fight about that on FFT at noon on CBS. Dave has him what? Dave does not have Dawson Knox. Last I looked, Dave had him 5th. That must be a different D Knox. He does have him 5th, you're right. He has him ahead of Kyle Pitts and Micah Sickie. Yeah,

I would like to fight with Dave about that too. Please phone me in for that one. Before we get to the guys that Jamie might be avoiding, let's talk about our little Start-Sit Challenge on CBSSports.com. Go to CBSSports.com slash Start-Sit to play. Each week, answer 10 Start-Sit questions to win a customized Trophy Smack Championship belt

with your name engraved. And the overall winner for the season wins $1,000 and a guest appearance on the podcast. One question this week, we got Brandon Cooks against Tennessee. We have Antonio Gibson against Carolina, or we have Marquise Brown. Who do you like,

Brandon Cooks, Antonio Gibson, or Marquise Brown in half PPR? Marquise Brown. Yeah, it's Brown. Okay. He is at Chicago. All right, then. So half PPR.

By the way, speaking of Antonio Gibson, he made me a trade offer of all of his injured players and Tyler Lockett for Jamar Chase, Antonio Gibson, and Hunter Enfro. To clarify, all of my injured players includes Aaron Jones. Yes, he offered me Aaron Jones, Chase Claypool, and Tyler Lockett for Antonio Gibson, Jamar Chase, and Hunter Renfro. I said no.

I countered with, if he needs a running back, I gave him Antonio Gibson for Aaron Jones. Seems fair to me. It's three weeks you don't have Aaron Jones. You hate Antonio Gibson for Aaron Jones. Seems fair to me. It's three weeks. You don't have Aaron Jones. You hate Antonio Gibson. Yeah, but I like a guy who's playing for the next three weeks. You need to win now, and you like Gibson this week.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm probably not going to do it, but I do think, and I understand why Jamie doesn't want to do it, but Jamie's in the playoffs, and I'd rather have Aaron Jones than Antonio Gibson in the playoffs, for sure. What league is this?

A little bit extra to get Jones. What league is this? This is our draft-a-thon league. If it was a league I'm in, I'm not in favor of you giving Jamie Aaron Jones for the playoffs. I like giving Aaron Jones for the playoffs. That's part of it.

Jamie, who are we avoiding this week? I would avoid Antonio Gibson taking on the Panthers. As we've seen, Gibson is very touchdown dependent at this point, and I don't think they're going to have the luxury of giving him 20-plus carries. The Panthers have only given up five touchdowns, period, to running backs on the season, so they're very good at stopping opposing rushing games. And I just don't want to buy into Gibson

after what he did against Tampa Bay. I think it was a very good performance. I was wrong about that, but I don't think I'm going to be wrong on this one. I think he's going to be a disappointing fantasy option. I don't even think you were wrong about Gibson. You were wrong about the way the game played out. We all were.

Just the fact that he was able to get 22 carries was a huge surprise, but it's not like he ran all over them or anything. So don't beat too hard on yourself, Jamie. I was trying for hours. It can be hard to avoid Gibson just because he is a starting running back, but would you start Myles Gaskin over Antonio Gibson? I would 100%. Certainly in PPR it's easy, but even in non-PPR, yes.

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you can answer it right now, and we'll get more in-depth later. Who's your favorite running back in this game now that Flacco's starting for the Jets? Is it Gaskin or Carter? Gaskin. Yeah, I think it's Gaskin. Okay. Jared Goff, day-to-day, with a strained oblique. Aaron Rodgers,

mispracticed with a toe injury. He says he'll play. Cam Newton still has not officially been named the starter, but it seems very likely. NFL Network saying that it sounds like Ben Roethlisberger will play this week. He's got Sunday night game at the Chargers. Defensive injuries are huge in that game. A lot to keep an eye on.

Injuries and COVID. Kyler Murray is making progress. Cross our fingers. Let's hope he gets out there. Cleveland is optimistic about Baker Mayfield playing this week. Nick Chubb, as we mentioned, still on the reserve COVID list facing Detroit. It doesn't really matter what the matchup is, but this could be just a great game for the starting running back for the Browns.

Meanwhile, Kareem Hunt is not going to play this week, but is getting close to a return. Great news to see Alvin Kamara limited in practice on Wednesday. Let's keep that going. Hope he gets out there. Same with Miles Sanders. The practice window has been opened. You guys are not ranking Sanders yet, are you?

No, no, because as we've seen, like with Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, for example, teams can still take their time with their guys coming off of IR. But it's a very encouraging sign. We thought initially from the first report that it would be three weeks, and this is the three-week timetable. So hopefully Miles Sanders comes back. I just don't understand the narrative that we're hearing from Philadelphia media and some other people surrounding the team that Jordan Howard and Boston Scott are better for the Philadelphia Eagles right now

than Miles Sanders because he likes to look for the big play, and those guys are just taking what's available to them. I don't know. If I'm Nick Sirianni, I want to see what this run game looks like with Miles Sanders back there. And he said that when Sanders is healthy, he's the starter. I don't know if he said anything about whether or not they're going to play two guys. Oh, I'm sure they will.

Yeah. Okay. All right. So Miles Sanders. Oh, Latavius they will. Yeah. Okay. All right, so, Miles Sanders. Oh, Latavius Murray. He practiced. Clyde Edwards either may not play this week.

If you've been relying on Darrell Williams, you might get another game with Darrell Williams against Dallas. Looks like, for the Giants, it looks like pretty much

everyone is healthy except for Sterling Shepard. That would include Barkley, Tony, Galladay, and left tackle Andrew Thomas.

Maybe not Devante Booker. Carson mispractice what what is the deal Heath what do we know about Chris Carson he has a chronic neck injury and he's trying to play football and that he's having a really hard time getting cleared to do that okay so Alexlex collins still could be something i yeah i i i'm really skeptical that we're going to see chris carson as more than a a part-time back this year but hopefully kyle shanahan still thinks that eli mitchell will play james robinson has a knee issue but it's seemingly minor he's expected to play. Looks like Dallas is getting Teron Smith back this week. Their left tackle that's huge, literally. DeAndre Hopkins mispracticed.

Still don't know about him. I assume you haven't ranked DeAndre Hopkins yet? No. I think with the Cardinals guys, you've got to be really concerned that they're going to play because they have a bye in Week 12. Murray and Hopkins, they don't want to give up losses, clearly, but they also want to make sure those guys are right for the stretch run,

for the playoffs, for them. So I would say you may not see these guys until Week 13, which stinks. Okay, Devontae Adams was limited. Alan Lazard mispracticed. I'm sure Adams will be out there, but he has, I think, a shoulder injury now, a shoulder issue. Cole Beasley mispracticed. He's got this rib issue, and he barely played last week.

Still had eight catches. Minnesota safety Harrison Smith is off the reserve COVID list. Minnesota cornerback Patrick Peterson could come back as early as this week. Lamar Jackson mispracticed with an illness, non-COVID. Dallas Goddard still in the concussion protocol. It looks like I'm probably going to have to play Hunter Henry over Dallas Goddard. Don't know if you can take that chance and wait for Goddard. Yeah, go ahead.

Why would you not consider Henry anyway? I'd rather start Goddard. I really like Dallas Goddard, but Henry's a decent fallback. He occasionally scores every game. I just want to go back to the Cole Beasley thing. He did not have eight catches last week. Oh, I'm sorry. That was the week before? Oh, that's right. Last not have eight catches last week. Oh, I'm sorry. That was the week before?

Oh, that's right. Yeah, he had two catches for 15 yards. My bad. I'm sorry. He only played nine offensive snaps. Yeah, he caught a pass on every snap at one. Sorry about that. Let's see.

Quentin Nelson and Darius Leonard mispracticed for the Colts. We'll keep an eye on that. Neither Washington tight end, Seals Jones and Thomas, practiced yesterday. Seem a little bit optimistic for Logan Thomas. You got a beat-up Chargers defense. So the Chargers defense is actually getting healthier in the secondary, but not on the defensive line,

although Joey Bosa still has a chance to play. Man, Allen Robinson, Marquise Brown, Chase Claypool. Chase Claypool was limited. That's good. Robinson and Marquise Brown mispracticed. I think we expect them as of now. Both starting Saints offensive tackles mispracticed.

And Donovan Peoples-Jones, who has like 75% roster, which surprised me, he mispracticed with a groin injury. He actually left practice. So he got hurt during practice.

That's even worse. Never good. Yeah. But it was good to see Chase Claypool limited. He might play this week. Yeah, the three positives I think you take from the injury report is Kamara coming back on a limited basis,

Latavius Murray coming back on a limited basis, and Chase Claypool coming back on a limited basis. You'd like to have all three of those guys healthy for the remainder of the season. And it sounded pretty likely, just to go back to the Chargers defense, because I do think that matters quite a bit, it sounded pretty likely that Bosa,

he was not a positive. He was just a close contact, and he's already tested negative once. And I believe he's not vaccinated, so his scenario changes. He's not vaccinated, right. That's why he's out so long as a close contact. But he could be back, and he doesn't have COVID, so he should play. And so they got Samuel back last week. They got hopefully Michael Davis coming back. Yeah. Michael Davis practice in full, another cornerback. He's coming back safety Nassir Adderley coming back. So the chargers were so good against wide receivers, but the last two

weeks, Devante Smith, huge game and just Justin Jefferson, huge game, but they're probably going to be pretty healthy. So don't start Claypool, I guess. Uh, rankings disputes, Joe Burrow at Las Vegas, eighth for Jamie, sixth for Dave,

13th for Heath, Jamie start Joe Burrow. Yeah. I mean, I, I'm not going to judge him based on the Cincinnati game. He was obviously very consistent and productive prior to that matchup. I guess the Cleveland game prior to that matchup in his last game before his bye.

And I think we've seen this Raiders defense last week. Certainly, I just feel like this team has fallen apart. It's unfortunate for what's happening in Las Vegas. Losing Gruden the way that it happened unfolded you know how that affected the locker room obviously the henry ruggs situation uh but three of the past four opposing quarterbacks against las vegas have scored at least 23 fantasy points uh i'm gonna buy back into what burrow was doing so i love the setup for joe burrow coming off his bye with everybody healthy offensively for them i think think Uzama scores. I think we're going to see Jamar Chase and Ortie Higgins

put up some big numbers, probably more so Chase. But I think this is a three-touchdown game for Joe Burrow with a 250-yard performance on top of it. He's 13th. This one really stumped me because I don't know. I've been trying to figure out why I don't know why I don't like Joe Burrow. I know why I have two over him, and he's kind of been in that QB 12 range,

but I don't honestly have a great case against Joe Burrow other than the interceptions have been a bit of a problem lately. The pass volume has been hit or miss in games that they win. But he's a borderline starting quarterback, and two is the only streamer I'd start over him. I was reading about Burrow on ESPN.com yesterday,

and he has, let's see if I can get the exact quote. I think I deleted it, unfortunately, because I'm an idiot. He has attempted, I want to say, the most, he has the most pass attempts in tight windows. Basically, I don't remember the exact stat, but to sum it up, he's a gambler. He takes a lot of risks, and he throws into tight coverage a lot, and that's the primary source of his interceptions. But he also is throwing a ton of touchdowns.

All right, so it looks like even Heath has him 13th. It's not like he doesn't like Joe Burrow. Okay, we'll do a different rankings dispute here. We already did Dawson Knox. How about Jordan Howard? Jamie's got Howard as a number three running back just outside the top 24. Heath is like, nope, not even top 36.

He's close to 40 for you. He was actually 44th in PPR. And I think you have Boston Scott ahead of him in PPR. Is that true? I think I have Boston Scott one spot ahead of him, yeah. Okay, so not interested in Jordan Howard. Obviously, if Miles Sanders plays, we're not going to be interested in Howard, I wouldn't think, but you are really not at all interested.

Well, I mean, it's obviously an awful matchup if your job is to run into run. Run straight ahead. Yeah, I think if your job is to run into... Run. Run straight ahead. Yeah, I think it's probably more of a Boston Scott type situation.

I think. I didn't look for sure at last week, but I know Howard's snap share went down last week. I think Boston Scott has played more snaps than Jordan Howard every week. Even the weeks when Howard has had the success scoring the touchdowns on the ground, it's not been because he's playing a ton of snaps.

He was at 38% last week. So I just, I don't like the situation at all for a guy who's probably only going to play on rushing downs. Yeah. Jamie's facing new Orleans, obviously the best run defensive football. And you're not exactly yelling to start Jordan Howard, but you at least have some hope.

No, I don't. I agree with Heath. Okay. All right, then. Great dispute. Zach Ertz, he is 18th for Jamie, 17th in PPR. He's 11th for Heath. So, Jamie, sit Zach Ertz at Seattle. Yeah, and clearly this will change if the quarterback situation changes for the Cardinals. But, you know, I think we've seen enough

of what this team looks like the last two games. But even if you go back three games for Zacherts, he had the game that I expected, which was against Houston, a good matchup, and it would show off the shiny new toy. And the targets have been there for him to a certain extent. But this is still such a crowded receiving core, even without DeAndre Hopkins on the field.

And his production has just really been miserable for the last couple of weeks. He has failed the top 46 yards in each of the last three games, and he hasn't scored a touchdown. And so I'm just not buying Zachary. It's playing well in this matchup against Seattle, which has really turned the corner against tight ends. They've done a nice job since I think it's like week four or five of,

of containing tight ends. And I haven't faced a lot of great tight ends, but I don't know if Zach Erso qualifies as a great tight end if Colt McCoy is throwing in passes yeah I think this is just like he is getting the targets and he's gonna get just eight seven or eight fantasy points without a touchdown and if he scores a touchdown he's probably a top six guy. And so that guy ends up closer to a starter for me than Dawson Knox. Because 46 yards for Dawson Knox

is a pretty good game. I guess, you know, Ertz is averaging seven PPR points over his last three games. So that, to me, is not very exciting. That's what I'm saying exactly. He's averaging seven PPR points with zero touchdowns over his last three exactly. He's averaging seven PPR points with zero touchdowns over his last three games.

That's a high-end number two if he doesn't score a touchdown. If he scores a touchdown, it's a top-six guy. By the way, how funny, Jack Stahl is in your rankings, Heath. Well, he's the only Eagles tight end right now. Funny. 15th. All right, but you have Ertz over... You have one spot ahead of Conklin.

You have him two spots ahead of Hunter Henry in full PPR. I assume Jamie would not do that. No. Well, I understand that completely. Hunter Henry scored like 17 touchdowns on 18 targets. It's actually 18 touchdowns on 17 targets for Henry somehow. Right. 19 snaps.

All right. So, yeah, not the best round of rankings disputes. We could do Kirk Cousins again, but that'll be tomorrow's show. Indianapolis at Buffalo. Let's get to the games. We got seven of them to look at today. So Colts at Bills and, you know,

fun matchup here, but here's your stat of the game. Michael Pittman. So in tough matchups and I'm using Rams, Ravens, and 49ers. He had 123 yards against the Rams, 89 yards and a touchdown at Baltimore,

105 yards and a touchdown at San Francisco. In a deceiving game, because he also drew a couple, at least two, pass interference calls, I believe. So, he could have had an even bigger game. He has the most yards of any wide receiver against the Rams, the second most against the Ravens behind Jamar Chase, the

fourth most against the 49ers behind Adams Cup and Quez Watkins. But Pittman, my point is, has done well in tough matchups. Jamie, this is probably the toughest. So, start or sit Michael Pittman? It's very difficult to sit a player like this because he's capable, as we've seen,

like with DK Metcalf against Marshall and Lattimore, of one play or, you know, a couple of plays that still make him successful. But like you said, the Bills allow the fewest fantasy points to opposing tight ends. Tredavious White has been, you know, a very good shadow corner for, you know, perimeter receivers, and that's basically where Pittman has been.

And in the two games that T.Y. Hilton has played, the majority of those games, Pittman's numbers have been poor. They haven't been good. So I just don't love the setup for Pittman, but he's obviously still a starter in three receiver leagues and most people play in three receiver leagues, rightfully so. But in two receiver leagues, you can get away from Michael Pittman. What was that rightfully so thing?

I don't know. I mean, most people play in three receiver leagues. Well, it's just funny because we spent the first five minutes of yesterday's show talking about why I'm kind of over that format. Well, Adam doesn't like three receivers, so it's not. Adam thinks it's wrongfully so. No, because this is exactly why

I don't like the format because you shouldn't have a format where I shouldn't say you shouldn't. I don't love the fact that Michael Pittman is just a start because this is a really tough matchup. This should be a tougher call. I just think that it makes it too easy. That's all. I do think

it makes it harder. Why? Because if it were a two-receiver league or I propose two receivers and two flexes instead of three receivers and one flex, then... You'd still be starting Michael Pittman. Okay. I mean, look, we all know what they can do to wide receivers deontay johnson 36 yards and a touchdown mclaren 62 yards cooks 47 yards tyree kills 63 yards julio jones 59 yards jaylen wattle 29 yards is it that easy of a call heath to just start no it's not that easy of a call and i think

it's important like you talked about their tough matchups those matchups are nothing like the bills at all those teams are giving up 20 to 25 fantasy points per game to wide receivers the bills are giving up 13 like they're not in the same stratosphere as this matchup and if nelson is out good Wentz. Yeah, I don't feel good about Pittman. I think I have him 25th or 26th. But, like I said, it feels like running back is deeper than wide receiver this week. There are wide receivers I don't feel good about that I'm starting ahead of Michael Pittman.

On the other side of the spectrum, the Bills wide receivers, I don't know that we can trust Cole Beasley with the injury, even with the eight, no, actually two catches last week. I don't know if we can trust Cole Beasley, but Emmanuel Sanders, now that the Colts have been really bad against wide receivers, would you start Emmanuel Sanders over Michael Pittman? No, just because Sanders has been so bad.

So there's an opportunity here. And I think there's also the Darius Leonard injury factors into Dawson Knox because the middle of the field will be different for the Colts if there's no Leonard out there. So maybe they run the ball more, maybe they, you know, lean on Dawson Knox or Sanders in that role of Beasley's not a hundred percent. Gabriel Davis, you know, we'll see some shot plays probably to him as well after what he showed you last week, but you could also see just a lot of Stefan Diggs. I mean josh allen was perfectly comfortable going that route yes last week and uh much more people are starting to find days than anybody else in buffalo yeah and i like there are names i would start hunter info and full ppr over michael pitman this week and there are some some big names who have

been bad lately terry mclaurin amari cooper dj mo Moore, Mike Williams. I would start those guys over Michael Pittman. McLaurin's got a horrible matchup, too. I think people should really consider right now before the trade deadline with McLaurin. Stephon Gilmore is the number two. He's only played two or three games, but he's the number two rated cornerback by PFF. So he's got Carolina and Philadelphia twice

down the stretch. Who, McLaurin? No, he wasn't on the injury report. Okay, he left the game last week, but he's okay, so never mind. So he's got Darius Slay. He was limited in practice yesterday. Darius Slay twice and Stephon Gilmore.

Seattle has been really good lately defensively. Las Vegas gives up the fifth fewest points to wide receivers. I've never really bought that. I don't know. Totally off subject, but important. I don't know how you guys feel about McLaurin since he's had three good games this year, and he's got

I think a pretty bad schedule going forward. My whole feeling on McLaurin coming into the season was the quarterback, and the quarterback is not there. So yes, if you can sell Terry McCorn, uh, I would absolutely sell Terry McCorn if you're still getting name value for

him. Cause the production, like you said, has not been what we hoped. Okay. Uh, so just going back to this bills Colts game, sit Wentz,

you're going to start Jonathan Taylor, even though the bills give up the fewest points to running backs, 3.67 yards per carry. And you're going to sit Hilton. You're going to sit the tight ends with the Colts tight ends. Josh Allen is top two. I'll just be quick on this. Stefan digs is the only must start in the passing game.

We already debated Dawson Knox. Jamie's got them top 12 borderline Heath, not even close. Yeah. So let's talk about Singletary and moss and i guess brita heath are you starting a bills running back i hope not uh i would really really not like to not do that um but if you're desperate i i would still start singletary and Moss over Brita. I think I have Moss one spot higher in non and Singletary one spot higher in PPR. And two weeks ago, I thought Moss was the pass-catching running back.

So neither of these guys are in my top 30. I'd rather start Alex Collins if Carson is out. I would obviously start Damian Harris, Ramondre Stevenson, and Mike Davis if there's no Cordero Patterson over these two. I'd really like to not start them. Okay.

Fairly easy game, except I'd say for Michael Pittman. Just to wrap it up on Emmanuel Sanders, did he even make your top 36? He's in the range. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he has about 30th jamie's closer to 40 there you go bill's dst is not number one but still top six you know i will say though if leonard is out moss becomes more interesting because this feels like a game they should win

he's been their fourth quarter guy chance to score score. So Moss is my favorite Bills running back by far. I do love the Bills, and I think they're the AFC favorite right now. They have had a really easy schedule. They have faced a lot of terrible offenses. So I'm curious to see if the Colts can do anything. They have faced the Chiefs, and they held them to 20 points.

That was when the Chiefs were good. But Pittsburgh, the Dolphins twice the Jets, Washington Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville cake schedule so far Tennessee a little more respect Tennessee won Tennessee beat them

so did Jacksonville Tennessee won 34-31 Cincinnati at Las Vegas this is an interesting game So did Jacksonville. So did Jacksonville. Tennessee won 34-31. Cincinnati at Las Vegas. This is an interesting game. And stat of the game number one. I know Dave likes to do Zamba this week. A tight end has 70 yards or a touchdown in seven straight games against Las Vegas.

Now, those are some good tight ends, though you got not all of them. Kosicki, Fant, Goddard, Evan Ingram, Kelsey, Noah Gray, Donald Parham, Jared Cook, Jesper Horstead. Anyway, anybody like Yuzama this week? Yes. Non-PPR, he's a starter.

Knox or Yuzama? Knox. Knox or Uzama? Knox. Knox. Okay. That's coming from someone who likes Knox and someone who doesn't like Knox this week. Stat of the game number two. A running back has scored 17 or more PPR fantasy points

against the Bengals in seven of nine games. So they give up fantasy points. Josh Jacobs, Jamie, how much do you trust them? Trust is a tough word with Josh Jacobs in the Raiders, but I think, you know,

you've seen enough of sample size that he'll work in the passing game. He's certainly their goal line option. So he's a number two running back. You know, it's, it's very hard to get away from what his workload will be. He was on the injury report on Wednesday. So just keep that in mind.

But I think actually both guys are in play. This is one of the worst teams in terms of pass-catching running backs. A lot of that was the Najee Harris game, I think, when he had, what, 13 catches. But still, they're in the top five in interceptions allowed to running backs. So it should help Jacobs. It should help Kenyon Drake who's got, I think it's, what, 11 catches in the last three weeks. So I think it's what, 11 catches in the last three weeks. So I think Drake's a good flex, but Jacobs is still a top 20 running back. Okay, Jacobs ahead of the Bills guys?

Yes, and the Patriots guys. And the Patriots guys, okay. Josh Jacobs or Michael Pittman? Jacobs. Yeah, I might go Pittman. No, I'll go Jacobs in both. Okay, let's go. So Mixon is a must-start.

Chase is a must-start. Burrow, we've already debated. Jamie's got him eighth. Heath has him 13th. And the Raiders are 22nd against quarterbacks. And the good quarterbacks they face have usually done pretty well. Tee Higgins is always tough. So Higgins or Pittman? Higgins for me. Um, it's three straight games of 13 PPR points and, you know, two of those with at least eight targets. So I hope that they come off their bye. We can continue to give him that type

of volume. Um, the slot corner for the Raiders,iders, Nate, I forget his last name, has done a really nice job. So Tyler Boyd is probably not going to do much. Go figure. So I think it's the perimeter guys that have the success here with Uzama as the red zone option. So I'm very fine with Higgins. Better in PPR than non-PPR because he hasn't scored a touchdown since week two.

But it's a good opportunity for T. Higgins and PPR to be a borderline starter. In two receiver leagues. I feel like Higgins has been damn close to some touchdowns. He's flirting with... He's an almost touchdown kind of guy lately. Heath, you like him? I prefer Pittman,

but they're in the same number three wide receiver range. I think it makes sense if you like Burrow more that you would like Higgins more. Sure. The Raiders have been good at one thing. They do not give up big pass plays. Only three pass plays of 40 plus yards. That is fourth fewest in the NFL.

And Uzama we talked about. And let's go to Derek Carr. He's been up and down. He usually throws two touches. You can pretty much count on him for two touchdowns. He's done that in seven of nine games. Never more though. That's why he's never that appealing. It's easy to be more though. That's why he's never that appealing. It's easy to be a Raven.

Why they don't throw more than two touchdowns. Never more. Never more. Oh, come on. Okay. That's a literature thing. Yes. Okay.

That's a literature thing. Okay. I think for now on, I'll just make literature references. Cause yeah, I've had the same connection to those. let's do that uh wait the raven is not shakespeare that was true is that you said no it's edgar allen poe it's like around poe yeah yeah there you go yeah uh adrian died there you go okay yeah um Carr. Anyway, start or sit, Derek. Derek Carr. Heath, start or sit.

I'm fine with him as a low-end starter. I think he's probably going to be in that 20 to 25 fantasy point range. And I think that he's going to be in a situation where he needs to throw the ball a little bit in the second half. So I don't dislike him at all. He has had, I guess, I don't even know if he's had more bad games lately than

he did early in the season. There's been a couple of bad games sprinkled in, but he's usually in that 22-point range. Do you like Carr better than Burrow? I think I have Carr just a couple spots ahead of Burrow. I think the thing that was encouraging from Derek Carr's game against the Chiefs,

so they used Deshaun Jackson. He's obviously not the same player at this point in his career as Henry Ruggs was, but he opened up things. You saw Brian Edwards. If you watch the game, just the routes that he benefited from, I think Darren Waller will start to benefit from it. This game feels like a shootout. I don't know what the projected total is.

I haven't looked, but it feels like it could be high scoring with how these two defenses have played lately. My guess is you said, you know, Derek Carr will throw two touchdowns. My guess is going to be just based on every Raiders game that I've watched, which is most of them, that there'll be a fourth quarter opportunity for them to try and drive to

win the game. And Carr will either get the score, which could be his third one to get them to overtime, or he will not get the touchdown and they will lose the game. There'll be a mistake at the end of the game. Total is 49 and a half. Thank you. That feels about right.

Okay. And Derek Carr or Russell Wilson. Carr. Right now I have Wilson, I think one or two spots ahead, but I can certainly be talked into, into Derek Carr. Adam fell asleep in English class, says Little Wayne.

Apparently so did I. I am moving Burrow ahead of Wilson, too. I've got Burrow up to 12. He might be 11 before the show's over. If you have kids, you should turn the show off right now. I'm just going to tell you that I hate

books and poems and literature, all that stuff. Absolutely hate. I'm just going to wait for the movie to come out. One of the only books I remember actually liking in school was Beowulf because it was really short and violent. And yeah, I just couldn't do it. I pretty much never read the books I was supposed to read. I just hated doing it. And I still do.

I think you were wrong to tell, I think people should rewind, bring their kids back into the room and listen to that section and say, kids, if you don't read, look what happens. Yeah, no, I wish I had, believe me, it's one of my biggest regrets. I wish I had been more interested in it. When was the last time you read an entire book? 15 years ago, something like that that and it was uh it was anthony ketis's autobiography the red hot chili peppers lead singer uh i've read two sports books and that and those are pretty much the only books i've ever read for for pleasure i have a big game of thrones book that i'd like to crack open at some point though, with the history of it. Anyway, Hunter Redfro.

Hunter Redfro. Yes, it does. To be or not to be? Hunter Redfro. Be. Absolutely be. Okay. Brian Edwards. You can't trust on the touchdowns. Can't count on the touchdowns, but non-PPR

is a little risky. PPR, he's still very, very safe. What about Brian Edwards? Risky. So last week was great. Again, hopefully Deshaun Jackson changing some things opens up opportunities for him. But you got to see it at least one more time.

Hunter Renfro or Michael Pittman in a half PPR league? I know you said in full PPR you'd start Renfro. What about half PPR? Renfro. I'd start Renfro over Pittman and none. Okay. Renfro or Myles Gaskin? Gaskin.

I think I'll go Gaskin. Full PPR, I'll take Renfro. Start Darren Waller. He's fine. This is his 16-game pace since week one. Week one, he had 19... How do you do 16 games? I've been over this before, but I'll say it again.

Because, first of all, pro football reference still does. Okay. And two, I think just I know what a good 16-game season is. We all know that. So we don't know. We haven't seen 17 games. You just get math class too? No, I love math.

Since week one, his 16-game pace is 78 catches, 889 yards, and only two touchdowns on 119 targets. A crazy low touchdown rate for Waller. And he has been very close to scoring. He's scoring this week. I'm telling you, he's scoring. Did Cliff's Notes exist when you were in school? Oh, yeah.

I don't remember that existing. And Spark Notes. Oh, my gosh. I was all over that. I would go to Barnes & Noble to read the Cliff Notes. That was what I would do in high school. And let's go to Miami and the Jets. Would you drive other people around

while you were doing that too? Probably. I was always good at that. No, that's when he'd drop them off, go to Barnes & Noble, and then they'd call him when they were done. You drop them off at the bar, you go to Barnes & Noble to read cliff notes, and they come back again. Yeah, exactly. You know, I tried to read the Alexander Hamilton biography. Yeah.

It's taken me four months. Have you seen that thing? It's like the Bible. Who could read that? It's really interesting, the three pages I got to. Who could read that? Just watch a documentary or see the play. Miami at the Jets.

We've pretty much covered the stats of the game. Number one, this is amazing. And this is why we like asking 14 running backs have scored double digit, non PPR fantasy points in nine games against the jets, like one and a half. It's incredible. Stat of the game.

Number two, though, is this the dolphins. They used to be a layup for running backs. In their last three games, they were allowing 3.1 yards per carry to backs. They haven't allowed a rushing touchdown. It's hard to know if it's the competition or if it's the defense. It's definitely the competition.

The defense has played better, but I mean, the last two weeks, they haven't faced a good running back the last two weeks. Three weeks. I really don't consider the Bills running backs to be good. So, Bills, Texans, Ravens. But the last two weeks, I mean, i really don't consider the bills running backs to be good so bills texans if you want to put the you know yeah but the last two weeks i mean you're talking about bad running teams from the running back position baltimore is obviously a different running team but their running backs haven't been good there's a couple of these i'd put the packers in the same

discussion like it's this week is kind of going to decide in my mind how much they have improved versus early in the year. Are the Packers a team that you just don't want to start anybody against? Are the dolphins like an above average defense now? I don't, I don't know for sure. Yeah. And Packers in the last two weeks have been against the chiefs and the

Seahawks and they've been great, but well, the Cardinals two or three weeks ago. Yeah, but they, right. But no Hopkins for the most part, no Rogers or they, wait, sorry. They didn't have Devante Adams. Yeah, but they're right. But no Hopkins for the most part. No Rogers.

Or sorry, wait, sorry. They didn't have Devante Adams. You know, that was when the Chiefs were bad. And last week was Russell Wilson just being off. But I think I love these periods when the Chiefs were good and when the Chiefs were bad. Yeah, but I think we're probably making too many excuses. I think they probably have a good defense, but they're really injured.

Yeah, but give the Packers. I mean, I certainly haven't given them enough respect, but give the Packers defense credit for part of the reason why the Chiefs were bad. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Well, I might put the Titans in the group, too, because the Titans have been quite a bit better lately defensively, and I don't know. They're still the worst team

against wide receivers. Right. All right. Well, listen, we've had very fun conversations today, but let's get back to starter set. I brought up that stat about the Dolphins' run defense. I want to know how you feel about Michael Carter. We got Joe Flacco starting. He made four starts for the Jets last year, did not throw to the running backs much at all.

So, Heath, how do we feel about Carter now? I don't. He was a high-end number two running back for me at the beginning of the week. He's more of a mid-range to low-end, but I still think he's likely to get 15 to 18 touches and you pretty much start that guy i would start him over antonio gibson i would start him over the patriots guys over the bills guys the one i'm really really struggling with right now

and it's probably just because of the name is saquon because i don't really expect him to get a full workload in his first football game in six weeks especially with the way they're talking and he's facing Tampa Bay and even though Tampa Bay doesn't have as isn't as good against the run maybe as they were earlier in the year it's still a worse matchup I think than the Dolphins uh yeah maybe I mean they've been bad with Vita V on the field the last couple, so we'll see how things go without him there. I would start Saquon over. I agree with everything he says except Saquon.

I'd start Saquon over Carter. And just to go back to Flacco for a second, it was a different offense. So, you know, LaFleur's offense is catered to using the running backs. Mike White did it on steroids. You know, Flacco is probably going to be closer to Zach Wilson, but I still think, you know, they've found some semblance of moving the ball when things are failing for them, and that's

been working, so I don't think they go completely away from it. And if the Dolphins' defense is as good as they were last week, we might see Mike White by the second quarter. If they put that kind of pressure on a statue like Flacco, he's going to get destroyed. Tua is 9th or 10th for everybody.

Jamie, he's your start of the week, so who are the big names you're starting Tua over? Russell Wilson. Trying to think of my rankings. Jalen Hurts. Carr. Carr. Burrow.

No, I think I think Burrow. I won't spot it. I'm trying to think who else is in that range. All right, but not Rodgers. No, I would start Rodgers over him. Not Herbert. No, the one I struggle with is Tannehill because of Tannehill's matchup,

but I think this could be more of a game-managing Tannehill as opposed to go out and light up the Texans' defense, where I think Tua's going to light up the Jets' defense. Okay. I am all in. I've got him seventh now. Oh, wow.

He's your start of the week. Start Gasicki. He's around seventh in non-PPR, fifth or sixth for Jamie and Heath in full PPR. And who are the wide receivers that you like in this game? Waddledle for sure. You know, great opportunity for him against the jets.

I don't buy the jets numbers in terms of against fantasy wide receivers. I think it's a myth. So I think Waddle has a big game. If you're desperate, you know, Albert Wilson and Isaiah Ford show some stuff last week. So you can go that route, but I think it's,

it's Waddle. And then the jets guys, and I would still put Davis ahead of Elijah Moore. then James and Crowder's a distant fourth I I actually kind of like Crowder or Davis as a as a number three wide receiver I think Flacco will be better for him than uh than Mike White probably was assuming he could stay in the game so I I would start Corey Davis over like Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley. Here's an Acer stat for you. Corey Davis has faced the Patriots twice.

If you take out the Patriots games, he has 93 or more yards in three of five games. That's not really that bad. Corey Davis. I like that Acer stat a lot. Yeah, you just have to wonder, is Xavier Howard and Byron Jones back to being what they were expected to be? Yes. Would you start Corey Davis

or a Giants wide receiver? Davis. Davis. Would you start Corey Davis? Unless Deppard plays. Okay. Or Deontay Foreman or Corey Davis? I would go Foreman and non-PPR.

Yeah, Davis and PPR. That's such a gross question. I'm kind of struggling with Davis against Kirk. With Hopkins out? Yeah. And Kyler out? Yeah. Why don't we just say if Kyler's in, we go Kirk.

If Kyler's out, we go Davis. Can we say that? Okay. I would go Kirkirk either way all right we'd get you say that too okay that's um i we always get a ton of waddle questions so let me just do some waddling real quick waddle or waddle or um antonio gibson waddle for me and ppr and i'll go on and on yeah waddle or michael carter waddle i think i'd probably go carter i would start waddle over dj moore and michael pitman would you start waddle over amari cooper i would not yes okay all right a little split there take a quick break when we come back we, we got San Francisco at Jacksonville. Is the Jaguars defense for real?

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10 quarters, and that is Buffalo, Indianapolis, and I think the last two quarters of the Seattle game. They gave up 113 rushing guards to Jonathan Taylor last week. 93 of them came in the first quarter, so I don't know what that means to you, but it's

a fact. I don't really have a good stat of the game here. I'll give you it later. It's on Brandon. You just gave us like three. Okay, fine. That works for me. So, yeah, I think for this game,

the only tough call probably is Garoppolo. He's actually been playing pretty well lately. And obviously you're starting Kittle and Debo. Maybe IU because it's a tough call. Heath, how do you see San Francisco in this game? I like Garoppolo as a streamer if you can't get Tua. I am starting Debo

and Kittle. Iuke is a low end number three wide receiver, but I do think he has sneaky upside. It's just that his floor is almost nothing. I'm a little bit skeptical. I think we're probably going to get Mitchell playing. We'll probably put him back in the rankings, hopefully today. Hopefully he has a full practice today, or at least more good information.

But if it's Wilson and no Mitchell, that's kind of a tough call. I mean, it's really a tough call tonight. What's that? A tough call tonight if you have a 49ers guy, right? If you don't have a backup plan, I think you have to start both Patriots over him and you have to consider Mike Davis and PPR. It is a good run

defense for the Jaguars, but why are you so much more confident in Eli Mitchell than you would be in Jeff Wilson if Mitchell were out? You just think he's better? Well, I do think he's a little bit better, but I also don't have as...

Like, when Mitchell's played, he's been either all the touches or 20-plus touches. And there were a couple of games last year where they did that for Jeff Wilson, but for most of Wilson's career, anytime he's been a part of it, it's been a two-guy attack. And he's only got 10 carries on the season.

So I don't know that he would walk into a situation where he gets 20 touches in a good game stripped. Okay. Yeah, I would buy, if there's no Mitchell, I'd buy Wilson. I think the Jaguars defense has definitely played better, but this is more about the 49ers run game. And I'm not judging him based on 10 carries for 28 yards last week

when Mitchell didn't run well either. He just got a lot more work. And so, you know, you've seen Mitchell. It's basically 16 to 18 carries. I think that would be Wilson. It's clear they do not trust Trey Sermon. And to Michael Hasty, once again, on the injury report with an ankle problem. So if it's Wilson and Sermon as the duo, I think Wilson's headed for a big workload,

which will make him a pretty safe number two running back this week. And my stat on Brandon Ayuk was that he's had a 25%, 20%, and 20% target share in his last three games. Just not a lot of pass attempts for Jimmy Garoppolo. Ayuk actually has the better matchup if they're going to put Shaquille Griffin on Debo. Now, we know Debo is more of a gadget player that's having a monstrous— I don't want to minimize that by saying that, but we know he's going to do different things to get the ball. So it's a great spot for him. You're not getting away from Debo Samuel. But if they get into a situation where they can't throw to Debo to the same level of success,

and you've seen what Griffin has done, it's A.J. Brown, tough matchup. D.K. Metcalf had two touchdowns, but six catches, 43 yards. Diggs was six for 85. Pittman was five for 71. You know, so if we see, you know, a spot where Samuel's not getting the ball, I think Iuka's going to have some opportunities against Tyson Campbell.

Any hesitation with James Robinson? I mean, a little bit, just based on the fact that he showed up with a knee injury on the injury report. It seems like it's just minor and they're keeping an eye on it. But if he's playing, I'm playing him. There's no way you're getting around James Robinson, especially with what the running back position looks like this week. I'm a little, maybe slightly more concerned than Jamie is.

I would start Gaskin over him in PPR. All right. And how about Agnew and Dan Arnold? I mean, Dan Arnold is a start at this point, right? Yes. Yeah, not an easy matchup, but you're starting Arnold. I mean, I think we just kind of sum up the Jaguars receivers by just saying Ag-ew.

It's just bad. They're just bad. So we're not starting Ag-new. He would be my favorite Jaguars receiver, but no, I would prefer to stay away from him. End of the game. Boom, bust flex. San Francisco DST is certainly in play. Third for Heath.

Seventh for Jamie. Tenth for Dave. Okay. Pittsburgh at the Chargers. Heath, can you name the two kickers in that game? Jacksonville and San Francisco. The two kickers, Robbie Gould. Gould.

And Matthew Wright. Good job. Yeah, all right. So, Pittsburgh at the Chargers. The injuries, I have to look up the DST that Heath is too low on. So, while I do that, Jamie, talk about how the injuries on defense and the COVID situations on defense are factoring in with this game. The Steelers-Chargers game? Yes. The Chargers one, you mentioned it. I think the big one is obviously Joey Bosa, but Jerry Tillery, something to keep an eye on there. But you're not getting

away from the main guys for Pittsburgh, no matter who the quarterback is. So Roethlisberger plays. It's a boost for Deontay Johnson, but you're still starting him. Chase Claypool plays. I still think he hit best. He's number three receiver. And Pat Frymuth is still a starting tight end,

especially if Roethlisberger's back. The Chargers have been bad against tight ends for the majority of the season. And then the Steelers' injuries are the really more concerning ones for me. T.J. Watt, if he doesn't play with the hip and knee injury, Megan Fitzpatrick is almost certainly out with the COVID situation. And Joe Hayden's dealing with foot injuries. So that should really be good for the Chargers passing game. And hopefully it's a Mike Williams bounce back game. Keenan Allen continues to do what he does.

And Austin Eckler is a must-start guy no matter what. Okay, Heath is, first of all, way too high on the Buccaneers, having the number one. I take that as a personal insult. But way too low on the Miami Dolphins. Ninth. Ninth. Jamie's got the Dolphins second.

He's a Joe Flacco guy. I mean, they both have great mustaches. That's true. Almost every week we've done this, it's been the defense facing the Jets. Oh, but yep, you're 100% right. Yep, absolutely. And they burn me every time.

All right, so this game, Pittsburgh at the Chargers. Here's my stat of the game. I really couldn't find one. Najee Harris is good, and the Chargers' run defense is bad. That's my stat of the game. This game has a lot of obvious starts and sits, right? Harris and Eckler, even though Eckler's been struggling a little bit lately,

you're starting them. How are you getting away from Keenan Allen? How are you getting away from Deontay Johnson? I would say if Mason Rudolph plays, are you sitting Deontay Johnson? No. No. Okay.

He really hasn't been so great lately. His PPR fantasy points in his last five games are certainly worth starting. No. Okay. He really hasn't been so great lately. His PPR fantasy points in his last five games are certainly worth starting. But 15-18, 15-11, 13. It's been a good, not a great player. He just hasn't scored in a while. All right, so then the tough calls are what? Claypool, Friar Muth, Mike Williams?

Oh, and Herbert. I'm sorry let's go we'll do herbert after but in terms of claypool friar muth mike williams i think it's just mike williams is a tough call claypool's a sit i don't want to trust claypool yeah yeah all right that's makes sense and i'm probably just going to start mike williams one more week and feel dumb if he busts but they're trying so hard to get him into the end zone. He gets target after target inside the 10-yard line. I understand, but it's only five targets a game. It's like four of his last five games.

I think if both if all three of those guys are out for the Steelers, there's a lot to like about Mike Williams. I don't know if Mike Williams is healthy. You go back, I think it was the Baltimore game that he was supposed to miss. Remember he didn't practice all week and then he played. They said he's not healthy.

They said it's not a factor. His own coach said that. But he just hasn't been right since then. If you're trying to find some reason for what's gone wrong, is it that? Is it Herbert doesn't trust him anymore? Is it the coaching staff doesn't trust him anymore? Something's the offense? The coaching staff doesn't trust him anymore.

Something's going wrong with him because he's not getting the opportunities. He's not making plays. He's not getting targets, like you said, Adam. I'll buy back into him for one more week, but it's more of a who else do I have? I have him in two leagues. One, I'm definitely not playing. I only have to play. This is a weird format where I play two receivers and a flex and only one running back, so he's not playing. I only have to play. This is, this is a weird format where I

played two receivers and a flex and only one running back. So he's not cracking that lineup. And then the other league, it's where I have Cooper cup on a buy. And Mike Williams has been in a rotation as the second guy. So I'm gonna play him in place of cup, but I hope that he scores. There's just, it's a good opportunity because we've seen the Steelers not be great against receivers all season. Um, and now you're taking potentially Fitzpatrick and Hayden out of the secondary and their best pass rusher off the field. So if those three guys are missing them, the Chargers offense should be really good.

What if they're not though? What if, what if, what, what place? It's a bad offensive line too. It would be, it would be a slight downgrade for Herbert,

but I'd still start him and it'd be a slight downgrade, I, but I'd still start him. And it'd be a slight downgrade, I think, for Williams, but I'd still start him. But I think it's more about the whole package. If they're missing any of these three guys, with Cam Hayward, you could argue and I guess Bush, that those are their best defenders. So you wouldn't play Corey Davis over Mike Williams?

No. No, I feel like I should. I'd play Mike Williams over Pittman. How about Jalen Waddell and Hunter Renfro? Easy. Over Williams. Okay. Non-PPR is tougher, but PPR for sure.

What about running backs like Deontay Foreman or Mike Williams? Or Deontay Foreman? I'd still stick with Williams. Yeah. And do you trust Friar Muth if Mason Rudolph plays? Yeah. I'll tell you that. Trust, no.

Start, yes. Exactly. That's exactly what I was going to say. I mean, you could go with a Dan Arnold or a Conklin or an Evan Ingram or something like that. I mean, where would you end up? I would probably go with Arnold over him if it was Mason Rudolph. Yes.

I would go with Arnold over Frymuth in PPR if it's Ben. Okay. In non-PPR, it's Frymuth. How about Justin Herbert? I don't know if there's anything else you want to say. It's just the injuries that have you guys encouraged because he's been 16 or fewer fantasy points in three of his

last four games. It's absolutely the injuries. If Pittsburgh was 100% healthy, I'd be much more concerned. Okay. Alright, so you did not... Did either of you get to Tua over Herbert?

No. No. No. I have him back-to-back. You don't want to miss that 35-point game like you had at Philadelphia just a couple of weeks ago. I think that wraps it up for this game. Let's go to... Oh, my cousin Vinny was on there, and I watched the game.

Me too. Me too. And I'm finished with this guy. On Paramount? Yep. Yep. Paramount's great, man. got like great movies all the time yep by the way i uh i didn't think i was gonna get to this point because i didn't really like the first episode i was disturbed by it but yeah i'm i'm hooked on squid game i forgot you guys watch it? Not yet.

I've not. It's not a thing for me, right? No. You know what? It's a damn good show, except I think the violence is gratuitous. It's just disturbing. I'll probably just read a book instead. Everything that's not violence is actually really good

and very compelling. Detroit at Cleveland. We've got two games left. We've got detroit at cleveland and houston i don't read the books detroit at cleveland need no read i have a stat of the game oh i couldn't tell who it was about but now i know who it's about deandre swift you know heath made a great point to to point out that dan campbell took over the plate calling duties and things kind of changed but he still had six targets at pittsburgh and that was with jared golf throwing 25 passes so the possibility maybe of a workhorse back and involved in the passing moment it was weird they had five receiving yards but still got the targets there was this thing, and Pete talked about it multiple times

early in the season on FFT about how Anthony Lynn liked Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams didn't play last week, but it did seem like we had the Campbell quote early in the year about how they have to get the ball to DeAndre Swift more. And then there was the Anthony Lynn likes Jamal Williams thing. And then the first game where Dan Campbell calls plays, DeAndre Swift gets 36 touches. I'm not sure he can play the rest of the season

with Dan Campbell calling plays because he might get just destroyed. But I think DeAndre Swift's going to get a lot of touches as long as Dan Campbell is calling plays. Is there anything tricky in this game? I guess the only tricky thing would be is are you still confident in TJ Hawkinson?

Yeah, we can get to Jarvis Landry in a second too, but yes. Are you still confident in TJ Hawkinson? He had a game in week five where he had two catches for 22 yards on three targets. And in his following three games, 11 targets, nine targets, 11 targets.

So you hope for that same kind of response after a one target game at Pittsburgh. Are you confident? I would hope so. I also don't think that they're going to be competitive in this game early. If the Browns run game is doing what the Browns run game typically does. And the Browns defense shows up, especially if it's Tim Boyle starting a quarterback for Detroit. One thing that I think that's,

it's not just the play calling for Dan Campbell, their offensive line is finally healthy. You know, the group that they were expecting to have early in the season is there for Detroit. So thing that I think that's, it's not just the play calling for Dan Campbell, their offensive line is finally healthy. You know, the group that they were expecting to have early in the season is there for Detroit. So that's big, which I think helped tremendously against Pittsburgh. But look, if the Browns, this feels like, you know, what the Browns do.

You know, they come off a loss and they bounce back and they play well. You know, go back to the Bengals game, the first time they got rid of Odell Beckham and how they performed against Cincinnati. I think they're going to have their way with Detroit. I think it's going to be a little bit tough for the Lions offensively, but you're not benching DeAndre Swift.

No, but Hawkinson. Are you benching Hawkinson? Or Hawkinson. I think Hawkinson's still a starting tight end. You've got to have a lot of faith in either A, have picked up Hunter Henry along the way and you want to trust the touchdown potential have a lot of faith you know in either a have picked up hunter henry along the way and you want to trust you know the touchdown potential there tonight or you know dan arnold and ppr but i still think most people that have had hockinson i have hockinson obviously a couple leagues i'm not benching him uh in this matchup okay and then heath any interest in jarvis

lancer or donathan people's jones i i have a little bit that the donovan people's jones injury thing we obviously have to keep an eye on thatovan people's Jones injury thing. We obviously have to keep an eye on that. If he's not at practice today, then I'll probably just cancel that interest. But I do think Jarvis Landry, like compared to any of the wide receivers in tonight's game, I would probably rather start him over all those guys. He's right in that Jacoby Myers range. I like the fact that he's had 18 targets over the past two weeks. It's too bad that he's not really done anything with them, but I, I,

I don't mind him as a number three. Landry was talking about not getting the ball. Yeah. You will game coming. He also talked about how he's not healthy though. And he's, we know he's just playing so beat up. The lions suck.

They also give up a lot of big pass plays. That's the question I have, too. Because DK was talking about get your playmakers to bowl. Does the squeaky wheel game count if you're actually getting a ton of targets? That's a good point. Landry has 18 targets over the past two weeks. What are you complaining about?

Do something with them. I agree. Wait, does he have 18? That seems high. Or are we going in reverse order? seems like we're going in reverse you're going in reverse come on put the top games first of all thank you for reading the notes I do appreciate that I live by the news I just got 10 targets last

week he had 18 I was I was reading Adam's notes in the wrong order I would agree four games I assumed the top two games were the two most recent no I never do it that way I do Adam was writing notes in the wrong order. I would agree. The last four games, I assumed the top two games were the two most recent. No, I never do it that way. I do it...

Adam was writing in Hebrew. He was going left to right. Yeah. Well, how would you write that? If you were going to write out the last four games for someone, Jamie, would you do...

I want the most recent game. Would you do a most recent on top or a most recent on the bottom? Most recent on the bottom. Of course. Come on. So his targets have been 8, 10, 5, and 5

over the last four games. Detroit gives up a lot of big pass plays. It's kind of their thing. And they've allowed 97. I like it. Any interest in Austin Hooper? He's got 6, 2, and 5 targets in his last three games.

Which three? Three games ago he had 6 or three games ago he had 5? Three games ago he had 6 six, or three games ago, you had five? Three games ago, you had six. You know, like Rocky VI, when Adrian was resurrected. I think I still have Njoku ahead of Hooper. All right, Houston at Tennessee. We're still more games? One more.

You talk about big plays. David Njoku makes big plays. If there's no Donovan Peoples-Jones, I might like Njoku a little more as a DFS play. Okay. I think Adam Troutman's... I think we just reiterate, if there's no Nick Chubb,

Dearness Johnson is a superstar. Yeah, yeah. Super-duper star. Houston at Tennessee. Stat of the game. Everyone scores. The Texans have played nine games. A running back has scored in seven of them.

The two exceptions were jacksonville in week one or james robinson got five carries and carolina in week i want to say three when christian mccaffrey left with an injury so everyone scores we're hoping deontay foreman starts to take over a little bit heath what's holding you back from moving foreman up in your rankings and would you pay attention at the beginning of the show we said Deontay Foreman's not a rankings dispute anymore because I moved him up to 24th. We talked about how Jeremy McNichol did the concussion protocol, and none of us knew that until yesterday. And so I like Deontay Foreman as a borderline number two. All right.

So my problem – the reason why I forgot is because when I think about what was said on the show, I go from the end of the show to the beginning of the show as I try to recall. I understand. That makes sense. All right. So, JB, where do you have Foreman now? Is Heath the high guy on Foreman now with 24? He might be. He's not far from me.

I also have not removed McNichols yet because the show is taking six hours. So, Foreman is a borderline starter as long as McNichols misses the game. But even so, he's a strong flex play, I think. The takeover happens this week. All right, Brandon Cooks. You also would like to know a mistake that Heath made in looking at something.

He thought that this was a homecoming game for Adrian Peterson. That's right. I remember that. I remember that show too, but he'd already forgotten. No, I remember. So we like Foreman as a low-end starter.

Stat of the game number two, the Texans allow the fourth most fantasy points to tight ends, and Ryan Tannehill has thrown a touchdown to a tight end in four straight games.

Two to Pruitt, two to Swaim. You can have fun with that one. Probably not going to use them, but don't be shocked if a tight end scores. Brandon Cooks, big game,

must start? Yes, must start. Obviously, the quarterback was different last year, but in the two games against the Titans, you know what his numbers are? No. 20 catches, 234 yards, and three touchdowns. All right. Yeah, start Brandon Cooks, start A.J. Brown.

I think I'm surprised that you guys have Ryan Tannehill as high as you do. That was actually what inspired me to say that it was a crummy week for quarterbacks. If he's top 12, he's eighth for Heath now. Something like that. Our projections have him top five, too, on sports line. Just hasn't really earned that. He's only had two good games. They've been both against the Colts.

I know it's a good matchup. I saw the last month, and I'm going to pull this up, that he has been like the number. I think he's been a top. I mean, I don't know exactly what it was, so I'm going to pull it up. One thing, he's had a lot of his rushing touchdowns. Yes. And he has taken over a little bit more of the outside runs inside the five-yard line, I think,

because they don't exactly have guys to run those types of plays right now. So I like his chances to get in the end zone on the ground. Yeah, he scored four of his past five games, he scored a rushing touchdown. But he's been 20 or more fantasy points in three of his last four. Not a very high ceiling in those games, but at least he's gotten you to 20. And again, history, if we're looking at Brandon Cook's history in this matchup, Tannehill's history in this matchup,

he averages 28.5 fantasy points per game against Houston in his past four games against them. Since week seven, Matthew Stafford is the only quarterback who has scored more fantasy points than Ryan Tannehill in four points per passing touchdown weeks. Interesting. Okay, so Tannehill or Russ? Tannehill.

Tannehill. Tannehill or... Well, I know you're going to take him over Carr. He's going to be close with Tua. I think I pretty much know where he hurts. Or Tannehill. Tannehill. Tannehill.

Anyone else that's not obvious? Marcus Johnson had 100 yards last week. He has 160 for the season. I want him on my bench. He has a 20% target share in the last three games without Julio. I think he's a good DFS play where he's cheap. I know on FanDuel his price was bumped up a little

too much. He's already 5,600. Great matchup, good volume, and Vrabel was praising him in the press conference last week. Any interest in a Texans running back? No. All right.

Go do your thing. Get out of here now, Jamie. By the way, if the show is too long, make sure you read the cliff notes or just check the timestamps. I'll leave you working on that joke. Wait until the movie comes out. About five minutes, right at the start of this game

when you were saying how long the show was taking. It was a long one, but a very good one. Much appreciated. We'll talk to you 2 p.m. on YouTube. YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today. If you have any starts and questions, you can ask them there. The Wood hates our show. Inside joke.

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