Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Pierce? Russ? Mike Williams? (09/29 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

It's a "Prove It" week for some players like Russell Wilson and D.J. Moore! Do we have faith in them? Who do we love this week (4:00) and who are we avoiding (6:55)? Jamaal Williams is our Start of the Week, but CEH is a player to avoid. We also have a crazy Diontae Johnson stat (9:35) ... News and notes (11:46) and One Question for Each Game (19:05). Do we trust any Jaguars this week? Is Rashod Bateman a good start? How much does Zach Wilson change things for the Jets? Are we starting all Browns? How about the Packers passing game? ... Start or Sit for Broncos-Raiders (27:00), Bills-Ravens (37:30), Jaguars-Eagles (43:05), Jets-Steelers (51:35), Chargers-Texans (1:01:30), Browns-Falcons (1:06:15), Patriots-Packers (1:10:15) and Titans-Colts (1:15:15) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Let's get into those week four games. Not too many AFC home games, so we've got to borrow some from the NFC slate. But we're going to talk about Denver and Las Vegas, Buffalo and Baltimore, Zach Wilson's debut, Cleveland and Atlanta, and four more games. I'll tell you about them in a little bit. I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Heath Cummings, and here we go. We got

starters here. We're going to get Tua Tungabailoa tonight. Looks like he's going to play. Very excited for tonight's game, and very excited for this slate, and I don't want to surprise you with a question here, but I'm going to surprise you with a question. Anybody that you can think of that has a prove-it

week to you, a prove-it week to you. A prove-it week. I'm going to talk for just a little bit to give Heath and Jamie some time to think about it. Oh, I got it. It's easy. Okay, prove-it week, Jamie. I mean, it's got to be DJ Moore and Brandon Cooks, right? Those guys have it's their time. And I think they

will. I think they'll come through with better than what we've seen performances. I think this is going to be the breakout game for Cooks. And I think DJ Moore will remind people who he is. I don't know if he'll have like the greatest game, but I think he'll make you want to hold on to him. Okay. Are you sure?

Is that Heath or is that Jamie? Well, Cooks, though, you guys are very different on. And I was going to ask you about that. Cooks, Heath hasn't been in the top 20. Is that right? Well, all right. I got you guys are very different on, and I was going to ask you about that. Cooks, Heath has him in the top 20. Is that right? No. Well, all right, got to hit refresh, because as of yesterday, as of this morning, he's in the 30s.

All right, Cooks is now, yeah, Cooks, you got him? You got him? Oh, 20th, there he is. You moved him up quite a bit. Dave has him 32nd. All right, Heath, anybody that you feel needs to prove it? I mean, there's like 17 million players we thought were going to be good that have been kind of meh and um i the one i

would say is russell wilson the raiders defense is not raiders defense is not very good um it's time and he's played multiple defenses that are not very good this year but it's time to prove this whole thing is not just going to be a disaster. Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. I think Brady, too. Brady goes off this week. By the way, with Brandon Cooks, how much will J.C. Jackson's status impact your Brandon Cooks ranking? I think if he plays, he's not playing 100%.

So I'm not necessarily so concerned about it. The Bosa injury is really more the problem. I loved the Chargers defense last week. Obviously, I was a fool for that based on the outcome. But when I had them rank one, it was with the expectation that Jackson was going to play, and he didn't, and that Bosa wasn't going to get hurt, and he did. So that was just a brutal game for them all the way around.

You lose your left tackle, you don't have your star receiver, you don't have your best pass rusher and your best corner, and the Jaguars are obviously better than I thought they were going to be in that matchup. But for this week, no, I think Cooks, probably chasing points, will be in a good spot. Yeah, the Chargers without Joey Bosa are, I don't think they're as bad as the Steelers without TJ Watt. I think I saw yesterday the Steelers have never won without TJ Watt.

Is that possible? And maybe they're like over the last, no wins in the last six games without Watt, something like that. But without Bosa, the Chargers, last year they played one game without Bosa. It was against Houston. They gave up 41 points, 34 points on defense. Their last five games without Bosa over the last two seasons,

they've given up 29 or more points in three of five games. And one of the games that they didn't was against Chiefs backups. So they've been horrible without Bosa. Now, to be fair, they didn't have anybody opposite of him like they do now. Yeah, it's true. It's true. And they should have just a better overall defense. I guess that's not fair. Melvin Ingram's been a pretty good player. Alright, so that's who, we got some prove-it weeks this week,

some Joe Boo weeks. And how about players we love, Jamie? Let's start it off with the start of the week. I have two. The start of the week is Jamal Williams. Love the setup for him. You know, we've seen certainly what this Detroit Rush offense could be. They've already produced four games between him is Jamal Williams. Love the setup for him. We've seen certainly what this Detroit rush offense could be. They've already produced four games between him, Jamal Williams, and DeAndre Swift of 16 or more PPR points.

And so they've done a great job of just running the ball, and I think that will continue in this matchup against Seattle, which has already allowed two running backs to go over 21 PPR points, Javante Williams in week one and Cordero Patterson last week. So Jamal set up for a top 10 week. The other player that I love, I'll go back to the defense, the Packers defense this week.

I think they're going to be just monstrous against the Patriots at home. All right. Heath, how about you? Who do you love? Yeah, I'll take the other backup running back who we expect to start, Khalil Herbert. We just saw the Cowboys run all over this Giants defense.

It might be different if the Giants get healthy, but I still think as long as David Montgomery's not there, Khalil Herbert's going to get 20 touches and probably be a top 10 running back. Five games as a feature back in his career. He's had 18 or more carries in all of them. And Leonard Williams was limited in practice on Wednesday for the Giants. It doesn't mean he's going to play.

It is encouraging to see the progress, though. But yeah, these guys, no matter who, no matter Leonard Williams' status for the Giants won't change the rankings too much, I assume, for Herbert. So guys, for Jamal Williams and Khalil Herbert, how good are they going to be? And in terms of the rankings, you know, are they going to be in your top 12? They both are, yes. Yeah, Heath, how about you? Both? Yeah, they're 10 and 11. I would start both of them over two first-round picks, for sure. Over Najee Harris and over Joe Mixon. What about Derrick Henry?

I'll throw in Dalvin Cook as well. What about Derrick Henry? Henry's facing the, so far, toughest run defense in football in the Colts. I don't currently have it ranked that way, but that might change. Okay. I hope what we saw from Henry last week continues with the role in the pass game. I know. You know, he's kind of got...

You feel like Derrick Henry kind of has to get going a little bit before he can be good? If you get to him in the backfield, he's not going to spin away from you, right? But he's got cartoon feet. It kind of goes in place, and then you can't stop him. So you've got to get him in space a little bit because the line's not what it used to be. The broadcast for the Raiders game this weekend was talking about how

when you see him go sideways, it's a win for the defense. When he's going north-south, you're in trouble. And, you know, if he's going downhill, it's hard to get in front of him. Alright, who are we avoiding this week? Jamie, you want to start? Who are we avoiding? I would avoid Clyde Edwards-Hilaire this week.

Last week's game was very troubling from the standpoint of seven carries and no yards. Touchdown saved you. Aside from the big run against the Chargers on Thursday night, he's been a little touchdown

dependent. I like his role in the passing game. His floor and PPR is okay. But the touchdowns have saved him a little bit. The fact that he's got eight carries or less in three games in a row is a little troubling. And this run defense, as we know, is pretty amazing, even without the Dominican Sioux and Akeem Hicks. They were pretty good last week against a very good rushing attack.

All right. CEH is someone to, if you can, try to avoid. Heath, how about you? Who are you avoiding this week? I'd like to avoid both Matthew Stafford and Cam Akers and Allen Robinson. This 49ers defense has been really impressive. And they've not played a lot of great offenses. We thought they were going to play one last week,

and they completely destroyed them. I just, the 49ers have kind of had the Rams number. I still think the Rams probably find a way to win it, but this looks like a really low scoring game. I don't want to start Stafford or Akers. Is this a bad quarterback week? Yes. I mean, so far it's been a bad

quarterback season. Sure. But I mean, I'm thinking about the Raiders-Broncos game in particular and you guys have Wilson. You have Wilson between 12 and 14. Carr, I was surprised Dave and Heath both have Carr ninth. Again, a really tough matchup. And I don't know.

Just, I don't know. Talk about the quarterback landscape, Heath, this week. I still don't want to start Tom Brady. I still don't want. Talk about the quarterback landscape, Heath, this week. I still don't want to start Tom Brady. I still don't want to start Russell Wilson. Trey Lance got hurt, and Justin Fields fell off the face of the earth. I don't want to start Matthew Stafford. It's really tough. And the only guys that have really emerged, Carson Wentz,

you don't feel great about because of Dallas' pass rush, Marcus Mariota, and Jared Goff are my favorite streamers. But those aren't guys that you really think could be top five quarterbacks. They're guys that, well, they'll probably finish close to 12. It's pretty gross, and it feels pretty good if you have Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson. What about Tua? I'm starting him.

Do you like him better than Derek Carr? Yeah. And Russell Wilson, obviously. Tua is 11th for Jamie and 14th for Dave, 8th for Heath. Okay, I'm going to give you

a crazy stat real quick here. This one really stood out to me last night doing some research. Deontay Johnson has 21 catches this year. Deontay Johnson has 8 yards after the catch. He is averaging.4 yards after catch per catch. That is insane. He has been 5.2, 4.5, and 4.9 yards after catch per catch. About 5 yards after the catch per catch each of the last three years.

This year, 0.4 for Deontay Johnson. That is, I mean, it's really, I don't even know the fantasy relevance. It's just really interesting and insane. And that is how you have all these targets and seven catches a game and no touchdowns. Because also, they've thrown four passes in the red zone this year well and like i've talked about a bunch like using yards per target or yards per reception the last three years he's been one of the least efficient wide receivers in football and this year it's gotten worse but this is why and there's no yak this is insane this is

five yards four to five yards lower than it usually is. His ADOT has gone up by three yards. That is also true. His ADOT's up. There should be a little bit of an expectation of a drop in yak when there's that big of an increase in ADOT. Yeah, but this is extreme. Anyway, we'll talk about the Jets and the Steelers. Pretty interesting game, actually actually from a fantasy standpoint and you can follow that jet stealers game or any game you

want on the cbs sports app this is a great time of year there's so many sports you're following so let's say it's sunday and you can't watch the baseball game that you want to watch because football's on or something like that um you just download the cbs sports app and you can watch games on the cbs sports app too there lightning-fast live scoring for every pro and college football game and all major sports, of course. You can track your favorite teams or just individual games that you have an interest in with the click of a button. And it's the way I get my breaking news alerts. I watch live sports on there, as I mentioned, and stay on top of all the latest updates. And the CBS Sports app is totally free on iPhone or Android.

And it's the easiest way to keep your finger on the pulse of every game that matters. Let's do some news and notes here. Quarterback news. Zach Wilson's going to start. Jameis Winston is questionable, but his head coach, Dennis Allen, says he thinks Winston will not miss the game.

And Winston says he thinks he'll play. They are in London to face Minnesota. Tua's questionable, but expected to play. And Dak Prescott, apparently now his most realistic return date is week six. We were hoping for week five. According to Ian Rappaport, week six is the most realistic return date for Dak. Every day is like a different report. So by the time we get the, you know, next Monday, it's probably like week 12.

Yeah, eventually they're going to say, oh, we probably should have put him on IR. All right, running back news. Christian McCaffrey. Is this a big deal, by the way? Christian McCaffrey missing practice with a quad injury. You never know with these Wednesday reports. But what do you guys think of this McCaffrey situation? So Jonathan Jones, our NFL insider,

who's probably plugged into the Panthers more so than any other team because he used to cover them, he said that this injury is more concerning than the other ones that have been bothering him over the last couple of weeks. So take that for what it's worth. Does that mean that he's going to miss any time? Doesn't sound like it. But you heard what he said last week, right? He said, I think it was something effective.

If I go pee, I'm on the injury report. Every time I take a piss, I'm on the injury report. I think you've got to anticipate that he's going to be fine at this point, but if you're in a deeper league you want to pick up... I think it's probably Chuba Hubbard over Deontay Foreman, but I think it would be a committee. There's no real Khalil

Herbert, Jamal Williams type of guy, but it might not be a bad idea to speculate just in case. Boston Scott mispracticed. J.K. Dobbins was limited with a chest injury. We know DeAndre Swift's got the ankle and shoulder issues. We knew about the shoulder. He also has an ankle issue. Don't expect DeAndre Swift this week.

Probably not next week. David Montgomery mispracticed. They still say David Montgomery's day-to-day. Dave mentioned that there are different internet doctors who think he has a high ankle sprain, but that has not come out from the Bears yet. Cordaro Patterson mispracticed. Remember, a lot of guys mispracticed on Wednesday,

so we're just keeping an eye on it. Cliff Kingsbury says he wants James Conner to be more involved in the offense. They're at Carolina this week. Dalvin Cook mispracticed, and Travis Homer is on IR for the Seahawks, which probably isn't a big deal, but might give you a few more catches for Rashad Penny, something like that. And they are at Detroit. Wide receiver news,

Jalen Waddell's questionable, but he will play. Amonra St. Brown mispracticed with an ankle injury. Can't say for sure that he's going to play this week. They are all sorts of banged up. Yeah, they really are, huh? DJ Tark was limited. Hawkinson mispracticed.

And I kept forgetting to mention, but they also lost a starting safety, Tracy Walker, for the season to an Achilles injury. Chris Godwin and Julio Jones were both limited. Julio would appear to have a better chance of playing this week. Keenan Allen was limited.

Rondell Moore was limited. Do you guys have any interest in picking up Rondell Moore if you have an open roster spot it's not a bad like if you're not going to play Greg Dortch and that's something you're considering if Rondell Moore comes back he's probably pushing Greg Dortch to the sidelines

27% rostered 27% rostered Rondell Moore what else we got Jarvis Landry and Michael Thomas mispracticed Jacoby Myers was limited 27% rostered. Huh? 27% rostered. Yeah. I don't know more. What else? We got Jarvis Landry and Michael Thomas mispracticed. Jacoby Myers was limited. The Titans want to get Traylon Burks more involved.

They were at the Colts this week. Mecole Hardman mispracticed and Hunter Renfro mispracticed. Maybe that opened something up for Mac Hollins. Tight end news, TJ Hawkinson. He's one of the banged up Lions. He has a foot issue. Dalton Schultz was limited in practice. Got a chance to play this week.

On the offensive line, the Ravens boss, Ronnie Stanley, could play this week. He practiced in full for the first time. And center Corey Linsley for the Chargers was limited in practice. On defense, we're looking at Darius Slay and Jair Alexander. They're two of the best cornerbacks in football. Slay missed practice. Jair Alexander left the game early last week. He's day-to-day.

Jordan Poyer, safety for the Bills. They're hoping to get him back this week. He was limited in practice. JC Jackson, Chargers star cornerback. He was limited in practice. The names I've said so far, Darius Slay, Jair Alexander, Jordan Poyer, JC Jackson. These are important pieces. Another important piece for the Ravens run defense. Ravens run defense has actually been

pretty bad so far, and they just suffered a big injury up front. Michael Pierce tore his biceps. He could either have season-ending surgery or play through it. He has not made that decision yet, but this makes an already suspect run defense even worse. And they've got Buffalo this week. And Denver, their best run. They haven't been good against the run either. Their best run stuff where DJ Jones has a concussion. He missed practice. Pittsburgh, I got to check on that stat.

How many games has TJ Watt missed? Because I saw that they were 0-6 without Watt. But I feel like he's missed a lot more than that. And Joey Bosa's on IR. Okay, those are your stats. You missed a lot more than that. And Joey Bosa's on IR. Okay, those are your stats. You missed a fun one, though. What did I miss? Jonathan Taylor mispractice. First time ever

that he's mispracticed in his life. Wow. High school, college, and the NFL. Interesting. He's okay, or is that... Yeah, according to everything, he's fine dealing with a toe injury. But I don't want to see him sit, but I'm so curious what they would do

because what we saw in the preseason with that one game against Buffalo, the first preseason game, where it was all Naeem Hines. By the way, yeah, TJ Watt's only missed six games. They're 0-6 in his career without TJ Watt. All right, you know what, Jamie? I don't love when TJ Watt misses games.

I love watching TJ Watt. And you love your Peloton. And everybody, if you can get a Peloton, you really got to get a Peloton. I am very jealous of all the Peloton people out there. Everyone loves their freaking Peloton. They always brag about it. And okay, I'm going to be part of that group. As soon as I move to a new house, I'm going to be on the Peloton.

I'm going to get in shape. I need to. Okay. So that's a great way to exercise. You can do it from the comfort of your home. And Jamie can tell you more about why he loves his Peloton. And the nice thing for you is obviously you're an in shape person to begin with, unlike me who has a dad bod and I have to lose a few pounds. But you know, it's not necessarily just about losing weight. It's also about toning up and getting in, you know, just better health. Um, I've said this time and time again, they're just ways to do things with Peloton and the Peloton app that don't necessarily require the bike or, or, or the treadmill. You can use the bands, you could do the band workouts. Uh, they do a lot of strength training. Um, uh, we love the meditation app. You know, we use that

for our kids all the time, but really on the bike is just a great way to, you know, get a workout in your home. The music is fantastic. The instructors are great. We're, you know, in a spot where we have a desk for our Peloton. So, you know, it's a good way to work while you're riding. For me tonight, when I'm watching the game Dolphins and Bengals, I'll get a ride in just to, you know, watch the game from a different perspective. So, yeah, I love Peloton.

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New members only. Terms apply. That's onepeloton.com. One P-E-L-O-T-O-N.com. And again, you can get a risk-free trial for 30 days for the Peloton Biker Tread. Thank you, Jamie. Let's do one question for each game. We have got eight games on the schedule today,

and we'll begin with one question for Denver at Las Vegas. Is this Russell Wilson's breakout game? Yes. Okay. Let's go. Has he? Yeah. I don't think he scored 15 points yet.

No, he hasn't. Oh, no, no, no. He did in week one, 19.8. My bad. 19.8. I think it has a decent chance of being his best game of the season. This is one of many games this week where the Vegas line is just kind of like, hmm, the Raiders are two-and-a-half point favorites,

and the Broncos have an implied total of 21-and-a-half. That's not a lot. It does not sound like Vegas expects this to be Russell Wilson's breakout game. It's hard to think the Raiders could be 0-4, you know? You've got to get a win at some point. All right, question for Buffalo at Baltimore. Rashad Bateman or Gabe Davis? This should be the smashiest of Gabe Davis smash weeks ever.

You've got a secondary that just lets people run down the field and do whatever they want, and that's what he does. He just run down the field and do whatever they want and that's what he does just run down the field and wait for josh allen to heave it um this should be if if we get another game where he goes three for 50 on five targets there may be some gabe davis concern how about rashad bateman any interest in him this week i have him as a third receiver in the one league where I have him, you know, so I think that's kind of where he's going to live.

You know, it's going to be a lot of two for 59, and if he scores, you're happy. If he doesn't, you know, you're getting a great yards per catch. Yep. I think he leads in yards per catch. He does.

Yeah, he's a big play machine. All right, Jacksonville at Philadelphia, one of the best stories of the year, those Jaguars. Do you trust any Jaguars this week, Jamie? Yeah, I'm still starting James Robinson and Christian Kirk. I think Lawrence is going to get some production still. You mentioned bad quarterback week.

I don't think he's going to have a 30-point game, but I think he'll be in that 18 to 22 range, so garbage time will matter. I think the Jaguars' offense is legit. You've got to buy into what you know, so garbage time will matter. I think the Jaguars offense is legit. You know, you got to buy into what you've seen so far through the first three weeks of the season. They're going to look back on that Washington game and really kick themselves at the end of missing the playoffs because of it, because that's a game that they were the better team on the field. They just didn't win.

So, yeah, no, I think the guys that have been productive so far, you know, it's really the Zay Joneses and the Evan Ingrams, you know, and Lawrence isn't a must start, clearly. But Kirk and Robinson have been too productive to sit them in this matchup. Yeah, this is another one where Vegas is kind of saying it's a prove-it game. They've got an implied total of 20.25, which is very, very low.

And it's a great defense they're facing. I've got a tough decision to make in a league where I have Wilson and Lawrence, and I still haven't decided. The Jets are at Pittsburgh how much are you changing your rankings or projections with Zach Wilson a quarterback heath I took away like three or four percent of target share from the running backs and gave it to the wide receivers that's pretty much it like there's always some normalization if joe flacco was starting i wouldn't project them for 50 pass attempts so that part was going to

be adjusted no matter who the quarterback was i think i've got wilson projected for 40 42. i'm pretty excited about this opportunity for him it's a second year quarterback we should expect him to be better than he was last year the steelers defense is not what we thought it was going to be at the beginning of the year they're not healthy right now and he's surrounded by fantastic weapons this I kind of want to maybe run a couple jets stacks out there in DFS I think it's very interesting how bad the Elijah Moore crowd is right now because the whole offseason it was Zach Wilson's bad for Elijah Moore and then Elijah Moore gets off to a bad start with Garrett Wilson playing at the level he's at and Tyler Conklin doing what he was doing and you know the first two games for Corey Davis

and then it's Zach Wilson will save Elijah Moore yeah well I was going to give this stat later but I'll just tell you now because the the uh the Elijah Moore people are saying Joe Flacco just throws too short and he doesn't throw downfield well are saying Joe Flacco just throws too short and he doesn't throw downfield. Well, guess what? Joe Flacco has basically the same exact air yards per pass attempt this year as Zach Wilson did last year. They're within one-tenth of a yard. The place that Wilson loved last year was a slot-wide receiver, and that's where Garrett Wilson's living. So it might just be better for Garrett Wilson. The Chargers are at Houston. Damian Pierce.

Another good game. Can you follow it up, Jamie? He's going to get the work. I mean, that's the encouraging thing. You know, I don't like that he's on the injury report and they brought in a couple guys to work out this weekend

or this week, excuse me. So, you know, I don't know what that means. Clearly, I saw Aaron Wilson who covers the team for Pro Football Network was asked about that. He said they're always going to try to bring

guys in for depth because it's not a very robust running back room. It appears it's healthy. You're looking at probably 20 carries. The Chargers, I don't think, are a run defense that you have to sit.

They've been terrible. They were terrible, terrible. And they were terrible last year. Yeah, I mean, if they get behind dramatically, which could happen, you know, we just haven't seen that from the Chargers yet. But if that happens, then he's in trouble. I just don't think that's necessarily

going to be the case early in the game. Starting Pierce over CEH? Oh, yeah. Okay. Heath, Cleveland at Atlanta. Start all Browns? I'm, yeah. Okay. Heath, Cleveland at Atlanta. Start all Browns? No. I'm not starting 30%.

I think Hunt is a flex, but a high-end flex. So if you have a flex, you're probably starting him. Cooper is a good number two wide receiver. And I don't have much confidence in Najoku. I wouldn't blame anyone for starting him but I I certainly wouldn't call him a must start and he's not in my top 12 tight ends um he's he's in that group of man I hope hope this is the week where he's good I hope it's not the week where he has two targets okay Patriots are at Packers any good starts for

the Packers with any good starts in this game other than Aaron Jones, Jamie? I'd still start Dylan. I mean, this is a game where they should win and have an opportunity to kill a clock, and he's gotten double-digit carries each of the first three weeks. And I would start Dobbs or Lazard as number three receivers depending on what your roster looks like. But nothing more than that.

I do think this is a good opportunity for Tanya. Seven targets last week, six catches. Hopefully he's getting healthy, building towards something. And the Patriots have been awful against tight ends, certainly the last three weeks. So, it wouldn't surprise me if he scores. Rodgers is also a low-end starter. Tennessee is

at Indianapolis. Do you trust Derrick Henry against what so far has been the best run defense in football? I don't think you're sitting Derrick Henry, but I don't think it's a smash week for Derrick Henry. I know. Yeah, I don't have the guts to sit Derrick Henry, but definitely. Yeah, they

got to keep giving him the ball in the passing game. That'd be very nice. Maybe I can ask a better question than this. I mean, it's pretty easy, right? Well, Naeem Hines, I guess, is the trickiest one in this game. Tennessee at Indianapolis. Would you start in P, right? Well, Naeem Hines, I guess, is the trickiest one in this game. Tennessee at Indianapolis. Would you start in PPR? Would you start Naeem Hines? Or... No,

he's too low end. You said you didn't like Clyde Everett Ziller this week, Jamie. Hines or Clyde? No, you're starting Clyde. This is why it's the last game we're doing. It's like you're going to start the running backs. You're starting Pittman. Oh, How about Robert Woods? Robert Woods and Traylon Burks are basically

rostered in the same amount of leagues. Who would you rather have this week and who would you rather have rest of season? Burks. Woods this week, Burks rest of season. The fact that Burks is again on the injury part, I know it's an illness, but something just feels off with this guy. It's unfortunate.

Denver's at Las Vegas. Stat of the game. Let's take a look at what's going on with Derek Carr. His air yards per pass attempt is basically exactly the same as it's been each of the last two seasons. So he's not throwing the ball shorter or deeper downfield. His completion percentage, though, has plummeted. Through three games, Derek Carr is completing 60.8% of his passes,

and that is obviously hurting his yards per attempt. And he has been around, he's been 67.3% or better four straight seasons. So if that improves, then you could have the breakout that you're hoping for from Derek Carr. Anyway, Heath, I was surprised to see you had him ninth. Jamie, I think 13th for Derek Carr, but the Broncos' defense is obviously really good.

So far, Geno Smith did have a big game against them, 20 points, but a great day for him. Davis Mills, seven points, Garoppolo, 10. Why the faith in Derek Carr? I mean, he's basically kind of been the same guy every week, two touchdowns and 250 to 300 yards. And those numbers that you talked about in terms of the efficiency, it's been so much worse this year.

I just don't buy that that's going to be the case moving forward. So I think he's going to live in that 22-point range, and there are too many quarterbacks who I had ranked ahead of him at the beginning of the season who have been awful or in awful spots this week. I'm not to the point yet to where I'm downgrading guys because they're facing the Broncos defense.

And you like Carr better than Wilson but Jamie, you have Wilson 12th and Carr 13th. I think Wilson's got a better matchup. Rocky Sin is now down for the Raiders. I don't know how much that will matter, but it's just another body that's missing from their secondary. This defense clearly has not played at a very high level so far, you know,

so if they can keep Max Crosby off of him, you know, I hope. It's obviously more of a hope because, you know, I didn't think Wilson was so bad in week one. It was obviously a lot of checkdowns. You know, the last two weeks have been really the more troubling things, but, you know, what we saw in the fourth quarter when he had the one drive where he was playing a little bit checkdowns, you know, the last two weeks have been really the more troubling things, but you know, what, what we saw in the fourth quarter, when he had the one drive where he was playing a little bit more like

himself, you know, hopefully that's something that the Broncos can build off of the 17 rushing yards. You know, I don't think he's ever going to be a 30 plus yard rushing guy again, but maybe that's something they build off of, you know, for a game and a half, he didn't really have, I'm not getting that for, for the better part of a game. He didn't have Jerry Judy in week two, you know, him back last week, hopefully shaking off the rust

for whatever was bothering him. Not on the injury report this week, so it's full complement of receivers. I just think that we're going to get a better Russell Wilson performance. I think Carr against the Broncos, it's been different defenses, but he's averaging under 18 points per game in his last six against Denver, so there's a track record

there of him not necessarily playing at a very high level. I buy this Broncos defense. So it's more about where Carr is right now than where Russell Wilson is, to be honest, based on their matchup. Right. And I've, I've brought up the Vegas numbers a lot already,

but that like at this point in the season, that's basically how I'm determining how much these defenses matter. And, and the Raiders have an, are two, two and a half points favorite implied for two and a half more points than the Broncos. And so it just hasn't moved me as much. But that could just be wrong, too.

I'm going Rodgers. I have Rodgers and Carr in our podcast league. And it doesn't really matter because my team's awful. And I'm the bye week for everybody. I'm the free space. You just beat me. But I'm going Rodgers over Carr this week. I had been Carr over Rodgers each of the

previous two weeks. Anybody support me on that? I haven't ranked that way, so I would do it. Yay! Not you, Heath, right? I have them back-to-back. They're two-tenths of a point apart. I don't really care. I have one league where I'm struggling with Carr and Lawrence.

That's a tough one for me. Okay. We talked about Wilson here, low-end starter, 12 to 14 in the rankings for everybody. Who's the best running back in this game? As a player or fantasy? Fantasy. I'll still go Javante.

Yeah, I've got Javante two spots ahead of Jacobs it's really really close the correct answer is whichever one scores a touchdown I wonder what changed last week for Jacobs and why they started using him in the passing game

especially after all the circumstances of him missing practice, missing the team flight flying on his own then all of a sudden he's catching five passes. Like, what was the difference? Is it just they're tired of Brandon Bolden and Ramiro Dulo not doing great things and they realize that Jacobs can do those things? I'm going to look something up here.

You know, remember in week one, Zach Moss caught six passes, I think, against the Rams, and we looked at it, and we looked at the routes run, we looked at the third down snaps, and we kind of determined, it wasn't like his role was the passing guy. He just happened to be on the field, and Josh Allen threw him the ball. So I'm going to check week three for the Raiders

and see the routes run and the third down snaps. I'm guessing Jacobs just caught that. I believe the third down snaps were Bolden's. Yeah, I'm guessing he just happened to catch passes on first and second down, and he hadn't been doing that. That's harder to buy for me than a guy who's on the field on third down, but I can take a look. What I like about it is the fact that they're not afraid to throw him the ball.

The idea that we've got two games with one catch and one game with five catches, so maybe our expectation can be two to three catches for Josh Jacobs. Well, it's also, to be fair, this was the setup for him last year when somebody was missing, granted different. Oh, Renfro, yeah. And Renfro's not there. Matt Collins is not Renfro, clearly.

And so, you know, that could be the reason, is that the safety blanket for Derek Carr did not play. And so let's see what happens could be the reason is that they're the safety blanket for Derek Carr did not play. And so let's see what happens if Renfro does return this week and what that means for not only for Jacobs, but also for Hollins has been arguably the best receiver the last two games. So I got an update for you. So he played only one snap on third down, but he did run a lot more routes.

He ran 17 routes in week two, and I think he ran 27 in week three. Josh Jacobs were talking about in week one, Josh Jacobs ran 17 routes. So the routes were way up, but he did not play more on third down. So I'm not sure if it was just, uh, throwing more early in the game early, like on early downs, um, or what it was, but he wasn't used on third down. That was Bolden, like he'd said. To me, that's the biggest difference in how he's going to play. He said touchdown is going to matter clearly.

I don't think he's scored one yet this year, if I'm not mistaken. Neither is Javante Williams, by the way. This really isn't about Javante. It's just really about Jacobs. I'm hoping last week was a sign of he can do that again. And obviously Renfro being out too.

Oh, that's a good point. But you guys are team Broncos money line, right? Yes. They're $2.5 million. You guys both think the Broncos are going to win? Yes. I don't know how you knew that about me, but yeah, I kind of think the Broncos are going to win? Yes. I don't know how you knew that about me, but yeah, I kind of think the Broncos are going to win.

But it should be a good game. All right, so Jamie, you said you have Javante ahead of Jacobs. Heath, did you answer that? Yeah, I've got Javante two spots ahead of Jacobs. I don't feel good about it, really, either way, but they're both high-end number two running backs for me. Are they ahead of A.J. Dillon? Yes.

Are they ahead of AJ Dillon? Yes. Are they ahead of they're not ahead of Khalil Herbert or or Jamal Williams? No. Are they ahead of James Robinson? They are for me. Javante is in PPR.

Okay. And I've got them both ahead of Najee as well. All right. So we'll call them number two running backs. Fair? Yes. All right. Wide receivers in this game. We're going to start Cortland Sutton.

We're going to start Devontae Adams. I don't know that I... Do you think Adams is going to have a good game, great game? He's probably going to get certain. You're getting the frustration. It's starting to be public about his feeling, I think, like he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing or not happy with what he's been doing

he's been what has he been the worst free agent acquisition so far or trade acquisition of the receivers that have switched teams he has a touchdown in all three games Tyreek and who? Amari Cooper

AJ Brown's been better Christian Kirk's been better in all three games. Who? Tyreek and who? Amari Cooper. A.J. Brown's been better. A.J. Brown's been better. Christian Kirk's been better. Christian Kirk has been better. I mean, it's just reality. I don't think it's going to be the case the rest of the season, but we told you that Derek Carr's not going to be as good for Devontae Adams as Aaron Rodgers is.

He's been better than MVS. He's been better than MVS. I don't know if I'd put him in the category of those guys. Well, Adams has scored in all three games, but I'm pretty sure he's going to see plenty of Patrick Sertan in this game, but nobody's going to sit Devontae Adams, and nobody's going to sit Cortland Sutton. So let's talk about Jerry Judy,

and then let's talk about the number two wide receiver for the Raiders, whether it's Renfro or whether it's Mack Hollins, who's 15% rostered. He's had two good games in a row, a great game against Tennessee, 158 yards and a touchdown. Denver allowing the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. So, Heath, would you start Jerry Judy, and would you start a second Raiders wide receiver?

I don't want to start a second Raiders wide receiver. Mack Hollins is a fine flex. I'm a little concerned about Hunter Renfro. We don't like the fact that 10 days after the concussion, he's still not even practicing. So I would expect that we're going to see another week of Matt Collins. But he's a boom bust flex. Judy is a number three wide receiver, probably a boom bust number three.

I would definitely start Judy over Holland. Okay. By the way, Courtland Sutton, fifth in the NFL in receiving yards. You have to catch a touchdown and sit number three. I would definitely start Judy over Holland. Okay. By the way, Cortland Sutton, fifth in the NFL in receiving yards. You have to catch a touchdown and sit Albert O and start Darren Waller.

But I do think the Raiders are the worst against tight ends, basically. They've allowed 75 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in every game, but we can't trust Albert O, right? Maybe it'll be Andrew Beck.

Yeah. The Broncos won't trust Albert O. Right. Broncos D most Alberto. Right. Broncos DST is top five. Really haven't been as good as I thought, but they were great last week against San Francisco. Well, they're doing a great job in terms of points allowed. You know, it's all depending on your scoring.

True. Yeah, it's very hard to tell you, oh, they've scored this many points as a DST because the leagues are just so different. All right, that's going to do it for the Raiders and the Broncos, which brings us to... It's the game of the week, yeah.

The Bills visiting the Ravens. Game of the week, yeah. I think it's this one. I think it's this one. I think it's this one. Woo! Get the Game of the Week. All right, Buffaloes of Baltimore. Heath, what do you think about the Game of the Week song?

It's something. You know what it reminds me of? Remember Real Men of Genius, those commercials? Uh-huh. Yes, exactly. Very much. Mr. Vending Machine Repairman. That's kind of what it sounds like to me.

All right. Buffalo, Baltimore. Stat of the game. The bills are allowing 2.66 yards per carry to running backs. They've been a suffocating run defense. Do we have to sit J.K. been a suffocating run defense. Do we have to sit J.K. Dobbins again? Yeah. Yes.

Boo. Yeah, I agree, but it stinks. Okay, I actually think, guys, this is a pretty easy game. Jamie, lay it out. Lay it out for me from a fantasy standpoint. Well, that Josh Allen guy's pretty good. You're starting him. You're starting Stephon Diggs. You're starting Gabe Davis as at least a number two receiver in non-PPR,

borderline number two receiver in full PPR or half PPR. And Isaiah McKenzie is in that Matt Collins flex range, better in PPR than non-PPR. I would avoid Dawson Knox if you can just because the most troubling thing for me with Knox was 63 pass attempts last week for Josh Allen. He only had four targets. So still not being used like we would hope. And Singletary is a flex.

For the Ravens, it's Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews, and good luck with the rest. I just really don't want to spend that much time. We expect a ton of points. That's the thing, right? I mean, this should be a bonanza, but Bateman's going to be the tricky one. So we already said you got to start Davis, you're starting Diggs and sitting Dobbins. How about before we get to Bateman, Devin Singletary,

Heath, after the nice performance in the passing game last week, you have any interest in going back to Devin Singletary that nobody ever starts Devin Singletary, it seems. No, I can't think of any reason why Josh Allen would want to drop the ball off to a running back against this secondary. He can just go back four steps and throw it as far as he can and watch one of his players run underneath it.

Singletary's, I would start him over if Cam Akers and Travis Etienne and J.K. Dobbins, there's some people that might need to. You'd start him over Akers. He'sienne and J.K. Dobbins, there's some people that might need to. You'd start over Akers. He's my favorite running back in this game. Not feeling the Rams, huh?

Not feeling the Rams at all. Okay. I don't know if this matters to you, but the Ravens have been a really good matchup for running backs. They've given up five yards per carry to running backs. They've given up 28 or more receiving yards to four running backs in three games.

Carter, Brees Hall, Raheem Mostert, and Ramondre Stevenson. I don't know. He's tough to trust. Okay, I won't expand too much. Finally, let's just sum it up. Let's just do some Rashad Bateman ors. How about Rashad Bateman or Rashad Penny facing Detroit? Penny. Definitely Penny and non and half.

I'll make it easy and just say Penny. All right. How about Rashad Bateman or Juju Smith-Schuster at Tampa Bay? Juju. I've got Bateman one spot higher. Bateman or Brandon Ayuk against the Rams? Bateman. Ayuk.

Curtis Samuel or Bateman? Samuel. Samuel. Not feeling it for Bateman. All right. Honestly, I mean, can we move on to the next game? We good with that? Yep.

All right. Didn't want to short you. Set the DSTs. Actually, Heath has the Bills DST eighth. You good with that? Yep. All right. Didn't want to shortchase. Set the DSTs. Actually, Heath has the Bills' DST eighth. You sticking with that? I'm not going to add somebody else, and I'm not going to drop the Bills. Okay.

Okay. We'll be right back. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, I would love to play the Game of the Week music again. No, actually, I don't really have that much faith in the Jaguars this week. But let's go Jaguars.

Rooting for you. I'm an honorary Jaguars fan this year. We'll be right back to talk Jaguars and Eagles and five other games after that on Fantasy Football today. Sorry, Duvall. Okay, we're back here

on Fantasy Football today as I have jinxed the Jacksonville Jaguars. I apologize. So this game is maybe going to come down to big plays. You know, I don't know how you guys feel about this.

I'm obsessed with big plays. And as much as I love the Jaguars offensive, actually, I was a little discouraged to see this statistic. They are one of the worst at creating big plays in the passing game.

The Jaguars have only six completions of 20 plus yards. That is the fourth fewest in the NFL. 20-plus yard completions. The only teams that have fewer are the Giants, the Bears, looking forward to that game, and the Browns. They're getting a lot of big plays in the run game, but they are not doing it in the pass game,

so it makes me wonder how sustainable it is. Do they need more? And they have four pass plays of 25 or more yards, and Christian Kirk has all of them. Now they're facing a team that never gives up, rarely gives up big plays. So, Jamie, I asked you earlier, are you trusting any Jaguars? And you said

yes to James Robinson and Christian Kirk. Kirk, you know, he's in the slot a lot. He moves around. But Robinson, I mean, I don't know. Talk to me about James Robinson, where you have him ranked and how much faith you have in him. Uh, he's in the teens around 16. Um, I mean, look, he's been fantastic, you know, and it's, some of it is a little fluky, you know,

with how he breaks the big run. Um, and, and, you know, where he's, he's, uh, a little touchdown dependent, but I mean, it's every week, you know, so it's, uh, it's hard to get away from somebody who's getting the work that he's getting in the production that he's getting. So if you have Herbert and Jamal Williams, if you're able to pick up those guys or have them on your roster, sure. You can start them over, over Robinson, but you gotta be in a pretty good situation to bench this guy at this point. And then for Kirk, it's, uh, again, I think there's a situation where they're chasing points. Uh, garbage time might matter here. I thought that would be the case for the commanders last week.

That wasn't. They were just completely inept. But this is a better offense with the way that they're operating right now, and I think Trevor Lawrence deserves some credit. So does Christian Kirk. One thing that Lawrence is doing, Heath, he's getting rid of the ball very quickly. Fifth lowest time to throw among quarterbacks

with 20 or more pass attempts. And that's not necessarily a reflection of the offensive line. It's a deceiving stat. Some guys, the scrambling quarterbacks are always the highest on that because they take a long time to throw the ball, but I think the Jaguars are just getting the ball out of their hands quickly, deliberately. I don't know how you think that plays up against this Eagles defense here.

Probably a little bit different than Carson Wentz, who got sacked I think nine times last week. What do you think about Lawrence? Yeah, it's the exact opposite. It's exactly what you want against this Eagles defense because they don't give up big plays, but they will give you the stuff underneath. So he should be able to get,

should be plenty of time to get the ball to Christian Kirk underneath or Travis Etienne in the flats or Evan Ingram running five yards and falling down. Okay. So Evan Ingram, Heath, on that subject, any interest? I would rather not, but I do think that he's in that Njoku group. That if I had him, I might not waste a waiver claim to go get somebody else. I might just start him again. He's a high-end number two tight end. Would you rather have, would you start Njoku or Ingram this week?

I would start Njoku. But again, I'm not sure I'd use a waiver slot to make that change. Zay Jones or Rashad Bateman? Bateman. Zay Jones or Mac Hollins if Renfro's out? Jones. I've got Hollins if Renfro's out. Don't. I've got Hollins higher.

I want to say something real quick here before I forget, because someone in our chat, Sharon Cook, said, no power here, phone dying, got to go sit in car. I really should have said something earlier, but our thoughts with everybody in Florida affected by the hurricane. Yeah. Happy to hear that all the South Florida guys, which is

dave jamie he's everybody at cbs and my family and all a lot of people i know unaffected but obviously up in in the central further north and in central florida and tampa i know the west coast really but yeah the west coast um i know brutal and sorry to hear it and hope everybody's doing okay and we're thinking of you. Jalen Hurts must start. Miles Sanders. I thought you guys might be too low on Miles Sanders. You got him as a low-end number two running back. A little scared off after last week.

Keith, what happened? I mean, he's just been everything that we were concerned about with Miles Sanders, right? Like, yes, he's going to average five and a half yards per carry and the weeks that he gets... If he happens to score another touchdown, I guess it'll be fine. He's got

13 receiving yards on the season. He's got one touchdown. It's just he is the trap back right now. And look at what these, these, uh,

look what the Jaguars have done. Yeah. In terms of rushing yards allowed. I'm too high on him. 3.6. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a pretty impressive group.

I mean, you know, when you talk about Eckler and Jonathan Taylor and Antonio Gibson without, you know, any competition, you know, now Eckler and Gibson made a lot of plays in the passing game, but that's not Sanders' game.

So if he doesn't score, you're in trouble. This run defense has been legit. He has still not played 60% of the snaps in a game this year. You know, Miles Sanders leads Eagles running backs in routes run by a pretty big chunk, and James Robinson actually leads Jaguars running backs and routes run very close though with travis ctn but it's an interesting stat you know routes run certainly does not correlate to catches with running backs but sanders has finally paid off for

devon singletary he let him routes run for a year and a half and then he had an 11-plus game uh and uh all right so you guys have him as like a low end number two would you start miles you start james robinson James Robinson over Miles Sanders? Oh, yeah. Easily, yeah. Zeke or Miles, who's the, Zeke or a running back in this game? Rank them. Robinson, Zeke, Sanders.

Robinson, Zeke, Pollard, Sanders. Oh. I'm going to, Robinson, Pollard, Zeke, Sanders. Oh, wow. I can't wait to talk about that game tomorrow. Washington and Dallas. Philadelphia wide receivers, A.J. Brown. We're going to start.

By the way, here are the green zone targets inside the 10 yard line. Green zone targets for Eagles for the Eagles. A.J. Brown has five. Devante Smith has one and nobody else has any. Dallas Goddard has zero green zone targets is all A.J. Brown has five. Devontae Smith has one. And nobody else has any. Dallas Goddard has zero green zone targets. It's all A.J. Brown. Start him. Devontae Smith.

You guys, as of yesterday, disagreed on him. Jamie had him 17th. Heath had him 30th. Is that still accurate? He's like 27, 28. Yes. We do still disagree on him a little bit fight davante smith fight go i don't know what's to argue against him at this point in the last two weeks i mean he's

just fantastic with maybe the best quarterback in football today yeah i mean it's like the 12 target game was awesome the seven target game doesn't get me into the top 20 range. So he's got, he's got one game for me that would show that he's a top 20 wide receiver. I think Dallas Goddard is going to get more than four targets this week. But he's, he's in that range from 20 to 30. Dallas Goddard did leave week three with an injury.

It's not serious one. He, his snaps were way down, 64%. He'd been at 84% or more each of the first two games. So that was why Goddard had only four targets last week. However, he has four, six, and four targets in three games, Dallas Goddard. As far as Devontae Smith goes,

like I said, not getting targeted in the end zone or near the end zone. Jacksonville's been a pretty good matchup, I guess, 22nd against wide receivers, but they did well against McLaurin, 58 yards and a touchdown. They did well against Mike Williams, 15 yards and a touchdown.

Um, yeah. All right. So Jamie's likes Devante Smith as a number two. He likes him as a number three and Dallas Goddard. You're going to start Dallas. Goddard is crushing all tight ends in yards per catch and yards per target.

He just hasn't scored yet. Did last year, too. Yeah, he's really talented. Eagles DST is top five. I guess that's where I look at that, and you guys have the Eagles ranked pretty high, and Eagles DST top five, and then I say, how is

Jacksonville going to be good? I mean, it could be a 250-2-2 game for Lawrence. All right, let's go Jags. Jets and Steelers. Okay. Another part of the projection question I have for you, Heath, is that the Jets have run the second most plays in the NFL.

Five plays behind Cincinnati. They're tied with Arizona. Joe Flacco's thrown more passes than anyone in the NFL. Do you think their run-pass balance changes a lot with Zach Wilson? Because it did last year. They threw the ball a lot more when it was the other guys compared to Wilson. Well, first on the first point, last year they threw the ball a lot more when it was the other guys compared to wilson well first on the first point um i i've only just the past two weeks started to adjust total plays per game

i think i've got the jets two plays higher than i had them at the beginning of the year i have the panthers two plays lower per game so i've not made huge adjustments there and i'd expect those to to mostly stabilize i think they will be one of the most pass-heavy teams in the NFL. The Jets. I may have Zach Wilson projected for more pass attempts this week than anybody else. Than anyone else in the NFL?

Yeah. Wow. He averaged 190 passing yards per game last year, excluding the game he left with an injury. So, yikes. It's just, it's so tough. And you say this all the time about certain guys.

Just kind of throw out what they did as a rookie. Yeah. We don't hold rookie quarterback production against them. Right. But it's his first game of the year. And I don't know. I mean, how many yards do you have him projected for? Like 260.

Okay. Jamie, let's stick with the passing game here. Garrett Wilson or Rashad Bateman? Wilson. Yeah. And we got to sit Elijah Moore? I would until he shows you something. It's tough to trust at this point

knowing that Garrett Wilson has been better and Corey Davis has been better. And you still have Tyler Conklin and you still have the running backs. And so he said it. You know, imagine if there was, and this is where the hope would be is where Zach Wilson gets to,

but imagine if this was like an above average quarterback that we knew. You know, not Joe Flacco and not an experienced guy. Like, let's just say this was Derek Carr on this team or, you know, Russell Wilson. Let's say he had gone to the Jets. Like imagine just somebody competent that we we've seen do it and not pass his prime that, or maybe Wilson's probably back exam.

He might be past prime, but you know what I mean? So somebody that we trust in this situation and it would be a lot of fun. Hopefully Zach Wilson becomes that guy, like he said, second-year quarterback and takes advantage of this opportunity. There's so many great players on this team who are potentially great players. It'd be nice to see them all sort of unleashed.

Yeah, but they don't have their starting tackles. But they do have a good matchup because the Steelers' defense has been so bad without TJY. They've already allowed four wide receivers in three games to get 95 or more yards. Jamar Chase, Nelson Aguilar, Jacoby Myers, and Amari Cooper. So I guess you guys still have a decent amount of hope

for Garrett Wilson. Dave is lower on Garrett Wilson. Elijah Moore, like I said, you got to sit. Let's talk about the Jets running backs here. Michael Carter or Brees Hall? Heath, who do you have ranked higher? I've got Hall one spot higher. I'm forcing that just a little bit because in the projections,

I've actually got Carter a couple spots higher, but they are in high-end flex, borderline number two range. Jamie, I think you're lower onend flex borderline number two range. Jamie, I think you're lower on Carter. You have him around 40. Hall, you have 20. Oh, okay. That's a big difference for you. You actually have Hall as a starter this week, Jamie. Yeah, I think

last week was a change in the guard. At some point, they're going to have to start to feed the kid a little bit more. I think this is the week to do it. Is he older than Michael Carter? Probably. Who's older than Michael Carter? Brees Hall.

I don't think so. Why? I don't know. I don't know why I thought that. Well, Jamie said feed the kid. It's like, aren't they both so young? They're both young, yes. You look up Brees Hall.

I'll look up Michael Carter. Brees Hall is 21 years old. No, he's not even close. Michael Carter is probably older. Not even close to older than Michael Carter. I don't know. They're terrible. Terrible.

We have some news when this game is done. Okay. All right, let's go. All right, so Brees Hall, interesting to have him in the 20s for Jamie, 20th for Jamie, and Brees Hall is 26th for Heath. Tyler Conklin.

Man, this is actually a tricky game for fantasy. A lot of tough calls on this one. Tyler Conklin, you guys have higher in full PPR than non-PPR, but he's basically a starter in your rankings. And Heath, Tyler Conklin is the head of David Njoku, and who was the other guy we talked about?

Evan Ingram? Evan Ingram, yeah. I've got he ahead of David Njoku? And who was the other guy we talked about in the joke? Evan Ingram? Evan Ingram, yeah. I've got him ahead of both right now. Again, I think it's close enough, especially in non-PPR. If you wanted to start Njoku, I wouldn't care that much. But I am more concerned about the running back targets disappearing than I am the tight end targets disappearing with Zach Wilson under center. Conklin's actually second on the team in target rate, ahead of Elijah Moore.

So I'm going to start him this week. He is the number three tight end in fantasy, people. Tyler Conklin, seven to nine targets in each game. And the Steelers have struggled here. They gave up 46 yards to Hayden Hurst, which is kind of a lot, and 89 yards and a touchdown in a joke. Are we going to sit Trubisky?

I'm sure everyone's going to start Najee Harris, but you can start Khalil Herbert and Jamal Williams ahead of Najee Harris. Pittsburgh wide receivers. What do you think about Deontay Johnson this weekend? Any interest, Jamie, in Pickens or Claypool? I would like to roster Pickens. I don't know what to do with Claypool in terms of the expectations because he's still playing a ton, but he's just not producing a ton anymore.

And so he was on the drop list on Tuesday. I'm sure you guys mentioned that on the Waver Wire show. But, I mean, Deontay Johnson is just starting. He's a number three receiver in non-PPR. He's a number two receiver in PPR. He just has to find the end zone at some point. This receiver group is just not getting in the end zone, and that's probably a byproduct of Trubisky.

So this could be a game, if they're trailing, maybe we see Kenny Pickett. I'd keep an eye on that. No, I think this is just a random thought I just had, and I know it's a Thursday show, so we don't have time for this, but I just updated my Dynasty trade chart yesterday. It's really tough to rank the receivers in this game in Dynasty. Yeah, I think. Is it? yesterday. It's really tough to rank the receivers in this game in Dynasty. Yeah.

I'm going to guess Garrett Wilson would fetch the most right now. Garrett Wilson is number one. I would say Wilson. Let me see if I guess it. Wilson one, Deontay two, Elijah three. No, Pickens three. Yeah, Pickens three is my guess.

Elijah four. No, actually, this is Heath's rankings. Pickens is 2 and Deontay is 3, if not 4. No, I think he still has Deontay 2. I'll go Wilson 1, Deontay 2, Pickens 3, Elijah 4, Claypool 5. I've got Wilson, Elijah, Deontay, Pickens, Claypool. Wow. Wow.

Okay. The Jets are going to have a new quarterback next year. They're going to have Bryce Young next year. They might bail on him next year. What's that? You think they'll bail on him that quickly? If they have one of the top picks and can get a stud quarterback, they will not even think twice.

They will bail on him that quickly. Because in this scenario, they have one of the top picks, they will not even think twice. They will bail on him that quickly. Because in this scenario, they have one of the top picks and that means he was bad. They just have to look across the facility at what happens if you hold on to a guy you drafted too early for too long. Yeah, I agree.

Although I can't say the Giants passed up a ton of great... I mean, they passed up Josh Allen, but several teams did. They didn't have the number one or number two pick. Well, they did. They took Barkley. All one or number two pick. Well, they did. They took Barkley. All right, what am I talking about? Pat Friermuth.

That was after one year. I don't think that was... Yeah, whatever. Pat Friermuth. You guys have him as a start coming off a bad game. I just want to say I got my eyes on the Jets against tight ends. They've been really good so far. Andrews, 52 yards.

Najoku, 32 yards. Hayden Hurst was dreadful. One for seven on two targets. But so what does that mean for Friar Muth, Jamie? You know, the first two weeks of the season were solid for him. And, you know, he did it against

at the time, the second week of Patriots defense that we had thought was going to be great against that end. That might not be the case anymore. But I just think that, you know, similar to what he said about the Bills,

like I don't know if I'm going to make a roster move to drop Pat Fryer move yet to pick up a second tight end. You know, so while I like Najoko this week and Robert Tunyon may have a good opportunity, I think Fryer move is still worth trusting one more time. So we'll see how this Jets defense operates. The Hayden Hurst one is not really the one that bothers me. It's really the first two games of what they did because were they holding back somebody

like Njoku based on what we saw last week? I want to see what Firemuth does. All right. Pittsburgh's Heath, by the way, is Firemuth very high. Heath likes him a lot. Pitt DST is top 10 for both of you guys. They're 86% rostered.

They have been pretty terrible without TJ Watt. Keep that in mind. But obviously a good matchup. All right, chart. We got four games. Let's do four games in 10 to 12 minutes. I think we can do it. Oh, go ahead.

First off, Ian Rappaport shared Michael Pierce's Instagram account. And apparently he's going to have surgery on his bicep. Okay. And then in London, no Jameis Winston again, no Michael Thomas again. Jarvis Landry did return. So it's starting to look like there's a chance Andy Dalton could be the starting quarterback

for the Saints this week. And who knows if that leads to a potential changing of the guard. So while we were talking, I picked up Andy Dalton in the two Superflex leagues that he was available. Not a bad idea to go speculate on if you have a roster spot to play with. Chargers are at Houston. This could be a big game for the running backs. A lead running back has averaged 5.7 or more yards per carry

in all three games against the Chargers. That's Josh Jacobs, Clyde Edwards-Elair, and James Robinson. But they haven't really had a lot of carries, except the Jaguars, guys. So that's, I think, our question for Damian Pierce is how many carries is he going to get? But it looks like a great matchup. Meanwhile, I think I have this off the top of my head, but dating back to last year,

six running backs in the last nine games against Houston have scored 25 or more PPR fantasy points, something like that. I mean, they're just a golden matchup. So hopefully this is a bounce-back week for Austin Eckler. Justin Herbert, you guys have sixth overall. I'm going to go quickly here. Justin Herbert, you guys have

sixth. Eckler, you start. Heath, give me your breakdown of the passing game, the wide receivers and Gerald Everett for the Chargers. Yeah, you're starting Keenan Allen as long as he plays. Mike Williams is more of a number three wide receiver, but I'm probably starting him. I, which would be good for Gerald Everett. So he's still a top 12 guy.

I would start him over all the streamers this week. Jamie, you're a little lower. The one thing I'm concerned about with Everett is not just the Allen return, is what does their blocking schemes change, their concepts change without Slater there? And now, obviously, Everett is going to be involved in that in some way, shape, or form. So how much does he spend more time maybe chipping or blocking or whatever

to help out without Slater there at the left tackle spot? And, okay, Mike Williams as a number three receiver, I thought was kind of interesting. He's almost a number two receiver, but 26th for you, and I think that's standard scoring. Mike Williams is 29th for Jamie in PPR and 32nd for you in full PPR, Heath. All right.

I like 30 receivers this week, though, so he's still pretty much a must-start guy. I see you have both Michael Thomas and Chris Olave, Jamie, ahead of Mike Williams. Yeah, that certainly might change with Thomas right now. But Olave's been just ridiculously awesome. Now, I'm curious what's going to happen. We'll talk about this, I guess, tomorrow.

But what's going to happen with Andy Dalton stepping in for Jameis? Because I think Jameis is better for Olave than Andy Dalton is. But if there's no Michael Thomas and a less than a hundred percent Jarvis Landry, a lot of it could just be a monster. Yeah. There's a, that's a lot of weight moving parts there,

but I do think if Andy Dalton was confirmed as the starter, I would have a lobby behind Mike Williams. If Thomas is out, that's the part I don't know about. Yeah. I'm with, I'm with you. If,

if, if Thomas is in, if Thomas is out, then I'd probably go a lot of it. I'm with, I'm with you. If, if, if Thomas is in, if Thomas is out, then I'd probably go a lot of me 13 targets each week is, is gotta be some byproduct of him in the offense, not just James. Okay. So Brandon cooks, you guys have a head of Mike Williams. I guess what I'm trying to say is Mike Williams being that low tells me that you do have some genuine concerns about Mike Williams. Is that accurate? There's a lot of good receivers this week. It's funny because like you said, the quarterback play could be bad, but

you're getting Keenan Allen back. You have some guys in some good matchups. To use Heath's phrase, there's a lot of moving parts at that position. I have Mike Williams in a couple leagues. I'm not benching him. It's just a matter of what you have on your roster. On the Texas side. because I'm not benching him. So it's just a matter of what you have on your roster. Okay.

On the Texans side. The thing that sucks about the Chargers right now, and this could lead to maybe Lombardi losing his job unless they correct it, they are not throwing down the field. They are not challenging down the field. Now, again, Herbert's injury is probably part of it for last week, but the big plays have been gone. Like, where are they?

Yeah, that's a good point. All right, Davis Mills is a sit. probably part of it for last week, but the big plays have been gone. Like, where are they? No, it's a good point. All right. Davis mills is a sit. Damian Pierce is top 20 and non PPR top 25 and full PPR. Uh, Damian Pierce or Brees hall. Oh,

back to back for Heath Pierce. Uh, hall and PPR. Jamie has Paul to our hall, two spots ahead, Damian Pierce. Hall and PPR. Jamie has Hall two spots ahead. Damian Pierce or Antonio Gibson at Dallas? Pierce. Pierce.

I'm a little concerned about Gibson. I am very concerned about Gibson. All right, Brandon Cooks is a start. You guys have him around 20th overall, and that's it for this game. Chargers DST is actually not. Finish with this game. Chargers DST is actually not. Finish with this guy. Chargers DST is not

in the top 12 for you guys. So, okay. Don't start him. Cleveland at Atlanta. Stat of the game. Marcus Mariota has thrown four passes inside the 10-yard line. That's not good. But so has Tom Brady. So, you know, not getting a lot of passing

touchdowns for Marcus Mariota. Okay, the Cleveland running backs. Chubb is a start. Heath, Kareem Hunt. Yeah, he's a high-end flex. I would start the Cowboys ahead of him. I would start the Jets ahead of him. I'd start Damian Pierce ahead of him,

but I'd rather start Kareem Hunt than any Bills or Patriots or Antonio Gibson or Cam Akers or J.K. Dobbins. Miles Sanders or Kareem Hunt? Sanders. Okay. And Amari Cooper,

back-to-back 100-yard games, the Falcons have given up 15 or more PPR fantasy points to six wide receivers in three games. So I'm sure you're going to start Amari Cooper. And then David Njoku. Would you start David Njoku or Tyler Conklin? I think I asked you that earlier. Sorry. Conklin for me.

Njoku. David Njoku or TJ Hawkinson? Hawkinson. Njoku. Oh, interesting. Jamie's high on Njoku. Now, one of these is Taysom Hill scoring on the ground, so take that into account.

But they've given a tight end to score 12 or more PBR points in three straight games, So two games in a row. No, I mean, they have been bad, even if you remove that. Higby had seven for 71. Will Disley had 34 yards and a touchdown. Colby Parkinson had two catches for 44 yards. So the Falcons have struggled against tight ends.

That's an Asian stat for you. Yeah, baby. Marcus Mariota or Jameis Winston if he plays? Mariota. Mariota. Mariota or Jameis Winston if he plays? Mariota. Mariota. Mariota or Carson Wentz? Mariota. You guys have Mariota ahead of Stafford.

Yeah. He's been better, right? Maybe. 17 to 20 points in all three games. Stafford was single digits, 24 single digits. maybe 17 to nine to 20 points in all three games. Who's that? It was a single digits, 24 single digits.

Yeah. Yeah. Who's playing defense for the rounds this week? Yeah. Oh, what's your question? Yeah. You've got to mention that one with your defense.

Oh, miles Garrett. Yeah. Yeah. And clowny are both going to be questionable. Yep. It's a good point. Sorry about that.

How do you feel about Cordero Patterson this week? You like him better than, let's say, Damian Pierce? Yep. Yeah. Pretty much a must-start this week, Cordero Patterson? Yeah. It's hard to call a guy a must-start when Jamal Williams and Khalil Herbert are ranked ahead of them,

but he is pretty much a must-start, yes. James Robinson or Cordero? Cordero. I probably need to revisit that right now. I have Robinson higher, but they're... By the way, there was an NFL Films, or I think it was NFL Films feature with Cordero Patterson that just came out.

Carissa Thompson is interviewing him, and I think the first question she asked him was how often do people mispronounce your name? He's like, all the time. She's like, how do you pronounce it? He's Cordaro. So Dave and I had a nice little debate about that on the show. It is Cordaro Patterson.

Drake London is a top 24 wide receiver. You're going to just keep starting him. Do you think he's going to be shadowed by Denzel Ward as Deontay Johnson was last week? Does that concern you at all, Jamie Eisenberg? No, it doesn't concern me. Okay.

Kyle Pitts is top five in both formats. Falcons offense has actually been pretty good so far this year. We'll see what they can do against the Browns. This could be a good game. They have a higher implied total, I think, than the Chiefs or the Buccaneers. Definitely than Kyler Murray's Arizona Cardinals.

It's a weird week. Okay, New England's at Green Bay. Hopefully a legit stat of the game. I don't even sure if I even have the number right, but in Brian Hoyer's last seven starts, which spans a long ways, a running back has had four or five or more. I couldn't remember it was four or five.

I think it was actually five. Yeah, I know. Five or more targets in every game, six or more targets in five of seven games. The Acer stat here is that Brian Hoyer has thrown to his running backs in his most recent starts, but they haven't really been all that recent here.

So, yeah, I think it's easy to say, correct me if I'm wrong, sit the passing game for New England. What about the running backs? Stevenson's a flex. They got to do something, right? Are they going to get shut out? If they're going to do anything, it's going to be the running backs, I would think. I mean, it's kind of the M.O., I think, they got to do something, right? Are they going to get shut out? If they're going to do anything, it's going to be the running backs, I would think.

I mean, it's kind of the MO, I think, for the majority of the season for them, right? If they're scoring, it's probably because Harris is going to find the end zone, which he's done in each of the last two games. You know, the... Mack Jones was terrible in that game last week, and they were still competitive offensively.

Stevenson was a big part of that. Okay, so Stevenson or a Jets running back? Hall, Stevenson, Carter, Harris. Hall, Carter, Stevenson, Harris. Stevenson or

Travis Etienne? Stevenson. Stevenson. Stevenson. Damian Harris or Travis ETN? Harris. Harris and non-PPR, ETN and PPR. Oh, go ahead. Both the Jets and the Patriots situations,

I feel like there's a 40% chance it could just go back to the way it was two weeks ago. It was just one game. I have a hard time just believing it's definitely Stevenson over Harris. I've got them pretty close still. How about Rashad Bateman? Playing time has been better for Stevenson in the last two weeks. Ramondre Stevenson, Patriots running back, or Rashad Bateman?

Stevenson. Oh, interesting. Bateman and PPR, Stevenson and none. All right, Aaron Rodgers is in your top 10. The Patriots have been really not great against quarterbacks. I mean, Tua only scored 16 points, but he had a 104.4 passer rating, and Lamar Jackson destroyed them. So you guys have Rodgers in your top 10, all right?

He is throwing shorter than any other quarterback. He has the lowest air yards per pass attempt and the lowest yards per completion in the NFL. So please throw the ball downfield. Start Aaron Jones, and then A.J. Dillon is a number two running back for you guys. He's only averaging 3.5 yards per carry. He has a long of 14 yards. He just hasn't been very good yet. Hopefully

we can get A.J. Dillon going, but this is actually a very good run defense so far. So I was, I guess, I don't know, maybe a little surprised. Like, you have him ahead of Jeff Wilson against the Rams. Is that right? That's not an easy matchup. No, it's not.

I've got Wilson ahead of Dillon. Okay of dylan okay aj dylan or cowboys running back dylan uh zeke dylan paul who's your favorite packers wide receiver but both are outside the top 36 right yeah yeah all right so this is not this is the costanza not a bonanza robert tunyon heath you have him actually uh right around 12th jamie 15th uh 14th 14th okay tunyon yeah he's in that like it's i i know this doesn't this isn't helpful to anyone, but the tight ends from like 10 through 17, it's really hard to distinguish between them in any way that's going to be helpful. No, that's fair.

It's a conundrum of tight ends every week, every year. I would rather probably just keep starting the same guy and catch his touchdown weeks as I try to guess which weeks will be which. That's what I'm doing with Dawson Knox. He's not in that group. I'm not sure I'm dropping him. I mean, I feel like eventually he's going to score.

Well, why? Because the Bills are just going to throw a lot more touchdowns than the Browns, for example. I would drop him for David Njoku in full PPR, but there are some tight ends. The Bills are just going to score so many more touchdowns and Knox will eventually be part of that. What sample size are you going to give up on

though? I pretty much have given up on him. I don't believe in very many tight ends. I'm not sure I'd drop him for Robert Tunyon. Tunyon's been pretty bad. I mean, has he been better than Dawson Knox? They had like the same season basically.

He was lab, but he wasn't the week before that. Well, he's also working his way back from an ACL tear. You know, so. Yeah. Green Bay's DST is number one.

Start them. Tennessee's at Indianapolis. Stat of the game, the Titans allow 6.1 yards per carry. Worst in the NFL to running backs. The Colts allow 2.5 yards per carry to running in the NFL to running backs. The Colts allow 2.5

yards per carry to running backs, best in the NFL. You're going to start the running backs, but it's a much easier matchup for Taylor than it is for Henry. Which quarterback do you like better in this game, Ryan Tannehill or Matt Ryan? Ryan. Yes.

I don't think either one of these quarterbacks are in my top 24. Is there anything to say in this game other than start the running backs and Michael Pittman? No. Pick up Traylon Burks if somebody dropped him. Yes, he's a good staff. Hines is a fine flex. Yeah, he's a good staff. Who's the best?

Hines is a fine flex. Yeah, who's the best non-those guys flex? Non-those guys. Hines. Okay. And Jelani Woods, any interest? Tight end premium. Would you start a DST?

The Colts, sure. Have a wonderful Thursday, everybody. We'll talk to you at 2 o'clock Eastern for Starter Sit. Jamie, are you on that? I guess so. Oh, it's the Jamie appearance of the week. Yeah. All right, great.

Jamie's going to be on. I think Jamie's going to be on that. 2 p.m. Eastern, youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today, answering your Starter Sit questions. For Jamie and Heath, I'm Adam. Have a great day, everybody. Talk to you soon. Bye.