Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Quinshon Judkins, Drake Maye, PIT RBs and Our Ideal Thanksgiving Meal (11/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Players we love (3:45) and players to avoid (6:55) for Week 13! Jamey and Heath tell you why they love a number of players in the Giants-Patriots game and why they will try to avoid D'Andre Swift, Aaron Jones and others ... News and notes (13:10) and One Question for Each Game (18:30)! Do we trust Jaxson Dart? How should we approach the Steelers running backs? Start or Sit Nico Collins? Quinshon Judkins? Omarion Hampton if he pays? ... Start or Sit for Giants-Patriots (28:15), Bills-Steelers (36:50), Raiders-Chargers (44:00), Texans-Colts (54:50), Jaguars-Titans (1:01:00) and 49ers-Browns (1:09:05) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. An awesome day, an awesome holiday. Awesome food. Ham's better than turkey. and we welcome you to fantasy football today presented by BetMGM, Make It Legendary. Guys, look at how festive I am.

I've got the orange shirt on. I've got my little, I've got my turkey hat from kindergarten. I am expecting a very festive YouTube chat tonight. I think we should have one of the best chats of the year. Adam, you probably don't know this. But Wednesday night is a bit of a, Thanksgiving Eve is a bit of a national holiday for imbibing with your friends.

Yeah, so I've heard. The tradition is everybody comes home early in the week. You hang out with your friends on Wednesday night. Everybody's coming in here to hang out with us. The chat's going to be awesome. All right. Pour one out. Let's go.

How many likes we need? How many likes? Oh, I don't even look at that. I should start looking at that. Fantasy football today presented by BetMGM, make it legendary. First, I have to figure out how many people are watching, and then I'll tell you how many likes we need. But today on the show, we have six games to talk about.

We are going to preview Giants Patriots, Game of the Week, Buffalo at Pittsburgh, Raiders, Chargers, Houston at Indianapolis, Jacksonville at Tennessee, as Cam Ward looks to build on his best game of his young career, and San Francisco at Cleveland, as Brock Purdy looks to build on one of the worst games of his still young career. Anyway, schedule note, the Thanksgiving. game, the early game, usually 12.30, it's at 1 o'clock on Thursday for the first time in 43 years. They've changed that. I know we're not airing our show live tomorrow, but we do have

a live pregame show on CBS Sports HQ from 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern. Who's on that? I will be on with Pete Priscoe and Legeret Doosable. Okay. Well, I wasn't invited. Players we love for Fantasy Week 13. R.J. Harvey's our start of the week. He's at Wau. Washington, Jacoby Preset at Tampa Bay. Stefan Diggs, Monday night against the Giants. Those are Jamie's three. Harvey, Preset, and Diggs. Yeah, Harvey hopefully will perform better with the workload that he had in week 11

against a much easier opponent. That was Kansas City. He did not do great with 11 carries for 30 yards and three catches for 20 yards on three targets, but played 61% of the snaps. I'm expecting that will be the same. And taking on a Washington defense that is number five, and most fantasy points allowed to oppose me. running backs, seven of the last eight running backs that they faced have scored at least 13

fantasy points. In seven of the last games, a running back has scored at least 13 fantasy points or more against Washington. So I'm hopeful that he'll be in that range, which puts him as a number two running back. He's not on the same page there, have him at number 15, sports line number 16. I'm sure Dave, when he sees our rankings, will say, oh, no, I need to adjust that. In the case of Jacoby Brissette, he may get a gift, and Marvin Harrison may play. He returned to practice on Wednesday.

So with what Bressett has done for the last six games, 20 or more fantasy points taken out of Tampa Bay defense that has not been very good against opposing quarterbacks, specifically the last two that they face with Matthew Stafford and Josh Allen. I think this is a great opportunity for Bresset to stay above 20 fantasy points and hopefully be a top 10 fantasy quarterback. In the case of Stefan Diggs, he was miserable last week, but this is a much easier opponent for him.

Cincinnati actually does a pretty good job against number one wide receivers. But looking at this matchup against the Giants, They're terrible, and prior to last week, he had scored a touchdown or got 100 yards receiving in four games in a row. I think he gets back on track. He's a prime time player, playing in prime time. I don't trust this Giants defense at all. So I think Diggs has a significant enough bounceback game that is a solid number two fantasy wide receiver. All right, Heath.

So we're going to stay in that Giants Patriots game. I guess we're expecting a lot of points. Jamie loves Stefan Diggs. You love Travion Henderson and Wondell Robinson and also Ashton Jentie at the Chargers. Yeah, not a super high over under in that game, but 27 points implied total for the Patriots. And I guess my only concern about Stefan Diggs would be that Trayvion Henderson has so much success that they don't score a lot of points through the passing game. This Giants defense almost historically bad against running backs in terms of efficiency.

Henderson is a big playback and is going to have multiple opportunities, loved the usage last week. He's a top 12 running back for me this week. Wondale Robinson is not far from a top. 12 wide receiver. And Adam gets mad every time anybody says that. But you can see top 18 for Jamie, Dave, me, sports line, 30% target share since Malik neighbors went down. And yes, there's weeks where he only scores 9, 10, 11, 12 points. There's also been a couple of weeks this year where he scored almost 30. You start that guy every single week, especially this week in a game where they're going to be chasing the score. And then Ashton Gentie, we've talked about how bad his schedule is. I don't know if it

matters how bad his schedule is if they throw it to him 17 times a game. His usage in the passing game has been fantastic, and this Chargers defense has been a little leaky against running backs from time to time. They've given up some big plays. I think there's a chance for Gentie to pop one here. All right. Gentie or Trayvion Henderson? I think I have Gentie, Trayvion, and Harvey all back to back to back.

Okay. These guys are starts this week. And we'll go to players to avoid. We'll stay with Heath. you can start all those guys over D'Andre Swift at Philadelphia. You know, it's funny because I feel like we handled the D'Andre Swift thing pretty well. Like we told everybody to draft him and we've been telling everybody for the last month to sell high and you don't have a chance to sell high anymore.

He's not a top 30 running back for me. I have zero faith that he will be the best bears running back in this game. I think there's a chance they play from behind and have to go high pass volume and Caleb hasn't been throwing to his running backs anymore. so sit swift sit menong guy sit daniel jones even at home it's the texans that have been the best defense against quarterbacks all season long i think they've let three all year reach 20 fantasy points i'm the high guy on daniel swift apparently at q b15 sports line likes him a lot more than i do and then i've been the high guy on brock purdy i don't care really about the three interceptions i still think he's going to be a start on almost every week, with nobody on up by and him facing the Browns, there's absolutely no reason to start him. Yeah, you know, I went back and I read my notes about Purdy from two games ago,

where he had a good game. Who was, I'm sorry, who did he face two games ago? Cardinals. Pretty two games ago faced the Cardinals and had three touchdowns with 200 yards pass. Yeah, but he also threw two terrible passes, just like these 50, not even 50, 50, like 80, 20 balls should have been intercepted. So he's just making bad decisions right now, and you're right. I mean, it's against Cleveland on the road.

It's not exciting stuff. So Heath says sit D'Andre Swift, Daniel Jones, and Brock Purdy. Just a quick stat for you. Little, like, kind of Cardinals running back thing here. The Bear's running backs. A Bears running back has scored a touchdown in seven of the last eight games. So they have that, I guess I can't really call it a streak, but a stretch. No, it's a three game streak.

Three game? Yeah, but non-guise scored in three straight games. There you go. But what about Swift before that? I wonder how far back it goes. Anyway, Jamie says sit Aaron Jones at Seattle. Sit Michael Pittman. Sitman against Houston.

And this one you guys might disagree on. Sit Debo Samuel against Denver, if I remember the rankings correctly. But Aaron Jones at Seattle, Pittman against Houston, Debo against Denver. Yeah, Jones taking on a Seahawks defense that has been very good against opposing running backs with potentially an un-eastern.

undrafted rookie quarterback making his first start, down potentially two linemen in Derrassau and Dante Jackson, I believe it is, or Johnson, I'm not sure, but left guard and left tackle. Donovan Jackson. Donovan Jackson, dealing with both dealing with ankle injuries. So not the most ideal situation, but even if it's McCarthy.

I mean, how do you trust this offense in general taking on that Seahawks defense on the road? In the case of both receivers, the matchups are brutal. Pittman taking on the number one team in terms of few as fancy points allowed in Houston, his last three against the Texans going back to last season, 9.4 PPR points or less. You got a little lucky last week with what he did against Kansas City because it was five catches for 27 yards scored a touchdown. So he's been really good this season.

He's probably one of the best values that we have all year at any position just based on how he's performed. But this is just not a good spot to trust him against his Texan defense, which as we saw last week just completely annihilated the bill's offense. And I know Khalil Shakir did well, but I don't think the way that they play is going to necessarily benefit Pittman taking on the Texans. and their cornerbacks.

And in the case of Debo Samuel, obviously was fantastic last time we saw him against Miami and Madrid and does have a touchdown in his last two games. But his last two with Terry McLaurin on the field, he's been under five PPR points in both of those games. Patrick Sertan may play in this game. So you're looking at a defense that's getting healthier.

Singleton may play as well, which is a great sign. I forget about fantasy just in real life. I just don't trust Debo in this spot because I don't know if we'll get the targets that he needs in a brutal, brutal matchup. So for me, Debo is not even a starter in three or C real leagues. All right. So I'll let Heath, you can chime in on this since we're going to talk about that game tomorrow or, sorry, Friday.

And you won't be on for that. So you and Dave are higher on Debo. Jamie has him 30 or 40. Oh, sorry, let me get you exactly. Jamie has him 40th. You have him 24th. Dave has Debo Samuel 21st against Denver. Yeah, I just think the way that they are manufacturing touches for him,

occasionally handing it off into the backfield, but often throwing it to an area of the field where defensive corners don't maybe matter quite so much. If you're catching the ball two yards behind the line of scrimmage, nobody's probably locking you up. I think that they're going to have to do stuff like that because they're probably not going to have success running the football, and Marcus Moriota is not going to have success throwing the ball downfield. And Debo's just kind of found away most weeks this season to be at least a top 30 guy and often a top 24 guy. He's not a must

start by any stretch, but I don't think he's somebody you have to run away from. I hope he's healthier coming off the by. I think he seemed limited. What was it, a heel injury? He'd been really struggling since then, and they're not using him downfield at all. He has two...

Well, he was great against the dolphins. Yeah, but it was gimmicky stuff. I mean, he had three screen passes in that game. In his last five games, he has five targets of 10 or more air yards, five targets of 10 or four areas in five games, only two catches. Everything is screens and short stuff for him.

And it didn't really look like he was moving well. So I hope he's... I think they're going to need that stuff this week, though. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, Denver just eliminates everything. All right. Well, it's time for football at BetMGM. If you register with BetMGM,

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at bet MGM. Place your money line, parlay bets, and more today. Bet MGM, make it legendary. All right, we got a lot of news and notes. Here we go. Jackson Dart, practice in full. Looks like he's going to play. J.J. McCarthy was limited,

but not expected to play. Max Brosmer expected to start at Seattle. Baker Mayfield has a chance to play right now. We're thinking it'll be Bridgewater against Arizona. Aaron Rogers missed practice, but they seem optimistic that he'll play against Buffalo. Daniel Jones Limited, but he's going to play against Houston, and C.J. Stroud practiced in full.

So it looks like Dart and Stroud will get out of the concussion protocol and play this week. Running back, Trey Benson was limited. Maybe we'll get Trey Benson. Maybe we'll get O'Mary in Hampton. We will get Josh Jacobs. Alvin Kamara missed practice. We're not expecting him.

Devon Neal was limited with an ankle injury. They're at Miami. Buckie Irving practiced in full. But as Heath alluded to, I think, on Wednesday morning show, We're not expecting a big workload. They equated it to what Chris Godwin got, which was, I think, less than half the snaps last week. So do you guys have Bucky in your top 24?

Yes. I do not. What do you have, Jamie? Right around 20. Okay. Ken Walker was limited. Ashton Genti practiced. Not on the injury report.

He's good to go. Wide receiver, Jamie mentioned Marvin Harrison Jr. was limited. Mention that Terry McLaurin was limited. Rishie Rice will play on third. Thursday. Keep an eye on Devante Smith. He could be out on Friday against Chicago. If Devante Smith were out, would that change your Jalen Hertz, A.J. Brown, Dallas Goddard rankings Heath. I might lower Hertz a couple of spots, but he'd still be a top 10 quarterback. Devante Smith, or A.J. Brown is already like 15th, so he might creep into the

top 12. Goddard would be the big winner, and he'd become startable again. Drake London is doubtful. Okay, he's not going to play. Matthew Golden, questionable. Jaden Reed is out. Brian Thomas Jr. was limited. There was a report over the weekend that Brian Thomas Jr. had a solid chance to play this week at Tennessee.

Chris Olavay left practice early with a back injury. Uh-oh. We're going to have to keep an eye on that one. I haven't seen our background. Oh, it changed. What is this? We have multiple Thanksgiving.

This is Thanksgiving? This is Thanksgiving? This looks like Alice in Wonderland or something. something like that. I don't even know. This looks strange. Maybe Thanksgiving and the upside down. Hey, there you go. The upside down. Are you going to watch tonight? Is that tonight?

Yeah. Stranger things. I probably won't. Lucas is not home and we watched all the rest with him. So we'll probably wait. Elig Isle Manor was limited. Jalen Waddle was limited. Dalton Kincaid. Dalton Cicade mispractice.

Noah Gray, Kansas City tight end. He's out. Brock Wright, out for Detroit. Darren Waller was limited. And the big offensive line news, Trey Smith out for Kansas City. You've got maybe the bills without both of their tackles.

They're definitely going to be without their right tackle, Spencer Brown. He's on IR. Left tackle, Dion Dawkins is in concussion protocol. Chandler Zavala, guard for the Panthers. He missed practice. Left tackle Will Campbell for the Patriots.

He's on IR. They're going to be missing their left guard and left tackle for this game against the Giants. And, oh, my goodness, Frank Ragnow, Detroit Center, he's coming out of retirement. He's not going to play this week. He probably won't play next week,

so maybe mid-December for Frank Ragnow. And Jamie already mentioned two offensive linemen for the Vikings, left tackle and left guard. They miss practice. The, oh, man, I feel like nope, everybody's probably tuned out by now. So I will say that Chicago,

injured at linebacker, getting healthier at cornerback, not great developments with that and Devante Smith for the Eagles passing game but what are you going to do? You're not going to sit. You're not going to sit Jailer Hertz.

All right. Oh, Kyle Hamleton practice in full. He's good to go. We'll take a break. One question for each game when we come back. All right. Giants are at the Patriots.

I think I already know the answer but we've got a slumping Drake May and a Jackson Dart coming back from the concussion. Do you trust the quarterbacks in this game, Jamie? Yes. Heath?

Both top 12. May more trust than DART. Are you going to move May down? He's two for you? Probably not. Okay. Ride or die? You know, he's my guy. It has been all year. All year, man. Buffalo at Pittsburgh. Heath, how do you approach the Pittsburgh running backs here?

Great matchup. The splits. I didn't notice this until earlier today, but it was really, Warren played more than Gainwell for the first three quarters. They started, they were trailing by 10 early in the fourth quarter. and then it was so much Gainwell. Obviously, they could be trilling in this game, but what do you think about the two guys this week? I think Warren is a low-end RB2,

and Gainwell is a mid-to-high-end flex. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of the passing game work goes to Warren now that he's got a week under his belt. I have one league where my top running backs are the Steelers guys and the Bears guys, and I'm playing both Steelers guys. Both Steelers guys over the Bears guys?

Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, next game. Vegas at the Chargers. Jamie, you're going to start a Chargers running back, be at Hampton or Vidal? Low and number two running back. So in a similar range of Bucky Irving, like once you get to like running back 18 or 19 this week,

it gets a little dicey with everybody after that. So I think in the case of Vidal, if he's by himself, you can still use him as a number two running back. And hopefully this is his every other week, even though last week was a biweek and didn't play coming off of a bad week. So we'll see which trend holds.

It's a weak thing or a game thing. but I could see him with a modest yardage total and finding the end zone because I expect the Chargers to have the ball quite a bit. I'm sorry, but this is just fantastic. Thomas from the FFT account throwing shade at J.J. McCarthy in the chat is... Always.

It's really one of my favorite things. Would you rather start a Chargers running back or a Steelers running back? Jalen Warren. Warren, Vidal, Gainwell. What if it's Hampton? Warren, Hampton, Gainmont. Okay, because Hampton says he's hopeful to play.

Houston is at Indianapolis. Why are you so confident in Nico Collins? I think you guys have him in the top 15. Why he's so confident? He's going to get sauced. He's one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. Yeah, I agree. If he gets targets against Gardner, he'll be fine.

He hasn't been good. He hasn't been that good this year, except in really, really good matchups. This ain't it. I mean, he's wide receiver 13 on the season. Per game? Per game. Yeah, but not in tough matchups.

Okay. But not in tough matchups. All right. I mean, I guess can you name two receivers? And you can't use Michael Wilson now. You can name two receivers that you may have drafted later, picked up off waivers that you'd be starting over? Well, no, I have a lot of NICO.

I never sit them. Right. However, if Marvin Harrison Jr. were out, I would start Michael Wilson over him. I'm with you on that. Yep. Yep. If Marvin Harrison Jr. were in, I think I'd start Marvin Harrison. I would start Marvin Harrison Jr. over him. I'm with you. I would not start Wondale Robinson over him. I would not start Michael Pittman over him. I would really think about Troy Franklin. Really think about Troy Franklin over him. Wow. Let me tell you, Troy Franklin's had eight or more targets. in five straight games. Eight wide receivers have had

eight or more targets against the commanders and six of them have scored 16.8 or more PPR fantasy points. So great matchup for him. Okay. Jacksonville at Tennessee.

Is Travis E.T.N. Heath the only confident start in this game? For me, yes. I think for Dave and Jamie Strange is in that range also as a confident start. I think he's

more of in that low-end tight-in-one blob. But yeah, I would say yes. Okay. San Francisco at Cleveland, Jamie Starter Sit, Quinshan Judkins. In that 20-ish-plus range of running backs where I'm hopeful they continue to run some wildcat with him to manufacture just opportunities, not that he changes if he's getting carries or not, but they're giving him, you know, different ways to touch the football. But this is not a slam dunk situation because of should or something. Sanders. And look, the, I think a lot of what happened last week for Rico Dado was Dave

Canales and the offense there. I don't think this is a tough matchup. So low end number two running. All right, folks, listen, vote, vote, vote. Voting is open. Go to the 64.com. Right on the homepage there. You're going to see the contest. The America's Best Sports Talk radio slash podcast. We are into the round of 16. You got a promise something big, bud. Big matchup if we went out, whatever. I will do it. Yeah, you already shot down the thing that we said. Well, they were, I don't remember what they were. Oh, take my shirt off.

I'm not doing that. No, straight through the neighborhood for 64 seconds. I don't know what I'll do. I mean, I'll do something fun. We'll have fun with it. But yeah, just it's so easy to vote. You get a, you get a text message to your phone to verify that it's you. Go to a brewery and taste 64 beers.

Oh, geez. I'll be out for the next three days. You have to eat 64 slices of pizza in a week. Okay. That's nine a day? You say you eat a lot of pizza. I feel like I can do it. Because that's, oh my gosh.

64 push-ups would probably take longer. 64 push-ups would be tough. I can't in good health. I cannot do the pizza thing. Why? Why? I, jeez. I got some real quick questions for you here.

Don't even think about it. Just go. Pumpkin pie or pecan pie? Pumpkin. Yes. Turkey or ham? Turkey. Turkey.

Pie alamode or no la mode? Yes. Yeah. Ice cream. Yeah, okay. Sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes? Mashed. Mash potato.

Come on. Stuffing or gravy. You can only choose one. Stuffing. Do I have something to put the gravy on or? I just drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For your meal.

I'll take the gravy then. Okay, Heath, you only got one right. It was the ice cream one. Everything else you got wrong. Listen, we're going to have a little fun tonight. It's FFT After Dark. Let's pull up this tweet. Schaefer, you got the tweet.

Here we go. Heath's perfect Thanksgiving meal. I won't read. I'll let you read it. Give me your perfect Thanksgiving meal. So you get a large plate with one third of it, having smoked turkey. one third of it mashed potatoes, one third of its stuffing, and just cover it all with gravy,

a little bowl on the side with homemade cranberry sauce. And if you get done and you want some more, then just repeat that. And then when you're done, you have one piece of pumpkin pie, one piece of pecan pie. If I could critique, I don't think you got enough side dishes in there. No, this is not. I was having this talk with my son earlier tonight because he was talking about all the different things that people bring. this is not in my opinion a day for superfluous sides this is a day for turkey and mashed potatoes and gravy and pumpkin pie and anything that makes those things better i mean just feels like

you could do that any day like thanksgiving is about i don't i don't eat i don't eat turkey all year long man you got you go to boston market and you're like just give me turkey and potatoes that's a whole fun is picking out all the sides the mac and cheese no i don't i don't first off i've never been into Boston Market. And second off, I have never gone to a restaurant and said, just give me turkey and mashed potatoes because I don't go to a restaurant on Thanksgiving. Well, every day. This is Thanksgiving. Every day's Thanksgiving at Boston Market. Jamie, what's your perfect Thanksgiving meal? Heath has a lot of it. I would throw a vegetable in there just to, you know, be a little healthy. Yeah, I don't want to talk. I don't want to think about being healthy or

eating something to make somebody else feel good. I like broccoli, though. So I throw broccoli. It's fine if you like it. All right. I'm going to get perfect for me would be ham, mashed potatoes, stuffing, corn suflay, green bean casserole, cornbread. And for dessert, ice cream, and we got these, I know, Jamie, you're into these, the brown butter cookies from Whole Foods. Oh, yeah. Oh, they're amazing. They're so good.

So I'm fired out. We also have pies and stuff, but I'm not going to eat that. But that's not a Thanksgiving thing, though. No, that's for me because I don't eat the pies. we have pumpkin pie and like a blueberry pie or something this is exactly what the pilgrims age I'm just trying to replicate the meal Heath is a Thanksgiving purist

all I hope everybody has an amazing Thanksgiving and all the good food that you can handle with that said private chat yeah Schaefer alerting me that Boston market is basically defunct now and there are hardly any and I knew that because there's an empty one

like a couple miles away from me that I pass all the time. I'm like, awesome more used to be very good. Right? It's great. It was a great. I got nothing to eat,

but I don't want to get like fast food. Just pop in there, get a nice Thanksgiving dinner. Giants are at the Patriots. I already gave my stat of the game. It's about Drake May and how he's on pace for 4,700 yards in his last four games,

but just too many interceptions and not enough rushing yards. But anyway, you guys trust the quarterbacks. Which one do you like better? I know Heath likes May better. How about you, Jamie? me. I do like Maybatter, yes. All right.

Okay. So, Trayvion Henderson is pretty close to a must start for you guys. Giants, as Heath said, they're almost historically bad against running backs. I think I said yesterday. They're allowing a yard more precarry to running backs than any other team. Diggs. Heath, do you have any hesitation with Stefan Diggs? Jamie is very excited about him. Yeah. I hope he gives us another good. week. He feels to me more like, and he doesn't run the same type of routes necessarily or play the same way, but these boom busts number three wide receivers. And his is not because he might just have a cardio day. It's because he might just run half of the routes. And you don't really

know when that's going to happen. This seems like if you've got a 31 year old wide receiver that sometimes you're playing all the time and sometimes you're playing half the time, against the giants might be one of the times that you play them half the time. Okay. Listen, buddy. I know. You guys play a lot of close games. We do. But nobody ever actually thinks you're going to beat them. They just know you're going to make it entertaining until you throw it at the end.

But seriously, no one runs away from the Giants. They're in every single game. I'm actually shocked by this spread. There's seven and a half point underdogs. They are covering. Guarantee it. You have them winning. I do have them winning.

I picked this upset. Absolutely. And I feel it. I feel it. How many times this year have you picked the Giants to win an upset? No. at least three different times I've showed up to a stream and you had a score prediction as your name on YouTube those were for fun this one is real they're going to win this game

but all right so you have digs 25th around there yeah not I'm not sitting him I just I'm uncomfortable because I don't understand how to project his role on a week-to-week basis it's not consistent. This 53.8% route participation rate was way lower than what we had been seeing. The last three weeks have been 73%, 78%, 89%, and then he ran 54% of the route. I mean, it was a Hunter Henry game. Like they went completely with, what do you have, 10 catches, 10 targets, 7 catches? I mean, it was a monster game for Henry.

I think just in the case of what this matchup is, they've allowed 15 wide receivers to score at least 14 PBR points this season and one in every game. So who could it be? I mean, it could easily be K. Sean Bouti. It could be Matt Collins. It could be DeMorrow Douglas. We've seen these guys all pop at some point this season. Diggs, to me, just feels like the safest one to get to that number.

Okay. I'm trying to look at the Patriots here. And if they ran more fewer three-wide receiver sets, about normal for them. Also, I'm pretty sure the Giants' average margin of defeat is 10 points. So it's like it's not like they're losing. losing on a lot of last second field. No, they've had some fun, competitive games, but they've lost a bunch of games by two scores.

When? In the Jackson Dart era? Well, their last two games were seven point losses. They had a four in there, a 10, and 18 against the Eagles, 12 against the Saints. Yeah, that was five terms. I think they've blown four fourth quarter leads of 10 or more points. I think just maybe a couple of those games

They also lost by 10 points Okay, well anyway Diggs or Wondale Wadale Jamie I would go Dix All right Any other wide receivers in this game

I mean you can take a dart throw on Booty and hope that he comes That's funny I didn't think about it Hopefully he comes through But I think in the In the case of the Giants

Like, Darius Slayton was a huge disappointment last week. Hopefully he plays better this week. I'm not starting Isaiah Hodgins. And so for me, it would be the third best pass catcher that I trust would be Theo Johnson. Okay. Yeah, Darius Slayton was kind of splitting with Isaiah Hodgins on two receiver sets, whereas usually it was just him in Wondale. Hodgins took some snaps away from him.

We like Henderson. Do we like Tyrone Tracy? Do we like Singletary or Ramandre? Heath, give me your thoughts on the running backs in this game other than Trayvion. Tracy is right at the border of that RB2 discussion for me. I liked the route participation last week. So hopefully, I mean, the thing we don't know, I think, is have they got Jackson Dart a little more willing to just dump it off to a running back as opposed to try to run through 17 guys? and hopefully so

for everybody involved I would Singletary and Tracy are two guys you are really hoping that you do not have to start and Ramandre I mean but I would go

Romandre or Singletary I think just in the case of Tracy there's two things to keep an eye on here one his two big games have come with Mike Kafka calling place so or is the intermecoe yeah so that's the hopeful positive

It's also coincided without Jackson Dart being there. That's the potential negative. You've talked about this quite a bit. So losing Milton Williams for the Patriots, we'll see how that matters. Now, Tonga, right? Yeah. I can just read something for you from the Patriots website.

He wrote, definitely, or defensively, the impact of not having Williams and Chiris Tonga, who played 12 snaps before exiting the game, really showed up on, really showed up both on film and statistically. From the eye test, the defense lacked impactful plays from the front seven that jump off the film. So, yes, they are down to very important... Well, I don't know about Tonga.

I don't know if he's going to play. Tonga was limited today. So that's something he's not. It's a chest injury that he's dealing with. Williams is on IR. The other part of this, which I think matters for Tracy, and he's talked about this with the route participation, that they are number two and most receptions allowed to running backs.

So if Tracy continues to do that with Dart, then there's a big opportunity. here. He's got seven targets in his last two games. He's got six catches over that span. Like, that's huge for him. You know, so continue to involve him in the passing game on top of what he's doing as a rusher. So I think he's a low end number two running back of flex. I could certainly see both sides of the equation if you want to say bench him because what he did with Dart prior to that was miserable. Yeah, Tracy, I think, you know, he had, he said seven catches for, like, 119 yards or something like that in the last two games. Okay.

Would you start Tracy or Judkins in full PPR? Tracy. Tracy. Half PPR. Tracy. Yeah. Non-PPR. Yep, Tracy.

Interesting. Judkins and none. All right. And Heath, do you like Theo or Hunter Henry better? Neither one is in my top 12. Both are in consideration if you need them because they're not that far from nine in the projections. I would lean slightly towards Henry. Jamie, real quick,

Heath has Drake May 2nd. You have him 7th? Any hesitation at all with May? I mean, you're starting him. Again, the guys that I have ranked ahead of him, they're probably one that you would question would be Lamar Jackson at this point. But both good matchups.

I'm hopeful, more so than anything that Lamar Jackson prime time takes advantage of that game against the Bengals. So have him slightly. Okay. And a couple questions from the chat. Theo Johnson or Taysam Hill? Theo. Theo. Wondale Robinson or Ken Walker the third?

Wanda. Wando. Would you not go, by the way, would you not go Tassam Hill over Theo and non-PPR? He's been so bad. I mean, Taysom has scored one touchdown this season, so. And every carry is worth like a yard and a half. Okay, fair enough. Patriots DST.

Just in the case of, Thiel. Just in the case of Theo, the Patriots have been batting against tight ends for the majority of the season, and he's been good with Jackson Dart, and he was good last week, too. Career high, 77 yards receiving. So I think Theo Johnson's in play as a low-in-star. You also like the Patriots defense, and Heath does not.

And I make sense because Giants are going to win. Buffalo is at Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to keep giving this stat, and it's that Pittsburgh sees the most pass attempts per game in the NFL. And now 10 straight quarterbacks have thrown 33 or more passes against them. And they gave up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. So, Khalil Shakir, or Wondale, or Diggs? Let's compare. Heath, who do you like best of that?

I'd go Wondale, Shakir, and Diggs. All right. It's going to be hard to get away from Shakir. Yeah, I have all three in the top 20. I do have Diggs first, but I have all three in top 20. Okay. I asked you guys about the Steelers running backs. What's so funny?

I'm just thinking about draft season and showing us a clip of Jamie saying that he has Wondale Robinson, Cleal Shakir, and Stefan Diggs all on the top 20 when there's no teams on a buy. Yeah. That's crazy. Jalen Warren is 18th

through 20th for you guys. And yeah, again, if they can just not be trailing in the fourth quarter, then it'll be better for him. And Gainwell's a decent flex. Start Allen, start cook. start Shakir but you say that though

they were back and forth with the Bears last week and he had season high 18 carries who did Warren yeah but he didn't play much in the fourth quarter

he did have the carry he didn't have any catches but you're right he did have the carries but he played fewer snaps than Gainwell it was mostly in the fourth quarter once they went down by 10

and for Gainwell if you take away the crazy tush push play he still had 13.7 PPR points he had a lot of catch you know what else he had a lot of catches in a brief stint two weeks ago with mason rudolph so i don't know if that's a rudolph thing if he's just like throwing a gainwell or the running backs or whatnot but well the two weeks ago was when warren got hurt yeah you're right but it was not a lot but it was a lot of past steps to the running back i guess from mason rudolph all right dawson knox no and then over to pittsburgh what do we think about dk mack f starter set

Number three wide receiver. Yeah, I don't know how you can start him in two receiver leagues. I know he had the, it's so stupid to say it was a rushing touchdown, but it was a rushing touchdown. So he hasn't caught a touchdown now. I believe it's four straight games. He's been 50 yards or less than four straight games. Like, it's just not going well for him. And you have either Mason Rudolph again or an injured Aaron Rogers.

Like, I think you just treat him as a number three receiver and hope for the best. Okay, so talk to me about the streamers this week, the Yoshavis, D.K., etc., group versus D.K. Metcalfe. He's had all of them. I would start Yoseva ahead of Metcalf. If there is no Marvin Harrison, I'll start Greg Dorch ahead of Metcalf. I would start Parker Washington ahead of McAfee. I know he's not a streamer, but still a guy in the waiver wire range. Okay, I got some good questions in the chat. We're not going to start a tight end for the Steelers. They're unreliable and this is the worst matchup. Can I just ask, though, I know this is crazy.

I'm going to ask it anyway. You got maybe both tackles out. Any hesitation to start Josh Allen? Do you know how many sacks the Steelers have in the last two games? No. What would you guess it would be? Keep in mind that they had a strip sack in the end zone against Caleb Williams. Three.

The Colts game is not in their last three games, would they have by or not? Their last two games were against Cincinnati and Chicago. Okay. four three you're both too high two sacks can be kind of an up and down stat but fair well i mean josh down was just sacked eight times so they may get to him quite a bit but i'm gonna guess the bills do a better job of protecting alan this week and i like the situation for him pissed off coming off a loss okay jalen warren or javanti williams jaylon for me calil shakir or zay flowers Shakir.

I think I have Shakir a little bit higher, yeah. Jalen Warren or Cortland Sutton. Warren. Yeah. Play Kareem Hunt on Thursday or pick Gainwell or Charbonnet. Hunt. I would play Hunt, but it's close with Gainwell. For Thanksgiving, pigs in a blanket or a charcutory platter?

Pigs in a blanket. You know, I really messed up on my tweet because I should have put deviled eggs for an appetizer. We're doing charcuttery for what it's worth. I don't really think pigs in a blanket are a Thanksgiving

treat. But you think shirkutory is? From Whole Foods. You have no say in this conversation. We're having a chakutery board

and whole food cookies and I think that your thing is too untraditional. Well, you know, fine,

you're right. All right, let's take a, you like the Bill's DST? No. I lowered them. I had them too high earlier.

I don't think the Steelers' offense is any good, but it's not in a way that gives up fantasy points usually. I think we're getting 35 to 40 touches for their running backs. Like, it's going to be a lot of Warren and Gainwell. Johnny Airport. Adam calls luncheables, a shortcut report.

Oh, that Thomas is funny. It's actual. Thomas wishes he was as funny as Johnny Airbrough. We all do. We all do. All right, Las Vegas is at the Chargers. When we come back, we'll be right back on fantasy football today.

All right, welcome back to the Thanksgiving. Good see, Dave, getting ready for Thanksgiving. Yeah, pumping iron. Some of you, we come back from break sometimes in the audio. The audio audience is like, what are you guys talking about? We were just sort of promo of Dave lifting weights. Dave's tucked in shirt always kills me. He's bench pressing with a tucked in shirt.

All right, Las Vegas is at the Chargers. Heath, go ahead, break it down. for me. Start Ashton Genty, start Brock Bowers, start Ladd McConkey, start Justin Herbert, and then we can have some discussions

about the rest. We're going to have a discussion right now about Justin Herbert. How can I trust Justin Herbert on this broken offense? I mean, I think Shador Sanders just scored like 16 fantasy points against this defense. I don't think he did. He scored 12.3.

Okay, close enough. On 20 pass attempts. And he came a yard away from a touchdown. But, dude, the Jaguars two weeks ago? That was the layup of layups. And they were horrible. I finally went back and watched. I mean, it's so obvious.

Their line stinks. And again, his A-DOT's been four and a half yards or lower. Two straight games. This offense has been broken. If Dave were here, he'd be agreeing with me, by the, way but where does dave have herbert when i did the notes he had him 15th he has him 11th now so you guys have him 8th and he has him 11th yeah he really agrees with you yeah well he did no i i think he probably thinks the stadiums are in buildings too i think the 11th sounds right like you have him

jami you have him ahead of um brisette dart burrow heath you have him ahead of nick's dart brisette and burrow i would start those guys over him but i wouldn't start anyone i didn't feel great about i I wouldn't start Caleb or golf over him. I get that. But anyone I think has upside, I would start over Herbert because I'm nervous about it. I think rightfully so, I'm nervous about him. I mean, I get it.

The Jaguars game was miserable. They're back home. They're playing a team that's clearly in disarray. And yes, Max Crosby can really cause problems for this offensive line. I get it. But you've got to hope that they find some way to protect Herbert a little bit more.

Maybe the threat of a Marion Hampton being back. And a better run game helps things out a little bit. But I just look at the matchup. Like, yes, he should have done well against Jacksonville. That was a, and this was something that I lamented throughout the entirety of that game was 1 o'clock start, East Coast trip, right before a bye week. You know, this is, they're rested, they're ready to go. Again, they're not going to get their tackles back. So that doesn't solve the problem, but it should be a little bit easier against this defense.

And I'm just going to trust Herbert. So I think if the tackles were there and he was being. protected you could be you can make a case for top three for him this week like there's that much upset yeah uh right it's just he's he's his time to throw the the amount of times where he gets rid of the ball quickly is directly correlated to the games where joe walt has been out and obviously that's going to affect usually going to affect quentin johnston who earlier on wednesday we called a boomer bust number three receiver i think his last two games against the raiders 21 targets over 200 yards receiving

and two touchdowns. I mean, do you guys have any Quentin Johnson? You know I do. No, really, I was in you drafted him. I mean,

I have him in, I think, three leagues. I'm starting Christian Watson over him. As of now, I'm still, well,

I have Greg Dorchin over him, but I can't do that. I can't start Josh Downs over him. So I'll probably have to start him in this one stupid league where my team sucks. That's a 14-team league.

It would surprise me if he has a good game again. You know, this is if you think Herbert's going to have some time, I think he's going to have some chances to make place. Okay, that's Quentin Johnson. We're talking about any interest in Keenan Allen. Not really. He's basically in the same range as me. For me, I don't have any idea which one of those two will be good.

Who's the second best receiver in this game? Quinn Johnson. I can't judge Joe Tucker with Gino Smith against his defense. So, yeah, I've got Trey Tucker right in the same range as both of those guys. I think I actually have in full PBR, Keenan-L, on the highest right now. Oh, gee, Jamie, I wonder why you can't trust him. Let's take a look at some pictures. I brought some screenshots to the party.

This was the first or second pass attempt of the game. Trey Tucker, you see him at the 32-yard line? He is so open. Gino Smith has a clean pocket. This was an incomplete pass. This was 12-51 left in the first quarter. than 10. It's like, do it was going to be a long day after this. Tucker, that should have been a huge 30-yard game. How about this one? This one's tough. I mean, he gets walloped as he

hit him, but here's Tucker with a step on a defender, deep ball, not even close. And then this one, look at how open Trey Tucker is. Trey Tucker's at the three-yard line. He's so open. Again, there was pressure on Gino Smith, but this ball was nearly intercepted. He did not lead him. So this bad... That's encouraging, right? yes that's the thing it is he he's got the ability to make these big plays and he got open several times deep but you got 10 targets he did get 10 targets just didn't work out he's he's on the jameson williams spectrum well it's you know he's one of those guys i feel like we're going to get some questions about should i start shimra dike john mechi josevis over tray tucker

you never know with tucker yeah i would start tucker over those guys all right james's a little higher on the streamers, I guess. Their matchups are better. Oh, yeah. The chargers are really good against wide receivers. That's a big part of this. Really good against receivers.

All right, Gentie, we've discussed. Let's go back to Hampton and Vidal. How did you rank them again if they all play? If Hampton, give me the running back rankings in this game with and without Hampton. In this game? Yeah, so like, would you start Hampton over Gentie?

Would you start Vigdell? No, no, no. No, no, no. I think you got to treat Hampton as potentially a better version of Bucky Irving. You know, so unless we hear there's going to be workload concerns. I, for me, Gentie is really the only running back that I want to start unless, whether Hampton plays or not. Okay. Just a tough matchup.

Good run defense here. Vidal's been a little unreliable. Okay. How about Gainwell or Chargers guy? I think I asked you that earlier. I'm sorry, but again. I would start Chargers guy over Gainwell. I would in non-and-half PPR and full PPR, I'd go Gainwell.

Okay. Someone's asking Hampton or Rico Doudal. You guys are going to go RICO. Would you start Kamani Vidal over Ken Walker if Hampton were out? No, no. Last thing is the tight ends in this game. Brock Bowers, we're going to start. What about O'Ronday Gatston, Jamie.

How do you feel about him? He's a low-end starter. The Raiders have actually been good against Ted ends. I think a lot of that has to do with matchups. And hopefully Gadsden gets back to where he was prior to two games ago. One of those games he left early with the quad injury, the last game was everybody sucked against the Jaguar. So I still think you treat him as a top 10 guy.

Now, for me, I would start Brent Strange over him. I would start Dalton Schultz over him. I would start Juan Johnson over him. But that's basically the order I have it. I think I have it, Johnson, Schultz, Strange, Gadsden. Someone's asking if Vidal's not hurt, is he? Vidal was banged up going into their bi-week. I don't know what the practice reports are, though.

I've not seen that for the charges yet today. Okay, I'll try to check on that. I think he's going to play based on the report I read about Omari in Hampton. I think Bidel's good. He's not on the injury report, so he's good. All right, chat questions here. Heath is higher on Gadsden, by the way. and Gadsden or Pitts

Gadsden Gadsden Gadsden Vidal or Kareem Hunt Hunt Vidal Assuming Hamptons

You're not going to know that tomorrow though True Right It's true Mark Andrews or Gadsden Gadsden Gadsden or Dalton

Kincade if he plays Or pick up on Kincaid did not practice on Wednesday, though. Gadsden. Okay. Last one. Gadsden, Strange, or Tyler Warren? Warren.

Last one. Ladd-McConkie, Cortland Sutton, A.J. Brown, rank them. With Devante Smith in, it would be Ladd, A.J. Sutton. With Devante Smith out, it would be A.J. Ladd. Sutton. I'll go A.J. Ladd-Sutton either way. Pumpkin pie or apple pie. Pumpkin. Definitely pumpkin tomorrow.

Okay, apple pie, obviously. So that's it for that game. Let's go to Houston at Indianapolis. Oh, Chargers. You said you're eating Whole Foods cookies on Thanksgiving instead of, quote, the pies. You're not having a pie. No, we have two pies, but I'm not eating them. Why not?

Because I don't like them. One of them is pumpkin pie, which is... Well, that we understand. What's the other one? I think it's blueberry. We were a little confused by it from a restaurant. So you got pies for the meal with the family and just went and bought cookies for yourself because you didn't like the pies. Incorrect, Heath.

My wife bought them for me. Oh, that was nice. I didn't know. I didn't ask you to. What will your children eat? Because those cookies are very tempting or they have both. They eat everything. They will eat everything.

They love dessert. No question. What will your kids eat? They will eat pumpkin pie and apple pie. Heath? Like literally everything. He will probably have three plates. He's a disposal right now.

All right. Houston at Indianapolis. An updated stat of the game. Gave this one out last week. It worked, I guess. The Colts have allowed 16.9 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in four straight games. They're just giving up touchdowns.

They don't have a bad run defense per se. The last two weeks have been bad, though, and that's coinciding with the forest box. Buckner being up. I mean, it's not like Kareem Hunt was running all over him, but he had 30 carries. Yeah, but you look at the combination of

Alger and Bijjan in the previous game, the first one without Buckner, it was bad. Yeah, and you know, and Woody Marks, the last two games has, what, two catches, one catch, whatever? One catch each the last thing. He has faced the Titans and the Bills. They are among the very best against past

catching running backs. We do need that. We need maybe three catches from Marks to feel comfortable, but, you know, we've talked about a lot of running backs today. Jamie, how do you feel about what he marks? I, right now I have marks in the same range of Bucky Irving and Kamani Vidal and Quinchon Judkins and those guys, just a lot of questions.

But it's a great situation for him because of what this run defense has sort of morphed into without Buckner there. Heath? He's a high-in flex for me. I've got him right behind Quinn Sean Judkins. I have him ahead of Vidal and D'Andre Swift. I would like to rank him higher. It's just like it's been three weeks of him playing starter snaps

and producing single digit fancy points. So it was, yeah, two weeks in a row. 18 carries at Tennessee, 16. He did have a touchdown in the other game, but. Yep. Right. He had 14 carries for 63 yards and a touchdown against Jacksonville. So look, you're getting 14 to 18 carries, three straight games.

That's a good start. Hopefully he can find the end zone. You guys are starting Nico Collins. How about Jaden Higgins? Who have we talked about? Jaden Higgins or what game did we just do? Trey Tucker. I would take chance on Higgins.

Okay. Quentin Johnston or Jaden Higgins? Johnston. Johnson. Dalton Schultz, you guys have him eighth or ninth, at least you did last I checked. You got to throw out the build game. Prior to that, he was awesome.

Yeah, you have him ahead. Heath has him ahead of Strange. Jamie has them back-to-back, Strange one spot ahead. Yeah, Schultz is a good option. And the Colts allow the fifth-most fantasy points to tight ends. So it's a good matchup. Sit Daniel Jones, sit C.J. Stroud. Jonathan Taylor, I know you're going to start him,

but what are your expectations? I expect to have 100 yards in a touchdown. Jamie? I'm hopefully he has 100 yards in a touchdown. He's getting to the point where one of these guys of just, can you continue to rank him in the spot that he's being ranked? Man, it's a tough, tough matchup. This defense is so good.

And listen, you're obviously starting him. So what I'm about to say, throw it out the window. But he hasn't been great in these matchups. So I've got it with five tough matchups. this year, Denver, Rams, Raiders, Steelers, Chiefs. He has scored, he's had two terrible games, two amazing games, and one game with 14.6 fantasy points. It's not exactly the Jonathan Taylor that we've seen, but, you know, anywhere from 7.7 to 31.6

PPR fantasy points. Throw him the ball. All right. Jamie, your thoughts on the wide receivers. I think earlier you said you didn't like Pittman. I guess that means you don't like Pierce or Downs. it's just too tough to trust one of these guys will probably do something significant um last week pitman scores a touchdown he has five catches for 27 yards piercson downs doing next to nothing uh i think

this is a game where you have to lean on tyler warren and hopefully throw the ball to jonathan taylor i just don't expect much in the passing game the texas is just too good yeah i mean it's just it's brutal be going to start tyler warren of course it'd be really interesting in the uh in the south if the texans win this game yeah it's it's going to come down to the last week and for the Colts if they lose this game I believe they go to Jacksonville next they never win in Jacksonville who the Colts yeah that's going to be a big game that's going to be a big big game looking for some chat questions here I'm curious if you have any Woody Marks questions would you start

Woody Marks or a Broncos wide receiver uh I start marks I'd probably start both Broncos Broncos wide receivers. Both Broncos wide receiver. Okay. Is there anything else from this game? We like the Texans DST quite a bit. That's a pretty easy game. Chat questions.

Jaden Higgins, Xavier Worthy or Christian Watson? Watson. Watson. Nico Collins or Giovante Williams and half PPR? Nico. That's a good one. probably go Jibon to you.

Rank Woody Marks, Bucky Irving, and Kamani Vidal, and Kareem Hunt and Trey Benson. How about your top three? Marks, Bucky, Vidal, Hunt, Benson. How about the three we're currently ranking?

Yeah, okay. So that'd be Marks, you're not making a Bucking Irving yet? Oh, no, we do have Bucky in. I would go Hunt, Marks, Vidal.

I would go Marks, Vidal, Bucky. Higgins or Mechie? Mechie. Yeah, mesch. I'm not letting Oh, this is a real question.

Brosmer or General Mills? No, we're expecting C.J. Stroud to play. I thought Thomas put that in there just to make fun of the Vikings. Self-hating Vikings fan now. Love it. Strange or Schultz? I say that's for Jamie. That's Strange by one spot for Heath at Schultz.

And, okay. I think we're good here. Let's go to our next game. What is our next game? Oh, it's Jacksonville, Tennessee. Jacksonville, Tennessee. Here's an, oh, that's interesting, that of the game. Trevor Lawrence has scored fewer than 20 fantasy points in six point for passing touchdowns, leagues, in six games.

Five of those opponents are currently top eight against quarterbacks. How has he done in good matchups? Well, he's placed Cincinnati, and he scored 25.2. he faced the Raiders, scored 21.2. Seems like he might have a good game here, Jamie, Trevor Lawrence at Tennessee. I thought you were done with the Trevor defending. This is different. I like Trevor this week.

I think there's an opportunity for him, similar to what Sam Donald did last week. This Titan secondary is not good. And I think Lawrence showed a little something last week and how he responded after the end. interceptions and just playing very Jekyll and Hyde. But it's really more about just what this defense has allowed to opposing quarterbacks. I think there's a chance for him to be in that 20 plus point range,

whether he gets to 24, 25, that remains to be seen. But low-end starter, desperation play, certainly a starter in Superflex and two quarterback leagues. I think this is going to be one of Trevor Lawrence's better games in the last month. Who's the best AFC South quarterback this week in fantasy? I will take Trevor. I will take C.J. Stroud. Oh, I thought you were going to say Daniel Jones.

Always defending Daniel Jones over there. All right. Jacksonville running backs, Heath? Well, you're not. I'm joking. Start Travis E.N. Rachel Tooting is kind of a what the heck flex that you don't want to start. The usage last week was fantastic swinging back in E.T.N.'s direction, and they've gone pretty run heavy. That's the only concern I have with Trevor Lawrence is they may just want to take the ball out of his hand.

All right. What do we think about the Jaguars wide receivers? When you look at the Titans, they give up the fourth most fantasy points to wide receivers. Most of those wide receivers, though, are studs. They don't have given up a lot of points to any, the Parker Washington's, Jacoby Myers, or dare I say, Brian Thomas Juniors of the world. He said, such a bad year. Jamie, how are you feeling about these guys? I think Myers is a low-end number two receiver and Washington's a high-end number three receiver.

Washington has actually been better than Myers over their entirety together, but Myers, the last two games, has certainly become a significant factor for Trevor Lawrence. I believe it's three times this season where a pair of wide receivers against the Titans have scored at least 12 PPR points together. So I like that scenario for both these guys to be in hopefully that range. I just think that this defense is just not very good and there's not. opportunity for Lawrence to play well with his receivers and these two being his top two guys at this point. But you're approaching this as if Brian Thomas Jr. is not playing.

At this point, still being limited in practice on Wednesday, I'm not very confident. Could he practice on, I don't think they're going to practice on Thursday. So whatever they designate them from whatever their walkthrough is or estimated practice, we'll see. But Friday, at this point, I don't have any confidence in him. No. Okay. If he does play, does that make all of them sits? No. It makes the top two guys, which I still think are Myers and Washington as number three receivers, and I would not want to trust Thomas in his first game back.

He could certainly do something significant because he's talented, but I don't know how much faith the Jaguars coaching staff has in them right now. Heath, anything to say about the Jaguars wide receivers? Yeah, I think they're just number threes. I might be, I mean, Jacoby's a high end, Parker's a low end, and maybe it turns out that Parker Washington is better again. but number three wide receivers you have Strange 12th

Jamie and Dave have him seventh I mean I say what's your hesitation you haven't 12th but why are you not quite as high on Brent and Strange? Yeah I think like last week was awesome but it was awesome because he caught all of his targets and averaged like 14 yards a catch and that's not typically Brenton Strange

it was still five targets I don't think he has a touchdown on the season and Trevor hasn't really thrown very many touchdowns this season so it's just he's a fine starter I don't think he's a difference maker if he finished somewhere between 7th and 15th I wouldn't really be surprised

Brett and Stranger Jawan Johnson John John John John John John Red and Jane Stranger Theo Johnson Strange Strange Strange All right Sit Cam Ward we're encouraged I like to see it happen again

and he's rushed for more than 30 yards in two straight games That's excellent stuff He's also throwing to the running backs a lot but we're not going to trust the running backs, Pollard and Spears, pretty much ever. Jacksonville's got a very good run defense.

All right, Jamie, Shimray D.K., where do you end up in your rankings? Right around 40th. It's just not a lot of... You can't say must start at this point for him. The matchup's great. He's coming off a strong game.

Doesn't appear like Ion Manor is going to play unless I miss something. Limited today. Okay, so trending in the right direction. But no Calvin Ridley. So, again, it's got to be something, I think, where you see it maybe at least one more time. But even if he does do something, significant it one more time, like, it's just the Titans passing game is still just at this point in the season to say must start, especially with no teams not by. So maybe when we get to week 14, depending on what he does this week and, you know, what it looks like for the rest of the receiving court, I just think he's a break glass in case for emergency like your team is stuck.

You start this type of player. Yeah, look, I mean, the truth is, Cam Ward drove down the field in a two-possession game late in the fourth quarter through a touchdown pass with, I think, less than a minute left to Chimuray D-K, padded the stats. It wasn't exactly a blowout at that point, but it was garbage time, I guess, in a sense. It was late desperation times. It made everything look a lot better. And look, we can't trust the Titans' tight end. Neither of them have scored. But Gunner Helm is starting to play a lot more the last two games.

he's played as many snaps, basically, as Chig O'Conquo, and he just had a nice game. Jacksonville does... I'd rather start Helm than David Nijoku, for example. Oh, glad you said that, because that is going right into the next game. We've got a great note on the Brown's tight ends. But the Jaguars do allow the second-most fantasy points to tight ends, but still. And the Jaguars' DST is a low-end starter. Let me read some quick chat questions here for this game.

Would you start Christian Watson tomorrow, or wait for Brian Thomas Jr. and Marvin Harrison Jr. news? I would certainly wait out Harrison. I would not wait out Thomas. So if you have somebody that can replace Marvin Harrison in case he sits, I would go that route for sure. It's tough because they're not going to practice. The teams aren't going to practice tomorrow, right? So we're not going to get updated reports, really.

On tomorrow being Thursday. The video of Harrison looked fine. I'm guessing he's going to play. All right. Brian Thomas Jr., Parker, Washington, worthy, Gadsden. Who are your two favorites there? Yeah, that's done in Washington. Yeah, that's fine.

Should I play Joanne Jennings over Romo Dunzee or Michael Pittman? I forgot to ask this Pittman question from last game. So Jennings over Pittman or O'Donzee? I think I have Jennings one spot ahead of Pittman right now, and somebody said it in the chat earlier. And so I went and looked, it does look like it's not a great weather day in Cleveland again, shockingly. must be miserable to live there because it's just always terrible. So I wouldn't be surprised

if there's a late week downgrade for Jennings and Pittman's over him. All right, that's our next game. Pick two for Dinesh, Parker, Washington, A.J. Brown, Darnel Mooney. I'd go Brown and Parker. Yep. Okay.

All right, next game. San Francisco's at Cleveland. All right, Jamie, trend of the game. Harold Fanon Jr. had his highest route participation rate of the season in any game that David Nijoku played, 81%. David Nijoku had his lowest route participation rate of the season, 43%. Fannan had a season high, 35.3% target share, but only 20 passes.

I don't know why I'm throwing this to Jamie. Heath Harrell Fannan, Jr., this is great stuff. It's fantastic news, and he actually comes out really high in the projections this week, and the reason is because... Because they hear projections. because they generally throw 35 times a game. And they had a game where they were playing ahead and they were able to not throw the ball very much.

I don't expect that to be the case this week. I think we see Chouder Sanders throw 30 to 35 passes a game. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a 6 for 85 from Harold Fanon. He's a top 10 tied in for me. He's outside of the top 15, I think, for Dave and Jamie. So Harold Fanon Island. I hope the trend continues. You never know with the route participation rate

just because it happened one game It doesn't mean it's going to happen the next But the week before we had seen Njoku's snap share full So it's not a one week thing He played 25% of snaps last week Yeah yeah It had been falling for yeah for two weeks

And obviously it just seems like They're trending young here so Sit Purdy, start McCaffrey You got to sit Pierce all right Yes Yeah and and you know To go back to Jennings Like in three receiver leagues

I think he's fine I think you could certainly make the argument for him over O'Dunze or Pittman. I would start both those guys over him personally, but this is going to be a rough game for Purdy again. Like, he's going to be under duress, and we'll see how he handles it. I mean, obviously you trust Kyle Shanahan

to come up with a good game plan, but this pass rush is nasty. Yeah, they're projected to score about 20 to 21 points. It's, yeah, it's tough. George Kittles a start. Shigerth Sanders is a sit. We'll come back to Quinn-John Judkins, sit the Cleveland wide receivers.

You just heard the Harold fan on analysis. Uh, which DST do you prefer? Browns? I have, I think the 49ers one spot higher, but they're both top 10. Okay. Same for Jamie. Both top 10. Niners defense has not been good, but man, they have 13 sacks in 12 games.

Yeah, but this, I mean, look, if you're playing the 49ers defense, you're playing against Sheter Sanders. That's what you do. And all right, Quinn Sean Judkins. So you, hopefully they can keep the score close because in three blowout long, he has 12 in four blowout losses he has 12 or fewer carries three times but we're expecting this to be competitive I guess I mean look it is like a playoff team against a really bad team but hopefully competitive here um all right heath you have him 25th I think Jamie has him 25th

as well Dave has him 19th and jama days has him 20th so all right finish up with your thoughts on Quinn Sean Judkins this game has an over over under of 36 and a half that may go down if this weather forecast starts looking more realistic later in the week. The really only reason you're starting quenchon Judkins anymore is you hope he scores touchdowns. I'm not sure how many touchdowns the Brown score in this game. He's not really being used in the passing game very much. They said on the broadcast last week, they really want to see a little bit more from Dylan Samson down the stretch. So I think he's a really good player. I think i want to have them on my dynasty roster but he's just a high-end flex or somebody you

settle for it rb too question here let me find it sit two judkins hampton devon neil woody marks manangay sit too yeah i mean as of now i'd be starting judkins and marks and then I probably would have Hampton if he's in Neil if Hampton's out yeah I think that sounds right Monong guy's the definite sit and Hampton right now we're not projecting him so he might be it make it easy for you but if he plays sit Neil

okay so that's good context here do you like Judkins or marks better marks for me I have Judkins one spot higher Judkins or a Jaguars receiver full PPR I will take Myers and Washington over Judkins and PPR. Yeah, that sounds right. Judkins or Bucky Irving? Judkins for me.

I will probably make that adjustment and put Judkins over Bucky. Judkins or Justin Jefferson at Seattle. Just stop it. Why? What do you mean stop it? as bad as Jefferson as you're still starting Mover Jenkins

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