Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Rashee Rice, Kimani Vidal, Tetairoa McMillan (10/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

We've got a lot of tough calls in the AFC home games this week, but let's start with players we love (2:30) and players to avoid (6:45). Jamey is excited about the Lions passing game while Heath is ...pumped to start Jacory Croskey-Merritt this week. Are we avoiding Ken Walker and Tetairoa McMillan in tough matchups? ... News and notes (17:40) and One Question for Each Game (23:00)! Start or Sit Jerry Jeudy? Xavier Worthy? The Chargers wide receivers? Rico Dowdle if Chuba Hubbard is back? Kimani Vidal? Brian Thomas Jr.? ... Start or Sit for Rams-Jaguars (31:15), Colts-Chargers (38:10), Dolphins-Browns (50:30), Raiders-Chiefs (56:40), Giants-Broncos (1:04:50), Patriots-Titans (1:13:00) and Panthers-Jets (1:07:15) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Start or sit for the AFC home game, seven games to break down today.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Can Brian Thomas Jr. repeat his studly performance. Kamani Vidal, repeat his studly performance. What are we going to get from Rishi Rice this week? Is this a Jerry Judy week? Finally, is J.K. Dobbins going to bounce back? Because as someone famously once said, here come the Giants. We welcome you to fantasy football today, presented by BetMGM, make it legendary. Good morning, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You ready for week seven? Yes, sir. All right, Thursday night football. We got our start of the week tonight. Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. Heath, you ready for week seven? It's so exciting to look at the standings and see like 75% of the league is between 2 and 4 and 4 in so many of my leagues. And it's kind of like the season starts now.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's exciting. I thought you were talking about the NFL. No. Okay. Any undefeated teams, Heath? I know Jamie has won. I do not have the podcast league lost last week because I lost Puka. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Sorry about that. Okay. By the way, me, Dave, Jamie Heath, we're all like top five in scoring in the podcast league. Bring it. Let's get to some players that we love. Jamie, Jalen Warren. I talked about him yesterday. Jared Goff and Jameson Williams Monday night against Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah, I mean, Warren is in a great spot, obviously taking on the Bengals. We'll see how this goes tonight. I'm always hesitant to use the start of the week on Thursday, but we'll see how it goes. But eight running backs have scored at least 14.1 p.m. points against the Bengals, Cincinnati allowed 10 total touchdowns to the position. So Warren has, it's funny, you, uh, you talked about this before the year that Warren, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:03 I forget how many catches he had without, uh, catching a touchdown. He did that in week one. He's yet to score a rushing touchdown this year. So we'll see if he can snap that streak and finally find the end zone. But I think it's worth, you know, using Kenneth Ganywell as a flex as well, as, uh, he's talked about on Tuesday or at some point, maybe yesterday. Uh, I think we talked about on Tuesday and Wednesday. Um, they've had, so eight running backs have been at 14.1 ppr points or more. Nine running backs have been in 11.5 ppr points or more against the Bengals. So they've actually had three teams where two running backs have been in 11.5 ppr points or more.
Starting point is 00:02:36 So I think Gainwell could be a flex. He's been at nine and a half ppr points in two of his last three games, the third one being the breakout game against Minnesota. For the two lions guys, this is the setup we love for these two. Being at home in what should be a high scoring affair, Gough, give him credit. His last two games on the road, he's been over 20 fantasy points. Tampa Bay obviously has been struggling a little bit in terms of their past defense.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I know they turned over Mack Jones twice last week, but they've given up over 300 yards passing each of their last two games. So golf should have an opportunity for a big week in this matchup. And then Jameson Williams, I love the fact that he had a season high in targets last week. Finally looked like they're starting to get him going a little bit. And again, just based on the matchup and the opportunity, this should be one of the better games for Jameson Williams if the script follows as plans.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And he's typically been better at home than on the road as well. So I like the setup for both of the Lions against Tampa Bay. I'm going to give a stat that it's probably just very small sample size and doesn't matter. But it's going to make us feel better about golf. We already feel good about Jared Goff. So you look at the implied total for the Buccaneers in this game. It's around 23 points. So I looked at how does Jared Goff do at home last year?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Because it hasn't happened yet this year when the Lions give up 23 or more points. There were three instances. He scored 31 points, 28 points, and 51 points. in six point for passing touchdown leagues. So if the Bucks do their part, Jared Goff should do his part. He's averaging over 30 points per game at home. It's a little skewed
Starting point is 00:04:03 because he had the huge game against the Bears and the crappy game against the Browns. But, yeah, but right, but he has, he has that crazy high upside at home. It's exciting. All right, Heath, you love Jacori Kroski Merritt at Dallas. Kamani Vidal against the coach. and Chris Olavay at Chicago.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah, I think everybody was probably planning on starting bill. He's been kind of a low-end RB2 for us most weeks. I've got him ranked as a high-end RB2 this week. One of the best rushers in the NFL averaging 5.7 yards per carry on an efficiency basis. The Cowboys' run defense is awful, and this game has an over under of 54 and a half. You would like to start as the highest one of the year so far. You would like to start as many commanders and cowboys as possible. Kamani Vidal, I don't think you should expect another Dolphins outburst,
Starting point is 00:05:00 although it looks like I am quite a bit higher on him than Dave and Jamie. The thing that I love is the fact that he had a 67% rush share in that game. 21 total touches, and it was not close who looked better between Vidal and Haskins. There should be no doubt he's the clear number one running back and a starter on your fantasy. team this week and number three is chris olive who's averaging over 10 targets per game the bears are giving up over two fantasy points per target to opposing wide receivers that math suggests boom week for chris olive all right good stuff uh players to avoid we'll go right back to heath here chase brown tonight tony pollard against new england and darren walt
Starting point is 00:05:51 against Cleveland. So I think two of these people are like, yeah, I'd like to get away from them, but I don't know if they can. They're workhorse running backs. How do you said workhorse running backs? Chase Brown and Tony Pollard don't look like workhorse running backs anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Tai J. Spears actually played more than Pollard and was better than Pollard last week. And I think that might be like a game script thing where Pollard Spears is just in more when they're chasing the score. Guess what? They're the Titans. They're going to be chasing the score.
Starting point is 00:06:17 A lot. Chase Brown has seen his snap share, which was his best attribute last year as a player, fall to 55% in three of his last four games. Samajai P. Ryan just continues to get more work. You do not want to start Chase Brown. And Darren Waller, this is probably the most controversial of the takes. You see Dave and Jamie both have them at 7th.
Starting point is 00:06:41 You look at the Browns against tight ends, and it's like, oh, they're just middle of the pack. This is the one position that you can start against them. John O Smith, just starting tight-ins. John O'Smith, 4.8 points. T.J. Hawkinson, 9.4. Sam Laporta, 6.9, Tucker Craft, 5.9, Mark Andrews, 1.2. They've given up a bunch of points against tight-ins, not a bunch, a league average amount,
Starting point is 00:07:05 because Noah Fitzpatrick, John Fitzpatrick, Josh Oliver, and Connor Hayward, all scored touchdowns against them. The only tied-in with more than 40 receiving yards against this defense, Darnel Washington. Maybe start Julian Hill. Well, so this, we need to bring this up with Waller. He's really not a tight end. He's lined up out wide on 44% of his routes. The next highest tight end is at 25% right about. So Waller's not going to be covered like a typical tight end. I don't know if that changes anything for you. He also has the highest A dot of all tight ends who have like 10 or more targets.
Starting point is 00:07:48 He only has 12 targets, so I had to lower the threshold there. But he's just a different, he's a different player. He's basically their wide receiver two. I don't know if that means anything. Like, for example, Durbin James was not covering Darren Waller last week on a handful of occasions he was. So he's just different. Well, wide receiver twos haven't been good against the Browns either. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:08:12 All right. And for Jamie, it's Matthew Stafford in London at Jacksonville. Ken Walker against Houston Monday and Tetero McMillan putting some sauce on him. So Stafford, obviously having Devante Adams is a big difference, but you go back to last year
Starting point is 00:08:29 in the five games that he did not have Puka Nakua. He scored 14.8 fantasy points or less in each outing. So don't love the setup without Puka here. Struggled last week, obviously, when Puka left the field. And so we don't expect Puka to play. I know Jacksonville's defense has been obviously hit or miss in terms of quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:08:47 but I'm going to try to avoid Stafford if I can. In the case of McMillan, you mentioned it. Now, this is interesting because a lot of receivers have obviously faced F.A. Soss Gardner already and done okay. For the most part, they've scored around 12 or more PPR points, but it's been somewhat touchdown related. Pickens needed a touchdown, for example, to help his day against Soss. It's just one of those things where I think you just lower expectations.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I probably have them a little bit too low by comparison to everybody else. But we've seen what he has been, for the most part. He's got one game where he scored a touchdown. It was last week. He has one game over 13 PPR points prior to that. And I think we're going to see maybe in that 11 to 12 range at best if Soss follows him as probably expected. We'll see if Jalen Coker plays as well, maybe a second option there on the field. With Ken Walker, we've heard plenty of reports already that they're not going to change how they use their running back rotation.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Houston's run defense is obviously very good. So for Walker, it's a flex option at best. I would prefer to sitemificant. Let's stay on Tetaro and McBillan here. This is the last game that I have scheduled for us to talk about today, Carolina at the Jets, which means we'll get to it in about two and a half hours. Yeah, you did mention there are a lot of wide receivers
Starting point is 00:09:59 get in the 12 fantasy point range against the Jets, the ones that get shadowed by... There's the only one that did not, which was Sutton. Yeah, so you're talking about D.K. Metcalfe, who actually caught his touchdown on a different cornerback, not Gardner. Tyree Kill, six catches, 67. yards. George Pickens had the deep touchdown. He only had four targets. The thing is,
Starting point is 00:10:20 McMillan just hasn't been good this year, really. I mean, he's been okay. He scored more than 13.3 fantasy points in one game. It was last week against the best matchup in fantasy, where he had 29 yards and two touchdowns. So, I don't know, you said you might be too low on him. You have him 30th. If I were ranking, I'd be with you. Dave and Heath have him like 20th, which isn't, you know, a huge endorsement this week because wide receiver's so bad. But yeah, Heath, go ahead. Your thoughts on McMillan. I think when we say he hasn't been good this year, we should say he hasn't produced like great fantasy production. Right. Sure. Good for fantasy. Because when you shared that graphic yesterday about wide receivers and the predictivity of first downs and first downs
Starting point is 00:11:05 per route run, it was a Ted Roe McMillan tweet. I actually did not share it on this show. I just shared it with you. So people might not. We never got to it. We never got to it. I thought you said we were going to put it on the show i did i did i meant first first downs and first downs per route run are very predictive of future fantasy success ted row mcmillan's been a top 10 wide receiver in those categories he has been very good he hasn't produced a lot of fantasy points um but if he was playing a regular matchup he'd be a top 12 wide receiver for me so i have downgraded him down to wide receiver 20 I think the history of Soss Gardner so far suggests guys are going to be a little bit worse than they have been this year. So maybe he will be a little bit worse.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But if he's a little bit worse in terms of the way he's played, it's just does he score a touchdown or not? And there aren't 20 wide receivers that I feel great about this week. Okay. It looks like Quentin Johnston might play this week. How many Chargers wide receivers would you start over McMillan? Oh, I don't want to deal with that headache. Thank you. One more week off, Quentin Johnston.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Probably. All three for me. Yeah, it wouldn't be all three. It probably be Ladd and Johnston. Okay. All right. Well, that's Teddural McMillan. So number two wide receiver for Heath and Dave,
Starting point is 00:12:30 currently a number three wide receiver for James. He won't be a number two receiver. He may move up a spot or two. He'll be outside of top 25. Okay. Sunday at 8.30 in the morning. We have got a live show for you, 830 to 930 to set those lineups before the London game. Go to YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. You can see pretty much all of our content there. Click the live tab if you can't find one of our full length episodes and you'll see them there. And then after that we take a little break. We watch some football and then at 11 a.m. Eastern until noon Eastern. We, nope, sorry, from noon to 1. Why would we do 11 and noon? That would make no sense. But noon to 1, we're back. to answer your starter sit questions. And also today, at 1 p.m. Eastern, CBS Sports Network, Dave, Jamie, and Heath break it down the rankings.
Starting point is 00:13:17 We're not really necessarily going to talk trade. And Robert Turbin. Oh, and Robert Turbin. Excellent. We're not really going to talk trade today. That's the Wednesday thing. But I do have just some kind of rest of season notes on Ashton Genti, J.K. Dobbins and Stefan Diggs, among others. So I'm teasing that.
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Starting point is 00:14:22 Jacob, thank you. I will try that very, I still haven't gotten those sneezes back from Tuesday. Which is nice because you have a bright light right in front of your face. That is true. I was just looked at it. I was already looking at it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 You're right. It didn't work. Well, it did work. Did it? You didn't sneeze. No, it's supposed to help you sneeze, the bright light. That's supposed to make you not sneeze. No, it's supposed to bring the sneeze out.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Oh, didn't work. I was told the opposite. Well, look, I'm just going by what Jacob says, our emailer of the day. What about plastic? Oh, man. All right, so we have some news and notes. You know, I think we should take a break. Let's take a break.
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Starting point is 00:16:16 Brock Jones, Mac Purdy. Okay, fluid situation. We'll see. Atlanta on Sunday night. Steve Young. J.J. McCarthy, his ankle is not 100% yet. Carson Wentz practiced in full. Who are you ranking a quarterback for Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Carson Wentz. In Philadelphia. neither one no i guess wins is 22 so yeah wins kailer murray was limited we're going to keep an eye on that situation chuba hubbard is going to be back this week all signs point to that he expects to play they want to be a run heavy team we don't know what the split's going to be that game is again the last game we're talking about is kamani is sorry is uh rico dowdall a top 24 running back if tuba's back yes
Starting point is 00:17:02 he will be a low end number two running back and chuba will be a flex all right you got to decide tonight and it really looks like chuba hubbard is back this week it's so rico dowdell or uh running back tonight uh warren dowdell chase brown yeah i'll probably uh i'll i will have dowdell ahead of chase brown for sure i would say i'll probably have Warren ahead of him, too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Zonovan Knight was limited. Amardi Marquado mispractice. Cardinals up Green Bay this week. Alvin Camara mispractice, but he's fine. He's going to miss Wednesday practices, I think, pretty regularly. Okay, here we go. You know the scene in Lire Lire, where Jim Carrey gets pulled over for the speeding ticket and speaks really, really fast?
Starting point is 00:17:47 That's kind of how I envision the wide receiver notes right now. Garrett Wilson and Josh Reynolds mispractice. Josh Reynolds mispractice for the Jets. Calvin Ridley mispractice. Calvin Riddley mispractice. Calvin Austin is out tonight. Tutu Atwell was limited. for the Rams. Puku, we expect him to play. Pookanakua had not expected to play. DJ
Starting point is 00:18:03 more mispractice. Jerry Judy was limited. Hopefully he'll be fine. Darnal Mooney was limited. Maybe he makes it back this week at San Francisco Sunday night. Josh Downs is in the concussion protocol. You cannot expect to be starting Josh Downs at this point. That was a little bit of a surprise. Rishie Rice. Andy Reid didn't say how much Rishie Rice would play, but ESPN reports that Rice is going to get a full workload this week. For Arizona, Marvin Harrison Jr. was limited, but he's still in the concussion protocol. Zay Jones mispractice and Michael Wilson was limited. Jacoby Myers mispractice
Starting point is 00:18:33 with toe and knee injuries. Christian Watson was limited. Darius Slayton mispractice, not expecting him at the moment. Dave mentioned it's a little Jordan Humphrey revenge game. Don't forget about that. Quentin Johnston was limited. Jacksonville plans to get Travis Hunter more involved. You might want to see if he's available on your
Starting point is 00:18:49 waiver wire. CD Lamb was limited. I think Cavante Turpin was limited as well. We've been ranking CD Lamb. We're expecting him. Same with Mike Evans. Jalen Coker is expected to play this week. Woo! Tara McLaurin is going to practice this week. Noah Brown is on IR for Washington.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And Ricky Pearsall missed practice. Joanne Jennings was limited. While speeding! Right? That's the end of that. Can't see you. Thank you. I thought this was a good response to that section.
Starting point is 00:19:18 What was it? But I'm supposed to sit there. Yeah, not get that. You're not going to start Jerry Judy over Tedderall and McMillan, are you? no no but they're five spots apart for me you're not going to start jalen cocker over ted rowan mcmillan are you no all right uh Travis hunter no come on okay uh Kendrick born yes um as of now no assuming kittlesbeck right oh speaking of tight ends david adjoku mispractice brock bowers mispractice right now we're not expecting them
Starting point is 00:19:57 Coach Kittle practiced. We're hoping he's back. Jatavion Sanders was limited. And Tanner, okay, for Thursday night, any interest in Noah Phant now? You got Gassiki out. You got Tanner Hudson out. You got, I think,
Starting point is 00:20:09 Pittsburgh bad against tight ends, if I recall. I see. I think, I noticed why I was doing waivers. He was towards the top of the tight ends in the projections. They are bad. They give up the fourth most fantasy points
Starting point is 00:20:21 to tight ends. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if he plays well. He's a good DFS play. for those of you do Thursday nights late, but he's not at the top of my streaming list with all the guys that are available this week. All right, fine.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Offensive line, Giant Center, John Michael Schmitz, is in the concussion protocol. Dallas Guard, Tyler Booker, was limited. Dallas is getting pretty healthy. Jacksonville, hopefully they get their center, Robert Hainzy back. I was reading, I think, on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:20:45 They had a lot of trouble running the ball last week without Hainesie, but he was limited. Austin Corbett for the Panthers. He practiced in full. He has missed the last four games, so that's great news. Defensively, Trey Hendrickson is questionable
Starting point is 00:20:56 for tonight's game for Cincinnati. Philly's getting healthier. Jalen Carter practice in full cornerback. Quinion Mitchell was limited. That's big news for them as they're at Minnesota. Detroit, Brian Branch's one game suspension
Starting point is 00:21:07 was upheld, but they should be getting Aleem McNeil back. Dan Campbell said their star defensive tackle Alim McNeil is freaking playing this week. He tore his ACL last year. Tennessee defensive tackle to Vondre Sweat is designated
Starting point is 00:21:22 to return from IR. Their run defense has already gotten better. It's going to get a lot better when he comes back. And the Colts have been really bad against wide receivers, but Kenny Moore, Slot Corner.
Starting point is 00:21:32 He missed the last three games. He was limited. One question for each game. Rams are at the Jaguars this game in London. Start or sit, Brian Thomas Jr. I would start him. His last game in Wembley Stadium
Starting point is 00:21:47 was good last year, so five for 50 in a touchdown, I believe. Look good last week. Look good. Actually the last two weeks. You know, and starting to play a little bit more
Starting point is 00:21:55 like the Brian Thomas. we were hoping to see. So I think if this was a normal week, everybody healthy, he's probably a high-end number three receiver. But I think just given the fact of what he's shown the last two games and how this game could potentially unfold, number one receiver has actually done well against the Rams this year. So I think there's an opportunity for Thomas to continue that
Starting point is 00:22:12 and hopefully build off what we saw last week. I have him ranked the exact same spot that Jamie does, so everything Jamie said. McMillan or BTJ? Thomas for me. Still McMillan for me. Colts are at the Chargers. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Quentin Johnson being limited. We don't know if he's going to play, but would you start any of the Chargers-wide receivers over Kamani Vidal? If Johnston returns, no, I'd start Vidal over all of them. But if there is no Johnson, I'd go Mokanke, Vidal, Keenan. I will start Vidal over all of them. Miami is at Cleveland. Is it Jerry Judy Week?
Starting point is 00:22:56 he's got shot if not now never yeah you're on my roster for one more week jerry judy i believe uh he's a south floor kid if i'm not mistaken i can look that oh he is yeah um he's played the dolphins three times i believe two of them have been very good games okay let's see he if you still have a hundred shares of jerry judey uh six okay i'm gonna be starting him oh yeah i'll start him over two two atwell i'll start him over cameron johnston johnson and marvin mims and michael carter uh okay uh yeah that team's not doing so great you might imagine uh we've got uh las vegas at kansas city would you start a raiders wide receiver or zavier worthy worthy i might have tray tucker one spot ahead of him oh let's see i have one
Starting point is 00:23:53 Two spots ahead of Tucker. All right. Xavier worthy, it is. You know, let me just bring this up. You guys encouraged by Pacheco. What did you make of Pacheco? He got his first three snaps inside the five-yard line. He ran five routes on third down last week.
Starting point is 00:24:10 He had run a combined four routes on third down in the first five games of the season. Do you think it's because maybe Kareem Hunt got a little banged up in the game, or do you think they're giving Pacheco more work, important work? I would love to see them get Pacheco. more work just to see if he could maybe do something with it. But this is the team that gives up rushing touchdowns and little else. And if they're going to give up rushing touchdowns, it probably is going to be Kareem Hunt doing it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So I don't want to trust Pacheco just yet. It was a season high 13 touches. Yeah, no, but it was more important that he got actually on the field on downs where he can score some fantasy points. We'll see if that was just a blip. Obviously, not starting him. Yeah, if you told me that Kareem, Hunt had 50 total yards
Starting point is 00:24:55 and scored a touchdown this week. I would scored 12 fantasy points. I wouldn't be surprised. He's someone you might flex. All right. Giants are at Denver. Are you starting any giants? Scataboo. Scadaboo is a low end RB2.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Wondale's a high end wide receiver three. Scataboo or Dowdell? Assuming Chubbard plays. Probably be Scataboo. All right. The Patriots are at the Titans. Is Drake May the only must-start player in this game? Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I mean, I think Diggs is close, but number three receiver at best. So I would say May is probably the only one that qualifies. Patriot is DSD. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I guess I'll just give my quick Stefan Diggs sort of rest-of-season thing here. Last week was such a bad game for him. And I have trouble with this stat, but the Saints are actually. really, really good against slot-wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Going into the game, they were allowing the second fewest receiving yards to slot wide receivers. They did well against Wondell Robinson, Cooper Cup, now Stefan Diggs. So maybe it was a bad matchup for him. But Heath, you mentioned that first-down stat, wide receivers who gain a lot of first downs. They typically, you know, it's a good indicator
Starting point is 00:26:13 for future fantasy points. That was a Jacob Gibbs tweet citing Ryan Heath of Fantasy Points data. So I looked at the list of last year's leaders and this year's leaders and you do get some of the studs on there the pucas of the world, whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:29 But Stefan Diggs is also a name that was on there last year and this year in terms of first downs per route run. So I thought that was interesting, Heath. I will say that's very interesting and I think
Starting point is 00:26:41 don't sit him just because it's last week. He's a high-end wide receiver three for me. I also think that the total first downs are more predictive than the first downs per route run. well he's probably not that high there because he hasn't played that much because he doesn't run as many routes and you don't score as many fantasy points if you don't run as many routes but last week he had 71% route rate we would hope for for better three weeks ago he had an 82% route rate then it went down to 64%. So I would like to say by low on digs but I would say that it's just you know I don't know that people really love digs so you might be able to get them for pretty cheap and we just don't know that this offense is going to function with a true number one alpha wide receiver. it just kind of bounces around between guys depending on the matchup, which is probably a good way to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:27 All right, Carolina's at the Jets. Start or sit, Justin Fields. Low end starter for me. I can't. I got his, and this is a guy I probably have almost as much of as I have Jerry Judy. So in Super Flex leagues, obviously you're going to have to start him. I just, who's he throwing to? and can he score 20 fantasy points without throwing? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah. You want me to give my azur stat? Oh, this is some azur stat right here. So he's had three games over 29 fantasy points, right? It's three best games of the season. If you take out Garrett Wilson's production in those games, and I rounded up all three of them. So it's 10, 10, and 9.
Starting point is 00:28:11 They had like a 95-year-old game in a touchdown. So take out the yards in the touchdown. He would be averaging almost exactly 20 fantasy points per game. That's with no replacement value whatsoever. So just taking Garrett Wilson's numbers off the table. So looking at this Panthers defense, you said, can he do it without throwing the ball? I mean, he's obviously going to throw the ball. So can he cobble together, let's just say, 15 fantasy points as a passer?
Starting point is 00:28:41 And the reason I bring that number up is there have been two quarterbacks that have run for 3.4 fantasy points. or have scored 3.4 fantasy points or more with just their rushing totals loan against the Panthers. I think Fields can get there. So if you can be in that 4 to 5 point per game range, 4 to 5 points with his rushing totals, can he get you 15 or so fantasy points with his passing? I think he'll be around 20 fantasy months. But that's how I feel is like that was a lot of gymnastics to can we get him to score 20
Starting point is 00:29:16 fantasy points. Yeah, that's right. And normally I'm thinking, man, if things go right for Justin Fields, he might score 30. And now it feels like, man, if everything goes right, he might get us to 20. Well, it feels like that's where Sportsline has it. Sportsline has him sixth. Holy moly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Wow. Yeah, look, he's had big games without great receivers before. But this is the worst roster right now. My goodness. Okay, let's go to the games. Actually, Heath, we can decide Jackson, or Justin Fields, four point per passing touchdown? It would definitely be Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Okay, probably. Rams are at the Jaguars. Stat of the game. The Rams have not allowed a rushing touchdown to a running back yet. But here's good news for ETN. And something to think about for his rest of season value. His targets have gone up lately. It is directly coinciding.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Coincidence or not. I don't think coincidence with the absence of Brenton Strange. Trevor Lawrence's target percentage to tight ends has plummeted. since the strange injury and some of it's going to Travis ETN. Do you guys like Travis ETN? In fact, why don't we just talk about the two running backs? Because these are, the Jaguars have a very good run defense. The Rams, again, haven't given up a rushing touchdown to a running back.
Starting point is 00:30:31 ETS struggled last week. Are these guys easy starts, Jamie? Definitely they're starters. I like Williams better than, better than E. I think just in the case of E.N. If he doesn't score, and clearly he could, but just based on, on the track record. Like, I thought when the Ravens, for example,
Starting point is 00:30:50 got down inside the three last week, whatever it was, and Derek Henry had been playing very well. Like, they just did not let him in the end zone, you know, and they tried for sure. Baltimore did. Well, they tried with Mark Andrews last week, right?
Starting point is 00:31:02 That was when they touched. Yeah. Right. I think just in the case of how this game could go, like ETN's is a startable number two running back. But when he's been bad, he's been bad. and so I don't know if this is going to be
Starting point is 00:31:18 one of his best games. Okay. Scatterby or ETN, Heath? ETN over Scataboo, Kairn over both of them by quite a bit. I'm hopeful that maybe we see a little bump in targets for Kairn Williams.
Starting point is 00:31:31 He had one big reception game with Pooka not there to throw two. Maybe we get four catches for Kairn instead of two. Yeah. Hopeful is the way to do it. You shouldn't bank on it because last year he played five games without Puka and four and a half of those games without Cup.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And he had some games with catches and some games with like a zero. So you shouldn't be. The nice thing is he doesn't have a zero this year and he has at least two in each of his last five games. Yeah. There's also the potential of No Blake Quorum who's been limited in practice. And so do they give him all the work or do they actually mix in Dark West Hunter? How do you feel about the quarterback, Seif, Stafford and Lawrence? Who do you like better?
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't want to start Trevor Lawrence at all. Stafford is a borderline QB1. I really struggle with Stafford versus Rogers those guys in the 10-11-12 range Stafford versus Boe-Nicks Stafford versus Daniel Jones but right now I've got them as a low-end starter.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Interesting. Okay. Jamie, do you have Stafford as a starter? I do not. Again, we started the show with three players I don't like and Stafford's one. So that's a no then Okay Heath without Puka You still
Starting point is 00:32:53 All right Who are some guys Are starting Stafford over Well again I don't think it's a very good I would say there's probably 10 quarterbacks this week That I actually want to start
Starting point is 00:33:02 And Matthew Stafford is not one of them I've got them right now One spot ahead of Rogers Who's my 12th quarterback So that tells you quite a bit About the position I would start them over Knicks I would start them over Jones
Starting point is 00:33:11 I would start him over fields Okay All right and Jamie is just not feeling it, 17th for Matthew Stafford. Wide receivers, Devante Adams is an easy one. We're going to start Devante Adams. Brian Thomas Jr. is a number two wide receiver. We're going to mostly start him.
Starting point is 00:33:28 ETN or Brian Thomas Jr. Do you like better? I would go Thomas and PPR. I think I have ETN just a little bit higher. But Thomas probably has more upside. It's just hard to trust it. Yeah, UTN for me. who are the sleepers in this game
Starting point is 00:33:46 Jordan Whittington if there's no 2-2 Atwell I would agree if 2-2 Atwell plays I would take Atwell over Whittington Is there why? I think there's going to be opportunities
Starting point is 00:34:00 for him to be on the field and when he's been on the field and gotten targets he's been productive and he is a kind of a big play machine and Higby too yeah we'll talk about Higbyn's 7 so Atwell last year his big play rate
Starting point is 00:34:12 is explosive play rate 25.8 percent. So 26% of his targets ended up in big plays, which I think is 17 or more yard catch. Pooka Nakua was 26.4 percent. So they were almost even and Tutu Atwell was seventh best among wide receivers with 50 or more
Starting point is 00:34:27 targets. The Jaguars give up almost I think the Cowboys are the only team that consistently give up more big plays than the Jacksonville Jaguars. So in that respect it's a good matchup for Atwell, not that he's a must start by any means. Heath, you
Starting point is 00:34:43 prefer Whittington? I think right now I do. Let's see what Tutu's health status is later in the week. Okay. And then Higby, in a week full of good tight-end sleepers, where did he end up in your rankings, Jamie? Higby. He's around like tight-in 16 or 17.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He's not a lot of confidence, obviously, because he's had one good game, but there's an opportunity here against the defense that I think can have, he could have some success again. So he's in that low-end streaming conversation. I'd put him ahead of no offense, but that's, you know, not saying very much. So, like, Fannin's ahead of him. I'm struggling between him and mayor just because of the matchup for mayor. But, like, I take Ingram over him, for example, if given the choice.
Starting point is 00:35:25 But I think Higby's a great streaming option if you're stuck. All right. That's pretty much it for this game. The Rams DST. I really hate this week for DSTs because some of the good ones have bad matchups like the Rams. Jacksonville, they are a pretty tough matchup. They're 11th against DSTs. They did get sacked seven times last week, but before that, they really weren't giving up a lot of sacks.
Starting point is 00:35:42 but you're going to start the Rams DST. I have a few comments for this game. Stafford or Lawrence? I think we answered that. Stafford. I'm not so far off. Lawrence has played very well the last two weeks. His fantasy production has been good in the last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So wouldn't surprise me if Lawrence is better. I probably would still start Stafford, but they're closer. Stafford, Purdy, or McCarthy? Purdy if he starts. Purdy if he starts. Gough, Rogers, or Stafford? In that order. I'd go golf
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah Heath would go golf Stafford Rogers Jamie would go golf Rogers Stafford All right next game Colts at Chargers Ooh I've got a fun
Starting point is 00:36:23 little surprise for you guys Let's break out the tier maker Yes We're gonna put players in the chat It's not really surprised Surprise I was talking to the audience Jamie All right so if you're watching
Starting point is 00:36:35 We've got five tiers And we've got basically Every player in this game Tier 1 is going to be what That must start Not even a question Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, who's in Tier 1?
Starting point is 00:36:44 Jonathan Taylor's in Tier 1. Anyone else? I feel like if we're putting Jonathan Taylor in Tier 1, he should be by himself. Two can also be guys for starting. Based on your rankings, I feel like, am I wrong, Justin Herbert?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Well, I think Taylor deserves to be in Tier 1 by himself. Okay. Tier 2 is going to be an interesting one. All right. Oh, Tyler Warren's in Tier 1, right? No, not this week. You're not sitting, Tyler Warren.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I know he's got a tough. No, I don't think tier two you're sitting. Okay, so tier two is must start, but not, not. Tier one is you're counting on this guy to win you your week. Okay. Tier two is must start. So we'll throw time, we're good with Warren and tier two. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And Herbert. And I'd say Vidal. And I would say Pittman. Oh, wait, wait just a minute there. Not sure if he's going to. Josh Downs there, yes, 100%. Heath is very low on Michael Pittman. It was late last night, I think, or mid last night.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I haven't updated with Josh Downs out yet. I don't know that I'll get Pittman quite that high, but I wouldn't argue too much. He's probably going to be a tier three guy for me. Okay. But he can't be the only wide receiver because that means he's the best wide receiver in this game. He can't be the only one in tier two, Jamie. So, again, are we saying Johnston is in or Johnston is out? Yeah, that's a tough one here.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I think, look, I think let's rank him as if Johnston's in. Because if Johnson's out, we know that Ladd-McConkey is a Tier 2 guy at that point. Like, he is an absolute must-start. And Keenan Allen would get a bump, too. Although, I mean, you've got to look at Keenan Allen. The yards are just not there for him. It's like he better score a touchdown. But this is a much harder game if Quentin Johnston plays.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So if Quentin Johnston plays, where are we putting the Chargers-wide receivers? If Quinn Johnson plays, I think you put all three in Tier 3. and Michael Pittman in tier three. I love that, but all four wide receivers in tier three. Which means what to you exactly? Maybe starts. I don't know which of these guys is going to be better. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I mean, realistically, Johnston, Pittman, McConkey, and Keenan Allen are going to be started in certainly more than half the leagues, probably 70% or higher. That's exactly the number of I would say. All four of these guys are probably going to be 70% started or more. And do we put Vidal in two or three? I'd been in two. I think Vidal for the purpose of what this week is, he goes into. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So we feel more confident in Kamani Vidal than we do the wide receivers, basically, is what we're saying here. Yeah, you asked the question before, and we told you that, yeah. I know. But look, I mean, that was honestly 30 minutes ago. But, no, 20. Yeah, but it changes because I think one of you said if Johnston's out, you're going to start McConkey over Vidal. Yes. I put McConkey in Tier 2 if Johnston was out.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Correct. Now, what's the deal with Warren? If you have Warren, you don't need to look for replacements, but the Chargers have been elite against tight ends. This is, you know, Kelsey, 47 yards and a touchdown. Bowers, 38 yards. Ertz, one target, Waller, three targets caught a touchdown. Theo Johnson did catch a touchdown, but they've been really, really good.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But he's Tyler Warren, obviously. All right, now, before we get to Daniel Jones, I do want to ask you about Herbert because he had a solid game against the Dolphins and the Colts have not really been a tough matchup at all. They haven't stopped any good quarterbacks. But I don't, I don't know. I don't really like roll out of bed feeling that good about Justin Herbert right now with the state of their offensive line. And I don't think he's, he just hasn't been that good. Like before last week, you had three straight games with less than 17 fantasy points. And last week he played the Dolphins. Well, so the way that I kind of view this passing game with Johnston or without
Starting point is 00:40:35 Johnston. I don't think Vidal is going to be as good. He was great against Miami. And yes, the Colts matchup is not that difficult. But I also think that it's going to be tougher for him because that defense is better. So I would expect a little bit more out of
Starting point is 00:40:52 Justin Herbert this week. And so I think he has one of his better games. Now, does that mean he's close to what he was in weeks one and two? He was MVP level at that point. I think he's probably in that 22 to 24 point per game rate. So the floor is what we got last week. It's just so hard when a guy that
Starting point is 00:41:12 we think is very talented and is throwing 36 passes a game to not rank him as a must start. There was a couple of bad weeks. Definitely had some touchdown problems, three straight weeks with just one touchdown. But I think he's probably going to throw for more than 250 yards and throw two touchdown passes. And that's a pretty close to a must start quarterback. okay I kind of like Daniel Jones this week do you guys no no all right what tier is he go again four tier four maybe starter okay so Daniel Jones 16th for Jamie 14th for Heath 10th for Dave coming off a big game against Arizona it's fine we'll just you guys can sit him um just for what it's worth he has not been good on the road his fantasy production has not
Starting point is 00:42:03 stopping it on the road. And the Chargers have been very good against quarterbacks. The Chargers, yeah, fifth best against quarterbacks. Bo Nix, they held to 15.4 points. Jaden Daniels, 19.1, 2a, 8.6. You're absolutely right. It is a tough matchup. Stafford, Lawrence, and Daniel Jones. Who's your favorite? Jones. Stafford for me. Okay. It would be Stafford at Puka Place. All right, but that's kind of where they're at. They're just not enthused about him.
Starting point is 00:42:32 All right, so it gives us, so Thomas, let's throw Daniel Jones in tier four. Let's throw Hassan Haskins in tier five. Yeah. What about Oranda Gadsden? I think Gadsden belongs in tier four. With the 17 other maybe starters in tight end. It's tough. Well, I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Gadsden belongs in tier four if Johnston is out. If Johnston plays, then Gadsden's tier five. And then the last one is a tough one. Obviously, he has to play because he's at the concussion protocol right now. But where would you put Josh Downs? Tier 4. Yeah, I'd probably have Downs and Pitman in Tier 4 if Downs was playing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So should we talk about Pittman a little bit more? I mean, Heath, I know what you're concerned is. I mean, the targets just haven't really been there for him. And he just had a terrible game and he didn't score. So that's that's it, right? I mean, just- 41 or fewer receiving yards in four of us. last five games.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Wow. He does have four touchdowns. But if Downs is out, then you just probably forget about that and assume that he's going to have. He's got two games this year with more than six targets. Six targets does not make a must-start fantasy wide receiver. But I would assume if Downs is out,
Starting point is 00:43:48 he's going to have more than six targets, and he's going to be someone you start. All right. I'll go back to, you know, I like narratives. USC guy last time he played in Los Angeles earlier this season in week four. He had 10 targets in that game.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So they were trying to get him clearly involved. involved, number one receivers against the Chargers this season. The great Marquise Brown, Cortland Sutton, Debo Samuel, and Jalen Waddle. I only bring on Markees Brown because he had a billion targets in that game in Brazil. 15 and a half PPR points or more against his defense. Yeah. So that's, yeah, I mean, that's like, you're talking about the Chargers against wide receivers, right? The Chargers against number one wide receivers have been bad, and Pittman clearly will be the number one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And if we're going based on how teams approach the chargers, we see the targets down for the tight ends. And so if the targets are down for Warren and there's no Josh Downs, obviously Daniel Jones is going to lean on Michael Pippman. Okay. Fair enough. I'm losing a little faith in Keenan Allen. I don't know how you guys feel about that. Three straight games, I think, under 60 yards. Two of those games way under 60 yards.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Targets haven't gone away, though. Yeah. he's been pretty touched he's been kind of like pitman with more targets but like just very touchdown dependent see who would we start over him how about some running backs versus keenan allen would you start Travis etn or keenan allen you know it's just really hard why don't we why don't we talk about this tomorrow when we get another quentin johnson update because it changes everything and and i think like to say that he's not really been like the last two of the last three games have been like Michael Pittman, but he's still at 58 or more yards and four
Starting point is 00:45:33 of six games this year and three of his last five. Yeah, I guess I just meant the touchdowns really help both. Right. It's, you had three in the first three weeks and zero in the last three. I don't know how predictive that is. I think it's probably 50-50. Would you start a DST in this game? Colts has a low-end starter just because of the Chargers offensive lines, so they'll probably get some sacks, but I would prefer to avoid. I certainly would prefer to avoid the Chargers. I mean, The one thing about the Colts, they don't turn the ball over. Three turnovers on the season, I believe, or four at most. I think it's three interceptions and one fumble or maybe two interceptions and one fumble.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And they don't give up sacks. I think it's five sacks allowed on the season. Yeah. So it's not a great matchup for the Chargers. And they were great last week. Three interceptions against Tua, but this is one I think you get away from. I would just say this about the Chargers receivers. Like the Colts have been bad against wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yes. Yes, they are getting Kenny more back. Well, maybe getting Kenny Moore back. But you're absolutely right. Third most fantasy points allowed to receive. receivers. I don't think their defense is that good. It was good statistically, but I think Arizona with Jacoby Percette put up a pretty big number. Anyway, I will call my shot and say, I think Daniel Jones is going to do well, but I totally understand where you guys are coming from.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And the reason I think the reason he's having such a good season is he is the least sacked quarterback, his sack rate, and he's one of the most blitzed quarterbacks. It's not just the offensive line. The offense lines is good, but he's also making good decisions this year, getting rid of the ball. That's a number that really jumps out because that guy. I wish I knew what the secret sauce was of, is Daniel Jones going to be participating in the running game or not? Because Jamie mentioned he's been bad on the road. He's also, those are the games he didn't run.
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Starting point is 00:48:14 We are back. Miami's at Cleveland. Stat of the game number one, the dolphins have allowed 16.1 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in five straight games. Ramandre Stevenson, James Cook, Reese Hall. go dowdell and Kamani Vidal. Do you think Quinn Sean Judkins will score 16.1 or more, PPR fantasy points? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Okay, he is Tier 1 then. We don't need the tier maker for that. Start of the game number two, the Dolphins have allowed 65 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in five of six games. Woo! Oh, man, you wouldn't start Harold Fandon over Tyler Warren, would you? No. I believe they're back-to-back for me.
Starting point is 00:48:51 All right, but we like Harold Fandon. Where is he in the rankings? Heath Fanninner over everyone. I think he's eight. All right, start him. Which dolphins are you starting confidently? For Heath, it's probably going to be two guys for Jamie three. A.
Starting point is 00:49:06 A. Chan and Wattle. A. Chan and Waddle. And? Waller. Okay. Do you want to say anything about Wally? You have faith in Waller this week? No, I think you said it.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I mean, he's not a traditional tight end. So with what this team looks like right now, how I expect this game to be. I don't think this is not a A. Chan's going to run well game. This is an A. is going to have to be effective in the passing game. And so I don't think the dolphins are like chasing points at the scoreboard, but I think they're playing from behind. And so based on that, I think Walters' targets will be closer to where they've been prior
Starting point is 00:49:37 to last week, you know, five or six. The tight end with the highest A dot is not my friend. I hate that. And I don't like really a high A dot against the Brown's pass rush. And I think like most tight ends have to score a touchdown to be good for fantasy. especially guys that are outside the top three or four and the dolphins like for the first time all year the Browns are favored
Starting point is 00:50:01 the dolphins have an implied total of 18 and it's a really tough matchup for Achan I mean this team is incredible against running backs they were great against Jacobs they were great against Henry they were great against good against Jordan Mason good against the Steelers guys
Starting point is 00:50:20 the only guys that really got them the only guy was Gibbs You can't sit A-chan, but it could be his worst game. Okay, on the other side of the ball, Judkins is a must start. Where's Judy this week? Yeah, where's Judy this week, Heath?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Wide receiver 40-ish, maybe closer. It's somewhere between 36 and 40. I don't really understand it, but it's kind of a thing that's going around the entire Brown's offense right now, is they just drop so many passes. And Judy's had plenty of opportunities. He gets eight targets in a lot of games.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I think he had 13 last week. But he's playing terrible football right now and visibly frustrated about it. Hopefully he catches the ball. He doesn't really do any good to have terrible coverage and be wide open if you're still going to drop it. Yeah, no, he had a couple of drops last week. The team had a lot of drops last week.
Starting point is 00:51:18 They really let Dylan Gabriel down. He also, Judy, had a chunk play. probably about 20 yards called back on a penalty but he had those 13 targets and the joke was probably not there right yeah nojoku's out most likely so fanning
Starting point is 00:51:32 Jamie who are some guys you'd start fanning over I'd start him over Kelsey I'd start him over Waller I'd start him over LaPorta I'd start him over Goddard and start him over a lot of guys I mean 14 targets in his last two games obviously a big spike game
Starting point is 00:51:48 last week after nojoku got hurt early in the game dolphins are terrible against tight ends. Like, this should be a great game for Harold Fano. Just to that Brown's point, Trevor Lawrence leads all quarterbacks this year with 16 passes dropped. Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel have had 20 passes dropped. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah. Wild. I mean, they throw a lot, so that's good. But that's wild. Good point. Good stat. Heath has Fanon ahead of Tucker Kraft. Jamie has them back to back with Kraft one spot higher.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Okay. Is there anything I'm missing in this game? Like, Tua, any interest in Tua? No. I mean, coming off the disappointing game he just had and now having to face the Browns. I mean, this is the Mike McDaniel gets fired game. You know, you hate to say that, but after everything that's unfolded, they lose this game. I can't imagine he survives. So he had to backtrack off of what he said last week. Like, this is just disaster in Miami right now. Absolute disaster. I think they're going to fire their defensive coordinator. There was a report that Ross is not firing McDaniel, right? Like, maybe he will.
Starting point is 00:52:58 They live for the Browns and depending on in what fashion. I don't have Tua as the highest ranked left-handed quarterback in this game. Oh, thank you for saying that. This is the first matchup between two left-handed quarterbacks in 19 years. And we're going to get another one next week, Tua versus Pettix. so yeah we're scheduled to have one all right yeah if there's any questions in the chat about this game fire away um okay here we go here's one judkins dowdell javanti and henderson start two well one should not be in the conversation um it would be judkins and javanti for me very easily
Starting point is 00:53:40 yes we're gonna even if there's no tubba hub or that would be the answer So if there was no Chuba Hubbard, it would be Doudal and Judkins. You'd start Douddle over Javante? I think I have Daudel over Javante right now. Interesting, because you love Javent. I'd start Dauver. I'd start Doudal over, well, whatever. I'm pretty sure Chuba's going to play. They're all three in my top seven.
Starting point is 00:54:05 So it's like without Chuba. So with Chuba, Doudal's going to fold. But yeah, I like Doudal as well, but I think Javent. Fanon or Kraft is a question. Heath has Fanon. Jamie has craft one spot ahead. of Fanon. How about this one? Fanon or Kittle? Kittle. Kittle.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Kittle. Okay. A. This is a good one. A. Chan or Rashad White? Still A. Chan. Yep. All right. Next game. What do we got? Oh, DST? You like the Brown's DST?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Very much, though. Yes. Okay. Las Vegas is at Kansas City. All right, so here's a kind of rest of season Ashton Genti note. Stad of the game. Genti has only three games. with more than two targets, and two of them have been without Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:54:51 He has had by far his two highest target shares of the season, with Brock Bowers being out. But Gino Smith's tight-end target rate was low in one of those games and high in the other, like he's threw to Michael Mayer last week, and he's still threw to Gentie. But my point is, he's only had one great game, and it was against the Bears, one of the best matchups. We were worried about him earlier because he wasn't catching any passes.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm just wondering if we're looking at maybe a time to sell Ashton Genti. The schedule's not really great. They've got to buy next week. You know what I'm saying? Bowers comes back. Did the catches go away? Thoughts, rest of season, Heath? I still think he's a borderline RB1 rest of season.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And I think like the way you framed it, he's only had one great game is true. But after that great game, he scored, what, 15.15.9 points against the Colts. and then the next week he scored 16.6 against the Titans. Like, it's three straight games at least 15.9 PPR fantasy points. I feel pretty good about that guy. I think if you're selling Gentie, it's got to be for superstar. And so, like, if you're looking at a team that needs running backs and you have them and you need wide receivers and they have them, like, could you turn Gentie into Puka right now with the, two-week absence of puka.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, I mean, well, no, Genti has a buy next week, so. Well, they both do, but that's what I'm saying, like, you know, that's the type of thing you explore, I guess, if you're in those, in those rare situations. But, I mean, again, if you're giving up on what Genti has been and still could be, like, you've got to get something amazing in return. He hasn't really been that good, is what I'm saying. I mean, the first three games were terrible. But that's also a rookie running back getting, you know, ramped up.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's also a bad situation. It's a crappy team with a bad offensive line. And, you know, one of the games where Heath had, he said he had 15.9 points, he had five catches in that game. My point is, is that going to still be on the table when Bowers comes back? I think it's... How many catches you have last week? Two.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Okay, so I think that's probably better indication because mayor played. Yeah. I had 23 carries last week. They won, right? They played Tennessee. They won. You know, so, all right, look, fine. They threw 23 passes last week
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah, but you go back to the Chicago game And since then, Gino's not been throwing the ball very much Like they're scared of Gino Yeah, me too I don't think they're going to have the option To just run the ball this week Who will be starting in this game? Las Vegas at Kansas City
Starting point is 00:57:30 Uh, Mahomes, Rice, I would still start worthy Kelsey's a low end starter still Chiefs DST and Genty Adam, when you said the, I agree with all that, I think Michael Mayer is probably the hardest player to rank, and then I would start Tucker over Myers, Tucker is a wide receiver three. When you said the Rashi Rice ESPN report, yeah, I thought I read they were going to give him a heavy workload as soon as possible. I'll go, I can say this week or as soon, I'm a little lower on Rice. He's a, he's still a number two wide receiver. for me. I'm still starting him in most places.
Starting point is 00:58:15 But I do think it's worth remembering. It wasn't just the suspension. He did have fairly significant knee injury and hasn't played football for more than a year. We've seen a lot of guys come back from injuries a little bit slow. He hasn't practiced until this week for a month and a half. Okay, well, this is from either Gratziano or Fowler. The chiefs won't be easing Rishi Rice back into action. They will be allocating a heavy.
Starting point is 00:58:42 workload for him as soon as possible. Well, did you hear Andy Reid's answer? And then, hold on, and there's a team source says Rice will be, quote, full bore this week. Oh, okay. There we go. I didn't see that one. Yeah. Did you hear Andy Reid's answer about that? I thought he kind of was non-committal on it. He said, just go ask Jeremy Fowler.
Starting point is 00:59:04 That's so funny. All right, yeah, so Rishi Rice, I mean, is tough to rank, I think, if people are going to have questions. So where do you have them, Jamie? Heath says, got him as a number two. I have them, I think, 13, 12 or 13. Like, I'm not, like, we've been waiting for this for six weeks. Like, I'm starting him wherever I have them.
Starting point is 00:59:23 This is an easy guy to start over Tedd-Role McMillan, right? Yes. I think I've got maybe one spot higher. Oh, okay. I think this game has some tough questions here. I mean, Trey Tucker or Jerry Judy? Tucker for me. I think you could safely say Tucker.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It wouldn't surprise me if Judy's better, but, like, you know, we are still talking about a guy that's got one great game and a few duds. He's been better than Judy, so that's easy to qualify it that way. Why is it Michael Mera a must start? Chiefs have been good against tight ends, and we're talking about a guy that just had five targets. He had seven, I haven't missed seven targets. I'm sorry. They threw 22 passes, right?
Starting point is 01:00:03 So you figure they're going to have to throw them more. Right. Well, Heath, you have basically a must start. You have Math, Michael Mare. Yeah, that ate through. 12 range is fluid. Oh, you have a 10th. I'm sorry, 10th now.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Like I said, it just changed. That was 8th yesterday. It's 10th. Jamie has Mayor 16th. He's a good option. But so is Kate Otten. So is Evan Ingram. So is Zach Ertz.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I mean, it's kind of a deep, tight end week. Oh, you did it. Yeah, I know. Mahomes is, I think, could be one for you guys, one or two, something like that. Yeah, so how about is worthy clearly better
Starting point is 01:00:40 than Trey Tucker this week in your mind? I would prefer to start the guy associated with Patrick Mahomes than the guy associated with Gino Smith. I agree with that, but I also think they're kind of the same guy. I have a few questions here from the chat. Xavier Worthy or T. Higgins? Worthy. How about Xavier Worthy or Jalen Warren?
Starting point is 01:01:05 I'd go Warren. I have those guys very close. I think it's probably safer. It's definitely safer to go Warren. worthy or sorry mayor or or Mason Taylor Mason Taylor for me
Starting point is 01:01:19 I've got mayor hire like if you want to talk a guy that's going to get every target in the game it might be yeah worthy or Tederoa McMillan I'd go worthy
Starting point is 01:01:30 I'd go McMillan I had my kids had baseball practice last night and I had a hitting coach come to work with them team and the first thing he said to me he goes
Starting point is 01:01:38 Mason Taylor 39 and a half yards that's an easy over I hope so If you were going to take a shot on If you had to Deeper League injuries or whatever On another wide receiver
Starting point is 01:01:49 In this game Myers Markis Brown Juju Tyquan Thornton Who's the best? Myers Myers
Starting point is 01:01:57 And then To pick your next Chiefs receiver Because they haven't been that bad I said this the other day Like I'm very curious to see One of them is probably going to be inactive
Starting point is 01:02:06 You know so Thornton, Juju Markis Brown It'd be surprising if it's Markis Brown So is Thornton or Juju inactive? I could be wrong, but, you know, my guess is that does Juju play special teams? I'm going to guess no.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I don't think so. Thornton might. Yeah, Markey's Brown's the answer if I had to start one of the other Chiefs wide receivers. Here's a good question. Worthy or Quentin Johnston? Johnston, if you play. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:33 All right, and the Chiefs DST, as of yesterday, only 78% rostered. They're top six for everyone. You should start them. Giants are at the Broncos. I have the run. I'm sorry. Oh, no. All right. Hey, we can do this. Giants are at the Broncos.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Broncos are seven-point favorites. Here is a kind of concerning note on Dobbins. In his first game without offensive guard, Ben Powers, who's out a while. He's on IR. I think it's kind of a two-monthish timetable. It could be a long-term injury for powers. J.K. Dobbins had his highest percentage of carries for zero or negative yards. he had his first game
Starting point is 01:03:12 with zero explosive runs he had had two explosive runs in every game had zero he had his worst game the replacement for Ben Powers Matt Pert committed three penalties so for this week here come the Giants
Starting point is 01:03:23 they have terrible run defense but your thoughts on J.K. Dobbins maybe it was just a fluke you know this one bad game but this guy who catches one pass a game I do not like the profile very much because he catches one pass a game and half of his
Starting point is 01:03:39 games he's got 14 or fewer carries so you really need that rushing touchdown he should be someone that you rank quite a bit differently in full ppr than you do in non non he's more of a must start full ppr he's more of a low end rb two would you start wondale robinson or jerry judy oh one deal Wondale Robinson or Jacoby Myers? Wondale. Wondale Robinson or Trey Tucker? I have Tucker one spot higher. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Dobbins or Scadaboo? As of right now, I have Scataboo one spot higher only in full PPR. Everything else, it would be Dobbins. Right. Yeah, because Dobbins, again, not giving you the catch us. But this should be a good setup. Home favorite. Against the Giants' run defense,
Starting point is 01:04:35 there should be a good setup for J.K. Dobbins. But you'd start Judkins over him, right, obviously. Oh, by a mile. Would you start? Sorry, let me take a look. Just give a good name. Bill, you like Bill. Bill over Dobbins.
Starting point is 01:04:51 How about Jordan Mason against the Eagles or Dobbins? He is right in that same range with Scataboo and Dobbins. I would start Mason. all right but these are good RB2s this week Scataboo I mean scored 31 points last week
Starting point is 01:05:11 Denver not an amazing run defense but they give up to fourth few as fantasy points to running backs I don't know Scadaboo's insane well that that part is
Starting point is 01:05:22 undeniable I get so uncomfortable watching he and Jackson Dart run because it just looks like they're trying they're trying to get hurt Yeah. Yeah, I feel that. Especially Scatamu. Some questions from the chat.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Cortland Sutton, who I assume is an easy start this week, or Ashton Genty. So, yeah, I've got Sutton at wide receiver 15, I think, 14.7 points. I've got Gentie at 15.5, so I'd go Gentie. Any news on Slayton yet? He did not practice on Wednesday. Would his, if he plays, would that change anything for you with Wondale, with anyone? That would downgrade Wondale for me from a high end wide receiver 3 to a low end wide receiver 3. He'd probably still be ahead of Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Quentin Johnston or Wondale Robinson? Quentin Johnston. It's no many place. Any interest in little Jordan Humphrey who had eight targets last week? It is a revenge game. It is. So, no. okay anyone else ingram and i also i don't think there's any tea in little jordan
Starting point is 01:06:34 you call them little jordan oh yeah sorry little jordan and he's huge he's six four yeah theo johnson's a sit yeah oh yeah how do you feel about evan ingram this week and we got talk about bo necks i got a lot to say about bo necks how do you feel about ingram i am not really interested in evan ingram i like you do have these games where he gets seven targets. Seven targets is for Evan Ingram's like seven carries for most running backs. Yeah. Probably going to get you around 30 or 40 yards.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I actually had one game with seven targets. He's got two of six. But he has three straight games with six or seven targets. And he has 42, 33, and 29 yards in those games. Right. But he has four, four, and five catches. So in full PPR, you're probably getting a seven point floor. I mean, we never know what a guy's actual floor is.
Starting point is 01:07:26 But I think it's fair to say. that with Ingram. No one's too high on him. I mean, the highest, Dave and Jamie have Ingram around 16th, so no one's that high on him. But he's got the revenge factor. I think he played the Giants once, I think, with the Jaguars, had about 10 panacy points. Interest in Troy Franklin or Marvin Mims in this game? I still prefer Franklin, but no, it's gotten too jumbled up the last couple of weeks.
Starting point is 01:07:50 We had a two or three week stretch where it looked like Franklin was the guy. He's wide receiver 40-ish for me. I would start Jerry Judy over Troy Franklin. Start or sit, Bo Nix. I don't want to start Bo Nix. I think you might have to. I've got him one spot ahead of Justin Fields. I would start him over Daniel Jones, but he's not a top 12 quarter wreck.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Okay, I broke down Bo Nix a little bit yesterday, and I separated him into three timeframes. One is 2024 full season. One is 2025 full season, or the first six. games. The other is the last nine games of 2024 when he went off. And I didn't even include Week 18 when he scored a billion points against the Chiefs backup. Some A's stating. So you look at the 17 game paces. You look at the stats. Right now, Bo Nix is not playing anything like he played in those last nine games. That was an, you know, that was an unrealistic to repeat kind of stretch. But if you look at full season 2025 versus full season 2024, or, you know, first six games
Starting point is 01:08:53 versus full season. It's not that different. He's just a little bit off, like completion percentage a little bit lower. Yards per attempt, a little bit lower. Yards per carry, a little bit lower. Touchdown rate, a little bit lower.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It seems like he's about one good game away from being back to what he did last year when he was a top 10 quarterback. I think he's close. I didn't draft him at all because I said, you know, he's basically the beginning of a huge tier and I don't want him.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And, you know, we've been rewarded for that. But I don't, I'm not that down. on Bo Nix, Heath. I think he's fine. Fine is a fine way to describe him. With big upside, because the Giants give up a lot of big plays. And he has missed on those big plays, but like just barely. I mean, I like it more than Fields this week.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I know, I think Jamie's got him like back to back, but. Yeah, I've got him ahead of Fields. Let's see, who else? Bo Nix or Daniel Jones? You know, I really feel like I said, I would start him over fields. I would start him over Jones. Sorry. Um, Bo Nix or, uh, Jordan Love.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I'll go love. Bo Nix or, hmm, ha, I've got Rogers tonight over Nix. I go Nix. I don't get it. I wouldn't argue that one strongly. Yeah, you haven't been a lot of good fantasy quarterback performances against the Giants. No, but the Giants, oh, there you go, it's that of the game. Giants give up 19 points per game at home,
Starting point is 01:10:25 29 points per game on the road. I don't know, maybe fluky. The Giants can get after the quarterback. So this team should have a good offensive line, although last week the replacement for Ben Powers, Matt Pert, was terrible, and he committed three penalties. But the Broncos should handle the Giants, we think.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Denver's DST is top three. Giants' DST. Heath does not like them, but Jamie and Dave have them kind of low-end, like probably just not a great week for DSTs, but I wouldn't want to start them. The Patriots are at the Titans. I think this game's a pretty simple one to break down.
Starting point is 01:11:00 So do it. Start Drake May. Yeah. No. Like, looking at the running backs, I would start, Ramondre is my favorite running back in this game. I think it's pretty close to a toss-up between Henderson and Pollard.
Starting point is 01:11:21 and Taije is kind of a dart throw. Looking at the wide receivers, Diggs is the only one that you're considering starting. If you have to start a Titans wide receiver, I'm sorry. Kishon Booty is a top 48 guy, but just barely. Hunter Henry? Hunter Henry is a borderline top 12 tight end. I think I've got him 13th.
Starting point is 01:11:48 How about Chico Conquo? Chico Oconquo has scored 8.8. He scored 8.8 or more PPR fantasy points in three of his last four games. I actually have him one spot ahead of Henry. So Alconquo is one of the 17 tight-in streamers available. He doesn't have the route participation rate that you'd like to see. They use Gunner Helm as well. So we talked about like desperation, you know, Marquise Browns of the world and all that.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Do you see a guy in this game, whether it's Booty or Van Jeffer, or Ellick I.O. Manor, assuming Calvin Ridley's out. Is there a guy in this game that could get me double-digit fantasy points? So in the projections, I have Van Jefferson the highest of that group, because when Ridley went down, he just kind of came in and took the Ridley targets and played the Ridley role. I would think if they have a full week where they know, or thinking that Ridley is not going to play, they would draw up some more plays for ELEC. And so I have him one spot ahead of Van Jefferson, both of them ahead of Booty.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I have some questions about this game from the chat, but before we do that, how much do you like Drake May? Who would you start him over? You're actually the low guy on Drake May. Well, of course I am. But I would start him over Jared Gough. I would start him over Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I would start him over any of the guys who've been talking about, Stafford, Rogers, Knicks, Fields, those guys. I'd start him over Jalen Hertz. Over golf and Mayfield, huh? Wow. Look, he's actually, May has had a lot of success with this type of performance
Starting point is 01:13:17 that I'm about to say, but he could throw 25 passes in this game. Yeah, and I have him, I'm the low guy on him, and I have him sixth. So I don't think that I'm unique in having him over those guys. I'm sorry, I thought you had him eighth. You do have him sixth.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Okay, Dave and Jamie also have him over golf and Baker Mayfield. Wow. All right, I think I'm going to take golf and Mayfield over May, but obviously they're all in stars. Mike is dismayed that you're dissing Drake May. Well, we're definitely taking him over Justin Fields. that's for sure.
Starting point is 01:13:49 All right. Chat questions for this game. E.O. Manor or Luther Burden? I would go I-O-Manner. If Moore is out? If. If DJ Moore were out, would you take Burtt? We don't have DJ Moore ranked right now.
Starting point is 01:14:03 And you're still going ELEC? Okay. And you're going ELEC. We don't have Ridley ranked either. ELEC Iow Manor or a Broncos number two receiver. I'll take I.O. Manor for now. Keenan Allen, Golden, Bourne. this is not for this game
Starting point is 01:14:18 but we'll answer it anyway you have to sit one Kenan Allen Matthew Golden or Kendrick Bourne Golden is the toughest guy for me to rank this week I actually think he's going to have a good game
Starting point is 01:14:28 I would still sit golden and Henry Hunter Henry or Taysam Hill thanks Ben you know I feel like Ben should get more questions answered after you were so rude to him before the Saints beat the Giants
Starting point is 01:14:44 but I would go with Hunter Henry and just to wrap it up I mean a lot of you have Tony Pollard and you know have been starting him just just don't do it
Starting point is 01:14:56 first of all it's a terrible matchup secondly he's just in a back he's in a committee now he had 10 carries last week if they're winning he'll have more but they're seven point dogs
Starting point is 01:15:07 and finally Carolina is at the Jets okay it's out of the game Carolina in their last two games, they have held Devon A-chan and Javante Williams to a combined 23 carries for 45 yards. I read an article about this from their website.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Dave Canales, their head coach said the team is setting the edge well. It was a long story about how much better their run defense has gotten. Yep. What do you think? Is Breeze Hall without Garrett Wilson, was Breeze Hall an easy start for you this week? Or are you worried? What do you think?
Starting point is 01:15:40 The hope is that without Garrett Wilson, Brees Hall is going to see more targets. He's been fantastic hull. Not necessarily in fantasy production, but just the way he's running the football. He's a top 12 running back for me. I'm starting him.
Starting point is 01:15:58 So if Hubbard's out, you're starting Douddle over Brees. And if Hubbard's in, you're starting Brees over both of them. Right. And if Hubbard is out, then Rico Doudel is an absolute stud, start him again.
Starting point is 01:16:10 but Hubbard says he's going to play so what are you thinking about this backfield I'm kind of thinking that we're going to get the old you get a series you get a series you get a series you get a series and then whoever's if one of the guys like if Rio O'Donnell is just still doing what he's doing and Chuba Hubbard's averaging 3.8 yards per carry then Rico probably takes over a 6535 lead in the backfield
Starting point is 01:16:34 but I don't think they're going to go in and the other thing is Chuba said he didn't know how much he was going to play So maybe this is his first game back, and he's just the backup running back. Yeah, it's really annoying. I kind of thought we were going to get one more, one more Dowdell game. So Rico Dowdle, if Chuba plays, RICO Dowdell or J.K. Dobbins. I will probably have him behind Dobbins. Again, we don't have Chuba ranked.
Starting point is 01:17:01 It was a limited practice yesterday, right? Yeah. So a limited practice on a Wednesday for a guy that's been out a couple weeks. We don't have Quentin Johnston ranked yet either. We'll make those decisions before the Thursday night game. But if Chuba is active, I'm going to have Dobbins higher. And you have Dobbins 22nd, so. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I would guess I'm going to have Dowdell at 24 if Chuba's active. Okay, right next to Jalen Warren. Between Montgomery and Ken Walker. McMillan. All right, I'm not going to get into McMillan because we're at an hour in 16 minutes, and we talked about him for about five minutes earlier today. Heath has him as a number two. Jamie has him as a number three.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Jamie might move him up a little bit, but not into his top 24. We know the deal here with Tedd Earl McMillan and what's going to happen. He's going to get Sauce Gardner, but not necessarily on every snap. Justin Fields, Heath, you have him 15th. Dave has him 22nd. And look, I know he's had good games with bad receiving core. You know, he's never had like a great receiving core. But even, you know, in the darnel Mooney days, he's had some good games.
Starting point is 01:18:07 but this is awful. I mean, it's quite possibly, especially if Josh Reynolds is out, I think it may be the worst wide receiver group on a field in a game. If Josh Reynolds plays,
Starting point is 01:18:21 what's your interest level on him? He is down in that I-O-Manor Van Jefferson conversation. Someone you might consider in leagues where you've got multiple flexes or you're really just destroyed at wide receivers, sneaks into the top 48.
Starting point is 01:18:40 If Reynolds plays, would you rather start him or Jalen Coker? We don't have Coker in the ranking Jed either, but probably I'd go with Reynolds. All right. I kind of like that. I like the opportunity for Coker. I just don't know how much he's going to play. And then Mason Taylor, what are we thinking about him? The definition of a borderline tied-in one last week was obviously very disappointing,
Starting point is 01:19:05 but if there's no Josh Reynolds then he probably moves up just a little bit he's still like which of these guys do you want to rank Mason Taylor higher than he's got he's at 12 for me and I kind of want to rank him higher but do you want to rank him higher than Tucker Kraft do you want to rank him higher than Michael Mayer
Starting point is 01:19:21 do you want to rank him higher than Harold Fanon you want to rank him higher than Dallas Goddert Kate Otten Travis Kelsey I would go he could be better than those guys but I don't have them ahead of them If Evans plays, which we're expecting, I would start Mason Taylor over Aten. I would start Mason Taylor, not over Fanon.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I don't think I'd start him over Goddard, not over Kelsey. But there was one other name you said. Kraft? Not over Kraft. Oh, Mayor. I would start over Mayor. Yeah. But it's a, it was really a dart throw.
Starting point is 01:19:52 All these guys have such good opportunities this week. And Kraft has been, like, I know you guys talk about him tomorrow, but what a disappointing role he's had after a spectacular start to the season since his week two blow up four, five, and two targets. You called him a cell high after that week two blow up. There we go. It's a good call.
Starting point is 01:20:13 You like a DST in this game? Who are we even talking about? Carolina and the Jets. You know, I'm starting to think that maybe I should have Carolina's defense ring tire. Yeah. I don't like the Jets. I'm going to move the Panthers
Starting point is 01:20:30 up and they are going to be 14th. Okay. And Bryce Young is about 18th for everyone. Yep. And that is it. Oh, yes, Taylor over Taysom Hill.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Boy, Ben loves Taysom Hill. Well, I mean, in fairness, Taysam Hill scores touchdowns. He does. Theo Johnson or Mason Taylor from the chat. Taylor. Yeah, let's see. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Carolina's D or Jacksonville's D against the Rams? I would go with Carolinas. And Bryce Younger, Sam Darnold. I'm going with Bryce Young. I don't think this matchup's very good for Sam Darnold. I'm going Darnold. He's just so good.
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