Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Sit the Dolphins!? Start Najee? Anthony Richardson? (09/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 26, 2024Players we love (3:30) this week including our Start of the Week Chuba Hubbard and players to avoid (5:45) including Jared Goff and some debate over Garrett Wilson. We have a longer discussion about c...ornerbacks we try to avoid, and then we'll update you on the news and notes (14:30) ... One Question for Each Game (20:40)! Start Khalil Shakir? Tyreek Hill? Cam Akers? Najee Harris? Jauan Jennings? ... Start or Sit for Bills-Ravens (28:00), Titans-Dolphins (35:25), Jaguars-Texans (43:15), Steelers-Colts (51:15), Browns-Raiders (1:00:00), Chiefs-Chargers (1:06:50), Patriots-49ers (1:12:00) and Broncos-Jets (1:16:05) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today on the show, we're going to tell you how bad the Raiders have been against the
run as they face Cleveland.
How good the Chiefs have been against the run.
If you should start Anthony Richardson, if you should start Jawan Jennings and more.
We got some fun.
This is a fun slate today with some tough calls.
I mean, I think even the Dolphins, especially the Dolphins are tough calls.
So we're looking at Buffalo, Baltimore, Tennessee, Miami, Jacksonville, Houston,
Pittsburgh at the Colts, Cleveland at Las Vegas, Kansas City at Los Angeles Chargers,
and New England at San Francisco. We're going to throw in there and Denver at the Jets.
Good morning, Heath and Jamie. Heath, what's going on?
It's a wonderful Thursday morning.
We've got football tonight.
I'm so excited.
Jamie, what's going on?
Got a hurricane.
Not for you, really, is it?
I mean, they canceled school today.
Really?
Yeah, they don't like the buses to drive whenever it's like really bad wind.
So we're getting the outer bands of it.
Yeah, I mean, it's everybody safe, obviously.
Yeah.
Obviously.
Yeah.
Stay safe.
Bleach a bathtub, fill it with water.
So you have water for flushing toilets and cleaning wounds or whatever.
If you have to, I remember all my hurricane preparedness.
Yeah.
I've been here for almost 10 years.
I've never, never bleached or filled a bathtub.
You don't have to bleach it,
but clean it.
You need to have
a clean water supply
in case your power goes out
and you have no water.
Adam's a Hurricane Andrew veteran.
Okay.
See, my power is,
my water doesn't come
from my electricity.
Well, you could lose
your water anyway.
I mean, I remember
when I was in college,
we had three hurricanes my junior year.
It was Katrina, which obviously was worse in other places, but Katrina, Rita, and Wilma.
Were you there, Jamie?
Were you in Florida?
We backed it back to back.
So, I mean, we knew what we were doing.
Have water, not to drink, but for other purposes. Okay. I don't think we have to worry about that um have have water you know not to drink but for other
purposes okay yeah i don't think we have to worry about that for this one but no not you but but
people in the panhandle georgia you stay safe everybody okay who do we love who do we love jamie
this week uh chuba hubbard started the week um i never would have thought that in a million years
after week one and how bad the Panthers looked.
He turned things around in week two, but clearly week three,
there was a big change making Andy Dalton the starting quarterback.
It looked like an actual offense, and he looked fantastic.
And I think the thing that I was hoping for,
which I'm still hopeful for for Jonathan Brooks,
is the role in the passing game.
We saw that from Dave Canales in Tampa Bay,
specifically with Rashad White and Hubbard. Five catches, 55 yards, and a touchdown to five targets.
And now they're down Adam Thielen.
So we've seen this Bengals' defense right now.
They definitely did better against the run from a running back perspective
last week against the Commanders.
Brian Robinson did score a touchdown, but he didn't exactly run very well.
But week one, it was Ramondre Stevenson.
Week two, it was Isaiah Pacheco.
I think this
is going to be a a pretty significant week for for chuby bill hubbard and probably his last big
week because it sounds like jonathan brooks is coming back so this is uh an opportunity i think
for him to go out with a bang and maybe establish himself as a still big piece of this offense
moving forward when when brooks does return okay i just got this email from Ethan. Starter set.
Ridley, just one.
Ridley, Christian Kirk, Chuba Hubbard.
So far, it's Chuba, right?
Yep.
Or Tyreek Hill.
Chuba for me.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
I think I've got Tyreek projected for like a tenth of a fantasy point more in full PBR.
So, yeah, I think Chuba's probably safer.
All right, Chuba Hubbard against the Bengals.
Heath, how about you? Who do you love this week?
Yeah, I'll go with the guy that I've got ranked right next to him. I haven't had Brian Robinson ranked as a top 20 running back yet this season,
but Austin Eckler's out with a concussion.
Robinson won't get 100% of the touches,
but he should see a higher percentage in the game,
I think, with the highest over-under on the slate
against the Arizona Cardinals.
Good matchup, lots of volume.
Start Brian Robinson.
All right, and how about players to avoid?
Heath, I know you want to go first.
Yeah, I really don't.
But I always forget
how high these...
You know what? Jared Goff's at home,
and we talked about this fantastic schedule that
Jared Goff had to start the year,
and how we were going to be able to start him for the first
two months, and it's been miserable.
And I don't want to start
Jared Goff even at home. Really?
Okay.
Jared Goff against Seattle on Monday.
Who are you starting over him?
I am starting
Baker Mayfield over him. I'm starting
Sam Darnold over him. I'm starting
Daniel Jones over him. Oh my
God, no. Wow.
No. Oh, geez.
Wow. I hope you're right. I hope
you're right for my sake today, but my
goodness, Jared Goff versus Daniel Jones. Okay. Jamie, who are you avoiding?
I'll stick with the same theme. Avoid the guy that's facing Patrick Sertan. Uh,
it's Garrett Wilson's turn. Uh, we've seen it so far this season. It was, uh, DK Metcalf. It was
Mike Evans. It was George Pickens. I mean, the number one receiver against Denver has been erased and
Garrett Wilson gets his turn. So not a top 24 receiver. I was the same way for me with Mike
Evans last week. I think we'll see Aaron Rodgers challenge him a little bit, but the production
has been absolutely miserable for the guys that Sertan has had to face. So sit him if you can.
Yeah. And I wonder, like, obviously, if he struggles this week,
we're probably going to say,
buy low, buy low, buy low next week on Garrett Wilson.
But if you're playing with savvy fantasy managers,
maybe buy low now and you just take the chance
that there's a bad week and get this manager's like,
all right, Wilson's going to struggle this week.
I might as well get him off my team.
You know, that's another look at it.
I don't understand why he's been worse with Aaron Rodgers.
His stuff's getting slower and the volume's not as good.
He's receiving yards per game down.
He's faced tough players.
He placed Gonzalez last week, who shadowed him.
Who did he have week two?
Yeah, but if I'm drafting a guy at the 1-2 turn... Yeah, he faced Snead. He got shadowed by Snead.
If I'm drafting a guy at the 1-2 turn,
it's not supposed to...
They're not supposed to be seven different cornerbacks in the NFL
that, well, the matchup's tough this week.
I can't trust him.
After this week, he just so will have happened to face
three very good corner.
Like it's almost as bad of a schedule as you can get who.
So maybe we should talk about this as a starter set.
Who are the cornerbacks you avoid?
Sertan for sure.
I think Snead based on last year and shadowing Garrett Wilson in week two.
Well,
I mean that,
that factors into Tyree kill.
He did a great job against Tyree kill in the playoffs,
right? I don't remember that. Did he? Yeah. two. Well, I mean, that factors into Tyreek Hill. He did a great job against Tyreek Hill in the playoffs, right?
I don't remember.
Did he?
Yeah, well, either he did or the weather did, one of the two.
Right.
I don't remember if he shattered him.
And him throwing him to the ground.
We all saw that.
Tyreek just getting abused.
Right, so those are two of them.
I mean, I know Jair Alexander just shuts down.
But no, not him.
I want to flip the question a different direction, though.
Who are the wide receivers that you don't care?
The top five guys?
So it stops before Garrett Wilson?
Yeah, I don't think he's done.
Dave brought this up last week with Mike Evans when we had this conversation.
He's like, I'm not sitting Mike Evans against anybody.
Basically, I don't want to speak for Dave, but that's, I think, the gist of it.
And I think that's the case for most people.
You don't really have a lot of – like your team has to be pretty loaded
to bench Garrett Wilson, to bench Mike Evans, to bench, you know, DK Metcalf.
George Pickens is a little bit different conversation, I think.
But, you know, when you look at these guys, it's hard to sit them.
You just got to hope like we had – what was it, last year, two years ago,
Metcalf has that big touchdown against Lattimore.
You know, when Lattimore falls down or he shoves him, you know, I forget how it went.
These guys are elite for a reason on the other side of the ball.
And so like, I'm not sitting Justin Jefferson this week
because he's facing Alexander.
There's no chance.
But for what Wilson has done in his career,
and certainly so far this season, I think it's justified,
especially when we have
three games worth of data of what he's done to some pretty elite talent already.
I mean, we could put Alexander in the in the maybes, like if he does shadow Jefferson and
does a great job that maybe we can reevaluate.
Another guy I would reevaluate with would be Derek Stingley for the Texans.
But the other great cornerbacks like, like sauce Gardner,
he doesn't travel.
So he's not going to shadow Cortland Sutton.
Like,
I don't know.
I think you care,
but I'm just thinking of the guys who actually travel shadow receivers and
are great.
Unfortunately,
Garrett Wilson has had Snead already.
We'll have Sertan this week.
I don't know if I want to throw the word great on Christian Gonzalez,
but I think he's pretty damn good.
So I think his schedule has been just about as bad as you could get.
Right, but you mentioned Gonzalez, and that's a good call because the Seahawks receivers both had huge games.
But not on him.
He actually, the next-gen stats said that Metcalf did very little against Gonzalez.
So, yes, you're right, but he had that busted coverage.
But the point would be is it's usually never 100% shadow.
Correct, correct.
And Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson's going to play in the slot.
I mean, he plays in the slot almost 30% of the time.
So he's going to not be – Sertan doesn't always –
doesn't usually follow into the slot.
There will be snaps, or he is not on Pat Sertan.
So, yeah, Jamie, I mean – but you're still sitting him.
Is he in the top 24?
Yeah, I mean, there's enough of a sample size
of number one receiver versus
this defense, you know, so it's not just
Sertan completely
eliminating these guys, but the targets
are down for all of them. The production
is certainly down for all of them. And you've
seen what these guys have done. Really, the only one that hasn't
had a huge blow-up game aside
from this
Denver matchup has been Pickens.
And we know the reason there is just volume.
Also the Broncos and the jets they're playing,
they have the two best pass rushes,
that highest pressure rates in football.
So the Broncos past defense actually pretty good.
All right.
So we're starting Chuba Hubbard and Brian Robinson.
Jamie said Hubbard.
Heath said Robinson.
Heath said he wants to sit Jared Goff.
Jamie wants to sit Garrett Wilson.
I got to give a quick shout out.
Heath, you know Roxanne from our Sunday morning show.
She asks a lot of questions.
Roxanne Cronk.
I got this email from her husband.
You got to sing it.
I mean, come on.
I did.
That one's too hard.
Rah!
No, that's too hard.
From her husband, Morgan. He said,
can you give a shout out to my wife? And in the last six years, we, Roxanne and I,
have beat cancer, survived a category five hurricane, got engaged and married,
bought our first house and lots more while always listening to your show. When I was sick,
the show really helped me take my mind off of things. We're daily listeners, and I was just wondering if you could give a shout-out to my awesome wife on a show.
And, yes, shout-out Roxanne.
We'll see you on Sunday morning, 1130 a.m. Eastern, at youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today to answer start-sit questions.
And I think they're getting ready to evacuate again if they haven't already done so.
So they're in the path of the storm.
So to Roxanne and Morgan, good luck to you. Thank you for watching. And Morgan's a firefighter. So
shout out to both of them. Yeah. I mentioned our Sunday morning show. It's a great way to
get your questions answered. So that's YouTube dot com slash fantasy football today at eleven
thirty a.m. Eastern. Me, Dave and heath we're just answering your starter set questions for basically 85 minutes or so up until kickoff jamie you can see him on hq on uh on the
cbs sports app on sunday mornings beginning at 10 a.m eastern all right we're going to take a break
we got news and notes and we got one question for each game and then we'll break down eight afc home
games well seven afc home games and plus new England, San Francisco, after this on FFT.
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Your quarterback news.
Justin Herbert is hoping to play against the Chiefs.
Tua Tungabailoa reportedly feels fine
and wants to play again this season.
I haven't seen anything.
The Dolphins play Monday, so they'll have their first practice today.
I don't know who their quarterback is going to be.
Are you guys kind of crazy, right?
Yeah.
Does it, does it even matter?
Oh gosh. I've seen, I've seen two columns in two different South Florida publications
saying that they need to play Huntley just because he gives them a different element with his legs that can maybe,
you know,
steal a game or two,
you know,
this from more,
obviously more from a win loss perspective.
McDaniel kind of alluded to boil,
just being a little bit more prepared at this point.
That's why they went to him after Thompson went down.
It sounded just based on what McDaniel said,
at least from, from what I was thinking that he wants to they went to him after Thompson went down. It sounded just based on what McDaniel said, at least from what I was thinking,
that he wants to go back
to Skylar Thompson
if he's healthy.
Okay.
The report that I read
is that Thompson's unlikely
to play this week.
That's the bigger thing.
Is Thompson able to play?
Probably not.
I just got the impression
from McDaniel
that if Thompson was ready to go,
he would be the starter,
which I don't know why. I would try Huntley
personally. Huntley took
over for Jackson two years ago
and went 3-2,
including the game where Jackson left right away.
The numbers were ugly,
but he did go 3-2.
Anyway, we'll talk about that game soon.
I saw an incredible Dolphin stat yesterday.
What is it?
They haven't had a tight end score So anyway, we'll talk about that game soon. It's not an incredible dolphin stat yesterday. What is it?
They haven't had a tight end score touchdown since Mike Isecki in the 2022 playoffs. And he's been on two teams since then.
Wow.
And how about this?
This is the Cowboys tonight.
This is the Cowboys first short week road game ever, I think, because they always get the Thursday home game because of Thanksgiving.
But only recently, teams were allowed to play two Thursday games and they haven't played on
the road yet. So this is the first time they're playing on the road on a short week. Wow. Jordan
Love was limited in practice. Let's keep our fingers crossed for him. Doug Peterson said
everything is on the table. So he didn't even commit to Trevor Lawrence being a starter. I don't know what the hell is going to happen with the Jaguars.
Is Doug Peterson still at the table?
But I had
to drop Tank Bigsby in a league, and
that's one guy I just don't really want to drop.
If everything's on the table, well, ETN's been pretty bad
I think, so maybe just keep
an eye on that. Yeah, that's smart. Let's bench
ETN. I'm not saying anything's
going to happen. No, I know. I'm saying that's Doug Peterson's answer.
Yeah. Jalen Warren mispracticed, but not saying anything's going to happen. No, I know. I'm saying that's Doug Peterson's answer. Yeah.
Jalen Warren mispracticed, but Najee Harris is going to play.
I'll tell you about his role a little bit later,
what happened in week three when Warren got hurt.
Alvin Kamara mispracticed. That sound you may have heard was me screaming when I saw that.
He has injured ribs and a hip pointer issue.
Just a Wednesday practice, not necessarily meaning Kamara's going to miss the game,
but pick up Jamal Williams if you want.
Damian Pierce is reportedly trending in the right direction.
He didn't practice, but he might play this week.
Joe Mixon mispracticed.
So right now it's looking probably no Mixon, maybe Damian Pierce,
and Cam Akers is still there.
Jerome Ford mispracticed.
Don't think that's anything serious.
Austin Eckler's already been ruled out, as Heath mentioned.
Kareem Hunt's going to play this week.
He's apparently going to rotate in at the Chargers.
Jonathan Brooks, as Jamie mentioned,
is close to coming off the reserve NFI list,
so Jonathan Brooks could be back as early as next week.
Wide receiver news.
Adam Thielen's on IR.
Todd Bowles wants to get Mike Evans more involved.
He's facing the Eagles this week.
Tank Dell mispracticed.
That's one that looks actually pretty questionable with Tank Dell.
We'll see if he practices today. Josh Palmer was limited. Marvin Harrison was limited. Tank Dell mispracticed. That's one that looks actually pretty questionable with Tank Dell.
We'll see if he practices today.
Josh Palmer was limited.
Marvin Harrison was limited.
I think that's fine.
Devontae Smith and A.J. Brown both mispracticed. So if you're deciding Dak Prescott versus Jalen Hurts, go with Dak.
But don't, right?
Go with Dak?
I would, yes.
I would start Dak over Hurts, yes.
I guess we'll have another practice report before then.
But right now, we're thinking Dak. but not Daniel Jones, right, Heath?
Not Daniel Jones.
Okay.
Keenan Allen was limited.
All right, maybe he can get back out there.
Jamar Chase has a shoulder issue.
I don't think that's a big deal.
And Jordan Addison practiced.
Looks like he has a good chance to play this week.
Tight end.
Oh, it's not exactly a squeaky wheel game,
but it's a coming out in support of game for Travis Kelsey
because Mahomes and Andy Reid, like, they seem to,
they don't, they're sticking up for their guy.
So let's go Kelsey.
What did they say?
Well, Mahomes said teams are going to have to stop
double teaming Kelsey, basically,
or Rasheed Rice is going to have, he said, 2,000 yards.
So basically he said that
Kelsey's getting all this attention
and it's opening up things for Rice.
This is exactly what Dave said, by the way.
Teams are going to have to make adjustments soon.
David Njoku mispracticed,
Trey McBride mispracticed,
Evan Ingram mispracticed,
Taysom Hill expected a play
and George Kittle got in a limited session.
There's so many offensive line injuries.
I don't even know where to begin, so I'll probably skip them.
Except if you saw that Trent Williams mispracticed for the Niners, that was with an illness.
One good sign for Tampa Bay, right tackle Luke Gedeke was limited.
They have been really struggling with pass protection the last two weeks with him out.
But Teron Armstead, as if it couldn't get any worse for the Dolphins,
Teron Armstead's in the concussion protocol.
The Chargers could be without both of their starting tackles.
And three Baltimore linemen mispractice.
I don't know that any of them are really in danger of missing the game,
but three starting linemen for the Ravens mispractice.
And then on defense, two Giants cornerbacks have been ruled out.
Vita Vea got in a limited
practice session.
So you sit Barkley,
JK, JK.
And then things are bad
for the Raiders.
Max Crosby mispractice
with an ankle injury.
Hopefully he's always playing.
He always plays.
Miles Garrett mispractice.
Remember the Raiders
are playing without
a starting safety.
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Okay, one question for each game.
Buffalo at Baltimore, maybe one of the easier start-sit games.
So, start or sit Khalil Shakir?
Definite starter in three receiver leagues.
In two receiver leagues, it obviously depends on who you have.
For me, the cutoff line was I have Garrett Wilson one spot ahead of Kloschker.
Yeah, I'm lower.
I'd prefer to sit him.
If the pass volume spikes for Buffalo, then I think he's got a better chance,
but he's still averaging fewer than five targets per game.
That's tough to be a startable fantasy wide receiver consistently with that type of volume.
Yeah. It's, it's ticked up each of the last two weeks. It was five targets last week,
six, five targets two weeks ago, six targets last week thing was three in the first,
first week. I know he's caught every target that's been thrown to him. Cause that's just what he
does. The reason I think it could be a little bit better for him is this, this should be their
most competitive game.
You know, I mean, you look at Arizona week one.
Clearly, they were figuring some stuff out there, but I don't know how much of that was the wind in Buffalo,
if you recall the weather for that one.
They blew out the Dolphins when Tua got hurt, and then you have the game where they blew out the Jaguars.
You know, so if Baltimore presumably is competitive, which you think they should be,
then this is going to probably fall on Josh Allen,
I think, to have to throw a little bit more.
Yeah, I think Baltimore was opened as a two-point favorite,
and now it's up to two and a half.
Oh, all right.
Looking forward to this.
We're going to do the Sunday night show at 4 p.m.
We're just going to skip the...
Just so we can watch the Bills-Ravens game.
Or we could just do it at like 7.30.
I don't know.
How many four o'clock games are there?
Oh, there's only four.
All right, we'll try.
We'll try.
Tennessee, Miami.
Who do you like better, Tyreek Hill or Tony Pollard?
Pollard.
I've got Tyreek just ahead, but neither one's a must start.
I wonder if Tyreek Hill is going to have a start percentage above.
What do you think, above or below 80% this week?
Above. Oh, above this week? Above.
Oh, above 80.
All right.
It's been.
Okay.
All right.
Jacksonville.
80's tough for a first round player that's not hurt.
I know.
But like Tyler Huntley, if it is Tyler Huntley.
It's currently 95%.
Yeah, nobody set their lineups yet.
Well.
Lots of people have set their lineups.
It's Thursday.
Most people are like waiting for that 8 a.m. on Tuesday morning
so they can get their lineup set for the next week.
And then they check it on Wednesday.
And then they check it on Thursday.
Yeah, I don't think he should be 95% started.
If Tyler Huntley's the starter,
I don't know if Huntley's going to throw for 150 yards.
I think he averaged 120 yards or something like that
in four starts with the Ravens.
The thing with Tyreek, you have to hope that McDaniel's
going to just manufacture touches for him.
So, you know, carries, in air quotes,
just plays behind the line of scrimmage
where he's just touching the ball.
I mean, he was asked this.
I listened to almost his entire postgame press conference last week.
He was asked just, you know,
why was Tyreek not more involved in getting touches?
And I mean, it's not a squeaky wheel thing
because I just think they're figuring stuff out,
but they have to give him manufactured touches
in some way, shape, or form.
All right, we'll go to our next game.
Jacksonville at Houston.
Who's the best flex?
Christian Kirk, Brian Thomas, or Cam Akers?
Thomas.
Kirk.
Pittsburgh at the Colts.
Do you like Najee Harris this week?
And I've sort of been teasing this, but he played,
he basically was their third down back after Jalen Warren left.
Yeah, moderately excited about Najee.
He was in consideration for the start of the week because Jalen Warren is
most likely not going to play.
And like you said, five catches last week for him,
which is the thing that's been missing for two seasons since his rookie year,
or three seasons since his rookie year.
The Colts matchup is as good as you can get.
We didn't see it last week because it was the Bears,
but the two previous games, a guy went for over 130 yards against them.
Clearly, Cordero Patterson, based on Arthur Smith,
will have some semblance of a role,
but without Jalen Warren there,
like,
I'd take my chances
with Najee for sure.
Stardom in leagues
where you receive points
for touches and usage,
probably not a few yards
and touchdowns.
He's a flex.
Yeah,
and I should say,
he had five catches last week.
Oddly enough,
I don't think any of them
came on third.
In fact,
I'm sure none of them
came on third down, but still, like, Warren will get in there on, on first and second
down sometimes. So I think it probably was related. Um, Cleveland at Las Vegas. And you said,
you said that Indianapolis is good to get for a running back as good as it gets, but I think that
might actually be Las Vegas. So Devante Adams or Jerome Ford, who's a better flex.
So we got to keep an eye on Ford
because he mispracticed on Wednesday.
And you should be picking up Deontay Foreman
if he's available just to see
because if Ford, for whatever reason,
misses the game,
we saw what happened the last time
that they had a game script
that was in their favor.
It was two weeks ago
and it was the Deontay Foreman show.
So he out-touched Ford 15-8.
Ford was another guy I was considering start of the week as well.
But once he mispracticed, it was like, can you even recommend him right now?
So it didn't seem like it was a veteran thing.
So I think he's just one to keep an eye on.
But yes, clearly, Ford for sure is at least a flex if he plays.
And I think you could flex Foreman too.
Because again, the last time that they had a lead, it was a lot of Deontay Foreman.
Adams.
Adams or Ford was the question.
So he says Adams. Yeah.
If Ford's fully helic practices today though, and it's like,
is good to go Adams or Ford.
It'd still be Adams for me.
Still be Adams. All right.
He's he's that's one thing that got to get going as him.
Kansas city at the chargers, Carson steel or JK Dobbins. All right. That's one thing they got to get going is him. Kansas City at the Chargers.
Carson Steele or J.K. Dobbins?
Dobbins.
Steele.
All right.
So now if we go back to the playoffs, the last five games,
the lead running back against the Chiefs is average 3.6 yards per carry or worse.
And those running backs have been James Cook, Christian McCaffrey,
Derrick Henry, Zach Moss, and Bijan Robinson.
So right now they've got a really good run defense,
which is weird because they had a terrible run defense
up until that point last year.
New England at San Francisco.
Who's a better flex, Ramondre Stevenson or Jawan Jennings?
Jennings in PPR.
Yeah.
Denver's at the Jets.
Start or sit Garrett Wilson.
We already did that.
So,
um,
Javante Williams.
Any interest?
I would start Braylon Allen over Javante Williams.
All right.
I would not do that.
But any interest? I would start Braylon Cortland Sutton. Any interest?
I would start Braylon Allen over Cortland Sutton.
Okay.
There's not a Broncos player I want to start.
Yeah, I figured.
Stat of the game for that one,
which is the last game we're talking about.
Let me just make sure I get it right.
Cortland Sutton, he's an outside receiver.
He's lined up out wide for 139 snaps.
68% of them have been on the left side of the formation
which is not where sauce gardner lines up so for those three percent of you that are going to have
to start courtland sutton this week now you can feel a little bit better about it buffalo's at
baltimore all right we're done with one question for each game let's break it down. Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson?
Allen.
I might have Jackson.
All right.
Start on both.
That's my bold take.
James Cook.
Baltimore's been, wow, like so good against running backs.
2.6 yards per carry allowed of running backs. They faced Pacheco and then the Raiders and the Cowboys.
But I don't know.
Can't get James Cook out of your lineup, right?
No.
Okay.
And they have seen the fourth most targets to running back.
So there should be some good stuff available in the passing game.
All right.
Khalil Shakir is like a number three receiver.
We talked about him.
We'll compare him to other players.
But yeah, we have a graphic here.
Projections for Henry and James Cook. They're projected for the same amount of fantasy points,
15.2. I know you have no hesitation with Cook, any hesitation with Derrick Henry.
This potentially could be a bad game script for him if the Bills' offense continues to just be a juggernaut
and they're chasing points.
But you can't bench Henry at this point.
I'm not.
If I had to start one, if I had somehow Jordan Mason, James Cook,
and Derrick Henry, then I would sit Henry before I sat Cook.
Okay.
This could be a Justice Hill game, not, again,
starting him over any of these guys or anybody significant,
but you see game flow, how it could go.
The Bills, I believe, are fourth or fifth in most receptions allowed
to running backs on the season.
19 catches.
I don't know where that stands, but it's in the top five range.
And clearly we saw in a track meet type of game,
week one-ish, Justice Hill was huge
from a pass-catching standpoint, six catches in that game.
So, you know, you're talking desperation, flex, PPR,
desperation, running back situation, PPR,
certainly not none, but there's a chance
Justice Hill could matter this week.
You guys like Kincaid this week?
Yeah, they've been miserable against tight ends.
They're giving up the most passing yards in the NFL.
Well, you saw the last two tight ends against them.
Week one, they shut down the old guy.
But the last two weeks, they couldn't stop Bowers,
and they couldn't stop Ferguson.
No, but like everyone's
having they're giving up the fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers rishi rice savior worthy
davante adams cd lamb was actually kind of bad but jaylen tolbert had a touchdown turpin had 51 yards
in a touchdown again most passing yards in football allowed by the baltimore ravens they're good
against all the has-beens you know cd C.D. Lamb. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
All right, so start Kincaid.
What about Mark Andrews?
Probably just in that I don't care, I don't care,
I'm leaving on my starting lineup category.
There's no good justification.
There's no real reason.
But I'm not probably going to waste the roster spot on a
second tight end and i'm probably not i'm not going to drop him i have a buddy that helped
him with his guillotine league and he drafted like joan johnson like he just waited too long
to draft tight end you know it's 18 teams um so mark andrews was chopped after the first week i
said i'll go get andrews He's not going to be this bad.
He spent 200 of a thousand dollars on Andrews.
And he says to me, he's like,
I don't think this Andrews thing is going to work out so much.
So he got,
he got Jake Ferguson for $33 less,
less this week.
You could definitely start Ferguson over him.
And yeah,
speaking of guillotine link,
the one that I'm in with a bunch of analysts,
Christian McCaffrey was chopped as as was Zemir White.
Zemir White went for $100 out of $1,000.
Christian McCaffrey went for $23.
Oh, my God.
Well, yeah, I've been a guillotine league.
But it's just – when I saw it, I was shocked because I think I put like $21 in for him.
And I was like, man, for $5 more, I could have had McCaffrey just sitting there.
Wow.
Yeah.
All right.
Well,
a hundred dollars for Samir white was,
was too much,
but I said,
I say likely Zay flowers.
How are we feeling about Zay flowers this week?
The bills,
you know,
that kind of,
I like flowers.
I mean,
this is the kind of guy I think that would do well against the bills.
It's not going to beat them over the top, but they give a lot of, a lot of short I like Flowers. This is the kind of guy I think that would do well against the Bills. He's not going to beat them over the top, but they
give a lot of short completions
up.
Very good number, or solid number two
wide receiver. I guess
Jawan Jennings may be the line this week. I'd start
him over Jawan Jennings. I think
the thing you look at again is game script.
You know, the first two games, they were
in dog
fights, right?
It became a dog fight with the Cowboys at the end of the game,
but it was the Derrick Henry show.
And you would anticipate this game being a little bit back and forth.
And the first two games for Flowers was 10 plus targets.
So if he's getting 10 plus targets, I really don't care unless he's facing,
you know, one of these league corners, which, you know, Buffalo doesn't have. But I think just the amount of volume,
you said this earlier in the week, Adam,
just how much he's become the focal point of the passing game.
And to go back to Andrews,
you mentioned the offensive line injuries.
If they are legitimate, then I think Andrews is in trouble.
That's kind of what Harbaugh has said,
is that they needed their tight ends
to be such a big part of their blocking
that it could really limit Andrew's upside
if, in fact, their offensive line is worse.
All right, Zay Flowers or Tyreek Hill?
I'm not there yet, but it's close.
I'd still go Hill.
A lot closer in full PPR than it is in none,
but I'd still go Hill either way.
All right, that's it for the...
Oh, would you start a DST in this game,
Buffalo or Baltimore?
No.
Well, I don't know that I really want to drop on, though.
So...
When you say dropping,
the Ravens' defense has not been good.
No, they've been bad.
Yeah, like the Bills I get, because...
Right.
Yeah, that's a pretty tough...
I mean, I guess the Raiders weren't,
but that's a pretty tough start
to the season besides that.
I mean, the first game
the Ravens played
was like a very mediocre offense.
That's true.
All right.
Try to avoid him if you can.
I guess we'll say
we're going to take a break.
We got Tennessee at Miami.
We'll talk more about Tyree kill
and Jalen Waddle.
Devon H and he was coming
off a horrible game.
Can you go back to him?
We'll let you know when we come back on Fantasy Football today.
Monday Night Football, Tennessee is at Miami.
So who's the easy start?
Is there an easy start in this game?
Tony Pollard's easy.
You said him before Achan.
Yeah, well, in terms of easy, like when you look at matchups, it is easy. You said him before HN. Yeah, well, in terms
of easy, like when you look at matchups, it's
easy. I mean,
I think everybody's starting HN, everybody's starting Tyree
Kill, but I don't think it's easy. Are you
starting HN over Pollard? Yes.
More upside, especially
if Tyree Spears gets more involved. I mean, they've been talking about
this for a couple weeks now, right, of getting Spears
more touches. Yeah.
Maybe it'll happen.
They talked about it all summer, but they didn't actually do it.
Yeah.
After it was the first time, but they were behind.
Week one, the third down roll was pretty much exclusively Tajay Spears.
Week two, Spears got hurt.
But week three, they split it.
So it's like they even took away that role
after talking about wanting to get him involved.
Alright, bad game.
Coming off a bad game for Pollard where they were chasing
points where he only had six carries.
But you are starting A-chan.
Alright, so there are more
tough calls in this game than there were in Baltimore-Buffalo.
So let's break it down. We're going to sit Will Levis.
We're going to sit whoever's starting for the
Dolphins at quarterback.
Tony Pollard is a start, but he's behind A-Chan.
Would you start A-Chan or Jordan Mason?
Mason.
I would start Mason.
Would you start A-Chan or Zach Charbonnet?
A-Chan. Detroit Charbonnet? A-Chan.
That Detroit defense is tough.
Yeah, if, I mean, I'd start Charbonnet over A-Chan.
All right.
By the way, I'm not just going to assume that Ken Walker's out,
but we'll see.
Pretty practice today.
Wide receiver.
So, Hills is going to be your highest-ranked receiver.
And is he, where is,
is he in your top 12? Not for me. Top 20. Yeah, boy. Three catches for 40 yards at Seattle last
week. Huntley averaged like 117 yards in his four starts. He only averaged 20 pass attempts. This
was with the Ravens, you know, Greg Roman's Ravens. Yep,
exactly.
They were winning.
I think they went two and two in his starts.
They went three and two in the,
in the five games he played,
what four of them were starts.
And then they lost in the playoffs,
but they were very conservative,
but he is also going to run the ball.
So if it's Tim Boyle,
Tim Boyle has made five starts and has thrown for more than 187 yards.
One time he's thrown four touchdowns to nine interceptions.
It's just this. It's not every backup quarterback situation is the same.
It's not like Justin Jefferson with Nick Mullins.
This is so bad.
So, I don't know.
Out of obligation, people are going to start Tyreek Hill.
But they're not going to start Jalen Waddell, right?
Nope.
No, he's been miserable without Tua.
It's now nine games.
He's averaging under 50 yards per game.
No touchdowns in those nine games.
But just like the only time that Tyreek Hill has been good without Tua
was with Teddy Bridgewater.
Well, even with Skyler the first time, like it was like 13 points per game.
It was 13 points.
It wasn't Tyreek Hill, but it was a starting fantasy wide receiver. It was 13 points for 4.3 points and 14.4 points.
And now seven points in four games. Yeah. As you would say, is this the defense to
not starting Jalen Waddle? No, this is, those are Tyree kills numbers. I know. Oh, this is,
this is telling people not to start Tyreek Hill.
But listen, I have Tyreek Hill in one league and I'm starting him because he's Tyreek Hill.
I get it.
I mean, look, it's almost impossible to sit both of them in three or three leagues unless you have a lot of great options.
Like, you know, we've talked about Jalen Tolbert this week and Michael Wilson this week.
And I guess I shouldn't say I'm starting.
I start Wilson over Waddle.
But, you know, you're not scraping the bottom of the barrel to sit Jalen Waddle.
And you're certainly not doing it for Tyree Kill.
Like, you know, Heath mentioned the Jawan Jennings cut line.
Like, I don't think people are going to sit Tyree Kill for Jawan Jennings.
Oh, by the way, the Titans have allowed the third fewest fantasy points to win.
That's the other part of it.
They're good defense.
Yeah.
So let's talk about the other receivers. Let's talk Ridley and Hopkins Hopkins coming off a big game 73 yards
and a touchdown on seven targets Ridley coming off a terrible game after a great game uh he has
only 16 targets in three games uh Heath is there any case to be made to start Calvin Ridley
I think he's a number three wide receiver he'll'll at least move around a little bit, so it's not like he's going to be stuck with Ramsey on him the whole game.
There's lots of upside, and there's very little floor
on a weekly basis with him.
I think he's just kind of in that boom-bust
number three wide receiver territory.
I'm sorry if I ask this.
Would you start Khalil Shakir or Calvin Ridley?
I would start Ridley.
Shakir for me.
Definitely Pollard over Ridley.
Yep.
But not Spears, right?
No, no.
How would your HN outlook change, by the way, if Raheem Moster plays?
It would be downgraded a little bit.
Okay.
So we got these running backs like Jerome Ford, Chuba Hubbard, Najee Harris. Let's say Jerome Ford plays. They've got good setups. They've got good situations here. Would you start that trio, any of that trio over A-chan? Chuba Hubbard, Jerome Ford, Najee Harris?
No.
Jamie, your start of the week, Chubbard or A-Chan? I originally had it when I first did my rankings of Chuba over A-Chan.
I think there's just too much upside with A-Chan.
But if Mostert does play, then I would start Hubbard over A-Chan.
I mean, this Titans run defense is good.
And I know Emmanuel Wilson had a big game last week, but Jacobs did not.
And so with the way the Dolphins may operate,
I almost think Huntley's better for A-chan
than Skylar Thompson at this point,
just because we thought Thompson might throw the ball
to A-chan a lot.
And maybe that happens if it's Boyle or Thompson again.
I think Huntley will open up more running lanes for him.
And hopefully that's the case.
But you have offensive line concerns now.
You have quarterback concerns now.
It's just, it's tough to say.
Again, your question.
Any of these guys are safe.
I'll read some questions from the chat
and then we'll move on to the next game.
A-chan or Brian Robinson, half PPR?
A-chan.
Yeah, you know, as I'm thinking about this,
like I'm going to drop A-chan.
I would start Robinson.
Hopkins or Carson Steele, half PPR?
I'll go back to what I said.
I'd start Pollard over him.
I would start Hubbard over him. I just, it just feels icky. Steele? I'll go back to what I said. I'd start Pollard over him. I would start Hubbard over him.
It just feels icky.
Steele.
Steele or Hopkins, half PPR.
All right.
I like the on the show.
I like when we talk it out and helps me anyway.
I'm sure it helps the listeners just to put these guys in perspective.
And we're sitting the tight ends in this game, which, excuse me, DST, do you like better?
This is a tough call because will levis has been awful like absolutely awful and he makes one boneheaded move a game there's like a lot of people that have made the the the gifs gifs
whatever we're calling it um the um the memes out of uh out of will Levis' mistakes.
So there's probably going to be one.
But my God, the Dolphins' offense was so bad last week.
You almost want to play against them every week until Tua returns.
Yeah, I would go Titans over Dolphins.
I think as bad as Will Levis has been,
he's not Tyler Huntley or Skylar Thompson or Tim Boyle.
Or all three of them play, maybe.
You wonder, though, if they get behind, he's been asked already, are you going to bench Levis for Rudolph?
Like, could you imagine that happens in a primetime game with all the hype?
Well, by that point, everyone will be watching the other primetime game.
So, you know,
nobody will know if a tree falls in a forest,
Jacksonville's at Houston stat of the game in eight matchups against teams
that finished top 10 against running backs last year,
Travis ETN scored more than 13.7 PPR fantasy points.
Only once he scored 10.2 or fewer PPR fantasy points
in five of those bad games.
So if you missed that,
Etienne in a tough matchup was horrible last year.
The only time he was good was actually
his first tough matchup was actually
against Houston last year.
So is this another guy,
almost like Tyreek Hill,
where you feel like you have to start Travis Etienne,
but you're not excited about it?
I think to Heath's point, he know, he brought up the receivers.
I'm sorry, the running backs and Derek Henry.
It's a little bit easier for me with ETN.
You know, so Mason over him, Hubbard over him, Pollard over him.
I'm trying to think.
Like, I'm not there with Najee yet.
Robinson over him.
You know, this is not what should be a good game script for him or a good matchup
you know he got he got lucky with etn last week that they kept him in after they pulled
lawrence yeah i sit lawrence and all right you said brian heath i think you said brian thomas
was your favorite jaguars receiver oh you're muted yep there you There you go. And, Jamie, you said Kirk, right?
Yeah.
The reason I think Kirk is a little safer this week
is we saw last week's game,
first one game plan without Evan Ingram.
You know, the game before,
Ingram was a last-minute scratch,
and Kirk was, again, terrible.
And so the amount of volume that he got last week,
I think, was almost hand almost hand in hand with,
okay,
Ingram's not there.
So now we need Kirk as a little bit more of a,
of,
of a factor in what they were doing.
Not that I think they game plan around Christian Kirk,
certainly,
but I think they needed him more.
And so I,
I'm kind of feeling the same thing.
Like this is a game where I don't think Stingley's following him.
Who Kirk Thomas.
No, definitely not Kirk. Right. I don't, probably notley's following him. Who, Kirk? Yeah. Thomas.
No, definitely not Kirk.
Right.
Probably not Thomas either, but yeah.
All right.
Well, we like them, but do we, who is, who is it?
Calvin Ridley or these guys?
I would start both Jaguars receivers over Ridley.
I've got it.
Ridley, Thomas, Kirk.
I would go Kirk, Ridley, Thomas.
All right.
So very different there and start
Bretton Strange if you're desperate it if yeah I mean if Evan Ingram's out I'm probably starting
him I mean it's nine PPR points in each of the last two games different ways he's done it but
that's a that's a pretty good number for tight ends this season.
C.J. Stroud is off to a bad start.
236 passing yards per game. Last year,
274 passing yards per game.
One full yard per attempt
less. That's what he's averaging. Diggs just kills every
passing game. Who does?
Diggs.
Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, he's the curse. The slot
receiver, Stephon Diggs, plays in the slot
more than half the time.
But Heath, are we trusting C.J. Stroud this week
against the Jaguars who are giving up
the third most fantasy points,
but it's mostly Josh Allen to quarterback?
Yeah, he's a top 10 quarterback.
There's not anybody you might have picked up
that you would start over him.
I guess maybe you drafted him and Jaden Daniels
and you're starting Daniels over him,
but I'm starting C.J. Stroud in pretty much all situations.
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
And you're actually the low guy on him just barely.
Jamie 6th, Dave 7th, Heath 8th for C.J. Stroud.
So let's talk about Cam Akers here.
And people are in the chat are asking about Damian Pierce.
Damian Pierce coming back.
Jamie, what is your projection
for how the backfield is going to look this week?
If Pierce plays,
I don't think you can start any of them with confidence
because it could be Pierce, it could be Akers.
I think they're both flexes.
If Pierce is out,
then I think Akers is a borderline starter.
Sportsline has his projections as the 24th running back.
I think that's fair work.
Our consensus is 29, so in that range.
Somewhere as a low in RB2 flex. He's like 27th or 20th for me as well.
It's a great matchup. You know, Jacksonville is certainly going to be much easier for him than
what happened against the Vikings, really the entire game. You got lucky with him,
clearly that he scored, you know, caught the touchdown late in the game. But I do think that
if there's another player that they
seem to like, and Damian Pierce, for whatever reason, seems to be that guy, then we don't know
who's going to get the majority of touches. The fact that Pierce missed practice on Wednesday,
if he misses practice on Thursday, I think you could start Akers over the Cowboys guys in that
regard, because I don't think there's a slam dunk, Dowdle, or Zeke. I would start Singletary,
for example, over the Texans guys anyway, so I don't think that matters a slam dunk doubt or Zeke. I would start single Terry, for example, over the Texans guys anyway.
So I don't think that matters unless it's mixing, you know, if mixing gets into practice
and it's different story, but it seems as if mixing is one more week away at least.
And we could be looking at a Pierce acre split, which could just get ugly.
Okay.
Sounds good.
Houston wide receiver start Nico Collins.
And then are we starting tank?
Are we starting Stefan digs Heath?
And does that depend on tank Dell status we starting Stefan digs Heath? And does that
depend on tank Dell status? Cause he's questionable. Yeah. I think digs is in the
point where he's probably a low end number two wide receiver in most leagues. You're definitely
starting him in a three wide receiver league that he becomes a definite start in a two wide receiver
league. If tank Dell is out and Dell is just that boom bucks flex that I do think still probably has
the big boom coming, but it's getting harder to leave them in your lineup.
Trusting it's coming.
Dell or digs.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to keep doing that.
Diggs is in the slot almost 60% of the time.
That is by far a career high.
So he's changed his,
his game and he's got a 6.9 yard a dot,
which is by far a career low.
It had been 10 or more yards in five straight seasons
before this year for Stefan Diggs.
But he's still not doing really anything after the catch,
like three and a half yards after the catch
with a 6.9-yard ADOT.
That is bad.
So you're really just hoping for volume.
Or, well, I mean, obviously things could change.
But that's not great in terms of yards.
You're hoping for volume or touchdowns,
and you're hoping for C.J. Stroud to carry him, basically.
Jaguars have given up the eighth most fantasy points to wide receivers,
so it is a good matchup.
They were bad against Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddell, Jerry Judy, Khalil Shakir,
and they gave up a touchdown to Keon Coleman.
Sit Dalton Schultz.
Am I forgetting anyone?
I don't think I'm forgetting anyone.
Houston's DST, you can start them.
Jaguars have been sacked 12 times and fumbled four times and they're not scoring a lot so
start the texans dst i do think that schultz becomes somewhat relevant if dell is out okay
that's a good point yeah so like not a must start by any stretch because you just haven't seen it
from him but this was kind of the setup last year right when somebody was missing granted they now have three as opposed to two but when
someone was missing his performance was much better yeah someone's asking devin singletary
or tank dell you have to start singletary i would start singletary either way garrett wilson or
christian kirk these are from the chat wilson still wilson trevor lawrence or derrick carr Trevor Lawrence or Derek Carr Carr probably Carr but I don't want to start
either one
would you trade
Diggs
and Aaron Jones
for ETN and Pollard
if you don't need the wide receivers
the wide receiver
so if you don't need the wide receiver. Yeah.
So if you don't need the wide receiver and half PPR, I guess.
Yeah, I guess I would.
I mean, the only concern would be is what happens if Peterson's fired?
Does that help or hurt ETN?
Would you trade Aaron Jones for Travis ETN right now?
Yes.
Man, that's a tough one.
And that's saying something because, you know,
I'm a little concerned about the older running backs,
but they've been so awful.
Yeah, and he gets 12 carries a game.
I don't think he's had more than 13 carries in a game yet.
They need to fire Peterson.
Yeah, they need to shake it up for sure.
Pittsburgh's at the Colts.
I already told you about the stat of the game.
Najee Harris ran four routes on third down against the Chargers in week three.
All four of them came in the second half after Jalen Warren's injury.
Did not have a target, but three catches in the second half after Warren's injury.
And I don't know that he's going to be the third down guy.
Maybe they change things up when they have a week to game plan. I don't even know that Jalen Warren's going to miss the game.
That seems likely,
but Harris would probably be better without Warren.
I don't think Warren has missed it.
Maybe he's missed one game.
I think he missed one game in his career and nausea got hurt in that game.
So we've never really seen this.
So Pittsburgh got the Colts and Justin Fields or,
okay.
Who would you start?
Justin Fields over this week.
Anthony Richardson.
Jared golf. Yeah. Jamie, how about you? Richard, Who would you start Justin Fields over this week? Anthony Richardson. Jared Goff.
Jamie, how about you?
Fields or Goff?
Fields, Richardson, Goff.
Oh, really?
Okay, so you're low on Goff too.
Yeah, I mean, look, he's been bad.
I think the Seattle defense is legit.
I know they haven't faced a tough quarterback yet,
but I do think that they're legit. I know they haven't faced a tough quarterback yet, but I do think
that they're legit. Mike McDonald
is a good coach, and I think
their secondary is good. I think it's a game
that the Lions are going to run a lot.
Goff scored, what, 40
fantasy points in three games, and he's
facing a defense that's given up 30 fantasy
points in three games? They've also
done it, though, against Joe
Cohn.
We'll talk about that game tomorrow, but for this Tennessee points in three games. They've also done it though against Joe. Yeah. Yeah.
We'll talk about that game tomorrow,
but for this one fields versus Richardson,
Heath,
you still are the high guy on Richardson.
I think you have them 10th.
Are you going to move them?
Um,
I,
I have a hard time with those guys that I've got 11 and 12 Baker Mayfield and
Sam Darnold after Derek Carr reminding us last week.
I don't know
that I actually believe Darnold
and Mayfield have a higher floor.
Richardson's
upside is still so...
Nothing that he's done terribly
the last two games has changed
what his upside is. I don't think
the type of player that he is, the defense
really matters all that much. It could be terribly awful or it could be awesome. And
10 is about the spot where I don't think the quarterbacks behind him have that much more floor
and he has a ton more upside. So I'll take you through a couple of scenarios for me that I think
some Richardson managers might be dealing with is you're not dropping him. Clearly that's would be stupid.
And if you have the ability to carry another quarterback and you're concerned,
then you should do it.
You know,
if,
if you believe in Darnold,
you believe in Dalton's matchup,
for example,
which is fantastic.
You believe in,
uh,
he believes in Daniel Jones this week.
I know you wouldn't start him over Richardson,
but you know,
you get my point.
You don't believe in a certain backup quarterback.
Gino Smith, for example, has got a a i think a good matchup uh baker mayfield
who's clearly been good two or three games um if you don't want to make a roster move then you just
buy into exactly what he said like there is the still potential for him which we haven't seen
i think just full-on run game anthony richardson averaging, I think, about 30 yards per game in that range on the ground.
Like we could see a 60, 70-yard game where it's just, okay,
the passing's not there.
Shane Steichen was talking about this.
Like they won the game last week, but he's got to get better,
and he keeps saying it's going to come, it's going to come.
And I think it will.
I think he's not going to be this bad.
He's never going to be the most accurate quarterback,
but I don't think it's going to continue to be this bad.
So if he can limit the turnovers, he gets a little bit more on the ground. Like he's going to make
someone like me who says he's a bust alert, look silly. He's going to make Heath still look like,
okay, I'm buying into the upside and smart in that regard, or he could fall somewhere in between.
I just think if you don't want to make a roster move, don't make a roster move for the sake of
doing it just because you're sitting Anthony Richardson. Now, if you're 0-3, you need to win.
Clearly you got to do whatever you can to get there.
But I wouldn't necessarily shake up your roster completely
to go get one of these other quarterbacks
unless you have the ability to do so
and your roster is somewhat fluid.
Okay.
So, Anthony, someone asked,
Anthony Richardson or Brock Purdy?
Purdy for me.
Richardson for me.
Start Jonathan Taylor,
but you guys don't have him in the top five or
anything and just kind of a season-long question is there anything that's going to get jonathan
taylor higher up in the rankings because like i drafted him in the first round why is he 12th
he's not even having a bad year why is he 12th oh it's a great defense he's playing in a game with
a over under like 40 so the fact that he's 12th is pretty great. And I don't think if you drafted Jonathan Taylor in the first round,
you're thinking the problem is that Heath and Jamie aren't ranking them
high enough.
You're pretty happy with the fantasy points that he scored.
If you're,
if you're looking at YouTube,
scroll down to that fourth number.
What does it say?
11th.
Wait,
no,
no,
the third number,
the fourth line, the third number, 99%.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm just saying like, okay.
Yeah.
Well, we are seeing the problem here.
He's got three catches in three games.
And that is
what people were worried about.
I sort of get why he's a little bit
lower in the rank.
It's like you're starting Jordan Mason over Taylor.
Yes.
Yeah.
What about Charbonnet if Walker's out?
No, not this week.
Okay.
Steelers have been, Steelers are, you know,
have been arguably the best defense in football.
They've been so good.
Fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Second fewest fantasy points to running backs.
Fourth fewest points to wide receivers.
Didn't even bother looking at tight ends in this game.
But all right.
Anyway, most people are going to start him.
The Steelers have held Bijan Robinson to 3.8 yards per carry.
Javante to 1.6.
And J.K. Dobbins to 2.9.
I'm assuming we're sitting all of the Colts receivers?
Yes.
I have any.
Well, you should see the move that Adonai Mitchell made
on basically his only route of the game.
He ran two routes.
One of them was a screen pass to Josh Downs.
The other one was a deep target.
He destroyed this safety.
And Anthony Richardson made such a bad throw for an incompletion.
But good grief, Adonai Mitchell is
special. He's not playing right now.
His speed is special.
On the other side of the ball,
Justin Fields
or Derek Carr?
Fields.
Mayfield.
Mayfield.
Mayfield.
Caleb Williams against the Rams.
Fields.
Najee Harris is around 24th in the rankings.
And Singletary or Najee tonight?
Singletary.
Singletary.
There's no guarantee, like you said that warren is out it it certainly would make
harris more more exciting if there's no jaylen warren there and i really don't think like i i
was kind of making a joke earlier but i think if you were looking at like fantasy points per touch
i don't know that there's been especially ppr fantasy points per touch i don't know that there's been, especially PPR fantasy points per touch, I don't know that there's been a worse back
than Najee Harris.
Right. Now, are you saying that there's going to
be touchdown regression, though? Because he hasn't scored
yet.
It would be nice. I just don't.
Are they going to score more than one touchdown per game?
I mean,
look, this is the matchup for it to happen.
I mean, here's
the problem with Najee. He doesn't really make, you know,
he doesn't break away with big runs, obviously.
If he's going to score a touchdown,
it's probably going to be inside the five-yard line,
and Justin Fields, of course, is a threat there.
But if he catches three passes,
he caught five last week,
give him three catches, you know,
that makes him obviously a safer start.
All right, Steelers wide receivers.
I know you're not going to start Calvin Austin or anything,
but George Pickens is interesting
because the Colts have allowed 78 yards
or a touchdown to five wide receivers in three games.
Heath, start or sit George Pickens?
I would like to start George Pickens.
He's a borderline number two for me.
He's obviously a must start in the three wide receiver league.
He's probably a must start
if you start two wide receivers in a flex.
I do think that there is a risk that they just throw 15 passes. And so his 33% target shares five targets.
And that,
that can still turn out bad,
even in a good matchup.
Jamie,
you're more like the game you drafted him for though.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Let's,
let's get pickings.
Pickings.
Two cut lines for me behind Tyreereek Hill, ahead of John Dennis.
There you go.
I was about to ask that.
And Pat Fryermuth is going to get you eight points and seven points.
And he is right around 13th in the rankings, 13th or 14th in the rankings.
Pat Fryermuth.
Okay, that's it for Start the Steelers DST.
That's it for that game.
Cleveland is at Las Vegas.
Wowzer stat for this one.
The Raiders are number one in
pass rate. The Browns are number three in pass rate. Deshaun Watson has thrown, oh, let's just
get a barf bag for this. Deshaun Watson has thrown the third most passes in football. He is 26th in
yards. It's so bad. Your stat of the game is that the Raiders have allowed, I'm going to round up or down,
23 points to J.K. Dobbins in PPR,
17 to Henry, 28 to Chuba Hubbard,
plus a touchdown to Miles Sanders.
Please play Jerome Ford.
And Cleveland, in week two, they won,
and they had 29 carries, 22 by running back. So if they can, you know.
14 by Deontay Foreman.
Yeah, I know. But don't you feel like 14 by Deontay Foreman. I know, I know.
But don't you feel like
after last week,
the Foreman experiment
might be over?
I hope so.
It's hard to say.
I mean, you know,
when they got the win,
it was with Foreman,
you know, having more carry.
Not because of Deontay Foreman.
You hear it about like
14 times for 22 yards.
No, but bad.
You know how teams get.
Like they,
they, veteran guys, when they bounce around the
league and they still continue to get work it's because they do stuff right in practice and who
knows and i one thing i think we didn't bring up at all this week is we gotta start looking at the
nick chubb timeline right like this is this is the week he's eligible to come back and we five
have we heard anything no that's the thing it's like we haven't heard anything but we gotta start
to at least i think keep it on our radar is start looking for stuff and start seeing if he's going to be out there.
That could be a good trade chip, you know, for some team that is 3-0, 4-0 after this week.
Like, why would you not try and acquire him if you could still stash him?
And then he does come back, you know, for a team that's looking for some significant help.
Heath, I know you're sort of working out the differences between your projections and your rankings,
but are you going to keep Deshaun Watson 13th?
He is down, but still in the top 20.
Okay.
We don't want to start Deshaun Watson.
We don't want to start Gardner Minshew.
No guarantee he's going to even finish the game.
Did Amari Cooper practice yesterday?
I didn't see that he missed practice,
but I may have missed that one.
But starter said Amari Cooper. I mean, he's he missed practice, but I may have missed that one. But starter Sid Amari Cooper.
I mean, he's a must-start guy, but hopefully he's okay.
It was undisclosed.
It's always questionable for me when he starts the week with something
before they even practice.
And a revenge game.
Yeah, you're right.
So here's the thing with the Raiders so far.
The last one didn't work out well for them.
The Raiders have been bad against receivers,
but they've been terrible against slot receivers.
They've been good about big plays.
They've given up the second fewest completions
of 20-plus air yards.
However, they just lost a starting safety,
a guy who plays basically every snap,
Marcus Epps, for the season.
But it's been underneath stuff and slot stuff
that have killed the Raiders.
If it just,
if it happens again,
if like Elijah Moore has a big game or something,
then we might really need to track it.
But you know,
just,
just pointing that trend out,
but Cooper,
okay.
Cooper Tyreek.
Cooper.
All right.
There you go.
He's ahead of that line.
Let's hope David and Joku plays. If David and Joku plays, would you start them? Yes. All right, there you go. He's ahead of that line. Let's hope David Njoku plays.
If David Njoku plays, would you start him?
Yes.
I mean, it's so bad.
Yeah.
Gardner Minshew, no.
Zamir White, Alexander Madison.
Do we like either of these guys?
Madison over Zamir.
I've got Zamir over Madison,
but they're both basically desperation flexes.
Which game would you rather watch, the Raiders-Browns or Dolphins-Titans?
Raiders-Browns.
Or is it Clockwork Orange where they just have to hold your eyes open?
Oh, gosh.
Boy, I would rather watch the Dolphins-Titans game. I feel like I'll get more useful fantasy analysis out of it
to help me predict the upcoming games.
Okay.
Yeah.
Which contract do you think is worse right now?
Deshaun Watson or Tua?
Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson.
And Deshaun Watson, you know, how is this happening?
How did he go from one of the best in football
to one of the very worst?
He is in his prime.
Is it his shoulder?
I don't know.
It's unbelievable.
No, I mean, but like,
yeah, I mean, I asked this to Jacob
on Beyond the Box score,
and Jacob said karma,
and that might be the answer, but him being a bad, you know, I asked this to Jacob on Beyond the Box score, and Jacob said karma, and that might be the answer.
But him being a bad, you know, like maybe a bad person,
I don't know, you know, whatever.
Okay, I'm not touching that.
That doesn't mean that he should be bad at football.
I don't understand how Deshaun Watson has been so bad at football.
And obviously I'm disgusted by all of it.
Devontae Adams.
That's a great, by the way, great comment in the chat from NoThankYou.
You got to scroll up a little bit now what do you say no thank you that's the name yeah
i'm not seeing it can you sum it up uh something about dan not seeing clockwork orange but he's
watched every episode of this is us all right uh we love a good Dan rip. Oh, there we go.
Guaranteed, yeah.
Sorry, Devante Adams
or Amari Cooper?
Cooper.
They are back-to-back for me.
I've got Adams one spot ahead of Cooper, but
I'm not sitting either one of them.
Are you starting
Jacoby Myers?
No. No no desperation play.
Start Brock Bowers and don't.
Oh,
DST like a DST in this game.
Which one do you like better?
Browns.
Browns.
If miles Garrett doesn't play,
we have to reassess that.
Don't watch a clockwork orange,
by the way,
there's nothing enjoyable about it.
It is like the book is fantastic.
Testing the limits of what you as a human being can,
can tolerate.
Like,
it's just awful.
Yeah.
I'm like offended by that movie.
Okay.
We're going to take one last break.
Theater guy.
I'm surprised.
Theater guy.
Yeah.
We'll take one last break.
And I think we have two more games to get to.
We'll be right back on FFT.
Start or sit.
Medi mediocre quarterback,
Patrick Mahomes.
Probably start him unless you have Jaden Daniels.
I can't believe we're here with my homes again.
I cannot believe we're here at my homes again.
I would start Baker Mayfield over my homes.
Anyone else?
I'm not there yet, but
another week of this, like...
He threw 39
passes last week. He got exactly what
we wanted, and he scored 20.4 fantasy
points. He has the lowest air yards
per pass attempt in the NFL. It's pathetic.
5.2 air yards per pass
attempt. It will go up. It'll be low,
but it will go up from that.
All right.
Are you expecting Kareem Hunt to have a significant role
in the sense that we can't trust Carson Steele,
who did have 17 carries last week?
So is his touches coming at the expense of Steele,
or are they coming at the expense of Pirine,
or the expense of both?
Pirine did
have six carries, so that would be an easy
substitution there. I don't
think he's taking Pirine off the field on third down.
I don't see why that would be the case, but I have no idea.
He might.
I don't really trust Steele
anyway. He's
a high-end flex
for me. He's not a
starting running back for me.
I think Kareem Hunt's usage is probably going to be determined
by the first couple of times he touches the ball
and whether he looks like complete dust
or if he's able to make somebody miss and make a big play
and then he touches the ball more.
I think he could have two touches in the game
and go back on the practice squad and we never see him again,
or he could do something good and carve out a bigger role.
Steel or Dowdle is a question we have here.
Steel.
Steel.
I mean, look, this is based on what the Chargers could look like offensively.
Yeah.
And defensively as well.
I mean, they may not have both, so they definitely don't have Derwin James,
but offensively, the two tackles are not going to play.
Herbert may not play like this is, this could be ugly from the Chargers, but like the chief should have the ball
all day. So who, who is going to be the biggest factor here in the backfield? Like I'm going to
lean on the guy that just got 17 carries. And I know, yes, Kareem Hunt is going to be active,
but 17 carries potentially against the team that is going to be gassed without two of their best players.
That's a number two running back for me.
Kareem Hunt is 29 years old, coming off a season
with averaging three yards per carry.
Over the last two seasons, 258 carries for Kareem Hunt.
His longest run is 24 yards.
He's not going to do well, I don't think.
But will he just be annoying enough for Carson Steele? I don't think Carson Steele he's not gonna do well I don't think but will he just be annoying
enough for Carson Steele like I don't think Carson Steele is really going to be a big play he's a
fullback no but he's he's I think he's gotta be better than Kareem Hunt I think Kareem Hunt's
probably just a bad running back at this point but yeah all right yeah... The reason why guys are on the street at that age. Yeah.
Carson Steele or Cam Akers if Mixon and Pierce are out?
Steele.
Akers.
And I think I asked you this earlier, but let's ask it again because the Chiefs have been so good against the run.
Carson Steele or J.K. Dobbins?
Steele.
It's Dobbins for me.
Start Rasheed Rice, sit worthy, right?
Yep. Yeah., right? Yep.
Yeah.
And Kelsey, you've got to start him.
I mean, what are you going to do?
This is the week.
This is the week, Travis Kelsey.
But I don't really have much more confidence in him than I do Mark Andrews.
It's entirely just throwing up my hands, and I'm not going to cut him, so I guess I'll
start him again.
Jaden Reed or Quinton Johnston?
Question we have here.
Reed easily if Love plays.
And what if he doesn't?
So they both have backups.
I'll take Reed with a backup as opposed to Johnston with
Taylor Heineken. I do think I
saw yesterday that Justin Herbert said he feels better on
Wednesday of this week than he did Wednesday of last week.
So it kind of feels like he's probably going to play.
He's played through so many injuries.
He might not play well,
but it feels like he's probably going to play.
Steel or Ford from,
from the chat.
Ford.
Ford.
If he gets in a full practice day.
And yeah,
any, any chargers that you chargers that you are excited about?
None.
None that I'm excited about?
No.
I would say Dobbins if you can.
Yeah, where's Dobbins in your rankings?
25, 27, or 28?
Got a Dobbins or Pollard question.
Pollard.
Kincaid or Kelsey from the chat?
I think I still have Kelsey ranked higher,
but I should probably switch that.
Yeah, I've got Kelsey one spot higher,
but I'm not like,
it'd be great if one of them scores double digits.
All right, don't start McConkie.
Chiefs DST is a must start.
New England at San Francisco.
All right, stat of the game.
The good and the bad.
The good from last week,
Brandon Ayuk had a 33%
target share in week three.
And he was wide open down the field
for what could have been a huge play. I think, Jamie, you mentioned
that yesterday. I hadn't even
seen it until this morning, but I don't know why
Purdy didn't pull the trigger.
He had Ayuk for a shot. He was on that side of the field.
He rolled left. Yeah, it was great.
It looked like he just didn't see him.
And then the bad. Stud-wide that side of the field. He rolled left. Yeah, it was a great setup. It's like he just didn't see him. And then the bad.
Stud-wide receivers against the Patriots.
Metcalf had a huge game.
Chris Gonzalez did not give up the big play.
Jamar Chase, 6 for 62 on six targets.
Garrett Wilson, 5 for 33 and a touchdown on nine targets.
Any hesitation with Ayuk this week?
Don't forget Smith and the jig button the same game.
He's a slot guy, though.
There's still two receivers of prominence here. week. Don't forget Smith and the Jigba in the same game. So that, yeah, but he's a slot guy though. So.
I mean, there's, there's still two receivers of prominence here.
All right.
I think Christian Gonzalez is probably going to follow Brandon Ayuk around.
Are you, are you hesitant at all with Ayuk?
No.
Hesitant in terms of must start slam dunk. Yes.
Hesitant in terms of, are you starting him at three receiver leagues?
No,
uh,
he's no,
no, you're not hesitant as in you are starting him.
Yeah.
Not hesitant to start him in three receiver leagues.
Um,
he is just outside the top 20 for me.
I think again,
to,
to what we've talked about,
you know,
like if you have receivers that you like,
and that includes the guy in his own team,
I probably would still start.
I,
you go over Jennings with the hope that this is the the iuk week but it's it's got to be troubling at this point like
you've seen at least one game so far without those guys there and now kittle may return
that's true maybe christian gonzalez will cover joan jennings um and i think like it's just such
a different thing
between what we were talking about
at the beginning of the show with shut down corners.
You mentioned those three wide receivers.
They all three scored at least 12 PPR fantasy points.
That was the floor.
That's not a bad floor for anybody.
Yeah, Gonzalez is not in the same range as Sertan yet.
No.
And Heath, it's not close for you.
You have Ayuk 12th, and you have Jennings 26th.
Yep.
If Kittle plays, then what?
Ayuk's probably 20, and Jennings is 30.
Okay.
And Purdy would move up, I assume?
Because he's around 14th for you guys,
14th for Jamie,
15th for Heath,
13th for Dave.
I would start him over.
Like I have Dalton one spot ahead of him just because Dalton matchup is so
good.
There's a,
there's a pretty good gap in my projections after Darnold.
I've actually got pretty at 13 now.
So it'd be Darnold at 12 and then pretty at 13,
but I'll probably just leave Darnold at 12.
How do we feel about
Ramondre Stevenson this week?
Very similar for me
as I feel about Dobbins.
Like, not a slam dunk start.
Low end RB2.
I've got him two spots
ahead of Dobbins.
So I agree.
I would start Steele
over Stevenson.
I would start Najee
over Stevenson.
I think both those guys
are in better spots.
I would start Stevenson over both.
Would you start anyone in the Patriots passing game,
including Hunter Henry?
No.
I mean,
again,
you know,
this is similar to like Seattle facing corner quarterbacks.
The Niners have not faced any tough tight ends yet,
and they're the best team against defending tenants.
This is a question here. I mean, this, I think,
will probably be an easy one for you. Ramondre, Pollard, or
Chuba Hubbard? Pick two.
Stevenson's on the bench. I would agree with.
Jawan Jennings or Chuba Hubbard?
Chuba.
Fryermuth
or Hunter Henry?
Fryermuth.
I've got Henry higher.
Brock Purdy or...
You said you have Darnold ahead of him, right?
Yep.
Heath also has Darnold ahead of him.
All right.
Brock Purdy is just outside the top 12.
Anthony Richardson or Purdy?
Heath has Richardson, but Jamie has Purdy.
Okay.
I think if you want floor, then Purdy's the right play there.
But Richardson has more ceiling.
And Jordan Mason is still a must start.
And we talked about San Francisco's receivers and tight end.
And you can start their DST.
And holy cow, I have another game?
Geez.
All right, let's do this one quickly.
Denver at the Jets.
Aaron Rodgers or Brock Purdy?
Purdy.
Purdy.
Garrett Wilson
or
Jerome Ford, Najee Harris?
Harris, for sure,
and potentially Ford.
I would go with the running backs and non-PPR.
I'd go Ford, Wilson, Harris, and full PPR.
We should probably do some more Garrett Wilson.
Garrett Wilson or Jamison Williams against Seattle?
Wilson.
Jamison.
Garrett Wilson or Pickens?
Pickens.
Wilson.
All right.
Obviously, Heath is higher on Wilson.
He has him 18th.
Jamie has Wilson 29th. If. All right. Obviously, Heath is higher on Wilson. He has him 18th.
Jamie has Wilson 29th.
And if you're curious... You stuck with all the guys against Sertand all season, right?
Yeah.
Well, not Pickens, I don't think.
That makes sense.
All righty.
Don't start a Bronco if you can.
And you could still pick up Cortland Sutton.
He's 75% rostered.
Honestly, I did watch every Bo Nix drop back.
He played much, much better,
and PFF even graded him much, much better.
Has been the second-best rookie quarterback so far.
Who am I missing? Behind who?
Daniel Daniels.
Oh, right, that guy.
Yeah, he's OK.
Yeah. I mean, Bo Nix was so bad the first two games and he actually like did some and he threw the ball downfield.
It's not like it was encouraging stuff.
Don't think he's going to do it again.
But, you know, could be good for Sutton.
I mean, this week could be good for Sutton down the line.
We owe Alan Lazard.
Alan Lazard starter set.
Number three receiver. For the or sit? Number three receiver.
For the definition of a number three receiver,
I'd start him over Ridley.
I'd start him over the Jags.
Tyler Conklin or Pat Fryermuth and Hunter Henry?
See, I think if you look at what Rodgers will probably do,
he's probably going to lean on these other guys,
not named Garrett Wilson.
So Conklin for me.
I'll go Henry, then Muth, then Conklin.
Okay, I'm looking at some questions in the chat.
Not sure if we have any for this game,
so that will do it.
Don't think there are any more.
No more surprise games.
We are done with today's show,
and we will talk to you tomorrow on Friday
for Starter Sit for the NFC home games.
Let's see if the Giants can
change history or start
new history today and break a six
game losing streak and maybe record a sack
against the Dallas Cowboys. We'll
talk to you tomorrow with a recap of that game.
It's going to be three and one should be three and one
if they win this. Right. But there'll be one in
three. So
I will talk to you tomorrow.
Later.
Later.
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