Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Start Guerendo Tonight!? Bo Nix, Jaylen Waddle, Jonathan Taylor and More (12/12 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Apparently Isaac Guerendo is going to play, so we start our show by ranking Guerendo before telling you a player we love (8:40) and a player to avoid (11:15). Is this going to be a good Jameis Winston... week? ... News and notes (13:40) and One Question for Each Game (21:30)! Start Jaylen Waddle? Jonathan Tyalor? Jalen Hurts? A.J. Brown? Calvin Ridley? We also give you a Workhorse to Watch (33:15) for Week 15 ... Start or Sit for Dolphins-Texans (34:45), Chiefs-Browns (41:30), Jets-Jaguars (48:15), Colts-Broncos (57:15), Steelers-Eagles (1:04:50), Bucs-Chargers (1:10:00), Falcons-Raiders (1:16:15) and Bengals-Titans (1:20:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Please VOTE for Fantasy Football Today in the Sports Podcast Awards in the "Best Fantasy Betting and Gaming Podcast" category: https://bit.ly/3Zxw3uS Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:53 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Oh yeah, let's do it. It's playoff time. It's Thursday the 12th. Tomorrow's Friday the 13th. I'm excited about that. But today hopefully won't be a scary night of football. We might even get Isaac Arendo. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today presented by BED-MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. So I just want to give out a few stats here. We have, I think, some really intriguing games this week, especially on today's slate. For the season, the Cincinnati Bengals are averaging right around 285
Starting point is 00:02:28 gross passing yards per game, which leads the NFL. That's not including sacks, not taking sacks out. 285. Since the Eagles bye week, nine games ago, the Eagles are averaging about 185. So think about that, that's horrible. 185 passing yards per game, 100 less than what the Bengals are averaging for this season.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's the Eagles in their last nine games. Speaking of Joe Burrow, he's the only quarterback to throw for more than 257 yards against the Chargers this week. Can Baker Mayfield get there this season? Can Baker Mayfield get there this week? And if you're interested in a Jets running back, running backs are averaging 29.8 carries per game against the Jaguars in Jacksonville's last
Starting point is 00:03:13 six games. So those are some of the things we're going to be talking about today. Good morning, Heath. Ready for the playoffs. I'm very excited. I think we are getting Isaac Garando tonight. Adam Schefter reporting that Garando says he's good to go. Just like he said on Sunday, they just were being extra precautionary with him and I'm fired up, ready to start him in the playoffs. Can I get some of my fab back for Patrick Taylor? You cannot. No refunds. Jamie, starter sit Isaac Arendo tonight. It's always a little dicey when you get one of these situations, right,
Starting point is 00:03:48 where a guy is hurt, doesn't practice, come into a game short week. Are we going to see peak Isaac Arendo or are we going to see a split? I mean, I guess you have to start him, right? It depends on what you
Starting point is 00:03:59 have on your team. I haven't updated my rankings. I don't know where you put him, Heath, but he'll probably be around 20. To be safe. I, I, I'm, and listen, I could get fooled. This could look dumb, but I'm just going to believe what he said after the game on
Starting point is 00:04:18 Sunday and what we're here here reading and Schaefter's tweets this morning. And I'm just going, even if you projected him for 15 carries, he's averaging 5.9 yards per carry and facing a defense that gives up 4.6 or 4.7 yards per carry and it's the 49ers. I, I the most athletic running back to ever test at the combine. 100% starting top 12. Yeah. Here's a question from our guy Robert Thomas.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Garendo tonight or wait on Zach Charbonne? It's easy. Has to be Garendo. If Walker doesn't practice today, I'd wait. Okay. All right. If you have any Garendo questions, fire away. You know, I was I was debating between Patrick Taylor and Ramondre Stevenson in a league and that was
Starting point is 00:05:05 going to be really hard for me. Now obviously it's going to be Stevenson. This is all assuming that Garendo is in, but if I had Garendo, I would not hesitate. I would start Garendo over Ramondre Stevenson. In other words, I view Garendo better than I viewed Patrick Taylor. Oh, of course. Even though Garendo's coming in with an injury. Obviously if he were healthy, that would be a no brainer, but we still, with the injury,
Starting point is 00:05:23 we still view him better than we viewed Taylor. It's, it's been one of the most mysteriously reported injuries that I can remember because again, after the game, he said, I'm fine. It was just precautionary. We've got a game on Thursday. In the next two days, we heard high ankle sprain. We heard foot sprain. He didn't practice for two days.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And then the day of the game, Adam Shepter is like he says he's fine. He feels good. He did practice yesterday though, right? He was limited yesterday. I thought even though it was a walkthrough that they they it was a walkthrough that they designated him as limited. He's not OK, OK, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I don't I don't believe they practiced all week. So let's so a few Garendo questions here from the chat Garendo or Malik neighbors. Neighbors Garendo for me. Garendo or Br from the chat. Garendo or Malik neighbors? Neighbors. Garendo for me. Garendo or Braylon Allen? Or that could be Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Garendo for both. Yep. Okay, Garendo or Zay Flowers? Garendo. Garendo. And Ryan says, if you start Garendo. Garendo. And Ryan says, if you start Garendo, you will regret it when he pulls a Bucky Irving and sits out after three plays.
Starting point is 00:06:30 That's the concern. I mean, look, you know, this, man, it's just so frustrating. It really is so frustrating. Like, what if they're winning and they pull him and he doesn't do anything to help you? Like there's- They were winning and they pulled him less than him
Starting point is 00:06:44 after he scored 27 fantasy points or something. Yeah. I mean, look, he's awesome. He's got the chance to really be special, but oh boy. Yeah, I know. Garendo or Tyrone Tracy? Garendo. Garendo. Garendo or Najee Harris?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Garendo. Garendo. Garendo or Alvin Camara. These are all from the chat. Camara. And I want to admit something because I'm being like super optimistic. I don't actually know if he's going to lead after three plays. Nobody does. I'm just saying like he has the upside to score 30 fantasy points tonight. He's shown us that. I'm not sitting him Okay. Here's the fun one to finish. Garendo or Kirk cousins in super flex
Starting point is 00:07:30 cousins. That's a good one. Um, I'd probably, if cousins in six, grindo and four, I have, okay. I have a, a stat about Kirk cousins. So the, so the Falcons have allowed the second lowest pressure rate off of their offensive line, their pass blocking second lowest pressure rate in each of their last two games. And in those two games, Kirk Cousins has zero touchdowns, six interceptions, and I think 11.9 fantasy points combined. So you're saying it's better when he's pressure. Yeah, exactly. All right. Let's get to players we love and players to avoid. I'm just going to say avoid Kirk Cousins this week, even in a good matchup. But Jamie, who do we love? Who's
Starting point is 00:08:09 our star of the week? Brian Robinson Jr. Last time I did this, he got hurt. He pulled the hopefully not. I'm not even saying he got hurt in the game against Dallas, but his, his setup is fantastic. The Saints run defense has been absolutely abysmal. Back-to-back weeks where running back has gone for over 18 PPR points. One of those was Tyrone Tracy. The two games that he's played so far this season without Austin Eckler have been
Starting point is 00:08:34 his two best games of the year. Week four, he had over 20 PPR points against the Titans before their bi-week. He had 17 PPR points. I think it's gonna be a huge game for Brian Robinson. He is my number 10 running back for this week. How do you match Brian Robinson up with some of these wide
Starting point is 00:08:49 receivers in PPR leagues like hot Jerry Judy or Malik neighbors that people are worried about or Garrett Wilson might maybe in between you know, guys that are going to get the catches don't have the same matchup maybe as Robinson. Judy Robinson, the other two guys. So I think Judy is just too hot right now to sit in a lot of scenarios. Wilson's had one good game in his last four and neighbors is touchdown allergic right now. So Robinson, let me look, Robinson's is, you know, again, if you're just going on a one game sample size,
Starting point is 00:09:29 he's coming off a huge performance and the runway is clear. You know, the big concern honestly they have for Brian Robinson, do they blow out the Saints? And we have the same situation that happened with the Titans where you're getting another guy like Chris Rodriguez, getting all of the, uh, you know, fun
Starting point is 00:09:45 touches in the fourth quarter. All right, Heath, uh, who do you love this week? I'm going with Jamus. I mean, I think everybody loves in one way or another Jamus right now, but, and I've talked about it plenty this week. Um, 22 fantasy points per game since he became the starter that includes two games against the Steelers where he scored a combined 30 fantasy points, but the 18 that he scored against them last week was the
Starting point is 00:10:11 second best game against the Steelers since week five. So we should give him some credit for that. The chief's defense is not what the chief's defense used to be. They just brought Stephen Nelson out of retirement. They're so banged up in the secondary. They're giving up 269 passing yards per game over their last four. They only gave up that many once in 10, their first 10 games. Uh, I think it's not a bad matchup. Jamis is hot.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I expect 25 fantasy points. I just put them in my lineup ahead of Baker Mayfield and Anthony Richardson. So let's go Jamis. I like it. Don't ask me. Yeah, I like Richardson better lineup ahead of Baker Mayfield and Anthony Richardson. So let's go Jamis. I like it. Don't ask me. Yeah, I like Richardson better, but I do like Jamis this week. All right. Don't ask me why I have three quarterbacks. I don't want to talk about it. Players to avoid Jamie, who are we avoiding? Let's see. I would like to avoid Tyrone Tracy this week. I just think the setup is going to be tough for him, you know, in a game where there are huge underdogs, offensive line concerns, and he hasn't exactly been getting the carries. Now he did get the catches last week, but now you're back to Tommy DeVito. I just think this offense is a complete disaster
Starting point is 00:11:14 right now that, you know, you're hoping for Tracy, you're hoping for neighbors. This team is coming off a bye in terms of the Ravens with fresh legs. So hard to sit someone like this, but I think it's going to be a difficult game for him. If he doesn't score and he's not getting five catches, which we've seen at times during his run this year, I think it's going to be tougher for Tracy this week. And Heath, who are you avoiding? I'll stay in the same game and it's kind of the same story.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It's Isaiah Pacheco. I do love the fact that he seems to have already taken over the backfield from Kareem Hunt. He's not quite been the same as a rusher, but the bigger problem is that the Chief's rush rate has just plummeted the last month, at the same time as the defense isn't as good as it used to be. They over basically a 42% rush team, which is middle of the pack, early in the season, the first 10 weeks.
Starting point is 00:12:01 The last four weeks, 33% of their offensive plays have been run plays. You know, they're going to be behind in the fourth quarter and Samaj P. Ryan will be out there running the two minute warning to try to catch up. Um, I, Pacheco is not a top 24 running back for me. I would start Tyrone Tracy over them. Yeah. For the chiefs in their last seven games, they are either first or second in the NFL and pass attempts. And I believe they've run the most plays in the NFL, but they have the fourth, fourth highest pass rate in the NFL and pass attempts. And I believe they've run the most plays in the NFL, but they have the fourth highest pass rate in the NFL. And I thought Jamie, like Jamie brought this up yesterday on CBS Sports Network.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Like if they get to the one yard line, is it get Kareem Hunt to touch down against his old team? Yeah, that would be annoying. All right, well, we will talk about all of this on Sunday morning to help you out. If you need some more line up advice, please join us Sunday morning at 1130 a.m. Eastern. We will, yeah, we will answer your questions
Starting point is 00:12:51 for almost 90 minutes. It's just a fun Q and A. Me, Jamie, me, Dave, and Heath, although I will not be on for all of it. Jamie will be on CBS Sports HQ at 10 a.m. Eastern on Sunday. And that, not for the entire three hours, but you'll get some great football and fantasy advice there on CBS Sports HQ beginning at 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:13:10 So youtube.com slash fantasy football today at 11 30 a.m. Eastern. CBS Sports HQ, watch it on the CBS Sports app at 10 a.m. Eastern. Let's do some news and notes here. Tommy DeVito, as Jamie mentioned, will start for the Giants. Drew Lock is injured right now. So probably notito, as Jamie mentioned, we'll start for the Giants. Drew Locke is injured right now.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So, um, probably not as in my opinion, not as good from a leak neighbors because he was getting some, some more explosive plays with Drew Locke. I think statistically, the big problem is probably just not as many plays that go forward. Uh, Tommy DeVito has one of the most insane sack rates of any quarterback ever. 11% this year, 16% last year. That's the percentage of the times that he drops back that he gets sacked. Um, I think drew lock was, was closer to, uh, 9%.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So yeah, more sacks, fewer passes. Not good. Okay. So they played, they played one game together. Obviously, uh, that's the only game that DeVito started. It was the game against Tampa Bay. He had nine targets, six catches for 64 yards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I'll probably still get targets. It's just, right, I mean. Ravens DST, hooray. Aiden O'Connell might play on Monday. They haven't released the practice report yet. They will do that today. I don't, he probably won't practice today, but O'Connell still might play.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Joe Burrow has a knee injury. He says he's going to play. Will Levis apparently looked good in practice, so it looks like he's going to play against Cincinnati. Will Levis had the lowest ADOT or air yards for pass attempt of his career last week and he stunk. So probably get back to airing it out. Justin Herbert has a thigh contusion and an ankle sprain.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And we talked about him as potentially a tough call because he's got Tampa Bay and hopefully he gets McConkie back. McConkie was limited, but you gotta assume he's not gonna be able to run as much. You know, that had been a big part of his success when he had that great four game stretch. He even talked about how it really hurt him against the Chiefs last week,
Starting point is 00:14:59 just not able to run as much. So thigh contusion and an ankle sprain for Herbert. If you guys think I'm wrong about that, please jump in. Derek Carr has a concussion and a broken hand and we're not expecting him this week. They haven't announced a starter yet for the Saints. Running back news, Isak Guarendo is pulling a LaRusso. He's going to fight tonight. Ken Walker is day to day. You guys can't be feeling optimistic about Ken Walker playing this week, are you? Not at this point. I mean, the good news is, is that it doesn't seem long term unless you're a Zach Charbonnet manager and you want to see him be out for a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But it's just, it's going to be frustrating when he comes back because he's obviously not going to be a hundred percent until he is ready to go, which doesn't seem like it's going to be this week. And then will they go right back to him as the lead guy, you know? So again, referencing our show yesterday, we have a former Seahawks running back on the show and Robert Turbin said he thinks that, you know, Charbonneau's earned the chance to get more touches, which makes sense. I will say that in my, in the ultimate revenge playoff matchup after Jamie beat
Starting point is 00:16:03 me by 80 last week, um, he has Zach Charbonneau. So we're very much hoping for a return of Ken Walker, chop those touches up. Maybe Zach Charbonneau scores like eight fantasy points. That'd be great. All right. It would go, it would be aligned with how the season's gone for me with that team.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Cause anytime I get somebody back healthy, that another player gets hurt, you know, so not fun. It's fantasy football for you. Tony Pollard, mispractice with an ankle injury. Still expecting him right now. Bucky Irving, mispractice. So I can't say we're expecting him at the moment, but things could change.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Alexander Madison should play this week, but Sincere McCormick is going to remain the starter. So just to get it out there, you'd start Garendo over McCormick, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And wide receiver news. Sincerely, I would do it. Yeah. Sincerely, you would start Garendo.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Don't confuse people. Demarcus Robinson was limited. We'll see if he's able to play tonight. DK Metcalf practiced in full. I know Jamie, you said you wanted to see him practice in full. He did doing that on Wednesday, might be a good sign We'll preview that game tomorrow
Starting point is 00:17:06 George Pickens likely out Josh Downs was limited Sterling Shepherd miss practice Lad McConkey was limited Rashad Bateman practiced in full Cedric Tillman and Romeo Dobbs They're both still in the concussion protocol, but they're making progress So they have a better chance to play this week, obviously, than they did last week, Cedric Tillman and Romeo Dobbs. Noah Brown, bad news for Noah Brown and the commanders. Sorry to see it, likely out for the season, Noah Brown.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Tight end news, David Njoku, day to day with a hamstring injury. I'm keeping my eye on this one here. Missing a Wednesday practice isn't usually a big deal, so hopefully he's gonna be okay, David Njoku. Tyler Higby not gonna play tonight. Evan Ingram missed practice with a shoulder injury. He has a bad matchup against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And Trey McBride was limited with a knee injury. We'll see, not gonna panic yet on the Wednesday stuff. Trent Williams is out tonight. And it looks like the Lions are gonna get Taylor Decker back back their left tackle. Houston offensive guard you scrugs is expected to miss a few games. On defense, Sauce Gardner is going to play. Jair Alexander practicing full for the Packers.
Starting point is 00:18:15 The Giants lost another defensive player. Safety Tyler Nubin is out for the season. Hello, Nubin. Carolina cornerback J.C. Horn is day to day as they get Dallas. This is the big one. Denver cornerback Riley Moss mispracticed. doesn't look like he's going to play this week against the Colts and they were so bad without him. I was, I was kind of like an exaggerated performance of how they were without Riley Moss last week.
Starting point is 00:18:36 That'd probably be better, but they could use their number two cornerback. That was, I don't think they're playing Levi Wallace. That was two weeks ago. Yeah. It was against Jamis. I mean, what's the difference in passing yards per game between Jamis Winston and Anthony Richardson? Why 150? Drops between the Browns receivers and the Colts receivers too. Yeah, that's a problem. Um,
Starting point is 00:18:59 Reid Blankenship could be coming back for the Eagles. Marshaan Lattimore could make his commander's debut against the Saints. Wouldn't that be nice? Harrison Butker could play this week. All right. We are going to get to one question for each game very shortly. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, one question for each game, we'll start breaking down the matchups after this.
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Starting point is 00:21:20 This deal is exclusive to listeners. So get yours now in time for the holidays. Terms and conditions apply. All right. One question for each game. Miami is at Houston. So Heath, who do you think steps up in the Dolphins passing game? Is it a wide receiver week?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Is it a tight end week? What do you think? I think it's an everyone, but Jalen Wattle week. Oh. I think it's a, it's a John Oh week. It's an HN week. It's a Tyreek week. There's always one guy that gets left out and we are, I would say, unless
Starting point is 00:21:53 Jamie has some more insight, pretty much guessing which guy it's going to be on a given week. I thought Jacob Gibbs stats on Jalen wattle against zone defense was enough to speculate that waddles the one that gets left out this week. There's one thing you're forgetting. Where's Jalen Waddell from? Oh is it a homecoming game? Houston, Texas. So is Ty Riggs getting left out? I think it's gonna be a big game for all of them. He he's played the Texans twice in his career. He had a five for 80 game and a eight for 80 game,
Starting point is 00:22:26 something like that. I don't know, he hasn't scored a touchdown against him yet. Both games were in Miami. One of those was without Tua. So I think it's gonna continue to be Jaylen while involved, whether he has success or not, we'll find out. But I think it's just an opportunity here for a run game that's struggling.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I know the Texans run defense is not the same with who they're missing personnel wise, but there's a chance here for if the run game that's struggling. I know the Texas run defense is not the same with, you know, who they're missing personnel wise, but there's a chance here for if the run game struggles for two to be 40 plus attempts. And we're looking at probably eight plus targets for all those guys, all their main options. Jamie, by the way, I was saying the Texas thing, the Houston thing with a, with a smile on his face, just, you know, if you're not watching, so I don't think he's going to base his
Starting point is 00:23:02 rankings just on that, but we do like homecoming games. Oh, he's top 10 because of his back. I do want to mention a couple things for this matchup here. I was going to wait until we got into the game, but might as well just do it now. If you look at Devon A. Chan's receptions with Tua Tonga Bailoa, I mean, they've been very high, but the games where he's been a little bit less have been games against teams that do better against past catching running backs.
Starting point is 00:23:26 The Texans happen to be one of those teams. They give up, I think, the fourth fewest yards per game, receiving yards per game to running backs. So maybe he doesn't get his eight catches. Maybe it's four or five. Additionally, John O'Smith, I mentioned it last week, he had a three game stretch, 21 or more fantasy points in each game
Starting point is 00:23:43 against really easy competition. He faced the Jets last week. The Jets are good against tight ends. He had zero three game stretch, 21 or more fantasy points in each game against really easy competition. He faced the Jets last week. The Jets are good against tight ends. He had zero catches in regulation. The Texans, they might be paper tigers. They might be overrated. They haven't faced the toughest competition, but I think they're fourth best against tight ends.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah, but look lately though. Yeah, I'm just saying like this might be fewer catches for those two guys because it's you know, for HN and and John who what are they that bad lately against tight ends? Yeah, I mean, you know, you kept bringing this up, I think, prior to the bye week, but it was the the chig big pass. He had the 70 yard touchdown there. That's kind of fluky. But it's been I think like four guys I don't have in front of me but like four guys in
Starting point is 00:24:22 the last three games have had at least eight or more points, you know, so they're, they're, you're seeing some flaws and, you know, with Petrie not being there, it's, you know, some opportunities in a secondary that's not the same linebacker and core is not the same, you know, so there, there are guys missing. There's a chance here for, I think all of them to have some success. I've got at least 11 to four straight tight ends. Right. But, but like Evan Ingram having seven catches for 41 yards on nine targets does not tell me
Starting point is 00:24:46 that they're bad against tight ends. He did get a lot of targets. I'm not saying sit John who. No, I know what you're saying, but when you're talking about a player like Ingram in the quarterback situation, I believe that was the Lawrence, but you're also talking about this situation's better.
Starting point is 00:25:01 These two players, Lawrence and Ingram where they are at at that time are not as dialed in as Tua and John. I also think, and this makes it really interesting to watch, but really frustrating to predict, like we talked about it earlier this week, Mike McDaniel and D'Vico Ryan's know each other very well, came from the same coaching staff. There's a, this is one of the best chess matches of the season. What's Ryan going to take away?
Starting point is 00:25:28 What's McDaniel's going to try to exploit in his defense? Um, that's gonna be really interesting to watch. Who wins a, uh, an FFT chess tournament tournament? Uh, I don't know. I have no, I have no reason to speculate as to how good you guys are at chess. Oh, chess? I'd lose. Thomas Schaefer is my guess. I played quite a bit at chess, but not for a few years.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Oh, Heath is my guess then. Dan would say he's the best because he's played it since high school and he's never lost. Dave's more of a poker guy than a chess guy. Oh yeah, Dan would say, I'll say one thing though, I'm actually pretty good at chess. That's what he'd say. All right, let's go to Kansas City at Cleveland. Shout out to blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I was gonna say starter sit Isaiah Pacheco. So Heath would say, no, we're gonna sit Isaiah Pacheco. So Jamie start or sit, well actually, actually, how much would the availability of Cedric Tillman impact your Jerry Judy ranking? At this point, not very much. I just think he's so dialed in with Jameis, and that's the good guy in the passing game right now.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He's just awesome. It's so funny. If you were to say at any point during his Denver tenure, what Jerry Judy needs is Jameis Winston. It's amazing. Everyone needs James Winston. He's great for receivers, right? Yeah, but I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:26:51 like if you would say anytime during his tenure in Denver, like what Jerry Judy really needs to get paired up with James Winston. Like that's what's gonna unlock his potential. So yeah, Judy still, no, I wouldn't change my rankings. If you haven't signed up yet for Bet MGM, what are you waiting for? Let's do it.
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Starting point is 00:27:25 If your bet loses, just make sure that you use the bonus code fantasy when you sign up. The Jets are at the Jaguars. Heath ranked the wide receivers in this game. So I will rank it. Ooh, I think I've got it. Adams, Wilson, Thomas. They are all inside of my top 20 for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And it's a little bit different in, nope, nevermind, Thomas Adams Wilson. Okay, Thomas Adams Wilson. All right, and later when we talk about this game, I'll give you a concerning trend for the Jets wide receivers. Will it matter? Indianapolis is at Denver.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Are we sitting Jonathan Taylor, Jamie? No, this is hopefully an opportunity for him to find the end zone. He's not gonna catch many passes if at all, but I kind of view him similar to what I do James Cook at this point. Guy that's not gonna be heavily involved in the passing game, you're hoping for him to be successful on the ground.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Cook has a higher ceiling is from what we've seen so far, but this is an offensive line is getting healthy and Ryan Kelly back, you know, which I think is huge. Their center for the Colts Broncos run defense has shown at times this year you can run on them. I think they'll be committed to it. I think the Colts offense is going to show up here. I just don't think the Denver defense is going to be able to shut them down. Now, obviously there's the potential of Anthony Richardson and his turnovers, but if he plays under control, like we've seen lately, there'll be a couple of
Starting point is 00:28:57 chances for, you know, Jonathan Taylor to hopefully fall into the end zone. He's in number two running back. You know, he's one of the bigger busts this year, but he certainly still has a chance to help your fantasy. And I will say like for someone who was drafted in round two, like I would still, I would sit him obviously for Sharpen AF walkers out, I would sit him for Garendo tonight, I would sit him for Brian Robinson and started sit him for Rico Dowdell. So there's a lot of guys you might've had behind him that you might start over.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yes, you can, you can certainly sit him, but I still think he's number two running back. That's probably the line for me in terms of Grendel where I'll put him. I have Taylor right now at 20. Grendel right in front of Taylor. Okay. Pittsburgh at Philadelphia. Is Saquon Barkley the only easy start in this game? I don't think many people are sitting Jalen hurts. You know, you could look at like on my rankings for that, but he's like eighth. So you can have guys that are better than him, for example. But I don't think many people have those situate.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Like if you drafted Hertz and Brock Purdy, sure. I would start Purdy over Hertz this week, but I don't, I don't, I don't think many people are doing that. Yeah, I'm starting Hertz. I'm starting AJ Brown, I'm starting Hertz. I'm starting AJ Brown. I'm starting Saquon Barkley. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We'll get into that. I think I'm, I have a co-manager in our FFT league, but golf versus Hertz is going to be tough right now. I think I'm leading golf. How about you guys? I have golf rank time. It's just, I don't, I mean, it's been, for me, it wasn't even bad last week,
Starting point is 00:30:28 but he had like two or three bad fantasy games. Three. He's a top four quarterback on the season. I don't know why we're overreacting to a couple of bad games. No, we're not overreacting. First of all, Pittsburgh is a tough matchup, right? They've held.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Would you sit Josh Allen against Pittsburgh? No, but I'm looking at it... Would you have two weeks ago? No, I would not sit Josh. I view Josh Allen differently than Hertz. But... For fantasy purposes, I understand for maybe for real life why that would be, kind of.
Starting point is 00:31:02 For fantasy purposes, I don't really understand that. Because he's throwing 21 times a game. That's insane. And there is an obvious trend. When Saquon Barkley scores rushing touchdowns, Jalen Hurts struggles. When Saquon Barkley doesn't score rushing touchdowns, he doesn't struggle.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Saquon Barkley got to the one yard line twice last week, couldn't get in, Hurts got in, then he got extra six points. Otherwise he's at 22 points. He's just not throwing enough. There's not enough passing. Well, he also leads the NFL in rushing yards or rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, you got to get that. But, and he gets all, he gets the carries from the one yard line, which is huge. But I don't know, I was saying I hate them, but I'm looking at golf in this matchup against Buffalo, could be the highest scoring game of the week. You know, I think there's a case to be made there. I wouldn't sit him for Jameis.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't, but I think I could see it. All right, anyway, Tampa Bay's at Los Angeles, starters at Baker Mayfield. Low end starter. starters at Baker Mayfield. Low end starter. Yeah, he is behind Jameis for me, but he's top 12. Atlantis at Las Vegas rank the wide receivers
Starting point is 00:32:13 in this game, the top three. London, Myers, Mooney. Yeah. And London is a top blank wide receiver. 15. Five. And Myers is top 12. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Regardless of quarterback. I don't really, I know Desmond Ritter is not good. Aiden O'Connell is not good. Gardner Minshew is fine. Okay. Cincinnati at Tennessee, starter sit Calvin Ridley. Number three receiver. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Okay. Boy, what a matchup though. All right, so that's one question for each game. Now it's time for the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs powered by Snapdragon, the fastest, most intelligent Windows PCs ever. In this segment, we'll identify a player
Starting point is 00:33:10 whose battery just doesn't seem to run out, similar to Copilot Plus PCs. Heath, who was our workhorse to watch for week 15? It's gotta be Chuba Hubbard, the guy who, you know, we kind of thought his battery was going to run out as soon as Jonathan Brooks came back. Unfortunately, John Brooks suffered another injury and Chuba Hubbard had 30 touches last week.
Starting point is 00:33:31 He is seventh in the NFL in rush attempts this season, and I think there's a very good chance he's going to be fifth by the time we get to the end of the year. Chuba Hubbard is once again a top 12 must start fantasy running back. That was the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs. Whether you're multitasking like never before, working far from power outlets or sketching your own ideas into existence,
Starting point is 00:33:56 you can do it with the new Microsoft Copilot Plus PC powered by Snapdragon. Battery life varies by device and with usage and settings. Here we go. Miami's at Houston. So I already broke down all the who's going to get the targets thing. We just don't know. But does this does it mean that you're not worried about Tyree kill at this point that we're feel good about him at least? Not worried at all. I'm starting him. Okay. Heath, you have two of 14th.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Jamie has him seventh. Dave has him fourth. Discuss. And the difference between, like I said, the beginning of the week, the difference between eighth and 20th is, is almost nothing. I may even get to it into my top 12 when I make adjustments this afternoon. Um, I've, I've expressed a little bit more concern that Ryan's is going to have an answer in this game coming off of the bye.
Starting point is 00:34:46 The dolphins are three point underdogs and only have an implied total of 22, which is pretty low considering how well this offense has been playing lately. Um, and again, it comes back to the other thing, like how many passes do you project for two? When he's averaged basically 40 passes per game and regulation last four weeks. And that seems like, well, he's averaged basically 40 passes per game and regulation last four weeks. And that seems like, well, he got at least 40, but the three weeks before that he was averaging 31 passes per game. That wasn't predictive at all.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So is the 40 predictive now? Yeah, he's actually the number two quarterback per game in the last four games and six point for passing touchdown leagues. Jamie has two ahead of Jaylen Hertz. Although Jamie, I would assume in four points for passing touchdown leagues, you would not do that? Correct. You'd go with Hurts. We're gonna start Devon Achan. Tyreek Hill is gonna be in lineups,
Starting point is 00:35:31 although Heath has him 18th. Dave and Jamie have him in the top five. All right, you wanna talk a little bit more about Jaylen Waddle? There is a big gap. It's a 10 spot gap. Jamie's got him as a top 30 guy, Heath top 40, but no one's got him in the top 24.
Starting point is 00:35:45 How about Garendo or Waddle and PPR, Jamie? got him as a top 30 guy Heath top 40, but no one's got him in the top 24. How about Garendo or Waddle in PPR, Jamie? I'd probably go Garendo. Heath would definitely go Garendo. Yeah, I think that the problem with Waddle is it's not even as long running as the two hot streak. In the four games that two has been the number two quarterback in fantasy football. Waddle has 12 targets in one game for another nine targets in one game, three
Starting point is 00:36:10 in another, he is the ultimate boom bust flex that could make our rankings look dumb. He might finish top 20 this week. He could also like he did two of the past four games score single digit PPR fantasy points. You acknowledge that concern, right? Jamie? Oh, for sure. Um, it's been 11 plus games though in three in a row. You know, he had 11 against the Patriots. So you're looking at, um,
Starting point is 00:36:37 11 plus what he had 11, he had 11.3 at the Packers. Oh, I didn't see the two point conversion. He had 28, uh, 28 points against the Patriots. Yeah. I'm sorry. I think you're just for me, it's you're seeing a quarterback that's playing fantastic right now. I do buy into the past tense because the run game has started to struggle during the stretch. And I think also it's just what caliber of player is he? And so to go back to where we drafted him is not necessarily a fair argument,
Starting point is 00:37:10 but we did have high expectations for this guy and now he's finally delivering. So clearly it's who you're comparing him to on your roster. Where we have him ranked is obviously more for what we think in the big scheme of things. Like, I mean, I have Jaylen Waddell in two leagues that are in the playoffs, and I just don't have the ability to start him. The one tough decision for me is Waddell versus Mooney, and Mooney's just had a better season
Starting point is 00:37:35 and has been just as hot recently, so I'm going to start Mooney over him in his matchup against the Raiders. But I do think that that's where Waddell is. For me, as a high-end number three receiver, I do buy into the recent performances, I do buy into the narrative a little bit, you know, going back on, we've seen that, you know, I've talked to players about that. And so hopefully, his ability, his motivation, his targets, you know, which two of the last three have been there, you know, continue again. Okay, we got a question in the chat waddle or Thielen. Again, very similar range. Thielen is just in a little bit better spot for me taking on the Cowboys. Thielen. Waddle Marvin Harrison or Jamison Williams PPR. Waddle for me here. Jamo for me. Okay, and let's go to John Smith here.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He's muster guy. He's top top five top six and PPR start him okay CJ Stroud you guys do not even have him in your top 20 so sit CJ Stroud yep any concerns about mixing just like okay any I'll just throw it out there I mean the Dolphins run defense has been very good in their last seven games they're giving up three point eight four yards per carry to running backs. Any concerns about Joe Mixon? No, none. Top three.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Start Nico, start or sit Tank Del? Think you got to sit him. I mean, he hasn't scored a touchdown since week six, I believe it's been a while. CJ Strauss, maybe it's not week six. I know this is correct. Since week six, CJ Stra strat has thrown five touchdown passes, you know So to expect him to throw multiple touchdown passes, I think is a little bit of a reach
Starting point is 00:39:11 Hopefully he does but just the you know with Nico back without Nico It's just been a struggle for him to find the end zone consistently multiple times He's got five interceptions over that stretch also. So he's been turnover prone And take those struggle look he hasn't been successful in those last two games going into the buy that was against Tennessee and Jacksonville. We know those are very easy matchups, at least lately. And so just based on what he's done, no teams on a buy it's tough to say he's a starter in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Well, and you, you mentioned Adam, like concerns about Joe Mixon. He has three more targets than tanked out the last two weeks. Yeah. He gets about four targets or more every game, Joe Mixon. Tankdale. And then you can say, well, this game is going to be a shootout. Well, in six games, five or six games where the Texans have allowed 26 or more points, Tankdale has not scored more than 11.2 PPR fantasy points. It just has not mattered. And now pretty much all of the end zone targets are going to Nico Collins. So start Nico, sit Tankdale.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Any interest in Dalton Schultz against this Dolphins team that's really struggling against tight ends? Like Evan Ingram has been struggling, for example, would you start Dalton Schultz over Evan Ingram or Kate Otten? Nope. I'm pretty close to starting him over both those guys because you look at what he's done recently
Starting point is 00:40:20 and he's been in that nine PPR point range, you know, in three of his last four games. So he's getting opportunities. He's coming off of his best game Which was against Jacksonville prior to their bye week and you mentioned Adam, you know, the the Dolphins really stink against tight ends You know it it was Tucker Kraft. It was Hunter Henry it you know, not just not Tyler Conklin But he was involved and so there's a chance here, you know, just based on opportunities that he's been getting Around seven targets at least that's what he had against chance here, you know, just based on opportunities that he's been getting around seven targets At least that's what he had against Jacksonville, you know, so hopefully it carries over post-bye week
Starting point is 00:40:50 So not a must start guy by any stretch But if you are stuck at the position, you know and looking at some of these guys that are struggling too in what you mentioned You know, there's a chance for him to be better Let's go to our next game. It is Kansas City at Cleveland. I gave this stat last week I'll give it again updated stat of the game over the last four weeks Kansas City has allowed the most completions of 20 or more yards and the most completions of 20 or more area yards They are really struggling against the pass and that does not even include Josh Palmer streaking wide open. What a move he put on in that play by the way for what should have been an 82 yard touchdown
Starting point is 00:41:24 Left to safety in the dust there. All right, so they're struggling. Heath talked about how he likes Jamis. Do you guys like Mahomes? I'm a little, I feel like the rankings are a little bit lower than I expected on Patrick Mahomes. Heath, you are the high guy. I think you have him 12th, Jamie 15th.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like, like you said, like you could legitimately rank QB's eight through 20 in any order you want. And I would have a hard time disagreeing with it. And my homes is firmly in that group. Um, I don't think anybody, unless you could get Jamus is going to be picking up a streamer to start over my homes. Um, and there's not a lot of guys that were drafted behind them that I would start over him, but yeah, I struggle with him in Tua.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I struggle with him in Stafford. I struggle with him in Bo Nix. I still struggle with him in Baker who's ahead of him or him in Purdy who's ahead of him, it's that whole group is just a jumbled mess. Yeah. How about Stafford? Let's the Stafford or Mahomes. Mahomes for me.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Stafford for me. Mahomes or Bo Nix. Might as well do some of these. Mahomes? Mahomes for me. Stafford for me. Mahomes or Bonix? Might as well do some of these. Mahomes. Mahomes, slightly better. And there was one more, oh, Richardson. Richardson for me. Mahomes for me.
Starting point is 00:42:35 All right, like I said earlier, most pass attempts in the NFL since week eight, maybe second most, I did this before Monday night football, Dallas was right there, could be second most now. now super high pass rate running a lot of plays. One thing to watch and it's too early to be factoring in weather unless you have to make a decision on a quarterback starting tonight, um, is just kind of maybe check this afternoon what the Cleveland forecast is looking like it's December and it's Cleveland and things change quick there, but there's some concern
Starting point is 00:43:03 that this could turn into a Cleveland wind game. And I did just see that the over-under is falling another point to 44. So that might be a little bit of a concern, but it might be nothing too. It's just too far away to know. It's a great point, you know? So we got some teams that are in like indoor venues might monitor capable people an eye on that. Um, we don't really want to start Pacheco.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Would you start Pacheco or Braylon Allen if Breeze Hall is out? Pacheco. I have Pacheco just barely ahead of Braylon Allen in full PPR. Okay. Do you want- But you like Davis better than Allen, right?
Starting point is 00:43:42 I think I have Davis, I think I have a Davis, Pacheco, Allen. They're all very close. Yeah, I would, I would go Pacheco over the Jets, guys. What about Deandre Hopkins? Any interest in Hopkins? He's you know, firmly interested in that number three receiver category. You know, I think you're hoping for a touchdown because I don't think there's going to be
Starting point is 00:43:59 much more to that. But as we've seen from this Brown secondary, you know, they give up big plays. You can't really go based on last week because Pickens wasn't there and the receiving core was decimated, but you saw some opportunities, you know, where Mike Williams was open. They tried, Russell tried. I just think Hopkins is, you know, kind of is what he is at this point. You know, a guy that's going to get, probably lead the team in targets or lead
Starting point is 00:44:19 the receiving core in targets, excuse me. And if he scores, you're happy with the 12 to 15 points he'll give you. If he doesn't score, you're probably going the 12 to 15 points he'll give you. If he doesn't score, you're probably gonna be really disappointed. I've got him right behind Waddle and right ahead of Debo. So that's the area. All right, start Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Noah Gray or Dalton Schultz if I'm desperate. Schultz. Schultz, yeah. All right, we like Winston, but we don't love Winston, but he's in that discussion. Jamie, you like Winston or Mahomes? I love Winston, but he's in the, in that discussion. Jamie, you like Winston or Mahomes? I know. Oh, actually I'll ask both of you Winston or I think Heath, you said Winston, right?
Starting point is 00:44:50 I did. And I would go Winston over Mahomes also. Okay. And he throws downfield against a team that gives up a lot of big plays. It's a good matchup. Let's just hope the weather cooperates. We are not even considering Nick Chubb or Jerome Ford, right? No. No, but Ford is out snap chub three of the last four games. And if
Starting point is 00:45:12 they're behind, which again, it's the Chiefs, they always let teams play with the lead. But if they're behind, we could see a little bit more of Ford and if the weather's bad, you know, those dump off passes, I think Ford's best game from a receiving perspective was the snow game against Pittsburgh. And speaking of best games from a receiving perspective for Elijah Moore, it's been anything but Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:45:33 But if you look at Elijah Moore in good matchups, he's been a guy that you could start now let's talk about this receiving cork is I, you know, Cedric Tillman trending in the right direction. Um, but he break it down for me. How do you feel about the Browns receivers? Judy's a must start wide receiver. No matter who plays Elijah Moore is a high end number three wide receiver. If Tillman is out, Tillman's a high end number three, if he plays and that
Starting point is 00:45:58 makes Elijah Moore a low end number three. I mean, if you look at Elijah Moore, it seems like the trend is very clear. It's good game, bad game, good game, bad game, good game, bad game. And so he's due for a good game. It's been 16.5 PPR fantasy points or more every other week during the Jamis Winston era, and he's due for the good one. But the other side of that is it's like,
Starting point is 00:46:21 I think he fits perfectly in the Jalen Waddle category. Nobody should be surprised if Elijah Moore scores 16 plus fantasy points. No one should be surprised if Elijah Moore scores five or fewer fantasy points. I believe I have to make that decision for a flex spot in a three receiver league. And I will go with Waddle if Tillman plays.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yep. Tillman doesn't play, I will probably still go with Jalen Waddle, but I will probably I will take it up to game. No, no, you know, I'm going with Waddle. I would go with more if there's no Tillman. I would go with Waddle if there is Tillman. Alright, David Njoku is an easy start if he plays and if David Njoku doesn't play then Elijah Moore, I think I would start over Jalen Waddle. I'd be nervous
Starting point is 00:47:03 about Jamis if yes, the joker doesn't play. It's a huge deal. He has 30 targets in his last two games. So this is someone that Jamis definitely leans on and three touchdowns in his last two games. Chief's DST is top 10. It's tough to find DSTs. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I think the Chief's DST is really format dependent. Yeah, they're going to give up points, but they're going to get turnovers. They're going to give a point. And some of our leagues, like it's yards too. Like you, if you can get into the negatives based on points in yards, then they may not be a great match. Oh, but there's so much upside for the pick sixes.
Starting point is 00:47:39 There is. All right. Let's see. What is our next game here? Our next game is Jets and Dolphins. All right, let's see, what is our next game here? Our next game is Jets and Dolphins. All right, New York, or so Jets and Jaguars rather. That was last week, Jets and Dolphins. Jets at Jaguars. Is this a tough game for you, Jamie, to break down?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Because I find it to be a little bit difficult, and mostly because after three straight terrible games for the Jets passing game, I don't want to fully buy back in after one good game at my one really good game at Miami. How do you feel about this game? I mean, I feel much better since they're coming off a good game and now they're playing the Jaguars. Like there's, you know, remember we were talking about Rogers upcoming schedule and how we could buy into him. Well, you don't have to buy into Rogers per se, but you just buy into the receivers.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I think what we saw last week is probably something to hope for rest of season because I don't think you can expect him to throw multiple touchdowns consistently. I think what you're looking at is one guy scores, one guy has over a hundred yards and that's the best case scenario for them. It's a matter of who you think is going to score. And right now, Devontae Adams is doing a better job of finding the end zone. You look at the last two games for Garrett Wilson, he's had 10 targets each of those last two games.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You look at what Adams has done, really the last month, it's just been a lot of targets, and again, finding the end zone a couple of times. So the way Heath hasn't ranked, I think is appropriate. I have Wilson slightly ahead of Adams, just because I think once he gets going, he's going to get going a little bit, but they're back to back.
Starting point is 00:49:03 So both number two receivers, I think Brian Brian Thomas what you see with Mac Jones you know he had one three game stretch with Lawrence earlier this season where he had seven plus targets and three straight games he's got seven plus targets and three straight games in Mac Jones like he's just YOLO right now with with Brian Thomas because he understands the assignment you know that's the guy you want to feature in this game so Thomas is a number two receiver despite maybe sauce gardener returning I mean look what the two Dolphins receivers did last week against the secondary Thomas has the same upside to you know perform like that you know somewhere between what
Starting point is 00:49:37 Tyreek and and and Jalen waddle did so those are the easy starts, you know, the the running backs I think are flex options if it's not Brice Hall. Number two running back, if it is Brice Hall, at this point I would expect Brice Hall not to play. I have Braylon Allen slightly ahead of Isaiah Davis, as we said earlier. I know Heath likes Davis better than Allen. And then really for the Jacksonville backfield, why would you risk it? There's just no consistency there where you're hoping for either what you saw last week from Travis Etienne, which was his second best receiving total of 50 yards or Bigsby scoring,
Starting point is 00:50:10 you know, so it's, it's just a little risky right now for those guys. Who's your favorite running back in this game? Alan, I have the two jets guys ahead of the two Jaguars guys. Heath. Yes, I agree. It'd be Davis for me. Okay. I just want to tell you why. See, I don't want to present this status as this is what I think is going to happen, but I do think it needs to be said why you could be a little concerned about the Jets wide receivers and based on every Sunday morning show that we do. I think the Jets wide receivers are going to be asked about more and Brian Thomas, Brian Thomas every week, like just start Brian Thomas. He's so good. I do think the touchdowns are a problem. Mack Jones just doesn't just doesn't seem to want to throw touchdowns, but he's going to get you 80 yards, whatever. Anywho,
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Starting point is 00:51:58 or their last six games, running backs are averaging 29.8 carries per game. That is insane. They've seen the second most running back carries in that stretch despite having a buy. Running backs are also averaging 4.8 yards per carry against the Jaguars. I think six straight lead running backs have averaged over five yards per carry,
Starting point is 00:52:18 something crazy like that. So the pass attempts per game against the Jaguars in this stretch, 31.3, that's on the low side. But you take it with a grain of salt. They face Green Bay, they don't pass much. They face Philadelphia, they don't pass much. Minnesota, they don't pass much.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Detroit, they don't pass much. The Jets do. I am not that worried about it because I just don't think that Braylon Allen and Isaiah Davis are going to run the ball down the Jaguars throats. But it was a pretty eye popping stat to see 30 rush attempts per game from running backs over the last six weeks. And it's pretty much consistent every single week. And then you look at some of the wide receivers lately that actually have been disappointing against Jacksonville. Jaden Reed, 7.5 points. AJ Brown left with an injury, but he was bad.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Justin Jefferson, less than 10 points. Jordan Addison, 4.9. Tank Dell, 3.3. Nick Westbrook-Akene had two targets. I know these guys aren't Adams or Garrett Wilson, but they've done worse than what we've expected. Going, oh, they got Jacksonville, great matchup. So I just want to know what you guys think about that.
Starting point is 00:53:23 The fact that wide receivers are just not getting that many targets lately against Jacksonville and if that concerns you. They've played two games since the buy. Calvin Ridley had 12 targets. Nico Collins had 11 targets. Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams are both top 12 or top 20 wide receivers. I think top 18. I think if it was Breeze Hall, peak Breeze Hall, then maybe we have a concern here.
Starting point is 00:53:50 We're talking about two backup running backs that, you know, I don't think have that type of upside compared to the running backs or the teams that you just mentioned. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But to counter Heath's point, like, yes, Nico Collins and Calvin Ridley did get those targets, but Tank Del was bad when I actually think Tankdale's been bad all season.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I know, but it was Jacksonville and Nick Westbrook-Akene getting two targets. Yeah, but that also plays into, you know, to real life stat. Will Levis busted up his shoulder right at halftime, you know, so who knows what that would have looked like. You mentioned it, his lowest eight out of the season, you know, so he clearly was not right. All right. All right right so you guys are not concerned about that and that is fine are you concerned about Evan Ingram in
Starting point is 00:54:30 against the Jets who give up the sixth fewest fantasy points to tight ends very much so yeah all right Jamie said he's kind of close to Dalton Schultz over Ingram any other Hunter Henry over Ingram for sure right Henry over Ingram Earth over Ingram Ferguson over Ingram craft over Ingram, any other Hunter Henry over Ingram for sure, right? Henry over Ingram, Ertz over Ingram, Ferguson over Ingram, Kraft over Ingram, like this is not a good situation for Everningham right now. Mack Jones has not been good for Everningham. No. All right. We're going to take a break and talk about the Jets DST is startable, low end
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Starting point is 00:55:33 points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Colts and Broncos before we get into the quarterbacks, super interesting discussions to be had about these quarterbacks. Are there who are the easy starts, slam dunk starts in this game? Coraline Sutton. Coraline Sutton. Yeah, the easy one, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Broncos DST? They're startable. I don't think it's easy. Like, I mean, we've highlighted some teams that were on wait, like I'd start the commanders over them. I'd start the Ravens clearly over them. They were available on waivers this week in a lot of leagues. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:12 All right. So then let's get into the quarterbacks. Which one do you like better? And Heath, you can start first, talk about Bo Nix and Anthony Richardson. I don't have either of these guys inside my top 15 right now. Um, but they are in that eight through 20 group. Bo Nix is slightly ahead of Anthony Richardson and six point per pass touchdown leagues.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Um, I, I would probably take Richardson and four point per pass touchdown leagues. There's a pretty low floor for both of these guys. Um, there's a pretty high ceiling for both of these guys. I don't like the fact that Nix has pretty much stopped rushing and I don't like the fact that Anthony Richardson might complete single digit passes. I don't like that either. Jamie, what do you think, Richardson and Nix?
Starting point is 00:56:58 So I'm excited about Richardson for this week. I think what we saw from him, two of his last three games, he's played like the guy I think we were hoping to see all season long. The benching clearly has helped him. I think the time off, hopefully he did everything that he was doing up to that point, acting as a professional from some of the things that you heard, showing up to the building and doing all those things.
Starting point is 00:57:18 But in any event, in terms of matchups, they looked awful without Riley Monster, completely awful. You know, and Jamis gave them some gifts. Obviously Jamis is a different passer than Anthony Richardson. We've talked about this, go back and listen to the Beyond the Box score episode where Jacob breaks it down in terms of the drops that the culture receivers have had over the last several weeks. Getting Josh Downs back is huge for Anthony Richardson as a passer. You know, that's the easy throws that help him and make him a better quarterback. But I do think what we've seen from him as a rusher is going to matter here.
Starting point is 00:57:46 You've seen the last three games. He's gotten either 60 yards rushing or touchdown, three rushing touchdowns over those three games. So he's given you the last three weeks, 6.1 points just with his legs alone. I think that's kind of something you should hope for, if not expect at this point, because that's the type of player that he's capable of. They're allowing him to be the guy. Remember Shane Staggen to be in the season. You're not gonna tell Steph Curry not to shoot he's capable of. They're allowing him to be the guy remember Shane's not gonna be in the season.
Starting point is 00:58:05 You're not gonna tell Steph Curry not to shoot threes. I think they're allowing Richardson to run a little bit which is, the encouraging part. So clearly it's what he's gonna do as a pastor is gonna make or break what you think of Richardson. I think he's gonna have a good game here. I think they're gonna find some weaknesses in the secondary. I think they'll have an opportunity for some shot plays down the field because
Starting point is 00:58:22 the Broncos allowed that clearly against the Browns. And so Alecc Pierce is a good DFS player not playing him in your fancy playoffs. The guy I do worry about is Pittman because this feels like with downs back now he kicks outside more that's where we see Patrick Sertan. So I don't like the setup for Pittman but I do think Richardson with his legs with the opportunity for a few plays here there in the passing game I think he will be a top 12 quarterbacks. Okay someone asked Brock Purdy or Richardson, four point. Purdy, I'll take Richardson, four points. Oh, and how about Bo Nix or, we've pretty much answered all like Mahomes, he's in that group. It really does feel like you could throw a dart like he said but Nick's not coming off his best game against
Starting point is 00:59:10 Cleveland and Jonathan Taylor is a number two running back we talked about him in one question for each game would you start Josh Downs or Jonathan Taylor in a full PPR league yeah Taylor Jamie would you start Josh Downs or Taylor in a half PPR league? Taylor. Do you have the Acer stats on Josh Downs with Anthony Richardson and Michael Pittman? Yeah, has he played a game with Richardson and no Pittman?
Starting point is 00:59:38 Pittman hasn't missed the game, has he? He missed one, I believe. Okay, you let me know. Five games with Anthony Richardson for Josh Downs. We have 5.2 fantasy points against Chicago. He missed week 10. That was November 10th. I'm not sure if that was a Richardson game or not.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Who'd they play? They played against Buffalo. No, that was a Flacco game. 1.3 fantasy points against the Dolphins. 22.2 fantasy points at Houston. 14.9 or 19.4 fantasy points against the Dolphins, 22.2 fantasy points at Houston, 14.9 or 19.4 fantasy points at the Jets, and then 5.7 fantasy points against Detroit. That's Josh Downs.
Starting point is 01:00:12 That's the game he left. Yeah, but he had seven targets in that game. He left that game? Yes. Josh Downs against Detroit played at only 53% of the snaps he's been, I mean, that's about 90% of the snaps he normally plays. Right, man.
Starting point is 01:00:27 All right, so, but Josh Downs or Jalen Waddle? I think I have them back to back. Waddle one spot ahead. Waddle. Got a question in the chat. Josh Downs or Jameson Williams in half PPR? Half PPR, I'd go Jameson. Full PPR, I'd go Downs.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I'd go Jameau in both. And, all right, sit the tight ends obviously. We talked about Bo Nicks. Let me do some Bo Nicks ors. Bo Nicks or honestly Aaron Rodgers at Jacksonville. Nicks. Rodgers for me. There you guys see I knew there'd be something there.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Bo Nicks or CJ Stroud. Nicks Rogers for me. I see I knew there'd be something there Bo Nicks or CJ Stroud Nicks Nicks Bo Nicks or Hmm Baker Mayfield Baker So I'm right now I have Mayfield ranked higher when I make my adjustments I'm gonna put Nicks out of me as mentioned Cortland Sutton is a must start. How about Jaleel McLaughlin Coming off of exciting 14 carry game?
Starting point is 01:01:27 I mean, you obviously can't start any Broncos running backs in the playoffs with any confidence. You have to be in a desperate situation to go that route. It's just a matter of will they go with the same running back back-to-back games that just hasn't been the pattern for Sean Payton. So I don't know how you approach the Heath. I just ranked McLaughlin first because he was the last one to do something of significance. So I think he has touchdown the Browns. Those are the two that you have to look at, you know, estimate had the one game against Kansas city and then it has been a disappearing
Starting point is 01:01:57 act. So he's the easy one to say no, but 14 team league desperate situation. I would lean McLaughlin over Javonta and just kind of cross my fingers and hope that Sean Payton doesn't do something crazy. So, Julien McLaughlin still only rostered in 42% of leagues. So he's a, he's a great guy to add. I think if you have a buy this week, I agree with Jamie. I don't, he's a flex at best this week. Um, but, man, if we get the game after the buy, he's the clear lead running back,
Starting point is 01:02:27 then he might sneak into that top 30 range at least. Um, he, the problem is even against Cleveland, when he had 14 rush attempts, he still only played 36% of the offensive snaps. And that was the second highest mark of the season. He has been absolutely awful in terms of the pass catching. He has 20 targets on the season and 47 yards on those 20 targets. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:59 So I'm starting sincere McCormick over McLaughlin for an RB two. So I was debating between them, but you can't justify it yet. But yeah, pick up. Yeah, McCormick, Jets guys, the Jaguars guys, you should start over. I mean, like there's not a lot of confidence here. Like if you're comparing him to Nick Chubb and Gus Edwards, like that's where we're at.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Yeah, okay. And that's it for this game. As we mentioned, the Broncos DST, they are startable. Pittsburgh's at Philadelphia. All right. It's that of the, by the way, this is great tweet from- Is this off the table for game of the week? Every good game is on today's slate.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I don't know, maybe I'll get them on Green Bay Seattle, but I gotta figure something from- Oh, Buffalo. Oh, right, he's gonna be expecting Buffalo, Detroit. You could just say, Dave, we didn't have you on for our big argument about Jalen Hurts yesterday. What are your thoughts? And then he starts talking about Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Well, he did that last week, too. This could be a boring game, though. It really could. So yeah, what's this? The total is 42. Is there any stealer that you want to start? Oh, boy. Sounds like Pickens is out. So no, no, I think, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:09 Najee is in that low end number two range. Jalen Warren's a flex. Najee or Taylor? Taylor. Taylor, slightly out of Najee. All right, so let's just focus on the Eagles here. And first of all, knock this out. DSTs,
Starting point is 01:04:25 you like the DSTs in this game? Eagles over the Steelers, but prefer to avoid them. Yeah, I think that's, yeah. They're both top 12 for me, so I'm probably just starting them. All right, and Fryer, Fryermuth or Ingram? Ingram PPR, Fryriar Muth half and none. Yeah Ingram for me. Calcatera or Ingram? All right start Barkley. Now let's get to the fun stuff here. Let's talk about the
Starting point is 01:05:01 passing game. So Heath you're just you're all in. Jalen hurts. Cause like I wouldn't say I'm all in, but I did go look cause I wanted to make sure that I just wasn't like basing this all on the pre-buy stats. Like you mentioned, I think it was since the buy, how low his pass attempts have been. And he's only thrown in his last nine games, 193 passes. And in that stretch of nine games, he has QB four averaging
Starting point is 01:05:26 26.6 fantasy points per game. Yeah. Like I don't, I understand it's a bad matchup. He might be bad. I'm not going to sit a guy who has been an elite fantasy quarterback for three years and an elite fantasy quarterback over this stretch that he's not throwing the ball enough, especially when we got a squeaky wheel game from AJ Brown. I just, I'm not going to sit him.
Starting point is 01:05:51 So like you're in a, in a rare situation, Adam, where you have at least one other high end option in Jared golf, who's, who's during this stretch of games, I don't know who's had a better, better point production, but I would imagine it's close. Well, Hertz, you tell me, Heath. Since, well, it depends. If you're talking the last four weeks, I would guess golf. If you're talking the period of time since Hertz buy,
Starting point is 01:06:15 Hertz has been significantly better. 4.3 fantasy points per game better. Yeah, look, if anyone is considering sitting Jalen Hertz, you better have someone that you absolutely love. All the slander here on Jalen Hertz, obviously it's still really tough to get away from him. Right. No one is saying to sit him. That's not the conversation.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah, but you have him ninth. Like that's pretty eye opening that you have him ninth. But that's because I like to a lot. I like golf a lot. I like pretty a lot. You know, so to what Heath is saying about QB's ninth through 20, I kind of feel like that with this range. Like they're flip a coin,
Starting point is 01:06:46 one could be better than the next. You are talking about potentially minimal past temps. You are talking about a very good defense on the other side of the football. You are talking about a defense that made things very uncomfortable for Lamar Jackson when they played in the one meeting that they had. So this is not just because he's struggling a little bit,
Starting point is 01:07:01 this is because the other side of the ball is pretty damn good. So if he doesn't have the chance to have success running the ball, which is hard to say because he's very good at that. And we are still talking about a low scoring game. Like they showed you, like they're not afraid to win a low scoring game. You know, they want to be better. You know, that's why the complaints came out of this, you know, following the Panthers game. I just think like there's a little bit of a higher ceiling for some of these guys.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Like the question you just put up there, I would start Jay and Dan was over Jaylen Hertz. And they also, not only do they do well against Lamar Jackson, great against Lamar Jackson, the Steelers held Joe Burrow to 25.3 fantasy points. That's a really good game. But in the other four games in his last five, Joe Burrow scored over 30.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's by far the worst game that Joe Burrows had in his last five games against Pittsburgh at home. So, you know, it's a tough matchup. Now, AJ Brown is gonna, we're gonna say to start him. And honestly, 21.5 past 10s per game in their last nine games. Well, they're talking about how they need to pass the ball more.
Starting point is 01:07:59 So maybe they just throw the ball more and this is a stupid conversation. But like we're, we are starting AJ Brown, right? It's, that's not even, okay. Yeah. And I didn't even move him in the rankings. Like I think there is going to be an opportunity here for him to get a huge bump in targets. And I will just say one last thing. Like if I know Hertz didn't have a good passing game last week in terms of his accuracy or yards per attempt, but if they do just choose to throw the ball 30 times per game, you should expect
Starting point is 01:08:27 this to be a very good passing offense. Jaylen Hertz has a career high completion percentage, a career high passer rating, a career high yards per attempt at 8.0, which is elite. Um, like for the year, he's still been very good efficiently wise as a passer. AJ Brown has a career high in yards per target. Right. All right. But we're a career high in yards per target. Right. All right. But we're sitting Devante Smith, I assume.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I think he's right there in that waddle discussion. Okay. Yes. We have a question. Devante Smith or Tank Del? Smith. Smith. All right. All right. I'm gonna move on past this game.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Tampa Bay is at the Chargers. Baker Mayfield. You still have, you guys still have him in the top 12? Or these, I think these are updated rankings. He's 10th. He's gonna be outside of it for me, but again, still startable. I said I'm starting Jameis over him. Would you guys approve of that move?
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yes. I would. All right. But I'm not starting Anthony Richardson over him. Would you guys do that? I would definitely do it, yeah. I would start Baker. All right, so we're split there. You played pretty well last week, honestly.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And Jamie, you're nervous about Mike Evans, right? A little bit, a little bit. I mean, you haven't seen the, oh my God, there's no God when he's getting everything and it's going to work out for him. I mean, he's had a couple of disappointing games. Well, two weeks ago, he had 26 points at Carolina. I'm sorry. So it's two of his last three. Yeah, you're right. You're
Starting point is 01:09:56 right. I'm sorry. I was wrong. I forgot he came back for the Giants game. Two of his last three have been disappointing. And did Dan say I thought Dan said on Monday that he said he was playing hurt. like not 100%. So it looked like in, uh, there was one game or one play last week where he got sort of, uh, wrapped up a little bit and tackled and he came up seemingly uncomfortable. And I was watching the game with Logan Ryan, one of his former teammates. He was like, Oh, he doesn't look right. And who knows? I mean, look, he's, he's, he's, he's an hold receiver that's
Starting point is 01:10:26 playing through potentially still a hamstring injury to some extent. But when we're talking about concern for Mike Evans, I think it's, it's good to quantify what we're talking about. We're, we still have him way ahead of the, the Jalen Waddell, I do the way ahead of the Jalen Waddell, Devontae Smith concern guys, his, his bad games, like where their bad games are often single digits, his bad games. Then two of the last three have been 13.8 and 11.9 or 10.9 without a touchdowns. So.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, again, it's like, it's like hurts. You're not sitting Mike Evans in most cases. You know, you gotta have a really stacked lineup. Like I have him probably a little bit lower than I should, but I am slightly concerned that if he's not scoring, you know, you could get an 11 point game which is not fun. And I, what about two wide receivers who are trending up right now, Jerry Judy and Joanne Jennings, would you start the Jays over Mike Evans, I would yes. Judy for sure I think I have Jennings ahead of him too. Would you start the Jays over AJ Brown? Yes. Probably should, but I don't have a rank though.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I just think that we're going to get the squeaky. Well, again, starter sit Rashad white must start at Bucky Irving's. Yes. Extremely must start. All right. I will update you on, but I'm going to assume Bucky Irving's out if, yes, if he practices today, we'll talk about it tomorrow, but Rashad White is a must star guy.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It's tough though, like Rashad White or Chuba Hubbard, Rashad White or Rico Dowdell, rank those three. Hubbard, White, Dowdell. In full PPR, I've got White, Hubbard, Dowdell. All right, Kate Otten, low end starter, maybe high end backup. High end backup. Justin Herbert, looks like, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:09 I'm gonna say it looks like McConkie is gonna play, but he practiced all last week, so I don't know, but he already practiced on Wednesday. We talked about Herbert a lot yesterday. You guys have him as a mid range, like 15th-ish. I think I'm gonna drop him a couple of spots. I definitely feel like I definitely want to start Stafford over him tonight. So okay, at least one spot. So sit the running
Starting point is 01:12:31 backs and then sit stone smart and running backs for the chargers. I do think we don't know that we've talked quite enough about stone smart. Just because Herbert's had a 22% tight end target share this year. Hayden Hurst is on IR, Will Disley's out Tampa Bay is one of the best matchups for tight ends and smart had eight fantasy points and a half on three targets last week. So he's been creeping up my rankings. I, I think I'd rather start, I think there's might be more upside for Stone Smart
Starting point is 01:13:08 than there is for like the Jawan Johnson, Dalton Schultz, Noah fan group for me. It's a great point. I mean, Tommy Trimble and Michael Mayer have had 68 or more yards in the last two games against the Buccaneers. So good point there. Jamie, talk about the Chargers wide receivers.
Starting point is 01:13:21 So good point there. Jamie, talk about the Chargers wide receivers. Mcconkey is a low end number two, high end number three receiver. Only reason I say that is because how healthy is he? You know, if he was a hundred percent healthy, he's clearly a must start receiver, but you have to be a little bit concerned. If he's out, then Quinton Johnston and Josh Palmer
Starting point is 01:13:41 are very good number three receivers as we saw last week. You know, Johnston is going to probably need a touchdown, but there still will be some opportunities for him to make some big plays down the field. Obviously Palmer had nine targets, six catches, 78 yards. You talked about this quite a bit. There was an opportunity for a huge play that Justin Herbert missed him on. So based on the secondary, if McConkie plays, you can still consider Johnston a number three receiver because, again, Tampa Bay without Antoine Winfield, that's huge.
Starting point is 01:14:06 That factors into Smart as well. The best safety arguably in the NFL, not playing. And we've seen it. Tampa Bay gives up a lot of production to wide receivers. Their top 10 and most fantasy points allowed to the position. So there's still some opportunities for Palmer and for Johnston if McConkie's out there, which is why I think it's hard to just completely give up on Justin Herbert because these guys are going to have to make plays.
Starting point is 01:14:28 They cannot run the ball. They cannot run the ball. So it's on Justin Herbert to have to, you know, win the game and we'll see if he can. Okay. But you like Johnson better than Palmer if McConkie were out? I like Johnson better than Palmer
Starting point is 01:14:42 just because I think he's been locked into his role. You know, there's two target difference, you know, last week, um, Palmer basically filled the McConkey role to some extent. Um, which is nice, but John still, I think he's going to get some more red zone opportunities. And I would say, even if you don't want to start Debo, you have to start Debo over Johnston and Palmer tonight because of the chance that McConkey might come back. Um, I don't know if I agree with that just because the matchup's so good for those guys. Like, you know, Debo's been bad in good matchups. He's been bad at bad matchups.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Like these guys could still have success. Palmer fair. Yeah. You can start him over Palmer just because Palmer will probably not be as, as reliant. Like Johnston said, still touchdown opportunities with McConkey on the field. Yeah. Here's, here's a one I haven't clicked too many questions today, but smart or pits. Like I have smart at a pits right now. I would definitely start stone smart over Kyle Pitts. That's great because we're going to our next game.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Atlanta's at Las Vegas. Now my goal for today's show was one hour and 10 minutes. Can we do these next two games in negative two minutes? Let's see. Let's see how we do here. Atlanta at Las Vegas. Yeah. So don't start Kyle Pitts. Don't start Kirk Cousins. Start Bijan Robinson for sure. And Heath, how do you feel about Drake London? I'll give you a quick wide receiver comparison. Drake London
Starting point is 01:15:57 on the year is wide receiver 20 per game and non PPR 16 per game in full PPR. Darnell Mooney is wide receiver 23 per game, three spots lower than Mooney in non PPR. Darnell Mooney is wide receiver 23 per game, three spots lower than Mooney in non PPR, or then London in non PPR. 26 per game in full PPR, 10 spots lower than Drake London. Mooney leads the team in receiving though. He has 19 catches of 20 or more yards
Starting point is 01:16:18 compared to five for Drake London. But Mooney has one end zone target. Drake London has the second most red zone and end zone targets in football. How do you feel about these guys this week at Las Vegas? I think that the targets finally pay off for Drake London. He's been kind of disappointing the last couple of weeks based on, but he's still getting such a huge number
Starting point is 01:16:36 of targets just getting peppered. I think that continues and it pays off against the Raiders and Drake London is a must start top 12 wide receiver and Darnell Mooney is a very high upside number three wide receiver. All right. Most people are going to start London. So let's do some Moonies or Mooney or I gave you that trio of running backs for Shad white Rico Dowdell and Chuba Hubbard.
Starting point is 01:16:59 They're easy to start over Mooney, right? Yes. Yep. How about over London? I would start white andoney right? Yes. Yep. How about over London? I would start white and Hubbard over London. I would start London over Dowdell. I'm like it's almost impossible for you to be and for me to have Drake London in a flex conversation. Okay. Like he's starting at wide receiver for me. I'm not comparing him to running. Here's a question on from the chat. DK Metcalf or Jacoby Myers, but I'll throw Mooney in there as well.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Would you start Myers or Mooney over DK Metcalf? Myers, Mooney, Metcalf. Myers, Metcalf, Mooney. Okay. Sit Pitts and sit the quarterback for the Raiders, whoever it might be. How do you feel about Sincere McCormick, Jamie? I think he's a flex option, low end number two running back in a very similar range for
Starting point is 01:17:50 me with Pacheco and Tracy and the Jets guys. The work is great. We have not seen him with Madison. So if Madison does play, we'll see how that all plays out. Like you said, the report is he's going to be in a backup role. Madison is. So yeah, it'll be an interesting situation if they're chasing points, will they go to Madison?
Starting point is 01:18:13 Like we saw a couple weeks ago with Abdullah, last week McCormick was in that role. But I think he's earned enough of an opportunity here that you can say, okay, at least a flex option if you're stuck. I think Pierce actually said that the reason Madison didn't play last week was a numbers game. I think he might've just been a healthy scratch.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Okay. Um, but he might, like if he does play, it does complicate things right now. We're not ranking Madison. I've got McCormick ahead of the jets, ahead of the Jags. I've got him ahead of Pacheco and Remondre, definitely ahead of Chubb. The Broncos. Okay. And then we like Jacobi Meyers, not as much as, oh, we like a More Than Mooney, right?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Yeah, I do. Okay. He's a start. Jacobi Meyers is a start. Falcons are just so bad against wide receivers. And Star-Pro Brock Bowers. Cincinnati is at Tennessee. You know what to do with your bangles. Although we're going back to Higgins. Yep.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Easily. I have a very unofficial stat of the game that I didn't feel like fact checking. I didn't feel like doing this twice. T Higgins has had six or fewer targets in 15 healthy games in his career, not including last week at Dallas. He has bounced back with eight or more targets the following week. 14 of the previous 15 times. So let's go start, burrow, start, chase, start, start, Brown, start Higgins, sit, get sicky on the other side of the ball for Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:19:42 I mean, it's such a great matchup, but we can't like we can't trust Levus, right? Nope. Okay. No, I was excited about Levus, you know, going into the stretch that he had, but who knows how healthy the shoulder is. It's more clearly super flex or two QB leagues where you trust them anyway. But you know, after pooping the bed last week with the injury, it's, it's hard to say, oh yeah, let's start them just because it's bang Bengals. Like I think at best you're looking at what Cooper Rush did. What is Tony Pollard? How is Tony Pollard compared to Chuba Hubbard, Rico Daddell, Rashad White? He's right in that range. Absolutely right in that range. You know,
Starting point is 01:20:19 the only thing that you've seen, which could be the case is when they're're significantly behind his touches have not been the same when Spears has been healthy. Right. So if the Bengals come out and blow them out early, which is not shocking if they don't melt down defensively. Um, I just think without loading Wilson on the field, Rico Dowd is coming up a hundred yard game. The Steelers running backs, they, whatever they wanted to two weeks ago. How are you getting away from Tony pot right now?
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah, I would say like, it wouldn't be shopping, shocking for the Titans to get blown out. It would be pretty shocking for the Bengals to blow someone out. They have not like they've beat, they've had one game all year. They've won by more than 10 points. Uh, we had, uh, on our fantasy, uh, I think it's our NFL Instagram page. Um, the way the bank, the way the Bengals make the playoffs and like all the crazy things that have to happen, it's our NFL Instagram page. The way the Bengals make the playoffs and like all the crazy things that have to happen.
Starting point is 01:21:08 It's not that unrealistic. Like how the Broncos lose their schedules kind of tough, how the Colts lose their schedules kind of tough, how the Dolphins lose and they have to win out. So. Yeah. Well, we'll start this week with Tennessee and Calvin Ridley is right around 30th at receiver
Starting point is 01:21:25 We're not going back to Nick Westbrook. Okinae the Bengals You get seven more targets are in good shape 14 wide receivers have had seven or more targets against the Bengals All of them have scored double-digit PPR fantasy points ten of them have scored fifteen point eight or more PPR fantasy points So let's just hope that hasn't been a given for Calvin Ridley PPR fantasy points. So let's just hope that hasn't been a given for Calvin Ridley. Um, but he's usually around seven, if not more sets up to be a good game for him. Let's just hope that they can, they can, you know, take advantage of this opportunity. All right. That's it for today's show. We'll talk to you tomorrow with more starter sit advice. Good luck tonight. Everybody will talk to you on Friday on Fantasy Football Day.

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