Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Start Your Dolphins! Start Tank Dell? Sit Chuba Hubbard? (10/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Get ready for a bounce back game for the Texans as C.J. Stroud is our Start of the Week (3:10)! Who else do we love in Week 8? And who are we avoiding (6:55)? Tony Pollard could struggle ... News and notes (9:15) and One Question for Each Game (16:30). How do we feel about Tank Dell? Rashod Bateman? Chuba Hubbard? The Jets passing game? JK Dobbins? Alvin Kamara? ... Start or Sit for Packers-Jaguars (24:00), Colts-Texans (31:40), Browns-Ravens (39:50), Jets-Patriots (46:50), Cardinals-Dolphins (55:15), Saints-Chargers (1:05:00), Raiders-Chiefs (1:07:40) and Panthers-Broncos (1:13:25) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Good morning. It is Thursday, one week away from Halloween. Heath, do you have your costume yet? I think that we've just settled on, you know, Travis and Taylor are still together. Nobody thought they'd make it.

We're just going to be them one more year. All right, the ultimate overdogs. Good stuff. Heath's got it. Jamie, how about you? You got your costume? Yes. We are going a bunch of

my 10-year-old and his friends are going as the Yankees. New York Yankees. We're going as obnoxious baseball fans. Yeah, that works. That's a good tandem costume. Hopefully they're still playing on Thursday. Today on the show, which by the way,

this is Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Can you trust Deontay Johnson or Chuba Hubbard at the Broncos now that Bryce Young is their starting quarterback? Should you sit Alvin Kamara coming off a terrible game at the Chargers? Can Cleveland pass the ball on Baltimore

with Jameis Winston under center? And what is the one stat that sums up the struggles of Marvin Harrison Jr. best? We'll answer those questions and more. First, let's break out the feeling-o-meter. How are you doing today? Scale of one to ten. How are you doing?

How are you feeling? I was just looking. I'm feeling a little bit of anxiety because I didn't have any idea what the World Series schedule was. And so I was just looking, I did realize that there's a significant possibility that the world series has just ended. And the Yankees just lost the world series the night before the whole team

dresses up as the Yankees and walks around. That would be good for the big risk. It could also be a celebration. You could be having like the world Series parade in Boca Raton. Yeah. But this could swing a lot of ways. One way or another, the obnoxious Yankee fan costumes, those people are going to have a lot to say.

All right, it sounds like Heath is, like, a five on the feeling-o-meter. We don't care about Jamie. We want to know who Jamie's feeling great about. Who is a player that he loves this week? Let's get it going, Jamie. CJ Stroud just started the week. He was bad last week. 5.3 fantasy points against the Packers, but he has dominated the Colts, and I think he will once again.

I know no Nico Collins makes everybody a little bit skittish, but he scored at least 22.7 fantasy points in each of his three games against the Colts. He was north of 25 points in both games against them last year, and I think we're going to get a little bit of a bounce back performance from everybody. Clearly, just based on how things went last week. I know DeForest Buckner is back for the Colts, so their defense will be a little bit tougher up front. Not that anybody's going to fear the Colts defense because of him.

But I think this is a get right game for CJ Stroud. He's got top five upside. And where's Tank Dell for you? He's just outside the top 24 and the top 30. Again, I'm kind of throwing out last week. Everybody was just miserable across the board. So I think there's an opportunity. I don't have him ranked very high, but Schultz has a great matchup. So I think he can win. Diggs will bounce back. Dell will bounce back. Stroud will bounce back. All right. Heath, who do you love this week? Let's get this out of the way. I don't know where it is in the rundown, but I'm sure you had it somewhere. I love Bo Nix this week against the Carolina Panthers. Since week three, he is QB 18 on a per game basis. Four of the quarterbacks who have scored more points per game than him are not playing this week. So say he's QB 14. He's playing the Carolina Panthers who have given up the fourth most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks.

Five of seven quarterbacks against them have scored at least 20 fantasy points. Four of seven have scored at least 24 fantasy points. The Denver Broncos have an implied point total this week of 25 and a half. Wow. It's the fourth highest total on the slate. That doesn't make any sense except for the fact that they're playing the Panthers. And when you go to divide up, like how are the Broncos going to score touchdowns? Well, they scored 11 of them this year and eight of them have been Bo Nix passes or rushing touchdowns. He's got over 60 rushing yards in each of his last two games. He's going to be a top 12 quarterback this week. And the Panthers implied total is what, like 16 points or something? Yes. Yeah, that's bad. Nine and a half points spread. I don't know if you saw, Jamie, while we were talking about this yesterday on the network.

We were talking about how outrageous it is that I have them top 12. Did you see where Sportsline has them? Fourth or something like that, right? Fifth. I think he's fifth in the Sportsline. Listen, the matchup is great. The only concern I have is, and you brought this up, is the touchdowns. Because we saw rushing touchdowns last week for the first time. I'm sorry. Rushing touchdowns from Javante last week for the touchdowns. Because we saw rushing touchdowns last week for the first time.

And I'm sorry, rushing touchdowns from Javante last week for the first time. You know, they had a couple for Jaleel McLaughlin. I think when he caught one, he ran one. Will he get the opportunity to throw or run for a score or two? And I think that will sway if he's top 12 or top 20. He's a great sleeper, though, for this week. He's a great biweek replacement or injury replacement. He's a great bi-week replacement or injury replacement. I'm just not as high on him as you are.

You'd start him over Baker Mayfield. I would, I would not, but I understand why anybody would Jared golf against Tennessee. I would, I would not. Okay. All right.

They're all going to be. Yes. Yeah. Well, the good news is for Bo Nix, the Panthers, they have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL. The second fewest sacks.

Bo Nix is last in the NFL in yards per attempt when he's pressured. But when he's not pressured, he's only fourth to last in the NFL in yards per attempt. But no, he's playing better, running the ball. I mean, he played pretty poorly against the Saints. So do you buy into any of his receivers? No. pretty poorly against since but do you do you buy into any of his receivers um no so it's just like you know the hodgepodge somebody will benefit somebody will catch a pass yeah no it makes sense yeah i like that we both went with hodgepodge all right who are we avoiding this week jamie i have a lot of guys that i'm concerned about that are of the high-end variety i'll go with

tony pollard um you know looking at the matchup against the Lions and not having Hopkins on the field, still with Mason Rudolph. You saw what that looked like last week, and it wasn't great for him. And I think we'll see the Lions do what they do against most running backs, which is keen on stopping him. It's hard to bench him, obviously, certainly if you play a running back in the flex. But I don't think he's going to have one of his better games. He's going to probably have to score. And there is a chance that TyJ Spears plays.

And while that hasn't exactly hurt him, in a bad matchup, it could be a little problematic. So I'm concerned about Pollard this week. Yeah, Pollard or Javante? Javante for me. I have them almost 12 spots apart. I have Javante as borderline number one running back, and Pollard just outside the top 24.

Okay, Javante has the Panthers and Pollard the Lions. And Heath, who are you avoiding this week? Deontay Johnson. Like you are asking, can we trust Deontay Johnson or Chuba Hubbard? And I think maybe it's a debate with Chuba Hubbard, but I don't have any hope at all. Like he's been bad two of his last three games with Andy Dalton. And now you've got Bryce Young.

Now you've got a great defensive matchup. Now you've got Patrick Sertain is practicing, probably coming great defensive matchup. Now you got Patrick certain is practicing, probably coming back to this game. So maybe the worst matchup, maybe the worst quarterback in the NFL. No, don't start Deontay Johnson. All right.

Yeah. I don't even, we wouldn't even like him if Dalton were playing. Right. I mean, no, no, no.

I mean, he wouldn't, he would have been a low end number three, probably for me with Dalton. All right. Hopefully Dalton gets better soon. Sorry to hear it. In a car accident, sprained his thumb, and will not play this week.

We don't know how long he'll be out. Sunday, back to our regularly scheduled programming. No London game. So on Sunday, we've got 11.30 a.m. Eastern until 1 p.m. Eastern. Answering your questions live, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. You got to be there to ask your questions and get them answered. We get a lot of questions. We have a lot of fun.

1130 to 1 p.m. Eastern, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. You can watch CBS Sports HQ from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. This is on the CBS Sports app. You can watch HQ to get some fantasy advice from Jamie. So different ways to get fantasy advice to get your lineup set on Sunday. Let's do our news and notes here. So yeah, Bryce Young starting for Carolina and Tua practicing.

And oh, based on, you know, we'll play what Tyreek Hill had to say a little bit later, but Tyreek Hill's pretty pumped. Seems like Tua's going to play this week. Jane Daniels mispractice. He has not been ruled out at Chicago. Cleveland is going to turn to Ken Dorsey, their offensive coordinator, to take over

play calling. They're going to try to mix things up here against the Ravens. And Spencer Rattler's going to start for the Saints. At running back, Travis Etienne was limited. He was limited last week and did not play, but he starts the week limited. They're against the Packers. Alvin Kamara.

Alvin Kamara is playing with a broken hand, guys. What is that? Definitely tougher than us. Yeah, I'd say so. But is this a concern for you? Yeah. I mean, glad he got paid. Jamie, if Adam broke

his hand, how many podcasts would he miss? He would miss surgery, broken hand, you know cast and wait for a deal just just playing through it waiting for it to heal waiting for a deal he would miss two he would miss the show after he broke his hand too much pain to do the mixer and then he'd probably miss one more because like he'd wake up like he slept the wrong way or something like that yeah i i thought about that if i couldn't type imagine if you guys couldn't type how hard i went a whole football season with the cast on my hand after i broke my pinky i don't remember how did you how did you do it so i had the cast was uh you can see my fingers still crooked um so i had the cast uh over

everything but here and so like it was, it was wrapped here and here. Yeah. You gotta tell the audience, the listeners. Uh, so I broke my pinky on my right hand. I had the cast on my middle finger through my pinky and my pointer finger was still able through the cast, you know, so it was like wrapped here around those three fingers and down to my wrist. And I was, uh, pecking, you know, so I must've slowed you down. So my, that's terrible pecking, you know, so. I must have slowed you down so much. That's terrible. Don't break your.

And I missed, I had surgery on Thanksgiving morning. No, I'm sorry. Friday of Thanksgiving. I missed that show. That was the only show I missed. Good for you. All right. So I would have to miss only one show then.

All right. So more running back news. Bucky Irving missed practice with a toe injury. Jonathan Taylor practice. Are you ranking him yet? I was at a baseball game yesterday. We usually text with each other. Dave sent a text. I'm cool ranking

Taylor, Myers, and Olave. He said Debo Samuel's playing basketball. Dave asked, are you coaching Debo in basketball? And that was the end of the text chain. All right. We're hopeful for Taylor. Jamie already mentioned Tajay Spears could play this week. Baltimore running back Keaton Mitchell has been designated to return from IR. How much of a threat is he to Derek Henry?

Just kidding. Remondre Stevenson mispractice for the Patriots. You know, he's he's a little banged up right now. Wide receiver news. Jamison Williams practice. He hasn't yet decided Jamison Williams on whether or not he'll appeal his two-game suspension. Cooper Cup is off the injury report. Puka Nakua is actually

questionable for tonight. Not expecting him, but hey, it's good that he's questionable. Maybe he'll be back next week. Maybe he'll be back tonight. Jordan Whittington is out. Where's Cooper Cup ranked?

14. 8. And you're not expecting Puka, right? No. No. Deebo Samuel has a chance. That'd be a cool note if he's active. Yeah, but listen, if you want to pick up Stafford,

don't start him tonight, but a couple teams on by next week, the Brock Purdy manager, I don't know who they play next week, but he could have his weapons back. Deebo Samuel has a chance to play. Jawan Jennings mispracticed. Jalen Waddle was limited.

Expect him to play. DK Metcalf is not going to practice until Friday at the earliest. Then they'll have more of an update on DK. Zay Flowers mispracticed. So that's one I'm keeping an eye on. Did he just get back out there due to adrenaline last week? Calvin Ridley mispracticed with a foot issue.

Jalen Polk mispracticed. Jacoby Myers did practice. Dave is comfortable ranking him, apparently. And Alan Lazard mispracticed. Dallas Goddard mispracticed. Taysom Hill and Juwan Johnson were limited. TJ Hawkinson is questionable for tonight's game. I think we're probably not going to want to start him

if he plays today, right, Hawkinson? No. Yeah, I think, Jamie, Jamie brought up a good point. If you're in one of those situations where you've just been piecing the position together and now you've got to activate him off IR and start somebody, I'm probably just going to start Hawkinson as opposed to dropping somebody else. Okay, offensive line news. Patriots left tackle Vadarian Lowe is making progress.

He didn't practice, but he did dress for practice. Cincinnati tackle Orlando Brown was limited. The Saints could get Cesar Ruiz, one of their guards, back. He's missed four straight games. And the Seahawks have opened up the 21-day window for two tackles, Abraham Lucas and George Fant. Defensively, the Jets are getting healthier. They're at New England.

The Cowboys are probably getting, I mean, they're, I don't know. We don't know yet about Micah Parsons or Deron Bland. Jordan Phillips, their defensive tackle, he practiced in full. Kicker Brandon Aubrey has jury duty, but I expect him to play through jury duty. He didn't practice yesterday. Brandon Aubrey, Brandon Aubrey. Yeah, what's your excuse?

I'm a kicker. Yeah, right. Do they actually matter? Yeah. Houston is getting healthier on defense, too, as they get ready for Indianapolis. Although Aziz Alshire did not practice. Miami's got some cornerback issues. I'm done talking about this.

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So I believe there are actually 10 AFC home games this week, but we're going to save a couple of those for tomorrow. Giants, Steelers, and Eagles, Bengals. So today, let's start with Green Bay at Jacksonville. How many wide receivers, Heath, are you confident in in this game, Green Bay at Jacksonville? Two. Two.

I'm starting Jaden Reed. I'm starting Brian Thomas. And Romeo Dobbs and Christian Kirk are kind of what the heck, low-end wide receiver threes or flexes? Watson. Watson, you are confident in Jamie? No, no. He said Christian Kirk.

It was Christian Watson. I meant Christian Kirk. No, he meant Christian Kirk. Oh, you didn't mean Christian Kirk. I'm sorry. I forgot they're playing the Jaguars. I would, I'm confident in Dobbs. As a number three?

I haven't ranked as a number two. I haven't ranked ahead of Terry McCorn and Deontay Johnson. That means you're expecting Mariota to play. I am. Okay. Well, I mean, there's also Chicago for Terry McCorn. Okay, so that's... If Daniels is playing, there's no way I'm benching McCorn.

If Mariota is playing, I'm concerned. By the way, Brian Thomas or Jaden Reed? Thomas. I have Reed. Indianapolis is at Houston. Start or sit? Tank Dell. Jamie already said he's top 30.

Heath, how about you? I've got him 28th, so yeah, it's not a surefire start, not a surefire sit. Is Tank Dell better than the wide receivers we just talked about, the Christian Kirk, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs group? I would say yes. I have a Dobbs, Dell, Watson, Kirk. Cleveland's at Baltimore.

Let's say Zay Flowers does play. Who would you rather start in a PPR league, Rashad Bateman or Nick Chubb? Chubb. If he does play? Yeah, if he does play. Chubb. Can I say something about Rashad Bateman? Yeah, please.

So I was watching just his targets. I didn't watch all his routes. No, I actually just watched his receptions. And whether it's just by the defense, you know, it's a tough offense to play against, right? You got to worry about Lamar Jackson. You got to worry about Derrick Henry. Whether it's just by, you know, because of that or because he is killing people on his routes. And don't forget, this is the most hyped guy of the preseason, of the offseason. They kept telling us he was going to have a big year. This guy is getting open.

He is doing things after the catch. He's obviously making big plays. He's 44% rostered. And I just thought to myself, like, I get it. There's not a lot of targets. There's one game with more than five targets. But why would I roster Jamison Williams over Rashad Bateman? Rashad Bateman is actually on a better offense. They both have target concerns.

I still think at 44%, Bateman, while I know it's going to be ebbs and flows because of the low targets, I still think he's under roster right now. If Zay Flowers does miss any time, then we're talking about something pretty exciting here. What do you guys think? It's a very interesting

comp with Jameson Williams. Very interesting because you have the early season, what Williams was doing, and you have the early season, what Williams was doing, and you have the recent performance of what Bateman is doing on top of Williams now missing two games. So do you make that pivot and see if Bateman can stay hot or Flowers maybe misses a game because of this injury that he's dealing with? He was limited, right?

He didn't miss practice. No, I think he missed practice. He missed practice. But he's like Rashad Bateman's rostered in fewer leagues than Christian Watson. Yeah, I mean, it's a good call. And even taking it a step further, think about what Michael Pittman and Josh Downs are

with Anthony Richardson. Right. Like, why would you not want to gamble on a piece of the Ravens' offense? Yeah, it's not a bad call. So I've got Bateman higher than Pittman, Downs, and Watson this week. And Jamison. I don't have him higher than Watson, but I do have him higher than the Colts guys.

And yeah, and if you think, oh, what does Adam know about guys getting open? Rashad Bateman has the fifth highest open metric on ESPN Analytics. Neighbors, Andrews, Diggs, Collins, Bateman. Two Ravens and two Texans are in the top five. Okay, moving on. Jets are at the Patriots. Big day for the Jets offense? Yes, should be.

All right, let's go. Arizona at Miami. Marvin Harrison Jr. or Jalen Waddell? Who do you like better? I will tell you the Dolphins allow the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Waddell. It's Waddell, but I'm really ready to get some real numbers for the Dolphins defense. Like, they've played some bad offenses,

and they've been so awful as an offense that nobody's needed to pass. Like, I would like to see some real numbers. Yeah. Will it happen this week, though? That's the question. Is Kyler going to be at 35 pass attempt? If two is as good as we're hoping he's going to be, Kyler might have to.

It's interesting, yeah, because we'll talk about that game soon, but the Dolphins have such a bad run defense, you've got to figure that's what the Cardinals will want to do. Cardinals want to do, yeah. Yeah, but will they be able to stay in that game script? Saints are at the Chargers. Alvin Kamara or J.K. Dobbins?

Dobbins. I've got Kamara. You're still pretty high on Kamara, right, Heath? Yeah, I haven't. Like, it was a bad game last week, but I still think he's probably going to see

a bunch of targets and be productive. Raiders are at the Chiefs. Start or sit, Alexander Madison. Two straight games with 15.3 or more PPR fantasy points against the Steelers and the Rams. But no running back has scored more than 13.2 PPR fantasy points against the Chiefs.

That includes Bijan, Kamara, Derek Henry, JK Dobbins, and Jordan Mason. That's incredible. Starter sit, Alexander Madison. Sit. I would prefer to sit him. Um,

but I understand if you don't have a choice, I do still have him ahead of Nick Chubb. I've got him ahead of Ramond Ray Stevenson, but not a top 25 running back. Would you start in a PPR league, Alexander Madison or Tank Dell? Dell. I'd probably start Madison.

Carolina is at Denver. Is Javante Williams the only good start in this game? Obviously, we know he flags Bo Nix, but is Javante Williams or Bo Nix, I guess, the only good start in this game? And the DST, Denver DST. I would probably still start Chuba. Yeah.

Reluctantly, but still start Chuba. Yeah, I mean, this is the last game we're going to talk about, so in case you're not around in an hour and a half. Andy Dalton's averaged 150 yards per game over his last three games. I think Bryce Young might be able to do that some weeks. I don't know about this week against Denver, but Chuba has still been a real, you know,

basically a must start guy with Andy Dalton averaging 150 yards per game over his last three games. So something to keep in mind. I, I think you also have to say that Broncos are the number one DST this week. Yeah. Yeah, they're not in the rankings currently, but they're like two or three for you guys.

They were two for me. I just didn't adjust it yet with Dalton starting, but they'll now move to one. Heath does have them one. Jamie has them two. They'll go to one. Dave has them third, so hooray for the Broncos.

Maybe two weeks in a row, the Broncos DST can crush it for you. Green Bay is at Jacksonville. All right. Stat of the game. Tell me if this does anything for you. The Jaguars have allowed the second most completions of 20 or more yards and the third most completions of 20 or more air yards.

Last week's opponent, the Houston Texans for the Packers, they don't give up a lot of big plays. So I don't want to start Christian Watson. I got to see a little bit more first. But does that stat do anything for you? It's encouraging. I mean, you know, this could be a game where you get some big plays from either Watson or Wicks.

You know, Reed and Dobbs have the ability to do it too. But, you know, we saw Watson have a big catch two games ago and then do nothing last week. And so hopefully this is a bounce-back game, you know, for people that are starting. Yeah, right. That's the thing. It's not necessarily a Christian Watson stat,

the fact that the Jaguars give up so many big plays. It could be a Reed stat. It could be a Wick stat. But it could definitely be a Jordan Love stat. I mean, it's a tailor-made matchup, I'd say, for him. Who are you starting ahead of Jordan Love? Lamar and Allen, and that's it. I may just have Lamar,

maybe one other guy. Just Lamar. Bo Nix? Not Bo Nix, just Lamar. All right, Heath, let's talk about Josh Jacobs. Great start, good start, average start. What do you think about a team that's still giving up

at 3.74 yards per carry to running backs? I would say a mid start. He's either going to finish as a borderline RB2 because he doesn't score a touchdown, or a borderline RB1 because he does. So it's kind of the definition of an RB2 for me. All right, you guys have... Wait, Jamie, you have him eighth or no?

Is that wrong? Is that outdated? Jacobs? Yeah. Is like 13th. 13th. Yep. There you go.

I didn't update that. Sorry. Okay. So I guess we can compare him to some other players. Most of you are going to start Josh Jacobs. Would you start Jordan Mason over Josh Jacobs? I would. I have Jacobs ring time.

Would you start Jav Josh Jacobs? I would. I have Jacobs ring time. Would you start Javante Williams? I would. I have them back to back. All right. And then Jaden Reed, we thinking he bounces back, must start this week.

You must start this week. The only concern would be is that somebody else or two other guys or three other guys have a better game just because that's the nature of this offense. It's not a Jaden Reed issue. It's just a crowded offense issue. And then your second highest ranked receiver, Jamie, for the Packers is Dobbs, right? Yes. And where is he?

24? 25? Heath? 30? Okay, so he's basically right in the tank doll range. So, Romeo Dobbs, you can take a look at. Watson and Wicks are, you know, how would you sum up their status this week, Watson and Wicks?

Boom bust, number three receivers. Yeah, I might just go to boom bust flex. Tucker Kraft, start or sit, three straight games with four to five targets the Jaguars struggle so the Jaguars are 26 against tight ends and yet only one tight end has had more than five targets so you don't need a ton of it was Henry last week you don't need a ton of targets to be good against the Jacksonville Jaguars Dalton Kincaid scored on five targets Mo Ali Cox scored on four targets Cole Komet scored twice on five targets uh Heath'Ally Cox scored on four targets. Cole Komet scored twice on five targets.

Heath, how do you feel about Tucker Kraft this week? High end, tight end, too. He might be in that situation where I'm not looking for someone else if I've got him, but I'd much rather have gone and gotten Kate Otten

if I could. And Hunter Henry? I prefer Hunter Henry to Kraft this week, yeah. Okay. All right, let's talk about the Jaguars, Jamie. Who do you like on the Jaguars side? I know you like Brian Thomas.

Do you like anyone else? Bigsby and non-PPR I think is worth starting as a number two running back, but not a slam dunk start. If you're stuck in PPR and ETN does not play, I think Dearness Johnson is worth a look just because I think game script will benefit more so than Bigsby will. Does Tank Bigsby have? And Ingram. Ingram's a must-start guy.

Is he a must-start guy with the state of tight ends right now? Yes. Yes. He's still better than Kincaid. He's better than Pitts. He's better than Laporta. Okay. Yeah, Packers have struggled a little bit against tight ends. So Ingram is better than Kraft? In PPR, yes. In non-PPR, I take Kraft. So then how about Ingram versus the waiver wire guys,

Hunt, Henry, and Otten? Otten, Ingram, Henry. Yep. Someone's asking Ingram or Taysom Hill if healthy. Ingram. Ingram. Someone's asking Nj or Taysom Hill if healthy. Ingram. Ingram. Someone's asking Najoku or Kraft. Najoku.

The only tight ends better than Najoku for me are Bowers and Kittle. I'll answer some questions in the chat here relevant to this game. Bigsby, Rashad White, or Najee Harris? Najee. Najee, but it's close between Najee and Rashad White in PPR. Christian Watson or Tucker Kraft in a flex spot PPR? They're both touchdown dependent. I might lean toward Kraft just because I think he's a little safer.

I'm sure. Tucker Kraft or Mark Andrews? Andrews. Andrews for Heath, Craft for Jamie. And last one here from the chat, Njoku or Bowers? Bowers. Bowers.

Trade one. And... Okay, so... Oh, yeah, Bowers, by the way, facing the team that gives up the most fantasy points to tight ends, and he's doing very well.

Yeah, do we need to talk? So how does how do things change if ETN plays Heath in terms of how you evaluate the Jaguars running backs? Well, first off, you don't take a shot on Dearness Johnson. This is the main thing I think

like I've got Bigsby as a high end flex and he'd probably move down a couple of spots in my rankings. I'd probably still start him over Etienne, but they'd be very close, probably right around RB30. Based on this game, I probably would lean Etienne over Bigsby. I know that there's no... I don't trust De'Aaron Johnson more than I do Bigsby, but I would trust Etienne.

You know, it's interesting, because that was one of the lines that I saw very early in the week and i was like well that's going to change because the packers are only four and a half point favorites against jacksonville and well that like they ought to be a touchdown at least and it's actually gone the other way i think it's down to four now so i kind of agree like it seems like the packers should win this game and jacksonville should be chasing but a four point spread is not very big yeah if it were apoint game, if it were a close game,

would you think Tank Bigsby would have a good game? Yes. Yep. Yeah, but at the same time, he still only has two targets this season. So he could have 15 carries for 86 yards, which is a good game. If he doesn't score, it's not that good of a game for fantasy purposes. Right.

All right. So that's always the risk you're taking with Tank Bigsby. Someone said they traded Tank Bigsby for Christian McCaffrey. You are my freaking hero. Way to go. And then Trevor Lawrence,

I don't think we're starting him, right? But he's, yeah, he's playing pretty well lately. But, all right. So then, yeah, start Brian Thomas Jrr and it's hard to trust christian kirk at this point though well just the two game sample size with ingram he's been bad he has and lauren's only through 20 passes last week so keep that in mind but still it's been

i think it's been more than kirk should have had a touchdown yeah but it's three straight games now with six or fewer targets two of of them with Evan Ingram back. Alright, Packers DST. Starter sit. Start. Low end start. Didn't quite make the starters for me. The Colts are at the Texans. Here is your desperate

stat of the game. This is me being desperate to convince people to start Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson in only two games has a great history against the Texans. In week one or week two, I think of 2023, he scored 17.7 fantasy points in a little more than a quarter against the Texans. In week one against Houston this year, he scored 30.1 fantasy points. His next three opponents that he's faced currently rank eighth, second, and first against quarterbacks. The Texans allow the fourth most fantasy points. His next three opponents that he's faced currently rank eighth, second,

and first against quarterbacks. The Texans allow the fourth most fantasy points to quarterback. So it's a great matchup. The Texans have really struggled against mobile quarterbacks this year. You look at Richardson with 56 yards and a touchdown. Drake may had 38 rushing yards. Josh Allen had 54 rushing yards. And I think even Caleb Williams was okay. Caleb had 44, 38 rushing yards. Josh Allen had 54 rushing yards. And I think even Caleb Williams was okay.

Caleb had 44. 44 rushing yards. So that's my case here, that he's actually, Richardson has had a pretty tough schedule. This is a great matchup for him. Do you guys have any hope for, I shouldn't say that. Do you guys want to start Anthony Richardson this week? No, but I agree with you.

I think there's hope, but it's, it's very, very minimal at this point. Like he's got to do something at this point to give anybody some, someone's of confidence and maybe even the Colts. The funny thing is, is they're in the playoffs. If it ended today, you know, so I do think so for whatever it's worth, it doesn't necessarily help Richardson's stats because he's not going to throw the ball to him. But I do think Jonathan Taylor back makes things better for this offense

because they have no semblance of a consistent run game right now. Richardson or Herbert from the chat? Richardson. And let's remind me on Sunday night if Richardson has a big game, all the things that I said about this matchup before I start freaking out. So just keep it in mind. All right, so Richardson is the highest that anyone has him ranked as 18th. We don't really like him this week, and nobody's on by.

All right, how do you feel about Jonathan Taylor in week one against the Texans? He had 16 carries, 48 yards, and a touchdown. He did not have a catch. Heath, is Jonathan Taylor a must start if he plays? If he's healthy, I'm starting him. Would you like, I know how we feel about Josh Jacobs. You called him a mid start, which I probably should urban dictionary. But how do you feel about Taylor versus Jacobs?

I would have Taylor probably five spots ahead of Jacobs. Okay. But I've got Jacobs 18. I think Jamie had him 13. So I'd probably have Taylor where ahead of Jacobs. Okay. But I've got Jacobs 18. I think Jamie had him 13. So I'd probably have Taylor where Jamie has Jacobs. Yeah. I would lean Jacobs and PPR Taylor and non, just because I don't think Jacobs,

I don't think Taylor's going to catch the ball. I got a lot of Richardson questions. Richardson or Tua? Tua. I've got Richardson. Oh, wow. Richardson or Wilson? Russell Wilson.

Richard. Russ. Richardson or Wilson? Russell Wilson. Richard. Russ. Richardson or Darnold? Darnold. I mean, Darnold's not playing. What? Oh, I'm sorry. Why am I thinking Dalton?

What's wrong with me? Darnold. Richardson or Mahomes? Richardson. Richardson. Taylor or Jamesomes? Richardson. Taylor or James Cook? Taylor. Taylor.

I love it when the chat helps me out here. Start at Colts. Wide receiver? Nope. No, I don't even have him ranked in my top 48. Yikes. All right, Jamie likes CJ Stroud. He's got him sixth, I believe.

Heath, so this is the start of the week. Heath, you have him eighth. So you want to just back it up? Back up that side? No, it's a great matchup. Should be a bounce back week after a terrible performance. We're going to get a little bit nervous if he's not good against the Colts without Nico. All right. Joe Mixon is an absolute must-start stud.

Should be great. Yeah, I'm never going against Heath's rankings again when I have the start of the week, by the way. Well, he didn't like... It was just once. He didn't like Cousins last week? No. All right, well, Houston,

you're going to start the mix and you're going to start Diggs. Any hesitation on Diggs? No. Okay, so what do you expect from Tank Dell? By the way, let me just give you this. In 2023, he had 10 catches of 20 or more yards so far this year he has two and he has basically half the targets that he had last year go ahead heath it is not an expectation with tank till you can't like there's no reasonable expectation to have it's just how much of a

risk like his upside versus his risk he He's like a rich man's Christian Watson this week, mostly starting him out of FOMO, but he could be a top 12 wide receiver this week. He could also score four fantasy points. There are two guys that had no catches last week that should bounce back in a big way. is dell one is sudden i yeah i mean what you said heath of uh the fomo thing that is exactly what it is but at the same time there are no explosive plays with this guy he had he's like i said he's basically had about 45 to 50 percent about 45 percent of the targets that he had last year. So he's basically halfway to and he played 11 games last year and he's played six games this year. And like I said, 10 catches of 20 more yards last year, two of 20 or more yards this year and zero catches of 30 or more yards this year.

Three of them last year. So the FOMO, I feel like is based on last year's tank Dell. I don't know. It's all such a small sample size. Like the, the sample you just put together is one NFL season. Yeah. Yeah. And so if he told me that a guy had a bunch of big plays in the

first half of the season and didn't have any in the second half of the season, I'd probably just tell you, well, average it out. That's how many he's going to have next year. All right. Uh,

question. I think what we'll end up seeing though, to Heath's question about Stroud with Nico, or point about Stroud with Nico, if Dell does not do something this week and Nico comes back, we are dropping Tank Dell, which is going to suck.

Tank Dell or Marvin Harrison Jr.? Still Marvin, but it's close. Dell for me. Would you drop, this is a random question, Juju Smith-Schuster, drop him for Bateman. Yeah, drop him for Rashad Bateman.

Seeing if I have any more questions for this game. I saw Anthony Richardson or Baker Mayfield. Still Baker. Here's a good one. Dell or Olave? Dell. Dell. And even though Dalton Schultz has a good matchup just he's about 17th in the rankings

we don't trust him it's hard it's hard to trust him but this should be an opportunity where you hope to see six plus targets and he delivers and the texans dst is a low-end starting dst you can start the certainly the broncos the chiefs over over them. You can start the Chargers over them. And let's go to our next game. After we go to break, we'll talk about Baltimore and Cleveland. Jameis Winston facing a team that gives up the third most fantasy points to quarterbacks and wide receivers. How will that work out for the Browns and their new play caller?

We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. All right, Baltimore at Cleveland. And I just gave the stat of the game before we went to break. The Ravens give up the third most fantasy points to quarterbacks and wide receivers. They have allowed the most completions of 20 or more yards, and six of seven quarterbacks to face the Ravens have thrown for 269 or more yards. So, Heath, I'll throw it to you first. Your expectations for the Cleveland passing game with Jameis Winston and now

Ken Dorsey calling plays. I'm very excited to start David Njoku. That's pretty, that's pretty much it. As far as expectations go, I did try to pick up Cedric Tillman pretty much everywhere, but not in a, I want to start him this week unless it's just a desperation play.

I would still prefer Jerry Judy, but neither one of these wide receivers are in my top 40. I want to add Jameis Winston on Superflex, but I don't really even want to start him on Superflex. Jamie, disagree? Agree? No, I agree. I mean, look, Njoku, first game without Cooper, first game where there was quarterback change. Granted, it was all three guys playing, but the 14 targets, 10 catches, that's impressive for Njoku. And we know what he was last year when it wasn't Deshaun Watson.

So he was a league winner, 16 PPR points or more, I think, in four of his last five games with Joe Flacco. So the upside is immense. And Heath is right. This is a good discovery game for the Browns receivers. Can Judy command more than five targets and get more than one catch? Can Tillman get eight catches a catch? This is going to be interesting to see.

The thing you don't want to see is you don't want to see an Elijah Moore game. I don't want to disparage Elijah Moore, but you'd like to see one of the other two guys step up and do something. Sure. Cedric, from the chat, Cedric Tillman or Demario Douglas? Assuming Douglas is healthy, I'll go Douglas. Me too. Cedric Tillman or Deontay Johnson?

It's still Deontay Johnson. Yep. Tillman. I'm going to take a shot on Tillman. Look, I could see. I don't understand. We've had at least five minutes of rashad bateman discussion yeah i know on the show and and we're gonna we're gonna waste your one time of playing

the music on till man we think the ravens are gonna we think the ravens are gonna score right like a lot we're not fear we don't fear the browns defense who haven't they scored a lot on yeah exactly so you can easily see this scenario. Imagine when you look back on the season and say the Raiders beat the Ravens. Like, this is amazing. We can easily see this scenario of the Browns throwing a ton in the second half.

Yeah. I could also see a scenario of Deontay Johnson has two catches. Alright, whatever. Low stakes wager. Me versus Heath and Jamie. I'll take Tillman. They'll take right, you know, whatever. Low stakes wager, me versus Ethan Jamie. I'll take Tillman. They'll take Deontay Johnson. All right, so Nick Chubb, start or sit?

Flex. Sit. Yeah, it's a horrible matchup, obviously. And he was 11 carries for 22 yards and a touchdown with one catch last week against the Bengals. And Baltimore does give up the fourth most receiving yards to running backs. I don't know if that's really going to help Nick Chubb, but let's try to keep him on the bench this week.

All right, so over to the Ravens side. Start Jackson, start Henry. Any interest in Justice Hill this week? Should not be a Justice Hill game. No. Although, you know, Dave brought up an interesting point, I think it was either Sunday or Tuesday, about Justice Hill game. No. Although, Dave brought up an interesting point, I think it was either Sunday or Tuesday, about Justice.

When you know they're going to have a little bit of trouble running the ball, the Hills' big play came in the first half. There could be an opportunity here, but you've got to be stuck. During the bye weeks, I don't think anybody needs them. In my opinion,

there has been no rhyme or reason to a Justice Hill game. It was a shootout last week, but it was also a blowout for a lot of it. They were playing from ahead. Not originally. I know that they got off to a hot start. You look at the game scripts, it hasn't really followed up. I don't know.

The one game script that you can look at, now that we know how their run defense is, is the Chiefs, which is one of his best games. I guess so. Yeah, I guess so. That was Henry's worst game, I think. Fair enough. All right, let's talk about the Baltimore wide receivers then. How do you feel about

Zay Flowers coming off a game with one catch on one target and an ankle injury and missing practice on Wednesday? Yeah, Jamie, you can start. Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman here against the Cleveland Browns, who are 23rd against wide receivers and they give up a ton of of big plays believe it or not there's no way i'm sitting

flowers if he's active so he's he's at least a number two receiver if he's out then bateman becomes a definite starter and three receiver he's just a matter of you know where he'll end up being ranked but probably in that right around 30th number you know so we're tank dell um romeo dobbs type of range you know those type of guys if flowers plays then bateman is a boom bust number three flex type of wide receiver where you hope you continue to get the five targets four or five targets and he makes a player two down the field because it's it's this is one of those things just go back to what we're talking. You're attaching yourself to one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL right now, and one of the best offenses.

So why would you not want to take a shot on it? And I think your comps were very fair in terms of who would you rather have, Jamison Williams, Christian Watson, Rashad Bateman. And I think the answer right now, with Williams on a two-game suspension, has to be Bateman. Heath, do you have any hot takes about the Ravens wide receivers or shall we move on?

I have no hot takes. I think the Ravens are one of the easiest teams this week. I mean, the difficulty comes with the Ravens tight ends. And I have got Mark Andrews pushed up into that top 12 range now. I think he's tied in 11 for me. Isaiah likely is right in the Dalton Schultz range. Did have another end zone target last week, so I don't think you're completely drawing dead if you start Isaiah

Likely. He could score a touchdown. Ooh, drawing dead. I like that. I don't think I've heard that on this show. I play poker. That's a poker term, right? Yeah. Nice. Well done. Question from the chat. Oh, big time. The double tap on this.

Tillman or Baitman? Baitman. Oh, God. Just when Pittman's going away, we get this. What'd you say? You said Baitman? Baitman it is. Yes.

All right. And then you just talked about Mark Andrews, and he's ranked similarly for Jamie's right around 11th for both of you. Okay. Sit Jameis Winston, but maybe a DFS. I could see a DFS Brown stack. Jets are at the

Patriots. Oh, sorry. Sorry, Schaefer. You put the lower third up there or whatever. Do we want to start the Ravens defense? They suck. You guys have them ranked pretty high. They are a bad DST. Well, I mean, look, if you tell me Jameis is throwing how many times, give me a number.

40. Okay, so that's two pick sixes and three. Okay, fair enough. All right, let's go. Throw it back up there, Shaver. Jets are at the Patriots. The Jets are seven-point favorites. This was, I would say, the best moment

of the season for the Jets. I'm forgetting what their other win was, but they really thrashed the Patriots at home on Thursday night. Now it's time for the Patriots revenge in their own building. Here is your stat of the game you heard on Monday, because obviously you listened to Beyond the Box score, because if you didn't, we're no longer friends. Garrett Wilson had a 40% slot rate with Devante Adams. It's a season high. Devante Adams had a 50.9% slot rate. That is his highest maybe ever, but it's definitely his highest since at least 2017 when True Media started calculating and tracking slot rate. So those guys were both used in the slot quite a bit. I don't know if that matters at all,

but it will get them away from Christian Gonzalez if anyone cares about that. I think he did a pretty good job on Garrett Wilson in the first game. Anyway, I asked you earlier, Heath, are you expecting a big day from the Jets offense? We expressed some optimism. So how are you ranking Rodgers, Wilson, Adams? Rodgers is a low-end top 12 quarterback.

Hall is a must-start number one running back. Adams and Wilson are both high-end to mid-range wide receiver twos. You're probably starting all of them. I can't remember. I saw one wide receiver. Oh, you had Garrett. One of you, maybe it was Dave, actually, had Garrett Wilson over Brian Thomas Jr. Would you start either or both Jets receivers over Brian Thomas Jr.? No. I have both Jets over Brian Thomas Jr. Why is that?

I still think, they both saw nine targets last week. I still think there's a good chance that Brian Thomas has some five and six target games. I don't think he's actually a number one wide receiver and I've got these guys ranked as high end. Number two. Who are we starting Aaron Rogers over?

Would you start him over Jared golf against the Titans? I would. No. Would you start Rogers over Caleb Williams at Washington? No, I would. Would you start him over Joe Burrow against the Eagles? No.

No. How about Dak Prescott at San Francisco? Yes. No. Okay. So obviously Jamie's not as high on Aaron Rodgers as Heath is. Oh, he's 12, but you name guys ahead of him. If we could maybe, and by the way, start Breece Hall and sit Conklin.

Lazard, real quick on Lazard? No. Desperation, touchdown only type of play. It sounded like you were refusing to even give a real quick on Lazard there. Right, I was.

I do think Braylon Allen has some sleeper appeal. So if we could take kind of a a statty beyond the box score. I don't think I got into this necessarily on beyond the box score. I don't think I got into this necessarily on beyond

the box score. I did say that the Jets going into Monday night, I haven't looked at the updated, but going into Monday night, they were tied for the second fewest pass attempts of 30 or more air yards. And they only had one completion of 30 or more air yards this year. And it was a Hail Mary to Alan Lazard. So I went back and I looked at, were there any good passing offenses over the last five seasons, or last three seasons, pardon me, 21 to 23, that were bottom five in completions

of 30 or more air yards? In other words, can you be a good passing offense if you don't hit on any deep balls? And I didn't find a single top 10 passing offense in terms of, I think I was looking at passing yards per game. I think gross passing yards per game. So there were fine offenses that ranked

in 11th, 12th, 13th in passing yards, but there were also a lot of terrible passing offense. So my point is the Jets can throw as much as they want. They're third in the NFL per game in pass attempts, but Rogers is like 21st or something in yards per attempt until they start throwing the ball downfield a little bit and completing the ball downfield. They're not going to be that good. That has to start happening.

I think like that thing might be true in terms of like, and we don't think they're elite. They're playing the Patriots. So that's what we're, we're like ranking Rogers as a low-end starter. But also, there's some correlation and causation there. One of the reasons

they have so many pass attempts is because they're throwing so short, and they're just going up and down the field. It takes them a lot of plays, because they don't have the big plays. And that's good for Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams in leagues where they get a point for every catch i suppose but they're not making any big plays and you know that's the life they

were they wouldn't have near as many paths why do you anticipate this offense making a lot of big plays well they have they have davante adams and garrett wilson i would hope that they could make some big they also have a 40 year old quarterback with coming off an Achilles injury. Like, you know, I think about the throw where Mike Williams fell down on the interception, you know, right? Where Rodgers blamed the route. Like, that was like a helium balloon. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.

I just think that if that's how you feel about Aaron Rodgers, then it should impact how you feel about Adams and Wilson. But not for this week, though. No, no, no. This was a broader conversation. I get what you're saying. I just think like the way this offense is going to operate is going to be like a big play for,

for them is, you know, 25, 30 yards. Like, I don't think we're getting a lot of 40 plus yard plays out of this offense. Unless it's a broken tackle.

Yeah. All right. I mean, I'm curious to see, well, look, we're expecting everything to be better going forward, but they have no vertical passing game. It doesn't help.

Drake May. Any interest in Drake May? Start or sit? Sit. I'll give you a quick stat on Drake May. He has averaged right around 50 yards per game in his two starts in each of the first, second, and third quarters

and 110 yards per game in the fourth quarter. And pretty consistently in each game, have a lot of passing yards. He's just been kind of like trailing garbage timey, not quite, but trailing comfort behind efforts. All right, how do you feel about the Patriots running backs this week against the Jets,

who have struggled against the run? Ramondre's a sit. Everybody else is an avoid. Yeah. I think I've got Remondre at 30 running back, which is right behind Nick Chubb, definitely behind Alexander Madison. I don't want to start Alexander Madison or Nick Chubb.

So that's how I feel about Remondre Stevenson. It's really just like Hunter Henry is a low-end starter. And I think like, don't let the illness cause you to drop to Mario Douglas or even bench him. If you don't have a better option because his, when he's been on the field with Drake may like, he looks like an, his alpha number one wide receiver in terms of target share,

he could have a big game even against a tough matchup. And he doesn't play. I hope he can get up to, you know, 75, 80% percent snapshot i don't know if that's going to happen but well it's funny because jrod mayo was talking about two weeks ago how he wanted to try to play him more on two wide receiver sets and then the very next game douglas is sick and can't but i think i think gibbs had a pretty good tweet thread about how much success douglas has against the type of defense, the jets play good. Now I'm excited for,

for him. And as of yesterday, he was 49% rostered. So take a look at the Mario Douglas, by the way, tank Bigsby or Ramondre Stevenson. Tank tank. Okay.

And Douglas or Dobbs. Dobbs. I think I am full PPR. I think I, in full PPR, I think I have Douglas ranked higher. They're definitely in that wide receiver three conversation. I will go, they're back-to-back. I'll go Douglas. And Hunter Henry is,

I think we've talked about him quite a bit, but he's 58% rostered as of yesterday. That's probably higher now. I'm going to double check. But he's a low-end starter. Jamie, who are some guys you would start Hunter Henry over? I would start Hunter Henry over Laporta. I would start him over Kincaid.

I would start him over Schultz, even though he has a good matchup. He is now 59% rostered. The Jets, how are they doing against tight ends? Well, they held Henry to two catches for nine yards when we were a little excited about him in week two. George Kittle, 40 yards. Dalton Kincaid, six for 51. Pat Fryer, two for 51.

And the Jets' DST, stardom, you like him this week? Yes, mid-range starter. Stardom. By the way, is Hassan Reddick going to play this week? He's expected to. Oh, good. Because they definitely need help there. Arizona is at Miami.

I don't have a stat of the game, but I do have a schedule alert. Arizona's next three opponents rank first, second, and fourth against quarterbacks. That would be Miami, Chicago, and the Jets. And their opponent after that is even better. It's the bye week. So I don't know how that makes you feel about having Kyler Murray right now. You might want to have another quarterback.

Now, are the Dolphins really that good defensively? Heath, as you said earlier, we'll probably find out a little bit more this week. Starters at Kyler Murray, Heath. He's a low-end QB one for me, but I should probably move him down a little bit. I have not really bought in to this Dolphins pass defense, and they did have a good game against Josh Allen,

but Josh Allen also, it was a blowout. He threw 19 passes and didn't run at all. So I just don't know how much I want to downgrade Murray for the matchup. If he's in my start, like another one of those guys probably where if I started him last week and I wasn't carrying a backup quarterback,

I'm not picking anybody up. I'm just starting him. NFL Network was reporting that there is a chance Puka can play tonight. That would be incredible. I don't even know. Okay, if he plays tonight, how would that affect the rankings

for him and Cup and Stafford? Uh, Stafford, probably not so much. Cause I don't know how much, you know, healthy Puka is and cup is, and the Vikings are still a very good defense.

So he would still be at best a number two receiver. He maybe moves up three or four spots. Cup would drop down to a wide receiver two in the teens and puka would be a low end number two receiver yeah i think it really depends on if we get like at seven o'clock puka is going to play but he'll be very limited or like what's the report but if they if if it's just that they're both going to play and they're both fine, then I would say Cup probably around 18, Puka around 22. Okay. All right.

As we get back to Arizona-Miami, why don't you tell me who the guys – who are the must-start guys in this game, Heath? So Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup. No, no, no. Sorry. Arizona-Miami. Sorry. No problem.

I was – you know, I got thrown off. Mustards. Connor? I think A-Chan probably. Tyreek, obviously. McBride? Yeah. McBride. Jamie, how do you see it? Who are the Mustards? I agree with what he said, and I would say Waddle's a Mustard.

Can you make the case? Would you make the case to start Otten or Henry over McBride? I think if you buy into the Dolphins defense being as good as the numbers suggest, then you can make the case for those guys over him. Look, McBride hasn't scored a touchdown yet. So there's that concern.

And we saw the downside from last week. I mean, five catches and minimal yards. So it's not like he's been just dominating, like Brock Bowers, for example. So you can certainly go that route, but that would require picking up and carrying two tight ends that have the potential to give you headache

unless you want to play one in the flex. So I would probably still just stick with McBride. I would say I can definitely make the case for Otten. I'm not making it. He's one spot behind McBride. I can't make the case for Otten. I'm not making it. He's one spot behind McBride. I can't make the case for Hunter Henry, really. Yeah, Trey McBride only has one end zone target this year and only four red zone targets so far.

You never know. That could change. He could have two this week, but that's one of the reasons why he hasn't caught a touchdown. James Conner or A-chan, who do you like better? Conner. I have A-chan. Who do you like better? Conner. I have A-chan. Tua or Kyler?

I have Tua one spot ahead of Kyler. Kyler. Okay, Tua or Purdy? Tua. Tua. Let's say Debo plays. Still Tua? Tua.

Tua. Okay. Play the clip. Oh, yeah. Schaefer, do we have the clip? We do. All right, let's go. Okay. Play the clip. Oh, yeah. Schaefer, do we have the clip? We do. All right, let's go. Let's play that clip.

Oh. We're back, baby. Strike up the band. We're back, baby. Start me this week, baby. Let's go. That's Tyreek Hill. He's pumped up.

Yeah, so thank you to Thomas Schaefer for that. Yeah, they're ready to go. We're hoping for the Dolphins to be back. So, yeah, let's talk about Jalen Wfer for that. Yeah, they're ready to go. We're hoping for the Dolphins to be back. So, yeah, let's talk about Jalen Waddell. Jamie, you're optimistic for Waddell this week? I mean, we saw week one with a healthy Tua. He had 16 PPR points. And, you know, this is, I would imagine,

everybody in that building shares that same excitement that Tyreek Hill has. And so I know the Cardinals' defense has looked good at times against the run, good at times against the pass. I don't care. I mean, two of healthy, the receivers have the ability to both be top 10 guys. So Tyreek is number two for me in my rankings. And Jalen Waddle is in the top right around 20th.

You know, so there's just so much potential for these guys. Like it's, it's just exciting that, you know, McDaniel's playbook is now fully open and these guys are, I mean, I hope, you know, Waddle's healthy with the quad injury, but as long as they're starting, I'm starting. But Heath, you are not starting Marvin Harrison jr. He's 33rd for you in your PPR rankings. Whereas for Jamie, he's around 23rd. Yeah. Um, I think he's up to 31st now, but I, I don't really, I mean, I wouldn't say that that means I'm not starting him, but I, I don't really want to, um, I, I've talked about this before and there it's changed randomly on occasion that Marvin Harrison gets to do something besides run up and down the sideline. But for the most part, that's what they're having him do.

And he's not been successful on go routes and they just keep having him run them. So it's a situation where at the very least, whether Miami has a great defense or not, they look like they have a funnel defense that is much better against the pass than it is against the rush. And Arizona shown even when they're behind that they would rather run the ball than pass the ball. So I just, I can't count on a high volume pass game and I can't count on a high efficient game from Harrison. So I may, he might get up to 28 or 29,

but it's really just, I'm starting him because like tank Dell, I'm afraid he might have a monster game. And he, by the way, I started the show saying, what's the one Marvin Harrison Jr. stat that sums up his struggles?

To me, it's his catch rate, 46.5% catch rate. And I talk about his route depth all the time, but his really high, fourth highest, fifth highest in the NFL. But his ADOT is reasonable. It's like 13 and a half yards. A 46 and a half percent catch rate is just awful. Kind of makes me feel like better times are ahead, like almost like how could it be that bad for him?

I don't think he's getting very many easy ones. That's true. It's not like they're running wide receiver screens for him or anything like that, but still 46.5%. Or even like a slant. Could he run a slant? I think like the exciting thing and maybe the scary thing for some of these other rookies, like Brian Thomas, for example, is this is usually the point where they start to peak.

They start to get better as the season goes on. So maybe that's what happens for Harrison is that, okay, he's starting to figure things out. Things are slowing down a little bit. He's getting on the same page with Murray. You're just not seeing it right now. But maybe that's what's coming in the next couple of weeks. Imagine, though, if those other, but maybe that's what's coming in the next couple of weeks. Imagine though, if those other guys,

if that's what happens and you see the best of Thomas and neighbor still to come. Yeah. I think for, for Harrison, you could say, well, tough schedule coming up dolphins,

bears jets, then a buy. I know it's a long time, but maybe it's the second half. Maybe it's after his buy. Maybe it's just like the last few weeks of the fantasy regular season and into the playoffs where we see him take off. This could be the point for Odunze, for example.

Yeah. I feel like we've covered this game. Anything else to add here? Actually, I'm sorry. I think we should do some more Devon Achan, because it's not like he's in your top 12. He had seven catches in both games with Tua. He scored like 23 or more fantasy points in both games with Tua. He scored like 23 or more fantasy points in both games with Tua.

But you're still like not top 12 on A-chan right now. He's 18th for Jamie, 16th for Dave, 14th for Heath in full PPR. Obviously going to be a little bit lower in non-PPR, half. So I don't know if there's anything else you want to say about him. Just depends on who you have. I mean, you know, it's actually, I think, a pretty good week. So most people are starting Devon Achan. You got to be in a really good spot to not start him as either a running back or a flex.

From the chat, Achan or Jordan Mason? Achan for me. I've got Mason. Okay. All right. We're going to take a break here. We have three games left, but they're pretty easy games. So we'll talk about, we got the New Orleans game.

We got Carolina-Denver. We got Kansas City-Las Vegas. And we'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Back here talking Saints and Chargers. Stat of the game. This one is from NOLA.com. The Saints are allowing 146.7 rushing yards per game through seven games. That is the most for a Saints team in 12 seasons. And they go on to say the Saints

are yielding a whopping 2.62 yards before contact this season, according to NextGenStats. That is the worst in the NFL, and it's on track to be the most yards before contact allowed by an NFL defense since the 2018 Seattle Seahawks. That's how bad the Saints' run defense has been. Would you start J.K. Dobbins or Devon Achan? Dobbins. I would start Dobbins. Would you start Chris Olave with Spencer Rattler? I would like to avoid it, but in three or zero leagues, I think he's starting for sure.

He's probably going to be a little bit lower for me in that wide receiver 36 range. I think I'd rather start Demario Douglas. Let's do this game in 90 seconds or less. Jamie, talk about Saints, Chargers, and anything we need to know. Alvin Kamara is a start, but don't love him. Hopefully we get five plus catches again, but it's just a difficult matchup and now he's dealing with an injury. The rest of the Saints are not worth trusting, including Olave. But he would be in that three-receiver range for me. If Olave is out, then you've got some desperation plays if you're stuck,

you know, with Cedric Wilson and Bub Means and Tipton, and it's just a mess. The Chargers, you're starting Dobbins without hesitation. You're starting the Chargers DST. You're starting Cameron Dicker. And maybe if you're stuck in a three receiver league, lad, McConkie, we're going to have some questions in the chat.

Camara or Javante Williams, Javante Camara for me, Olave or bait man. Uh, this will still be a lava unless, uh, flowers up. I'll probably have it.

Bait man. Olave or Mason or Jennings, PPR? Mason. Mason. Okay, what if it was just Olave or Jennings? Jennings hasn't practiced yet. It would be Jennings if there's no Debo. It would be Olave if Debo plays.

Okay. Olave or Jalen McMillan? McMillan. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Okay. I think that's it for this game.

There you go. Start the Chargers DST, as Jamie already mentioned. And let's go to the Chiefs and the Raiders. Heath, what an unmerry Christmas the Raiders gave you last year. The last time these two teams played, the Raiders went into Arrowhead and won 20-14, and Aiden O'Connell threw for 62 yards. But Zemir White had 22 carries for 145 yards, and the Raiders scored two touchdowns on defense

and probably helped secure Antonio Pierce a long-term deal. Is that the last time the team had a good run game against the Chiefs? It's very possible because, no, I don't think so. But they were great in the playoffs against the run. Well, the Ravens did not run against them. They didn't try. The 49ers did not have success running against them.

The Bills, I think the week before, did not. It may have been the last time. Do you want to talk about playing chess when everybody else is playing checkers? The Chiefs are like, yeah, let's secure this regime for a few years. It would be well worth it. The Raiders also, we had the off-season Kermit the Frog puppet thing with Patrick Mahomes, if you'll remember.

The Chiefs are 10-point favorites in this game. They should not be 10-point favorites over anyone because they don't beat teams like that. But they'll probably do it. You start Kareem Hunt. You start Travis Kelsey. You start Brock Bowers. Jacoby Myers, if he plays, I think is pretty interesting.

He'll be a high-end number three for me if we get him into the rankings yeah i got a stat on him i got a lot of good stats for this game believe it or not he has three straight games with nine or ten targets and he hasn't played two weeks in a row jacoby myers there are four wide receivers with eight to ten targets against the chiefs three of them scored 14.6 or more ppr fantasy points they were drake london darnell mooney, and Rashid Shahid. I can't say that Jacoby Myers isn't on the same level as Mooney or Shahid. The one guy who didn't was Zay Flowers. He had a bunch of targets. He had eight to 10 targets, only 11.1 PPR fantasy points. But Myers becomes pretty interesting. And Madison, I know we talked about him at the

start of the show. One question for each game. Madison has had two great games in a row. He's getting about 17, 18 touches. He'll catch a little bit. He'll catch some passes. But it is such a horrible matchup here. So how about this? If Jacoby Myers plays, who's a better flex, Myers or Madison? What'd you say? Myers.

Myers? Myers. Okay. Who's a better option, Hopkins or Myers? Myers. That's a better option, Hopkins or Myers? Myers. That's interesting. I'd say Myers, but it's going to be fun to see what Hopkins does if he plays. I think Hopkins or Worthy is more the range that I'm at with it.

I'll have Myers ahead of both those guys. And Hopkins and Worthy are more in that like boom bust flex range. I think you probably get 20 snaps from Deandre Hopkins and you hope that he scores a touchdown and with worthy every week, you're just hoping he hits the big play. Someone said, someone said nice hair. Adam has a way to get me to read the question and it's going to work.

It was Hopkins Wanda. Where is it? Hopkins Wanda or Keenan Allen? Wandale. Wandale. Jacoby Myers, Bateman, or Puka? Puka if he plays. Then Myers in PPR, Bateman in non,

unless Flowers is out, then Bateman over Myers. Okay, Myers or Wandale? Wandale Wanda I'd go Myers but you know I'm so down on the Giants yeah what did you think about John Mara

like we're not making any changes I like it I wouldn't make any changes either and one more year for Daniel Jones oh no that change they'll make no no changes at the top

now teams I think I have to realize you can get into an endless cycle of hiring and firing, and it just maybe sometimes sticking it out is the best option. So would you rather have Bill Belichick or Brian Dable? Brian Dable. Okay, so stat of the game. The other one, how about this?

There are two quarterbacks in the NFL that have thrown... Okay, sorry. There are 26 quarterbacks with seven or more green zone pass attempts. 26 quarterbacks that have thrown the ball seven or more times inside the 10-yard line. Two of them have only thrown one touchdown pass. The other

24 have thrown at least two. Most of them have thrown three or more. Who are the two quarterbacks with seven or more green zone pass attempts and only one touchdown? Patrick Mahomes. And? Gardner Minshew. Yes. But Mahomes, 12 green zone pass attempts, only one touchdown.

Even though he's not playing that well, there's probably some bad touchdown luck. He does have the lowest air yards per pass attempt in football. 5.6. He has like the second lowest air yards per pass attempt in football 5.6 he has like the second lowest completion complete uh second lowest air yards per completion in the nfl ahead of only jacoby brissett but still i think things could be a little bit like if i was the chiefs to the 20 snaps that deandre hopkins would play would be all be inside the 20 like just probably for the

next two months just play him in the red zone. I think that's the place he'll make the big impact. Like or love Kareem Hunt this week? A lot like him. Yeah, Jamie's higher, 14th. Heath has him, I think, 22nd. I think he might be up to 20th now, but yeah. Okay.

A running back has scored 15.5 or more PPR fantasy points in every single game against the Raiders. Let's keep that going. And we don't sound too enthused about the Chiefs receivers. Travis Kelsey is a start. Minshew's sit. Madison tried to sit. Jacoby Myers we just talked about a lot.

Brock Bowers is the man. Chiefs DST start them. Carolina is at Denver. This is probably a repeat stat of the game. The Panthers have allowed 17.8 or more PPR fantasy points to seven running backs in seven games. And they have allowed 13 running back rushing touchdowns in seven games.

That's insane. So we like Javante Williams quite a bit. And I don't really have much else to say about this game. So if you missed it on one question for each game, we've more or less covered it, but Jamie, go ahead and cover it again. Carolina at Denver.

I think Bo Nix is a good sleeper. If you're stuck at quarterback or concerned, or just want to play the matchups, just a matter of who you're going to start them over. Check our rankings. Heath is very high on him. I'm a little bit lower, but I understand the optimism and sports line is very high on Bo Nix as

well. I think it's a bounce back game for Cortland Sutton who had no targets last week. And I also think Troy Franklin, we haven't really spent a lot of time this week talking about him, but he's had back to back solid performances for where he is on the team that he's at. Squared a touchdown two games ago,

five for 50 last week. There is that Oregon connection. So if you are stuck with all the receiver injuries, we probably didn't talk about him on Tuesday enough that he could be in the deeper league, somebody to pick up, especially given the matchup outside of really though Sutton potentially Knicks and definitely Javante Williams and the Broncos defense. Those are really the only options you could trust for Carolina. I think it's just borderline starter for Chuba Hubbard and try to avoid Deontay Johnson because Bryce Young starting.

And I still also do think, you know, we talked about some Tuesday, if you have the ability to still stash to Tavion Sanders in a deeper league, don't give up on them just because Dalton is not playing. I think what we've seen the last two weeks is hopefully a sign of things to come. Yeah. Three weeks really for him.

He's playing more. I think he has six or more targets and three straight games to Tavion Sanders. You kept talking about Sutton. Uh, do you like him better than, say, Jacoby Myers? No. For this week, I would start him ahead of Myers.

I think also, like, go make sure Troy Franklin's rostered. Yeah. Because, like, it was a terrible, terrible start to his Broncos career, but he does have that connection with the quarterback, and it looks like he's getting a little bit more playing time. He can become a thing. Did I just say the same thing somebody else said? Yeah, yeah.

You know, you do that to me so often. I'm glad I get to do it once. All the time. You did it to JB, not to me, but yes, that is kind of my trademark. So Chuba Hubbard, where do you guys have him ranked? 20? 22. All right, so we're not running away from Chuba Hubbard.

You still start him over Ramondre Stevenson and Nick Chubb and Tank Bigsby. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Things were so bad for him though

with Bryce Young. With Bryce Young, he scored 1.4 fantasy points at New Orleans and 11.6 fantasy points against the Chargers. The Broncos are pretty good against the run. 3.9 yards per carry to running backs. Alright, that's it for this

game. We talked about Deontay earlier. That's the player that Heath wanted to avoid, so you can rewind to that. We talked about Bo Nix earlier. Heath's high on him. Jamie likes him as a sleeper. Have a great day, everybody. Have a great night. Enjoy the game tonight, and we will talk to you tomorrow with the NFC home games on Fantasy Football.

We'll be right back.