Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Stroud, Dobbs, Achane and More! (11/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Let's get into Week 11, baby. Here we go. Playoffs are rapidly approaching. We got to get some wins. We're going to help you set your lineups for the AFC home game. Seven games that we're talking about today on the show on Fantasy Football Today. And today's episode is presented by Salesforce. All right. What's the slate today? Well, we got that Monday night game, Philadelphia at Kansas City, Las Vegas at Miami, Arizona at Houston. See if I can get through these games without coughing here.

Arizona at Houston, Minnesota at Denver, Tennessee at Jacksonville, Pittsburgh at Cleveland, and the Jets at the Bills. I did it. Here we go. I had a chip. I had a few chips before I came on the show, and one of them is kind of chips. It's 8.45 in the morning. Well, you know, my wife gave my son his snack for school and packed it, and she left the bag of chips

out. And I can't walk past the bag of tortilla chips and not take a few, even at 8.30 in the morning. So I had some chips. That's true. I do the same thing. Yeah, right? But now I'm paying for it. So you're kind of stuck there. Anyway, guys, which game do you think will be better? Tonight's game, Bengals-Ravens or Eagles-Chiefs?

I would think Eagles-Chiefs simply because Thursday night games are always a little bit of a struggle. These two teams are coming off a bye, respectively, so they've had enough time to prepare. Plus, it's a Super Bowl rematch, so I'm going to lean

that one, but this one should be interesting. Yeah. It's so hard with the Ravens because I kind of feel like the Ravens are going to trounce the Bengals, but what they usually do is trounce the team in the first three quarters and then give the game away in the fourth. Even if they get two scores in the third quarter,

I'm not going to feel confident that Baltimore is still going to win. It should be chiefs Eagles, right? I mean, even though the Eagles are clearly a better team than the chiefs and have a much better quarterback, I think that it should be. All right, guys. That's everybody thought in the Superbowl too, right? That fumble was that fumble, man. They would have would have won the super bowl i don't know why i'm so upset about it i wasn't rooting for the return to the you've always been an eagles fan yeah right all right let's get into starter sit for uh fantasy week 11

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And if you round up, he has scored 20 fantasy points in all of them, all seven of them. His first start ever as a member of the 49ers was against Tampa Bay. If you recall, he beat Tom Brady head to head, and he scored 25 fantasy points against the Bucs that day. He had two touchdowns passing and one rushing, but really it's about the matchup. The Bucs have allowed three of their past five opposing quarterbacks to score over 26 fantasy points. They're giving up an average of over 21 points per game. Two opposing passers.

We saw what Purdy looked like last week when he had all of his guys healthy, including Trent Williams, and he was fantastic with three passing touchdowns. So it's a little surprising that he's not started in more leagues, but under 50% started. So the setup for Brock Purdy is pretty fantastic. Top 10 quarterback for this week. It's a great week for quarterbacks. He said that, I believe, on yesterday's show.

And he'll be one of the great players at the position this week. Alright, with the disclaimer that I'm going to be pretty mad at you if you get this wrong, I have it right now. I will move Purdy into my lineup and bench Burrow if you guys give me the thumbs up. I am doing

that in our podcast league. And that was also at the suggestion of the person I share the team with, the great Todd Rones. He said that earlier in the week league and that was also at the suggestion of the uh person i shared the team with the uh great todd roans um he he said that earlier in the week and i said you're 100 right okay so i think this is probably a good time for me like because i'm gonna be asked why are you so low on brock pretty i've got burrow just ahead of pretty but the the guys from 11 to 15 are all within like 21 to 20 or 20 fantasy points. And so I could have Purdy at 11 pretty easily if I just make the Jamie start of the week adjustment to the projections.

I would appreciate it. It would give me peace of mind. Who's the player that you love, Heath? It's Trey McBride. He's my tight end three in the projections this week, tight end four in the rankings, just because I can't rank him ahead of Kelsey Hawkinson or Mark Andrews, but I kind of want to, it's a fantastic matchup. The Texans see the most targets to opposing tight ends. McBride has had two completely dominant games since Zach Ertz got hurt averaging 17 fantasy points per game, even though he played one of those games with Clayton Toon.

This guy is a league winner. He's a week winner. He's the only tight end you should consider in DFS because Hawkinson, Andrews, and Kelsey are all on buy. All right, McBride, yeah, against the Texans. Not on buy, all on primetime. Right, not in the DFS slate. Yes, Houston, Heath mentioned they see the most targets.

They also give up the most fantasy points to tight ends. And I will say something about that game with Clayton Toon. He had three catches for 22 yards. Toon only threw for 58 yards. So that was a great game for Trey McBride. 22 out of 58 yards, that's a good ratio. All right, we like Brock Purdy and we love Trey McBride. We love Brock Purdy, we love Trey McBride.

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in Fantasy Week 11. Heath, are you ready? I am ready, and I think everybody's with me this time. It's Trevor Lawrence. He is not even a top 15 quarterback for me. He checks in at 17 or 18 this week. He just hasn't. I mean, the biggest problem is he can't get that second touchdown.

The red zone production for this offense has been awful, and they've not gotten to the red zone all that often. I don't have confidence in him throwing more than one touchdown. I don't have confidence in him getting to 300 yards. I don't have confidence in him throwing more than one touchdown. I don't have confidence in him getting to 300 yards. I don't have confidence in him scoring 20 fantasy points. This is supposed to be a great matchup against the Tennessee Titans, and I don't think their secondary is good, but they have only given up more than 255 passing yards once since week three,

and they've only allowed three quarterbacks all season to throw multiple touchdown passes against them. So they're kind of a bin but don't break past defense and jacksonville is a bend the other defense but don't ever break it offense so i i think they have the best red zone defense or one of the best red zone defenses in football tennessee so that's not great matchup against jacksonville okay all right heath with the caveat I'm going to be mad if you get this wrong, I will put Tommy DeVito in for Trevor Lawrence. I would not go that far.

I would. There's only one streamer that I would start over Trevor Lawrence. Only one streamer in my top 16 quarterbacks this week, and he might already be too rostered now, but Jordan Love is the one guy who was available in 40% of leagues at the beginning of the week

that I would start over Lawrence. Okay. Yeah, I was just joking about that. By the way, second best red zone percentage defense, Tennessee. That means how many times do teams score touchdowns

when they're red zone? Number one, uh-oh, start of the week, it's Tampa Bay. All right, don't worry about it. Purdy will throw a few touchdowns from outside the red zone. Jamie, who are you avoiding? I thought you were going to say number one

for start of the week could be Brandon McManus because the Titans give up a lot of field goals because they don't give up a lot of touchdowns. You're looking for a kicker option. McManus is not bad this week at all. I don't want to, but Isaiah Pacheco against the Eagles. They're the number one run defense in terms of fantasy points allowed.

And I know he's had a fantastic season and he deserves all the credit for it, but he's coming off two stinkers in his last two games against Miami and Denver. And going up against this opponent with the fact that it's not like it's a slam dunk that Pacheco is just going to all of a sudden catch these passes and all of a sudden fall into the end zone. Eagles have allowed, I believe it's just two touchdowns to running backs all year. I would try to sit him if you can. I'm not going to get cute and start necessarily like Keaton Mitchell tonight

over Pacheco, but if there is no Madison, I would start Ty Chandler over him. I would consider Devin Singletary over him as well. Gus Edwards I like better tonight. And Daryl Henderson I like better than Pacheco this week. Could be a mistake. Gus Edwards, wow. Just based on the matchup.

Yeah. I mean, look, Gus Edwards is basically a team that just allowed Devin Singletary to go for $1.50. It's not like it's a crazy thought that the guy who's been fairly consistent in finding the end zone is better than Pacheco. Again, if you just look at the most recent stretch of games, Edwards has been better. Yeah. So there are actually five teams in the NFL that have allowed only one running back all season to score more than 15 PPR fantasy points.

And two of them are playing Monday night, the Eagles and the Chiefs, believe it or not. Both of them have allowed only one running back all year to score more than 15 fantasy points. The other three teams are Cleveland, New Orleans and Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay will certainly be tested this week against McCaffrey. All right. So to sum it up, Purdy and McBride were on the good side. Trevor Lawrence and Isaiah Pacheco, Lawrence for Heath, Pacheco for Jamie. Those are players that those guys are looking to avoid, and we will obviously get into much more a little bit later.

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Burrow? I have Fields one spot higher. I have Burrow one spot higher, I think. So that means Lamar Jackson over Fields? Yes. Okay. Dorian Thompson Robinson is going to start for Cleveland. He threw for

121 yards and three interceptions in his first game. I don't think that's fair. I was going to say Stefanski made a good point. He wants Dorian Thompson Robinson to have a week where he knows he's starting last time. It was Deshaun Watson got hurt in warmups. Okay, kid you're in go face Baltimore.

But I would have preferred PJ Walker for Mari Cooper. And the joke, I guess. Yeah, it's bad. Stinks. Trevor Lawrence. See, P.J. Walker for Amari Cooper and Njoku, I guess. Yeah. It's bad. It stinks. Trevor Lawrence... We'll see. Trevor Lawrence said his knee is feeling better.

He's been wearing a brace since week seven. And Matthew Stafford practiced in full. He is expected to play against Seattle. Running back Alexander Madison still in the concussion protocol, but feeling better. He's making progress, but still in the protocol. Damian Pierce progress, but still in the protocol. Damian Pierce mispracticed to start the week. Arizona claimed running back Michael Carter,

who the Jets just released. Raheem Mostert and Devon Achan were limited. Is there any indication that Achan might not play, or are we just fully expecting him to play this week? I believe the way that Mike McDaniels talked on Monday seemed to indicate he's playing. So I don't think it's a surprise that he's limited based on the injury report. But it does sound like he's playing.

Antonio Gibson mispracticed with a toe injury. And Deontay Foreman and Khalil Herbert were both limited. So we'll see what happens there as they face very tough run defense in Detroit. And wide receiver Justin Jefferson was limited. Heath, again to you, is there any indication that Jefferson might not play in this game?

We haven't received the all clear yet, so yeah, it's questionable for sure. I have a funny story real quick. So Rick Spielman does stuff with us as anybody's paying attention to our podcast are aware. He does the first with the first pick

podcast with Ryanyan wilson great listen um so i'm sitting next to rick and i said do you think jefferson's playing next week he's the general manager who drafted justin jefferson and he picks up his phone and he starts like looking at his phone scrolling through his phone maybe like four or five minutes go by he puts down his phone he goes he's playing like oh wow he texts somebody you know i said did you text somebody he goes no he just tweeted it he tweeted uh i believe jefferson tweeted can't wait to be back with this team or something like that that's great uh so wait so you asked him do you think he's playing and And the way you said the story, it gave me this picture that he did not answer you,

picked up his phone, did not speak to you for the next five minutes. Oh, no, I'm sorry. He said, the way I asked him, I said, is he playing next week? This was after I think they just won the game. And he said, no, it'll be in at least another week, is what he said.

Okay. All right. So good. So he did talk to you. That's good. T. what he said. Okay. All right. So good. So he did talk to you. That's good. T. Higgins is out. All right. Nico Collins was originally listed as a DNP, I think, but he practiced.

Noah Brown and Robert Woods mispracticed. Do we have any idea what to make of the Houston wide receivers? We will talk about this game soon. Start dang till. Yes. I believe there was a TV reporter in houston who tweeted that uh nico told him i'm playing this week all right what about noah brown you think just a maintenance day i hope so you know it would be very interesting if you know they just decide you know we're gonna alternate every

week you play this week i'll play next week um all right so So at this juncture, well, you'll have a practice report. Let's say Noah Brown does not practice. You got to start Tyler Boyd. Well, you may have done that anyway. I would start Tyler Boyd over Brown. I would start Tyler Boyd over Brown now that it appears Nico Collins is coming back. Right, right.

Okay. Would you start Tyler Boyd over Nico Collins? Unless he's practicing in full, I think you have to just for the safety factor of it. Okay. Depends on what your other options are, but I'd prefer Nico assuming he's playing. Agreed. Brandon Staley is hopeful that Keenan Allen can play.

Should we be picking up not only Quentin Johnston, but maybe Jalen Guyton? Yeah. And potentially Parham as well, even though I know he's got a little bit banged up but um i feel more comfortable at this point of him playing than i do of gerald ever playing all right if burrow or burrow or herbert oh if we get through today and keenan allen doesn't practice you got to play burrow to be safe yeah uh kj osborne likely back this week jaylen hyatt in the concussion protocol

courtland sutton posted a very funny russell wilson apology for him did you just happen to see that guys yes it was fantastic it was great it was just making fun of all the people who uh were distant well everyone in the world who dissed russell wilson all last year you know i don't know that wilson's really having that great it's kind of an interesting year for him, but it was a very very funny apology for him that someone created. I don't know if it was him. It was great. One of the reasons to apologize for Russell Wilson was

I don't know Jack Poo about football. It was very funny. Deontay Johnson mispracticed with a thumb injury. Again, we don't get too concerned about Wednesday mispractices unless, especially if a guy didn't leave the game injured. DJ Chark practiced in full. A tight end.

Hayden Hurst is in the concussion protocol facing Dallas this week. Donald Parham and Gerald Everett missed practice. I'd say more concern about Everett. Pat Fryermuth was limited. He can come back this week. Offensive line. Baltimore right tackle Ronnie Stanley is out. Seattle right tackle Abraham Lucas is designated to return from IR.

So that would be great for them. Raiders left tackle Colton Miller mispractice. He did not play last week. Cleveland right guard Wyatt Teller mispractice. And on defense, Giants have Adory Jackson and Kayvon Thibodeau, two key players for them in the concussion protocol. Frank Reich is taking back play calling. That's not a defensive note. But does this matter to you guys, Frank Reich protocol. Frank Reich is taking back play calling. That's not a defensive note,

but does this matter to you guys, Frank Reich, for the Panthers taking back play calling? Can he make Bryce Young taller? The drop-off in Adam Thielen's wide receiver one production coincided almost directly with the changing of the play caller. So maybe Adam Thielen's back. Okay. That's good to know.

Jimmy Ward mispractice and Denzel Perryman suspension was reduced to two games. And so he won't play this week against Arizona and Denzel Perryman. And he has made a pretty, a fairly big difference in their run defense. I can tell you more about that later. It's a little deceiving, I guess,

but this on paper, he has. Sam Hubbard out tonight for Cincinnati. Marlon Humphrey, doubtful for Baltimore. Pretty good news for Green Bay. Quay Walker was limited. They're a linebacker, hoping he gets back out there. And Jair Alexander's been out. He did not practice, but he's making progress. They get the Chargers this week. Jacksonville cornerback Tyson Campbell mispracticed. And Cleveland safety Juan Thornhill mispracticed, but Denzel Ward, it looks like he's going to play. I think the Browns' DST is a tough call.

We'll talk about that a little bit later, because they were horrible in the game that Dorian Thompson-Robinson started in Week 4. And Carolina edge Brian Burns practiced in full. And again, they get the Cowboys. We'll take a break. When we come back, they get the Cowboys. We'll take a break. When we come back, one question for each game. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.

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It's free. It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. One question for each game. Philadelphia at Kansas City. Is Rice a main course or just on the side this week? one question for each game. Philadelphia at Kansas City. Is Rice a main course or just on the side this week?

Eagles give up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. It's too soon to call him a main course. He's better than Brussels sprouts, though. I love Brussels sprouts. Yeah, but Adam was making fun of them a week or so ago. They're terrible. You just never had them done right. I'm sorry. Well, it's like fried pickles.

Pickles are awful, but fried pickles are fine. If you put enough unhealthy crap on a Brussels sprout, sure, it can be fine. You don't have to put unhealthy crap on it. What do you put on it? Butter? Air fry it. Put some balsamic on it. You're good.

Okay. That is the best way to do it. I think he's a good side. He's a good side-ish? Yeah, good side. Would you start DeAndre Hopkins or Rasheed Rice? Hopkins.

Rice. Okay. Las Vegas at Miami, starter sit Raheem Mustard. Must start. Yep. Really? Raheem Mustard.

How come? You have A-Chain coming back from extended absence, and it's not like he was completely dominating the workload before he left. Mostert was still a pretty significant part of it. Yeah. They're 12 point favorites at home against the Raiders defense that I know has played better the last two weeks, but that was the Jets and the Giants.

So I think most are still going to get his opportunities to touch the ball quite a bit. Yeah. This is, this is the, the 40 point outburst. Oh, okay. From the, not from Mostert, from going to get his opportunity to touch the ball quite a bit. Yeah, this is the 40-point outburst. Oh, okay. Not from Mostert, from the Dolphins.

Maybe from both. Maybe. All right, Arizona's at Houston. Is Devin Singletary a must-start if Damian Pierce is out? A running back has had 17 or more carries in every game against the Cardinals. A running back has 100 yards or a touchdown in all but one game against the Cardinals. Is Devin Singletary, a must start if Pierce is out? I wouldn't call him a must start, but he's a good low end number two running back.

I would view him. He'd be right behind Raheem Mostert, but in that RB 20 to 24 range. OK, so I have a comment here. This is Adam has the palate of a child. He probably orders chicken nuggies at every restaurant, but passes on the spicy mustard. I do have a very immature palate. I will give you that.

I'm the kind of guy, I order the same thing every time I go to a restaurant. If I find a restaurant, I know what I like, I just get it every time. It's still so crazy that you ordered rabbit paella. I had no other option. it was the only thing there and it should have been good right like why wouldn't rabbit be good that was not good though rabbit's good i would think rabbit would be good this place was not good and you know it was hot it was a little high end too that's why i thought all right maybe this would be good and it was not

good oh heath um adam asked us a question i guess in relation to something that dan said about street smarts and dave i think it was brought up the scenario of that you would know your way around a farm better than us yeah um your rabbit comment made me think of that yeah i that's we talked about this on the monday pre-game show and it just like who is the most street smart depends on where you are in the world. If we were in a, in a rural town of 10,000 or fewer people, I think I've probably got the edge. Um, New York city. It's probably, I don't know. It's probably you or Dan. It's me. Oh, no chance. There's no, there's no place on earth where it's you. I know New York city very well, much. Well, I know New York city much better than... I walked in New York City just a few days ago. I walked for six hours

in New York City to find Sbarro. See? If it were me, we would have had good pizza. That's one of the worst things that ever happened to you. Minnesota at Denver. Josh? Minnesota at Denver. Josh Dobbs

or Josh Allen this week? Oh, boy. I'm not there yet, but it's close. I think they're back to back in my rankings, to be honest with you. Yeah, I'll go with Josh Allen. I really hope that Joe Brady is the answer for Josh Allen. Like, something's got to change. I mean, yeah, it'd be funnier if things just got worse.

Well, he's playing the Jets, right? That asked he's facing oh yeah no he struggled against the jets he is also the number one quarterback in fantasy uh you know it's like it's funny it's like oh josh allen all these interceptions yeah he's is he per game no jalen hurts he's number two per game. Yeah, but anyway. Okay, moving on to... Dobbs does have a tough matchup. Looking forward to previewing that game. Tennessee at Jacksonville. Do you have more confidence in Derek Henry or Calvin Ridley this week? Henry.

Yeah, I figured you'd say that, but Henry doesn't do so great in games that they lose. So hopefully they can keep it close. This might be, just knowing how that position goes and his age, the last time that he plays in his hometown. Jacksonville's his hometown? Mm-hmm. That was the beginning of Derrick Henry's career resurgence,

Thursday night against Jacksonville. Pittsburgh at Cleveland. You all remember what I'm talking about, right? Mm-hmm. Pittsburgh at Cleveland. You all remember what I'm talking about, right? Pittsburgh at Cleveland. Sit all Browns? No. Who do you like? Jerome Ford.

Ford's a high-end RB2, and Najoku's still top 12 for me. He had, I think, eight of 37 passes that DTR has thrown in the NFL this year. I've gone to David Njoku. Okay. I'm nervous about their DST.

I'm not. You're nervous about the Browns' DST? Yeah. I know it was the Ravens last time, but they were on the field all game. The offense was so bad, it really hurt the defense. I see your nervous take, and I raise you Kenny Pickett. Yeah. Jets at Bills.

Starter sit James Cook. Sit. I've got him as a low-win number two running back. He's behind Montgomery, behind Singletary, but I would still start him ahead of the Steelers

or others like that. Okay. Well, I might as well do this now because these him ahead of the Steelers or others like that. Okay. Well, I might as well do this now. I don't, because these are two of the last two games we're talking about. Talk about James Cook versus Najee Harris. You know, I'm touchdown hunting here. James Cook has two touchdowns all year. Najee Harris is on a little bit of a touchdown run.

I feel like, I feel like they're going to be in position to score in this game. And he's got, I think, eight carries inside the 10-yard line in his last four games. So I don't like making the case for Najee Harris. It's one of my least favorite activities. But he's got like 16 targets in his last four games or something like that, and he's scoring touchdowns. So I think I would actually feel a little confident in him this week, start him over james cook i would start him over james cook as well but i don't like either one

to be honest with you yeah i i and i think you're just accounting for um dtr being definitely a lot worse than i am yes Yes, I am. Like I, I have a hard time. I don't know what it's that. Now. Last time I looked the over under on this game, was it 33 and a half 30 down to 33. Now I have a really hard time saying that any player playing in a game with

an over under of 33, especially when your team's the underdog is likely to score a touchdown. Well, if Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's not an underdog anymore, I don't think. Cleveland's back to a one-point favorite, yes. It went down to even, and now Cleveland's back to a one-point favorite. I'm not 100% sure that DTR is going to be worse than Kenny Pickett.

What's the total in the Bills game, though? It can't be much more. The Bills game is 40, so a full touchdown more. Interesting. Yeah, it's just that when the Steelers full touchdown more. Interesting. Yeah. It's just that when the Steelers score touchdowns, it's pretty much always Najee Harris. They have like six passing touchdowns this year. Yeah.

Something crazy. I think it is six. All right. Philadelphia, Kansas City, let's go to the games. Rankings disputes. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know I do these rankings disputes. I do these notes before the rankings get updated, but I believe Heath is lower on Devante Smith

and higher on Pacheco. I think you have Devante Smith around 21 or something, Jamie top 12. Pacheco, am I wrong about that? Where do you guys have Pacheco? Pacheco maybe around 15. And 24 for Jamie. Okay.

Oh, I see Pacheco at 10 for you in PPR. Yeah, just go with what I say. Okay, 15. All right, so let's start with Devontae Smith. Well, let's start within the rankings in a second. Start with a more general question. Who are the must-start players in this game? Jalen Hurts. A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, DeAndre Swift, Patrick Mahomes, and Travis Kelsey. Yeah, I would say, and especially in a

three-wide receiver league, all of those guys, and I'm just not going away from Pacheco. I think I am a little bit higher, but I'm not going to start a Devin Singletary or somebody of that range over Pacheco. Are you, Jamie? Like I said,

I'm not there yet with Singletary, but it's very, very close at this point again he's coming off two down games so you see the flaws when he does not score and is not heavily involved in the passing game which has happened the last two weeks two games excuse me and this is a great run defense like this it's it's brutal oh it's incredible i this this has to be the best run defense in football i mean it's they see the fewest running back carries per game. They allow the fewest fantasy points. 3.65 yards per carry.

No running back is more than 59 rushing yards. Only two running backs have scored a touchdown against the Eagles. However, maybe starting to be a little bit worse. The last three running backs to face the Eagles. Mostert, five yards per carry. Brian Robinson, 5.9 tony pollard 4.3 but none of them had more than 12 carries it's just teams just throw so another reason why the eagles give up so many points to wide receivers and quarterbacks can't run on them so all they do is throw so just some some context there but how you guys seem very confident in DeAndre Swift.

And I gave the stat earlier that the Chiefs are one of five teams that have allowed more than 15 fantasy points to only one running back in PPR this year. It's another team. They just don't see a lot of carries. And Swift hasn't really been that good lately. You said more than 15 fantasy points? Yeah, I think so.

I have five running backs projected for more than 15 fantasy points this week. Well, it's just a stat to indicate that it's very hard to have a big game against the Chiefs. Right. I just don't think there's very many running backs this week or moving forward that are going to have a lot of big games. All right. I also think it's kind of a, you know, I'm going to speak out of both sides of my mouth here, but I think Dallas Goddard's absence is good for Smith and good for Swift. Okay, fair.

All right, so do not really – Swift or Mostert? Swift. Swift. How about DeAndre Swift or the, I guess, struggling trio, if you want to throw Ken Walker in there as struggling, even though he had the touchdown catch last week. Barkley against the Commanders, Pollard against the Panthers, the dream matchup,

and Ken Walker against the Rams. Would you start Swift over them? Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. So I won't ask you any more Swift questions because you're obviously starting him. Heath, you want to talk about Devante smith you know outside the top 20 not far but a little bit um yeah i just think it's kind of that we talked about it earlier in the

week that aj brown 33 35 percent target share thing i'm probably not giving him enough of an adjustment in terms of target share for not having d Dallas Goddard there but it is a pretty bad matchup and I think if Jalen Hurts gets in trouble it's just going to be peppering A.J. Brown with targets because as good as the Chiefs defense has been they don't have anybody who's actually going to stop A.J. Brown be very interesting to see what they do with Legereus Sneed because he's a guy that they use to shadow do they do that with A.J. Brown can he cover A.J. Brown? Look, they have held, some of these names are better than others, Calvin Ridley, D.J. Moore,

Justin Jefferson, Keenan Allen, and Tyreek Hill to 62 or fewer yards. And of those five players, only D.J. Moore scored a touchdown and it was in garbage time. I'm blown away by how good this Chiefs defense is. It's terrific. You know.

All right. So you got Jamie and Heath about 10 to 12 spots apart in the rankings on Devontae Smith. Both of them have them as starters. I'm just looking at this. I want to see what happened in the Super Bowl. I know it's a little different from the perspective of the Chiefs defense playing better. And that was with Goddard. Jalen Hurts was throwing all day in that game.

38 pass attempts. Smith had seven for 100 on nine targets to lead the team. Brown had nine for 96, excuse me, six for 96 on eight targets. And Goddard was six for 60 on seven targets. So it would not be surprising if Smith has a little bit more of a boost as well. And are any interest,

is there a sleeper tight end for Philadelphia? I mean, Jack Stoll is the one that's going to get the most playing time, I would assume. So you got to be desperate. Is there a tight end to Alberto? I'm not sure. I have no idea.

I'm going to, oh, look, I was thinking he was the, he was going to be the second tight end now. And he did. He did play college at Missouri. It could be the going back to Missouri score a touchdown for Alvaro.

Unless he's not even on the roster. Mahomes is obviously a pretty mediocre quarterback, but we love his matchup. The Eagles give up the second most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Who do you have ranked higher, Mahomes or Hurts? Mahomes. I think I have Mahomes. They're back-to-back, like 5-6 or 6-7.

Yeah, Mahomes and Hurts. They're that low? Wow. Yeah, I have Mahomes won this week. I have a feeling he goes nuts. It does seem like the type of spot that he would. Yeah, I hope so. I hope everyone understands. Especially now that everybody knows he doesn't change his underwear. I hope so. It does seem like the type of spot that he would. Yeah, I hope so. I hope everyone understands that. Especially now that everybody knows he doesn't change his underwear. I'm joking about...

He plays once a week. Everyone wears the same pair of underwear once a week. He didn't say he didn't wash it, did he? It does look to me as though Alberto is the number two tight end for the Eagles. Okay. So there you go. And Rasheed Rice is about 30th for Jamie, about 40th for Heath. So we can do some Rishi Rice comparisons a little bit later.

But Rishi Rice or Tyler Boyd? Boyd. Rishi Rice or Jacoby Myers? Rice. I think that's one of the eight guys I've got in between the two. All right. Sit the Chiefs DST, but if you can stash them, I recommend it. Las Vegas is at Miami.

Stat of the game. Devontae Adams target share in three games with Aiden O'Connell. 34.2%. 29.2%. 52%. He had 13 targets in two of those three games. Didn't do great with them, but he did well enough. Are we done asking about starting Devontae Adams, at least for now?

Like, just an easy start? Yeah, I mean, look, he's clearly not going to live up to the draft capital you spent on him. But he's still going to be a number two wide receiver. So, you know, 14, 15 points is probably the ceiling at this point without a touchdown. If he scores, you'll be happy about that. But I think you just got to understand that this is who he is and we'll find out this week. You know, I mean, he, he, he did play well for where he's been in a tough matchup last week against the jets because he's getting that volume. And really look a lot of what he did last year

was because he got a lot of volume. So as long as this continues, it's going to be a relatively productive week-in, week-out situation for him. But you've seen the pitfalls, and it hasn't been pretty. Yeah, he's a low-end number two. I would start him over the Tyler Boyd. I'd start him over Deontay johnson um but i i could

see a situation where you're sitting devante adams like i've got two texans wide receivers ahead of him right now did you say devante smith i'm sorry which devante is one spot both it's devante then devante but i prefer smith over adams jeff sills in our chat asks Adams or Puka Nakua? Puka. Puka. Okay. Matt in our chat asks JSN or Jacoby Myers? JSN. I've got Myers higher.

Vedred says Heath is right. I have no idea what he's referring to. Adams or Jalen Waddle in this game? Waddle. I'm just trying to think of what I was right about. Yeah, Waddle in this game? Waddle. I'm just trying to think of what I was right about. Yeah, Waddle. And I think this will be an interesting game for the purposes of the Dolphins' defense. There's been a lot of talk about how healthy they're getting

and all the different guys. I'd like to see them come out and look like a great unit. Yeah, and also, you think about the last two games with Aiden O'Connell, you got Josh Jacobs getting about 26 carries in each game and O'Connell throwing about 26 passes in each game and, or whatever it was, it was 25 and 27 in the last two games and they beat the giants and they

beat the jets. So I mentioned that target share, because you could easily see a 35, 40 past 10 game here from an O'Connell. I think the dolphins are going to score a little bit more than the giants and the jets have the last two weeks. I don't think the Raiders are going to be able to control the clock and pound the football. So I saw more upside in Devante Adams because I see, I mean, potentially look, he had 13 targets, two straight games. So it's not, I don't know that he's going to get that many more, but I do think they're going to have to throw

more. With that said... This does go along with the theme of the Dolphins' season, though, in terms of opponents that they're facing. Now, this is in terms of win-loss, the best team that they will have played at home. But they beat the Broncos by 50 at home. Only get 20 points in that

game, but we know how some of that came at the end. 16 points to the Giants at home. and 17 points to the Patriots at home. 16 points to the Giants with a pick six. It's hard to believe that they've only played three home games so far. That is weird. And two has been a lot better in home games than road games. The whole team has, but again, look who they played. True.

All right. Sorry. So let's focus. Any hesitation on Josh Jacobs with, again, look who they played. True. All right. Sorry. So let's focus on any hesitation on Josh Jacobs with, again, probably not getting 26 carries. No, but I think you also go back to remember O'Connell's first start and it was either eight catches

or eight targets for Jacobs against the Chargers in week four. So that's certainly in his arsenal to throw to his running backs like that. So again, different coach, different coordinator, but we'll see. High-end RB2, you're starting. Jacoby Myers, take a seat. running backs like that. So again, different coach, different coordinator, but we'll see. High end RB two years. Um, Jacoby Myers,

take a seat. I mean, you take away the rushing touchdown that he has in one of the three starts with Aiden O'Connell and it's absolutely atrocious. I think it's six catches in those three games or seven catches, something like that. The targets have cratered. He just does not look for him at all. Just,

just outside of my top 36. Maybe should be lower. Six catches in three games with Aiden O'Connell. Alright, so on the other side of the ball, Miami went 2-1 with Devon Achan. Achan played four games, but one of them he had one or two touches. The other three games, the Achan games, they went 2-1. They won by 50 against the Broncos. They lost by 28 at Buffalo. And they won by 15 against the Broncos. They lost by 28 at Buffalo, and they won by 15 against the Giants.

Tua was good in two of those three games. He was great in one game. He was okay in one. He was bad in one. And then Mostert and A-Chan had about the same amount of touches in two of the three games. Tyreek Hill was Tyreek Hill.

Anyway, you guys love Tua. He's top five. Would you start C.J. Stroud or Tua this week? Tua. Tua. He's top five. Would you start CJ Stroud or Tua this week? Tua. Tua. All right. A-Chan over Mostert? If he's healthy, yep.

That's the plan. I think A-Chan's really one of the guys we're hoping to learn a lot about. He's obviously been incredibly awesome. I'd like to know, where's that actual yards per carry going to settle? It's not 12. It's probably not half of that. 11, probably 11. If it's 5

or 6, which seems right in the range where I'll project it, then it comes down to were the 8 to 11 carries that he saw in two of the three games what we should expect from HN, or the 18 carries we saw against the Broncos. Cause if it's eight to 11 with five yards per carry,

then he's probably more of a number two running back than a one. Right. And, uh, so I know you like Swift better than most or would you go Swift or a Chan? Okay. I've got Swift.

Then aN right now they're both must starts though this is a bad run defense for the Raiders so that's a good thing too yes they are but again coaching change

and they did just lock down Brees Hall everyone's locking down Brees Hall lately, but you are right. They did do that. They did not look very good against Saquon Barkley two weeks ago. That was Antonio Pierce being nice to his former team. I agree. Okay.

So what else? Okay, yeah. So who's a better flex, Waddle or Mostert? That's a good one.addle or Mostert? Let's go on. I'll say Mostert. A Waddle and full PPR, Mostert and the rest. All right. You guys are expecting a lot of points for the Dolphins.

Start your Dolphins and start Adams and Jacobs, and that's pretty much it. Are you not? No, I absolutely am. I don't know how it gets distributed, and Waddle's had such a weird year. Such a weird year. And I know Dave is a little bit worried about him.

I mean, Dave has him as like a number two, kind of a low-end number two wide receiver. He's been calling him a sell high because he's worried about A-chan coming back, the Dolphins running the ball more. And the thing about Waddle is you would go into the season saying, well, he doesn't really need that many targets because he's such a big play guy. He's not this year.

He's just not making those explosive plays. He's scoring some touchdowns, though. Also, keep in mind when you look at Waddell's game log, two of his last three games, he played about half the snaps. In the other one, he had 121 yards and a touchdown. I think things were trending up for him before the bye week.

All right. Any interest in Michael Mayer? No. Dolphins DST or the Browns DST or the Jets DST? How do you feel about the Dolphins DST with this matchup? I would start the Browns over the Dolphins. I probably would start the Bills over the Dolphins. I probably would start the Bills over the Dolphins as well, but I would prefer probably to roster the Dolphins

if I had to make a choice just because I think it's close for this week. And then you have the Bills with a bye coming up plus the Dolphins schedule is fantastic. Browns, Bills, Dolphins, Jets. So I'd rank those four. All four in my top 12. All right, we'll go to Arizona and Houston

after we go to a commercial break. Stick around. Much more coming here on Fantasy Football today. Can't wait for this game. Arizona at Houston. And yeah, Arizona's a two-win team, but they're 1-0 with Kyler Murray. I'm really excited.

I mean, I look excited anytime we get to see C.J. Stroud at this point. Houston, in their last two weeks, they've been a little leaky on defense. 37 points to the Bucs, 27 to Cincinnati. They're a very good red zone defense. I already gave you the stat of the game. A running back is 100 yards or a touchdown in all but one game against Arizona.

Hopefully we get some points in this one. Kyler Murray, when I checked yesterday, had not cracked your top 12. Is that just because it's such a good week? He's 12th for Dave, 13th for Jamie, 15th for Heath. Just a good week for quarterbacks? Couldn't get Kyler in the top 12? Yep. Yep. Think he'll score

20 points? Yep. Yeah, I mean, he should have had at least 22 last week. Alright, how are we feeling about James Connor compared to the Dolphins running backs? Behind them. As of right now, I have an HN Connor than most shirts.

De Mercado was limited, which really doesn't matter. But like I said on Wednesday, Connor, I'd like to see him get the passing downs roll back. He did not have a target. No running back at a target last week. I just kind of figured he'd be in every down

back like he was last year. They said. What's that? They said last week they were going to ease him in. Okay. That's something. He wasn't really in every down back before his injury, right? Di Mercato was still playing on third downs. Now they added the third down back.

And since he had, right, in Michael Carter, since he had five catches in week one, he's been very uninvolved in the passing game. So, it's just something to keep in mind here with Connor. I hope he doesn't become, like, touchdown dependent, basically. Yeah, for sure. But, Heath, you're still

confident in him this week. Yeah, I still view him. I think that the snap share last week was first game back. I think they actually played Rondale Moore kind of in some pass catching downs out of the backfield as well. That's partially responsible for Moore's increased target share.

I think that there is a... I'm a little bit concerned about the lack of targets, but it was first game back. I'm not factoring it in that much. And again, there's not like the guys I have right behind him are Tony Pollard and Brian Robinson and one of them is Brian Robinson and the other one's Tony

Pollard. The Connors has been very good as a rusher this year. All right. Without Denzel Perryman on the field, because the Texans actually are second best in the NFL in yards per carry allowed to running backs. But Perryman, they go in the NFL in yards per carry allowed to running backs. But Perryman, they go from 3.1 yards per carry allowed to running backs

with Perryman on the field, 3.7 without him on the field. They've already played three games without Perryman and they've been sort of hit or miss, inconsistent against the run. Wide receiver. So Heath, I'm very surprised by your Marquise Brown ranking. Very surprised.

I figured he'd be like wide receiver one and he's 30 something. Wide receiver one. I figured he'd be like 15. Yeah, he needs, he's going to be in the 20s. I'll move him up a little bit this morning, but I do still like, you can't completely ignore the fact that Rondale Moore and Trey McBride and Michael Wilson all had more targets than him last week. And Wilson's been really good this year on a per-target basis. So, I don't have him projected for quite the huge share of the targets that he had last year with Kyler Murray.

But, yeah, he'll go up a little bit. He's going to be in that 25 to 30-ish range, right where Dave and Jamie have got him. We know the Seahawks wide receivers are always a struggle. Would you start Marquise Brown over the Seahawks receivers? I would not. Not even over JSN, I assume.

Yes. But not the first two. No, I've got Lockett over DK. Jamie, how many Cardinals wide receivers would you start over Jacoby Myers? Just one. Okay. The thing that I like about Brown, though, is you mentioned the Texas defense got a little leaky lately.

They've struggled with number one receivers in their last four games. Three of those guys have had some big games. You got Chris Olave, Adam Thielen, and Jamar Chase. Now, obviously Marquise Brown, you could say is maybe in the middle of that or for the bottom. That's fine. Um, he's certainly not better than Chase, but three of those guys of those last four number one guys, 15 plus PPR points.

If Brown catches that touchdown that hits him in the hands, granted it was a diving catch, but catches that. I don't necessarily think, because Heath is right, in terms of the targets, we don't feel a lot much better about Marquise Brown. But you probably feel a lot better about Marquise Brown if he comes down with that squad. Yeah. All right. Trey McBride is an easy start.

CJ Stroud. What do you guys think? Arizona gives up the eighth most fantasy points to quarterbacks what's that no brainer at this point yeah but but like but it's tough it's going to be tough all year because people are going to have stroud and another good quarterback so um heath give me your thoughts on stroud i mean it's a week where we're talking about several guys kyler murray for me brock Purdy, Justin Fields, Joe Burrow, maybe what you can't quite get into the top 12. Well, one of the reasons you can't get them into the top 12

is because CJ Stroud's in the top 12. He's QB 10, and if we've got actual concerns about Keenan Allen, then he'll move ahead of Justin Herbert and be QB 9. And I think he's shown us he's got that top one upside on a weekly basis. This is a fantastic matchup. The hope here is that this turns into the game of the week.

This is the offensive shootout where Kyler and Stroud just both go bananas. Why don't you just leave the game of the week? I think I know what I'm doing here, Heath, with the game of the week. You've done a great job so far. I have a question for you, Heath, off topic.

Well, on topic, but different day because you won't be on the show tomorrow. Okay. I'm looking at your rankings. I love it when you do this. Okay. Would you... Well, they are your rankings.

I mean, I think I'm entitled. Yeah. Would you honestly start Sam Howell over Mahomes and Hertz? Yeah. Wow. Do you, by any chance,

actually have a league where you're going to make that decision? I do not. I do not, because when I draft Patrick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts, I don't draft other quarterbacks, and I picked up somebody to start last week,

but Sam Howell wasn't available. So I wouldn't put myself in that position okay okay uh although i do have a team with jalen hertz and russell wilson and geno smith because i feel a little bit like azer in that league i am curious uh just because i saw the the notes for our hq segment today um which is start sit dave has sam howell as a sit oh i think it's probably going to be they're going to win by 50 and run the ball 100 times, but they never do that.

I would assume that's the answer as well, but yes. We will talk to Dave about that tomorrow. All right, so would you start C.J. Stroud? I know you guys like two ahead of him. Mahomes, Hurts. Would you start Stroud or Lamar Jackson? Stroud.

I've got Jackson ahead right now. C.J. Stroud or Jared Goff? Stroud. Stroud. Okay. One more. CJ Stroud or Saquon Barkley, Superflex, PPR? Stroud.

Stroud. Yeah, no, that was stupid. CJ Stroud or I would start Stroud over every running back except Christian McCaffrey. I forgot it was two point for passing touchdown. I would start CJ Stroud over about ten running backs. Alright, I don't know what I was going for there.

We've got to talk about Devin Singletary here. You guys are ranking him as if Pierce is not going to play, which has been the case for two straight games. Singletary had a terrible game against Tampa Bay, but Tampa Bay is back as being a brutal matchup. And then he had a great game against Cincinnati. So now he gets the Cardinals who are also a great matchup, but you don't have them in your top 20.

So there's some hesitation there. Jamie, why? I'm going't have them in your top 20. So there's some hesitation there, Jamie. Why I'm going to move them up a couple of spots. Um, but, uh, look, it's, it's, they've been terrible. They've been absolutely terrible the entire season, you know? So there's only a third time that a running back's gone over 10 PPR points for them. Two of those were by Damian Pierce. The high was 14 prior to Singletary last week. He got 30 carries, which is fantastic. Is he going to get that again? Maybe so. 20 carries is probably realistic, as you've continued to note

time and time again against his Cardinals defense, so that's well within the range of possibilities. He doesn't get a lot of work in the passing game. They just haven't been throwing to their running backs very often. And if he doesn't score, you could be looking at an empty stat line. So I wouldn't necessarily say it's a slam dunk. You're starting him. So I think where Dave has him ranked is appropriate.

Inside the top 24 is fine, or Heath as well. Both guys have him ranked appropriately. Like I said, I'm probably a little bit too far behind. I think he's better than Sportsline, but I think Sportsline has, if you're looking at it on YouTube, Sportsline still has projections for Damian Pierce. So once they eliminate Pierce, he'll probably be

closer to, in the same range we all are. So yeah, I think he's a number two running back this week. And everyone's 21st 21st to 26 if you're not watching here heath 21st dave 23rd jamie 26th on on devin singletary uh i think you said earlier you'd heath you'd start james cook over devin singletary i would not singletary overcook okay Sorry about that. Steelers running backs? Devin Singletary? Singletary. Who do you like, Jamie?

Singletary. Devontae Adams or Devin Singletary? Let's say half PPR. Half Singletary. Really? Okay. How much would you move him down if Damian Pierce plays? 33 is probably appropriate.

He would be behind the Steelers, behind Gus, behind Ty Chandler. So right around 30, yeah. All right. And where are we here? We go to this Texans wide receiver. Texans are always a difficult team to preview, I think. But we're starting to get to the point where we're just starting their wide receivers. Tank Dell is top 12 in both formats.

Does that change? I dropped him in both spots just with the Nico return. Okay, that was my question, yeah. So he's still ahead of Nico? Yes. Yeah. Both top 20 for me. So let's say they all play.

Because right now I'm going to think Noel Brown's going to play because he didn't leave the game with an injury, right? So if they all play, all three of them play, Robert Woods may not play, I don't know, but if Brown, Nico, and Dell play, Heath, how do you see this working out? That's how I've got it ranked right now. So I would view Tank Dell in that 12 to 15, maybe 10 to 15 range at wide receiver. I'd view Nico in the 15 to 20 range at wide receiver. I'd put Noah Brown as a low in number three. They all have pretty low floors, but they all have top five wide receiver

for the week upside. Yeah, and I think Arizona, this plays very well into the hands of CJ Stroud because he's been lethal down the field lately. And Arizona gives up the third most completions of 20 or more air yards. So if Nico doesn't play, it seems like like he will that would really help Noah Brown he ran very deep routes played outside if he's in the slot it might not be the same trying to check his route

depth when he's in the slot um yeah no he still he still runs pretty deep routes actually so that's a good setup for him for Noah Brown um All right. So we like these guys and we like the Houston passing game. Big, big points in this game. Sit the Houston tight ends and let's go to Minnesota at. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Sit the Houston tight ends. What am I missing?

Why would you sit on Schultz? I don't know. I do not know. I think I don't have any idea why I said that. I think you should sit the other Houston Titans, though. Yeah, Schultz is a must-start guy. I just completely whiffed on that. I have no idea.

Where do you have Dalton Schultz? Can you play the I don't know anything about anything? I think I can. If you give me a second. I mean, you know what I am right now? Those chips have rotted your brain. Loser. That's me.

And I don't know if I have the other clip. I can tell anything about anything. There we go. I'm sorry. Schultz is top 10. So he's top 10. So Dalton, Kincaid and McBride over Schultz, I'm sure, right? Yep.

All right. Let's spend about five minutes on Dal over Schultz, I'm sure, right? Yep. All right. Let's spend about five minutes on Dalton Schultz. I think he deserves it. Evan Ingram or Dalton Schultz? Schultz. Schultz. If Justin Jefferson plays, would you start Schultz or Hawkinson?

Hawkinson. Hawkinson. Komet or Schultz? I mean, you're really dragging this out. Schultz. All right. All right. Minnesota's at Denver. I think I mean, you're really dragging this out. Schultz. All right. All right, Minnesota's at Denver.

I think I was just so excited to talk about Josh Dobbs. We even have a graphic on Dalton Schultz at everything. The Broncos are two-and-a-half point favorites in this game against Minnesota. Total's 42-and-a-half. And Russell Wilson, here's your stat of the game. Russell Wilson has the highest touchdown rate in the NFL. Denver has one rushing touchdown this year. They have the third fewest carries inside the five-yard line.

They have the fifth most pass attempts inside the five-yard line and the fourth most passing touchdowns from that distance. Russell Wilson has thrown for less than 200 yards in five straight games. And yet, you know know he's startable so um all of that he you know i think you would find interesting right i mean it's just so it feels so fluky but he's getting it done yeah i mean it's it's kind of fluky in both directions he also has five straight games with at least 20 yards rushing and he's over 30 in four of those. He's got like 35 rush attempts on the season, averaging 25 yards a game and zero rushing touchdowns.

You mentioned just one for the entire team. Yeah. So he leads the league in touchdown rate at 6.9%. His career rate's 5.9%, but he's been in this 6% range a lot of times. I don't necessarily think the touchdowns are going to come down that much. I think he's just a low-end QB1 or high-end QB2. I think what would hurt him is if they started handing off the goal line

instead of these short yardage touchdowns. I just don't know why we would expect them to do that. I think he probably has a little bit of the ability to call his own number, and he's always had a high touchdown rate. He's just not the same guy that he used to be. I can't really look at his Seattle touchdown rate. He's got one guy catching touchdowns, and it's Sutton every week, basically. He's not the same guy.

He's morphing into a different guy. Sean Payton's trying to get him as close to Drew Brees as he can. A 6.8 intended air yards per pass attempt is the lowest since we've been measuring that for Russell Wilson. But also, the 68% completion percentage is three marks better than his career norm. He's just throwing a lot of short passes. Wilson or Kyler? Kyler. Wilson for me.

Dobbs ahead of both of them? Yes. Dobbs is the story of fantasy football right now. Three straight games with 27 or more points, something like that, 26.9 or more points against Baltimore, Atlanta, and New Orleans with two different teams. One of those, he was on the Cardinals.

It's crazy. And then you got the Broncos, who were bad on paper, but in their last five games, no quarterback has scored more than 20 points, and that includes Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes twice. So can Josh Dobbs do it again, Jamie? I don't know if he'll do that again, but I think he'll be over 20 points again.

I know the Broncos' defense seems like it's magically fixed, and granted it was a great game against Josh Allen last week, but a lot of the quarterback play that they faced during this recent stretch has been a little bit up and down, and that's factoring in Mahomes too. Just because Mahomes, I think, with the flu of that game, and we know he hasn't had the huge statistical season that we're used to seeing from Mahomes, he still been very good so give them credit give the broncos credit deep for their for the defense production i just think the way that this guy's playing right

now with his legs it's hard to say that he's going to have a bad game because it gives him a good floor you know he's got a rushing touchdown in four straight games it's i think it's seven times this year he's been over 40 rushing yards so So his legs have sort of been the out. And so if he's throwing with a little bit more success, as we've seen from one game to the next with the Vikings, then you just got to feel comfortable with him still, for me, as a top-ten quarterback. And then you got the potential of maybe Justin Jefferson coming back. It's going to be very tricky because he may be a late active

if we don't find anything out it's sunny night game you know so just keep that in mind with Jefferson but still uh with what Hawkins has done with him with uh I still think what Addison will do um they're getting KJ Osborne back so he'll play with Osborne for the first time um could be uh could be a you know fun game between these two teams the the the legs are the key to everything Only Lamar Jackson has more rushing yards amongst quarterbacks than Joshua Dobbs this season. And Dobbs is like 120 yards behind him, but 50 yards better than anybody else.

His last four games, 10.4, 12.6, 8.6, 10.3, those are the fantasy points he scored running the ball. If you're giving us between 8 and 10 fantasy points a game running, you don't have to do very much as a passer. It's like Justin Fields when he got hot last year. How would you rank Purdy, Dobbs, Fields this week? Dobbs, Purdy, Fields. Dobbs, Purdy, Fields.

Talk to me about Ty Chandler. Compare her to Devin Singletary. Singletary has a higher ceiling. Yeah, and I think a higher floor. Chandler's a flex for me. There's hope. I added him in a lot of places, and I was really upset when i missed him in

a couple places i needed him but this hasn't been a good run like it's almost been as bad as the texans in terms of just run attacks yeah uh 72 percent roster ty chandler and but they also just made you know i know we said oh they're getting better they're getting better the bills which is not a very good running team ran ran right through them last week. Their run defense still is struggling. It was better before last week, I guess, but not good. So this is their vulnerability. Their pass defense has gotten a lot better.

All right, sit the Minnesota wide receivers. We don't need to talk about them. Just kidding. That was a Dalton Schultz joke. What's the scenario, Jefferson in, That was, that was a Dalton Schultz joke. So what's the, what's the scenario Jefferson in Jefferson out, Jamie, how it relates to both Jefferson and Addison.

You tell me Friday night we get, or Saturday night, you know, we get the insider reports that Jefferson is in. He's in my lineup. I'm not sitting Justin Jefferson, you know, so they feel he's ready to play even with the quarterback change. He's a,

he's a most dark guy. Um, wow. Heath, I'm surprised you're so high on Addison. That's encouraging. I think he's still a number three receiver. Again, this Broncos pass defense has played much better. I do think he's going to be touchdown or bust, and I don't know if that's necessarily the strength of Josh Dobbs right now

is forcing the ball to him. So I need to see a little bit more from him with Dobbs to say fully back to must-start category. And then Jefferson returns. That's probably not going to happen. So number three receiver for me. Yeah, I'll probably drop him down to like 15. So number two receiver for me without Jefferson

and not starting him if Jefferson's back. Massive difference if Jefferson comes back. Start Hawkinson. Wilson is startable. Javante. I guess, what's to say about Javante? Well, Heath, you seem a little, are you low on him? 21, is that right?

He's 20th. Yeah, he's a number two running back for me this week. All right, let's look at the running back rankings here. So that struggling trio, Pollard, Barkley, and Walker, or Javante Williams, who do you like? I would start those guys over Javante.

Javante for me. You're just a little hesitant because the run defense has been so good for Minnesota? Right. Yeah. Jamie, you're more optimistic. Yeah, again, I think part of this

is the work in the passing game. And he's been fairly consistent the last three games with his role. I think it's three straight games with three catches. And that's kind of been what it's taken to have success against Minnesota. We saw last week, for example, with Alvin Kamara. Not that I'm comparing Devontae's pass catcher to Kamara, but we've noted this, that Sean Payton's offense is leaning on its running backs in the passing game.

And he's not necessarily relying on Williams to be just a third down guy. They're throwing to him on early downs. And so he's dominating work with it's eight, three straight games with 18 plus touches, two straight games with over 25, I believe. And so 60, 70 rushing yards, you know, 20, 30 passing yards, chance to score, chance to score through the air more at this point. But I still think he has a chance to score. And so I think just given the week and what the running back pool looks like, his touches are hard to overlook, despite the fact that the matchup, I think, is still somewhat daunting. Yeah, and actually really good in the passing game against running backs, too.

They've held Rashad White, DeAndre Swift, Aaron Jones, and Bijan Robinson to 17 or fewer yards. We did see Kamara Head with seven catches for 33 yards last week. All right, so it's interesting. It's a tough matchup, but he's getting a lot of work. He's catching touchdowns. Cortland Sutton or Jordan Addison? Sutton for me. Addison if no Jefferson.

Sutton if Jefferson's back. Sutton or Rasheed Rice? Sutton Jefferson Sutton if Jefferson's back Sutton or is she rice Sutton Sutton Sutton or DK Metcalf um Metcalf I think I have DK just ahead of Sutton all right can I sit the Denver Titans I take that back Sutton over DK Ben yes you can sit the Denver Titans ends. Take that back. Sutton over DK. Ben, yes, you can sit the Denver tight ends. Excellent. Tennessee's at Jacksonville.

Do you believe in miracles? Evan Ingram does not have a touchdown this season. Tennessee has not allowed a touchdown to a tight end this season. Three touchdown game for Evan Ingram. Guess he's probably started Trevor Lawrence then. No. Rush to rushing. He's done that before.

Yeah. I don't know. I just thought that was funny. That kind of stood out to me with Ingram. Still the same like 11 PPR fantasy point guy, Ingram? Sort of. I would take the under. I would try to set him if you can.

All right. How do you feel about Derek Henry? He has 22 or more carries in their three wins. He has 15 or fewer carries in five of their six losses. This is actually a fairly good run defense here for Jacksonville. You've got some catches from Henry, but how do we feel about him this week? I'm starting him.

Number two running back. It's not with a ton of confidence, but again, I go back to he's done well in this spot they always play them tough the titans and the jaguars titans always play jaguars tough and so i i think they have an opportunity to continue to sort of play spoiler here in trying to uh ruin you know jacksonville's easy run to the division title, which it looked like two weeks ago. Now you've got the Colts and the Texans in the way. And so this could be, again, his last game playing close to his hometown.

I don't think he's from Jacksonville, but near the area. So I still think Henry has a decent performance here because I do think the game is close. All right, let's simplify this game as we're running very late here. Start ETN, sit Lawrence. Henry's the number two running back. Ridley, Kirk is a must start, right? Yep.

Calvin Ridley is what? Number three receiver. Yeah, yeah. And kind of like I'd rather start DeAndre Hopkins than Calvin Ridley. Oh, wow. I would start Ridley over Hopkins just based on the matchup, but I can't really give you this this reason over that reason it is a pretty good matchup tennessee's 26th against wide receivers oh ridley oh why sit levis ingram is startable

jamie would like to avoid him but you guys don't have him ranked too dissimilarly. Henry, you talked about Hopkins. Yeah, number three wide receiver. And Sid Okonkwo. How do you feel about the Jaguars' DST? Top 12. That sounds right. I might have them like 13 or 14, but they're startable. All right, Pittsburgh's at Cleveland.

These two teams, very strange. These two teams, they give up a lot of yards per catch. Pittsburgh, most yards per catch in the NFL. Cleveland, this might surprise you, sixth most. But they give up very few completions. Fewest completions allowed is Cleveland. Pittsburgh is eighth fewest completions allowed. And they have the two lowest catch rates allowed.

So that's strange. Anyway, when you look at the running backs in this game, would you start any of them over Derek Henry? I'm not there with Ford, but they're close. Yeah, I prefer Henry to Ford, but Ford's definitely the closest.

Henry Ford. Would you start... Ford is better than Najee? You Ford is better than Najee? You like him better than Najee? Yes. And Warren. All right, so... I am nervous about Jerome Ford now. I just...

I'm very nervous about the Browns offense. I just don't... I don't think PJ Walker's good enough to say that anybody's going to be necessarily a huge downgrade from him. And if it is a terrible start to the game, they can always go to PJ Walker. Why am I downgrading from Deshaun Watson,

not from PJ Walker? Well, Deshaun Watson's played like half the games this year. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I know Ford had a really good... I like Ford. And Watson hasn't been a good quarterback. He's been bad.

He's going to be a lot better than DTR. I mean, look, to look at both sides of it for Ford, he's been very consistent for the most part in terms of his fantasy production and sort of the way he's been getting it done. The other side of it, though, is he's losing touchdowns at Kareem Hunt. So you have to factor that in also. Wyatt Teller is banged up. The other side of it, though, is he's losing touchdowns to Kareem Hunt, so you have to factor that in also.

Wyatt Teller is banged up. You mentioned that on top of losing their two tackles for the season. So we could have an offensive line issue here on top of that. And I'll go back. Last week, Adam, I know you were very high on Aaron Jones, and we saw him struggle. I know he still had four catches, but he didn't have a good game run in the ball. So I know for me, I was thinking the Steelers run defense getting back to, you know, being Steelers run defense.

They are now down two linebackers though. Yeah. You lose, you lose Holcomb and now they just lost Quan Alexander. So they're getting thin at that spot. And maybe if it's Patrick still not back, he's a big piece of the run defense too. So I think just how the Browns will operate is they'll still go through these two guys. And that's the concern for Cooper. It's a boost for how they'll use Ford and Hunt.

And so for the way I view it, I think Ford's the number two running back. I think Hunt's got a score, but he's got, what, six touchdowns in the last four games. So it's not like he hasn't done that. And so you can say Ford number two running back and Hunt still flex. Yeah. And looking at, and I don't want to make too much out of 36 or 37 passes, but 16% of DTR's passes did go to

Jerome Ford earlier this year. That was tied with Amari Cooper for the second most behind Amari Cooper, behind David Njoku. So this is a lot of times we think of rookie running quarterback and he's not going to throw to his running backs. I wouldn't I think he'll dump it off.

Okay. And remember they, they, despite the fact that they just lost their starting quarterback ticket for what it's worth, that Deshaun Watson is what it is. They're still favorites at home here, you know?

So that leads to low scoring game. It's my best bet. Best bet. No, nevermind. I'm not going down that road, but you're talking about Kenny Pickett on the road against the best defense in football.

I don't know why you like think the Steelers should in football. I don't know why you think the Steelers should be favored. I still think the Steelers won the game too. A lot of people think they should be favored. It's a one-point spread. Don't act like I'm freaking crazy here. You said it was like a... The Steelers are probably the most fraudulent 6-3 team we've ever seen. I think they're better than the Browns

with Dorian Thompson-Robinson. I do not. I agree with you. I think they're a better team. It's not like the Steelers don't have a good defense, too. It's not like they're just rolling in here with, you know, chumps.

They have a pretty good defense also. I got asked this question for one of our social posts. Who would you take as a franchise player? TJ Watt or Miles Garrett? Oh, Garrett. They're basically the same player, but...

You can't lose. I feel like Watt's been hurt more, so... But, yeah. They're a year apart, age-wise. Now, then the younger one. Who's younger, Garrett? Garrett. Yeah.

All right, we talked about Najee and Warren a little bit earlier. How about would you start Najee Harris or Deontay Johnson? Deontay. Deontay and PPR, Najee, everyone else. Okay. Do you like Deontay this week? I think he bounces back, yeah.

Borderline number two. He's in that 24 to 28 range I don't think they're going to have success running the ball this week like they were great last week and this week I think they're going to struggle so he's going to get more than four targets he's typically been good all season in the five games that he played but when he's gotten six targets so and sit George yeah sit George Pickens. Do both these teams wish they still had Joshua Dubbs? Yes. Alright,

any interest in Friar Muth if he plays? Not really. I want to roster him, but we need to see it first. Sit Cooper if you can. Njoku or Ingram? Ingram. Ingram. Ingram.

The Steelers are great against tight ends. They really are. Njoku or Logan Thomas? Thomas for me. Njoku. And the Jets are at the Bills. That of the game. The Jets have allowed one touchdown to a wide receiver this year.

It was Stefan Diggs in week one. They have not allowed a touchdown to a wide receiver this year. It was Stefan Diggs in week one. They have not allowed a touchdown to a wide receiver since then. So we can keep this game simple. Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson are must starts. Yep. Yep. Josh Allen still feel good about? Yep.

Yep. James Cook number two running back. Nope. Number three. Number two for Heath? Nope. Number three. Number two for Heath. Yep. Gabe, Gabe Davis. Let's see if the eight balls right again.

Starter sick. Gabe Davis. I start Gabe Davis. Unlikely. The eight ball has been crushing it with Gabe Davis. He has horrible history against the jets. They never allow big pass plays. You guys agree,

right? Sick. Gabe Davis. I'd like to know that he has in his last five games. 200 yards, 200 and something yards receiving 240, 240 yards receiving his last five. One of those games in the last five was 100 yard day. Yeah, he's got like fewer than 30 yards in four of his last five games or something. It's that's crazy. It's terrible. He has single digit PPR fantasy points in four of his last five games.

So that's Gabe Davis. And I think the toughest call here, Kincaid, is not a tough call. The toughest call might be Tyler Conklin. How do you guys feel about him? He's been very involved in Zach Wilson is throwing the ball a lot, and he's averaging about 250 passing yards per game in his last three, which really isn't bad. How do you feel about Conklin this week? Any interest there? Great bye-week replacement. Better in PPR than non-PPR,

obviously. Like you said, the last two weeks he's been good, and we've seen the Jets' defense struggle basically since Milano went down against tight ends. I think it's not a bad matchupup he's a high end number two I even without Milano I'm not sure it's as good a matchup as the Chargers and the Raiders I think it's four of the last six games for Tyler Conklin he has like 50 or more yards let's see he has nine four of the last six yeah four of the last six he has 9.8 or more P. Let's see. He has 9. Four of the last six. Yeah, four of the last six.

He has 9.8 or more PPR fantasy points. He has 58 or more yards in four of the last six games. The other two games were terrible, though. Combined, 24 yards. So there's always that downside with a Jets receiver that's not Garrett Wilson. And if they get in the red zone, like 70% of their passes go to Garrett Wilson.

So I don't know that his touchdown lots are very good. I think 70% go to Wilson and 30% go to Robert Spillane or some other defender. So you guys like the Bills DST better than the Jets. I would say that Bills have been a pretty crappy DST this year, but I get the appeal. So yeah. All right. The Jets have really come through actually, even in some bad matches.

They've been hit or miss. It's not an easy call. But you guys like the Bills ahead of the Jets. That's it for today's show. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you tonight on our live stream at 7.30 p.m. Eastern. I'm going to go eat some chips. And see you then.