Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC)! Taysom, Russ, DK, Vikings RBs Update and More (12/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

We'll kick it off with our thoughts on the Vikings RBs heading into tonight's game. Later in the show we find out more about Dalvin Cook and update our analysis. We'll also give you the players we love (6:00) and the players to avoid (11:30) in Week 14. Start Taysom Hill. Sit Chuba Hubbard ... News and notes (15:00) with updates on the Chargers passing game and "One Question for Each Game" (23:30) as we take a quick look at today's slate. Is it D.K. Metcalf Week!? Are we confident about anyone in the Jaguars-Titans game? How are we approaching the Broncos RBs? ... Start or Sit for Raiders-Chiefs (31:40), Jaguars-Titans (41:30), Ravens-Browns (48:40), 49ers-Bengals (55:50), Lions-Broncos (1:02:30), Seahawks-Texans (1:11:30), Saints-Jets (1:18:00) ... Email us [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. It's Dalvin Cook coming back just in time to get you into or keep you out of the fantasy playoffs. Football starts tonight. It is the final week of the regular season in many of your leagues. I am fired up. I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Heath Cummings.

We're going to talk about Taysom Hill and those Saints at the New York Jets. We're going to talk about seven AFC home games today. Also, we'll give you the news and notes and talk to you about Justin Herbert. If you have Ben Roethlisberger, do you have to start him over Justin Herbert tonight? You guys want to answer that question? Go ahead. Roethlisberger

or Herbert? Herbert. Herbert. What if they're both out? What if Williams is out too? I'm going to trust Brandon Staley and say that he still has a shot to play. And so I would wait it out. I mean, Keenan Allen also hasn't been ruled out yet. So I think if you're looking at it

and those are the only two quarterbacks and you want to play it safe and go Roethlisberger, it's fine. But can you find somebody that's maybe on par with Roethlisberger like a Tannehill or Heineke? Yep, those type of guys. Okay. Well, that's a topic for discussion

in just a little bit. We got to start with the Dalvin Cook news, by the way. The seven games we're looking at today. Raiders at Chiefs. What kind of Chiefs offense are we getting this week? Jacksonville at Tennessee. Baltimore at Cleveland. San Francisco, Cincinnati.

Detroit, Denver. Seattle, Houston. And New Orleans at the Jets. All right, so the big news for tonight. Dalvin Cook might play. He wants to play. He's been getting first-team reps. Heath, if he plays, do you expect the usual 20-plus touch workload?

I don't. We don't. But again, and I just put this on Twitter, we're just guessing at this point. Hopefully there's some sort of report. I'd love to see a Schefter or Rappaport or Glazer report 30 minutes before the game saying he will be on a pitch count he's getting a full workload as of right now i'm projecting a pretty even split in the running game i wonder if they try to keep him out of the messy stuff in between the tackles and just

use him on the perimeter kind of like the cowboys do tony pollard maybe more in the passing game a little bit um i'm i'm projecting cook as a number two running back and Alexander Madison as a high-end flex. But it's really low certainty right now. I hate this. This is such an up yours to the fantasy community. No, it's not.

It has nothing to do with that. Well, I'm not saying it's intentional. I'm just saying it stinks for us. It stinks, right? I mean, you can't. Jamie, what do you think? Can you start either one of them with confidence if Cook plays tonight? You know, we have basically two examples of this scenario. Not exactly, but similar.

You know, the Packers situation two weeks ago when Aaron Jones came back sooner than we thought. And A.J. Dillon was the better of the two because he was the fresher, healthier of the two. And then you had last week where Daryl Henderson played despite not expecting to go and didn't touch the ball. And so, you know, those two scenarios don't favor Dalvin Cook. But, you know, if he's trying to play, I think you got to trust that he's the better of the two guys if that's how the Vikings are going to approach it.

I will say this, just to kind of piggyback on what Heath said. The guy you want to follow is Tom Pelissaro. He used to cover the Vikings, so he's probably going to have the most and best detailed information. Rappaport will probably retweet it if you don't want to follow somebody else. But Pellisaro is usually the best in Vikings news. I hope you're right, Heath. I hope we get some indication of something one way or the other. Because it does feel like it's going to get kind of gross. The only thing is that they usually just lean on one guy.

I mean, that's their MO. It's not like they use multiple backs. And maybe they will tonight. And it'll stink even more. So I'm with you, Adam. I don't like this. And I also tonight, and it'll stink even more. I'm with you, Adam. I don't like this. I also don't like it for Dalvin Cook. You have 11 days to get him 100%. He's going to play with a

harness on, according to the report. Why? Why would you risk him? He gets hurt. He's done for the season, potentially. Why? I don't get it. They can lose on a last-second field goal with or without Dalvin Cook. They don't need him. That's what it is, though, it's desperation, right?

Probably. But it's stupid desperation, though, because the guy that's the replacement has been just as good. He has been for fantasy. I don't think, like, an Alexander Madison carry has been worth about 80% of a Dalvin Cook carry this year. Okay, but a Dalvin Cook with one shoulder wrapped in a harness is probably not going to be as good as what an Alexander Madison carry is right now.

I don't know. It's all guess. Like you said, we're just guessing. Yeah, I feel like Madison's been damn good in the three games per carry. I'm thinking, no? I mean, in the three games that he's gotten the run without Dalvin Cook. I do not know his yards per carry, but I don't believe that's true. I believe that's true.

Check it out. Look, you tell me. All right, let's go to players that we love. Jamie, the star of the week, is a guy, a quarterback with a bad finger, but he doesn't need it because he's got two legs and he's going to run all over the Jets. So, Taysom Hill, start of the week. Woo!

You said it all. Yeah. Sorry. Here's my full analysis, Jamie. No, go ahead. Cut down on half the interceptions, and you're a top five quarterback based on what he did last week. It's a small sample size.

I know he hates the small sample sizes but you know it's all we have and so five starts over the last two years 23 or more fantasy points in uh four of them and so you're just hoping that that continues uh the rushing prowess is is clearly there uh the matchup is great six of the last eight quarterbacks against the jets including the great gardner minchu 22 or more fantasy points and so you know i i my the only two concerns i have is does he take a shot on the finger and he's, you know, out of the game and does Alvin Kamara completely ruin him? If they're just going to go with this run heavy approach with him being the

catalyst of the attack, but it's just so hard to get away from what Taysom Hill's upside is. The fact that he practiced in full should make you feel comfortable enough that he's going to be good to go. And again, if, if he's anything North of 50 yards rushing, which is probably something that you can expect, which I never like to say for a quarterback, but he's the rare exception, he's going to be fantastic.

And there's a floor as well. The Jets have allowed 19 or more fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues to nine straight quarterbacks. Now, obviously, you want more than 19, but if I took nine straight quarterbacks, including Terod Taylor, including Gardner Minshew last week, that's a pretty nice floor for a quarterback. 19 points, six points per pass in touchdown leagues.

Heath, who's one of the players you love this week? Can I still love Elijah Moore if I have him ranked in the top 12 this week? Is he playing? What's that? Is he playing? He did sit out on Wednesday I don't generally worry too much about Wednesday practice but if he said that on Thursday then we'll have to really get get concerned about it um but the number two wide receiver over the last five weeks

and the Saints defense just does not scare me at all okay Elijah Moore start him up people are going to ask a lot about Lattimore who by the, is not really rated very highly by PFF this year. And I think he's getting worse every year in terms of PFF. And they're not, you know, everything, but they're good. So people are going to ask about that. Not a concern for you? I don't think he's the type of wide receiver that Lattimore generally has success against.

So, no, I'm not worried about that. And they move him around so much, I don't think Lattimore is falling on the end of the slot. Now, we love start-sit start sit you can play the start sit challenge at cbssports.com start sit and each week answer 10 starter sit questions to win a customized trophy smack championship belt with your name in gray very cool and the overall winner for the season wins a thousand dollars and a guest appearance on the podcast. One question this week is, Lamb, Lockett, or Hollywood Brown in half PPR?

What would you guys do? Oh, that's an easy one for me. Lamb, Lockett, or Hollywood Brown, half PPR. What do you got? I mean, if this is not a slam dunk answer, the result might be different, but the answer should be the same. It should be CeeDee Lamb. Yeah, you should start CeeDee Lamb

and I understand it's going to be very nerve-wracking to have Tyler Lockett on your bench. It's nerve-wracking to have Tyler Lockett in your lineup. But yeah, you should start Lamb. He doesn't follow a question because Adam's not a good host. If there is no Elijah Moore, do you love Jameson Crowder?

I do not, but I would like him a little. Saints give up the fifth most receiving yards to slot receivers. If Jamie were a better analyst, he would have known that, I think. No, I do know that, but I was thinking about you because you did this to me once upon a time.

I don't remember, but I'm sure I've done a lot. The 2021 Spotify Wrapped is out. I've seen up to, I think i think 12 000 minutes streaming of our podcast which is insane you must hate me if you've listened to me that much man uh but please let us know send us a tweet or an email let us know how many minutes you spent streaming fantasy football today in 2021 there have been a few have been been around 10,000. I believe 12,000 was the most. So, yeah, step it up.

Let's see what you got. How can anybody hate you? Oh, man, just ask my high school. So, yeah, I've got a lot of enemies. I'm sorry, they won't return my calls when I say it's about you. Exactly. My high school has a Hall of Fame.

And you could nominate me, by the way. That would be fun. My high school has a Hall of Fame. I'm not in me, by the way. That would be fun. My high school has a Hall of Fame. I'm not in it. Are you in yours? Yeah. Is your Hall of Fame athletic-related? No.

Hall of Fame in general. Like life achievements. I think Adam's accomplished enough. He's an award-winning podcast host. I feel like Josh Gad needs to be in our Hall of Fame. I don't know if he is, but that guy deserves it. He went to your high school, right? Yeah. He is my

aunt by marriage, her cousin. No kidding? Yeah. Oh, wow. I sat next to him at a wedding. Look at how much we have in common, JB. Did anyone even know? In your school Hall of Fame?

Yeah. Jamie, what'd you say? Not that famous, really. Did Josh Gad know who you were? Yeah, we have mutual friends. I'm basically famous via Josh Gad. All right, players to avoid. Who knows me more, my cousin or Josh Gad?

Josh Gad. Yeah, because he and I share a mutual best friend, and we hung out at wedding weekend a few years ago. All right, players to avoid. He asked me a fantasy football question. I'm just saying I'm kind of famous. Players to avoid. Jamie, who are we sitting?

I would like to sit Joe Burrow. He's not been a good fantasy quarterback lately. And you have the finger injury. You have offensive line concerns. You have a defense that should be healthier against him. But it's really more about just the state of the Bengals and the state of Joe Burrow right now. So I'm concerned.

So if you can avoid him, avoid him. Let's get Heath into his high school Hall of Fame. What do you think? Heath, give us the information. We'll call up. So who's the most successful alum from your school, Heath? I'm trying to. I'm actually looking through the Hall of Fame right now.

There were some people from a long time ago that did some famous things. There was Brutus Hamilton, I believe, was in the Olympics. But literally, I do not think there's anyone you guys have ever heard of their name on the list. Angelica Bridges, who was in Baywatch. She's not in the Hall of Fame, but that's a pretty good accomplishment.

That's great. Was she there when you were there? Was she there when you were there? No that? Was she there when you were there? No, she was like four or five years older than me, I think. Gotcha. So I'll tell you the most famous, probably now, it's probably Josh Gad, but Mike White, Jets quarterback Mike White, went to my high school. So put him in the Hall of Fame.

All right, back to the- Who was better at school, him or you? I was a backup goalie. He was a starting quarterback, so probably me, but more because I was a good locker room guy. Heath, who are you sitting this week? Jamie says avoid Joe Burrow. What about you?

I agree 100% on Joe Burrow. That was actually the name I was going to say. So I'll say Chuba Hubbard. I'm really concerned that he's going to not get the passing game work and he's not going to get the goal line work and that being the between-the-20s running back for the Panthers is not a very good gig. So I would really like to not start Chuba Hubbard.

Starting him in two leagues, Heath can't wait. And not happy about it. But how about Chuba hubbard or vikings running back if dalvin cook plays definitely cook um i might start madison too all right all right here we go get the giggles out i i understand but listen this is an important subject no one's perfect even the best baseball players strike out with the bases loaded the best golfers sometimes they three putt with the tournament on the line. If you feel like you come up short in the bedroom sometimes, it's perfectly okay. But if it's bothering you,

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All right, Heath, let's talk about the Chargers passing game. Keenan Allen's on the COVID list. Mike Williams joins him. Mike Williams is just a close contact. So what are you thinking right now? Who should we add? Should we prepare to sit Justin Herbert? Your thoughts?

If there's no Williams and there's no Herbert, and there's no Allen, then I think sitting Herbert is a possibility, but not a must. He would be in the high-end QB2 range. But I think there's a – listen, we don't never know with these situations, but Keenan Allen tested positive really early in the week, and Mike Williams is just a close contact.

So I don't think that we should fully rule those guys out either. If they're both out, Jalen Guyton would be my favorite Chargers wide receiver, but he and Josh Palmer would both be borderline number three options. And Jamie, if one of them is out, and I think at this point, Allen more likely to be out than Williams. Let's say Williams is in. Does Guyton crack your top 36? Yes. Yeah.

I mean, you know, just opportunity. And, you know, the matchup i think is good enough uh the type of defense that the uh the chargers play i think the giants play is favorable for for justin herbert um and the coverage that they'll throw at him and so you know it's always a matter with them of what they're going to do early in the game you know we we see that a lot of it is they try to establish the run game and then they get away from the passing game, and that's when Herbert tends to struggle a little bit. I think

you also have to worry about Austin Eckler at this point, too. He was banged up in the game last week and then showed up on the injury report Wednesday. He's limited, expected to go, but is he going to be the same caliber of Austin Eckler that we're used to getting? There are a lot of things at play here with Herbert, but if he has one of the guys, I think he's fine.

If he has both, he's clearly got top five potential. They played two games last year without Keenan Allen, and Mike Williams led the team in receiving in the first one, four catches, 54 yards on 10 targets. And in the second game,

Keenan Allen was actually on the reserve COVID list for this game. Let's see who led the team in receiving there? That would have been Mike Williams. Six catches, 108 yards, and a touchdown. I believe also Hunter Henry missed those games. We'll talk more about that matchup.

The Giants, actually, they're not a big play defense. They don't give up a lot of those. They play back. They give you a lot of short stuff. Eckler could just have a monster game in the passing game. He always does. Alright, let's see. Also for the Chargers, Chris Harris, cornerback. He's on the

reserve COVID list, but Asante Samuel and Linval Joseph practice, but defensive tackle Justin Jones, who has been very key to their run defense, he missed practice. Mark Ingram on the reserve COVID list and Alvin Kamara practiced in full, so looks like a great setup for Kamara this week.

And hopefully marking him, of course, is okay. I always feel insensitive when I talk about that kind of stuff, but we're assuming he's going to be fine and hopefully off the COVID list shortly. Darren Waller, day to day, still hasn't practiced. So we'll see what happens today. A lot, I've gotten really, I don't know about a lot, but enough questions about the Thursday night tight ends and Darren Waller. You know, a lot, but enough questions about the Thursday night tight ends and Darren Waller.

Do you tell them to just start a Thursday night guy or do you tell them, hey, maybe pick up Moreau or pick up Everett or something like that? Give yourself a chance for Waller. Heath, what do you do in this situation? I think it will depend on what Waller's participation is on Thursday, but I would lean strongly towards trying to get somebody on Sunday and waiting it out if he can even get a limited practice in.

All right, the Raiders are at the Chiefs this week, and they could be getting cornerback Trayvon Mullen back. He was off to a good start this year. He'll be on the outside and give them three, potentially three very good cornerbacks. They've had good pass defense this year, but not against the Chiefs. Melvin Gordon practiced. All right. That game we're

looking at a little bit later, Denver and Detroit. Eli Mitchell still in the concussion protocol and has a knee issue. Who's the highest ranked? Who's the only ranked 49ers running back right now? Is it Hasty, Jamie? Yeah, I have Juszczyk ranked as well just because I think he can be a

desperation flex if there is no Mitchell and there is no Wilson. So yeah, we went into the week not ranking Wilson and Mitchell. So we'll see what happens. It's definitely worth picking up Hasty just in case. If Hasty is the guy, if Wilson's out and Mitchell's out, and Debo didn't practice yesterday either, where would you guys finish ranking Jermichael Hasty? He's only 31% rostered as of right now.

He'd be a high-end flex, borderline starter. I don't know exactly. This isn't a guy that's shown you the ability to handle a big workload yet in his career. So we'll see if he does get that chance and takes advantage of it. But I think you're still looking at he'll have the majority of carries, but is he going to get above 15?

Juszczyk will certainly work in the passing game. We've seen that already this season when they've had an injured running back. I believe they signed somebody off the street. If I'm not mistaken, I'll check. But it was either them or the Rams. No, they signed Brian Hill. Brian Hill. So that's an indication.

I think that, you know, you gotta be a little bit concerned about one of them. Um, my guess is they would elevate Hill if, if need be, and who knows what they would do with him. I think the most difficult thing for me is going to be if there's no Debo,

but both Wilson and hasty are active. Cause Wilson's not healthy and has not been able to get... I mean, he did have one good run last week, but it was called back on a hold. But mostly, he's just running to the back of his offensive lineman and falling down. I don't know who I would rank higher at this point. I might go hasty.

Kadarius, Tony, and Kenny Galladay were practicing off to the side, whereas Sterling Shepard was limited, so he's making some progress. And it might not be Jake Fromm after all. Mike Glennon, if he clears the concussion protocol, will start for the Giants this week. As a former Giants fan,

would you rather see Jake Fromm or Mike Glennon? Well, really, the question is, as someone who's picking up the Chargers DST, I don't care. They're both going to be great. I guess Fromm, right? Why not? Who cares? But why not?

Just for, who cares? But it's not that Glennon has no long-term appeal. Let's see Fromm. Logan Thomas is out for the season. JD McKissick did not practice. Jamal Adams is out for the season. Seattle safety. Now, you might think it's going to hurt them in coverage.

It might. He plays almost every snap. His coverage grades are pretty bad on PFF. His run defense grades are very good, though. That's Jamal Adams starting safety for the Seahawks, and their pass defense has been well against wide receivers. They have been fantastic for about eight straight games now. Joe Mixon mispracticed with an illness.

Tevin Coleman is in the concussion protocol. Oh, my goodness. All right, we're going to talk about that game. I can't imagine we're going to be excited about a Jets running back any which way. Devontae Adams has a hamstring issue. We'll keep an eye on that. Justin Fields is going to start. Alan Robinson

could play this week. David Montgomery missed practice with like three different injuries. He's just beat up right now. We'll see if he practices on Thursday. Terod Taylor practiced in full, but we still don't know who the Texans quarterback will be. David Johnson practiced in full. And I'll tell you now, sneak peek,

Texans and Seahawks, those two teams, see the most running back carries per game in the NFL. No teams get run on more than the Seahawks and the Texans. And yet, I don't know that we're going to want any running backs in that game. And, oh, get excited. Russell Wilson, according to ESPN's Jordan Schultz, would waive his no-trade clause for the Giants

and the Broncos and the Saints. How many first-round picks, Adam? How many are you giving up? Only two. They're both going to be in the top seven or eight, probably. I think that should get it done, maybe with a second or a third round pick in there as well. Is that okay? What do you think?

Both this year. I think you might need three. That's a lot, but it's probably worth it. All right, rankings disputes. Would you guys rather do rankings disputes or one question for each game? Probably one question for each game. Yeah, I kind of like that.

Yeah, me too. Alright, one question for each game. Chiefs hosting the Raiders. Is Josh Jacobs a must-start in non-PPR or half-PPR? I'm sure he's going to be a must-start in full PPR with all the catches lately, but is he a must-start in the other formats, Jamie? Yeah, a billion percent.

Yeah, I mean, you've got to have a loaded roster at this point. Now we're making a mess of the Vikings situation. We might not have a 49ers running back that we trust. Yeah, there's very little certain scenarios where you're sitting Josh Jacobs. Jacksonville and Tennessee. Are there any great, super-confident starts sitting Josh Jacobs, Jacksonville in Tennessee. Are there any great super confident starts in this game? Jacksonville at Tennessee. Um,

the way you phrase it. No, but I do like Deontay Foreman, the best of the backfield. I'm, and this would get into one of the rankings disputes that we did not do, but, um, I think we probably get back to the full James Robinson experience.

I think Urban Meyer is probably tired of answering questions about why James Robinson's not in the game as much. And I think that while he doesn't make the decisions on game day and he doesn't, I'd imagine he's had a talk with the person who does and say hey i don't i don't want to hear any more questions about why we're playing carlos hyde or james robinson carlos hyde's not good and james robinson is so i'm james robinson's my favorite and i'm i'm starting him as a high end number two and by the way julio jones did practice on wednesday so we're keeping our fingers crossed there um all right that game game is the second. You got the big Saints news, too. The big Saints news. Let's see.

What is that? What is the Saints news? Mark Ingram is on the COVID list. Alvin Kamara is going to start. I said that. You did? Yeah. I didn't list you.

I said he practiced in full. I didn't say he's going to start. Oh. Yeah. Come on, son. You said Ingram? Uh-huh. I even said I felt bad about making about going to start, but yeah. Come on, son. You said Ingram? Uh-huh.

I even said I felt bad about making about football and I wished him well. You did say that, yes. I mean, I hope everybody didn't hear that part. Baltimore at Cleveland, Jarvis Landry just had his first 100-yard game against the Ravens in Week 12. Is he a start? Is Jarvis Landry a start? Yes.

Definitely in a three-wide receiver league, probably in a two-wide receiver league, a border Yes. Definitely in a three wide receiver league, probably in a two wide receiver league, but borderline low end number two wide receiver. Would you start Jarvis Landry or a struggling DK Metcalf? Oh, that's a great question. Still Metcalf. Yeah, this

is one of those I think where I have Landry projected higher and I just moved DK higher because I didn't like the way it looked, but yeah, I'd probably start DK. Peer pressure. Not peer pressure. It's... I don't know what it is, really. Alright. That's why you're not in the Hall of Fame. Because you couldn't

stand up to peer pressure. San Francisco at Cincinnati. If Debo Samuel does not play, who is the best wide receiver in this game? Would it be Higgins, Chase, or Ayuk? Who would is the best wide receiver in this game? Would it be Higgins, Chase, or Ayuk? Who would be the best wide receiver? Higgins.

Yeah, Higgins. Then Chase, then Ayuk. Higgins is walking down Jamar Chase on a per-game average. He's what-ing him? He's closing in on passing him points per game yeah yeah it's been what was the phrase you originally used though walking him down walking him down i kind of like that

he's like he's like michael myers or jason just like walking walking him down walking faster than the person can run and just gonna get there and and slash them. Yeah. All right, Detroit at Denver. If Melvin Gordon plays, who is the best running back in this game? Javante Williams. Yeah, I'd probably start both Broncos over. Jamal Williams. So, yeah.

I'll say Javante, but it's probably melvin how do you i just like how do you go away from javante you got to get melvin gordon work i totally get it he shouldn't be sitting on the bench but like how do you not make it uh like clearly 60 40 javante yeah man i agree fire it up seattle houston is it it DK Metcalf week which episode is this this is the week 14 episode the week 13 episode the week episode yeah I mean I'm still starting I'm probably starting him but

I have no confidence that it's DK Metcalf week I like that he got eight targets last week that was nice to see do that again I did think I think I said this on Tuesday maybe I said somewhere Confidence that it's DK Metcalf week. I like that he got eight targets last week. That was nice to see. Do that again. I think I said this on Tuesday, maybe. I said somewhere. I don't know. We say a lot of things in different places.

I'm scripting a game. I'm scripting four targets for that guy on the opening drive. Like, I don't understand. Just give him chances. Give these guys chances early. Get them going early. Yeah. I think he's had eight targets in three of his last four games

the Washington game is the one that stands out where he was just not involved yeah and there was only four targets or something but it was all late yeah okay and then finally New Orleans at the Jets I hope Daniel Jones next year just throws to DK Mekka

oh yes he was a first round pick Heath could he be the third one two first round I hope Daniel Jones next year just throws to DK Mecca. Oh, yes. He was a first-round pick, Heath. Could he be the third one? Two first-round picks, Daniel Jones? I believe that asset has depreciated. All right. Would you start Taysom Hill over any stud quarterbacks? I currently have him ranked over Herbert

with the scenarios that are at play with Herbert. I have him ranked over Russell Wilson if he still falls in that category. Burrow, if he's a stub quarterback. Burrow, yes. Not Lamar Jackson, not Patrick Mahomes. I think he's in the same range as Lamar. I don't think I have him ranked ahead of Lamar, but it's definitely close. I would start him over Stafford. Oh, interesting. Why?

Stafford's got a pretty bad matchup, and I think Taysom Hill is kind of the same in terms of fantasy as Stafford. He's been basically 24 fantasy points per game in his starts. Would you start him over? I don't like to over-under, though, because it's a high expected total. Right.

Would you start Kyler Murray or Taysom Hill? So Kyler and Stafford facing off on Monday night. Kyler. I would still start Stafford over Taysom, but I can see where he's going. Looking forward to that game, by the way. All right, let's go to the games. Is that a bonanza? I haven't done a bonanza in weeks. What's it going to be? I don't pay attention when you're reading the news. I certainly don't pay attention when you're giving bonanzas. No, I'm a bonanza in weeks. What's it going to be?

I don't pay attention when you're reading the news. I certainly don't pay attention when you're giving a bonanza. No, I'm not going to do that. There's too much uncertainty there. That actually could be a terrible game for fantasy. That game's uncertainty? What's uncertainty? There's one situation. Both of the backfields. I guess both, yeah. Between

Van Jefferson and Beckham, I don't know. Obviously, they're going to shut down Cooper Cup. They shut down every number one wide receiver, including Cooper Cup. I do want to bring something up because Jamie brought something up, and I think it's a good talking point because we talk about over-unders

and implied point totals a lot. That Arizona Rams game has an over-under of 52. The Jets and Saints is 43, so an enormous difference. Their implied team totals, the Saints are 24.25. The Rams are 24.75 because one of them is a favorite, one of them is an underdog. I was joking about them shutting down Cooper Cup,

although you know how I feel about Arizona against number ones. They did the first one. They did. It's the only bad game of the year, only game with fewer than 90 yards. Las Vegas is at Kansas City. I was curious curious by the way to see if uh if cooper cup was going to break a receiving record this year it is possible but

calvin johnson had over 1900 yards in a 16 game season cup is on pace for something over 1800 yards per 16 games but he could i think i saw saw on Twitter that Waddle now is maybe favored or pretty close to even odds to break the rookie reception record. Oh, what is that? About 100? I think it's 101. Bolden? Is it Bolden? That sounds right.

Alright, Las Vegas at Kansas City. Here we go. Josh Jacobs, stat of the game, the most fantasy points he has scored in full PPR without a touchdown was 13.5 at the Giants in Week 9. To put that in perspective, there are 21 running backs averaging more than that in full PPR. So you sit here, you tell me Josh Jacobs is so great.

He is very game script dependent. He did not have a good game against the Chiefs. He had seven carries for 16 yards and five catches for 20 yards just a few weeks ago. I get it. I'm starting him too. But are we overrating him a little bit here? I think it's interesting the way that you phrased that. The most points he's scored without a touchdown.

I thought maybe you were talking about if you combined his catches and yards from each of the games, this is the most points he scored not counting touchdowns because last week he did score a touchdown, but if you take his touchdown away, he still scored 18 fantasy points, right? He had 22.

You just added that was great. That that was very good and it really resonated with me I'm just a little worried about him getting you know 10 carries or something like that well I guess and you started the show with this is the same Chiefs offense that we saw in the first matchup showing up or is the Chiefs offense that we've seen for the

majority of the season showing up because if they're not going to blow the doors off the Raiders then the game script is going to be in josh jacobs favor because it'll be close game yeah well how what do you guys think also who shows up also um kenyan drake and jaylen richard had three catches and four carries in that game and right now now it's Josh Jacobs and Peyton Barber. So I think there's probably three or four targets that he didn't get in that game that he would get based on who's currently available. Maybe not to say they're going to have the same,

same amount of targets, the running backs in both games, but I see your point. I see your point. I mean, they don't have Darren Waller. I don't know. I think they probably may have more.

Yeah. All right. You're going to sit Carr, I assume? Yeah. Yes. He did play well in Arrowhead last year, but prior to that, oh my God, is he terrible in Arrowhead Stadium. Oh, it's going to be cold, I'm sure. He doesn't like that. Well, it's a one o'clock start,

though, so it shouldn't be too bad. It's cold during the day. It's 30 degrees right now where I'm at. It's cold. All right, so start, Jacob. Sit, Carr. Renfro. Stud, total must start? Total must start.

Stud, total must start. And the forecast on Sunday is 46, high of 46. I believe Derek Carr is the, high of 46. I believe Derek Carr is the, I think below 50 was where he had struggled. You know, Renfro is interesting. I know he's coming off two straight games with 100 yards, right? He's, yeah, 134 at Dallas, 102 against Washington. And that's just not who he is.

So how do you square that, you know? It's a guy who before that, he went seven straight games with fewer than 60 yards, including 46 yards on nine targets. He did catch a touchdown, though, against the Chiefs a few weeks ago. So, I mean, is he really a top 20 wide receiver or is he more of a top 30 wide receiver? I think it depends on the format.

I think he's top 20 in PPR. It's hard to get away from that. I think in non-PPR, you could say he's maybe closer to top 30, but I'm still going to rank him in the top 24. He's basically getting eight-plus targets a week. Now there's no Darren Waller. He's their best red zone threat. It's just hard to get away from what he's done,

whether it's the touchdowns or the 100-yard games in four straight weeks. I think... You know I always get frustrated with these kind of guys when we're debating them and we have so much crap behind them. I think that's what it is. The way fantasy football was a couple of years ago, a guy with Hunter Renfro's profile probably was a top 30 wide receiver. That's not the universe we're currently existing in.

Right. Okay. Who do you feel more comfortable with now? And I'm not, I'm not saying you specifically Adam, but I think just in general, like DK Metcalf or Hunter Renfro. I would start Metcalf, but I wouldn't like it. That's the, that's the, I can't sit DK Metcalf for Hunter Renfro. Yeah, I know. And you're losing every week then.

Losing points, for sure. Losing that battle, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Hunter Renfro or Jamar Chase, it's the same thing. Yeah. But the Chiefs defense is playing lights out right now. They played lights out when they played them the first time, too. Yeah, he got lucky. They're better now, but they were still good then.

I would say he got lucky, but he was fortunate to catch a touchdown. But he scored 11.6 without the touchdown. And that's better than what you're getting out of DK most weeks. You can't count that game, though, Heath. It's either he scores or he doesn't score. You can't do that. All right. So if Darren Waller plays, you're going to start him.

The Chiefs struggle against tight ends. And Moreau coming. He did the first time around, though. Well, he caught a touchdown. It was called back. But he did find himself in the end zone. I mean, it was like a stupid formation penalty. They are bad against tight ends, though.

They do. And you're starting. I don't think they are as bad as they were. They are not as bad as they were against anyone. You know, they're obviously a much. Are you disagreeing with me that you start Darren Waller? No, you're absolutely starting Darren Waller. But it's not like it's a layup anymore like it used to be.

Right, this matchup's not a layup like it used to be, but you're starting Waller. What about Moreau if Waller doesn't play? No, you can't trust it. He averaged 34 yards per catch last week. That's true. That is a very good yards per catch. YPC for life, yes.

One catch for 34 yards. All right, Mahomes. Three targets, that's more alarming. I was expecting him in the six range. The fact that he was below six targets is annoying. How many pass attempts last week for Carr? He had 38. Wow, and only three in Morrow.

So, all right, let's go to the Chiefs. Let's get Morrow targets for him. We'll talk about Clyde separately, but in terms of their passing game. Sort of. I just want to know from your process, how did you go about ranking them? I know, Heath, I've seen you

tweet about it. Patrick Mahomes has been this for so long, so you're sort of forgiving. Another thing that hasn't changed yet, and I did tweet about this earlier in the week. They still have one of the highest implied point totals. This week at 29. And.

Mahomes scored 46 against him three weeks ago. And about 56. In the other five games combined. In his last six. That's inaccurate. It's close. It's close. It's within 10. Oh, no. I'll do the math

now. You're starting Patrick Mahomes. It's just the way that I don't think anybody's sitting him. I'm almost dead on. Yeah, I get it. Jamie, you're actually the low guy. I am fifth. Bad job by me, I guess.

I'm just wondering how people would feel about him if he didn't light up the Raiders, because that's been his only good game in his last six. I think it works, probably. Oh, for sure. And if he doesn't light up the Raiders this week, you're probably out of the playoffs. Yeah, I think worse, too. And the thing is, the Raiders

have a solid pass defense, but they give up a lot of points to quarterbacks. I don't really know what that's all about. They've played some very good ones. Well, the fact that they gave up 46 to Mahomes is probably altering the average, I would guess. Yeah, 27 to Hertz, 29 to Dak, 46 to Mahomes, 26 to Herbert. All right, fine.

Start him. Start Tyreek. Start Kelsey. Jamie, start or sit Clyde? I'll start, but in the back end number two running back range, not a slam dunk. I mean, you saw last week the problem, as Darrell Williams is still a significant factor.

And so you're not going to get a huge ceiling play from Clyde unless he scores. And he does have a chance to score. I have him in one league, and he's obviously starting for me in that league. There's some guys that I currently have ranked behind him that if we got more certainty on the situation, I think would probably be ahead of him. If we could get a report saying Sonny Michel is going to remain

the lead back for the Rams, or Daryl Henderson is going to be in the same spot that he was last week, then I'd definitely put Sonny ahead of Clyde. But I can't right now because I don't have any certainty about that situation. I think if you told me that Mitchell and Wilson and Debo were all out, I'd move hasty ahead of Clyde. But there's too much uncertainty right now. I can't. So there's several guys I think you could make an argument for putting ahead of Clyde that we don't currently have. Javante Williams or Clyde, but there's too much uncertainty right now. I can't. There's several guys I think you could make an argument for putting ahead of Clyde that we don't currently have. Javante Williams or Clyde?

I would start both Broncos running backs ahead of Clyde. I would too. We don't have Melvin Rank, so that'd be another guy that would move Clyde down a spot. And finally, Dalvin Cook or Clyde? Dalvin. And I might start Madison over him, too. Let's take a quick break here. When we come back,

Jacksonville at Tennessee. We'll tell you... Well, we'll try to decide. Is this a tough matchup for James Robinson? We'll tell you right after this. For a limited time, switch to Shopify point of sale, and you could save up to 20% and improve your bottom line. We're so serious about

savings, we've made this ad 20% shorter. That means you get six seconds back. Just enough time to visit shopify.com slash POS20. Now that's an efficient ad. Eligibility requirements apply. See shopify.com slash POS20 for details. tales. Welcome back to fantasy football today. Jacksonville was at Tennessee and here's your stat of the game. The Titans allow the second fewest fantasy points to running backs. There has only been one running running back with more than 70 rushing yards against the Titans. And who was it?

James Robinson, James Robinson, 149 rushing guard. So this was going to be a rankings dispute. Heath made his case a little bit earlier. Feels like they're going to get back to Robinson. James Robinson, 149 rushing guard. So this was going to be a rankings dispute. Heath made his case a little bit earlier. Feels like they're going to get back to Robinson. Jamie, where do you have him ranked? You're a little bit more hesitant.

Back end of the RB2 group. He's at 24 right now. I'll probably move him up a spot or two, depending on some of these scenarios like Heath played out. But it's a tough matchup. It's a situation that's very murky right now. Bernie Parmelee was the name, the name you were referencing, Heath, of who Irvin should go talk to.

He's the running backs coach. And he's apparently making the decisions on who should be in, who should be out. And he indicated at least one of the last two weeks that he thought Carlos Hyde was fresher and looked better than whatever James Robinson was doing. He's fumbled in two straight games. So who knows if he fumbles again, you know,

if he's out for a significant stretch, I have Robinson in a few leagues, I'm still starting him. Uh, but I just don't love it. I wish there was a better situation. I wish that there was a squeaky wheel game coming because he's, he's complaining. He's a very quiet guy. Um, I spoke to him, uh, this off season, you know, uh, from what Pete Prisco says from the people in Jacksonville, he's very quiet for him to say anything I think is kind of telling that he's, he's very frustrated, understandably so. And so I hope, I hope you're right, Heath, that they just go back, back to him. We get that, that bounce back breakout type of game, but matchup situation, uh,

makes me feel a little bit concerned about where James Robinson's at right now. And you would have Deontay Foreman ahead of him. So actually, I do have Deontay Foreman ahead of him. I don't have Dontrell Hilliard ahead of him, but I do have Foreman ahead of him. What's up with McNichols? I did not check that. Practice in full.

All right. So that's why we're a little nervous about Hilliard. I look nervous about all three of them, but I think just, you know, based on what I expect from this backfield for Tennessee, that I think Foreman is going to lead them in carries. And I think that will matter in this matchup okay so Heath I don't know if you want to get back into

James Robinson you talked about it earlier up to you but also talk about the Titans backfield and what you expect from them we don't have like this is one of the 12 different situations where we don't have a great deal of um I think probably hilliard and foreman split the early down work maybe a 60 40 edge to foreman and hilliard and mcnichols may split the passing downs work maybe a 60 40 edge to mcnichols and none of them are going to rank inside of my top 24 in any format it look you know it's a pretty tough matchup but they've given up 100 yards the jaguars in three of their last four games so maybe they're getting a little bit worse that was jonathan taylor sony michelle and who's the other one who am i forgetting here

uh patterson cordell patterson so the jacksonville scenario is starting to get the feel of, and it's totally understandable because it's human nature, of we're done, let's go on vacation. And so they're professionals, they're playing. This is not a slight toward their effort, but you just see this with teams year over year when they're out of it and you're just tired of getting beat up week in, week out. It's just, again, human nature. So I look at the Patriots game as an indication of kind of, I think,

where they think of Foreman in a non-favorable game script that he got 19 carries. I'd be surprised if he doesn't lead them in carries. I don't know by what margin. Like you've said, it could be, you know, 60-40 in terms of the rushing downs work. And then whatever Hilliard gives them in both of his roles. I just feel like they're going to win the game. I feel like they're going to lean on their bigger back and Foreman fits that description better than the other two guys.

You, okay. Jamie has Foreman right out of AJ Dillon. How about you Heath? I do not. I did. I am updating with McNichols inks. We didn't have McNichols in.

I do have Foreman ahead of Hilliard now, but he's going to be right behind all of those guys. I've got him, I think, RB28. I would still start Madison tonight, I think. Well, source said, Dalvin Cook has passed tests on his shoulder and will play, barring pregame setback. Incredibly quick turnaround from dislocated shoulder.

That just came in from Jeremy Fowler. Yeah, so he got approached like he's the guy. Yeah, okay. If Julio Jones plays, would you start him over the running backs in this game no um well running backs in terms of all of them how many running backs would you start over him i would start foreman and robinson over julio i'd probably, given the McNichols return, still start Julio over the other two Titans guys and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde, I kind of like Hyde, but no. I would probably go Robinson, Julio, Foreman in full PPR. Robinson, Foreman, Julio in non-PPR. Real quick to wrap this game up here. Trevor Lawrence is a sit. What about Ryan Tannehill? He's behind Roethlisberger. If you're comparing backups,

he's behind taste them. Obviously. I think he's an interesting play here with Julio back in the fold. I don't know if you saw Adam and you may have said, and I didn't hear you. So she killed Griffin. If he was able to clear the concussion protocol and return for Jacksonville secondary.

I didn't say that. I didn't. So I know he was able to clear the concussion protocol in return for Jacksonville secondary. I didn't say that. I know he was trending in that direction. I think Tannehill, he had 15 fantasy points against them in the first meeting in week four, I think it was. Or week six, one of those two. So I think that's the floor. That's kind of where Tannehill's lived in his bad games.

I don't think he has a huge ceiling, so that's the risk. I don't think he's going for 25-plus. So can he get you to 20? He hasn't done that very often, but not a horrendous sleeper for this week. Yeah, that game against Jacksonville, 15 points, but 8.95 yards per attempt, his second most of the season, and they ran the ball 36 times in that game.

Three of them were from Tannehill. Derrick Henry had 29 carries. So I I guess just the thinking if he's that efficient or even a little less efficient and but he throws more you know you could have a decent game from Tannehill who is still 81% rostered people held him for the New England game they held him through the pie I don't understand well it's also the fantasy managers who are out of it that then check the right I that must be it. Cause he's been over rostered for basically, you know,

the entire season. We didn't know that, but for a long, long time. Uh, and the tight, I know he has James O'Shaughnessy 13th in full PPR. He's getting targets.

I don't think it's a, you know, ringing endorsement, but it's something. And I think that's going to be it for this game. I'm not going to start any Jacksonville wide receivers, right? No. No.

All right. And Tennessee's DST is top four for everybody. Baltimore at Cleveland. Stat of the game number one, no running back with a minimum of six carries. Has averaged more than 3.54 yards per carry against Baltimore, except for the Broncos guys got him, the Bengals guys, and Dalvin Cook without Brandon Williams and David Montgomery.

So there have been four, but that's really not that many, I promise. Did you say no at the beginning of that sentence? Four running backs have got it. That was poor wording. But no running back has rushed for more than 59 yards against the Ravens, except for two guys, Dalvin Cook and Najee Harris. Why not just say two running backs have rushed for more than 59 yards? I should say that.

This is a really tough run defense. And if we watch the game two weeks ago, if we go back to the Sunday night game, the Ravens had zero respect for the Browns passing game. And they loaded up the box and they destroyed Chubb and Kareem Hunt. So Heath, what do you do with the Cleveland running backs in this game? And is Devante Freeman better than either of them in this game? I'm still starting Chubb over Freeman. I'm still starting Chubb as a borderline top 12 running back. I'm a little bit worried

about Kareem Hunt. I think he's more of a high-end flex. I go back and forth with him in Foreman. I go back and forth with him in Pollard. So that's kind of where I'm at. I'm starting Chubb still. I would definitely start Freeman over Hunt. Okay. Jamie, Freeman or Hunt?

I agree. Everything he said. Still trust Chubb, still start Freeman over hunt. That was Jack Conklin's first game back after he was out for however many weeks he missed. It was Hunt's first game back. And I would hope that they have a better game plan coming off their bi-week.

I don't really love that. Conklin's gone. Conklin's out for the season, isn't he? Oh, he got hurt in that game. Yeah, he came back and got hurt.

Yeah, my mistake. So that's another problem is their offensive line is a little bit... So Deontay Foreman or Kareem Hunt? Foreman. I've got Hunt right now.

James Robinson or Kareem Hunt? Robinson. Robinson. All right, let's go to... Let's talk about Lamar Jackson. No quarterback has scored more than 10 points against Cleveland except for Mahomes, Terod Taylor, Cousins, Herbert, Murray, Bridgewater,

Roethlisberger, Mack Jones. That was a joke. Good. That was a good job. Okay, thanks. Jackson was terrible last time he faced the Browns, which was only two weeks ago. This was the Browns' most recent game, by the way.

They went Ravens by Ravens. And he is eighth for all of you. Who are you starting ahead of Lamar Jackson? Mahomes still. Both have struggled. I would start Stafford over him just based on what I think that game is going to look like. It's the usual suspects.

Brady, Allen, Mahomes, Prescott, Kyler, Rogers. And for Heath, it's Taysom Hill. And for Jamie, they're back-to-back for both of them. For Heath, it's Hill, Jackson. For Jamie, it's Jackson Hill. I don't know that I actually have the courage to stick with Taysom Hill over Lamar Jackson, but they'll remain back-to-back one direction or the other.

Okay. Always Heath making one-direction references. We talked about Devontae Freeman. Marquise Brown, you guys have as a top 20 wide receiver, top 17 in full PPR. So I know he's been struggling lately, but good luck getting away from him. Same with Andrew.

So what about Landry? He's getting at least seven targets every week. And last time he had, I think it was, what, 10 targets or 12 targets? Yeah, the difference is just the ADOT and the lack of big plays. That's been the problem. I think, what was it, 12 targets and eight catches

or 10 targets and eight catches? For what? Marquise Brown, the last time these two teams met. 10 targets, eight catches for 51 yards. Right. If you tell me he's getting double-digit targets and eight catches, I will sign up for it. I don't care if I fail and fall on my face and he gets eight for eight,

I'll take my chances. But if you tell me he's getting eight catches on any week, I'm taking Mark East Brown. I can't tell you he's going to get eight catches. That's a lot of catches. That's what I'm saying, though. If he's getting anything close to that, and you put the ball in his hands that many times you gotta you gotta love it yeah it just hasn't has not worked out lately because

he's just not getting downfield targets and he was making a big play basically every single game and those are going away lately um but yeah I mean I think he's probably going to be started in more than 90 percent of leagues really it's it's about Jarvis Landry and Kareem Hunt in this game. And we can talk about the Cleveland tight ends too because they have some opportunity for Austin Hooper if the other guys are out. But Heath, who do you like better as a flex, Hunt or Landry? Landry and PPR probably in half as well.

Hunt and none. I should mention this will be the first game without Marlon Humphrey for the Ravens. They are now missing three-fourths of their starting secondary from week one. They are a total mess. Bad pass defense at this point. So, all right, Landry's probably going to be started.

Landry or Brandon Cooks? Landry. Pretty easy for me. Landry or Dalvin Cook tonight? Cook. Cook. Landry or Madison?

Landry. Okay. And you want to do more Kareem Hunt or are we good? I think we're pretty good there. If Jermichael Hasty is the starter, Jeff Wilson's out, and Mitchell's out, would you start Hasty or Hunt? Hasty.

Definitely Hasty if Debo's out, too. That's probably the last one. It probably has to be all three, though. Okay. Heath, any interest in a Cleveland tight end? The top three tight ends on the team, Njoku, Bryant, and Hooper, average 8.8 targets per game,

and two of them might not play. If Harris and Bryant's out, then I would view Hooper as a borderline top 12 guy. If Harris and Bryant plays, then I still don't feel a great deal of confidence just because what they're taking away with Njoku is not something Hooper's done since he's gotten to Cleveland,

and that's going downfield. Everything Hooper catches is within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, so I'm not sure how much Njoku he's gotten to Cleveland, and that's going downfield. Everything Hooper catches is within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, so I'm not sure how much Njoku's going in. Oh, news. Harrison Bryan has been ruled out for this game. Well, there we go. Did not know that.

I'll move to that time. That was 20 hours ago. Totally did not see that. Njoku, you're just sort of assuming he's out. He's on the reserve COVID list. We don't rank players that are on the COVID list generally. Okay. So yeah.

All right. So let's do this right now as if Hooper's the only of the three tight ends. Hooper or would you play someone tonight? Oh, the guys tonight. The guys tonight are in good spots. I'm updating. I would go Hooper over Fryermuth Conklin over Hooper

okay I don't like Fryermuth Hooper or Everett who's a better streamer Hooper I'd go Hooper now yeah yeah Baltimore I mean they give up a ton of points to tight ends there's a lot of really great ones but they've been sort of up and down against the not so great ones including

Harrison Bryan who had 50 yards, and Njoku, who had 35 yards and a touchdown. San Francisco is at Cincinnati. Really looking forward to this game. Stat of the game. This is a tough one to say, too. In 1835, Cincinnati became the first place

to lift a bag of air mail in a hot air balloon. They put mail in a hot air balloon. They put mail in a hot air balloon. They were the first ones to do it. 1835, Cincinnati. That's from fox19.com. Okay. This, I believe, might be the only game so far this week

that we've seen a swap in the line. The Bengals opened, I think, at two-point favorites at home, and San Francisco now a one-point road favorite over the Bengals. in the line the bingles opened i think at two point favorites at home and san francisco now a one point road favorite over the bingles that is interest that is more interesting than the hot air balloon which quarterback you like better burrow still burrow okay um i feel like we've talked about the running back situation so much but jb talk talk about it for san francisco and if this then that just put a little bow on it mitchell starts he's your starter and has top 10 upside uh mitchell is out and wilson plays wil Wilson has top 20 upside. Mitchell and Wilson are out, and Debo is out.

Then Hasty has top 24 upside, and Kyle Juszczyk is a streamer. So if Wilson and Hasty play, Heath already expressed frustration. I don't know who it's going to be. How healthy is Wilson? Jamie, you would rank which running back higher? I mean, they already gave you at least one sample size of this when Mitchell missed the game earlier, you know, when Wilson had 19 carries. So I would assume they go back to Wilson if he's able to go now, he practiced on a limited basis. So that's a good sign if you're looking at it as maybe who's the direct backup. So I don't know.

I would prefer it to be Mitchell, obviously. If there is no Mitchell, I would prefer it to be just Hasty by himself. And Heath, you're just not sure because of Mitchell, because Wilson hasn't been good and he's not healthy. Right. And he had a prior injury and it's flared back up. It's not a great matchup either. They're particularly bad in the passing game against running backs. It's not a great matchup either. They're, they're particularly bad in the passing game against running backs.

It's not exactly San Francisco's thing. So if you've got a subpar running back, you know, going, going up against a good run defense, even if it's the 49ers, these guys are going to be behind the Titans unless there's only one of them.

Okay. San Francisco wide receivers. I'm sure we're going to start Debo if he plays, although I will point out he has two catches for 27 yards in his last two games. Ah, who needs catches? That's right. Crazy.

What about Brandon Ayuk coming off a disappointing game? You know, if you look at his last six games, that's kind of when his season was revived. He's got three good games against Arizona, Jacksonville, and Minnesota, and those are really good games. 85 or more yards. Three bad games at Chicago,

home against the Rams at Seattle. It's kind of a matchups thing. And of course Cincinnati is right in the middle of the pack. 18th against wide receivers. So start or sit Ayuk? I would try to sit him if you can, but not in a three-receiver league.

I think he's a high-end number three if there's no Debo and a low-end number three if there is Debo. Can I tell you a funny story that just happened? Yeah, sure. So my buddy, Adam Frankel, turns 50 today. Happy birthday, Adam. And his brother wants me to tweet something about his birthday. He's big, watches our stuff and big CBS guy.

So he's been texting me to remind me about tweeting or mentioning his birthday. And there's another number on the text chain with it. So I just sent my friend the text, the brother the text. I said, who's the other person on the text chain? He goes, it's your wife. It's not my wife. who's the other person on the text chain he goes it's your wife it's not my wife it's the wrong number he's texting some random person you know that's good and i think last night i think my phone picks up the bluetooth of my neighbor and i can put my i can stream my phone onto their bedroom device. And I've done that a few times.

I think. Whoa. Hey now. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I've got my. You gotta specify what bedroom device. I've got device.

Okay. Mrs. Doubtfire. Um. Woo. Okay. So I've been doing that recently. I've been like hitting the wrong button when I selected when I said, this is how far I live, by the way,

what'd you say? Mrs. Doubtfire lived. What do you mean? She didn't die. Oh, he, oh,

you're telling Heath. Oh dude, Jamie, Heath had such a pop culture miss yesterday. I'm so sad. You weren't on the show. Um, somebody said,

dear for clever name. So I said, okay, Peter, Ray Egon and Winston. Oh no. Heath okay, Peter, Ray, Egon, and Winston. Oh, no. Heath wasn't really paying attention. All he heard was Winston. He goes, oh, that's new girl, right?

I thought he was joking. I was like, oh, you're serious? Anyway, entering week 14 here, the Bengals have allowed 80 yards to eight wide receivers in their last six games. They've been a little vulnerable there. Start Kittle. On the other side of the ball, sit Burrow if you can. Would you start Teddy Bridgewater against the Lions over Joe Burrow?

No. No. Would you start Ben Roethlisberger over Burrow? Yes. Yes and a no. Cam Newton over Burrow? Yes. Heath? Yeah. Okay, yes and a yes. Cam Newton over Burrow. Yes. Heath? Yeah.

Okay, yes and a yes on that one. Joe Mixon is a start. Nine straight games with a touchdown. I think I'm going to avoid in DFS, though. Pick up here, I know, just in case. Yeah. Sure. They're a good run defense here, but obviously you're starting Mixon.

And then you're going Higgins over Chase. Yes. Where is Chase? Top 20? Yep. Yes, they're both starts. It's weird to have two top 20 wide receivers and a quarterback that we're calling a six. Well, Chase at this point is more of the FOMO factor than he is. This is guaranteed to happen.

Yeah. Okay. Hopefully, this could be a really. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully, this could be a really fun game and sit C.J. Uzama. I think the one thing, just to tie in the 49ers running back situation one more time, Logan Wilson's absence is going to be big.

Yeah, that's true. And by the way, Fred Warner looks like he's going to play. I don't know about Dre Greenlaw. Do you? I don't know yet. No. Okay.

Double check on that. All right. Those are a couple of linebackers, starting linebackers for the 49ers. Greenlaw did not practice yesterday. Detroit at Denver. I think we got three games left. Here we go.

Stat of the game. Denver allows this. Okay. This one actually matters. I think Denver allows the second fewest fantasy points to tight ends. And they have done that while facing Mark Andrews, Darren Waller, Travis Kelsey, and Dallas Goddard.

And now they will face TJ Hawkinson, who has a touchdown in two straight games. Heath, how confident are you in TJ Hawkinson this week? I'm not going to stream anyone over him. Okay. Who might you have the best streamer and I'm not for me and I'm not

going to stream Conklin over him are there any tight ends low end tight ends that you have moved ahead of him that you might also like adult like I think the only guy who was drafted behind him that you're starting over him is Gronk not Conklin over him in PPR. You would? Interesting.

And Friar. Oh, okay. That's pretty sexy. This is going to be a tough game for him. He's also banged up. He's got a hand injury. Denver's defense is really good. Third best scoring defense. They are tied for 12th in yards per play,

but they should really limit Detroit. Which brings us to Jamal Williams. Around 20th for you guys? Something like that? Jamie, give me your thoughts on Jamal Williams against the Broncos. The run defense is not so great, although it's been better lately. Yeah, I don't

love him, but you're buying into workload, obviously. So hopefully he continues to be the guy without Swift there and does more with it this week than he did last week. And the hope would be, not for Lions fans, but that they're in their usual negative game script and that the running back is the one catching passes out of the backhoe. So hopefully that's Jamal Williams.

We just didn't see it last week because the game script wasn't as bad. Hayden Cooper in our chat says, Wait, I missed. Who would Jamie start Conklin and Pat over? And a couple people guessed fans. Over TJ Hawkinson. But it's no, it's Hawkinson. Yeah.

So would you start Fant over Hawkinson? No. Noah, thank you. I'm back to that again. All right. Jamal Williams or Jarvis Landry? Williams and non-PPR, Landry and PPR. Yep.

How about half? Landry. Any PPR scoring for me is Landry. Yep. Jamal Williams or Tee Higgins? Higgins. Yeah. As long as Higgins is healthy.

Chase or Higgins? Chase or Williams?ins or Chase or Chase uh Chase yes how about Chase is on the case Chase is on the case how about a Seahawks running back or Jamal Williams? No. Right, okay. That was such a stupid question. Let's go to the wide receivers. Do you have a Detroit... Which Detroit wide receiver would you start in this game if you were going to start one?

I would start Reynolds in non-PPR and Amon Ross St. Brown in PPR. Yeah, I think that makes the most sense. They're both borderline number three options. Yeah, all right. The Denver has not allowed more than 66 yards. Well, only one wide receiver in their last six games has had more than 66 yards.

That was Keenan Allen. How many wide receivers have you had between 55 and 65? I don't know, but that's not that good. But I can tell you. Let's see. Devontae Smith had 66. McLaurin had 23. Lamb had 23.

They're really good. No Cleveland wide receiver had more than 37. Hunter Renfro had 36 yards. Henry Ruggs had a big game. Yeah, they're good. On the other side of the ball, Teddy Bridgewater is 15th for Heath. You're the high guy.

Cool. Yeah, I think it's a good matchup, and he's probably going to be somewhere around that 18 to 22 point range. I just don't see them throwing a lot. That's the problem for Bridgewater, and it's clearly like, he's been worse since Judy's come back. I don't get it. You give him

what should be a great receiver and their team has changed. That's a part of it, but his stats have just gone south since Jerry Judy's been there. Another guy not throwing the ball downfield. He really was at the start of the season and he's not doing it at all. Now, the setup of the Lions is always the same.

You just said it, Jamie. Teams don't throw a lot on them. They run a ton. So both running backs are going to be in play here. And you guys, now you're going, after last week, we're going Javante over Melvin? I mean, that's kind of the way I've felt for the majority of the season.

You know, it's almost like I have to force myself to rank Melvin Gordon ahead of Javante Williams when they're both healthy most weeks. I will say this. If Melvin Gordon's out, Javante Williams is my number one running back this week. I've got him number two right now without Melvin. Madison is my number one right now. So once I change that, Javante will be number one. Yeah, I've got Eckler and then Javante. I think I'll have, have, you know me,

until I project Melvin, I don't know exactly, but I think I'll have Williams ahead, especially if Melvin's a limited participant and doesn't get a full practice in. I think you can, again, unless you have both and you have just other great options, one of these two guys should be great and the other should be still very, very good.

Yep. All right, here's a good one. Let's say Chase Edmonds is activated, and we know James Conner goes back to a role where he basically catches maybe one pass per game. Well, we don't know that, but maybe we project that. Who would you start? Conner or Javante Williams?

If Melvin Gordon and Chase Edmonds are both back? I don't have a lot of faith in the Cardinals giving Chase Edmonds his role back right away because Connor has been awesome. I would think that Connor is still going to get the majority of the work. I would probably go

Connor, Williams, Gordon, Edmonds. I like that. Okay. Then the Denver wide receivers. This team, they've faced, the Lions have faced a lot of really good number ones, but they are so bad. I mean, they give up enormous games

to number one wide receivers. Does that mean anything for you guys in this matchup? Man, I mean, Jerry Judy's played what now? Six games on the season? Seven? Six, pretty sure. Yeah, five and a half, I guess. five and a half um he didn't he hasn't scored a touchdown yet he's kind of been living in that six for 50 six for 60 range so ppr i think

he's an okay number three receiver but i can't really get behind saying he's a must-start guy like i'm i'm forced to start him in a couple of leagues one is non-ppr and i hate it um but it's almost like i don't want to drop him yet. But he's very frustrating. Very, very frustrating. But I think the Lions matchup does mean something. It means we're still ranking Jerry Judy as a number three wide receiver. I think if he was playing a

tough matchup this week, I'm not sure he'd be in anybody's top 40. And another thing that Jerry Judy hasn't done in his five and a half games, he has not played 80% of the snaps yet. So he's still not truly a full-time wide receiver. It's tough to be great less than 80% of the snaps. It's not terrible.

I mean, it's not like he's getting 40%, but you'd like to see more. Noah Fant is a sit. I asked Heath this question somewhere. Again, I apologize. You should be buying all of the Broncos dynasty options you can get because that quarterback upgrade next year, whether it's Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers or somebody that's better than what they have right now, is going to unleash those receivers.

It's going to be fun. It's my dream landing spot for Gardner Minshew. But you'd be so far away from him. I don't think he's an Elway prototype either. Noah Fant is, yeah, he's low end at think he's an elway prototype either uh noah fant is yeah he's low end at best and uh it is a great really crappy week for tight ends and i know they're 13th against tight ends but they are they are just not good against tight ends so like the last two weeks it's been comet 65 yards and jimmy graham scored tyler conklin seven catches for 56 yards so alberto

is a problem for a fan. A little bit of hope. He is. And the main problem, obviously the difference between Friar Muth and Fant is that Friar Muth scored six touchdowns this year and Fant only scored three. But they have the same problem

in that their targets are all within five yards of the line of scrimmage and they're not doing anything after the catch. They are two of the worst tight ends in terms of yards per catch and yards per target this season. And it's not all their fault, but it's really hard to be good

when you get four or five targets, six targets a game, and they're all at the line of scrimmage. You know, Travis Kelsey has only scored two touchdowns since week two. Is that wild? Moving on. Seattle at Houston.

Guys, we have five minutes left. Let's knock these two games out. Stat of the game, Seattle and Houston, like I said, they see the most running back carries per game in the NFL. Do we have any interest in any running back in this game? I do not. I do Rashad Penny as a flex. Okay.

I think if you are desperate, Adrian Peterson is going to score. Who's active for them this week? Because Pete Carroll said he thinks Alex Collins is going to be back. It's a great question. Yeah. I mean, be back in terms of health or be back in terms of playing because those are two separate things, I think. I think he could be healthy enough to play

and they still make him a healthy scratch. I'm afraid it's going to be Collins, Penny, Peterson, and Homer are the four active running backs. They won't. I don't think they have all four. Well, I guess, yeah, DJ Dallas could be out. Homer's definitely going to play if he's healthy. He's also banged up.

More interesting, I think, is Russell Wilson. You guys do have in your top 12. The Texans have not allowed more than 12 fantasy points to a quarterback in four straight games. That's because most teams have a running game. Yeah. Brissette, Tannehill, Wilson, and Wentz. So, alright. How

and wait, Wilson. Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson. Yeah, there you go. So, alright. Your confidence level in Russell Wilson is what? Not high, but still startable. Like, I'm starting him over Kirk Cousins, for example. I like his matchup better than what Cousins has tonight.

I would start him over Roethlisberger. I would start him over Cam still, but he's not a slam dunk. No, Cam's the one I really, well, Cam and Herbert are the two I'm really struggling with, and Herbert will be dependent on if he has any wide receivers healthy or not. I'll move Herbert back ahead of him if he gets even one of his guys back. But right now I have Wilson ahead of Herbert.

I think you look at last week's game, you've got to feel comfortable about Russ Wilson a little bit. You know, 31 of 37, should have had three touchdowns. If Joe ever catches the ball that bounced off his hands, it'll lead to an interception. So he threw the ball much better last week. Again, I think this is, you know, they're getting right. And you've got to love Pete Carroll thinking that they're still alive

for a playoff spot, and technically they are. But I think, you know, Russell Wilson is going to be the catalyst of this offense. There's not going to be Penny and peterson and collins and that group would you start dk metcalf or chase claypool tonight metcalf just throw it out there just so you can say metcalf dk metcalf or kj osborne metcalf metcalf yeah you're you're way off of where metcalf is. Darnell Mooney or DK Metcalf? You're closer. Still Metcalf. I'm still going Metcalf.

Okay. Fine. How about Amari Cooper or Metcalf? I actually like Amari Cooper this week, so I will start Cooper over him. I'll go Cooper over Metcalf. Cooper has an unreal history against Washington. Yeah.

Good to know. And Gerald Everett. Did he crack your top 15? He did. It's so hard to say what's going to happen there because he had one of the worst games I've ever seen for an NFL player. And will they stick with him or will they go to Will Disley

or will they just go away from their tight ends in general? But if he's still involved, you've seen the targets the last month, you've seen the production two of the last four, and they're begging for a third guy to step up. It could be his week, it could be Swain's week, it could be Eskridge's week, it could be Disley's week, but somebody's got to help Russell Wilson.

And I still think Everett's been good enough that they'll stick with him. Yeah, he's been the guy I've been recommending for the Waller managers who want to wait it out and they have like a thursday guy if you he's unfortunate that waller outscored him last week in full ppr i think they were the same at zero but it is really not an exaggeration to say that gerald everett had one of the worst non-quarterback games that we've ever seen you know two fumbles and a drop that turned

into an interception. All of them, at least, I think both fumbles were inside the 10. The interception was in the end zone. An unbelievably bad game. If you just watched Gerald Everett highlights and knew nothing else about the game, you would think that the Seahawks lost that game by three times.

Brandon Cooks, yeah, so he's struggling real bad lately. Seattle has allowed one touchdown to a wide receiver in their last eight games, I want to say now.

None in the last five and only seven for the season. Yeah, they got off to a terrible start. One in their last eight games was to Jamal Agnew. They've been great against Chase Claypool.

Pretty good against Devontae Adams. Terry McLaurin had 51 yards. Ayuk had 55 yards. So it's a bad matchup, it looks like, although no Jamal Adams for the first time this year. So Brandon Cooks behind Metcalf, I assume. Yes.

So funny because I do have him behind Metcalf and he has been struggling. He's been so much better than DK Metcalf over the past month. Is that because like he had one good game maybe though, which is more than Metcalf. I think the thing for cooks is Davis Mills might be better for him, you know, and he might start, you know,

so we don't know yet what's going to happen because to Rod Taylor is dealing with this wrist injury. If I'm the Texas, I don't know why you're playing Terod Taylor at this point anymore. You know, they're, they're obviously in the market for quarterback next year once they move on from Deshaun Watson,

but is Davis Mills the guy and you got to figure that out. You know, I don't think he is, but you never know. And they should just play him the rest of the season. Yeah. He's been actually in terms of just passing production, been all right.

And three of his last four games, Davis Mills. And what you've gotten this clue that davis mills is the only quarterback only rookie quarterback to throw for 300 yards and three touchdowns against bill belichick's patriots yes i would have because i do think that that game that performance is one of the most outlier performances of the year. One of the most shocking performances of the year. Davis Mills lighting up the Patriots. It was insane.

And Brandon Cooks had a little involvement in it, too. Right, he had such a bad game. KJ Osborne or Brandon Cooks? That's a great question. I'll stick with Cooks there, but they're very close. Let's go to the Saints and the Jets. By the way, Seattle's DST, 66% rostered. They are top four.

Saints at the Jets. Saints or Seattle DST? Seattle. Okay. Sure. Sure. Both great options. We love Taysom Hill.

He's top 12. He's top 10 for Heath and Jamie. Kamara is easy. Any interest in Traquan Smith or Marquez Calloway with Deontay Harris out? Deontay Harris was averaging six targets per game in his last six. Did they cut Kenny Stills as well? Yes. They did. I've got a little interest in Traquan.

I think I have to start him. But it might be Callaway. I'm worried about 20 pass attempts. But where are they going? That's the question. 19 to Traquan Smith, hopefully. Yeah, I don't mind Traquan. He's my favorite of the Saints receivers.

I think if you are really desperate, Nick Finette as a streaming tight end. Callaway, wouldn't be surprised if he found the end receivers. I think if you are really desperate, Nick Finette as a streaming tight end. Callaway, wouldn't be surprised if he found the end zone. They'll get production somewhere. I mean, this Jets defense is not good. So, it's not going to be all Taysom running the ball, and Kamara running the ball,

but it'll be a lot of that. I do love the 30 through 48 range and the names that we've got in there this week. Traquan Smith, Marquez Valdez, Scantling, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Amun Ross, St. Brown. I've got all these names. It's fantastic.

Abbreviations. Yeah, a lot of long names there. Would you start Jamison Crowder or Traquan Smith? I will start Traquan as of now. If Elijah Moore is out, I will start Crowder. Is there any scenario in which you're starting Tevin Coleman if he clears the concussion protocol? Zero.

I will like Ty Johnson, though, if Tevin Coleman is out as a flex. Yeah. Are they going to give him any carries? Yeah. Why not Austin Walter? Well, I mean, yeah, I think they're both in the same range. That's the problem. I wish that they would just give Ty Johnson 12 carries

and the passing game work, and then we could kind of like Ty Johnson, but it doesn't seem like he can hardly get more than five or six. It'd be Walter and Ty Johnson in the RB30 range. I think Johnson had four targets last week, but I do not believe he's had more than two catches in any game with Zach Wilson. Wilson did throw to his running backs

quite a bit more last week. It was just spread out amongst three of them. Yeah, Coleman had three catches. Elijah Moore's top 14 for Jamie and Heath, so we don't have to spend too much time on that. Start Elijah Moore, and that's pretty much it. Although I did mention that the Saints give up the fifth most wide receivers to slots,

fifth most yards to slot wide receivers. So Crowder's not terrible. And there you go. That's it for the AFC home games, except we didn't get to Giants Chargers, which will be tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. We will see you at two o'clock Eastern here for a Q&A. Thanks for watching this marathon episode of FFT

for Jamie and Heath and Shraggy B. I'm Adam. Good luck tonight. See you.