Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Titans RBs, Bengals RBs, Texans WRs and More! (09/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Week 1 is here! Let's preview it with players we love (2:30) and players to avoid (4:35). Get Jared Goff in your lineup, but maybe avoid D.J. Moore. We'll also update you on the news and notes (8:15) ...... One Question for Each Game (16:30)! Do we trust the Titans RBs or D'Andre Swift? Is Dak Prescott a start this week? How many Texans wide receivers are we starting over Michael Pittman? Start or Sit Josh Palmer? Rhamondre Stevenson? ... Start or Sit for Titans-Bears (21:10), Cowboys-Browns (28:35), Texans-Colts (38:30), Raiders-Chargers (43:35), Patriots-Bengals (48:00), Jaguars-Dolphins (51:55) and Cardinals-Bills (56:50) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:39 I had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. In less than 12 hours, football begins. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And tonight, Chiefs and Ravens will kick things off. Okay, Heath, is this boring to you? Like, yeah, we're just going to win another Super Bowl. What's the point kind of situation? No, I'm really torn in between, like, the idea that the Ravens, like, trying to prepare myself that the Ravens are obviously going to win tonight. They've had two more weeks of extra rest. Like, it's September.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I had to think about that. Or also thinking, you know, the Chiefs might go 20-0. So I'm just kind of going back and forth. I like that. I like that. All right. It is Chiefs-Ravens tonight. Yesterday we previewed Chiefs-Ravens and Packers-Eagles.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So if you want those games, that's on yesterday's show. Jamie with the week one haircut looking good my friend hello thank you yeah you ready you ready to rock and roll um i told uh kelly who cuts my hair and used to cut your hair about your um attempt to shave the line in your head and she was very embarrassed for you i'm not embarrassed as I am. I was with some adults yesterday at soccer and had to be like, this was for charity. Had to do it. Sorry. But it's growing back.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Anyway, today we're going to talk about Tennessee at Chicago. Why are we talking about that game? Is that game in Chicago or in Tennessee? Mid-season form. Wow. Oh, I know why. No, I know why. Because there was an imbalance between the AFC
Starting point is 00:03:26 home games and the NFC home games. So I took an AFC team in an NFC home game. Tennessee at Chicago, Dallas at Cleveland, Houston at Indianapolis, Las Vegas at the Chargers, New England at Cincinnati, Jacksonville at Miami, and Arizona at Buffalo. Some interesting players we'll talk about today. The Bears running backs, the Titans running backs, the Bengals running backs, basically all the running backs. Ramond Dre Stevenson, what could be a pretty good matchup for him. Josh Palmer with DJ Chark questionable. We'll talk about it all, but let's start with some players we love. And Jamie, who is our first start of the week? Jared Goff. Two of my favorite narratives for Jared Goff. First, you get the home Jared Goff, which is fantastic. His last 21 games in Detroit, 16 of which he's been above 20 fantasy points. So pretty solid
Starting point is 00:04:16 track record there for him. You have no Aaron Donald, no Ernest Jones, no Raheem Morris. So a lot of changes in this Rams defense and then you get the revenge game narrative so the last time he played them was the first season with Detroit which was 2021 he was bad 13 fantasy points in Los Angeles but now he's going to light them up so very excited about uh this game it's the highest point total of highest expected point total of the week based on what Las Vegas has told us I think it's still the highest at least that's my check 51 um so looking forward to seeing Jared Goff golf light up this Rams defense. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Give me like two or three quarterbacks. You'd start him over. Oh, he's top five for me. So I have a tough decision in one league where I have golf and Anthony Richardson. I'm going to start golf. I would start him over Joe Burrow over CJ Stroud over.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I mean, basically the top four quarterbacks that we were drafting. Those are the only ones I would start over. Okay. Fair enough. Heath, who do you love this week? No, I mean, basically the top four quarterbacks that we were drafting, those are the only ones I would start over. Okay, fair enough. Heath, who do you love this week? No, first off, I agree completely with Jared Goff. I'm going to give two. It's week one.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm excited. A couple of running backs who were outside of my top 30 in redraft rankings and inside of my top 20 in week one rankings. I'm the high guy on both Chuba Hubbard and Jerome Ford. Obviously, the reason they were outside the top 30 in redraft rankings is because Jonathan Brooks, Nick Chubb coming back at some point, but I think both these guys are going to be pretty close to workhorse backs to open the season. I expect 16, 17, 18 plus touches for both Hubbard and Ford on a weekly
Starting point is 00:05:40 basis. I think you can count on them as RB twos until their backfield mates return. Okay. We'll talk more about Jerome Ford against the Dallas Cowboys who had a good defense last year, but not a very good run defense. And they didn't really change, change coordinators, but they didn't change their personnel all that much players to avoid Heath. You can start who's a player we're sitting this week. Can I just give like a handful of quarterbacks that not only would I start the start of the week, but I don't want to start them at all? Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I don't want to start any of those quarterbacks. That San Francisco Jets game on Monday night, I don't want to be waiting for my quarterback on Monday Night Football on week one. Go ahead and start somebody else. I'd start Baker Mayfield and Geno Smith over almost all of those guys. Okay. Jamie, how about you? A player to avoid? DJ Moore
Starting point is 00:06:33 if you can. I think we're going to see a pretty improved Titans defense with Legereus Need and Awuzie and Quadre Diggs in the back end of that secondary. I hope Jamal Adams does not play because that would probably be a plus for offenses. New defense coordinator
Starting point is 00:06:50 as well, Denard Wilson, coming over from Baltimore. They were miserable last year. I believe the sixth most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers. This is not going to be fun for a lot of opposing receiving course. We know DJ Moore is going to share with Keenan Allen and
Starting point is 00:07:05 Romo Dunze. So target share could be an issue here. So I would try to avoid him if he can. Three receiver leagues are starting him without question. But two receiver leagues, I think he's a sit. Yeah, I actually watched every snap of DJ Moore against the Chiefs last year this morning. I watched this
Starting point is 00:07:21 against LeJarius Sneed who shadowed him, and he had no catches on three... No, I think he had one catch for three yards on four targets or something like that against LeJarrius Sneed. Yeah, one catch for three yards on four targets. He did have
Starting point is 00:07:38 a couple plays where he had chances for deep balls. He dropped a deep ball. It was kind of a tough catch. And then he beat Sneed on a deep route, but Fields made a terrible throw. But yeah, Snead took him out of the picture. DJ Moore then had like 38 yards and a touchdown in garbage time. The score was 41-3 at that point against backup cornerback. So I don't know if they're going to shadow DJ Moore with a Jerry Snead, but last year Snead absolutely dominated in that matchup for what that's worth. Better quarterback this year for Moore. I will say that. Here's my stat of the game for that game. I have four stats of the game. I'm very interested in that game. This is from
Starting point is 00:08:15 CBSSports.com. The last 15 quarterbacks to be selected number one overall are 0-14-1 in their first career start wow yeah well and they're favorite that makes sense yeah the team did have the number one pick for some reason but that's different right because the bears didn't earn this number one pick the bears are they had carolina's pick they're actually favored in this game right i think like three point
Starting point is 00:08:40 favorites four maybe four last time i saw. And yeah, three and a half according to what I'm looking at. So that's kind of interesting. Caleb Williams is trying to buck the trend for sure. We have an exciting Sunday morning opportunity for you to get your start, sit questions answered. Join us live at 1130 a.m. Eastern until kickoff. Kickoff for the one o'clock games.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I don't think we're going to do the 4 o'clock. No, kickoff 1130 to 1 Eastern. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. We're going to have a live stream every Sunday morning. We want thousands of you to be there with us answering. We're going to answer your start to sit questions. It's not like a very produced show. It's not segments and this and that. It's really just a Q&A. So we're going to answer tons and tons of questions.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And we're going to have a good time. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. That's going to be me, Dave and Heath for the most part, every Sunday morning, 1130 to 1 p.m. Eastern. One more time, YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. And you can see all of our content at that website, news and notes, Joe Burrow on the injury report with the wrist. He's going to play. You think this was just procedural or any alarm bells for Burrow? I think procedural. I mean, you saw a video of him throwing to Jamar chase yesterday, which was the best news of all. So, um, you know, look, we heard from our buddy, Marty, our, our fantasy doctor that joined us a couple of times this off season that So, you know, look, we heard from our buddy Marty, our fantasy doctor that joined us a couple times this offseason,
Starting point is 00:10:10 that it's probably something that was going to linger for a while and, you know, may have some soreness, may have some issues. But if he's playing through it, I think you've got to start him unless you just have an overwhelmingly great replacement option. And he's getting chased back, so that's fantastic. He is getting chased. Is he definitely getting chased back. So that's fantastic. He is getting chased. Is he definitely getting chased back this week? I would be surprised if Chase is practicing and doesn't play. He may not be his full allotment of snaps, but if Jamar Chase is out there, I'm starting Joe Burrow, especially against the Patriots. Yeah. As you said, especially against the Patriots,
Starting point is 00:10:39 are you expecting the Patriots defense to not be so good? Well, I mean, they're down arguably the two best, you know, defensive players up front from a year ago with Judon and Barmore. So is the secondary that good? Is Gerard Mayo that good? You know, is he going to create that much magic with what he has? You know, I don't think so. I think that's one of the questions I want to have answered in week one. How bad are the Patriots? Yep. And look, barmore played like four games
Starting point is 00:11:06 last year right so um no judon judon played like four games last year he's on the falcons now barmore is a big loss i don't know about for their past defense but for their run defense for sure uh kyle pitts people were people were oh man twitter went nuts kyle pitts has his hamstring issue but it's from a couple of weeks ago. What's the deal? Right. Like, it sounds like maybe it was just a rest day. Like, I'm not sure that the Kyle Pitts sky is falling. What about the Justin Herbert sky? He says he's 100%. His foot's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He even said it wasn't plantar fasciitis, right? So what's going on with Justin Herbert? I'm not sure but i i think the the bigger thing is we're going to find out how much or how little he's going to throw the ball so if you know i have him in a in a super flex league i'm perfectly fine starting him there in a one quarterback league i can't imagine many people are confident starting justin herbert which is sad to say but that's just the nature of i think the Chargers offense and where we are. Yeah, and the other thing is that Daniel Popper,
Starting point is 00:12:10 who we cite a lot from The Athletic, he gives a really good, you know, he doesn't specifically write fantasy columns, but good fantasy notes in his columns about the Chargers. He said J.K. Dobbins had a great camp, was explosive. So we'll see. It's Dobbins and Herbert versus the Raiders this week. Could be a very good defense.
Starting point is 00:12:28 We'll see. But DJ Chark mispracticed with a hip injury. Chargers receiver DJ Chark. So we'll keep an eye on him. Todd Bowles was asked about his run. I hope Quentin Johnson just comes out and has a huge game. That'd be fun. Oh, not with all the Josh Palmer I have.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Well, I mean, they both can coexist. You know, wouldn't it just be fun? Look, look, I'm sure there's a lot of Gus Edwards, J.K. Dobbins truthers out there. Wouldn't it be fun if Justin Herbert just comes out and throws the ball 45 times? Just, hey, sorry, we fooled you. Yes, it would. Todd Bowles was asked about his running backs, and he said, normally you go with the hot hand at running back. But since nobody has played yet, Rashad White obviously starts,
Starting point is 00:13:07 and then we'll kind of go from there. Okay. Tennessee wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins is questionable, but starting to look like he's going to play. We have him ranked outside the top 40, DeAndre Hopkins, this week against the Bears. Buffalo wide receiver Curtis Samuel practiced in full, so he should play.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Jordan Addison and Jalen Naylor, the two and three wide receivers for the Vikings, they both have ankle injuries, but Addison, they're optimistic about him playing. I would assume Naylor as well, but Addison optimistic about him playing against the Giants. I did say they said Naylor was a couple of days behind Addison, so I don't know. Okay. Thank you then. And it's funny with Addison. We'll talk about this game tomorrow, but nobody drafted him to be a starter. No one wants to trust him,
Starting point is 00:13:47 but this might be the best matchup he has all year. The Giants secondary is just terrible. I will say this. If he comes out and has a good game with TJ Hawkinson out for who knows how many more weeks, you can either, okay, now I have something because of where you were able to draft him
Starting point is 00:14:04 or you try and flip them. Miami cornerback, Jalen Ramsey's on the injury report with a hamstring injury. That's a big one. We'll keep an eye on Jalen Ramsey against the Jaguars. The Broncos signed Patrick Sertan. Their star status yesterday.
Starting point is 00:14:18 No, no, I don't look it up. I'm going to guess limited. Patrick Sertan contract extension for the Broncos, Tyler Lockett, Noah fan. We're limited in practice. Looks like they're going to guess limited. Patrick Sertan contract extension for the Broncos. Tyler Lockett and Noah Fant were limited in practice. Looks like they're going to play. Jerry Judy practiced in full.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And Pittsburgh updates. Roman Wilson, their rookie wide receiver, he was limited in practice. Jalen Warren was limited. We're expecting him to play. And guard Isaac Sayamalo is out for week one at Atlanta. Heath, do we have a Jalen Phillips update? Looks like he was not a participant. It says Achilles slash vet rest.
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Starting point is 00:16:34 just to get the most important topic out there. We kind of cover it quickly. And also, you should reference the time codes in the episode description. Now, I'll say this. The time codes, I do try a little bit to account for commercial breaks, but the time codes
Starting point is 00:16:49 are definitely not exact. They're not all that close, unfortunately, because I don't know how long the commercial breaks are, but they should be within two minutes, I'd say, of the segment.
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Starting point is 00:17:09 time is limited. So with that said, one question for each game. Tennessee at Chicago, do you trust any running back in this game? Looks like we have two pretty good, very good run defenses here. Do you trust any running back in Tennessee at Chicago? Not trust. Pollard is a low-end RB2, maybe even mid-range RB2. DeAndre Swift is a flex. So is Pollard your favorite running back in this game? Yes. Jamie, yes?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yes, slightly above Swift, but once I adjust my rankings, all of them will be outside the top 24. Are you going to put a time code in for explaining time codes? Well, no. I explained it because I don't know that people are actually aware that there are time codes. But also, I needed to say that they're very inexact because of this.
Starting point is 00:17:55 What if somebody did know that there were time codes and they were looking and wondering when you explained whether you put factored ads into the time codes? No, I didn't put that in there. I think that the running backs, we talked about the top 17 or top 18 running put factored ads into the time codes. No, I didn't put that in there. Yes. I think that the running backs, you know, we talked about the top 17 or top 18 running backs, whatever it was. I think the running backs drafted after that are going to be maybe every week,
Starting point is 00:18:14 but certainly this week going to be the toughest start or sit decisions for fantasy managers. Well, there are a couple like for me that I was not thrilled about, mostly because of their age. When James Conner and Aaron Jones are healthy and don't have scary matchups, you're starting them.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. Dallas is at Cleveland. How many players are you confidently starting in Dallas and Cleveland? CeeDee Lamb, Jake Ferguson. Cooper? Not confidently, but yeah starting okay and maybe jerome fort but he's in that flex range i'd put ford in the conversation and like if david like no joke is my only tight end i'm not looking for anybody else i'm just starting him but not But not Dak Prescott. We're not confidently starting Dak Prescott. He's not a top 12 quarterback. I would say Prescott and Najoku fall in the same category of
Starting point is 00:19:10 I'm not looking to replace them, per se, but I'm not starting them with confidence. Houston at Indianapolis, how many Houston-wide receivers are you starting over Michael Pittman, who combined for 100 yards in two games against the Texans last year? On 20 targets. Wow. No, 18 targets.
Starting point is 00:19:29 12 and 6, yeah, 18 targets. I would start all three of them over Michael Pittman. In full PPR, I would start none of them over Michael Pittman. Oh, wow. In half PPR, I would start two of them over Michael Pittman. Okay. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'm looking forward to breaking down that game. Las Vegas is at the Chargers. Start or sit Josh Palmer? Start in three receiver leagues. Sit. Like Josh Palmer versus Tony Pollard and DeAndre Swift. What are we doing? Start the running backs.
Starting point is 00:20:01 It's tough. I probably would still start the running backs because I'm chicken, but I think Palmer has a better day in PPR. New England's at Cincinnati. You feeling Ramondre Stevenson? He's in that same canoe of running backs.
Starting point is 00:20:19 It's a big canoe. Yeah. High influx. A yacht. Yeah. Is he better than Pollard and Swift? I'll keep going back to them. Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I would go Pollard, Stevenson, Swift. I would go Chuba, Ford, Pollard, Swift, Stevenson. Okay. Yeah, I mean, my argument would be Bengals were bad against the run. They allowed 4.58 yards per carry to running backs last year, and they lost DJ Reeder, who's now on the Lions but injured. My question is, is Antonio Gibson the passing downs back, and are they down by 21 points in the second quarter?
Starting point is 00:21:00 That's a great point. Gibson, yeah, I mean, Stevenson hasn't really been the passing downs back, you know, that much. I don't think so, really. He's not really a third down guy, but they threw to their running backs all the time. We don't think that's going to happen as much this year. Jacksonville's at Miami.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Who's a better flex in a half PPR league, Christian Kirk or Raheem Mostert? Mostert. Yeah. Mostert. Yeah. Mostert. Okay. Arizona at Buffalo. How many wide receivers are worth starting in this game?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Arizona and Buffalo. One. Okay. Well, two in three receiver leagues. I think I only have one in my top 48. I did such a bad job in my auction the other day because I was the auctioneer that I didn't even realize
Starting point is 00:21:48 that Keon Coleman never got nominated. I could have gotten him with any of my when you get to $1 bids. I just didn't get him. I took the worst players in the world instead of Keon. I'm so mad at myself. Can you pick him up on waivers? I had the first nomination, so I had the 12th waiver wire priority, and he went
Starting point is 00:22:05 to someone else. Wow. Yep. You may get another chance at him. Tennessee's at Chicago. Here we go. Loving this matchup of Chicago's trio of wide receivers and Tennessee. Jamie already mentioned all the names that they've added. LeJarius Sneed,
Starting point is 00:22:22 Chidobie Awuzie, Condre Diggs, and Jamal Adams, and a new defensive coordinator. It is possible, right, just to throw this out there, Jamie, that. LeJarius Sneed, Chidobe Awuzie, Quandre Diggs, and Jamal Adams, and a new defensive coordinator. It is possible, right, just to throw this out there, Jamie, that only LeJarius Sneed is any good in that group of four. I mean, you already said Jamal Adams. He is what he is.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I don't know about Diggs. Awuzie, apparently, his grades weren't good last year. His coverage, I don't know about his school, but his coverage grades. So, you know, it might just be names. I don't know if it's going to be a good secondary. is correct well sneed's going to be good i mean look i don't think he's um leaving the magic of kansas city and falling apart could happen but i don't expect
Starting point is 00:22:55 that to be the case uh so but it's better than what they had and you're talking about you know wilson coming from a ravens defense that led the nfl interception if i'm not mistaken compared to a titans defense that was miserable and turning the ball over so you know they're going to play i was reading a story this morning you know they're going to do a lot more press coverage which will help you know in creating some you know havoc back there and so i just look at it, rookie quarterback, first NFL start against a defense that I think is going to surprise some people with a very good corner taking on, uh, a good number one wide receiver, but I think can, you know, limit his production in terms of more.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And I don't think anybody is rushing to start Keenan Allen or Roma Dunze this week. So Caleb Williams, not a must-start guy by any stretch. And DJ Moore for me is a number three receiver. Heath, I'm going to look at this comment here. I don't know if this is true, but I trust it. You would know, probably. Why is Chicago the seventh highest implied team total this week? That seems optimistic.
Starting point is 00:24:01 That is something that Jacob Gibbs talked about a lot this summer, that just looking at their numbers, he was higher on the Bears' offense because Vegas was higher on the bears offense because vegas was higher on the bears offense um i agree that that seems optimistic i think that vegas is very optimistic about caleb williams and the bears offense i and like it's tough to know how much these new corners matter you would have thought just looking based at last year's numbers, that this is a pretty great matchup. Yeah. And they had, they had Jamie mentioned they had the fewest interceptions in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:24:32 They had six that, that should turn. I mean, those are kind of fluky stats, but they also lost the Nico Autry who led their team in, in pressures last season, according to sharp football analysis. So this is a really interesting game could go in any direction.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Heath, do you have confidence in any of the Bears receivers? I was just trying to think of who I have confidence in, period, in this game. Like Tony Pollard is just inside. I think he's RB 19 or 20 for me. And Calvin Ridley's ahead of DJ Moore for me. So those might be my two most confident plays.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I have DeAndre Swift just outside of the top 24 running backs. DJ Moore is just outside of the top 24 wide receivers. Caleb Williams is not a top 12 quarterback. I'm not in lockstep with Vegas as much, but part of that's because we don't know what the split's going to be like between the wide receivers. If we come out of this game and two of these guys are 20 plus percent target share, we're going to
Starting point is 00:25:27 feel more confident starting them next week. It's just we don't know which two it will be. And here's a stat that's kind of interesting. Another stat of the game, number two. So the Bears had a great run defense. They saw the fourth fewest running back rush attempts in the NFL. Only three running backs all
Starting point is 00:25:43 season had more than 15 carries against the Bears. That's wild. But the Bears were also really good against wide receivers. One of the reasons why might be they were so bad against running backs in the passing game. They allowed 59 receiving yards per game to running backs, which was by far the most in the NFL. 14.6 yards per game more receiving to running backs,
Starting point is 00:26:03 receiving yards per game more to running backs, than number two, which was the Chargers. I look back, I mean... Second most receptions, right? Behind Jacksonville? Very possible. I'm sure. I'm sure they were up there.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I look back at this stat, like who, you know, teams that are giving up the most receiving yards. It's a little bit fluid. It's fluid. But there are teams that stay there, you know? And they don't have a new scheme. I don't think they have a new scheme or anything.
Starting point is 00:26:23 So I wonder how that factors in for Spears and Pollard. They both should be in the mix for catches. I think it comes down to look week one is always tricky because you drafted certain guys to be starters for your team and how many people have that quality of players on their bench that are going to, you know, be worth starting. So, you know, there are people that drafted Rashi rice late that could be starting over
Starting point is 00:26:50 some people, you know, we could have situations where, you know, you got lucky with running back X or whatever. But I think in terms of like the, the Titans running backs and even Deandre Swift, like if you went here,
Starting point is 00:27:02 RB zero RB, you know, and they're your RB two, you're RB2, you're probably just starting them and hoping for the best. You'd start Rasheed Rice over everyone in this game, basically? Oh, that's not close.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, for sure. He was drafted behind DJ Moore for most of the year. Ridley's in a tough spot. Moore's in a tough spot. The other two Bears receivers are tough to trust. You can't play DeAndre Hopkins
Starting point is 00:27:22 coming off the injury if he starts. It's a really wild card game two bears receivers are tough to trust. You can't play Deandre Hopkins coming off the injury. Like if he, if he starts like there's just, it's a really sort of a wild card game because you have, you know, a whole new offense in play for Chicago and you have basically a whole new everything in play for Tennessee. So I think we're going to be surprised one way or the other. Like if the Titans defense comes out and like shuts down this passing game,
Starting point is 00:27:41 it's going to be a, whoa. Okay. Can't play against them. Or will it be panic on Caleb Williams? I don't think so. I mean, you know, based on what Adam said, you know, rookie quarterbacks clearly struggle in their first couple of starts.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah. Go look at Stroud last year. It was against the Ravens, but he wasn't great. Yeah. It's a great point. Calvin Ridley or Deontay Johnson. I'll read some questions from the chat if they're relevant to this this game calvin ridley or deontay johnson ppr both are sits for me but i would lean ridley slightly i would go ridley and ridley's a start
Starting point is 00:28:14 for me right now if deandre gets a full practice in then he probably moves into that wide receiver three range two fair actually only four wide receivers had more than 69 yards against the bears last year only seven wide receivers had more than 69 yards against the bears last year only seven wide receivers had more than eight targets because they like i said they just threw to running backs against the bears and the bears jalen johnson's really good yes he is they also added safety kevin byard and they were sixth in points per game allowed from weeks 9 through 18 10th and yards per game 15th and yards per play that was after they traded for montez sweat all right i think we're done here.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You're sitting the quarterbacks. I have to start Caleb Williams in a couple leagues, but I'm thrilled about it. We talked about the running backs. Pollard's like RB20-ish. Ridley, going to be a number three receiver for everyone if Hopkins plays. Right now, he's a low-end number two receiver for Heath.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I want to clarify, not if Hopkins plays. If Hopkins is a full go at some point. If Hopkins is going to go out there at 60%, then I'm still starting Ridley. Sid Okonkwo, DeAndre Swift is a little bit behind Tony Pollard, but he's in the RB2 slash flex conversation. We'll start comparing him to other players. We already talked about the Chicago wide receivers at nausea, ad nauseum. And the Bears DST is 12th for Jamie, 16th for Dave, 15th for Heath. We go to Dallas at Cleveland. Cleveland's defense, number one in yards per play.
Starting point is 00:29:34 They gave up points, but number one in yards per play. They were the best third down defense. They were terrible in the red zone, though. They allowed touchdowns on 71.4% of red zone trips, the worst red zone defense in football last year, the Cleveland Browns. That's wild. Dallas is defense fifth in scoring last year,
Starting point is 00:29:49 but lost Dan Quinn. Okay. So you said you guys both have Dak Prescott 14. I think one thing we just keep saying this and I'm guilty of it too. Mike Zimmer is pretty good. He is. He's kind of at this point. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I mean, he's older, obviously like as a coordinator though, he's older, obviously. As a coordinator, though, he was always very successful. Very. And, you know, again, Jimmy's in Joe's and X's and O's. Like, we'll see if he's got the players, which he does, you know, to make it work. Is he Dan Quinn?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Probably not. But it's not like they just went to, you know, Joe Schmoe off the street. And I think, like, it's something to keep in mind for everybody except for CeeDee Lamb because nobody cares. But the Cowboys have an implied total in this game of 19.5. Wow. And there were two or three teams that scored, I think it was two of nine, scored more than 20 points in Cleveland last year. Yeah, they were a lot better at home than on the road defensively. Let me just see Rico Dowdle's roster percentage.
Starting point is 00:30:49 He's 89% rostered. Right now, Rico Dowdle's 6% started. People haven't set their rosters, but he's not going to be started. Just don't do it, right? He's not going to be started by the Cowboys. Yeah, don't start either one, right? Zeke or Dowdle?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Right. But this was the weakness for both of these teams last year. Their run defenses were their weaknesses. So as good as they were, they were not great against the run. They were better against the pass.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I don't want to. I would start Zeke over Dowdle if I had juice. I don't want to overcomplicate this game. I mean, I feel like the toughest call here is Dak because people drafted him obviously to be a starter.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh yeah, Cooper too. All right, let's talk about Dak and Cooper. Well, Ford also. I mean... Okay. Let's overcomplicate. And Ferguson. Well, that's the thing about Ferguson and Njoku. Even if you don't like their matchups, you're not streaming someone over them.
Starting point is 00:31:36 We already said that, right? Most likely, no. Okay. I'm starting Ferguson. So, Len, let's go to... The Titans got targets against the Browns last year. They did well. Yeah. They gave up the seventh fewest fantasy points
Starting point is 00:31:52 to tight ends, but the good ones did pretty well. I believe it was seven tight ends had at least five targets against the Browns, and four of them scored at least 13 points. Nice. Dak Prescott. Any streamers you'd start over him? No. If you consider Goff a streamer. Would you start Tua over him?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I would start Tua and Trevor both over him. 100% agree with that. Tua and Trevor Lawrence over him. You know, I was looking at secondary rankings from PFF. They do their preseason rank list and sharp football analysis. Both of them had the Dolphins top five. PFF had the Dolphins secondary fifth, and sharp football had them third. Obviously, Ramsey needs to play.
Starting point is 00:32:34 But just saying for Trevor Lawrence. Just saying. It's not just the secondary, though. The pass rush is not going to be the same. You have Wilkins missing in the middle. You have Phillips potentially out. You have Bradley Chubb definitely out. Like you could talk all you want to about chop Robinson and how good he can
Starting point is 00:32:49 potentially be as a rookie, but that front is not going to allow the secondary to cover for as long as they will. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. So start Lawrence and Tua over Dak Prescott, sit the running back,
Starting point is 00:33:01 start CD lamb. Don't start Brandon cook, start Jake Ferguson, sit to Sean Watson. Although obviously this is a guy I'm very interested in seeing here. over Dak Prescott, sit the running back, start CeeDee Lamb, don't start Brandon Cook, start Jake Ferguson, sit Deshaun Watson, although obviously this is a guy I'm very interested in seeing here. He averaged a little more than 20 fantasy points per game in his five healthy starts. So yeah, Jerome Ford, big difference in the rankings.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Jamie's got him 28th. He will move up for me. I need to adjust it. Okay, Heath has him 14th in PPR, 10th in non-PPR. 18th. Okay, it was the case. This happensPR, 10th in non-PPR. 18th. Okay. It was the case. This happens when I preview a game early in the week. The rankings get updated.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So you settled on him at 18th, Jerome Ford, in PPR. Go ahead. Make your case here. I just don't think like Deontay Foreman or Pierre Strong are going to see more than five to eight touches in this game. I think the better way to attack this Dallas defense is on the ground. And he is a running back on a home team that is a favorite. That's generally a good recipe. And Ford was very good when he was the full-time starting running back last year. Yeah, probably around 18th per game, something
Starting point is 00:34:02 like that. And Jamie, where do you think you'll get on Jerome Ford? He'll be somewhere between 20 and 24. Okay, so he's a low-end starter. Amari Cooper or Jerome Ford? Ford. Ford for sure in half PPR, in full PPR. I've got 13.3 on the projection for Cooper, and I've got 13.9 for the projection for Cooper, and I've got 13.9 for Ford.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So Ford and everything. Yeah, it's hard to really look at this Cowboys matchup from last year, because Diggs tore his ACL early in the year, but now Deron Bland is out. Bland had five pick sixes last year, six pick whatever it was, set a record. Cooper was unstoppable last season,
Starting point is 00:34:43 unless it was Dorian Thompson-Robinson, quarterback. All right. You guys heard it. He's a flex? Cooper? Yeah. Must start guy in three receiver leagues. Borderline starter in two receiver leagues. I just think Ford might have a higher ceiling. He is one spot
Starting point is 00:34:59 ahead. We were talking about DJ Moore. He's one spot ahead for me, but they're like.02 points difference in the projections. Basically tied about DJ Moore. He's one spot ahead for me, but they're like.02 points difference in the projections. So basically tied with DJ Moore. Very high-end wide receiver three. I would start him over Moore. I would start him over Pittman too. You wouldn't start any...
Starting point is 00:35:16 Are there any receivers who were drafted after Cooper that you'd start over him? Would you start Christian Kirk over Cooper? Yes. Would you start... I know it's going to sound crazy, but just because he's paired with your start of the week, Jamison Williams?
Starting point is 00:35:30 No, I wouldn't do that. But I would start Godwin over him, who was drafted after Cooper. I would start Kirk over him. And if you're looking for the most upside, I might consider Christian Watson. I mean, technically, Rushie Rice was drafted after him, right?
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah. Yes. I'd start him over him for sure. Tank Dell? You and your technicalities. Tank Dell, right? Yeah, same time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Dell or Cooper? Dell. All right. Would you start the DSTs in this game? This is one of those situations like we talked about yesterday. If I drafted the Ravens, I'm not dropping them. I don't want to carry two DSTs. So, yes, look, it's a low point total.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Look, the Browns should do well. You've got the Cowboys with two new offensive linemen, so Miles Garrett may have a field day. And we know Dak can be turnover prone at times in his career. And Watson still, to me, he's got to prove it. Like shoulder soreness as early as two weeks ago recently as two weeks ago like that's not encouraging and some of the most hilarious terrible throws in his limited action in cleveland so like he might just hand them a pick six uh yeah
Starting point is 00:36:36 and good news for the browns jack conklin and jedrick wills their tackles they were both limited in practice coming off injuries. All right, we're going to take a break here. And when we come back, Houston at Indianapolis, a big game in the AFC South. We'll be right back on FFT. As we learned from our email yesterday and from that promo that anyone watching on YouTube just saw, this podcast can actually help get you out of traffic situations.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's true. Good stuff. Houston at the Colts. The drafts were great last night. Absolutely fantastic. Oh, good stuff, man. Three 16-team leagues run by Jamie. That is...
Starting point is 00:37:11 With three overlapping drafts. World-class stuff. Stat of the game number one, the Colts allowed the fewest receiving yards to wide receivers out of the slot in 2023. I hesitate to say slot receivers. It's just wide receivers who were lined up in the slot. The Colts, their best cornerback is Kenny Moore. He to say slot receivers. It's just wide receivers who are lined up in the slot.
Starting point is 00:37:26 The Colts, their best cornerback is Kenny Moore. He's a slot corner. Does that have an impact in this game? I mean, is it like, like Tank Dell lit them up last year in the one game he played, but he only played 20% of his snaps
Starting point is 00:37:37 from the slot. Do we know how that's going to shake out for the Texans? And does that matter at all? If there is a bad mashup against the Colts, it's slot receiver. I think that they like, I know that Tank Dale mostly played
Starting point is 00:37:49 in the slot in the preseason. What they did last year for the most part was just move guys all over the place. And I think they're going to do that again. I'm not not necessarily downgrading anybody because of that. Dale is my third favorite Texans receiver this week. Slightly behind Diggs. Obviously, Nico's the best one.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He destroyed this team. Oh, my God. Just absolutely lit them up in two games. Nico, yeah, Nico had, yeah, he had like 700 yards in two games. Tank Dell played in one of them,
Starting point is 00:38:17 and they both had great games. What do you have, nine for 195 in the second one? He had seven for 146 in a touchdown in the first game, and nine for 195 in a touchdown in the second one. He had seven for 146 and a touchdown in the first game and nine for 195 and a touchdown in the second game. He averaged 31 points per game. Basically it's just insane in two games against the Colts.
Starting point is 00:38:34 The, uh, the thing about digs this week is you, you, it just right now, everything's positive. Made him a captain first game, show off your new toy,
Starting point is 00:38:44 big, you know, match up up here i think he has for me it's enough to start him um not necessarily slam dunk in two receiver leagues but like i said for me i would put him ahead of of dell just for this week but i think all three are better than pitman um this texans defense is no joke it's like richardson is is a start based on uh i'll use our buddy robert turbin's word hope because of what he brings with his legs it's like Richardson is, is a start based on, uh, I'll use our buddy, Robert Turbin's word hope because of what he brings with his legs. It's not a good matchup for him by any stretch either, because the pass rush is going to be tough for him.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And the secondary is definitely gonna be tough, but you're hoping he does enough as a playmaker just to overcome that. I, I I'm a little nervous about the Colts offense this week, aside from, you know, you're starting John to tell you. Heath.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. And this was by the way, the best run defense in the NFL. They allowed the Texans, they allowed four carries to running backs that went for 20 or more yards last year, and two of them were Jonathan Taylor in Week 18. So he actually had a huge game in Week 18 against them, but this was a terrific run defense.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Heath, do you have these concerns? You said earlier that Pittman is your highest-ranked receiver in the game in full PPR, but not in half. Yeah. I generally start the week with what does Vegas say in terms of score. And 48.5 over-unders, one of the four highest over-unders in the slate, and the Colts are only three-point underdogs. So that's a 22, 23-point implied total,
Starting point is 00:40:07 which puts you in a pretty decent spot. I'm not shying away from Pittman or Taylor. It wasn't very good last year against the Texans, but he also had 13.6 fantasy points in one of those games, even with 56 yards. He's going to be peppered with targets. We don't think Josh Downs is going to be there. Better in PPR for sure than in half PPR.
Starting point is 00:40:28 But I also expect that Anthony Richardson is going to be more efficient this year than Gardner Minshew was. And by the way, you talk about what a guy did against the team last year. Anthony Richardson had two rushing touchdowns and 35 rushing yards in a little bit more than a quarter. That's why you start.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah. Right. Like it doesn't necessarily matter what he does as a passer, how many sacks he takes. I mean, it matters. It matters, but obviously we know what Richardson is.
Starting point is 00:40:54 So I don't, the way I look at this game is like Joe Mixon has a tough matchup. The Colts allowed 3.4 yards per carry to running backs with Grover Stewart on the field. He had, I think a six game suspension and 4.6 yards per carry with Stewart backs with Grover Stewart on the field. He had, I think, a six-game suspension. And 4.6 yards per carry with Stewart off the field. But he's playing.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Taylor has a tough matchup. Pittman has a tough matchup. If guys struggle in this game, don't panic. But you're obviously starting just about everyone. I mean, I could see the Texans receivers, Dell and Diggs, being tough calls for people, especially in two receiver leagues. And Pittman, and Pittman.
Starting point is 00:41:30 But the running backs are obviously, they're starting. The quarterbacks are starting them. The tight ends, you're not. No, it's hard to trust Schultz. He didn't have two good games. He didn't have a good game in the two matchups against the Colts. And you threw another receiver into the mix as well.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So, yeah, stay away. I am, like, I'm still, like, I drafted Schultz and Hawkinson in several leagues towards the end. I'm starting Schultz over one of the finish. But you wouldn't do that if you could pick up Noah Fant, to be like, right? If he's healthy. I've got Schultz ahead of Fant. You do? Okay. Yeah. So, how
Starting point is 00:42:02 about, like, where do you rank Nico Dell digs? Nico is a top 12 receiver. Digs and Dell are inside the top 30. Nico, 16. Dell, 24. Digs, 30. Okay, some questions from the chat.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Digs or flowers? Digs. And that's it from the chat. Diggs or Flowers? Diggs. And that's it from the chat. If you have any questions about this game, go for it. Oh, here's a Tank Dell question. This is a trade. Tank Dell for George Pickens. Who would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Pickens. Pickens. Yeah, do that. I got so mad at my friend, I told him to take George Pickens, and he drafted last night. Who did he take? Someone else. Now I'm pissed at him. Now we're not friends anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Oh, Nico or Higgins? Nico. That's a question. There we go. I was just buying time. Nico. All right. I think we could be done here.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Texans DST? Low end starter. I don't want to. I feel like you're going to get some sacks and maybe some turnovers against Richardson this year. I don't think... Richardson didn't look to me like... I mean, maybe turnovers, but he did not look like a guy who was going to take a lot
Starting point is 00:43:18 of sacks last year. I feel like Justin Fields took a lot of sacks, right? Anthony Richardson has much better pocket presence than Justin Fields. Yeah, just the guys who try to extend the play a lot. You know, sometimes it works. Hold the ball, you get sacked.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yep. Las Vegas is at the Chargers. Is this an interesting fantasy game for you or no? I guess because I want to see what the Chargers do. But mostly it's just gross. I don't want to start a Charger and like Zemir White and Devontae Adams are low-end starters.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Why is Devontae Adams a low-end starter? Because I feel like the Chargers, unless you think the Chargers defense is going to be good, they could. They have to improve. I think they're going to play slow, ugly football. This game has an over-under of 40.5,
Starting point is 00:44:12 and the Raiders are three-point underdogs. So, Zamir White is in this big group of those running backs we talked about, the big canoe, the yacht, the flex yacht. Does anybody feel strongly about him compared to Tony Pollard and Ramondre Stevenson and Jerome Ford and this and that? Better than all those guys. Yes. I like Hubbard and Ford better than him.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I like white better than Swift and the Cowboys. Okay. Devante Adams did very well against this team last year 15.5 fantasy points in week 4 24.1 points
Starting point is 00:44:49 in week whatever it was oh and the last time they played the Raiders scored 63 points so take that take that boring
Starting point is 00:45:01 that will not that's not gonna happen this week that was the Austin Eckler first down. What was that? They were down like 40 points, and he had a big run. And he popped up, and he went. And then Brandon Staley got fired after that game, right?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Starter said Brock Bowers. I would sit him. First game, still dealing with the foot injury. Chargers were good against tight ends last year. They were not good against quarterbacks. They were horrible against quarterbacks. Do you think Minshew is a good super flex start?
Starting point is 00:45:36 Do you think he's a good DFS start? I don't think they're going to be a bad defense. I don't think any, any statistics that they were bad at last year, defensively, I would throw out. I agree. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And then Dobbins or Edwards, who do you guys rank higher? Edwards, but I don't like either one. I don't have either one currently in my top 36 running backs. But Daniel Popper really makes me want to rank J.K. Dobbins ahead of Gus Edwards. I could get excited about J.K. Dobbins ahead of Gus Edwards. I could get excited about J.K. Dobbins. I have zero excitement at all about Gus Edwards.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Half PPR league, Jordan wants to know Zemir White or Ramondre Stevenson? White. Josh Palmer or Brian Robinson? Robinson. Half PPR. Moss or Ramondre? Zach Moss or Ramondre? Zach Moss or Ramondre?
Starting point is 00:46:27 That's not this game, sorry, but answer it anyway. Ramondre. Ramondre. And is Justin Herbert a start? No. Justin Herbert is not in my top 24 quarterbacks. Okay. Would you start a DST in this game?
Starting point is 00:46:42 Chargers. Yeah. Speaking of DSTs, did I miss anything from this game? Raiders, Chargers, are we good? Jacoby Myers. Yeah, I didn't feel like I missed him. Vlad Mikhalky. It's a wait-and-see game.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Palmer's interesting. Can we say if you feel comfortable about getting 12 points, you just want to make sure you get a decent start at your flex. Those stats that I cited a lot this year were in a different environment.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I need to see... It's possible they throw the ball 27 times. You don't think Josh Palmer's a safe bet for 12 fantasy points? No. I mean, he scored 13 or more in two of his last three games against the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Again, I agree with Heath. You can't necessarily look in this situation year over year, but he still should lead the team in targets. So what did you say? 27 passes? Yeah. I mean, seven targets? Eight targets? All right I mean, seven targets, eight targets. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:47 People think one person thinks we've talked about this game too much. And I think I agree. So let's go on to a game of the week, new England at Cincinnati. Now I was going to say, speaking of DSTs, you guys have the bangles as a top two. You still have them as a top two DST.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yes. Number one for me. Yeah. So let's talk about that because this defense was the worst in football in yards per play last year. Doesn't matter. It doesn't not matter, though?
Starting point is 00:48:11 Like, are we really? They were not good. They were not a good defense. How was the Patriots' offense in yards per play? I mean, it's terrible. Well, but still, you're not the kind of guy
Starting point is 00:48:19 to stream bad defenses, Heath. We get to this argument like five times a year. Dave, me, and Jamie, we've got this bad defense facing this crap offense, and you've got them ranked like 15th. There probably is one of those this week, but it's not the Bengals against the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Okay. It might be the Giants against the Vikings. To be honest, the most shocking thing about this game is that it's only eight and a half points. Patriots to Bengals. Yes, it's Bengals minus eight and a half over under 40 and a half. They added Geno Stone and Von Bell to their secondary.
Starting point is 00:48:53 That's a big deal for the Bengals. They should be better. Here are some wide receivers who had fewer than 60 yards against the Patriots last year. Devontae Smith, Tyreek Hill once, Garrett Wilson twice, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Devontae Adams, Stefan Diggs twice, Keenan Allen, and Deontay Johnson.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Is this a tough matchup for the passing game for the Bengals? No. I don't love Tee Higgins. I do. I mean, I'm actually a little nervous about Jabbar Chase, not in a fantasy-relevant way.
Starting point is 00:49:27 There's no way I'd sit him, but I've got, you know, I wish he had been practicing more. Yeah. How do you see this game? Obviously, Vegas does not see the Bengals destroying the Patriots here. Eight and a half is a big number, but, you know, 40 and a half is a low total. I wonder if that gets bumped up a point if Chase is guaranteed to play.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So what does this mean for Moss and Brown? I think they're both worth using as flexes this week. You're talking about a situation where they should win this game, no bar more. We don't know who's going to be the lead runner. I would lean toward Moss early in the season based on just being just being a veteran and healthy right now so must start no but wouldn't surprise me if both of them get you know 12 to 15 total touches and both find the end zone they're very close to rb 30 for me 31 and 33 i think um ahead of theboys, ahead of the chargers behind most everybody else we've talked about. And behind Ramondre Stevenson,
Starting point is 00:50:27 obviously. And, um, would you flex T Higgins Heath since you're a little hesitant or Zach Moss, Chase Brown, Higgins, T Higgins or Ramondre Stevenson, Higgins,
Starting point is 00:50:41 Higgins, sit. One of these guys, Higgins, Debo or waddle Higgins. Higgins. Sit one of these guys. Higgins, Debo, or Waddle? Higgins. Debo. I have so much T. Higgins. No, Higgins. I have too much T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I have a bunch of T. Higgins. Let's go T. Higgins. I feel like he's our guy. I feel like he's our FFT guy. We've been talking about him so much. Great value. We love T. Higgins. Hooray.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I think I'm my most rostered best ball receiver. If you're wondering about Christian Gonzalez, first round pick for the Patriots last year, cornerback, he did not shadow.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I think he played only four games. He did not shadow A.J. Brown. He did not shadow C.D. Lamb. He's good, but they didn't use him in that capacity last year. Any interest in the tight ends in this game?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Revenge game for Gusecki. Yeah. But no. Henry, flyer at best. Henry is my favorite tight end in the game. Okay. Out of two. It's an endorsement.
Starting point is 00:51:41 No. Austin Hooper's there. Oh, Hooper. Hey, Hooper. And any interest in a Patriots wide receiver? Okay, no, we'll move on. All right, I think I'm good with this game. Jacksonville's at Miami.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Your stat of the game. So Jacksonville allowed the third most receiving yards to running backs last year. And they also added... Oh, they added, who did they add, everybody? They added Armstead to their defensive line. So, yeah, maybe this is a good, better game. It seems funny saying this because I know everyone's drafting and ranking A-chan ahead of Mostert.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's quite possible that's a huge mistake, but maybe this matchup is a better A-chan matchup than Mostert matchup. What do you think, Heath? I think that it may be a better A-chan matchup than Mostert matchup. My favorite stat of this game is that the Dolphins are missing 26 sacks from last season. Last season's defense, 26 sacks on that defense are not going to be playing in week one. Is that including Jalen Phillips? No.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So it might be 32. Wow. Okay. So this game you guys like in terms of starts here, like we're getting excited? Oh, yeah. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Dish, what do we like? I mean, every relevant dolphin. You like Mostert better than Ramondre? Oh, yes. And better than Swift and Pollard? Yes. Better than Swift, not better than Pollard. How about Mostert versus Ford and Hubbard?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Much better. I don't like Hubbard this week, so much better than Ford also. I've got Ford and Hubbard? Much better. I don't like Hubbard this week, so much better than Ford. I've got Ford and Hubbard higher. All right. And A-Chan, is he top 12 guy this week? 13. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Who do you like better, Lawrence or Tua? Tua slightly. It is basically a coin flip, but Tua is slightly ahead. And you like them both better than Dak, as we said. Both better than Caleb Williams? Yep. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I like both better than Jay and Daniels, and I like Daniels. Yep. Brock Purdy? Yep. Much better than... Okay. Start Travis Etienne. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Christian Kirk. Jamie, did you move him up? Because you had him in the 30s. I will, yes. Top 24 guy, or right around him? you had him in the 30s. I will, yes. Top 24 guy or right around him? He'll be in the top 30 in that range. Better than Pittman, better than DJ Moore for me. Start Ingram.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And what about Brian Thomas and or Gabe Davis then? Thomas is, I think, number three receiver. But you got to be a little bit nervous to start him his first game. But like he said, this pass rush is going to be a little bit shaky. So there'll be some opportunities there. There'll be a big player too. He may find the end zone.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Um, if you have a, a solid receiving core, I don't think you start them, but if you don't need a three receiver in a flex league, uh, not a bad option. I, I would prefer to sit Brian Thomas this first week. You don't need a three receiver in a flex league. Not a bad option.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I would prefer to sit Brian Thomas this first week. I would start JSN over him. Yeah, we had a question. JSN or Brian Thomas half PPR? How about this one? Brian Thomas, Romo Dunze, or Josh Palmer in full PPR? Palmer. Palmer.
Starting point is 00:55:02 See, this is why Mike's in this league. It's a second flex. This is why I like second flex. These are tough decisions. This requires some work, some thought process. I like this stuff. Start more players, people. Start more players.
Starting point is 00:55:17 What? I don't think this was supposed to be a joke. It says, why no John O. Smith love? There were reports the Dolphins wanted to slow down the offense, which I guess would mean involving John O. Smith more. There were reports the Dolphins wanted to slow down the offense, which I guess would mean involving John O. Smith more, would slow it down. He was listed as an F on the team's first depth chart.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Apparently, Mike McDaniel said that's a football player, but he is their second team F behind Alec Ingold. Okay. By the way, the Dolphins wanting to slow it down. I do remember reading a few months ago, they realized they are a little too reliant on the big play.
Starting point is 00:55:53 They need to be a more balanced offense. So it could look a little bit different this year. Yeah. Kirk or McCoy? I really, I think I know what they mean by that. I hope they're not trying to have fewer big plays. The big plays are what you need. Kirk or McLaurin?
Starting point is 00:56:11 You don't want to cut back on the big plays, guys. I don't think given the state of their defense, they want to go and grind it out and try and, you know. No, but it would be interesting if we had lower A-dots and more catches for these guys, or more running. Kirk or McLaurin is the question here. Kirk. Kirk. Ramondre Stevenson or Christian Kirk? Kirk.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Kirk in PPR. Half PPR? Kirk. All right. We're done with this game. Jalen Waddell, sorry, where's he ranked for you? Top 15. Stored him. Wait a second. Is this our last game? Oh my gosh. One more game. We're flying through it today. Iored them. Wait a second. This is our last game? Oh, my gosh. One more game.
Starting point is 00:56:46 We're flying through it today. I love it. Arizona's at Buffalo. Stat of the game number one. Only four wide receivers had double-digit targets against Arizona, and they actually were pretty good in their last eight games. They held Drake London, Nico Collins, Pukunukua, Cooper Cup, Deontay Johnson, George Pickens, Brandon Ayuk, DJ Moore, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, and D. and DK Metcalf to fewer than 14 PPR fantasy points. It doesn't really
Starting point is 00:57:10 matter because you're not starting a Bills wide receiver, but last year it was kind of weird. They ended up being pretty good against receivers. Here's something that I'm keeping an eye on for Buffalo and their defense. I don't think you can carry anything over. I mean, their secondary is so different, but one of the things the Bills do every year, they are so good at eliminating the big play. They have been top three in fewest completions of 25 or more yards allowed in three straight seasons. Can the Bills keep doing that under Sean McDermott?
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's going to be a real test for them because they just, I don't know. I don't really buy their secondary. PFF has their secondary ranked third. Sharp football has their secondary ranked 19th. PFF, I think, basically does it, I think, mostly based on their grades from last year. But like, I don't know. Is Rasul Douglas really going to be good? We'll see. That's my long rant about the Bills defense. Is this game difficult at all?
Starting point is 00:58:05 Are there any tough calls in this game? Are there any tough? I mean, I think Shakir and or Coleman are worth using in that similar range of if you have three receivers and a flex type of format just because he's going to throw to somebody. I mean, it's not like there's going to be no options in the passing game that are going to be worth anything.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So depending on what your team looks like, you could be starting one of those guys. Obviously, Kincaid's a must-start guy. James Cook's a must-start guy. James Conner? I'm a little bit worried about Conner. Okay. Let's talk about that, Heath.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You have highlighted his lack of involvement in the passing game. They're six and a half point underdogs. If they're playing from behind and throwing a lot in the second half, is it James Conner catching those passes? They pretty much used
Starting point is 00:58:59 Trey McBride as the nump off guy last year. Okay. Well, where do you have him ranked? Where do you have James Conner ranked? He's around 20. 24. Okay. 24. So I know for you he's behind Chuba Hubbard and Jerome Ford. He is. Jamie? He's ahead of those guys.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Okay. Kyler is an easy start this week? Yes. I'm starting him. Start Harrison. And DST? is an easy start this week? Yes. I'm starting him. Start Harrison. And, yeah, DST? I'd avoid them if you can,
Starting point is 00:59:37 but again, most people drafted the Bills to be starters, so... Yeah, I... I did, and I'm not... I did in one league, and I've kind of been feeling like, why did I do that? I think I might just drop them and pick up somebody that has a good matchup. Am I just wrong about the Bills DST?
Starting point is 00:59:50 I mean, I've been wrong a few times before. Not the DST, their defense in general. I'm just concerned about it. So it goes back to, again, you know, how much you trust the system and the coach, and the coach has been very good. Their pass rush may be very good especially if von miller can return to form which is hard to ask of the player in his age but if he does then that's
Starting point is 01:00:12 going to cover up a lot of mistakes yeah i like up front yeah they're good up front but milano's out for a while and they're secondary i mean they had micah hyden joined poor back there forever and now it's just different they don't't have Tredavious White anymore. You know, not that he was so good, but it's just the guys that made them great are gone. And it's a new cast of characters for the Bills. Wow. One hour
Starting point is 01:00:36 for a Starter Sid episode on a full slate. Except Thomas hates you right now, but sure. No, Thomas is thrilled. Are you kidding? He gets to start editing earlier. OK, thank you, guys. Thank you, Heath and Jamie. Let's have some fun tonight.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Huh? What are we eating? What are we eating tonight, Heath? Wings. OK. Should I order wings? I'm making wings, but yeah, you should probably. You're making wings.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'm not making wings. I could. You know what? I could make wings. If I have time, I'll go buy some wings and I'll put them in the. You would microwave your wings. I bake them and they're good. I could, you know what? I could make wings. If I have time, I'll go buy some wings and I'll put them in the oven. You would microwave your wings. No,
Starting point is 01:01:07 I bake them and they're good. You know, they're good. All right. You know, I had a burger the other day. I love the burger that has that like charred taste
Starting point is 01:01:15 on the top. Yeah. You know what I mean? I love that. Don't get that in the oven. No, you don't get that. Did you buy it or are you?
Starting point is 01:01:22 No, I went, when I was drafted, when I was doing the auction at the bar the other night. So good. All right. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:01:30 We're out. We'll talk to you tomorrow with the NFC home games, and we will review Thursday Night Football. Let's go football. See ya.

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