Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC)! Tough Matchups for Stud Players (11/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 23, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts We've got a lot of backup quarterbacks and some tough matchups to deal with this week, but we can still find players we love (2:15) like Isiah Pacheco! Also, what are our favorite holiday movies (9:30)? ... News and notes (13:35) and One Question for Each Game (20:10)! Should we start Justin Herbert? Jaylen Waddle? Any Steelers? Any Broncos? Ja'Marr Chase!? Derrick Henry? ... Start or Sit for Dolphins-Jets (29:10), Ravens-Chargers (37:15), Jaguars-Texans (44:00), Browns-Broncos (55:15), Steelers-Bengals (1:02:45), Chiefs-Raiders (1:10:40) and Panthers-Titans (1:16:05) ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up, everybody? It is Wednesday night, but if you're listening, it's Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. I don't think I can begin to tell you in all honesty how thankful I am for each and every listener and viewer, audience member, Fantasy Football Today family member out there.

I love you all, and I appreciate every single day. I appreciate you. I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful for Jamie Eisenberg and Thomas Schaefer staying up late tonight to do this show. Thomas behind the scenes, Jamie giving us all of his starts and sits. Today's episode is presented by Salesforce,

and we thank you for being with us on this holiday. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you what I'm not thankful for, Jamie. You ready? Yes. Week 12. This week sucks. Everybody has a bad matchup.

It's like I can't get into anyone. It's like, oh, there's a good matchup here. Great. It's like some Kyron Williams against the Cardinals. It's like all these good players have bad matchups. Waiting for the day where Zach Charbonnet gets his chance. Bad matchup. Like, I don't know.

Bad quarterbacks everywhere. Backup quarterbacks everywhere. I think it's a stressful... It's like Thanksgiving. It's a stressful week. Chaos. Everyone has a bad matchup this week.

That's the theme. Well, you asked me for my top five holiday movies. We know yours is The Grinch, clearly, after that rant. I don't think it's that bad. I think there are a lot of good matchups this week. I mean, I guess. There always are, but I don't know.

Maybe it's like, oh, Jamar Chase? Can't wait to start it? No. We'll see. Anyway, Jamie, let's get into the show. Metrolinks and Crosslinks are reminding everyone to be careful as Eglinton Crosstown LRT train testing is in progress. Please be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks. Remember to follow all traffic signals. Be careful along our tracks

and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. Who is the player you love this week? Who's our start of the week? Start of the week is Isaiah Pacheco, and I'm excited to see him hopefully snap out of his little mini funk. I thought he ran really well against the Eagles. You know, 19 carries, 89 yards, 10.1 PPR points. We know that are the best run defense most uh least amount of fantasy points allowed to running back so i think if you just get that type of production from him you should have been somewhat thrilled about it but taking on the raiders this week they're number five in fewest fantasy points allowed most fantasy points allowed

to opposing running backs and i think we'll see pacheco get back on track especially if he's getting 20 plus touches now he hasn't scored a rushing touchdown in five games in a row. And again, three games with 10 PPR points or less, but we just saw the Raiders give up over 22 PPR points combined to Raheem Mostert and Savan Ahmed and five of the last seven running backs against the Raiders have gotten you 13.6 PPR points or more. So I don't know if Pacheco is going to have a huge game, but I do think he'll be in the top 15 range. And I do think this will be one of his better performances, certainly late. That is a guy that I could be not necessarily excited, but at ease starting.

Just totally at ease. Like, yes, easy start. Isaiah Pacheco, over under 16 PPR fantasy points for Pacheco. I'll take the under, but slightly. I think 14.5 to 15.5. That's a good call because he has gone over 16 PPR points one time in his last 19 games since he basically became the feature back for the Chiefs.

But he's pretty, pretty solid double-digit PPR points. He had his first meeting with the Raiders last year, week 18. Eight carries, 74 yards, and a touchdown. Yeah, he's going to have a good rush average. I feel pretty confident in that. Who do I love, Jamie? You know who I would love if he practices in full all week? It's Josh Downs.

It'd be easy for me to say Michael Pittman against Tampa Bay, but that's a piece of cake. If I had Garrett Wilson or even Devontae Adams or a player I was nervous about, even a streaking Calvin Ridley coming off that big game, Pittman to me is just a layup.

Where is he for you? Top 15 guy, Pittman? Top 10. Top 10, okay. So that's easy. Downs, on the other hand, I do want to see that he's healthy. I know he practiced today.

I don't know if he practiced in full. But if he's in full go all week or most of the week, I'm a full go. I believe I saw a headline. It might have been from the Indianapolis Star that said he's as healthy as he's been. Okay. Then, yeah, I'm pretty into it. We're not talking about that game until Friday. What do you have him ranked?

Right around 30. I think, again, no team's on a buy, so it's hard to say he's a top 24 guy, but I'm with you. I'm excited about it. I think this is a great matchup, obviously, and it kind of ties into Gardner Minshew. You look at when Minshew's stats went south the last two games. He had the three games prior. I keep referencing it when I write it. His last three games, he's been 18 points or lower, but you'll take 18 points from Minshew. But the last two games were really awful. And it coincides with Josh Downs not being 100%. Absolutely. Yep. With Smartwater's pure crisp taste, there's nothing to overthink. So while you may be spiraling over double texting your crush, whether your skincare routine is working because you look the same or is doing nothing because you look the same and whatever the heck red light therapy is.

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This is one of my favorite stats that I found this week so far. And it's what the Baltimore Ravens have done inside the four-yard line, or from the four-yard line or closer in weeks two through six and weeks seven through eleven. What? It's very, very specific. Well,

because it just has such a fantasy impact for the Gus Edwards manager and the Lamar Jackson manager, right? Because in the first, I took out week one. That was a Dobbins week. Justice Hill scored two touchdowns, right? So the next five games, weeks two through six, Baltimore had eight carries

from the four yard line or closer. Gus Edwards had three of them. Lamar Jackson had four of them. Justice Hill had one. How about the last five games? Baltimore's had 10 carries from the 40 yard line or closer. One of them was a Tyler Huntley kneel down. The other nine were all Gus Edwards carries. He has

gotten every single carry from inside the four-yard line, and he has scored nine touchdowns in those five games. It has had a profound impact on those two players in fantasy. It's been very frustrating for Lamar Jackson, but it is crazy that he's gotten every single one from the four-yard line or closer when they were running a lot of design run plays for Lamar Jackson in that range early in the year.

Well, see, you know he's touchdown dependent, but he's basically the most reliable touchdown guy right now. He really is, and we had this last year. We'll see, you know, he's touchdown dependent, but he's basically the most reliable touchdown guy right now. He really is. And you know, it's, uh, we had this last year with Jamal Williams, you know, where he just kind of said, okay, he's going to score. And, you know, we've seen a little bit with Kareem hunt. We've seen it with David Montgomery at times, um, that, you know, they're, they're just, I don't want to say they're layups, but it feels like they're layups, you know, they get inside that range and you kind of just know what it's come, what's coming. So, um, yeah, it's like, it's hard when you do rankings with

players like that, because it's like, you want to say, okay, here's six points, but if they don't score, you know, it's like, we had this conversation with Taysom Hill, you know, what happens when the touchdowns go away, how bad is it going to be? We saw it in week 10 against Minnesota. Um, there's going to be a game where Gus Edwards doesn't score and you're going to get, you know, maybe a 60, 70 yard rushing day. You'll say, okay, seven points. I mean, even look, what was it two games ago? He had a touchdown and only nine points cause he had 30 something yards rushing. Um, you know, so there's going to be games like that also, but it just feels like if he ever got the chance to do a little bit more and we don't know where the targets are going to

go because of Mark Andrews, you know, he's, he's, he's had basically a catch, I think on average for the season, if I'm not mistaken. Um, if that bumps up to maybe three, which would be a surprise, but if it does, you know,

then my gosh, he could be awesome. That'd be great. Yeah. Would you start Gus Edwards over Charbonnet and Dylan? I would. Yes. And I would start him over James Connor this week.

And I would start him over Javante Williams this week. You know, I just don't love the matchups for those guys. Um, you know, and, and specifically those two Conner and, and Williams, you know, you're talking about touchdowns versus non-touchdowns. Williams has yet to score a rushing touchdown this year, only two receiving touchdowns. Broncos have one rushing touchdown as a team and the Cardinals only have three and James Conner's got two of them and he's not involved in the passing game either. So if you're talking about, you know where these guys are,

you know, you think, Oh my God, James Connors been has the chance to be awesome. And Javante Williams at times has been awesome. I mean, give me Gus Edwards all day with his magic. All right.

Listen, it is a Thanksgiving. So I think Jamie and I are entitled to a little bit of fun that you all can join in on. So here's our email of the day. It is from Scott and he says, Hey, Jim, William, Ernest, and Kareem.

Those are... You there? Oh, yeah. Feels like what? Airplane? I think they're Browns running backs. Oh. Is there a William? Is there a William for the Browns? Willie...ie jim william ernest and kareem

ernest beiner jim brown kareem hunt there was a will william green but he wasn't really good on the browns. Oh, Willie Green. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, his question is, how do you rank the top five holiday movies rest of season?

Which I thought was a funny way to frame it. But basically, top five holiday movies, even though there are, well, Jamie has a Thanksgiving

movie in there. Jamie's list is dumb. It's trolling me, basically, but. I have, I have one holiday movie in there that's just a holiday

it's not about the upcoming holidays i don't remember okay what's your top five my top five if i remember the list i gave you uh one clearly is die hard easy yeah um two is rocky four again again easy so stupid uh three Sandlot I want to make sure I have it right it's a Sandlot Sandlot

oh Sandlot because it's holiday right because there's fireworks for five minutes five seconds in that movie listen

4th of July it's a big night they get to play baseball under the lights that's it's a holiday um uh

Home Alone and Plane Trainsins, and Automobile. Fine. Thank you for getting two holiday movies in your top five. Numbers four and five. Die Hard, Rocky IV, Sailor. Obviously, the Die Hard argument is 15 years old now. The Rocky IV argument doesn't even exist because nobody thinks it's a Christmas movie.

The Sandlot is insane. Home Alone. That's like calling The Sandlot a swimming movie because there's a scene at a pool. No, I mean, look, that's a big thing for those kids. They get to play baseball under the lights. That's such a cool scene. I've seen that.

It gives me chills. The American beautiful play. And planes, trains, and automobiles. All right, Thomas, I asked you for your top five. Do you have it? Yeah, it's in no particular order, but Home Alone, Home Alone 2, Christmas Vacation, Elf, Bad Santa,

and my honorable mention would be the Santa Claus. Yeah, Jamie not having Christmas Vacation on there is a major oversight. Well, it's funny because when I got to five, I was like, which of the comedies do I like the best? And Christmas Vacation was on the list. Scrooge was on the list. What was the other one?

Elf was on the list. And Planes, Trails, and Automobiles. And that's just such a classic. Right, but you could obviously get rid of the Sandlot. I could, but then it wouldn't be fun. You said holidays. I mean, listen, you left it up to interpretation. Sure.

I could have gone Groundhog Day. I actually saw something on Twitter that people were saying First Blood is actually a Christmas movie, too, because when he first interacts with the cop, there's like a Christmas decoration. Yeah, totally. It is, absolutely. Merry Christmas.

Lethal Weapon, too. Yeah, right. Lethal We lethal weapon also he's saying uh christmas vacation one for me home alone two elf three the night before number four i love that movie uh and i put love actually on there like there should be some some romance uh in in your holiday movie and And I put two honorable mentions, Office Christmas Party. I always go back and forth between the night before and Office Christmas Party.

And I love the movie Just Friends. Love Just Friends. It's on all the time in the month of December. And so if you stumble on it, it's probably on Comedy Central right now. Watch Just Friends. It's so good.

News and notes. Derek Carr practiced. He's still in the concussion protocol, but trending in the right direction, so it's early enough in the week. We can be optimistic. Let's get Derek Carr. I have not done it yet, but we are ranking him. Okay. Mac Jones seems to be the favorite to start. A little

unclear, but it seems like that's the case at the Giants. Gino Smith practiced. He's going to play on Thursday. Running back news. Devon Achan is questionable, so if people are listening to this and they have to make their Thursday. Running back news, Devon Achan is questionable. So if people are listening to this and they have to make their Thursday decisions before we find out about the Friday guy, Devon Achan, what are we doing here?

And Raheem Mostert too. I mean, all the Thursday guys over Achan at this point. And then I think Mostert, you kind of know that he'll still be heavily involved regardless. So I don't know if that should really factor into the equation if you're looking at most or slight downgrade maybe, but it doesn't feel like HN is going to get a heavy workload.

Ken Walker is going to be out. Kenny McIntosh is going to play. Antonio Gibson is questionable. Apparently, he's going to be a game time decision. So the Lions game is before that. Lions Packers is before that. So you have to make any Brian Robinson calls. Remember we said earlier on is before that. So if you have to make any Brian Robinson calls, remember we said earlier on Wednesday,

Jamie and Heath basically were going to knock Robinson down, I think it was about 10 spots or so. Yeah, it probably would be that. It's a tough matchup to begin with just from a running standpoint, but the fact that he would get all the work without Gibson there is the thrilling part. Forget about encouraging, the thrilling part. Forget about encouraging the thrilling part. I mean,

you've seen now two games of him as a pass catcher and he's been fantastic. So, um, I would still start him as a, as a number two running back, uh, with, with Gibson playing.

But if Gibson's out, he's a number one. AJ Dillon is questionable, but he will play. Uh, Rico Dowdle is questionable, but he's expected to play Damian Pierce back at practice. So, uh, well, that's, I think that's the first game we're talking about. Rico Dowdle is questionable, but he's expected to play. Damian Pierce back at practice.

So I think that's the first game we're talking about. It's one of the first games we're talking about. We'll talk about the Texans running backs. Kyron Williams is expected to play at Arizona. Wide receiver news. DK Metcalf has not practiced, but he is playing on Thursday. T. Higgins missed practice on Wednesday. Christian Watson, Jaden Reed, and Dontavian Wicks are all on the injury report.

I think Wicks is the one in question here. I believe he's in the concussion protocol, so I think Watson and Reed should be fine. Darius Slayton seems to have a decent connection with Tommy DeVito if you're looking in those deep leagues, but he missed practice with an arm injury, so keep an eye on Darius Slayton. Rashad Bateman hurt his foot, but he says he's fine. Josh Downs practiced. Jalen Guyton for the Chargers. He's back at practice, and I can't make the case for him this week against Baltimore. But going forward, I certainly can make the case that he's the second best wide receiver on the team and that if you own Quentin Johnston, that maybe you should pivot to Guyton. At least I can make that case. I agree. Noah Brown mispracticed. I think Dalton Schultz, it's been six or seven weeks

where he's been pretty good. I think maybe he's played one game where every receiver's been healthy. One guy's been out or has left early, I think in every game, actually. I mean, he's played every game. He has played every game, yeah. Despite you trying to erase him.

But he's played every game. He has played every game, yeah. Despite you trying to erase him. But he's played every game. But yes, they've had, at some point, somebody feels like they've been banged up. Yeah, I think it's been every week. It's either been Dell, Collins, Woods, or Brown. But never Schultz. Luke Musgrave is on IR with a lacerated kidney. Get well soon.

And Gerald Everett practiced, which is a big time. I would have been a little bit excited about Donald Parham. I've been tight end hell in a couple leagues. I would have started him for sure. But Gerald Everett back at practice, so that looks like probably he'll play. Offensive line news, nothing too major here except Baltimore left tackle

Ronnie Stanley practiced. He missed last week's game. Defensive news. Tyson Campbell still missing practice for the Jaguars, their top corner. Devondre Campbell looks like he's going to play. Jair Alexander is also questionable.

Two big time players on the Packers defense. Cincinnati edge Sam Hubbard practiced. Washington cornerback Emmanuel Forbes, as if their past defense wasn't bad enough, he's out for Thursday's game. The biggest one that I'm following here, and I don't know how much it matters, but if you have any lack

of faith in Devontae Smith, three defensive backs for the Bills all started out as a DNP missing practice on Wednesday. And I'll skip the rest. We'll keep an eye on Milton Williams, defensive tackle for the Eagles.

He's in the concussion protocol. And remember, Jamie just said, Isaiah Pacheco ran all over the Eagles, which really nobody's done. And also Marshawn Lattimore mispractice. And Marlon Humphrey keeping on that too. Marlon Humphrey practiced. So he's Baltimore's very good corner

at the Chargers on Sunday night, and he practiced. And pretty soon the networks will figure out that the Chargers are frauds and we won't have to watch them on primetime all the time. We'll take a break. When we come back, one question for each game. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.

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I said a mean thing about the Chargers before we went to break. I apologize. I'm in a bad mood. Well, to your point, I think they'll realize that when Brandon Staley's gone. Which is unbelievable that it hasn't happened yet, in my opinion, but, you know, you can't defend the defense. Their defense is terrible, and I think Rex Ryan

said they have the second most amount of money invested in their defense in the NFL. Well, they've paid Bosa. They signed Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack, Derwin James. They signed Derwin James. Yeah, I mean,

obviously Bosa's out now. They do lose a lot of close games. That's the thing. I understand why they're on the networks, because they are exciting. They have Justin Herbert, and they play a lot of competitive games. But it's such a shame. It's a shame that they're frauds because they have so much talent. Well, it feels as if they're wasting a couple

of great years of Justin Herbert. Absolutely. And the twilight of Austin Eckler's career. And Keenan Allen's. Okay. One question for each game. Miami's at the Jets. Garrett Wilson or Jalen Waddell? I'd give Wilson a slight nod

just because, A, he's been more productive over the course of the season, and B, I feel like the defense he's facing is a little bit easier than the defense that Waddle is facing. Now, granted, you could say quarterback matters here, which clearly it does, but I would guess that the situation

is going to be somewhat similar where bad targets, but a lot of them going in Garrett Wilson's direction, more so than Waddles. We have a great YouTube poll, by the way. Which underdog has the best chance to pull the upset on Thanksgiving? Packers over Lions, Commanders over Cowboys, Seahawks over Niners.

Definitely the Packers, right? Oh, very close between the Packers and the Seahawks. Yeah, I would say Seattle. I struggled to pick that game for the site. I did actually pick the 49ers to cover, but it feels like it could be a close game just because Seattle's kind of, I don't want to say they're back to the wall,

but they're coming off a pretty tough loss, and you know what that rivalry has been. But it just feels like San Francisco, if they don't make mistakes, they're going to steamroll. Baltimore's at the Chargers. Starter sit Justin Herbert. He's my 12th quarterback this week. Actually, two is 13th if you're looking at those two scenarios. So I don't think it's a slam dunk. Now, he's been better at home, and you got to assume that they're going to be throwing a lot. But I mean, when Baltimore turns it on defensively, it's going to be, I think, tough for a lot of teams as we've seen.

I mean, look what they did to the Lions and how they obliterated that offense. So I don't think this is a great week for Justin Herbert. Jacksonville's at Houston. Are we going right back to Trevor Lawrence and or Calvin Ridley? No. You know, Lawrence, you know, did not play great against the Texans the first time that they met.

Now, granted, Houston's allowed some big games to quarterbacks lately, Lawrence did not play great against the Texans the first time that they met. Now, granted, Houston's allowed some big games to quarterbacks lately, specifically Joe Burrow and Kyler Murray. I don't know if Lawrence just has that ability to turn it on again. So he's a top 15 quarterback for me. But if you're asking start or sit, I would lean sit. Three straight quarterbacks have scored 22 to 23 points or 22 to 24 points against Houston. That would be Baker Mayfield, Joe Burrow, and Kyler Murray. One thing I wanted to note about Calvin Ridley, in case I forget later, he played his highest percentage by far in the slot last week, about 25%, which is not a lot, but it is a lot more

than usual. And he had something like 60 yards in a touchdown on on two targets out of the slot or something like that so maybe 50 yards whatever it was and he's been his stats are very good out of the slot this year just there haven't been a lot of it but that was one adjustment his best games have come when zay jones has played yeah i could i can't quite figure out if it's matchups coincidence or if it's because he's running different routes. I think it's he's running different routes. That would be the thing for me

because I think what we've seen from this offense for the most part is they don't challenge down the field consistently. And when he's the guy that has to run down the field, he's just not getting those opportunities. All right, Baltimore. I'm sorry, Cleveland at Denver. That's the one. Cleveland at Denver. Is there the one. Cleveland at Denver.

Is there a great start in this game? The closest aside from the DSTs would probably be Jerome Ford for me, just based on how bad Denver's been against the run. And so if Ford continues, his floor just feels so safe. I mean, it's like five of six games with 11 PPR points or more.

So he's just kind of lived in that range. Unfortunately, he hasn't really escaped it. But, I mean, he gets 60, 70 yards in a touchdown this week would not surprise me at all. Let's see. Pittsburgh at Cincinnati. Same question. Is there one great start in this game?

I'm not benching Jamar Chase, but he's not the same Jamar Chase with Jake Browning. I mean, look, he might be, you know, that's the thing is we,

we just really don't know. Um, can, can Browning to chase be better than Baygent to more or Zach Wilson, the Garrett Wilson, or I'm trying to think, you know, look,

if, if he's, if, if it's a no Connell to Devante Adams, like those type of opportunity targets, I'll take my chances with Jamar chase all day. Right. I think, you know, ripping member where we had a Puka and cup ranked in the ripping game, not low enough at fairly high for cup.

So it's possible for, for him to be bad. I gotta be honest. I, I, I did not think Browning was that bad. I agree. I agree. You know, and anytime you give a guy a chance to, you know, get some reps, I guess we should also say DTR slash PJ Walker and Amari Cooper. The difference is, though, think about the receivers we're talking about. Devontae Adams is 30-plus.

Cooper Cup is 30-plus and has already been banged out. I mean, Jamar Chase is still in the prime of his career. Well, so, um, so hopefully that matters, you know, as opposed to just a struggling veteran dealing with,

you know, um, backup quarterback, next game, Kansas city at Las Vegas, Josh Jacobs or Isaiah Pacheco, Pacheco for me. Um,

Jacobs has been a little tough to trust the last couple of I should say the last couple of games. There's been some red flags the last couple of games in terms of what Jacobs had been doing. A lot of work, not a lot of work in the passing game, so volume has mattered. We saw against Miami when they were chasing points, they weren't throwing to him, and that's

the scary part because you thought at least with that week, four game against Chargers when O'Connell started under Josh McDaniels, he had 11 targets and eight catches. And so why has that not been sort of a staple? Maybe they get back to that this week, but a tough matchup. And, you know, I think you just lean toward, they're kind of similar in terms of where they are right now.

Not a lot of work in the passing game. You're expecting a lot of carries and I'll take my chances with the guy facing the Raiders as opposed to the guy facing the Chiefs. Jacob's averaging about one more PPR point per game this year than Pacheco, but Pacheco with the better matchup. Does that speak to Jacobs having a bad year or Pacheco having a good year, that they're so close? Jacobs having a bad year.

First of all, I didn't know this until Schaefer put up the graphics, so credit to him. It was 13.8 for Jacobs and 12.7 for Pacheco. I'm not going to call 13.8 a bad year, but it's been really bumpy for Jacobs.

Well, I know. These are two guys I was avoiding was Jacobs and Derrick Henry based on some of the circumstances. Jacobs with the holdout, Henry with his age. Henry's at 13.3 for the season.

So you're not drafting those two guys where you're drafting them for those numbers. No. And speaking of Derrick Henry, Carolina, Tennessee, Adam Thielen or Derrick Henry in half PPR? In half, I'm going to go Henry. I think this is, you know,

I wrote the start of start set last week with Tony Pollard against this matchup. He had 18 PPR points. They're just basically a free space at this point. And, you know, you pointed this out, you say this a lot. Um, I don't know how much you've actually attached the numbers to it. Um, Derek Henry in favorable game scripts. So I went back and looked at it today. He said, I think it's six games this season that they've either won or lost by less by seven or less. And in those six, I think it's seven times six of them. He's been 16.2 PPR points or more. Wow. So they've been blown out a few times, obviously. Um, but even in, you know, what you would consider a one score game, he's been fairly successful and

and this is one of those games where they're three and a half point favorites i mean my gosh if they lose this one it's a complete disaster but they should they should be able to hang with the panthers if not beat them and that sets up for him having success yeah and both these guys are in pretty good spots you're feeling against t Tennessee, Henry against Carolina. Someone said, why so moody, Adam? I'm not at all. I hope people are picking up. It's really just like an act. He's doing a bit.

He's doing a bit. It's a bit. Yeah, I just I'm frustrated by all the difficult decisions that we have this week. And, you know, one of the reasons is we have we have arguably the best offense in football against the arguably the best defense in football, Miami and the Jets. We have the Chargers against the Ravens. We have the Bengals with a backup quarterback. We have, what else is bothering me? You're a Giants fan, so a lot's bothering you.

Oh, the Giants are going to win. Again, that's pissing me off. I don't want that to happen. They're obviously going to win. All right, anyway, let me off. I don't want that to happen. They're obviously going to win. All right, anyway, let's start the games here. Miami's at the Jets. Stat of the game. Oh, Brees Hall.

Brees Hall is averaging two and a half yards per carry in his last five games. It's been terrible. And the Dolphins, in their last four games, here are the PPR fantasy points for the last four running backs they've faced. DeAndre Swift, 10.5. Ramondre Stevenson, 7.

Isaiah Pacheco, 6.6. Josh Jacobs, 6.1. None of them had more than 22 receiving yards, and that's the only thing Hall has had to fall back on. Is he still an easy start, Brees Hall? I don't know if I'd categorize anybody on the Jets as easy, but I'm not benching Brees Hall. It's probably not fair for me to rank Joe Mixon 24th

and Brees Hall 12th, just based on their circumstances, right? Because it's backup quarterbacks, bad matchups. Can you trust them? Yeah, well, I mean Because it's backup quarterbacks, bad matchups. Can you trust them? Hall is, but yeah, well, I mean, Hall is running so poorly, but at least he has

some explosiveness in him, like a 50-yard touchdown catch against the Giants in his game. That's, Mixon doesn't do that. Right. Yeah.

No, but you're right. All right. He's a top 12 guy for everybody. He's seventh for Heath, 11th for Dave and Jamie. So, you can start Brees Hall. Mostert or Hall?

Mostert. All right. How are you feeling about Tua? You're the low guy on Tua. Not good. You know, you take away week one when he had the 33 points against the Chargers.

He's been miserable on the road. And granted, you know, some of those games have been obviously brutal, but there's a game against the Patriots in there too. This Jets defense clearly is very good against quarterbacks.

Now they've given up some production to quarterbacks. Some of it has been with their legs. We know Tua doesn't do that. So I'm a little nervous. You saw some flaws last week, not against the Raiders at home where he didn't have the huge game. So I don't think it's necessarily a slam dunk. I have T I have two in two leagues. One is a two QB league where I'm not benching him clearly.

And one is my guillotine league where I'm sitting him for Kyler Murray. Um, or I got to check, I put in a bid. Oh man, I forgot to look at that. Um, I put in a bid for, we do at a free ad drops at 7.00 PM and I forgot to check. I put in a bid for Josh Allen. He was available. What a fun leak. It really is. That's crazy. We're going to start CJ Stroud over him.

Josh Dobbs. Correct me if I'm wrong. Josh Dobbs. I got Josh Allen for $50. Let's go. Josh Dobbs. Justin Fields, Jared Goff,

over to a Josh Dobbs, Justin Fields. Yes. Okay. And most dirt you love. If a Chan plays, where do you think you'll rank them? A Chan will probably not be a top 24 running back for me,

just with the concern of the injury and the potential of re-injuring himself. So he'll be probably behind both guys that we are concerned about on Thursday, which are A.J. Dillon and Zach Charbonnet. And what did Mike McDaniel say about Jeff Wilson? He said something so funny.

I don't know. He basically said he's ready to go for week 12. Let me see if I can find the quote. Mike McDaniel's my favorite. Not my favorite coach. He's my favorite person. I think he said something like, we're going to get the people's champion back

or something like that. Anyway, Jeff Wilson's available. He's 24% rostered as of Wednesday night, so might be someone that's worth stashing. Tyreek Hill is a must-start guy, but Jalen Waddell is not. Jamie already said Jalen Waddell is behind Garrett Wilson, who's also not necessarily

a must-start guy. Would you start, how about Debo Samuel or Jalen Waddell or Garrett Wilson? How would you rank them? Debo Samuel, Jalen Waddell, or Garrett? How would you rank them? Debo Samuel, Jalen Waddle, or Garrett Wilson? I would rank them in PPR. Wilson, Samuel, Waddle. Christian Kirk and Calvin Ridley

or the wide receivers in this game? Kirk, Wilson, Ridley, Waddle. What a shame that we have to pretty much... We don't have to, but we're more or less benching Jalen Waddle. What a shame that we have to pretty much have to, but we're more or less benching Jalen Waddle. I'm only benching him in two receiver leagues. He's like 25 for me. It's not a must-sit situation. It reads that way in

stardom sit-em, but it's not a must-sit across the board. Do you want to hear just quickly the transactions while I have him in front of me since you enjoy these? Guillotine League. This is where one team gets eliminated every week and that team's players are available to the rest of the league. All right. So Christian McCaffrey was available,

went for $385 out of a thousand. Austin Eckler went for 134. Alvin Kamara went for 81. I got Josh Allen for 51. Isaiah Pacheco went for 134. Alvin Kamara went for 81. I got Josh Allen for 51. Isaiah Pacheco went for 41. Corlin Sutton went for 19. Alexander Madison went for 14.

Demario Douglas went for $1. Kyler Murray was picked up after I dropped him for free. Murray Cooper for free. Zach Charbonnet for free. And Jake Ferguson for free. I mean, Kyler Murray for free is a very good... Well, I mean, I dropped him for Josh Allen. Oh, right, right. Yeah, that makes sense.

So here, I'll let you set my lineup for me. Here's my lineup. Josh Allen, a quarterback. Okay. I only have one tight end, Sam Laporta. So pick two... It's two running backs, two receivers,

and two flexes. Here are my running backs. You ready for this group? Uh-huh. Jonathan Taylor. Ooh, brutal matchup. Week 12, baby. Jameer Gibbs.

Stardom. Kyron Williams. Sit him. Bijan Robinson. Mm, I like him. Romandre Stevenson. Mm. And Tony Pollard.

I can only pick two of those? You can pick four. Oh, okay. Gibbs. Taylor. Bijan. Remember, I don't have to finish first. I just can't finish last.

Gibbs, Taylor, Bijan, Romandre. Okay, but wait. You haven't heard the receivers yet. So the receivers are... I'm really starting Romandre over Pollard. I think I am starting Romandre over Pollre. Okay, but wait. You haven't heard the receivers yet. So the receivers are Devante Smith. I think I am starting Ramondre over Pollard. Yeah, go ahead. Devante Smith, Nico Collins,

Puka Nakua, DJ Moore, and Deontay Johnson. How many do I start there? Again, it's either two or four. Oh. Yeah, I'll start Puka if Cupp's out. I forgot.

Not Deontay. Deontay Johnson's on the bench for sure. Not sure I'm loving DJ Moore. Who was the first one you said? Devontae Smith. Oh, Devontae Smith for sure. Right now, here's what I have. I have Taylor Gibbs.

Smith and Puka. I have Taylor Gibbs, the four receivers. Oh, Devante Smith, for sure. Right now, here's what I have. I have Taylor Gibbs. Smith and Puka. I have Taylor Gibbs, the four receivers. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah, that's what I have right now. Okay. Yeah, I like the running backs better than the receivers. But you got a lot of bad matchups there because, you know, it's week 12.

All right, back to this game here. Someone's going to love my team if they can get a lot of talent if I lose. Yeah, right? No kidding. All right, Garrett Wilson. We know he's like a number two wide receiver. We can compare him to some others

throughout the show. If anybody has any questions, fire away. Would you start Garrett Wilson or if Cooper Cup plays, would you start Puka Nakua or Garrett Wilson? I would start Puka probably regardless. Okay. Yeah, Dave's pretty low on him.

Dave's got him outside the top 24. Dave's definitely not a Tim Boyle guy, and I get it. Right. And nobody's a Zach Wilson guy, but it can get worse. I mean, at least for Garrett Wilson, with Zach Wilson, you were routinely getting 10 or more targets. So, yeah. All right. Tyler Conklin, you know, 10 or more targets. So, yeah. All right.

Tyler Conklin, you can sit. Dolphins DST is third for Jamie, fourth for Dave, eighth for Heath. Jets DST is a sit for the guys this week. Baltimore's at the Chargers. All right, this will be a little bit of a test here for the Ravens. When they faced the best offenses they've faced, it's mostly been at home. And then last week was pretty interesting with Cincinnati, and then Burrow got hurt.

So we'll see what the Chargers do, but at least the Ravens can fall back on their pass rush. They lead the NFL in sacks. Lamar Jackson is fifth for everyone. And he hasn't been very good without Mark Andrews, but he's really never had the supporting cast that he has now, and the Chargers are just awful on defense. So what are your thoughts on Keaton Mitchell,

who we haven't talked about, and again, Gus Edwards? I mean, Edwards is a must-start running back, in my opinion. Clearly, in non-and-half PPR, it's a slam dunk, and I think in full PPR, like I said, I would start him over James Connor, Javante Williams, James Cook, Zach Charbonnet, AJ Dillon. I don't know how much more you want me to go, but that feels like a pretty good list. Mitchell is more of a flex. We just haven't seen consistent work from him, which is tough to trust. And so, you know, goal line opportunity is not going to be there. Hasn't really shown himself to be reliable in the passing game, but favorable matchup, I think favorable game script

too, because they should be playing with the lead. So maybe they give him an opportunity to carry the ball. So, um, not a bad flex play, but you know, again, behind those guys, I mentioned that I would start Edwards over. And so if you're looking at it, the guys that we just picked up the, uh, the Charbonnet's and the Dylans of the world, I think they're safer than Mitchell. Would you start Gus Edwards over a guy like Jalen Waddell? Again, definitely a nine and a half PPR, and I would in full PPR too.

Wow, okay. All right, how do we feel about Beckham and Zay Flowers this week? Who do you like better? I like Flowers better. And again again small sample size but go back to week one when andrews didn't play and it was what nine or ten targets and seven catches or something like that for for flowers it was yep this is nine catches for 78 yards on ten targets yep yep um i mean look i don't know if that was just byproduct of game plan

obviously beckham was still coming back from the ac tear, you know, so he wasn't a significant factor at that point. I think Bateman was still dealing with a foot injury too. So, you know, you have some things at play, but it feels as if slot receiver will get some bigger opportunities and that's kind of where Zay Flowers has been. So I have them both as high end number three receivers with Flowers, a borderline number two guy. So I lean toward him if you have to make a choice. But it's a great matchup across the board. You know, Chargers are top five and fantasy points allowed to receivers.

So it should be an opportunity for these guys to be productive. You just got to hope that Beckham's okay dealing with the shoulder. Yeah, he did a mispractice on Wednesday, I believe. And Flowers is the slot guy more so than the others. And the Chargers are really bad. Fourth most yards per catch to wide receivers out of the slot guy more so than the others, and the Chargers are really bad. Fourth most yards per catch to wide receivers out of the slot. The Chargers are just bad in general against wide receivers.

They allow the second most fantasy points to wide receivers. They give up a ton of big plays, and that's something that Beckham really has been thriving at lately. Isaiah Likely, you are more, it's pick him up and stash him. It's not pick him up and start him. Isaiah likely, right? That's the way I would approach it. But again, it's a great matchup. You know, they've been bad against tight ends. I'm going to move them up a few

spots in my rankings. I think I have him a little bit too low, probably be closer to fifth. Like right now, I have Parham ranked ahead of him. That's not going to be the case. So I'll move him up a few spots, but not in the top 12. I think it's a great stash candidate. You know, if he has a good game this week, then they go into their body. You're like, okay, maybe I'll move him up a few spots, but not in the top 12. I think it's a great stash candidate. You know, if he has a good game this week, then they go into their body. You'd be like, okay, maybe I got something here to carry me in the fantasy playoffs.

But you know, it's, it's such a small sample size of him doing great in two games last year, relatively speaking, but you know, just factoring the two games, he averaged almost 14 PPR points. So is that the guy we're looking at? Or are we looking at one for four on one, one target and we want, you know, like that's hard to wrap your head around because it was the first game in a

new offense and not a lot of preseason work. And I think Andrews was a surprise inactive, you know, based on how, if I remember the practice reports, like, was he going to play, not going to play.

And they just were being cautious. So I think likely could be great. I think he could be awful. And we could be talking about somebody dropping going into the bye week if he has a limited amount of targets okay and herbert we going over the chargers herbert is 12th for jamie 10th for dave and heath everything we said about tua a little while ago start stroud and dobs and fields and golf and kyler murrayua. It's also over Herbert. Tua and Herbert are back-to-back for Jamie. Herbert 12 and Tua 13th. And Baltimore giving up the second fewest fantasy points to the quarterbacks.

You know, Herbert has been kind of matchup dependent. He stunk against the Chiefs. He stunk at the Jets. He had a big game last week at the Packers, who have been pretty good against quarterbacks. But he did have 73 rushing yards there. And he was also good against the Cowboys, 23.1 fantasy points against the Cowboys. So I guess I'd say two good games and tough matchups, two bad games, but the Chiefs and the Jets are tougher than the Cowboys and the Packers. And the Ravens are more like the Chiefs

and the Jets than they are the Packers and the Cowboys, in my opinion. I agree. I don't think it's an outright sit, Justin Herbert, but I wouldn't be playing him DFS. I guess you can't because it's primetime, right? But I wouldn't be looking at him as, this is the guy that's going to

save my fantasy week. Eckler, still a must-start? Yeah. Eckler and Allen a must start? Yeah. Eckler and Allen are untouchable. Yeah. Okay. And that's it, right? I mean, we're not going to start Quentin Johnston or anyone.

No. But Jalen Guyton's not a bad stash. Not a bad stash. Yeah, I just picked him up in a dynasty. I was happy about that. That's one of the ones that Heath was yelling me about. Oh, okay. Donald Parham, if Everett's out, would come into play.

But again, Everett practicing on Wednesday is not a good sign. Ravens don't seem like they're amazing against tight ends. Seems like it might be a little bit of a vulnerability for them. And last question here is, are we going right back to the Ravens DST? Any concerns? No.

I mean, again, if you want to get ahead of your week 14 matchup and if there's somebody that you like there, or even week 13 and 14, because the Ravens are on a bye next week, so you might be able to get two weeks out of a DST that will help you. They have an interesting schedule coming up.

They have the Chargers, who are second best against DSTs, and they have a bye. Then the Rams. Then the Jaguars, 49ers on the road, both of them. And then the Dolphins. So at Jacksonville, at San Francisco, home against Miami in the fantasy playoffs

for the Ravens. I think that's pretty much it for that game. Jacksonville's at Houston. Here we go. Game of the week. Is this going to be high scoring? These two teams are 10th and 11th in points per game. They're 11th and 14th in points per game allowed. So they've both actually been pretty good on defense. Here's the stat of the

game. Ready, Travis ETN fantasy managers? You've been vomiting two weeks in a row. Get your barf bag out. The Texans allow the second fewest yards per carry to running backs. And all season long, they have allowed one running back carry of more than 20 yards. And that is to Najee Harris. The Texans have gone from perennially the worst run defense in football, basically right there with the chargers to one of the best. It is weird. Is Travis Etienne a top 10 running back this week?

He's right there. I mean, he's, he's right there. So, um, if I'm not mistaken, he had a decent game against them in week three. He did. It was like 19 carries, 88 yards or something like that.

It was a good game. Yeah, 19 for 88 and four catches for 50 yards. I can see something similar to that. Okay. You have Trevor Lawrence, 15th. So you are starting Tua and Herbert and all those other guys we mentioned. Would you start Derek Carr over Trevor Lawrence? No.

Gardner Minshew? Not there yet. Okay. CJ Stroud, we'll go over to him. You know what's funny about CJ Stroud? It's almost hard to accept this, but he has scored more than 20 fantasy points, I think only once in his last five,

no, 21 or fewer in five of his last six games. But that one game where he went over 21, he scored 52 points. He's also thrown for 336 or more yards in three straight games. He threw three interceptions in the red zone last week. But I don't know, what do you think about that? Are we overrating him when you see CJ Stroud 21 or fewer points in five red zone last week. But I don't know. What do you think about that? Are we overrating him when you see C.J. Stroud

21 or fewer points in five of his last six games? I don't think overrating. I think if we were overrating him, he would be top three, you know, considering him in that range, maybe even top five. He was just outside that group. But, I mean, look, he's had some great games.

He had a great game against Jacksonville. It's the only game this season where Jacksonville failed to have a sack or a turnover defensively was that week three game, which is rare. They gave 37 points. So, I mean, when Tank Dell has been on the field, I believe the numbers have been pretty exceptional for Stroud. Full games.

You know, that kid's having an unbelievable season. So, yeah, I think with Collins and with Dell and Schultz, the way he's playing, and maybe Noah Brown's back, but I don't even think that matters. I think just those three options alone, it's been great. So, yeah, I don't have any hesitation about Stroud. Daniel in our chat wants to know, should I start Stroud over Mahomes?

I'm not there yet because I do think this is a remember-me game for Mahomes against the Raiders, too. I'm just going to show you what I can do. Kelsey goes nuts. But, yeah, no, I'm not there. Would you start Stroud or Goff? These decisions frustrate me

because you should have gotten something great for one of these quarterbacks. There's some value to not giving away a league-winning quarterback, but yeah. Stroud or Goff? Not if you're getting a league-winning receiver running back. Stroud or Goff? Stroud. Stroud or Goff? Not if you're getting a league-winning receiver. You have to, right. Stroud or Goff?

Stroud. Stroud or Purdy? Stroud. Okay. Here's the Jeff Wilson quote, by the way, from Mike McDaniel. Jeff is ready, fully healthy, and I'm ready for the people's champ to get some action. He's my hero.

I just love this guy. We have to get him on the show in the offseason. All right. What else from this game here? All we've talked about is the quarterbacks, basically. Let's talk about the wide receivers. Is Tank Dell the only must-start wide receiver in this game? No. I think

Nico and the two Jaguars guys qualify as in the conversation really um so nico i think you got to consider him especially if campbell's out a must-start guy he did not have a great game against jaguars in week three but i still trust him you know he's he's been fairly consistent with his targets and production in the two games that he's come back from the calf injury. And then for the Jaguars, look, I think if I'm not mistaken, slot receivers have done well against the Texans.

And Kirk should hopefully follow suit, but that also leads itself to Ridley, maybe if he's getting in the slot. I think all four of these guys are, I have them ranked as starters. So it just depends on what you're looking at. You think high-scoring game or good fantasy production in this game? I think good fantasy production.

You know, I can't sit here and say high-scoring game without expecting Lawrence to play well, and I don't expect Lawrence to play well. But we've seen that this season where the receivers have gotten numbers. He's been basically a one-touchdown guy or a two-touchdown guy with some interceptions or turnovers. And I think that's kind of where he'll be.

I think he'll be in the 18- to 20-point range. I just don't think he's going to eclipse what he's done, which he's only done once, been 21 or 22 points. He only has three games over 20 points this year. Right, and only one game over 22, right? Mm-hmm. Okay, what do you think about the Texans running backs with Devin Singletary practicing this week? Their offensive

coordinator, Bobby Slowick, said before week 11, he said that he thought he believed in splitting carries and that nothing had changed after. That was after Devin Singletary's first big game. After he went for 30 carries, 150

yards, and a touchdown against the Bengals. Then he followed that up with 22 carries, 112 yards, and a touchdown against the Cardinals. What do you think if Pierce plays? What do you think if Pierce doesn't play? I mean, how do you go away from that? It just doesn't make sense to me. Make Pierce the second guy.

Give him some work. Maybe not give, for your team's perspective, don't give Singletary 20 plus carries maybe give him 18 and give Singletary you know give Pierce four to five and maybe a target or two in the passing game but I I think if like I'm going to downgrade Singletary I have him as a start and start set I'm going to take him out because it just doesn't feel safe to tell people to start him but still as a flex I can't get away from what he he has been and really what I think is not an awful matchup. Jacksonville has given up some production to running backs

over the course of the season when they've seen work. I think that's what will hopefully be the case for Singletary. They're good per carry, Jacksonville. 3.62 yards per carry to running backs. They are bad in the passing game. Fourth most receiving yards per game to running backs. Not exactly. Part of that is the Camara game, though.

Yeah, let me see. What else? Kyle Ustrick caught a touchdown. McCaffrey had six for 47. Najee Harris had 42 yards. Jonathan Taylor had 46 yards. Zach Moss had 38 yards. Camara had 12 for 91.

So definitely that is part of it. Jacksonville has allowed 24 or more receiving yards through running back in eight of their last nine games. 24 is not a huge number. You look at what the Texans passing game is, by the way, it is downfield, downfield, downfield. C.J. Stroud, his ADOT the last three weeks has just been ridiculous. And let's see it's been 11 11.9 and 10.1 intended air yards per pass attempt three straight weeks that's crazy and Tank Dell has

really been the downfield guy for them so he's really benefited from it Dalton Schultz is top eight for everyone in all formats and what about Evan Ingram can he get back on track because the last two games have been terrible for him. But really, I wish I had brought this up earlier. Earlier in the week, those were really tough matchups. They were San Francisco and Tennessee.

They're both top four against tight ends. Houston's 31st. What do you think? Yeah, I said this last week that I didn't like the matchup against Tennessee. They're the only team yet to allow a touchdown to a tight end. We know he hasn't scored this year. But I didn't like the matchup against Tennessee. They only teamed yet to allow a touchdown to tight end. We know he hasn't scored this year. But I said, look at the next two games.

It's Houston and Cincinnati, and those are the two worst teams at stopping tight ends. So in one league, I made a trade for Evan Ingram for this specific reason. As a Kyle Pitts manager, I traded Gus Edwards and Pitts for Ingram and Madison. And so with the hope that Ingram starts to get hot, some touchdowns will come. I think he'll probably end the season with four or five. So you have the chance to maybe capitalize on some big games coming. And this could be one of them. He had seven for 67 in that week three game.

So, you know, big part of what the Jacksonville offense was then. And you've seen some big tight end games against the Texans of late seen some, you know, big tight end games against the, the Texans of late. So, you know, Kate Otten game, I believe Kate Otten's big game came against them, if I'm not mistaken. Um, you know, and, uh, no, McBride was okay. Um, but not to the level that I think you hoped given the matchup, but I think Evan, Evan Ingram qualifies as a borderline top five guy

in PPR for this week. Even Kyle Pitts was good against his team even kyle pitts is good against seven catches for 87 yards on 11 targets uh let's see we got mr rational asking mcbride ingram or ferguson who do i start mr irrational with how many times yeah seriously you don't have to do it five times it's it's obnoxious uh 10 seven times eight times wow Wow. You're going McBride here, though, right? Yeah. And again, another situation where, you know, if you haven't, trade deadline hasn't passed.

Make a deal. Okay. All right, we can take a break here. When we come back, Cleveland's at Denver. Who wants some punts give them away in this game we'll be right back on fantasy football today okay ready to get excited about

David Njoku Cleveland's at Denver and your stat of the game the Broncos allow the most fantasy points to tight ends a tight end has 50 yards or a touchdown in 7 of 10 games against the Broncos Evan Ingram from our last game or David Njoku from our current game has 50 yards or a touchdown in seven of 10 games against the Broncos. Evan Ingram from our last game or David Njoku from our current game.

Give a slight lean toward Ingram because I trust his quarterback more, but my gosh, 15 targets for David Njoku from TTR, 24 targets in his last two games. His floor is as consistent as you can find for a tight end. I think it's six of seven with 10 plus PPR points. Just not a lot of big plays and clearly non-PPR, but the same thing for Ingram. They're just not scoring touchdowns.

And I do favor the matchup for Jacksonville. But let me look at the over-under, 36 points. I mean, last week, Pittsburgh Cleveland was 32, and they crushed the under. So this just feels like another ugly game coming for these two teams. And Njoku is as close to a must-start guy in this game as you can find. When I started thinking about this game, I didn't really like Jerome Ford. But the more I thought about it, I really think Denver's offense is going to struggle mightily.

And Ford's going to have plenty of chances to carry the ball. And this is maybe the worst run defense in football, Denver. They're so bad. But I do think Javante versus Ford is an interesting debate here. Because I initially was Javante, but I think seeing all the rankings and thinking about the way this game might play out, I think I'll go with Ford. But you're definitely Ford, right? Yeah. I mean, we saw last week the pitfalls of what Javante could be when he's not getting 20 plus carries and he's not finding the end zone as a pass catcher. And Samadji Piran had seven catches on seven targets. And Javante was not that guy because they

weren't throwing to him on first and second down. So this is going to be a slug fest, you know, field goal fest. You mentioned a lot of punting. Um, Cleveland's defense is awesome. There really are.

You know, if they make it to the playoffs, you know, kudos to Jim Schwartz and miles Garrett and that crew, uh, for getting there because they're not going to do it as an offense. But yeah, I think you just look at,

I mean, the, the bills couldn't run the ball to save their lives. And both Latavius Murray and James Cook with James Cook fumbling multiple times, big games, you know, last week, both Minnesota guys, big games. And I think potentially big games coming for not just drone for, but also cream hunt. You know, like I would start creamareem Hunt over Javante Williams. That's how confident I am in this run defense being that bad. They are that bad, but I think the Browns run defense is good. Not great.

I mean, their past defense is a lot better. It's like they gave up a big play to Jalen Warren last week. Like that's not going to happen for Javante Williams. Well, no, he doesn't have that kind of speed. But remember, Javante Williams had 27 carries against the Chiefs

and 21 carries against the Bills. And then he had 11 carries last week against the Vikings. And why did he have 11 carries? Well, they were trailing for a lot of that game. And the Vikings have a great run defense. I mean, it's much better than the Chiefs. It's much better than the Bills. It's probably much better than even the Browns.

The Vikings have a ridiculously good run defense. As far as those seven catches went for Pirine, four of them were on the game-winning drive. So it was a bad game script for Javante Williams. I don't think that's happening here. I think they're favored. It's going to be, I think, a pretty close neck-and-neck game.

They could obviously be trailing. That would suck. But I think they'll be in it. I think he gets more carry. I don't know why it was such an even split last week between Kareem Hunt and Jerome Ford. Because it seemed like Ford had really been establishing himself as RB1 there. And then they had about

the same amount of carries last week. So that's what concerns me a little bit there. Yeah, I mean, like I'm saying, I feel like both Browns running backs could have the chance for big games, or both could stink. But I'll look at this matchup. It's bad. That defense is bad.

And they just lost Kareem Jackson, who's a big part of the run defense, too. Well, yeah, but he's probably going to save them a couple of 15-yard penalties. That's true. Would you start Javante Williams or Alexander Madison against the Bears? Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, or Javante? Warren, Javante Harris. Just wait till we get to that game.

My Jalen Warren stat tie your shoes. Cause it's going to knock your socks off. If you don't sit Amari Cooper. Yeah. I mean, two games with DTR have been ugly. Why do you guys have defense? Oh yeah. No, no.

I sit sit Amari Cooper. Like, just forget it. I think, I think we both said we're no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm so pissed about that one last week because I lost a fantasy game on that play. But yeah, this defense sucks. It's great. It sucks for receivers. Yeah, let's see.

They give up the second fewest points to receivers. Let's see who's had good games against them. I think I have that, actually. Let's see who struggled against them. These are the wide receivers who have failed to score 13 points against the Browns. Chase Higgins, Hopkins, Ayuk, Flowers twice, Metcalf, Marquise Brown, Deontay Johnson. None of them scored 13 PPR fantasy points. Who did? Josh Downs had a huge game.

Big play. Pickens had a big play. Michael Pittman had two catches for 83 yards and a touchdown. Pittman had a huge game. Big play. Pickens had a big play. Michael Pittman had two catches for 83 yards and a touchdown. Pittman had a big play. Yeah, you almost have to luck your way into... Oh, Tyler Loggett had a big game. You almost have to luck your way into production against this team. So how does Sutton compare to... Looks like a very cold bottle that you've got there.

Is that one of those keeps it extremely cold bottles? It's a swell bottle, yes. Okay. I got this. This one was a gift from the city of Minnesota for the Super Bowl. They gave them away as a media night. Yeah, that's what they need to do in Minnesota, keep things colder. Am I right, folks?

Where's my... Thank you. So how does Sutton compare to Garrett Wilson and Jalen Waddell? Right now I have him ahead. I should probably put him behind. I don't know that you should. I've been telling you this week 12, man. Everybody's matchup's terrible.

Don't like anyone. But he's just touchdown dependent. I mean, I hate those guys. Yeah, but they're the touchdown dependent. He's like the Gus Edwards of receivers. He gets all of these end zone targets. Yep. How about this stat?

There are 66 receivers with 40 or more targets. Sutton is 14th in average route depth. He's running deep routes, but he's 45th in ADOT. So he just, Russell Wilson refused to throw it downfield.

We're sitting Judy, and that's it. Which DST do you like better? The Browns. Okay. Pittsburgh's at Cincinnati. I got a joke for you. I sent this to you.

I'll tell it on the air. Oh, please. Why did Dracula take cold medicine? Why? To stop his coughing. The other one you said was better. What's the leading cause of dry skin? What is it?

Towels. It's terrific. All right, Pittsburgh's at Cincinnati. Your stat of the game. I love this. Love it. Over the last three weeks, Jalen Warren has the 19th most carries among running backs, but he has the most rushing yards in the NFL. Jalen Warren is averaging 9.1 yards per carry in his last three weeks,

but this is my favorite part of it. He has 35 carries. He has gained 10 or more yards on 13 of them. That is an unbelievable ratio. 35 carries. He has 13 of them with 10 or more yards. There have only been 14 running backs all season with 13 carries of 10 or more yards. And by the way, the Bengals allow the sixth most running back carries of 10 or more yards. He's on fire.

I'm fascinated by this game in particular because you have the Steeler side of things. They just fired their offense coordinator. And we have no idea what this offense is going to look like. Is there going to be more passes? Is it going to be Najee over Warren? Warren over Najee? You know, like what's going to take place for Pittsburgh?

Can we finally get some, you know, just let's just see what we got with Kenny Pickett and pre-snap motion and all these things that we just haven't seen from Pittsburgh and just more creativity. And then you got the other side with no Joe Burrow and what this offense will look like with Jake Browning. I mean, there's just so many things that play so many things. I hope what I hope is,

you know, and the things we've talked about a lot throughout the course of the season is we see more Warren, less nausea, just to see what that looks like. We see more of a, of a route tree for pickings and to see what that looks like. Or we just get back to,

you know, if you're on the other side of it, we get back to just peppering Deontay Johnson with targets. Cause that's been missing the last two weeks. Friar Muth gets this great matchup, you know, we'll see how he does. So there's just, there's so many things that could happen this week.

So many things. Would you start Warren over Mixon? I have them back-to-back right now. So Mixon 24, Warren 25. Yeah, it's just hard to see Warren getting 18 carries. It just seems sort of out of the realm of possibility. Well, I mean, you know, and this kind of speaks to maybe what could happen when Mike Tomlin was asked about the firing,

and he says, I want to see more points. So does that mean your best player is getting featured? And right now, Jalen Warren's a better player than Najee Harris. You know, I mean, I don't think Najee's completely washed up. You know, I know there are a lot of things he doesn't do well, but I don't think he's completely washed up. I think he could still be a serviceable running back. But Jalen Warren's just better.

He just, he just runs better than, than Najee right now. There's more explosiveness. And so you're trying to not save your season because they're in playoff contention, but you're trying to be a legitimate contender. If you want to be a legitimate contender,

give Warren those chances. Yeah. Yeah. Could it, maybe it's the start of something. It could be, he also could use some more catches. He hasn't had a ton of those lately. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's the start of something. It could be. He also could use some more catches. He hasn't had a ton of those lately.

But all right, Mixon and Warren are on the cusp there. Charbonnet or Warren? Warren. I have a joke from the chat here. Why don't, some Cousin Ernest, why don't zombies eat clowns, Jamie? I don't know. Because they taste funny.

Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha. All right. Deontay Johnson. You feel optimistic about him? No. But, you know, again, it could totally change.

So starter and three receiver PPR leagues, I think sitting him in non-PPR makes sense just because of what we've seen over the last couple of seasons with Kenny Pickett. But, look look again, this could be Mike Sullivan,

new play caller. Let's get Deontay going. Let's get Pickens different options. Let's get Kenny Pickett. You know, I saw one, um, one Steelers beat writer say this move was totally about finding out what

they have in Kenny Pickett as much as about making the playoffs. That's finding out to see your guy. And you can't do that by him just handing off. He is not their guy. Yeah, I would guess that's the case. Yeah. So Cincinnati's given up 86 or more yards to five wide receivers in their last five games.

Lockett, Ayuk, Diggs, Noah Brown, and Odell Beckham. But it's hard to trust anybody right now. Look, the thing is, you look at what Pickett's done the last three games, it's been horrible. He's not that bad. He's not the worst quarterback in the history of planet Earth. He's averaging like 130

yards or something per game in his last three games. So it will get a little bit better. Tommy DeVito has more multiple touchdown games in his career than Kenny Pickett. It's unbelievable. Okay. Sit Pat Fryermuth. Sit Jake Browning. Joe Mixon's right on the border.

He's 24th for Jamie. And I'll go Mixon. I think I'm the low guy, right? Barely, but yeah. I'll go some receivers versus Mixon. Nico Collins or Mixon? Nico. Calvin Ridley or Mixon?

Mixon. Tyler Lockett or Mixon? Mixon. Okayon. Tyler Lockett or Mixon? Mixon. Okay. Interesting matchup. The Steelers, they have, I think, one carry since week... One carry in their last seven or eight games has gone for more than 16 yards.

It was A.J. Dillon had a 40-yard run. Something like that. So they've been pretty good against the run. Okay, Cincinnati wide receivers. Let's talk more about Jamar Chase. Definitely not starting Tyler Boyd. We're not expecting T. Higgins yet. We'll see if he practices.

But what do you think about Jamar Chase this week? A number two receiver. You know, it's sad to say that. That's funny because like i i know there are a couple leagues i have him in and a couple leagues i'm playing against him and you know like you go i like to look sometimes at the scoring preview on on our site to see who's favored and to see like jamar chase with the same fantasy points as uh you know not bad guys not bad receivers but like nico collins know, like stuff like that.

Like you don't, you don't expect that. You're like, oh, I win this matchup. No, I don't. You know, so I'm hopeful. You know, the thing that we saw at least, despite a really tough matchup last week against the Ravens, who have done well against Jamar Chase with Joe Burrow, he still scored the touchdown at the end.

And, you know, so is that a jumping off point? Is there something that you can say, okay, Browning will come in and feature him and hopefully get him still playing at the level and I'll go back. I've made the joke a few times. He said he's always bleeping open. Well, get open for your new guy, you know,

and give him some easy throws. Make it easy on him. So I'm not benching him by any stretch. Pretty interesting development. You mentioned a couple weeks ago I was kind of trashing the Steelers past defense that Joey Porter is kind of emerging. And I would not say that he shadowed Amari Cooper last week, but he was certainly on Cooper a lot and did a really nice job. And I wonder if they'll do that with him and Jamar Chase. Obviously, they'll give him help. But this kind of emerging rookie

cornerback is Joey Porter for the Steelers. And the Steelers, they are 24th against receivers. They've been pretty bad so far. They struggle against outside receivers. They might be getting better, but on paper, it's a great matchup for Chase. We usually don't even have to talk about matchups for Chase. Puka Nakua or Jamar Chase?

Puka with no cup. If cup plays, Chase. Cup if he plays or Chase? I don't know how much I'm going to trust cup. So I probably would rank Puka over cup. But I would downgrade Puka if cup plays. Puka with no cup out on the field would be a very dangerous thing for Puka Nakua. So he should reconsider.

Hit it. Rim shot. Chase or Devante Smith? I think I have him back-to-back with Chase one spot higher. And I want to say one thing about Jake Browning. I did think he looked okay, except on one thing, deep balls. He was horrible. So he did not do well there.

But it could just be low ADOT, a lot of catches for Chase. Which DSTD do you like better, Bengals or Steelers? Steelers. Kansas City's at Las Vegas. Patrick Mahomes is top four. At some point, we might have to accept that the Raiders have a good pass defense, by the way. This is not the layup on paper

that you would think, but Patrick Mahomes is fourth, so just start him. Pacheco is Jamie's start of the week. Start him. Pacheco or Chase? Chase. Any interest in Rasheed Rice? Number three receiver at best.

Like, I don't know what they're doing. I really don't understand. Like, I thought coming off the bye week, okay, let's get this kid going. You know, and you look at some of the routes, and he's not necessarily doing a lot of the things I think that Andy Reid wants or Mahomes wants. But, my gosh, you just saw your veteran guy drop a huge pass. You saw

another semi-veteran guy in Justin Watson get 11 targets, run some bad routes and drops. Play him 80% of the snaps. Give him a chance. Sky Moore's been a bust. Kadarius Toney's a bust. You need something to help

Travis Kelsey and Mahomes. And I don't know if he's the answer, but at least I'd like to see it happen to try. Troy Aikman said something during the game. See if I can look this up. Yards. Let's see. I think almost every one

of his catches has been 10 yards or shorter. Not gained, but where he caught it. And he's a five-yard ADOT. So I think at this point, you just can't expect anything. He's good after the catch, but he's just not a complete wide receiver.

He's just a short area guy. And that's all Rasheed Rice is right now, unfortunately. Okay, sorry if I misquoted Troy Aikman, but I mean, that sounds right because his ADOT is five yards. And start Kelsey, Sid O'Connell, Josh Jacobs, or Joe Mixon? Jacobs slightly.

I know you like Pacheco better than Jacobs. You are the low guy on Jacobs. Actually, no. Heath is the low guy on Jacobs in full PPR. Trying to figure out what's going on with the catches here. I mean, it seems like O'Connell's only throwing to Devontae Adams. But remember the catches here. I mean, it seems like O'Connell's only throwing to Devante Adams,

but remember that game that you mentioned earlier, that chargers game where Jacobs and O'Connell hooked up for 11 targets and eight catches. Well, the chargers just happened to be, you know, one of the worst against past catching running backs. They give up the second most receptions.

It's not necessarily about the catches. It's about the targets. Like they'd get, they gave him opportunities. They did. I wonder, I mean, is there something about the Chargers defense that makes quarterbacks dump it off? Do they play their – I don't know.

I think that's more a Josh McDaniels system thing than it is a current – I forget the offense coordinator's name, but the current system that they're using. And, all right, let's talk about Devontae Adams. We talked about him this morning going up against a team that is really good against receivers. Seventh best. But I remember

just a few weeks ago we were worried about him against the Jets and he had six catches for 86 yards on 13 targets. So, start or sit, Devontae Adams. He's right there with Jalen Warren. Jalen Waddell for me, excuse me.

Outside the top 24. I'll probably bump him up a spot as I adjust Cortland Sutton. Jalen Waddle for me, excuse me. Outside the top 24, I'll probably bump him up a spot as I adjust Cortland Sutton. The targets have been great the last two weeks. It's not just the Jets. He's also faced the Dolphins and he scored. That's the encouraging part. 12.6, I believe, is the number

or more in each of the last two weeks, PPR points. You've certainly made the case for LeJarius Need to be an all-pro. two weeks PPR points. But you've certainly made the case for Legereus Need to be an all-pro. It's deserving. Dude, I looked at his PFF coverage grade tonight. He's 121st

or something like that. His coverage grade against among corners. I don't get it. And his passer rating allowed is elite. He's got one of the lowest passer ratings allowed. I mean, I wonder how much they take into personal, you know, or pass interference calls because he gets flagged a lot.

Yeah, he does. I don't know. I don't know the formula there. I was reading a little bit about it. He said the Chiefs were saying, and he was saying specifically, the emergence of McDuffie on the other side has allowed him to shadow these guys because they're trusting McDuffie on the other side. But, I mean, you look at what he's done.

A.J. Brown, one catch for eight yards. Tyree Kill, 14 PPR points, well below his average. Keenan Allen, I don't know how much he was on Keenan Allen, but just the team limiting a number one receiver. Keenan Allen, minimal production. Justin Jefferson, before he got hurt, minimal production. They've just been erasing guys. That's the amazing one. I forget about that one. Three catches for 28 yards and he played three quarters of the game, Justin Jefferson. So it's, it's pretty impressive. And you know, you look at, okay, we've got four

games, the last four games for, for Dev Adams, two were awesome, or two were good. Not awesome by his standards, but two were good, and two were miserable. And so I probably think you go somewhere in between that because of the coverage, and that makes him not a must-start guy for me. Okay, someone asked Adams or Garrett Wilson. I'd go Wilson.

Okay, and sit Michael Mayer, start the Chiefs DST. Garrett Wilson. I'd go Wilson. Okay. And sit Michael Mayer, start the Chiefs DST. Carolina, Tennessee, and I don't mean to shortchange this game, but I think we could do this game in about 45 seconds. But here's your stat of the game. DeAndre Hopkins ADOT with Will Levis is 17.1 yards. That is way too high, way too high. He doesn't get any layups. You know, it's,

if he's going to make a big play, it's going to be on a flea flicker and a downfield shot, basically. Uh, but, uh, I asked you earlier Thielen versus Henry. I know you like both of them. I didn't ask you about Hopkins. Do you like Deandre Hopkins? Behind Adams, behind Waddle, closer to Josh Downs. So, number three receiver. Okay. And is there anyone else? Thielen and Henry are pretty close to must-starts. Yeah, I don't like the Panthers running backs. I think what we saw last week,

you got to be a little bit encouraged. Their yards per carry, you should love this, was fairly successful for them them oh yeah um put your pants back on um but uh um you know at what point they start to go back to sanders and and give him more work so yeah you know it's i don't think it's a layup matchup but it's not horrible i just think it's uh you know let me look at some of the over-unders we showed you 36 and a half 35 32 you know it's a layup matchup, but it's not horrible. I just think it's, you know, let me look at some of the over-unders we showed you. 36.5, 35, 32. Week 12.

By the end of the week, I want you to admit how crappy week 12 is. Oh, I don't disagree that it's crappy, but you said there are no good matchups. Nobody's got a good matchup, Shane. I'm sorry. Derrick Henry's got a good matchup. Adam Thielen has a good matchup. Derrick Henry, yes, these guys do have good matchups. Henry or Bijan? I'dup. Terry Henry. Yes, these guys do have good matchups.

Henry or Bijan? I'd go Bijan. Look, I mean, Henry is more of, okay, we have some things we can point to. Panthers, bad. Again, the stat I gave you earlier, 16.2 PPR points in six of seven games where they've been winning or seven points or less. I can't imagine that the Panthers blow them out.

So yeah, so, you know, wouldn't surprise me if Henry's a top five guy this week. Okay. Happy Thanksgiving, Jamie. You too, my friend. I feel like if we had another game to preview, we'd bring it into midnight. We're done. Schaefer, thanks for hanging out with us.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and to all of you out there. Again, really appreciate it. Great stuff. I know what uh player you won't be excited about tomorrow because you're not getting it what donald parham very true very true uh regretting it already that turkey that we bought the pre-cooked turkey looks pretty nice looks pretty nice and one of our listeners sent me cooking instructions, heating instructions.

He said he just cut up like hundreds of pounds of turkey to serve. I don't know where he works, but he knows what he's doing. We're going to crush this. It's going to be great. Did you kick Dan out of the league yet? No. We're going to give him a chance to defend himself on the mailbag. Is he going to yada, yada, yada?

You can't yada, yada, yada? You can't yada, yada, yada dynasty. See you later, everybody. Have a good day.