Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Tough RB Calls, Bounceback Games for Patrick Mahomes? Zay Flowers? Rome Odunze? (11/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

We get Week 12 started with players we love (3:00) and players to avoid (7:15)! Michael Wilson is poised for another big game Jared Goff is the Start of the Week. Meanwhile, you should try to avoid D...aniel Jones and Caleb Williams ... News and notes (12:00) and One Question for Each Game (19:30)! How do we feel about the Colts wide receivers and the Patriots running backs? Start or Sit Rome Odunze? Zay Flowers? Ken Walker? ... Start or Sit for Colts-Chiefs (27:50), Steelers-Bears (37:35), Jaguars-Cardinals (46:00), Patriots-Bengals (57:40), Browns-Raiders (1:05:25), Seahawks-Titans (1:09:35) and Jets-Ravens (1:12:55) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 No purchase necessary VGW Group voidware prohibited by law 21 plus TNCs apply. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! And you believe this? No, I can. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We're getting into week 12. Welcome to fantasy football today, presented by VETMGM, mega-legendary. We've got seven games to talk about today. Are we going to get a bounce back from Daniel Jones? Are we going to get a big week from the Lions offense? I feel a lot more confident in one of those two things. Are we even going to get Lamar Jackson this week?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Are we going to get Joe Burrow this week? Lamar Jackson did not practice while Joe Burrow practiced in full. Welcome, everyone. Adam Azer. Hello, Jamie Eisenberg. Hello, Adam Azer and Heath Cummings. Hello, Heath. I'm supposed to introduce Heath, but okay, whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Hello, Heath. Hey. What's up? It's up, guys. How's it going? Okay. All right. We got a seven-hour show.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We don't have time for how's it goings. You know, just easy the tension, baby. Indianapolis at Kansas City, Pittsburgh at Chicago, Jacksonville at Arizona, New England at Cincinnati, Cleveland at Las Vegas, Seattle at Tennessee, and the Jets at Baltimore. You know, my favorite thing is Heath from Adam is that whenever he tells us before a show, guys, we got to be quick, we can't take too long on a show. And then when we make this show quick, he's like, oh, we got us some time. Let's, let's, uh, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Of course. I'm just asking you for time for us to banter about nonsense at the end. All right. Let's get into the players we love this week. Jamie's got Jared Goff against the Giants, Alvin Camara against Atlanta, and Michael Wilson against the Jaguars. Yeah, golf is the start of the week. Excited to see him in his favorite scenario, huge favorites at home against a defense that stinks
Starting point is 00:02:52 against the past. And so hopefully this is the typical Jared Goff game where he goes crazy. Giants number three in terms of most fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks almost every quarterback this season has beat up on them. Secondary may be getting a little bit healthier but I don't think that matters in this case with what Dan
Starting point is 00:03:08 Campbell should allow Jared Goff to do like this is the Jared Goff scenario I love. Okay, Camara was an interesting one to see on there against the Falcons. So Falcons number four and most fantasy points allowed to posing running back for the season in the last
Starting point is 00:03:24 five weeks they're number one. And so you hope that what we saw from Camara going into his biweek, which was one of his best games of the season, 14 and a half PPR points, that we get that coming off the biweek with fresh legs. So as you see, if you're watching on YouTube, Sportsline, all in on Alvin Camara at 11. The rest of us, Keith, Dave, and myself, 23 to 25. So we're still treating him as more of a number two running back here on the lower end side. But I still think there's optimism. And for me, at least, I can't remember the last time I ranked him as a number two. running back. So I'm actually
Starting point is 00:03:57 may move him up a couple spots because I think this could be one of those better games. And obviously for Michael Wilson, he's not going to get 18 targets again. He's not going to get 15 catches again. He's not going to get 185 yards. But Jacoby Burset, three of five starts, 44 plus pass attempts. Marvin Harrison Jr., the two games before he left,
Starting point is 00:04:14 22 total targets, so 11 per game. I think we're looking at close to double digit targets from Michael Wilson in a very favorable matchup against Jacksonville. So this should be a borderline number one wide receiver, but a solid number two. option that you should be starting for almost every league okay i just look at camara's player page there's a lot of good matchups on paper left Atlanta Miami Tampa Bay uh Carolina
Starting point is 00:04:38 Carolina who he just had a good game against so maybe the best is yet to come we'll keep our fingers crossed on camara and please if you have an open roster spot stashed devine eel because he's the next man up and if camara gets phased out because they want to see what's happening with the rest of the roster or injury then we could be uh in line for you know, maybe a league one or down the stretch. All right, Heath, your three players that you love are Brock Purdy, Monday night against Carolina, Jacobi Brissette against the Jaguars, and obviously Jamie likes Michael Wilson, and I'm sure you do too, and James against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So we've got the Lions passing game represented and the Cardinals passing game represented, and Brock Purdy as well. Yeah, Brock Purdy came back, first game back, throws three touchdown passes. That's what the 49ers have done pretty much all season long. They have scored, what, 20 passing touchdowns, eight rushing touchdowns. They have been an efficient passing offense, which that you always are with Kyle Shanahan, but rank, I believe, 32nd in yards per attempt rushing. They have an implied total of 27.75.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I think Brock Party is just pretty close to a must-start quarterback rest of season. He's got his full compliments of weapons back except for Brandon Ayuk, and not sure they need. He'd bring in I yuk this year, so that'll be okay. Brissette, at least 23 fantasy points in every start. View him as a must start quarterback. Why not? Dave's got him top five. Why not?
Starting point is 00:06:06 And then James and Williams love the end breaking routes with Dan Campbell. Love the usage without Sam Leporta. Top 15 wide receiver. You were right at him. It only took a play color change and one of the top weapons getting hurt. I was right about that. What about James and Williams? You were, for a month earlier this season, you were wanting to start Jamison Williams.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Oh. He did good. Finally. He just needed a little circumstance change. Jamo or Michael Wilson? Jammo for me. Jamie? Wilson for me, but both over Justin Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Wow. And neither of them are called our Jefferson. It's a weird way. The emphasis there. All right. Sunday, join us on Sunday for. fantasy football today from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Goodbye Europe games. We'll see you next year.
Starting point is 00:07:04 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. We're answering your starter set questions. If you haven't been there, it's a lot of fun. We answer a ton of questions. We chat. We have a good time. We laugh. Players to avoid. Heath has Daniel Jones at Kansas City, Sean Tucker, Sunday night at the Rams, and Kareem Hunt in that Chiefs' Colts game as well. Go ahead, Heath. Yeah, Daniel Jones is on the road. Daniel Jones is outside.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I do not want to start Daniel Jones, and neither does anyone else below 20 fantasy points per game outdoors this season. Sean Tucker, even if Bucky's not back, I do not want to think that the rushing efficiency that he had against the bills is going to transfer over to playing against the Rams. And it's still, even last week when he was off, awesome, Rashad White's not just completely going away. I think you're probably in this game looking at somewhere around 12 rush attempts for Sean Tucker, which even if he's good is probably 60 yards instead of 180 yards. So he's a high-end flex if there's no Bucky Irving. I don't want to start him anywhere if Bucky Irving is back. Get away from Sean Tucker. Cream Hunt, kind of a same situation. Isaiah Pacheco's back. You see the rankings here. Mine has not been updated since we've added Pacheco to the rankings, but he is not actually going to be a top 30 running back for me.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Okay. And yeah, right, Pacheco being back is a bummer for Kareem Hunt. Jamie's three to avoid Ashton Genti against Cleveland, Caleb Williams against Pittsburgh, and Dalton Schultz tonight against Buffalo. So let me just give you a quick stat on Cleveland. Tell me if this changes your mind at all, because we have this idea that they're this dominant run defense, their fourth best against running backs. But over their last five games,
Starting point is 00:08:55 running backs are averaging or maybe six games since week four running backs are averaging four and a half yards per carry against cleveland does that change anything for you jamie i believe that gentie is uh or the offensive line for the raiders is generating like the least amount of yards per carry per rush um they're they're just not very good right now and i hope they're going to give him more than six carries i hope that he's going to perform better he's got four games this season with single digits in ppr he's coming off obviously a miserable game. I hope he's going to continue to be involved in the passing game, and that saved him last week. But, like you said, they are not, I think, reflective of what their defense actually
Starting point is 00:09:35 is. But I also think, like, this is just a bad spot for Genti right now because of what is going to potentially happen to Gino Smith in this offense. Like, I think Miles Garrett's going to make things pretty miserable for him. So Genti's got to score. He's going to have to, you know, get in the end zone. I think, Maybe he has another game with five catches, but at this point, the offensive line down to guys, you know, at least the two that, you know, R&I are in Miller and Jackson Powers, are really impacting how this game is being played for Genty at this point. So 24 is probably a little bit too low, and I don't think most people are sitting him across the board, but he's the, he's the bus alert for me in this scenario for the column this week. Um, in the case of Dalton Schultz, you know, he's playing the tight end erasers. Uh, they are amazing in terms of what they do to the position. And so, um, we saw it last week.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It was the same setup for KDOT. He was coming off this amazing stretch of games. And then they just completely take him out that the tight end production against them has been absolutely miserable. One guy with double digits and PPR is Travis Kelsey. Um, almost every tight end they face has had not season lows, but close to season lows. And it's been a good list of tight ends, but certainly guys, in the Dalton Shultz range.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And then what was the other one, Caleb Williams? Yeah, Caleb Williams against Pittsburgh. Yeah, he's been, you said this, I don't know if it was Sunday or at some point during a week. He takes advantage of great matchups. The Steelers, the last three games against opposing quarterbacks have been fantastic. And so he may be able to find his way into quality production, but this is actually a good week for quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:11:11 So I like, for example, I like Sam Darnold's situation against the Titans better. Jacoby Brissette, we've talked about. Brock Purdy, we've talked about. I like those guys better than Caleb Williams. So if you can get away from him this week, I would try to do so. Here's some good news, though, just for the fantasy community. It looks like we don't have a bad weather week this week. It looks like it's actually a really good weather week, a little bit warmer than it was last week.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It doesn't look like we're going to have that crazy wind. Lots of indoor games, too. Yeah. Okay, that's also good. But, yeah, I walked outside this morning. I was like, ooh, this isn't so bad. You guys are so lucky. I hate walking outside.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Did you say it like that? Kind of. Oh, you're like, man, I miss Florida. Okay, news and notes. Lamar Jackson missed practice with an ankle injury. He has now had hamstring, knee, and ankle injuries recently. They did not say he's definitely going to play this week. It's kind of hinted that he'd be on the same schedule as last week,
Starting point is 00:12:04 which was Miss Wednesday, get back at practice later in the week and play. Any downgrade right now, well, I'll ask you tomorrow. We'll see what happens with Amar Jackson today. Shudor Sanders is starting this week. Jackson Dart, still in the concussion protocol, but making progress. there. He's got a chance to play. Joe Burrow practiced in full. Jamie, we talked earlier before the show. You didn't seem to be taking it super seriously that he might play this week. How are you feeling about it? No, no, I'm taking it seriously, but you're, explain your dilemma.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Well, I mean, in a Super Flex League, I have both Texans quarterbacks. Obviously, I don't want to start them. I just picked up Mason Rudolph, so now I have both Steelers quarterbacks, and I have Joe Flacco. So I might have to start Davis Mills because if Joe Burrow plays, then I've only got the Steelers quarterbacks after Thursday. And, yeah, I don't know. So that's kind of a bummer. No one else really has to have this dilemma because, you know, you're starting Josh Allen tonight.
Starting point is 00:13:00 You're not starting Davis Mills tonight in almost any league. But yeah, look, he practiced last week. He's practicing in full right now. There's a report that just came out from Ian Rappaport, from Zach Taylor, on a show, on radio show in Cincinnati just now. asked about Joe Burrow he said if Joe Burroughs playing Sunday he said I'm not there yet okay I mean I think you said nobody's starting Davis Mills this week but in a super flex league if your only options were Davis Mills or Joe Flacco looks that way now you could
Starting point is 00:13:38 start you could start a non quarterback which I might do right yeah but right but we'll see what happens today, but it still seems like right now, our guess is he's not playing this week, Gregorough. CJ Stroud is out, Aaron Rogers missed practice, but he's got a chance to play, and Michael Pennix. So Pennix did not tear his ACL, but he still needs
Starting point is 00:14:00 reconstructive surgery, and he's going to be out about nine months, Michael Pennix. What a bummer. Oh, man, this guy who's had two ACL injuries in college. Running back news. Hey, Trey Benson, the practice window has been opened. Once a guy is off I-R, or, you know, the
Starting point is 00:14:16 practice window's been open from i.R. He has 21 days to play or he has to miss the rest of the season. So Benson's practicing, or at least he's got the, the clock has started. Josh Jacobs missed practice. Jalen Warren mispractice. Not a surprise, but both of those guys are trying to get back for this Sunday. Bucky Irving was limited. Liam Cohen, first of all, Bejel Tootin was limited, but Liam Cohen said that Tudin and the Quint Allen, who basically just plays on passing downs, have been practicing better. And And that's why Tutin earned more playing time. But it seems like he's going to play.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I mentioned yesterday that Ken Walker may get more work. Somaget Pyrine is doubtful. That's good news for Chase Brown. Isaiah Pacheco practiced in full, as Heath mentioned. That's bad news for Kareem Hunt. And Ramandre Stevenson practiced. Are you guys expecting Stevenson to play at Cincinnati? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yep. Okay. He was limited, though, and so that's where he was at the beginning of last week, too. So it's not a sure thing. It will make a big difference in my trivia on Hendon. in ranking. I don't think you should panic in any stretch about Trevion. And I do think that if you're stuck this week and you have Ramonja on your bench, you could probably use them. Remember, this is a team in the Bengals. Four running back duos have scored 11 plus ppr points against them this season.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And if you get 11 out of Stevenson, you're pretty happy about that. I think you still get 15 plus out of Trevion. We'll see how they use them. But for me going into it, I would not be afraid of really either one if I was stuck with really, you know, forced to be using Stevenson, but Trevion is still very highly ranked for me. Okay. So if Stevenson plays, you just said you like Camara as a number two running back, borderline number two. Camara or Stevenson? Stevenson will not crack my top 24, but you're leaving that next group of guys. I meant Henderson. Sorry. Henderson or Camara? Yeah. Henderson. So, okay. Yeah, it'd be probably Camara for me if Stevenson plays. Oh, okay. Okay. So we will preview that game in a little bit. I'll give you another
Starting point is 00:16:11 stat about the Bengals and running backs. We'll see if it could continue. Marvin Harrison Jr.'s out. Xavier Worthy, mispractice with an ankle injury. Brian Thomas Jr. was limited as he was last week. Khalil Shakir is going to play tonight. Darius Slayton mispractice. Drake London could be back next week.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That's great news for him. That would be at the Jets. Kishon Booty practiced. Jaden Reed mispractice and every other Packers wide receiver was limited. So it looks like they are going to be pretty healthy. They might get Reed back, but right now we're thinking no. Rashad Bateman mispractice. Tori Horton mispractice.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Chimari Dike practiced in full while Ellick Isle Manor mispractice, and Chris Godwin was limited. So limited for Godwin and Bucky Irving again. David Adjoku's day-to-day, Dalton Kincaid is out. Isaiah likely mispractice with a calf issue. It looks like Austin Hooper is making good progress from the concussion protocol. Tyler Higby is on IR for the Rams and Micah Sicki. We talked about him getting his practice window open. Offensive line who's not only is Lane Johnson out four to six weeks, but center Cam Jurgens for the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:17:10 he's in the concussion protocol. I can't wait to break down that game tomorrow. Philadelphia is at Dallas. Minnesota Center Ryan Kelly practice and both Detroit offensive tackles miss practice, but that is not unusual for a Wednesday, and they typically play. And then I'll skip the defensive stuff,
Starting point is 00:17:27 except I will tell you that linebacker T.J. Edwards for Chicago, he missed practice. And I keep saying it. Whenever he has played, their run defense has been really good. Whenever Edwards has not played, the Bears' run defense has been horrible. So he misses practice to start the week and they get Pittsburgh. All right, sorry for babbling.
Starting point is 00:17:44 We'll take a break. One question for each game when we come back. You know, some trips are just better when you can really unplug, spend time with family, see friends, or hit the course with the guys on our yearly golf trip. This year, me and the boys stayed in a home on Airbnb, which happened to be a guest favorite, and it was right on the course. We could walk straight to tee off every morning,
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Starting point is 00:19:38 No purchase necessary VGW Group. Voidware prohibited by law 21 plus TNCs apply. One question for each game. Indianapolis is at Kansas City. How do you feel, Heath, about the Colts wide receivers? Chiefs allow the eighth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Michael Pittman's a low-end wide receiver two. Alec Pierce is a boom-bust wide receiver three.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I don't want to start any other Colts-wide receivers. Pittsburgh's at Chicago. Jamie, start or sit, Romo Dunzee. So he said the other day how bad wide receiver is for the week. And just in listening to his answer, like I have two Colts wide receivers in my top 24. I'm definitely starting Romo Duncee this week. We have a show on HQ this afternoon that we do starts and sits,
Starting point is 00:20:29 and we have to send in five starts and five sits. And the list always comes out really late. And so I'm always sending like players 10 through. 15 on the start sit list and I did not put a wide receiver on the sits because I can't find any wide receivers to say to sit. I write
Starting point is 00:20:47 a very lengthy article every week if I was starting to sit and that was the toughest position I had to deal with was okay yeah, let's just live in the wide receiver three range because anybody that's in the wide receiver two range, you have to start this week. Okay. Yeah, Pittsburgh is allowed 90 or more yards
Starting point is 00:21:03 to 10 wide receivers in 10 games. But mostly just studs, and hopefully Romo Dunzee can stay in that category. Jacksonville is at Arizona. Heath, would you start anyone in the Jacksonville passing game? Oh, I might start lots of people in the Jacksonville passing game. Like, if, assuming Brian Thomas Jr. is out, then I think Jacoby Myers and Parker, Washington, are both wide receiver 3s.
Starting point is 00:21:28 If Branton Strange is back, he's a borderline tight end one, probably a high-end tight-end two. I'd prefer not to, but there's certainly, if you're starting three wide receivers, I think you have to consider a Jacksonville wide receiver. Not Trevor Lawrence, though, right? I don't want to start Trevor Lawrence unless I'm a Super Flex League. I do have to start them in a 14-team 1 QB league, but that's the way things are. Yep. New England's at Cincinnati. Trevion Henderson in this great matchup, or Chase Brown in this brutal matchup, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:22:00 I will start Henderson with or without Stevenson. over Chase Brown. Definitely not the same answer for Heath, right? Nope. I'll start Henderson over Brown if Romandre is out. I'll start Brown over Henderson if Remandre's in.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The updated stat of the game is Cincinnati has still allowed 16.7 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every single game. Holy moly, that's a lot. So that's going to be tough for Henderson if Ramonre plays,
Starting point is 00:22:29 but probably very attainable if he doesn't play. And then Chase Brown, you've got to hope for that passing production, right? You know, so because the run... I mean, he might have double-digit targets, really, with no chase especially. He's been so involved in the passing game. And now they don't have the guy they've been throwing 35% of their passes, too. Cleveland is at Las Vegas, Vagish.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Heath, Ashton Genty or Quinchon Judkins? Definitely Ashton Jentee for me. And it's just the fact that he has 18 targets and 14 catches in his last three games. like they've really made it focus they're not running the ball anymore that's frustrating but he's I think you should expect four or five catches minimum from him
Starting point is 00:23:11 and it's not like Cleveland's going to run away in this game probably a very low scoring game but plenty of opportunities for the Raiders to run the ball more than six times Jim you give that stat about the Raiders generating the fewest yards whatever their offensive line I wonder where Cleveland ranks in there too because Judkins is probably not far behind you
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, these two guys are getting no help. Who would you go with, Jamie, Judkins or Gentie? Judkins slightly, just because I know that they're going to run the ball. I think Heath is right. I don't expect either team to be well ahead one way or the other. But, you know, looking at these two teams and how they're probably going to operate, you know, both quarterbacks are probably going to struggle. You know, it's which defense do you trust.
Starting point is 00:23:53 They're both obviously not great offensive environments. But I know Judkins getting the ball. next game Seattle at Tennessee can't wait for this one Jamie starter set Ken Walker this should be a good game for Walker if Mike McDonald sticks to what he says you know so he said on Monday that they're going to give him more opportunities I know the Titans run defense with Jeffrey Simmons is much different than without but given what Walker started to show us certainly last week and I know some of it was circumstantial when he was on the field how he scored his touchdown getting more involved in the passing game but it was his
Starting point is 00:24:27 first touchdown since week three it was the most receiving yards that he had in the game this season. It tied his season high in targets and receptions. So give him two or three catches, give him an opportunity to work at the goal line, and hopefully he can break a run here. I just expect the Seahawks to have the ball the entirety of the game.
Starting point is 00:24:44 This could be a murderous situation for the Titans. And so if they give him more opportunities, I think eventually he'll crack a big play or two and have the chance to be successful. So I would start him personally over Judkins and Genty this week. I think there's more upside for him.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Okay. That's Ken Walker we're talking about it. By the way, it's not just Jeffrey Simmons. There's three players that were healthy last week for the Titans. It was, and they're all edge rushers or defensive linemen. Tavandre Sweat, Jeffrey Simmons, and Arden Key. They all played last week and it made a big difference for them. But if you take Jeffrey Simmons away, he's the biggest difference. Absolutely. But they're all important players for them. Jets are at Baltimore. Brees Hall or Zay Flowers? Who you starting? It's Brees Hall for me, but they are very, very close, and you're probably not making this decision because you have to start Zayflowers at wide receiver because there's no good wide receivers this week. So I can't imagine I have Zayflowers to flex. That'd be awesome. But, yeah, it's Breece Hall slightly. You brought up five running backs already, or I've asked about five running backs already. I'll throw David Montgomery in there, too, just because of what his season has been.
Starting point is 00:25:51 But you got Montgomery, Camara, Walker, Genty. Hall and Judkins like all of these guys have so many question marks or have been struggling of late some in the case of Walker and Camara have good matchups but like yeah what was the question you asked a few weeks ago confident start maybe start like reluctant start reluctant start like that's where these guys are right now like Hall Judkins and Gentie for me are all such reluctant starts yeah are they reluctant have them all in various leagues and not thrilled about closer to sits. They would be sits if we had better options.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Is running back bad too? At the tail end of it, yeah. It's a lot better than wide receiver, in my opinion. But it's just like everything's kind of bad. Yeah. All right. Well, I wonder if that's because we're coming off such a bad fantasy week, you know, where.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Well, I think it's because, like, I looked at it, I haven't looked at the running back position, but you look at ADP from the beginning of the year, 15 of the top 36 wide receivers are not playing this week. And we've got a dozen running back committees or more.
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Starting point is 00:28:19 So maybe that says something for Alec Pierce because he's a big play machine. And the stat of the game I had was that the Colts have allowed 16.9 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in three straight games, but I don't think that's going to happen now. I have a stat of the game for you. Let's do it. Let's do it. And I actually am going to actually quote the person who put it on Twitter as opposed to just saying some random person put it on Twitter. Curtis Siebel from Sports Radio 810. The Chiefs are the 15th team since 1990 to be 500 or worse this late in the season and be favored against a team with a winning percentage over 800. The previous 14 teams are 14 and out.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I mean, the Colts, oh, that's funny. Wow. And 12-0 and 2 against the spread. When the Colts beat the Broncos in week two, I think, it was pretty eye-opening. They've had the, well, did they beat, they won at the Chargers, right? They've had some good wins, but this is going to be a tough game for them. So let's do the Colts, here we go. Daniel Jones is a sit for you guys.
Starting point is 00:29:23 he's 15th, 16th, any... Caleb Williams or Daniel Jones. Caleb? Do you know what quarterbacks have done in the five games in Kansas City? No. And it's a pretty good list. So you have Jalen Hertz,
Starting point is 00:29:38 Lamar Jackson left in the game, but obviously we're not playing well before then. Jared Goff is the only one to go over 20 fantasy points, ironically enough, outdoors. Mariotta had a 13-point game. Who am I missing? Well, Justin Herbert was not in Kansas City, right? I think that was a Chief's home game, but that was in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:29:59 No, anyway, five quarterbacks, they have not done well in Kansas City. So, as Heath said, it's basically been one good road game for Daniel Jones so far this season, and it was the game in Los Angeles, one of the two. And so outdoors, this has just not been where he's thrived so far this season. He's 17.5 points or less in every outdoor game, if you factor in the one in Germany. So this is just not the best scenario for him. Start Jonathan Taylor. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Start Tyler Warren. Yep. All right, let's get a little bit deeper. Heath, I asked you, you know, for the brief, what do you feel about the wide receivers? You know, what are you, talk to me about the Colts wide receivers here. You've got Alec Pierce who's having, I don't want to say historic, but an unusual season. For someone with his A-DOT to get this many targets, he's got, he's one of the leaders in Air Yards in the NFL. You know, it's really exciting if you can keep getting targets, but there are a lot of games with like five targets in there. So how are we feeling? I was going to say, like, he has had a lot of targets lately for sure. He had 13 against the Steelers. He had 10 against the Chargers. He has one other game this season with more than five targets. So that's why he's boom bust. That's why the bust potential exists is he could have four or five targets in this game. He remarkably led the NFL
Starting point is 00:31:20 in he averaged more yards per reception last year than this year 22 yards per catch last year 20.9 this year may lead the league in yards per catch two years in a row but still with that profile he catches 53% of his targets because every throw is 20 yards downfield and if you have five targets in the game it might be a two or three catch game so there's the upside that he could score 10 points on most just about any given play but there's the downside that he could score five points in the game and i think just to the overall theme of you know we'll probably talk about this with this late tomorrow too like with the receivers being as bad as they are like for me i'm going to take a chance on this player more so than a jacksonville receiver for example because
Starting point is 00:32:08 the targets may be the same that's not like jacobie meyers for example is getting uh an an exceptional amount of volume right now. And Parker Washington, same thing. You know, Jared, Trevor Lawrence has been under 30 past empty to the last two weeks. So, like, I'll take a chance on this type of player where I think we're going to see the Colts have to throw a little bit more than normal.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And so what he's done, 20 targets is last two weeks, I think they've tried to unleash him. And I think that they will continue to try to unleash him, whether it's successful or not, that remains to be seen, tough matchup. But I like the setup here for Pierce more so than most. would you start him over the kind of safe Khalil Shakir Wondale Robinson's of the world
Starting point is 00:32:46 I think I have him ahead of both those guys Robinson's the one that will probably be swayed by Dary Slayton not that we're ranking Slayton but I think if Slayton's ruled out as much as Isaiah Hodgins was basically Slayton I'll probably bump Wondell up a couple spots but Shakir against the Texans I'd rather start Pierce against the chiefs Heath same question to you I'll start Robinson and Shakir over Alec Pierce
Starting point is 00:33:09 and then Josh Downs that he'd your top 36 this week? Yes. He did not. Okay. He's won that game really in his last five. And so, again, this is like a charger situation. Somebody's going to get left out.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Somebody's going to have a decent game. You know, you kind of just based it on, I think, either recency bias or, you know, who's got the most upside. I don't know how you want to view it. Clearly, matchups are going to come into play as well. Pittman's been the most consistent. Pierce is the one that's hot lately. Downs has just kind of quietly been in that.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He's basically been a Shakur, you know. 11 to 12 VPR points on a bad week prior to the last game where we only had a minimum amount of targets. Like, I think somebody is going to have some, there'll be two guys that have decent production in this game. I think the key for Downs has just been, does he score a touchdown? Like he didn't have a touchdown in the first five games that he played this season. He had three in a row, and so he had good fantasy production. He doesn't have a game with 60 yards this year. Okay, next step we got Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Bounce back for Mahomes? Yeah, it could be. He's been great at home. Absolutely fantastic at home. Drake May or Mahomes? May. Jared, go off for Mahomes. Golf for me, but that's close.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I have Mahomes one spot higher. All right. Star Patrick Mahomes. Before his last two games at Buffalo and at Denver, he had scored 28.7 or more fantasy points in five straight games. So the Chiefs running backs, are they avoids now, assuming Pacheco plays? Yes. I still think Hunts a flex.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You know, you are talking about touchdown potential. How much will they give Pacheco in his first game back? It's not as much optimism, clearly, because Pacheco is going to be healthy. But it's not like Pacheco was the dominant running back in his back. Rishie Rice, bounce back, easy start? Yep. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And remember that, so this secondary for the Colts, kind of looks pretty good. They've got Kenny Moore back. He missed some time. He's their slot guy. Obviously, have Soss Gardner now. And they just opened the practice window for Charverius. Ward who's had a concussion.
Starting point is 00:35:13 So Colt's defense used to be kind of a, I think, a fantasy layup, but I don't know that it is anymore, but obviously you're starting Rishi Rice. But in this horrible wide receiver week, what about Xavier Worthy, Heath? I really don't want to start him. The nice thing is he's getting the downfield opportunities. The bad thing is he and Patrick Mahomes for the second straight year can't get on the same page on those opportunities. Sometimes it's Mahomes makes a bad throw.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It's Worthy makes a bad play on the ball. He is a top 36 wide receiver, but he's closer to the bottom of the wide receiver three range than the top of the wide receiver three range. I think Jamie or Dave for today's show put Jordan Addison as a sit, and I agree with that, but I would start Jordan Addison over Xavier Worthy. Would you start, oh, let's see, Josh Downs or Xavier Worthy? Worthy for me. Jamie?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Downs for me. Okay. And who's the best tight end in this game? I would go Warren, but it wouldn't surprise me if Kelsey's better. They're basically back to back. They are back to back for me, and I've got Kelsey one spot higher. Another fun stat of the game, Kelsey is on pace for the fourth highest receiving yardage total for a player, not a tight end, a player 36 or older. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Listen, stat of the game is kind of my thing, Heath. Well, I mean, you should have some better ones. The top three in that number? 40-year-old Jerry Rice, 39-year-old Jerry Rice, 36-year-old Jerry Rice. I was going to say, Rice has to be up there. I didn't realize all three. Rice has all the top three seasons. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:53 That's a great stat of the game. One of your best. Questions from the chat? Chiefs DST or the Raiders against the Browns? I would go Chiefs just because Daniel Jones sacked ten times in his last two games and a lot of turnovers in that span, too. Like, there's a big opportunity here for the Chiefs D.S. They're both top 12, but I would go Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So I've got, for Daniel Jones in his last two games, 12 sacks, four interceptions, six fumbles, three of them lost. Josh Downs or Chimari, D.K. or Trey Tucker? I'll go down. I've got it. Tucker Downs, D.K. And D.K. is in the concussion protocol, right? No, he's pretty.
Starting point is 00:37:36 He practiced. I think he had a chest injury, right? Chest injury. I think so. All right, that's it for the Chiefs and the Colts. The Chiefs DST just in general is about, what are they? Ninth, ninth and eighth for you guys, a little bit lower for Dave, unless they might not be updated. But they're start worthy. Pittsburgh is at Chicago.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Stad of the game. Heath, what do you got? You know, I'll see what yours is like and see if I need to add another one. Well, it's just a weird one. I don't really get it. but the Steelers see the most pass attempts in the NFL. Nine straight quarterbacks have thrown 33 or more passes against the Steelers. Four of them through 46 or more passes.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And Romo Dunezze has a 21% target share or better in almost every game. So if we can get 33 or more pass attempts from Caleb Williams, then that should make you feel better about their passing game. It's kind of a battle of two trends because the bears have gone a lot more run heavy since they're by, which has been part of the problem for Rome-A-Dunze. So whether or not Swift and Monongai have success may determine whether or not O'Donzee's good. All right. So if we talk, we're kind of reluctant to start Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:38:46 He's about 12th in the rankings. So you'd start Jacoby Preset over him. Let's see. Would you start, you wouldn't start a Steelers quarterback over Caleb, will you? No. No, no. Would you start Sam Darnel, that Tennessee? I would.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I would not. And then how do we feel about the Andre Swift this week, Keith? He is an RB2, right in the definitely ahead of that range, I think, of the RB2s you don't want to start. He is an okay RB2 as opposed to a reluctant RB2. Jamie, who's the best running back in this game? Steelers starter, if it's only gain well, for sure. Probably Steelers starter anyway if Jalen Warren is healthy. if Jalen Warren is going to be playing on a limited capacity
Starting point is 00:39:36 and we have this oh no tandem potential crap then I would probably lean towards Swift but he's also in a tandem potential crap so I probably just go if you tell me right now Warren's playing I'll probably go Warren Swift gain well Monongai in PPR Warren Swift game on and then someone's asks
Starting point is 00:39:57 are we assuming that Aaron Rogers is out So he said he's going to try and practice today. I'm going to go under the assumption he's not playing because if they still consider themselves a playoff team, why would you risk it one week after him playing with a broken wrist? Let me heal for a little bit. But listen, he's going to try and play. It's his non-throwing hand.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So at this point, there's very much uncertainty. We'll have a better idea after practice today. So if he doesn't practice today, then I would probably think no. But he spoke to the media yesterday and said that he's going to try and go out. I would not change a Steelers pass catcher projection based on this. Okay. And is there any interest in starting Rogers or Rudolph? The Bears give up the sixth most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:40:45 So I think if you're just looking at it, like, do you want a less than 100% Aaron Rogers? So if he takes a shot to his wrist and the pain is too much, he's going to leave the game. I would feel more comfortable at this point with Mason Rudolph. And look, last year, 18 or more fantasy points and four of his eight appearances for the Titans, he's not horrible in these spots, especially when the matchup is favorable. And really, to me, it's more about D.K. Metcalfe because we saw last year when Rudolph was playing,
Starting point is 00:41:13 he was better for Calvin Ridley. We saw it two years ago for Pickens, right? I think it was two years ago. Yeah. For George Pickens in Pittsburgh. Like, I think it actually might benefit D.K. Metcalfe that Rudolph might push the ball down the field with a little bit more. success. So Metcalf, I assume, would be the second best wide receiver in this game?
Starting point is 00:41:33 For me, yes. Metcalf versus the Colts wide receivers. How would you rank them? I have him behind both Pittman and Pierce. I'd go Pittman and Metcalfe Pierce. To me, Metcalf and Pierce are almost very similar at this point. Well, they're completely different players right now, though. Right, but I think with Rudolph, it changes a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yeah, I mean, they're similar in terms of there's a lot of risk and some potential, too. You know, look, he's still the number one option on the team. The Bears are 24th against wide receivers. Yeah, so it's ordinarily the Bears would be a passing defense that we'd be excited to start players against. We can't start a Pittsburgh tight end, right? They're getting Kyler Gordon back too, potentially. That's true. I think he's their slot receiver, their slot corner.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But still, it helps second there. So we can't start Pittsburgh tight end? I don't know how you can after they flopped against the Bengals. Well, Washington didn't. One of them will be good. You have no idea which one.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I love Darna Washington. He's becoming my favorite player. He's 311 pounds. You saw the interview. Yeah, right? Was that cool? I'm on Ross St. Brown. They're like, how much do you weigh?
Starting point is 00:42:50 This is 270s. He's like, I'm 311. I'm going to keep it a buck. I'm 311. And he's just running people over. It's amazing. but too unreliable. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So the Bears, DeAndre Swift, we already talked about him. We already talked about Romo Dunzee. He's a guy you have to start this week. Romo Dunzee or Michael Pittman? Pitman. I'd go Pitman. Romo Dunzee or Ashton Genty and Breece Hall and Quinchon Judkins? I would go to Dunzee, PPR.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I would go all of them over at Nitzie. Oh. You're just not, you're just nervous. He's because he's too bad. Yeah, I mean, I guess if we're going to, he's kind of doing the Kamane of Idael thing. So last week was a bad week. So this is supposed to be a good week for him. But it's just that the floor is extremely low for him right now.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It really is. Really is. 6.1 or fewer fantasy points in four of his last six games. Holy cow. Okay. And DJ Moore, we're not going to start. Luther Burdens a stash. Colston Loveland, Jamie, start or sit?
Starting point is 00:43:55 There's just too many better tight ends. and with Cole Commit there, it's too risky. Which DSTD you like better? Steelers. Heath? Yeah, I, um, the Steelers. No, if you want to start the Steelers,
Starting point is 00:44:11 because their defense is playing well, the Bears are a bad matchup. They don't turn the ball over and they don't take sacks. They could always take sacks if Caleb Williams stops. I think he's like coated in rubber. You cannot tackle this guy. People just bounce off of him. But they're giving up the third fewest fantasy points at DST.
Starting point is 00:44:27 and Chicago's DST has actually been all right this season. These low-end DSTs, I think, here. Low-end start, yeah. You can make a case for either one. I mean, clearly, look, if it's a banged-up Rogers, he's going to be, I'm sure, tentative. It's Mason Rudolph. There's always potential for him to, you know, be turnover-prone.
Starting point is 00:44:44 So you can make a strong case for the Bears, too. Jacksonville's at Arizona, when we come back, I'll give you a great stat on Trey McBride. Won't be as good as Heath's stat on Trey McBride, but I'll try. We'll be right back. In five games with Jacoby Reset, Trey McBride is averaging 24.5 PPR fantasy points per game.
Starting point is 00:45:00 That's almost as much as Jacoby Preset is averaging in six point per pass in touchdown leagues. And in that stretch, that would be good enough to tie him as wide receiver won with Drake London. Trey McBride is on pace for 20 touchdowns in five games with Jacoby Preset. Starters at Trey McBride. Okay, we'll start Trey McBride. All right, this game here, let's get into the, Trevor Lawrence is a sit. Let's get into the Jacksonville running back seat. What do you expect is you, the rankings here are very deep.
Starting point is 00:45:26 different when you look at E.T.N. versus Tudin for Jamie compared to Heath. Yeah, assuming Tudin is playing, I expect pretty close to a 50-50 or hot-hand approach in Jacksonville. In the first half of their game last week, both E.T.N. and Tuton had a 46% snap share. Tudin actually had a higher rush share than ATN and scored the first touchdown in the game and was running much better. E.T.N mostly made his hay after Tewton went out. And so it'll be ETN over Tutin for me, but they are at the low-end RB2 range. Neither one a true must-start. And Jamie, you're a little bit different there.
Starting point is 00:46:08 There's a bit, there's more of a spread between ETN and Tootin for you. I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of, you know, last week, Tutin popped and did a great job. Heard his ankle. How much work will they give him coming off the ankle? ETN's still been consistently the more productive guy, the more used guy, and I think in a spot like this where both will be somewhat involved, I'm going to give ETN a little bit more of the benefit out. So to me, TN's a very solid number to running back.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah, it's a big ranking discrepancy here. Jamie and Dave have ETN in the top 12, and Heath has ETN 26th and Tutin 27. I think he's up 23rd now. 23rd? Okay. And the thing is, it's a really. good matchup. The Cardinals are struggling against the run. A running back has scored
Starting point is 00:46:55 at least 12.4, which isn't great, but it's not a bad floor. 12.4 or more PPR fantasy points against Arizona in all but one game, and they're giving up four and a half yards per carrier. I do find this interesting and, you know, our projections are I think very good, especially
Starting point is 00:47:11 comparatively to the industry. If Thomas can find this, our sports line projections have Bachel Tutin in tandem with Travis E. TN. projected for more points than Emmanuel Wilson without Josh Jacobs being projected for anything. So basically more points for the Jaguars running backs than the Packers?
Starting point is 00:47:31 More points for the backup Jaguars running back than the starting running back for the Packers right now. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said in tandem. I thought you meant combined. You're saying, oh, that is so interesting. Jacksonville running back. I'll make it more simple.
Starting point is 00:47:44 We have Tutin projected for more points than Emmanuel Wilson, and that's not including Jacobs getting any numbers. Wow. There's no way you guys would start tootin over. I would not, but sports line is very excited about basal tootin and this role. And still excited about ETN, but not excited about Emmanuel Wilson, which makes some sense. I mean, look, the Packers offense right now is not exactly great. And they're facing a pretty solid run defense.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Minnesota. Okay. Jacksonville wide receivers, Jamie, break this down. I think you got to give Jacoby Myers the benefit of the doubt as number three receiver based on what we saw last week, six targets, five, patches, but we are still talking about a receiver that was single digits in PPR for every week since week two prior to last week. So, you know, put whatever, you know, intangible you want in there just because of, you know, frustration with the Raiders, injuries, a new team, still getting comfortable, all those things. Parker, Washington, I think, took a little
Starting point is 00:48:39 step back week as Myers took a step forward. Breton Strange could play this week. I think we'll find out hopefully by Friday for sure, but maybe today. Sounds like. Sounds like. Brian Thomas Jr. may still be out one more week, but that's something to keep an eye on at this point. We just haven't seen a lot of pass attempts for Trevor Lawrence last to games. And so if they're chasing points, which they could be, then we see a little bit more volume. It benefits both guys.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But I'm going to treat Jacoby Myers and Parker Washington in that order as number three receivers, just hoping that Myers can still be in that sort of 11 point range. Just one thing to point out, right? Six targets for Myers last week. They only threw 22 passes. He ran 84% of the routes, 83% of the routes. So, I don't know, maybe he's somewhat reliable, wide receiver two, three.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And, yeah, I mean, Jamie just broke it down. I don't have to repeat it. And obviously, we'll keep you updated tomorrow on Brian Thomas Jr. This is why you've got to listen to the mailbag episode. This is why you have to join us on Sunday because things do change quite a bit between now and then as we get more injury information. Heath, you said Brenton Strange would be a low-end starter. Arizona is so bad against tight ends. So would you start?
Starting point is 00:49:47 If you knew, if I told you today, Brenton Strange's play, would you start Dalton Schultz against the bills or Brenton Strange? You'd be really real close. I'd probably just stick with Schultz for one more week
Starting point is 00:49:58 and Strange's first game back. All right. Would you start Harold Fanon Jr. or Brenton Strange? Probably be Fanon. Dallas Goddard or Strange? Goddard.
Starting point is 00:50:13 All right. You see where Strange, what mix he's in. Jamie, who are some players Yeah, it is, right? Who are some players you would start Jacobi Brissette over?
Starting point is 00:50:24 I would start him over Daniel Jones. I'd start him over Caleb Williams. I'd start him over Sam Donald. I'd start him over Joe Flacko.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'd start him over. I don't know how much more you would keep going. You think he's going to get to his 24-ish points? It's hard to bet against it. I mean, you know, clearly the Chargers
Starting point is 00:50:44 vomited all over themselves or I just jinks them, but it was a bad day for Justin Herbert, and every other quarterback prior to that had just dominated this defense. So with the way Berset is playing, there's a very, very murky situation with this backfield right now because you got both DiMercado and Bamnight dealing with ankle injuries, and DeMercado's already been ruled out. And Trey Benson now activated off IR of the practice window at least,
Starting point is 00:51:07 so maybe he returns, and that just makes them into a better rushing team, or they just continue to, you know, struggle and have to, throw the ball. I just think the body of work right now for Jacoby Brissette warrants him being trusted as a starter. So I'll just tell you for myself, like I have two Caleb Williams teams and I picked up Jacoby Brissette and I'm starting Brissette over him, over him just based on, over Williams, excuse me, just based on the upside. Yeah. Well, that really pisses me off because I also have Caleb Williams and I was dying to pick up Jacoby Brissette, but I don't know if I can't do this right now. Remind me if we have time at the end of the show, which we won't, to go on this
Starting point is 00:51:43 little fantasy aside just do it now all right do you find that your quarterback waiver wire is better your quarterback waiver wire depth is better in your expert or analyst or podcast leagues than it is in your casual friends leagues i've even found this year though that the quarterback waiver wire has just been worse almost everywhere than it usually is but yes yeah man in my home leagues i can't get a quarterback for the life of me on the waiver wire. And the DBS leagues, the expert leagues, whatever, they're everywhere. It's why you're the draft league the most is our IDP league. There's just like so many good ones available.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, I know. It's crazy. All right. So Arizona is, this is a tough game, I think. This is one of the tougher games to preview. And it's because of the uncertainty. The fact, not only is there uncertainty in the Arizona backfield, but they also have a terrible matchup against a really good run defense.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And then you've got Michael Wilson, who I'm really hoping is not. An ex-Parker Washington or something like that, but we don't think he is. We're just keeping it simple. He's a start, start him. But Heath, what are your thoughts right now on the Cardinals backfield, which again, tune in Friday, Saturday, Sunday as we keep you updated on this backfield? Yeah, we are not expecting Di Mercado to play right now. We are currently ranking Knight.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Knight would be a flex, top 30 running back, but not a top 24 running back. Michael Carter, a low-end flex. it probably plays more of that Demercado role. If Trey Benson gets a full practice in today and we start feeling good about him, then he'll be ranked higher than Zonovan Knight currently is, but probably still not a top 24 guy, just a very high influx.
Starting point is 00:53:22 So Tuton or Knight? Tudan. Jamie? Night for me. Genty and Judkins or Bam Knight? Genty and Judkins. Yep. This is assuming Demarcato is out.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Assuming Benson is also out. Would you start? demarcato or Jacoby Myers I'm sorry, Bam Knight or Jacobi Myers? I would start Myers and PPR. Let me check. I think I've got Knight
Starting point is 00:53:50 just a little bit higher. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. Like, Knight's just, he had four catches last week. Obviously, they threw 57 times. He hasn't been running that well lately. Jimmy, give me 30 seconds on your expectations for Bam Knight.
Starting point is 00:54:05 As I said before, or a lot this week, every game since James Connor has been hurt. So factoring in week five on, at least one running back for the Cardinals has been 9.4 PPR points or more. It's been a lot of shared touches. Michael Carter, Knight, DiMercado, DeMercado, and Knight, Knight, and Carter, you know, just different guys finding a way to be somewhat productive. So it would kind of be fascinating if it's Knight and Carter, just based on how they've kind of viewed Carter recently. I think if Benson starts and they're comfortable enough to use him in somewhat of a featured role,
Starting point is 00:54:40 that would be exciting to me. And I would consider him at least a flex. I think you've got to treat them all as just kind of flex plays because there's still going to be some sort of sharing going on. Jacksonville's run defense has been amazing for the majority of the season. And so it's not going to be easy regardless of it. But I would like to see personally, especially if you don't have to use Trey Benson, let him play, get this to shake the rust off game. and then maybe we have a potential league winner from week 13 on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And the Cardinals DST is not in the top 12, but you could use them. They've been, not to, I'm sorry, the Jaguars, the Jaguars DST. You could use them. They have been solid this year, up and down, like both DSTs, but they also have Tennessee next week. So it's a reason to go ahead and add. The rest of season schedule, there's is one of the more favorable ones. And Tampa Bay is one of the more favorable ones.
Starting point is 00:55:30 So like if you're looking to stash dsts, these are two. the good ones. I think the Jaguars you can use this week. And I think, I don't think, I know, as good as Jacobi Berset has been, he's taken some sacks and he's definitely had turnovers, four turnovers in the last two games. All right, real quick, I'm going to do some questions here. Wilson, Michael Wilson or Jacoby Myers? Wilson. Wilson. Lawrence, Flacco, Caleb, Darnold. One or two? I don't know. It says Superflex, but. I would go Flacco, Darnold, Williams, Lawrence. Flacco Caleb Darnold Lawrence No, Flacco Caleb Lawrence Darnold
Starting point is 00:56:05 Michael Wilson or Quinn Sean Judkins Wilson Wilson Jacoby Brissette or Baker Mayfield Brissette Brissette Bam Knight or Darius Slaten if he plays Bam Oh that's a good one half PPR
Starting point is 00:56:21 I probably go bam And Brissette or Purdy I go back and forth on these two So much Right now I have Brissette One spot higher But, sorry. Pretty for me.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Brissette or golf? Golf. All right, New England's at Cincinnati. We've talked a lot about the running backs here. Let's go through New England really quickly here. Drake May is a top two quarterback, start him. Stefan Diggs is an easy start, right? So he revealed yesterday that he's been playing with a broken finger,
Starting point is 00:56:48 and obviously has not impacted his production. He's got a touchdown or a hundred yards receiving in four straight games. Like, given the matchup, I think it's just an easy start. Any other Patriots-wide receivers, Heath, that you'd be interested in? Um, I think if I had two, Kishon Booty would be my second favorite, but he's, he's more of a touchdown dependent flex. You hope he catches one long pass. Would you start Booty or Josh Downs? Booty for me. Same.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Okay. Booty or Alec Pierce. Pierce. Okay. Yeah, the Bengals are actually pretty good at eliminating the deep ball, but the Patriots are so good at completing the deep ball. it's an interesting battle here. Has Mike Grable said this week on to Cincinnati? Because I really hope he has. I don't know. Does he say that? Does he do that?
Starting point is 00:57:41 That's like the famous Belichick quote. I know that. Mike Brable doesn't seem like to me like the kind of guy that's trying to be cute. Yeah. Actually, his press conferences are great. He gives, I forget, I pronounced her last name from the Boston. But Karen starts with the G.
Starting point is 00:57:57 He gives her the first question every week. He'd been, I think, in jury duty this week, so he started every press conference with somebody else that's kind of a gag. If you go back to the one question for each game, if you want to hear about Trevionn Henderson or Ramandre Stevenson, Jamie isn't too affected by Remandre playing, if he does play, in terms of his rankings of Trayvion Henderson.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Heath is. So just go back and listen to that. Hunter Henry against this incredible matchup. Bengals give up the most fantasy points to tight ends. Hunter Henry or Brenton Strange if he plays? Henry. Yeah, I'll probably go Henry. Hunter Henry or Brock Wright against Giants?
Starting point is 00:58:38 Henry's a top 12 tight end. Brock Wright might not be my top 24. Brock Wright isn't my top 24, but it would be Henry. Brock Wright sneakily had seven targets last week, I think. Seven or eight? He did. He just didn't do anything with him. Hunter Henry or Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Pitts. Okay. Moving on to the Bengals. How much confidence do you have in Joe Flats? if he starts without Jamar Chase Heath? I've got him at QB 13 right now. I'd still start him over Baker and Daniel Jones, but a borderline starter.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Jamie, you pretty much agree. You guys have him 12th and 13th. Yeah, I mean, I'd start Baker over him, but same range. You guys are pretty different on Chase Brown, and we got into this a little bit later, but a little bit earlier in one question for each game, but let's do it again here.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Jamie, I see, let me just double-check the rankings. Chase Brown 16th? 14th, 14th, and Heath 7th, and Dave has him 10th. So look, he's a start, but I'll actually let Heath make the case here since you have him seventh. Yeah, I mean, he's got 22 targets
Starting point is 00:59:42 over his last two games, and Jamar Chase isn't playing. It's a bad matchup in terms of rushing efficiency, but he is back to playing 80 plus percent of the snaps, just the clear dominant wide RB1 in this offense.
Starting point is 00:59:58 and he's being targeted at a very high rate because Joe Flacko doesn't want to take sex. And so I think you see he may lead all running backs and catches this week. And to that point, like the Patriots, I think prior to maybe the last two games, like they'd just been miserable against past catching running back. So it should be a very good game for them. There's just other guys I like better. I mean, you're starting to taste bro.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Okay. T. Higgins, do you feel the same way? It's just like automatic. Must start. Yeah, he's going to get Christian Gonzalez. but I still think there's just too much opportunities, too many targets coming his way for you to avoid T. Higgins this week by any stretch.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So if Diggs and Higgins are easy calls, who's your favorite, who's your next best wide receiver in this game? If Higgins and Diggs are easy calls? Yeah, like who's wide receiver three in this game? I would take a chance on Yoshavas just with the expected target pump. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:53 You were unfazed by what I told you yesterday. yesterday. There's not a lot of him playing without chase. There's only one game, and he did have eight targets, but that was two years ago. You're trying, and you're not doing the wrong thing, but you're trying to put him into a box without Joe Flacco and without Chase. There's just so many moving parts for the Bengals that have changed in this scenario. So he already has one game with Flacco in the five starts that he's looked good when he's had a target pump, and I think that'll be the case this week. Okay, fair enough. Yoshivas or Bejel Tootin,
Starting point is 01:01:27 PPR. I'll take yes of us. Oh, okay. How about Noah Fant? How does he compare to Hunter Henry Heath? No, I can't. That's what Jamie said a couple years ago. It's Henry.
Starting point is 01:01:42 This one is fascinating because if Keseki plays or not. So if Keseki's out, then I think Fant is not far from Henry. If Keseki plays, does he automatically step into that role that he's sort of dominated when one of the guys, one of guys have been missing. So the weird thing is... And it's been Higgins that's been missing. Noah fan, if you look at his route participation rate, it's not high at all, one game over 50%.
Starting point is 01:02:08 But with or without Mike Asicki, it hasn't really changed. And neither have his targets for the most part. He's usually four targets. No, they're kind of a Steelers team in terms of their tight ends. Like, there's been a week where there's been more targets for other guys. They have like four tight ends that they play. and none of them run a full complement of the routes.
Starting point is 01:02:31 You guys trying to get away from the Patriots DST this week? Yes and no. I have a couple of leagues where their schedule is just so good to close the season. You can't really afford to drop. I like it's for me. I can't afford to drop them. But look, we saw the worst of Joe Flacko last week. And it wouldn't be surprising if that shows up again.
Starting point is 01:02:49 There's no Jamar Chase. He's playing with his shoulder injury. You know, this is still a really good defense. They're going to frustrate him. He takes hits. So would you start the Jaguars against the Cardinals or the Patriots at the Bengals? Still the Patriots, but that's close. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:04 How about the Bears Steelers game? Patriots DST or one of those DSTs? I think I had the Steelers higher, but I may need to reevaluate that, but they're all in the similar range. Steelers are the best. Patriots have had two terrible games in a row. Their DST against Atlanta and at Tampa Bay. They were really good before that, though. All right, Cleveland's at Las Vegas.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Sorry, you know what? I think there's some chat questions real quick here. Let's see. Sit one in half PPR. James Cook, Giovante Williams, Trayvion Henderson, or Teterole McMillan. I was in Henderson. Jamie was said Javante. Heath was said Henderson.
Starting point is 01:03:45 But if Ramonre's out, no, you would not sit Henderson. Right. Henry or Joanne Johnson? Johnson. Pick two of these three. Brees Hall, Trevion, Henderson. Devonte Adams. I'm sitting hall.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Depends on if Henderson plays. If Stevenson plays, if Stevenson plays, I'm sitting Henderson. If he doesn't, I'm sitting whole. Drake May or Lamar Jackson? May. Lamar for me, but that's number one and number two. Oh, okay. I should probably move Lamar down with this other injury.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Okay. Cleveland's at Las Vegas. And I think the next three... thing now, right? The next three games, what's that? Isn't this when you start singing? Play music. It's the lame of the week, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Unless this is this game in some foreign country. I need to get the translator out. All right, Cleveland at Las Vegas. The next three games are honestly pretty easy here. Who are you excited to start Heath in Cleveland at Las Vegas? Excited to start? Yeah. I mean, I'm excited to start Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'm I'm pretty confidently starting both of the running backs, Gentie and Judkins. That's it. Jamie? Excited, Bowers, and that's it. And Brown's D.S.D. Let's get some Genty Judkins questions from the chat.
Starting point is 01:05:12 If you've got them, I'd love to hear what you're considering there. Michael Wilson over these guys. Yep. And just to go into it, right? Judkins, he has scored. in his last five games, 13.8, 3.6, this would be his last six games.
Starting point is 01:05:30 13.8, 3.6, 26.4, 4.7, 10.5, 5.9 fantasy points. He's getting no push, no help from the offensive line. Genty, I think, what did you say earlier, Jamie, single-digit PPR? Four games this season, he's been single-ditchin's PPR, two of his last four. Two of his last four have been great, though. And one of them was against Jacksonville,
Starting point is 01:05:50 and they were a great run defense. And he scored 20 points. scored 15.3 points against the Broncos. I can't imagine they're going to be as pass-heavy as they were last week. That did not work out for them. So, Heath, you have a lot more faith in Gentie. You have them 12th. Yeah, and again, it's just the targets over the last few games.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And the fact that the game script doesn't look like a blowout, so I don't expect them to go as pass-heavy as they did last week. I think the Raiders have not been a super pass-heavy team this year, except for when they are facing an offense, they can't stop. And they can probably stop the Browns. You know, someone said I'm surprised that we haven't gotten more Kenneth Gainwell questions. And I think if Jalen Warren doesn't start, and we're going back to that game, Kenneth Gainwell is definitely a start.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I mean, you should start it. That's why I didn't go into it. I apologize for that. But comparing that situation, Steelers running backs to the Browns and Raiders running backs. Jamie, how do you feel about that? I like the Steelers running back so much better. So if Warren plays are going to start him over both these guys? Easily.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Heath? If Warren plays on a, like, he doesn't practice all week and then gets a limited session. And on Friday, I'll probably have him between Gentie and Judkins. But yes, Gainwell's easily over both guys. Okay. If Warren's out. Let me read some questions then. Judkins or Swift, PPR?
Starting point is 01:07:18 Swift. Swift. Gentie or Montgomery, half-P-R? Montgomery. Gently. Wow, Jamie, you really don't want to start Genty. Judkins or Jalen Warren or Devante Smith? Warren and Smith over Judkins.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah. Judkins or Jowon Jennings? Judkins. Judkins. Woody Marks or Ashton Genty? Marks. I've got Genty. I look forward to answering more of your
Starting point is 01:07:50 Gentie and Judkins questions on Saturday. Trey Tucker or these running backs? The running backs. Yeah. Okay. Trey Tucker or... Let's just go back to Josh Downs. Tucker.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Downs. Tucker or Xavier Worthy? Tucker. Tucker. Start Bowers. Both DSTs could be good. We like the Brown's DST better, but both of them could be worth it. using this week.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Seattle at Tennessee. Any Titan that you want to start in this game? Nope. No. Who's the best sleeper Titan? D.K., now that he's healthy. I'd probably say Pollard. Not O'Conquo?
Starting point is 01:08:39 I just think now that you have at least one of the receivers with the splits that we're seeing at the tight end spot for them, still could be O'Concoe, but... I'm sorry. Why isn't Darnold higher? He's, I think, 14th and 18th for you guys. He's 13th. 13th. And that's not too low.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Why would Darnold be higher? Because Tennessee stinks. This is the type of game where he's actually done well. In some senses, yeah, but you do have to maybe worry that they won't throw. I'm sure that's a concern of yours, Heath. He's been awful lately. He's QB19 on the season at 18 fantasy points per game. and they
Starting point is 01:09:19 I not really have zero confidence they'll throw 20 passes. 20. Okay, fair enough. Jamie, you're a little more optimistic, just like the match. I mean, his three bad games, Houston, Arizona, and the Rams,
Starting point is 01:09:36 they're very good against opposing quarterbacks. When he's played these layups, like the Titans, he's been good. Good against Jacksonville, great against Jacksonville, Washington, great against Tampa Bay, solid against New Orleans. Yeah, Tennessee, they are 21st against quarterbacks, but it's looking like a pretty,
Starting point is 01:09:56 they've had an easy schedule on their 21st. All right, Charbonnet and Walker. So Jamie talked about Walker earlier in one question for each game. He is about 20th in the rankings. Zach Charbonnet, how would you compare him to Kyle Menangai? We'd rather have. Charbonnet this week. Sharbon, I use a couple of spots higher.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And just don't forget, Tennessee's had a pretty bad run defense all year. But last week, it was terrific. Now, they played the Texans. Texans can't run the ball. But they got healthy, as I mentioned. So I'm not saying this is a tough matchup, but if they do it again against the Seahawks, it might be a tough matchup going forward. We'll have to reevaluate.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Start JSN, not starting anyone else, right? Shaheed, or we don't really want to start Barner. Honestly, I feel like we can be done with this game. The one thing with Jehid is that, you know, Donald missed him on a long throw last week. I wonder if this is the guy that tried to get going a little bit. Not that you're getting away from J.S.N. Because he's awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:54 But like that changes their offense if they can get him more involved. And Torrey Horton missed practice again. Okay. Did I.O. Manor crack your top, I'm sorry. Did D.K. crack your top 40? No. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:13 We don't like power against, well, really, anyone. This brutal run defense. Tajay Spears gets you about seven to nine fantasy points in PPR every week. And that's it for this game. Unless, I mean, this is a bad team against tight ends, though. So if you were desperate, Seattle allows the third most fantasy points of tight ends. I assume you like Oconquo better than Helm. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:36 All right. They're indistinguishable to me. And Seattle's DST is top three. Start them. Jets are at the Ravens. And one of the questions that we've been trying to answer, is the Ravens run defense good? Is this a tough matchup?
Starting point is 01:11:53 So since Roquan Smith returned in week eight, they have allowed 15.1 fantasy points to DeAndre Swift, 16.6 to A. Chan, 15.9 to Aaron Jones. Then 5.9 to Judkins. But none of those running backs ran for 59 or more than 59 yards. I think two of them scored. A. Chan had six catches. so what do you think
Starting point is 01:12:16 I think it's a slightly below average matchup for running backs it's definitely in the group of matchups that don't matter it's not it's not one where you're giving them a boost like we were earlier in the season it's not one where you're crushing projections
Starting point is 01:12:32 like we do with the Seahawks it's just don't worry about it either way okay so what does that mean for Breece Hall Jamie he's a number two running back Again, he's not a confident start. I don't know how you can be confident in starting him at this point.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Like the offensive environment is so bad. They have no receiving court right now. And so, you know, when you're talking about Adonai Mitchell and John Mechie and Tyler Johnson and Alan Lazzar, like, that's the guys we're looking at here. And Mason Taylor, who's just not ready yet to, you know, lead a receiving core at his position. Maybe Terad Taylor changes things for this offense. I don't know. I've never really felt like Justin Fields was the the downfall of this team.
Starting point is 01:13:17 He clearly was not playing great, but, you know, again, everything around him is just so porous. So if this game gets lopsided, we just have not seen the involvement in the passing game that we were hoping for for Breeze Hall. So I don't know, like, if that saves him. If you were going to take a flyer on a wide receiver
Starting point is 01:13:37 from Tennessee or the Jets, is there any other? I'd rather go fly a kite. Greg Dorch. Dorch. Okay. I mean, the one to go get would be Isaiah Hodgens. If you're talking about taking a flyer of something, it's just available everywhere.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I think it picked them up in two leagues. Listen, that's great. Listen, flying a kite, I don't think I really ever did that. I did that like five years ago. It's kind of fun. It's a lot more fun than I thought. I've done it a few times and hated it. Oh, man, you did a windier day.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Start Lamar Jackson. but what's the lowest you could see yourself ranking Lamar Jackson this week, Keith? You know, I don't have him as a top three-quarterback right now. He's fifth. I could see ranking him as low as eighth. It's just because of the injuries, right? Well, it's because the injuries and how they've impacted him since he came back. I don't think he's a top 12 quarterback over the last three weeks.
Starting point is 01:14:39 and his most recent game, he had four rush attempts for 10 yards. He has 60 rushing yards in his last three games combined. And I don't know why if you have a quarterback that has multiple leg injuries and you're playing a team like the Jets, you would have any design runs for Lamar Jackson. I started the week just thinking like this is the bounce back spot for him,
Starting point is 01:15:02 home game, heavy favorites, Jets think, and then the fact that he missed practice, like I have to adjust my rankings for him. I mean, he could very well, well have a game like he had against the dolphins he threw what 23 pass attempts and only ran for 14 yards and still had four touchdowns like he could have one of those games but you don't really want to have to count on that yeah all right the ravens should handle this game and derrick henry is a must start guy he's top nine and even full ppr for everybody i think he's fifth for
Starting point is 01:15:34 jamie zay flowers is a number two receiver i think you guys have him right around 24 23rd, 24th, and just got to hope he finally scores. He makes pretty much all of their big plays in the passing game. Start or sit Mark Andrews, Heath. I don't want to start him. I understand why people do because tight end is kind of a touchdown dependent position. He has five, four touchdowns in his last three games, but he's like three to five targets the last four weeks.
Starting point is 01:16:09 14 to 34 receiving yards. Like, it is the most touchdown-dependent player that we might consider starting. Yeah. One game this year with more than 30. He's not top 12 for me, but I understand if somebody's been starting him and they keep getting touchdowns, they just keep starting him and hope they keep getting touchdowns. The same thing happened last year. He's the same version of himself.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Yeah. Hunter Henry or Mark Andrews? Henry. Andrews. We'll see if Isaiah likely doesn't play, maybe that would be a, a boost for Andrews. Noah Fant or Mark Andrews? Andrews. Andrews.
Starting point is 01:16:46 All right. Baltimore's DST is top two. And that is it for fantasy football today. Tomorrow we have six NFC home games to talk about. We'll sing the game of the week's song. We'll have fun. I'm actually very excited for tonight's game. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I want to see how this bill's offense does against this Texan defense. No, I really am. I'm pumped. It's going to be an interesting game. upset alert No The last time The Bills beat the Texans
Starting point is 01:17:13 David Carr was starting For the Texans Own the Bills All right Heath You are the stat of the game You are the stat man That was a regular season
Starting point is 01:17:24 Stap but I think didn't the Texans Like Josh Allen's worst Playoff game came against the Texans I don't remember Where he tried to throw that lateral In like the fourth quarter And the Texans beat him Zero recollection of this.
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