Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Tua, Dobbins, Jeudy and More! (12/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 15, 2022

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Quick thoughts on tonight's game and then Jamey and Heath tell you the players they love (3:23) and the players to avoid (6:00) for Week 15. Start Isiah Pacheco and Terry McLaurin! Should you avoid Tua Tagovailoa? We also talk about Jeff Driskel's tight end eligibility on Yahoo and where he would rank at the position (9:15) ... News and notes (12:50) with key injury updates at each position, then it's One Question for Each Game (21:05).. Start Jaylen Waddle? Travis Etienne? Zonovan Knight? Any faith in Chris Moore? How about J.K. Dobbins vs. Nick Chubb? ... Start or Sit for Dolphins-Bills (28:15), Cowboys-Jaguars (40:48), Lions-Jets (47:50), Chiefs-Texans (58:30), Cardinals-Broncos (1:04:50), Patriots -Raiders (1:09:00), Ravens-Browns (1:15:30) and Titans-Chargers (1:21:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. The fantasy playoffs begin in just hours with the 49ers and the Seahawks. Welcome to Starter Sit for the 8th. AFC home games here on Fantasy Football Today on your Thursday edition. Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg. Do you guys have a lot of players going tonight across your many leagues? Big game for you tonight? I'm trying to think.

I have McCaffrey, yes. Nice. I don't have him. I have McCaffrey in two leagues. One's a bye. So one league tonight. And I think only Seattle player that I have, I have Walker on a league with a buy and I have thankfully and,

um, uh, Metcalf also in league with a buy. I have a lot of McCaffrey and a lot of lock it. But as I said last week, it's pretty much, um, Ricky Bobby around here first or worst.

So not a lot of teams playing this week. A lot of buys. Yeah, you know, hopefully if you don't have Christian McCaffrey, hopefully the McCaffrey manager in your league is on a buy because he might just destroy the Seahawks tonight. Anyway. I got a note speaking of your leagues, Heath, first or worst. Did you happen to win, I didn't confirm this,

one of your undefeated weeks in the IDP League by a scoring change? Yep. Yes, David Gano, Fantasy Football Hall of Famer, or Fantasy Hall of Famer, does some work for the Athletic. He sent me a note after I sent the playoff matchups. By the way, have you sent the playoff matchups in the Dynasty League yet? Nope. Yeah, good job.

He sent a note that he thought that since you work at CBS and the site is CBS, that you fixed it so that you won the matchup. Yeah. Even if he had had a tie, it would have been an unbeaten season, which is still pretty good. Still pretty good.

It's okay. Most people would take it. It's fine. Anyway, we've got a lot of games to talk about today, a lot of players to talk about. Real quick, San Francisco minus three. What's your pick tonight with the spread? I think the 49ers cover.

It's tough. You know, primetime homeowner dogs are always tough to go against. So we'll see. And Seattle's got their back against the wall. But the only thing that makes me concerned about San Francisco is it's Purdy's first road start. So, you know, that place will be loud. It'll be tough.

He's not 100%. No Debo. So there are some things working against them. But man, that Seattle defense is just really struggling right now. Yeah, I'm going to go Seattle on the money line. Oh, okay. All the things Jamie said. One team must win this game.

One team can win the division without winning this game. I'm going to take the Seahawks to win. I think the Niners clinched the division with a win, right? They do. They clinched the division with any win over the next four weeks. Well, they can put the nail in the coffin tonight. All right, let's talk about players we love. Jamie, who is the start of the week for Week 15?

Isaiah Pacheco. Obviously playing the matchup here against the Texans. They are the worst team in terms of most fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs. They have given up the most touchdowns to running backs, 18 total. I like obviously what Pacheco has been doing. You know, he's clearly the running downs guy for the Chiefs. And the fact that he's got five catches over the last two weeks is fun too. So 90 total yards or a touchdown in three straight games. running downs guy for the chiefs. And the fact that he's got five catches over the last two weeks is fun too. So now he told you,

are there a touchdown in, in three straight games? Um, no, I think he, uh, sorry for four straight games. Um,

I think he, uh, he keeps it going, you know, has a chance to be, I think a top 10 running back this week. If he can have one of those hundred yard touchdown type of games with still, you know, two or three catches.

So love the setup for him. Yeah. Six catches in his last three games, which is nice for Pacheco. Three last week. And not exactly running more routes, but he's getting more targets. I hope that can stick.

Do you like Pacheco or Dobbins in another good matchup? I like Pacheco better, but I like both. They're very close. I think Pacheco gets a nod in PPR because of what you just said, the fact that he's getting more involved in the passing game. But it would not surprise me if they have a similar stat line, very similar, I think, to what Dobbins gave you last week.

Could see 120 total yards for Pacheco maybe, but 120 yards in a touchdown. So a very good setup for him. I just think the concern for me is I think Dobbins will still share a little bit more, even though McKinnon's going to have his role. But Gus Edwards could also have 10 to 15 carries in this game too. Heath, who do you love this week?

Terry McLaurin, giant slayer. He has averaged seven catches for 97 yards in six career games against this defense. Washington coming off a bye, the Giants coming off a spanking. I think this game will be lopsided. McLaurin makes

at least one big play deep, maybe two. I read that this is the second time in the last 30 years that a team gets to play an opponent twice in a row. It's such BS. But that's what the Commanders get. They get the Giants for the second straight game with a bye week in between.

Just, ah, I could do an hour on that. Whose three-game stretch is more brutal? The Giants having to go Commanders, Eagles, Commanders, or the Dolphins having to go three straight road games, San Francisco, Chargers, Buffalo? Oh, definitely the Dolphins. The Dolphins by a mile.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Commanders aren't that good. Yeah, definitely the Dolphins. Is it? I think so, yeah. I mean, the Commanders are playing. That's tough to go division opponent three straight weeks, and two

of those games being the same team. That is a disadvantage for sure. Players to avoid. Jamie, who's to sit this week? I would like to sit, speaking of the Dolphins, Tua. The weather is not going to be conducive, I think, for him. If the snow is expected in Buffalo, I think it could be up to seven inches last time I saw.

He's not playing well, clearly, at the moment. And the Bills' defense is, I'm sure, A, they're playing well. B, I'm sure the whole entire Bills team is a little salty after losing to Miami in Week 3. And so I think Tua's going to have a little bit of a rough day. Would you start Mike White over him? I would start Mike White over him, yes. Would you start Jared Goff over him? I would not.

Jared Goff, in his road games this season, do you know what he's averaging in six-point for passing touchdown lead? Yeah, I have a lot to say about that. But I know he's had two games with less than five points. I think he's had three games maybe with less than seven points. So I don't know what he's averaging, but I know he's had two games with less than five points. I think he's had three games maybe with less than seven points. So I don't know what he's averaging, but I know it's bad. He is averaging in five road games this season, 8.6 fantasy points per game.

Yeah. That's terrible. That's bad, but there's a lot behind that, though. And the Jets are really good. They are really good, and the weather's going to be bad there. I mean, it's not going to be like Buffalo bad, but it's going to be cold. It's going to be uncomfortable. I'm not going to want to go to that jets lions game so you're sitting tua but you're also sitting golf uh heath who are you

sitting i would like to stay away from mike evans um just not been the same guy for the last month plus no more than five catches in a game no more that hasn't reached 60 yards since week eight obviously we know the touchdown woes. Hasn't got into the end zone since week four. And Tom Brady's not the same guy. Evans doesn't look like the same guy. I'd be pretty worried about Evans in this spot. He's a low-end, touchdown-dependent, number three wide receiver.

I'm totally with you, but do you think we feel differently about Evans if that Donovan Smith holding call is not called and he gets the long touchdown? He'd probably be in the Gabe Davis range for me if that had happened, yeah. I'd have him up at the high end, number three wide receiver, but still boom bust. Yeah, well, how about two weeks ago also, Evans,

he drew something about like a 40-yard penalty right near the goal line on pass interference. It looked like he had the guy beat. So that's the problem with players who are so reliant on the deep ball. He's not getting the end zone targets anymore. You know, you could make a case for him, but they just have to connect,

and they haven't been connected. Also a good secondary. You know, even without Uzi, they're still playing really well. Fifth in the league in terms of his fantasy points allowed. So Pacheco is a start. McLaurin is a start.

Those are the players we love. Tua is a sit for Jamie. Heath, did you agree on that? Start a sit Tua if you can? I would not sit him for Mike White, so I don't think I can call him a sit. He's a low-end number one quarterback. I think I've got him ninth or tenth.

Definitely lower than where he's been over the last month. I'm surprised you don't think White has a higher ceiling. I have a hard time when Tua's got Waddle and Tyreek saying, anybody has a higher ceiling? I think the weather might be a little bit overblown. Yeah. And what was I going to say on that regard? I don't remember.

Oh, I think it's his first time playing in snow. We talked about yesterday that he's been in cold before, but snow, I don't know. I don't know, whatever. I don't think he's going to be like... And I don't know, like, if... I've seen differing reports. The last thing I saw was one to three inches. If it was like it's going to be snowing blizzard-like conditions during the game,

that's a different thing than if for that entire day, the forecast calls for one to three inches of snow. It might not even snow during the game. All right. We have to talk about something that I don't really want to talk about, but it has to be brought up. Jeff Driscoll, the tight end. the man who has one target in his career. I know how to bring it up. This is awesome.

I hate it. He is tight. Chaos is fun. He has tight end eligibility on Yahoo. Thankfully, not on CBS. You did? Of course. Who are you going to start him over? So I'm in a tough spot with my running backs. So I didn't really have a lot of depth on this team,

and I just lost Damian Pierce, so I picked up Rex Burkett. So I could be at a little bit of a disadvantage, depending on what happens on Saturday. And so my choice right now is between Marquise Brown, who I don't really like this week, and Driscoll. And so if I'm chasing points come Sunday, I'm going to put in Driscoll as a flex. Okay.

So he played half the snaps, and Davis Mills played half the snaps. He played almost, he played every red zone snap, I believe, for the Texans. They split the, so they split the quarterback duties, but Driscoll was mostly a rusher. He threw six passes. He had 36 rushing yards. He did throw a touchdown.

I am concerned because they were winning for almost the entire game at Dallas. It was surprising. I don't think it's going to happen again. I don't know what happens if they get blown out by the Chiefs, which is a distinct possibility here. It could be the garbage time, QB. I don't know what happens if they get blown out by the Chiefs, which is a distinct possibility here. Does, you know... He could be the garbage time QB. I don't think so. I think he's the gimmicky running the ball quarterback.

I think if they have to throw, throw, throw, wouldn't you agree that it would be more Davis Mills? I think their M.O. is to lose. I don't think that's a big surprise. So I would not be surprised if they get a little wacky

and they play Jeff Driscoll, start the game. Who knows? So where would you rank him among tight ends? Oh, low. Very low. We can't rank him as a tight end, though. Right. Full PPR, he'd be 15 at 20.

Non-PPR, he'd probably be 5 to 10. Okay. Because in non-PPR, if you score six points, you're a top 10 tight end. Yeah. Okay. So would you start Jeff Driscoll or Gerald Everett in non-PPR? Driscoll. Driscoll.

Yeah, Everett, I don't ever want to start him, but he catches four to five passes almost every week in PPR, and it's just a separate aside. And turns it into three non-PPR fantasy points. Non-PPR, yeah, no, he's useless. But in full PPR, I think he scored 7.8 or more PPR fantasy points in like five of his last six games, and that's with no touchdowns in that stretch.

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and notes. Okay, there's so much here. I'm going to try not to slow this show down. Brock Purdy was listed as limited in practice. I guess we don't know for sure that he's going to play, but we're expecting him to play. He's playing. Okay, alright. Jamie says he's playing, so he's playing. Tyler

Huntley practiced in full. That's good news. He's playing. I don't know about that. They gotta get him out of the concussion protocol. They got a Saturday game, but I don't know. If Huntley plays, where would you... If you knew Huntley and Purdy were playing, who would you start? Let me ask a question. How many times has a player

in the concussion protocol practiced in full and then not played? I believe Joe Mixon. That was the first name I thought of. I think he did. That's the only one I can think of. Yeah, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Well, they had a better player on their bench than the Ravens do in terms of backups. Look, concussions are weird, okay?

You have to clear the protocol. Yeah, sure. I don't want to make light of it. I apologize. No, it wasn't that. It's just practicing in full isn't the same with concussion as it is for other injuries.

Who would you rank higher if you knew they were both playing, Purdy or Huntley? Huntley. Huntley. And as a result of this news, I'm moving Mark Andrews up. Oh, okay.

I got a quote about Mark Andrews. I'll give it to you right now. This is from Greg Roman, the offensive coordinator. I'm just going to paraphrase. He says Mark Andrews is getting double teamed more than he ever has in a lot of variety of different ways. So that's why he is struggling. You know who else gets double teamed?

Who? Travis Kelsey. Probably. You know who else gets double teamed? Cooper Cupp. You know who else gets double teamed? Devontae Adams. You know what those guys do? They get open. You know what else happens? Their coaches scheme them up to get open. Do a better job, Greg Roman. I think they threw for 104 yards last week at the Steelers.

It should be 99 of them to Mark Andrews. Mike White was limited in practice. He insists he's playing. Russell Wilson missed practice. Kenny Pickett still on the protocol. Apparently Mason Rudolph was splitting reps with Mitchell Trubisky. Houston expected to use both quarterbacks. Cleveland offensive coordinator

Alex Van Pelt expects Deshaun Watson to throw downfield more going forward. He's been pretty conservative. They have the Ravens this week. Marcus Mariota's out for the seasons. Patrick Mahomes has a hand injury, but he's fine. Running back news. Aaron Jones practice. He's going to play. Ken Walker's going to play. Where'd you end up with Ken Walker in your running back rankings?

25. In PPR, 24-0. Yeah, right behind Najee Harris. So it's like 27-28. Alright. Khalil Herbert could be back next week. Damian Pierce is out. Jeff Wilson mispracticed.

They have a Saturday game at Buffalo. He's doing everything he can to get ready. Josh Jacobs was limited. It's a good sign. DeAndre Swift not on the injury report. I don't know what the heck that means because he was taken off the injury report on Thursday last week.

Damian, oh, this is big. Damian Harris was limited in practice. I tweeted that people should pick up Damian Harris. They were very skeptical. But if he... Why? Why were they skeptical, or why did I tweet that? Yeah, why would they be skeptical?

I mean, he's the lead guy there without Stevenson. That's a top 20 running back. Because I didn't say that he was limited in practice, so people might not have known that, but also, yeah, the whole situation, right? I mean, if Harris is in and Stevenson is out, that would be pretty exciting, right? I don't know if I'd use the word exciting with Damien Harris,

but it would be encouraging. It would be somebody that I'd want to start. Okay. I'd have Damien ahead of Najee and ahead of Walker. Yeah, would you start him ahead of, like, Nick Chubb? No. No. Travis Etienne?

In non-PPR, for sure. But not in PPR. Really, in both. I mean, Etienne's not catching passes, so yes. Yeah, I think Harris would catch three passes if he played and Stevenson didn't. I don't think it would be like a zero sitch. What do you think?

I agree. I would take the under on three and the over on zero. Okay. Saquon Barkley practiced in full. At wide receiver, Brandon Cooks is likely out this week. Nico Collins mispracticed. Chris Moore. Debo Samuel likely out about three weeks.

All right. A few players are eligible to return from IR. Mikko Hardman, Hunter Harenfro, and at tight end, Darren Waller. What else we got? Robert Woods mispracticed with an illness, and Traylon Burks is still in the concussion protocol. Jacoby Myers was limited. That's a good sign.

Corey Davis mispracticed. He's in the concussion protocol. Kadarius Toney was limited. Tee Higgins was limited, guys. If you have to choose between IUK have to choose between any wide receiver tonight, the big three wide receivers, or Tee Higgins, if he gets in another limited session,

what are you doing? You can't risk it after what happened last week, so I think you've got to play the three big guys, which would be Jawan Jennings, Marquise Goodwin, and Ray Ray. Definitely Lockett and Metcalf, because I might have those guys ahead of him anyway.

Ayuk, depending on who else I had. Right. Chase Claypool, mispractice. Cortland Sutton, mispractice. DJ Moore, practice in full. A tight end, Dallas Goddard. He's another guy. Sorry, I forgot about him.

He's eligible to return from IR. He's hopeful to play this week. We'll find out more as we progress through the week. Darren Waller eligible. Are you ranking Darren Waller, guys? We are going to by the end of the day. Okay. And he will be ranked?

And Goddard and Renfro and Hardman. And Goddard and Waller, will they both be top eight? Most likely, yes. Top ten for sure. Okay. Yeah, Goddard for sure. Waller might be in that I'm going to push him up into the top 12 range because his name's Darren Waller.

He might be 12th or 11th, but I think Goddard's probably around eight. I don't know if I would start either one over Dolchich, for example, this week. Okay. And what about Njoku and Ingram? No, I would start Njoku and Ingram over them, yes. They're just better situations given the fact that they've been playing. Okay, Pat Fryermuth mispracticed

with a foot injury, but he expects to play. Hayden Hurst is doubtful. Daniel Bellinger expects to play. On the offensive line, Tampa Bay offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs is not expected to play. On the offensive line, Tampa Bay offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs is not expected to play. Raiders offensive lineman Alex Barr is mispractice. And New England offensive tackle Isaiah Wynn mispractice. On defense, the big ones that I'm following are Houston. They're two top cornerbacks. Stingley's been out. Steven Nelson left last week. They both mispractice. And they're at Kansas City,

and they allow the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. So do you think if both those guys are out, then maybe we could start Mahomes? I think so. I'll probably start him anyway, but I would feel a lot better. Vita Vea is likely out this week. Run plugger for the Bucs.

So that's good news for Mixon. Derwin James. If there was no Higgins and no Boyd, you might start both P good news for Mixon. Derwin James. If there was no Higgins and no Boyd, you might start both P. Ryan and Mixon this week. And no Hurst. Right. Derwin James is day-to-day. But you know what, Heath? That was the case last week,

basically. And P. Ryan had what, like two catches? Was the top 20 running back? He scored a touchdown. He had what, six touches, seven touches? You know what, let's hope Higgins plays. Christian Fulton, Tennessee's top cornerback. He missed practice, but defensive end Danico Autry was limited.

Arizona defensive lineman Zach Allen is out this week. Good news for the Broncos. For the Giants, Adory Jackson still out. Leonard Williams, though, defensive tackle. He was limited in practice. Patriots cornerback Jack Jones mispracticed with a knee injury. Denver defensive end Randy Gregory was designated to return from IR. Their pass rush has been pretty bad since the Bradley Chubb trade.

It would be helpful to get Gregory back. They got Arizona this week. And Ryan Neal, very important safety for the Seahawks and Al Woods starting defensive tackle. Both questionable. I don't think, I don't know. We'll see. Both questionable for tonight's game, but those are two key pieces on the Seahawks defense that would certainly make things easier for the 49ers if Ryan Neal and Al Woods are out. Okay, I don't think that was so bad. Let's go to one question for each game. Miami at Buffalo.

Are you starting only Alan Diggs and Tyreek Hill in this game? Yes. I think Raheem Mostert said we should start him if Jeff Wilson's out. What did he say? Did he say that? It's a snow game and that's for running backs. I guess he ran for 200 yards in the snow in Buffalo in the past and he is very excited about Saturday's

game. What about Waddle? I'm starting him. Yeah, you're starting Waddle, I guess. Okay. Dallas is at Jacksonville. Starter sit Travis Etienne. You're starting him. Low end starter. Why am I starting him? i don't want to start him

well i mean if you have pacheco and maybe zon of the night i mean they're both kind of in questionable spots both those guys um obviously damien harris as we alluded to before you can start him if he's if he's good to go and there's no stevenson um i know there's many other scenarios of guys that you might have picked up the last couple weeks could be forgetting somebody but you know ETN is going to get a lot of work I hope so yeah Detroit at the Jets

which big name running backs would you start Bam Knight over you'd start Bam Knight over blank only really Harrison Walker for me I'm a little nervous about him. I'd start him over ETN. I'd start him over Najee Harris. We talked about this yesterday,

but Heath's higher on Bam Knight than, certainly than Jamie, and I think Dave as well. Let me just double check on that. Jamie's got a nice... His Detroit run defense has been good. If he's not going to get the involvement in the passing game, it's going to be a rough day for him and I think Dave as well. Let me just double-check on that. Jamie's got a nice... His Detroit run defense has been good. If he's not going to get the involvement in the passing game, it's going to be a rough day for him, I think. Okay, Kansas City at Houston.

Chris Moore or Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Deontay Johnson? Would you start Chris Moore over any of those guys? Just DJ Moore. Yeah. All right, looking forward to making a passionate case for chris moore actually the the driscoll thing terrifies me with chris moore but uh arizona at denver do you trust jerry judy if brett rippin is the quarterback and remember the cardinals pretty good against number one receivers typically do you trust jerry judy if brett rippin's the quarterback i think jerry judy had one of his

best games of the season with brett rippon at quarterback 11 targets 16 fantasy points without a touchdown absolutely yes as long as that is out which that's the way it's trending um and haven't they been bad against number one receivers the last two weeks last game if they had well not against the patriots if they have it's you know byron murphy's been out for three straight games i think so. So, he practiced a little bit last week, didn't play. If he comes back, it would be a little bit different. And the thing is, for Judy, he played

85% of his snaps outside last week without Cortland Sutton. So, keep that in mind. The Patriots are at the Raiders. How do you approach the Patriots running back, Seath? If Ramondre plays, he's a must-start top 12 running back. If he doesn't and Damian Harris plays, then he is a number two running back

and Pierre Strong is a low-end flex. If both Ramondre and Damian Harris miss, then Pierre Strong is a high-end flex. Kevin Harris is right behind him as a mid-range flex. Okay, so the running backs you would be excited to start if they played would be just Stevenson or Stevenson and Harris? Excited, probably just Stevenson, but I'd be fine starting Harris as a number two. Damian? Yeah, Damian.

Baltimore or Cleveland, J.K. Dobbins or Nick Chubb? Chubb, but it's close. Heath? Yeah. Chubb? Okay. Same thing. And Tennessee is at the Chargers. Do you like the Titans passing game in this contest?

Do you ever like the Titans passing game? I think Tannehill has kind of proven who he is. Like he'll find a way when he's on to get you, you know, 21 to 23 fantasy points, which I think could be a case this week if they're chasing points. I think Jig Okonkwo, based on the position that he plays, like I would start Waller and Goddard over Okonkwo,

for example, you know, to go back to that conversation. But I think Okonkwo's in a pretty good spot based on 10 plus PPR points his last two games with Traylon Burks leaving with a concussion two games ago. If Burks plays, I think he's in the discussion as a number three receiver, but it's hard to say he's going to play the fact that he's mispracticed now again on Wednesday in the concussion protocol still. And then Robert Woods dealing with an illness might help, you know, Nick Westbrook-Akina illness might help you know nick westbrook

akina but you know how many people are trusting him in the in the fantasy playoffs this point you know he's he would be a notch below chris moore and in the same discussion as the rams guys for example you know in terms of trust uh if if he's the the lone wolf there so you know tannell's just losing guys left and right at this point yeah i'd say if burks is out it's pretty much just the tight ends and i'd have a Conqua over Austin Hooper, but they'd both be between tight end 10 and tight end 15 for me. I really want, uh,

Berks in, if he plays and I'd be, you know, he's just, he looks like he's really good. He's making big plays. The chargers give up a lot of big plays. It would be interesting for sure.

Um, I don't know. Where would he end up in your rankings? Where would you rank Burks if he plays? 36? Yeah, maybe a spot or two higher, but probably somewhere similar to Mike Evans and Gabe Davis and slightly ahead of Chris Moore.

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Promo code FFT. And we go to the games. We start with Miami and Buffalo. We know weather could be a factor here. So your stat of the game is, I think think about the running backs here. Let's talk about the Dolphins running backs. The Bills defense has been a little bit leaky in their last seven games. They've allowed 12 or more PPR fantasy points to six running backs and 15 or more PPR fantasy points to four running backs in their last seven games. So they have not been

great against the run. Heath, you talked about Mostert saying we should start him, but how do you feel about Dolphins running backs in this matchup? I don't really love them. Mostert's a high-end flex right now without Wilson. If Wilson plays, the whole situation just gets even less appealing. They'd both be kind of low-end flexes. I guess you'd have to lean towards Mostert as being the best. It's just can the Dolphins stay competitive in this game?

Because I'm sure, or I would think, they would like to be able to run the ball in bad weather against Josh Allen and keep him off the field. But they've been really awful running the ball the last two weeks and haven't really looked like they want to do that bad. No, they have the fourth fewest running back carries in the NFL, the fifth fewest red zone running back carries. They have only 14 carries from the 10-yard line or closer for running backs.

That's fourth fewest in the NFL, so it's not a great offense for running backs. If they didn't go to the Chargers and run last week, hopefully they can learn from their lesson and try to run the ball a little bit better here. But I guess it's safe to say to fade them if wilson plays and if wilson's out then you have a bigger decision to make um and that's how you have it ranked right now right with wilson out yeah we do not have wilson ranked i do like uh your new phrase though learn from your lesson that's what i said yes the the dolphins are a little bit like the guy who gets super good at Madden

because there's three plays that he has that nobody knows how to stop. And then somebody's figured out how to stop those plays, and let's see what the Dolphins do. Okay. Yeah, I agree. Great analogy. Okay. So Tua.

Tua or the Cowboys-Jaguars quarterbacks? The Cowboys-Jaguars quarterbacks? The Cowboys-Jaguars quarterbacks for me, I think it's, you know, Tua's been 17 points or less in three straight games. He's had, you know, some tough matchups, clearly. And like Keith said, you know, teams are figuring out how to defend them. It's also coincided with the offensive line woes.

I know they got Armstead back last week, but they're still dealing with the Austin Jackson injury. You know, so there's a lot of things at play here. And, you know, again, you have now elements. You have a team that has already played them once. That's a pretty good defensive team. And I think it's going to be a difficult day for him. You know, can he still get you 18 to 20 points?

I think that's safe. He's going to have one of his best days. I'd be very surprised. You know, I think it'll take some fl points? I think that's safe. Uh, he's going to have one of his best days. I'd be very surprised. You know, I think it'll take some fluky situation for that to happen. So for me, he's a number, number two,

a quarterback this week. Okay. And he does. I got Lawrence to a deck. Okay. Um, right now, the,

the ones I struggle with are Mike white deck and Gino Smith. Right now I've got to adjust ahead of Gino Smith. I think, I've got Tua just ahead of Geno Smith. I think this matchup's probably better for him than the 49ers is for Geno. Okay. Yeah, Tua only scored 13 points against the Bills, I think it was week three, but he barely threw the

ball. He had a 123.8 passer rating through 18 passes. Well, that was the back-entry game. But he still played 90% of the game. Yeah, yeah. He only missed a couple snaps. Yeah, no, he came back in with what he was probably concussed

when they said he had a back injury. Right. Well, either way, he only threw 18 passes, but he played very well against them. Well, if you also recall that game, the Bills dominated plays in time of possession.

They absolutely held the ball forever. And the Dolphins won. And the Dolphins won. If you also recall that game, the Bills dominated plays in time of possession. They absolutely held the ball forever. And the Dolphins won. And the Dolphins won. That's what I'm saying. This just feels like you beat us, you surprised us, you're the first team to beat us, and now we're going to punch you in the face. It's hard to feel great about the Dolphins after what we saw the last two weeks.

I understand that. Okay, running backs, we just discussed, start Tyreek Hill. Alright, so Jalen Waddell. If Cortland Sutton's out, would you start Jerry Judy or Jalen Waddell? I'm closer right now with Judy to Tyreek Hill than I am Judy to Waddell. Oh, wow.

Okay, so it's not looking great for Waddell. 17% or lower target share in three of his last four games. He's not getting a lot of targets, except for that Houston game. I don't really have much to say. I mean, it's not like an impenetrable matchup. Good wide receivers usually do very well against the Bills. He's a low-end number two wide receiver.

Okay, but I'm nervous about it. I don't want to lose my league because of the dolphins offense. And well, I think like Waddle for the majority of the season has been a borderline number one receiver, if not a number one receiver for me right now, he's a borderline number two receiver to number three receiver, you know? So I think he's still starting him.

You know, you gotta have a pretty good situation to, to bench him. But I would start Christian Watson over him. I would start Michael Pittman and PPR over him. Judy over him. But I would start Christian Watson over him. I would start Michael Pittman in PPR over him. Judy over him. Garrett Wilson over him. You know, several other guys,

but for the most part, they've been in the same range. All right, start Josh. Sit Mike Kosicki. Start Josh Allen. You guys have him top four. He hasn't been great lately. For people out there, hey, why should I start Josh Allen, Heath? Why should we start Josh Allen? You guys have him top four. He hasn't been great lately. People are saying, hey, why should I start Josh Allen, Heath? Why should we start

Josh Allen? Because he hasn't been great lately and he's still the number two quarterback in fantasy for the season. He has the upside to score 40 fantasy points any week. And no one's actually asking that question. I think this is a game

where he uses his legs quite a bit. People will definitely ask that question if the weather's really bad and the fact that... We don't have any reason to believe the weather's going to be really bad. Why? It could be... They're projecting 10 to 15 mile an hour winds and 1 to 3 inches of snow. That's not good.

That's not really bad. That's pretty... It's not. I wouldn't worry about that for him. I think the thing, the thing you got to worry about with Josh Allen is, is he getting two, three passing touchdowns or is he getting multiple rushing touchdowns? Because he's still, you're,

you're not benching. I mean, who you have that you're benching him for, you know, you're not benching him for fields this week. You're not benching him for Mike white. That would be stupid. You're not benching him for,

you know, maybe if you drafted hurts, I get it, but how many people have that scenario? Well, most weeks you could make a case for Geno. I don't know, it's a bad week for him. I want to clarify on the weather, because I get the argument that the Dolphins,

and particularly Tua, are not going to do well in cold weather. But Jamie, if we had Pete on here and we asked him, a snow game with no wind, is that better for the offense or the defense? He would 100% say the offense, right? Yeah, I mean, you know, and this guy has played in Buffalo his entire NFL career. He played in Wyoming. You know, this isn't a situation where I worry about him.

But, again, I see your point, Adam. He hasn't been the same fantasy quarterback since the elbow injury. There's been some down performances. You know, you've noted a few times that his accuracy has been better, but they just haven't thrown the ball as much. You know, I think it was a Patriots game, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, he was great against the Patriots, except his left tackle was terrible and, you know, limited him, but that's not an issue. Right. So, I mean, there are, you know, and let's get the Dolphins defense credit. You know,

they've been a big part of their success this season as well. You know, everybody looks at the offense, but the defense has been sort of carrying them, you know, at times this year as well. I think Josh Allen's going to have, you know, not a monstrous game unless he's rushing for, you know, 8,200 yards and a touchdown. He's done that against the Dolphins. You know, it's kind of been their Achilles heel in trying to stop him. He's had a lot of big games against them. So, again, I think we're just wasting a lot of time talking about starting. I mean, maybe, but I just, like, last year,

I remember he struggled in some cold weather games. I don't want to hear that he's Josh Allen and he can't possibly struggle in cold weather games. Like I said yesterday, if the weather is bad, the over-under is going down. Are you sitting Josh Allen? No, I'm not sitting Josh Allen. I am trying to represent

the people out there who are going to ask the question because I know it's going to get asked. I know it's going to get asked. People are going to ask the question because I know it's going to get asked. Who was asked that question? I know it's going to get asked. People are going to ask about Josh Allen a lot this week. And I mean, maybe not because... Thomas, post the poll. Would anyone consider benching Josh Allen in week 15?

Yeah, go ahead. Post it. Let's see. I bet it's 20%. I'll take the other. I mean, maybe. All right, here's our bet. If it's under 20 percent our kareem hunt ben is null fine i think it's already null and void um i'm validating the people who have 20 percent in a blind poll but there's no way it's 20 when people have been watching this argument

for the last 10 minutes they're going to vote against you i'm going to vote again i'm going to vote against me it's not against me i'm just rep against me. I'm just, I am a man of the people. I am a man of the people. I am representing the people. What people? Who's bending down now? Look, I'm telling you, I get the questions

on Sunday morning. It's not going to happen this week because he's playing on Saturday. I get the questions on Sunday morning. I see some people are worried about Josh Allen.

And honestly, they've got a right to be. He hasn't been that great for fantasy in the last seven games. You're spinning it the wrong way. People worried about Josh Allen, I think, is more, I need 40 points to win my fantasy league.

Is he going to get them for me? They're not worried about, am I sitting Josh Allen? I mean, I get some questions. Should I sit Josh? When was it? It would be different. I swear to you it would be different if Justin Fields had a better matchup.

First couple weeks of elbow injury, when Justin Fields was a monster, people had that scenario. I swear to you, it would be different if Justin Fields had a better matchup. First couple of weeks of elbow injury when Justin Fields was a monster. People had that snare. I get it. That's fine. This week, first week fantasy playoffs. There's no one that's jumping off the page that you could have added. Trevor Lawrence.

Mike White included as much as people like Mike White. Trevor Lawrence will be a guy where people, people ask Trevor Lawrence or Josh Allen. I, people will ask that. I will tell Josh Allen to everyone. I'm not saying to sit Josh Allen. Okay.

Here we go. Bill's running back. You want to start one? No. No, thank you. Mostert over Singletary Overcook. Okay. Gabe Davis. This show is going to be an hour and 45 minutes. Dear God.

I'm leaving in an hour. Gabe Davis. Um, Darter say, uh, I would say Gabe Davis. You can, I think he's a number three wide receiver that,

you know, he still has the possibility to win you your week. He also might give you four points from your number three wide receiver, but you can win with four points from your number three wide receiver. If I start three receivers, I'm starting him. I would start Chris Moore over him. I don't blame you.

I mean, I would start Gabe Davis, but they're very close. I think one's like 35, the other one's like 40, so it's not a huge stretch for me. Okay. You're really going to start Chris Moore over him? I really would start Chris Moore over him. I wish I had that option because I would really do it.

Boy, wow. I can't believe I said that out loud. Would I really do it? Yeah, I would. Look, this is the time. You've probably had these scenarios throughout the course of the season. You can't worry about, I drafted this guy in this is the this is the time you know we've you've probably had these scenarios throughout the course of season you can't worry about i drafted this guy in this spot i have these expectations for this player he has been bad yeah there's no way i mean you just made a case heath

to sit mike evans it's the same situation right they're they're both getting targets they're both getting opportunities they're both struggling they're both not producing they're not finding the end zone like there's no difference to me. Yes, they can win you your week. They've lost you probably five or six. Right. Well, I think it's different when that guy's like, when that guy's your number one wide receiver, he can lose you a week.

If he's your number three receiver, I don't think that loses you a week. Why? I mean, you're going to have lots of flexes and number three wide receivers that score in single digits. But Chris Moore can also win you your week, too. I mean, they could both end up with four points. So the Dolphins do give up a lot of big plays, but so do the Lions, so do the Browns.

And he played them recently, and Gabe Davis stunk against both of them. As of right now, I have Gabe Davis as a flex in a three-receiver PPR league. It's going to be him or it's going to be David Montgomery. I'm going to have to decide between the two, and I'm probably going to go with David Montgomery. That one's Montgomery easy.

Yeah. So that means I'm starting Dobbins. But you do hate Montgomery. And I'm starting Christian Watson over Gabe Davis. I do hate Montgomery. I think he's going to be awful this week. But I'm going to start over. Watson is what we hoped Gabe Davis would be.

I shouldn't say I think he's going to be awful. I think Montgomery could be awful this week. Okay. That's it for this. Oh, Dawson Knox, start or sit? Sit. I don't want to. Okay. We're going to sit him.

Let's go to Dallas and Jacksonville. So there is certainly some optimism, I think, about the Jaguars' offense. They've been playing well lately, not so much against Detroit, but they were great against Baltimore. Most of that was late. They were great last week against Tennessee.

The Cowboys have allowed the third fewest points. They're one of four teams that are allowing the fewest yards per play in the NFL at 4.8. They have the second most sacks in the NFL. They have the highest pressure rate in the NFL. They held the Vikings to three points, I think. The Lions to six points. The Eagles to 26, which is well below their average. The Bengals to 17.

I mean, they're awesome. So convince me that, Heath, you can go first. Convince me that Trevor Lawrence and Christian Kirk and Zay Jones are going to be good this week. I'm a little bit nervous about the Jacksonville offense, but Lawrence has been playing out of his mind lately. Zay Jones has double digit targets in three of his last four games and his wide receiver 15 over the last month. I think if they struggle early, then you're going to get garbage time because I don't necessarily think that their defense is stocking the Cowboys offense. And if they get going early, then it just turns into a shootout. So either way, I think we're getting 40 plus pass attempts from Trevor Lawrence. And you just kind of have to bet on the fact that he has turned a new page in his career and he's maybe not as good as he's been the last month, but he's taken a new level and he's just a top 10 quarterback that you

don't sit. Uh, would you expect both Christian Kirk and Zay Jones to have seven or more targets? Yes. Well, that brings me to the stat of the game. There have been 11 wide receivers with seven or more targets against the

Cowboys. Seven of those 11 have scored 17.7 or more PPR fantasy points. Huge games. And that includes each of the last four. The ones who did not, the ones who had seven or more targets and did not come through were mostly bad, but Jamar Chase was one. Sterling Shepard, Curtis Samuel, Ben Skoranek, all of that early in the season. So to sum it up, you get a lot of targets.

You get seven or more targets against Dallas. You usually come through with a good or sometimes great game. Jamie, which quarterback do you prefer? I prefer Dak, but it's close. You know, I think this Jacksonville secondary is certainly beatable more so than the Jaguars, than the Cowboys secondary um and it's also I think counting on the fact that the Jaguars offense will show up so that Dak's not just going to hand the ball off 50 times in this game and we'll be throwing enough so that's the one area

of this Cowboys offense that they have to sort of correct a little bit you know Dak's been a little turnover prone um and I think they're trying to work some things out as a passing offense. The addition of T.Y. Hilton is interesting. We'll see if he plays. So yeah, I think Dak's just a little bit safer, but I would not be surprised if Lawrence is better. Okay. Start both Cowboys running backs over ETN?

Yep. Both of them are top 10 guys for me with Elliott higher than Pollard. Wow, top 10 guys for me with Elliot higher than Pollard wow top 10 Schaefer did you put that poll up for the Josh Allen poll I don't see it you don't have to I don't need to be proven wrong so it's okay it's on YouTube

oh it's on YouTube oh okay my bad what are the results so far you're getting killed is it a 20% no it's not a 20% let me look Oh, okay, my bad. What are the results so far? You're getting killed. Is it a 20%? No, it's not a 20%. Let me look real quick. I didn't say 20%. I said 20 people, right?

No, you said 20%. Oh, it's a 16%. 16%. We're fine. We'll get there. Okay. Travis ETN or David Montgomery? Montgomery.

Montgomery. Travis Etienne or Brian Robinson against the Giants? Non-PPR, it's easy. It's Robinson. PPR, it's close. I'd probably give the non-ETN with the hope that he catches a pass. Yep. He usually does.

Last week, no catches, no targets. Usually in the two-to-three catch range. All right. What's tricky in this game? How about Kirk and Zay Jones? Let's talk about them. Do you think Kirk gets Trayvon Diggs? And that could be bad,

because he's done a great job against Lazard, Pittman. I don't know if he shut down Justin Jefferson, but he did shadow Justin Jefferson with a terrible game. That does concern me a little bit with Kirk. Jamie, your thoughts on those wide receivers? I have Kirk lower this week than I've probably had the last several weeks. A lot of that has to do with not just Zay Jones, but also Evan Ingram's performance.

I think you just look at Lawrence, and this speaks to what Heath was saying, is as he's evolving, he's not just locking in on one guy. He's finding the open receiver. He's reading the field. You know, so his second read is third read. So Kirk might be the first option on a particular route. But in any event, you know, I think you're starting Kirk. It's hard to get away from what his upside could be

and what should be a potential shootout. Okay. Man, there's a lot to talk about in this game. Heath, you like both tight ends? Which tight end do you like better, and you're starting them both? I'm starting them both. I think I have Schultz one spot ahead of Ingram, but they're both top eight-ish

guys. How many targets do you think for Ingram? Seven. Seven? Seven. He's had seven games this season with at least six targets, and his worst game in that situation has been nine PPR points. So I think he's kind of figured that's his floor, which is pretty good.

Okay. Even a tough matchup. How would you guys rank ETN, Christian Kirk, Zay Jones as flexes? Kirk, Zay, Etienne in PPR. I'd probably go Kirk, Etienne, Zay, but they're all like... Kirk's definitely first. I don't know if you said this. I'm sorry. Zay Jones or Gabe Davis?

Davis. Zay Jones or Gabe Davis? Davis. Zay. All right. I think that's basically it. Start CeeDee Lamb. Obviously start T.Y. Hilton. He has 300-yard games in his career against the Jaguars. That's a joke. And Michael Gallup? No. Okay. By the

way, Geno Smith or one of these quarterbacks? These quarterbacks. I've got them really close right now i have it lawrence geno deck okay oh cowboys dst what do you think uh you're still starting them i mean you know you it's it's the hope that trevor lawrence does well but you know we've seen him you know in him in just a similar type of matchup. It was in the rain, but he had five turnovers against the Eagles. It was certainly a different type of player at that point. But anytime you're going to get a quarterback throwing as much as he's probably going to throw in this game, there's going to be the opportunity for turnovers against this type of team.

Plus, he'll be dropping back so much, they'll be able to probably hit him a few times. Okay. Would you start the commanders over them? I would, yes. All right. Let's go to the Lions at the Jets. I said to myself, how is it that Mike White and Joe Flacco have thrown so many passes when they have been the quarterback? The Jets right now are 13th in plays per game.

They average 64.4 plays per game. But in the non-Zack Wilson weeks, they are averaging 73.3 plays per game, which if they did that over a full season would be number one by a mile. I think the Cardinals lead the NFL with about 68 plays per game. Zach Wilson, they're just slower with him,

and they're on the field less probably. You're seeing so much volume. We talk about White and Flacco both checking down so much. The best way to run a lot of plays, being fast helps, but the more important thing is continually picking up first downs. They don't

have a lot of big plays, but they get a lot of first downs. That's a good point. And they're the fifth fastest-paced team in the NFL. Okay, this is really an interesting game. High scoring, low scoring, because the defenses are playing well, but the Detroit offense has been on a roll,

but it's on the road. So, Jamie, high scoring, low scoring, what do you think? Is this a good fantasy game? I think Vegas has it pretty good. I can see 24-20 type of game. So the thing that I struggle with is the Lions scoring. I think the Jets will score.

I certainly think they'll score through the air. And it's just a matter of will the Lions be able to overcome some of their road deficiencies? Will they be able to run against a very good run defense? And so they have a lot of things working against them, but their offense has just been fantastic. So we'll see if it translates to leaving the comforts of Detroit and playing in some uncomfortable situations against a good defense. So I'm a little bit more nervous about the Detroit offense

than I am the Jets offense. So who are you confidently starting in this game? Confidently starting Amon Ross St. Brown, just I think he's matchup proof. I'm confidently starting Garrett Wilson. I think he's been just amazing with everybody not named Zach Wilson. And that is probably it from a confident standpoint. Now, I think you can obviously make cases for Bam Knight. You can make cases for DeAndre Swift. You obviously make cases for bam knight you can make cases for deandre swift you can make cases for oh i'm sorry uh yeah you make cases for for uh swift you can make cases for make a case for um mike white but for me really and conklin just because the position he plays but outside of that that's really it like i'm not starting charke i'm not there yet with elijah

moore in terms of must start and uh jamal Williams is very, very scary this week. Yeah. How about you, Heath? What do you think? Same question. I agree with, with pretty much, I mean, I would, I think I'm close enough to say I'm confidently starting night and I am starting Swift as a top 20 running back or 24 for sure. Conklin is a like right around 12 and so is White. So that's not a confident start at all, but they're startable. I don't want to start Chark or Jamal.

But you like Knight better than Swift? Yes. Same. All right, we've got to talk about Bam Knight a little bit more here. Bam Knight or Gabe Davis, Zay Jones? Bam. I would go Zay in PPR, then Bam, then Davis. I would start Knight over Davis in all formats.

This Detroit run defense has just been fantastic. It's, you know, the thing I keep going back to with Knight, and I've said this to a few people that have asked me about him, is, and I've actually had legitimate questions about Knight, unlike your Josh Allen South. I think you look at it this way. If this was Brees Hall against this defense, how would you feel? And the answer is easy.

He's a must-start guy. Bam Knight is obviously not Brees Hall. But you're seeing a very productive player in this backfield. And so he's 70% of what Brees Hall might be doing 80%, you know, however you want to gauge it. So I think by that reasoning, at least for me, he's a number two running back. Can you make cases for other players against him? Clearly. But, you know, you look at some of the guys that they've shut down, you know, Barkley and ETN and Aaron Jones wasn't even good when he played.

He got hurt, but he wasn't good. Dalvin Cook was horrible. Oh, my gosh. Dalvin Cook was awful. Oh, he scored, but 15 carries, 23 yards, and a touchdown, one catch for 13 yards. It's seven straight games, single-digit PPR fantasy points for a running back against the Lions.

It's crazy. Amazing turnaround. Okay, so, by the way, I just want to ask, we can do another poll on this if you want, but this is a team that has recently held Stefan Diggs to 37 yards, Justin Jefferson to 45 yards, you know, earlier in the year.

So Jamar Chase, Deontay Johnson, Tyreek Hill, Cortland Sutton, Justin Jefferson, Jacoby Myers, Gabe Davis twice, Stefan Diggs once, all 52 or fewer yards. So do you downgrade Amongrade amandra saint brown is he maybe something like 15th you know instead of fifth not yes i i that was one i looked at my rankings uh at two in the morning last night when i was doing a overhaul a little bit from starts it that you know i felt i had a little too high but it's like he's he feels like he's just the safest thing for this this offense so um but yeah i i think you could certainly make

case that garrett wolson's in a better spot jim mcclure's in a better spot um cd lamb's in a better spot you know so there there's there's a lot of guys that i have probably ranked a few spots behind him but again you're not benching him on st brown you know if you want to have the josh conversation all over again we can't but no nobody's benching St. Brown, I think. Somebody in our chat, Gabriel, says, I'll release my entire roster before I bench Josh Allen. Okay. Oh, boy.

So, yeah, Charks to sit. Tyler Conklin or Jeff Driscoll, Heath? Conklin, full PPR, Driscoll and none. Mike White or Derek Carr? Mike White. Mike White. The Lions allow, I think, the most fantasy points to quarterbacks? The most.

Yeah. Yep. Mike White or... You're going to take Geno Smith, right? Not me. I've got Geno just ahead of him right now, but I've got a feeling by the time we get to Thursday night, I might have Mike White ahead of him.

I'm a little bit worried about that, like most of the offense in that game tonight. You made a sound aside, Adam. You would start Geno over Mike White? I would. I think Mike White has a touchdown problem. If you look at his career, he has two games with three touchdown passes.

That was awesome. But a lot of times he's at zero or one touchdown pass and he doesn't throw the ball downfield. How many games has Mike White started? Six or six starts. That's just an unfair thing to say. He's played six games and he has two games with three touchdowns.

Did Dino Smith have a touchdown problem before this year? A lot of games. So he's Mike White games and he has two games with three touchdowns. Do you know Smith have a touchdown problem for this year? A lot of games. He's really, so he's Mike white, first of all. And also he, you know, the,

the lions do give up a lot of fantasy points to quarterbacks. A lot of it is rushing. He's Mike white. First of all, I mean, how insulting can you be? I, so anyway,

sorry. Um, I, I, I think when you throw a lot of passes and they're short, you get touchdown problems like Tom Brady and Matt Ryan and all that. So that's what he's doing. He's throwing a lot of passes, but he's mostly very concerned.

If only he could be Tom Brady or Matt Ryan. Yeah. So I would start. I don't want to. I am starting him in my Kyler Murray league, but I don't want to rely on Mike White as my fantasy quarterback in the playoffs. But Gino Smith is an MVP candidate whose team is not. No.

No, no. He's a fantasy MVP candidate, and he has played for most of the year. No, wait, stop. I'm tired of you guys laughing at me. He has played for most of the year just No, wait, stop. I'm tired of you guys laughing at me. He has played for most of the year just about as well as any quarterback in football, and I will stand by that. Geno Smith has been outstanding this year.

He's struggled of late. He's admitted that it's been a little bit of a tough go for him because he's pressing and trying to be more aggressive. He has no run game to support him for the last month. He's struggling of late because he's throwing interceptions, but meanwhile, he's scoring 23 or more fantasy points every single week. And he hasn't done that against the 49ers. That's true.

And he was terrible against the Niners earlier. But he will have zero run game tonight. He's going to throw, throw, throw. And he will get his two touchdown passes. So I'll take him over my head. I just want to recap your day so far. So you want to bench Josh now? No, I don't. I said no. I'm starting him over I just want to recap your your day so far so you want to bench Josh now I don't I said no I'm starting this is my recap this is okay okay you want to bench Josh Allen you just said Mike White stinks because he's Tom Brady or Matt Ryan and that Geno Smith

is an MVP I mean if the Seahawks were better, no one's winning the MVP over Hurts or Mahomes. But Geno's been freaking great this year. He has been so good, and he deserves credit for it. All right, this game's over. Jets, DST, start or sit? Low-end starter. Oh, my gosh. We have got a lot to get to here.

We've got to take a break. Well, I'm glad we've covered all the important things. In the next 15 minutes, 20 minutes, we've got to talk about five games. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. All right, we're back to talk Kansas City at Houston. Start all, sit all. Next game. Nope.

There have been 17 wide receivers with seven or more targets against the Chiefs. 15 of them have scored 12.5 or more PPR fantasy points. I do think you can get that from Chris Moore. What about Amari Rodgers? Eh, whatever. I just don't understand. Amari Rodgers was your guy

like three years ago. Oh, stop with that. He's young. Chris Moore's 29 years old and had one good game and you've decided that he's a must-start wide receiver. Amari Rodgers might be the number one wide receiver in this game. Based on what? Based on the fact that Chris Moore had like 12, 120 yards last week or something like that?

I don't remember his stat off the top of my head. But why would Amari Rodgers be the number one wide receiver? He's been on the team for less than a month. I don't know if that's true, but he's been on the team very briefly. No, look, I'm playing game script here. Chiefs are going to win big. Texans are going to have to throw. Two games without Cooks and Collins.

Chris Moore has delivered 15 or more PPR fantasy points in both games. That's all. It's not a must start. I'm trying to think outside the box here, folks. I think Chris Moore is a very good plug-and-play receiver if you're stuck. If you don't love Mike Evans or Gabe Davis and you're a significant underdog, you're the six-seed playing the three-seed,

the three-seed is the number one scoring team in your league and you need to hit some home runs, this is the type of guy that can help you win. But, I mean, he obviously takes a very logical approach to his fantasy rankings his projections and and logically it does not make sense that why is going to be but why wouldn't you project a lot of targets for him in this game because it could be a game where you know jeff driscoll's running a lot of crazy plays and it could be a situation where rex burkhead has a bit i mean you know we haven't seen a lot of consistency from this texans offense across the board really for the last month you know i mean

nico collins had some good games brandon cooks has disappeared you know it's just they're all we haven't seen a lot of consistency from this Texans offense across the board really for the last month. You know, I mean, Neuquen Collins, that's some good games. Brandon cooks has disappeared. You know, it's just, they're all over the place. So I'm with you, Adam.

I think you could have a good game. I think you, you, you look at the chiefs, you look at the game script, you look at the opportunity that he has, it's worth the gamble. But,

you know, again, this is a, a, a career journeyman. That's never had the opportunity like this. Is he taking advantage of it? You know,

is he having his Brandon Lloyd moment? Sure. He could, he could clearly, you know clearly step up and have another big game. But something you definitely want to count on? No, no, no. He's enough. You said earlier this week, again, to put it on the list of things that you said,

that you would rank him as a top 24 guy. I said he'd be around 24th. This is in the list of things that JB said incorrectly. I would downgrade him because I didn't quite realize at the time how involved Jeff Driscoll was playing half the snaps. So I think they might want to do that. That could be better for him. I don't know. It won't be better.

I don't think. Well, no, if you go back to what you said earlier in the show about Jeff Driscoll, that if they're throwing a lot and he's not on the field and it is Davis Mills, then he could see 20 targets this week. That's what I'm saying. If Driscoll's playing half the snaps, that's a bad thing. I don't think he will, though, because I think the Chiefs are going to crush the Texans, unlike the Cowboys last week. The reason, when Jamie said earlier,

the logical thing is he's not going to get that many targets again. The reason I would say that is because he's 29 years old and it's the first time that's ever happened in his career. I don't think he's going to get 11, but how many targets have you projected for? Probably seven, and he had seven just like a month ago.

Week 11 against Washington, which is not a very good pass defense. He turned those seven targets into five catches for 20 yards. Yeah, it could happen. Gabe Davis, the same stuff. You know, Gabe Davis has had

more than seven targets once, but this is a great matchup. Much, much better than Washington. Whatever, I'm done talking about that. Pistar Mahomes. Do you have any concerns about the Chiefs against this surprising defense? Not really.

I guess the only really guy you've got to be concerned about from who's been a must-start guy for them during the season is Juju for a couple reasons. One, we've noted this, that they just don't give a lot of production to passing games. And he's been inconsistent, whether due to injury or just, you know, not the same involvement over the last month. You know, he's coming off of a game. Hopefully that carries over.

Now Mikko Hardman looks like he's going to be back. So, you know, maybe a couple targets go a different direction. And if they're running the ball with a lot of success, you know, maybe Mahomes doesn't have a 400-yard game, you know, and everybody's eating. So Juju's, I think, a very good number three receiver. Not a slam dunk, though. Unless, of course, like you noted, Nelson and Stingley are both out.

The last five healthy games for Juju Smith-Schuster, he's had 18.8 or more PPR points in four of them. Buffalo, San Francisco, Tennessee. You're including the Bengals game as an injury game. No. I think that's the bad one. That's the one of the five. He had two bad ones coming back from the injury,

but I wouldn't count this Bengals game as a healthy game because I think he played 30% of the snaps or something. No, no. No, that was just the game where Mahomes threw for 223 yards. That was the bad game I was talking about. I guess the one before that I didn't count as a healthy game. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, right, that does not include the Rams game

where he played like 38% of the snaps or something. Okay, that's a hell of an Azers stat. Yeah, fine. His last five games was like a regular snap share. 18.8 or more PPR fantasy points in four or five games. You guys are crushing me today. I do not deserve this. Okay, sit the Texas.

Can you make any case for Rex Burkhead here? Like, would you start him over Ken Walker? I'm not there with him, but I think you can make a case that, you know, when you look at some of the questionable number one guys, so let's say it's Pierre Strong, you can make a case that Burkhead's in a better spot because he has one game this season where he was the featured guy. It was week one, and he got 12 PPR points, had 14 carries in that that game i think it was five catches in that game you know didn't do a lot

with it uh damian pierce was on the on the team then they just didn't use him if you go back to that game against the colts which at the time we thought the colts had a really good run defense so um this is a game where i think if he's going to be involved in the passing game which you can clearly see as as the potential now it could be a gumumbawale, so I wouldn't put any stock in it being a slam dunk. But if he's getting the chance to play on passing downs and knowing that they're going to be chasing points and knowing how bad the Chiefs have been against pass-catching running backs, there is a path to success for him. So I don't mind him in the same vein of Chris Moore. There's a lot of guys for the Texans that could be home run hitting type of guys for you

that can absolutely whiff. Driscoll, Chris Moore, Rex Burkett. They're all high ceilings. Very, very low floors. Yep. Yes, I acknowledge Chris Moore is a very low floor. Arizona's at Denver. Stat of the game number one.

In six games with Colt McCoy over the last two seasons, James Conner has scored 13.4 or more PPR points in all six games. And how about this? 21 or more PPR fantasy points in four of six games. Gets a lot of passes from Colt McCoy. He's been really good. Stat of the game number two. Okay, this is interesting here.

As you look at Latavius Murray, the Cardinals have allowed 17 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in seven of their last eight games. Does that do anything for you, Heath Cummings? It's hard to go back to him after last week, and especially the way that the Broncos kind of went away from him. They were trying to give Mike Boone more work early. They gave Marlon Mack more work late.

His snap share went back down to around 50%, which is what he was playing with Melvin Gordon. I think he's a high-end flex. I would rather start him over Rex Burkhead. I'd rather start him over Pierre Strong. But I'm not very excited about it. Okay, Latavius. There is no more

Mike Boone, so that's good. I think just from a playing time standpoint. Marlon Mack, I don't know if he's the same threat because you go back before Boone was part of the team after they got rid of Gordon. It was definitely a lot of Latavius Murray. And so I'm curious what they did in the start. It was against the Jets, right?

When Rippon started. He threw 40-something passes against the Jets. Right, but how did the run game look? Because Gordon was on the team then and Murray was on the team, right? But that was before Murray joined the team. Honestly, I don't remember. I just know Brees Hall got hurt in that game.

But I can try to find that for you. They lost 16-9. Melvin Gordon led the team with 33 rushing yards. Latavius Murray did have a touchdown, but it was eight carries, 24 yards, and a score. In the passing game, he had three targets, two catches, negative one yards. That might have been his first game with the team. Maybe. All right, let's go through this game quickly here

because there aren't... Second game of the team. Ken Walker or Latavius Murray was my question. Walker. Heath? I've got Walker one spot higher. Oh. Okay.

So the must-starts in this game are Hopkins and Connor. And do you consider Jerry Judy a must-start? 100% if Sutton is out. Number two, wide receiver. And if Sutton's in? Judy or Sutton, low-end number two receiver. Yeah, maybe right around 24. right in the Chris Moore range. Would the presence of Byron Murphy change anything for you?

No. Okay. Marquise Brown or Chris Moore? Brown. Brown, but it's close. What is this all about? Adam looks like the type of guy to say cha-cha-cha after singing Happy Birthday. Fair. I don't think I'm that guy. I don't think I'm that guy. You're going to do it now, I bet. I don't think I've ever said. I don't think I'm that guy. You're going to do it now, I bet. I don't think I've ever said cha-cha-cha after a birthday rendition.

Happy birthday rendition. Okay, anything else in this game? If Russell Wilson makes it back, would you start him? He's 49% rostered. I would not. No. Okay, Murray's a flex. Judy, Dulcich.

Dulcich or Ingram Najoku? Right now I have Dulcich behind those guys because we've seen some failures and some decent matchups. But he did have his most targets with Brett Rippen on his center in that Jets game. And so hopefully that's a good sign.

Not playing is a good sign. Cardinals being terrible against tight ends is a good sign. Yeah, I got Ingram, Dulcich, Njoku. I think that covers this game. The Denver DST is top eight for everyone. Number one for Heath, the Broncos DST. Cardinals DST is about 12th to 15th.

By the way, speaking of tight ends, do you know number one in yards per target is Dallas Goddard? Do you know which tight end is number two in yards per target? Jay McBride. Oconquo. Hunter Henry. And that brings us to New England at the Raiders. And Hunter Henry had three targets last week.

He turned it into 70 yards against the Cardinals. New England at the Raiders. Hunter Henry had three targets last week. He turned it into 70 yards against the Cardinals. New England at the Raiders. Okay. Heath, give me the 15 second overview of starts and sits for this game. Obviously, Josh Jacobs and Devontae Adams are must starts. If Darren Waller's back, you're probably

starting him as a low end starting tight end. I'm not sure I'd call him a must start. He'd be behind Dulcich for me. There's not a must start on the a must-start. He'd be behind Dulcich for me. There's not a must-start on the Patriots unless Ramondre Stevenson's back. We did the breakdown of the Patriots running backs earlier. I like Nelson Aguilar as a number three wide receiver if Jacoby Myers and Devontae Parker are both out. What if Jacoby Myers plays and it's sort of trending that way?

Where does he rank with, say, Mike Evans and Gabe Davis? Just behind. All right. I mean, this is becoming a really good matchup. The Raiders have allowed... I would put him ahead in PPR. Okay. The Raiders have allowed 76 or more yards

to a wide receiver in six straight games. Christian Kirk, Paris Campbell, Sutton, Metcalf, Keenan Allen, Ben Skoranek. A lot of slot receivers in there. I kind of like Aguilar if one of the two guys are out. If both play, I would not look at him, but would not be surprised if he has six to seven targets, regardless of, again, one of the two being out.

I like him more if Myers is out, but revenge game for him, too. He spent a year with the Raiders. Yeah, a good year with them. Okay, Damian Harris is now 70% rostered. So let's do this real quick. If Ramondre Stevenson... He's done his job.

Yeah, he was 69% when I tweeted. Now he's 70. He's actually 67 on Tuesday. Hey, all right. If Ramondre Stevenson starts, he would be a top blank running back. 12th. Top 12.

Lower than normal, but still top 12. If Damian Harris plays and Ramondre Stevenson is out, Harris would be a top blank running back. 18-ish. 20, but yeah. If Harris and Stevenson are both out, your favorite Patriots running back would be blank, and he would rank blank.

Pierre Strong, low 30s. Pierre Strong, around 30. Derek Henry, or sorry, Hunter Henry is... Derek Henry or Hunter Henry, guys? Hunter Henry is now facing another good matchup. The Raiders have allowed... It's actually really not a good matchup. 26th against tight ends,

57 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in seven games. It's very skewed by two games from Gerald Everett, one monstrous game from Travis Kelsey. Yeah. And they really have not been that bad against most other tight ends. Yeah, well, Ertz had 75 yards.

Aitken, 68 yards. Grantson, 40. You're right. There's four tight ends that have had 10 or more PPR points against them. Jeff Swain was one. Ertz was one. Everett twice, so five times. And Kelsey.

Okay. But Kelsey's game, I think, is kind of what pushes this number down toward us. They have not allowed a touchdown since week five when Kelsey had four of them. Yes. And, and Hunter Henry, while I think was worth the gamble against the Cardinals and did not crush you with 10 PPR points.

He has two touchdowns on the season. He hasn't exactly been lighting it up. He hasn't been commanding a lot of targets. So could he score? Sure. But you know, I would take my chances with Taysom Hill this week. I would take my chances in non PPR with Jeff Driscoll over him.

And I'm claiming victory. Chigokonkwo does have more yards per target than Hunter Henry. Oh, does he? He's just not qualified? One of them has 42 targets. One of them has 31. So the cutoff must be somewhere in between those two. Oh, wow.

Okay. Okonkwo, yeah. I mean, Okonkwo and Hooper, we're going to talk about that game shortly, but they have almost the same ADOT, and Okonkwo's averaging about five yards more per catch after the catch. So he's making some plays. He's more athletic than Austin Hooper.

The last guy to talk about is Derek Carr here, I think. We'll talk a little more about Waller, but obviously coming off a real terrible game, but the five games before that, he was the number five quarterback in fantasy. Heath, do you have any faith in Derek Carr this week? I do not. I don't want to start him.

He's a number two quarterback. I think I've got him around 18th. Don't like the matchup very much. I think it's going to be a low-scoring game. Okay. Jamie feels the same way. He's got him about 18th. Don't like the matchup very much. I think it's going to be a low-scoring game. Jamie feels the same way. He's got him about 18th, so you can sit Derek Carr and Darren Waller. Did I ask you Darren Waller questions already?

I keep getting mixed up. Sort of. You keep asking us, would he be top 8-ish? Heath has said top 12 because he's Darren Waller. I think you've got to be a little bit concerned about long rust for a leg injury, but it's hard if you've been sitting on a player like that and playing sort of tight end roulette to not play him. So I think the tough calls would be like a Chigokonko

if there is no Traylon Burks. I could see it being a tough call with Dolchich, for example, just because he hasn't exactly been consistent. If you're concerned about the match with Dolchich, for example, just because, you know, he hasn't exactly been consistent. You know, if you're concerned about the matchup for Ingram, for example, you can make that decision. Njoku, you can make that decision because you've picked those guys up along the way potentially. But the Patriots have struggled at times against tight ends, you know, more early in the season than later than lately. So hopefully he delivers. I am curious, though, to see.

And this does impact their cart. Hunter Renfro could play. And now you have clearly what is going to be maybe his best set of weapons ever. Certainly since, you know, Crabtree Cooper of Adams Waller Renfro what Matt Collins has become as, you know, the, the fourth or fifth option, Josh Jacobs out of the backfield. There's a lot to throw at the Patriots with Josh McDaniels in a revenge game. He may be better than we're giving him credit for. It's easy to look at what happened last week

and him vomiting all over himself, but he could easily bounce back at home against the Patriots. They haven't exactly been lights out. If they hit him, he's going to be in trouble. They hit their second-best pressure rate team in the NFL. Okay, let's go to Baltimore, Cleveland. By the way, Jamie does not like the Patriots Okay, let's go to Baltimore or Cleveland.

By the way, Jamie does not like the Patriots' DST. Heath does quite a bit. The Ravens are at Cleveland here. I should move them up a little higher. Okay. The stat of the game, running backs are averaging 2.55 yards per carry against the Ravens in five games since the Roquan Smith trade.

Ah! So I'm sure Nick Chubb is a little lower than usual, but Jamie, where'd you come out on Nick Chubb? I've sort of waffled a little bit this week between like 12 and 15. You know, I've gone back and forth with like Pacheco, for example,

um, Dalvin cook, who's obviously not playing very well. And you know, his, his situation, I probably should move cook higher than, than Chubb, but he's not scoring. um dalvin cook who's obviously not playing very well and you know his his situation i probably should move cook higher than chubb but he's not scoring and certainly in the two games since

watson has been there he's not been productive in the two games since watson has been there and so now taking on this this defense it's it's a little concerning yeah so i i think nick chubb is a is a contrarian play in dfs if you want call him that. But you're clearly not benching him unless you're loaded, but it's tough. Yeah, high-end number two running back for me. He's one of those guys that you're worried because he might give you a dud and knock you out of the playoffs, but you can't be worried to the extent to where you might start

somebody else over right off the bat. Yeah, he's had some really – Nick Chubb has had some bad game over. I don't think so. Yeah, he's had some really... Nick Chubb has had some bad game scripts. I talked about this yesterday. He's getting blown out a lot. Or a game like an eight-point loss to the Bills was a 15-point game in the fourth quarter, and he's just not getting a lot of carries.

But they should be competitive in this game, especially if it's Anthony Brown, a quarterback, and that would bode well for him. Because the last two times they were competitive, he got 20-something carries against the Buc Brown, a quarterback, and that would bode well for him because the last two times they were competitive, he got 20-something carries against the Bucs in a win, 18 carries against the Texans in a win. You just want to see the work better. Okay, so Amari Cooper is at home.

Woo-hoo! Start or sit, Jamie? I don't have him as a start. So he's a starter in three receiver leagues. It's hard to go against the home production. He's just been amazing. But this is also a really good secondary. And, you know, we've seen this.

You know, the Dolphins game, for example, Xavier Howard made things tough on Cooper. He's not played well the last two weeks. He has the hip injury that he's dealing with. And so he's not 100%. He's not practicing very much. So we could have a Sean Watson problem for Cooper. We could have a defensive problem for him if Marlon Humphrey decides that that's the way to decide to do much. So we could have a Sean Watson problem for Cooper. We could have a defensive problem for him if Marlon Humphrey decides that that's the way

they've decided to do it, that they're going to put Humphrey on him. So I don't think it's an easy layup for Amari Cooper. That being said, every time he's been at home, he's been just fantastic. Yeah. Okay, so would you start Jerry Judy or Amari Cooper? I have Jerry Judy, I think, in the top 12

and Cooper at like 26. Okay. Heath, would you start Gabe Davis or Amari Cooper? Amari Cooper ahead of Gabe Davis. They're in a very similar range, though. How about Donovan Peoples-Jones? Low-end number three wide receiver, boom-bust play, right in that Mike Evans range.

It's a good time to be Donovan Peoples-Jones with Cooper banged up and facing a defense that as recently as three weeks ago gave up a huge game to Zay Jones. So coming off a game with 12 targets, he could be the guy that Watson favors right now.

So we'll see. I went into the week saying I would start Donovan Peoples-Jones over Gabe Davis, but I'm not doing that anymore. anymore but as i said earlier i'm sitting both of them for uh david montgomery yeah you don't need to do that because you got chris moore you can i wish i wish if only i could be so lucky you better root against me heath because i'm coming for you in that league mr undefeated thefeated. The IDP League? Yeah, there's a couple other teams I'm a little bit more concerned about. But I'm your next matchup. Probably not.

Hey! Pick it against me? Well, I mean, you're 6-8 on the season. You know, we're coming on strong though. David Njoku is...

I think he's still at McCaffrey. At least I have Tom Brady. David Njoku is higher for Jamie than he is for Heath, but he's top 12. Unless you change that. He's top 12. He'll be

between 10 and 12. Right now, you have Oconquwo and Tyler Conklin, the guys with the Ankh in their name ahead of Njoku. The Ankh over the Oak. Well, but if you rearrange the letters in Njoku, you could get an Ankh. Am I on to something here or is that a coincidence? You're on to the fact that it's 10 a.m. already. I mean, let's go.

Okay. Okay, then I guess I won't read the comment about JB from the chat, which is funny but inaccurate. No, read it, read it, read it. All right, read it after we finish this game. Anything to say about Baltimore other than start Dobbins and start Andrews?

No. Uh-oh. Okay, people are going to ask about Tyler Huntley. So if he plays, he would be where in your rankings 15 to 18 alright Jamie totally looks like a guy who would flip out on a Starbucks barista

I don't get that at all you're definitely the most likely person to flip out on a barista me? you're wrong about that none of us would. I don't drink coffee, so that's... Schneier

would. Yeah, Jamie doesn't drink coffee. Schneier definitely would. No, Schneier wouldn't, but none of us would. By the way, Mark Andrews is not the number two tight end. He's like fifth this week. Do you have Dalton Schultz, I guess? I moved him up from where I originally had him

with the potential of Huntley starting. To what? Five. Oh, it's five. Okay. Last game, Tennessee is at the Chargers. Start the running backs. Start Herbert. Start Keenan Allen. Start Mike Williams. I guess the tight ends are...

By the way, everybody I said, Henry, Eckler, Herbert, Williams, Keenan, Allen, slam dunks this week? Yes. Okay. So how about the tight ends? How about Okonkwo and Hooper, Heath? What do you think?

I think Okonkwo does really get impacted by Traylon Burks, but assuming that Burks is not playing, but I think it's the assumption right now, he is right around tight end 12 and has quite a bit of upside because of the downfield profile and his plays after the catch. Hooper is a high in number two between 13 and 15. By the time this show ends, we will know Traylon Burks' status because it'll be Sunday morning. It's almost over. This is our last game. Where's Gerald Everett in comparison to the Tennessee? Behind for me.

Everett is behind. And if Burke's plays, you said he'd be like a number three boomer bus guy. Low at number three. Yeah. I mean, the Chargers, they don't see a lot of targets. They see, I think, the sixth fewest pass attempts in the NFL. But they're not exactly a great pass defense, and they give up a lot of big plays. So I guess final thought here, Jamie, is on Ryan Tannehill.

You've been sort of a Tannehill guy. Are you a Tannehill guy this week? I think he's got an opportunity to be top 15 quarterback. You know, I think it'll be 18 to 20 points. I think that what happened to them last week can easily happen to them again, where Henry gets going in the first half, their defense absolutely falls apart again against Herbert, who looks like he's Herbert again with his weapons back.

And then they're chasing points in the second half. And if that's the case, he's going to be throwing. And so then you see a situation where he kind of cobbles together enough fantasy production to be, you know, in that 21 to 23 point range. Okay. Uh,

update from Don. Jamie drinks too raw, get two raw eggs every morning instead of coffee. Now I am, uh, Rocky. Yeah. Um,

yeah, no, neither. No, that's disgusting. What is your morning? I like that Don has such a high opinion of me. Don's a regular in the chat. We appreciate Don.

Love Don. Thanks, everybody. Appreciate your time. We will talk to you tomorrow. We need between today's show and tomorrow's show, things that we think Dan would do. Dan's a very nice guy. He would not flip out at a barista.

No, it doesn't have to be flip out at a barista. It could be the guy that says, cha-cha-cha, happy birthday. Defend Daniel Jones. No, he's anti-Daniel Jones. You're wrong about that. All right, we'll be back tomorrow to talk about tonight's game and the NFC home games.

There you go. Thomas said it best. Dan would run to Twitter and complain about his barista. Wouldn't that be Chris? All right, we're out. Later, everyone.