Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (AFC): Tyreek Hill, Najee Harris, Calvin Ridley, Justin Herbert and More! (12/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Some trivia to start the show and then players we love (4:00) and players to avoid (6:15). Tua Tagovailoa will continue to dominate, but we're not quite ready to get Isiah Pacheco in our lineups unless we have no good options ... News and notes (14:00) and One Question for Each Game (24:00). How do we feel about Najee Harris, DeAndre Hopkins, Baker Mayfield, Khalil Shakir and Rico Dowdle? And who is our Workhorse Running Back to watch (32:10)? ... Start or Sit for Browns-Steelers (35:40), Chargers-Chiefs (46:40), Jaguars-Titans (52:30), Jets-Dolphins (59:50), Raiders-Bucs (1:06:30) and Bills-Rams (1:12:40) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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with iGaming Ontario. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Starts and sits for Fantasy Week 14. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football Today presented by Bet MGM, the Sportsbook born in Vegas. Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings. Okay, we're excited for tonight's game. We're excited to talk about today's slate. There's not a ton of pure AFC home games.

So we've got some AFC teams at NFC teams. Today we're talking Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chargers, Chiefs, Jaguars, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, Raiders, Bucks, Bills, Rams, Bengals, Cowboys. But I have a trivia question for you fine gentlemen. Jacoby Myers, and I think you're gonna get this by the way. Jacoby Myers is second on the Raiders in green zone targets inside the 10 yard line behind Brock Bowers,

but he's tied for second. He only has three. Jacobi Myers has three green zone targets. He's tied for second. Who's he tied with? Trey Tucker? Green zone, so it's inside the five, right? No, 10.

Inside the 10. I'm going to say that he is tied with Alexander Madison. Hold on one second, need to get this. He's tied with Devonte Adams for the second most green zone targets. I don't know. Dumb question. Okay, today on the show.

Wow, how's Deontay Johnson's numbers on the Panthers? I've just, it's just, it's interesting, right? Like it's amazing that Jacobi Byers is the same. I hope weontay Johnson's numbers on the Panthers? I've just it's just it's interesting, right? It's amazing that Jacobi Byers is the same. I hope we get more about what Amari Cooper has done with what he played the rounds. Okay, off to a great start. We're going to tell you which team is leading the NFL. That's what you led with today.

It was a joke. It was a fun little trivia question. Which team is leading the NFL? Talk about Jeremy's fantasy cops again. In yards per game since week eight? Which team is giving up the most big pass plays in their last three games? Will Levis has thrown seven touchdowns in his last four games, but what is weird about those seven touchdowns? I'm going to tell you all that in the next hour. All right. Players we love and players

to avoid. And then I have a very important fab note for everybody. Okay. Very important. Stay tuned for that. But Jamie, who do we love this week? Uh, to a time I low as the start of the week. So, uh, I hope he takes advantage of the jet's defense. That seems like it's going to be minus sauce Gardner. So I don't know if that's a plus or a minus based on the year that he's been having, but, uh, clearly you'd like to not see that player on the other side of the ball. Uh, to, uh, is on fire in his last three games. You know, some of it's been a little fluky, like what we saw last week against the Packers where he had 29 fantasy points with a lot

of it coming in the second half in garbage time. But he's playing well. The numbers are what they are. And the Jets, I know a lot of the production that has come against them from the quarterback spot has been from running quarterbacks. But I think with the way Tua is playing right now, home game, big game for the Dolphins if they still have any chance of staying in the playoffs, they have to win out. And I think the Jets are obviously a mess right now. So I know they did a good job against Gino last week. I think that's more about Gino. I don't think to it will be slowed down to the point where he's not a

top 10 quarterback this week, but I think he's going to be a top five quarterback. So love the setup for two in week 14. Would you start to who is the number one quarterback in fantasy over the last three games? Oh, am I? Yes, he is in six point passing touchdown leagues. And Tua or Baker Mayfield? I have two ahead of Baker, but to me, Tua, Darnold and Baker are almost interchangeable.

Oh, I will. I look forward to, you know, doing what I do, playing devil's advocate on that Baker Mayfield take. I was a little surprised at how, how you guys are on Baker Mayfield. That's coming up in one question for each game. Um, Heath, who do you love this week? Isaac Garendo. Um, like fill in the blank 49ers starting running back. We've seen it for basically as long as Kyle Shanahan has been there. We saw Jordan Mason lead the league in rushing earlier this season.

Gurindo's average 5.9 yards per carry whenever he's got an opportunity, scored a touchdown just last week. I think he is a top 12 running back this week and a top 12 running back rest of season. Oh, you got to Azer stat that one though. Take out the 76 yard run. What's the averaging yards per carry? Like 4.2. But Azer loves guys who have 76 yard runs

I do guys who have never had a 76 yard run of their problem takes Kareem hunt 12 carries to get a 76 to get 76 now even more than that 20 carries get 76 yards. All right to a tongue of I loa Isaac Arendo We love them. Who are we avoiding this week? Jamie? I Would like to avoid DK Metcalf his history against the Cardinals is absolutely abysmal. He's not 100% whether it's the shoulder injury or more recently, as we saw last week, the knee injury. And this Cardinals defense is very good this year. And they've been again, just good against DK Metcalf over the course of really the majority of his career. But in the last five games, he only has one game with a touchdown I believe it's only one game with double digits in PPR one game. Maybe over 10.8 PPR points

So he's not been the the DK Mech aff we know he hasn't scored a touchdown in three straight games His last two games has been miserable. I just don't think he's right So he is a number three receiver still so you're starting him in three receiver leagues But he's not a top 24 receiver for me in this match. Can you guys see this on my phone? There but yeah so you're starting him in three receiver leagues, but he's not a top 24 receiver for me in this matchup. Can you guys see this on my phone? All right, hold on. They are, but yeah. Ah, I don't know. It is a picture, it's a screenshot of DK Metcalfe

with four to five yards of separation against a Cardinals cornerback two weeks ago, and Geno Smith about to throw a 35-ish yard touchdown pass to him and he gets strip sacked just before he releases the ball. And then last week, I mean, I talked about this extensively on Beyond the Boxcore. Last week he had DJ Reed destroyed him on a route on a double move and Geno under threw the ball

and it should have been a 34 yard touchdown instead of a 30 yard catch holding him back but Arizona really did a very good job except for that one play on DK Metcalf which ended up being a fumble recovery. All right so Metcalf you want to avoid I know but not gonna be so easy right is he in your top where is he I'm sorry did you mention that? He's like 34. Oh wow even with six teams on a buy. Wow. Okay. Uh, Heath, who are you avoiding? Uh, the chiefs running backs if I can, um, namely Isaiah Pacheco. Cause it seems like even though Kareem hunt played one more snap

than Pacheco last week, I think we all have Pacheco ranked higher than cream hunt. I'm just not sure that it's one week and then Pacheco becomes. The 18 touch guy. Again, I still think this is going to be a competitive committee. I still think it's very questionable if they have a rush attempt on the one yard line, who that's going to be. And they're facing a Chargers defense that has not given up very many fantasy points to running backs.

Now this is even more difficult, I think, than DK Metcalf, because there are not 24 running backs that I want to start, but I would definitely like to start Gerindo over him. I would start a lot of these guys that we've been like Rico, Dowdell, Tyrone, Tracy, Rashad white, Deandre Swift, like just to even shoot a Hubbard who I don't like this week. I would start all those guys over anybody on the chiefs running backs. Okay. I have to change my one question for each game for that one.

So it was going to be about Isaiah Pacheco very good very good stuff there. My one question for each game has been awesome. Oh yeah what would it be? I'm kidding. That's probably why the show went for an hour and 20 minutes. Because it turned into three questions for each game and then we reviewed the game. Right exactly. Okay so start to us start Garendo sit Metcalf. Heath I'm curious where do you Cause it turned into three questions for each game and then we reviewed the game. Right. Exactly. Okay. So start to a start, Garendo sit Metcalf. Heath, I'm curious. Where do you have DK Metcalf?

Like top 20. Um, I was very encouraged. I think Jacob was tweeting about it too. His first read target share went way back up last week. He had nine targets. He didn't score the fantasy points, but there's been opportunities there. Um, I think the big boom's coming for DK. Okay. And the other guy to sit boom's coming for DK. Okay.

And the other guy to sit was Isaiah Pacheco and Jamie, I'm curious, where do you have Pacheco? He's in the top 24, but I agree with Heath. It's like there's, there's about 17, 18, like really good running backs this week. And then there's about three or four guys that are just a little bit concerning. Uh, so I would start Pacheco over some of the guys Heath mentioned. Like I'd start him over Chuba Hubbard. I just have no interest in Chuba this week.

I don't remember everybody else that he said, but that's one that stood out to me. But yes, it's not encouraging. I do think that we've seen teams have been able to run on the chargers lately. And I wonder how much the Chiefs will commit to that. You know, you can't really look at the first game that these two teams played because so much happened in that game and so much is different from that game. But I wonder if, you know, Pacheco, did he shake the rust off and he's good to go. I did like the fact that he had the long run against the Raiders last week.

So hopefully he's back, you know, being 100%. Yeah, the Chargers keep teams out of the end zone, but they do give up 4.6 yards per carry to running backs. All right. So here's what I want to talk about with Fab. And he's mentioned Isaac, Isaac Arando. I'm sorry. I wish I had had talked about this more. I don't even know if I mentioned it at all on Tuesday show. If you're going to spend a whole bunch of fab on a player, make sure and there's still time. There could be another big player that comes available in the playoffs. Please check the budgets of the other teams in your league.

I get all the fab reports in the FFT Open leagues and obviously in the leagues that we're in. And I see teams spending $75 on Isaac Pechek or on Isaac Arendo when the second most, second biggest budget was like $40. This is, you know, these are not exact numbers but you only need to spend a dollar more than the next highest available budget. We did mention it briefly Tuesday. I thought so. I wish I had hammered at home though because people went out and they got Pacheco but they spent too much and now they have no fab left.

Sorry. What the hell? Those I names are killing you. Yeah. With the O at the end. You know, I'm not good with vowels, but people went out and got Garendo and they spent all their fab and they didn't need to. So if this situation comes up again and you have fab left to go get the guy you want, don't spend it all unless you absolutely have to.

Check the budgets of the rest of your league. Great, great situation in the Scott Fishbowl. There are three teams from my division that advanced, but the other two guys already spent all of their fab. So I'm just making $1 ads as many players as I want. Of course. They can't get any of them. Ha ha, that's great.

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in time for the holidays. Terms and conditions apply. Trey Lockerbie Okay, welcome back. Trevor Lawrence is on IR. So probably done for the season. He could come back for the last game of the season, but Trevor Lawrence probably out for the year. Joe Burrow bought the Batmobile from the Dark Knight or the Dark Knight Rises. He bought the Tumblr. That's pretty cool. Man, have I been there like things something's not going right in your life and you just need to go find the distraction. Like you binge a TV show or just go like do something like Joe Burrows fan football stinks right now. Let's go get the Batmobile.

Yeah, you know what he could have done? Bought a defense. Probably. Do we know how much he paid for it? $2.9 million. That's kind of like less than I expected. That's a pretty cool purchase, I guess. Is he gonna drive it though,

or is it just gonna be like something he shows in the garage? I don't think you can go drive it around town, right? Why not? You see, I mean, there's definitely been people that drive replicas of the old Batmobiles. I was reading the article on cbssports.com about it, and the article, I don't know if it's true or not, said it's not street legal.

That's what I was coming on to say, it's not street legal. But what- Yeah, that's what I was coming on to say. It's not street legal. Okay. It doesn't really seem right for him to have- Does somebody have Joe Burrow in Cincinnati? Like when he died, he here, his hair, he looked more like a Batman villain than anything. And so it kind of feels like Batman's going to show up

at his house and take it back. Yeah. But wouldn't a Batman villain pay $3 million to buy the Batmobile? That's a very on brand. Yes. Drew Locke will start for the giants this week at running back. Alexander Madison was limited. Um, Breeze hall mispractice.

And again, I, I'm a surprise at the rhetoric here. I mean, they're basically not, not saying that Breeze hall is definitely going to play, but it's kind of weird since he played last week and they turned optimistic, but right now I still think you should roster Braylon Allen. And you probably said this earlier in the week and I just missed it, but also in that Raider situation, since Sierra McCormick is on the active roster now, like they made, they had to make the move to either choose not to activate from their practice squad again or to give them an active roster spot. So they've got five running backs on their active roster right now, but he is, they wanted to make sure they kept him. Okay.

I would imagine that we may get a Zameer White to IR situation soon. Yeah. Which I don't know why it hasn't happened yet. I guess they're holding out hope. Um, I actually liked the setup a lot for Amir Abdullah if the current setup stays at it as it is. Oh, okay. And the written, so obviously the 49ers, they claimed Israel.

Are we talking about that game today? Yes. OK. But Patrick Taylor is on the active roster for the 49ers. Bucky Irving missed practice, which is not a surprise, but we'll keep an eye on that. You might want to keep Sean Tucker on your radar. And Roshan Johnson and DeAndre Swift missed practice.

Are we taking this Bears situation seriously with both these guys missing practice? They're at San Francisco this week. Not not yet for Swift. You know Roshan's in the concussion protocol so I would anticipate you know not having him this week at this point. Swift I mean Swift could really get a boost if he's fine and Roshan's not. That's true. I actually like him this week. Travis Homer, would that be the third guy for them?

I believe he's currently the third guy, yes. Okay. All right, wide receiver news. Deontay Johnson suspended for one game because he would not go into the game on Sunday. And I was just curious, and I'm going too long on these news and notes, so I'll go faster after this,

but I feel like they might cut him. They kind of talked, like they didn't commit to keeping him. Should we be picking up Deontay Johnson in case he ends up in a spot where he actually could get some targets? I would think at this point, with what's left in your fantasy leagues,

if you wanna try and get ahead of the five other know, five other teams that are going to be in the playoffs, maybe, but it'd be very off brand for them to do that because I always kind of viewed this as not only did they want to see what they have potentially in the Ante Johnson, but they're so good at trying to get compensatory picks. Like they would give that up if a team signs him because, and he, you could, you know, speak to this more from a dynasty perspective where he's at at this point. But I still think he's going to be somewhat coveted. He's obviously not going to get a mega deal.

He's not going to get, he's not going to be one of the top, you know, free agent wide receivers, but some team will still give him an opportunity to play. And that's, I think part of Baltimore's MO is they love the compensatory picks. Yeah. And man, how much has he heard his stock enough yet to where they don't get a compensatory pick, I think would be the concern. Like his original team didn't want him. And then the Panthers basically just gave him up almost for free. And now the Ravens can't find a place to play him. Um, anybody, I agree with Jamie. It'd be really surprising if they cut him at this point.

All right. That's Deontay Johnson. Romeo Dobbs is out tonight. Lad McConkey was limited, which is a great sign. Uh, the Jaguars signed Josh Reynolds, Cedric Tillman mispractice, which is not a good sign. Hopefully he can get back out there. Calvin Austin.

Uh, did he practice or did he miss? He must've missed practice. I'm sorry. Calvin Austin mis get back out there. Calvin Austin. Oh, I did he practice or did he miss? He must have missed practice. I'm Calvin Austin missed practice. Yes. Okay. But Jalen Coker practiced in full. Devante Smith practiced in full. Keon Coleman was limited or listed as limited. DJ Moore and Keenan Allen missed practice. That's probably just resting and Alan Lazard is practicing for the Jets. He's eligible to come back now. Tight end Dallas Goddard mispractice. We're not expecting him tight end. Josh Oliver for Minnesota. He practiced in full. Does he impact your TJ Hawkinson rankings? Josh Oliver dropped about seven spots just because of Josh Oliver. Well,

he had to pretend like that, what that thing that we saw over two games when TJ Hawkinson was making his return from an ACL was not real. It might be real again. Josh Oliver did impact TJ Hawkinson in his first couple of games back, but it's TJ Hawkinson and it's Josh Oliver. Yeah. Okay. And it's more of a playing time thing because his playing time has gone up without.

Are you trying to allude that Kevin O'Connell is the new Arthur Smith? Dalton Kincade was limited and Jatavian Sanders is trending toward playing. On the offensive line, the Giants could be without both starting offensive tackles and that's already without Andrew Thomas. Left tackle Taylor Decker's out for the Lions tonight. Peter Skoronsky left guard for the Titans, he mispracticed and Saints guard Cesar Ruiz mispracticed with a concussion. So I think that means they could be without two guards in this game, but they'll get their center back, but they won't need them against the Giants. On defense, Soss Gardner mispractice, Jair Alexander, cornerback for the Packers, he's out.

Some kicker news, Evan McPherson for the Bengals, he's on IR, Cade York could replace him. And I talked about John Parker Romo, Jamie's number one kicker on the waiver wire. Well, Will Reichard could be back for the Vikings this week. So keep an eye on that. You might just want to, you know, what's a good move actually is you can pick him up now because he's still IR eligible. So if you have an IR spot,

like I did this in a few weeks because clearly this has been a good kicking team. Um, you can stash him on IR and then depending on who your kicker is or if you need a buy or put like I did this one lead last night where I had fair Baron, you know, so I just dropped fair Baron for record and if I have to pick up somebody else, I'll do it. By the way, I did find it funny. You could tell the people that make because I do a lot of my leagues on Wednesdays, waivers run on Wednesdays.

The people who do their moves on Tuesdays, I saw about five leagues and I probably do 15 of my leagues that run waivers on Wednesday, the people picking up McPherson. Oh yeah. It's a shame. Yeah. Um, go ahead. Okay. Yeah.

Uh, just to finish up the defensive notes, cornerback Darius Slay for the Eagles. He practiced Alex Highsmith edge rusher for the Steelers, a great edge rusher. He's expected back this week. Aziz Alshayar's three game suspension was upheld and the Giants could be without a starting cornerback, a starting, their middle linebacker, Bobby O'Carrakay, and a defensive lineman in addition to Dexter Lorn. I mean, the Giants are not just the worst team in the NFL, but maybe one of the most injured now as well.

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Very, very good points here. Yeah, so Jamie would be Michael Keaton Batman, Heath would be Christian Bale Batman, Adam would be Ben Affleck, and Dave would be Adam West Batman. So after I saw this, and thank you Aaron for contributing to the show, I just went and searched who was the worst Batman.

And the first result that I found said Ben Affleck. I, I would say Val Kilmer probably. Who was the one that had the nipples? Remember there was George Clooney. Oh, Clooney was the worst Batman. Clooney was the worst Batman. Yeah. Like, uh, I think Clooney may have been the nipple costume.

Um, that was like pretty controversial. Well, you were the guy that didn't wear a shirt on the show yesterday. So that is true. Okay. One question for each game. Cleveland at Pittsburgh starter sit, Najee Harris coming off that huge game. I would start him. His worst game in his last seven has been the Browns game

But you got to hope for two things here. You got to hope that what we saw in the passing game Before the Browns game and after the Browns game. He had five targets four catches in week 11 and six targets six catches in week 13, but he did not have that much work in The Browns game and from a passing perspective was that the snow or was that by design and then they've given up a lot of touchdowns. So when you look at it, I think if I have the number correctly, it's nine touchdowns is eight or nine touchdowns when you factor in, take some help.

So the rushing touchdowns have been huge here and they gave the rushing touchdown or the rushing touchdown went to Jalen Warren in that game against Cleveland. So can he score? He's got four touchdowns in the last seven games. Can he be more involved in the passing game? Can he do both? If he does both, you're going to get a game like last week. I kind of view Najee like I view Jamus. They were terrible the last time these two teams played and they were so good the week after that. I'm just viewing them as must starts this week.

All right. Chargers are at the chiefs. I was going to ask you about Pacheco, but how about the Andre Hopkins starter city, Andre Hopkins, 13 PPR points. He took his last two games. It's not a horrific matchup. It just depends. I think what you have, It just depends, I think,

what you have. You know, so I think he's just safe to call a number three receiver. The most number three wide receiver. Yes. So I know Heath would start Metcalf over Hopkins, but Jamie, how about you? I would start Metcalf over Hopkins also, but they're all, if they're not back to back, they're virtually close. Jacksonville at Tennessee. How much faith do you have in the Titans passing game? More than I ever have since Steve McNair. I have Louis, I think at QB 15, the projections real, even with the great

matchup really don't like Calvin really that much. And it's largely because he's not been very good lately. He only has two games all season with a touchdown and he only has one game all season with more than five catches, but it's Jacksonville. It's a revenge game. I'm probably starting Ridley. I'm starting really also. And I do think this is an opportunity if you're stuck to go with Nick West per Pekine, you know, 61 yards or more into his last three, seven touchdown, seven, a game

with a touchdown in seven of his last eight games, a touchdown in seven of his last eight games, eight touchdowns over that span, 10 touchdowns on the season. I mean, like, look, there's six teams on a buy, so he's as good a, you know, streaming buy week option that you could find. And what's the thing that will have us has done? I mentioned seven touchdown passes in his last four games. What hasn't he done? He has no touchdowns from closer than 15 yards in that stretch. He's one of three quarterbacks in the last four games who doesn't have a green zone touchdown pass. Kirk Cousins and Justin Herbert are the other two. And that's just kind of, that's why it's just so difficult to trust is that everything is so deep,

you just all these deep balls. And that's the thing with Calvin Ridley was playing really well, but now he's not connecting on the deep balls. He had a step on a guy could have had like a big game. But Will Levis made a kind of a poor throw. And that's gonna happen when you're having a 20 yard a dot. So that's this like he's throwing touchdowns with Levist, but seven, seven touchdowns his last four games and none of them have been close. Like they've all been 15 yards or longer, including 99. I also think you got to take into account he's, he's not had easy matchups in those

games, you know, so that's the hope is that he's not going to see a pass rush like he's seen the last few weeks. He's going to see a secondary that's bleeding big plays. So this lends itself to what he has been doing well. My biggest concern, and you know, he mentioned his name about something we're talking about soon is Tony Pollard, you know, like Tony Pollard's potential in this game is massive. Yeah. I have a stat on Tony Pollard too. I'll just give it now. Basically the thing we say about Ramandre Stevenson, you know, we like Ramandre Stevenson when it's close, whatever, Tony Pollard is like that, but five times better.

When they get blown out, he struggles. When they win or when it's close, Tony Pollard is just awesome. So you shouldn't ask if you should start Tony Pollard, right? Right Heath, just start Tony Pollard. I absolutely love Tony Pollard this week. All right.

We will probably save some time on that game in a little bit. Jets at Dolphins, is Breece Hall a must start running back? He scored 12.3 or fewer fantasy points in PPR in four of his last five games. Ring the bell. Just ring, like, ask that question yourself and then just ring the bell because

there's not enough good running backs to sit Breeze Hall. Yes, if Breeze Hall plays, he is a must start running back this week. If he has another bad game and we get everybody back from by then maybe he's not a must start running back next week. Oh wait, they're facing Jacksonville next week. He's still going to be a must start running back. Las. Oh wait, they're facing Jacksonville next week. He's still going to be a must start running back. Las Vegas. Is that where is he in terms of biggest busts? There's so many without injuries.

Yeah. I was actually thinking about that. I think off the top of my head, I thought Travis ETN was the biggest non injury bust. Um, but Hall is probably up there. I mean, when you factor in capital Tyreek is up there too. Yeah. I, I would count. You gotta say injury. Right. Yeah. But even when, even when two has been healthy lately, like Tyreek hasn't been that good.

No, he's definitely a bust, but Tyreek's been worse with Tua than Breeze Hall has been all season. Probably. Is that, yeah. You know that for sure or that's just a guess? Well, he was wide receiver 31 with two going into last week and he did catch a pass that bounced off of Jono Smith, which helped. But Breeze Hall is still a top 20 running back, right?

Probably. All right, Las Vegas at Tampa Bay. Why so confident in Baker Mayfield? Why don't you tell us why you're not confident? Well, because Bucky Irving is killing him. In the last three games, the Buccaneers have five running back rushing touchdowns. That's the same amount that they had in their first nine games of the season. Their pass rate has plummeted. Their pass rate inside the five yard line

has plummeted. I used to joke Mike Evans is their goal line back. Bucky Irving and Rashad White are there and Sean Tucker two weeks ago with their goal line back. I can't just say the matchup because the Giants and the Panthers were great matchups and he didn't come through. I know he played well against Giants. It's simply the touchdowns though. They have transformed into a running team. It's small sample. It's only the last three games really, but that is hurting him. So, and he only has one good receiver. This is the thing about like touchdowns.

Um, the fact that they were only scoring passing touchdowns for the month before the last three weeks was not predictive of what was going to happen the next three weeks. So I'm not sure the fact that they're only scoring rushing touchdowns right now means they're only going to score rushing touchdowns moving forward. Well, how about the fact that he's throwing, you know, 31 ish times per game lately is not giving you those 40 plus pass attempt games anymore. Yeah, I don't think he needs 40 attempts against the Raiders.

I've got him projected for 30 to pass attempts in this game. And you guys have him like top seven, right? Baker Mayfield? Top four or five. Yeah. I mean, you could still see a scenario where they put up 40 as a team and everybody eats. Let's go Baker Mayfield. Buffalo's at the Rams.

How are we feeling about Khalil Shakir? Is he still, you know, just like the, gonna get you 12 PPR fancy point guy, or do you think anything different? Is it just who he is every week, Khalil Shakir? I'm throwing out last week. Like still had seven targets in the snow. No, me too.

Yeah. Prior to that, he's been so consistent. Right. You know, so The good games are probably 15 PPR points unless he scores then it's higher The bad games are like 11 or 12, you know, so that's a that's a good number three receiver You know, especially 16 is on a buy. It's hard to get away from him. So he's a lot worried about too much against the Rams He's a lot higher in the projections than he is in my rankings I've tried to pull back on him a little bit

But it's because like you said it Adam, he scores 12 fantasy points every week without a touchdown. He hasn't scored a touchdown since week three. I think one's probably coming, especially since he plays with Josh Allen. So I think he could be a top 15 wide receiver and it shouldn't really surprise anybody. 91 wide receivers have 35 or more targets. Khal Shakir has the lowest a dot among those 91 wide receivers 3.9 yard a dot Last game is Cincinnati at Dallas starter sit Rico Dowdell start I

Mean almost a must start if Logan Wilson is not there They are You know Rankin's also missed last week's game, missed last two games, I think, with an illness. So who knows if he's able to return? Sheldon Rankin is one of their defensive linemen. But if Logan Wilson's out, like that was abysmal. You saw three running backs have success.

I think three guys scored eight or more PPR points against them from the Steelers last week with Quarro Patterson, Jaylen Warren, and Najee Harris. And Najee just did whatever he wanted to in that game. I mean, he was running free, six catches, like Rico Dowell's coming off, great game. You know, first hundred yard game for the Cowboys since week three of 2023. It's, there's a lot to like about where he's at,

especially in what should be a high scoring game. What if Rankin's and Wilson are both back? Then just given the week, he's still a starter, but like he's borderline top 15 for me You know, I love the setup Rico doubt up those guys don't play today's gonna be a big down the engine report for that game Specifically you got Jake Ferguson in the tight end situation to monitor there for the Cowboys obviously CD lamb To see what's happening with him if he's gonna practice This is their first practice day cuz they're games Monday and then for the Bengals

It's a lot of the defensive players if they're in her up. Oh, this is a pretty funny line from Matt Walters. I've got a fever and the only prescription is more Dowdell. That's not bad. That's not bad. Dowdell or Pollard? Pollard. Okay. I saw Dowdell or Garrett Wilson from the chat.

If Logan Wilson is out, it's easily Rico Dowdell for me. If Logan Wilson's in as close, I would probably go Garrett Wilson and PPR. Now it's time for the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs powered by Snapdragon, the fastest, most intelligent Windows PCs ever. In this segment, we'll identify a player whose battery just doesn't seem to run out, similar to Copilot plus PCs. And Heath, we've already talked about Tony Pollard, but why don't you tell me,

as we love him this week against Jacksonville, who you would start Tony Pollard over. Almost everybody. He is a top 12 running back for me. He has been a true workhorse this season, averaging a career high 16 rush attempts per game, also catching 3.1 passes per game. I think people might

look at last week against Washington and see that he only had 12 touches and think, well yeah, TyJ Spears came back, look what happened. TyJ Spears played 14 snaps and touched the ball once. Tony Pollard was still a workhorse last week. They just didn't have a lot of play volume. They didn't have a lot of running back touches. I expect they will this week. They're actually a favorite against Jacksonville, who has been one of the worst teams at giving up fantasy points to essentially every position. Tony Pollard will be a workhorse. He will be a top 12 running back. You should start him. That was the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs. Whether

you're multitasking like never before, working far from power outlets, or sketching your own ideas into existence, you can do it with the new Microsoft Copilot Plus PC powered by Snapdragon. Battery life varies by device and with usage and settings. First game is Cleveland at Pittsburgh.

I said at the top of the show, which team is leading the NFL in yards per game since week eight? Why that would be the, which team? One of these two. Which guess? Steelers. No, it's the Browns. Almost 400 yards per game in their last five games.

However, they're terrible in the red zone and or bad I'll say in the red zone and terrible in goal to go conversion rate so they're only 16th in points per game in that stretch despite number one in yards per game. But you say that though last time these two teams played didn't Nick Chubb have two goal line touchdowns? He did and yet they're still struggling they're 25th in goal to go conversion rate. Well I mean you're just looking at matchup though and he's intriguing because they give they give up a rushing touchdown every week the Steelers do yeah they do it's uh it's seven weeks in a row that running back sport against

is it is it going to be Nick Chubb or is he going to get benched for a quarter again I just wonder you know if it was like the last time when they played the Sunday going into the Thursday night game, right? They were caught, Kevin Savansky said it, he goes, we were limiting Nick Chubb snaps. Did they do something similar knowing that it was a Monday going into the following Sunday? Right. They were limiting his snaps on a Sunday because they were playing on Thursday. Do they limit his snaps again, because it's a short week of, you know, previous week. So yeah, it's a running back of score.

This is insane to think about the Steelers defense. A running back has scored 17.5 or more PPR fantasy points against the Steelers in eight of their last nine games. And that includes Nick Chubb. But who did we talk about? Oh, Pacheco or Chubb? Pacheco, but they're similar. Like there's three guys that I that I view very similar this week if

the situation in Carolina holds like we saw last week. Because if you're not getting passing downs work from Chuba Hubbard against the Eagles, he's basically worthless. So it's Hubbard, it's Pacheco, and it's Chubb. And the only reason to buy into Nick Chubb is because of the situation with the Steelers that they just give him a touchdown. He's nothing if he doesn't score. Throughout the receiving touchdown last week, you can't even count on that by any stretch. He's averaging your favorite stat 3.0 yards, three yards per carry since he's come back from the knee injury. So he's not going to do anything on the ground. But if he's going to get 20 touches, if they're in contention in this game, like he'll have a chance to fall into the end zone again.

Six teams on a buy, it's not awful. Yeah. All right. And Jerome Ford's the number three running back if you need him. Which quarterback do you like better in this game? Jamis. Jamis. Does it bother you at all that the Steelers allow the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks?

Yes, absolutely. Okay, so where's Jamis in your rankings? Heath? I believe he's right around a QB 10 would probably be a top five quarterback. Honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that the Steelers have been so good against quarterbacks, um, I just, I really am hopeful. And Jamie said it like last game, we got all those touches from Nick Chubb and we got the two care goal line carries because it was a close game and neither team could really score.

It wasn't a good weather game, right? This is supposed to be a good weather game. Um, I'm, I'm hopeful that the both of these teams get up and down the field a little bit. It looks like that Denver game. I would start Jamis over Kyler Murray over Patrick Mahomes and over the two quarterbacks tonight. Okay.

Jamie, two quarterbacks tonight or Jameis? I believe I have Love, Jameis, Goff, but I probably would play it safe with Goff, depending on what my team looks like, but I think there's more upside with Jameis. I would start him over Kyler. I would start Mahomes over him. Yeah, you go Mahomes, seven, Love, Winston nine, golf ten, Heath goes Winston eight. I see him at eight, maybe he's ten, but that's right.

Winston eight, Kyler nine, Mahomes ten, golf eleven, love twelve. All right, so we talked about the running backs. How about let's just get David Najoku out of the way. He's a must start. Yep. Yep. Yes. All right. Even though he was bad against them last time too. He was, he was, but he has scored 17.1 or more points in four of his last six games, David Najoku.

All right. How do we feel about the wide receivers for Cleveland Heath with and without Cedric Tillman? I can't say Jerry, Judy. Um, like, and I think that's the other thing as we talk about Jamus going up against the Steelers defense in it, the number one defense against quarterbacks. You know, the number one defense against quarterbacks was last week. Yes, I do.

Denver, Denver Broncos. So like if, if the Patrick Sertan matchup can't shut down Jerry, Judy, I'm just going to start him as a top 12 wide receiver. He might fall to like 13 or 14 if Tillman plays. I'm viewing Elijah Moore as a very good number three without Tillman and a low end number three with Tillman. And I would say Tillman, if he plays is probably in that 26 to 28 area of the rankings.

Yeah, I just wonder, maybe Tillman doesn't play and this doesn't even matter. But I wonder what happens after these two huge games in a row for, for Jerry Judy, because with Winston on the field and Tillman on the field, Tillman had one more target than Jerry Judy from weeks eight through 12. Everything changed once Tillman got hurt. But up into the point Tillman got hurt a couple of weeks ago, Judy had two catches on two targets

with Tillman on the field. And then all of a sudden, bam, he just had a 31% target per route run rate after that. And then last week, obviously. You said week eight through 12, right? Yeah, with a middle of week 12, yeah. Okay, well, I was gonna say week eight through 12, Jerry Judy was wide receiver eight per game

with 17 fantasy points per game. But Tillman was really good too, you know? Like we were, that's the thing. This isn't really a knock on Judy, but I'm just wondering if we're forgetting Tillman a little bit, cause he was super involved when he was there. So anyway, like how does it affect,

if Tillman plays, I know Judy's gonna be the top ranked one, but where would Tillman and Moore be for you guys? I think I answered, so I'll let Jamie. Yeah. Tillman would be third. I would still have Moore second. All right. He said it best yesterday.

We had three career games for Cedric Tillman. Yes. Is that sustainable? Russell? Okay, sorry. Russell Wilson, starter set. He's a low end starter. You know, I think you start to look at from the Jamis group on down, you know, the rankings you just read, he's in that mix. And look, we're sitting here and saying, Jamis, Winston a bad game in the snow.

Well, Russell Wilson outscored him in the snow. Russell Wilson's coming off a 400 yard game. Russell Wilson's facing the better opponent. You know, it's like there's probably more logic to saying Russell Wilson's in a better spot than Jamis Winston, except for the fact that volume is most likely going to favor Jamis. So that's, I think, where you sort of hang your hat on here.

But look, Russ has played very well. He took advantage of a bad defense. Browns are still a little bit beat up defensively. You saw Miles Garrett limping through that game last week. You know, if he doesn't play for whatever reason or has to leave that game, that's even better for this dealer. So I think there's just not as much upside with Russ as there is with with Jamis. But I wouldn't necessarily be making a panic move to drop somebody to pick up someone else and bench Russ. This is a game where you can still get 20 fancy points.

And a question from the chat, Russ or Kyler Murray. Russ. You think of Kyler, right? Yep. Okay, yeah, Russell Wilson, not only did he throw for more yards than, or have a better game than Winston two weeks ago in the snow, he was 21 of 28 for 270 yards in that game. That's really

impressive. Only one touchdown. Are we talking about? I think that like there was one number there that you said that is the problem and it was 28. Yeah, but that was a snow game. Every game except for last week has been 28 to 30 pass attempts. I think he, unless I wrote it down wrong, he threw 36 passes against Baltimore. Is that wrong? Maybe he did. Maybe I was wrong with that. No, I could have, I could be a typo on my end. That would be two of the last three games with 36 or more. I did throw 36 for 205 yards, zero touchdowns and interception.

Yeah. Not a great game for him there. Cleveland's bad again. Cleveland's pass defense is terrible and they give up a ton of big plays. So this could actually be pretty high scoring game. It'd be great. Oh, he talked about Najee Harris earlier. Um, Jaylen Warren could be,

could get you those like 10 ish fantasy points like he usually does start George Pickens. That's it. It's for Pittsburgh wide receivers, I assume. And then starter sit, Pat Friermuth. Anyone want to start Pat Friermuth? Oh really? Um, he's not bad. You know bad, given again the circumstances of the teams on a buy. I like him better than Kyle Pitts this week. I think when you're looking at what he's done the last two games, Targus have been somewhat up. He had four for 59 against the Browns in the first meeting in the snow. Calvin Austin may not play,

and so he's been sort of the middle of the field option for Russell Wilson when he decides to go there. So coming off the game that he just had and knowing that he's got a chance to be a playmaker here, yeah, he's not bad. All right. And the Steelers DST, Dave has them eighth. Jamie and Heath have the Steelers DST top three.

Next up is the Chargers and the Chiefs. So before we do that, next up is a commercial break. We'll be right back on FFT. We're back. Chargers at Chiefs. And your stat of the game, this is another one I tease at the top of the show, the Chiefs have allowed the second most completions

of 20 or more yards, and the most completions of 20 or more air yards over the last three weeks. Some teams have had a bye and the Chiefs haven't, but they are struggling a bit against the pass. Which quarterback do you guys prefer in this game? Mahomes by a good margin right now will be an absolutely significant margin

if Vlad Mikhalky does not play. Yeah, I think I put this in the quarterback preview, but like Justin Herbert's QB 19 for the season, QB 22 for the last month. Um, I don't want to start Justin Herbert. He was hot. He scored a 21.8 or more points in four straight games and then two stinkers in a row against Baltimore and Atlanta. Um, which are fantastic matchups.

Yeah. I think we might have to reevaluate Baltimore. They got to agree. They've been pretty good the last three weeks. And it for Atlanta, what happened against Atlanta? Well, he barely threw he threw eight passes in the second half. He threw 23 passes for the game. But fair enough.

We're not going to start Justin Herbert. I do think that there's two things that you're looking at here. This is now like you like you said you throw out last week's game because the Falcons offense was terrible. The Chiefs offense is obviously playing much better lately so this has the potential to be a little bit more of a back and forth game. They can't run the ball right now. Right. You know that's fairly evident what we saw in just the one game sample size and we know Gus Edwards has been mediocre at best this season. Kamani Vidal may or may not be an answer, but they didn't give him an opportunity to

do so. So it's now on Herbert. And so you go back to that first game, Herbert was not running. So I think that was a byproduct of the foot injury that he had coming into the season. He threw at that point a season high 27 attempts. This could be a 40 attempt game for him. And he's probably gonna have to run, which he has run for, I think it's like what,

29 yards or more in four of his last five or three of his last four, something like that, prior to the Falcons game. So his rushing numbers, I think, will matter here. And if you look at the Chiefs, they've given up some big games lately to some crappy quarterbacks. Gardner-Minshew played well against them.

O'Connell played well against them. Bryce Young played well against them. Bo Nicks got a 20-point game in Kansas City, you know So it's it's a there's a potential here for Justin Herbert to have a big game You know, I agree with Heath like his his overall season has been disappointing I think it's you almost got to break it up into two halves. You know, it could be foot injury, not foot injury. It could be McConkie's development. You know, there's a lot of things you can, you know, sort of put into play new offense coordinator, finally feeling comfortable.

But I do think he is with six teams on a buy in the conversation to still be a starter. Okay. I'll read some questions here. Herbert or Kyler Murray. I think you guys are going to Kyler. No, I would go Herbert. Oh, okay. If McConkie plays, I go Herbert. I don't like to match up for Kyler Murray. I think you guys gonna Kyler. No, I would go Herbert. Oh, okay. I don't like to match up for Kyler at all. Seattle's defense played really well

Herbert or Russell Wilson Again with McConkey Herbert without Russ. Yeah. All right Listen if McConkey doesn't play Sid Herbert, but let's approach this game as if McConkey's going to play you have him ranked And he was limited in practice on Wednesday. I Think you approach it that way, but also like I've, you got to be a little careful tonight with McConkie. Um, I'd start Jayden Reed over him. I'd start Jamis and Williams over him.

Okay. Fair enough. Uh, and then you guys are going to start Baker Mayfield over Herbert. So let's move on. Uh, how about this question, Mooney or McConkie? McConkie. I am pretty sure that I or McConkey? McConkey. I am pretty sure that I have McConkey higher. That's a Sunday night game too, isn't it?

Yeah. So hopefully we get a little bit more, assuming that McConkey is cleared, I'll start McConkey, but they're close enough that if he's got a questionable tag going into that game Sunday night, it'll be Mooney. I'm pretty fired up for this game, actually. This is a great week. I'm excited for some games this week.

Okay, so McConkie is the only wide receiver that we're starting. Really, I mean, he's the only must start wide receiver in this game, right? Yes. Yeah, and we already talked about Hopkins. He's a number three receiver. It's tough to trust Quentin Johnston right now.

Will Disley or Noah Gray? I mean, if Disley had a better game last week, you'd be saying Will Disley or Noah Gray? I mean, if Disley had a better game last week, you'd be saying Will Disley or Travis Kelsey. But yeah, Disley over Gray. I have Disley over Gray, but I would prefer a couple of streamers. And really like Bowers was incredible against the Chiefs last week,

but there's been some pretty bad tight ends against the Chiefs in the second half. Um, yeah, like we want to, we want to Dawson Knox. He had four for 40 on six targets. Um, Jatavion Sanders is actually pretty good. He had 49 yards on 18% of the snaps. But Bauer's first, the chiefs, he had five for 58. Um, all right.

So you guys like my homes. Jamie has my home seventh. Heath has him 10th. He has the most past attempts in football in the last six games. And if he would just stop missing guys wide open in the end zone, like Travis Kelsey in week 10 and Deandre Hopkins last week, he'd be unbelievable right now.

So you guys like Mahomes. And we talked about Pacheco. He's a low end number two starter. You might have to start him, but And we talked about Pacheco. He's a low end number two starter. You might have to start him, but we don't love Pacheco. And Kelsey, yes. And Hopkins maybe. And Xavier Worthy, try to avoid if you can, right? Yes.

Okay. DSTs, you like DSTs in this game? Chiefs over Chargers, but I'd like to avoid both again, unless McHawkees out. Not a great week for DST. I would start the Saints over both. Okay. Not a great week at all, but I see like the Jaguars and the Titans projected kind of high. Would you start those two? They're facing each other. They're our next game, actually.

Would you start the Jags or Titans over the Chiefs? The Chiefs, no. The Chargers, yes. I wouldn't over either one. Okay. Jacksonville is at Tennessee. And okay, I had one, I've basically gone through both of my stats of the game about Will Levis throwing a bunch of long touchdowns and about how good Tony Pollard is when he gets work and when they're in competitive games.

And I'll tell you this, six straight running, I hope Heath didn't mention this, six straight running backs, lead running backs have averaged five yards per carrier better against Jacksonville. Woo. I did not mention't mention this. Six straight running backs, lead running backs, have averaged five yards per carrier better against Jacksonville. Woo! I did not mention that. Yes!

Okay, if you're gonna take a flyer on a quarterback in this game, which one's it gonna be? I mean, Levis by a mile. Yeah, all right. I was just asking. Levis or Herbert? McConkie in, Macaulay out. Lavis either way.

Wow, okay. Yeah, I mean, it's such a good match up here. So who's the best wide receiver in this game? Brian Thomas Jr. Young Calvin Ridley better is better than old Calvin Ridley. Yes. That's Brian Thomas Jr. How do you feel about Travis Etienne and Tank Bigsby? Oh boy. Uh, I would rather start Nick Chubb over both. I would rather start Pacheco over both as much as I dislike Chuba Hubbard this week. I would start him over both.

So I've got Etienne over the Chiefs, over Chubb, over Tank. ETN I think has not scored a touchdown since week two. And I don't remember the last time he's been over 50 total yards. Maybe once. Last week. Once in his last whatever games it's been. It's been a, it was a long time before. The last time he did it was against the

Colts. I don't even know when that was. We're hoping for 50 total yards at this point. Get hopefully three catches at him. Um, Heath, are you expecting more than like 12 fantasy points for Travis Etienne? Oh no, no, I just don't. Like I only, I, I said it's tough. I have 24 running backs projected for more than 10 fantasy points. Travis Etienne's not one of them. It's just, it only takes eight to get into the top 30 at running back this week. Jamie, actually I'm gonna come back to you.

I'm gonna have to look something up here before I re-ask this question. But how do you feel about Parker Washington coming off a huge game, six catches, 103 yards and a touchdown on 12 targets. And he's not really playing in the slot anymore. He's kind of an out wide area yards guy now. I think he's a boom bus number three wide receiver. You don't want to chase one game, but it was the first game without Gabe Davis.

They're coming off their bye week. So we had said this in the waiver wire conversation for three weeks, you know, going into their bye week, coming out of their bye week, this was a guy to pick up and he delivered. And so I can't see a scenario where they have success running the ball. I know the commanders ran all over the Titans last week, the three weeks prior to that, they shut down Joe Mixon, Aaron Jones, and J.K. Dobbins. Those guys are all clearly better than Travis Etienne and they don't have a running quarterback

to threaten them like the commanders did with Jay Daniels. So if they're going to be 40 plus pass attempts here for really three guys, he's got a chance. So I think when you're talking about named wide receivers, he's in the conversation. If you're willing to do this over Dylan Waddle over Debo Samuel over Deandre Hopkins, potentially like that's where Parker Washington is right now, you know, off of one game, just given the role and given the matchup. I would start all those guys over him, but he's, and I agree, but I'm just saying like that's where he's, you know, if you're, if you're considering benching guys, You're considering benching guys that have been struggling or you know, not necessarily the most trustworthy. Did you mention him with nick westbrook akina?

So again, I I would if i'm looking at those two guys i'd play the matchups and i'd go with nick westbrook akina But they're very similar, you know, it's just you don't want to you don't want to expect That many targets again that much production again from a guy that's just never done it before. But if he does do it again, then we're talking about a very favorable schedule moving forward. So he should be rostered.

Okay. Yeah, the reason why I didn't hear everything you said is I was looking at you keep talking about how much you don't like Chuba Hubbard. He didn't have any targets last week. I just want to know if it changes your mind that he ran 30, Chuba Hubbard ran 30 routes last week and Jonathan Brooks ran six.

He was on the field for almost every third down. So maybe it was just kind of a fluky game that he didn't get a target. Yeah, it's also Philadelphia though. That's why I don't like him. That's just the role in the passing game is just a part of it. Okay. All right.

Evan Ingram is a top seven tight end for you guys. He, remember he came back from injury and he had 102 yards at Chicago. Since then he's averaging 37.5 yards per game in his last six games. Uh, are we sure that Evan Ingram should he make the case for Evan Ingram? Um, he's a tight end and a lot of the good ones are not playing this week. And there, there's no bigger gap for a tight end between non PPR, half PPR and full PPR rankings. But Evan Ingram basically catches five passes every week. He's going to give you eight and a half fantasy points as a floor.

And that's without a touchdown. He absolutely has the role to produce one of these stupid 22 point days, um, just out of nowhere because he happens to score a touchdown. Right. So he's, he's pretty much a must start. There's not like John is the only guy I think who was drafted behind him that I would start over him. We just got a good question in the chat from Paul, uh, that I have

struggled with my rankings and it's two guys that are getting opportunities but struggling with them and so yeah so I like Otten slightly better than Ingram. You guys both have them back to back actually Heath has Otten one spot ahead, Jamie has him one spot behind but if it goes to half PPR is it easily Otten over Ingram? For me it is. And to be honest, the tiebreaker is quarterback. You know, one guy's got somebody I trust, one guy's got somebody I don't.

Half PPR, I would go Otten just barely over Ingram. I do think there's a pretty big difference in PPR. Like, Otten's basically seeing five targets per game with Mike Evans. Ingram catches five passes per game. But Otten does have a much better chance of scoring a touchdown. All right. Will Leves is a top 15 quarterback.

Tony Pollard is a must start. Calvin Ridley is a top 24 wide receiver. Nick Westbrook-Akina is more of a number three wide receiver. So would you start Calvin Ridley or a Jets wide receiver? Both Jets. Both Jets. Okay would you start Calvin Ridley or Jawan Jennings? Ridley. So I think this is one where the projections say Jennings and I'm just kind of faking Ridley up there. So just ahead of Jennings. Okay. And Sit-Chig-O-Conquo and the Titans DST is in play,

but they're not, they're not in the top 12. The Jets are at the Dolphins. Tua Tonga Bailoa is our start of the game. Here's a useless stat of the game, start of the week, sorry. Start of the week. This is also the start of the game. Yeah. Well, I guess Devon HM would probably be

the start of the game. Yeah, maybe. Here's a useless stat of the game. Yeah. Well, I guess Devon HM would probably be the start of the game. Yeah, maybe. Here's a useless stat of the game for you. In the last six games since Tua has returned, Jalen Waddle is averaging 11.1 yards per target. Tyreek Hill was averaging 8.8. Jalen Waddle is averaging 14.4 yards per catch. Tyreek Hill was averaging 11.6.

I just really wanted to tell you that. I'm not gonna make any fantasy analysis off of it. Gibbs had a Twitter thread earlier this week. Like it's, it's all bad for Tyree kill when it comes to looking at advanced stats, it's a good matchup, another guy who I'm just ranking much higher than I project, but if you wanted to make a case that Tyree kill is just not Tyree kill anymore, you could use almost any of the advanced stats that you would like to. He doesn't get the same first read target share.

He's not doing the same with targets when he receives them. He had an awful game last week after an awful month, but garbage time and a deflected touchdown saved him. But it's the Jets and I'm starting him too. He's at home. It is so funny that we say this, it's the Jets and I'm starting him too. He's at home. It is so funny that we say this, it's the Jets. They are, they give up the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers.

We're not expecting as of now, soft guard or to play, but also just, they haven't done it against, I've talked about this a lot. They don't do it against good receivers. It just had an easy schedule and they stink. They're just, they just stink. However, they's pretty well against DK last week right and I just don't think DK is right

I think Geno Smith is at 2s level. Geno has played played poorly like I like I said DK could add a better game all right so Tyreek Hill then is where is he in your rankings guys? Borderline top 12 I I mean, there's, you know, maybe you're starting Judy and Jacobi Myers over him. 24th. Wow. And he's 36th in the projections. One thing I like for Hill Heath is that he has five end zone targets, seven red zone targets in his last four games. Are we counting the ball, the touchdown he caught last week in that zone target?

It actually did count. That was not a Tyree kill target. That's fair, but that's still four end zone targets in his last four games. Um, which is good. He needs, he needs to score. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's dolphins at home. It's a defense that we think probably has quit. Um, but I just, he's not, I don't, I'm not sure he's Tyree kill anymore.

Do you have, uh, you had the numbers on Tua in terms of being the best quarterback the last three weeks. Do you have everybody for the last three weeks at the quarterback spot? No, but I could get that, you know, pretty quickly. All right. Give me the total points for quarterbacks last three weeks. All right. Well talk about something else for about 10 seconds.

Uh, the Jets receivers Heath, cause I'm struggling with these guys based on what they have and have not done. It felt like Garrett Wilson could have had a monster game last week because Aaron Rogers just missed him and missed him and missed him. Uh, but he's obviously struggling and Adams is getting targets. A lot of conversation about these guys coming back, you know, what's their motivation, um, in terms of Adams and Rogers, like, how do you feel about the chiefs receivers, the jets receivers? I am ranking as number two wide receivers, Devante

Adams, one spot ahead of Garrett Wilson. I agree. It's been a little fluky that Garrett Wilson's not been, has been, that he has been as bad as he's been. And I would, I'm mostly just starting both of them everywhere. Yeah. I just want to bring up a stat that I brought up yesterday when we talked about Garrett Wilson. The last three

games have been particularly bad for him. The first three games with with Rogers and Adams were fine, but Rogers like all I all we need from Rogers is for him to not be completely terrible. Because in his first nine games of the year, he averaged 234 yards per game. His last three games he's year, he averaged 234 yards per game. His last three games, he's been at 151, 184, and 185. Just, I'm not asking for a lot here, but just get me 215 passing yards or something like that.

These guys get more than half the targets. So we just need him to not be awful. All right, your top quarterbacks over the last three weeks. No, no, I just want the numbers. How many guys have been over 60 fantasy points in those three games? Oh, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 12, 13. So John Smith would be a top 13 quarterback. I believe he would be 11th.

Well, and if you're talking per game, Josh Allen and Bryce Young would both be over 20 per game. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 quarterbacks have scored 21 points, average 21.3 or more fantasy points. Incredible. Yeah. All right, so start John Oosmith. Can I just say this about John Oosmith?

He has had really easy matchups lately. Disclaimer, I'm starting Johnna Smith, not even questioning it. He's had really easy matchups lately. The Jets actually have been pretty good against tight ends. And I said, I looked at Travis Kelsey had three game stretches like this, each of the previous two seasons,

and he slumped immediately afterwards. Just hard to do this. Three straight games with more than 21 fantasy points. So if he gets 12, is that a win or a loss? It's a win. But what did he have the three games before? He had six, 9.6 and 7.5. Yeah.

Since Tyree Kill returned, Jono Smith has a 21.5% target share. That's two a return. Two a return. Yes, which is better than Tyree kill returned. Jono Smith has a 21.5% target share. That's two a return. Two a return. Yes, which is better than Tyree kill. It's like 50% better than Jalen Waddle. He is the number one option in the dolphins passing game. Jono Smith or David Njoku is the question here.

Jono? Jono. Okay. All right. There's only two Ted hands I'd start over him this week. McBride and Bowers. Breeze. Hall was just the only time I didn't have him. Breeze Hall or Tyree Hill. Oh boy. Battle the bus. Um, John Snow is good in that one. Um, I would go with, uh, with Tyree can PPR and be hall for me. Hall's coming off a bad game, but he has 83 or more total yards

in five of the last six games since Devante Adams was acquired. That's pretty good. I mean, it's not amazing, but it's pretty damn good. Okay. And that's it for this game. Actually, Dolphins DST,

do we like them like Dolphins or Chiefs? Dolphins. You don't have any idea. I have the dolphins one spot higher. I think we have two, oh, we have three games left. All right, maybe we'll save one. Man, is it like, you're just, you wanted to make Jamie feel better

about the last couple of Fridays? I knew this was a long show. All right, we've got Las Vegas at Tampa Bay. So you could start in O'Connell if you need to. They're facing a team that gives up the second most points to the quarterbacks, but he's not ranked as a starter. I do think two of the more fascinating quarterbacks

this week are Aiden O'Connell and Cooper Rush because their matchups are so good, but they are so untrustworthy. Yeah, but I want to know why you like Alexander Madison. I'm sorry, why you like Amir Abdullah? So the bucks are tied for the top three in most receptions allowed to running backs. And I did this with the Broncos.

It almost worked out to similar numbers. So I raised it a little bit just because the, so it was 6.8 PPR points with just receiving totals alone for the Broncos. And they had done that eight times, a running back had done that eight times going into that game for Amir Abdullah. He was the ninth guy to do it with just receiving totals alone. The Bucs have allowed 10 running backs on the season to get seven or more PPR points

with just their receiving totals alone. So slight bump up. I was actually 12 with at the 6.8 number. But you're getting that as a floor for a guy that's been so involved in the passing game lately that that's a pretty good place to start. So if Madison and most of Madison's out because they really I don't think it's the mirror. If Madison's out, then then Abdullah stays in his role in the passing game. And I think he could get that floor. As he told you, eight could get you into the top 30, 10 could get you in the top 24.

He's got 10 or more since the guy started getting hurt in two or three games. In my, in the projections and I've ranked him a little lower than this. And after hearing that, I may just move him back up to where he's projected. I've got Amir Abdullah at RB 23 ahead of the Jags, the Chiefs, Chubb, Gus, all those guys. Wow. So he's actually, I have him ranked 24th right now. I have him behind Pacheco just because upside, I think still favors Pacheco, but I have him ahead of Hubbard.

I have him ahead of the Browns guys, had him at the Jaguars guys. I think again, if this stays and they're probably chasing points on the road, then we could see a situation where Amir Abdull is really involved in the past. The question I have, and it's like, it's about trends and it's only been two games, but in the first game without Wyden Madison, Sincere McCormick played 10% of the offensive snaps. In the second game, he played 38% of the offensive snaps. Antonio Pierce has really, has really talked him up and YPC for life, McCormick's

averaging 5.7 yards per carry leads Raiders running backs by a long shot and avoid rate and yards before contact for rush attempt and yards after contact per rush attempt. Um, so it might be that that receiving work for Amir Abdullah could both be the ceiling and the floor. Although we did have 10 rush attempts last week. I will say this, and it depends on how you feel the game's going to go because the run defense is obviously easier this week than it was last week.

The Chiefs just let teams stay in games and they were chasing points at one point in that game because they do what they do. They fall behind as he said a few weeks ago. There will be a point in the game where they are down by a touchdown. So that's just what happens against the Chiefs. If they're behind against the Bucs, I don't think we see as much from McCormick. If you think they're going to be playing with the lead against the Bucs, then we'll see probably a lot of McCormick or a competitive game.

So I think this is a chasing points third, fourth quarter situation. Bucs have been on the road the last couple of weeks. They're back home. This is a, you know, again, must win for them to lock up the division if they're going to out, you know, distance themselves from the Falcons to lock up the division if they're going to out, you know, distance themselves from the Falcons. So I like the Bucs a lot this week. I think we're going to see a lot of Abdul. Starts Kobe Myers for sure. Trey Tucker, don't start him, right? Like he's a poor man's MBS.

Okay, so that's tells you everything. Brock Bowers start, Baker Mayfield you guys have in your top six and Bucky Irving is a must start. So let's talk about the Bucks running backs, Heath with and without Bucky Irving. Where's Rashad White with him without Bucky Irving? With Bucky Irving, he is right behind Amir Abdul-Afwimri, I think RB 24. Without he would be pretty close to a must start running back,

probably closer to RB 15. Sean Tucker with Bucky Irving is only inside of my top 48 running backs because there's six teams on a buy. Without Bucky Irving would probably be in that Nick Chubb. I'd probably start them over Gus Edwards and Nick Chubb because I do think there's a much better chance that Sean Tucker breaks one long run. And you said, I'm sorry, you said top 15 for Rashad White if Bucky Irving were out? That's where I would be. Yes. Both those guys would be in my top 24 for Irving though.

Okay. Mike Evans is a start. Any interest in, did Sterling Shepard crack your top 40? Mike Evans is a start. Any interest in did Sterling Shepherd crack your top 40? No, he cracked the top one 50, you know, back to back games with seven targets. But the best thing he did was celebrate Mike Evans, big touchdown catch last week. He has one spot behind Trey Tucker. We had a question, man, Matt just gets all his questions read, but I think this is a good one. He's like, is this the first year Mike Evans doesn't hit a thousand yards or the next few weeks nuts? Then the number of yards per game he needs actually went down last week. So he needs about 95

yards per game. Baker Mayfield knows that is tracking it and said it's very important to the offense that Mike Evans gets that. So I would expect Mike Evans will have a hundred yards receiving. All right. Kate Otten or a Cowboys tight end. Still Kate Otten, but that's partially due to when the games are being played because the Cowboys play Monday and we may not know right up until game time.

But matchup certainly favors Ferguson. I would go with Ferguson if he's cleared. Schoonmaker if he's ruled out, but Kate Otten if neither. And Mike Evans, sorry, Kate Otten, by the way, the Raiders allow the fourth most fantasy points to tight ends. So now the Panthers are even worse, but it is a good matchup for him too.

And the Bucks DST is close to top 12. They have been horrible this year, but they have faced a pretty tough schedule. This is a good matchup. Buffalo's at the Rams. Just an interesting stat. So I already told you about Khalil Shakir's ADOT, 3.9 yards, lowest among 91 receivers with 35 or more targets.

But Khalil Shakir's target share in his last five games is 28.3%. His target per route run rate is 32.4%. Is that because Keon Coleman, Amari Cooper and Dalton Kincaid have all missed time? I don't know. But he is getting more targets lately. So that's obviously a good thing. He's the Evan Ingram of wide receivers. That's a great way to put it great way to put it. Alright, so this game is easy. Josh Allen to start James Cook. I don't know

how easy this game is. But let's get to the easy things. Josh Allen's easy, he's a start. James Cook is easy, he's a start. If you get a competitive game, you might actually get a lot of carries from James Cook. They've had so few competitive games this year. It's a lot of blowouts. Shakira is the number one receiver.

Where's he ranked for you guys? Number one receiver for Buffalo. Where's he ranked for you guys? 26, 27? Yeah, I think that's, yeah. Projects inside the top 20, ranks 25th. And not gonna start Coleman if he plays her Cooper, right? Would prefer not to.

Coleman will be a boom bust flex. He'll be in the top 40. Thoughts on the Bills tight ends. Oh boy, Kinkade's just tough to trust at this point if he plays, I like that he's limited. So if you want to pick him up just to see what happens over the next couple of weeks and he gets maybe back into the flow of the offense and can start to produce

at a higher level, but I would try to avoid both if you can. It's a great matchup, but still. I would start him over Moot if he's active. Yeah, we have a question. Can Kinkade. I would start firing. All right, he's active. Yeah, we have a question. Can Kayden- I would start fire Moot. All right, so let's go to Matthew Stafford. Because my other stat of the game was that Matthew Stafford

really has not been very good in tough matchups, but since Cup and actually I like this stats. First of all, answer this question, Stafford or Levis from Michael here. Levis. I have Levis one spot higher. All right, I like this stat because in the last six games of 2023, Matthew Stafford was on pace for 4831 yards and 42 touchdowns in his last five games.

I believe since Puka and and cup returned, he's on pace for 4500 yards. So about 330 less 320 less, but also 40 touchdowns. And he is a top 12 quarterback per game in six point per pass in touchdown leagues. He has not been good though in tough matchups this year at that garbage time touchdown against the Eagles to save him there. But the Bills give up the fourth few as fantasy points to the quarterback. So starter sit Matthew Stafford. The Eagles game was a punch in the cool with all right. No, no, no. That was the Minnesota game. I think cup caught a garbage time touchdown very

late. That got you. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. They still count though. No, it wasn't Minnesota. That was a Miami, no, new England. I don't know. Matthew Stafford's a QB too. I would rather start Will Levis. I'd rather start Jamis Winston. Okay. Okay. Start Kyron.

The pluses is that the number you're seeing on the screen, 49 and a half, like the Rams hopefully will do their part. Start Puka, start Cup. Any interest in DemMarcus Robinson? No. He is one spot ahead of Trey Tucker, two spots ahead of Sterling Shepard. Sit the Rams tight ends and the Bills DST is sixth for Jamie, third for Heath, ninth for Dave.

They haven't been very good against good offenses this year unless you count San Francisco last week. But this is a, I hate the STs this week. I got to say. All right. I'll save Cincinnati. What's that? Just go with the team. Would love to go with the Saints. Not an option, unfortunately, in some leagues.

I'm going to save Dallas and Cincinnati for tomorrow's show. I'll be eight minutes till we hit our mark. Yeah, your mark, baby. We already hit my mark five and ten minutes ago. For Jamie and Heath, I'm Adam. For Thomas as well, thank you so much. And we'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. Enjoy the game tonight.

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