Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC); Add MVS? Sell Crowder? (10/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 2, 2020

Not a bad game last night! Well, maybe it was bad but at least it was entertaining. We react to Denver's win and Jamison Crowder's big night. Are we selling Melvin Gordon right now or should you just keep him? Then we'll run through all of the injury news (8:55) and tell you who to drop for Marquez Valdes-Scantling ... Who are some RBs that weren't drafted as starters but should be started in Week 4 (16:35)? Who are some good replacement WRs (21:30)? Are we concerned about WRs with tough matchups (23:05) like Terry McLaurin, Kenny Golladay and D.J. Moore? We've also got Beat the Waiver Wire (26:25) and the Startometer (29:10) ... Start or Sit for CLE-DAL (31:00), NO-DET (39:15), NYG-LAR (46:40), BAL-WAS (53:55), PHI-SF (1:00:00), ARI-CAR (1:04:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Starter set for only six games today. It was going to be seven, but Steelers-Titans moved to a later date. And Denver 37, Jets 29, and beat the waiver wire

and wide receivers with tough matchups if that even exists anymore. And we welcome you, everybody. This is the Friday edition of Fantasy Football. Today we'll have a mailbag for you on Saturday. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg. That was a pretty fun game, actually, last night, huh? You know, I was pleasantly surprised by the NFL.

It's always fun when two terrible defenses play against each other because the offenses usually find a way. So that's what we ended up seeing. There was a lot of bad in that game as well. But sure, fun, entertaining game with two teams going absolutely nowhere. Yeah. Jamie, what's your biggest fantasy takeaway from two teams going absolutely nowhere? Jets and Broncos.

Broncos 37, Jets 29. I would like to cut the Jets and the Broncos from the NFL. Come on. That's my fantasy takeaway. They gave us a better game. That was a terrible game. It was an absolutely terrible, atrocious game of terrible football. Oh, you know, I felt that way about the second half.

The first half was pretty well played. Well played in terms of what? Peewee football? No, what was wrong with the first half? Those quarterbacks were playing well. Come on, Sam Darnold as a rusher. Yeah, it was great. It was great tackling by the Broncos.

The Broncos tackling on that was fantastic. It was excellent. It was so bad. It was so bad. My biggest fantasy takeaway is that you got to pick up Tim Patrick. You think so? Yeah.

I don't think you have to pick up Tim Patrick. Well, I mean, you have two-game sample size with no Cortland Sutton, and Jerry Judy makes two catches a game, and one of them shouldn't have been a catch. KJ Hamler's hurt. Noah Fant's hurt, although he's expected to be fine. Tim Patrick's making plays for them. He's absolutely

the guy you should be adding next week. He's had five, five, four, and seven targets. This was his first game with more than 43 yards. He did have a touchdown in week three against Tampa Bay. Great day for Tim Patrick. His roster had only 1% of leagues. Jeff Smith had a good day, too. Does he play the Jets

next week? He plays the Patriots next week, a slight step up. Oh, okay. Alright. Okay, but you know what? Alright, sorry to steer this, but I really think Jamison Crowder is the talking point here. He was started in only 29% of leagues, understandably. He's only

rostered in 83% of leagues. I have him in one league, sat him. I can live with it. But he was great. His second game of the year, and he's been over 100 yards twice. Last year, he was on pace for, oh, what the hell, Adam?

How did you know? Oh, here we go. 86 catches, 933 yards, and seven touchdowns on 133 targets. That was in the 13 games that Sam Darnold played. So it's 933 yards and 7 catches. But I put it all down. I don't know if you even want me to read this,

but 2016, 17, and 19, he has been so streaky. He goes on these tears for like four games and then he disappears 2018 it didn't happen he only played nine games does it feel different this year does it feel more sustainable this year for Crowder if you can say healthy yes health has obviously always been a concern

for him and then as we saw last year health was a concern for his quarterback who got banged up in that game last night and I'm not sure why they brought him back in. So, you know, we'll see how things go for, you know, the jets moving forward.

Is Adam Gates going to stay the head coach because you know, the, the cries for his firing are only getting louder. We'll see what happens when Rashad Perryman comes back. We'll see what happens when Denzel Mims is healthy, but you know, if you have James and Crowder on your team right now, you should be absolutely happy about that.

So is he a buy, sell, hold? Hold. He's a hold. Yeah. Okay. For sure. James and Crowder on your team right now, you should be absolutely happy about that. So is he a buy, sell, hold? Oh, he's a hold. Yeah. Okay. For sure.

And you can't argue with the target volume. You can't argue with the run game for the jets. Do you really think that's going to improve? Even when Le'Veon comes back, Le'Veon will take targets away from him, but there's just the way that Adam Gase's offenses have worked, have involved the slot receiver. And even in the games he missed,

Braxton Berrios was getting good production. He was fine in the end zone. That was part of it, but he was good. And I think that you're going to continue to see that as long as Darnold's healthy and the rest of the Jets absolutely stink. Okay. And a very disciplined showing

from Greg Williams' defense. That was really good to see. We always say that. Yeah, yeah. That's a staple of Greg Williams' defenses. I guess the only other thing from this game would be maybe Jerry Judy. Dave took the over on Jerry Judy's receiving yards

and he nailed it. Yeah, I took it on Crowder too once I knew that he was active. All right. I had a good day yesterday. Actually, I think Melvin Gordon. Is now the time to sell Melvin Gordon coming off 23K? Yes.

I mean, it's kind of, but listen, it's kind of obvious, right? Because people know Philip Lindsay's coming back probably next week, you'd think. Right. So you shouldn't expect to get like a king's ransom in return like where'd you draft him around three round four maybe right that's probably type of the type of player that you'd be lucky to get in exchange for gordon at this point yeah i i don't know i think we're still at a time where you're down mcafree you're down barkley you're still dealing with injuries across the board we're about to hit bi-weeks i think you get better than that

you know you're looking at a guy that people are still going to look at him and say, that's Melvin Gordon. And you're seeing the production that he's had where he's been basically good in three or four games. And so, you know, I think you could, you could probably still get something that you could swindle somebody in

essence, because of what the name value is and because of what the production is. And, you know, it depends on how closely people are paying attention to it. So, yes, people know Melvin Gordon is going to lose some touches to Philip Lindsay. But, you know, the offseason was, oh, he's the guy. And then it was a shared situation.

And then Lindsay got hurt. So I think you still get a pretty good haul in return for him. Or why not just keep him? I mean, if you're playing a savvy league where everybody's expecting him to lose some touches, maybe he's more valuable. We'll give him away. Maybe he's more valuable than we're giving him credit for. So I guess we should do some comparisons.

I'm sure you'd rather have James Robinson than Melvin Gordon. Yes. Yep. Okay. And obviously this is subject to change. We'll see what happens week four. How about right now? I know it wouldn't work for this week,

but let's say somebody right now says, I'm going to give you after this week, I'm going to give you Joe Mixon for Melvin Gordon. I would probably take Joe Mixon. I think I would too. Okay, I'll give you Terry McLaurin for Melvin Gordon. I would take McLaurin if I need a wide receiver, but that's the type of comparison I think you're looking at.

I think you need more with McLaurin. You need more? A littlein. You need more? A little more. You like the Gordon side better? McLaurin plus something else for Melvin Gordon. All right. Anything else on this game? Any interest in Jeff Smith?

You know, if you can't trade Melvin Gordon for something that you like, why don't you acquire Phillip Lindsay at least? I don't know if locking up the Broncos backfield is going to be a secret component to winning a fantasy championship, but at least you'll be in a position where you've got one of your running back spots covered in case Gordon goes down. In case Lindsay ends up blowing up.

Who knows? Okay. Sorry. Jeff Smith. Fast. No. Okay. Seven catches,

81 yards, and that'll do it. It's kind of contingent on what happens with Perryman and Mims. Yeah. I don't know. I guess there was some excitement about him coming off IR. They started him. He was awesome in DFS.

He was. He was like a last minute, got to get him in your DFS lineup for Thursday. All right, everybody. It is week four. We are in full swing here. So if you've got questions, you can ask us throughout the weekend on Twitter. We are in full swing here. So if you've got questions, you can ask us

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Damian Williams and Danny Woodhead are coming on the show. Whoa. That's pretty awesome. That's awesome. Yes. Dave will be there. Will Brinson will be there. Nando Dufino will be there.

We did our first one a couple weeks ago with the Chargers-Chiefs game, and I didn't really know what to expect, and it was awesome. It was really fun. So basically, if you just want to watch football with us, talk football, and we'll see you on Twitch, 4 p.m. Eastern, for the Lowe's-Chiefs-Patriots home team watch party on Sunday. We got a lot of news, including a big injury, Alan Lazard. But first of all, Devontae Adams practiced.

They've got Atlanta on Monday. We've got a lot of wide receiver updates in that game. But Marcos Valdez-Scantling, I think he was 42% rostered at some point yesterday. Now he's 55. Is he a must roster player MVS? Yep. Yeah. I mean,

look, you're talking for just this week alone. He's facing a miserable defense. And with the way Aaron Rogers is playing right now, he's going to see as many targets as he could potentially handle. If Adams is also out, if Adams returns, he's still going to see a decent amount of targets.

And so, you know, the shots that he targets. And so, you know, the shots that he'll be able to, you know, hopefully come down with, I mean, this could be a two touchdown game for him. It would not surprise me at all, just based on how this, this offense is playing, how Rogers is playing, how he's going to, you know, attack the secondary. So yeah, I mean, he's, he's a guy that can win you a league this week, especially without the Titans and Steelers playing on a surprise situation. So if you have the chance to pick him up, I would absolutely do so. Absolutely.

Who would you rather have? Another name. There's a name we have to do some research on. Darius Shepard. I've been hearing that he might end up getting the number three receiver role. Yeah, they could also elevate Reggie Bedleton off the practice squad. It's another guy that they have invested some time in. We have brought

him up before. Oh, you can't forget that name reggie reggie bagleton uh so would you rather have john brown or mvs rest of season brown still john brown i mean now adam is out forever which we don't want to see, then MVS becomes more interesting. He's going to be an inconsistent player. He doesn't run every route yet. Think of him as a better version of John Ross. But he was getting more targets before

week three. Not that much better, but better. Than Alan Lazard was. I don't know. We will see. but the opportunity is there matchup is there should be a high scoring game trying to see if I got him in my league oh he's not available yet

because I dropped him that's right I dropped him before this news but yeah Alan Lazard is out indefinitely after a core muscle surgery sucks man it's a terrible way to follow up his best game ever

and in that game, Calvin Ridley didn't practice. So what are we expecting right now? We'll know more today when the practice report comes out for the Monday night game. What are we expecting right now for the Falcons receivers? I mean, hopefully Julio's back out there.

He's got the hamstring injury. He was a limited participant in practice, but that's a positive sign considering last week he didn't practice at all. Ridley got to keep an eye on, I'm going to guess he plays, but that's still, you know, something you want to monitor. And then Russell gauge was a limited participant in practice, but he's dealing with a concussion. So he just has to clear the protocol. And if that happens, then he should be okay. So, you know,

you have another week of last week. It was no Michael Thomas, no Devante Adams. Now it could be no Julio Jones, no Devante Adams in the primetime game for the Packers and their opponent. So, you know, you'd like to see everybody out there to see what the best of these two teams could be. Hopefully that's the case. Going to Seattle, Miami here, Chris Carson was limited and Carlos Hyde was also limited in practice, right? They're splitting reps already in practice that they're both limited in practice, right? What's going on there? They're splitting reps already in practice. They're both limited.

No, look, it's a good thing for Carson. He was limited on Wednesday too. So let's see what his designation is by Friday. If he's a full practice on Friday, I think you can assume that he'll play. Are we assuming Michael Thomas is going to play at Detroit? It's looking that way, yeah. Probably not so for Jared Cook.

He has not practiced this week. Odell Beckham, DeAndre Hopkins. What are we thinking right now with Beckham and Hopkins? Beckham, I think, will be okay. You don't like to see midweek additions to the injury report. And just reading some of the things, he met with the media yesterday, and there was some video of him working on practice. I don't know if it was on Wednesday and that's what they showed, but you know, the team tweeted out him

doing some stuff. So I'm going to guess he plays, but just something to keep an eye on. Hopkins is a little troubling Fitzgerald, you know when he met with the media said, we need him out there. We need him. We need him, you know, sort of give a little sense of urgency. Like they want to make sure he's there. So that's one you got to keep an eye on and Christian Kirk has been limited in practice so he could have a big role if Hopkins is not there along with Andy Isabella so if you're looking for guys that could be on the waiver wire to help you obviously Kirk was dropped in a lot of leagues and Isabella is available in a ton as well so those are two guys that would would be needed by Kyler Murray but it'd be terrible not to have DeAndre Hopkins out there

with the way he's been playing so far. It's a matchup to attack, too, because the cornerbacks for Carolina, they looked good last week because Justin Herbert kept turning the ball over. But I don't think that they were very good. A couple of defensive back injuries real quick here. Damon Arnett for the Raiders. He had thumb surgery, could miss six to eight weeks. And LeJarius Sneed, I mentioned this yesterday, that LeJarius Sneed for the Chiefs, rookie

cornerback. He's out with a broken clavicle. He's going to be out for a while. I've been looking at some of the passer ratings allowed by cornerbacks. And he has just based on that stat passer rating allowed when he's the primary defender. He's having a terrific rookie season so far. So that's a tough break for the Chiefs. Tougher than I realized. Raheem Mostert and Jimmy Garoppolo missed practice. So they're probably not going to play, whereas Jerry McKinnon is going to play. George Kittle is going to play. And we're looking

at next week for Debo Samuel, right? It seems that way. I mean, he's working in practice. So, you know, if they feel like he's ready to go, they could have him play. But you can't start him in fantasy, even in a good matchup. And Alshon Jeffrey is almost certainly not going to play this week,

so we're looking at next week for him. They have one receiver practicing right now. Just Ward? That's it. That's it. On their 53-man roster, they have one receiver practicing. Oh, wow.

So, all right, I've got actually a segment coming up about replacement wide receivers. We'll throw Greg Ward in there. Please do. Cam Akers unlikely to play against the Giants. Chris Godwin and Scott Miller both mispractice, and they already have a tough matchup against the Chargers, we think, anyway.

Well, maybe. We'll see. We'll see what they're like without Chris Harris and Melvin Ingram. Henry Ruggs likely out. Kareem Hunt, groin issue not believed to be serious so we're going to preview that game. Terry McLaurin was limited with a thigh issue. We're going to talk about him. Mike Williams

mispractice. Deshaun Jackson mispractice. Well, I guess all the Eagles wide receivers mispractice basically. John Brown did practice so he's back. We previewed that game yesterday. We didn't talk too much about John Brown but it looks like he's going to play. Starters hit John Brown at Vegas. Number two receiver.

Yeah, I mean, you're starting him. More of a number three receiver for me, but I think you look at... Keep an eye on it, though. He just returned to limited. He wasn't full. So calf injuries could be tricky. Calfs are tricky cats.

Leonard Fournette mispractice again. So where would you rank Ronald Jones against the Chargers if Fournette mispractice again. So where would you rank Ronald Jones against the Chargers if Fournette does not play? I know he'd be top 24. He could be closer to like 18. So maybe a middle of the pack number two fantasy running

back. He's going to get a pretty big opportunity against the Chargers defense that hasn't been great against the run. How about like Mike Davis or Ronald Jones if Fournette's out? I think it's still going to be Davis, but Jones and non-PPR. Okay.

And A.J. Brown expected to come back in week five. Good. So, two things here. Who are the best waiver wire running backs this week? And these are players that you could have picked up any time off the waiver wire, not just in this week. So, let's say a guy you drafted, you don't like so much this week. And these are players that you could have picked up any time off the waiver wire, not just in this week. So let's say you got you drafted.

You don't like so much this week. It's really amazing how many running backs are in the discussion now, right? I mean, Miles Gaskin, maybe Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, Malcolm Brown, Daryl Henderson, Devante Freeman, Rex Burkhead,

Adrian Peterson, Josh Kelly, Naeem Hines, James Robinson, Jarek McKinnon, Jeff Wilson. These are just the names I came up with. I'm not sure if I'm missing anyone. You're making the argument for zero RB and why it's... Well, some of these guys think. This is why people do it.

Some of these... Yeah, I guess so. But, like, nobody's starting Malcolm Brown. You can't go in your draft saying, I'm going to get Mike Davis in week three. No, but you know that somebody shakes out. Every week there's a running back or two that come out. Right, but, I mean, you also... Okay, I can go and get them. Yes, but you are also competing with out. Every week there's a running back or two that come out. Right, but I mean, you also...

Okay, I can go and get them. Yes, but you are also competing with 11 other people to get that guy. So it's not a guarantee you're going to find that person. Also true. On that subject, I wonder if it's easier to go 0RB in a fab league where you have a little more control over it. I guess. Yes, but then, you know, you spend big on...

On Benny Snell. On Benny Snell, correct. Good call. So who are the must-starts or the good options in this group? Henderson and James Robinson are at the top of the list. Yeah, and Mike Davis for sure at PPR. I mean, you look at what those guys have shown you. For Davis, a limited sample size.

For Robinson, three games. And for Henderson, two games. I mean, it's hard to overlook what the potential is, not just for this week, but for as long as they're in those roles. And obviously I say that because we hope at some point to get Christian McCaffrey back. But, you know, we'll find out what the Rams are going to do with Cam Akers. He's most likely not going to play. But I mean, all those guys should be starters.

And, you know, for me, I'm starting all three of them over Joe Mixon. How much better are so the guys we mentioned are Henderson, Henderson, James Robinson, and who was the other one? Mike Davis. Mike Davis, right. How much better are they than Jarek McKinnon? We did a Twitch stream last night before the game,

and we had Jacob Gibbs of Sportsline on, and this guy was dropping some serious stats. Jarek McKinnon had like an 80 plus percent snap share in the first half. And then, yeah, he had like 14 carries. By the time he got hurt, five or six carries for Jeff Wilson. So is McKinnon clearly behind those other three, or is he right there going up against the Eagles? He is for me, but not by much.

Like, he's still the number two running back easily in PPR, and probably in non-PPR, too. He had 17 touches before he got hurt. So there's a ton to like about McKinnon. And he looked a little thicker than I remember. And he ran better than Jeff Wilson. I know Wilson had a great game, but McKinnon ran better. Well, Wilson didn't have a great game.

Wilson had a great fantasy game. He's 12 carries for 15 yards. It's a terrible game. But he found the end zone, and then he had the three catches for 54 yards. I'm just curious to see what they're going to do with, if the game's in hand, you know, and, and we know McKinnon got hurt, but was it more of a, okay, you're done. You did your work. Right.

And, and Wilson could still come in. So I think Wilson's still a flex option for you, but yeah, McKinnon's a number two running back. Yes. He's behind those guys. Just because, you know, it's, it's still a situation of those guys I think have in some cases, better matchups. You know, I know Philly's run defense two weeks ago was bad, but they did a good job against the Bengals for what's that, for what that's worth last week. I mean,

most likely they're going to get run on because San Francisco just runs on everybody. Yeah. So McKinnon's in a great spot. You know, if you, if you still have Derek McKinnon, he's, he's got an opportunity to be a top 20 caliber running back in PPR. And, you know, probably the same in non PPR too, if he's getting those touchdown opportunities,

I would start him at a girly. I would start him at a Mark Ingram. Yep. I would start him ahead of any Patriots running back. Here's the thing though. He's missed two seasons, right? And then he gets this work against the Giants

for the first time in forever, and he leaves with an injury. So I'm nervous about how... Okay, but fine. I'm just nervous about... Is that what you're saying? Okay. Yeah, I'm just like... Again, you know...

Are they going to be cautious with him? Well, I think probably so. You know, I mean, I'm sure that, again, if they're playing with a lead, and look, Carson they going to be are they going to be cautious with him? So, well, I think probably so. You know, I mean, I'm sure that, again, if they're playing with a lead and look, Carson Wentz is throwing two picks in every game this year. So that could be a pick six. And if they have, you know, a 17, 20 point lead going into the fourth quarter, which is not out of the realm of possibility, he's probably done. But I think, you know, there's there's two different fantasy managers that are looking at Derek McKinnon. If you have good running back depth and you either drafted him or you picked him up, you don't have to play him. Don't play him.

But there are a lot of people that are clearly desperate and have, you know, very bad running back situations. And you would love to have a player like Derek McKinnon. Okay. And so McKinnon or, um, Miles Gaskin. I like asking better in PPR, but it's close. You know, I think both guys have a good opportunity in that format,

but in non-PPR, I'll take McKinnon. Okay. How about replacement wide receivers? You just lost your Steelers and your Titans, so let's talk about who might be available

on the waiver wire. Valdez Scantling, Renfro, Beasley, not looking quite as good for him. Justin Jefferson, T. Higgins, Nikhil Harry,

maybe Deshaun Jackson if he plays. Anthony Miller, Preston Williams, Scotty Miller. I wrote Preston Miller. Scotty Miller, yeah. Brandon Ayuk, a Jacksonville wide receiver. Greg Ward, who are your three favorites? If all these guys

are available on waivers, who are the three you're looking at just for this week? Preston Williams would be my favorite. And then I would go with MVS and available on waivers? Who are the three you're looking at just for this week? Preston Williams would be my favorite. Wow. And then I would go with MVS and Hunter Renfro. I think I'd take Renfro first because that passing game is

decimated and they're going to have to throw and Buffalo has struggled against receivers who play in the slot and Renfro has actually started playing everywhere. It's not just the slot where he's been, but he is definitely a, I think he tends to be a low A dot type of receiver and Derek Carr is a low A dot type of passer and all the attention is going to be on Darren Waller.

So PPR, I think I'm going to chance it with Renfro over Preston Williams. I just so you know, Jamie, I know it's crazy. Last night I declared Hunter Renfro my start of the week on Twitch. I am all in. I'm going to feel so stupid when Nelson Aguilar

has two touchdowns. He's a deep sleeper, too, because he's going to get an opportunity to play more, and the coaching staff has liked him ever since they got him. Are you considering sitting any of these guys for like a Mike Davis or a Daryl Henderson or one of these running backs you picked up off waivers?

Terry McLaurin against Baltimore, Kenny Galladay against the Saints, DJ Moore against the Cardinals, Keenan Allen at Tampa Bay, Mike Evans in that same game against the Chargers. In theory, on paper, tough cornerback matchups for these guys. McLaurin, Galladay, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Mike Evans. Are we considering sitting any of them? Well, Galladay may get a break if Marshall and Lattimore doesn't play. Yeah, right. Let's assume Lattimore plays. That's a big thing to keep an eye on because that could really sway how Galladay's performance goes.

No, I think, you know, it's kind of case specific depending on what you need, but McLaurin would be the one that I would probably avoid for those guys just based on his matchup against Baltimore. If Lattimore plays, I'd probably start those running backs over Galladay too. I don't really like Moore non-PPR. I still have him ranked too high in PPR, but he'll be a number two receiver because of volume. But I know what the matchup says, but I'm just watching him play. Nervous about him getting 100 yards,

nervous about him scoring. Can't really trust him. Which one was this, Dave? DJ Moore. So I want to give this... Or when I'm alone and no one's around, I call him DJ Moo. Why?

Because I do like control F to find players sometimes in my rankings, and that's what I type in. What do you think I type in to find Chase Claypool? Pool? Noel? Pool? Noel. Pool?

And then it takes you directly to the Giants game? I think of Winnie. No, not the Giants. Barshawn Lattimore. They're a different word. A word I can't say. Barshawn Lattimore is allowing a 109.7 passer rating this year as a primary defender.

Okay, so that's definitely not good, but I'm interested in how many targets he's seen, what the catch rate is, and what the yards after catch he's allowed is. Okay, let's take a look. I can find it if you want to keep hosting. I don't know if I have yards after catch. He has seen...

I can find it. I've got it. 10 targets as the primary defender. Or no, 15. 15 targets as the primary defender. The catch rate, I believe, is 66%. And I don't think I have the yards after catch. I'll find the yak for you. But that's not terrible.

It's interesting. Like a two-thirds catch rate is not terrible for a corner, in my opinion. Yeah, and we know he locked down Mike Evans in week one. So, look, I've been looking at these stats. Yeah, but was Evans healthy? Remember that Evans went into that game

with a hamstring? Are you making the case for or against Marshall Lattimore, Dave? I don't know where you're at here. I'm just, I'm laying out facts, baby. Yeah, so Jalen Ramsey, Tredavious White, Chris Harris, Marshawn Lattimore, they've all been really bad in passer rating against. I don't know what to make of it.

It's only three games. That's what I make of it. And by the way, C.J. Henderson, we've talked a lot about him. He's been pretty solid, like 77% 77 passer rating, something like that. Whereas all these guys I just mentioned are about 100 or a little higher. The yak on Marshawn Lattimore looks like he had a really bad play in week two

because he allowed 44 yards after catch against the Raiders. But in the other games, it's been 10 or fewer yards after catch. That's always good. When you're not allowing a lot of yards after catch, that's part of what your job is as a corner, is try and defend the pass. And if you can't defend the pass, make sure the receiver doesn't get past you.

All right, it's almost time to get to the games. First, we got to beat the waiver wire. Not the best beat the waiver wire week. If you're desperate for a quarterback, we got some buys coming up. Jimmy Garoppolo gets Miami if he's back. Deebo Samuel's only 76% rostered. I wouldn't say only.

He's 76% rostered. I would pick him up if I saw him in my leagues. Dalton Schultz, I'm guessing because his roster percentage hasn't risen, you probably don't need Dalton Schultz, but he's 61% rostered. He gets the Giants next week. Alshon Jeffrey, 22%. His next four games are Pittsburgh, Baltimore the Giants next week. Alshon Jeffrey, 22%. His next four games

are Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Giants, Dallas. That's probably two bad matchups and two good ones, but Pittsburgh's actually 26th against wide receiver, so on paper, it's three good matchups for Jeffrey out of four. Not sure I buy it, but DST's Dallas against

the Giants, if you're willing to take that risk, and Arizona at the Jets. And I would be willing to take that risk, so maybe take a look at Arizona. Big risk you're taking there. And I don't think Brian Hill is somebody that you can add off the waiver wire with plans on starting anytime soon, but I've been stashing him. And double check to see if Damian Harris is out there. I don't know how long I'd be okay stashing Damian Harris. The problem is when you have to hold him if you don't have a higher spot.

Sure, sure, sure. And like bye weeks are coming, you're going to need to replace. You might have to eventually cut Damian Harris. And there's just so many mouths to feed in that run game in New England. And I guess we'll see what Cordero Patterson's role is. Cordero Patterson. Yeah, that's a decent one. He might be worth stashing over the weekend.

So you'll pick him up on Saturday, see what happens on Sunday. If he sucks, if he doesn't get a lot of work, Montgomery dominates. You just cut him on Monday, and you've got an open spot for waivers. I think you also, again, I'll say, if you start seeing these clear-cut backup guys in good spots that are available go pick them up now just in case somebody goes down so see if tony pollard's out there see if alexander madison's out there see if jordan wilkins is out there see if some of these guys that if they were to get a good opportunity could be in great spots. Yeah, Brian Hill.

Yeah, Brian Hill would be one, sure. But I think you're talking about these high-level situations. You know, Darrell Williams, especially after the Darwin Thompson fumble. So, Benny Snell, when the Steelers are playing. So, those type of guys. Like, you don't have to get them now because they're not playing this week. That's true. And if you have Stafford or Rodgers,

you could also take a look at Kirk Cousins. I should have included him. He gets the Seahawks in week five. And Rodgers and Stafford run by. All right, start-o-meter real quick here. Two games, last two games, we'll get to our Baltimore, Washington, and San Francisco, Philadelphia,

which covered some of that. But Mark Ingram at Washington, start-o-meter, zero to ten. Six. Six in non-PPR, five in PPR. that, but Mark Ingram at Washington start-o-meter 0-10. 6. 6 in non-PPR, 5 in PPR. J.K. Dobbins. 4.5. Antonio Gibson against Baltimore.

5. 6 in both. Would you start Ingram or Gibson? I would start Ingram in non PPR, Gibson and PPR. Ingram in both for me. Terry McLaurin against Baltimore. Six in the third.

Yeah, six is fine. Logan Thomas against Baltimore. Baltimore actually really bad against tight end so far. Three. 2.14. Four in PPR, three in non-PPR. Not quite pie. Greg Ward at San Francisco.

Six. $11 billion. No, I'm just kidding. I think six is good. Brandon Ayuk. Same, six. Four. Dave, you have a tie there. Pick one, Ward or Ayuk. Same, six. Four. Okay, so Dave, you have a tie there. Pick one, Ward or Ayuk.

Jamie's going Ward. I will probably lean toward Ward because I think he'll get more targets. And that kind of rhymed. That was nice. Lean toward Ward. That didn't kind of rhyme. It rhymed.

You can't spell toward without Ward. Like, no, frog and dog do not rhyme. Oh, the way I just said it, they did rhyme. I said it wrong. Frog, dog. Frog, dog. You say frog like it's got an A in there. Yeah.

Like it's the first syllable only of Fraggle Rock. You say frog. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Cleveland of Dallas. I just tried to think of a word that was F-R-A-G. Cleveland at Dallas. Dallas, five-point favorites. Totals 56 in this game.

Stat of the game, number one. Dalton Schultz has four red zone targets. Dallas wide receivers have combined for four red zone targets. So far, Dalton Schultz has a pretty good role there. Stat of the game number two, the Cowboys allow the second most fantasy points to wide receivers, and they are not good against the slot.

Again, they were terrible against the slot last year. So, Jamie, this game is so... This is the game flow game, right? I mean, what's going to happen here? Because Baker Mayfield, he threw 39 passes in a week one loss, a blowout loss at Baltimore. He threw 23 passes in the other two games, wins against Cincinnati and Washington.

So, you know, that matters for Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb got 10 carries in week one, and he has three targets all season. It matters for Kareem Hunt, who had four catches in week one when they were losing. Kareem Hunt may not play, though. Yeah. The injury is supposedly not serious,

so let's approach it right now as if he is going to play, and we'll do contingency plans. But the game script is so interesting here, Jamie, and how you're going to approach this game. I mean, obviously the Browns are going to try and establish the run, and hopefully for their sake and for fantasy managers starting Nick Chubb, they're going to be successful doing it. If they don't do it and they're chasing points, then that'sb will still be okay because you saw what he was able to do against the Ravens and they,

they didn't exactly run away from the run, no pun intended. And hopefully he's more involved in the passing game. So he's still top 10, non PPR top 15 at worst in PPR. And we'll see if, you know, Kareem hunt has a bigger role in the passing game because that was his most

involvement in the passing game was week one when he had the four catches. So I think they're still number two running backs. But yes, if you just look at it as the Browns offense, which has a banged up Denzel Ward, I think he's going to play. But, you know, keep an eye on that. If the Cowboys offense does what the Cowboys offense does, which is they're, you know, throwing all over the Browns,

which I think they will, and Cleveland's chasing points, then this is where Beckham comes into play. And like we talked about yesterday with Heath, in terms of where he was ranked, that if you expect Beckham to be in the eight plus target range, the Cowboys have had five receivers go for eight plus targets against them. And those receivers have all scored very well. The worst was, I believe, somebody only, oh, it was Russell Gage. He had, I think, 12 PPR points. So that's the low of the five who have hit that mark. So I think you're hoping for eight plus targets. If he gets that, I think he's going to have a big game. So I think

all the Browns main guys are in play aside from Jarvis Landry, more so because of what you heard this week that he's still not 100%. So I think at best, he's a number three receiver. I'm sorry. I don't want to be that guy. But I have Gage, 46 catches, 46 yards, and a touchdown. So that's 16 PPR points. Okay, maybe I'm thinking something different.

Julio Jones had a bad game, but he only had four targets. Yeah, I mean... He might have been hurt in that game. And Russell Gage almost threw a touchdown to Julio Jones. I might be wrong. Maybe I have the wrong stat. I don't know. No, you're right. The five guys against them have averaged 16 PPR points again with the eight targets.

With eight or more targets. I'm thinking of two different teams. Don't you think the Browns know that they can't stay in their turtle shell with the run game and they know they're going to have to put up points? I they'll be a little more aggressive throwing i'm kind of thinking that a brown stack could be a winner in dfs this week i don't disagree because you know beckham people are gonna you know look at it and say banged up hasn't been uh baker for sure people are going to shy away from i don't think that they're going to differ from what their philosophy is i think

they're going to be forced to differ what from what their philosophy is. I think they're going to be forced to differ from what their philosophy is because, you know, if you can run on teams, you're going to always try and run on teams. I mean, you know, you still see it with the Vikings and Mike Zimmer. They're still trying to run on teams. That's just their identity. And so I think that's what the Browns want to be. It's helped them win two games.

You know, keep Baker Mayfield in that 25 to fewer pass attempts and manage what he does, and you're successful. And so I don't think they're going to get away from their identity. So I think if they get forced to get away from their identity, then that's where things come into play. So that's what you hope because then you get Dallas playing at Dallas's typical level and then you get Cleveland still get like the ideal situation for me if I'm looking at this game.

I want to see Nick Chubb go for 60 and a touchdown in the first half. And then I want to see Dallas's offense come storming back and, and be, you know, ahead by a touchdown or more and then Cleveland forced throw. Okay. So I kind of like Landry, by the way.

All right. Let's, let's rank the wide receivers in this game is they are really, really interesting. I mean, I'm assuming Cooper is going to be one, right. And,

and then what? Then Beckham. Mm. Mm. Then Gallup. Then Lamb. And then Landry. Okay, why did you go Gallup?

Why did you go Gallup three? I just think, you know, the big play is always going to be there for him. And so, you know, there's going to be, I'll say this again. I've been saying it for three weeks. There's going to be with the Falcons and the Cowboys,

when you have four quality pass catchers with three receivers and a tight end, there's going to be a guy that gets left out on a week to week basis. Now we don't expect Cedric Wilson to be a factor every week. That was unfortunate for, you know, the, the Cowboys guys last week aside from Gallup and Cooper. And so it's just impossible for all four guys to have great games. So one of them will be left out. Now lamb's only time in Dallas. And so it's just impossible for all four guys to have great games. So one of them will be left out.

Now, Lamb's only time in Dallas, he had a 100-yard game. It's his best game of the season. This could be the first week that he scores. Wouldn't shock me. But I think you just look at it as Gallup should have had two of three good games if he got the 47-yard reception that he should have had in week one against the Rams. And he's the different guy of the trio. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in that seven, eight target range.

They're going to be throwing. That's what they do. You know, not that they're getting away from Ezekiel Elliott, but they just, they end up passing a lot. They leave the NFL in past times right now. Yeah. And they throw it as Zeke plenty as well. And I think they look,

take one look at this Brown secondary and say, we've got to attack it, but they have to protect Dak first. And I, the strength of this Browns defense is that front four. So as long as they can mitigate that, it's bombs away, and Gallup gets a ton of air yards. He's their best deep threat.

That's why he's ahead of Lamb for me this week. Okay, let's just hope. I mean, he's got five targets, five targets, and nine targets. Let's hope it's closer to nine. All right, so if we're going Cooper, Beckham, Gallup, Lamb, Landry, where does Kareem Hunt rank in there?

I think he's behind Gallup. Yeah. Okay. Dalton Schultz, start or sit? Start. Start him over Waller. Start him over Waller. Okay. Ertz or Schultz, start or sit? Start. Start him over Waller. Start him over Waller. Okay.

Ertz or Schultz? Ertz. Okay. How about Baker Mayfield or Tom Brady? Ertz. I'm not there with Brady yet, but it's close. I think I have Brady ahead of Baker, and it's close. Okay.

So I think it's pretty close. I don't think Baker is a bad play this week. If you lost Roethlisberger, pivoting to him makes tons of sense. Kareem Hunt or Miles Gaskin? I'm sorry, Adam. It just hit me. I'd rather have Fitzpatrick,

who's still out there on the waiver wire in a bunch of leagues. So if I'm debating between Fitzpatrick and Mayfield, I'll take Fitzpatrick. If Fitzpatrick is gone and Mayfield is there, okay, Baker, you're up. Now, what was the question you just asked? I'll still start Hunt, but if he's limited in practice again,

I'll take Gaskin and PPR. Still hunting on PPR. Kareem. Okay. The Kareem will rise. Anything else in this game? Start Dak, start Zeke. That's pretty much it.

Sit Hooper. Sit the DSTs. Hopefully we get a lot of points in this one. Hooper might score, but there's no way you should have any semblance of confidence. Okay, let's go to New Orleans at Detroit. So, yeah, my stat of the game

was that passer rating stat on Lattimore, which I don't know what to make of. But my other stat in that regard is Kenny Galladay, if he's on Lattimore, which I don't know what to make of. But my other stat in that regard is Kenny Galladay. If he's facing Lattimore and you're nervous, he had a lot of tough matchups last year. He scored against Arizona. He had a huge game against the Chargers,

117 yards. He scored twice against the Chiefs, who don't give up a lot of points to the wide receivers. He had 121 yards at Green Bay, although I feel like there was a flea flicker early in that game or something like that. He had a huge play on. He scored at Chicago. He was bad at Dallas or against Dallas.

158 yards and a touchdown against Chicago in the second meeting. 72 yards against Green Bay. So Galladay was more or less matchup proof. Had a couple bad games and tough matchups. But just wanted to give you a little more confidence in Kenny Galladay. Look, he scored against the Cardinals last week

for what that's worth. Although I think Lattimore is greater than Peterson at this point. Let's talk about, I'll start with the Lions, may as well. Which quarterback do you like better, I guess, would be the first question. Stafford or Brees?

If Lattimore is out, I'll take Stafford. But that's also contingent on Michael Thomas playing. I have Brees higher. Right playing. I have Breeze higher. Right now, I have Breeze higher, too. So, here's my question. Generally speaking, sorry, I guess I'm going back to the Saints instead of the Lions. Drew Breeze, we like them coming into the year. We know the Lions have a bad secondary, even if they get Desmond Trufant back.

If Michael Thomas plays, why wouldn't this be a fire up Drew Brees big day kind of start? Well, I don't think Michael Thomas is 100% and you're getting reports that it's not necessarily based on how much he's practicing. It's how much they fear a risk of re-injury, which we know can happen with a high ankle sprain. So

I don't know if you're going to get 100% of Michael Thomas. So they also may be down Jared Cook. So limited weapons for what Breeze is. And I don't think you can count on Alvin Kamara going for 140 yards or whatever he did, 138 yards receiving like he did last week. So what we see from Breeze typically when they're on the road is they run, and you can run on Detroit.

So Breeze is a fine start. I don't think he's a great start. Okay. There's a lot of quarterbacks that I like better than Breeze. I play Fitzpatrick over Breeze. Yep. I play Burrow over Breeze. Yep.

I think he can get you somewhere between 20 and 25. That's just not. That's with Michael Thomas. If he doesn't have Michael Thomas, I would take the under. I think he can still get there without Michael Thomas, but it's closer to like 20 to 22. Because I don't buy that the Lions defense is good. I think Kyler Murray gave the game away last week.

He had three interceptions. I don't think the Lions... Also, what? I mean, what? First time Okuda played? It was. Okuda had one of the interceptions. And he's not bad,

but he's played one game. He might be their best defensive player. So if we're starting Michael Thomas, if he plays, if we're starting Kenny Galladay, are there any other and especially if Jared Cook's out, I mean, are there any other wide receivers in this game that you're looking at? No, I mean, Marvin Jones is always going to be in the number three receiver conversation,

but not exciting. Okay. Start Camara. Who would you rather play, Latavius Murray or Adrian Peterson? Peterson. I'll take Latavius. Really? Well, I got to tell you,

you guys really have no respect for Adrian Peterson. I gave this stat a couple weeks ago, and the problem is when I gave this stat a couple weeks ago, he got like seven carries that Sunday, but he had nine games last year adrian peterson with 13 or more carries he had 76 or more or more yards in seven of those nine games this year he's had two games with 13 more carries and he had 114 total yards and 85 total yards and the one time he didn't get the work week two, they got blown out.

You know, they got blown out by Green Bay. So maybe it was partially the score and partially they were getting carry on. They were playing with the lead in the first half, though. Yeah, I think he just didn't have a lot of work in the second. That was the carry on. Johnson scored the touchdown early. I mean, you're going to get empty carries from him.

He's not scoring touchdowns, you know, which still may happen, but he just hasn't scored yet. He's not working in the passing game since week one. I think what we're going to get back to is, you know, when they're chasing points, it's DeAndre Swift, because he's better than both him and Kerryon Johnson in the passing game. So I just feel like they're going to be chasing points.

We haven't seen yet. And, you know, this has kind of been the pattern for him. Last year may have been a little different, but when he has a heavy workload, he comes back next week and he's tired he's an old running back i mean you know he doesn't usually follow it up with back-to-back games i don't know that's i don't think he left minnesota over the over the course of his time post vikings that was the mo i don't i think i would dispute that because i just looked at you're gonna find evidence to dispute it that's fine but there's probably something related to that.

And I don't know if the Lions necessarily subscribe to it. I don't know if they necessarily can. But the truth is... But they have other guys. It's not like Adrian Peterson has to go out there and get 22 carries. And it's hard to trust a running back whose ceiling is below double-digit fantasy points.

I mean, he's had one game this year where he's done it. He's better in non-PPR than PPR. He's okay in half PPR. But, you know, you're asking for him to catch two or three passes, and that's kind of the max. And if he doesn't get you 70 or 80 rushing yards and doesn't score, then what are you asking from him? Well, I'll tell you, he's been in week one,

Adrian Peterson was RB18 in both formats. In week three, he was RB24 in non-PPR, RB29 in full PPR. With nine fantasy points. Yeah, and I just... In a game that they won. How many games do you expect them to win? Do you expect them to win this week? I don't know. No, I don't. There's something about the line that tells me that Vegas thinks it's going to be close.

The Saints are 1-2, and the Lions, if DeAndre Swift made that catch, are 2-1. I think the Saints are a much better team. But they haven't played that well so far. Look, I just think that we give no respect to Adrian Peterson. And he could get you 75, 80 yards in a respectable game as a flex. But you know what?

Look, that's more of a generally speaking thing. In this matchup, there's a good chance they're trailing. It's bad for him. The Saints have a great run defense. It's bad for Peterson. He's probably a terrible start this week. This is more of a general Adrian Peterson discussion. No, I think you're right.

I think he deserves more credit for the production that he's given you the last several years. I just think that, again, if he's not finding the end zone and he's not involved in the passing game, you're asking seven, eight points, and that's kind of where his ceiling is. Last question in this game, starter sit TJ Hawkinson. I think he's a good start.

I mean, you've seen the Saints allow the most fantasy production to tight ends on the year. So if he gets his six or seven targets, which I hope he'll do, hope he'll get, he's in that low-end starting conversation. I would take my chances with him over Darren Waller this week. I would too. And the types of routes that tight ends have been crushing the Saints on are crossing routes.

And not quite half of the catches that Hawkinson's made this year have come on those types of crossing routes. Hopefully the Lions are paying attention and that they find ways to scheme up Hawkinson's made this year have come on those types of crossing routes. Hopefully the Lions are paying attention and that they find ways to scheme up Hawkinson this week. So I'm buying in. Okay. Schultz or Hawkinson? I'll take Schultz just based on the matchup

and the target opportunity. Okay, so it's probably close for you guys. Maybe we should, like, you have Fitzpatrick over and Burrow over both of these quarterbacks? Yes. Okay, let's go to our next game. I'll ask you, Matthew Stafford or Jared Goff? I like Goff a lot this week, so I would say Goff. I'm nervous that Goff won't have to do much against the Giants.

But I don't know why you say that, though, because he hasn't had to do much the last two weeks. Are you kidding me? Last week, he had to do it. Last week, he did, but he didn't have to against Philadelphia, and he still was good. Well, actually, last week... Okay, so... How many throws for... Goff is averaging 30 throws per game.

He threw 32 passes last week in a comeback effort, but he had a rushing touchdown as well. So this is actually my stat of the game. Last year, Jared Goff threw 39 passes per game. He's throwing 30 passes per game. It's killing Higby. They have once again changed their identity. They are like a ground and pound

team. Yeah, they can run the ball. They run a ton. They are big favorites in this game. I am also a little nervous about Jared Goff, but you don't... The Giantsants defense sucks so bad. You don't have to throw that much to have a good game.

Just look at Ben Roethlisberger in week one. I've got him 14th. I don't have him in my top 12. I suppose if Michael Thomas ends up not playing, starting golf over Breeze probably makes sense because there's probably a little more upside with Goff. Okay. It's not even a little. If the Giants show up and actually give the Rams a game, then there's a ton of upside with golf okay it's not even a little like if the giants show up and

actually give the rams a game then there's a ton of upside with golf but i'm believing in daryl henderson all the way we know cam makers isn't gonna play that's what it seems like malcolm brown has already it's already seems like he's starting to get marginalized a little bit and henderson is is running so much better than he did last year i tweeted something about this great he last year he had i don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head but like 35 carries last year five of the carries went for 10 plus yards he's had 39 carries this year it might be flipped and he's got more carries for 10 plus yards already this year than he had last year on the same amount of carries and fewer carries of two or fewer yards last year so his vision's getting better the the offensive

line isn't as bad as we thought it would be he's playing fantastic and he's an asset in the passing game too i heard somewhere that he was the start of the week i think that's right uh let's compare him to some wide receivers would you start daryl henderson Odell Beckham? I'm going to say Henderson over all these guys. Over Odell Beckham? Yes. Over Hunter Renfro? I'm starting Henderson over Miles Sanders. Whose start of the week do you like better, Jamie's or mine, of Hunter Renfro? Well, listen, you never

go against the fro. I'm going to have to go with Hunter Renfro. It's so close. No, I'm kidding. Even I would go with Daryl Henderson. Good. Start Dary I'm kidding. Yes, even I would go with Daryl Henderson. Okay, good. So start Daryl Henderson. Even Hunter Renfro would go with Daryl Henderson.

Probably. All right, let's talk. We'll stick with the Rams here since we're starting Henderson. Any interest in Malcolm Brown? He's in the same kind of range as AP and non-PPR. Oh, man. You know, I have... I have... I have...

What is that? It's the crickets. That sounds like somebody streaking that window washing thing. It's a preloaded sound effect on my mixer. It says crickets, but it's not a very good crickets, right? That's not a cricket. That's what it says. It says crickets. That's rubber against a windshield. I didn't put it out. All right. What do we think about Cooper Cup

and Robert Woods this week? Mustards. Yeah. I hope so. But again, I'm concerned that Cup's going to go back to his six or fewer targets. If he gets four targets against his defense, he's going to score.

That's probably true. All right. I don't see how you sit Cooper Cup. I've got them as number two receivers. Tyler Higbee or Evan Ingram, do you like either tight end in this game? I mean, Higbee's a touchdown or bust guy at this point, so it wouldn't surprise me if he scores

against this terrible defense, especially if Jabril Preppers is out. All right. Giants. I don't love them. I'd go Schultz. I'd go Hawkinson. I'd go Hurst. I'd go Schultz. I'd go Hawkinson. I'd go Hurst.

I'd go Gronk. Oh, no. I'd go Gronk. So wait, what about Ingram? I'd go Gronk. No, Ingram is too tough to trust. He's better in PPR than non-PPR. I can't imagine anyone starting Devante Freeman.

Maybe like on a dare or in a bizarro fantasy league. PPR than non-PPR. I can't imagine anyone starting Devante Freeman. Maybe on a dare or in a bizarro fantasy league. He's worth rostering. He's not worth starting unless you're just stuck and you couldn't bring yourself to start Frank Gore. Once again, the Rams are not good

against the run. 4.8 yards per carry to running backs. It's a consistent thing for them. Darius Slayton and... Well, at least it was last year. I think it's been three years. Darius Slayton and Golden Tate. I wish Heath were on the show today. Heath has Darius Slayton

top 21 and Golden Tate 23rd in PPR, 31st in non-PPR. That is interesting. Okay, so... Yeah, what do you guys think? You are not quite as high on the Giants passing game

no Tate at least he's getting you five catches per game that helps set up a nice floor but he's not even averaging 10 yards per catch which is troubling and I would think that eventually his target volume will rise if they can't run the football

but you just laid out how the Rams are against the run. What do you think? I think they can't do anything in this game. Well, I mean, it's the Giants. You know the way the NFL works where a team looks so bad and then you find out they're a little better. I think the Giants maybe are a little better than what they looked like last week.

But I really do think Slayton's going to see a lot of Ramsey because Ramsey's always on the right side, right? And Slayton's always on that side too, pretty much. Well, he usually don't send him into the slot, so it makes more sense for him to, you know, shadow Slayton. He's not going to shadow him. I just think that they're good. Well, who else do they have?

I just think Ramsey's going to stay on his side, and I think Slayton's typically there. That's all I'm saying. I don't think he's going to follow him, but I thinksey's going to stay on his side, and I think Slayton's typically there. That's all I'm saying. I don't think he's going to follow him, but I think he's going to see a lot of him. It's just, yeah, I don't see the upside. If he scores, he scores, but like, I get why

Heath is ranking him there because he thinks he's going to see a lot of volume based on Heath's philosophy, but who is starting Darius Slayton over some of the guys that he hasn't ranked over? That's never going to happen. I mean, I have a lot of Slayton, so I could give you, like, I have to start Slayton. Slayton over some of the guys that he hasn't ranked over. That's never going to happen. I mean, I have a lot of Slayton, so I could give you like, I have to start Slayton. Slayton or Sammy Watkins.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Actually, I think I have Hunter Renfro in that league, so I'm going to start Renfro, but I'm actually going to start... See, the problem is I have Tyreek Hill in that league. But I think I'd start Watkins anyway. I'd start Watkins in general over Slayton, would you?

Yeah, you're banking on the quarterback. Why would you even consider starting Slayton over Watkins? Because I have Tyreek Hill in that league. No, there's obviously certain situations. But in just a vacuum, one guy who's playing with the greatest quarterback maybe of all time, certainly the greatest quarterback we're watching right now.

Well, Slayton, I guess Slayton is like a worse version of Michael Gallup. He does have big game potential. We've seen it, but no, I'm not against the Rams. No, not doing it. All right, that's that game. How about Baltimore at Washington? This is a good one. Stat of the game. No wide receiver has 70 yards yet

against Washington. They're actually playing some pretty good defense. No Chase Young most likely in this game, but Ronnie Stanley left tackle for the Ravens also banged up. DeAndre Hopkins had eight catches for only 68 yards. He did score a touchdown. He's the only wide receiver

with more than six non-PPR fantasy points against Washington. So they've done a good job. Marquise Brown's been very frustrating, guys. Start or sit, Hollywood Brown. I think he's a low-end number two, high-end number three receiver. I do think that there's bounce-back potential for this Ravens offense. There's no Chase Young, so the pass rush is going to be a little bit worse for the Washington football team. And some of those numbers are skewed because they

played Philadelphia in week one when Carson Wentz couldn't breathe. Every time he touched the ball, he was getting hit, and their receiving core is not good. And then they faced the Browns, who ran all over them. And so I just don't think you're looking at it as, is this a real good indication of what their secondary is? Now, this isn't the team that's going to test them to the degrees of what most passing attacks will test them, but it wouldn't shock me at all if Marquise Brown has a big touchdown.

Yeah, does he okay so would you start um would you start jerek mckinnon or marquise brown i would start mckinnon i would too miles gaskin or marquise brown i would start brown and non-ppr gaskin and ppr i'd be tempted to start Gaskin in both. The thing about Gaskin that's a problem for him is he's, he's just not finding the end zone. So he's not proven. Neither is Brown though. He's not true. He's not proven to be a,

a, you know, a consistent hundred total yard type of guy yet, you know, so you're asking for him to get 60, 70 yards. That's kind of where he's been. Adam,

are you interested in knowing the quarterback ratings allowed by the cornerbacks in Washington? Actually, I've noticed they're quite low. They are. The guys are playing well. They're playing well. Jimmy Moreland's allowed a catch rate of almost 75%. That's not great.

But Ronald Darby's really started to play well. He's been part of the reason why they've been doing well. Catch rate's low. Yak is real low. Do you guys think that Lamar Jackson's just going to go off? He's had two bad fantasy games in a row. I think that's what everybody's kind of counting on. Right.

It's, you know, they build it as a rivalry game because of the proximity between the two teams. And so he's coming off just an absolute horror show of a game for him. I, it just feels like this is a, an avalanche coming for the Ravens, you know? So that's why I think Mark Ingram comes into play because of what the expected outcome could be. J.K.

Dobbins. If you're thinking there's a blowout, Gus Edwards, if you're thinking they're a blowout, you know, there there's, there's opportunities for these guys. If you're stuck, like I'll give example, I have a team where I just lost everybody at running back i was able as a christian mccaffrey manager i was able to pick up mike davis but i have nothing else like i picked up rex burkhead this week i can't trust rex burkett i may play jk dobbins just because i think he can get some

garbage time run wow okay so how about um comparing ingram i know you guys disagreed a little bit about ingram versus Gibson. I'll go back to that. Start Ingram. As I'm thinking it through, start Ingram over Gibson. Over Gibson. Okay. So then how would you rank Ingram, Gibson, Marquise Brown?

Brown, Ingram, Gibson. Yeah. Okay. Yes. And then McLaurin ahead of... McLaurin's the best of of the yeah football team guys no event of anyone in this game maybe andrews i don't know no no i think it's gonna be a bad game for mclaurin you do look you have 23rd bad game for mclaurin

could still be 13 or 14 ppr points yeah. I think that's the expectation, which means single digits and non. Yeah. He's, he's, I think I have a low one number two receiver, but I don't think he should even be that high. He's just, you know,

we were down a lot of guys, you know? So like you were at, where I haven't ranked down in 2030. You said, yes. So, so Thomas plays,

that'll bump him back. Julio plays, that'll bump him back. Devante plays, that'll bump him back. Devontae plays, that'll bump him back. You know, he's going to probably get knocked down a few spots. Okay, would you start MVS or Preston Williams over Terry McLaurin? I would start Preston Williams. Preston.

Hunter Renfro or Terry McLaurin? You can make the case for Renfro in PPR. Non-PPR, I think you're probably just, maybe you're just better off going with McLaurin either way. I mean, this is really tough. I kind of want to do it, though. I kind of want to go with Hunter Renfro. The Ravens, I mean, they crushed Beckham.

Will Fuller didn't even get a target. I don't care what the Chiefs did. The Chiefs are different. This is scary. I am a little nervous. And they're coming off a loss. They're coming off a tough loss, but they got absolutely embarrassed. Yeah.

National TV. Right. And they're going to go right after Haskins. More than a quarter of Haskins' throws are off target, uncatchable. And it's going to be Marcus Peters. I bet they shadow Peters on McLaurin with a safety helping him. Not Humphrey? No.

Peters is faster. Humphrey's better. I agree,, Peters is faster. Humphrey's better. I agree, but Peters is faster. It doesn't matter. That's the thing. They lost Tavon Young, and they still have one of the deepest stables of cornerbacks. All right, Lamar Jackson or Dwayne Haskins?

Well, that one's really close. Depends on how many points you get for turnover. Ron Rivera is fielding questions about benching. They should go to Alex Smith. Maybe they do in this game. Well, I don't know if they go to Alex Smith or they go to Kyle Allen first. Oh, that's true. I want to see Alex Smith play again.

All right, guys. Baltimore DST is number one overall. We got two games left. We're going to take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. When we come back, we got Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Arizona, Carolina. We'll be right back. Whether in the

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Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. And we've got the Eagles going out west to face the 49ers. We have actually... Eagles going to Hotel California. Oh, very nice. I like that. It's a lovely place. All right. So any.... It's a lovely place. All right.

So any Start Sanders, Start Earths? Their wide receivers go on the IR, but they can never leave. I love that song. God, it is just a masterpiece. Okay, Start Sanders, Start Earths, right? Yes. Yes. San Francisco, they have allowed the second fewest pass

plays of 20 plus yards no pass plays of 40 plus yards they've been good at that Carson Wentz third in the NFL in air yards so this will be a tough challenge for him I would think even with the first time that we ever see five defenders covering one person well how much do you like

how crazy would it be to start Greg Ward over McLaurin? I mean, these are the type of things that, you know, when it works out, you're a genius. And when it doesn't, you're like, what the hell was I thinking? So, you know, you could do it. You know, it's the same thing with Renfro. It makes more sense when you look at it

from what the target share is going to be, what the matchups are and how the scenario is going to play itself out. But I mean, Carson Wentz can also die in this game based on how many times he's going to get hit. Is he though? Like, I don't know what to make of the Niners.

They've faced the jets with all those injuries during the game and then the giants. And they're banged up, but this is also a banged up offensive line against a quarterback that just seems like a shell of himself. So it's, it's a bad, bad scenario for the Eagles.

And then for the Niners, it's just McKinnon, right? And Kittle. Wilson's in the flex conversation on PPR, and Ayuk is in the what-the-hell flex conversation. Not what the hell, but what the hell. Yeah, I mean, the Eagles actually pretty... The Eagles have a good defense so far this year.

I think they're third in the NFL in yards per play on defense. They have not had the toughest schedule so far. Right, that's why. They faced the Washington football team in week one, and then the Bengals, and we know the Bengals haven't exactly been great offensively. They've faced two of the worst offensive lines in football, and now they're about to take on one of the best

offensive lines in football. They did really well against A.J. Green. They did well against the Rams wide receivers pretty well. They did well against McLaurin. So, so far they've got a pretty solid defense. Kittle's a must start. San Francisco DST is top four. I don't

want to shortchange this game, but I do think we've covered so much. A DFS tournament play sleeper is John Hightower. Who I think... Oh, he didn't? No, I'm telling you. The only Eagles receiver who practiced... Deontay Burnett didn't practice either?

The only Eagles wide receiver who practiced on their 53-man roster is Greg Ward. What about Mike Quick? No, but a lot of people are asking about Akeem Butler and, you know, what to do with him because, you know, last year we saw that they were, you know, running a lot of three tight end options. I forget who the third guy was that they were using

at the end of the season. It was a converted wide receiver. But they're desperate. I mean, they're absolutely desperate for help. So it wouldn't be a surprise. I don't know who's on their practice squad, whoever they may elevate, but they're stuck. They are, they're absolutely desperate for help. So it wouldn't be a surprise. I don't know who's on their practice squad, whoever they may elevate, but they're,

they're stuck. They are really stuck at wide receiver. All right. Last game is Arizona at Carolina. Kyler Murray is a top eight quarterback. He's always pretty much going to be there most weeks. If not every week, Kenyon Drake or Mike Davis guys,

Mike Davis with 16 catches in his last two games, although it's not sustainable. Another great stat from Jacob Gibbs on Twitch last night. He's been targeted on like 48% of his routes. I don't remember exactly what it was, Mike Davis, but it was like almost 50% of his routes. Last year, Austin Eckler led the NFL somewhere around 25% of his routes. He was targeted.

So don't expect those catches, same amount from Davis. And whereas Kenyon Drake has, what, two catches, two catches, one catch, five this season. So Drake or Mike Davis? Drake in non-PPR, Davis in PPR. I have Drake ahead of Davis by the back-to-back in PPR. So I'll go with Drake. I don't buy into this Panthers' run defense being any better

just because they didn't allow multiple touchdowns to running backs last week. They only allowed one. But I think this is a good matchup for Drake. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm very confused right now. I'm not sure if we covered this game yesterday or not. I don't think we did. But for some reason, I'm just like, I think we talked about DJ Moore.

Let's do it. I think we spoke about DJ Moore so much Tuesday night on Twitch and Thursday night that it's messing with my head. All right, so what do you do if DeAndre Hopkins doesn't play? Do you start any? Do you feel better about Kenyon Drake? Well, I think it depends on Christian Kirk. If Kirk plays and Hopkins doesn't,

then he becomes somebody that's in the number three receiver conversation in the Renfro, Ward, Beasley, all the islands. He becomes an island. Okay. Mike Davis, 20th in non-PPR and top 15 in PPR. Top 10 for

Jamie and Heath in PPR. Hard to get away from Mike Davis. DJ Moore or Robbie Anderson? Who do you like better? Moore. I really want to say Robbie. The Cardinals allow the second fewest fantasy points to wide receivers.

However, fourth fewest targets to wide receivers are not necessarily great on a per-target basis, and they've only faced two must-start guys. McLaurin was a monster. 125 yards and a touchdown. Gallad monster, 125 yards and a touchdown. Galladay, 57 yards and a touchdown. Yeah, the last two number one receivers that they faced have done well against them,

and Moore by targets is still number one. Would you start Daryl Henderson over DJ Moore and or Robbie Anderson? Yes. All right. Arizona DST is 7th for Jamie, 17th for dave 13th for heath so they're interesting in the rankings we've gotten so many dj more questions that i'm just going to fire away with some more dj more questions that was well said dj more or dalton schultz more i'll say more but I think it's honestly

I think it's close it's close to non PPR but in PPR I think more will be better DJ more or Preston Williams DJ more I have more right there DJ more or David Montgomery

Montgomery and non yep I might take Montgomery and non. Yep. I might take Montgomery and PPR, too. Let me see. Yeah, I think I'd do it. And last one, DJ Moore or Devin Singletary? Devin Singletary,

especially if Zach Moss does not play. Agreed. Hey, great job, guys. Hey. Can't wait to tell everybody about my Dolphin Stack on Fantasy Football Today on HQ. Make sure you check it out. Yeah.

I started with that, and I figured, I was worried, oh, man, one of the guys is going to have a Dolphin Stack. There's no way I should go with a dolphin stack. You should go with a dolphin stack. There's plenty of dolphin stacks to go around. But everybody's going to go with a dolphin stack. Well, that's only... Makes me worry that they're going to blow up on us.

Like, it's a bad blow up, not a good blow up. Yeah, I'm a little nervous. We've got to take some chances in DFS. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for listening. Mailbag on Saturday. And we'll talk to you on Twitch and HQ on Sunday. See you.

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