Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC) and McCaffrey Reaction; Trust the Giants? Worried About the Bucs? (09/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 24, 2021We recap Panthers-Texans (2:30) and of course discuss the Christian McCaffrey injury. How good will Chuba Hubbard be if McCaffrey is out? Is it time to drop Robby Anderson? Trade Brandin Cooks? ... Fi...ve questions for Week 3 (17:40): Where would Alexander Mattison rank if he is starting? How will the Bucs do if Antonio Brown is out? What's up with the 49ers RBs? Are people concerned about Aaron Rodgers this week? Why is Demetric Felton being added? We also have news and notes (23:30), Beat the Waiver Wire (27:15) and the Startometer (28:40) for Ravens-Lions, Eagles-Cowboys and Seahawks-Vikings ... Start or Sit for Bucs-Rams (35:00), Bengals-Steelers (45:30), Falcons-Giants (51:15), Packers-49ers (59:40), Ravens-Lions (1:05:00), Eagles-Cowboys (1:08:30), Seahawks-Vikings (1:14:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What a play.
Off to the races.
Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
All right, everybody.
We're going to try to stay positive today. It's a bit of a bummer to see Christian McCaffrey go down with a hamstring strain.
A bit of a bummer?
Well, listen, maybe it's not the basically season ender that he dealt with last year.
He got hurt in week two, and he played only one more game.
Maybe it's just, hey, put him on IR,
misses three games and we'll be fine.
You know, just, hey.
It's a bit of a bummer that your fantasy season
might be shipwrecked already and it's not even October.
Just a bit, just a smidge of a bummer.
Doesn't have to be shipwrecked.
I mean, I think you don't have, okay, listen,
if he's out for the year, then you're probably in trouble.
But if not, it's okay. You can deal with this and he listen. If he's out for the year, then you're probably in trouble. But if not, it's okay.
You can deal with this.
And he's not going to be out for the year.
All right?
I'm telling you this.
I saw the scans.
Everything's going to be fine.
Yeah, they leaked.
How long is he going to be out for then, Dr. Acer?
To me, it looks like a two to three week thing.
Some of the fibrous muscle tissue expanded.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's a word or not.
Welcome to the Friday show.
Happy Friday, everybody.
And we'll recap Carolina 24, Houston 9,
and Sam Darnold with another good fantasy game
and 300 yards passing against the Texans
and Brandon Cooks.
Oh, I should have done the math.
I'm guessing he had like 80% of the receiving yards
for the team.
We could do that math. Also, great games to preview. I don't think it's 80% of the receiving yards for the team. We can do that math.
Also, great games to preview.
I don't think it's 80%, though.
All right, you tell me.
But we got Tampa Bay at the Rams.
We got Cincinnati at Pittsburgh.
We got Green Bay, San Francisco.
We have Atlanta at the Giants, which is very intriguing for fantasy purposes.
I'm not going to give the whole schedule.
What's up, Jamie?
All right, let's talk about Christian McCaffrey.
How many McCaffrey teams do you have?
I just have one.
And, you know, to your point about your season being shipwrecked,
I had him in two leagues last year.
One of the ones I had him in was Redraft League,
won the Dynasty League.
I still won the championship without him.
I had Mike Davis, so that certainly helped,
but it was not fun. I think we'll find
out how good Chuba Hubbard's going to be. It was very interesting to see how social media was
reacting to Chuba Hubbard versus Royce Freeman and how people, I think, are maybe a little too interested in Royce Freeman.
So, yeah, we'll see.
I'm just curious, knowing how that game started and when they pulled him,
if it was more just, hey, we dealt with this last year.
We don't want to deal with it again.
Let's just be cautious and get him out of the game.
Or is it that severe?
I don't know.
Hubbard actually was not doing much until the
last couple of drives he had some big runs he ran really well down the stretch their their offensive
line is not great no and so that's that's something to take into account is that first give the texans
some credit you know they they could have easily got demolished in this game and they fought and
some stupid play calling i think uh when dav Davis Mills got rolling, they started to just pull back a little bit
as opposed to letting him go.
But, yeah, that offensive line for the Panthers isn't great,
and so I'd be a little bit concerned about Chuba Hubbard.
You know, Christian McCaffrey overcomes some things,
but you're obviously going to spend as much fab as you have to
if he's going to miss time.
The nice thing is that you should know by Tuesday what the severity is.
You know, this isn't a Sunday going into Tuesday.
We have to wait until Wednesday.
I mean, we'll know.
Yeah, yeah.
And he had three catches, Juba Hubbard.
So he finished with 11 carries for 52 yards, three catches for 27 yards.
And he's 44% rostered.
Wait, Dave, I said Brandon Cooks, right, with the yardage?
I thought you said DJ Moore. Oh, I'm sorry. I meant Brandon Cooks. You said Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks, right, with the yardage? I thought you said DJ Moore.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I meant Brandon Cooks.
You said Brandon Cooks.
Brandon Cooks said two-thirds.
Oh, yeah, then that's going to be closer to 80%.
It was two-thirds.
He had two-thirds of Davis Mills yards, or two-thirds of the receiving.
Yeah, 40% of the Panthers yards went to DJ Moore.
That's not so bad.
DJ Moore was great.
So we've got to bounce around.
We've got to talk about a lot of things in this game.
But also, it was
a bad game for Carolina. They didn't just lose
Christian McCaffrey. They lost J.C.
Horn, rookie cornerback, top
10 pick, broken foot, and
safety Justin Burris is going to miss some time with
a groin injury. But if we look
at just a finish on
Hubbard, you know, should be
a must-add player. Like I said,
44% rostered should be close to 100 next week. Like I said, 44% rostered
should be close to 100 next week.
Oh, for sure.
Yes.
Your initial thoughts on Fab.
Even if he misses just one game,
you've got to pick him up across the board.
Your initial thoughts...
Okay, that would be at Dallas next week.
Your initial thoughts on Fab.
Well, again, we'll know come Tuesday
if it's two to three weeks, if he's on IR, if it's one game, if it's week to week.
Whatever the initial diagnosis or outcome might be of how long he's going to be out, that'll determine what you're going to spend.
But it's going to be at the minimum of 25%.
I mean, you have to – if it's just one week.
And if it's short-term IR or longer, it's maybe all of it.
You go and see what Elijah Mitchell went for.
You add $1, and that's your bid.
That's if it's long-term.
I agree.
If it's short-term, then you're looking at 25%.
Okay.
And Royce Freeman did have five carries.
He also had a goal-line carry from about the two-yard line.
Didn't quite get in.
That was one play after Hubbard dropped a touchdown pass.
How about Sam Darnold?
He's 51% rostered.
And if you watch the game,
I think Troy Aikman was doing his best
to nicely say that Sam Darnold was missing,
not playing so great at times.
I mean, he's got the worst pocket presence.
He fumbled twice.
Both were covered by the Panthers.
He missed some big plays,
throws he didn't see that he should have made.
Potential big play to DJ Moore wasn't a great throw.
But he ends up with 25 fantasy points
and two rushing touchdowns.
That's 21, 22, and 25 points in three games
and six points per passing touchdown leagues.
He's at Dallas next week.
Some people thought that Sam Darnold
was going to really,
you know,
resurrect his career and become fantasy relevant.
I think a lot of us,
I certainly did laugh,
not laughed it off,
but dismissed it.
I really didn't think so.
Do you think that's happening,
Dave?
Do you think Sam Darnold is becoming a fantasy relevant quarterback that,
you know,
that,
that basically needs to be rostered?
I think he's better than what he was in New York,
but I think a lot of it has to do with the scheme that he's in
and the talent around him.
I think the scheme fits him really well.
They're giving him well-defined reads.
You can tell because he's getting the ball out quick
on most of the plays that he's, honestly,
that he's throwing to either McCaffrey or DJ Moore.
That ball's coming out quick.
It's accurate.
It's good.
He's confident in that offensive line.
He's doing a good job protecting him in short periods of time.
When he's holding on a little bit longer and when he's trying to read defenses,
that's when he's going to start making mistakes and being inconsistent.
And that's what we saw from him with the Jets a lot of the time
with some inconsistent throws.
There were more of it with the Jets than so far with Carolina.
I would imagine there could be some really bad games ahead. And I also wonder just how he'll be affected by Christian McCaffrey not
being in the backfield. I think defenses will play them quite differently with Chuba Hubbard
in the backfield instead of Christian McCaffrey. So look, I don't think he's going to run for
multiple touchdowns very often. I still don't think he's going to get 300 yards very often
unless he really starts to get Robbie Anderson going in the offense, or maybe this Tommy Tremble is going to be somebody
who becomes a staple in the offense. He'll be a good bi-week quarterback, definitely a good
number two QB in super flex leagues, but not somebody who can ascend to the top 12 on a weekly
basis. Jamie, sell high on DJ Moore or just ride it out? And is it time to drop Robbie Anderson?
I mean, anytime you see a player like this that you drafted not in the top two rounds or so,
you can consider him a sell-high candidate,
but you've got to be getting something better in return,
and that's probably only a running back
that you think is going to get a lot of work at this point.
But he's awesome, and he's been very good his entire career.
The thing that just is the problem,
which is continuing to be the problem is the touchdowns one in three games.
You know, that's typically about the pace that he's on, you know,
one of four games.
So, you know, hopefully that he,
he can find the end zone a little bit more, but I mean,
you just look at the target chair,
you look at the production the first three weeks you know,
I'm very happy as a DJ more fantasy manager, Robbie Anderson,
I will give one more week
because if McCaffrey's out facing Dallas,
that's probably going to be a game where they're going to have to score.
And so I'll give it one more opportunity, not to start, but to stash.
But if you have to cut him, I certainly understand it.
You know, five catches through three weeks is clearly terrible.
So it's just been a very frustrating, you know, start for Robbie Anderson.
Imagine if he didn't have the touchdown against the Jets in week one,
how bad it would have been.
Would you be cutting him if he didn't have it?
If McCaffrey was healthy, then yes.
I mean, look, in 10-team leagues, it's easy to cut him
because there's probably a lot of talent on the waiver wire.
In 12-team leagues, it's not as easy to give up on a player so soon.
But for whatever reason, I tweeted this last night,
that Sam Darnold, every time he looks
at Robbie Anderson, he thinks of Adam Gase and gets PTSD. And so, you know, I just wonder what
the deal is, like why he's not looking at him. And at one point, and I think Robbie just had
the one catch. At one point, the list of players in this game alone
that had more catches than Robbie Anderson.
I mean, we're talking about Rex Burkhead and Dan Arnold
and Alex Erickson and Jordan Aikens.
I mean, you just think of the names.
It's like, it's just, it's so weird.
I just don't, I don't understand how he was such a part
of this offense last year and so successful first time with joe brady first time back with matt rule since their days at
temple um you know if anything maybe you can trade him to denver for courtland not for cold
and sudden but for you know something because teddy bridgewater loved him and sam donald
obviously does not well he's always been a streaky wide receiver, but it's the targets that are just so alarming.
Two targets last night.
The throw to DJ Moore that you referenced,
when they showed the reverse camera angle
and Robbie Anderson is standing on the sidelines
with his hands on his hips.
And I'm thinking to myself,
A, yes, bad throw by Donald.
B, throw that to Robbie Anderson.
That's your deep guy.
I mean, DJ Moore should be the everything.
DJ Moore is amazing.
I'm not saying DJ Moore can't do it,
but the shot, I wanted to freeze frame it and send it out.
Just Robbie Anderson standing there, hands on his hips,
watching DJ Moore watch the ball go off his hand,
trying to juggle it, and it just doesn't make any sense.
That's really not fair.
It's possible that he was saying offsides.
You know, maybe he was trying to get a, you know, hands on.
It's very true.
Yeah, yeah, right?
Very funny stuff.
Well, let me finish up with this game, Dave.
Afterwards, they showed his middle finger, so I don't know.
Brandon Cooks, nine catches, 112 yards,
that's 78 or more yards in all three games.
This was supposed to be the start of the brutal stretch.
It's still pretty brutal at Buffalo, New England,
at Indianapolis, at Arizona, the Rams, the Dolphins, a bye.
Again, the schedule looks tough.
Does it matter with Brandon Cooks?
Is he still a sell high?
Dave?
It's getting harder and harder to say that he's a sell high
when he's putting up great numbers, even with Davis Mills.
Yeah, I think you can take offers on him still if you want to,
but this is not the Brandon Cooks that we've known throughout his career,
the Brandon Cooks that we've known throughout his career.
Very streaky, like we talked about with Robbie Anderson.
One week he's good, next two weeks he's bad.
Well, now it's three weeks in a row that he's been really, really good.
So usually you want to hang on to those kinds of players in fantasy.
That's expert advice right there.
I know, but hang on to your good players.
He's an absolute sell-high candidate because he's playing great.
And again, you're selling him for something that can help your team
in a different way because you probably didn't draft him
to be one of your top two receivers.
You should be starting him as one of your top two receivers because you probably didn't draft him to be one of your top two receivers. You should be starting him
as one of your top two receivers,
but you didn't draft him that way.
And so if you can get a struggling running back
in return for him,
or him and a running back
that might be playing over his head,
or a tight end or quarterback
that might be playing over their head
for a running back that could help your team,
you should be shopping him for sure.
Yeah, and I know he had a great game, 112 yards,
but Davis Mills threw for 168 yards.
It doesn't matter.
This offense is so bad, and he's the best player on it.
I know.
We're feeding him the football.
It's beautiful.
I understand that, but there's still limitations
to what someone can do with a quarterback.
I just don't see Davis Mills having a great three-game stretch
or two more games, whatever it's going to be with Taylor,
especially with Buffalo.
But he didn't have a great game last night.
And I know, I know, but that's, that's when you, that's when I would say,
I don't buy that.
That could happen again, where he's going to get 66% of the team's receiving yards,
especially with Buffalo and new England is the next two games.
Well, I think the bigger question is, can he keep up this type of target share where
he's got 11 of 28 throws going his way? That's probably not very sustainable that's almost 40 of the target share but he's
still going to get a lot of target at minimum eight targets from game to game is that i'm not
saying he stinks i'm just saying right you try to turn him into let's see who has a bad yeah i mean
you absolutely should be shopping him there's no reason to not shop him at this point because
it's not this is
not sustainable but i mean like five for 80 is probably something that he could still do based
on the amount of targets he's going to get i love so he's not going to completely fall off the face
of the earth this isn't give him away or get whatever you can no you should be getting something
great in return i'm not saying to trade him for anything yeah you're trading him for like you're
saying when you said you should absolutely sell high is that you just get whatever you can for brandon cooks no that's not what i said you said you sell him high for somebody
that's that's uh a buy low candidate so like if if i can turn brandon cooks and would you trade
him for nagi harris i'm trying to do that if i can turn brandon cooks and and another player of
that caliber into antonio gibson or saquonley, I'm a thousand percent trying to do that.
That I'm doing too.
Would you do it straight up for Clyde Edwards?
If I needed a running back and that's the best I can do.
And you know,
cooks is,
is,
is among my,
you know,
third receiver,
fourth receiver,
depending on the type of league that I'm in,
then yeah,
I would consider it.
Okay.
I wouldn't love it,
but I consider it right.
So shoot higher than that.
Yes.
Yeah,
you should.
Yeah. Okay. But. Yeah, you should.
Yeah, okay.
But don't give him away.
And Davis Mills isn't going to be the quarterback for the rest of the year either,
just to keep that in mind.
But I just hate the schedule.
I didn't like it last night either when he came through.
All right, listen, Sunday, 10 a.m.
By the way, when we do the autopsy
on the 2014 wide receiver draft class,
how's it going to look two, three years from now?
Right.
While Devontae Adams was in that class or no yes yeah so he'll be at the top no mike evans might be at the top still
but ahead of that of adams well body work i don't think it would be at the top cooks will be pretty
close it's evidence if things continue fast but ev Evans had a two, three-year head start on him.
Allen Robinson was in that class.
Yep.
Yes.
And Brandon Cooks and Odell Beckham
and Sammy Watkins.
And who am I forgetting?
Jordan Matthews.
Jordan Matthews.
I think I'm forgetting another star.
Calvin Benjamin.
Do you remember who I thought
was going to be the best guy
in that class?
Marquis Lee.
Yeah, Marquis Lee.
I loved him.
Okay, listen.
Sunday, 10 a.m. Eastern.
Why do I bring these things up?
10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern.
Jarvis is in that class, too.
Who?
Jarvis Landry.
Oh, not bad.
10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern.
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we're going to preview the games and get into it a little bit more deeply. But week three questions,
I got five of them.
Where do you rank Alexander Madison if Dalvin Cook is out?
Madison, by the way, is rostered in just 63% of leagues.
That should change.
You've had time to do it.
I don't know what the deal is here.
But where would you rank Madison if Cook were out against Seattle?
Around 20.
Yeah, he's a top 24 running back okay what are your overall thoughts on the
bucks offense without antonio brown and facing the rams
i'm still my play yes i was about to say that but yes thank you it's uh it's a downgrade you know i
mean you take away one of their best players but you it's certainly a luxury for Tom Brady and the Bucs to have
when you can say, okay, we don't have Antonio Brown, but we still have Evans and Godwin and
Gronk and all the other parts that they'll
throw at the Rams. So it's a downgrade for Brady.
And Evans may get some additional attention now from Ramsey if they decide to do
that, but they haven't been doing that necessarily so far.
I don't know.
I'm not benching Evans or Godwin yet.
Or Gronk.
Can't do that.
But Brady's the one that I think is hurt the most.
Do you think they score 30 points at the Rams?
No.
I mean, Vegas would agree with you. I'd say it's just shy that like 27 28 okay uh question
the third why do san francisco running backs always get hurt and what the hell are we thinking
right now getting ready for this sunday night game is it trade sermon time might be one report that suggested it's going to be sermon and uh patrick and
potentially carry on and cannon so if mitchell can't go they'll probably elevate carry on
and hasty looks like he's out so i'd be excited about sermon if he's in that potentially lead
role not to anything more than flex but but they run on the Packers.
We'll see if that continues.
Patrick's available in 93% of CBS Sports leagues,
just in case you want to take a flyer.
If you've got dead weight on your bench,
you could cut the dead weight for Patrick,
and then Patrick could be the guy you cut if he doesn't do anything
to get Chuba Hubbard on your team before week four.
I forgot to double-check this. I'll try to do it while webard on your team before week four. I forgot to double check this.
I'll try to do it while we're on the air.
But the Packers, in their last nine games,
going back to last year, including postseason,
they've allowed one carry longer than 14 yards
to a running back.
Not quarterbacks have had some success,
but one carry of longer than 14 yards,
no carries longer than 20 yards.
Their run defense really turned
the corner late in the year and so far it's been pretty good um not incredible but it's been pretty
solid through two games against the saints like camara didn't have any big plays and last week
they did a great job against alliance um why are people nervous about aaron rogers
who's nervous about aaron roth he Heath has him 17th or something like that.
You can call Heath.
He's got him 16th.
And you guys have Rodgers 12th.
And Dave has him 5th.
So James has 12th.
You have 9th now?
Okay.
All right.
As of yesterday, he was 12th.
There he is. Now he's ninth.
Ahead of Brady, ahead of Hurts, ahead of Cousins.
Do you feel like people are nervous about him?
I feel like people might think that this
is a tough matchup in San Francisco. I don't
know that it is. It's not a
cakewalk. No, it's not a cakewalk.
I don't know. I'm not benching Aaron Rodgers if I have him.
So the worry is
probably that the offensive line isn't exactly the same for Green Bay,
which is something that we talked about in the preseason,
and that the 49ers do bring a pretty healthy pass rush against everybody that they play.
But their secondary still has some issues in there.
They've been besieged by injuries.
And it's Aaron Rodgers, and he didn't look terrible in Week 2 at all,
especially compared to Week 1. He was off in Week 1. He was on in Week 2, and it was Aaron Rodgers, and he didn't look terrible in week two at all, especially compared to week one.
He was off in week one.
He was on in week two, and it was against the Lions.
I have a hard time expecting him to stink,
and I think he's got, like, is it three touchdowns
in three of his last four against San Francisco
or multiple touchdowns with a lot of yards in three of his last four?
It's something like that, but he's really only had one stinker in his last four against the Niners,
and I just don't see him having another one here.
He has multiple touchdowns.
He has 32 points, 11 points, 21 points, and 36 points
in his last four games against the 49ers.
And it's all within the last three years, correct?
Yeah, two of them were in the...
We're not going back to 2012 here.
No, 2018, 19, and 20.
And two of them were against the 49ers in 2019,
and that's when they had their best defense.
I mean, that was their Super Bowl year.
All right, let me see.
I have one more question for you here.
Why is Cleveland running back Dimitrik Felton
one of the most added players?
His projections must have been high.
After he scored last week.
Well, I mean, there was the report about him helping out
in the passing game more without Jarvis Landry there.
So that's something you could see.
But he's on the injury report.
I just think that with Beckham plays, it's hard to expect.
I guess it would be if Schwartz is still hurt
and Peoples Jones is not doing very much
and Higgins not doing very much.
That's something that the Browns might consider you know using just another player in
that regard but it's probably just because he's being used in their scheme more as a receiver
but he's listed as a running back so his projections must be a little bit off so he had
zero carries and he had two catches and one was for 33 yards and a touchdown.
And I don't know.
Maybe he gets a couple of screens, short area targets, and that's it. Yeah.
There was a report that Felton could be used more in the slot with Landry out,
as Jamie alluded to.
But just seeing a little bit of buzz on him,
I don't think that we're really rushing to pick up Demetrik Felton.
But he is eligible at running back.
All right, news and notes.
Lamar Jackson's going to play.
Tee Higgins might not, though.
We'll preview that game and tell you
how that affects the rest of the receiving core.
Trey Sermon making progress.
Eli Mitchell.
Felton played four snaps last week.
Yeah, it's not even that he's projected.
Like, he's projected.
I'm just looking at our site right now
for just shy of seven PPR points.
He's in the same range
as Latavius Murray,
Mark Ingram,
for what it's worth last night,
James Conner,
and Sonny Michel,
which is still factoring in
Daryl Henderson getting projections.
So he's in that flex conversation.
He's got more projected points
than Zach Moss and Ronald Jones.
I texted Heath,
why are you so low on Aaron Rodgers?
He said,
more that I like the streamers so much
Rodgers is was a low end QB
one it's a great week for streamers
does he say before he sent the text
no he didn't say that
DeAndre Hopkins mispracticed
you guys worried about him playing
the Cardinals are not so no
same with Dalvin Cook
we'll see if he practices on Friday
Josh Jacobs is making progress.
He did not practice.
Making progress.
Probably not expecting him this week against Miami.
He's in the non-contact jersey, right?
Yeah.
I think he shed it, though.
Is that what happened?
But he didn't practice?
The official injury report is he did not practice.
So that's what we have to go by.
Okay.
Odell Beckham.
He's making progress.
Are you guys anticipating Beckham plays this week?
What is the deal here? Okay. But, he's making progress. Are you guys anticipating Beckham plays this week? What is the deal here?
Okay.
But you're not starting him.
I would like not to,
but some people have their potentially hands forced.
I know I'm in one league where I have four receivers.
The fourth one is Michael Thomas.
The other three are Tyree Kill, Deontay Johnson, and T. Higgins.
So I would like to have Od that back up if I could.
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Right.
Chiefs-Chargers game.
Nick Bosa for the Chargers.
Missed practice.
Kenny Galladay was limited.
Evan Ingram practiced.
Limited.
Carson Wentz.
I kind of like Ingram this week.
Yeah, it'd be nice if he plays.
Yeah. Yeah, he's widely available.
I'll make him if he plays.
Zach Ertz is still on the reserve COVID list
as they have a Monday night game.
He has a little bit of extra time to get off that list.
Murray Cooper's trending in the right direction.
Looks like he's going to play.
And the Colts may rotate their quarterbacks.
I think we talked about this on the air late yesterday.
Nick Eason and Brett Hundley.
Okay.
Would you start Beckham or Pittman?
Probably Beckham.
I think I have Pittman higher in PPR.
Okay.
I do.
Do you expect the following players, Ben Roethlisberger and Deontay Johnson?
Yes and no.
Yeah.
Noah Fant and Tim Patrick against the Jets.
I think Patrick was cleared of the injury report, if I'm not mistaken.
But Fant, yes.
Okay.
Daryl Henderson against Tampa Bay.
Today's the day, according to Sean McVay.
So hopefully he plays.
No way.
He'll play.
And that's what I will say.
Hooray!
And Marquise Brown at Detroit.
He's on the injury list And Marquise Brown at Detroit. He's on the injury list.
Marquise Brown.
Yeah.
There was a story in the athletic,
which was,
you know,
talking about how he's,
you know,
he said he's finally happy about he's making plays and he said he wishes he
could practice more.
So,
you know,
take that for what it's worth,
but you know,
it'd be nice to see him out there practicing,
but I would assume he's playing at this point.
It sounds like a lie.
I, I've seen him on the at this point. Sounds like a lie. I've
seen him on the injury report every week this
season so far.
Yeah, last season too.
I'm not sweating it.
All right, let's beat the waiver
wire. I don't really
have great beat the waiver wire suggestions.
People Hubbard.
Baker Mayfield's at Minnesota.
Patrick is still on the injury report. I apologize.
Baker Mayfield's at Minnesota. I'm sorry. Patrick is still on the injured part. I apologize. Okay.
Baker Mayfield's at Minnesota.
Chicago DST against Detroit.
Cincinnati DST against Jacksonville.
Colts at the Dolphins.
Jacoby Brissett revenge game.
Tennessee at the Jets.
I don't know if you like any of those options.
Bears against the Lions.
Bengals against Jacksonville.
Corey Davis revenge game.
Oh, yeah. Jets-Titans. Bears against the Lions. Bengals against Jacksonville. Corey Davis revenge game. Oh, yeah.
Jets-Titans. Yeah, great call.
Yeah, Titans at the Jets. Colts at the Dolphins.
Elijah Moore. Go get him. Elijah Moore is on my
list. Evan Ingram. This is the week.
Anyone else? I put
Evan Ingram and Elijah Moore on here.
I would say because he's getting
dropped just because it's the Bengals, Trevor Lawrence,
that could be a good bounce-back game for him.
All right.
Listen, I mean,
if you have a free spot, maybe you'd stash
that DST that you really like for next week
or something like that. I think
there are some tough
DST matchups next week, like the Patriots
have the Bucs, the Rams
have the Cardinals or the Seahawks
I feel like the Ravens
have a tough matchup so you might
Ravens have the Broncos in Denver
no then that's not super Rams have the
Cardinals so yeah that's going to be tough
on LA who do the
Steelers have Steelers will
take on the Packers in Green Bay
so you might have to go DST streamers
next week.
And yeah, you could get a jump on that.
Start-o-meter for the last three games that we're going to preview late in the show.
That would be Detroit and Baltimore,
Philadelphia, Dallas, and Minnesota, Seattle,
which is basically just start everyone.
Start-o-meter, zero to 10.
Start of the week, Tyson Williams.
10. 20. All 20 alright I'll say 15
I'll go right in the middle Latavius Murray
2
4
and non-PPR 1 in PPR
Marquise Brown
9
alright
Sammy Watkins
4 3 in non-PPR yeah I agree Nine. All right. Sammy Watkins. Four.
Three in non-PPR.
Yeah, I agree.
DeAndre Swift against Baltimore.
Ooh.
Seven in PPR and six in non.
Okay, so based on the start-o-meter,
that means you're starting Tyson Williams over DeAndre Swift in any format.
Okay.
Jamal Williams?
Four in PPR, three in none.
Quintez Cephas?
Three.
What was that, Jamie?
A three in both.
A three in both.
All right, threes all around.
Quintez Cephas for three.
Miles Sanders at Dallas.
Six.
Seven.
6.9.
Nice.
I had a hard time really committing to seven just then,
so I'll say 6.9.
I'm struggling in one PBR league between him and James White.
That's how I feel about him right now.
I kind of like James
White. Brandon Brooks
is being replaced by a rookie
Landon Dickerson. Landon Dickerson.
So that's
going to be a downgrade.
But then Dallas is an upgrade.
Dallas is an upgrade. So
Miles Sanders or DeAndre
Swift?
Swift.
I'll say Swift over Sanders. Dallas' defense
is okay. I don't think they're necessarily...
I don't think there's...
I don't think they're as bad as
we thought they would be.
It's quite possible. Believe it or not,
even as they were getting torched by the Bucs,
I was like, I don't know that Dallas is
playing that poorly. I just think Tom Brady
is on his own. Dan Quinn, for what he did from week one
to week two, fantastic job.
Especially without Gregory and without Lawrence.
Exactly. Parsons was playing well.
Gregory's back this week.
They're not a cakewalk, but
Austin Eckler had a good game against them.
Sanders did have a good game against them.
We kept talking about how unlucky
Justin Herbert was and all the plays they left on the field. That's a good point. They should be. We kept talking about how unlucky Justin Herbert was and all the plays
they left on the field.
That's a good point.
Think about that.
Devontae Smith.
He has obviously
a great track record
against the Cowboys.
Devontae Smith at Dallas.
What's the seven?
PPR.
Seven, six.
Okay.
Dallas Goddard.
Do you care that
his name is Dallas?
Does that feel like
a homecoming game for him?
He's played the Cowboys in Dallas before.
How did he do?
You're just noticing that.
I don't know how he did, though.
They wanted to draft him, and then the Eagles
jumped them in the draft to take him.
That's the folklore
on Dallas Goddard.
He's a startable tight end. Six.
Yeah, he's...
I would say he's seven if Ertz is out,
and a six if not.
Okay, I'm going to look up his career game logs in Dallas,
just see how he does in homecoming games.
Ezekiel Elliott.
Ten.
Nine.
Tony Pollard.
Five.
Five's good.
Amari Cooper.
Ten. Ten, you're starting him. sure what about darius slay he's had pretty good history against cooper from what i i don't know are you sure that
slay is going to shadow him at all i think i
think that's got a chance to be a high scoring shootout oh i would say so and how about
oh no that's the bonanza yeah no no minnesota just so you all don't have to wait around to the end. Bonanza.
Everybody's scoring.
Huge game.
You jinxed it last week.
Your jinx was back.
Oh, my God.
How did I possibly?
That was a jinx proof game.
Dallas and the Chargers.
We were we were watching the game with our boss last week.
And I'm sitting next to him and Pete.
And he's asking about, you know, games to bet.
Oh, the over was easy.
It's so easy.
Dallas Goddard
has played three games in Dallas
and he has caught a touchdown in two of them.
So,
start of the week.
KJ Osborne, 0-10.
I'm going to say 5 in PPR
and 4 in non
this is the Vikings new slot receiver
he's been playing predominantly
in the slot, gets single coverage
has good long speed
I think he's got
I think he's got a chance here to stick around
a little. Yeah this is a beat the waiver wire guy
because we said him on Tuesday and he didn't get added enough so he's gonna have another good game potentially you
don't want to be still out there sorry to jump on you there uh i think he might be a waiver to
lineup guy if you're really hurting at wide receiver yeah absolutely my only thing is he's
on pace for i think 120 targets per 16 games and you look at the number three
receiver on the vikings no one's even come close to that in the kirk yeah but just eliminate the
tight end at this point it doesn't matter i don't get his four targets a game but they're throwing
the ball a lot they're throwing that's the thing they are throwing the ball a lot they're throwing
40 times a game but last week this defense which we thought was going to be better, is not. But they had an overtime game, and last week
they only threw 32 times,
and that was,
you know, that was the...
They played Arizona last week, right?
That was a shootout on the road in Arizona.
No, sorry. Yeah, yeah, they played...
I keep getting, like, Seattle
and Tennessee confused.
Tennessee was at Seattle and Minnesota.
Okay. Yeah, honestly, they only threw 32 times in that
game. It's fine to
speculate on him, but we've never seen
this. That's all I'm saying. We've never seen this from a number three
receiver, be it a tight end or whatever,
on the Vikings, because they're throwing more than
they ever have under Zimmer.
It's also a new coordinator.
It is. All right. Tampa Bay
at the Rams. Here we go. Finally at the games.
Jalen Ramsey shadowed Mike Evans.
73% of his routes last year when these two teams played.
And he had four catches for 40 yards.
He ended up with about 50 yards and a touchdown in that game.
The touchdown did not come on Jalen Ramsey.
The question is, what do you think Ramsey does?
He hasn't really been shadowing this year.
He didn't shadow Allen Robinson.
They're using him differently.
If you told me he was shadowing Mike Evans,
I'd be nervous.
But what do you think happens here?
And do we start Mike Evans?
I mean, you've got to be loaded to that position
to say you're benching Mike Evans.
So yes, I think he's still a start.
Because you don't think Ramsey will shadow him
or just because he's Mike Evans?
I just think the volume of passing in this game,
you know,
the,
the,
they're not going to change who they are and Brady's not going to change who
he is.
And they'll,
you know,
it's,
is he going to have a week one game?
Like,
you know,
with digs,
you know,
shadow him to what it was 73% of the time.
I think it was,
um,
something in that,
whatever next gen stats that,
um, probably he'll be in his vicinity,
but that's where Brady's got the luxury of most quarterbacks don't.
And Darius Williams is a great corner, but we'll see.
I think it makes a difference that Antonio Brown isn't there either.
In week one, Antonio Brown was available,
made it easier for Brady to just find the open guy, and frequently it was Antonio Brown isn't there either. In week one, Antonio Brown was available, made it easier for Brady to just find
the open guy, and frequently it was Antonio
Brown. This time, you might have
to throw to a guy who's tightly covered, and that would be
Evans against Ramsey,
even if it's Ramsey covering him.
That just hasn't been how the Rams have
operated so far this year.
Yeah, that's the
encouraging part, but when I look at,
for example, what marshawn latimore
usually does to mike evans and what jaylen ramsey did to mike evans last year i don't think that
he's a guy who's gonna beat jaylen ramsey if they decide to stick ramsey on him which might be an
easier call now that brown isn't playing or if brown isn't playing sorry brown might play but
seems unlikely so i don't know Makes me a little nervous about Evans.
He can get locked down by good corners.
Godwin, obviously, everybody's going to start, right?
But, you know.
Okay, so you say start Mike Evans.
So you wouldn't start Marquise Brown over Mike Evans?
No.
All right.
Which quarterback do you like better in this game?
Stafford.
Same. Okay. um which quarterback you like better in this game stafford same okay um staff okay so stafford or dak prescott that so i currently have dak ahead of stafford one of the guys i was going to look at
was dak going into the game against philadelphia And I wonder if this is just a game where the Cowboys could maybe have a
little more success running like they did last week.
And if that happens,
then Dak's numbers could suffer for now.
It's Dak.
Do you like any running backs in this Rams bucks game?
Not really.
Henderson would be a flex if he plays,
but he'd be the best one.
Four net would be a low end flex and PPR. Cause I if he plays, but he'd be the best one. Fournette would be a low-end flex in PPR
because I think he's
just their best guy no matter what
the downer distance at this point.
He's catching a lot of passes.
Maybe he can get you close to 10 PPR points
even in a game against the Rams.
This could be the first game where we see a lot of
Geo because of
no Brown if he's out and
maybe chasing the score. That's, I think,
been a big reason why we haven't seen him a lot is because
they're playing with the lead more times than not.
You saw when they needed to get down
the field at the end of the Cowboys game,
he was their guy.
To finish up our thoughts
on Brady, because I do think
a lot of people will have questions on him this week,
under the assumption that
Antonio Brown is not playing, and I don't know if I mentioned this on today's show I mentioned it on HQ
and on our live stream yesterday he played the Rams last year with Antonio Brown he had a
pretty bad game and he scored 16 fantasy points uh I'm starting Jalen Hurts over him I see you
both have Jalen Hurts ranked ahead of Tom Brady, but none of the streamers, right? Not Daniel Jones or Teddy Bridgewater or any,
or Derek Carr or anything,
right?
No,
because this should hopefully be a high scoring game.
I don't think Brady's going to fall on his face.
Yeah.
But is he going to,
you know,
I mean,
look,
we have a,
we have a benchmark now.
Is he going to be better than Sam Donald's 25?
I would say yes.
Okay.
Is it going to be as 38 average i would say no no do you want to talk
about how you would adjust your wide receiver rankings if antonio brown plays would that change
much i sure i would strongly consider brown over evans godwin will be at the top no matter what
but if anton Antonio Brown's there,
and I think there's a chance that Evans could draw some decent coverage,
whether it's Williams or Ramsey from the Rams,
then yeah, I think that there's a chance that Evans could be left high and dry.
He got fed a lot last week.
So maybe this week they lay off of him, and it might just be easier for Brady to hit those shorter targets
to Godwin and to AB.
Brown would be third for me still.
Even with him?
Even if he plays?
Okay.
Okay, Rob Gronkowski is top four for Dave and Heath,
Dave and Jamie, excuse me, and seventh or eighth for Heath.
Yeah, I don't see who's going to sit Gronkowski,
although you could have two options if you have Gronkowski.
Would you start Rob Gronkowski over George Kittle
this week? Yes.
Wow. Would you start him over
Kyle Pitts? Yes.
I'd start him over everybody except
for Kelsey Waller and Hawkinson
in PPR. Okay.
Alright. Stafford
is top 12 and
start Matthew Stafford.
He's 8th for Jamie. Oh, he's eighth for jamie oh he's eight for everybody
now how about that so just one quick point when these teams have met each of the past two years
and last time they met mcveigh had 16 running back runs called everything else was a pass it's 51
pass attempts two games ago it was 10 running back runs called and 68 pass attempts. And that was with Jared Goff.
So we know that he loves Stafford
and he's dialing up plenty of pass plays for Stafford.
It wouldn't be a surprise if Stafford threw the ball 50 times.
He's only thrown 56 passes in two games.
They're throwing the ball a lot, I guess, as a percentage.
At least if you go back to week one,
they were pretty pass-heavy until the fourth quarter
when they were killing the lead.
But they've run very few plays, and it's weird.
It's not what we usually see from Sean McVay.
So I don't know what that's all about.
It's probably just a two-game fluke.
They didn't have the ball much in week one,
but they only ran 60 plays in week two and 50 in week one.
But, I mean, that's just only Seattle and new Orleans have run fewer plays so far.
Okay.
I guess.
And plays through two weeks.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
And I'll give you an,
how many pass attempts to Stafford have?
We can see how 56.
Okay.
So that's right around 50,
50.
He may get that in this game.
Yeah.
Right.
Things should change here.
Like I said,
week one,
they were pretty pass heavy and then they just, I think Daryl Henderson had nine carries in the fourth quarter. So you would start Henderson if he plays over Fournette?
I would, yes. I think I would, too.
Interesting. Okay. I imagine there's a lot of running backs you would start over both of them anyway.
Yes.
And same with Michelle.
Okay.
Well, let's put it this way.
If Dalvin Cook is out and Henderson plays,
I would start Madison ahead of Henderson.
Agreed.
Would you start Sermon if Mitchell's out over Henderson?
I would, yes.
Yeah, I think I would.
All right.
Starter said Cooper Cupps off to somewhat of a slow start,
less than 300 yards in two games.
But what about Robert Woods?
Yes.
Big bounce back game coming.
I think so too.
Yeah.
I might put out some offers.
Tyler Higbee is top 12.
Like him,
love him.
What do you think?
Like,
I like him as well.
He's a good alternative in the,
in the quick pass game
to running the ball.
So if they're shy about running the football
like they've been over their past few meetings with the Bucs,
throwing some short passes to Higby makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, I think this might be a weak spot for Tampa Bay.
They were really bad against tight ends
in the second half of 2020.
And so far, Dalton Schultz and Blake Jarwin
combined for 65 yards,
caught all nine of their targets.
Kyle Pitts had five catches for 73
yards on six targets.
So Higby, he's still 84% roster.
Nobody freaked out. Nobody dropped him.
Very few people did anyway.
Would you start a DST in this
game?
No,
if you can avoid it.
Right, but I still have i still have the rams dst in my top 12 i don't think i'm the bucks are probably going to be really close to there yeah i've got the bucks at
14 um i got a weird feeling about the bengals dst this week i would start them over the bucks
all right hold that thought is when we come back, we're previewing Cincinnati at Pittsburgh.
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Bengals and Steelers.
Well, it'd be nice to have all the wide receivers healthy in this game.
But here's your stat of the game as it relates to Najee Harris.
The Bengals have faced two running backs, Dalvin Cook and David Montgomery.
Both of them had 20 carries for 61 yards.
Is Najee Harris a must start?
Yes.
I got him ranked that way.
It's easier to do it in PPR than non-PPR.
Frankly, I'd be a little surprised if he had 61 rush yards
just because the offensive line
has been an absolute killer for them.
We know that Roethlisberger isn't playing at 100%.
And if they don't have Deontay
Johnson, that's going to hurt them
in the passing game, too.
Could it help Najee Harris if they don't have
Deontay Johnson? If they could run the ball
effectively and have demonstrated that
within the first two weeks of the season, then I would say yes. Mike Tomlin did say we've got to run the ball effectively and have demonstrated that within the first two weeks of the season,
then I would say yes.
Mike Tomlin did say we got to run the ball better.
Yeah.
I mean, they said that a lot last year.
They said that in the offseason.
They said that in the draft.
I mean...
They said that a lot last year.
If you wish it into existence,
it doesn't mean it's going to happen.
All right, fine.
Would you start Madison or...
Obviously, if Cook is out.
Or Najee?
Najee.
I have Najee ranked higher.
All right.
I don't know how you might feel about it.
Why don't we stick with the Steelers here?
Sit Ben Roethlisberger.
He has 28 fantasy points in two games.
The Bengals' pass defense has not been so good
against Cousins and the Bears, or Dalton at least.
All right. Jamie, give me your thoughts on the wide receivers
with and without Deontay Johnson.
Johnson plays. He's still the best one.
Even if he's at less than 100%, he just gets too many targets,
and that's Ben's guy.
If Johnson is out, it's basically the same.
It's Johnson, Juju, Claypool, and then it's just Juju, Claypool,
and then don't even bother with James Washington
because I don't want to trust them um but they're like I think they're borderline starters Juju's a borderline
starter in PPR if if Deontay Johnson's out Claypool's you know probably a borderline
starter non-PPR if Johnson's out um but you know is this Ben playing possum again or is
this Ben really hurt? You know,
we just don't know. So I don't necessarily fear this Bengals defense from, you know,
a healthy Steelers offense if everybody was healthy. But if Ben is less than 100 percent,
then then, you know, what Dave said about the Bengals DST is certainly worth looking into.
And look, Chase Claypool, there were three games last year that Deontay Johnson either missed
or left very early, fewer than 25 percent of the snaps. Claypool, there were three games last year that Deontay Johnson either missed or left very early,
fewer than 25% of the snaps.
Claypool led the team in receiving in two of those three games.
He seemed to benefit.
Sure.
And Juju, I'm very concerned so far about what we're seeing from Juju because—
You mean going left and right is not the way to play wide receiver?
Somehow his ADOT is even lower than it was last year.
It's 4.5 yards.
That's his average depth of target.
So how do you make big plays
when you're getting targeted four to five yards
down the field on average?
You're supposed to break away from your tackle
and pick up yards after the catch,
and that's something that he has done in the past,
but not with regular frequency.
But this is extreme,
and it just looks like the same type of
year that he had last year, which is safe.
All they're doing is all this pre-snap stuff.
It's just like, hey, look, it's a lot of flashy
movement around. And then once the ball
snapped, it's the same thing. They put on
lipstick and eyeshadow
and it's the same offense
otherwise. That's the difference. Would you
start Marquise Brown over a Steelers
wide receiver? Yes.
Not Deontay.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, and let's now let's go to the,
to the Bengals.
So we're sitting burrow.
Dave,
you have the highest,
I think about 16th.
Sure.
I think he's absolutely worth considering.
If you've been streaming quarterbacks to begin the year,
if you're frustrated with Ryan Tannehill,
I I'd like to really use them.
If TJ watt doesn't play,
what was limited in practice so far.
So it sounds like he's going to play.
That'll hurt him.
It's still not a great offensive line in Cincinnati either, but I think he's got a chance to find a couple of touchdowns and that makes
him a decent streaming.
There's one league where I've got him and Tannehill.
I'm starting him over Tannehill.
It's been a weird start for them because the low pass attempts,
27 pass attempts in week one,
that's not something we were used to seeing from him last year,
lowest pass attempts so far.
And he got lucky if you started him last week to get you what he got you
because a lot of that came late with the turnovers from the Bears.
So if he doesn't have Tee Higgins, completely hands off Joe Burrow.
Sure, that's fair.
All right, so then, Jamie, tell me about the Bengals' wide receivers,
with and without Tee Higgins.
I mean, you're starting Jamar Chase.
I haven't seen the practice report yet for Joe Hayden.
Devin Bush is returning.
He's off the practice report, so they are getting at least one guy back there.
So that's going to be a problem a little bit for Joe Mix in the passing game
because they could
not cover anybody last
week in terms of whatever the Raiders
tried to do. Jamie, he practiced
in full. Devin Bush. No,
Joe Hayden. It's going to be a little rough
for Jamar Chase,
but you're still starting him.
And then Tyler Boyd, I think you know what you're getting at this point.
Okay.
So he's a high-end number three receiver in PPR
and a low-end number three receiver in non-PPR.
So who's the best receiver in this game if they're all healthy?
Deontay?
Deontay.
Okay.
I would go Deontay, Chase, Higgins if he plays, Juju, Claypool,
Boyd in non-PPR, and just flip-flop.
Put Boyd over Juju and Claypool, Boyd in non-PPR and just flip-flop put Boyd over
Juju and Claypool in PPR.
Okay, and then let's say
ready for this, Higgins is out,
Deontay is in. Would you start
Jamar Chase or Deontay Johnson?
Johnson.
Still Deontay Johnson, yeah.
Joe Mixon's a must
start and that would be
it. All right. Which DST do you like better
as it stands now
I believe I have the Bengals over the Steelers
yeah the Steelers
if Watt plays then that's an easy change
okay and Pat Fryermuth
is outside the top
15 but he's right
he would be a stash guy
if there weren't already six stash guys
that we've already named.
And if you're stuck and Deontay's out,
that's a guy I would look to in a deeper league.
Mm-hmm.
Because he had four catches last week.
Yeah.
He's playing more snaps than Ebron.
All right, Atlanta at the Giants.
And stat of the game.
This is one of the four teams, Atlanta,
that does not have a 40-yard pass play.
Matt Ryan's intended air yards per pass attempt is 4.3.
It has been over eight each of the previous three seasons.
Probably going back before that,
but pro football reference doesn't track it so that far back.
But he's 26th in air yards, Matt Ryan.
He's 31st in air yards per pass attempt.
It's just weird.
This is not what we usually see from the Falcons.
You guys all have Daniel Jones ahead of Matt Ryan,
right?
Speak for him.
By far.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um,
yeah.
I had Donald ahead of him.
Bridgewater's ahead of him.
I mean,
I guess in one quarterback,
at least I don't see Ryan being started a lot,
but the Giants' past defense hasn't been good.
They've been terrible on third down.
Bridgewater scored 23.
Heineke scored 23.
You know, do you have any interest?
I think Ryan can give you what he gave you last week,
which is 20 points.
Okay.
Mike Davis, Cordell or Patterson.
Start him, sit him.
Weird result last week. Davis played twoell Patterson. Start him, set him. Weird result last week.
Davis played two red zone snaps.
Cordell Patterson had the rest.
He didn't have any touches on those red zone snaps.
And Patterson, the touchdown catch was like a lucky break,
like right place, right time.
But the touchdown run that Patterson had was pretty good, actually.
So I wonder if that's going to be part of the Falcons package
when they get in the red zone moving forward,
is to pull Davis out of there.
Davis doesn't look slow.
And one of the reasons why Matt Ryan has this low average throw depth
is because he's checking down a lot, and that's helping Mike Davis a lot.
And I almost think that's what you've got to hope for
if you're starting him in PPR,
is that he continues to get a lot of these short targets.
And you hope that he breaks one of them for a decent gain.
But I don't know how he finds the end zone,
if Patterson's going to continue to work in the red zone.
I'm nervous about both of these guys.
I would prefer to not start either one.
At best, Davis would be the preferred flex over Patterson.
But it's not.
Both of them are guys that I wouldn't want to have.
Mike Davis or one of the Mileses?
The Mileses.
The Mileses.
Mike Davis or Tony Pollard?
Davis.
I would be tempted to go Pollard and non-PPR.
Ooh, wow.
Okay.
Davis still played twice as many snaps
as Cordero Patterson.
Patterson, to me, is fool's gold.
Yeah, and then it's the question
of the matchup.
Is it a tough matchup?
They've been pretty good against the run,
but not great.
I don't think it's a matchup
you have to avoid.
Oh, I would say they've been good
against the run.
They give up the one big run
to Melvin Gordon.
Yeah, after that, there's been nothing.
Yeah, I mean, Gibson was fine.
13 carries, 69 yards.
They have been good
against the run.
I don't know that they're great.
But, okay,
Calvin Ridley's a start.
Let's throw the ball
downfield already.
And Kyle Pitts.
Boy, this day,
Giants have been terrible
against tight ends.
They've given up so far
the fourth most fantasy points.
Yeah, this should be
the game for him.
He started to look
a lot better last week,
more comfortable.
Yeah, 73 yards last week on only six targets.
That's great.
And you're starting him,
but you guys are going to start Gronkowski over him.
How about Noah Fant or Kyle Pitts?
I have Pitts two spots ahead of Fant
and one spot ahead of Kittle in PPR.
All right, Daniel Jones.
Let me see the updated rankings on Mr. Daniel Jones.
13th for Jamie, 14th for Dave, and 9th for Heath Cummings.
Wow.
We're just...
You know how off-season the joke was?
Saying Daniel Jones in the subject line and Adam will read it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've had so many Daniel Jones questions this week. It's so refreshing.
Look,
the Falcons' defense, I think, we think is horrible.
They face the Eagles and
the Bucs. Both quarterbacks
that they face have had a passer rating of
126.4.
You mean Tom Brady?
Yeah. 126.4
or higher. So they've been bad.
Alright, Tell me,
you guys have a lot of faith
in Jones and Sterling Shepard to come through
this week. What about Galladay?
If he plays, yeah. I think you look at
the opportunity. This is
the perfect squeaky wheel game. He's
yelling at his offense coordinator.
Jason Garrett's had to address it.
He's needed.
The offense needs another player to step up in the passing game.
Now, it could be Ingram if he plays.
Just keep that in mind.
You know, and that could hurt Shepard for what he's gotten with 19 targets in two games.
But, I mean, obviously they need to have some better production from Gallaudet.
Kadarius Toney's getting into fights with the media.
You know, he's going to have to have something at some point as well.
So there's a lot to like about what Daniel Jones has at his disposal.
It just doesn't matter.
Can he connect with them?
The best thing about Daniel Jones is he's going to run.
Anytime you have these quarterbacks like this,
this is what makes them special as fantasy quarterbacks.
He's not going to get 95 yards.
I think he's going to get more than 27 yards.
That's been his rushing totals the last two weeks.
But the design runs.
You can't get away from that.
That's something Jason Garrett has done right.
He's getting him opportunities to use one of his strengths.
His rushing yards prop this week is 26.5 yards.
It's funny how that works.
And I think against this Falcons defense, which will play some man coverage,
that'll work in his favor.
And I'm not even sure if A.J. Terrell is going to play for Atlanta.
He had a concussion, I believe.
And so if he's out, that's their top cornerback,
and they really didn't have a real good cornerback to begin with.
He was their best guy.
That will help Galladay.
And the best part about it all is that this is the best matchup
for the Giants' offensive line so far this season.
Falcons' pass rush isn't anything dominant at all.
But this is the best matchup.
They can give Jones some time to make some throws.
And I've been of the belief all along that when Jones has time, he can
deliver a strong, accurate pass.
This is also the best matchup for the Falcons' defensive
line. They've played the Eagles with Brooks
and they've played the Buccaneers.
So we'll see
Battle of Bads here. Who wins?
Battle of the Badstards.
All right.
Battle of the Bastards.
Battle of the Bad. I said Battle of the bastards, battle of the bad.
I said,
Oh,
I see.
Yeah.
Battle of the bastards is,
is a game of thrones.
Anyway,
um,
Sterling Shepard or Mike Davis?
Shepard.
Uh,
Shepard.
Sterling Shepard.
Saquon Barkley.
I would take Shepard in full PPR.
Uh,
Shepard probably makes more sense,
but I think Barkley is going to have a breakout game too. Barkley or Tyson Williams? I would take Shepard in full PPR. Shepard probably makes more sense,
but I think Barkley's going to have a breakout game too.
Barkley or Tyson Williams?
Tyson Williams.
I've got Saquon higher.
Barkley or Najee?
Barkley. All right, you guys both have Barkley approximately 15th.
Dave a little higher, Jamie a little bit lower.
And Galladay or Claypool?
Pretty sure I've got Claypool a few spots higher.
Claypool if Deontay Johnson's out, Galladay if Deontay Johnson's in.
Okay.
I've got Galladay higher either way.
Galladay or Devontae Smith?
Smith.
Start or sit Evan Ingram?
I'm starting or sitting Evan Ingram.
If they're starting him.
I would start him over Jared Cook.
I would start him over Dallas Gowder.
I think I might.
Why would you start him over Jared Cook?
Let's talk about that. Why would you start Evan Ingram over Jared Cook?
Because I think he'll get more
targets and I think he can make more plays
after the catch when he does actually catch the football.
Whereas Cook, it just feels
like the definition of a touchdown or bust
tight end.
I'd still start Cook. Just the implied total
in that game and what he's done the first two weeks.
He should have scored last week
and had a very strong game week one.
I just think the way Justin Herbert's playing right now,
the luck's going to turn around.
That game has a much more high-scoring feel to it.
I don't know what it's going to look like,
the way Sterling Shepard's playing
and having Gallaudet and whatnot,
but Daniel Jones loves him some Evan Ingram.
They must be best friends
because Evan Ingram's let him down so many times and he just keeps throwing to
him. All right. That's Giants-Falcons.
Game of the week. Green Bay at San
Francisco. Maybe this is the game of the week.
Yeah, so I mentioned
Green Bay's run defense
been really good. One carry
of 14 or more yards, of more than 14
yards to running back in their last nine
games going back to last year and including the
playoffs. What is the game of the week? There's so
many good games. I think
it's Rams Bucks. I think it's Rams Bucks
too, but this is a good
one. Chargers Chiefs is
a good one. Sneaky one is
Viking Seahawks. That could be the most fun
game. I don't think it's that sneaky.
I think Bengals
Steelers could be a very good game.
This is a great week.
Oh, Patriot Saints.
That's, I mean, that should be your bonanza.
Ugh, that's the Costanza.
I don't know if people are aware of this.
The Saints last week were playing with their backup center on the road
without, I think, five offensive coaches.
And they were having trouble just getting the plays called.
And Jameis Winston said that he needed to speak louder at the line of scrimmage.
I mean, it was a really embarrassing operation last week.
They better clear that up or it's going to be...
Worst offensive game in Sean Payton's coaching career.
Yikes.
All right, I'm sorry, guys.
Green Bay at San Francisco.
So Green Bay is easy, right?
I mean, we talked about Rodgers.
Start Jones, start Adams.
Robert Tunyon, start or sit?
Start.
He's got 13 touchdowns in his past 19 games with Aaron Rodgers.
Touchdown or bust fantasy tight end?
Better than Jared Cook.
I know you guys love Sterling Shepard this week.
Do you like him better than Debo Samuel
in PPR? Yes, and non
PPR. No.
Oh, sorry. I didn't know if Dave was going to
chime in there. That's cool. Debo
is on fire. 189
yards and a touchdown in
the first game. He had a he had a
79 yard touchdown catch that probably should
have been about a 30-yard catch, but the defender fell down and he ran about 50 yards. But still,
he's been tearing it up. The way they use him, I don't think he's going to get shadowed by Jair
Alexander. So, I mean, do you think Debo is basically a must-start? You don't really have
it ranked that way. What do you think about Debo, Dave? I think I'm a little worried about him.
Long term,
this is a sell high, if you ask me,
because eventually when the 49ers get their run
game going, Debo Samuel's
target share will
shrink. It's going to go way down.
He's an extension of their run game
by virtue of the short targets that he gets.
And eventually,
George Kittle's going to get involved.
Brandon Ayuk, the drumbeat is getting louder for him
to start getting more involved and to play more snaps in this offense.
So I'm worried about a letdown game coming for Debo,
and it could absolutely be this week.
The one thing about him is as long as he's getting decent volume,
it really doesn't matter who he's playing against.
I don't think he's going to get shadow coverage at all,
and I don't think it would matter if he did
because so many of his targets are close to the line of scrimmage.
Okay, so Debo Samuel or Mike Davis?
Debo in PPR easily, and I'd probably take him in non-PPR as well.
I'd take him both.
Debo or Tyson Williams?
Tyson.
I'd consider Debo in full PPR.
You want to run down your thoughts
on the 49ers running backs again?
If he's in, then start him,
and if not, blah, blah.
If it's one of them,
Mitchell or Sermon,
then that player is a high-end flex.
If they're both in,
then I would say they're both mid-level flexes at best.
Jack with Mitchell better than sermon.
Sure.
Jack has Patrick is not worth starting,
but he is worth stashing.
Okay.
He's a big physical running back who ran inside zone in the XFL and you can
adapt to outside zone running pretty easily
if you know how to do inside zone my guess is that that's what he's being taught right now
all right listen if you want to hear more about Aaron Rodgers go to about the 17 to 18 minute
mark we have the uh the it's probably closer to about 20 minutes where we talked about Rodgers
but uh it was the five questions for week three. Why are people afraid of Aaron Rodgers? Turns out Heath really isn't.
He just likes the streamers a lot.
And yeah, start Rodgers,
but you might have some other options.
Like you'd start Jalen Hurts over Rodgers.
Certainly four points for passing touchdowns.
They're close in six.
Yeah, I would take Rodgers.
Okay.
So far, Jared Goff scored 34 points,
but on 57 pass attempts against San Francisco
and Jalen Hurts had a disappointing
game with 21 fantasy points, but should have had a
deep touchdown and don't
start Jimmy Garoppolo. His numbers
came with his legs, though. Just keep that in mind.
Yeah,
I did say it was just, yeah.
George Kittle, top six in both
formats. He has nine six in both formats.
He has nine targets in two games.
I think Debo has 20.
So let's get going here.
Green Bay's given up three touchdowns to tight ends so far and sit the DSTs.
All right, guys, let's go 10 minutes for our last three games.
We already talked about them earlier.
Baltimore getting a little healthier,
but I don't know that they're going to have Deshaun Elliott,
their safety.
Brandon Williams, though, their nose tackle was limited in practice.
And that's a good sign.
He left last week's game with an injury.
Stat of the game, Baltimore is giving up 2.7 yards per carry
to running backs.
So your general feelings on DeAndre Swift, Jamie?
Going to have to make plays in the passing game.
I think it's going to be a lot of garbage time as well.
I don't think they're going to have a lot of success
in the first three plus quarters probably.
That's kind of been the MO right now.
We have one productive game for this backfield,
one terrible game for this backfield,
so probably somewhere in between.
If they do the thing that teams typically do against Baltimore
is when teams are blitzing them, you throw it to your backs.
So quit this defense is worth picking up in deeper leagues.
But this is still clearly a terrible receiving core.
Like we said, going into the season, nothing's changed.
It's got worse.
So it's Hawkinson and hopefully the two guys that line up behind Jared Goff.
And that's where he's leaning.
But we're not starting Jamal Williams.
No.
I mean, his usage last week was annoying, and production was worse.
The running backs had 20 targets combined in week one
and eight targets in week two,
and they were playing from behind in both games.
So a little frustrating to see little usage from them.
Cephas ran a bunch of crossing
routes and I wonder if he was used to maybe take some pressure off of the running backs um and
honestly Cephas the the touchdown that he had broken coverage the longer play he had broken
coverage and it was a busted play anyway so I'm not as high on Cephas becoming something in this
offense other than someone who siphons targets away
from who we want them to throw to, and that's Swift and Williams.
Yeah, also keep in mind, Jared Goff threw 57 times in week one
and he threw 36 times in week two.
That's not a bad number, but you just couldn't,
you could not expect the same type of production
that you saw from the Lions running backs in week one.
Well, it's also with the way Baltimore runs the ball.
Time of possession is going to be a problem for the Lions.
Yeah, it should be.
And I guess there's good and there's bad, right?
Because they're probably going to be trailing in this game.
And three of Swift's four catches, I want to say,
came on the last drive of the game against Green Bay when it was out of reach.
He had one catch going to that drive.
He had four targets on that drive alone.
Hopefully, he gets a little more garbage time here.
Marquise Brown is off to a great start.
He is a top 30 wide receiver for you guys.
I think he's a little bit lower than that for Dave in full PPR.
But, yeah, he's tough to bench right now.
I think it's like eight games in a row going back to last year,
at least 12 PPR points.
Wow.
Yeah, he's going to be higher for me okay all right i will i will get him in my lineup let's see uh marquise brown or
deandre swift uh boy uh i think it's easy to go Brown and non PPR and half PPR.
Yeah.
And I think I'm going to take my chances with the Brown over Swift and full
PPR.
It's just,
it's just so,
you know,
the touches should favor Swift and you hope he does something with them.
Yeah.
Uh,
Mark Andrews start bounce back.
Come on.
Yes.
I hope so.
All right.
Jared golf sit.
He'll had over 70 yards receiving in week one
and Tanya scored last week against them.
So are they going to play Jamie Collins?
That's a big question.
Trying to trade him.
Doesn't sound like it.
I'm not sure.
And Baltimore's DST is top four.
Baltimore's DST was available.
You know, they got dropped.
They played the Chiefs.
So they were available.
They might be available in your league.
And finally, oh, we have two more games.
Sorry.
Philadelphia at Dallas.
And the big injuries for the Eagles, the Brandons.
Brandon Graham out for the year.
Brandon Brooks on IR.
Yeah, both are big, but the Brandon Graham injury is just absolutely huge.
So stat of the game.
Devontae Smith has a 25% target share.
That's great.
He was a dud last week,
but he still got some tar.
I think he had seven targets last week.
He had a lot of deep targets last week and they were a bunch were off target
to or under thrown.
He almost made a play on both of them.
So really good talent should get some shorter targets,
but he also has the potential to,
you know,
jailbreak one with a deep play.
This Cowboys
defense, they've allowed three 100-yard
receivers in two games, plus another
receiver with 91 yards.
Yeah. And it was the Bucs
and the Chargers, but still.
So you guys like Marquise
Brown better than Devontae Smith, right?
I think I'm going to take Smith over
Brown.
I would take Brown over Smith.
Would you start
Devante Smith or James White?
Smith.
Smith. I have that decision in
PPR and I'm starting Smith.
I like it. Devante
Smith or
Robert Woods.
There's your real laugh.
I would take my chances on Woods.
Okay, Dave, can you do the laugh
of Eric in Billy Madison?
I don't know if I can do that laugh really well.
I'll give it a shot though.
Yes, nice work that's my impersonation of uh carl impersonating eric's laugh yeah
crazy carl all right so in terms of hertz we'll come back to miles sanders in just a bit we
already talked about him a little bit but hertz dts, Dak, Cooper, Lamb,
start him.
Just start him.
Dak over Hurts as of now, but otherwise, yes.
Obviously, the Amari Cooper injury,
what could change it?
Obviously, if Cooper does...
I think you just start the Cowboys receivers as long
as they're healthy, no matter what.
Maybe I'm a little skittish about all of a sudden the Cowboys receivers as long as they're healthy no matter what I'm maybe I'm a
little skittish about all of a sudden the Cowboys realizing that they can run the football you know
Zach Martin comes back and they're they're running to the right side like bosses and we know that
Brandon Graham's out for the Eagles that might further encourage them to run the football more
and we know that it we knew it was unsustainable that Dak was going to throw 58 times every single week.
So I think they might stick with their run game a little bit more than we'd really like them to for fantasy purposes.
Okay, Tony Pollard, is he a top 30 guy this week?
No.
Yeah, because we got a lot of Pollard questions,
a decent amount on the stream yesterday.
I mean, people are high on him.
Yeah, I can't say he's top 30.
All right, Dave, go ahead.
He's not far off, though.
What?
He's not far off.
Oh, he's not top.
Sorry.
No, no.
He might not be far off from being in an even closer timeshare with Zeke.
Miles Sanders is a number two running back.
I feel like I've got to see it for a few more weeks
before I really would trust him in my lineup.
Yeah, for the record,
he scored a touchdown last week, Tony Pollard.
He scored on a jet sweep,
and Zeke was almost positive on the field,
in the backfield on that play.
And Pollard came around on the jet sweep and scored.
He's played 24% and 34% of the snaps.
You don't typically want a guy who's playing
24% and 34%. Now that keeps
going up, we can reevaluate.
Miles Sanders is a number two running back
and Dallas Goddard
is a low-end
starter.
It is interesting, though, for both of these quarterbacks
specifically.
This is the second highest
implied total of the week.
Behind Chiefs Chargers?
No.
Oh, Vikings Seahawks? No.
What? Saints Patriots?
No. Giants Falcons?
No. What am I missing here?
Packers? No.
How about Bucks Rams,
you knucklehead? No.
Really? What is it?
Ready for this one.
Bills?
No.
Olts-Kitons.
Really?
54.5.
With the backup quarterbacks?
I'll take the under there.
All right.
I guess it depends on the book you're looking at.
The one I'm looking at, that's the one that's highest.
Caesars has Chiefs-Chargers highest. I'm looking at, that's the one that's highest. Caesars has Chiefs, Chargers highest.
I'm looking at a coloring book.
Dallas Goddard or,
remember the Cowboys have been horrible
against tight ends.
Cook had a touchdown callback.
Dallas Goddard or Tyler Higby?
This one's expected to go north of 50, though.
I would think so.
All right, Goddard or Higby?
Goddard.
I think I might like Higby better.
Goddard or Tunyon?
Goddard
and PPR, Tunyon and Nunn.
Okay.
Any interest in Dalton Schultz or Blake Jarwin?
I wish
one would go get traded to another team.
Jarwin's slightly
over Schultz.
Seattle at Minnesota. Saturday game.
Number one,
Russell Wilson is seven and oh,
against the Vikings.
He has averaged just 193 passing yards per game in those seven games,
including the post season.
That's weird.
He'll throw for more than that.
In this game,
Minnesota has been terrible against Cincinnati and Arizona defensively.
Um,
but yeah,
Russell Wilson has never lost to the Vikings.
Stat of the game. Number two, Seattle allows the most Wilson has never lost to the Vikings. Stat of the game number two,
Seattle allows the most receiving
yards per game to running backs.
Three running backs have already had
six catches against them,
and they were not good in this area last
year either. They allowed 40 or more receiving
yards to six running backs and 30 or more
to 11 running backs last year.
Now, this is only relevant, I think, if you have
Madison, because obviously you're starting Cook no matter what,
but you might get some production in the passing game from Madison.
I don't really know what to...
I guess we could do some Kirk Cousins rankings,
but you're starting basically everyone.
We talked about K.J. Osborne as a decent guy to at least pick up.
I'd love him even more if Cook were out.
Okay.
Kirk Cousins or Tom Brady?
Brady.
Let's close.
Kirk Cousins or Daniel Jones?
Cousins.
Kirk Cousins.
In six points, in four points, Jones.
Jones, okay.
Yeah, he does rush for touchdowns.
That's his thing.
Kirk Cousins or Ryan Tannehill?
Cousins.
Cousins.
Stafford or Cousins or Ryan Tannehill? Cousins. Cousins. Stafford or Cousins?
Stafford.
And Metcalf?
Or rank the wide receivers, just for fun.
Lockett, Jefferson, Metcalf, Thielen.
Works for me.
Okay.
And no tight ends in this game?
I'd prefer not to, no.
Conklin, if you're desperate, I guess. return last week. Let's go. By the way, can I claim
Old Mother Hubbard
as the team name
now?
Or do you think
everybody's using that
or what?
No, you claim it.
All right.
Old Mother Hubbard.
That is mine.
Put a feather in your cap.
Okay.
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for listening
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