Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC)! Barkley, Zeke, Penny, Taysom and So Much News (12/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 17, 2021

Week 15 starts with an overtime thriller! We recap Chiefs-Chargers to kick off the show and discuss how much confidence we have in Patrick Mahomes going forward and what to make of Mike Williams at t...his point ... Updates on all of the COVID news (12:30) and just the regular injury news as well (23:00). There is a lot to consider right now and a lot in flux. We've also got Beat the Waiver Wire (28:40), One Question for Each Game (32:00) and the Startometer (37:05) for Cardinals-Lions, Falcons-49ers and Saints-Bucs ... Start or Sit for Football Team-Eagles (41:10), Vikings-Bears (51:00), Seahawks-Rams (1:00:40), Cowboys-Giants (1:08:30), Cardinals-Lions (1:14:40), Falcons-49ers (1:18:00) and Saints-Bucs (1:23:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is touchdown! Oh, he's done it again! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. What's up and happy Friday, everybody. Week 15 is underway. We had a shootout last night. It took a little while, but it became a shootout, mostly in the fourth quarter and in overtime, and I hope you have Travis Kelsey. Although I suspect a lot of people who have Travis Kelsey had a bye this week. Welcome to the show, Adam and Jamie. And this is a very small sample size, Jamie, but just looking at all of the leagues that I'm in the playoffs in,
Starting point is 00:01:54 I don't think Travis Kelsey was in any lineups. It was weird, so I'm assuming the byes. Yeah, well, you know, it could be Travis Kelsey, Andrew, could have gotten knocked out. Or just two straight games with 27 yards. That also hurts. I have Kelsey in three leagues, four leagues maybe. Only had him in one matchup last night where I was the three seed. Every other one that I have him.
Starting point is 00:02:22 No, I'm sorry. It was four leagues. One, I missed the playoffs. It was our twoQB league. And then the other three, two, I had to buy. Yeah, there you go. All right. So now we know everything about the Travis Kelsey roster
Starting point is 00:02:34 percentage from yesterday. We'll start with that game. Kansas City 34 and the Chargers 28. We are going to go through all of the COVID news and tell you how to approach it. And that's going to take us about an hour and a half. And then we won't have any time to preview the games. But if we do have time,
Starting point is 00:02:49 we will talk about Washington and Philadelphia, Minnesota, Chicago, Kirk cousins in prime time. Is that still a thing? Seattle and the Rams, Dallas and the giants, Arizona,
Starting point is 00:03:01 Detroit, Atlanta, San Francisco. And last game for me, I think is new Orleans, Tampa Bay, because even though there are some interesting decisions, I think, is New Orleans, Tampa Bay, because even though there are some interesting decisions in that game, you're going to start Mike Evans and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:03:10 and then we'll talk about it. But all right, let's... One pretty big player that is concerning for a lot of people. Who, Hill? Yeah. Yeah, we'll definitely get to that. And Fournette, not practicing. And what would it mean for Ronald Jones if Fournette is out?
Starting point is 00:03:28 It is the toughest matchup, you know. But, I mean, yes, it's tough. But you're banking on this offense being this offense. Look at this comment about Daryl Williams. Oh, man. Somebody is so mad. Started Daryl Williams using some expletives. Well, you should have started Daryl Williams. Oh, man. Somebody is so bad. Started Darrell Williams. Using some expletives.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Well, you should have started Darrell Williams. I started Darrell Williams in a league where we play three receivers, two running backs, and two flexes. And so, I was hoping he scored, and he nearly did twice. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, it actually was a bad game for Clyde Edwards-Ziller. He lost the goal line work. I don't't know if he ever had it but he didn't get it last night let's start with a few
Starting point is 00:04:09 after the the second failed attempt he was in on the second down and third down true yes yes he was yes he did that is a good point um donald parham parham left in the first quarter that was uh scary and hopefully he's okay head injury derwin james left in the first quarter. That was scary. And hopefully he's okay. Head injury. Derwin James left in the fourth quarter. Oh my gosh. Did you see the stats for Kelsey with him without Derwin James? Uh, I'm going to guess they're probably pretty good without.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah. I retweeted it from Bill Barnwell. I'll tell you in a second. It could be coincidental, obviously, but, uh, let's go through that. So Kelsey with Derwin James James that's the charger safety on the field one catch for 14 yards 26 snaps Kelsey without James on the field nine catches for 177 yards two touchdowns 41 defensive snaps uh it's pretty wild all right anyway um any major takeaways from this game welcome back chiefs uh you know Great to see Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey and Patrick Holmes
Starting point is 00:05:06 all have a great game on the same day. Well needed at the right time for a lot of people. I'm sure a lot of people that didn't make the playoffs as a result of the recent struggles, probably saying, where was this for the last month and a half, basically. But great to see, and hopefully it continues. I mean, got a little scared with Tyree kill when he was off the field, the start of overtime,
Starting point is 00:05:26 but came back in and had, I think one catch, maybe two. Yeah. And you know, if the trade-off is we lose Clyde Edwards, a layer of Daryl Williams producing to get my homes, Kelsey and Hill.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I think most people would take that 10 out of 10, even if you're the Clyde Edwards, a layer and Daryl Williams, fantasy manager. Got an email from a man named Chris who wrote, can we finally acknowledge what we've been seeing most of the season? Mahomes is absolutely worthless. How long do we have to keep pretending he's good?
Starting point is 00:05:54 The subject, by the way, was Mahomes' trash. Not long after, he wrote us another email, ignore the Mahomes email, winky face. But darned if it wasn't a stressful first three quarters. Agreed. So that is my question here because he looked terrible, I thought. And I had defended him on the live stream yesterday, Mahomes. It wasn't like he was playing poorly per se.
Starting point is 00:06:17 He just was very conservative. They were taking away the big play. A lot of drops by the receivers over this last six, seven games, I mean. But I thought he actually played poorly yesterday. Off target, the throw to Hardman when he was wide open for a touchdown, he didn't get a good grip on it, kind of spiked it. The interception to the defensive lineman was bad. So I think if you stopped watching at the start of the third quarter
Starting point is 00:06:38 when they had 13 points, none of this optimism exists. Are you convinced after one quarter and then a drive in overtime that the Chiefs are, I don't know if they're back, but that they're absolute must-starts, no-brainers? My thought was, wow, we're going to say
Starting point is 00:06:55 this is finally the time where we're sitting Mahomes next week. And that's obviously not the case anymore. I don't think anybody was ever gonna get to that point of sitting at home you know it like because here's the thing if you're winning in spite of him this is always the potential so i guess but do you feel good about him right now i feel much better about him right now than i do than i did you know 48 hours ago okay i feel much better about them finally showing you that they're capable of this still, you know, not that I didn't think they could,
Starting point is 00:07:26 but at least they showed it to you. You know, so the, they're, they're playing for the one seat, you know, they're, they have a big opportunity in front of them. And I think, you know, the, the hope would be, and part of this, I think I, I guess let me backtrack for a second. I think part of this is tied into what happened on the other side of the ball. Missing three defenders, this is the worst defense we've looked in the last six weeks. The Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And they hung in there for a while. What do you mean? It was 14-13 going into the fourth quarter. Now they had a lot of fourth down stops that could have given up a lot more points. Oh, this game could have been a rout if they converted those red zone opportunities. But,
Starting point is 00:08:10 I think that's part of it is that they were forced into this situation offensively. Right. So, if Chris Jones comes back next week, if Chris Jones and Snead are back next week
Starting point is 00:08:21 and they're facing Pittsburgh, Right. But, again, it's just a matter of can they do this without the chasing points scenario? And so I guess that's probably the bigger question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:35 This felt like 2020 Chiefs, 2019 Chiefs, where teams were you know, remember how they used to just let you run on them? Sure. Yeah. And that's what the Chargers did. They ran on them. And then it was, okay, we know we're going to. It was basically like, you know how you mentioned this yesterday,
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think, with the Patriots? That's kind of how their defense always felt was, we'll let you run between the 20s, but we'll stop you in the red zone. Not to the same success as the Patriots, but that's kind of how it was. You can run, think you're going to kill a clock on us, kick field goals, and then we're going to score big plays on you. And so that's kind of how it felt a little bit. Mahomes scored 35 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Herbert scored 36. I think it was a frustrating game just to watch because I really felt like the Chargers should have won that game. Oh, absolutely. And they blew it. And I almost feel like the Chiefs passing game, except for Hill, didn't really deserve the numbers. You know, Kelsey, I can't say he got lucky.
Starting point is 00:09:30 The one play, the 69-yard catch, just the guy fell down and Kelsey took advantage. But look, I'm glad it happened. Obviously, you want to see these guys come through. It was just, I wasn't rooting against the Chiefs. I like the Chiefs. I don't know. It's just something left a bad taste in my mouth
Starting point is 00:09:43 about this game. I guess it was just the Chargers falling all over their face on fourth down every time. But on the Chargers side, look, don't be concerned about Eckler. Obviously not 100%. You don't see him play 34% of the snaps and have Jackson and Kelly have
Starting point is 00:09:57 that kind of role. So he's fine. And Herbert probably played better than his numbers. Jamie had some touchdown opportunities that didn't go his way. Oh, Mike Williams, what a frustrating night. That's the one guy we should probably talk about here. I ended up having to start him
Starting point is 00:10:13 because I just was looking at all this COVID news and I just said, I got to take a guy that I know is playing. Yep. And a great history against this team. Right. And so many opportunities. That first drive.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. First drive. Three opportunities in the end zone. One wasn't his fault. One was a bad throw. One hit him right in the chest. Tough ball. That was a fast ball.
Starting point is 00:10:37 That was a heater, though, that one in the chest. That was like a hump. You got to catch that, though. I think you got to catch that ball. Your job. I mean, you know, this is a separate conversation. Those plays are costing him millions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:50 He's a free agent. I don't know if he's healthy because the guy just cannot separate. He is never open. He's always covered. And he has to catch a big pass. You think of him as a burner like that? No, but I mean, he's got to be better than this. I've been watching his targets lately,
Starting point is 00:11:06 going back and watching the tape or the film, whatever it is. He just doesn't separate. And you know what? You're annoyed about the first drive. I'm annoyed about the last drive. He's streaking up the field. Turn around. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Turn around. I can't trust him. All right well i i i had the same thing you know i was looking at my lineup and i'm like i got sony michelle what happens if henderson plays um there's a flex flex spot i had uh ronald jones available on waivers i want to wait that out um there was you know a couple i remember all the decisions elijah mitchell i think was another player and i was like you know'm just going to take my chances. I had read a blog, a Chargers blog, about Mike Hughes. And if they get matched up against each other,
Starting point is 00:11:51 it's a great situation for Williams. That's who was covering him in the first game when he went off against them in week three or four, whatever it was. Yeah, Hughes covered Keenan Allen, I think. I think he played a lot in the slot. Yeah, no, it was Ward and I forget the other corner. Baker a little bit, maybe.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It was a good gamble. Had it gone a different way, you're obviously smiling. It could have been a good game. He got nine targets, but it's tough to trust him. Next week, they're at Houston, which you say, oh, great, Houston. Well, teams just run all over Houston. I don't know, you're getting 38 pass attempts. Maybe. The Chargers don't run a lot to begin with.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So we reassess, but I think number three receiver at best, right? Yep. Alright, we'll talk more about this game at noon on CBS Sports HQ today, on Friday, but also on Sunday, 10am to 1pm Eastern. It is your pregame show to help you get ready for the
Starting point is 00:12:46 fantasy playoffs. And talk about Saturday games a little bit. We've got a couple of Saturday games. That'll be fun. Although I wouldn't mind seeing one of those games get moved to Sunday or Monday. And if you are listening... So anyway, again, that's CBS Sports HQ, 10 a.m. Eastern to 1 p.m.
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Starting point is 00:13:15 on the COVID list. Now, the NFL is making an attempt to change the protocols. They've changed the protocols to give players a better chance of getting back on the field. It's a mess right now. But the big ones, Jalen Waddell,
Starting point is 00:13:32 Tyler Lockett, Allen Robinson, Baker Mayfield and Case Keenum, some of this is old news, I guess, Odell Beckham, Daryl Henderson. There are more. All the Dolphins. Yeah, the Dolphins running backs are still on it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 They had another one. Yeah. They did. Not one we were considering. Jared Doakes. Well, Heath and Dave were kind of excited about it. Were they? Yeah. Doakes always makes me think of Dexter. For all you Dexter fans out there. And there's a lot more. But let's start with Waddle.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And Hooper, too. Yeah, Hooper. Njoku's off the list. Although, right, I was going to say, at this point, Hooper, you can stay if you have Dave Njoku. I mean, obviously I'm joking, but it alleviates, it helps us to have one of those guys. But how much faith are you going to have in Njoku
Starting point is 00:14:21 if he's in on Saturday in a great matchup, but with bad weather probably and Nick Mullins? So my choices were, as a Darren Waller manager, David Njoku or Tyler Higby. And so I would take my chances with David Njoku, knowing that the Rams COVID situation is a little bit messy also. And so if he plays, I would start him even with Nick Moles. But look, you mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:14:51 We could get to Saturday and Baker's clear. That is true. He's very mean to the NFL, so I don't know. He was a little upset. Devontae Parker, totally must start now? Yes, 100%. Okay. We're going to do this as if these players are not coming back.
Starting point is 00:15:08 That's what would normally happen in a typical week with the old protocols. Guys that go on the COVID list, they have not typically been coming off until the following week, even if they're vaccinated. But things could change. There was some confusion. I still don't even know, to be honest with you, if this is taking place this week or next week.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I think it's immediate. I thought so as well, but I've seen some different opinions on that. Okay. Tyler Lockett on the COVID list. Also Alex Collins. But DK Metcalf, basically every wide receiver is either on the COVID list or hurt. But Lockett's on the COVID list. Metcalf hasn't been practicing.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Swain hasn't been practicing. Swain. Right.alf hasn't been practicing. Swain hasn't been practicing. Swain. Right. Eskridge. Just to go back from yesterday's show where I said Metcalf was a sit. Obviously, if Lockett does not play, Metcalf is no longer a sit. Would you start Parker or
Starting point is 00:15:58 Metcalf in this scenario? I'll probably reevaluate that. I think initially I put Metcalf ahead, but he's going going to, I mean, he's going to get pepper with targets. You'd think so. And I think if Ramsey plays,
Starting point is 00:16:11 that would be interesting, you know, see if Ramsey comes off the COVID list. Will they change their approach and just make him shadow? So they did. The reason why I was, I was telling people to sit Hopkins last week is because I really felt Ramsey was going to shadow him. And I felt that way because he shadowed Adams more so than I think
Starting point is 00:16:32 any other wide receiver. And that was the Rams previous game, Devante Adams. Ramsey was on him quite a bit. So I thought, all right, maybe they're going to actually use Ramsey in that, you know, when there's one clear wide receiver to shadow. And I think if Locke gets out, it would make a lot of sense. But yeah, the target, there's no way I could sit Metcalf if Locke gets out. How about Allen Robinson? This could be a big deal for Mooney against a team
Starting point is 00:16:58 that gives up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. I liked Mooney regardless, so it didn't really change my opinion of this because Robinson has been such a non-factor, whether or not playing or even last week. So I didn't move Mooney at all unless it was like, you know, take, I guess he moved up a little bit like taking Tyler Lockett out, you know, so and waddle out. So he moved up maybe a spot or two, but he was always on the cusp of a top 24 receiver
Starting point is 00:17:20 for me. So he may have crept into the top 24, but I like the setup a lot. I just think that the Vikings secondary has shown you enough cracks that he would have some success this week. For sure. And then the non-skill position players, you look at the Washington front four
Starting point is 00:17:36 and the backups in there, they're decimated. Yep. And the Cleveland secondary decimated. And by the way, Daryl Henderson and Odell Beckham, I think I mentioned those. So, but you know, Derek Carr,
Starting point is 00:17:52 are you any more interested? It is really bad for the Cleveland secondary right now. And that's a Saturday game. So Derek Carr on Saturday and then yeah, the Eagles will be in a good spot on Sunday. But what do you think about Carr? Can we give him a look? I mean, he can, but this is not the environment
Starting point is 00:18:09 where he typically does well. It's cold weather. It's windy. I think this is a running game for both these teams. Jacobs will get a lot of opportunities because this is the type of game script where he typically has success. And he'll be involved in the passing game, so maybe there's some cheap opportunities there for Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:18:25 But his numbers without Darren Waller have just been bad. It's 4 of 5 or 3 of 4, whatever it is, with under 20 fantasy points. And so he's just been struggling. The one game which was the surprise was the Dallas game. And that was the game where Waller got hurt. Yeah, he had that big play from Deshaun Jackson. Yeah, you had that big play from Deshaun Jackson. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so the Giants, two defensive backs are on the reserve COVID list.
Starting point is 00:18:52 One of them is going to miss the game anyway, Adoree Jackson. But Xavier McKinney, that'd be a huge loss for them. Looks like he has a good chance to play. Starting safety for them, probably their best. I don't know, he's very good. But he's unvaccinated, but he's a close contact. Didn't test positive. Could return on Saturday. For Chicago, Eddie Jackson and Eddie Goldman, two key members on their defense,
Starting point is 00:19:10 are on the reserve COVID list. So is Mario Edwards, who's kind of a rotational player, pass rusher. Oh, this is a big one. Kenny Clark is out for the Packers. He is a huge part of their defense. Defensive tackle. He's the key to their run defense,
Starting point is 00:19:28 so that helps Freeman, right? That's another one, yeah. So yesterday I had said Devontae Freeman, I didn't love him. That changed it entirely. Not that Freeman's a guaranteed slam dunk top 15 guy, but he's back in the top 20 for sure. What about the Lions running backs right now? How do you have it ranked? Reynolds and nobody else.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So Williams plays, it changes things. But as of now, you got to go with Reynolds as a flex. Okay. Reynolds or Rashad Penny? Oh, Penny still. Okay. Especially with Alex Collins out.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah. Cincinnati cornerback Chidobe Awuzie is on the reserve COVID list. He's been a pretty key player for them. And we don't think it'll matter this week. I'm sure. I'm not pulling a sudden little crack 40 yards. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Rodney Hudson, center for the Cardinals. He is on the reserve COVID list facing the Detroit Lions. That's a big situation there because you got the running back concerns. Like, how much can Chase Edmonds succeed, potentially, if there is no Connor.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah. I'll tell you, I mean, not to talk about my own teams here, but I have Edmonds on two teams and if Edmonds plays and Connor doesn't, I will easily start him over Rashad Penny and Michael Carter for that matter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah, no, a hundred percent. Yeah. So what if they both play? Um, I would start Penny over Edmonds then in your situation. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:20:49 But I would still start Connor. You think Connor would still get his typical workout? Yeah, I mean, the only concern would be is that they should win this game easily. And so will they consider resting? They've shown you. They've kind of tipped their hand with injuries, right? I mean, you know, Kyler probably could have played through the ankle injury and they rested him. Hopkins probably could have played through the hamstring injury, but they
Starting point is 00:21:07 rested him. And so, you know, they're not opposed to that right now. Now, granted, they were doing that with an advantage of holding on to the one seed. But now that they are in the fight for it, maybe these guys play a little bit more in these concerns. But clearly they shut down Hopkins, which turned out to be maybe not coming back to the playoffs. All right. This holiday season, the best deal in wireless is at Mint Mobile. Right now, when you switch to Mint Mobile and buy any three month plan, you'll get another three months for free. As the first company to sell premium wireless service online only, Mint Mobile lets you save a ton with phone plans starting at just $15 a month. Take advantage of this limited time holiday sale and get any three-month Mint Mobile plan plus three more months free at mintmobile.com.
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Starting point is 00:22:44 What's your favorite Ryan Reynolds movie? My favorite Ryan Reynolds movie is Adventureland, starring Jesse Eisenberg. Yeah, that was a good one. Have you seen Just Friends? He has a, what is it? Not starring role. What do they call it?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Supporting? Supporting role, yes. He's a supporting actor in that movie. Very, very well done. My favorite starring role of Ryan Reynolds they call it? Supporting? Supporting role, yes. He's a supporting actor in that movie. Very well done. My favorite starring role of Ryan Reynolds has got to be Deadpool. Oh, I've never seen that. What? I know, I know, I know. I want to.
Starting point is 00:23:14 It's so funny. I've heard. He's awesome. Yeah, he is. He's in Guardians of the Galaxy, right? He is not in Guardians of the Galaxy. What is he in? Oh, I'm thinking of Chris Pratt. They kind of are similar. Just Friends, have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yes, he's great in that fat suit, yes. Just Friends is awesome. Great holiday movie. Yeah, no, he's good. All right, everybody. Let's give you some more news and notes in case the COVID list wasn't enough. Not my favorite topic, not the most exciting stuff, but obviously very important.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Leonard Fournette mispracticed with an ankle injury. They faced the Saints on Sunday night. They don't have Giovanni Bernard, so maybe you would get the passing downs roll from Ronald Jones. So if Ronald Jones were to start, where would he be ranked? Top 20. I think, again, you look at this offense and, you know, you buy into what Leonard Fournette
Starting point is 00:24:09 has been doing and then you just downgrade it, you know, probably by like 20 or 30%, but still starting running back. So starting caliber running back. So I would probably start Ronald Jones over Ezekiel Elliott over, over maybe, no, no, I was gonna say maybe the Cardinals running backs, just knowing that they're going to split it, but it's Detroit.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But I would probably, I mean, I'd start him over Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon. Wow. Or Devontae Freeman. Man, that's a lot of faith in him, because Fournette's only bad game, I'd say, since he became the feature back, was against the Saints. He ran horribly. And Zeke,
Starting point is 00:24:54 Jamie, Zeke said it's the best he's felt. Another week. I'll tell you what, Leonard Williams will sway a lot of this. Williams is trying to play with one arm. He shouldn't sway that much. Their run defense stinks anyway. You take him out of that though. It's even worse. It is much worse.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Aaron Jones mispractice. Right now I think we expect him to play but he was out yesterday. Elijah Mitchell. I'll tell you what. I would like it if he's out. I'm sure a lot of people would. Elijah Mitchell has not practiced so he's still in the concussion protocol. David Montgomery mispract practice with an illness.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Marquise Brown, same thing. Green Bay left tackle David Bakhtiari was in pads. They really could use some help on the offensive line. TJ Hawkinson out for the season. What a bummer. Right now, I think he's the number seven tight end in PPR. That's not per game, but he actually has been okay. Minnesota is hopeful that Adam Thielen will play.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Lamar Jackson mispracticed. What about Lamar Jackson right now? Doesn't sound good. I mean, we'll obviously probably have a better indication on the mailbag show, because we'll find out if he practices or not by then, but I think there was the NFL Network report, Mike Garofalo, saying that they were
Starting point is 00:26:02 hoping Thursday he would return, and the fact that he didn't return on Thursday is a bad sign Terry McLaurin did position drills he's making good progress JD McKissick not quite as optimistic there he's still missing practice Darren Waller's out David Njoku is in Kareem Hunt is out Javante Williams missed practice he's expected to play Steelers defense getting healthier in this game against Tennessee. TJ Watt, Alex Highsmith, Robert Spillane all practiced in full. Joe Hayden was limited. That's good news. Good to see him back out there. Josh Allen
Starting point is 00:26:31 was limited, but he's expected to play against Carolina. Starla Tulale, defensive tackle, key player for the Bills. He was limited in practice as he tries to come back from an absence. Jalen Hurts, Jordan Howard, Miles Sanders, all limited. Same with Damian Harris. Are you assuming that Howard,
Starting point is 00:26:48 Sanders, and Harris and Damian Harris play? I think you have to at this point. The nice thing about the Patriots situation is you'll know Saturday, so that will impact your decisions for Sunday. But you obviously have to pay attention because it's a night game on Saturday. So don't forget about that.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But if Harris plays, I think I give him a slight nod over Ramondre Stevenson. But it's so tricky because Stevenson has been practicing all week and seemingly the healthier of the two. And if you look at the projections on our site from Sportsline, they like Stevenson better. So it's really one of those decisions where it's probably going to be whoever scores the touchdown of the two. Because last time we saw them, Stevenson got a lot of work against Buffalo. In terms of the Eagles, yes, I'm expecting them all to play. So I would rank them Sanders one, Howard two,
Starting point is 00:27:35 and probably avoid the other two in terms of Scott and Gainwell. But Howard, I think, has some flex appeal because of all the injuries in Washington. Sanders has starting appeal as a number two option. And then I almost feel like at this point, I would like the Eagles to rest Jalen Hurts one more week, and then fantasy managers can maybe pivot to Gardner Minchu as a streamer, because we saw against a team that you can run against
Starting point is 00:27:59 when he started against the Jets. He still got you 22 fantasy points, and I think he could be in that range once again. Yeah, and I think he could be in that range once again. Yeah, and I think Hurts is really tough. I think he's one of the toughest players. If I were ranking, he'd be one of my toughest players to rank. I mean, start
Starting point is 00:28:14 and sit decisions, he's going to be a real challenge for me. If he were fully healthy, I'd be very confident. Washington has no defensive players, and they give up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Adam, I went into the week with Jalen Hurts as the start of the week. I was writing it. and they give up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Adam, I went into the week with Jalen Hurts as the start of the week. Oh, there you go. I was writing it.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I usually write this Wednesday. And, you know, it's my entire day. It's, you know, I mean, you see, anybody reads it sees how long it is. So it's a bear to write. And I save the start of the week for the end because we send out the positions throughout the day. And so Jalen Hurts the entire day was,
Starting point is 00:28:45 okay, start of the week. And then I'm reading practice reports as I'm writing it, you know, and I usually try to get it to our editors by around five o'clock. Um, and it's like four 55 and I still haven't started writing yet. And I'm reading all these practice reports about Jalen Hurts, about splitting reps and how he says it feels. I'm like, I can't make him start of the week. I'm going to, you know, what am I doing here? You know? So, um, you know, made the decision to go with James Robinson. And it was, you know, worked out, obviously, from the Urban Meyer standpoint. But I loved Jalen Hurts this week and still do if he plays. But, you know, the fact that he's not 100% is trouble.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And your James Robinson pick looks even better. Daryl Bevel gave him a vote of confidence, said he is the starter and will be treated as such. Josh Reynolds was limited with a thigh injury. Riley Reif, right tackle for the Bengals. He is out this week at Denver. All right, let's do beat the waiver wire. I'm just going to refer back to my Tuesday notes from the waiver wire show, and I'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:29:39 the quarterbacks you could be looking at, I think Tua. Tua at the Saints if he's still available. Taysom Hill if anybody drops him or something like that. Ben Roethlisberger's at Kansas City. It's not great. It's not great. Cam Newton against Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:29:59 What's that? Yeah, Week 16. So it's not bad, but I don't think you want to trust Matt Ryan against Detroit or anything like that. If you want a tight end, Evan Ingram is at Philadelphia. Noah Fant is at Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:30:13 They are horrible against tight ends. Cole Komet is at Seattle. They are horrible against tight ends. CJ Uzama against Baltimore. They are horrible against tight ends. Brevin Jordan against the Chargers. They are horrible against tight ends. Brevin Jordan against the Chargers. They are horrible against tight ends, especially if Derwin James doesn't play.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And James O'Shaughnessy at the Jets. Those are the tight ends who have the best matchups. Ingram, Fant, Komet, Uzama, Brevin Jordan, and James O'Shaughnessy. Most likely, if you're stashing anyone, it's going to be a DST. And you could look at the Falcons against Detroit. You could look at the Jaguars and Jets game and see if you want someone there. The Chargers, oh, you can't stress them anymore, but they're at Houston.
Starting point is 00:30:49 The Eagles. The Eagles are a great choice. First of all, this week you can use them, and then next week they have the Giants, and then the following week they have Washington again. Yep. Seattle against Chicago, Denver at Las Vegas, and the Dolphins at the Saints.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Some good DSTs. If you don't want to stash one, there should be plenty on the waiver wire, I think, especially when we're talking about only four teams. If you have a buy, you should be picking up the Eagles. Yeah, pick up the Eagles for sure. And I don't know if there are any other players that were last week's Rashad Penny,
Starting point is 00:31:18 other than handcuffs. I can't really think of anybody who could take over the starting role anymore. You should probably pick up Ronald Jones just in case Fournette re-aggravates his injury during the week. How about Malcolm Brown? I'm sorry. How about Malcolm Brown?
Starting point is 00:31:36 I guess, but I mean, I would imagine if everybody's healthy, it's still Gaskin's job, and you're hoping for Malcolm Brown to fall into the end zone if he's the second guy. What were you going to say about the Bears? Well, David Montgomery showed up with an illness. So did Khalil Herbert. So who knows what that means.
Starting point is 00:31:51 It's non-COVID related, but still, you could look at Khalil Herbert just in case something happens to David Montgomery. Jordan Howard is under-rostered to me. He's 22% rostered. Jordan Howard is a very good call, yes. I would also say you might want to, if you have a roster spot, a deeper league and he got dropped,
Starting point is 00:32:10 maybe Zach Moss. Because last time they played the Patriots, remember it was a bad weather situation, they did elevate him. If they go back to him at any point, maybe in the final two games of the season. And there are a lot of wide receivers that are out there.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Maybe Rondale Moore gets an uptick with Hopkins out for the year. He's 38% rostered. Will Fuller, 22%. I don't know if you want that. But Alan Lazard, 18%. Josh Reynolds. Well, how about St. Brown?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Where's Amandra St. Brown? He is 45% rostered. There's some guys. Jacoby Myers, 54%. Okay, anyway. Let's go to one question for each game. Start getting into the slate. Seven NFC home games.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Washington, Philadelphia. Who is the best running back in this game? The best running back in this game, for me, will be Miles Sanders if he's healthy and then Antonio Gibson. I'm so concerned about Gibson. This is a... Let me change it, as a matter of fact. I should have put him as a like-but-don't-love guy
Starting point is 00:33:15 for today's show. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just nervous. You know, if McKissick plays, it doesn't seem that way, then you lose potential passing downs work, but the fact that McKissick plays doesn't seem that way then you lose you know potential passing downs work but uh fact that McKissick is uh still not clear the concussion protocol is a good sign for Gibson but I mean this is a rest of defense coming off a bye uh
Starting point is 00:33:34 they've been you know good at times against the run I think this is going to be uh a banged up Taylor Heineke for sure maybe no Terry McLaurin they're going to be on the defense is going to be on the field all day. That's the problem. The time of possession. The Eagles have been dominating with that. They have not given up more than eight non-PPR fantasy points to a running back in six straight games.
Starting point is 00:33:56 That's when they went to their run-heavy, control-the-clock offense. And only one running back has more than 12 PPR fantasy points in those six games. That was Ingram, and he had 14. It's been a terrible matchup for running backs. How about Minnesota-Chicago? Do you trust David Montgomery, assuming he plays?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Monday night, do you trust David Montgomery? Yes. I think you saw his work in the passing game against Packers was good from Justin Fields, so I hope that will continue. Yeah, I don't think he's a number one running back, but I think he's a safe number two guy. Seattle and the Rams. How are we feeling about Rashad Penny?
Starting point is 00:34:29 I feel better that Alex Collins is not going to play, or at least trending in that direction. We'll find out what they do with Peterson. Sounds like he will play. But I think, you know, you saw the upside for what Penny can be. And I'll see if I can find it as the show goes on or when we get to that game. There was a pretty good stat about what he does.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I mean, I can probably just look it up. What he does in games where he has 10 plus carries. It's been like fantastic production. I can't imagine getting less than 10 carries this week. So, you know, if that workload holds, he's got a chance to be successful. Dallas and the Giants. Zeke or Barkley? Zeke. Barkley? Zeke.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Barkley. Zeke. Barkley. Probably Zeke. Barkley makes me so nervous. Yeah. Are they ahead of Rashad Penny? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:18 How many good running backs are there this week? Three. Arizona and Detroit. More than played last night. Who is the best wide receiver in the Arizona-Detroit game? Best wide receiver in the Arizona-Detroit game.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I have it ranked right now. Non-PPR, Kirk, Monroe-St. Brown, A.J. Green. In PPR, I think I have it ranked Monroe-St. Brown, Kirk, A.J. Green. In PPR, I think I have it ranked. The Mount Rush, St. Brown, Kirk, A.J. Green. That is wild.
Starting point is 00:35:51 St. Brown ahead of those. It's not that wild, I guess. But I don't know if I can do it. Are you telling me with any certainty who's going to be the best Cardinals receiver this week? No, definitely not. I think Kirk is sort of becoming big player bust, and Green has crushed him in red zone targets this year.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So I'd probably lean Green, but no, I can't tell you with certainty. I'm just worried about St. Brown having, you know, a 30-yard game. It might be a 30-yard game, but it'd be nine catches for 30 yards. That could be. I mean, no, Hawkinson certainly helps him right now. Still no sign of Swift. So I
Starting point is 00:36:32 think that, you know, that makes sense. There's a safety thing there. Atlanta, San Francisco. Russell Gage or Brandon Ayuk? Brandon Ayuk. And New Orleans, Tampa Bay. Would you start Mike Evans, given his terrible history against the Saints in the Marshawn Lattimore era he has one game in nine tries with more than 13 PPR fantasy
Starting point is 00:36:56 points one game incredible uh Mike Evans yes I still trust Okay. How about Taysom Hill? I have a really tough call to make, and I think this is something probably a lot of people are dealing with. Do you trust Cousins in a primetime game? Do you trust Russell Wilson without Tyler Lockett? Do you trust Tua Tungvaluwa without Jalen Waddle? Or do you trust Taysom Hill against that defense? And so the way I have it ranked right now is Cousins to Taysom Wilson.
Starting point is 00:37:30 And so all from, I think, nine through 13. Okay. That's tough. So that's going to bring us to our games now. Look, this is almost 37 minutes in and we haven't gotten to a game yet because of all the COVID news. I'm going to do the start-o-meter here for the last three games we're going to get to, which might not be until
Starting point is 00:37:50 the games start on Sunday. Arizona and Detroit. Kyler Murray, 0-10. 9. James Conner, if he plays. 9. Chase Edmonds, if Conner plays. 5. Chase Edmonds if Connor plays? Five.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Chase Edmonds if Connor's out? Nine. AJ Green, Christian Kirk? Eight for Kirk, seven for Green. Ertz? Six. How about Craig Reynolds?
Starting point is 00:38:23 Four. Reynolds or Chase Edmonds if Connor plays? Edmonds. In PPR, Reynolds or not. How about St. Brown? Obviously you like a lot. Josh Reynolds? Five.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Cardinals DST? Ten. Atlanta and San Francisco. Matt Ryan? How about our friend Jay Darindarst asking about the Raiders DST or the Cardinals DST? No, I get it. We both said Cardinals. But where'd you end up with the Raiders DST?
Starting point is 00:38:53 13, I think. Okay. Atlanta, San Francisco. Matt Ryan. Two. Cordaro Patterson. He's an interesting beat-the-waver-wire guy against the Lions. Yeah. Cordaro Patterson. He's an interesting beat-the-waver-wire guy against the Lions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Cordaro Patterson. 15. Yeah, this... He comes through every week, so he's a must start. He can't. I mean, it's a question of start or succeed. Start, he's 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Succeed, you know, probably an eight. It's just he's not getting catches anymore. He's strictly a running back. He had targets last week, though. I hope so. The Niners' run defense has been very good. Who else in this game? Mike Davis. Mike Davis is a 4. Russell Gage.
Starting point is 00:39:40 7. Mike Davis or Craig Reynolds? Reynolds in non-PPR. Davis PPR gauges a seven Kyle Pitts oh boy um what'd I say for Earths a six uh five Garoppolo Five. Jeff Wilson. Four. Deebo Samuel. Fifteen. Ayuk. Eight.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Deebo Samuel and Patterson are basically running backs now. Oh, I mean, I've been saying it all week. That's a Spider-Man meme. They're going to look at each other and go, Hey, look. Kittle is a 15. New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Taysom Hill. Seven. Wow, at Tampa Bay. Taysom Hill. Seven.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Wow, that's high. That's high. Okay, how about Camara? You know what's going to happen. He's going to have probably 13 to 15 fantasy points going into the fourth quarter. Going into the last drive. Maybe going into the last drive. He'll have a turnover. No, in the fourth quarter. Going into the last drive. Maybe going into the last drive.
Starting point is 00:40:45 He'll have a turnover. No. In the fourth quarter, he'll have a turnover to drop him down. I'm going to say he has 15 points going into the fourth quarter. He'll have a turnover to drop him down to 13 points. And then he will have a touchdown drive that he scores somehow, throwing or rushing. And he gets to 20 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Okay. How about Kamara? 20 fantasy points. Okay. How about Camara? 21 fantasy points. He'll get two points non-touchdown and then the six. Camara or Hill? Camara is a must-start running back. Okay. Any wide receiver for the Saints?
Starting point is 00:41:21 No. Trey Kwan would be the best, but no. Nick Vanette? If you're desperate tom brady a billion yeah i did bad history against this team i know he had a huge game in in uh earlier this year but a little bit of a struggle how about we talked about fournette and jones uh evans you said is a must start so gronk okay but start the bucks all right finally it is time to go to the games washington at philadelphia your updated stat of the game every week we'll tell you about philadelphia against tight ends a tight end has 77 yards or a touchdown in nine straight games against the eagles what do
Starting point is 00:42:02 you think about seals jones i think he's a good streamer. You know, it's a great matchup. You know, you just have to wonder was last week to shake the rust off game or was that last week an indication of he's not going to assume the lead role completely
Starting point is 00:42:14 and it'll be shared between him and Bates. So I buy into it if I'm stuck, you know, so he's definitely in that range of Tyler Higbee and David Njoku, like we talked about earlier. But I think those guys, at least you know that they're locked
Starting point is 00:42:29 into their scenarios. But desperation, I would start. Like, I haven't ranked ahead of Noah Fant. I just can't trust Fant at this point. You know, Fant is probably just as good a matchup. You know, the Eagles are no longer worst against tight ends. Who has passed them? Chargers. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:48 The Chargers now just barely in non-PPR give up more fantasy points to Philadelphia. I'm not sure about then Philadelphia to tight ends. Not sure about PPR. Here's a new stat of the game. I already gave it. It's about how good the Eagles have been against running backs in their last six games and they're allowing 3.98
Starting point is 00:43:03 yards per carry to running backs. They're seeing just 17.3 running back carries per game in their last six games. And they're allowing 3.98 yards per carry to running backs. They're seeing just 17.3 running back carries per game in their last six games to put that in perspective. If they had done that over a full season, that would be the second fewest in the NFL. Only Tampa Bay sees fewer running back carries than what the Eagles have seen in their last six games. They're controlling the clock for their last six games.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's 35 minutes or more possession. So what do we do with Gibson? I mean, at least if McKissick doesn't play, I can hope that he catches a few passes, but there are a lot of questionable running backs. How about the NFC East guys? You said you like Sanders better than Gibson. What about Zeke Barkley Gibson? I have Gibson ranked ahead of them right now. You know, I don't want to fall into, and I hope people don't, you know, of last week is what he is now, you know, because he fumbled and they were just,
Starting point is 00:43:48 you know, completely game scripted out of it. And he, he didn't do much at the end of the game, you know, when they were really down and the Cole Holcomb interception kind of changed the score a little bit. So I'm hoping that the workload in the passing game is there,
Starting point is 00:44:03 you know, think about where we were at the start of his positive stretch, where it was the Tampa Bay game. Remember, bad matchup, and he ended up getting over 20 carries and finding the end zone. So they're not going to just roll over to Philadelphia, even though they're so beat up. So unless this game gets completely out of whack,
Starting point is 00:44:18 Gibson will still have an opportunity, I think, to score and to grind his way to a decent total yard. So not a number one run. Like last week he was my top five this week. He's barely my top 20. Yeah. They, I just,
Starting point is 00:44:31 he's so much better when they win, you know, that when they can control the clock and run the ball like they want to. And it's going to be tough with their defense, the way it is right now. Sony, Michelle or Fournette? Um,
Starting point is 00:44:44 uh, for now, I'm sorry. Fournette. why did i say fournette sony michelle or gibson yeah i was thinking gibson i'm sorry um you were right you said michelle okay yeah that's if henderson's out if henderson's in i'll probably go gibson all right how do you feel about terry mclaurin this week don't love him i mean obviously gonna see derry slay struggled against against the Eagles in two games last year where Slay played a lot on him. And so, banged up. Quarterback banged up.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Game script. He's not a top 24 receiver. You know, he'll be in the top 30, but two receiver leagues, I would say. Would you go with Ayuk, Russell Gage, McLaurin? All the other guys over McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Pittman or McLclorin probably mclorin or pitman the eagles have really given up five or six good games to wide receivers this year and they're pretty much all stars debo samuel tyree kill antonio brown keenan allen and elijah moore those are the only five wide receivers who have scored more than 14 PPR fantasy points. And the Tyreek Hill game was, you know, they made an effort to put Slay on Kelsey. Yeah. And four of those five had 12 to 13 targets. Deebo only had eight. It has been a long time since Terry McLaurin has had 12 to 13 targets.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Okay, let's see. So that pretty much covers Washington. A little hesitant on basically all of them. We're sitting Heineke. Seals Jones is a decent sleeper. He didn't play a lot last week, but when he was healthy and Logan Thomas was out, he was playing basically every snap.
Starting point is 00:46:19 So that's why Jamie said hopefully it was a shake the rust off game for Seals Jones. On the other side of the ball. Okay, Jalen Hurts Hurts man so where have you settled on Hurts right now who has this ankle injury who earlier this week was splitting reps with Gardner Minshew but he's facing just look at what Cam Newton did a few weeks ago that's got to be on your mind against Washington they're they have no defensive linemen oh man where'd you settle on Hurts as of now? I mean, I have him ranked as if he's playing full go, you know, which is seventh.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So, you know, assuming he gets a full practice in today, I will leave him there. If he doesn't, then I'll probably drop him down a spot or two. But once we get into that 8-9 range, it's just the murky quarterbacks. So if he's out, Gardner Minshew is a top-12 quarterback. Who do you like better? I mean, would you rather be Minshew or Hurts?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Who would you rank higher? I would... Both healthy? Yes. Well, no. Hurts playing, but he's obviously got the ankle injury. There's no way he's going to be able to do something. I guess I was getting at, if you told me Hurts is healthy, where would I rank him? Or if you tell me he's out and Minchie's playing? Yeah, so healthy enough to play, obviously, Jalen Hurts. But dealing with the ankle injury like he is right now.
Starting point is 00:47:38 If they say he's healthy enough to play and he gets through a full practice on Friday, I will have him where I have him ranked. If he's limited but he's still starting, then I will probably, depending on what happens with Jalen Waddell and Tyler Lockett, put him behind those guys. Still on the top 12-13 range. No lower than that. But down near the bottom of that.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Alright. Miles Sanders, where are you going to end up with him in your rankings if he plays? Looks good. Top 20. Okay. Top 20. I mean, it's such a good opportunity.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Now, he may lose goal line touches. He may lose passing down work. You just never know. But this defense, like you said, it's so beat up. Now, they may get guys back, depending on how the protocols change. So just keep that in mind. So don't yell at us because you said, start Miles Sanders. And then all of a sudden, they're all healthy. Jonathan Allen's playing, et cetera. So just keep that in mind. So don't yell at us because you said, start Miles Sanders. And then all of a sudden, they're all healthy.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Jonathan Allen's playing, et cetera. So just keep that in mind. But I think as of now, knowing what we know, Sanders plays, you got to feel pretty good about it. But honestly, they run on everyone. If Hurts is playing, they run on everyone. And they ran all over the Saints. It's who will run on all of them.
Starting point is 00:48:43 We have not seen Miles Sanders healthy, Jordan Howard healthy at the same time. We did once. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, the New Orleans game. Sanders had 16 carries for 94 yards, and Howard had 10 carries for 63 yards. Isn't that the game he left?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Maybe. Yeah, I think so. And then Boston Scott came in with six carries in that game for 16 yards. But Sanders, I mean, Sanders has been just freaking crushing it in terms of on a per carry basis against the Saints, Giants, and Jets.
Starting point is 00:49:15 So they were just running on everyone. But they've had pretty easy matchups except for the Saints, and they, you know, embarrassed the Saints. Washington is a terrific run defense. I mean, they might be one of the three best run defenses when they're healthy. It is something to keep in mind.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Devontae Smith or Terry McLaurin? McLaurin. It's just a matter of, like, Smith needs a score. That's bottom. He's just not going to get a lot of targets. If Gardner Minshew plays, would you move Smith up? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:45 How about Dallas Goddard? Let's talk about Goddard versus Pitts. There's only one guy to compare Goddard to, in my opinion. Goddard's better than Pitts. It's Dawson Knox. Because you have these two guys. You see what the upside is for both of them. Goddard against the Jets, he's always capable of something like that.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Maybe not two scores, but one. And, you know, 60 yards. Knox has been so good. And will they throw a lot against the Panthers? That's always, you know, on the table for them. But you said this a lot about Cole Beasley. You know, when they win their past attempts are down for Josh Allen. So, yeah, they're going to win this game against the Panthers, most likely.
Starting point is 00:50:21 So I like Knox better. I have that decision to make it a non-PPR league. In PPR, it's easy. I would go Goddard over Knox. But in non-PPR, I think Knox is better. And there's one other guy I think that I would put in that conversation now, and that's Kosicki. I'd start Goddard regardless.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Over Kosicki? Yeah. Okay. All right. Philadelphia's DST. Well, I guess that's a fair point. Maybe Kosicki if Waddle's out. Right, right. Right. SoST. I guess that's a fair point. Maybe it gets sticky. If waddles out. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Right. Um, right. So it's like you got your must starts and then you got, you got Goddard, uh, Knox, Gacicki,
Starting point is 00:50:55 maybe those three. Yeah. Fryer. Fryer. Okay. All right. Philadelphia DST, start them up and stash them for next week.
Starting point is 00:51:02 They're 58% rostered. We're going to take a 30 second break. When we come back, we got Minnesota at Chicago. Current Cousins primetime. Oh, no. All right. What does that mean? What has it been? What is the recent trends with Cousins playing in primetime? We'll tell you right after this.
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Starting point is 00:51:42 Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Minnesota's at Chicago Monday Night Football. Hope the weather's not terrible. I tried to find games of Kirk Cousins playing outdoors in December with Minnesota and it really hasn't happened much. They have the Dome now.
Starting point is 00:51:59 None in 2020, none in 2019. Played at New England on December 2nd in 2018 and scored 10 points. I mean, there's really not much here. 2017, he wasn't great in three December games. He was good in one of them. So let's talk more about the primetime thing, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Did you go through all the primetime Cousins games? No, but I have one that's burning in my brain, which is the Cowboys game where I made him start of the week that week. And he was terrible. Week eight. Yep. And then there was...
Starting point is 00:52:30 But prior to that, he'd actually played well. He just has not won. Let's not forget about last week. Thursday night, 17 fantasy points against Pittsburgh. He played a game where it looked like he could have scored a lot more. He had those three almost touchdowns to Justin Jefferson. So it wasn't like he was bad, but here are the numbers Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:52:52 There was a Friday night game Sunday night and Monday night over the last three seasons, nine primetime games and only three games with more than 17 fantasy points in six points per passing touchdown leagues. His one game with more than 22 fantasy points was a Friday night game. That's not really primetime. Nobody's watching on Friday night. You got other things to do, even during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:53:18 So really bad in primetime over the last three years. But the problem with this stat is if you go to four years ago, his first year with Minnesota, he scored 36, 24, 32, and 12 fantasy points in four primetime games. So is it fluky? I don't know. He was amazing in 2018 and has struggled since with the Vikings in primetime.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Anyway, the Bears do allow the third most fantasy points to quarterbacks. That's more important. That is more important. And Eddie Jackson's on the COVID list. So what do you think? I would start him. You know, I think, like you said,
Starting point is 00:53:53 he could have had such a huge game against the Steelers if Justin Jefferson catches the one. You know, he makes a better throw on another. The problem, I think, is how great is Dalvin Cook because you know he's going to be great Derrissaw back which I think is the case he's trending in the right direction it's huge for the offensive line so he'll have protection
Starting point is 00:54:13 but the question always becomes is this a big game for him not necessarily because it's prime time but is this a big game where he tends to you know sort of shrivel up a little bit and it's a big game you know they're well within the playoff hunt they got to win this game you know they where he tends to, you know, sort of shrivel up a little bit. And it's a big game. You know, they're well within the playoff hunt. They got to win this game.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You know, they can't afford to take their foot off the gas, especially depending on what happens with some other teams in the NFC. So if this was a Sunday game and you don't factor in a primetime scenario, he's, you know, maybe six or seven. I think he might have it ranked that way i'm more worried about bad conditions you know december it's gonna be bad though right no it's not i'm gonna double check right now i wish there was more of a history oh you know what he played a lot of cold weather games in in washington obviously all of his home games yeah i know i i guess so right i think we're not really too
Starting point is 00:55:07 concerned about the prime time thing just come through man and and uh i guess you can start cousins so dalvin cook justin jefferson their starts uh how about osborne the toughest thing with osborne is this possibility of feeling coming back and it being a monday night game but but also he's you know he is K.J. Osborne, and if he didn't have the long touchdown, a 62-yard touchdown catch, he's awful last week. But the targets, you have to buy into it. Nine targets in that game.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I mean, he's been so consistent when the targets have been up. Just however he gets it done, he's getting it done. It's true. 14.6 or more PPR fantasy points in five of six games with six to nine targets. 76 more yards than six. You know where he went to school to start his career?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Buffalo. Good job. Yeah, come on. I know. He transferred to Miami from Buffalo. All right, so Osborne or McLaurin? Oh, Osborne. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Osborne or Metcalf? Would have been closer. It's closer if Tyler Lockett plays, but Metcalf. I'm probably going to have to end up sitting Osborne because I started Mike Williams. Turn around. It's a 30-yard play.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Okay, Bears give up the fourth most points to wide receivers. The league where I started Mike Williams, I'm playing against my home. So that was bad for you then? Oh, yeah. Just kidding. Tyler Conklin, any interest here? Tyler Conklin. No, you don't have interest in him.
Starting point is 00:56:36 You starting to joke over him? Yes. Let's go to the Bears. No, Fields is not terrible. I mean, you know, if you give love to Cam Newton you gotta give some to Justin Fields he's running a lot too but only six touchdowns
Starting point is 00:56:52 well not this week but in the past if you say Cam Newton's got the rushing floor Fields is running a lot I was just saying he hasn't been that bad lately 27, 19, 21 points I was impressed with what he did against the Packers.
Starting point is 00:57:06 A lot of it was the Jakeem Grant, Demir Bird plays. Almost all of it was. Let's be real. I thought he handled himself well. I like the fact that he ran for 74 yards. The one turnover was horrible. He picked six. But I thought for coming off the bench, essentially,
Starting point is 00:57:26 for not playing the two previous games, still dealing with the rib injury, in that environment, you know, let your pen makers make plays. Vikings give up the fourth most fantasy points
Starting point is 00:57:35 to quarterbacks. Would you start Fields or Garoppolo? Fields, because I think he's going to have to do more. I think the 49ers, it's so weird because I don't trust their run game, per se, because of's so weird because I don't trust their run game per se,
Starting point is 00:57:46 because of Debo Samuel, or I don't trust the running backs because of Debo Samuel. Uh, I think there'll be able to run on the Packers. Okay. And David Montgomery, you have in the, everybody has in the top 15,
Starting point is 00:57:57 top 12 and full PPR. I just say, I'm not quite as convinced on Montgomery. I'm very nervous because he's only had one game with Justin Fields where he's caught a lot of passes. Yes, I know it was the most recent one, but I don't know, man. He just hasn't had enough good games this year. Maybe it's a reflection of the state of running back this week.
Starting point is 00:58:17 There aren't a ton that you're super confident in. But I understand most people are going to start Montgomery. You're going to start James Robinson over him, right? Yes. And if we get to a situation where Daryl Henderson is ruled out, I would start Michelle over Montgomery. If we get to a situation where one of the Broncos guys is ruled out, I would start one of them over Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:58:37 If we get to a situation where Aaron Jones is ruled out, I would start A.J. Dillon over Montgomery. So he may get bumped down a little bit. Okay. Would you start K.JJ Osborne or David Montgomery? Montgomery. Mooney or Osborne? Mooney.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Tell me why you like Darnell Mooney. I made a strong case against him last week, and he ended up with one catch for 19 yards, but part of that was Allen Robinson yards but part of that was alan robinson and part of that was the matchup so those two factors don't exist here minnesota's terrible against receivers is that why you like him yeah i mean they give it the most fancy points of the position you know so it's not like he was playing poorly with justin field before fields went down dalton was just peppering him with more targets but you know you went through that start of that
Starting point is 00:59:23 stretch where he was good. I think it was 12 or more points in the two games before Fields went down. Small sample size, but I think he's going to get targets. I think they're chasing points. I think the secondary's bad. I hope he gets matched up on Breland. And so I think Mooney's got a chance for some big plays.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Okay. Would you start Darnell Mooney or, let's see, let's do a running back. Darnell Mooney or, let's see, let's do a running back. Darnell Mooney or Melvin Gordon, assuming Javante Williams plays? I would start Melvin Gordon. I mean, look, it's starting Darnell Mooney, but it's not like he's a slam dunk.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You have to start Darnell Mooney. Well, I don't think you have to start Melvin Gordon. Well, I would start Melvin Gordon. Well, you have him. You have Gordon, 18th. Yeah. See, to me, a guy who's ranked 18th this week at running back isn't a great start.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And that's Javante Williams, that's Melvin Gordon, that's Saquon Barkley. Sure. Is it a bad running back week, or am I making that up? Yeah, I mean, you asked me before how many must-start guys I had to set three. Oh, right, right. I did ask you that. Minnesota's DST just outside the top 12.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Don't love them. Seattle at the Rams. Stat of the game number one. This is wild. I would love... Now, just to back up one second. Okay, back up. I think with the Bears,
Starting point is 01:00:34 you got to keep an eye on this illness that they're dealing with. Because it's non-COVID now, but one guy tests positive for COVID. Who knows what the hell they'll do? I don't even know why we're doing this show. We're gonna have to do a brand new one on Sunday morning. Things are going to change so much. It's crazy. Well, we do two separate ones, but we do. What do you mean? Shows on Sunday morning. Oh yeah, no, I know. Yes. So yes, you can watch
Starting point is 01:00:59 10 a.m. Eastern on HQ and until one and at.30 a.m. on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasyfootball until 1. We will answer your start-sit questions, but obviously it's going to be a wacky week. Seattle at the Rams. This is really interesting. It's probably just for Van Jefferson, but the Seahawks,
Starting point is 01:01:20 they allow the most passing yards per game, but they've seen the most pass attempts. They got the third lowest touchdown rate, though. They have a great run defense, but they give up a lot of passing yards. They just don't give up a lot of passing touchdowns or receiving touchdowns, at least to wide receivers, especially. They've given up one touchdown catch to a wide receiver in their last nine games, and that was Jamal Agnew. I know I bring that up a lot, but it keeps happening. They did give up a hundred yards to cook cooks last week,
Starting point is 01:01:49 but you know, you look at the Rams. Stafford has been on fire three straight games with 28 or more points. Cup is cup. What about Van Jefferson? How do you feel about him? Let's do without Beckham. And then with Beckham,
Starting point is 01:02:01 with Beckham, he's a number three receiver without Beckham. He's an, he's a borderline must-start guy. Is he ahead of Mooney? Yes. Without Beckham. Okay. Stafford, you love this week? Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:02:17 love him less with the loss of Beckham, but still love him. And then if Henderson is out, this is a big if game, right? If Henderson is out, Sonny Michel would be top 12? Yes. And if Henderson plays, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Back end of the starting group. I'd still start him over Henderson, but with a lot less confidence. I'd start Sanders over him. I would start Barkley over him. I would start Zeke over him. I would start Zeke over him. I just don't know what to do. We just haven't seen it since Michelle has taken sort of this lead role.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I think if Michelle had been better last week, I know there was some times where he ran well. But I think if he looked like he did against the Jaguars two games ago, there's no doubt. How could the Rams go away from that? Now, they love him. They love what he's been doing. But do they love him enough that they're going to say
Starting point is 01:03:06 Daryl Henderson's not going to have a significant role? So the Seahawks have a very good run defense. 3.71 yards per carry to running backs. But you know the deal. They give up the most receiving yards per game to running backs. And you get guys that usually don't catch a lot of passes that catch a ton of passes against Seattle. Henderson did not have a catch last week. I'm sorry. Michelle did not have a catch last week,
Starting point is 01:03:27 but he had three in each of the previous two games he played without Daryl Henderson. And he had 20 carries in all three games. He may not have a great rush average, but he's going to get a ton of work and there's a good chance he has a lot of catches because that's just what happens against Seattle. Uh, okay. How about that's it for that game? Oh, for that team. Okay. How about... That's it for that game. For that team, right? No, there's Higby. You already talked about Higby, though.
Starting point is 01:03:53 He's not a bad streamer. Scored against him the last time. I think we've seen at times this Seahawks defense just crack against tight ends. Yeah. You know, so... It's just a matter of how many targets he's going to get, and you would think there's going to be an uptick in targets if there is no Beckham.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So I, I don't mind him. Like I, I was just thinking about this as you brought up this game, like I'm going to end up, this is going to be a decision that cost me playoffs is that I went with the joke over Higby. Hmm. And what are you going to end up doing? You're going, I thought you said you're going to go with Higby. No, no, I'm going with the joke.
Starting point is 01:04:21 You're going with the joke. Okay. Yeah. So that's the Rams. How about the Seah Joku. You're going with the Joku. Okay. Yeah. So, all right, that's the Rams. How about the Seahawks? They're much more interesting here. Russell Wilson. If Lockett and Metcalf play, he's a low-end starter.
Starting point is 01:04:35 If Metcalf is the only guy, it's so tough to say he's a slam-dunk guy. But then, again, who are you starting over Russell Wilson becomes the question, you know? So I would start two over him with or without Waddle if there's no locket. I would start Kurtz
Starting point is 01:04:51 at less than 100% over Wilson if there's no locket. I would start Taysom Hill over Wilson if there's no locket. But then it gets to Garoppolo or Wilson. I'd probably still stick with Wilson. Would it be... Roethlisberger?
Starting point is 01:05:05 Huh? Roethlisberger? That's a tough one for me. I'd probably still stick with Wilson. Would it be... Roethlisberger? Huh? Roethlisberger? That's a tough one for me. I'd probably go Ben. Okay. Rashad Penny. We laid it out on Wednesday's show. We talked a lot about Rashad Penny.
Starting point is 01:05:18 But the Rams' run defense has just been nasty in their last six games. They're giving up 3.07 yards per carry to running backs with some decent competition in there. They've been terrific. And Penny not involved in the passing game. So did he crack your top 24 this week? He did.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I'm going to see if I can find that stat that I brought up about his carries. Yes, he's in the top 24. I think it's hopefully a good situation for him to be the lead guy, and that'll matter. A more competitive game, I think, will matter. No Alex Collins, I think, will matter, depending on what they do with the second guy.
Starting point is 01:06:01 So it's a good situation. I mean, it's a tough matchup and, you know, we'll see, uh, you know, we'll see what he does. I can't find it. I'm sorry. That's okay. Look at this question here from Grabastian. Uh, maybe I shouldn't have said that.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Penny or Zeke? Uh, Zeke, but that's when I've gone back and forth on. Penny or Penny or, um, Bron. Penny or Broncos guys? Broncos guys. Penny or Packers guys? Jones, Penny, Dillon. Jones, Penny, Dillon. Penny or Mooney?
Starting point is 01:06:39 Penny. Okay. How about Metcalf if Lockett? Metcalf if Lockett's out, everyone's going to start him. If Lockett plays, Metcalf if Lockett... Metcalf if Lockett's out, everyone's going to start him. If Lockett plays, Metcalf is where? If Lockett plays, Metcalf is in the Mooney outside top 24 group. Any interest in Gerald Everett this week? A little.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I mean, the Rams have been really good against tight ends. Did you see how difficult it was for him to score last week? A little. I mean, the Rams have been really good against tight ends. Did you see how difficult it was for him to score last week? It's difficult for him to do everything. Yeah, he caught the ball and he was an inch away from the end zone. I feel like it took him a really long time to get in. I was like, what is
Starting point is 01:07:19 going on? I mean, we were watching on replay. It looked like he didn't get in. Yeah, it should have been such an easy touchdown. The Rams DST is interesting. Would you start the Raiders or the Rams? I would start the Rams, especially if there is no locket. All right, here I found the tweet.
Starting point is 01:07:39 It's from Mike Sando, who covers the Seahawks for the Athletic, I think. Yeah, I think so. All right, he works at the Athletic. So Penny has four career games with 10-plus carries. 16 for 137, two touchdowns last week. 15 for 74 in touchdown against Minnesota, I don't know what year.
Starting point is 01:08:00 14 for 129 in touchdown against Philadelphia. 12 for 108 in touchdown against the Rams. So in the games where he has 10 plus carries, 57 attempts, 448 yards, five touchdowns, 7.8 yards per carry. I wish you hadn't told me that because I don't really want to start him. Why? I'm very nervous. I'm very nervous.
Starting point is 01:08:21 The run defense has been so good. What are your choices? Right now, it's him or Michael Carter. And it's full PPR. That's easy for me. It's Penny for you? Yeah. I mean, you've got to come back from an injury. You're facing a really good defense
Starting point is 01:08:35 as well. By the way, Mike Sando, how about Sando Ballet for a team name for him? Thank you, Jamie, for the courtesy laugh. Yeah, like I said, it's going to be Edmonds if Conner's out. If not, it's going to be Penny. Dallas is at the Giants. Stat of the game.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Dak Prescott, he's struggling lately, man, but he owns the Giants. His last four healthy games. Remember, he broke his leg last year against the Giants. 1,315 yards is memory for you. 1,315 yards, 14 touchdowns, and one interception. Woo! That's in his last four healthy games against the Giants?
Starting point is 01:09:12 Yes. That's pretty good. It's 26, 27, 41, and 41 fantasy points. Like or love Dak Prescott this week? So in my scramble attempt, here's another peek behind the scenes of, holy bleep, it's 5 o'clock, and I don't want to piss off my editors. Who's another peek behind the scenes of holy bleep it's five o'clock and i don't want to piss off my editors who's going to be the start of the week and initially when i pivoted from jalen hurts i'm like who's struggling that at least i can you know give some
Starting point is 01:09:35 people some confidence in and i went to dak prescott so if you did see stardom sit him for about an hour on wednesday dak prescott was the start of the week. And I was like, who has Dak Prescott and is not starting Dak Prescott? I'm like, this is just too weak. So let me find somebody else who's really been struggling and not have the same start percentage because Dak's start percentage at that point was 89%. Now I throw out the playoffs typically
Starting point is 01:09:57 because you never know who's still around. And so it's, you know, the only flack I usually get is from my colleagues who are a bunch of bleep holes sometimes. Oh, for sure. Giving me stuff about start of the week. But yeah, I think Dak's got a good opportunity here. The track record's amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:15 So hopefully he delivers. So how do you feel about the Cowboys in general? Who's a confident start for you in this game? CeeDee Lamb is the best Cowboys player. I think Zeke could do well. I think what's going gonna happen with zeke is does he find the end zone because if you tell me he gets 60 total yards i think he's gonna do and scores that's a zeke game at this point yeah how many catches twice i'm gonna call it three catches i i don't know what it's gonna be but the giants give up a lot of catches and a lot of receiving yards to running backs. But you brought this up before it started when everybody was coming back, that the concern is
Starting point is 01:10:48 Lamb's back, Gallup's back, Cooper's back, Schultz is there. But that's when he was getting five or six catches. I don't think that's happening. No, I agree with you. Yeah. And if Pollard plays, does it impact- He did have five targets last week and caught one. Yeah, that's encouraging. If Pollard plays, does it impact your ranking of Ezekiel Elliott? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Yeah. I mean, I know Corey Clement basically did Pollard production or Pollard workload. Right. But Pollard's better. Dramatically. But he's also Pollard, you know. Now, here's the bigger concern. Is Pollard playing Clement active and they don't
Starting point is 01:11:28 want to work Pollard and fully. So it's now three guys sharing the ball. Oh, I, man, look, I think you got to expect to, like Jamie said,
Starting point is 01:11:39 60 yards. You got, you can't expect a ton. You need a touchdown from Zeke. I think he's going to get, I mean, I feel decent about him getting it. You never, it's hard to predict these things, but Zeke. I think he's going to get it. I feel decent about him getting it.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's hard to predict these things, but I think it's a good matchup. He's overdue. He's overdue, and you know if they get to the end zone, he's got toward the end zone, they've got most likely scenario, Zeke is in the game. Oh, that's where the bat phone comes in,
Starting point is 01:11:59 and Jerry Jones is like, I don't care what you do. He's getting three carries inside the five. All right, starters said Amari Cooper. We like him in good matchups. I'm going to move Zeke out. To where? You know, not much, but ahead of Barkley.
Starting point is 01:12:11 The question you asked me earlier, Zeke over Barkley. Okay, Zeke over Barkley. Cooper, start or sit? Start. You know, I think you... Healthy Cooper, I'll take my chances with him. He may get you similar stat line, five for 50, and not score like he did last week,
Starting point is 01:12:26 but I just don't trust this Giants defense very much right now. You start Cooper over Mooney? Yes. Over Gage? Yes. Over Macho Grande?
Starting point is 01:12:37 Over Metcalf, over Parker, over, you know, it's, the way that I kind of did my rankings was, okay, where's the last guy? Over Parker.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Ooh. All right, I'll disagree. I'll go Parker over Cooper. That's fine. They're back-to- okay. Over Parker? Over Parker. Ooh. All right, I'll disagree. I'll go Parker over Cooper. That's fine. They're back-to-back. Obviously without Waddle. Yep. I have no problem with that.
Starting point is 01:12:52 By the way, did you get my, I know you didn't hear it, but do you know my over Macho Grande reference? No. Oh, okay. Airplane 2. Terrific scene. Michael Gallup is more of a number three receiver,
Starting point is 01:13:01 but Gallup is getting a ton of targets that you could do worse, especially in DFS. I mean, if you just want a piece of the passing game. Yeah. So, okay. Schultz. Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Start or sit? I think you got to sit him. I mean, you know, it's such a poor opportunity for him because of everybody there. You know, this was the fear. Now, he could score. Certainly would not be surprised if that happens. But can't trust it with everybody helping. So we're going to sit the Giants passing game.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Could be Mike Lennon and Jake Fromm in this game. Barkley is really the biggest question here. Davis, the high guy, for sure he's got him in the top 12. You've got him more like 18th, I think, Saquon Barkley. Barkley or a Packers running back? Non-PPR, Barkley over both of them. PPR, Jimmy Jones over Barkley. It's very weird.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It's not a great run defense per se, but they give up the fourth fewest fantasy points to running backs they rarely rarely give up big games to running backs but booker was one of the guys who did have a good game a big game when he faced the cowboys when barkley got hurt but it just has not been a matchup that running backs go crazy and it's hard to do uh and we're not starting just suffocated gibson last week too they did and Micah Parsons is going to he might as well just line up next to Mike Lennon he'll be there for most of the game alright
Starting point is 01:14:32 is Micah Parsons a defense player of the year as well as a rookie defense player you know for a while I thought it was going to be Trayvon Diggs I don't know I mean I'm probably not qualified to answer this Aaron Donald's probably better than him well Myles Garrett's in the conversation too Myles Garrett's been great I don't know. I mean, I'm probably not qualified to answer this. Aaron Donald's probably better than him. Well, Miles Garrett's in the conversation too.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Miles Garrett's been great. Sorensen. The kid is making impact plays. I mean, it's not just that he's getting numbers. He's making impact. Yeah, I think so. He says he's going to break Javon Kirsten's rookie sack record. Yeah, I think it's a great case. There's nobody that's jumping off the page. Except him. If he's not a great case there's nobody that's like
Starting point is 01:15:05 jumping off the page except him if he's not a rookie he's winning it yeah what about Sorensen for a player alright we got can we do three games in ten minutes you ready yes Arizona at Detroit
Starting point is 01:15:22 start all sit all next we'll do a little bit longer Fitz, you ready? Yes. Arizona at Detroit. Start all, sit all. Next. We'll do a little bit longer than that. Did you downgrade Kyler Murray without Hopkins? Yeah, a couple spots. But he's fifth for you still, or is that outdated? He is top seven. Okay, no streamers over Kyler?
Starting point is 01:15:42 No. All right, we've pretty much laid out the running back situation. If Edmonds is the only guy, he's a must start. If Conner's in, he's back to being a must start. Like, the Lions are just the worst. Now, actually, if Conner plays, could this be the matchup that Edmonds actually could be good in? You know, I mean, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:16:01 If Conner plays, they're both together, you mean? Yeah, yeah, because last week you know you liked both lot both uh oh no i i broncos guys yeah i mean i'm gonna readjust it today and i think edmunds gets a bump just because the matchup is so good and connor's not 100 now edmunds first lost the play you know i mean they can still say you know what connor's good sit one more week make sure you're 100 healthy healthy for the stretch run. Edmonds gets activated. I think you've got to consider him a borderline starter in every format, just because, like you said, it's a
Starting point is 01:16:31 great matchup, and Connor is not going to be 100%. And if Connor, let's assume Connor, it doesn't matter, I guess, wide receiver question. You said earlier you like St. Brown the best in this game over Green and Kirk in full receiver question. You said earlier you like St. Brown the best in this game over Green and Kirk in full PPR.
Starting point is 01:16:47 You like Kirk better than St. Brown and Green in non-PPR. So do you think any of them have like a big must-start game? Are you treating any of them in that way? No, I think St. Brown is probably like 15 PPR points, you know, so not monster. I don't think he scores. So you're looking at like, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:03 seven for 80 in that range. You know, as a ceiling. Okay. Eight for 70. And I think I may have asked you this earlier, but Ertz or Pitt. Kirk and Green certainly have touchdown potential. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:15 I probably have Green too low. Ertz or Pitts? Ertz in PPR for sure. Pitts and, maybe Ertz in both. And by the way, you may have green too low. He might have more touchdown potential. He has the second most red zone targets and second most green zone targets
Starting point is 01:17:32 on the team behind DeAndre Hopkins. And I think I may have had one other. Nah, that's all I have on that. But yeah, he's been a guy that gets looked at and money where they make their money. The end zone, baby. Zacherts is a top 10 tight end. Jared Goff is not a top 10 quarterback.
Starting point is 01:17:53 If Jamal Williams plays, does he become a must start? He had 15 and 17 carries in the last two games without Swift. One of them Swift left with an injury. No, I think they would probably split the touches between them. Okay. You mean between him and Craig Reynolds?
Starting point is 01:18:10 Yeah, I think he'd be a flex. Okay, obviously if Swift plays, they're going to start him. This is not a good run defense. They just don't get run on a lot, kind of like the Cowboys. And you like St. Brown. He's 44% rostered, and that is it for this game. Arizona's DST is top four. Atlanta at San Francisco. Stat of the game. In six of their last nine games, the Falcons have
Starting point is 01:18:31 held a lead running back to 3.85 yards per carry or less. They've actually had a very good run defense. Both of these run defenses are good, just in terms of per carry. They're good. But I know you're going to start Patterson. So I guess if Elijah Mitchell plays, given how long he's been out, not a lot of practice, not a great matchup, and the Debo factor, would Elijah Mitchell be a slam dunk?
Starting point is 01:18:56 He'd be in my top 24. Yeah, so I'd start him over Barkley. I would start him over probably Zeke. I would start him over Gibson. I'd start him over Dylan andke. I would start him over Gibson. I'd start him over Dylan and Jones and non-PPR. So that means you'd start him over Penny. I'd start him over Penny. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And Matt Ryan is a sit. Patterson is a start. Russell Gage is a start. And I asked you earlier, Gage or Ayuk? You said Ayuk. So we'll go a little lower then. If James Conner plays, would you start Chase Edmonds earlier, Gage or Ayuk? You said Ayuk. So we'll go a little lower then. If James Conner plays, would you start Chase Edmonds or Russell Gage? James Conner plays, I'll start Gage.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Would you start Gage over A.J. Green? I would start Gage and PPR, Green and none. Okay. What are we thinking, about 60 yards? Is Mosley playing for the 49ers? No. He's on IR. He's on IR. And they've been really bad without him. It's a really good point because Gage is not just a slot receiver anymore.
Starting point is 01:19:54 He's playing outside a lot. Mosley is their best cornerback. I looked at the games in which he either didn't play or left with an injury. It's been bad. So it's something to keep in mind. I think that might help Pitts more so than Gage. It could. Let me see if I can get the
Starting point is 01:20:09 exact stat on Mosley here. So Pitts did crack your top 10. I think he's ninth for everyone. Oh boy. If you don't have the Eagles DST, you better get him now. Oh, what happened? Taylor Heineke. Tested positive for COVID. Oh.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Oy yi yi. Okay. Yes, he did. Also, I saw Cleveland signed quarterback Kyle Lauletta. Yep. So that tells you something about their quarterback situation. Well, they got to cover themselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Sure. Well. Well, then. Definitely not starting with Cloran now. No, no. And Gibson's probably a much more riskier play too. So, to the Niners. Garoppolo is outside the top 15.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I think he's 15th for Heath. He's 17th for Jamie. I know you're just thinking they're going to run the ball, win kind of easily. And he throws a lot when they lose, and they're probably not going to lose. Huge game here, by the way. Falcons-Niners. We talked a lot about you. You're not interested in Jeff Wilson,
Starting point is 01:21:16 right? No, it's so hard to be. I mean, he's getting so much work, but just not doing anything with it, which is so frustrating. Because, I mean, think about where we were last year with him. He was winning people leagues. I know, but Debo is their best running back.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Debo is their best running back. And he, and Wilson doesn't catch the ball and Debo is a must start, even though it's been a little nerve wracking lately. Iuke is a good start. Yeah. We've talked a lot about Iuke. You can feel, you feel confident in him?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Would you say that? No. He's a good start. They're just starting that, Betty. Great starts. And let's go to New Orleans, Tampa Bay, because you're starting George Kittle, and the Niners DST is also...
Starting point is 01:21:59 It's funny you mention that. I have that decision to make against you, Brandon Iuke and Russell Gage. I would start. I, you. Or, or what I could do is I could play Patterson at running back.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And then that's all. Well, so here's my choices. This is, this is my matchup against you. I have, uh, Antonio Gibson,
Starting point is 01:22:23 Saquon Barkley, Sony, Michelle, and A.J. Dillon. I'm trying not to pay attention here because I don't want to know. Or I could bench one of those guys, play Patterson, and then go with Gage, Ayuk, and CeeDee Lamb, the receiver. I don't care. I mean, I'm probably, I'm going to kick your ass anyway.
Starting point is 01:22:52 You know, our projections... Have me favored, which is weird. Favored. Our projections is a very high-scoring league. It's IDP. Start a bunch of guys. Your team is so much better than mine, too. Yeah, I mean, it should be, but, you know, it's Marquise Brown,
Starting point is 01:23:02 it's DK Metcalf, it's Evans in a tough matchup, but it's Darren Waller on the bench. Oh, I can make it catch you. Yeah, yeah. Our projections was Jamie 179, Adam 178.75. Those were the original projections. And after last night, it is 50% to 50%. We're projected for almost the same exact points.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I think I'm going to bench Gibson. I think it's not a bad idea. All right. If Daryl Henderson's out. Yeah, that's the thing. Now I have to root for Daryl Henderson to come back. But I have Sonny Michel and two other leagues. This is why I don't look at my matchups, Jamie.
Starting point is 01:23:41 New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Michael Gage in. Last game here. New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Last game here. New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Start all bucks. We talked about Ronald Jones earlier in the injury section, but start all bucks. Start Camara. He actually
Starting point is 01:23:55 does have pretty good history against the against the Bucks, even with this terrific run defense. And he was very involved in the passing game. Kyle Allen's on the reserve COVID-19 list, too. They had to sign somebody today. New Orleans at Tampa Bay is start all bucks. And Taysom Hill, you do have 12th.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You're the high guy on Taysom Hill. So right now, you have Hill and Wilson back-to-back, right? I do. You go Tua, Hill, Wilson. And that's Wilson without Lockett, right? Yep. What if Lockett plays? Wilson will go ahead of Taysom.
Starting point is 01:24:34 All right, so Taysom is ahead of Roethlisberger, Fields, Garoppolo, Joe Burrow, Derek Carr. He is obviously risky. Kamara's top six in both formats. Traquan Smith would be your favorite wide receiver. Remember I said yesterday I had to choose between David Johnson and Traquan Smith?
Starting point is 01:24:51 I'm starting both of them. I forgot my team is even worse than I thought. Nick Vanette is outside the top 20, but he does have 40-plus yards in two straight games. Brady, yes. Fournette, if he plays, absolutely. He's got such a great role in the passing game, but he sucked against New Orleans
Starting point is 01:25:07 in week eight. Eight carries, three catches, 33 total yards. His worst game by far since becoming the feature back, which is why I wonder if Ronald Jones really would be a must start if he's the guy. I can understand respecting Fournette, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:24 You know. Okay. Well, I think we talked about that earlier. Yes, I mean, it's not a slam dunk, but I think just given the workload and this offense and the touchdown potential, that would start. Cool, and that's it for this game because you're starting Goblin and you're starting Evans. I'm not starting DFS.
Starting point is 01:25:39 It's a Sunday night game anyway, but if you're playing a showdown or whatever, I wouldn't start Evans. He just is awful against Marshall. Here are the Washington quarterback group. Garrett Gilbert, Kyle Schumer, and Jordan Ta'amu. I know where two of them
Starting point is 01:25:54 went to college. I don't know where Jordan Ta'amu went. Was it Oregon? That's what I want to say. Let's see. I think Schumer went to Vanderbilt. Gilbert, Texas tech. Does anybody care about this?
Starting point is 01:26:09 Jordan? I mean, the show is a marathon already. Yeah. What are we at? An hour 25. Holy cow. We got to go.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Goodbye, everybody. Thank you so much for watching and listening. I'm going to talk to you so much today. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. God,
Starting point is 01:26:23 I hope I beat you in 93. I really did. I mean, you could. You're the 50th. No, I you did. You're the 50th. No, I'm not. You'll be 50. See ya.
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