Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC); Beat the Waiver Wire; HOU-KC (09/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

Welcome to the NFL, Clyde Edwards-Helaire. It was a great debut, but will CEH lose goal line touches going forward? What do we make of Sammy Watkins' big day and the struggles of Brandin Cooks? We rec...ap the game and give you the injury news you need to know (14:00) as we check in on Courtland Sutton, Kenny Golladay, Mike Evans and more ... Week 1 WR sleepers (20:42), Beat the Waiver Wire (22:55) if you're looking to stash someone for Week 2 or beyond, and the Startometer (24:26) for TB- NO, DAL-LAR and DET-CHI ... Start or Sit for ARI-SF (26:26), SEA-ATL (33:18), PHI-WAS (40:10), GB-MIN (49:30), DET-CHI (53:00), TB-NO (59:30), DAL-LAR (1:04:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Back in January, 41 straight points for the Kansas City Chiefs. And now here in September, 31 straight points for the Kansas City Chiefs as they win the season opener 34-20 over the Houston Texans. Hey, thank goodness for garbage time, by the way. Deshaun Watson, Will Fuller with very respectable games.
Starting point is 00:01:42 David Johnson, a good one as well. We'll talk about that. We'll preview seven more NFC home games today. We're going to play Beat the Waver Wire. If you're already trying to get a jump on week two, why not pick up the Titans DST, people? Good matchup this week. Great matchup next week.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Available in about 40% of leagues. Go ahead and get them. Good morning, Dave Richard and Jamie. Well, actually, good morning to my good friend, Jamie Isenberg. Good morning to my former friend, Dave Richard. I mean, I can go back to bed. I'm your former friend. You don't want to hear from me.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Tough night for us, Dave. You and I. Not for me. We're on the outs. Well, if you say so. Finally ditching your ass after 15 years. Yeah. No, Dave. Dave and the Twitch audience convinced me to sit Sammy Watkins. And oops.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Let's see. Sammy Watkins has only started in 19% of leagues. I could have been. I could have made it 20. Just put him on the list for 2021 week one. This is now another big week one for him. Two years in a row. He's the new Deshaun Jackson.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah. Start him next week, Adam. Go ahead. I big week one for him. Two years in a row. He's the new Deshaun Jackson. Yeah. Start him next week, Adam. Go ahead. I might. They've got the Chargers. We'll see. Then Baltimore and then New England. Okay. Anyway, how was watching football?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Fun, right? It was great. It was fun. Fun game. It's so awesome to watch the Chiefs offense just work and how creative they are. Andy Reid's face mask was awesome. Look, the Texans,
Starting point is 00:03:17 if there's positives that come out of that, it's Will Fuller's going to be really good if he stays healthy. And David Johnson's going to be really good if he stays healthy. Yeah. And I mean, they only threw they didn't throw enough. They didn't have the ball that much, at least until the fourth quarter, but only 32 pass attempts, which was a little surprising. David Johnson with a very good game, 77 rushing yards and a touchdown, 32 receiving yards.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Duke Johnson got hurt. So Duke Johnson left with a leg injury. We'll have to check on that. Their next two games are Baltimore and Pittsburgh. And we're going to obviously talk about Clyde Eberts either. Also today on the show, Kyler Murray. Can you trust Kyler Murray against the San Francisco 49ers? Can you trust Terry McLaurin,
Starting point is 00:03:56 potentially matched up against Darius Slay? Did face the Lions last year. He torched the Eagles last year. These are just a couple of the players. We're going to talk about dozens of players in seven NFC home games. But, all right, Dave, let's get your thoughts here. Some other injuries in this game.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Three defensive players for the Chiefs. Cornerback Traverius Ward, defensive end Alex Okafor, defensive tackle Kalen Saunders. They all left with injuries. Don't know anything about the severity right now. We saw the quote from Patrick Mahomes that the Texans really focused on limiting the big play. They played their safeties deep.
Starting point is 00:04:30 They had a guy over Tyreek Hill the whole game. Bradley Roble actually did a pretty good job in coverage on him. And so that... Not on the touchdown, but there was a whole lot he could do on that. Yeah, right, exactly. How are you going to cover Tyreek Hill there?
Starting point is 00:04:42 But it was just a lot of short passes for Patrick Mahomes, and Sammy Watkins benefited from it. Watkins is rostered in 76% of leagues. Nicole Hartman, by the way, 64%. What do you think about the Chiefs' passing game right now? They took what the Texans gave them, obviously, and that really did help Sammy Watkins, and it's something to keep in mind,
Starting point is 00:05:03 because that's probably how a lot of defenses are going to play the Chiefs this year. They're not going to try and stop the run. And I don't know if blitzing Patrick Mahomes is any good. The Texans tried doing that on the touchdown that was overturned by Robinson dropping the football in the first quarter. I would expect that you'll see more of that short passing. It's going to go to Kelsey Watkins.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I almost wonder if Watkins is like a better version of Larry Fitzgerald for the Chiefs, where not as dynamic as he used to be, but certainly a little faster than Larry Fitzgerald right now and a guy who can be a good contributor in these high-scoring games. Maybe you should look at Sammy Watkins a little more closely. Maybe he's not just an in-case-of-emergency-grab-off-the-bench guy. But the one guy they didn't use in their short area passing game, and they will in the future, is going to be Edwards Hilaire. He didn't have any catches in this game, and he still had a monster fantasy performance.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And he could have had more. I'm sure we'll talk about that. Yeah, let's do it now. Yeah, okay. Look, I think Edwards Hilaire, there's a lot to like about him. But there's not a lot to like about the Chiefs' short yardage offense because when they were at the goal line, they were giving to Edwards-Hilaire. The offensive line was getting pushed back.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Texans probably, the story there, they're just good at stopping those short yardage carries at the goal line. At least they were on Thursday night. It's not that big of a concern yet. I don't think that if Daryl Williams had been in there, for example, that he would have done a better job than Edward Ziller.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Okay, and Jamie, we talked about that on Fantasy Football today in five, but we also talked about this Twitter poll. I said, don't even think about it. Just tell me how you're feeling about this right now. If you were drafting again today,
Starting point is 00:06:39 who would you draft first? Clyde Edward Ziller or Alvin Kamara? 2,600 votes, and Clyde Edward Ziller 56 or Alvin Kamara? 2,600 votes and Clyde Edwards-Ziller 56%, Alvin Kamara 44%. Alvin Kamara has had 81 catches three years in a row. I wonder if you would have done that with Alvin Cook.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That would have been. I think it would have been Clyde Edwards-Ziller either way. No, I'm sure it would have been. If you just look at average draft position, Cook went right before. I should have done it with Zke because I think, you know, I'm guessing a lot of people would take Clyde Edwards-Zehler third. And look, I get it.
Starting point is 00:07:10 If he's going to keep getting goal line rushes and the catches will come. But, you know, give me your overall impressions. And do you think Clyde Edwards-Zehler, in case you missed it, had a bunch of chances to get in from the one-yard line and got stuffed every time? Jamie, do you think he's in jeopardy of losing that role? I mean, he could be, but who cares? You know, I mean, it's not like they're going to, they're not going to just bring in Darrell Williams to be a goal line specialist. You know, they're going to keep their guys on the field. You'll probably see a few more, you know, they had a couple of the, you know, receivers
Starting point is 00:07:41 crossing the, the, the formation and, you know, you get the little flip pass that'll you know add a couple touchdowns to my homes at some point um but no i'm not worried about Clyde Edwards Hilaire at all you know i again if this was the start you're thrilled and and this is something that they could build off of um you know Daryl Williams is going to be on the field probably a little bit more in some cases because i don't know if they want to go every game and giving their rookie running back 25 carries because who knows if he can hold up to that so you know is he going to be 20 touches on a weekly basis I think that's you know probably a good place to start you know we we really haven't seen that from the Chiefs in the last couple of seasons since Kareem Hunt you know because they've rotated Damian Williams and another guy especially last year you know whether
Starting point is 00:08:21 it was McCoy or Darrell Williams uh Williams was disappointing you know he also didn't do a great job in the time that he was out there. So that was a little frustrating, too. Maybe if he had been a little bit better, then they would have given him some of those chances. Remember, there was a fourth down run or third down run early in the game. He didn't convert it and they went for a fourth down. So their short yardage game was just not great across the board. So I wouldn't necessarily put it all on Edward Solaire.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The only thing I think that would be concerning is that they didn't use him more in the passing game. You know, that's something I think that you expected to see, especially knowing that from what we heard when he was going to be out there, they're not going to put him in some blitz protection situations. Now he was running routes, but you know, a couple of, at least one of his targets was, you know, my home's just getting bailed out and, you know, threw threw it behind him and he and he didn't catch the ball so i'm gonna guess
Starting point is 00:09:09 he'll probably be in the five target range you know uh more often than not as compared to two targets but that's the thing that i think you want to see more of the short area stuff will work itself out remember they're still working through their offensive line too without devarne tardy do whatever the name is the doctor yes without the doctor there. You know, Assembly played well. They kept highlighting how good he was doing. But again, this is their first game. First time with serious contact.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And so, you know, I'll lean toward them being better in that regard more than being concerned about it. Is it a silver lining for Darrell Williams that he was in on pretty much every passing down in the two-minute drill? Yeah. Absolutely. yeah absolutely I mean yeah but who's like but he got totally out touched in such a severe way that he just looks doesn't he just look like a handcuff right now like oh the idea of you're starting two chiefs running backs yes yes I started I started Williams over carry on
Starting point is 00:10:03 Johnson yesterday when I saw that adrian peterson was going to play so i was like oh why do i want to deal with that mess against the bears as opposed to this what turned to be a mess against uh against the texans um but i think you're gonna like don't drop daryl williams if you don't have to because you see what the workload could be if he ever gets that job like that's the lottery ticket scenario that we've been talking about. So I'm discouraged that he wasn't more productive in the touches that he had, but I would not say get rid of Darrell Williams yet. He's not on the chopping block by any stretch.
Starting point is 00:10:39 All right, Dave, just a few quick questions. We'll finish up. We'll move on here. How patient are you going to be with Brandon Cooks? And how patient are you going to be with Nicole Hardman? And in that respect, should you pick up to Marcus Robinson, who could have had a two-touchdown game? He dropped two touchdowns. I wonder if Robinson
Starting point is 00:10:55 starts to fall out of favor. If he continues to drop the football, that was brutal. I'm going to obviously give Cooks at least a couple more weeks. Unfortunately, the next couple of weeks are not going to be easy matchups for him. And you hate that he had half as many targets as Will Fuller. At the beginning of the game, I felt like they were doing a decent job of spreading the ball around and doing the things that Deshaun Watson
Starting point is 00:11:17 was talking about this offseason. And then push comes to shove. He's going after Will Fuller. So a little bit different than what we were expecting. And I wonder if that changes or maybe it doesn't um hardman is now more of like a tyreek hill handcuff in deep leagues it was it was frustrating to see him at play i think he played the same percentage of snaps in week one as he did in the super bowl which means that there's been no change and i don't know when that change is going to come. I don't know when Hardman's going to get an opportunity
Starting point is 00:11:45 to start playing 50-plus percent of the snaps. All right, well, the Chiefs get the Chargers next week, and the Texans get the Ravens, and then the Steelers, and then the Vikings next three games. All right, I want to promote a few things here. Weekend programming, a lot of weekend programming for you. All right, first of all, for Fantasy Football today on CBS Sports HQ. It's live noon Eastern every Monday through Friday.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Check it out. DFS show on Friday. In addition to other stuff, of course, like the big injuries and things like that. We'll talk about, yeah, we got a lot of wide receiver injuries to update you on right now. Jamie, what are we looking at Sunday morning on HQ? Oh, my God. It's going to be crazy. 10 a.m. Eastern. We have a lot of guests.
Starting point is 00:12:26 We have Tom Spencer who you probably hear me referenced a lot during the season. He is in the booth as the research guy. You know, the guy that gives all the information to Jim Nance and Tony Romo. He is amazing. And he is in the pre-production meetings with the teams that they, the game that they cover. And so Tom in the pre-production meetings with the teams that they, the game that they cover. And so Tom is the, the CBS crew is at the Patriots and dolphins.
Starting point is 00:12:50 So I'm excited to hear what they're, what they have planned for cam Newton in week one. What time is all, are all the festivities kicking off 10 a.m. 10 a.m. All right. 10 to noon or 10 to one. Right.
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Starting point is 00:14:16 but we will forgive them for that. Would you have said that if Kelsey had two touchdowns in a hundred yards last night, I would have said that. I mean, I didn't even like, I didn't even look. Um, I night I would have said that I mean I didn't even like I didn't even look um I mean I looked but I guess I didn't notice but if I had said that before the Thursday night game I definitely would have said how do you not have George's Kittle as your number one tight end um but you know I thought you were in front of
Starting point is 00:14:37 microphone right at any point to say that no I know I should have but I looked at um I looked at the last five teams that finished last against tight ends, as the Cardinals did last year. And only one of them repeated as a horrible DST against tight ends. So you never know what's going to happen. You got a wild card, though. We'll see how Isaiah Simmons does. Yeah, I would love to see him try to cover George Kittle in his first NFL game.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Not so good. Cortland Sutton, Kenny Galladay, Mike Evans did not practice. Danny Amendola also limited with a hamstring injury. But Sutton's got the sprained AC joint. Does it seem serious? He's got a Monday night game against Tennessee. So what's the deal? I'd anticipate him not playing this week at this point.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Okay. Tennessee, so what's the deal? I'd anticipate him not playing this week at this point. Jerry, Judy, 88% owned. Noah Phan, 84% owned. Are you going to move them up in your rankings? Obviously, if Sutton's out, they're going to see an uptick in targets, but this is not going to be pretty for this Broncos team if they don't have those guys.
Starting point is 00:15:41 They could be on the field all day defensively because of the defense being banged up without Von Miller and Bradley Chubb, you know, not playing 100%. So this could be a Titans field day if they really, you know, want to just milk the clock and run Derrick Henry all over them.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah, but I mean, are you going to say like, Jerry, Judy's in your top 30, Noah Fant's a top 12 for sure guy? Fant, yes. Judy, not so fast. All right. Yeah. We'll hopefully get a little bit of a better idea.
Starting point is 00:16:11 The Broncos had their media session before their practice. I don't know if Vic Fangio addressed it afterwards. I didn't see anything. But depending on the severity of it, with KJ Hamler also out, if you're in deeper leagues, like really deep leagues, uh, Deshaun Hamilton apparently has had a good camp and Tim Patrick, those guys are still there. You know, I know they were really disappointing last year, but you know, targets are targets. And so if you're in a 14 team league, 16 team league, you know, you could be looking for an
Starting point is 00:16:37 end of bench guy, especially if you can move Sutton to an IR spot, uh, depending again on the severity of it. That's something I would look at for sure. Okay. Dave, give me a quick... We're going to talk about this game later, Detroit at Chicago, but give me a quick thought on the Lions wide receivers. Has Galladay been out and Danny Amendola limited? Both have hamstring injuries. Could be a big week for Marvin Jones. Could be a rough week for the Lions if they don't have Kenny Galladay.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I would imagine they're going to take the safe route, much like Tampa Bay would do, and not risk putting these players in a precarious position. Bears defense, I don't know if they're going to be as good as people think they are. I know that Khalil Mack's going to be awesome. I'm not sure if Robert Quinn is even healthy at this point. I think I saw him on the injury report.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But yeah, if the Lions don't have Galladay, then that's a problem for them. But Marvin Jones could see a lot of targets. TJ Hockinson's good too. If Galladay doesn't play, are you sitting Matthew Stafford for... Probably. Jimmy Garoppolo or Derek Carr? I like Carr this week.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So I might do that. Stafford would fall way out of the top 12 without Galladay. Sportsline already has him as the 25th quarterback in their projections. With Galladay? With Galladay. I don't know if he could fall much lower. I think the Bears pass rush is going to be good. You know, Quint, whenever you get
Starting point is 00:17:58 a good pass rusher opposite an elite pass rusher, that guy typically tends to play well. And Quint actually played really well last year. He just didn't get a lot of sacks. Let me see if I can find... Well, yeah, and Quinn was a good pass rusher opposite an elite pass rusher last year, right?
Starting point is 00:18:11 Sure. Okay, but he hasn't practiced the last two days. All right, keep an eye on that. Hopefully Friday he practices and that'll make it better for the Bears defense. It'll make it harder on the Lions. A lot of injuries already. Not good.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, Mike Evans did not practice. I mean, should we just not start him even if he does play? You probably shouldn't. I wasn't a big fan coming into the week anyway just because of how Marshawn Lattimore has done covering him. The Saints are going to try and take him away
Starting point is 00:18:38 first and foremost, I'm sure. But if he's not at 100% on top of that, you're definitely not going to want to use him. Alright, the rest of the news. Debo Samuel did not practice and Brandon Iuke was limited. David Montgomery practiced in full. We'll talk about this game. Like I said, but Jamie,
Starting point is 00:18:52 uh, would you give any thoughts of starting Montgomery against, uh, the lions? I mean, if he goes through another full practice today, absolutely. You know,
Starting point is 00:19:03 this, this is shaping up, especially if the lions are going to be banged up offensively like a game the Bears can win. I mean, they can win even if Gallaudet's out there. So I think Montgomery's game script should be okay. It's just a matter of how much they're going to use him. Are they going to risk further injury
Starting point is 00:19:19 to a backfield that we know is thin to begin with? So I'd be a little bit cautious, but, you know, flex. Okay. Miles Sanders was limited in practice. You guys have him outside the top 12, but not far. You know, we just don't know what kind of workload he'll get. Let's see how much he practices on Friday. Miles Sanders.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Jalen Rager practiced in full. We will preview this game, but would anybody consider starting Jalen Rager if he plays? 14-team league, 16-team league, that type of thing. Three receivers, yeah. Like, super deep. Another Saints Bucs note, Marcus Davenport, Saints defensive end. Good player, did not practice with an elbow injury.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And they, we're not even sure they're going to be able to play in New Orleans, unless there's an update on that. They're trying to get approval to play in New Orleans. A very strange thing with all these COVID regulations. I assume they able to play in New Orleans unless there's an update on that. They're trying to get approval to play in a very strange thing with all these COVID regulations. I assume they'll be playing in New Orleans. It seems like a weird time to have to deal with this. Cleveland cornerback Greedy Williams still out
Starting point is 00:20:13 with a shoulder injury. Baltimore offensive coordinator Greg Roman said the backfield touches will change on a weekly basis. Okay. It's awesome. I was talking to Heath about that before FFT yesterday. He said, hopefully that's just J.K. Dobbins through Gus Edwards. And Mark Ingram is fine.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So right now they have Dobbins listed fourth on the depth chart, but Justice Hill is third and he's been hurt. So my guess is we'll see a little bit of J.K. Dobbins this week, but don't play him. And the last note I'll give is Divino Zigbo is on IR. And we talked about that broke late during yesterday's show, but James Robinson, definitely someone you want to get on your roster
Starting point is 00:20:55 and we'll see if we want to start him. And Chris Thompson. He's still available. I don't get it. Chris Thompson. We got some wide receivers. I think he's useless in non-PPR. He is relatively useless in non-PPR, I don't get it. It's because it's Chris Thompson. We got some wide receiver injuries here. I think he's useless in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:21:07 He is relatively useless in non-PPR, but last year against the Eagles, he had seven catches for 68 yards on 10 targets. I would not be surprised if he has a similar stat line this week. Yeah. Man, that whole trying to carry over things from last year is tricky because, like I said, the Chiefs and the Texans gave up the most receiving yards to running backs last season.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And Clyde Edwards either didn't have a catch. And David Johnson had like 30 yards. Wide receiver sleepers. Are there any wide receiver sleepers that you want to talk about considering Evans might be out and Sutton might be out and Galladay might be out? Sure. Who should we look at?
Starting point is 00:21:51 They don't even have to be that deep. If you're going to the waiver wire, Paris Campbell, just to see what he does against that Jaguars defense. Brian Edwards, who's going to be a starter, has had a good camp going against that Panthers defense. Van Jefferson in what's expected to be a high scoring game against the Cowboys, the overrunners over 50. You know, those would be some guys I go look at.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Brandon Ayuk, especially if Deebo Samuel is going to be out, the fact that he's now practicing and looking like he's going to be on track to play. You know, those are the guys I'd look at, not just simply because of you may need them. There's some long-term appeal with those guys. Now on the higher end, you know, Anthony Miller, Steven Sims, you know, guys that we've said for to draft with late round picks Miller's not as available as Sims is, but Sims,
Starting point is 00:22:34 you know, the he's locked into his role. You know, he's going to be the number two receiver, whether he's the slot guy or the outside guy, he's going to play a lot. I'm expecting him to get, you know, a good amount of targets. And then, you know, in terms of Miller, he had a huge game against Detroit last year. And, you know, again, he's locked into his role as the second guy behind Allen Robinson, whether, again, he's playing inside or playing outside. So, you know, those would be the first places that I'd go look. And it'd be nice if he had Sammy Watkins, too. Well, and Anthony Miller is rostered in 59% of leagues. There are a few things.
Starting point is 00:23:10 He had one really good game against the Lions last year and in the other game, Taylor Gabriel caught a touchdown and when Taylor Gabriel didn't play, that's when Anthony Miller really took off and Taylor Gabriel's not on the team anymore. And Anthony Miller has the Giants next week. So he's a beat the waiver wire guy as well. So again, he's the most
Starting point is 00:23:28 owned, I think, of all the wide receivers you named, but only 59%. And somebody to definitely look at. Let's do beat the waiver wire. For those of you who are new to the show, we can take a look. I'm sorry. Scott Miller. The chance of Evans on point. I was going to say three deep guys.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Scott Miller, Jalen Guyton, and Auden Tate. But, I mean, we're talking deep for all three. Miller's the best of those three just because it looks like he's got a path to play if Evans is out. All right, beat the waiver wire. If you want to take a peek ahead to week two or just beyond, it's not a bad time.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Beat everybody to the waiver wire, especially Friday night. Everybody's busy doing fun things Friday night. Go make some ad drops in your fantasy league. That's what cool people do. That's what you do on Friday nights. I wish I did. I should take more advantage of it because everybody's in on Saturday night making their claims.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Jalen Rager, Alshon Jeffrey. Rager, 49% rostered. Jeffrey, 17% rostered. Not necessarily week two plays, but... Rager might. Yeah, maybe. I don't know if you'll see what the matchup's like week two plays, but maybe I mean, I mean, I don't know if you'll see you'll see what the matchups like against the Rams, but quarterbacks Dwayne Haskins
Starting point is 00:24:32 would be a long shot. Ryan Tannehill against the Jaguars bigger whenever they have, you know, those game scripts, you just got to assume they're going to run all over them. Yeah. Baker Mayfield against the Bengals on Thursday. A few DSTs Cleveland against the Bengals on Thursday. A few DSTs.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Cleveland against the Bengals. Tennessee against Jacksonville. Burrow, okay. Tampa Bay against Carolina. I mean, Tennessee, 62%. And they could be really good defense. Alan Lazard against Detroit, 61% rostered. Scotty Miller against Carolina. Anthony Miller against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Steven Sims at Arizona. Just some names I came up with there. Go ahead and beat the waiver wire. I know our threshold is like 60% or less for this type of thing, but James Robinson is still sitting at 61%. Oh, wow. Okay. And they have the Titans next week.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Wouldn't hurt. Just would not hurt. Alright, the Stardometer for some games that we'll preview late in the show in case you don't tune in for the entirety of these marathons. Jared Goff against Dallas Sunday night. Seven. Five.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Any Rams running back in that game? Also five. One. Five. Any Rams running back in that game? Also five. One. Five. Who's as high as a five? Akers would be as high as a five. Michael Gallup in that game.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Wait, we're scoring a scale of one to ten, right? Not one to five. One to fifty. Oh, okay. Then twenty-five. One to ten. Michael Gallup. Eight. Yeah, okay. 25. One to 10. Michael Gallup. Eight.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah, seven. Stardom over Cooper? Yes. I like them all. Well, for the three fantasy managers that have both, start Gallup over Cooper. Emmanuel Sanders against Tampa Bay. Two.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah. Yeah, number two wide receivers really crushed Tampa Bay late in the year. They got pretty good against number ones. They gave up a lot to the number two guys. But their secondary really is worth watching. Good young players kind of emerged late last year. Rob Gronkowski at New Orleans. Is Evans playing?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Good question. I'm going to say no. If Evans is not playing, I imagine he's going to play more. If Evans is playing, then I think you'll see less of Gronk. So Evans in, I'll say two. Evans out, I'll say three. I was going to say five. Okay, five is a big number for Dave.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Jared Cook against Tampa Bay. Seven. Eight. He's got to score. It's got to score. It's got to score. Tariq Cohen against Detroit. Now that Montgomery's coming back, I think he's more of like a seven.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Nine in PPR, two in non-PPR. Right. And Kerryon Johnson at Chicago. Four. You know. I do. Five. Five. I should. I do. Five. Five.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I should have gotten that. Oh, man. All right. I haven't picked a bonanza. I'm not sure I'm going to. I don't really like it. I'm so over it. Let's go to Arizona.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You have to pick a bonanza. Do I? Yeah. Go, Aki. Go Raiders, Panthers. Look at how far you've come, Jamie, because it used to be that you didn't want him to pick a bonanza and now here we are in 2020 and you're it's par for 2020
Starting point is 00:27:51 you're asking him to pick a bonanza i just don't want him to weasel out of things i hate when people weasel out of things it's very frustrating all right i'm gonna pick one that's a little surprising and it's this game right here arizona at San Francisco. So the Bonanza is just like all the fantasy, like most of the players that you'd start in fantasy hit. And the total here is actually high. It's gone up from 45.5 to 48, and the Niners are seven-point favorites here. All right, my stat of the game for this
Starting point is 00:28:22 was actually I've already given it about the teams that finished last against tight ends and where they finished the following year. It's not always, you know, a translation one year to the next, but still start Kittle. Another stat of the day that I could give is that the 49ers were really not good against mobile quarterbacks last year, including Kyler Murray, who scored 26 and 30 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But Murray, Wilson, Jackson, Mahomes, they all exceeded their yards per game averages when they faced San Francisco. That was a bit of an Achilles heel for them. Anyway, Kyler Murray is someone that I think we should debate here. Dave, you have him sixth, Jamie 14th, and Heath has him 11th. So, Dave, you're high on Kyler Murray this week. I'm high on Kyler Murray this year.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And I think that Kyler Murray can add up some rushing yards. And I think the offense is going to have to go more so through him than Kenyon Drake. This won't be a game where Kenyon Drake gets 25 touches and limits the pass attempts and touches, really, for Kyler Murray. And he's got DeAndre Hopkins now. Hopkins absolutely can add a lot to that passing game. I think San Francisco is going to have their hands full.
Starting point is 00:29:32 All right, Jamie, 14th for Kyler Murray. Yeah, I mean, you're not benching him. I don't think you're benching him. I think you might be. Well, I mean, if I had Roethlisberger or Cam, I would bench him for those guys because I think those guys have a higher ceiling this week. So, you know, just looking at the matchup, I like that Fred Warner's back for the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So that defense will, you know, hopefully be at full strength. And I think you're going to see, you know, a unit that's motivated to shut down a guy that beat them up last year. So, you know, we we know usually how much teams spend time working on week one. Robert Sala was talking about this yesterday about how good Kyler Murray is. He certainly got their attention with how he performed against them last year. So I think he'll still be in that 20 point range. I think, you know, like what you got from a Holmes or Deshaun Watson, he'll be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Not maybe to the same level or same way that those guys did it. You know, I don't know if there'll be garbage time like Watson or just a three touchdown minimal yards type of game, but I just expect his numbers to be lower. I don't think he's going to be 26 or more points like he was against him last year. I'm expecting to be in the 18 to 20 range. And I don't think he's a slam dunk start by any stretch.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Okay, so who's the best running back in this game? San Francisco, Arizona, best running back. Mostert. Mostert and non-PPR. I'll still take Drake and PPR. And they're like number two guys. Yeah, both Mustarts. Marlon Mack ahead of them?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yes. No. No? Okay. Any rookies other than Edward Zealer? Probably not, right? No. Okay. Alright. So Drake, let's see. Moster most are any wide receivers that you'd go with you know what like let's just start these guys they're not going to overthink it um
Starting point is 00:31:13 number two guys uh the wide receivers so are you starting a i think we're on arizona now deandre hop deandre hopkins any? I wouldn't play him in DFS, but I think you should obviously start him if you drafted him in the second round. We'll see how much he sees of Richard Sherman. That'll be a fun matchup, but I'm sure they're going to try and feature him as much
Starting point is 00:31:37 as they should. Seven, eight targets is probably on the table for sure. Foreigners typically keep Sherman to one side of the field, so he'll see Sherman mostly when he lines up on Sherman side. Otherwise it'll be Emmanuel Mosley on the other side. I bet you'll see Hopkins in the slot quite a bit. And I bet when they get inside the 10, that they're going to scheme up some plays,
Starting point is 00:31:56 try and get them one-on-one with Kwon Williams or Emmanuel Mosley. There are other cornerbacks, not Richard Sherman. I think he'll be a top 15 receiver this week, which really isn't surprising. Boy, the 49ers really struggled against number ones late in the year. Devontae Adams twice, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones, Cooper Cup, DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Stefan Diggs, Tyree Kills, Sammy Watkins. They either had 98 or more yards or a touchdown or both.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And that was just in San Francisco's last nine games. So I don't know if it's a good matchup, but I think it was proven last year that it's not an unbeatable matchup. So you can start Hopkins. You guys do not have Jimmy Garoppolo in your top 24. Heath has him 16th. His two best games of the season were against the Cardinals. They gave up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Garoppolo threw four touchdowns in both games, scored 36 fantasy points. Jamie, no love for Jimmy G. Well, I mean, you know, not having Debo most likely and, you know, Brandon Ayuk and not 100%. It's about the weapons that he's going to have out there. So, I mean, Kittle can only do so much. He could have a two touchdown game and Garoppolo can get a third from somebody else. That wouldn't shock me. But, you know, I think you look at what the 49ers mo is is to run the ball i think one thing we got to keep in mind
Starting point is 00:33:07 um is the fires that are happening in on the west coast uh you know they said that the air quality wasn't bad for them in practice so far but who knows what happens by the time we get to sunday so just keep that in the back of your mind when looking at this game that you know the the area is being impacted. I'm sure you've seen the images by now about what it looks like there. First off, hopefully everybody's okay. I think that's something that could impact both teams if the air quality is not good.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Oh, man. Those pictures are just terrifying. Hopefully everybody's safe out there. San Francisco running backs, Mostert's the only one we're looking at. McKinnon is an interesting DFS play because he's super cheap and he couldn't end up catching four or five passes. That's what he does. He's a third down back.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If Deebo Samuel plays, would you consider starting him? He had seven targets in the first game. He had a monster game last time against him. He did, but George Kittle didn't play in that game. He had 134 yards. When Kittle played, he had just 40 yards the first game. He had a monster game last time, I guess. He did, but George Kittle didn't play in that game. He had 134 yards. When Kittle played, he had just 40 yards in that game against Arizona. No, I wouldn't feel good starting him.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Okay. All right. So it's just Kittle, basically, in the passing game. And San Francisco's DST is top five. Seattle at Atlanta. All right. Let me just ask you this. You got the Atlanta 18.6 points per game in their last eight games defensively.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's what they gave up. In regulation, they also gave up a touchdown in overtime. So a little bit more than that if you count that. Their defense got a lot better. Seattle just added Jamal Adams. Is there a chance this game is not the bonanza that people think it will be? Or do you see it being a real high-scoring, good fantasy game?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Seattle-Atlanta. High-scoring, good fantasy game. Yeah. And did you just Azerstat the 18.6 points per game? I mean, if you were going to look at the amount of points the team gave up, would you count overtime or would you just get regulation? Yes, of course. All right, so it's probably like 19 and a half.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Was the team on the field when they gave up the points? I don't know. It could have been a special teams touchdown. Yeah, but still less than 20 points per game allowed in their last eight. Which is good. Did you know not one quarterback all year scored more than 24 fantasy points in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues against Seattle? And that week one, Dalton scored 24. Nobody scored more than passing touchdown leagues against Seattle. Week one, Dalton scored 24.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Nobody scored more than 24 all season against Seattle. Do you think Matt Ryan does that this week? Yes. Yeah. It'll be fun. They have no pass rush. They have a pass rush that's going to be very
Starting point is 00:35:42 limited. That's when Ryan typically thrives. Most quarterbacks typically thrive. But this could be a good opportunity for him to get off to a great start, especially with, you know, his full complement of weapons with his new tight end as well. So it should be fun to see how all three of those guys operate. I don't want to make this game overly simplistic here, but start a running back and two wide receivers on each team?
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yep. Yes. And start Hayden Hurst. I don't love Hurst. Oh, how come? Because he's going to get Jamal Adams. Maybe. I mean, he's going to new defense.
Starting point is 00:36:13 We'll see if they use him in a similar way. That's true. But if they don't, then it's going to be one of their linebackers on Hurst, and that would be a better matchup for Hurst, but they still have good linebackers in Seattle. Like, they can cover, they can rush, they can tackle. Yeah, but at the same time, they were
Starting point is 00:36:27 second to last against tight ends last year. They allowed a ton of yardage. I think they only allowed six touchdowns to tight ends. So it would take volume. It's the same story that we talked about with Hayden Hurst all offseason long. If he gets the volume that Austin Hooper had, he had seven and a half targets per game last year. If he gets that, then it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:36:44 who he's playing against. You're going to start Hayden Hurst every week we don't know if that volume is going to be there but why would you not anticipate that a Dirk Cutter's offense for a guy that they've been just hyping up all offseason like why are they not going to give him because they've got Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley but they had Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley last year too yeah I know but those are the better playmakers at least I think they are better playmakers than Hayden Hurst. We'll see. Look, if you have Hayden Hurst, he's your only tight end. Go ahead and start him.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I'm a little worried that he could have a tough time picking up yardage with Jamal Adams in coverage. If you want to know how the Jets were against tight ends last year, because the Seahawks were terrible, but they obviously were great. The Jets were great. Well, so what I've noticed is that a lot of fantasy points to tight ends is just dependent on the tight ends you play. And the Jets gave up the fourth fewest points to tight ends. You look at the game log, though, they didn't face a lot of good ones. They had very easy competition. Maybe they were really good. I don't know. But some teams were truly bad against tight ends. I think the Seahawks were one of those two teams. Maybe there'll be a lot better this year with Jamal Adams. I mean, it would make sense. Um,
Starting point is 00:37:48 and they do have great linebackers for sure. Who, which running back do you like better? Gurley or Carson? Carson, but it's close. This should be a good game for Gurley. Every time Gurley's healthy,
Starting point is 00:37:57 he's going to have a chance for good numbers. Uh, Gurley or Kenyon Drake? Gurley. I believe I have Gurley ranked higher. Yeah, I think they're pretty close in the rankings. Okay, and DK Metcalf. Is he a slam dunk start this week?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yes, a very good number two wide receiver. Wow, top 20 for you guys. 23rd for Heath. How about that? Okay, look, start these players. Russell gauge. What do you think about him as a sleeper this week? That'd be bad for Aiden Hurst.
Starting point is 00:38:30 If he ends up as a sleeper, it could be bad for Julio or Ridley too. I mean, you know, it's Matt Ryan's not throwing four touchdowns. You know, that'd be a surprise if he, if he has that type of game,
Starting point is 00:38:39 I'd love it. But I think you're looking at, you know, probably two touchdowns from him. And so who's going to be the one that scores those two touchdowns? We know Julio sometimes has a hard time finding the end zone, but puts up good yardage. So, I mean, obviously Russell Gage comes into play when you have a team that throws the ball as much as the Falcons throw the ball. But I'm not starting Russell Gage in week one unless I'm in a 14 or 16 team league and I just lost Mike Evans and Kenny Galladay.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You may have had that scenario or Sutton's not out. So you could be desperate. But yeah, he's at the tail end of the guys that we talked about earlier, sir. Yeah, he had full practice on Thursday. I know he'd been dealing with a groin injury toward the end of the training camp and practices before the season.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It looks like he'll play. It's a pretty easy game, Adam. You start all the main guys that you drafted to be starters. All right. And when these two teams met in week eight, Adam. You start all the main guys that you drafted to be starters. All right. And when these two teams met in Week 8, Matt Schaub was the quarterback. He threw 52 times for 460 yards, and basically everybody had a good game.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Jones at 152 yards. Ridley had four for 70. Hooper, 665 and a touchdown. And Russell Gage had seven catches for 58 yards. Last thing I'm going to say, because Russell Wilson's top five, Matt Ryan's seventh, the last nine quarterbacks to face the Falcons, here's what they did.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Here are their fantasy points. Six point per passing touchdown leagues. And for those of you who want like a reference point, I think, you know, 21, 22 fantasy points is a solid week in a six point per passing touchdown league.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Russell Wilson had 19. Drew Brees had 11. Kyle Allen had five. Jameis Winston had 19. Drew Brees had 11. Kyle Allen had 5. Jameis Winston had 29. Drew Brees had 13. Kyle Allen had 19. Garoppolo had 14. Minshew had 16. Wilson
Starting point is 00:40:16 had 18. The Falcons defense really stepped up second half of the year. We expect a high scoring game. Let's see what happens. I just want to throw it out there. Let's see what happens. And they're getting Keanu Neal back, too. Philadelphia is at Washington. We need to make mention of one other thing. Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Two other things. I'm just looking at the Seattle injury report. Dwayne Brown, their left tackle, didn't practice on Thursday. He was limited on Wednesday. That would be problematic, even though the Falcons' pass rush isn't expected to be dominant. And Will Disley, he actually popped up on the injury report on Thursday. He practiced on Wednesday with the Achilles. Maybe he's got a shot to come back and contribute for the first three or four games of
Starting point is 00:40:54 the season. Deep league stash. Yeah. Tight end premium leagues. He should be on. Is he better than Greg Olson? He shouldn't be. Who would you rather have on your roster right now? Greg Olson, just because of health. By the end of the season, I hope it would be Disley just because of what his upside is. But I'm sure Disley's going to be limited in what he plays and his snaps and all those things as they're still working him back from the Achilles. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Philadelphia is at Washington. And look, there are more exciting games on the slate that we'll get to. But this one, I think, has some tough fantasy calls, guys uh like Terry McLaurin and how aggressive you want to be with Miles Sanders the last four running backs that faced Washington or that face yeah Washington I guess I'll call them that Washington last year I get so tripped up um Aaron Jones Miles Sanders Saquon Barkley Ezekiel Elliott they all scored 24 or more non-PPR fantasy points. They destroyed this team, but both teams are expecting to have better defenses this year,
Starting point is 00:41:51 which wouldn't be so hard for Washington. They were 27th in scoring last year. All right, first of all, Dwayne Haskins, any interest? No. Two quarterback league at best. Any Washington running back, any interest? Gibson, if you're in a pinch. Yeah. I'm starting Gibson a few leagues.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Can you give me who you're starting Gibson over? Oh, it's a trash pile, but carry on. I mean, the leagues where I went, one running back, modified zero RB, whatever you want to call it, where I took one running back and then a bunch of receivers. He's the second option or flex. Yeah, or the leagues where you took a lot of rookie running backs and he was among them, starting them over Aker, Swift, Dobbins. I think it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yep. If David Montgomery plays, would you play Gibson or Montgomery? I'd play Gibson in PPR, but I'd play Montgomery in non-PPR. All right, give me a- I just think this is a game where they're going to throw the ball to him quite a bit. Based on game script and how I think it's going to go. This JD McKissick starting thing is not an issue for me.
Starting point is 00:42:51 How many carries? How many catches? Obviously, total guess for Gibson. I'd say five to eight carries and five to eight catches. All right. Sure. Who's a better sleeper
Starting point is 00:43:07 this week? Stephen Sims, Russell Gage, Paris Campbell? I'd take Sims, but I can see the case for Campbell. God, I really feel like Sims and Campbell are about the same, but I think Sims is a little safer.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Terry McLaurin, let's talk about him. Jamie, 24th. Heath, 24th, 21st in PPR. Dave, just outside the top 30 for McLaurin. Basically, a low-end number two, high-end number three for all of you guys. McLaurin, 125
Starting point is 00:43:41 yards and 130 yards, and a touchdown both times he faced philadelphia last year um why not higher in the rankings i guess dave well philadelphia improved their pass coverage with darius slay and i i've come to the conclusion that darius slay is not an elite cornerback but he's still worthy of being left in man coverage if Philadelphia so chooses. And I think that they're going to do something to try and limit Terry McLaurin. And you could say, well, they could have done that last year. Their defense, especially their pass coverage, was trash last year.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And so I think that they're going to improve in that regard. They're going to try and take McLaurin away as best as they can. And I think their pass rush should be okay, even without Hargrave on the D line because that Washington offensive line is in excuse me such bad shape that uh that I could see McLaurin having a less than ideal game he had something like 70 yards against the Lions last year that was when he was taking on Slay Slay was in coverage on him most of the time and when he wasn't in coverage he actually had better yardage because the defense or the offense knew to go after whoever McLaurin was against when it wasn't Slay. I would imagine that you're going to see
Starting point is 00:44:47 McLaurin, like I said, struggle just a little. The thing with Philadelphia's defense is they don't usually move their corners around. Jim Schwartz had Darius Slay in Detroit, and he didn't move from there either. I think Slay is an elite cornerback, so it's going to be tough for McLaurin if they
Starting point is 00:45:03 matched up against him. The game you referenced, he had five catches for 72 yards against Detroit last year when Slay was following him around because that's what Slay did with the Lions. I was reading a story this week that Schwartz was at, or this offseason, Schwartz was asked about, are you going to let Slay travel and move around with guys? And he sort of kind of hemmed and hawed about it. My guess is they're probably going to keep him to one side. So if McLaurin lines up there opposite him, it's going to be a little frustrating, but I think based on how this offense looks, well, I mean, you've heard me say this since the beginning of the off season, I like Steven Sims. McLaurin is by far and away the alpha in this offense. And so, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:37 if he comes away with this without eight plus targets, I'd be shocked, especially if the game goes as you anticipate it going. So just based on volume, I have him lower probably for the same concerns Dave has, just based on the secondary being better and this defense being better. But I still think if you have Terry McCorn, you're starting him. These secondaries for both teams are very different than what they were last year. The Reds, the football team added Kendall Fuller and Ronald Darby. The Philadelphia Eagles added Avante Maddox, Nikkel Roby Coleman, who's just going to be their slot corner,
Starting point is 00:46:06 and Darius Slay. So we'll see, because they were both really bad against wide receivers. Eagles allowed the third most fantasy points to wide receivers. Washington, the ninth most. So now my next question, Deshaun Jackson or Terry McLaurin?
Starting point is 00:46:20 I'd go Jackson just based on the upside and given what the... I feel more comfortable with the Philadelphia secondary and their improvements as opposed to the Washington football team secondary. Plus, you know, Doug Peterson has a play caller. I think we'll find ways to get the Sean Jackson,
Starting point is 00:46:34 the ball. And we've seen it, you know, when he's, when he's healthy, he puts up good numbers, especially when he has favorable matchups, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:39 So we saw it in week one last year, we saw it in week one the year before, you know? So there, there's a decent track record here for Deshaun Jackson when he's right. It's almost like how you always talk about Adrian Peterson. When he has his legs underneath him, you want to buy into it. Same thing with an older receiver as well.
Starting point is 00:46:53 He's their version of Sammy Watkins. And I would take Jackson whether Rager plays or not. Okay. Fair enough. Very cheap too. DFS, very cheap. Absolutely. Carson Wentz. We like him. He's like around 12th for you guys. Yeah. DFS. Very cheap. Absolutely. Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:47:05 We like him. He's like around 12th for you guys. Yeah. Like don't love. I originally had him as a sit because I was worried about the offense. I was worried about the offensive line holding up for him because I really, I think the Washington defensive line could be really good. Like Chase Young's an animal and those defensive line,
Starting point is 00:47:23 all first rounders on that line and i i liked whence i know what his upside is and that's what kept him close to being a top 12 quarterback and as brady lost evans and if stafford loses galladay he's just going to keep moving up higher so yes he's a start okay would you start kyler murray or carson wentz murray right all Carson Wentz. Murray. Right. All right. It makes sense based on the conversation we had earlier. Tom Brady or Wentz? Wentz. I think Wentz right now. I mean, if Evans plays, that's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But with Evans trending in the wrong direction and not being 100%, it probably makes more sense to go with him. Right. Yeah. Now that we know that Evans, if he plays, even if he plays, would be less than 100%, I think it's easy to go with Wentz. Yeah, unless they've just been resting him and he's going to come out and be fine.
Starting point is 00:48:09 So we've already talked about Russell Gage and Paris Campbell and some of these deep sleepers and Stephen Sims. Any interest in Greg Ward? Not if Rager plays. I mean, you know, how many targets is he going to get? He's going to be their slot receiver, right? Yeah. And now they've got Deshaun healthy, and Rager could be healthy,
Starting point is 00:48:27 and they're going to give Arcega-Whiteside a chance to play on the outside. And if they don't have Rager, and even if they do have Rager, you're going to see a lot of two tight end sets. How much playing time is Ward going to have? And when you've got that question for a player going into a week, I don't think you can feel good about them in DFS or deeper leagues, which are the only two places you'd even think about Ward. All right, we got to finish up
Starting point is 00:48:47 with this game here. Miles Sanders is a top 15 back. He's not a top 10 back. Could be a little bit concerned about his workload, but I would think Miles Sanders is going to be started in 90% of leagues or more. Boston Scott or Antonio Gibson?
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'd play Gibson, but if we get reports Sunday that Sanders is going to have a limited snap count, you've seen what Scott can do. He had two games last year with double-digit carries, and he was over 10 non-PPR points in those two games. And you saw what he was when Sanders left Week 17 against the Giants. He was an absolute monster.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So I would be very inclined to play Scott in DFS if Sanders, you get that type of report. And I'd be very inclined to use Scott as a flex option over Gibson if we get that type of news. Scott's under 5,000 on DraftKings, right? I believe so. I don't know why he would be. 4,800.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I think that's a good price even if Sanders plays. Okay. Start Zach Ertz, sit Dallas Goddard, and the Eagles DST. Six for Jamie, eighth for Dave, third for Heath. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, Green Bay at Minnesota. Can Aaron Rodgers finally have a good game in Minnesota?
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Starting point is 00:51:07 Would you start either of the quarterbacks? I'd prefer not to, but, you know, Rodgers is so interesting because of the Hunter injury. You know, so they're lucky they got Ngakwe, you know, because now that pass rush is still going to be decent. But, you know, there shouldn't be a lot of pressure on Rodgers. And, you know we we talked about this game a little bit yesterday on hq and heath brought up a good point in terms of
Starting point is 00:51:32 these two teams clearly want to slow the game down and lean on their ground game you know and throw the ball when they have to i'm going to anticipate the pass attempts being low so i wouldn't be surprised if rogers had like a 202 type of game but i don't think there's going to be a high ceiling here unless just things go really out of whack either way. So, you know, it's almost like that Seattle-Atlanta game. You kind of know who you're playing. It's like you know who you're playing for this. You're playing the top receiver on each team.
Starting point is 00:51:58 You're playing the running back, top running back on each team, and that's really it. Like Lazard is a flyer for sure. Yeah, right. Well, weard is a flyer for sure. Yeah, right. Well, we got new cornerbacks for the Vikings. No Everson Griffin, obviously. No Daniel Hunter. New starting quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:52:12 New starting quarterbacks. They've been there for a while. Yeah, you're right. Right. But no more Waynes, no more Rhodes. We'll see what this defense looks like here. Very new, very different defense. Pretty different defense. Aaron Jones, I was surprised, very new, very different default, pretty different defense.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Uh, Aaron Jones, I was surprised. It's only 17th for you, Jamie. Seventh for Dave, uh, 10th and PPR for Dave, 18th for Jamie. Um, he crushed the Vikings last year. We had 23 carries in both games. Just don't know what the workload is going to be. Yeah. I mean, again, you're not, you're not benching him. Just a lot of running backs.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I like a little bit better. So, um, any sleepers in the, I don't mean to shortchange this game, but you're right. It's, it's a to be? Yeah, I mean, again, you're not benching him. Just a lot of running backs I like a little bit better. Any sleepers in the team? I don't mean to shortchange this game, but you're right. It's a simple game. We're not going to start the tight ends, are we? Not with confidence. Yeah, I mean, you know, tight end premium league, you know, Irv Smith
Starting point is 00:52:57 and Kyle Rudolph are dark throws just because you don't know how each guy is going to be used in what capacity. You know, are they just red zone threats? Is Smith going to be split out a little bit more? You know, that's the thing I think you'd look for if you're hoping for him. And then Robert Tanyan, you know, how many people are going to buy into him now until you've seen actually something that he can do productive. So, or that's productive, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:53:16 So I think it's again, you know, Lazard is really the wild card. You know, I don't think anybody's starting Justin Jefferson because he may not, you know, see the field as much as we hope early on. I don't think anybody's starting Justin Jefferson because he may not see the field as much as we hope early on. I don't think anybody's starting B.C. Johnson. They've been very excited in Green Bay about Marcos Valdez-Scantling, but we went down this road before. So how many opportunities is he going to get target-wise? That'd be my concern.
Starting point is 00:53:41 He's somebody that I'd keep an eye on. Packers do play Detroit next week. So if you wanted to deep stash MVS or Tanya, you could, I mean, if they have a good game this week, there's a chance they could have another one next week against the lines.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So last question, uh, will be, let's do some Aaron Rogers, Aaron Rogers, or Derek Carr. I have a Roger's higher Aaron Rogers or cam. Cam. I believe I have Rogersgers higher Aaron Rodgers or Cam? Cam
Starting point is 00:54:05 I believe I have Rodgers higher than Cam Aaron Rodgers or Garoppolo? Rodgers Rodgers or Burrow? Rodgers Also Rodgers All right, Minnesota's DST is 10th or 11th in the rankings depending on the analysts
Starting point is 00:54:19 Green Bay's DST is somewhere between 12 and 16 They are okay plays this week Detroit is at Chicago Stat of the game Green Bay's DST is somewhere between 12 and 16. They are okay plays this week. Detroit is at Chicago. Stat of the game, Mitchell Trubisky, in his last three games against the Lions, has scored 41, 24, and 29 fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues. And the Lions' secondary, I mean, it really could be bad.
Starting point is 00:54:41 We will see. But they did add Desmond Trufant, but they lost Darius Slay. They traded Quandre Diggs midseason. You got to mention that they drafted Jeffrey Okuda. They did, yep. Rookie out of Ohio State. And we don't know if he's going to be able to be impactful right away. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:58 the whole defense looks bad. Come on, let's feel it. Trubisky. I think he's absolutely the sneaky DFS play of the week. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think so. But Trubisky or Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Rodgers. Rodgers. All right. So it's a little bold. It's a little bold. But there's something there maybe. All right. For Detroit, the best running back will be
Starting point is 00:55:25 carry on Johnson yep the best running back will be carry on Johnson but I mean they were very very excited about Adrian Peterson yesterday based on reports so it could be ugly okay this game obviously
Starting point is 00:55:40 well we'll stick we'll stick with Detroit Matthew Stafford if Gallaudet plays must start? No. No, I don't think he's a must start. We can't say that Brady is not a must start if we know that his top receiver is not 100%. And then say that Stafford is when his top receiver is not 100%.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And Stafford's passing game isn't as deep or rich as Brady's. That's not far off. I mean, it's not as talented at the top because Godwin's obviously much better than Marvin Jones if you're comparing the two big outside guys. Right. And then so if we take them away, who's next best? Is it Hockinson? Or would you take one of the tight ends?
Starting point is 00:56:26 But yeah, but it's not like the Lions don't have a good passing attack. They have a great passing attack. Right. Sure. I think you're right. If you take Evans and put him at less than 100% and go at less than 100% in what are both not easy matchups. The Bears defense, you said it best at the start of the show they're not the same defense they're not going to be as elite as they were two years ago when they
Starting point is 00:56:49 did a great job against stafford stafford and play them last year because of his back injury yeah but this is still a good defense that has had plenty of time to get ready for this game and they're going to test that offensive line certainly khalil mack as we've seen can wreck a game by himself and and blow up a quarterback by himself. And so if you have reservations about Stafford, who we know was a borderline starter based on his draft position, you can go a different direction. I know Dave doesn't agree with Cam, but I'd start Cam over him. I would start Ben Roethlisberger over him. I think those are two guys. And Jared Goff, I think I'd start him over him as well. Just games that either have favorable matchups or high projected totals in terms of golf you know i think those are scenarios for me i'd buy
Starting point is 00:57:30 into more so than i would starting staffers and by the time everybody looks at this rothlisberger and golf will be ranked ahead of stafford for me maybe cam too so it's it's going to be close it just depends on how you really feel about cam and whether or not he can be that dude in New England. What should the Kenny Galladay manager do if Kenny Galladay plays? Cry? Well, if he plays, what do you do? Cry and ask to do the draft over again? If he plays, I think you start him. Over Marvin Jones? Who would you
Starting point is 00:57:58 rank ahead? Yeah, over Marvin Jones. I think you still start him as a top 20 type of wide receiver. I would start T.Y. Hilton over him. I would start T.Y. Hilton over him. I would start D.J. Chark over him. I would start Deshaun Jackson over him. I was telling people last night, and I'm sure you guys were as well, when in questions that you got on Twitch, Fuller over Galladay,
Starting point is 00:58:17 just with the safety factor of knowing Fuller was going to play. So, yeah, I wouldn't start Marvin Jones over him because if they feel comfortable enough that Galladay is out there, you got to hope that it's not like what we saw with Brandon Cooks where he's not 100%. And if you hear, you know, Matt Patricia obviously comes from the Patriots, you know, family. So he's going to, you know, talk the same way Bill Belichick talks because he thinks that's the right way to operate. He said that, you know, they're just being cautious with not practicing, you not practicing Galladay.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I would not be surprised if we get Friday afternoon limited for Galladay, questionable, limited for Evans, questionable, and we're going to come down to Sunday as a game-time decision. So just be prepared. If you don't have better options, you hope Galladay goes out there and plays well.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And if you do have better options, you bench him. All right, let's say Galladay plays. Who's a better option? Anthony Miller or Marvin Jones? Jones. Jones. I am very excited about Allen Robinson. Yeah. This game is a good DFS option.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I mean, he's probably worth the price tag. Just looks like a great, great setup for him. TJ Hawkinson. Starter set. just looks like a great great setup for him um i tj hockinson starter set if galaday is out i think it's easier to start him if galaday is in i'd be a little bit cautious but you know depending on what you drafted you know i'm not going to drop hockinson to go get eric ebron or jack doyle you know just based on them having good matchups but if you had an extra extra roster spot, you would start Ebron and Doyle over, over. I would personally,
Starting point is 00:59:47 but I, you know, that may change if we find out holidays out. Okay. Wouldn't change for me. I would go with those guys. Would you start David Montgomery or Marvin Jones? Jones PPR.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah. Montgomery. None. I forget who you compared him to earlier, but same. Okay. Um, would you start David Montgomery or Tariq Cohen?
Starting point is 01:00:08 I'd start Montgomery in non-PPR. Cohen way ahead of Montgomery in PPR. If Montgomery gets in another full practice, I think I would take Montgomery in both. Okay. Lions, by the way, allowed the third most receiving yards to running backs. And a Chicago running back caught a touchdown in both games.
Starting point is 01:00:25 One week it was Cohen, one week it was David Montgomery. Cohen has scored in three of his last four against Detroit. Alright, I like it. David Montgomery or James Robinson? Montgomery. Alright. I mean, couldn't you see a path to Montgomery getting 20 carries in this game?
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah. That sounds a little silly because he's been dealing with the injury, but if he's really okay. 20 carries in this game. Yeah. That sounds a little silly because he's been dealing with the injury, but if he's really okay. 20 seems high. 16. Okay. I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It's 80% of 20. You're right. Okay. Then Bears DST is top 10. Two more games. Fun ones. Tampa Bay, New Orleans, and Dallas and the Rams.
Starting point is 01:01:03 One of my least favorite things is doing the, well, if this guy plays played like we have to, but it's so annoying. Yeah. We've already been doing it for 40 minutes. It's so annoying. These injuries are just so big. So Tampa Bay and New Orleans stat of the game in their last six games,
Starting point is 01:01:17 the box held Julio Jones to 68 yards and 78 yards in two games. DJ Chark to 47 yards. Kenny Galladay to 44 yards. And DeAndre Hopkins to 23 yards. And I don't believe any of them caught a touchdown. This became one of the toughest matchups for number one wide receivers. By no means am I saying sit Michael Thomas.
Starting point is 01:01:39 But also in those six games, Calvin Ridley, Russell Gage, D.D. Westbrook, Marcus Johnson, Zach Paschal, Danny Amendola, all of them scored 15 or more PPR fantasy points. So that's why I brought up Emmanuel Sanders a little bit earlier. Traquan Smith scores a touchdown in basically every home game. But is Michael Thomas the only Saints wide receiver that you're starting? Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yes. I would be encouraged, though, if Sanders comes out and has, even if he doesn't have a great game, if he's anywhere close to seven or eight targets, because then it shows you that they're finally going to use a second receiver because the other second receivers that they've had the last three is going to be a breakout season for Traquan Smith. Those two things can't happen if Michael Thomas is still north of 150 targets and Kamara is healthy. So is it going to be some shots in Traquan's direction? Is it going to be Sanders just getting, you know, a hefty workload? And again, seven, eight targets for him would be hefty workload. So those are the two things that I'm looking forward to seeing in how the Saints use the non-Michael Thomas receiver. Are you starting anyone in this game other than
Starting point is 01:02:50 Kamara, Thomas, Godwin? That includes the tight ends. That includes the Tampa Bay running backs. I would start Jared Cook. Remember, he was drafted in a lot of leagues as a starter. He scored in each of the two games against Tampa Bay last year. And in the last eight games that Breeze and Cook played together, he has seven touchdowns. Now that's not seven games of touchdowns, but he has seven touchdowns in those eight games.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So he's a red zone option. You know, he just doesn't see a ton of targets. And so he's not good in PPR unless he scores. But this is a matchup where he can find the end zone. You know, if you're going to exploit this defense, it's the middle, it's not on the outside based on how those corners have played. So, and that's typically how you attack a Todd Bowles defense too. So I, I think if, if Cook is right and breeze is going to, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:37 find the open guy, which he typically does better than anybody in the world. You know, this is a, this is a game where, you know, Cook has an opportunity to be a top 10 type of fantasy tight end and you don't run at the bucks you throw on the bucks their run defense is expected to still be very good so best in football more past attempts for breeze more throws targets for cook should be there yeah these two run defenses are among the best in football and i mentioned this i don't remember if I mentioned this on Twitch, I think it was on Twitch,
Starting point is 01:04:05 but last year, Sheldon Rankin's defensive tackle for the saints may not have really been himself because he tore his Achilles late in 2018. He played in 2019, but they, you know, I was just reading a couple of weeks ago or last week. He could be even better this year.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And that run defense was already stacked, which is why for net and Ronald Jones, you got to sit right. Plus, you don't know certain workload, right? You just like Bruce Arian saying that they're going to give a heavy role to for net is troubling. If you're the Ronald Jones fantasy manager, if you were planning on playing Jones as a flex, and it's it's frustrating from the standpoint of you want to play Fournette, but you shouldn't. You clearly drafted this guy depending on when you drafted. If it was early in the process, he was drafted as a starter for you. If it was late in the process before he got signed by Tampa Bay, you may have gotten a steal and don't have to play him.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But I would avoid the whole thing altogether because McCoy may be playing a lot in passing downs. So it just could be completely ugly. All right, Tom Brady or... I think I already did this stuff. Tom Brady or Derek Carr if Mike Evans does not play? I'd still play Brady. Ooh, Carr, man.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm going Carr. I get it. I get it. But I don't want to make a transaction to pick up another quarterback if I don't have to. Dallas is at the Los Angeles Rams. You mean you don't already have Derek Carr on your fantasy team? I can't believe it. Dallas is at the Los Angeles Rams. You mean you don't already have Derek Carr on your fantasy team? I can't believe it. Dallas is at the Rams.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Oh, Sunday night. It's that of the game number one. Wide receivers with double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR or 14 PPR fantasy points. It's kind of a threshold that I use. That's a good game. 10 or more in non, 14 or more in PPR. Against the Rams in their last
Starting point is 01:05:48 10 games, that was after they got Jalen Ramsey. So basically, who did well against the Rams with Jalen Ramsey? There were eight wide receivers that had either 10 non PPR or 14 PPR in those 10 games. One of them was Debo Samuel who had a rushing touchdown. So really, there were only
Starting point is 01:06:03 seven. And they were guys like Alex Erickson, James Washington, Willie Sneed, Tavon Austin, and Demir Bird. Also Julio Jones. That was in Ramsey's first game. But they really did a very good job against number ones.
Starting point is 01:06:20 That's why we said Gallup over Cooper. Dave was kind of iffy. He still likes Cooper. He likes them all. But Dave, you didn't why we said Gallup over Cooper. Dave was kind of iffy. He still likes Cooper, but he likes them all. But Dave, you didn't get a chance to talk about Cooper. Jamie's hesitant to start him. Number two, number three receiver, something like that. But you're okay with it? I would prefer not to.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Oh, all right. I mean, you got to look at him as more of... I think you got to look at all three of these receivers as good enough to be number two wide receivers for your fantasy team but you'd almost rather them all be in the flex so how about rank ranking the receivers in this game you'd have the rams duo first and then i believe i have cooper gallop lamb the one thing we know i don't know if we know this for sure i I'd have to double check this. How often did Ramsey follow guys into the slot last year? 56% of the time in the game last year
Starting point is 01:07:08 was Ramsey was covering Cooper. That I know. Will he follow him everywhere? I don't know. That's a good question. I'm going to look it up right now. My guess is Cooper, even though he's practicing in full,
Starting point is 01:07:25 may not be 100%. Amari Cooper? Well, I mean, he missed the last week of practice. No, I know. I'm just saying. Him not being 100%? I mean, if I'm the Rams, I'm going to let Ramsey travel with Cooper when he's on the outside
Starting point is 01:07:39 and just eliminate him. But I could also see them... Remember, it's new defensive coordinator. So could also see them, you know, remember, it's a new defensive coordinator. So could they just decide, okay, we're just going to take away this side of the field and make it one-dimensional? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:54 In their last six games of 2019, Jalen Ramsey lined up in the slot 20 times. He then played 39 snaps in week 10. And I don't know if that was against Dallas or not. I would have to go back and check. So I'm still in the. In what week? Week 10.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So he didn't do it in week 15 when he played Dallas. And Cooper and Lamb are going to be the two guys that will line up in the slot the most for the Cowboys. Which tight end do you like better, Jarwin or Higby? Higby, but it's close. I agree. I think Jamie should make the point on Jarwin because he did it perfectly on HQ earlier this week. Well, I mean, you have a team that struggles to defend tight ends to begin with, and Jason Witten caught a touchdown against them last year. And if Ramsey is going to take away one guy,
Starting point is 01:08:42 Dak's smart enough to go a different direction. So, you know, it's just the argument that I made about Jarwin all off season, you know, he's going to get more targets, I think than people expect because they added CD lamb. So I'm going to still think he's going to be six plus targets. And if he's getting six plus targets in this matchup, you know, you have no Littleton anymore for the Rams. Their, their linebacking core is different. So I think Jarwin's got a matchup that he can have
Starting point is 01:09:05 success in and Dak will lean on him. Jared Goff, does he feel like 21, 22 fantasy points kind of guy? Like, you know, solid game. Absolutely. Yeah. Week 10 was Rams and Steelers.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So Ramsey was on Juju for much of the game. And that's when he went into the slot. I would suspect that he does not do that this week. Well, that's pretty much this game. Start Dak. Start Zeke. Sit the Rams running backs.
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