Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC); Bell Reaction (10/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 16, 2020After Dave gave his instant reaction to the Le'Veon Bell news last night, it's Jamey's turn to chime in this morning (2:15). Jamey and Dave discuss the signing, how to value CEH and what you should lo...ok for if you're trying to trade Bell right now. We also update you on other big news (10:00) and some other injury notes (12:30) from around the NFL ... Who are some players Dave loves this week (18:00)? Plus "Beat the Waiver Wire" (21:30) and the Startometer (24:55) for the Rams-49ers, Ravens-Eagles and Falcons-Vikings games ... Start or sit for Packers-Buccaneers (29:15), Cardinals-Cowboys (41:30), Football Team-Giants (49:30), Bears-Panthers (58:10), Rams-49ers (1:02:05), Ravens-Eagles (1:06:05) and Falcons-Vikings (1:11:10). Are we confident in Darius Slayton, CeeDee Lamb, Antonio Gibson, Darrell Henderson and Miles Sanders this week? ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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everybody fantasy football recommendation be very afraid it's halloween month be very afraid
of the chief's backfield this beginning potentially next week kansas city signed levy on bell dave and
i broke it down on a bonus pod and on fantasy football today in five,
which you all should be listening to, by the way. So Jamie,
give me your thoughts. Le'Veon Bell to the chiefs. What do you think?
I mean, obviously it sucks for Clyde Edwards, a layer, but you know,
we'll see how this all shakes out. The thing that I go back to is, uh,
think about when we were July, June, July,
and we were drafting Edwards Allaire with Damian Williams on the roster
and where we were taking him.
End of round two, beginning of round three, right?
Yep.
If that's the type of player you're getting,
which is basically the way he's been performing, then you'll be okay.
Now, will he play like that?
Who knows? You know,
hopefully this is a little bit of a motivating factor for him.
We'll find out against the bills, but this is going to be a split backfield.
You know,
you go back to how it was last year for the chiefs where Damian Williams was
basically about 13 carries and three to five catches.
And I think that's whatever, which is going to be.
So Le'Veon is probably going to take a few weeks to work his way up to speed.
Then we'll, we'll find out
how the Chiefs actually view him.
But this is obviously a significant
downgrade for Edwards-Hilaire.
Dave, would you like to follow up, sir?
Well, I
haven't really changed my opinion much on Edwards-Hilaire
after what I said on the
emergency pod yesterday.
But I've kind of changed my tune on Le'Veon
because I keep going back to what you've said, Adam,
which is basically,
what the hell has Le'Veon Bell done
in the last two and a half years anyway?
And so we just think that this is like a magical car wash
that he's going to get all the grime and rust
and gunk off of him
that comes with playing for Adam Gase
and just come out shining.
And it's happened to a lot of players before that have played with Adam
Gates.
I'm not certain that he's going to be the old Le'Veon like we saw in
Pittsburgh.
This isn't a dominant offensive line in Kansas City.
They've got very good tackles, but they just lost their starting guard for
the year.
I'm not certain that this is going to turn out to be,
ooh, Le'Veon's back, he's going to be amazing,
and Clyde Edwards-Alaire go hit the bench.
I think they're going to split.
I honestly believe what I said yesterday,
which is that Edwards-Alaire could still be in line
for around 15 touches per game.
And Jamie just talked, really, he summed it up nicely
about what were the expectations before the year.
That's what it should be now.
And I think I was probably a little bit too bullish on levy on saying that he's even a low-end number two running back he's probably not even going to be that i here here are
the steps i would take one if i've got levy on bell on my team i'm trying to sell high right now
let's see what i can get for levy on bell and if i don't have clyde edwards alair on my team
i'm going to take the temperature of the guy in my league who does.
Go or girl in my league who does.
And if they are like, oh, this sucks.
Edwards-Alaire is not going to be any good.
Buy low.
Get him on the cheap.
Do yourself a favor because he still has plenty of upside.
Okay.
Well, I'm looking at your trade chart now, which is not updated, right?
It is.
Oh, it is.
Okay.
So you have him in between David Montgomery and Raheem Mostert.
Who's that?
Edward Ziller?
Yeah, Edward Ziller.
Yeah.
Right.
So that's how you feel about it?
You basically have him even with Montgomery and Mostert
ahead of Gurley, ahead of Eckler, ahead of Devin Singletary,
ahead of Melvin Gordon.
He should be way ahead of Singletary.
Okay.
Singletary's value dropped.
It should read like 10 and Gordon. He should be way ahead of Singletary. Okay. Singletary's value dropped. It should read like 10 and 12. I had a few people tweet me
yesterday that he seems like he's
going to be Devin Singletary.
He might be because...
That's a fair comp.
Because he doesn't score touchdowns, which
has been a problem for him. He obviously
has the ability to play in the passing game.
The difference would be is that Zach Moss
is obviously a different type of
player than Le'Veon Bell. If you're comparing the, the complimentary options.
So, you know,
Bell can do a lot of the same things that Edwards Hilaire can do.
I just want to go back to something Dave said. And it's interesting.
Cause you know, it's the, how bad were the jets and how good are the chiefs?
You know? And so yes,
the offensive line is not great in Kansas city by comparison to what it was a
year ago. But you know, Le'Veon, if you're getting 2019 Le'Veon
for the way that he played and putting that in the Chiefs offense,
if he gets that type of work, he's going to be a monster.
Now, that's 300 touches.
That's not realistic.
That's Clyde Edwards-Ziller getting hurt.
Right, if he gets that type of work.
But I think if you're just talking about his performance,
so what was he, 3.9 yards per carry?2 3.2 yards per carry i think it was last year 3.2 this year 3.9 two three years ago 2017 4.0 which was very low for him with pittsburgh but
just go back to last year so 3.2 let's say that's 3.6 in in kansas city but it's the receiving
numbers that you're looking at that you're hoping he can still produce.
So, you know, I mean, it's going to be a mess.
It's really going to be frustrating.
You know, the hope would be is that Clyde Edwards-Hilaire
goes out Monday night against Buffalo and just smashes that game
and just absolutely has a big, dominant, amazing performance.
And Andy Reid and Eric Bien-Aimé and the coaching staff there
just says, okay,
we'll work Le'Veon in slow. It's kind of like Leonard Fournette. Work him in slowly. You heard
Bruce Arians say time and time again, emergency situation. That would be the ideal scenario is
that Le'Veon Bell is used like the Bucs are using Leonard Fournette. Okay. And Dave pointed out on
the bonus podcast last night that Clyde Eberts-Eler has been terrible in pass protection.
So it makes sense. He really hasn'tziler has been terrible in pass protection. So it makes sense.
He really hasn't even been given
a chance to pass protection.
Oh, okay.
Well, but it makes sense
for Le'Veon Bell
to assume that role,
which of course does not mean
that Clyde Eberziler
won't catch passes.
It just means, you know,
third and long,
two-minute drill,
that kind of thing.
He might come off the field.
Right.
It's hard to catch passes
when you're on the sideline.
Right.
But he can do it
on first and second.
in their last game
against the Raiders,
ran the most routes he's had all season.
Right.
So chasing points,
first time we've seen him in that scenario,
they were using a second guy.
Yeah.
This was an upgrade on Darryl Williams.
Oh, for sure.
Darwin Thompson, the whole group.
That was the reason they did it.
Okay.
But what I'm saying, you know,
you can still catch passes
on first and second down
and Clyde Edwards either
will still have a role in the passing game.
And then in terms of just,
you want to look at just yards per carry, look at what it did
for LeSean McCoy last year.
It went way up after a really horrible year in 2018.
It was much better.
He was much more efficient in 2019.
But then again, he really didn't play that well, and they basically benched him and got
away from him and made him inactive, even though the numbers on the surface didn't look
that bad.
So, look, I don't think, I'm not sure if Le'Veon Bell is good anymore.
I think it's an easier case to make when he's on the Jets
behind a horrible offensive line and a terrible offense with a bad coach
with no weapons around him.
The Chiefs offense can be a tonic.
Like, you can just look at Darryl Williams.
I don't think any of us think Darryl Williams is that good.
But last year when he got the opportunities, he had like three games
where he actually got some work, and he was pretty much good for fantasy
in all three.
So, you know – Look at Damian Williams.
He was nothing in the NFL.
Well, you know what's interesting?
Damian Williams told us that the Chiefs had him lose weight.
He was too big with the Dolphins, so he told us that on Twitch.
He was a special teams guy in Miami.
I mean, he was essentially their third string running back.
Way too big, too.
So the Chiefs know what they're doing.
They can get something out of Le'Veon Bell,
but you can get something out of Le'Veon Bell. but you can get something out of Le'Veon Bell.
So, if you had Le'Veon Bell right now, let's
just finish with this. Give me, like, two names you'd be
looking for, be it at wide receiver,
running back, or whatever.
Would you trade him to take
a gamble on Zach Ertz if you needed
a tight end? Absolutely. 100%.
Because if Ertz turns things around,
he's still got top five potential at the position.
I'd be trying to get Juju before this week. I'd be trying to get, you know, you want to package
him with something, maybe try and get Julio, you know, somebody that's a frustrated Julio Jones
owner, you know, so those are the type of moves I think you try to make. Like one for one,
I don't think you're gonna get anything that you're gonna love. Because if I'm, you know,
I'm not trading Will Fuller for Le'Veon Bell at this point. I'm not trading AJ Brown for
Le'Veon Bell, you know, guys'm not trading Wolf Fuller for Le'Veon Bell at this point. I'm not trading A.J. Brown for Le'Veon Bell. You know,
guys that have had some inconsistent performances
or concerns about injury, you know, so
I'm going to try and put Le'Veon to maybe receiver
to get a receiver or Le'Veon another running back
to get another running back. That's the type of move I'd be looking
to make. Okay. All right. Cool.
Let's move on here. So
some teams dealing with COVID. Atlanta
shut down their facility yesterday.
We know that. They're still on to play Minnesota, and that game is on Sunday.
So that's as of now.
The Colts, this morning we saw they're shutting their facility down.
They had some positive tests.
And we know the drill.
I mean, we just have to wait and see.
There's not much we can tell you at this point.
Odell Beckham was sent home with an illness that, as of now,
it hasn't been reported as COVID.
We're waiting for test results there, I guess. And Jarvis Landry mispractice so you know banged up sit baker mayfield kareem hunt
is banged up baker mayfield with this injury for a while and mayfield's banged up i think the
steelers are gonna win yeah yeah but you know browns are good i mean it's disappointing like
to see them get healthy for this game. And then, so,
so those are the COVID situations. We'll just,
we'll have to be fluid there.
And if you're a commissioner,
you gotta be super flexible.
It's going to be tough.
According to Zach Kiefer of the athletic,
he just tweeted this 12 minutes ago.
He covers Colts.
The team is working to confirm the cases.
So there's a chance they could be false positives.
They are working virtually friday
as if sunday's game is still on and the colts so far have had no positive cases since training
camp started so this is the first time that they're dealing with this yeah and you should
also as fantasy managers be prepared for a week 18 uh which could bump your playoffs back a week
you know just just be prepared if the possibility has been brought up and by goodell so you know, just be prepared. The possibility has been brought up by Goodell.
So, you know.
Melvin Gordon practiced.
He returned to practice.
Do we know if he's going to play
or is it just a wait-and-see approach with Gordon?
I would imagine if he practiced,
they're going to play him
and let the NFL determine the disciplinary action.
But still something you got to keep an eye on.
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News and notes.
As if we weren't already doing news and notes, here's some more news.
Adrian Peterson missed practice
with an illness, non-COVID
illness.
Most guys miss a practice on Thursday
with an illness. They typically play,
but we already previewed that game just in case he doesn't play. Where would you put DeAndre Swift
and or carry on Johnson in your rankings at Jacksonville? Swift would be a borderline number
two, number three running back in PPR, more of a number three running back in non PPR and carry on
would be behind them in both. I would be more excited about DeAndre Swift
if Adrian Peterson's out.
He'd be close to 20 for me.
Okay.
AJ Green expects to play this week,
and he wants to stay with Cincinnati.
They're at Indianapolis.
They also lost their starting defensive end.
I mentioned this yesterday,
but Sam Hubbard is on IR with an elbow injury.
Yeah.
If this game goes down, Jonathan Taylor should roll
because not only is Hubbard out, but DJ Reeder is also on IR.
And I don't know if Mike Daniels is going to play for Cincinnati,
so that D-line is in rough shape.
Although they are getting Geno Atkins back.
They've had him back, haven't they?
He played last week.
It was his first week.
Okay.
Julio Jones would have mispracticed if the Falcons had actually practiced,
so you should plan on having a backup plan for Julio Jones would have mispracticed if the Falcons had actually practiced. So you should plan on having a backup plan
for Julio Jones.
That's a good use of the word plan twice.
Cam Newton and Stephon Gilmore
look like they are on track to play against Denver.
And Drew Locke as well.
And hopefully Noah Fant.
He was limited in practice.
Guys, what's going on with the Bucks wide receivers?
Do you think Goblin and Evans play this week
against Green Bay?
They've been practicing, so it
looks like they've got a great shot to play.
They're going to need them against the Packers. Yeah, Evans
mispracticed on Wednesday, I think was more of a
rest situation. He was in a limited situation
on Thursday, but my guess
is until he's 100%, you're probably not going to get
very many Wednesday practices for Evans.
Godwin and Miller being limited.
I mean, obviously, if
Godwin plays, you don't have to worry about Scotty Miller.
So, you know, hopefully Godwin's out there.
That's the one you got to keep an eye on right now.
All right.
DJ Chark mispracticed.
LaVisca Chenault returned to practice.
So it looks like Chark right now, probably not.
LaVisca Chenault, hopefully, yes.
Deontay Johnson and Eric Ebron returned to practice.
So not good news, probably, for Chase Claypool,
but we shall see.
Do you guys differ on Chase Claypool, by the way?
Dave, are you more of an optimist this week?
I think he's a number three receiver.
I think he's got a chance to be okay.
I don't think he's going to go away.
I think he's going to take playing time away from Ebron,
not Deontay Johnson.
I would imagine if Deontay Johnson plays,
Claypool goes, I think Dave said it earlier this week,
and I agree, he goes from 11 Johnson plays, Claypool goes. I think Dave said it earlier this week, and I agree.
He goes from 11 targets to probably five or six.
But I still think Ebron's going to get five or six,
and then it comes down to where's Deontay and where's Juju.
So if Ben's throwing 30 times, there's your options for those guys.
Okay.
Deshaun Jackson was limited.
What's up with Jackson and Jeffrey?
Do we think they're going to play against Baltimore?
They're obviously trending in the right direction,
but they've been practicing a lot over the last two weeks and then not playing.
So Friday will be a big day.
It'd be nice to see them out there
just to get their rust knocked off against Baltimore
because you're not going to play them.
So just get them out there, get this game under their belt,
and then you see what the Eagles have moving forward.
Yeah, they've got the Giants next week,
so that could be a nice game for them to come back then you see what the Eagles have moving forward. Yeah, they've got the Giants next week, so that could be a nice game
for them to come back to. Yeah, if you have an open
roster spot, and
Alshon's still sitting out there, please go pick him up.
Who would be your
favorite Eagles wide receiver this
week, assuming everyone plays, and
who would be your favorite Eagles wide receiver rest of season?
Because apparently Fulgham is just going
to be a starter or something like that.
I have two favorite Eagles receivers for this week.
One is Marcus Peters, and the other is Marlon Humphrey.
Those are my two favorite Eagles receivers for this week.
Yeah, those would be the cornerbacks they are facing.
What about rest of season?
T.O.
Alshon.
I mean, you know what he's been for Wentz,
and if he's healthy, he could end up being a number three fantasy receiver.
Okay. Yeah, I don't up being a number three fantasy receiver. Okay.
Yeah, I don't have a real answer.
All right.
Rager when he comes back, maybe.
I don't know I can express how much I'm looking forward
to the Tampa Bay-Green Bay game, by the way.
It's going to be a blast.
It's absolutely going to be a blast.
Well, Carlton Davis has returned to practice.
That's good news for Tampa Bay.
But Kevin King, Green Bay starting cornerback,
he's nursing an injury.
And then one last injury note.
John Brown and Zach Moss both practiced in full.
They will play Monday.
That's another game I can't wait to watch.
Yeah, me too.
I think Buffalo comes back on fire.
I think they absolutely bounce back.
You know, if Josh Allen has another bad game where he's inaccurate,
he threw two interceptions.
One was not his fault.
One was really bad.
If he has another bad game, it's going to be like, oh, he's bad again.
You know, the Josh Allen haters are going to come out from hibernation.
It is something that I noted when I did their schedule analysis before the season
that they got off to a really good start.
And the test was going to be later in the year,
and we're starting to get to that part of the season where he's going to get tested.
And if he can pass now, then he'll be good forever.
But if he can't pass now, then I don't know how that's going to look and feel for fantasy purposes.
But you're sticking with him for now.
You're absolutely starting Josh Allen.
There's no two ways about it.
And I don't even think you have to even entertain the thought
of having a second quarterback in case he stinks.
But you should have a second quarterback just in general
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Dave, Jamie and Heath were on the show yesterday,
gave some guys they like, some guys they don't.
How about you?
You got a couple of players that you're feeling this week?
I'm feeling Andy Dalton.
I think against Arizona,
I think he's just starting at the right time
and it's the right matchup for him.
Cardinals haven't been great against the pass
in general this year
and now no Chandler Jones.
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I think Brady could be good. I think Brady could be good.
I don't even have Brady in my top 12.
I might have to rectify that once Chris Godwin is good to go.
I think Brady could have a good game for now.
I like Dalton better than Brady, but I might switch that.
I might go in a different direction.
I kind of like Devante Freeman, believe it or not.
We talked about this yesterday, Adam. I believe on the Twitch stream.
Yeah, I think so.
There were some plays where he looked good,
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So I could see Devontae Freeman being a pretty good replacement
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Maybe you're in a pinch and you picked up Freeman.
Maybe you trade for him on the super cheap.
I think he could do well.
And I'm always looking for tight ends
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someone who could stand out and be okay.
There's really,
there really isn't any,
you know,
I mean,
it's just,
it's such a dry position.
Once you even get past like Robert Tanya,
who I think people are going to start with a smile,
but I think Jimmy Graham could score this week.
You gotta love the red zone targets he's been getting.
He's basically an option inside the 10-yard line for Chicago,
and there should be a bunch of points in the game against Carolina.
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Beat the waiver wire.
You're looking ahead to week seven.
Better options this week, I'd say.
First of all, you can look at the Eagles DST against the Giants.
That's a Thursday game.
Sorry, everybody.
You have to watch that game
on Thursday.
Dallas.
It'll be fun.
It'll be a little sloppy,
but it will not be fun.
It will not be fun.
I just want to look who's on.
We said that about the Broncos
and Jets game,
and that turned out to be a fun game.
Yeah, you're right.
Baltimore, Indianapolis, Miami,
and Minnesota are on by.
So if you need some replacements, here you go.
Philadelphia at the Giants, Dallas DST at Washington.
Not sure how confident you are of that.
I can look at the tight ends maybe in the Cincinnati-Cleveland game.
Austin Hooper and Drew Sample.
Sample had that big game against Cleveland earlier, right?
Week three, I think.
Sample had week two? Week three, I think. Sample had the
week two. Week two?
Yeah. It was when
Uzama went down. Right.
Baker Mayfield at Cincinnati,
potentially. It could be all right if you need
a quarterback.
18 points. That's what he gets you. Yeah. Detroit's playing
Atlanta. Marvin Jones.
I don't know. It's a long
shot. TJ Hawkinson. not sure how rostered he is.
Forgot to check that.
He might be available in some 10-team leagues.
He's right around 80% going into the week.
Okay, so maybe 10-team leagues.
Green Bay is at Houston.
Marquez Valdez, Scantling is still available
and was a lot better when Devontae Adams played.
So maybe can take advantage of being a number two guy.
Another DST you could look at,
they may be dropped this week.
Well, they've been horrible anyway,
but the Bills at the Jets,
that's going to be a popular one.
That's a great beat the waiver wire one.
Christian Kirk, you know,
we kind of like Christian Kirk this week
against Dallas, I think,
and next week he gets Seattle.
He's been used more as a downfield threat
in Arizona's offense.
They're trying to get more vertical in their passing game,
and he's been a part of that.
Oh, well, let me tell you the team that has given up
the most 40-yard pass plays in the NFL.
That would be Seattle.
That would be Kirk's opponent next week.
So you could take a look at him.
Arizona's schedule, just by the way,
if you're looking for like a buy high maybe,
I'm not calling Kyler Murray a buy low,
but you want to get him on your team.
He's got Dallas this week.
Seattle, then a buy.
Seattle, then a buy.
Then the Dolphins.
Then the Bills.
Then the Seahawks.
Then it gets a little bit rougher after that.
Yes, but the immediate future is beautiful for Kyler Murray.
And let's give Seattle a little credit.
Their defense, in terms of where they've given up,
has been better the last two games,
playing Miami and Minnesota,
as opposed to what they started with,
with those three quarterbacks that they faced.
Yes, and Jamal Adams hopefully will be back.
So who else?
Oh, Marquis Brecht.
They've actually been, I guess, better without Jamal Adams, right?
Sure, sure. I mean, better without Jamal Adams, right?
Sure.
Sure.
I mean, clearly the passing attacks have been much different.
I don't know why I said Marquise Brown.
I was looking at something else.
I'm sorry.
Christian Kirk, Kansas City DST at Denver.
And Derek Carr is probably on your waiver wire.
He's got Tampa Bay next week.
That's not great.
But the schedule after that gets a lot better. And Derek Carr is off to a really good start.
All right.
Time for the start-O-Meter
for our last three games of today.
Those three games would be San Francisco and the Rams,
Baltimore at Philly, Atlanta at Minnesota.
Yeah, Atlanta, Minnesota.
Okay, Jared Goff, Start-O-Meter, 0-10.
Six.
Six.
A Rams running back.
Five.
Six.
For who?
For Henderson?
Yeah,
but he's,
I think,
on the nice.
The Niners run defense
has been really good.
And they're,
you know.
I don't think they've allowed
100 total yards
to a running back this year.
I don't think they've allowed
60 rushing yards yet.
Something like that.
So,
I mean, if you're trying to get away from them,
this is a good excuse to do it.
Yeah, it's tough, though.
Tough this week with injuries and buys.
Cup and Woods?
Start-o-meter?
10 for both.
Yeah, you're going to start both.
I'd say 8 for Woods, 7.5 for Cup.
Rams tight end?
4. Yeah, half for Cup. Rams tight end? Four.
Yeah, three for both.
Jimmy Garoppolo, if he plays?
Zero.
Two.
Mostert?
Ten.
McKinnon?
Two.
Yeah.
San Francisco wide receiver.
Rams allow the fewest fantasy points to the wide receivers.
Zero.
One and one half.
Baltimore running backs.
Six for Ingram.
Really?
Six for Ingram. That's higher than I would have expected.
Five for Ingram in non-PPR.
Four for Ingram in PPR.
If he scores, you're fine.
If he doesn't score, you're bleeped.
Marquise brown eight eight travis got as in the concussion protocol right he is i don't know if that
really matters because i don't know if slay can keep up with brown well at least it's a hindrance
you know speed bump or not yeah uh travis fulgham two, I think he's a five, especially if we don't get Deshaun.
Definitely if we don't get Alshon back, but even if we don't get both those guys back, he's at least a five.
Greg Ward.
Two.
Four.
Zach Ertz.
Five.
Yeah, but Dave, you're kind of low on him.
You're like, you're like 14th.
Yeah, but you're looking for
anything at tight end once you get past the big
five. Yeah. Kirk Cousins.
I don't even know if it's a big
five. I just kind of threw out that number. No, it's a
big five. Let's see. We got Kelsey Kittle,
Andrews, Janu.
No, Janu, right? And Waller. Janu's
got to be in there. Yeah, but Waller's not up this week.
Oh, you mean this week. Okay, sorry.
So it's a big four this week.
Man, Jonu's been good.
Kirk Cousins.
Oh, no.
Really?
I was going to say like four.
Falcons, bro.
Vikings, bro.
They're going to want to run.
Yeah.
Justin Jefferson.
That's a tough one.
Five. Five. Yeah. Justin Jefferson. That's a tough one. Five.
Five.
So you'd start.
There is a part of me that wonders,
like, do they just let Kirk Cousins go bananas?
Because they know this is a good matchup for him.
And if that's the case,
then I'm going to be dead wrong on Jefferson.
But I don't know.
I just, I feel like whenever they've got the opportunity
to run the ball down the throats of their opponent,
they're going to do it.
Okay.
As evidence late last week against Seattle,
Kyle Rudolph or Irv Smith.
I like Irv Smith as a sleeper this week,
you know,
but it's,
it's kind of the same trap I fell into with Ian Thomas.
Yeah.
Last week of prior to facing Atlanta most targets best performance yeah and
then was a complete letdown so Irv Smith most targets they finally started using a little bit
he's got so much upside if they were to use him because he's such an athletic playmaker but
they just get away from him too much and so maybe last week was a sign of something but
you know if you are stuck at tight end and like for example if you've been
looking at no Darren Waller, couldn't get Jimmy Graham,
and was hoping for maybe Trey Burton,
and now if the Colts game doesn't play, go look for Herb Smith.
He's also a
great punt play on DraftKings.
He's at the lowest possible price among tight ends
at $2,500.
And just the Falcons here.
Matt Ryan.
Five.
With Julio, eight.
Without Julio, four. That's fair.
Yeah.
Russell Gage.
May not play, but if he does play, four.
Hayden Hurst.
Four.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
The game of the week, according to me.
Green Bay at Tampa Bay.
Here's your stat of the game.
Let's look at this Green Bay defense.
So the Green Bay is 4-0.
They've beaten Minnesota, Detroit, New Orleans, and Atlanta.
They have the second lowest pressure percentage in the NFL.
Only Detroit gets less pressure on the quarterback per dropback.
Preston Smith so far is half a sack.
He's been used in coverage more this year
than he had last year. Green Bay also near the bottom of the league in takeaways per game. They
are not getting pressure and they are not getting takeaways. So that is interesting because Tom
Brady has thrown two pick sixes. He's fumbling a lot. We've seen a little bit of issues with
the offensive line. It's not good against the the bears so this is an interesting matchup it's also an interesting matchup guys because the packers run defense is
so bad but the buccaneers are through our past first team um so i guess in general you know
just overview of this game jamie like how do you see this one unfolding i hope it's a shootout i
hope we have the full complement of tampa bay
wide receivers out there with godwin and evans and then we get to see these two hall of fame
quarterbacks going back and forth like it should be um rogers is having an mvp campaign brady has
been up and down but you know the last time we saw him with godwin and evans on the field for
the majority of the game was his second best game of the season. The Chargers game was his best game of the season,
but the Broncos game was a,
was a strong performance for him with just shy of 300 yards passing and three
touchdowns. So if you have Godwin out there,
then Brady is a must-start quarterback. Obviously Rogers is going to be great.
I don't necessarily look at these defenses as significant problems for these
guys, because Rogers, I think
will have his way against any defense at this point, the way he's playing. So even though the
buck secondary is good and their defense as a whole is good, I think the loss of Vita Vey is
going to be felt in terms of their pressure up the middle and certainly the run defense.
So, you know, I think it's going to be a good game for the Packers passing game. Excited to see Devontae Adams out there.
I'm really curious to see what Robert Tanya is going to do because week one,
when Adams was healthy, he had no catches and they didn't use their tight ends at all.
And then, you know, it started in the Detroit game, which is when Adams got banged up.
And then we've seen Tanya just explode over the last, you know, two plus games for the Packers.
So that's the one I'm really curious about.
And then you've said this a lot, Adam, about MVS.
You know, his week one performance when Adams was there, he was great.
And then he's been just an utter disaster as the co-number one with Lazard.
And then just, you know, the last time we saw them against Atlanta,
he was a disappearing act.
So those are the guys I think you want to look at from the Packers side of things.
Okay.
Yes, it's everyone.
Other fun stats in this game.
Robert Tanyan, you know, his two big games
were against teams that are 31st and 32nd
against tight ends.
He's part of that.
Keep that in mind.
Green Bay allows the most receiving yards
to running backs.
Keep that in mind because Ronald Jones
had a ton of targets in his last two games.
And Mike Evans in two games with Chris Goblin,
has four yards and three touchdowns.
So we could talk about this game for a half hour.
I will do my best to speed things up.
Aaron Rodgers...
I think it's simple.
I think you start anybody in this game
who's giving you at least some production
at any point this season.
Okay, yeah.
Aaron Rodgers is number four.
Like, you may...
Aaron Rodgers is interesting because he was drafted
as, like, a low-end number one Rodgers is number four. Like you may, Aaron Rodgers is interesting because he was drafted as like a low end number one
or maybe a number two.
So the only quarterbacks that Dave and Jamie and Heath
are starting over Aaron Rodgers are Patrick Mahomes,
Josh Allen, and Kyler Murray.
Other than that, Aaron Rodgers is number four across the board.
We were doing a Twitch stream yesterday
and we got a question.
Half PPR, Alexander Madison, Mike Davis, Aaron Jones.
Sit one.
And I said sit Aaron Jones.
And Chris, like, his eyes were going to pop out of his head,
veins bulging out of his neck.
He was so mad at me.
I was like, dude, if Vida Vea were playing,
this would actually be an easy call, you know,
because Mike Davis and Madison are set up for such success.
But that's the only scenario where you'd even consider sitting Aaron Jones.
He's a top five running back.
And I think you guys actually had in PPR.
Yeah.
So Jamie goes, Zeke, Davis, Madison, Jones.
And Dave goes, Zeke, Davis, Jones, Madison.
So it was a fun debate that we had there.
Yeah.
Devontae Adams.
I'll just ask this.
Carlton Davis has been really good this year. It was a fun debate that we had there. Yeah, Devontae Adams. I'll just ask this.
Carlton Davis has been really good this year.
You look at like Allen Robinson had 10 catches for 90 yards.
That came on 16 targets.
Keenan Allen had like eight catches for 62 yards.
That was on 12 targets.
Michael Thomas had three catches for 17 yards.
Are you avoiding Adams in DFS, only in DFS?
Sure.
No, because he's going to be a contrarian play.
Because I think a lot of people are going to be afraid of him based on his price.
Okay.
And then...
It's going to take a lot of work for him to come through on that price.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he does that.
He's the most expensive receiver on DraftKings this week at $8,000.
Yeah.
That's why if you're going to play him, you've got to play him as a contrarian and just hope that he delivers.
Yeah.
And Carlton Davis is a little banged up too.
So that helps,
uh,
MVS,
any interest in MVS?
The EFS for sure.
He's cheap.
And,
you know,
he's the type of player that wins you a tournament.
We saw it in week one.
He can,
you know,
three catches for a hundred yards and touchdown,
or,
you know,
three catches for 152.
I mean,
he's just that type of guy.
So,
um,
seasonal, I don't think a lot of people are
scrambling at receiver as much you know 14 team league maybe a little bit different uh podcast
league for example uh todd roans and i we have to start him because we're hurting without lockett
there and uh our depth has been really challenged because our commissioner stinks and we can't put
players on ir on the inter-reserve spot um So, yeah, I'm starting him in that league.
He laughs about it.
No, I would love to change it.
Oh, I'm sure you would.
I would.
If only the commissioner of the league could do such a thing.
Look, this is for commissioners out there.
I have never played with IR spots before this year.
I think they're extremely valuable.
I will never play without them if it's up to me.
My rule was IR is only for people on the COVID IR list. spots before this year. I think they're extremely valuable. I will never play without them if it's up to me.
My rule was IRs only for people on the COVID IR list.
I've realized the folly, the error of
my ways. You should be able to put... So fix it.
I can't. I tried.
I put it up to a vote. I felt like we had to
get either unanimous or pretty close to unanimous.
There were too many nays.
I respect that. I respect people saying
it's just it's
just you can't institute it mid-year so i didn't do it but if i if i could do it again i would
yeah i think that's fair the way you did i thought you decided on your own not to do it mid-year no
i'd like to do it destroy you for it weak uh let me ask mvs or any are these three guys? Claypool, Hardman, Fulgham.
I would take MVS over Fulgham.
I would take all those guys over MVS.
But he's exactly what Jamie is using him as,
which is a bi-week replacement type of receiver who's got huge upside in a game that's expected to be high scoring.
Robert Tonian or Zach Ertz?
Tonian.
Ertz in PPR, Tonanyan in non-PPR.
I just hope that people don't get burned by Tanyan
because of Adams coming back.
I'm hopeful, but again, Heath brought this up
and it's a very valid point.
Everything Tanyan has done has been without Devante Adams on the field.
Yep.
And everything Zach Ertz has done has been on the field
no matter who else has been there.
How is it going to change against Baltimore?
Well, you know Ertz is getting his targets,
and will Tanya get his targets?
I mean, you know, that's the question.
So Tanya, I can see having one catch for 15 yards,
and that's the end of his day.
You know, Ertz may have the same thing,
but he's going to get seven or eight targets to do it.
Okay, Tom Brady.
Let's go to Tom Brady.
Tom Brady's 12th for Jamie. Let me get to
update it here. He's still
outside of my top 12 as of now, but
there will probably be a change.
Yeah, if Godwin's
ruled out, you're probably going to lower him, I assume,
but he's right behind like Stafford
and Roethlisberger.
I could see him jumping those guys. I could see
him getting into the top 10 for me. If Godwin
plays and Kevin King doesn't.
Dude, I think he's a sleeping giant in fantasy.
They just throw the ball so much.
They really do.
Do you think they...
Just talking about this week.
It's not like Brady's been that bad.
People are crapping on him.
He hasn't really not been that bad for fantasy.
I didn't like him Thursday against the bears for two reasons.
One,
Godwin wasn't playing,
which is the obvious one,
but he's a 43 year old quarterback that came off throwing as much as he did
in week four.
And then having to go on a short week on the road in week five,
that was a recipe for disaster for anyone that's his age.
So especially against a good defense.
So now he's had 10 days to rest and getting his guys back.
So there's a lot to like about him. This is just a great week for quarterbacks. I mean,
you got Fitzpatrick playing as well as he is. You have Stafford back against the Jaguars.
You have Roethlisberger playing as well as he is. I mean, this is a good week for guys. So
if you have Brady on your roster and you're deciding between him and some of these other
quarterbacks, it's a tough call. It really is. I wouldn't play Dalton over him in any scenario, even if Godwin doesn't
play. But I can see why Dave likes him. That's just me.
Minshew is in that conversation as well. Guys that have
similar type of upside, but Brady's floor
is probably a little bit safer if he has these guys back in what should be a shootout.
I'll start focusing more on this week's game. shootout. If you're thinking long-term, I'll start focusing
more on this week's game, sorry, but if you're thinking long-term,
you look at the schedule, he's
got tough matchups on paper, but I'm not
really buying it. I don't think the Giants are a tough
matchup. I still don't think the Panthers are
a tough matchup. Rams and
Chiefs, maybe, but the playoffs,
the fantasy playoffs. He already struggled against the Panthers,
though, so keep that in mind. They ran
all over them. Yeah.
That's one secondary I just don't understand. I'm just not there the fantasy playoff against the Panthers though. So keep that in mind. They ran all over them. Yeah. Yeah.
Um,
I just like,
that's one secondary.
I just don't understand.
I'm just not there yet, but anyway,
I get to weeks 14,
14 through 17,
because you might be making 17,
your championship.
If there's a week,
18,
Minnesota,
Atlanta,
Detroit,
Atlanta.
Those are the last four games for Tom Brady.
He does have a week 13 bye. Keep that in mind.
So, you know, week 13 bye.
But Minnesota, Atlanta, Detroit, Atlanta.
One thing with Minnesota, and it ties into Tampa Bay,
their defense by the end of the season is going to be
how Tampa's defense was by the end of last year.
Those young corners are starting to get better,
and they're going to eventually start to become a better defense as a whole
because of Mike Zimmer.
Tell that to DK Metcalf. Tell that to DK Metcalf.
Tell that to DK Metcalf.
He destroyed their corners last week.
Oh, I'm telling you, by the time you get to the end of the season,
it's not going to be a great defense.
But remember how Tampa went from just an absolute disaster.
Remember Daniel Jones lit them up in week three?
Oh, yeah.
And then by the end of the season, it was a totally different unit.
That's going to be the Minnesota Vikings too. Okay. All right, guys. So let's finish up here. Nobody's Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then by the end of the season, it was a totally different unit. That's going to be the Minnesota Vikings, too.
Okay.
All right, guys.
So let's finish up here.
Nobody's starting
Leonard Fournette.
Ronald Jones.
Two straight games
with 17 or more carries
and 100 plus yards.
Two straight games
in the passing game.
He's had nine catches
in those two games.
So start or sit
Ronald Jones?
Number two running back.
Start.
Yeah.
Must start until he shows
you something different.
Top 20 guy. I like him better than
Mixon this week. But you gotta be a little concerned
that Fournette's healthy and
Bruce Arians goes all Arians on us, right?
McCoy is gonna be healthy, too. I mean,
he's been trending in the right direction. So there are
concerns. But I think, again, until
they show you something different,
stay with him. Okay.
And Rob
Gronkowski, starter, said he has had six or seven targets in two of his last three games. And Rob Gronkowski,
starter,
said he has had six or seven targets in two of his last three games.
And then I'll ask you about Cameron Brate.
So far,
Packers great against tight ends.
Hawkinson at 62 yards,
Hurst at 51,
but still they've been very good.
No touchdowns allowed.
Gronk,
starter,
sit.
Hurst should have had the touchdown against them.
What'd you say,
Jim?
Gronk's a desperation play.
I mean, I don't want to play Gronk.
All right.
He's also banged up, too,
dealing with a shoulder injury.
And nobody's playing Bray.
But, you know,
if you're in one of those leagues
where there's just no tight ends out there,
you know Bray could always catch a touchdown.
Yeah, I mean,
our Dynasty League team, Adam,
we had a big win last week.
I forgot how to repeat.
But our Dynasty League team, Adam,
we're down Darren Waller
and we're starting Trey Burton right now.
But if the Colts game doesn't play,
we may have to pivot to somebody like Bray.
Yay.
All right.
All right, Arizona-Dallas Monday night game.
Stat of the game.
The only reason, well, not the only,
a reason why you might want to avoid Christian Kirk,
every wide receiver who has scored
more than four non-PPR fantasy points against Dallas
has had eight or more targets.
So they do give up a lot of points to wide receivers,
but it usually requires a lot of targets.
The only exception to that was Jarvis Landry.
He threw a touchdown, though.
And what did he have?
Seven targets last week, Kirk?
Kirk had...
Seven targets last week, yes.
The odd couple, Adam?
It was just the only waiting music I could think of.
Goodness gracious.
I think Kirk is a good flex this week.
I don't have him as a top 24 wide receiver,
but there's plenty of upside,
and you got to be encouraged by what he's done
the last couple of weeks.
Absolutely.
All right.
Let me ask you this.
You got some flex spots.
How many Dallas wide receivers would you start over
Kenyon Drake?
What's the format?
Half a point per reception.
I would start them all. Not per reception. I would start...
I'd start them all.
Not Gallup.
I would start the other two over.
Drake's making me nervous, man.
Cedric Wilson would be one of the two.
So you'd start Ronald Jones over Kenyon Drake?
Yes.
Would you start Mikko Hardman over Kenyon Drake?
I toyed with...
Yes, I would do that.
I toyed with the idea of starting Chase Edmonds
over Kenyon Drake. I have Drake and Ed Yes, I would do that. I toyed with the idea of starting Chase Edmonds over Kenyon Drake.
I have Drake and Edmonds
in a 20-some-odd league team.
I forget what our office league is.
I think it's 20.
I'm not starting Edmonds over Drake.
I'm still starting Drake.
Because the Cowboys
give a lot of rushing yards.
And so, I can see them scoring.
Cowboys also allow
the second fewest receiving yards
to running backs so far per game.
You know,
it could be just a product of who they've played,
but they've been good there.
And they're not getting their greatest linebacker in the history of football. He's not playing this week.
I don't think so. Oh, sorry.
Burning a hole in your roster, huh? No, no. We have
our spots. That's a good
by the way. JB
offered to give Leighton Van Der Esch to me
if the Hurricanes beat Clemson last week.
So I don't know how the league would have felt about that
if it actually had come to fruition.
I would have traded him to you for something ridiculous.
Your worst player, right?
Like Matt Ryan.
He's basically been my worst player three weeks in a row.
Seems fair.
All right, so Drake we'll try to avoid, basically,
is what you're telling me.
I don't know how that came up, though, by the way,
because you texted me something LVE,
and I was like, what?
You love me?
I don't remember.
Yes, you were like, huh?
And I was like, Leighton Van Der Esch.
So we are talking code now.
Would you start Christian Kirk or Kenyon Drake?
I'm starting Drake.
He's still getting enough work that you have to feel somewhat encouraged.
I got Kirk higher in PPR.
Dave's getting away from Kenyon Drake.
Start Hopkins.
Andy Dalton, 15th for Jamie, 16th for Heath, and 10th for Dave.
The Cardinals, you look at the Cardinals' defense on paper, they're good.
But they've had two games, one against the Jets, one against the football team.
It's really boosted their defensive stats.
And as Dave mentioned, no more Chandler Jones.
There are three competent quarterbacks that they face,
Jimmy Garoppolo, Teddy Bridgewater, and Stafford.
22 or more fantasy points for all three of those guys.
Every single one of them had 250 yards and two scores.
Yeah, I think that's what Dalton will do. You look, you look at Dalton and you go back. I was looking at
this last night, his 2018 season, which is the closest wide receiver core that he's had to this
when he had Tyler Boyd and AJ Green healthy for the first eight games, he averaged 21.2 fantasy
points per game. So it's a different system. Obviously he's got better talent around him
because there's a third receiver, there's a tight end, and there's a running back that's clearly a stud. The one concern you have to have with Dalton and with the Cowboys this week
is it just going to be the Zeke show.
And so try and get a W, run on a team that you want to keep their offense
off the field.
And so is Dalton going to get you to 250-2?
Now Vegas thinks that they're going to have a high-scoring game,
so that's encouraging.
So I think Dalton's a very good replacement option for Dak,
but I wouldn't get crazy with starting him over
some of these better quarterbacks
that are in just as good matchups.
Yeah, the reason why you said he was on pace
for like 21, 22 points per game, what, 2018?
The first eight games, he averaged 21.2 points per game.
And you know why?
It was only that.
It's because of interceptions.
Because he was on pace for 4,300 yards
and 33 touchdowns in those
games but um oh no no sorry he was on pace for uh 4,200 yards and 34 touchdowns but 16 picks
he's a little turnover prone that's his issue last year without AJ Green uh before he got benched
he had eight starts and he had five games of 20 or more fantasy points in those eight but it wasn't
a lot of big games.
So turnover is going to be an issue for him.
I'm still worried about the tackles because Dax going to overcome those
offensive line woes.
And obviously not having Chandler Jones,
there is going to be a big,
big boost for the Cowboys,
but still,
if he's under duress,
we saw it in a giant scheme,
you know what his first drive or second drive fumbled,
fumbled.
So he's going to turn the ball over.
That's just what Danny D doll does so how confident confident are you in the cowboys wide
receivers and and for the record dalton really spread the ball around he threw 11 passes three
to cooper three to lamb three to gallop and two to pollard uh so how confident are you in the
cowboys wide receivers and compare them to let's say ronald jones who is a flex option for a lot of people based on where you drafted him.
Number two,
running back for you guys this week.
I've got Cooper and lamb is number two receivers and PPR and Gallup is a
flex where they compare to Ronald Jones.
Cooper's going to be ahead of them.
Lamb's going to be ahead of them.
I've got Jones ahead of Gallup.
I would start Jones over all of them.
But the, the one guy that you get away from is Gallup.
I know he had the two big catches.
He had a 19-yard reception
and a 38-yard reception in the fourth quarter.
But this is still a player
that just doesn't get the targets
that you like right now.
So you're going from a downgraded quarterback
to trusting a guy all of a sudden.
I don't think you should do that yet.
I'm hopeful, but I wouldn't start him.
He's got five targets or fewer, I believe, in four or five games.
Yep.
He's had seven non-PPR or fewer points in four or five,
11 or fewer PPR points in four or five,
and single digits in PPR in three of five.
Yeah.
Unless Andy Dalton really loves Michael
Gallup, I just don't see it
going down. How about Dalton
Schultz, starter sit?
He's a starter by
default. I wouldn't want
to start him if you can get away from
it. I'll just give you an
example. I have Hunter Henry in a 10-team
league, and I had picked up
Dalton Schultz two weeks ago
and then dropped i dropped evan ingram for him and then i just i just switched it back this week
so i went from schultz to ingram and i could regret that i would like to see dalton schultz
continue to be heavily involved but you know after what you saw last week it wasn't very encouraging
schultz we're just going to use the extra tight end as a blocker more now to help give Dalton some extra protection.
Yeah, maybe.
Schultz or Ertz?
I still have Schultz higher,
but I'm kind of on a let's bury Zach Ertz kick right now.
Okay.
You liked Ertz prior to the season before.
I know.
I know.
What's his name?
Andrews.
I did in PPR.
Yeah.
But that was also before Philadelphia
lost everybody at receiver and
offensive line. If I had known
that, it would have changed quite a bit.
I kind of hinted at it, didn't I?
Didn't I say that they were going to be a team that
would keep getting injuries? I don't know how
I figured that one out. Oh, you did
sort of say that, yeah.
Okay, now I'm going to finish this game.
Arizona is, DST is eighth for Jamie,
11th for Dave, and eighth for Heath.
You can look at them as a streamer.
Although if the Cowboys get very run heavy,
that's not going to be good.
They shouldn't even be that high.
I'm going to move them down.
All right.
Washington is at the Giants.
The football team could be without its starting center
in this game.
Keep that in mind.
But they could be getting Brandon Scherf back.
That would be very nice.
He might be their best offensive player.
Well, I guess that's not fair to McLaurin. He might be
their second best offensive player.
Their right guard, Brandon Scherf.
All right, stat of the game. The football team gives up
big plays. They have allowed six pass plays
of 40-plus yards. That's tied for the most in the
NFL with Seattle.
These two teams are terrible in that regard.
They both have just one pass play of
40 plus yards offensively.
You've got a weakness for the Giants against
a weakness for the
football team. Just in general,
you look at these two teams, they've done a
pretty good job against wide receivers.
The Giants, you're talking about
bad game for Allen Robinson,
bad game for Amari Cooper.
And I might be forgetting one more.
I mean, the Rams guys.
Robinson had a bad quarterback in that game.
Yeah, well, that's not going to change for Washington.
They're going to have a bad quarterback too.
But anyway, they did a good job against the Rams wide receivers.
So McLaurin and Slayton are obviously on different levels,
but I don't think they're that far apart in the rankings this week.
You like both of them as starts, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, hopefully the return of Kyle Allen,
the great Kyle Allen, will help Terry McLaurin.
I mean, look, that's such a poor game to judge
the Washington football team's offense against
because they couldn't block Aaron Donald.
They just, every time, whatever quarterback it was, took a step, there was a guy in his face.
So that's not going to be the case with the Giants.
So hopefully McLaurin has some time.
Allen has some time to hit McLaurin.
And, you know, that's the only receiver you can look at.
You know, Logan Thomas has been a disaster the last two weeks if you've been trusting him in deeper leagues.
And McKissick is their second best receiver right now.
So if you're stuck at running back,
and obviously this goes for anybody in the Colts-Bengals game,
go look at JD McKissick because PPR,
he could be a borderline starter for you.
McKissick has 16 catches in his last three games,
been around 40 yards each game.
16 targets in his last two.
28% rostered for McKissick.
So having said that,
McLaurin's going to be in everyone's lineup.
He's a must start.
But Slayton,
like who are some guys you'd start Slayton over?
I would start him over Hollywood Brown.
I would start him over DJ Moore.
Claypool was the big pickup of the week.
I'd go with Slayton ahead of him.
I know that Brandon Cooks, people are like,
ooh, could he be back now?
I would go with Slayton over him.
I think I look at Slayton as boomer bus.
I look at him as the best boomer bus receiver
you could start this week.
He might be better than the Cowboys guys, too.
He's better than Gallup.
Why so confident?
Why so confident in him?
He's had three bad games, two great games. You want to know what did it for me yeah the matchup is great is it though
like it isn't on paper like deandre hawkins had 68 yards marquis he did catch a touchdown uh the
cleveland wide receivers were bad cooper cup had five catches for 66 yards i think the difference
is that you know those teams were those teams are better running it.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, like Dave said it best, you know, earlier that Devontae Freeman has a great opportunity this week.
But I mean, look, this is you got to get Daniel Jones going at some point.
So he's got four straight games with a touchdown.
You got to give him a confidence boost.
This is a confidence boost.
Last time he faced his team was week 16 last year.
He went for 45 fantasy points against them.
You know, so get him going. And Darius for 45 fantasy points against them. So get him going.
And Darius Slayton is the best way to get him going.
Yeah.
Plus the big plays.
I noticed that I watched this game back,
and Slayton, I think he's got a chance to be a really good receiver in the NFL.
He plays with physicality.
He's fast.
He's big.
I think he could be great.
And the reason why he's not great every week is because Daniel Jones
isn't great every week. We've got
access. Yeah, the offensive
line is a huge problem. And that's a problem in
this game. Is it though? Because
I went to go back and see how
the pass rush pressure has been for Washington
and since week two, they're 29th in the
league overall in the season. They're 19th.
Chase Young was back last week. He
had one sack. So I'm
not sure if they're going to be an absolutely debilitating pass rush unit on Daniel Jones.
I think he can have time. And listen to this. He's got a much better completion rate against
zone coverage, 65%, 7.1 yards per attempt than man coverage, which is 58 completion rate,
4.9 yards per attempt. Washington predominantly plays zone.
It's a staple of what Ron Rivera wants from his defense.
I don't think they're going to change it up.
I think Daniel Jones, I'm not confident enough to trust Daniel Jones
outside of my second quarterback in a super flex or a 2QB.
I don't want to use him in DFS unless it's in a big-time tournament.
I just want to fire a shot.
But I do think this helps Darius Slayton,
and I don't buy into
Washington's defense being great at all.
Okay, so let's fire
through the rest of this game here. We'll talk about the running backs.
First of all, are there any other wide receivers
we'd start?
No, right? I mean, Golden Tate and
DPPR, I'm sure. Bye, weak guy in PPR.
Antonio Gibson or
Ronald Jones?
Gibson. Okay, I think they're ranked fairly similarly for you guys they are two running backs you know rojo if if they don't mess them up has a much
higher ceiling oh i don't know about that uh well maybe a non-ppr sure ppr i don't know about that
because we've seen gibson continue to trend in the right direction in the passing game.
Yeah, they're both doing a great job.
But, I mean, Rojo's got two straight 100-yard games.
Gibson has nine catches in his last two games,
12 in his last three.
Love it.
Devontae Freeman or Darius?
He doesn't get to 70 yet.
Devontae Freeman or Darius Slayton?
I'd rather take the chance with Slayton.
Slayton has much more upside.
Freeman's got a better floor
because he's been two straight games
of at least 15 touches.
It doesn't look good, though, on paper
because he's averaging 3.1 yards per carry.
But I think a lot of that has to do
with the offensive line.
I think he's got some...
Well, I mean, last week's a better indication
of what he could do this week
because last week was his third game in,
second game where he was featured,
and he's facing a similar defensive type of opponent
of a team that's just not very good.
10% target share over the last two weeks,
over 50% of the snaps each of the last two games.
He's got 15 touch potential.
It's hard to overlook running backs with that.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I feel like the football team has a good defensive line.
We've known that since day one.
They've been pretty solid against the run.
This is not a good matchup, I don't think, for Devontae Freeman.
Oh, it's not a great matchup by any stretch,
but it's simply a running back that's got volume
and has looked okay.
I have a hard time starting Mark Ingram over him, as an example.
Yeah, he's better than Mark Ingram.
Right, right.
I would start him over.
Forget about the DUI.
I would start him over Melvin Gordon.
Okay.
Evan Ingram is top 10.
Look, he's got a great matchup.
They give up the fourth most points to tight ends.
But you know what?
Dallas went into last week giving up the seventh most points to tight ends.
And Ingram had one catch for 16 yards on two targets.
Yes, he did score
a rushing touchdown. He had a touchdown catch called
back, but that was on a fake field goal.
It's just unbelievable. It's
another beautiful matchup for Ingram. He was so
bad last week. Do you
trust him again? This could be a squeaky
wheel game. He was kind of
complaining about the routes that they've been
asking him to run. Apparently, he's running just a bunch of curl
routes and short routes, and they're not trying to use
him deeper.
That's a squeaky wheel, Dave.
Oh.
Sorry. Okay.
All right, Evan Ingram. Way to bring the show
to a halt with a sound effect.
Sorry. Let's hear it again.
Would you start Evan Ingram or Robert Tanya?
That's a squeaky wheel?
It's supposed to be crickets, but it doesn't sound like
crickets, so people said make it the squeaky wheel
sound, so I said, okay, fine.
Good news.
Odell Beckham, negative for COVID-19.
Okay. Hopefully he practices
today and he's up for the game against the Steelers.
Evan Ingram or Robert Tanya?
I've got Tanyan a spot
higher.
I will take Ingram and PPR
for sure. Non-PPR is close.
Evan Ingram or Jimmy Graham?
Evan Ingram is
fantasy Teflon.
Think about how bad he's been. We're still talking about
him as a top 10 tight end.
Every week he gets a good matchup. That's the problem.
Nutty. Evan Ingram he gets a good matchup. That's the problem. Nutty.
Ingram or Jimmy Graham?
Ingram.
Okay.
All right, here we go.
Speaking of Jimmy Graham, Chicago, Carolina.
This game is just set up beautifully for David Montgomery. Running back has scored 24 or more PPR fantasy points
in four or five games against Carolina.
Kawan Short out for the season.
Okay.
But the Bears, believe it or not,
they're fourth in the NFL in pass attempts.
They do not run the ball.
They're fourth fewest rush attempts per game.
Run the ball.
Run the ball.
Start Montgomery.
Start Mike Davis.
They've given Montgomery over 80% of the snaps
in the two games since Tariq Cohen went down
with the torn ACL.
And he's had 10 carries
in each, and he's stunk with them.
I think it's a byproduct
of the offense. It's almost like what we talked about with Freeman,
although Montgomery's a better running back than Freeman.
They also played the two best run
defenses in the NFL on paper with the Colts
and the Bucs.
Let's test their new day face.
Now he's getting the Panthers. There's no
Cohen short. I don't know what the status is.
I think he's close to it.
I don't know if...
What's his name?
Gross Matos?
He's going to play if Brian Burns is going to play.
Man, everything is set up perfectly for him.
It's just a matter of Matt Nagy saying,
okay, let's run the ball.
He has no other choice to use him
in as much capacity as he can use him so it's probably going
to be a 15 carry game for him and then you're still going to factor in three to five catches
it's a big week coming for david montgomery all right we're going to knock this game out here we
go nobody's starting nick foals everybody's starting alan robinson everybody's starting
robbie anderson we'll get to that in a second would you start real quick would you start, real quick, would you start David Montgomery over Miles Sanders facing the Ravens?
Yes.
I'm not going to do that.
Okay.
No other Bears wide receiver other than Robinson who's top 10 in both formats.
Jimmy Graham is a low-end starter.
Carolina's been very good against tight ends.
They've faced Waller and Henry.
Both of those guys had 45 to 50 yards, no touchdowns.
Hayden Hurst had two catches for eight yards. So you need a touchdown, but you are
getting a ton of red zone targets from
Graham. And that's going to be the story with Graham, no matter
who he plays.
Teddy Bridgewater,
start or sit?
I would sit him.
He can help it. Mike Davis
is an obvious start.
Top five in non-PPR and number two in PPR.
And in his last three games,
he is the number four running back in non-PPR,
number two in PPR.
Only Alvin Kamara has outscored him.
It's been ridiculous.
The Carolina wide receivers.
All right, so this is not an easy matchup.
This team has been great.
Second fewest fantasy points allowed to wide receivers.
One touchdown to a wide receiver.
But they haven't, like, none of the...
Have they faced any good wide receivers who have done poorly?
No, I wouldn't say.
Like, Kenny Galladay didn't play.
Julio Jones didn't play.
Calvin Ridley had 110 yards.
Mike Evans, 41 yards and a touchdown.
And a touchdown was a goal line one, basically.
Yeah, and they've got a rookie cornerback.
Yeah, but he's been playing good.
He's been playing well.
The difference is how Carolina uses their receivers.
And I think the Bears are going to be willing to let them,
not necessarily they're going to just let them make short completions,
but they're going to try, they would prefer that
than giving up the deep ball,
and then the Panthers don't try a lot of deep passes.
So it's that volume that you're counting up for anderson and more yeah you're not getting away from anderson but are you going to get the volume from dj more is dj more a start or
a sit and would you start cd lamb over him i'd start lamb over him he's more of a sit than a
start he's obviously better in ppr than non-ppr he's got seven touchdowns in three seasons and
the last one he had was...
The touchdown last week was great, but you just can't
count on it. The Bears have allowed one touchdown to a
wide receiver. So Anderson is
better in PPR than non-PPR,
but this is a game to try
and get away from DJ Moore.
I'd rather have Slayton
even in PPR.
Get away from Ian Thomas.
And the Bears' DST is top 12.
Not an amazing start, but stardom.
Rams at 49ers.
Stat of the game.
San Francisco allows the second fewest fantasy points to running backs.
3.03 yards per carry to running backs.
No lead running back.
Kenyon Drake, Frank Gore, Devontae Freeman, Miles Sanders, Gaskin. None of them averaged four yards per carry yet. So again, the run defense has been good.
Pass defense completely fell apart last week. So it's ugly with those Rams running backs.
But what do you make of the 49ers right now? They had been sort of surviving with all these
injuries and it all came crashing down last week. Do you
think the Rams can have their way
with the 49ers?
Could they? Yeah.
Will they?
I expect a big bounce back game
from the Niners, certainly defensively
after what happened last
week. They're certainly familiar
with what the Rams are doing. They play
each other all the time. The Rams seem to be trying to emulate what the 49ers are doing offensively. I think the 49ers
give them a game. I think it's going to make it a little tough on golf. And I don't have them in my
top 12, for example. And I like Robert Woods the best. Cup doesn't have a great track record against
San Fran. Yeah, I'm a little nervous about those Rams.
And certainly with the run game,
maybe the run game cumulatively will be fine,
but I can't say that one's going to be much better than the other.
I would expect acres to get more work than last week.
I would expect Brown to continue to play on third downs and obvious
passing situations.
And then I just can't say that it's going to lead to more
than maybe 11 or 12 touches for any of those
running backs. Would you
start in a PPR league, JD McKissick
over Daryl Henderson?
Yes. No.
I just don't see a lot of
upside for McKissick outside of the catches.
He's a floor play of
9 or 10 PPR points,
and Henderson's got a higher ceiling than that
for sure the fact that uh sean mcveigh said they're gonna give cam makers more work you
got to worry if uh that comes at henderson's expense who only had 15 carries for 38 yards
last week you know he did not run well in terms of in terms of per carry it's two bad games in a
row for him so you definitely got to be on alert there for Henderson. I understand you're going to start Cup and Woods.
Okay. And the tight ends not
really. Kittle is a start. Garoppolo
is not. Mostert is a start.
How about Ayuk or Debo?
No, I wouldn't use them unless you're desperate
for a bi-week replacement.
All right, then let's do this. Andy Dalton or Jared
Goff? Dalton.
Goff.
Stafford or Goff?
Stafford. Goff. Dalton. Goff. Stafford or Goff? Stafford.
Stafford.
Goff or Cousins?
Goff.
Goff.
All right.
Goff's fine.
Goff, I just want to give these stats real quick on Goff rest of season.
He has been so damn lucky.
He has a career high nine yards per attempt.
He is, well, you know, to be fair,
like he's just not throwing the ball downfield.
They're getting a lot of yards after catch.
They are the 49ers.
Hello.
Seven yards per catch.
Seven yards after catch per completion.
That's way up.
It was 5.8 in 2018.
It was 5.7 in 2019.
It's seven yards after catch per completion.
So maybe that's luck.
Maybe that's scheme.
Yeah.
I just think that 49ers football,
that's West coast offense football,
but it's,
but it's like hyper efficient.
That's what he's got.
Two rushing touchdowns this year.
If he does not throw the ball,
if he does not start throwing the ball more,
I,
you know,
he's just not going to produce, I don't think,
as much.
By the way, they have one game
rest of season against a top 10 offense,
a current top 10 offense,
which is interesting.
They haven't played Seattle yet, though, right?
Right. They have two games. They have one
opponent. They have two games. Both of them are Seattle.
Now, I think Arizona has certainly a chance
to be a top 10 offense or a couple other teams
on the schedule that could be, but
based on right now, only two
games against one opponent, same opponent.
Baltimore at Philadelphia.
Stat of the game.
This could be big for Miles Sanders because it's not going to be
an easy matchup on the ground. Baltimore
allows the eighth most receiving yards
per game to running backs, which is weird.
They were so good at that last year.
Screen,
screen,
screen.
I hope so.
Or get them involved downfield routes mixed in.
Chris towers has mentioned that,
that Wentz keeps missing Sanders open downfield.
So maybe he can,
he can get some,
he could have just stopped it.
Wentz keeps missing,
but you like he had 10 carries for six yards and a touchdown against the
Steelers.
Other than that long run,
which he had,
I can't take it away from him,
but you're not,
you're not hesitating,
hesitating to start miles.
And you have to build that into his upside.
And you know that he's going to have a good workload and you have to trust
that the Eagles are going to find ways to get him the football that their
offense can't be throw to Fulgham,
throw to Fulgham, Throw to Fulgham.
Throw to Fulgham.
They've got to use other players.
And certainly players that are faster than Fulgham.
Lamar Jackson is sixth for Dave and Jamie.
And fifth for Heath.
Must start guy.
But you could go with Deshaun Watson.
You can go with Aaron Rodgers over him.
Kyler.
If he had started last year.
Like he started this year.
Would he still be on fantasy rosters by now?
Because remember, he was a late-round pick.
He was a late-round pick last year.
I don't believe he's a top-12 quarterback.
I think he's around 12th.
He had 33 points in one game.
He had 28 points in one game.
He's going to explode.
It's bound to happen that he's going to have a massive game. He had 28 points in one game. Yeah. He's going to explode. It's bound to happen that he's
going to have a massive game. And I wonder if
he's going to be a second-half quarterback
where the Ravens
are confident enough to know, okay,
we're going to work out kinks, and by the time it
matters and we get close to the playoffs, Lamar will
be running on all cylinders.
Yeah. And he had this knee
issue last week that apparently contributed to his
complete lack of rushing.
So hopefully he's a little healthier now.
Mark Ingram or Daryl Henderson?
Henderson.
I think there's more upside with Henderson.
Marquise Brown or Devontae Freeman?
Freeman in non-PPR, Brown in P ppr i'll take brown and both okay yeah they philadelphia has
not been bad mclaurin woods juju all at 61 or fewer yards claypool obviously had a huge game
some some good some bad not see this is where target share kind of lies to to fantasy managers
he's he's had anywhere between 21 to 38% of the Ravens target share from game
to game. The lowest
is 21%. That's great. They're just not throwing
a lot. And this could be
one of those games where they end up
not throwing a ton.
More COVID news. Falcons
tests have cleared and players or staff are
returning to their facility.
The thing
with the Ravens that is a concern,
and it's across the board, it's when they're holding a lead in the fourth quarter, they're
going to start to pull guys. You've seen it with Mark Ingram. You've seen it now with Lamar Jackson
a couple of times. They just, you know, their defense is so dominant and they're probably going
to destroy this Eagles offense. So that's the concern is how much are these guys going to be
putting up, padding their stats in the
fourth quarter. It's very clear that Lamar Jackson
got his MVP and is not worried about stats.
They're just worried about wins and getting to the postseason.
Yeah, but this is nothing new. This is
exactly what happened last year.
The difference is that Lamar Jackson was putting
up numbers.
Marquise Brown is on pace for over
1,000 yards. He just has one touchdown this
year. He has at least two almost touchdowns.
They were trying to get him in the end zone,
and then they finally did last week,
and I don't know if they're going to be as try-hard.
He's a number two receiver.
That's going to win you some weeks.
I mean, he could have a three-touchdown game.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Right, right. He's always capable.
Carson Wentz, sit.
Miles Sanders, start.
But Mike Davis, Alexander madison kareem hunt
are all going to be ranked ahead of him um we're pretty much avoiding the philadelphia wide
receivers but jamie said or dave said fulgham one of you said fulgham is your favorite this
week and one of you said oh jamie said the baltimore cornerbacks are his favorite this
week yeah and then by default yeah don't chase fulgham's numbers though if you don't have you can't you can't the only thing to say about fulgham is he's totally volume based i i don't
know how many targets he's going to get again and this is a tougher matchup for him baltimore's only
struggled with fast receivers downfield guys this year they should not have a problem covering Fulgham. All right. Zach Ertz is
9th for Jamie, 13th for Dave,
8th for Heath.
You all have Evan Ingram
ranked ahead of Ertz.
Oh, yeah. Hawkinson.
Dave
has Kosicki, obviously. I got to see it.
I get it, man. Dave
also has Graham and even Darren Felsk
if Jordan Akins is out, I assume.
Yeah, I'm throwing dirt on Zekerts at this point.
It's not very respectful of me.
And Baltimore's DST is a start.
Must start.
Final game is Atlanta at Minnesota.
And it looks like this game is going to be played.
So the stat of the game,
other than one game against Green Bay,
the other four games that Atlanta has played,
they've given up 92 yards or a touchdown
to multiple wide receivers
against Seattle, Dallas, Chicago, and Carolina.
They faced some very good wide receivers,
but they've been awful.
It's against two wide receivers, basically,
in every game but one.
So that's obviously a Justin Jefferson stat.
And would you rather start Justin Jefferson
or Michael Gallup this week?
Jefferson. I'll go
Gallup. Would you
rather start Justin Jefferson or
Daryl Henderson this week?
Jefferson and Pippen.
It's so close.
I think I'll probably go Henderson.
Matt Ryan is a start
if Julio plays, and he's a sit if Julio does not play.
17th for Jamie is 20th for Dave.
14th for Heath.
And Todd Gurley, you're not sitting him at this point.
Got to go with him.
Yeah.
All right.
Calvin Ridley, fire him up.
Adam Thielen, fire him up.
Tell me how you feel about Kirk Cousins,
and we'll get to the...
Well, Hayden Hurst or Zach Ertz?
Hurst.
Ertz.
Okay.
I think Dave has them maybe back to back.
So they're not top.
Hayden Hurst is not top 12 for David Jamie.
He is top eight for Heath, though.
Minnesota, kind of hard to know.
They don't seem to be very good against tight ends,
but they haven't faced a lot of good ones.
All right.
How you feel about Kirk Cousins, Jamie?
I think he's a good streamer.
It's not going to be pretty because of the past attempts,
but he could have a like 203 type of game.
Wouldn't surprise me,
you know,
where he's just in that 27,
24 to 27 past temps.
He hits one to feel,
and he hits one to Jefferson.
He hits one to one of the tight ends or maybe Madison out of the backfield.
But he's not going to be a 35, 40 pass attempt type of guy
unless the Falcons offense is fantastic.
So it's not a very confident play in Kirk Cousins.
But if you couldn't get Andy Dalton off of waivers as the Dak Prescott manager
and you couldn't find a good replacement option for Russell Wilson or Drew Brees
or any other quarterbacks on a bye,
he's not a bad pivot play just because of the matchup.
Do you see a correlation between...
He does have multiple touchdowns, too, of his last three,
so that's something you can hang your hat on.
Do you see a correlation between your confidence
in Kirk Cousins and Julio Jones' availability?
It's probably fair.
I mean, Matt Ryan's gone, you know, three...
Excuse me, 11 quarters,
the better part of three games without throwing a touchdown.
So their offense has not been good. And so Todd Gurley can only do so much,
which is hard to say that in 2020. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's,
I don't really think that to be honest,
though Julio playing or not playing is going to sway what Kirk cousins does
because we saw it in the beginning part of the season when they were down,
they still ran when they're up,'re gonna run you know so this is
more of are they going to try and just get Kirk Cousins going a little bit and and maybe that's
the case yeah okay that's just my point was Falcons scored a lot of points with Julio healthy
they've been bad without him you want you want them to score points if you if you're starting
Cousins this week uh and then, yeah, Thielen. We talked about
Jefferson, and nobody's trusting
Irv Smith, but he or
Rudolph could find the end zone. The Falcons have allowed
seven touchdowns to tight ends.
And that is it, folks.
All right. You guys ready?
Ready for week six?
Yes.
That Colts game is fine.
Everything else trending in the right direction.
I hope so.
Keep an eye on that news.
If you're a nervous Nelly like me,
go ahead and make sure that you've got a replacement option
good to go for Taylor, Mixon.
Who else is huge in that game?
I'm blanking on it right now.
Those would be the two.
Obviously, T.Y. Hilton.
Boyd.
But Boyd is. Rivers. I like T.Y. Hilton. Tyler Boyd. Yeah. Boyd. But Boyd is.
Rivers.
And I like T.Riggins this week.
I think he'd be good if he played.
Yeah.
Colts, DST.
Burton.
Oh, my God.
You got to find a blank in replacement
for blank in shit.
Oh, no.
I hope that blank in game gets played.
Let's wrap it up.
If not, I'll be blank in mad.
We'll talk to you on the Mailbag Show.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
Have a great weekend.
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