Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Brady, Gibson, Swift and More! (11/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 11, 2022

Cordarrelle Patterson or D'Onta Foreman rest of season? We kick it off with a recap of Falcons-Panthers, talking Kyle Pitts, D.J. Moore and everything else you need to know from that game. Then we talk about the quarterback injuries we're monitoring in Buffalo, Arizona and Los Angeles and what it means for the wide receivers (9:05) ... News and notes (13:40), Beat the Waiver Wire (21:00) and One Question for Each Game (26:40)! Start Leonard Fournette? Darnell Mooney? James Conner? ... Start or Sit for Seahawks-Buccaneers (31:00), Commanders-Eagles (42:15), Lions-Bears (48:15), Cowboys-Packers (59:30), Cardinals-Rams (1:07:15) and Texans-Giants (1:14:15) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Happy Friday, everybody. Welcome to the show. We've got six games to tell you about today. We're going out to Germany. We're not actually going there, but we're previewing that game. Seattle and Tampa Bay. Philadelphia, Washington, a rematch. Detroit and Chicago.

Dallas at Green Bay. Arizona at the Rams. Going to get a starting quarterback in that game. Houston at the Giants. And, of course, we'll recap the thrilling game from last night, Carolina 22, Atlanta 15. First, though, happy Veterans Day. Shout out to the veterans. We love you.

We appreciate you. Everything you've done. Thank you for your service. And you deserve more than one day. But today is your day. Happy Veterans Day. And happy Friday, Dave and Jamie. What's up, guys?

What's up, guys? What's up, Adam? Special shout out to brand new Marine Tyler Woods, who's hanging out. I think he's in North Carolina right now. He's a friend of the family. And certainly remembering past veterans in my family, including my grandfather, Jerome Richard, who served in World War II. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.

About that. Cool, man. Jamie, you good? Feeling good? Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. About that. Cool, man. Jamie, you good? Feeling good? Yeah, man. You good? I'm good, yeah. What a game.

Carolina 22, Atlanta 15. Did you stay awake? You know, I was very tired yesterday, but I did stay awake. I do FFT in five right after the game with Chris. He was really mad about Kyle Pitts. Man, so was everybody. He goes to bat for Pitts every week,

and it's like Pitts could be having these big games, and Mariota just can't fight him. And Arthur Smith didn't exactly say no to Desmond Ritter starting next week. He just deflected on the question. He did not say Marcus Mariota is starting next week, so we'll keep an eye on that. Before we get to that, who would you guys rather have rest of season?

Deontay Foreman. Another huge game for him. Now three 100-yard games. He had 31 carries, 130 yards, and a touchdown after a terrible game last week. Deontay Foreman or Cordero Patterson? I would go with Foreman. The Falcons seem pretty content with splitting up the touches,

and it's rather frustrating. So I think Foreman, while he will lose some to potentially both Blackshear and Hubbard, he's their guy. So as long as he's their guy, he's going to get more touches than Patterson. I agree. The only case you can make for Patterson is that the schedule moving up for him is pretty good. He's got the Bears next week, Commanders after that, Arizona in week 17,

fantasy championships on the line. I would expect that they do try and thin out what they've got at running back in Atlanta. But until that happens, I don't think you can expect 15 touches from Cordero Patterson. So the Panthers are riding with Foreman. I agree. It's not really that great of a schedule though,

either. I mean, sorry to start a nitpick here, but there's also a buy in there. There's Baltimore. They both do. They both have a buy. They both have a buy.

Okay. Um, all right. Yeah. So in there. They both do. They both have a bye. They both have a bye. Okay. Alright, yeah, so that was encouraging for Foreman. I guess follow-up on this is just based on last week going so poorly, it was 35-0. But they're not a good team, right? They're a

three-win team. You try to sell Deontay Foreman, or better yet, how much faith do you have in him? How much confidence do you have in him? Is he a must-start? Has he entered must start territory? Deontay Foreman, Dave, you can start. I'll say that he has entered must start territory because how many running backs are out there who have a shot at getting 15 touches per game, even when it's a competitive game or

maybe even when they're down 10 points, something like that in the second half. I still think Foreman's going to get some work. I think they like what he gives them. Obviously they do. It's when they get their doors blown off, which is what happened against Cincinnati where they go, well, can't run the ball anymore. We're down five touchdowns. It's halftime. That's when you know that Deontay Foreman's not going to be any good. How many matchups do they have left where that's definitely going to be the case? I'll just look at their next three. At Baltimore, it's going to be really tough, but I don't think they're going to get

their doors blown off by halftime. Denver, after, but I don't think they're going to get their doors blown off by halftime Denver. After that, I don't think they're going to get their doors blown off. Then a buy. And then at Seattle, that's probably going to be like the Pete Carroll, ideal football game in the history of,

of Pete Carroll, ideal football games because both teams will run at a ton. I'm good with Foreman. If you can sell real high on him, sure. But you'll do that with anybody. I just realized I sent a group text this morning to Dave, Jamie, and our producer, Zach, and I put my brother Dave on it and not Dave Richards.

So, oops. All right, Jamie, for the pass catchers in this game, Drake London, five catches, 38 yards, and a touchdown. Kyle Pitts, two catches for 28 yards. He now has six games with fewer than five PPR fantasy points. However, we are seeing two games in a row, missed opportunities, getting open, having chances. So we've got Pitts.

We've got DJ Moore, who had a bad game. We've got Drake London. Do you trust any pass catcher on either team? No. Moore will still be somebody that you should consider using in three receiver leagues, but the two-game sample size is not enough at this point, I think, to say he's solved after what we saw in the first two starts with PJ Walker. I mean, you know, in the games where they're probably chasing points. So next week against Baltimore, yes, they're probably chasing points. Um, you feel a little bit better about him,

but to receiver leagues, there's no way you can comfortably start DJ more at this point. Uh, London, great that he scored, um, him and kyle pitts you know it just depends on what your tight end situation is at this point but again you know same similar similar situation you know if if you're winning in spite of him i would look for an upgrade for the fantasy playoffs if you're losing with his poor play you've been making a mistake by clearly starting them all this time okay anything else on this game, guys? Miss anything? I don't think so. Okay, Terrace Marshall had a 41, 43-yard catch.

That was cool. That led the Panthers in receiving. Don't forget about LaVisca Chenault's touchdown run. Run, yeah. I guess the one thing if you want to look for some semblance of hope for DJ Moore is that to sort of piggyback on what Dave was talking about with Foreman, if they are chasing points not in terrible weather, maybe that helps. And Mariota, by the way, has scored 17 or more fantasy points in seven of 10 games. And he's had three really bad games, and he's scored 20 or more fantasy points the following week all three times.

So he had a 3.9 point game, he scored 20. He had a 7.6 point game, he scored 20 the next week. Maybe I'm missing one. But anyway, he's actually been pretty solid. But he may not be the starting quarterback next week. There's a chance that doesn't happen. All right, anyway, let's get to some more interesting stuff. We're going to find out if Des Desmond Reuters ready because if they

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and it seems like, just based on practicing, Kyler Murray has the best chance to play right now because Allen and Stafford are not practicing. Let's talk about Diggs, Hopkins, and Kup, three of the best wide receivers in fantasy football. If their quarterbacks do not play, where would you rank Diggs, Hopkins, and Kup, Dave? They will all remain top 15 fantasy receivers in full PPR

because I think they will all still get a lot of targets. They just won't be the same types of targets. Certainly not as many targets of 16 plus area. It's something like that. I sat on HQ yesterday to Jamie. You remember that game that Cooper cup had where he had 19 targets and 14 catches and didn't even average 10 yards per catch.

That's what I think you'll get out of Cooper cup this week, which is still amazing in PPR. And of course we'll take that in non PPR. I think you'll see lesser versions of that from digs and Hopkins, at least in the case of digs, he's playing with a quarterback that he's familiar with. The quarterback knows what he can do. They've hooked up for some touchdowns along the way. I think you could be fairly encouraged by digs. I just wouldn't expect 130 yards and two touchdowns.

I think you can feel okay about Hopkins. I wouldn't expect nine catches for 120 yards. You're still going to start them. They're still going to be good. They won't be great. The guy I look at in your rankings, Dave, you're a little lower on him, but Jamie has Christian Kirk 12th, you have him 16th, Heath has him 13th, and I wonder, would you drop any of those three guys with a backup quarterback, Cup, Diggs, Hopkins,

behind Christian Kirk? Hopkins, if there's no Kyler. The other two, no. I'd consider it with Hopkins, and in non- PPR, I'd consider it with all three. Okay. Um, okay. Do you like Juju or those guys?

Man, Juju. I would start Juju over Hopkins and PPR. If Kyler were out. Yep. Yeah. All right. So, uh, so when we go through these games, I don't want to really like rehash this.

So just that's your, and the other guy, like the Gabe Davis is the, um, Rondell Moore, I guess would be kind of interesting. I don't think we're starting Alan Robinson, but Gabe Davis,

Rondell Moore, significant drop in the rankings. I don't, I don't know how much we, it's college playing. Okay. Okay. Then.

So Gabe Davis, then. So Gabe Davis, then. I know we did this yesterday, but just to put a bow on it because Josh Allen, once again, did not practice and we didn't know that when we recorded yesterday. Where will Gabe Davis be

if Allen's out? 183rd. Low end number three receiver. All right. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. That's fantastic. I mean, they're beat up in their secondary, so hopefully Case Keenum can get them going if you're stuck.

Could he have an Orchard Park miracle to Gabe Davis? It's possible, but that's like you're starting them with low expectations if you're starting them at all. Okay, so we'll take a break. When we come back, we'll go through the injuries. We'll go through the beat the waiver wire players for you. We will go through one question for each game, and we'll get into it.

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Ryan Tannehill also practiced in full. So we are expecting Ryan Tannehill to play against Denver. Don't start him. So all the quarterbacks, all the stud quarterbacks. Exactly. Good injury updates. Running back news. Jonathan Taylor practiced in full. You guys expect him to go, right?

Yes. No, practicing in full is a terrible sign. Yeah. Just double-checking. And the Raiders linebacking core, talking about this on FFT in five. Divine Diablo is on IR. Blake Martinez played 90% of the snap,

90-plus percent of the snaps last week. He retired this week. That's kind of just funny to say. I hope everything's okay with him. I'm not sure why he retired. Can you imagine being a Raiders beat right yesterday and just the news you got hit with? Oh, I know. We'll get to that in a second.

And Denzel Perryman's beat up, but it looks like he's probably going to play. So it's a great matchup for Taylor. Ezekiel Elliott is questionable. We're going to preview that game pretty soon. We're not sure if he's going to play. Aaron Jones was limited. Same game. We don't know what the running back situation is going to be in Dallas-Green Bay, but

Jones has been practicing each of the last two days in a limited fashion. Derrick Henry has not been practicing. Are we concerned about this? He's the same thing the last couple of weeks, so I would say no, but obviously if he does not practice Friday, he should be a little bit alarmed. But it sounds like it's just been more rest.

At this point, they just have to put him in bubble wrap until game day. They didn't list an actual injury on the injury report. They just said resting player. Okay. JD McKissick missed practice. Kyron Williams could play this week. He's 35% rostered. Wide receiver news.

We know that Kenny Galladay and Traylon Burks look... Well, we don't know about Burks, but they look like they're coming back this week. Brandon Cooks practiced, so he's going to play. Nico Collins was limited. They might have their full arsenal against the Giants for Houston. Keenan Allen and Mike Williams missed practice.

We're not expecting them. Jahan Dotson practiced. Mecole Hardman has mispracticed now two days in a row with an abdomen injury. Jamie, if Mecole Hardman does not play, what does that mean for the rest of the wide receivers for Kansas City? It means that there's opportunity for either MVS

or potentially Kadarius Toney because he kind of fits that mold a little bit more so than MVS does. And so this would be the time to see what he can offer to this offense, more so than just, you know, the handful of plays that he had in week nine. But you can't start anybody with any semblance of confidence. It's more, oh my gosh, my team is in dire need of someone. And I picked up Kadarius Tony.

Let me see what happens if there is no Hardman. But Friday's practice will kind of tell you where they're at. And Dave, if we look at tight end news, David Njoku missed practice. But let's go tight end slash wide receiver here and talk about the Raiders. So Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro are on IR. And when you step back and look at it, they've gotten nothing from Waller lately, obviously, and they've gotten very little from Renfro. So, you know, people asking about Morrow and Matt Collins, and do you recommend adding those guys?

Bi-week replacement types, and in the case of Hollins, you can stash them and see what develops. In the last three games, there hasn't been any Waller for those games. Do you know who's second on the Raiders and Target share? target share? Well,

targets, it's not, it could be targets too. Obviously it's, it's tomorrow. It is. Yeah. So I,

I, I can't help, but suggest him as like a bi-week tight end. And you know, people have been getting by with a different tight end for Waller for a while now. So this isn't some sort of shock. It just sucks that he's not going to be good to go.

If you're in a, I don't know how deep the league has to be. I'm in a 14 team league. I'm not picking him up, but Keelan Cole is probably going to replace on a run for on the slot. So he'll get those five fantasy points that on a run for they indicated that Adam's going to play more in a slot. Okay. Then Cole could play on the outside.

It's just, it shapes up for Adams to be 10 targets a slot. Okay, so then Cole could play on the outside. It shapes up for Adams to be 10 targets a game. So Matt Collins played two games already this season without Hunter Renfro. One was against Tennessee. One was against Denver. So wide range of spectrum of matchup. Against the Titans,

week three, he had 11 targets, 8 catches, 158 yards and a touchdown. Against the Broncos, which we know they lock down outside receivers, 3 catches, 33 yards, and 5 targets. So 16 targets over two games, 11 catches, 180-plus yards, and a touchdown. So take that for what it's worth. This is not the easiest of matchups, but if you look at who the Colts have played, they haven't exactly played world beaters from a passing game standpoint.

I think Hollins is 100% worth picking up. I think it's worth looking at him as a number three receiver this week if you're stuck. And he may come out of this as the biggest winner because I think just in terms of upside, if he's now the number one outside guy,

if Adams is now in the slot, Derek Carr is still going to look for him and hopefully we're looking at maybe six to seven targets per game. His matchup this week is not good against the Colts. I don't think there's been a single number two wide receiver that's had a good game against the Colts. There, I don't think there's been a single number two wide receiver.

That's had a good game against the Colts. I mean, I'm looking, but if you go back and look what they played, I'm in agreement with you. It's not a good matchup. You shouldn't, you shouldn't be starting him,

but they played Jacksonville twice and Kirk had one good game, one bad game. They played the Texans twice already, or just one. They played the Texans once. They've played the Titans twice yes oh the Titans twice so there's that passing game you know so it's not like they face a lot of great passing the best number two receivers they face were Jerry Judy 53 yards and Curtis

Samuel 50 yards and those guys are slot guys the Hollins isn't but for what it's worth I don't think there's been a number two receiver that's had more than 53 yards against the Colts this year. And his schedule is not easy. After this, they get Denver, then they get Seattle, then the Chargers. So it's not like he's going to have favorable matchups the rest of the way. But still, it's worth your interest if you've been cycling through some of these guys. I put them in the same range at this point. Darius Slayton, Donovan Peoples-Jones.

I would have said Terrace Marshall before the game, so you don't want to play the outcome there. But those type of guys that you've sort of been seeing what happens, there's an opportunity now for him. The end of season schedule, depending on how long he's out, is very favorable. Okay, offensive line and defensive news. The Cardinals' offensive line is such a mess right now.

Very, very injured. Keep that in mind. That's a bad thing for the run game against the Rams. Defensively, we saw Jason Verrett for the Niners. He hadn't played yet, but he was working his way back and he tore his Achilles. It was very sad for them.

I didn't see an update on Jeffrey Simmons or Bud Dupree, but I don't know. That defense is beat up bad. Titans defense is beat up bad. Yeah. Titans defenses beat up bad. And if those guys are out, then Broncos run game could look really,

really good this week. We still don't know about TJ watt, but I know he's optimistic about playing Jordan Poyer and Tremaine Benven's mispractice again for the bills. Kyrie Harlem cornerback. He mispracticed, but Dane Jackson was, was,

uh, yeah. Dane Jackson and Matt Milano were making progress. So yeah, those are the big ones. Oh, Arizona safety Buda Baker and cornerback Byron Murphy. They mispracticed on Thursday. Those are huge. Those are their two best defensive backs.

Yeah, we got to pay attention to that for their game against John Wolford and the Rams. Oh, never mind. Let's beat the waiver wire here. And all right. Not so much looking at next week. I mean, I was going to recommend Daniel Jones, but he's actually rostered in about 80% of leagues.

I think that means people are buying into him against the Texans. His projections on our side are very high. Yeah, he's at the Lions next week. I guess you could look at Giants wide receivers against the Lions next week. But how do you guys feel? Oh, Kenny Galladay revenge game. That's why he's at the Lions next week. I guess you could look at Giants wide receivers against the Lions next week. But how do you guys feel? Kenny Galladay revenge game.

That's why he's getting. Hey, how do you guys feel about Kyron Williams? How do you feel about Odell Beckham? We still have Jalen Warren out there. We still have Latavious Murray out there. How do you feel about those guys? So, first of all, what's the roster ship on Slayton? Good question.

You look that up. I read a story. 57%. How much is it? 57. And Wanda was 46. So he's still out there. I'd rather have him than Matt Collins,

just as an example. Jordan Roderick does a great job covering the Rams. She had a 10-question post post on the athletic. And one of her very first posts was that Kyron Williams is expected to have a meaningful role. That's my word, not hers when he is activated. So I'm glad you brought him up. I, you know, I don't know if there's a Rams running back that I feel great about, but he's in that stash territory of someone that you can pick up and see what happens.

And he's a good pass catcher out of the backfield. That's what he was best at at Notre Dame. So I wonder if they, they use them in that role and maybe he becomes a 10 PPR point floor guy. Uh, would you drop cam acres for him? I don't have camera. You can still stash him,

but he's sure it might be activated this week. So in theory, it would you rather have... If you're not using Cam Akers, then sure. Why not? I mean, if you're never going to play Cam Akers, just take the chance on the upside play. All right, 0-10. Your level of interest in adding Odell Beckham?

It really comes down to how deep your bench is. Because if you only have a five-person bench, there's no way you can pick him up. If you have an eight-person bench, then there's a much more significant interest. Elijah Moore, going to move into the slot maybe next week. Elijah Moore. On a side note, we had a very good interview with Jocena Anderson and Robert Sala on CBS Sports HQ. If you could find it on YouTube, I would recommend it because he talked about that. That's where he first brought it up.

Similar to Beckham. If you have a deep bench, why not? See what happens. But he's probably better suited to play outside than he is to play in a slot. Hopefully, it just opens up the targets. I'd rather have Jalen Warren. I think I'd rather have Kyron Williams. All right, we still have Donovan Peoples-Jones available

in almost 60% of leagues. We got Jarvis Landry, 70% available. Nico Collins, Traylon Burks, 26%. Christian Watson, 12%. The rookie receivers are interesting.

I don't think you have to prioritize them, though. And just to get ahead of the game, remember the Jaguars, Dolphins, seahawks and buccaneers are on a buy it is a bad quarterback week so with that said let's see some of the quarterbacks who are available and i might want i mean there there's one that's interesting not guaranteed to play but carson wentz is eligible to come off ir next week they get texans yeah if heineke has a terrible game they they might go back to him. That would make some sense.

Daniel Jones makes some sense because he's too rostered, though. He's 82%. Oh, okay. Never mind. That's what I was saying. I think people are buying into Daniel Jones against the Texans.

The Texans have been a bad matchup for quarterbacks, for what it's worth. That's true. If in a shallower league, Russell Wilson's available. He gets the Raiders next week. He has a very good schedule

going forward just to begin with. I was going to recommend Mariota against the Bears, but you can't do that anymore. Heineke himself, you know. Let's see, who does Andy Dalton have next week? Dalton has the Rams. The Rams. Can they please bench him already?

So, look, it's really not a bad idea to try to get a quarterback if you can. It might have to be Heineke if Russell it's not, it's really not a bad idea to try to get a quarterback. If you can, it might have to be Heineke. If, if Russell Wilson's not available, uh, but you're going to have a lot of competition because to, uh, Brady,

Gino Smith, and who is the other team on by, uh, Jack and Trevor Lawrence. They're all on by next week. You're going to have a lot of potential. These are the type of things you want to look for. If people drop them on Thursday or Friday,

uh, Sunday morning, Stafford, if he doesn't play, if people drop them on Thursday or Friday, Sunday morning. Stafford, if he doesn't play, may get dropped because people have to make a roster move. They get the Saints. That's a decent matchup if Lattimore's out. You mentioned Russell Wilson. Not everybody buying back into him.

The Patriots, DST, if they've been dropped, those type of things you want to look for. They get the Jets. I know the Jets have looked better, but still Zach Wilson against Bill Belichick in Foxborough. Those type of things are the ones that help you win. And the Patriots DST

has been dropped. They're 85% rostered. It's still very rostered, but this reminds me a lot of the Eagles and the Cowboys DSTs who... I have seven leagues on CBS. Yeah, yeah. I have seven leagues on CBS, and in two of those leagues, the Eagles got dropped for their bye

and the Cowboys in two leagues. So 85% rostered. No, they're not widely available, but worth checking certainly on the Patriots DST. I think the thing that, you know, just advice for people moving forward when you get in these situations, wait until Saturday to drop these DSTs

if you'd like to try and get a chance to get them back. Yeah. Because if you do it before then, you're giving everybody a chance that has an open roster spot to get them. I have the Patriots. I'm just waiting because I can't drop anybody else. I'm just waiting until Saturday to drop them. Then I'll take my chance

to try to get them back. Let's do one question for each game. We're going to start in Munich, Seattle at Tampa Bay. Start or sit, Leonard Fournette. And now we'll have a long discussion about the Bucs offense. It's going to be the first game we do. Jamie's got Brady as the start of the week.

But we didn't talk too much about Fournette. I don't think we talked about him at all yesterday. So start or sit, Leonard Fournette against Seattle. He's a reluctant start for me. He's in that same type of box as Montgomery and Najee. You're hoping he finds the end zone. You know he's going to play hopefully half the snaps for Tampa Bay.

You don't feel good about it. All right. Next game is Philadelphia at Washington. I'm going to give you three players. Jamie, who's your favorite flex? Antonio Gibson, Terry McLaurin, or Devante Smith? Antonio Gibson.

Followed by? Followed by McLaurin, followed by Smith. Okay. Dave, how would you order them, Gibson, McLaurin, Smith? I would order them McLaurin. I think I'd probably take my chances on the upside of Smith over Gibson.

It's pretty interesting. I feel like you know kind of what to do with your Eagles. Smith is always interesting, but great matchup for Antonio Gibson. And if the score gets out of hand, that might not be bad either. I think McKissick had six six catches in the first meeting. That, of course, was with Carson Wentz.

All right. Detroit and Chicago. Know who? I know Jordan Davis. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Detroit and Chicago. Can we really trust any Bears players other than Justin Fields, Dave Richard? Any who players? Bears players? Yeah. I think the same

thing I said about Fournette, you can say about Montgomery. I think Mooney is an okay number three receiver. I think Komet is probably at the top of the top as far as streaming tight ends go. They've been scheming him up a lot more in the last two weeks, so I don't mind recommending him, but that's it.

That's all I like. No Claypool. But the only one you really like is Fields, I'm guessing, right? You have to start Justin Fields. He's been playing so well. No, it was more of... Do you like David Montgomery in this matchup or do you love David Montgomery?

Like. Okay. But it's like a...'s like a uh okay that kind of like if you were giving like let's go out for cheeseburgers but you're buying them from a guy on the side of the road if you were giving him a valentine's day card would it be one with like a a rest like it would be a piece of paper that i folded in half and wrote happy val's Day, dude. I remember I used to have the ones at the time, WWF wrestlers Happy Valentine's Day.

Oh, classy. Those were good times. Dallas at Green Bay. If all four running backs play, who is the best running back of this game, Jamie? If all four running backs play, Jones. Jones play, Jones.

Dave Jones? Agreed. It's going to be a Packer sandwich. I'm just not sure what's in between. The buns. Okay. Arizona at the Rams. We already talked about Cooper Cup.

He's going to be a start no matter what. Start or sit James Conner? I would sit him if you can. I like Fournette better. Fournette or Connor? Also Fournette, Jamie? Fournette, yeah. Okay.

Houston at the Giants. Do you start anyone in this game other than the running backs? I would not be surprised. You can't trust it if Brandon Cooks goes off in this game just than the running backs? I would not be surprised. You can't trust it if Brandon Cooks goes off in this game just based on the narrative. But no, can't trust it. Darius Slayton is a great bi-week wide receiver.

Maybe an okay number three wide receiver. I got a text message from our producer, Zach Brooke, big Washington fan, who has reminded me, it is Washington at Philadelphia, not Philadelphia at Washington from our producer, Zach Brooke, big Washington fan, who has reminded me, it is Washington at Philadelphia, not Philadelphia at Washington. Thank you, Zach. That is a Monday night game.

And yeah, Philadelphia is at, no, Washington is at Philadelphia. I did it again. All right, Seattle at Tampa Bay. Now in order to, what's that? Well, Seattle in Munich at Tampa Bay. Okay. Now in order to make this show that? Well, Seattle in Munich at Tampa Bay. Okay. Now, in order to make this show less than an hour and 30 minutes, remember the old Mike D'Antoni seven seconds or less?

Sum up this game in seven words or less, Dave. Seattle at Tampa Bay. It's not going to save... Oh, I know what this is all about. Go ahead. No, you don't. Sum it up seven seven words or less should be a very good game there that's all you have to say um no play your music no no it's not no it's not those are my seven words or less seattle tim bay jamie uh if you you look at this game actually i committed to being quicker today i could i committed to getting into the games Seven words or less. Seattle to Tampa Bay. Jamie, if you look at this game, actually, I committed to being quicker today.

I committed to getting into the games faster, so I'm not going to give all the stats. You should have played the song already. This is not the game of the week. Stop. All right. Jamie, I'm going to give you the first word. I want to know how confident both of you are in Tom Brady, Mike Evans, and Chris Godwin specifically.

I know he's the start of the week. Jamie, go for it. Very confident in Brady. Very confident in Godwin. Very confident in Evans. Dave. Less confident in Brady. Very not confident in Godwin.

Very okay with Mike Evans. Okay, so Jamie obviously is putting his chips in for Tom Brady. Dave, how do you feel about Tom Brady? I think he'll be okay. I've got him ranked as a top 10 quarterback this week. But how do you ignore what he's done over the last five games where there have been times where he's close and he should have had a monster fantasy game last week, tougher matchup, but this is still a tough matchup. But last week,

tougher matchup barely moved the ball into the red zone. And he really looked, the whole offense looked anemic until the last two minutes of the game. I'm nervous that he's going to come through with another game of 18 to 21 fantasy points. Same old, same old for Brady, 300 yards. That's easy. Two touchdowns. I don't think he can do it. I think part of the problem is that he doesn't have enough downfield separators. He's got Evans, but he's made a bunch of mistakes. I don't think Godwin's running like he used to. Scottie Miller makes mistakes. Kate Otten's interesting. If he ends up playing, I like his chances. But if Cameron Brayt's back,

Otten's off the field potentially for half the game. So I just, I can't buy into what Brady can be and what Jamie's vision for Brady is. Knowing what I've seen for the past few weeks and knowing that Seattle's defense, what is it, 21 or more fantasy points at two of the last three quarterbacks they've faced. I think that's the standard.

That's I think it's 21 and it's not bad, but you can 22, whatever it is. But I feel like that's right around what you should expect from brain. And yeah. And it was sorry to Herbert and Kyler were those two quarterbacks and Kyler had 60 rushing yards. Okay.

And 22 fantasy points is going to get him into the top 10 quarterback this week. Yeah. And that's where I've got him ranked. All right, Jamie, what is it about Tom Brady that you're excited about? Is it just the fact that he's Tom Brady and eventually he has to get better? Yeah, I mean, look, you know you're getting a high volume of fast attempts. It's seven straight games with 40-plus attempts's you you know you're getting a high volume of fast attempts at seven straight games with 40 plus attempts so you know you're getting that uh three of those games over 300 yards they've referenced that so i i think we'll see him get that um i think we might

get 250 plus at the half he's 258 from breaking blake portal's record of most passing yards in international games um he's typically aware of those type of things so i would not be surprised if he comes out throwing early and has success mostly because they can't run the ball. But we said it time and time again, there's been a lack of multiple touchdowns. He has one game of multiple touchdowns. If he gets the second touchdown because he hasn't been turning the ball over, then he's going to have a relatively big game. If he somehow manages to get to three touchdowns, which by the way, he's done in every international game played, then I think we're looking at a potential top three game for him this week. Now, will he do that against Seattle?

It's hard to say. You know, we've made a lot of excuses last week. It was Scottie Miller dropping an easy touchdown, him in the hands, and then Kate Otten if he gets a touchdown at the end. You know, so there is a play every week or a situation every week that has been taking him away from the second touchdown. So it's can that finally happen? I think that's the case.

And I do think this is a game, based on Seattle's secondary, that you can beat them up a little bit from the inside out. Not to stay away from Mike Evans, because I don't think that's ever going to happen, especially with the receiving court being what it is. But I do think this is a Chris Godwin game. By the way, both guys have been getting consistent double-digit targets. So at some point, all these guys are going to come together

and have a good game. I do think it happens this week. Okay. This, I would say, I don't really know. I love advanced stats, but I don't know how useful they are. You know? But I don't know how... Depends on the stat. I don't know how useful conventional

stats are when it comes to just predicting the future, but I think Chris Godwin might have the worst advanced stats of any player I've seen. There are 69 wide receivers that have had 30 or more targets. 69 wide receivers with 30 or more targets. He has the lowest average route depth of all of those receivers. And actually, it wouldn't be that big of a deal if his catch rate were higher

because some of the guys that are in the bottom five are like Rondell Moore, Amandra St. Brown, Juju Smith-Schuster. You can get away with having a very low route depth. What's weird about Godwin is he has like a 64% catch rate. That is unbelievable. It should be well over 70% with the routes that he's running. I cannot tell you what's going on there. I just know that the Godwin-Brady connection is just broken right now. And I don't really know what else to say. I've broken it down. But I hadn't seen that stat before. I knew he was running short routes.

I didn't realize it was basically the shortest in the NFL of any wide receiver. And he's not catching enough of them. So that's really the big issue with Godwin, guys. I don't know. What do you make of that, Dave? Well, you see it in his receiving average. It's, it's way lower. I believe it's way lower than it's ever been in his career. And if it's not, it's gotta be close, but you can, you can talk about touchdown regression for Godwin, but how about just,

how about just catch regression? How about just catch? Uh, I think he does. How about just catch regression? Because he should be, there is no reason why he shouldn't be catching 73, 74% of his passes. That would make a big difference, you know? But also the yak is just not there. I mean, they're just getting nothing after the catch. So, all right, we'll see. Hopefully you can turn around.

I want to see, I'd like to see how many red zone and end zone targets he's had this year. Actually already had. And I've got it. Seven red zone targets, zero end zone targets he's had this year actually already and i've got it seven red zone targets zero end zone targets zero yeah but what about inside the 10 like there's some of those now let's see inside the 10 he has take a guess three jamie it's zero isn't it? I'll say zero. It's four. Oh, yeah. See, I knew it was not bad. Four inside the 10 targets in seven games.

What do you think it was last year? Well, first of all, let's call it six games because he barely played against the Cowboys. That's just an azure step. I don't know. What was it last year? This is really speeding the show up, by the way. Yeah, what was it last year?

Eight. Okay. If we keep this going, we'll be on the air by the time the game kicks off. Geno Smith or Tom Brady? We need to break down Brashad Perryman, guys. We needed to break down their passing game. Geno Smith or Brady, you say Geno. Jamie?

Brady, but both should be good. Okay. All right. Ken Walker must start. Let's talk about Leonard Fournette. And you said you'd start him over James Conner. Would you start Leonard Fournette or Miles Sanders? Sanders.

Even in PPR, Sanders has like one catch in his last three games. Super. Sanders also has a lot of touchdowns and he plays on a better offense that can run the ball. And he's not being threatened for playing time by a spicy young rookie. Okay, so would you play Leonard Fournette or Khalil Herbert?

Fournette. Fournette. How about Montgomery? Montgomery and Nonford and PPR. Okay, Montgomery and Nonford and PPR. How about Rashad White? I mean, would you start Rashad White or like a Broncos running back?

I would start Rashad White unless we get the injury news on the Titans that it's that bad, that Simmons and Dupree and Cunningham are out. Then I would go with a Broncos guy, but it's just, it's so hard to figure out which Broncos guy, that's the problem

so you're hoping for Murray to find the end zone, that would be my preferred one but at this point Rashad White, I'm very surprised that our projections, Sportsline has him projected for a very high number so that's a little interesting that the model that Stephen O uses is spinning out that type of number

we just have no indication that Leonard Fournette is getting benched. He's losing touches, but he's not getting benched. If Fournette was getting benched, Rashad White would be a must-start guy. Yeah. All right. So he's more of a desperation flex. What about Lockett and Metcalf? Must-start guys?

Yes. Yep. Lockett first. Okay. And Noah Fant? It is a little surprising that the NFL, their marketing,

the two billboards that they're using are Tom Brady for the Bucs and Metcalf for the Seahawks. Well, he's got like green hair sometimes, you know? He has two nose rings.

That's a lot of nose rings. That's two more than I have. All right. So, Noah Fant of nose rings. That's two more than I have. All right. So Noah Fant, real quick. Any interest? Top 20 tight end. He's not playing the Cardinals. No, he's only playing the Cardinals.

But Cade Otten has the best matchup in the world. And the Seahawks gave up the most fantasy points to tight ends. And Cade Otten has double-digit PPR fantasy points in three of four games that he has played without Cameron Brait. So what's the deal with Cameron Brait and starter Sid Kate Otten? Cameron Brait practiced in full.

I was trying to find out, I'm assuming he made the trip to Munich they left this morning or late last night. And I'm guessing he was there because the only list I saw was the players who did not go, which Russell Gates was one of them, for example. Now the question becomes is, does Cameron Brayt replace Kate Otten as the primary pass-catching tight end? So he's going to lose snaps, Otten is, but has he done anything to lose the pass-catching role?

I don't think so. Pete Prisco doesn't think so. We'll find out if the Bucs think so. But Brayt was very uninspiring as a receiver. Kate Otten has been very good as a receiver. So why would you take that off the field if you're Tom Brady? But what are we going to do? If Cameron Bray is playing, are we going to start Kate Otten?

So I originally started the week with Kate Otten as a top five tight end. He's now back and number one tight end. So if you are comfortable enough with him by comparison to Cole Komet, if you're comfortable enough with him by comparison to Cole commit, um, if you're comfortable enough with him by comparison to Greg Dolchitz, I would start Dolchitz, but I can see the debate either way. Um,

if, if we find out and I'm going to reach out to the people I know that cover the box that on this little pass catching role, then all systems go, but if rates going to take them off the field, then you got to be worried. All right. Next game,

Washington to Philadelphia, Jamie play the game. Sum this game up in seven words or less. Start all Eagles, sit Curtis Haino. Okay. Start all Eagles. Does that include Devontae Smith? Number three or two. Okay.

All right. Yeah,'s let's talk about that because you know there are some big weeks left right but we're just getting a very few pass attempts from jalen hertz 25 to 28 pass attempts in four of his last five games and davante smith just does not do well when that is the case um so earlier you guys debated Smith versus McLaurin. Well, you didn't really debate it, but you ranked them differently. I think, Dave, you like McLaurin better. Oh, maybe, Jamie, you also like McLaurin better. No, you like Gibson.

I like Gibson the best. My bad. I like Gibson, McLaurin, Smith. I think Dave likes the receivers over Gibson. I do. Okay, so you both like McLaurin over Smith. We do. Yeah.

I mean, this is an interesting one because McLaurin had a great game against them. Smith had a monster game. Yeah, Smith had an even better game. But that was the squeaky wheel game, though. For Devante Smith, yeah. Yeah, prior to that game was Nick Sirianni talking him up. And McLaurin kind of took Darius Slade to school in that game.

But he doesn't... Like, that was surprising. Because last year he didn't do well against the Eagles. He's got a history of not doing great against great corners. I don't love McLaurin in this game, but I think at least you trust that if they're chasing points, the target's probably a little bit safer for him than they are for Smith. Because if the Eagles don't necessarily feature Smith early,

and they're up big, it's probably minimal production coming his way. Okay, let's do McLaurin. Would you start McLaurin or Deontay Johnson? McLaurin. I'm not starting Deontay Johnson. It's close in PPR, though, because the targets will be close. In full PPR, would you start McLaurin or Rondell Moore if Kyler Murray

plays? McLaurin. Rondell. McLaurin or Josh Palmer? Palmer. I believe I. Rondell. McLaurin or Josh Palmer? Palmer. I believe I have Palmer ranked higher. All right. Do you want one more reason for optimism with McLaurin? His target share with Taylor Heineke is almost 30%.

Yeah. That's excellent. All right. Devante Smith or Darnell Mooney? Mooney. I have Mooney one spot higher than Smith, but they're both in that boom-bust, high-end, number-three receiver,

Gabe Davis range. Both ahead of Gabe Davis, by the way. Right, and we know Goddard hurts, A.J. Brown must start, sitting Logan Thomas, probably trying to sit Curtis Samuel, and Heineke. So that brings us to Antonio Gibson,

who, you know, had a bad game, but there's big opportunity here. What's the updated stat? With Jordan Davis off the field, the Eagles are allowing now 5.86 yards per carry to running backs. Unbelievably bad. Alright, Jamie. So,

you guys have Gibson 20th. I think Dave has him 27th. Is that right? Or are those old rankings? No, 24th. 21st for Jamie, 24th for Dave. And Heath has Gibson 19th. Jonathan Taylor

or Antonio Gibson? Taylor. More upside with Taylor if he's Taylor. Yeah, but Gibson, I mean, you can see a lot of upside, right? Huge. Talk to me about how you're approaching him.

Well, I think, first off, they got to me about how you're approaching him. Well, I think first off, they got to get back to throwing the ball. You know, last week was a little strange that they got away from that, but, um, you know,

the Eagles don't necessarily give up a lot of production to pass catching running backs aside from what they did to McKissick earlier in this, in this matchup. Um, he scored against them. Gibson did. He was more of the primary running back at that point.

But I think this, the, you know, again, when you play out game scripts, this is the game script that you like for him. Eagles up big, him chasing points. You know, we saw that two weeks ago when he had seven catches.

You know, prior to that, he had the first two games with Taylor Heineke, 10 catches, and he scored two touchdowns through the air. So it's an opportunity against a run defense that's a little bit weaker and a game script that should be favorable. So I think he can, you know, get to that 12 to 14 PPR point range without scoring, and if he scores, he'll have a big production. If Zeke plays, are you starting Tony Pollard,

Ezekiel Elliott, or Antonio Gibson? That's a good one. I would start Gibson probably over Pollard and PPR. Zeke over both. Zeke over both. Zeke over... Zeke would be number one for you? Zeke over Gibson and Zeke over both. Zeke over... Zeke would be number one for you? Zeke over Gibson and Pollard, yes.

Oh, wow. Okay. I can see that in non-PPR, but I think I'd flip it in PPR. I'd probably go... I might go Gibson first in PPR. I don't want to say that he's going to totally suck. I think the floor's 10 PPR points.

I think that's solid. 16% target share from Taylor Heine points. I think that's solid. 16% target share from Taylor Heineke this year. That's good. When he's actually on the field, his target per route run rate is almost one third of Heineke's throws. That's really high. It's just a matter of how much Heineke will throw to him. It's 14 targets in three games.

It's not bad. The game script really has to go Gibson's way. it's 14 targets in three games. It's not bad. Um, it, the game script really has to go Gibson's way. And if it does, then he's got a shot to be really good. I think he's going to be their main running back. I would expect him to play like 55, 60% of the snaps.

He just has to be effective with the touches that he gets half PPR. No, not PPR. Uh, I think he's easy to get away from. It's that full PPR where there's a chance he gets five catches and 40 yards. I think that's where it gets a little sticky. 10 to 12 PPR points.

And you're going to want to try to get away from Brian Robinson. It's just doesn't really feel like the game for him. You know, unless they're playing with the lead. Yeah. I don't think that's going to happen, but it could. And that's it.

And Philadelphia's DST is top two. All right, Detroit at Chicago, your stat of the game. The Lions allow the most everything to everyone. They are awful. Dave, can you give me seven words to describe this game? Oh, you might play the music again, though. I haven't played. What are you talking about? Oh, here it comes. Now I know it's right. It's the music again, though. I haven't played. What are you talking about?

Oh, here it comes. Now I know it's right. It's the game of the week, yeah. Seven words to describe it. The game of the week, yeah. Bad defense is Detroit, Chicago. All right, Dave, you're onto my tricks. It's getting hard here.

I might have to do this to Heath next week. But anyway, Detroit and Chicago is the game of the week. And I'm just expecting a lot of points, a lot of points, and probably a close game. It's going to be a high-scoring game. There's no defense on either side. Jared Goff's going to get you 30 fantasy points.

You have a knife. Justin Fields too. Yeah. You have a knife? Jared Goff? I do. Am I right about that? Yeah, I love him. I like him better than Brady. He's not pressured. He's fantastic. And it's even been that way recently. His last three touchdowns over the last two games. Not that that's a huge selling fantastic. And it's even been that way recently. His last three touchdowns

over the last two games. Now that that's like a huge selling point, but it's when he's not pressured. The bears traded Robert Gibson. They can't get pressure on anybody. They're going to have to dial up crazy blitzes. Maybe that works out for them. But I think St. Brown has a huge game. I think Jared golf has a very nice game and I'm trying to trade for him in a couple leagues just to use him for this week. I'm excited about the potential of it being a high-scoring game. And by the way, the whole seven words or less thing was really just a setup. I know.

Yeah. It was a bad segment. But the thing that you screwed up with was when you asked me the seven words or less, then when Dave started talking, you should have did it with the other game. Exactly. What other game?

I mean, it could have been this game. Yeah, that's the thing. I was saving it for this game. This is the game of the week. But you were also saving it for me. Your setup was bad because what you should have done was ask me seven words or less like you did, which is what you told me you were going to do. And then when you, Dave, what is your thoughts?

Then you should have played. Yeah. You got to get more creative. Oh, that's a good idea. That's what I thought your setup was. I should have gone to you more creative. Oh, that's a good idea. That's what I thought your setup was. I should have gone to you for that. Yeah, that's a good idea. Come on, man.

You got to scheme it up a little bit. Oh, that would have been so much better. All right, what do we do with the Lions running backs, which is a big question mark every week, Jamie? I think they're going to run all over the Bears. Jamal Williams just had a game where they won, and he had 24 carries. And so I'd be very surprised if it's not a 30-carry game

unless they're just getting destroyed, which I can't see that happening either. So, you know, 30 carries is well within the range of both Swift and Williams. Williams is the guy you have to trust at this point. You know, Swift is not a bad back-end RB2 flex play. You know, if you have both, I don't know if you want to play both, but I can see Goff being good. I don't see him to the same level Dave has it

because I don't think without his weapons, he's going to be as fantastic. If there's no Reynolds without Hawkinson, I just don't think he's going to get enough numbers just from Amara St. Brown alone. So, you know, this is a running back game for me. I think it's Williams and Swift. A running back has run for 80 or more yards in five of the last eight games,

94 more yards in four of the last eight games against the Bears. A running back scored 16 or more PPR fantasy points in seven of the last eight games against the Bears. So it's both teams just really struggle against the run. Well, who's the best running back in the game? William. Agreed.

Who's the second best? Montgomery. Montgomery. Any... Wait, you gotta ask third best. Who's the third best? I think it's Swift. Swift, yeah. Any hesitation on Amonra St. Brown,

who actually has kind of similar stats to Chris Godwin, like very low route depth and really only one game with a lot of yards. He's actually kind of been disappointing other than that Washington game. But any hesitation at all with Amonra St. Brown? No, this is the perfect setup for him. Everybody's gone and, you know, bad defense. And so, you know, this should be a game where he's back to being a target hog. And if you're buying into Jared Goff having a big game,

there's no way he's having a big game without Amon or St. Brown playing. Right. I feel like he should get some end zone targets. Last week it was the tight ends getting those touchdowns. I feel like St. Brown could easily get those. It's a big game for their family. Oh, yeah. We got the St. Brown matchup.

Yeah, remember it was week one or two. They scored a touchdown within two seconds of each other. It was very cool. Yeah. Dave, you like Jared Goff. Do you like Khalif Raymond at all? He's had some big games, and Josh not likely to play. It seems he's had at least nine PPR points in three of his past four and he's had five catches. When did he have him? He had him in weeks. I don't know. Early October, a couple of games in early October. He's kind of a big play guy, and they're running out of bodies. I think Jamie's point on that is fair,

that they don't have Hawkinson. They're not going to have Reynolds. So how do they stretch the field? I think they use a little bit more of Raymond in that regard, and they've got a multitude of mediocre tight ends that they can just mix and match. Two of them scored last week. So I wonder if they get involved when they're in the red zone.

I think DeAndre Swift gets involved in the passing game more this week. He looked good when he played. He just didn't play that much. Only 25% of the snaps in the first half. Only two snaps in the second half. I think he gets a little bit more work. I kind of like him as a borderline number two running back in full PPR. I think he matters.

I think St. Brown gets a ton. And then I'm not starting any of the other guys, including Raymond, unless I'm desperate. But one of those guys will score too. For the Bears, Jamie, who are the quarterbacks you're starting ahead of Justin Fields? Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts and Tua if Josh Allen plays Fields or Allen

I haven't ranked right now with Josh Allen playing he's behind those guys he's right behind Fields hold on hold on if Josh Allen's arm was okay he'd be ahead of Fields right if his arm was okay but his arm was not okay correct I'm just saying if it were

yeah me too Montgomery is an RB2 if his arm was okay, but his arm is not okay. Correct. I'm just saying, if it were, you would. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, me too. Montgomery is an RB2, even in this great matchup. He gets about 14 to 15 carries. And at least 15 touches, three straight games. There have been four games this year where the Lions have allowed multiple running backs to score double-digit PPR fantasy points.

The Eagles, Commanders, Vikings, and Cowboys. So it gives you a little bit of hope for Khalil Herbert. But basically, he needs to have a big play to have a good game. Otherwise, there's a very low floor for Herbert. All right, Darnell Moon. So Claypool didn't play much. He only ran 16 routes, I think, last week. So that's just something to keep in mind.

But it's encouraging that he got six targets on 16 routes. That is actually pretty encouraging. And, last week. That's just something to keep in mind. It's encouraging they got six targets on 16 routes. That is actually pretty encouraging. He had a drop, too, so he's right back in his Steelers form. Mooney. I'm going to give you running backs. Mooney or Gibson? Gibson. Mooney.

Mooney or Connor? Mooney. That's closer. You like Connor over Giffen? Yeah, I do. I think I have Mooney higher than both those guys. Mooney or a running back in this game? In this very game.

I'd go Jamal. I would go Jamal. I would go Jamal. I would go Montgomery, and I would go Swift for upside over Mooney. Since the Bears' mini-buy, this is their last three games, Mooney's target share has been 27%, 11.7 yards per catch.

Target share for this team is such a joke, though. They're starting to throw a lot more than they did in the first game. A little more. 28 times was a season high. Target share in these situations is so stupid. I know. They're starting to throw a lot more than they did in the first game. 28 times was a season high. Target share in these situations is so stupid. I know. But two red zone targets.

It is what it is. Two red zone targets. Three end zone targets. 30% of his catches have been explosive plays. I like the thing that they did last week, though. So, first game with Claypool and 28 attempts and it was 18 of those went to Mooney, Komet, and Claypool.

Yeah, makes sense. Was that a third, a third, and a third? I mean, I know they at least all had six. I don't know if there was one that had seven and one that had four. I'm checking right now. Mooney had eight. So eight, six, and Claypool had six, like you said. It's pretty good.

Starting to get a little concentrated. 20-inch targets between the three. All right, Cole Komet. Let's pretty good. Starting to get a little concentrated. 20-inch targets between the three. All right, Cole Komet. Let's finish up on Cole Komet. You guys have him as a borderline start. Heath is lower on him. You'd start Dulcich over him. You would start still Otten over Komet?

I would start Otten over Komet in PPR. I would start Komet over Otten in non-PPR. He's a touchdown guy now. If Cameron Bray doesn't play, then it's easily Otten in any format. Gerald Everett or Komet? Everett. Everett in PPR, I would start

Komet in non-PPR. It's funny because his three touchdowns the last two weeks, more than Everett has all season. How about Robert Tunyon or Komet? Komet. All right. We're going to take a break. When we come back,

Dallas is at Green Bay. What is that? It's the start of the week or the game of the week. Game of the week for Dallas Green Bay? We need a start of the week. No, no, no. I was just saying it

because we just got done talking about it. Okay. All right. Game of the week is over. Dallas at Green Bay is next. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Here is your Green Bay stinks slash your stat of the game. The Packers have lost five in a row.

They have not scored more than 22 points in any of those games. And Green Bay sees the fewest pass attempts per game in the NFL. And that, I think, is why Heath is so concerned about Dak Prescott. He doesn't throw much, and he's facing a team that is extremely slow-paced, doesn't score, sees the fewest pass attempts per game in the NFL. You guys like Dak more than Heath does. You have him in, like, top seven, I think.

Jamie, thoughts on Dak Prescott? I think you'll get 27 to 30 pass attempts again. Not going to be much more than that unless this game gets sideways, but it's hard to expect that to happen with how the Packers' offenses look. But I think you're still looking at the Cowboys. I'm viewing it as they're trying to get Dak Prescott back to being a top-tier quarterback.

From the standpoint of to win in the playoffs, he's going to have to be probably in some situations where he's throwing and throwing a lot, depending on who they face and how far they go. So I think they need to get him in a little bit more of a rhythm. Is enough of a rhythm 21 of 27 like we saw against the Bears? Maybe. But he also was efficient in that matchup. I don't think he's going to necessarily be much better than 250 and two

because, again, the lack of volume. So that's kind of why he's in the range where he is. And I don't think Heath has him that far from that. But I know Heath is sort of looking at the quarterback position this week as being bad across the board, as 20 to 22 points being kind of a top six or seven guy, which is why he has Groppler where he does. So, you know, can he get that third touchdown like he got against Chicago where he got 34 yards rushing and ran one in?

That's going to be, I think, the difference between making him a potential top five quarterback and then a back end top 10 guy I don't see him falling completely on his face like he did in his first game back against Detroit um but other side of it is without Zeke there do they give the entire backfield 30 carries they're going to max out Tony Pollard probably about 16 I think that's where they want want him to live. So, with the other guys there, are they going to ramp it up enough and run the ball enough? Remember, they've got a defensive score against the Bears.

It takes away a couple pass attempts, too. You know, from a drive. So, you know, he might have been at 30. I think you just cap it at 30 and see what he does in terms of pass attempts for that. Yeah, 16 carries, by the way, would be a career high for Pollard. He's never had more than 14, and if he has 16 carries, if Tony Pollard has 16 carries, he will be a top blank running back this week.

Seven, six. I mean, it's hard to say those two more carries are going to be dramatic. If he has 14 carries, he doesn't usually get 14 carries. But he did the one game without Zeke. Right. I'm just saying he doesn't need that many carries against this run defense to be amazing. Amazing.

He's so good. Yeah, I just, okay. I just wanted to throw that out there. But he's not going to have a 20-carry game. You should know that. That'd be a surprise for Tony Pollard based on the way their running backs coach just talked about him.

Jamie, did you mention the Packers defense right now in the state of Green Bay's D? I mean, you were listening, so no, I didn't. So Rashawn Gary's out. That's a big part of their pass rush, but he's also a big contributor to their run defense. And so, you know, Eric Stokes is also out. That could help as well, or he banged up

in their secondary, so we'll see. He should be out. I actually haven't seen anything on him. He was in a walking after last week's game, but yeah, I would anticipate him not playing. Yeah, and that's a big loss for them. He did not practice Wednesday. I didn't see a Thursday practice report on. Starting cornerback, Eric Stokes.

Okay, so Dave, this game, by the way, just for everybody who knows in the rankings, Dave and Jamie have Dak Prescott ahead of Kyler, ahead of Cousins. Ahead of everybody except for Mahomes, Hertz, Tua, Fields, and Geno. Now, that's me. I don't know about Jamie. Jamie has Brady ahead of Geno, but not ahead of...

No, sorry. Jamie has Prescott ahead of Geno, but not ahead of Brady. Yeah, there's more upside for Brady this week if he hits. All right, so no streamers over Dak for Dave and Jamie. Heath would disagree. This game is a headache, Dave, because we don't know about Aaron Jones and Ezekiel Elliott. Correct.

It's not a headache if you have Tony Pollard. Well, but it could be if Zeke plays. I'm starting him anyway. I would too. The only league I have him in, I don't really have another good option, but I still think he could have a good game here. I would be very surprised if Zeke plays, based on what he said.

Yeah. Or he could play and only play 25% of the snaps, and they do one of those easing him in type things. That might actually be the smartest thing for Dallas to do. Not that Dallas does the smartest things with their football team, but that could be a very intelligent play for them. Okay, so what about the Packers

guys? What if Aaron Jones doesn't play? How much faith would you have in A.J. Dillon, who's having a pretty crummy year? He's been crummy, but he would see 15 touches and would catapult into the top 24 running back for sure.

He'd be better than Najee. He'd be better than Conner. He'd be better than Gibson in non-PPR. He'd be better than... Yeah, that's a tough one. Similar range for Montgomery. So right around 20. Okay.

Because there'd be a time where you would say, oh, he'd be top 10, but he's just not producing. No, and this run defense is good. Wide receivers. The whole defense is great. Is it just Lamb and Lazard? Yeah. Yeah.

If I could nitpick, I think the Cowboys' run defense is their weakness. It's not really. For sure, by comparison. Yeah, right. It seems kind of like an average run defense. How much faith do you have in Lamb and Lazard? Because Lamb has like seven targets in each of his last two games, and he's doing a lot with them.

And then there's Lazard going up against a tough matchup. He's not lived up to the expectations of being a top five or six receiver Lamb has because the volume has not been there. And obviously Dak missing all that time didn't help. But I still think you're starting him. He's a number two receiver. And Lazard is the same thing. At some point, Lazard's not going to score. And then you've got to just worry that is his numbers overall enough

to carry him? I think it's worth trusting. But this is the only guy Aaron Rodgers can rely on at this point. And so it could be garbage time. It could be, you know, score early and, and, and keeps him in the game.

He's, he's had success against a pretty good defense already this season. So I'm not getting away from Alan's art. Yep. 76 yards and a touchdown against the jets, 116 yards against the Patriots. And I'm not sure about the Cowboys past defense right now, because they lost that starting cornerback.

Sorry, what was his name? Jordan, his name. Yeah. Uh, the Detroit game. Lewis. Yeah, a couple weeks ago they lost him, and they were awful against the Bears.

And the week before that, I think they were a little shaky too. Oh, no, that was... That was the game that got hurt against Detroit. Oh, yeah, they were awful against the Bears, and they, you know, Klee Freeman at 75, I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something. The thing about the Cowboys is,

and this is where they get in trouble sometimes, it's what makes them a great player also, is when Javon Diggs gambles. And so if he gambles and he misses, you know, there's a lot of busts in their secondary. And so that's where, you know, you hope Lazard can make a player too. You know, I'm going to rescind what I said.

It was a bad game against the Bears. That's pretty much all it was. They obviously are a terrific defense. Robert Tunyon or Cole Komet? You already asked us that. I did ask. You said Komet, right? Yeah. We committed to Komet. Committed. All right, Tunyon.

This stinks, typically. One game with more than 37 yards. Start the Cowboys DST. Arizona's at the Rams. Your stat of the game. Can you imagine we just went through a whole Cowboys-Packers game and didn't even discuss Aaron Rodgers. Oh my god. I should have discussed Aaron Rodgers. I'm sorry. There's nothing the Rams. Your stat of the game. Can you imagine? We just went through a whole Cowboys-Packers game and didn't even discuss Aaron Rodgers. Oh, my God.

I should have discussed Aaron Rodgers. I'm sorry. There's nothing to discuss. You're just not starting. By the way, those two teams, Cowboys and Packers, have the best pass rush, best pressure rates in football. Not anymore. We'll see with the Packers now.

Not anymore. Arizona at the Rams. Okay. The Cardinals give up the second most fantasy points to tight ends. 60 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in seven of nine games. Does it matter for Tyler Higby? No. He played well enough against them the first time around.

You know, something's got to change with his Rams offense and it makes a lot of sense to get him going a little bit because it's a safety valve. Certainly, I think if John Walford plays, it's probably a little bit of a better option for him because, you know, Stafford may challenge down the field a little bit more, especially if the secondary is that beat up the Cardinals. But it's such a good matchup. You know, I had an interesting situation in one of our leagues where it seems like there's a little bit of a glitch that I put in for. And it's funny because it involves Thomas Schaefer. It's our salary cap league so I

ran out of fab budget because I'm just scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to see if I can get back in the playoff hunt and I put in for commit for a dollar bid but my fab expired prior to getting to commit so like the two moves that I previously made so because I put in for a dollar bid for commit it negated it and said I could not pick him up instead of just getting for a zero dollar bid. The next day, Schaefer went in and picked him up as a free agent. So my only tight end and compared to the guys on waivers is Higby. And so it's a weird situation. Like you would think like I have zero bit, zero dollars, right? She just give it to me for a zero dollar bid, but it just didn't do that. So I would have preferred Kemet over Higby, but I just look at the matchup and I'll take my chances.

You know, just hope that Higby gets back on track a little bit. And if he was playing anybody else, no way. But the fact that the Cardinals are so bad against tight ends, it's just absolutely, like, look what they just did for Noah Fant. They just saw Noah Fant to go for seven catches and 96 yards. That's amazing. So Higby is such an easy option to work into this game and get Stafford or Walford or Adam

Azar, easy targets and easy chances. Whoever the quarterback may be there. I hope he comes through. If we expect Kyler Murray to play, you guys don't have him ranked, I think, as you normally would. He has terrible history against the Rams and potentially a hamstring injury which would slow him down in theory, Dave.

How do you feel about Kyler Murray? I don't like it when he's hurt. We've seen it before that when he plays with an injury, which would slow him down in theory, Dave. So how do you feel about Kyler Murray? I don't like it when he's hurt. We've seen it before that when he plays with an injury, he's nowhere near as effective. And it happens to be against the LA Rams, who are pretty good defensively. And you already mentioned the offensive line issues. So he's not going to have time to throw. And when he moves, he might not be quite as nimble as he's been before.

So if he's relying on a ball out quick mentality this week, it's going to be an inefficient game. Doesn't have a great track record of getting a lot of touchdowns. I think he can get you one. And it might, unless like there's a fluky play, something like that, a missed tackle, then it's going to be more than one. But I have a hard time trusting him.

I'm starting Jared Goff over Kyler Murray this week. Garoppolo? I believe I have Gar starting Jared Goff over Kyler Murray this week. Garoppolo? I believe I have Garoppolo ranked ahead of Kyler. Russ? I'm not there with Russ. And I certainly will have a harder time being there with Russ if Jeffrey Simmons is out.

Although maybe he has an efficient game. I don't know. I just have a tough time with russell wilson jamie the arizona running backs obviously i don't know benjamin but james connor role-wise there's a lot to like about connor production-wise there is not um how do you feel about him this week would not be starting james connor if you can i mean one touchdown on the season you know granted he missed three games with a rib injury, but he just not run well. Like you mentioned, no Rodney Hudson, no Justin Pugh, no Will Hernandez.

You know, the interior of the offensive line is just a disaster potentially. So I don't know. I mean, Connor will hopefully get five catches again. Will he do anything with it? That's hard to say. He just hasn't done much with it to begin with. So non-PPR, I think it's an easy fade. Half PPR, maybe.

Full PPR, he's a borderline starter. But give me Antonio Gibson by a mile over him. Give me Montgomery over him. Give me... I'll still play Najee over him and Fournette over him. I just can't trust it. Okay. DeAndre Hopkins, we talked about earlier.

He's a must-start if Kyler plays. He's borderline number one receiver if Kyler doesn't play. So you're going to start DeAndre Hopkins. Rondale Moore. Start or sit Rondale Moore, Dave? I even like him better if Kyler plays and isn't 100% and isn't going to run and, like I suggested, gets the ball out quickly because that's a good short area target.

We've seen it from him for two years now where he's not running that far downfield. Last year, he was barely running that far downfield. This year, at least, he's running a little bit more. Yeah, flex. Definitely a good flex in PPR. Yeah, the Rams are 26. Last time these two teams met, he didn't play.

And Greg Dorch got 10 targets in this game. So, you know, this is an opportunity and an area to exploit for this Rams defense. Yeah, the Rams are 22nd against wide receivers. They've gotten better. They were really bad in are 22nd against wide receivers. They've gotten better. They were really bad in week one against the Bills. They've gotten better throughout the year, but they're not the worst.

And then Zach Ertz. This Rams team, they've allowed a tight end to score a touchdown in two straight games. That's only three touchdowns in their last 19 games. So it's rare. We've talked about a lot of, you know, Dulcich,

Dulcich, commit, Otten. How many of them are ahead of Earths? For me, one Dulcich. Yeah, just Dulcich.

But I, I, I don't think this is a great situation. Now, the flip side of that is Cole McCoy obviously loves Zach Ertz. Um, in, in the game they played together last year,

I think it was one. Uh, it was against Seattle. We know they're bad against tight ends. I mean, that was a, almost a historic game for Zach Ertz in the game they played together last year. I think it was one. It was against Seattle. We know they're bad against tight ends. I mean, that was almost a historic game for Zach Ertz. What was it? It was like nine for 88. It was just, you know, he just, I think, 11 targets in that game.

And two touchdowns. It was fantastic. But again, Seattle, Ertz usually beats up on Seattle. Most tight ends beat up on Seattle. So just keep that in mind. But I do think that, you know, McCoy won't be bad for Ertz usually beats up on Seattle. Most tight ends beat up on Seattle. So just keep that in mind. But I do think that, you know, McCoy won't be bad for Ertz as much so as maybe Kyler is, knowing that he's so in love with Hopkins

and seemingly falling in love with Rondell Moore. Yeah, a good stat for Ertz is that he has the third most targets in the NFL from the 10-yard line or closer. Only Justin Jefferson and Allen Robinson have more. And in the last three games with DeAndre Hopkins back, he still has three targets from that range, 10 yards out or closer. And that's second in the NFL behind Austin Eckler.

So yes, the targets have definitely come down, but he's still an end zone option for Kyler. On the Rams side of the ball, if Stafford plays, start or sit? Sit. Are all those guys out for the Cardinals? That's a good question to ask. Who has been ruled out?

I don't know on Murphy. I would put Stafford in the same range as Jared Goff this week. Low end number one guy. You're you're Jared Goff range since I'm anointing him the next Phil Sims. I can't trust him. I don't trust that offensive line. I just worry about turnovers with Stafford. I'd rather start Russell Wilson.

You go back to that game you referenced all the time, Adam. He should have had a huge game against the Cardinals. He really was great against them. If Cup catches that touchdown, it's 19 of 25 for almost 300 yards and a score at the Cardinals. We're not starting a Rams running back. We're not starting anyone other than Cooper Cup.

We already talked about Tyler Higbee. Which DST do you prefer? Who's playing quarterback? Walford and Kyler. If it's Walford and Kyler, I would go Cardinals over Rams. If it's Stafford and Kyler, I would go Rams over Cardinals. Cardinals are 2,700 on DraftKings. What if it's Walford and

Easy Start? What if it's Walford and McCoy? I think the Steelers are 2,800. I would much prefer the Steelers. Whatever. I'm saving the $100. Houston at the Giants. Stat of the game. These two teams are both top five and fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. Don't know that.

Well, then I don't really get away from all these guys. I don't buy it with the Giants. I might buy it more with the with the Texans. But I mean, McKinney's now, too. So exactly. That's a huge deal. But yeah, I don't know, because we know we're starting the running backs. We know we're sitting Mills. The fact that Jones is 82% roster tells me that people are

considering starting him. Would you guys start Daniel Jones? If you were to tell me right now he's going to run, because when he's run he's been great. So in the three games that he has, great, great for him. In the three games where he has 67 or more yards on the ground,

he's over 20 fantasy points per game. But he's only done that three times. So, you know, it's a matter of why they got away from that in Seattle. I have no idea. You know, I don't know if it was by design or, you know, Seattle just kept him in his pocket. I think Seattle did a great job. Seattle seemed against it.

So if the Texans do something similar and he doesn't get out of the pocket and make plays with his legs, then he's screwed. He's not helping you with his arm. But if he runs, then you'll be very pleased that you started. Which of these teams is coming off of a bye? One's

off a bye, one's off a mini bye. They're both off long weeks. Which is the team that has the stud running back that everybody's back in love with now? Both of them. They both do. Come on, the one that's both of them. They both do. Well, but come on the one that's really studly. They both do.

And which team is number one in rushing yards allowed per game. Yeah, they're both pretty close. I get it. But where are you going with this? So you're saying sit Daniel. I'm saying the giants are going to load up and ride Saquon Barkley to a victory.

And it's going to make Daniel Jones numbers look small. Yeah. I think Saquon has a monster game, duh. And I just, I don't want to trust Daniel Jones very much. That is part of the reason why the Texans are good against wide receivers and quarterbacks is they just get run on all the time. Okay. So any, any wide receivers that you're interested in and who's your highest rank receiver in this game?

For me, it's Slayton. Not that interested in him. He's a low-end number three wide receiver at the best. I would not be surprised if Cooks has a big game, but I can't trust it. So I would trust Cooks over Slayton. I would start Brandon Cooks over Kalief Raymond, Allen Robinson,

Alec Pierce, uh, Jawan Jennings. Yes. Giants. That's how I feel about Brandon. You have ranked as a starter. This is a great matchup.

That is it for today's show. All right. We'll talk to you on the mailbag for Dave and Jamie and Zach. I'm Adam. See you later, everybody.