Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC)! Brady? Zeke? Metcalf? (12/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 24, 2021

Welcome back, A.J. Brown! We'll recap the 49ers-Titans with a focus on Brown's big game and the RBs for each team. Then we'll go over all of the news and notes (10:30). There is a lot! ... One Questio...n for Each Game (22:30)! Do we trust Dak Prescott and Tom Brady? Do Odell Beckham and Van Jefferson bounce back? We also have the Startometer (34:10) for Lions-Falcons, Giants-Eagles and Bucs-Panthers ... Start or Sit for Colts-Cardinals (39:00), Browns-Packers (45:30), Bears-Seahawks (50:00), Rams-Vikings (59:00), Football Team-Cowboys (1:06:00), Lions-Falcons (1:14:35), Bucs-Panthers (1:18:40) and Giants-Eagles (1:23:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. Tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. What a wonderful time of year. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football today. It is Christmas Eve. What's going on? Oh man, I'm so cheery today, guys. Are you feeling it? You in the holiday spirit? I'm in the A.J. Brown spirit. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:01:45 He's the best kind of Santa Claus. That was outstanding. A.J. Brown coming through with a huge game. See the final line here. 11 catches, 145 yards, and a touchdown. Today on the show, we'll talk about that game. That's not the best part. What's the best part?
Starting point is 00:02:01 The targets are the best part. Yeah. I'm good with the catches and yards and touchdowns. Just saying. He had over 50% of the targets this game. That's quite a share. Today we got Indianapolis at Arizona, Cleveland at Green Bay,
Starting point is 00:02:17 Chicago at Seattle, the Rams in Minnesota with Alexander Madison in the spotlight. Oh, I'm sorry. What happened? What I said yesterday. I don't remember what you said i said about dropping alexander madison because what happens if dalgona gets covid i said that on the air yeah literally i'm sorry i spoke into existence i apologize uh washington dallas detroit atlanta the giants eagles and the and Panthers. We'll talk about are we good with Tom Brady, Saquon Barkley,
Starting point is 00:02:47 Miles Sanders. We really probably might be. Really probably might be. That's good stuff. Might be sleeping on the Eagles backfield, guys, just to keep an eye on it because Boston Scott, Jordan Howard are widely available, and Miles Sanders has been missing practice. But all of the news and notes that you need.
Starting point is 00:03:02 But we'll start with Tennessee 20 and San Francisco 17. After you tell me this, if you could just watch one Christmas movie, just one, what's it going to be? I mean, you know what we're going to say. Exactly what we're going to say. I have a different answer. I think I've seen it too many times. Seen what too many times?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Christmas Vacation. That's not the answer. No. Oh, no, don't say Die Hard. Come on. That's so lame. I was going to say Die Hard 2. Oh, that's even labor.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Which Christmas movie would I watch multiple times? Rocky IV. Stop. Get a real one. I mean, the fight is on Christmas. I think since you guys aren't giving real answers, I think I'm going to go with Just Friends. I think right now, it's not my favorite,
Starting point is 00:03:50 but I haven't seen it a million times like all the others. So I think I'm going to take Just Friends. Very good movie. Of all the Christmas movies, that's the one? Have you seen it, Dave? No. Oh, it's really good. Oh, it's very funny.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's not one of the classics. It actually has become a modern classic. It's really, really funny. You should watch it. All right, maybe I'll check it out. Yeah. All right, you guys can think about your answer. It's easy.
Starting point is 00:04:13 What did you say, James? Home Alone. Home Alone's a great one. I like Christmas Vacation. Yeah, it's hard to beat. But Die Hard's easily number one. Sure. Eye roll. All right, Tennessee 20. We're going to Die Hard is easily number one. Sure. Eye roll.
Starting point is 00:04:26 All right, Tennessee 20. We're going to do top five list on the show today, on the mailbag show. I told Schneier top five Christmas movies, but that's just not his thing. So it's something else. I can't remember, but we'll talk Christmas on the mailbag show. All right, Tennessee 20 and San Francisco 17. So, you know, it was an interesting game in the sense that everyone but Kittle
Starting point is 00:04:48 at least got something. I mean, Foreman saved his bacon with a touchdown and Wilson had the touchdown, but Dave Kittle, yeah, bad game for him. I don't know if there's much else to say. It happens sometimes. He had three targets on the first two drives of the game.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It looked like he was going to be just as involved and just as much of that huggy bear for Jimmy Garoppolo as he had been the past three weeks. And then after the interception in the end zone, he was done. There was literally no targets for George Kittle the rest of the game. And he was double covered a lot. The broadcast showed it. And so it turned into a Debo night because of it,
Starting point is 00:05:26 but just absolutely crazy that they weren't scheming stuff up for Kittle, that they weren't using him. They didn't try again in the red zone to Kittle. It was very frustrating. The Kittle play in the end zone changed the game. Yes. Because if they were touched on that drive, the game's probably over, the way that Tennessee looked in the first half.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I think it was the second Garoppolo interception that changed the game. They get points on that drive. It's a totally different ballgame. How about the use check play? This was a horrible game for Garoppolo. Yeah, but that goes both ways. The Titans should have got a pass interference call on the first
Starting point is 00:06:00 downfield throw to A.J. Brown. Do we have any major takeaways from this game? Anything to look at going forward? AJ Brown's back. That's a great takeaway. Could be someone who helps you crush it in the next two weeks. Obviously, this last week he did. I think I would be running the other direction of Jeff Wilson
Starting point is 00:06:20 if he wasn't playing Houston next week. If he's the guy, because they think Elijah Mitchell's going to be back. That's the other thing. Like, if Elijah Mitchell's back, then no question, Elijah Mitchell's going to be the guy. But if Mitchell is out next week, then I think Wilson goes, I think he'll be even higher in our rankings against Houston. Might be a top 15 running back, because that defense is so bad.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But he didn't look great. Foreman didn't have it going on. He had one long run that was called back by a penalty. And I think the Titans knew it, and they weren't using him much in the fourth quarter. It was a lot of Jeremy McNichols and not as much of Foreman and even less of Dontrell Hilliard. But it was an ugly three-way split where they were playing the hot hand. And they weren't trying to force it with Foreman. The fact that Foreman scored is like by the grace of God that
Starting point is 00:07:05 he got the opportunity to even get in there because the play before he was not on the field for a short yardage play. So neither running back in this game was particularly good. And the only reason why we'd start one of them moving forward is because of the matchup. And these are, I think now we can say, these are two great run defenses. And Zach Cunningham, IDP by the way, Zach Cunningham added to the Titans only helps. I think last thing here is Iyuk. Jamie, I felt like he got a little lucky.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I think Debo was off the field when he caught his touchdown, right? I mean, Debo was a little shaken up. He was, yeah. But I mean, that's part of why he was open, too, is that I think the Titans were kind of in a little bit of a scramble defense at that point. It was, yeah. First off, he got off to a good start on the first drive.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Another big play in the game was the fourth and sixth call that Garoppolo missed Ayuk. And if you want to go back and watch, in the background of the play, Kyle Shanahan's reaction um when they missed it and the broadcast brought up um that iuk might have cut off his route a little too short which is where garoppolo thought he was throwing uh the other part of it obviously is that garoppolo missed him wide open and so this is why they drafted trey lance uh but in any event bad play and uh cost iuk a few yards yeah and i just think that you have to look at game script
Starting point is 00:08:24 with iuk. He just doesn't get a lot of targets unless they're losing and throwing a lot and giving up points. Is that going to be the case next week against Houston? Probably not. He had half of his targets and catches on the first two drives of the game too. I thought he was setting up to have a huge game. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah. All right. I'm always thinking about what am i going to bring up on the show and i'll just say that i at one point in the first quarter i was going to bring up man what are trey lance dynasty managers thinking right now because garoppolo is really grooving and then i think you know you see it's the opposite now let's not take away what he's been the last eight games or so he's's been terrific, but he can struggle sometimes. It's a good defense.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's a short week on the road. I mean, you know, next week he'll come out and light up the Texans if they allow him to. Okay. We've got some things to promote. We've got a mailbag coming up. You can see that Friday afternoon. If you're not around on Christmas,
Starting point is 00:09:19 you can see that Friday afternoon on YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today. We also have CBS Sports HQ on Sunday, 10 a.m. Eastern. Make sure you check it out, CBS Sports HQ, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern on Sunday to help you set your lineup. Now, guys, I was wondering if you would indulge me. I wrote a little Christmas poem for our fantasy football managers. And I'm feeling very vulnerable, so even if you don't like it, just pretend. I was about to walk out of the room.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It's a new concept. It's called Twas the Day Before Christmas. Totally different than the other thing you know about. I'm glad that the first two-thirds of the start of this podcast is all about Christmas and one-third was about football. Thank you for setting this up in a good way, Dave. Okay, here we go. This is actually about
Starting point is 00:10:04 football. Twas the day this up in a good way, Dave. Okay, here we go. This is actually about football. Oh, good. Twas the day before Christmas and all through my league, fantasy managers wrestled with waiver wire fatigue. I need a tight end and RB2 would be great, but all that I see are Burkhead and Brait. I'm setting my lineups and sitting my homes while adding Gabe Davis and writing these poems.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I can't trust Tom Brady after last week's showing. My starters are shrinking. My IR is growing. I've got Chubb and Kamara. My team's trending up, but my opponent has Adams and Taylor and Kupp. I'm facing Herbert, the secondary slayer. Let's see if I can find some better players. I'll scour the wire for free agents to add and finally set a lineup that isn't half bad.
Starting point is 00:10:39 When what to my wondering eyes should appear? DJ Moore, a game time decision. Oh, dear. Hey, Austin Eckler, are you in? Are you out? I need you on Sunday for my semifinal bout. My lineup with you in it would make my opponent quite jelly, but without you, it would look like it's Joshua Kelly.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So tomorrow, we'll rush to the tree for our gifts and watch some TV as Baker Mayfield throws picks. The Browns and the Packers, the Colts and the Cards. Am I really starting Alan Lazard? A week 16 win would be the best gift of all Colts and the Cards. Am I really starting Alan Lazard? A week 16 win would be the best gift of all. On to the finals of fantasy football. I hope you're victorious.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I hope your team doesn't suck. Merry Christmas to all and to all good luck. Thank you. All right. Can you write Dave a poem for the next Miller Lite commercial too? I can try. I can try. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:29 News and notes. They have to move us into town and all through the house. Dalvin Cook is out. So, you know, one of our emailers brought up a good point. Sometimes, I wish I had a more complete list of this. Sometimes players coming off the COVID list really struggle. Rogers comes to mind big time. Beckham, I don't know if that was COVID related or not, but he got
Starting point is 00:11:50 three targets, I think. But Madison is coming off the COVID list, and he's also facing a great Rams run defense, something like three yards per carry in their last seven games. I don't remember the stat exactly, to running backs. Are we as in on Madison as we would be ordinarily?
Starting point is 00:12:08 I think you have to be. Obviously, there's risk, like you said. There's a good defense, like you said. I think you've been hearing just a lot of nice things about Noagnew and the things he's been doing for their team, clearly on special teams, but they're kind of excited, I think, to see what he has to offer. So there may be a little bit more of a split than we're used to seeing whenever Cook is not there, but I mean, I'll buy into the track record of
Starting point is 00:12:33 what Alexander Madison has been and what they've done with him when there hasn't been Dalvin Cook there. So huge opportunity. Yeah. Tough matchup, but I'm treating him the same way I've treated him whenever Cook hasn't been there, which is basically like Dalvin Cook. So, must start running back. Okay. Amari Cooper wants more red zone targets. Time for the squeaky crickets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Let's go, Amari Cooper. He scored last time he faced them. He has a great track record against Washington, too. 13 or more PPR points in five straight games against them. So, should have another big performance as well. And thanks to you a few weeks ago, Jamie, I know now how to look that up very easily. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:11 The last five function on the player page. Lamar Jackson mispracticed, so right now we are not ranking him. Justin Fields mispracticed with an ankle injury. Are you guys concerned that Justin Fields may not play? Yes. Yeah. Would that be good or bad for Darnell Mooney if it's Dalton? Probably better from a target standpoint.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I think the matchup's tough either way. The matchup's tough either way? Sure. But I think it's a tough matchup either way. Cam Akers was designated to return. Dave, what do we make of this? Should we pick up Cam Akers? I mean, we can probably stash him on IR,
Starting point is 00:13:49 but do you think he makes a contribution? If you have the IR spot and it won't hurt to pick up Akers, go ahead and do it. But I'd be surprised. Five months removed from an Achilles surgery, that he's going to be himself again, that he's going to have a real role again, it would just be a shock. I'm not expecting it. Yeah, this I think is more a playoff move for them. Yeah. Taysom Hill, Trevor Simeon on the COVID list. Backup offensive tackle
Starting point is 00:14:19 Jordan Mills is on the COVID list. He's been a starter lately because their two tackles have been out. And safety Malcolm Jenkins on the reserve COVID list. He's been a starter lately because their two tackles have been out. And safety Malcolm Jenkins on the reserve COVID list. So it looks like Ian Book is going to start for the Saints. Are the Dolphins your number one DST this week? Yep. Number two.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Who's number one? Who's number one? Who's that, Philly? Eagles. Yeah. Yes, I did get an email this morning. Eagles or Dolphins DST? I said, that's probably the number one and two.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So take your pick. That's number one and two. So take your pick. That's number one and two. Hard to have a... Dave, your audio is cutting out a little bit. I don't know if there's anything we can do about that. I can see what I can do about it. All right. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:14:57 DeAndre Swift was limited in practice. Are you guys ranking DeAndre Swift yet? Yeah, he's a top 20 running back. I'm a little concerned about what the split will be between him and Craig Reynolds and Jamal Williams. But the matchup's great. So as long as he's 100% healthy, I think he's easily the best one.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's just a matter of who you're comparing him to. And we will do that later. Adam Thielen was limited. And are you ranking Adam Thielen? Not yet. No. And you've got to be a little concerned about him coming back a little too soon from the high ankle sprain. Ramondre Stevenson mispracticed again with the illness. Damian Harris was limited. So if they both play, I think, you know, it's not super appealing. But Dave, if Harris plays and Stevenson is out against the good run defense, I don't think Starla Tulale has been practicing, though,
Starting point is 00:15:51 which is a big deal for the Bills. You know, where would you rank Damian Harris? Would you rank him ahead of, let's say, DeAndre Swift? Dave walked away, so I'll answer that one for him. Would I rank Damian Harris ahead of DeAndre Swift in non-PPR? Yes. In PPR, no. Half PPR? Damien Harris ahead of DeAndre Swift in non-PPR? Yes. In PPR, no. Half PPR? Damien Harris.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Alright. Tyler Lockett and Alex Collins are back. Cleveland center JC Tretter's on the reserve COVID list. Alright. James I'm going to fly through it here. James Connor is confident he will play on Saturday. We'll give you the scenarios if he's in and he's out when we look at that game later. Miles Sanders, Jamie, he missed practice.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So, yeah, how seriously should we be taking this here? What an opportunity that Howard and Scott, and Scott scores every time he plays the Giants, would have. It's a great call on Scott, yeah. I think Sanders has to be out for Scott to be involved. But it's certainly something to keep on your radar going into the weekend. It's so tough to gauge because of the Tuesday game. I would imagine that they're making sure he's 100% healthy and resting him because of that.
Starting point is 00:16:50 But it could be that he's actually legitimately hurt because he didn't finish the game against Washington on Tuesday. So it's just something to keep in mind. But yeah, if Jordan Howard is available and you have an open roster spot, pick him up now. Okay, Dave, I'll throw it to you. Are you there? I'm here it to you. You there? I'm here. Can you hear me? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:07 So Jordan Howard, I just asked you, DeAndre, well, I asked Jamie. Jamie answered as you had left. DeAndre Swift, if he plays versus Damian Harris, if Stevenson were out. Now, how about Jordan Howard if Miles Sanders were out? How would he rank against those two players? I think he'd be behind them both. I like Swift. I love the matchup against Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:17:33 That run defense has really started to take a nosedive. They've allowed 90 total yards to a running back in six of their last eight games. And I think Swift will be the main running back for Detroit. If there's news out there about him being limited, that would change things. But Howard's going to split and I know that he could be the primary back for Philadelphia, but that still might be 55%
Starting point is 00:17:54 of the snaps. So I'd be more encouraged by Harris without Stevenson than I would be Howard without Sanders. And if Sanders were out, you guys would have Howard ahead of Boston Scott or would you give that Giants bump to Boston Scott? That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Howard ahead. Howard ahead. Okay. Agreed. All right. Let's see. We've got David Johnson missing practice.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Emmanuel Sanders practicing. We'll see if he's able to play. Baker Mayfield has not been cleared yet. So he's got one day now. He's playing tomorrow. Jarvis Landry and Jedrick Wills are expected to play this week. Jedrick Wills, their offensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Landry, of course, their wide receiver. Defensively, the Jets have five starters out right now on the reserve COVID list. And the Ravens have nine defensive players. Not all starters, but nine defensive players. Kansas City getting a little bit healthier, activating Chris Jones and cornerback Traverius Ward. Indianapolis center Ryan Kelly is out for personal reasons.
Starting point is 00:18:52 He's a pro bowler. We still expect him to run the ball well. Did you know Kirk Cousins was on the injury report for the first time as a Viking? Wow, ribs? Yep. He's off now, but that was the first time. Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. Chicago defensive tackle Akeem Hicks is on the reserve COVID list. Their best run stuffer, I would say, at Seattle. Washington linebacker
Starting point is 00:19:16 Cole Holcomb on the COVID list. Green Bay activated their best defensive lineman, Kenny Clark. Levante David and Leonard Fournette are on IR.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And two games without Levante David, the Bucs really actually struggled against the run. It was the Eagles game. Not a lot of carries for Sanders, but very efficient. And then a Cleo Herbert had 100 yards without Levante David. And this is also cool. If the Packers and Chiefs get the top seeds in their respective conferences,
Starting point is 00:19:41 it will be the first time that two teams have repeated as conference champs since 1982 and 1983. It's been almost 40 years since we have seen the same conference champs. And I just want to share one more thing on the holidays here. I didn't read this quote a couple of weeks ago, but I meant to. But Rashad Penny talked about his career a few weeks ago as he emerged after that Houston game. And what really got to him early in his career was negativity on social media. He was very interested.
Starting point is 00:20:10 He didn't block it out and it really got to him. And he said, quote, at the end of the day, I'm still human and everybody else who gets hurt and goes on social media and looks their name up and sees what people are saying about them, it can be the worst thing possible and it can tear somebody down.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That's what it did to me a few years ago. but now it's just like you're numb to it. And I would like to tell everybody out there to please not be mean to athletes on social media or anyone. It's just not worth it. You feel good about yourself because you're venting, and you hate Rashad Penny because he got hurt and all that. Come on. Let's grow up and be better.
Starting point is 00:20:45 We don't need to do that. I've got to tell you, I've had an interesting week on Twitter because I tweeted something about football, about fantasy, in regards to when the Chiefs had both their players put on the COVID list. And probably poor choice of using the word we because I was thinking of our audience mostly. But I said the NFL needs to move the Steelers-Chiefs game. We need Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill for Week 16.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And it's been a wave of different fan bases. I've never seen anything like it. Just like, you know, saying I'm stupid and that the NFL didn't do this for other teams. And, you know, so as a Packers fan saying that this didn't happen when they played the Cardinals without Rodgers. I think it was Cardinals without Rodgers or this year. Now, what was the game that Chiefs played? Chiefs that Rodgers Steelers fans, obviously, because that's their opponent. Patriots fans.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But it's been like a wave of different fan bases. So it's like must be making its way around to different places. And it's continuing. Like it wasn't just one day. Like I woke up this morning to about 50 Packers tweets in regards to that. It's amazing just how people think like, you know, you say whatever you want to. And it's fine.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I'm used to it, you know, doing this for, you know, over 15 years. But it's just funny how you know things get taken out of context too like i'm not a chief fan by any i was telling you i was like i was like you wouldn't believe you know take take take two minutes and go down the rabbit hole of that tweet and just look what people have said yeah we can be better we can be better society all right uh yeah beat beat the waiver wire i i didn't really go through this i just looked at the some of the players from the tuesday show this is really we don't have to do it you're going to be facing one other person but uh ricky seals jones maybe if he gets back in the action
Starting point is 00:22:35 and gets his up his snap count up and he's got the eagles next week cole comet against the giants if anybody dropped the patriots facing the bills this week and tough matchup last week take a look at them they have the jaguars, maybe the Saints against Carolina. You just never know who's going to be healthy, who's going to be in. The Seahawks. Seahawks against Detroit next week. You could take a look at them for a little beat the waiver wire. And maybe, I don't know, quarterback was tough. Justin Fields at the Giants was the only one I had.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But I don't even know if that's such a great matchup. All right, guys, let's get to one question for each game. Jared Patterson's another one, just in case Antonio Gibson still injuries problem. Yeah, good call. He has turf, though. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, but I mean, is he going to play through?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Is he going to sit? Because if he sits this week, you want to have him now. All right, Indianapolis at Arizona. If James Conner plays, do you start a Cardinals running back against a very good run defense? Dave? I would be nervous to do so.
Starting point is 00:23:31 There was a 50-50 split pretty much between the two of them last week. And I started the week liking James Conner and then the fact that he's missed more practice with this heel injury. Easy to move him down outside of the top 24 along with Edmonds. They're back-to-back in my rankings as flex guys.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Okay, Cleveland, Green Bay. Jamie, who is this? Well, you got the other side of it, though. What happens if Connor sits? Oh, okay, go ahead. I mean, Edmonds has top 15 upside. Where would you rank him? Would you rank him in the top 15?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Around there, yeah. I'd be lower, but I get it. I just, I do believe in this Colts run defense. I think they're very good. Yeah, no. I'd be lower, but I get it. I do believe in this Colts run defense. I think they're very good. Yeah, no, I agree. But I also believe in one guy on this backfield, I think, has proven to be pretty special. Connor better than Edmonds in that role,
Starting point is 00:24:15 but I think Edmonds is going to have a big opportunity in front of him. Sure. And so many catches for whichever running back, if it were just one guy. All right, so, well, that's our first game, so we'll get into that. Cleveland Green Bay. Jamie, who is the second best wide receiver in this game?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Jarvis Landry. You know, the only thing I wonder about Landry is, you know, he doesn't really make a lot of big plays, and that's what the Packers have been giving up lately, a ton of them. Well, I don't know if he's going to be the best player receiver in this game because we still have the quarterback situation.
Starting point is 00:24:48 So, you know, if it's Baker, then it's Landry. If it's not Baker, you can make a strong case for Lazard unless it's MVS. So there's just, you know, by the time people are listening to this, it could be dramatically different for both these teams. So right now, I would still take Landry. If I had to start somebody from this game, I would start Landry second. Jair Alexander, not expected to play. Go could be dramatically different for both these teams. So right now, I would still take Landry. If I had to start somebody from this game, I would start Landry second. Jair Alexander is not expected to play. Go ahead, Dave.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I would say that the second best receiver in this game is on the Packers. If MVS plays, then it's him. If he doesn't play, it's Lazard. Is that assuming Baker's out? Yeah. I don't care if Baker plays or not. I would still take lazard over
Starting point is 00:25:25 jarvis landry landry's the floor play he's 10 or 11 ppr points but i i think that this is a big big game for the packers overall with the browns playing on tuesday and then on saturday they got squeezed there are uh two monday monday to saturday sorry Two deep sleepers if you're looking at it. How the Packers might replace MVS. If they don't move Lazard back outside fully then I think Equinami of St. Brown's in play. He's coming
Starting point is 00:25:55 back from being on the concussion protocol. If they do move Lazard outside then your boy becomes interesting at him. So for anybody playing BFS in the showdown lineups or you can play a two-game lineup, Amari Rogers is in play too. This is why I drafted him
Starting point is 00:26:11 for week 16. I stashed him the whole year. Chicago, Seattle. Who's a better flex, Dave Richard? Rashad, Penny, or DK Metcalf? I feel a little bit better about Penny than Metcalf because Lockett's back, Akeem Hicks is out.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So the matchup gets better for Penny. I know he's still going to split with somebody else in that backfield, whether it's DJ Dallas or whoever. But Tyler Lockett being back just means that Russell Wilson has his number one receiver back. That's the receiver that he trusts the most, connects with the most on downfield throws. And I would say that DK Metcalf has devolved
Starting point is 00:26:50 into a touchdown-needy receiver who gets end zone opportunities and just doesn't come up with them, whether it's Russ's fault or his fault. Is his fault? His fault. I love Lockett this week coming back. Hopefully he's okay. And I think Penny probably is safer than Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I think DK Metcalf scores this week. I want to be so bold and say this is what happens. And this is why people get so mad at players in particular. And probably why some people are mad at AJ Brown last night. Where was this during my regular season? You caused me to play. I know. Where was this during my regular season? You cost me the playoffs. I know. Where's this been for the last month?
Starting point is 00:27:28 We could say this every week about DK. That's what I'm saying, though. You're going to get a lot of people like that because they're out of it or got eliminated last week. Sure, but we were going to say that about DK no matter when he scored. If he had scored last week, if he had scored when he had three end zone targets
Starting point is 00:27:43 two weeks ago, he would have said it then. Did either Penny or Metcalf crack your top 20? Metcalf is still close, and Penny is closer to 24. I was concerned about Penny before the Hicks absence. So with Hicks now gone, before Hicks was absent. With Hicks now gone, I think Penny's definitely a safer play. You might be surprised to know that even with Hicks in their lineup, the Bears were allowing, in games just that he played,
Starting point is 00:28:11 and not including the game he played one snap, four and a half yards per carry to running backs. Some very good performances, but also some pretty bad ones. And so he's unlikely to play anyway. But what was the last thing I was going to say? Oh, the Bears secondary. It's still completely depleted by COVID. So we'll see if those guys make it back. Rams Vikings. Do Van Jefferson and Odell Beckham bounce back against the team that gives up the most fantasy points to wide receivers, Jamie? Yes. To what extent, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But they bounce back. One of them will certainly have a good game. DK Metcalf or Van Jefferson or Odell Beckham? I have Metcalf ranked ahead of them will certainly have a good game. DK Metcalf or Van Jefferson or Odell Beckham? I have Metcalf ranked ahead of them, so. I don't. I've got Odell ahead. Okay. I believe I have Odell, Metcalf, Van,
Starting point is 00:28:54 and it's really close between. No, I've got. I do have Metcalf ahead of Odell and then Van. Washington, Dallas. How much confidence do you have in the Dallas passing game? Dave, how much confidence do you have in the Dallas passing game? Dave, how much confidence do you have in the Cowboys passing game? It's waning because
Starting point is 00:29:09 Dak hasn't played well, really. He's had a couple of good games since he got hurt, but the last couple of weeks, he's not taking chances downfield. He's off target on a bunch of throws. He's not throwing deep nearly as much as the same thing as not taking chances downfield.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Worth reiterating. I think the Cowboys are running the ball a little bit better and they're leaning on their defense a little bit more. Okay. I kind of love Dak this week. Boy, I think you've, you've got faith in that calf. You got faith in Dak.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah. Well, much more faith in Dak than Metcalf. Dak, you know, I think we lose sight of the fact that the Cowboys just played three straight games on the road. That's a very difficult stretch for any team.
Starting point is 00:29:49 His track record at home is amazing. He's averaging 27.5 fantasy points at home this year. No game under 22 points. And you want to talk about a short week, you have Washington back-to-back road games after playing on Tuesday. This is a tired group that's down Cole Holcomb, that's down other guys still on the defensive line.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I think Dak's going to light them up. And let me just check on William Jackson. They are expecting to get Kendall Fuller back, though. Okay, well, they did lose William Jackson. I don't think those guys are legit difference makers. No, no, but I think, for me, I'm looking at what Cooper does in this matchup. I think C.D. Lamb's been a little unlucky.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I think he's going to go off. There's always who's the third guy that's going to contribute, and I think it'll be one of Dalton Schultz or Michael Gallup. So I think Dak's going to have a big game. I think he's going to remind people who he is. Detroit at Atlanta. Can you trust any Lions if Jared Goff doesn't play, Dave? DeAndre Swift I would trust.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I think I would trust. I think I'd trust St. Brown to a degree, but he'd be more in the flex range, even in PPR. I'm legit worried about the passing offense with Tim Boyle under center. Oh, I hope it's David Blau so we can sing the Mr. Blau song. Giants-Eagles,
Starting point is 00:31:01 start or sit Saquon Barkley, Jamie? Start with hesitation. Rash Saquon Barkley, Jamie? Start with hesitation. Rashad Penny or Barkley? Still Barkley. But there was, I think, Zach Rosenblatt of NewJersey.com wrote a story about how Devontae Booker
Starting point is 00:31:18 has looked better and needs more opportunities. I mean, I agree with the first part of that, but no, he does not need more opportunities. I'm serious. They're playing for nothing. What are you going to do? You're going to learn about Devante Booker?
Starting point is 00:31:29 No. Do you want to get Barkley injured? I mean, he's getting opportunities. I mean, that's the thing. Barkley is not like Barkley's getting 20 carries, but this is such a bad matchup now. The Eagles, we'll get into it a little bit later, but they dominate time of possession.
Starting point is 00:31:47 It's 35 or more minutes in five of their last seven games, and their run defense has gotten great again, but they actually didn't do well in time of possession against the Giants. They actually lost to the Giants, so a little revenge. And finally, Tampa Bay Carolina. Dave, are we good with Tom Brady? I'm okay with Brady.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I think he'll be fine if he's got Antonio Brown and Rob Gronkowski. You think about what his upside is when he's got all of his receiving threats. Even when he's got half of his receiving threats, it's still better than what a lot of other teams around the league have. There's not as much upside.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That's the problem. For Brady, you're right. But I still think he can get you 250 and two pretty easily. He probably could. You know, like the only question I think people might have if you had to make this choice is I would start Huntley over Brady. I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I'll take Brady over Huntley. I think he's just a little safer. He's definitely safer. What encourages me more also about Brady, it's not just Brown being back and Gronk being there, and I think Gronk bounces back from a bad game last week. If Fournette were healthy, I'd be a little nervous about Tampa Bay just saying, all right, well, we can be balanced on offense
Starting point is 00:32:57 and we can just lean on Fournette. But he's not playing. Rojo is. There's always the chance that Ronald Jones doesn't deliver to our expectations. And I don't think Ronald Jones necessarily takes over the game for Tampa Bay. I think he'll be good for Tampa Bay. I think he can score.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But we know that he's not going to be a huge part of the passing game for Tampa Bay. And ultimately, I think it'll be Brady who does what he usually does against Carolina, even without Evans and Godwin I guess I I would maybe take a counter approach and say that Jones is worse for Brady than Fournette for exactly what you said I totally agree Fournette it was their third leading receiver and Jones actually I mean small sample for him but he's more yards per carry than Fournette which I wouldn't care about except he did the the same thing last year. I think he's going to be fine running the ball. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They're about getting wins at this point. They're looking to the postseason. Sure. So why would they try and get wins with their Hall of Fame quarterback when they've got... However it unfolds. I mean, Brady could obviously have a big game. That goes without saying. But I think they're going to come out and try
Starting point is 00:34:03 and establish a run. And if Jones gets off to a good start, that's what they'll stick with. If he doesn't, then they'll go to Brady. But I think they're going to come out and try and establish a run. And if Jones gets off to a good start, that's what they'll stick with. If he doesn't, then they'll go to Brady. But I think they're going to get off to a good start because teams are running this opponent. I think it's entirely possible that all the Bucs do well in this game too. Just because Carolina turns the ball over a bunch on offense. I think their defense is a little overrated at this
Starting point is 00:34:19 point in the year. Do you think Tyler Johnson is a decent sleeper in, you know, Lazard or Johnson? Lazard for me. I think Johnson's not bad as a floor play in DFS. 10 PPR points. There's also the chance if Perryman gets
Starting point is 00:34:36 off the COVID list, then it's a little bit more messy. Alright, time for the start-o-meter here for the last three games we're going to talk about just in case this runs into Christmas. Detroit at Atlanta, start-o-meter here for the last three games we're going to talk about just in case this runs into Christmas. Detroit at Atlanta, start-o-meter for Jared Goff if he plays. Jamie, you can start with that. Four. DeAndre Swift. Ten. Eight in PPR, six in non-PPR. If Swift is out, Jamal Williams or Craig Reynolds? Reynolds. I'll say Reynolds, but I just
Starting point is 00:35:09 don't know what the coaches are thinking. They might go right back to Williams because he's the experienced guy. I don't think it's going to be messy. I think you're going to see all three guys in there because I don't think Swift is 100%. You're going to get Reynolds touching the ball. You're going to get Williams for whatever extent. You've got to play Swift if you have him,
Starting point is 00:35:26 but I just worry where the ceiling is if he doesn't score. And certainly the quarterback situation is different. Do they still feature him? Remember, when he left, these receivers were doing nothing. Yeah. Now he's back, and these guys are doing significantly much better. They found their receiving core. Still no Hawkinson.
Starting point is 00:35:43 So, you know, obviously that helps with the time. Cause you could, you could say, if you could say that Swift coming back hurts, hurts a monitor, St. Brown. It absolutely could.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Right. I think it does. All right. So, so I'm having Tim Boyle under center hurts them too. Like this is a completely different world than what Swift had when he was healthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I just don't think I'd have the guts to start St. Brown with if it's Boyle. I mean, yeah. How about you guys? I'm looking to take the under on his player props. Yeah, I just don't think I'd have the guts to start St. Brown if it's Boyle. I get it. Yeah, how about you guys? I'm looking to take the under on his player props. I have to start him in one league, but if you can avoid it, it might be a good idea. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Let's go to Atlanta on the start-o-meter. Matt Ryan. I think he's like a six. I'm starting to warm up to him a little bit. He's in the same range as Goff, so I'll say four. He just doesn't throw very much, and I don't think he'll have to if they're winning this game.
Starting point is 00:36:34 He doesn't throw very much. It's weird. Cordero Patterson. Ten. Eight. Mike Davis. Minus eight. He's a four.
Starting point is 00:36:44 If they're winning, he's going to have a decent opportunity to play well. Russell Gage. Ten. He's an eight in PPR. Seven and nine. And Kyle Pitts. Six.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Giants-Eagles. He looked better last week again. He's starting to trend in the right direction. And he's taking on Detroit. Oh, such a good matchup. Giants-Eagles? He looked better last week again. He's starting to trend in the right direction, and he's taking on Detroit. Oh, such a good matchup. Giants-Eagles, Saquon Barkley. Six. Yeah, I'd probably have him ranked as if he were a seven right now,
Starting point is 00:37:17 and I think I'm going to sink him. Okay. No other Giants, right? No. I would give the rest of the Giants a collective four. Okay. I'd go lower than that. Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Ten. I missed the name. Who'd you say? Jalen Hurts, yeah. Ten. Miles Sanders, if he plays. Ten. Nine.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Would you rather start Jordan Howard or Mike Davis if Miles Sanders plays? Howard. Howard. Jordan Howard or Saquon Barkley? Well, I'd say I'd start Davis and PPR with Howard. Howard or Barkley? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:53 If Sanders is out? No. Sanders is in. No, Barkley. Yeah. I'm telling you, you're probably going to get 10 carries from Jordan Howard for about 55 yards. That's going to be a tougher matchup for him, but I'll still take it. Yeah. I think you guys can tell I'm very down on Saquon Barkley.
Starting point is 00:38:10 What else? Oh, Devontae Smith. Three. Yeah, so tough to trust. Unfortunate. Dallas Goddard. Ten. Goddard or Pitts?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Goddard. Goddard. Tampa Bay at Carolina. Brady? Six. Seven. Rojo? 10.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Eight. Antonio Brown? 10. Yeah, 10. Rob Gronkowski, 15. 69. Yeah, he would say that. Cam Newton, you would?
Starting point is 00:38:50 Like a three. Okay. Amir Abdullah or anyone else other than DJ Moore? Abdullah's interesting. DJ Moore might not play. Abdullah, I'll say three in PPR. Chuba Hubbard? Remember I told you about Levante David.
Starting point is 00:39:09 That makes it much worse. Okay. Yeah. Both those running backs are a three for me. Oh, my gosh. Robbie would be like a really impressive four if there was no DJ Moore. I would actually like to see them feature Terrace Marshall if Moore doesn't play, just to see what they have.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I don't know if they think he's ready. And if DJ Moore plays, what'd you say about Robbie? A four? If DJ Moore's out. I'm sorry, yeah, if he's out, my bad. Maybe even a five, like a whole five. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:40 All right. So let's go. We got eight games and we're at 40 minutes. Good luck to us. Indianapolis and Arizona. We'll keep it simple here. Sit Wentz. If you disagree with me, please, if I say anything wrong,
Starting point is 00:39:56 I'm just going to try to get it along. Sit Wentz, start Taylor. Start or sit Michael Pittman? I like him. Dave, you do seem to like him this week. Why? I think that he bounces back after last week. I don't want to focus so much on what happened to the Colts passing game last week. Because Wentz only threw 12 times. They didn't have to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It was a short-ish week for them. He had at least eight targets in his prior two games. That includes a game they won 31-0 over Houston. So a game where you'd think the game script would be completely away from passing the football, still had eight targets. Arizona's allowed five touchdowns to wide receivers in their last two games, 19 to the wide receiver position all season, three wide receivers with at least 75 yards in their last two.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I think they're changing. I don't think that they're as tough of a pass defense as they were earlier in this year where we were scared of number one receivers against them. I don't think Wentz cares about that stat. I think Wentz just likes to find Pittman and that's his go-to guy in the passing game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Would you start Michael Pittman or Christian Kirk? Kirk by a mile. I'll start Pittman. What do you think? Kirk by a mile. I'll start Pittman. What do you think about Kirk against a team that gives up the second fewest yards to slot receivers and has one of the best slot cornerbacks
Starting point is 00:41:14 in football in Kenny Moore? Well, is Kirk going to be exclusively in the slot? I'm not sure if he was exclusive last week. No, but it's a pretty high percentage. He's a different kind of slot guy. I think he's going to have so many targets in a game where they could be chasing points. I love the setup for him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He's a number two receiver for me, especially in PPR. And how do you feel about A.J. Green? High end number three receiver. Both these guys are seeing A-plus targets, so i'll take my chances with that so if both running backs play for the cardinals who do you like better connor connor slightly but i'm so concerned that he's not going to finish the game if he starts and last week he did have two catches to zero for chase edmunds so even if edmunds you know runs more routes and whatnot it's still it's not like before when he had almost no catches,
Starting point is 00:42:07 something like five catches in the first eight games of the season. He's probably going to be a little more involved. So that hurts Edmonds. If they both play, would you start both Christian Kirk and A.J. Green over a Cardinals running back? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Kirk's the easy one to say yes to on that. I think I would take a running back over A.J. Green. All right, now let's say Conner's out. Would you start Edmonds, the same question, Edmonds or Kirk in that scenario? Edmonds. I think I'd go Kirk. Edmonds if Conner's out or DeAndre Swift?
Starting point is 00:42:45 Swift. Edmonds if Conor's out or DeAndre Swift? Swift. Edmonds. All right. Edmonds or Sonny Michel if Conor's out? Edmonds. Feels closer. Definitely feels closer, but I think I'd go Sonny. Get to Kyler Murray in a second.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Zach Ertz looks like a must-start this week. He's top five for you guys. The Colts have allowed 67 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in six of their last seven games. Jamie has Zach Ertz in one of our matchups, so I'm not looking forward to that. Kyler Murray. All right, last two games, 17 points against the Rams,
Starting point is 00:43:20 but he did have 61 rushing yards, but only 14 points at Detroit in his one game without Hopkins. Murray or Brady? Brady. Murray. How much faith do you have in Murray this week, Jamie? Moderate faith. Top six quarterback.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Top seven quarterback. I have him seventh, and I'm thinking about moving him down. He just did not look good each of the last two games. Really was off for most of the game against Detroit. Did start to get going late. That's where he started to throw better, and Kirk had his touchdown. But he seems a little off over the last two games, and that's got me concerned.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Yeah, this used to be such a layup of a matchup, the Colts' pass defense. They allow the second-highest touchdown rate in the NFL, but over the last five weeks, five touchdowns, seven interceptions. Three of those games were against Jacksonville, Houston, and New England, but two of them were against Buffalo and Tampa Bay, and they did a great job against
Starting point is 00:44:16 Brady and Josh Allen, so I don't know if it's a genuine improvement or what, but it doesn't look like it's the layup it used to be. No, but they did lose Rocky Sin, so we'll see what that matters. That is true. Starting cornerback for them. So, Kyler Murray or Tyler Huntley?
Starting point is 00:44:32 I currently have Murray over Huntley, but I could see myself making that switch. Yeah, I'd stick with Murray. All right, we're going to sit the DSTs in this game, right? Yes. They're good? Good on this game? All right.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Finished with this game. Let's take a break. Let's go to Cleveland at Green Bay. When we come back, tell you what the Packers have allowed to wide receivers in their last four games. It is troubling. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.
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Starting point is 00:45:21 Visit OntarioOneCall.ca. It's free. It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Cleveland visits the frozen tundra on Christmas Day. The Packers defense is struggling. 28 or more points allowed in four straight games. Six pass plays of more than 40 yards in their last four games and 76 or more yards to six wide receivers in their last four games. As I alluded to earlier, though, a lot of deep stuff. And, you know, like you can think about the Rams game,
Starting point is 00:45:54 the deep balls to Jefferson and Beckham. And that's not exactly the forte of Jarvis Landry. So, Dave, let's talk about Cleveland first. And who on Cleveland are you starting? I'll start Nick Chubb. I don't like that he's lost JC Tretter in the middle of his offensive line and that the Packers are getting back Kenny Clark. That worries me quite a bit. And obviously, if the Packers build a lead on this tired Browns defense, who would be without cornerback Greg Newsome, by the way, I wonder just how much work Chubb will get.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So he's starting to make me nervous. I've got him ranked high. I could see myself moving him down as we get closer to the game on Saturday. He's probably the only one that I feel really good about. If I had any belief that this Brown's offense could consistently be effective on deep passes, Peoples Jones would be in play in redraft leagues. He's definitely in play in DFS. I would love the idea of taking the chance on Peoples-Jones
Starting point is 00:46:53 because of the set you mentioned, the Packers pass defense being bad. But I don't necessarily want to trust him in my lineups this week unless I was really thin at wide receiver three. Okay, but you like Landry better than Peoples-Jones or you like Peoples-Jones? I think he's safer than Peoples-Jones, so if I'm debating between those two guys, it's Landry because I know
Starting point is 00:47:13 he's going to wake up and roll into 10 PPR points and he might get as many as 17 if he scores. I think it's going to be a little bit harder to count on that from Peoples-Jones. Would you guys start Jarvis Landry or Amari Cooper? Full PPR. Cooper for me.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Cooper. How about Gallup or Landry? Landry. I don't know Landry there. How about Landry or Pittman? Pittman, but it's close. Pittman. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I guess we should keep an eye on Njoku. He practiced yesterday. He did? Okay. Well, then our eye is kept on him. So that means sit Hooper and Njoku? I would plan on it, yes. Okay, so let's talk about the Green Bay Packers here. And Aaron Rodgers is a must-start, obviously.
Starting point is 00:47:59 It looks like Myles Garrett is going to play, but right now, Jadeveon Clowney's still in the COVID protocols. Yeah. And no McKinley. No attack McKinley. Right, and Garrett is at less than 100%. He's going to gut it out, but he won't be normal Miles Garrett. Start him.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I'm just going to say I like Rodgers this week. Yeah, it's a pretty good play. Start Adams. Now, how do we feel about A.J. Dillon and Aaron Jones, Jamie? Break it down. Jones better than Dillon. Jones, I think, will benefit with MBS not there because what they typically do with
Starting point is 00:48:33 their running game and the passing game, running backs and passing game, excuse me. Dillon is kind of, you know, to expect this point, he's a touchdown or bust running back. So the thing that you would probably like is that if they're playing with the lead, he's going to get a lot of opportunities in fourth quarter. So he's not a bad number two running back. So the thing that you would probably like is that if they're playing with a lead, he's going to get a lot of opportunities in fourth quarter. So he's not a bad number two running back in non
Starting point is 00:48:49 PPR, flex in PPR. But again, you saw what the way things can unfold for him last week, where if he doesn't score like what happened two weeks ago, you're going to be left with a very empty stat line. Aaron Jones or Nick Chubb? Still Nick Chubb?
Starting point is 00:49:07 Still Nick Chubb. I think Jones will be one of the running backs I'll put ahead of Chubb. How about A.J. Dillon or Sonny Michel? Sonny for me. A.J. Dillon or Rashad Penny? I would take Michel over Jones in non-PPR, too. I've got Dillon ranked ahead of Penny right now. Who is it? Dillon or who? Penny.J. Dillon or Rashad Penny? I would take Michelle over Jones in non-PPR, too. I've got Dillon ranked ahead of Penny right now. Who is it? Dillon or who?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Penny. Penny. I'll take Penny. You'd go Sonny Michelle over Aaron Jones in non-PPR? Yes. Okay. Yeah, Minnesota, that's a good matchup for Sonny Michelle for sure. Let's camp Akers, please.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Right. All right. A.J. Dillon. um let's can't make her place right all right aj dylan already been the craziest year in the history of fantasy football would it really shock you if he came back this week yes aj dylan or dk metcalf let's say half ppr metcalf metcalf has a little more upside but they're both the same. You need them both to score in order to feel good about things. And if MVS is out, would you start Alain Lazard or AJ Green? Green. Lazard.
Starting point is 00:50:18 How about this? This is a good one. If MVS is out, Alain Lazard or Mikko Hardman? Lazard. Okay. All right. I think we're
Starting point is 00:50:27 finished with this game. I don't want to sell these games short. I know I usually take a lot more time, but... We're at the point where you kind of
Starting point is 00:50:36 know who you're using. Does it feel like I'm selling these games short? No, not at all. All right. I don't want to hurt the listeners here. Chicago at Seattle.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Take a look at conversions in this game. These are two of the three worst third down teams in the NFL. You could have taken out third down. What? You could have taken out third down. Only Detroit has a lower third down conversion rate. There is one difference, though, in conversions. The Bears are the fourth worst red zone team
Starting point is 00:51:04 in terms of converting red zone opportunities into touchdown conversions. The Bears are the fourth worst red zone team in terms of converting red zone opportunities into touchdowns. The Bears are the fourth worst, and the Seahawks are actually the fourth best. And that is so important to me because, you know, I know a lot of people just start David Montgomery with total confidence. But the reason why he doesn't feel like he's been that great is because they suck in the red zone and he barely ever scores. You got to love his role in the passing game, though,
Starting point is 00:51:27 and we'll get into him in a little bit against a team that gives up the most receiving yards to running backs. Why don't we get into it right now? Why don't we talk about David Montgomery, Jamie? Is he a slam dunk start this week at Seattle? 100%. Yeah, you can't get away from his work. You can't get away from the role in the passing game. The touchdowns, the lack of touchdowns stink.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But, I mean, with what the running back landscape looks like this week and really for the season, anybody that's getting as much work as he is is hard to avoid. So you have to have a very unique set of circumstances to be benching David Montgomery. Montgomery or Aaron Jones?
Starting point is 00:51:59 Montgomery. Jones. I'm just going to give you the numbers. Aaron Jones, Ronald Jones. I'm just going to give you the numbers. Aaron Jones, Ronald Jones. There's only three games all year where David Montgomery has scored more than 13 PPR fantasy points. Yep. And I feel like Aaron Jones has done that each of the last two games, right? Because he's scored.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Sure, but it's a matter of you're counting on work versus touchdowns. And so does Aaron Jones have higher touchdown potential? Sure. Does David Montgomery gonna touch the ball more? Yes. Yeah, that is for sure. Okay, back to this game here. I had a stat of the game.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Let's find it. Stat of the game. The Bears allow the third most fantasy points to wide receivers. That's it. That's almost the head of the game. So, you know, Dave, I know I mentioned this on the live stream yesterday. I watched every target for DK Metcalf in his last three games.
Starting point is 00:52:52 There are opportunities there. Absolutely. It's so frustrating. There was a slant against the Texans where he could have scored and the throw was behind him. There was the deep ball against the Rams. It was pathetically underthrown. What am I supposed to make of that? I still think there's a chance for a good game here. Obviously, we all do, but I know you're really kind of, I feel like you kind of had it with Metcalf. And I wonder if the Seahawks have, too,
Starting point is 00:53:15 and if Russ has had it, and maybe they would try and come together and put something to work in practice so that Metcalf can be that number one guy for them. But Lockett's back, and I think that means a world of difference, both in general for the matchup
Starting point is 00:53:33 and for how Russ thinks when he drops back to pass. I don't think there's any reason for him to target Metcalf 12 times this week. And he did it last week, and Metcalf didn't even average 10 yards per catch. He caught half the balls. It's not all on DK. There's no question because you even mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:53:49 We all saw the deep ball last week to Metcalf that was way off target. And then you mentioned the pass that was thrown behind him in the red zone. I guess it was two games ago. I think that it's just going to be more of a lower target volume and fewer opportunities just in general for DK Metcalf. He might get one or two end zone targets, but he's been getting that week in and week out
Starting point is 00:54:11 and nothing. He's Mike Williams. Yeah, there could be a squeaky wheel game coming. Like I'm reading some stuff right here from Pete Carroll this week about how, here's what he said, they're trying their ass off to play right. They're working on their stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:29 They're out. The calls are there. We're trying to get the ball there. We've just got to throw and catch it, and we've got to make the plays, and they've got to get the job done. That was, I think, following the game. And this is what he said on the radio after the fact. They're working at it, and they're developing.
Starting point is 00:54:41 They're a pretty dangerous pair. We've just got to keep going. We hit the deep ball. Everything would have been different. I'm sure talking about the Ramsey play we underthrew him. I think he's still going to be in the neighborhood of eight targets. This matchup is too good. It's very difficult to sit DK Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Lockett is obviously ahead of him, right? Must start. Okay. How about Mooney or Metcalf? Metcalf. I'd go DK over Mooney. Even if Dalton plays. Mooney or... Because I've kind of had it with Mooney too
Starting point is 00:55:09 do you like Mooney and I think Dalton's better for him look at the last two games he had with Dalton right I mean off the top of my head I know one of them was 100 I think they were both 100 yard games I think if Dalton's under center you can make a better case for Mooney as weird as that sounds but I also don't think the Seahawks'
Starting point is 00:55:26 defense... I think their defense is designed to keep Mooney from beating them deep. They're so good against receivers. Put it that way. And they've given up three touchdowns in their last ten games to receivers. Two of them were to cup. One was Jamal Agnew. So, in general,
Starting point is 00:55:42 start or sit Darnell Mooney this week? Set him if you can. You can. You can sit him. You can get Nicole Hardman and put him in there. Which tight end do you like better in this game? Will Disley's on the COVID list. So is it Everett or Komet for you? I would go Everett and non-PPR
Starting point is 00:55:58 and Komet and PPR. I'll take Komet in both. If the Seattle defense is going to be playing deep to keep the big pass from beating them, then short throws are in order, and that's where Komet thrives. I do like it better for Komet if it's Fields versus Dalton.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Okay. Yeah, although one of Komet's best games came on Thanksgiving with Dalton. I think the one thing, though, about what you said, Dave, is there's just the lack of touchdown potential for Komet, as we've seen. And so that's why I would take Everett non-PPR, because I think he can score
Starting point is 00:56:27 twice in this game. Wouldn't surprise me. All right, so how about Russell Wilson? How do you feel about Russell Wilson now that we know Lockett is back? Borderline starter.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Wilson or Mahomes? And the thing that he struggles with is pressure up the middle. They're not going to have that with the key mix, not there. Sure. And, you know, whether you heard pressure up the middle. They're not going to have that with Hakeem Hicks, not there. Sure. And you know, whether you heard it already in this podcast or you hear it later,
Starting point is 00:56:49 you know, I'm nervous about Dak Prescott. I'll still start Dak Prescott over Russell Wilson, but I agree with Jamie's call. I've got him 13th borderline starter, not a must start by any means better than pretty much any streaming option that's out there. Save for Tyler Huntley.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah. I mean, I might go Russell Wilson over Mahomes if Mahomes doesn't get his guys back. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. Okay. So, Rashad Penny, Jamie, how do you feel about Rashad Penny this week? I mean, I think he's in a better spot without Hicks there. You know, it's a much better opportunity. It's, you know, I still think he'll be the lead guy. I am concerned though, if Collins does get healthy,
Starting point is 00:57:28 still dealing with an abdomen injury, despite coming off the COVID list, uh, if they activate Adrian Peterson, then that's a, that's a red flag. But if it's, you know, just Collins and DJ Dallas, then I think you should be okay with Penny. Um, you know, I would imagine that, you know, you talked about what, with Barkley, what the Giants are trying to look at for their future. I think that the Seahawks need to figure out if, if Penny can be their guy, you know you talked about what with Barkley what the Giants are trying to look at for their future I think that the Seahawks need to figure out if if Penny can be their guy you know hopefully stays healthy it it was really frustrating because I don't know if he would have scored the touchdown that DJ Dallas got but that's the one that he lost because he left the field with a back injury and there's always that concern with him I like the fact that he's not on
Starting point is 00:57:58 injury report this week so I think Penny's a low-end starter flex, depending on what you need. I originally had him behind Jeff Wilson and Deontay Foreman. I put him ahead of them after I saw the Hicks news yesterday. So that could be one that I regret. But in any event, I think he's in that late 20s, 23 to 27 range of running backs. Carol also talked this week about running the ball more, which is very scary because when he's talked about it in the past,
Starting point is 00:58:31 he's followed through with it. If Penny is that lead guy, then sure, he's got an opportunity to just compile some good stats and maybe have a couple of breakaway runs, but that's what you're looking for if you start him. Last week against LA, he averaged 3.6 yards per carry. He didn't face eight in the box even one time. I do worry about him
Starting point is 00:58:49 coming through with explosive plays. Worried about him staying healthy throughout the game. Feels like he's in that same box as Wilson and Foreman, where if he doesn't score, he's going to leave you hanging. Anything else in this game? I think we're good.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I like the Seahawks DST. Okay. Rams at Vikings. An interesting matchup for Kirk Cousins because he's been terrible under pressure. He has not completed a pass under pressure in two straight games. He was 0-7 against the Bears on Monday.
Starting point is 00:59:22 He also really struggles against too deep coverage. Teams have been playing that a lot lately against the Vikings, and they've openly talked about it. They and the rest of the NFL is struggling against too deep coverage. All right, let me give you a couple stats here. Here is a mildly encouraging stat of the game for Beckham and for Van Jefferson. In the last three games, there have been seven wide receivers who have had 62 or more receiving yards against the Vikings. So that gives you a little bit of a floor
Starting point is 00:59:50 maybe. That's a lot. That's more than two per game. How about six wide receivers with at least 75 yards in their past five? Sum it up, their past defense sucks, and they give up the most points to wide receivers. And they don't pressure the quarterback as much as even Seattle does.
Starting point is 01:00:06 They play the same, a similar style of defense to Seattle. It's not exactly the same, but they try and take away the deep ball like Seattle did, but they don't get pressure like Seattle does. So that gives Stafford a little more time to throw, and that could open up those guys further downfield. Yes, a concerning stat of the game. Tell me how you guys feel about this.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I don't think, I don't know how you feel about it. I won't even say it. The Rams, 3.21 yards per carry to running backs in the last seven games, but it doesn't matter. You guys are starting Alexander Madison. He's top five. Start him. Stafford is an easy one. He's top four. Start him.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Sonny Michel. So, Jamie, your thoughts on Sonny Michel going against Minnesota? They are 20th against running backs. They are not good. I mean, the nice thing is that the Rams showed you who they prefer, and it's Michel over Henderson. And so will Henderson's role increase, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:58 a game removed from the thigh injury slash COVID scenario that he was dealing with? Potentially. But I think, you know, uh, Pete Prisco talked about this and I think it's accurate that the, the, the Rams want to be more of a physical team as they get into the playoffs because they know they can throw when they have to, they have the quarterback, they have the receiving court to do it. And what they did last week, they did it without Haverstein and they did it without Higby, and those are two significant blockers for their rushing attack.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And so if they get those guys back, I don't know Haverstein's status, because I know Higby's still on the COVID list. But if you get those guys back, you know, I think that just makes it even more of an opportunity for Michel to run the ball. So this is going to be a team, I think, that you see, you know, established to run early, but also this is a throw to score, run to win type of team. And they can use Michelle late in the game. So I think he's a very safe number two running back this week.
Starting point is 01:01:50 He just, you know, he would add a monster game. You feel a lot more, a lot better about him if he had scored. But everything else, you know, I think you could feel pretty good about his rushing work, the minimal work in the passing game, but that's kind of going to be the case I think most weeks for the Rams. So you're looking at maybe two to three catches. So he's got still, I think, think 20 touch potential even with Henderson still there
Starting point is 01:02:08 Beckham or Beckham's going to be a tough one for people this week Beckham or Clyde Edwards Elair Clyde I'm gonna say Clyde but it's the second matchup in a row where it just makes perfect sense for the Chiefs to run more. But they didn't do it last week. Granted, they did pretty good throwing the ball. They're chasing points. That too. Against the Steelers, the Steelers have allowed over 400 yards to running backs on the ground the last two weeks.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I can't help but think that they would really hammer that, especially without Tyreek and Kelsey on the field. So I'll say Edward Ziller, but it's not a slam dunk. How would you rank these three wide receivers? Beckham, Van Jefferson, Gabriel Davis? You just did. Davis, Beckham, Jefferson. Oh, how about that?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Davis last for Dave, first for Jamie against the Rams wide receivers. Start or sit Tyler Higbee if he plays. The Vikings have allowed four touchdowns to tight ends in their last three games and 71 yards to Cole Komet last week. He'd be in a low-end starting range. Okay, Conklin or Higbee? Higbee. Higbee, but I wouldn't feel good about either one. He'd be in a low-end starting range. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Conklin or Higby? Higby. Higby, but I wouldn't feel good about either one. You may have answered this earlier, but Cousins or Wilson? Right now, I have Cousins one spot ahead. I'm going to change that with Lockett back. I should have did that yesterday. So I'll take Russell Wilson over Cousins.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I still have Cousins. But that's 12 and 13 for me. How much does Thielen matter? I don't think you can just ignore the fact that his last two games have been junk and Thielen hasn't played. Well, one game was Dalvin Cook going for 200 yards. I guess, but he also was 14 of 31. He could have had a huge game.
Starting point is 01:04:02 He had all those misplays with Justin Jefferson. This is the setup you like for Cousins because they're most likely chasing points. And so, you know, he could clearly vomit all over himself and throw, you know, a pick six and some interceptions. But I still think this is the scenario I would prefer. No Dalvin and Thielen back
Starting point is 01:04:18 and chasing points. I think only four quarterbacks have thrown two touchdown passes against the Rams and Cousins has done that in seven straight games. So we'll see. Right, but he's had a couple of games where he's thrown two touchdowns and didn't have a great fantasy game otherwise. Last week was one of those games.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Oh, yeah, sure. But he gives you that floor, I guess, because he does throw a lot of touchdowns. All right, Madison, you start. Jefferson, you start. What do you do with Thielen and or Osborne? Dave? Thielen's a start, but I would lower the expectations a little bit
Starting point is 01:04:50 just because we don't know how effective he'll be coming off the ankle sprain. Osborne is not a start for me, definitely if Thielen doesn't play, or definitely if Thielen does play, and even if Thielen doesn't play. Two games ago, nine targets, three catches. He had one great play.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Last week, didn't get a lot of targets, didn't have a great game. I'm nervous about Osborne and would go in a different direction. So let's talk a little bit more about Gerald Everett here, actually, just because I think... I'm not sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I was going to compare him to Tyler Higbee because I think people are desperate for tight ends and you've got a guy who could find the end zone. So would you start Everett or Higbee if he plays? Everett. I'd plan on Everett. He's got more upside. How about Higbee or Jared Cook? I kind of like Cook without Parham there, so I would go Cook.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I'm sorry. I thought you meant with Higbee. I would go Everett over... No, Hham there. So I would go Cook. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought you meant with Higby. I would go Everett over. No, Higby. Higby or Cook. I would go Cook over Higby. Okay. They feel like the same guy to me.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I might go. No, I think I'd still go Cook over Higby. Kind of avoiding the Rams DST this week? Yes. If you can. Okay. If you don't want to, you don't? Yes. If you can. Okay. If you don't want to, you don't have to. It's a bad matchup.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Do the check of the waiver wire for the Dolphins, the Eagles, maybe even the Seahawks. Yeah, I'd go the Broncos over them too. Yes, I would. I started the Niners. I started the Niners over them last night. I don't blame you. I had them running back to back.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Washington is at Dallas. That of the game. Dak Prescott in his last five games since returning from the calf injury. It is important to note he is averaging nine rushing yards per game, so he's giving you nothing there. But he's also got a 2.4%
Starting point is 01:06:38 touchdown rate. If you listen to the Wednesday show, we did discuss this. He's been a little unlucky there. Throwing 41 times per game in these five games with a 2.4% touchdown rate. So where did you come out on Dak Prescott, Jamie?
Starting point is 01:06:52 I know earlier you said you were pretty optimistic. Either six or seven. It's between him and Kyler in that spot. I do think he's going to bounce back. You know, again, I think three straight road games
Starting point is 01:07:02 is tough for any team. A couple of tough matchups in there. Like you said, a little unlucky as well. And coming back home against a team that's back-to-back road games after playing on Tuesday, I think it's going to matter for how Washington's defense is. And so he's got a good track record at home. He's got a good track record against his team.
Starting point is 01:07:21 This team has been bad against quarterbacks all season long for the most part. And so I think Dak takes advantage of it. Receiving core is healthy. He's in a good spot for me, in my opinion. I think he's a starter. I really am going to count on that fact that Washington's a tired team on the road
Starting point is 01:07:37 after the short week. I think that that is humongous here. And I think the Cowboys really need that. So the question is, does Dak continue to throw as much as he has been since his injuries played seven games, he's had at least 35 pass attempts in six of the seven games. So I think he's got a good chance to throw 35 passes again,
Starting point is 01:07:56 even if it's just a walloping over this Washington football team, he's just not taking a lot of chances downfield. Three deep pass attempts in his past two games. That includes the game when Tyron got hurt, left tackle got hurt. Maybe he's rushing to get rid of the football and checking down a little bit more. He obviously didn't have Tyron Smith last
Starting point is 01:08:15 week. Only 15 pass attempts over 10 air yards in his past two games. Those are the intermediate throws. That's tied for 21st most among quarterbacks. He's been off-target on a lot of those throws, 10, 20-plus yards downfield. His interception two games ago was an
Starting point is 01:08:31 off-target throw against Washington. So he has been playing as well. And I wonder if the Cowboys recognize that and they try and take the ball out of his hands after all. And if this is an easy defense where they're able to do whatever they want against them because the football team is tired, then that means that they're able to do whatever they want against them, because the football team is tired, then that means that they're going to be able to run against them too.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And so maybe I'm missing the boat on Zeke and he should be a little higher in my rank. Okay, good. Let's go to that. Let's go to that. Cause it doesn't matter who they've played. Zeke can't run on anyone these days,
Starting point is 01:08:57 but Pollard can, but who is the best? He looked a little better last week. No, I think he looked powerful. I thought he was, you know, he was, he's tough. He's strong, he's tough to tackle.
Starting point is 01:09:07 He has no explosion. He's got a knee brace on for two straight games. I mean, I think that is taking some speed away from him. And you could see the difference so clearly when Pollard comes in. I can think of a play where Pollard kind of went for about seven yards around the corner and ran out of bounds. Zeke probably would have gotten two yards. It's just such a difference right now.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Zeke needs Tyron Smith much more so than Tony Pollard needs Tyron Smith. I mean, does it even matter? No, it doesn't matter. You're right, but I'm saying, like, he's going to run between the tackles. Anything he's going to do is going to be because somebody misses him, not because he's making somebody miss. Pollard is somebody they can go wide with. Pollard is somebody they can do, you know, different things with,
Starting point is 01:09:44 get him out in space. He makes people miss more so at this point. They're not going to have a changing of the guard anytime soon this season, but it's very much a 50-50 split, and it should be because Pollard looks better. 50-50 split, but obviously Zeke should have probably more catches and definitely the goal line work.
Starting point is 01:10:00 That's just been the deal. So who's the best running back in this game? Right now, still Gibson, but that's really trending in the wrong direction. Right. I will take Zeke and Gibson would be next if he plays. Pollard would be right behind him.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Gibson has five or more catches in three of his last four games. That's just saving grace for him and it sets down potential also. He's a better version of Zeke right now and that's not by much. Alright, so then we've got to compare them to some other guys. Clyde or a running back in this game? Clyde. I guess. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:10:33 Clyde. Josh Jacobs or a running back in this game? Jacobs. I don't like the matchup for Jacobs. I would still take him. How about Joe Mixon? Mixon. I might have Zeke ahead? Mixon. I might have Zeke ahead of Mixon. I'll take Gibson
Starting point is 01:10:49 in PPR over Zeke. Okay. How about who is the second best wide receiver? I'm sorry. Gibson in PPR over Mixon. Who is the second best wide receiver in this game after CeeDee Lamb? Cooper. It's Cooper and then McLaurin.
Starting point is 01:11:06 McLaurin is closer to Gallup than he is to Cooper. Are you confident? I think we like Cooper, right? Yes. Cooper's fine. I could see McLaurin catching a deep ball. I like that Heineken's back. I think that's better for him than Garrett Gilbert.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I remember previewing this game two weeks ago and thinking, hey, I like McLaurin. And here's why. The targets have been way down lately. This was going into two weeks ago. Targets have been way down lately because Gibson's running the ball 20 times a game, and they're on a four-game winning streak, and they're not giving up a lot
Starting point is 01:11:38 of points, and their defense is playing better. And I like him because I think Dallas is going to come in there and score a bunch. Heineke's going to have to throw more. His pass attempts have been way down. And McLaurin's going to really benefit from it. Well, it didn't happen. Is that the game he left with an injury? McLaurin?
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah. I don't believe so. He... I think it was last week. Last, okay. Well, it didn't happen. He was horrible against Dallas. And, right, he had no catches on three targets.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And Dallas hasn't been scoring. That's the problem. I think you need Dallas to score to get the pass attempts up, to get the targets up. So that's kind of where we're at with McLaurin right now. And even then, I mean, he's not coming through. I don't want to sit him, but. I do.
Starting point is 01:12:20 You do? Okay. Would you sit him for Zeke or Gibson? He has one good game since week seven. This isn't a small sample size. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But if he has a big game, then you're going to say afterward,
Starting point is 01:12:34 oh, now you do it. Of course, it's in the playoffs. Well, no. I mean, I haven't been ranking him as a starter. I haven't been trusting him as a starter. It's been a disappointing season. My whole ranking was on Ryan Fitzpatrick. And so it's been a disaster without the guy who I thought
Starting point is 01:12:49 was going to pepper him with targets. Taylor Heineke is not that guy. No, the saving grace is that you're hoping that he catches one or two deep balls against the Cowboys. The Cowboys have allowed 12 catches of 20-plus yards to receivers in their last five. That includes four touchdowns. It's the fifth most of anybody in the league.
Starting point is 01:13:07 So it's, it, you know, the deal with McLaurin it's feast or famine. He gets a decent amount of, a lot of famine, but when he feasts, he feasts,
Starting point is 01:13:17 he's feasted once. He's feasted four, four times this year and once in his last seven, but, but it is always when he has the targets. And if you think the Cowboys are going to do whatever they want, then maybe there's some appeal. He hasn't been above eight targets since week seven.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Because the football team's defense has been so much better in that stretch. Even last week, I mean, it wasn't that good, but they didn't give up a ton of points. They also didn't have the ball much. Look, I get it. It's hard to trust them. All right, then that's it for that game. Let didn't have the ball much. Look, I get it. It's hard to trust them. All right, then. That's it for that game.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Except for the tight ends. Dalton Schultz, after a big game last week against the Giants. Would you go with Dalton Schultz? We talked about Everett and Komet. Maybe Higby. Is Schultz ahead of that group?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Schultz is ahead of that group for me. I would only start Komet over Schultz in PPR. I don't think Schultz is solved yet because of what happened last week. No, but if Dak is going to continue with this short passing, then that benefits Schultz. How about Gasicki or Schultz? He was miserable in this game two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:14:16 He was. And who's got the better chance to score between Schultz and Komet? Oh, Schultz. I would take Schultz and not PPR, but I would take Komet and PPR. I think Komet's going to have... He might double him in catches. Gasicki or Schultz and Komet. I would take Schultz and not PPR, but I would take Komet and PPR. I think Komet's going to have... He might double him in catches.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Gasicki or Schultz? Still Gasicki, but I don't like it. Hunter Henry or Schultz? I don't like either one. Hunter Henry. Warren and Aguilar are still out. I'll take Henry. Dallas DST is top six.
Starting point is 01:14:42 We've got three games left. We can do this in 10 minutes. Detroit at Atlanta, Kyle Pitts is set up. I want to get the stat of the game. Detroit's been terrible against tight ends. Start Kyle Pitts. But we said start Goddard over him if you have those two. I guess in general, Detroit's one of the more difficult teams
Starting point is 01:15:00 to break down right now. We don't know who's in or who's out, but I think we got to assume Goff is out. So we got more questions about Amonra St. Brown in our chat yesterday than any other player. Jamie, give me your thoughts on Amonra St. Brown. If Goff plays, he's got top 10 upside. If Goff is out, he's a low-end number two receiver in PPR
Starting point is 01:15:18 and a number three receiver at best in non-PPR. On the other side of the ball, do you worry, we will not skip the running backs, we'll get to them, but we have talked about them a lot today. Are you worried at all, I brought this up about Gage on the stream yesterday,
Starting point is 01:15:37 his two big games lately have been losses where he's had a lot of targets. You know, if they win this game and if we like Patterson because everybody runs on Detroit, does this feel more like the 5-for-65 Russell Gage than the true standout, must-start Russell Gage? The touchdown that he caught against the 49ers last week
Starting point is 01:15:57 was early in the game, so I don't think score mattered there. He's their guy. He is their best receiving option right now. He's not their most talented receiving option. Kyle Pitts is still their guy. He is their best receiving option right now. He's not their most talented receiving option. Kyle Pitts is still that guy. But with what Russell Gage has done lately, the targets have been very nice. The production has been even nicer.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I think he's going to be fine. I think you've seen the floor, and it's a 4 for 64. So he's not going to completely kill you in PPR and non-PPR. But the ceiling has been amazing. And so, um, yeah, I'll,
Starting point is 01:16:27 I'll, I'll take my chance with him. We like Patterson a lot. Do we like him better than Zeke and Gibson? Yes. Yes. Okay. Do we like him better than Nick Chubb?
Starting point is 01:16:37 I don't think so. Uh, no, but they're close. Okay. And then, yeah, Dave,
Starting point is 01:16:42 finally, give me your, sum it up again, your thoughts on the Detroit running backs I think Swift if he plays is the lead back does he dominate playing time that'll probably depend on game flow and how he does early on it's a good matchup against Atlanta I think they are struggling against running backs proof of that is last week with Jeff Wilson doing what he did against them but my best stab at it is that he's run 60% of the snaps,
Starting point is 01:17:07 and then they work in. I would think it would be Reynolds, but the coaching staff might think it's Williams as the other guy in there. But I still see Swift as the explosive running back and one who could get you a huge game. I don't see how you bench him against Stanley. Now give me the scenario of Swift is out. So if it's,
Starting point is 01:17:28 it's going to be Williams and Reynolds. I just, if you, if you watch the two running backs play, Reynolds is the one who looks better. Last two weeks have shown it. He's looked good. He doesn't have breakaway speed.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I don't think Williams has breakaway speed either, but Reynolds just seems to do a better job of reading his blockers, finding a lane, hitting the hole, and going. And I think Williams has struggled with that, doing that. Okay, but I guess I'm asking— Reynolds is clearly number two. Where would you guys rank them, though? If Swift is out?
Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah. If Swift is out, Reynolds would be probably a high-end number three running back for me in PPR. Here, I was looking up a story to see what Dan Campbell said, and he said this about Craig Reynolds. I would say this. If Craig goes to the game, Craig is getting some carries. That's what I would say. So, yeah, he's warranted that.
Starting point is 01:18:14 So he's going to work in with DeAndre Swift to whatever capacity. I love that quote. That's good. So he's getting work. It's just a matter of how much work is he going to take away from Swift. And I think you've got to take into account, you know, is Swift rushing back from this injury, or have they taken their time with him?
Starting point is 01:18:29 I've said this several times. I would imagine when he got hurt, he went to the University of Georgia. This is probably a big game for him going back there, wanting to play in front of, you know, I don't know if he's from Georgia, but I'm going to guess he's, you know, from the area. This is probably a big game for him. Let's see. Do you think Siri knows? Hey, Siri. but I'm going to guess he's from the area. This is probably a big game for him. I think he's from Philly. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Do you think Siri knows? Hey, Siri, where is DeAndre Swift from? Philadelphia. Good job, Siri. All right. In any event, he played at Georgia. I would imagine this game means something to him, going back to Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:19:05 So is he coming back because he's ready to go? Is it coming back because he's close to ready to go? You know, they've, they've done a nice job with Craig Reynolds last two weeks. So they're going to see how much they use both these guys. How about this? They have nothing to play for. They're not going anywhere this year.
Starting point is 01:19:16 They're going to bring Swift back and put them on the field. They obviously think he's healthy enough to play. Why would they risk him getting hurt again? Although I'm sure he's ready to play. It's just a matter of, is he a hundred percent ready to play or is he 80% ready? Right. But if he's 80% ready to play. Why would they risk him getting hurt again? I'm sure he's ready to play. It's just a matter of is he 100% ready to play or is he 80% ready to play? Right, but if he's 80% ready to play, why rush him back? I mean, again, this is just
Starting point is 01:19:31 my logic coming out and it has nothing to do with Dan Campbell's logic and what they're trying to do. They're trying to run games. He says he's ready to go. They're going to play him. That's why I think he's going to get a lot of work. That's why I've got him as a top five running back. I wouldn't rank him that high, but I get it. Yeah, that's bold. All right, Tampa Bay
Starting point is 01:19:47 at Carolina. Brady is a star. Dave likes him a lot. He's got him fifth. Jamie's got him closer to tenth. And I guess we should do some Brady-ors. I'll just, in case people miss it. Brady or Tyler Huntley?
Starting point is 01:20:04 Huntley for me. Brady. Brady or Tyler Huntley? Huntley for me. Brady. Brady or Dak Prescott? Dak Brady. Okay. Ronald Jones is a must-start running back, but let me just tell you, if you took away Leonard Fournette's receiving totals,
Starting point is 01:20:22 if you think that's what Ronald Jones is, what are you talking about here? In the last 10 games, that's when Fournette's receiving totals. If you think that's what Ronald Jones is, what are you talking about here? In the last 10 games, that's when Fournette started taking over and not including last week when he got hurt. You are talking about the sixth most carries and the fifth most rushing yards in that stretch and just really good production and eight touchdowns in 10 games.
Starting point is 01:20:41 So even if you only get maybe two catches from Ronald Jones, you still have a lot of rushing work there. So yeah, Jones, I guess people are going to be asking Jones or. So how about Jones or Cordero Patterson? Jones. I currently have Patterson higher. Okay. Jones or Alvin Kamara?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Jones. I feel safer with Kamara and PPR. Nonppr i'll take camara and ppr non-ppr it might be closer all right well that's where we're at on jones he's a must start so is antonio brown i didn't even look at your rankings but i'm assuming he's like top eight top five for me top five for who antonio brown maybe antonio brown is top 10. And Stark Gronkowski, sit Cam Newton, sit the Panthers running backs, but you guys would prefer in full PPR, you'd prefer Abdul over Hubbard? I guess.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I'd take Abdul over Hubbard. And then it's DJ Moore. If DJ Moore plays, Dave, where are you ranking DJ Moore? Low end number two receiver in full PPR, middle of the pack flex and non-PPR. This is weird.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I was looking at Brady's road games and he's been not great. Yeah. He had two big games at New Orleans and Atlanta, so I don't know if it matters indoors, outdoors, because he plays outdoors.
Starting point is 01:22:08 But 13 touchdowns, seven interceptions in his last five road games. And you take away in the three non-indoor games, at Philly, at Washington. Oh, no, I guess it doesn't matter. He played the Colts in there too. So forget the indoor-outdoor thing. But his last five road games. So two really big games and three really mediocre ones.
Starting point is 01:22:26 That's been the knock on his whole career. One was against the Patriots, which did a great job. No, that's not even in this. This is going back to just against Philadelphia. Right. Washington, he had a couple of turnovers against them. He's had a turnover in every game on the road. Yeah, I was going to make a joke.
Starting point is 01:22:43 It's been the knock on him in his whole career. He can't win on the road. Yeah, I was going to make a joke. It's been the knock on him in his whole career. He can't win on the road. This obviously can win anywhere, but I mean, it's interesting and not much else to say there. DJ Moore or Michael Pittman? Pittman. Pittman.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I don't think more plays. You don't think more plays. Okay, great. Well, that's going to mean I'm starting someone horrible against you. So Giants Eagles, our last game. more plays. Okay, great. Well, that's going to mean I'm starting someone horrible against you. Giants-Eagles.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Our last game. Barkley is the only giant worth talking about here. Who are the running backs you have ranked around? I'm assuming you're starting Javante Williams and Melvin Gordon over Barkley? Yes. I'm going to get to that point. I already had Javante over him. I'm going to get to that point. I already had Gervonta over him. I'm going to get to that point with Gordon.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I would start Barkley over Gordon in PPR because Barkley's still going to get five catches. Yeah. I don't know how effective he's going to be. He hasn't been efficient. Seems to be touchdown needy. He could always score. Like right now, I'm looking at my rankings,
Starting point is 01:23:43 and I had Gordon over him already. But now he's ahead of Mixon. I think that's close. He's ahead of Edwards-Hilaire. I'm coming around on Edwards-Hilaire, even in PPR. Damian Harris. I could see Harris having a much better game than Saquon. This is a tough matchup.
Starting point is 01:24:00 He's not playing as much as he has in the past. When he does play, he's taking an extra second to find his hole. He just isn't good, and this offense isn't good. That's an understatement about the offense. We'll see how they do with Jake Fromm. Fromm looked okay at the end of last week when he spelled Mike Glennon. Did they announce that Fromm is starting? Not yet, but that's what they should do.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Why would you start that stiff Lennon anymore? I don't think that they feel that Jake Fromm is prepared for that, just in terms of all the things you have to do. That's what I was getting. As Joe Judge said, well, yeah, it's one thing to go and do it in the two-minute drill. It's another thing to do it for the full game. So I think he just hasn't been on the team that long. That would be the only consideration I would, I would guess.
Starting point is 01:24:45 All right. So let's move on from the giants to the Eagles. What about, uh, Jalen hurts coming off this incredible game. Do you have any hesitation in starting hurts? I mean, I loved him last week, so no, no hesitation. And I did not love him as much last week. And he scored two rushing touchdowns to the pants me on that. I'm coming back to him this week against the giants.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Excellent matchup. One of the things that back to him this week against the Giants. Excellent matchup. One of the things that I looked up this week were off-target throws, just to see where Dak was. And Dak was high on off-target throws, but so were Brady and Stafford and Josh Allen. You know who's been on target over the last couple of weeks?
Starting point is 01:25:19 It's Jalen Hurts. Not against the Giants. I think it's like three off-target throws or something like that. What do you make of the fact that they were terrible against the Giants? And he was six fantasy points. And three interceptions in that game. I think you've got to count on him.
Starting point is 01:25:34 In the game, he hurt his ankle too? No. Might have been. I don't think so. I think you've got to count on him to rush for a touchdown. That's where it starts. Because I don't see him throwing three touchdowns. But I could see him throwing two, and then you hope that he gives you 50, 60 yards on the ground or a rushing
Starting point is 01:25:52 touchdown. That's the game he hurt his ankle. He placed through an ankle injury in that game. So if he came back, and he's healthy now, and I was worried about the ankle last week too. Clearly the Eagles coaching staff didn't care about that to let him go and pound in a couple of short yardage scores. I think he's got that generous upside that you're looking for from a running quarterback, and that's why he's a must. Jeff Kerr, one of our guys, NFL writers
Starting point is 01:26:13 at CBS. He does a great job on Twitter if you'd like some interesting stats. He just tweeted this 10 minutes ago that Jalen Hurts has a higher passer rating in the red zone, which is 100.5. I know you love these kind of stats, Adam. Higher passer rating in the red zone than Josh Allen, Matthew5. I know you love these kind of stats, Adam. Higher passer rating in the red zone than Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 01:26:30 And that's not including his nine rushing touchdowns in the red zone. Wow. All right, so just to wrap this game up, Hurts is a must start. Miles Sanders, if he plays, is a must start, right? Agreed, yes. And if Howard is in place of Miles Sanders,
Starting point is 01:26:41 he's a borderline must start. Yeah, dude, we're talking about a guy who's 25% rostered. Please go pick up Jordan Howard. And they, I didn't get a chance to look, but I do feel like they have given two running backs 10 or more carries in seven straight games. So, that might mean there's some flex appeal
Starting point is 01:26:56 to Howard or even Scott if Miles Sanders is out. Would you start a wide receiver for the Eagles? Or for any team in this game? No. Nope. I'd take McColl Hardman over anybody. And start Dallas Goddard. Would you start a wide receiver for the Eagles or for any team in this game? No. Nope. Okay. I'd take McCall Hardman over anybody. And start Dallas Goddard.
Starting point is 01:27:09 And thank you very much for listening. Merry Christmas, everybody. We will have a mailbag for you that airs on Saturday or Friday on youtube.com slash fantasy football today. Happy holidays. It's going to win. See you later.

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