Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC)! Brady? Zeke? Metcalf? (12/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: December 24, 2021Welcome back, A.J. Brown! We'll recap the 49ers-Titans with a focus on Brown's big game and the RBs for each team. Then we'll go over all of the news and notes (10:30). There is a lot! ... One Questio...n for Each Game (22:30)! Do we trust Dak Prescott and Tom Brady? Do Odell Beckham and Van Jefferson bounce back? We also have the Startometer (34:10) for Lions-Falcons, Giants-Eagles and Bucs-Panthers ... Start or Sit for Colts-Cardinals (39:00), Browns-Packers (45:30), Bears-Seahawks (50:00), Rams-Vikings (59:00), Football Team-Cowboys (1:06:00), Lions-Falcons (1:14:35), Bucs-Panthers (1:18:40) and Giants-Eagles (1:23:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On his way to the end zone.
Tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
What a play.
Off to the races.
Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
What a wonderful time of year. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football today.
It is Christmas Eve. What's going on? Oh man, I'm so cheery today, guys.
Are you feeling it? You in the holiday spirit?
I'm in the A.J. Brown spirit. Let's go.
Let's go.
He's the best kind of Santa Claus.
That was outstanding.
A.J. Brown coming through with a huge game.
See the final line here.
11 catches, 145 yards, and a touchdown.
Today on the show, we'll talk about that game.
That's not the best part.
What's the best part?
The targets are the best part.
Yeah.
I'm good with the catches and yards and touchdowns.
Just saying.
He had over 50% of the targets this game.
That's quite a share.
Today we got Indianapolis at Arizona,
Cleveland at Green Bay,
Chicago at Seattle,
the Rams in Minnesota with Alexander Madison in the spotlight.
Oh, I'm sorry.
What happened?
What I said yesterday. I don't remember what you said i said
about dropping alexander madison because what happens if dalgona gets covid i said that on the
air yeah literally i'm sorry i spoke into existence i apologize uh washington dallas
detroit atlanta the giants eagles and the and Panthers. We'll talk about are we good with Tom Brady, Saquon Barkley,
Miles Sanders.
We really probably might be.
Really probably might be.
That's good stuff.
Might be sleeping on the Eagles backfield, guys,
just to keep an eye on it because Boston Scott, Jordan Howard
are widely available, and Miles Sanders has been missing practice.
But all of the news and notes that you need.
But we'll start with Tennessee 20 and San Francisco 17.
After you tell me this, if you could just watch one Christmas movie, just one, what's
it going to be?
I mean, you know what we're going to say.
Exactly what we're going to say.
I have a different answer.
I think I've seen it too many times.
Seen what too many times?
Christmas Vacation.
That's not the answer.
No.
Oh, no, don't say Die Hard.
Come on.
That's so lame.
I was going to say Die Hard 2.
Oh, that's even labor.
Which Christmas movie would I watch multiple times?
Rocky IV.
Stop.
Get a real one.
I mean, the fight is on Christmas.
I think since you guys aren't giving real answers,
I think I'm going to go with Just Friends.
I think right now, it's not my favorite,
but I haven't seen it a million times like all the others.
So I think I'm going to take Just Friends.
Very good movie.
Of all the Christmas movies, that's the one?
Have you seen it, Dave?
No.
Oh, it's really good.
Oh, it's very funny.
It's not one of the classics.
It actually has become a modern classic.
It's really, really funny.
You should watch it.
All right, maybe I'll check it out.
Yeah.
All right, you guys can think about your answer.
It's easy.
What did you say, James?
Home Alone.
Home Alone's a great one.
I like Christmas Vacation.
Yeah, it's hard to beat.
But Die Hard's easily number one.
Sure.
Eye roll. All right, Tennessee 20. We're going to Die Hard is easily number one. Sure. Eye roll.
All right, Tennessee 20.
We're going to do top five list on the show today, on the mailbag show.
I told Schneier top five Christmas movies, but that's just not his thing.
So it's something else.
I can't remember, but we'll talk Christmas on the mailbag show.
All right, Tennessee 20 and San Francisco 17.
So, you know, it was an interesting game
in the sense that everyone but Kittle
at least got something.
I mean, Foreman saved his bacon with a touchdown
and Wilson had the touchdown,
but Dave Kittle,
yeah, bad game for him.
I don't know if there's much else to say.
It happens sometimes.
He had three targets on the first two drives of the game.
It looked like he was going to be just as involved
and just as much of that huggy bear for Jimmy Garoppolo
as he had been the past three weeks.
And then after the interception in the end zone, he was done.
There was literally no targets for George Kittle the rest of the game.
And he was double covered a lot.
The broadcast showed it.
And so it turned into a Debo night because of it,
but just absolutely crazy that they weren't scheming stuff up for Kittle,
that they weren't using him.
They didn't try again in the red zone to Kittle.
It was very frustrating.
The Kittle play in the end zone changed the game.
Yes.
Because if they were touched on that drive, the game's probably over,
the way that Tennessee looked in the first half.
I think it was the second Garoppolo interception that changed
the game.
They get points on that drive. It's a totally
different ballgame. How about the use check
play? This was a
horrible game for Garoppolo.
Yeah, but that goes
both ways. The Titans should have got a pass interference call on the first
downfield throw to A.J. Brown.
Do we have any major takeaways from
this game? Anything to look at going forward?
AJ Brown's back.
That's a great takeaway.
Could be someone who helps you crush it in the next two weeks.
Obviously, this last week he did.
I think I would be running the other direction of Jeff Wilson
if he wasn't playing Houston next week.
If he's the guy, because they think Elijah Mitchell's going to be back.
That's the other thing.
Like, if Elijah Mitchell's back, then no question,
Elijah Mitchell's going to be the guy.
But if Mitchell is out next week, then I think Wilson goes,
I think he'll be even higher in our rankings against Houston.
Might be a top 15 running back, because that defense is so bad.
But he didn't look great.
Foreman didn't have it going on.
He had one long run that was called back by a penalty.
And I think the Titans knew it, and they weren't using him much in the fourth quarter.
It was a lot of Jeremy McNichols and not as much of Foreman and even less of Dontrell Hilliard.
But it was an ugly three-way split where they were playing the hot hand.
And they weren't trying to force it with Foreman.
The fact that Foreman scored is like by the grace of God that
he got the opportunity to even get in there because the play before he was not on the field
for a short yardage play. So neither running back in this game was particularly good. And the only
reason why we'd start one of them moving forward is because of the matchup. And these are, I think now we can say,
these are two great run defenses.
And Zach Cunningham, IDP by the way,
Zach Cunningham added to the Titans only helps.
I think last thing here is Iyuk.
Jamie, I felt like he got a little lucky.
I think Debo was off the field when he caught his touchdown, right?
I mean, Debo was a little shaken up.
He was, yeah.
But I mean, that's part of why he was open, too,
is that I think the Titans were kind of in a little bit of a scramble defense
at that point.
It was, yeah.
First off, he got off to a good start on the first drive.
Another big play in the game was the fourth and sixth call
that Garoppolo missed Ayuk.
And if you want to go back and watch, in the background of the play,
Kyle Shanahan's reaction
um when they missed it and the broadcast brought up um that iuk might have cut off his route a
little too short which is where garoppolo thought he was throwing uh the other part of it obviously
is that garoppolo missed him wide open and so this is why they drafted trey lance uh but in any event
bad play and uh cost iuk a few yards yeah and i just think that you have to look at game script
with iuk.
He just doesn't get a lot of targets unless they're losing
and throwing a lot and giving up points.
Is that going to be the case next week against Houston?
Probably not.
He had half of his targets and catches on the first two drives of the game too.
I thought he was setting up to have a huge game.
Yep.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm always thinking about what am i going to
bring up on the show and i'll just say that i at one point in the first quarter i was going to bring
up man what are trey lance dynasty managers thinking right now because garoppolo is really
grooving and then i think you know you see it's the opposite now let's not take away what he's
been the last eight games or so he's's been terrific, but he can struggle sometimes.
It's a good defense.
It's a short week on the road.
I mean, you know, next week he'll come out and light up the Texans
if they allow him to.
Okay.
We've got some things to promote.
We've got a mailbag coming up.
You can see that Friday afternoon.
If you're not around on Christmas,
you can see that Friday afternoon on YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today.
We also have CBS Sports HQ on Sunday, 10 a.m. Eastern.
Make sure you check it out, CBS Sports HQ,
10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern on Sunday to help you set your lineup.
Now, guys, I was wondering if you would indulge me.
I wrote a little Christmas poem for our fantasy football managers.
And I'm feeling very vulnerable, so even if you don't like it, just pretend.
I was about to walk out of the room.
It's a new concept. It's called Twas the Day Before Christmas. Totally different than
the other thing you know about.
I'm glad that the first two-thirds of the
start of this podcast is all about Christmas
and one-third
was about football.
Thank you for setting this up
in a good way, Dave. Okay, here we go. This is actually about
football. Twas the day this up in a good way, Dave. Okay, here we go. This is actually about football.
Oh, good.
Twas the day before Christmas and all through my league,
fantasy managers wrestled with waiver wire fatigue.
I need a tight end and RB2 would be great,
but all that I see are Burkhead and Brait.
I'm setting my lineups and sitting my homes
while adding Gabe Davis and writing these poems.
I can't trust Tom Brady after last week's showing.
My starters are shrinking.
My IR is growing.
I've got Chubb and Kamara.
My team's trending up, but my opponent has Adams and Taylor and Kupp.
I'm facing Herbert, the secondary slayer.
Let's see if I can find some better players.
I'll scour the wire for free agents to add and finally set a lineup that isn't half bad.
When what to my wondering eyes should appear?
DJ Moore, a game time decision.
Oh, dear.
Hey, Austin Eckler, are you in?
Are you out?
I need you on Sunday for my semifinal bout.
My lineup with you in it would make my opponent quite jelly,
but without you, it would look like it's Joshua Kelly.
So tomorrow, we'll rush to the tree for our gifts
and watch some TV as Baker Mayfield throws picks.
The Browns and the Packers, the Colts and the Cards.
Am I really starting Alan Lazard?
A week 16 win would be the best gift of all Colts and the Cards. Am I really starting Alan Lazard?
A week 16 win would be the best gift of all.
On to the finals of fantasy football.
I hope you're victorious.
I hope your team doesn't suck.
Merry Christmas to all and to all good luck.
Thank you.
All right.
Can you write Dave a poem for the next Miller Lite commercial too?
I can try.
I can try.
All right.
News and notes. They have to move us into town and all through the house.
Dalvin Cook is out.
So, you know, one of our emailers brought up a good point.
Sometimes, I wish I had a more complete list of this.
Sometimes players coming off the COVID list really struggle.
Rogers comes to mind
big time. Beckham, I don't know
if that was COVID related or not, but he got
three targets, I think. But Madison
is coming off the COVID list, and he's
also facing a great
Rams run defense, something like three
yards per carry in their last seven games.
I don't remember the stat exactly, to running
backs. Are we
as in on Madison as we would be ordinarily?
I think you have to be.
Obviously, there's risk, like you said.
There's a good defense, like you said.
I think you've been hearing just a lot of nice things about Noagnew
and the things he's been doing for their team,
clearly on special teams,
but they're kind of excited, I think, to see what he has to offer. So there may be a little bit more of a split than
we're used to seeing whenever Cook is not there, but I mean, I'll buy into the track record of
what Alexander Madison has been and what they've done with him when there hasn't been Dalvin Cook
there. So huge opportunity. Yeah. Tough matchup, but I'm treating him the same way I've treated
him whenever Cook hasn't been there, which is basically like Dalvin Cook.
So, must start running back.
Okay.
Amari Cooper wants more red zone targets.
Time for the squeaky crickets.
Yeah.
Let's go, Amari Cooper.
He scored last time he faced them.
He has a great track record against Washington, too.
13 or more PPR points in five straight games against them.
So, should have another big performance as well.
And thanks to you a few weeks ago, Jamie,
I know now how to look that up very easily.
Yep.
The last five function on the player page.
Lamar Jackson mispracticed, so right now we are not ranking him.
Justin Fields mispracticed with an ankle injury.
Are you guys concerned that Justin Fields may not play?
Yes.
Yeah.
Would that be good or bad for Darnell Mooney if it's Dalton?
Probably better from a target standpoint.
I think the matchup's tough either way.
The matchup's tough either way?
Sure.
But I think it's a tough matchup either way.
Cam Akers was designated to return.
Dave, what do we make of this?
Should we pick up Cam Akers?
I mean, we can probably stash him on IR,
but do you think he makes a contribution?
If you have the IR spot and it won't hurt to pick up Akers,
go ahead and do it.
But I'd be surprised.
Five months removed from an Achilles surgery,
that he's going to be himself again, that he's going to have a
real role again, it would just be a shock. I'm not expecting it. Yeah, this I think is more a
playoff move for them. Yeah. Taysom Hill, Trevor Simeon on the COVID list. Backup offensive tackle
Jordan Mills is on the COVID list. He's been a starter lately because their two tackles have
been out. And safety Malcolm Jenkins on the reserve COVID list. He's been a starter lately because their two tackles have been out. And safety Malcolm Jenkins
on the reserve COVID list.
So it looks like Ian Book
is going to start for the Saints.
Are the Dolphins your number one DST this week?
Yep.
Number two.
Who's number one?
Who's number one?
Who's that, Philly?
Eagles.
Yeah.
Yes, I did get an email this morning.
Eagles or Dolphins DST?
I said, that's probably the number one and two.
So take your pick. That's number one and two. So take your pick.
That's number one and two.
Hard to have a...
Dave, your audio is cutting out a little bit.
I don't know if there's anything we can do about that.
I can see what I can do about it.
All right.
That's weird.
DeAndre Swift was limited in practice.
Are you guys ranking DeAndre Swift yet?
Yeah, he's a top 20 running back.
I'm a little concerned about what the split will be
between him and Craig Reynolds and Jamal Williams.
But the matchup's great.
So as long as he's 100% healthy,
I think he's easily the best one.
It's just a matter of who you're comparing him to.
And we will do that later.
Adam Thielen was limited.
And are you ranking Adam Thielen? Not yet.
No. And you've got to be a little concerned about him coming back a little too soon from the
high ankle sprain. Ramondre Stevenson mispracticed again with the illness. Damian Harris was limited.
So if they both play, I think, you know, it's not super appealing. But Dave, if Harris plays and Stevenson is out against the good run defense,
I don't think Starla Tulale has been practicing, though,
which is a big deal for the Bills.
You know, where would you rank Damian Harris?
Would you rank him ahead of, let's say, DeAndre Swift?
Dave walked away, so I'll answer that one for him.
Would I rank Damian Harris ahead of DeAndre Swift in non-PPR?
Yes. In PPR, no.
Half PPR? Damien Harris ahead of DeAndre Swift in non-PPR? Yes. In PPR, no. Half PPR?
Damien Harris.
Alright. Tyler Lockett and Alex Collins are back. Cleveland center
JC Tretter's on the reserve COVID list. Alright. James
I'm going to fly through it here. James
Connor is confident he will play on
Saturday. We'll give you the scenarios if
he's in and he's out when we look at that game
later. Miles Sanders, Jamie,
he missed practice.
So, yeah, how seriously should we be taking this here?
What an opportunity that Howard and Scott,
and Scott scores every time he plays the Giants, would have.
It's a great call on Scott, yeah.
I think Sanders has to be out for Scott to be involved. But it's certainly something to keep on your radar
going into the weekend.
It's so tough to gauge because of the Tuesday game.
I would imagine that they're making sure he's 100% healthy and resting him because of that.
But it could be that he's actually legitimately hurt because he didn't finish the game against Washington on Tuesday.
So it's just something to keep in mind.
But yeah, if Jordan Howard is available and you have an open roster spot, pick him up now.
Okay, Dave, I'll throw it to you.
Are you there? I'm here it to you. You there?
I'm here.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
So Jordan Howard, I just asked you, DeAndre, well, I asked Jamie.
Jamie answered as you had left.
DeAndre Swift, if he plays versus Damian Harris, if Stevenson were out.
Now, how about Jordan Howard if Miles Sanders were out?
How would he rank against those two players?
I think he'd be behind them both.
I like Swift.
I love the matchup against Atlanta.
That run defense has really started to take a nosedive.
They've allowed 90 total yards to a running back in six of their last eight games.
And I think Swift will be the main running back for Detroit.
If there's news out there about him being limited, that would change things.
But Howard's going to split
and I know that he could be the primary
back for Philadelphia, but
that still might be 55%
of the snaps. So I'd
be more encouraged by Harris
without Stevenson than I would be
Howard without Sanders.
And if Sanders were out, you guys would have Howard ahead
of Boston Scott or would you give that
Giants bump to Boston Scott?
That's true.
Howard ahead.
Howard ahead.
Okay.
Agreed.
All right.
Let's see.
We've got
David Johnson missing practice.
Emmanuel Sanders practicing.
We'll see if he's able to play.
Baker Mayfield has not been cleared yet.
So he's got one day now.
He's playing tomorrow.
Jarvis Landry and Jedrick Wills
are expected to play this week.
Jedrick Wills, their offensive tackle.
Landry, of course, their wide receiver.
Defensively, the Jets have five starters out
right now on the reserve COVID list.
And the Ravens have nine defensive players.
Not all starters, but nine defensive players.
Kansas City getting a little bit healthier,
activating Chris Jones and cornerback Traverius Ward.
Indianapolis center Ryan Kelly is out for personal reasons.
He's a pro bowler.
We still expect him to run the ball well.
Did you know Kirk Cousins was on the injury report
for the first time as a Viking?
Wow, ribs?
Yep.
He's off now, but that was the first time.
Iron Man.
Yeah.
Chicago defensive tackle
Akeem Hicks
is on the reserve COVID list.
Their best run stuffer,
I would say,
at Seattle.
Washington linebacker
Cole Holcomb
on the COVID list.
Green Bay activated
their best defensive lineman,
Kenny Clark.
Levante David
and Leonard Fournette
are on IR.
And two games without Levante David,
the Bucs really actually struggled against the run.
It was the Eagles game.
Not a lot of carries for Sanders, but very efficient.
And then a Cleo Herbert had 100 yards without Levante David.
And this is also cool.
If the Packers and Chiefs get the top seeds
in their respective conferences,
it will be the first time that two teams have repeated
as conference
champs since 1982 and 1983. It's been almost 40 years since we have seen the same conference
champs. And I just want to share one more thing on the holidays here. I didn't read this quote
a couple of weeks ago, but I meant to. But Rashad Penny talked about his career a few weeks ago as
he emerged after that Houston game. And what really got to him early in his career
was negativity on social media.
He was very interested.
He didn't block it out and it really got to him.
And he said, quote,
at the end of the day, I'm still human
and everybody else who gets hurt
and goes on social media and looks their name up
and sees what people are saying about them,
it can be the worst thing possible
and it can tear somebody down.
That's what it did to me a few years ago. but now it's just like you're numb to it.
And I would like to tell everybody out there to please not be mean to athletes on social
media or anyone.
It's just not worth it.
You feel good about yourself because you're venting, and you hate Rashad Penny because
he got hurt and all that.
Come on.
Let's grow up and be better.
We don't need to do that.
I've got to tell you, I've had an interesting week on Twitter
because I tweeted something about football, about fantasy,
in regards to when the Chiefs had both their players put on the COVID list.
And probably poor choice of using the word we
because I was thinking of our audience mostly.
But I said the NFL needs to move the Steelers-Chiefs game.
We need Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill for Week 16.
And it's been a wave of different fan bases.
I've never seen anything like it.
Just like, you know, saying I'm stupid and that the NFL didn't do this for other teams.
And, you know, so as a Packers fan saying that this didn't happen when they played the Cardinals without Rodgers.
I think it was Cardinals without Rodgers or this year.
Now, what was the game that Chiefs played?
Chiefs that Rodgers Steelers fans, obviously, because that's their opponent.
Patriots fans.
But it's been like a wave of different fan bases.
So it's like must be making its way around to different places.
And it's continuing.
Like it wasn't just one day.
Like I woke up this morning to about 50 Packers tweets in regards to that.
It's amazing just how people think like, you know,
you say whatever you want to.
And it's fine.
I'm used to it, you know, doing this for, you know, over 15 years.
But it's just funny how you know things get taken
out of context too like i'm not a chief fan by any i was telling you i was like i was like you
wouldn't believe you know take take take two minutes and go down the rabbit hole of that tweet
and just look what people have said yeah we can be better we can be better society all right uh
yeah beat beat the waiver wire i i didn't really go through this i just looked at
the some of the players from the tuesday show this is really we don't have to do it you're
going to be facing one other person but uh ricky seals jones maybe if he gets back in the action
and gets his up his snap count up and he's got the eagles next week cole comet against the giants
if anybody dropped the patriots facing the bills this week and tough matchup last week take a look
at them they have the jaguars, maybe the Saints against Carolina.
You just never know who's going to be healthy, who's going to be in.
The Seahawks. Seahawks against Detroit next week.
You could take a look at them for a little beat the waiver wire.
And maybe, I don't know, quarterback was tough.
Justin Fields at the Giants was the only one I had.
But I don't even know if that's such a great matchup.
All right, guys, let's get to one question for each game.
Jared Patterson's another one,
just in case Antonio Gibson still injuries problem.
Yeah, good call.
He has turf, though.
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah, but I mean, is he going to play through?
Is he going to sit?
Because if he sits this week, you want to have him now.
All right, Indianapolis at Arizona.
If James Conner plays,
do you start a Cardinals running back
against a very good run defense?
Dave?
I would be nervous to do so.
There was a 50-50 split pretty much
between the two of them last week.
And I started the week liking James Conner
and then the fact that he's missed more practice
with this heel injury.
Easy to move him down outside of the top 24
along with Edmonds.
They're back-to-back in my rankings as flex guys.
Okay, Cleveland, Green Bay.
Jamie, who is this?
Well, you got the other side of it, though.
What happens if Connor sits?
Oh, okay, go ahead.
I mean, Edmonds has top 15 upside.
Where would you rank him?
Would you rank him in the top 15?
Around there, yeah.
I'd be lower, but I get it. I just, I do believe in this Colts run defense. I think they're very good. Yeah, no. I'd be lower, but I get it.
I do believe in this Colts run defense.
I think they're very good.
Yeah, no, I agree.
But I also believe in one guy on this backfield, I think,
has proven to be pretty special.
Connor better than Edmonds in that role,
but I think Edmonds is going to have a big opportunity in front of him.
Sure.
And so many catches for whichever running back,
if it were just one guy.
All right, so, well, that's our first game,
so we'll get into that.
Cleveland Green Bay.
Jamie, who is the second best wide receiver in this game?
Jarvis Landry.
You know, the only thing I wonder about Landry is,
you know, he doesn't really make a lot of big plays,
and that's what the Packers have been giving up lately,
a ton of them.
Well, I don't know if he's going to be
the best player receiver in this game
because we still have the quarterback situation.
So, you know, if it's Baker, then it's Landry.
If it's not Baker, you can make a strong case for Lazard unless it's MVS.
So there's just, you know, by the time people are listening to this,
it could be dramatically different for both these teams.
So right now, I would still take Landry.
If I had to start somebody from this game, I would start Landry second. Jair Alexander, not expected to play. Go could be dramatically different for both these teams. So right now, I would still take Landry. If I had to start somebody from this game,
I would start Landry second.
Jair Alexander is not expected to play. Go ahead, Dave.
I would say that the second best receiver
in this game is on the Packers.
If MVS plays,
then it's him. If he doesn't play, it's Lazard.
Is that assuming
Baker's out?
Yeah. I don't care if Baker plays or not.
I would still take lazard over
jarvis landry landry's the floor play he's 10 or 11 ppr points but i i think that this is a big
big game for the packers overall with the browns playing on tuesday and then on saturday they got
squeezed there are uh two monday monday to saturday sorry Two deep sleepers if you're looking at it. How the Packers
might replace MVS.
If they don't move
Lazard back outside fully
then I think
Equinami of St. Brown's in play. He's coming
back from being on the concussion protocol.
If they do move Lazard
outside then your boy becomes interesting
at him. So for
anybody playing BFS in the showdown
lineups or you can play a two-game lineup,
Amari Rogers is
in play too. This is why I drafted him
for week 16.
I stashed him the
whole year. Chicago, Seattle.
Who's a better flex, Dave Richard?
Rashad, Penny, or DK Metcalf?
I feel a little
bit better about Penny than Metcalf
because Lockett's back, Akeem Hicks is out.
So the matchup gets better for Penny.
I know he's still going to split with somebody else in that backfield,
whether it's DJ Dallas or whoever.
But Tyler Lockett being back just means that
Russell Wilson has his number one receiver back.
That's the receiver that he trusts the most,
connects with the most on downfield throws.
And I would say that DK Metcalf has devolved
into a touchdown-needy receiver
who gets end zone opportunities
and just doesn't come up with them,
whether it's Russ's fault or his fault.
Is his fault? His fault.
I love Lockett this week coming back.
Hopefully he's okay.
And I think Penny probably is safer than Metcalf.
I think DK Metcalf scores this week.
I want to be so bold and say this is what happens.
And this is why people get so mad at players in particular.
And probably why some people are mad at AJ Brown last night.
Where was this during my regular season?
You caused me to play. I know. Where was this during my regular season? You cost me the playoffs.
I know.
Where's this been for the last month?
We could say this every week about DK.
That's what I'm saying, though.
You're going to get a lot of people like that
because they're out of it or got eliminated last week.
Sure, but we were going to say that about DK
no matter when he scored.
If he had scored last week,
if he had scored when he had three end zone targets
two weeks ago,
he would have said it then.
Did either Penny or Metcalf crack your top 20?
Metcalf is still close, and Penny is closer to 24.
I was concerned about Penny before the Hicks absence.
So with Hicks now gone, before Hicks was absent.
With Hicks now gone, I think Penny's definitely a safer play. You might be surprised
to know that even with Hicks in their lineup, the Bears were allowing, in games just that he played,
and not including the game he played one snap, four and a half yards per carry to running backs.
Some very good performances, but also some pretty bad ones. And so he's unlikely to play anyway.
But what was the last thing I was going to say? Oh, the Bears secondary. It's still completely depleted by COVID.
So we'll see if those guys make it back.
Rams Vikings.
Do Van Jefferson and Odell Beckham bounce back against the team that gives up the most fantasy points to wide receivers, Jamie?
Yes.
To what extent, I don't know.
But they bounce back.
One of them will certainly have a good game.
DK Metcalf or Van Jefferson or Odell Beckham?
I have Metcalf ranked ahead of them will certainly have a good game. DK Metcalf or Van Jefferson or Odell Beckham? I have Metcalf ranked ahead of them, so.
I don't.
I've got Odell ahead.
Okay.
I believe I have Odell, Metcalf, Van,
and it's really close between.
No, I've got.
I do have Metcalf ahead of Odell and then Van.
Washington, Dallas.
How much confidence do you have in the Dallas passing game?
Dave, how much confidence do you have in the Dallas passing game? Dave, how much confidence do you have in the
Cowboys passing game?
It's waning because
Dak hasn't played well, really.
He's had a couple of good games since he got
hurt, but the last
couple of weeks, he's not taking chances downfield.
He's off target on a bunch of throws.
He's not throwing deep
nearly as much as the same thing as not
taking chances downfield.
Worth reiterating. I think the Cowboys are running the ball a little bit better and they're
leaning on their defense a little bit more.
Okay.
I kind of love Dak this week.
Boy,
I think you've,
you've got faith in that calf.
You got faith in Dak.
Yeah.
Well,
much more faith in Dak than Metcalf.
Dak,
you know,
I think we lose sight of the fact that the Cowboys just played three straight games on the road.
That's a very difficult stretch
for any team.
His track record at home is amazing. He's averaging
27.5 fantasy points at home this year.
No game under 22 points.
And you want to talk about a short week, you have
Washington back-to-back road games
after playing on Tuesday.
This is a tired group that's down
Cole Holcomb, that's down other guys still on the defensive line.
I think Dak's going to light them up.
And let me just check on William Jackson.
They are expecting to get Kendall Fuller back, though.
Okay, well, they did lose William Jackson.
I don't think those guys are legit difference makers.
No, no, but I think, for me,
I'm looking at what Cooper does in this matchup.
I think C.D. Lamb's been a little unlucky.
I think he's going to go off.
There's always who's the third guy that's going to contribute,
and I think it'll be one of Dalton Schultz or Michael Gallup.
So I think Dak's going to have a big game.
I think he's going to remind people who he is.
Detroit at Atlanta.
Can you trust any Lions if Jared Goff doesn't play, Dave?
DeAndre Swift I would trust.
I think I would trust.
I think I'd trust St. Brown to a degree,
but he'd be more in the flex range,
even in PPR.
I'm legit worried about the passing offense with Tim Boyle under center.
Oh, I hope it's David Blau
so we can sing the Mr. Blau song.
Giants-Eagles,
start or sit Saquon Barkley, Jamie?
Start with hesitation. Rash Saquon Barkley, Jamie? Start with
hesitation.
Rashad Penny or Barkley?
Still Barkley.
But there was, I think, Zach Rosenblatt
of NewJersey.com wrote a
story about how Devontae Booker
has looked better and needs more opportunities.
I mean, I agree
with the first part of that, but no, he does not
need more opportunities.
I'm serious.
They're playing for nothing.
What are you going to do?
You're going to learn about Devante Booker?
No.
Do you want to get Barkley injured?
I mean, he's getting opportunities.
I mean, that's the thing.
Barkley is not like Barkley's getting 20 carries,
but this is such a bad matchup now.
The Eagles, we'll get into it a little bit later,
but they dominate time of possession.
It's 35 or more minutes in five of their last seven games,
and their run defense has gotten great again,
but they actually didn't do well in time of possession
against the Giants.
They actually lost to the Giants, so a little revenge.
And finally, Tampa Bay Carolina.
Dave, are we good with Tom Brady?
I'm okay with Brady.
I think he'll be fine if he's got Antonio Brown
and Rob Gronkowski.
You think about what his upside is
when he's got all of his receiving threats.
Even when he's got half of his receiving threats,
it's still better than what a lot of other teams
around the league have.
There's not as much upside.
That's the problem.
For Brady, you're right. But I still
think he can get you 250 and two
pretty easily. He probably could.
You know, like the only question
I think people might have if you had to make this choice
is I would start Huntley over Brady.
I'm not there.
I'll take Brady over Huntley. I think he's just a little safer.
He's definitely safer.
What encourages me
more also about Brady,
it's not just Brown being back and Gronk being there,
and I think Gronk bounces back from a bad game last week.
If Fournette were healthy, I'd be a little nervous about Tampa Bay
just saying, all right, well, we can be balanced on offense
and we can just lean on Fournette.
But he's not playing.
Rojo is.
There's always the chance that Ronald Jones doesn't deliver
to our expectations.
And I don't think Ronald Jones necessarily takes over the game for Tampa Bay.
I think he'll be good for Tampa Bay.
I think he can score.
But we know that he's not going to be a huge part of the passing game for Tampa Bay.
And ultimately, I think it'll be Brady who does what he usually does against Carolina,
even without Evans and Godwin
I guess I I would maybe take a counter approach and say that Jones is worse for Brady than Fournette
for exactly what you said I totally agree Fournette it was their third leading receiver
and Jones actually I mean small sample for him but he's more yards per carry than Fournette
which I wouldn't care about except he did the the same thing last year. I think he's going to be fine running the ball.
We'll see.
They're about getting wins at this point.
They're looking to the postseason.
Sure. So why would they try
and get wins with their Hall of Fame quarterback
when they've got...
However it unfolds. I mean, Brady
could obviously have a big game. That goes without saying.
But I think they're going to come out and try
and establish a run. And if Jones gets off to a good start, that's what they'll stick with. If he doesn't, then they'll go to Brady. But I think they're going to come out and try and establish a run. And if Jones gets
off to a good start, that's what they'll stick with. If he doesn't, then they'll go
to Brady. But I think they're going to get off to a good start because teams
are running this opponent. I think it's entirely possible
that all the Bucs do well in this game
too. Just because Carolina turns
the ball over a bunch on offense.
I think their defense is a little overrated at this
point in the year. Do you think Tyler Johnson
is a decent sleeper in, you know,
Lazard or Johnson?
Lazard for me. I think
Johnson's not bad as
a floor play in DFS.
10 PPR points.
There's also the chance if Perryman gets
off the COVID list, then it's a little bit more
messy. Alright, time for the
start-o-meter here for the last three games we're going to
talk about just in case this runs into
Christmas. Detroit at Atlanta, start-o-meter here for the last three games we're going to talk about just in case this runs into Christmas. Detroit at Atlanta, start-o-meter for Jared Goff if he plays. Jamie, you can start
with that. Four. DeAndre Swift. Ten. Eight in PPR, six in non-PPR. If Swift is out, Jamal Williams or Craig Reynolds?
Reynolds.
I'll say Reynolds, but I just
don't know what the coaches are thinking. They might go right
back to Williams because
he's the experienced guy.
I don't think it's going to be messy. I think
you're going to see all three guys in there because I don't think Swift
is 100%. You're going to get
Reynolds touching the ball. You're going to get Williams for whatever
extent. You've got to play Swift if you have him,
but I just worry where the ceiling is if he doesn't score.
And certainly the quarterback situation is different.
Do they still feature him?
Remember, when he left, these receivers were doing nothing.
Yeah.
Now he's back, and these guys are doing significantly much better.
They found their receiving core.
Still no Hawkinson.
So, you know, obviously that helps with the time.
Cause you could,
you could say,
if you could say that Swift coming back hurts,
hurts a monitor,
St.
Brown.
It absolutely could.
Right.
I think it does.
All right.
So,
so I'm having Tim Boyle under center hurts them too.
Like this is a completely different world than what Swift had when he was
healthy.
Yeah.
I just don't think I'd have the guts to start St.
Brown with if it's Boyle.
I mean,
yeah. How about you guys? I'm looking to take the under on his player props. Yeah, I just don't think I'd have the guts to start St. Brown if it's Boyle. I get it.
Yeah, how about you guys?
I'm looking to take the under on his player props.
I have to start him in one league, but if you can avoid it, it might be a good idea.
We'll see.
Let's go to Atlanta on the start-o-meter.
Matt Ryan.
I think he's like a six.
I'm starting to warm up to him a little bit.
He's in the same range as Goff,
so I'll say four.
He just doesn't throw very much,
and I don't think he'll have to if they're winning this game.
He doesn't throw very much.
It's weird.
Cordero Patterson.
Ten.
Eight.
Mike Davis.
Minus eight.
He's a four.
If they're winning,
he's going to have a decent opportunity to play well.
Russell Gage.
Ten.
He's an eight in PPR.
Seven and nine.
And Kyle Pitts.
Six.
Giants-Eagles.
He looked better last week again.
He's starting to trend in the right direction. And he's taking on Detroit. Oh, such a good matchup. Giants-Eagles? He looked better last week again. He's starting to trend in the right direction,
and he's taking on Detroit.
Oh, such a good matchup.
Giants-Eagles, Saquon Barkley.
Six.
Yeah, I'd probably have him ranked as if he were a seven right now,
and I think I'm going to sink him.
Okay.
No other Giants, right?
No.
I would give the rest of the Giants a collective four.
Okay.
I'd go lower than that.
Jalen Hurts.
Ten.
I missed the name.
Who'd you say?
Jalen Hurts, yeah.
Ten.
Miles Sanders, if he plays.
Ten.
Nine.
Would you rather start Jordan Howard or Mike Davis
if Miles Sanders plays?
Howard.
Howard.
Jordan Howard or Saquon Barkley?
Well, I'd say I'd start Davis and PPR with Howard.
Howard or Barkley?
Yes.
If Sanders is out?
No.
Sanders is in.
No, Barkley.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, you're probably going to get 10 carries from Jordan Howard for about 55 yards.
That's going to be a tougher matchup for him, but I'll still take it. Yeah.
I think you guys can tell I'm very down on Saquon Barkley.
What else?
Oh, Devontae Smith.
Three.
Yeah, so tough to trust.
Unfortunate.
Dallas Goddard.
Ten.
Goddard or Pitts?
Goddard.
Goddard.
Tampa Bay at Carolina.
Brady?
Six.
Seven.
Rojo?
10.
Eight.
Antonio Brown?
10.
Yeah, 10.
Rob Gronkowski, 15.
69.
Yeah, he would say that.
Cam Newton, you would?
Like a three.
Okay.
Amir Abdullah or anyone else other than DJ Moore?
Abdullah's interesting.
DJ Moore might not play.
Abdullah, I'll say three in PPR.
Chuba Hubbard?
Remember I told you about Levante David.
That makes it much worse.
Okay.
Yeah.
Both those running backs are a three for me.
Oh, my gosh.
Robbie would be like a really impressive four if there was no DJ Moore.
I would actually like to see them feature Terrace Marshall if Moore doesn't play,
just to see what they have.
I don't know if they think
he's ready.
And if DJ
Moore plays, what'd you say about Robbie?
A four? If DJ
Moore's out. I'm sorry, yeah, if he's out,
my bad. Maybe even a
five, like a whole five. Okay.
All right. So
let's
go. We got eight games and we're at 40 minutes.
Good luck to us.
Indianapolis and Arizona.
We'll keep it simple here.
Sit Wentz.
If you disagree with me, please, if I say anything wrong,
I'm just going to try to get it along.
Sit Wentz, start Taylor.
Start or sit Michael Pittman?
I like him.
Dave, you do seem to like him this week. Why?
I think that he bounces back after last week.
I don't want to focus so much on what happened to the Colts passing game last week.
Because Wentz only threw 12 times. They didn't have to do it.
It was a short-ish week for them.
He had at least eight targets in his prior two games.
That includes a game they won 31-0 over Houston.
So a game where you'd think the game script would be completely away
from passing the football, still had eight targets.
Arizona's allowed five touchdowns to wide receivers in their last two games,
19 to the wide receiver position all season,
three wide receivers with at least 75 yards in their last two.
I think they're changing.
I don't think that they're as tough of a pass defense as they were earlier
in this year where we were scared of number one receivers
against them. I don't think
Wentz cares about that stat. I think
Wentz just likes to find Pittman
and that's his go-to guy in the passing game.
Okay.
Would you start
Michael Pittman or Christian Kirk?
Kirk by a mile.
I'll start Pittman. What do you think? Kirk by a mile.
I'll start Pittman.
What do you think about Kirk against a team that gives up the second fewest yards
to slot receivers and has
one of the best slot cornerbacks
in football in Kenny Moore?
Well, is Kirk going to be exclusively in the slot?
I'm not sure if he was exclusive last week.
No, but it's a pretty high percentage.
He's a different kind of slot guy.
I think he's going to have so many targets in a game where they could be chasing points.
I love the setup for him.
Okay.
He's a number two receiver for me, especially in PPR.
And how do you feel about A.J. Green?
High end number three receiver.
Both these guys are seeing A-plus targets, so i'll take my chances with that so if both
running backs play for the cardinals who do you like better connor connor slightly but i'm so
concerned that he's not going to finish the game if he starts and last week he did have two catches
to zero for chase edmunds so even if edmunds you know runs more routes and whatnot it's still
it's not like before when he had almost no catches,
something like five catches
in the first eight games of the season.
He's probably going to be a little more involved.
So that hurts Edmonds.
If they both play,
would you start both Christian Kirk and A.J. Green
over a Cardinals running back?
Yes.
Kirk's the easy one to say yes to on that.
I think I would take a running back over A.J. Green.
All right, now let's say Conner's out.
Would you start Edmonds, the same question,
Edmonds or Kirk in that scenario?
Edmonds.
I think I'd go Kirk.
Edmonds if Conner's out or DeAndre Swift?
Swift. Edmonds if Conor's out or DeAndre Swift? Swift.
Edmonds.
All right.
Edmonds or Sonny Michel if Conor's out?
Edmonds.
Feels closer.
Definitely feels closer, but I think I'd go Sonny.
Get to Kyler Murray in a second.
Zach Ertz looks like a must-start this week.
He's top five for you guys.
The Colts have allowed 67 yards or a touchdown to a tight end
in six of their last seven games.
Jamie has Zach Ertz in one of our matchups,
so I'm not looking forward to that.
Kyler Murray.
All right, last two games, 17 points against the Rams,
but he did have 61 rushing yards,
but only 14 points at Detroit in his one game without Hopkins.
Murray or Brady?
Brady.
Murray.
How much faith do you have in Murray this week, Jamie?
Moderate faith.
Top six quarterback.
Top seven quarterback.
I have him seventh, and I'm thinking about moving him down.
He just did not look good each of the last two games.
Really was off for most of the game against Detroit.
Did start to get going late.
That's where he started to throw better, and Kirk had his touchdown.
But he seems a little off over the last two games,
and that's got me concerned.
Yeah, this used to be such a layup of a matchup,
the Colts' pass defense.
They allow the second-highest touchdown rate in the NFL, but over the last
five weeks, five touchdowns,
seven interceptions. Three
of those games were against Jacksonville, Houston,
and New England, but two of them were against Buffalo
and Tampa Bay, and they did a great job against
Brady and Josh Allen, so
I don't know if it's a genuine improvement
or what, but it doesn't look like it's the
layup it used to be. No,
but they did lose Rocky Sin, so we'll see what that matters.
That is true. Starting cornerback for them.
So, Kyler Murray
or Tyler Huntley?
I currently have Murray over Huntley,
but I could see myself making that switch.
Yeah, I'd stick with Murray.
All right, we're going to sit
the DSTs in this game, right?
Yes.
They're good? Good on this game?
All right.
Finished with this game.
Let's take a break.
Let's go to Cleveland at Green Bay.
When we come back,
tell you what the Packers have allowed to wide receivers
in their last four games.
It is troubling.
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defense is struggling. 28 or more points allowed in four straight games. Six pass plays of more
than 40 yards in their last four games and 76 or more yards to six wide receivers in their last four games.
As I alluded to earlier, though, a lot of deep stuff.
And, you know, like you can think about the Rams game,
the deep balls to Jefferson and Beckham.
And that's not exactly the forte of Jarvis Landry.
So, Dave, let's talk about Cleveland first.
And who on Cleveland are you starting?
I'll start Nick Chubb. I don't like that he's lost JC Tretter in the middle of his offensive
line and that the Packers are getting back Kenny Clark. That worries me quite a bit.
And obviously, if the Packers build a lead on this tired Browns defense, who would be without
cornerback Greg Newsome, by the way, I wonder just how much work Chubb will get.
So he's starting to make me nervous.
I've got him ranked high.
I could see myself moving him down as we get closer to the game on Saturday.
He's probably the only one that I feel really good about.
If I had any belief that this Brown's offense could consistently be effective on deep passes,
Peoples Jones would be in play in redraft leagues.
He's definitely in play in DFS.
I would love the idea of taking the chance on Peoples-Jones
because of the set you mentioned, the Packers pass defense being bad.
But I don't necessarily want to trust him in my lineups this week
unless I was really thin at wide receiver three.
Okay, but you like Landry better
than Peoples-Jones or you like Peoples-Jones?
I think he's safer than Peoples-Jones, so if I'm debating
between those two guys, it's Landry
because I know
he's going to wake up and roll into 10 PPR points
and he might get as many as 17 if he scores.
I think it's going to be a little bit
harder to count on that from Peoples-Jones.
Would you guys start Jarvis Landry or
Amari Cooper?
Full PPR.
Cooper for me.
Cooper.
How about Gallup or Landry?
Landry.
I don't know Landry there.
How about Landry or Pittman?
Pittman, but it's close.
Pittman.
Okay.
I guess we should keep an eye on Njoku.
He practiced yesterday.
He did? Okay.
Well, then our eye is kept on him.
So that means sit Hooper and Njoku?
I would plan on it, yes.
Okay, so let's talk about the Green Bay Packers here.
And Aaron Rodgers is a must-start, obviously.
It looks like Myles Garrett is going to play,
but right now, Jadeveon Clowney's still in the COVID protocols.
Yeah.
And no McKinley.
No attack McKinley.
Right, and Garrett is at less than 100%.
He's going to gut it out, but he won't be normal Miles Garrett.
Start him.
I'm just going to say I like Rodgers this week.
Yeah, it's a pretty good play.
Start Adams.
Now, how do we feel about
A.J. Dillon and Aaron Jones, Jamie? Break it down.
Jones better than Dillon.
Jones, I think, will benefit with
MBS not there because what they typically do with
their running game and the passing game, running backs and passing
game, excuse me. Dillon is
kind of, you know, to expect this point, he's a touchdown
or bust running back. So the thing that
you would probably like is that
if they're playing with the lead, he's going to get a lot of opportunities in fourth quarter. So he's not a bad number two running back. So the thing that you would probably like is that if they're playing with a lead, he's going to get a lot of opportunities
in fourth quarter. So he's not a
bad number two running back in non
PPR, flex in PPR.
But again, you saw what
the way things can unfold
for him last week, where if he doesn't score like
what happened two weeks ago, you're going to be
left with a very empty stat line.
Aaron Jones or Nick
Chubb? Still Nick Chubb?
Still Nick Chubb.
I think Jones will be one of the running backs I'll put ahead of Chubb.
How about A.J. Dillon or Sonny Michel?
Sonny for me.
A.J. Dillon or Rashad Penny?
I would take Michel over Jones in non-PPR, too.
I've got Dillon ranked ahead of Penny right now. Who is it? Dillon or who? Penny.J. Dillon or Rashad Penny? I would take Michelle over Jones in non-PPR, too. I've got Dillon ranked ahead of Penny right now.
Who is it? Dillon or who?
Penny.
Penny.
I'll take Penny.
You'd go Sonny Michelle over Aaron Jones in non-PPR?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, Minnesota, that's a good matchup for Sonny Michelle for sure.
Let's camp Akers, please.
Right.
All right. A.J. Dillon. um let's can't make her place right all right aj dylan already been the craziest year in the history of fantasy football would it really shock you if he came back this week yes aj dylan or dk metcalf let's say half
ppr metcalf metcalf has a little more upside but they're both the same. You need them both to score in order to feel good about things.
And if MVS is out,
would you start Alain Lazard
or AJ Green?
Green.
Lazard.
How about this?
This is a good one.
If MVS is out,
Alain Lazard or Mikko Hardman?
Lazard.
Okay.
All right.
I think we're
finished with this game.
I don't want to sell
these games short.
I know I usually
take a lot more time,
but...
We're at the point
where you kind of
know who you're using.
Does it feel like
I'm selling these games short?
No, not at all.
All right.
I don't want to
hurt the listeners here.
Chicago at Seattle.
Take a look at conversions in this game.
These are two of the three worst third down teams in the NFL.
You could have taken out third down.
What?
You could have taken out third down.
Only Detroit has a lower third down conversion rate.
There is one difference, though, in conversions.
The Bears are the fourth worst red zone team
in terms of converting red zone opportunities into touchdown conversions. The Bears are the fourth worst red zone team in terms of converting red zone opportunities into touchdowns.
The Bears are the fourth worst,
and the Seahawks are actually the fourth best.
And that is so important to me because, you know,
I know a lot of people just start David Montgomery with total confidence.
But the reason why he doesn't feel like he's been that great
is because they suck in the red zone and he barely ever scores.
You got to love his role in the passing game, though,
and we'll get into him in a little bit against a team
that gives up the most receiving yards to running backs.
Why don't we get into it right now?
Why don't we talk about David Montgomery, Jamie?
Is he a slam dunk start this week at Seattle?
100%. Yeah, you can't get away from his work.
You can't get away from the role in the passing game.
The touchdowns, the lack of touchdowns stink.
But, I mean,
with what the running back landscape looks like
this week and really for the season,
anybody that's getting as much work as he is
is hard to avoid. So you have to have a
very unique set of circumstances to be
benching David Montgomery.
Montgomery or Aaron Jones?
Montgomery. Jones.
I'm just going to
give you the numbers. Aaron Jones, Ronald Jones. I'm just going to give you the numbers.
Aaron Jones, Ronald Jones.
There's only three games all year where David Montgomery has scored more than 13 PPR fantasy points.
Yep.
And I feel like Aaron Jones has done that each of the last two games, right?
Because he's scored.
Sure, but it's a matter of you're counting on work versus touchdowns.
And so does Aaron Jones have higher touchdown potential?
Sure.
Does David Montgomery gonna touch the ball more?
Yes.
Yeah, that is for sure.
Okay, back to this game here.
I had a stat of the game.
Let's find it.
Stat of the game.
The Bears allow the third most fantasy points
to wide receivers.
That's it.
That's almost the head of the game.
So, you know, Dave, I know I mentioned
this on the live stream yesterday. I watched every target for DK Metcalf in his last three games.
There are opportunities there. Absolutely. It's so frustrating. There was a slant against the
Texans where he could have scored and the throw was behind him. There was the deep ball against
the Rams. It was pathetically underthrown. What am I supposed to make of that? I still think
there's a chance for a good game here. Obviously, we all
do, but I know you're really
kind of, I feel like you kind of had it with Metcalf.
And I wonder if
the Seahawks have, too,
and if Russ has had it, and
maybe they would try and come together
and put something
to work in practice so that
Metcalf can be that number one guy for them.
But Lockett's back,
and I think that means a world of difference,
both in general for the matchup
and for how Russ thinks when he drops back to pass.
I don't think there's any reason for him
to target Metcalf 12 times this week.
And he did it last week,
and Metcalf didn't even average 10 yards per catch.
He caught half the balls.
It's not all on DK.
There's no question because you even mentioned it.
We all saw the deep ball last week to Metcalf that was way off target.
And then you mentioned the pass that was thrown behind him in the red zone.
I guess it was two games ago.
I think that it's just going to be more of a lower target volume
and fewer opportunities just in general
for DK Metcalf.
He might get one or two end zone targets,
but he's been getting that week in and week out
and nothing.
He's Mike Williams.
Yeah, there could be a squeaky wheel game coming.
Like I'm reading some stuff right here
from Pete Carroll this week
about how, here's what he said,
they're trying their ass off to play right.
They're working on their stuff.
They're out.
The calls are there.
We're trying to get the ball there.
We've just got to throw and catch it, and we've got to make the plays,
and they've got to get the job done.
That was, I think, following the game.
And this is what he said on the radio after the fact.
They're working at it, and they're developing.
They're a pretty dangerous pair.
We've just got to keep going.
We hit the deep ball.
Everything would have been different.
I'm sure talking about the Ramsey play we underthrew him.
I think he's still going to be in the neighborhood of eight targets.
This matchup is too good.
It's very difficult to sit DK Metcalf.
Lockett is obviously ahead of him, right?
Must start.
Okay.
How about Mooney or Metcalf?
Metcalf.
I'd go DK over Mooney.
Even if Dalton plays.
Mooney or... Because I've kind of had it with Mooney too
do you like Mooney and I think Dalton's better
for him look at the last two games he had with
Dalton right I mean off the top of my head
I know one of them was 100 I think they were both
100 yard games
I think if Dalton's under center you can make a better
case for Mooney as weird
as that sounds but I also don't think the Seahawks'
defense... I think their defense is
designed to keep
Mooney from beating them deep.
They're so good against receivers.
Put it that way.
And they've given up three touchdowns in their last ten games
to receivers. Two of them were to cup. One was
Jamal Agnew. So, in general,
start or sit Darnell Mooney this week?
Set him if you can.
You can. You can sit him.
You can get Nicole Hardman and put him
in there. Which tight end do you like better in this game?
Will Disley's on the COVID list. So is it
Everett or Komet for you?
I would go Everett and non-PPR
and Komet and PPR. I'll take Komet
in both. If the Seattle defense
is going to be playing deep to keep the big
pass from beating them, then
short throws are in order, and that's where
Komet thrives. I do like
it better for Komet if it's Fields
versus Dalton.
Okay. Yeah, although one of Komet's
best games came on Thanksgiving
with Dalton. I think the one thing, though,
about what you said, Dave, is there's just
the lack of touchdown potential for Komet, as we've seen.
And so that's why I would take
Everett non-PPR,
because I think he can score
twice in this game.
Wouldn't surprise me.
All right, so how about
Russell Wilson?
How do you feel about
Russell Wilson now that we know
Lockett is back?
Borderline starter.
Wilson or Mahomes?
And the thing that he struggles with
is pressure up the middle.
They're not going to have that
with the key mix, not there.
Sure. And, you know, whether you heard pressure up the middle. They're not going to have that with Hakeem Hicks, not there. Sure.
And you know,
whether you heard it already in this podcast or you hear it later,
you know,
I'm nervous about Dak Prescott.
I'll still start Dak Prescott over Russell Wilson,
but I agree with Jamie's call.
I've got him 13th borderline starter,
not a must start by any means better than pretty much any streaming option
that's out there.
Save for Tyler Huntley.
Yeah. I mean, I might go Russell Wilson over Mahomes
if Mahomes doesn't get his guys back.
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.
Okay.
So, Rashad Penny, Jamie, how do you feel about Rashad Penny this week?
I mean, I think he's in a better spot without Hicks there.
You know, it's a much better opportunity.
It's, you know, I still think he'll be the lead guy. I am concerned though, if Collins does get healthy,
still dealing with an abdomen injury, despite coming off the COVID list, uh, if they activate
Adrian Peterson, then that's a, that's a red flag. But if it's, you know, just Collins and DJ Dallas,
then I think you should be okay with Penny. Um, you know, I would imagine that, you know,
you talked about what, with Barkley, what the Giants are trying to look at for their future.
I think that the Seahawks need to figure out if, if Penny can be their guy, you know you talked about what with Barkley what the Giants are trying to look at for their future I think that the Seahawks need to figure out if if Penny can be their guy you
know hopefully stays healthy it it was really frustrating because I don't know if he would
have scored the touchdown that DJ Dallas got but that's the one that he lost because he left the
field with a back injury and there's always that concern with him I like the fact that he's not on
injury report this week so I think Penny's a low-end starter flex, depending on what you need.
I originally had him behind Jeff Wilson and Deontay Foreman.
I put him ahead of them after I saw the Hicks news yesterday.
So that could be one that I regret.
But in any event, I think he's in that late 20s,
23 to 27 range of running backs.
Carol also talked this week about running the ball more,
which is very scary because when he's talked about it in the past,
he's followed through with it.
If Penny is that lead guy, then sure,
he's got an opportunity to just compile some good stats and maybe have a couple of breakaway runs,
but that's what you're looking for if you start him.
Last week against LA, he averaged 3.6 yards per carry.
He didn't face eight in the box
even one time.
I do worry about him
coming through with explosive plays.
Worried about him staying healthy throughout the game.
Feels like he's in that same box
as Wilson and Foreman, where
if he doesn't score, he's going to leave you
hanging.
Anything else in this game?
I think we're good.
I like the Seahawks DST. Okay.
Rams at Vikings.
An interesting matchup for
Kirk Cousins because he's been terrible under
pressure. He has not completed
a pass under pressure in two straight
games. He was 0-7 against the Bears
on Monday.
He also really struggles against too
deep coverage. Teams have been
playing that a lot lately against the Vikings, and they've openly talked about it. They and the
rest of the NFL is struggling against too deep coverage. All right, let me give you a couple
stats here. Here is a mildly encouraging stat of the game for Beckham and for Van Jefferson.
In the last three games, there have been seven wide receivers who have had 62 or more receiving
yards against the Vikings.
So that gives you a little bit of a floor
maybe. That's a lot.
That's more than two per game.
How about six wide receivers with at least
75 yards in their past five?
Sum it up,
their past defense sucks, and they give up the most
points to wide receivers. And they don't pressure the quarterback
as much as even Seattle does.
They play the same, a similar style of defense to Seattle.
It's not exactly the same,
but they try and take away the deep ball like Seattle did,
but they don't get pressure like Seattle does.
So that gives Stafford a little more time to throw,
and that could open up those guys further downfield.
Yes, a concerning stat of the game.
Tell me how you guys feel about this.
I don't think, I don't know how you feel about it.
I won't even say it.
The Rams, 3.21 yards per carry to running backs
in the last seven games, but it doesn't matter.
You guys are starting Alexander Madison.
He's top five. Start him.
Stafford is an easy one.
He's top four. Start him.
Sonny Michel.
So, Jamie, your thoughts on Sonny Michel
going against Minnesota?
They are 20th against running backs.
They are not good.
I mean, the nice thing is that the Rams showed you who they prefer,
and it's Michel over Henderson.
And so will Henderson's role increase, you know,
a game removed from the thigh injury slash COVID scenario
that he was dealing with?
Potentially.
But I think, you know,
uh, Pete Prisco talked about this and I think it's accurate that the, the, the Rams want to be more
of a physical team as they get into the playoffs because they know they can throw when they have
to, they have the quarterback, they have the receiving court to do it. And what they did last
week, they did it without Haverstein and they did it without Higby, and those are two significant blockers for their rushing attack.
And so if they get those guys back, I don't know Haverstein's status,
because I know Higby's still on the COVID list.
But if you get those guys back, you know,
I think that just makes it even more of an opportunity for Michel to run the ball.
So this is going to be a team, I think, that you see, you know,
established to run early, but also this is a throw to score, run to win type of team.
And they can use Michelle late in the game.
So I think he's a very safe number two running back this week.
He just, you know, he would add a monster game. You feel a lot
more, a lot better about him if he had scored.
But everything else, you know, I think you could feel pretty
good about his rushing work, the
minimal work in the passing game, but that's kind of going to be
the case I think most weeks for the Rams.
So you're looking at maybe two to three catches.
So he's got still, I think, think 20 touch potential even with Henderson still there
Beckham or Beckham's going to be a tough one for people this week Beckham or Clyde Edwards
Elair Clyde I'm gonna say Clyde but it's the second matchup in a row where it just makes perfect sense for the Chiefs to run more.
But they didn't do it last week.
Granted, they did pretty good throwing the ball.
They're chasing points.
That too.
Against the Steelers, the Steelers have allowed over 400 yards
to running backs on the ground the last two weeks.
I can't help but think that they would really hammer that,
especially without Tyreek and Kelsey on the field.
So I'll say Edward Ziller, but it's not a slam dunk.
How would you rank these three wide receivers?
Beckham, Van Jefferson, Gabriel Davis?
You just did.
Davis, Beckham, Jefferson.
Oh, how about that?
Davis last for Dave, first for Jamie
against the Rams wide receivers.
Start or sit Tyler Higbee if he plays.
The Vikings have allowed four touchdowns to tight ends
in their last three games
and 71 yards to Cole Komet last week.
He'd be in a low-end starting range.
Okay, Conklin or Higbee? Higbee. Higbee, but I wouldn't feel good about either one. He'd be in a low-end starting range. Okay.
Conklin or Higby?
Higby.
Higby, but I wouldn't feel good about either one.
You may have answered this earlier, but Cousins or Wilson?
Right now, I have Cousins one spot ahead.
I'm going to change that with Lockett back.
I should have did that yesterday.
So I'll take Russell Wilson over Cousins.
I still have Cousins.
But that's 12 and 13 for me.
How much does Thielen matter?
I don't think you can just ignore the fact that his last two games have been junk
and Thielen hasn't played.
Well, one game was Dalvin Cook going for 200 yards.
I guess, but he also was 14 of 31.
He could have had a huge game.
He had all those misplays with Justin Jefferson.
This is the setup you like for
Cousins because they're most likely chasing points.
And so, you know, he could
clearly vomit all over himself and throw, you know,
a pick six and some interceptions. But
I still think this is the scenario
I would prefer. No Dalvin and Thielen back
and chasing points.
I think only four quarterbacks have thrown two
touchdown passes against the Rams
and Cousins has done that in seven straight games.
So we'll see.
Right, but he's had a couple of games where he's thrown two touchdowns
and didn't have a great fantasy game otherwise.
Last week was one of those games.
Oh, yeah, sure.
But he gives you that floor, I guess, because he does throw a lot of touchdowns.
All right, Madison, you start.
Jefferson, you start.
What do you do with Thielen and or Osborne?
Dave?
Thielen's a start,
but I would lower the expectations a little bit
just because we don't know how effective
he'll be coming off the ankle sprain.
Osborne is not a start for me,
definitely if Thielen doesn't play,
or definitely if Thielen does play,
and even if Thielen doesn't play.
Two games ago, nine targets, three catches.
He had one great play.
Last week, didn't get a lot of targets,
didn't have a great game.
I'm nervous about Osborne
and would go in a different direction.
So let's talk a little bit more
about Gerald Everett here, actually,
just because I think...
I'm not sorry.
I was going to compare him to Tyler Higbee
because I think people are desperate for tight ends
and you've got a guy who could find the end zone.
So would you start Everett or Higbee if he plays?
Everett.
I'd plan on Everett. He's got more upside.
How about Higbee or Jared Cook?
I kind of like Cook without Parham there, so I would go Cook.
I'm sorry. I thought you meant with Higbee. I would go Everett over... No, Hham there. So I would go Cook. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I thought you meant with Higby.
I would go Everett over.
No, Higby.
Higby or Cook.
I would go Cook over Higby.
Okay.
They feel like the same guy to me.
I might go.
No, I think I'd still go Cook over Higby.
Kind of avoiding the Rams DST this week?
Yes.
If you can.
Okay. If you don't want to, you don't? Yes. If you can. Okay.
If you don't want to, you don't have to.
It's a bad matchup.
Do the check of the waiver wire for the Dolphins, the Eagles,
maybe even the Seahawks.
Yeah, I'd go the Broncos over them too.
Yes, I would.
I started the Niners.
I started the Niners over them last night.
I don't blame you.
I had them running back to back.
Washington is at Dallas.
That of the game.
Dak Prescott in his last five
games since returning from the calf injury.
It is important to note he is averaging
nine rushing yards per
game, so he's giving you nothing there.
But he's also got a 2.4%
touchdown rate. If you listen
to the Wednesday show, we did discuss this.
He's been a little unlucky there. Throwing
41 times per game
in these five games
with a 2.4% touchdown rate.
So where did you come out
on Dak Prescott, Jamie?
I know earlier you said
you were pretty optimistic.
Either six or seven.
It's between him and Kyler
in that spot.
I do think he's going to bounce back.
You know, again,
I think three straight road games
is tough for any team.
A couple of tough matchups in there.
Like you said, a little unlucky as well.
And coming back home against a team that's back-to-back road games
after playing on Tuesday, I think it's going to matter
for how Washington's defense is.
And so he's got a good track record at home.
He's got a good track record against his team.
This team has been bad against quarterbacks all season long for the most part.
And so I think Dak takes advantage
of it. Receiving core
is healthy. He's in a good spot for me, in my
opinion. I think he's a starter.
I really
am going to count on that fact that
Washington's a tired team on the road
after the short week. I think that that
is humongous here.
And I think the Cowboys really need that.
So the question is,
does Dak continue to throw as much as he has been since his injuries played
seven games,
he's had at least 35 pass attempts in six of the seven games.
So I think he's got a good chance to throw 35 passes again,
even if it's just a walloping over this Washington football team,
he's just not taking a lot of chances downfield.
Three deep pass attempts in his past
two games. That includes
the game when Tyron got hurt, left tackle
got hurt. Maybe he's rushing to get rid of the
football and checking down a little bit more.
He obviously didn't have Tyron Smith last
week. Only 15 pass attempts
over 10 air yards in his past
two games. Those are the intermediate throws.
That's tied for 21st most
among quarterbacks. He's been off-target
on a lot of those throws, 10, 20-plus
yards downfield. His interception
two games ago was an
off-target throw against Washington. So he
has been playing as well.
And I wonder if the Cowboys recognize that
and they try and take the ball out of his hands after
all. And if this is an easy defense
where they're able to do whatever they want against
them because the football team is tired, then that means that they're able to do whatever they want against them, because the football team is tired,
then that means that they're going to be able to run against them too.
And so maybe I'm missing the boat on Zeke and he should be a little higher in
my rank.
Okay,
good.
Let's go to that.
Let's go to that.
Cause it doesn't matter who they've played.
Zeke can't run on anyone these days,
but Pollard can,
but who is the best?
He looked a little better last week.
No,
I think he looked powerful.
I thought he was,
you know,
he was, he's tough. He's strong, he's tough to tackle.
He has no explosion.
He's got a knee brace on for two straight games.
I mean, I think that is taking some speed away from him.
And you could see the difference so clearly when Pollard comes in.
I can think of a play where Pollard kind of went for about seven yards
around the corner and ran out of bounds.
Zeke probably would have gotten two yards.
It's just such a difference right now.
Zeke needs Tyron Smith much more so than Tony Pollard needs Tyron Smith.
I mean, does it even matter?
No, it doesn't matter.
You're right, but I'm saying, like, he's going to run between the tackles.
Anything he's going to do is going to be because somebody misses him,
not because he's making somebody miss.
Pollard is somebody they can go wide with.
Pollard is somebody they can do, you know, different things with,
get him out in space.
He makes people miss more so at this point.
They're not going to have a changing of the guard
anytime soon this season,
but it's very much a 50-50 split,
and it should be because Pollard looks better.
50-50 split, but obviously Zeke should have
probably more catches and definitely the goal line work.
That's just been the deal.
So who's the best running back in this game?
Right now, still Gibson,
but that's really trending in the wrong direction.
Right. I will take Zeke
and Gibson would be
next if he plays. Pollard would be
right behind him.
Gibson has five or more catches in three of his last
four games. That's just saving grace for him and it sets down
potential also. He's a better version of Zeke
right now and that's not by much.
Alright, so then we've got to compare them to
some other guys. Clyde or a running back in this game?
Clyde.
I guess. Yeah,
Clyde. Josh Jacobs
or a running back in this game? Jacobs.
I don't like the matchup for Jacobs.
I would still take him. How about Joe
Mixon? Mixon.
I might have Zeke ahead? Mixon. I might
have Zeke ahead of Mixon.
I'll take Gibson
in PPR over Zeke.
Okay. How about
who is the second best wide receiver?
I'm sorry. Gibson in PPR over Mixon.
Who is the second best wide receiver
in this game after CeeDee Lamb?
Cooper. It's Cooper
and then McLaurin.
McLaurin is closer to Gallup than he is to Cooper.
Are you confident?
I think we like Cooper, right?
Yes.
Cooper's fine.
I could see McLaurin catching a deep ball.
I like that Heineken's back.
I think that's better for him than Garrett Gilbert.
I remember previewing this game two weeks ago
and thinking, hey, I like McLaurin.
And here's why.
The targets have been way down lately.
This was going into two weeks ago.
Targets have been way down lately because
Gibson's running the ball 20 times a game, and they're on
a four-game winning streak, and they're not giving up a lot
of points, and their defense is playing better.
And I like him because I think Dallas is going to come
in there and score a bunch. Heineke's going to
have to throw more. His pass attempts have been way down.
And McLaurin's going to really benefit from it.
Well, it didn't happen.
Is that the game he left with an injury?
McLaurin?
Yeah.
I don't believe so.
He...
I think it was last week.
Last, okay.
Well, it didn't happen.
He was horrible against Dallas.
And, right, he had no catches on three targets.
And Dallas hasn't been scoring.
That's the problem.
I think you need Dallas to score to get the pass attempts up,
to get the targets up.
So that's kind of where we're at with McLaurin right now.
And even then, I mean, he's not coming through.
I don't want to sit him, but.
I do.
You do?
Okay.
Would you sit him for Zeke or Gibson?
He has one good game since week seven.
This isn't a small sample size.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
But if he has a big game, then you're going to say afterward,
oh, now you do it.
Of course, it's in the playoffs.
Well, no.
I mean, I haven't been ranking him as a starter.
I haven't been trusting him as a starter.
It's been a disappointing season.
My whole ranking was on Ryan Fitzpatrick.
And so it's been a disaster without the guy who I thought
was going to pepper him with targets.
Taylor Heineke is not that guy.
No, the saving grace is that you're hoping that he catches
one or two deep balls against the Cowboys.
The Cowboys have allowed 12 catches of 20-plus yards
to receivers in their last five.
That includes four touchdowns.
It's the fifth most of anybody in the league.
So it's,
it,
you know,
the deal with McLaurin it's feast or famine.
He gets a decent amount of,
a lot of famine,
but when he feasts,
he feasts,
he's feasted once.
He's feasted four,
four times this year and once in his last seven,
but,
but it is always when he has the targets.
And if you think the Cowboys are going to do whatever they want,
then maybe there's some appeal.
He hasn't been above eight targets since week seven.
Because the football team's defense has been so much better in that stretch.
Even last week, I mean, it wasn't that good,
but they didn't give up a ton of points.
They also didn't have the ball much.
Look, I get it.
It's hard to trust them.
All right, then that's it for that game. Let didn't have the ball much. Look, I get it. It's hard to trust them. All right, then.
That's it for that game.
Except for the tight ends.
Dalton Schultz,
after a big game last week
against the Giants.
Would you go with Dalton Schultz?
We talked about Everett and Komet.
Maybe Higby.
Is Schultz ahead of that group?
Schultz is ahead of that group for me.
I would only start Komet over Schultz in PPR.
I don't think Schultz is solved yet
because of what happened last week.
No, but if Dak is going to continue with this short passing,
then that benefits Schultz.
How about Gasicki or Schultz?
He was miserable in this game two weeks ago.
He was.
And who's got the better chance to score
between Schultz and Komet?
Oh, Schultz.
I would take Schultz and not PPR,
but I would take Komet and PPR.
I think Komet's going to have... He might double him in catches. Gasicki or Schultz and Komet. I would take Schultz and not PPR, but I would take Komet and PPR. I think Komet's going to have...
He might double him in catches.
Gasicki or Schultz?
Still Gasicki, but I don't like it.
Hunter Henry or Schultz?
I don't like either one.
Hunter Henry.
Warren and Aguilar are still out.
I'll take Henry.
Dallas DST is top six.
We've got three games left. We can do this in 10 minutes.
Detroit at Atlanta, Kyle Pitts is set up.
I want to get the stat of the game.
Detroit's been terrible against tight ends.
Start Kyle Pitts.
But we said start Goddard over him if you have those two.
I guess in general,
Detroit's one of the more difficult teams
to break down right now.
We don't know who's in or who's out,
but I think we got to assume Goff is out.
So we got more questions about Amonra St. Brown
in our chat yesterday than any other player.
Jamie, give me your thoughts on Amonra St. Brown.
If Goff plays, he's got top 10 upside.
If Goff is out, he's a low-end number two receiver in PPR
and a number three receiver at best in non-PPR.
On the other side of the ball,
do you worry,
we will not skip the running backs,
we'll get to them,
but we have talked about them a lot today.
Are you worried at all,
I brought this up about Gage on the stream yesterday,
his two big games lately have been losses
where he's had a lot of targets.
You know, if they win this game
and if we like Patterson
because everybody runs on Detroit,
does this feel more like the 5-for-65 Russell Gage
than the true standout, must-start Russell Gage?
The touchdown that he caught against the 49ers last week
was early in the game, so I don't think score mattered there.
He's their guy.
He is their best receiving option right now. He's not their most talented receiving option. Kyle Pitts is still their guy. He is their best receiving option right now.
He's not their most talented receiving option.
Kyle Pitts is still that guy.
But with what Russell Gage has done lately,
the targets have been very nice.
The production has been even nicer.
I think he's going to be fine.
I think you've seen the floor, and it's a 4 for 64.
So he's not going to completely kill you in PPR and non-PPR.
But the ceiling has been amazing.
And so,
um,
yeah,
I'll,
I'll,
I'll take my chance with him.
We like Patterson a lot.
Do we like him better than Zeke and Gibson?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Do we like him better than Nick Chubb?
I don't think so.
Uh,
no,
but they're close.
Okay.
And then,
yeah,
Dave,
finally,
give me your,
sum it up again,
your thoughts on the Detroit
running backs I think Swift if he plays is the lead back does he dominate playing time that'll
probably depend on game flow and how he does early on it's a good matchup against Atlanta I think
they are struggling against running backs proof of that is last week with Jeff Wilson doing what
he did against them but my best stab at it is that he's run 60% of the snaps,
and then they work in.
I would think it would be Reynolds,
but the coaching staff might think it's Williams as the other guy in there.
But I still see Swift as the explosive running back
and one who could get you a huge game.
I don't see how you bench him against Stanley.
Now give me the scenario of Swift is out.
So if it's,
it's going to be Williams and Reynolds.
I just,
if you,
if you watch the two running backs play,
Reynolds is the one who looks better.
Last two weeks have shown it.
He's looked good.
He doesn't have breakaway speed.
I don't think Williams has breakaway speed either,
but Reynolds just seems to do a better job of reading his blockers,
finding a lane, hitting the hole, and going.
And I think Williams has struggled with that, doing that.
Okay, but I guess I'm asking—
Reynolds is clearly number two.
Where would you guys rank them, though?
If Swift is out?
Yeah.
If Swift is out, Reynolds would be probably a high-end number three running back for me in PPR.
Here, I was looking up a story to see what Dan Campbell said,
and he said this about Craig Reynolds.
I would say this.
If Craig goes to the game, Craig is getting some carries.
That's what I would say.
So, yeah, he's warranted that.
So he's going to work in with DeAndre Swift to whatever capacity.
I love that quote.
That's good.
So he's getting work.
It's just a matter of how much work is he going to take away from Swift.
And I think you've got to take into account, you know,
is Swift rushing back from this injury,
or have they taken their time with him?
I've said this several times.
I would imagine when he got hurt, he went to the University of Georgia.
This is probably a big game for him going back there,
wanting to play in front of, you know, I don't know if he's from Georgia,
but I'm going to guess he's, you know, from the area.
This is probably a big game for him.
Let's see. Do you think Siri knows? Hey, Siri. but I'm going to guess he's from the area. This is probably a big game for him. I think he's from Philly.
Let's see.
Do you think Siri knows?
Hey, Siri, where is DeAndre Swift from?
Philadelphia.
Good job, Siri.
All right.
In any event, he played at Georgia.
I would imagine this game means something to him,
going back to Atlanta.
So is he coming back because he's ready to go?
Is it coming back because he's close to ready to go?
You know,
they've, they've done a nice job with Craig Reynolds last two weeks.
So they're going to see how much they use both these guys.
How about this?
They have nothing to play for.
They're not going anywhere this year.
They're going to bring Swift back and put them on the field.
They obviously think he's healthy enough to play.
Why would they risk him getting hurt again?
Although I'm sure he's ready to play.
It's just a matter of, is he a hundred percent ready to play or is he 80% ready? Right. But if he's 80% ready to play. Why would they risk him getting hurt again? I'm sure he's ready to play. It's just a matter of is he 100% ready
to play or is he 80% ready to play? Right, but if he's 80%
ready to play, why rush him back?
I mean, again, this is just
my logic coming out and it has nothing to do
with Dan Campbell's logic and what
they're trying to do. They're trying to run games.
He says he's ready to go. They're going to play him.
That's why I think he's going to get a lot of work.
That's why I've got him as a top five running back.
I wouldn't rank him that high, but I get it.
Yeah, that's bold. All right, Tampa Bay
at Carolina.
Brady is
a star. Dave likes him a lot. He's got
him fifth. Jamie's got him closer to tenth.
And I guess
we should do some Brady-ors.
I'll just, in case
people miss it. Brady or Tyler Huntley?
Huntley for me. Brady. Brady or Tyler Huntley? Huntley for me.
Brady.
Brady or Dak Prescott?
Dak Brady.
Okay.
Ronald Jones is a must-start running back,
but let me just tell you,
if you took away Leonard Fournette's receiving totals,
if you think that's what Ronald Jones is,
what are you talking about here? In the last 10 games, that's when Fournette's receiving totals. If you think that's what Ronald Jones is,
what are you talking about here?
In the last 10 games, that's when Fournette started taking over and not including last week when he got hurt.
You are talking about the sixth most carries
and the fifth most rushing yards in that stretch
and just really good production
and eight touchdowns in 10 games.
So even if you only get maybe two catches from Ronald Jones,
you still have a lot of rushing work there.
So yeah, Jones, I guess people are going to be asking Jones or.
So how about Jones or Cordero Patterson?
Jones.
I currently have Patterson higher.
Okay.
Jones or Alvin Kamara?
Jones. I feel safer with Kamara and PPR. Nonppr i'll take camara and ppr non-ppr it might be closer all right well that's where we're at on jones he's a must start
so is antonio brown i didn't even look at your rankings but i'm assuming he's like top eight
top five for me top five for who antonio brown maybe antonio brown is top 10. And Stark Gronkowski,
sit Cam Newton, sit the
Panthers running backs, but you guys
would prefer in full PPR, you'd prefer
Abdul over Hubbard?
I guess.
I'd take Abdul over Hubbard.
And then it's DJ Moore. If DJ Moore
plays, Dave, where are you ranking
DJ Moore?
Low end number two receiver in full PPR,
middle of the pack
flex and non-PPR.
This is weird.
I was looking at Brady's road
games
and he's been not
great.
Yeah.
He had two big games at New Orleans
and Atlanta, so I don't know if it matters indoors, outdoors,
because he plays outdoors.
But 13 touchdowns, seven interceptions in his last five road games.
And you take away in the three non-indoor games,
at Philly, at Washington.
Oh, no, I guess it doesn't matter.
He played the Colts in there too.
So forget the indoor-outdoor thing.
But his last five road games.
So two really big games and three really mediocre ones.
That's been the knock on his whole career.
One was against the Patriots, which did a great job.
No, that's not even in this.
This is going back to just against Philadelphia.
Right.
Washington, he had a couple of turnovers against them.
He's had a turnover in every game on the road.
Yeah, I was going to make a joke.
It's been the knock on him in his whole career.
He can't win on the road. Yeah, I was going to make a joke. It's been the knock on him in his whole career. He can't win on the road.
This obviously can win anywhere,
but I mean, it's interesting
and not much else to say there.
DJ Moore or Michael Pittman?
Pittman.
Pittman.
I don't think more plays.
You don't think more plays.
Okay, great.
Well, that's going to mean
I'm starting someone horrible
against you.
So Giants Eagles, our last game. more plays. Okay, great. Well, that's going to mean I'm starting someone horrible against you.
Giants-Eagles.
Our last game.
Barkley is the only giant worth
talking about here.
Who are the running backs you have ranked around?
I'm assuming you're starting Javante Williams and Melvin
Gordon over Barkley?
Yes. I'm going to get to that point. I already had
Javante over him. I'm going to get to that point. I already had Gervonta over him. I'm going to get to that point with Gordon.
I would start Barkley over Gordon in PPR
because Barkley's still going to get five catches.
Yeah.
I don't know how effective he's going to be.
He hasn't been efficient.
Seems to be touchdown needy.
He could always score.
Like right now, I'm looking at my rankings,
and I had Gordon over him already.
But now he's ahead of Mixon.
I think that's close.
He's ahead of Edwards-Hilaire.
I'm coming around on Edwards-Hilaire, even in PPR.
Damian Harris.
I could see Harris having a much better game than Saquon.
This is a tough matchup.
He's not playing as much as he has in the past.
When he does play, he's taking an extra second to find his hole.
He just isn't good, and this offense isn't good.
That's an understatement about the offense.
We'll see how they do with Jake Fromm.
Fromm looked okay at the end of last week when he spelled Mike Glennon.
Did they announce that Fromm is starting?
Not yet, but that's what they should do.
Why would you start that stiff Lennon anymore?
I don't think that they feel that Jake Fromm is prepared for that,
just in terms of all the things you have to do.
That's what I was getting.
As Joe Judge said, well, yeah, it's one thing to go and do it in the two-minute drill.
It's another thing to do it for the full game.
So I think he just hasn't been on the team that long.
That would be the only consideration I would, I would guess.
All right.
So let's move on from the giants to the Eagles.
What about, uh, Jalen hurts coming off this incredible game.
Do you have any hesitation in starting hurts?
I mean, I loved him last week, so no, no hesitation.
And I did not love him as much last week.
And he scored two rushing touchdowns to the pants me on that.
I'm coming back to him this week against the giants.
Excellent matchup. One of the things that back to him this week against the Giants. Excellent matchup.
One of the things that I looked up this week
were off-target throws,
just to see where Dak was.
And Dak was high on off-target throws,
but so were Brady and Stafford and Josh Allen.
You know who's been on target
over the last couple of weeks?
It's Jalen Hurts.
Not against the Giants.
I think it's like three off-target throws
or something like that.
What do you make of the fact that they were terrible against the Giants?
And he was six fantasy points.
And three interceptions in that game.
I think you've got to count on him.
In the game, he hurt his ankle too?
No.
Might have been.
I don't think so.
I think you've got to count on him to rush for a touchdown.
That's where it starts.
Because I don't see him throwing three touchdowns. But I could see him throwing two, and then
you hope that he gives you 50, 60 yards on the ground or a rushing
touchdown. That's the game he hurt his ankle. He placed through an ankle injury in that game.
So if he came back, and he's healthy now, and I was worried about the ankle last week
too. Clearly the Eagles coaching staff didn't care about that to let him go and
pound in a couple of short yardage scores.
I think he's got that generous upside
that you're looking for from a running quarterback, and that's
why he's a must. Jeff Kerr,
one of our guys, NFL writers
at CBS. He does a great job on Twitter if you'd like
some interesting stats. He just tweeted this
10 minutes ago that Jalen
Hurts has a higher passer rating in the red zone,
which is 100.5. I know you love these kind of stats,
Adam. Higher passer rating in the red zone than Josh Allen, Matthew5. I know you love these kind of stats, Adam. Higher passer rating in the red zone
than Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert,
Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick Mahomes.
And that's not including his nine rushing touchdowns
in the red zone.
Wow.
All right, so just to wrap this game up,
Hurts is a must start.
Miles Sanders, if he plays, is a must start, right?
Agreed, yes.
And if Howard is in place of Miles Sanders,
he's a borderline must start.
Yeah, dude, we're talking about a guy who's 25% rostered.
Please go pick up Jordan Howard.
And they, I didn't get a chance to look,
but I do feel like they have given
two running backs 10 or more carries
in seven straight games.
So, that might mean there's some flex appeal
to Howard or even Scott
if Miles Sanders is out.
Would you start a wide receiver for the Eagles?
Or for any team in this game?
No. Nope.
I'd take McColl Hardman over anybody. And start Dallas Goddard. Would you start a wide receiver for the Eagles or for any team in this game? No. Nope. Okay.
I'd take McCall Hardman over anybody.
And start Dallas Goddard.
And thank you very much for listening.
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