Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Cam Skattebo, Chargers WRs, Matthew Golden Breakout? (09/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

We recap Seahawks-Cardinals to start the show. What a fun finish! What's the outlook for Marvin Harrison Jr., Ken Walker and Trey Benson going forward? Then we've got news and notes (8:15) with key in...jury updates ... One Question for Each Game (16:45)! How many Lions can you trust this week against the Browns? Start Chris Godwin? Daniel Jones? Brian Thomas Jr.? Javonte Williams? Drake London? ... Start or Sit for Browns-Lions (25:35), Eagles-Bucs (33:35), Chargers-Giants (44:00), Jaguars-49ers (51:15), Colts-Rams (1:03:10), Packers-Cowboys (1:10:30) and Commanders-Falcons (1:17:40) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Happy Friday, everybody. Let's do some dart or sit for the NFC home games. It's never going to get old, folks, until it gets. really old. Welcome to fantasy football today presented by BetMGM, the sports book born in Vegas. Ooh, three and a half horrible quarters last night and then a riveting
Starting point is 00:00:39 finish. Seattle 23, Arizona 20. We'll recap that game. How we're feeling about Trey Benson and Marvin Harrison Jr. And Ken Walker going forward, etc. And we've got Cleveland at Detroit, which has been a very exciting three-game baseball series
Starting point is 00:00:56 this week, and now it's a football series. Philadelphia at Tampa Bay Chargers at the Giants Jacksonville at San Francisco Indianapolis at the Rams Green Bay at Dallas Sunday night and Washington at Atlanta Good morning guys
Starting point is 00:01:11 Jamie a good game broke out last night It took a little while but it happened It did. It was a fun finish after a very boring three quarters And you know thankfully the Cardinals A few of their fantasy options showed up But listen Sam Donald played very well despite the fact
Starting point is 00:01:27 that Jackson Smith and the jig, but did not next to nothing for him for the first three quarters of the game. And we have another running back problem in Seattle without that Zach Charbonnet is healthy. It's the same running back problem that we had before the season started and then certainly after week one. But at least Walker looked great in the first half, did fine in the second half. I don't think there's any question who the more talented running back is. It's just annoying that Charbonnet is going to take away so many high value touches from Walker moving forward. So how would you rank the three running backs in this game going forward? It's easy to put Charbonnet third.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And I think I'll probably just take Benson first simply because I know that he's going to lose some of that third down work, just like Walker will. But I just can't help but think that he's going to be in line for more opportunities. Benson, Walker, Sharbonne. I think I guess it is easy to put Charbonnet third because you can just see the talent. from Ken Walker. He just has something that most running backs don't have, but Charbonnet's got the goal line roll. So I'm not going to dispute it,
Starting point is 00:02:33 but that's the issue here with Ken Walker. Charbonnet is this week and in the past is not always, but this week definitively their goal lineback. I don't know that he's always going to be their goal lineback. Hopefully Ken Walker gets mixed in there. JSN, four catches, 79 yards. It's a pretty good game for only five targets. There are going to be some games like this, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I mean, they're obviously a team that wants to run the ball. they have a very good defense. And on the other side of the ball, let's talk about Kyla Murray, who got backdoored his way into 20.1 fantasy points. And Marvin Harrison, Jr., what a ride. What a roller coaster it was for Marvin Harrison, Jr., who was started in 58% of leagues.
Starting point is 00:03:14 How do you feel about the passing game? You can throw McBride in there, too. I'd say he's been a little disappointing so far, Tray McBride. He's probably averaging about 13-ish points per game when he was over 15 last year. So, Dave, your thoughts on the Cardinals passing game? McBride's still a PPR stud. I don't think there's any two ways about it,
Starting point is 00:03:35 and you're still going to start him in non-PPR leagues as well. So don't even sweat it. There aren't enough tight ends to pull him out of lineups. Harrison's going to be tricky. What I saw in the fourth quarter was a quarterback and a receiver just like playing freely and a little more up-tempo. And it just seemed to work for them. The touchdown that Harrison had, it's exactly why he bulked up this offseason.
Starting point is 00:03:55 wanted to win those contested catches. I'm glad he caught that one. And I think you just have to view him as a number three receiver until he starts to develop more rapport with Kyler Murray and certainly see double-digit targets more often. Coming into this game, six or fewer targets in each of his first three games, that's not going to cut it. He needs to see double-digit targets, and he did in week four.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I think Murray is a potential by-low candidate for one reason in that a lot of production is being left on the field that's not necessarily his fault. So Harrison's drop that turned to an interception. That's two points he loses there. The week before he has the drop passes, that would have probably given another point or two. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Was it Bo Nix or was it Kyler Maria? And you said, were you tracked? Bo Nix had about 15 fantasy points in just misses last week. But Kyler did too. I mean, Kyler had probably a 50-yard catch for Harrison and then a long touchdown. So let's say 80 yards in a touchdown last year. Yeah, I mean, look, those things are going to happen,
Starting point is 00:04:53 but it's starting to become a little bit. regular at this point. So you could still see that there's good fantasy production potential for him, although he didn't hit his six, seven yesterday. He was at five carries. Six seven. You're so happy about this now. I do think that the McBride slash Bowers finish will be interesting because if they don't get back to the level of what they were producing last year, we are going to have no tight ends drafted in the first four or five rounds at all. Right. How about a 9.9A dot for Marvin Harrison against Seattle, second lowest of the season? That's good. They gave a wide receiver screen, the first play of the game or something.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yeah, right? So that's what we like. I'm going to tell you right now. I tweeted it. I complained about it to Dave. Wide receiver screen from Marvin Harrison, Jr. on the first play of the game. Ricky Pearsall does not have a single target at the line of scrimmage or behind the line of scrimmage all year. I cannot stand the usage for Ricky Pearsall anymore. We'll talk about that later when we talk about that. about San Francisco and Jacksonville. All right, just last question here. Do you view Marvin Harrison Jr.? Just as a default, let's say in a two-wide receiver league with a flex, because I know the answer in a three-receiver league,
Starting point is 00:06:08 two-wide receiver with a flex. As a default, is he in your lineup or out of your lineup, typically most weeks Marvin Harrison, Jr.? How can I answer that without knowing who else is on my team? I mean, do you think he's the top, you know, 60 kind of... What do you say? What is your percentage was? 58% then he's most likely out oh okay all right so we got a busy weekend we got two live streams on
Starting point is 00:06:36 sunday morning 830 to 930 right before kickoff of the ireland game and then 12 to 1 YouTube.com slash fantasy football today join us we'll answer your starter sit question who's on the 831 I think that's me and heath no I'm on that too oh you are I don't remember. Am I not? I don't remember. One of you, I think some of you were on the early and some were on the late. Which one do you want to be on, Dave?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh, I can't be on the late because I'm on HQ. Then it's probably you guys. Okay, it's probably you guys early and Heath late. That's my guess. I can't wait. It's going to be a blast. So we'll talk to you then. HBO, CBS Sports HQ is really fantastic.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Dave, Jamie, and Heath are on it all the time. But what an amazing time of year this is. You have football in full swing. We've got Miami Hurricanes ranked number two in the country, so all your college football needs are being met. And we've got an, like, think about this weekend for Major League Baseball. The Blue Jays and Yankees are tied in the AAL East. The Tigers and the Guardians are tied in the AL Central.
Starting point is 00:07:40 The wild card races still have allowed to be decided. So go watch CBS Sports HQ. Oh, the Ryder Cup is this weekend. Watch CBS Sports HQ. It's on the CBS Sports app. It's 24-7 sports cover. It's free, it's awesome, and it's the way that you're going to stay, you know, focused and in tune with everything that's going on in the sports world. And obviously on CBS Sports H.Q, they probably should be saying obvious stuff like Aaron Judge is the MVP, and he's going to get robbed by Cal Raleigh because people like a nice sentimental story.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Well, it's ridiculous. Aaron Judge is the MVP, but he won't win it. News and notes. Brock Purdy, Limited. Mac Jones Limited. Which quarterback are you ranking for the Niners? pretty he's oh yeah purty okay good and jaden daniels which is limited which quarterback are you ranking for the commanders mariotto this is all subject to change obviously nobody's been ruled out yet baker mayfield has a biceps injury it seems like he is going to play but i don't think a quarterback has thrown for 200 yards against the eagles yet so we'll see if baker can clear that. And Justin Fields is practicing. He has not clear the concussion protocol, but he is going to start if he is cleared. And he's about 80% roster, Justin Fields. He has an amazing matchup at Miami
Starting point is 00:09:01 on Monday night. We talked about that game yesterday. So if Justin Fields plays, where would you rank him? Top 10. Top 12. Gino Smith's the start of the week. Would you start Fields or Gino? I would start fields easily in four point for passing touchdown leagues and probably fields in six points as well. I mean, the matchup's too good. Yeah, I think you're right. I knew I was going to get some heat for my... Matchup is going to be good for Gino too, but Fields rushing is the Trump card there. I knew I was going to get some heat for the air and judge take.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Guys, it's not even close. I know he's a catcher. That's wonderful. It's like 90 points in batting average and on base percent. It's not even close. All right. Running back news. Chuba Hubbard was limited.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I did go pick up RICO Dattle because Chuba Hubbard was downgraded to limited after a full practice on Wednesday. I don't know if anyone's concerned yet, but it's one to keep an eye on. Chorriky Merritt practice. Certainly I beat the Waverware guy. Rico, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yep. Bill practiced. Looks like he's going to play. He was, okay. All right. I saw he didn't and then I saw he did. So officially, Bill did not practice? Officially he did not.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Oh, I'm sorry about that. Oh, if you read your G-chat messages before the show, you would have known that. Oh, my bad. I missed that. Okay, so are we worried about him playing? I will find out today. Sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Hopefully we'll know by the mailback. Yeah, that's Friday afternoon at noon Eastern. Samajai P. Ryan practiced for the Bengals. And Chris Godwin missed practice, but it seems like this was part of the plan. It was a planned rest day. Yeah. We're still expecting Godwin to play, right? As of now, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:43 All right. Number three receiver at best. Xavier Worthy still ranking him, expecting him to play. Guys, what are you thinking about Terry McLaren right now? They're saying he doesn't need surgery right now, but Jamie, this doesn't sound like a great situation for McLaurin. No, but it's weird, though. Every report I see is he doesn't need surgery,
Starting point is 00:11:05 but they haven't ruled him out yet for this week. So I'm going to guess it's probably a pain tolerance thing, just based on the things that are being said. But until we get any sort of definitive answer, you can't plan on playing him this week. The fact that he missed two days of practice and getting second opinions, it just seems like it's not great. So hopefully this isn't something that's going to bother him long term. Hopefully he does not need surgery. From what I read, if he does have surgery, it's probably two months that he's out.
Starting point is 00:11:29 So we already know, for example, Jalen Coker suffered a quad injury right before the start of the season. And it was deemed a four to six week injury. We're now getting to week four. and Dave Canal is saying his quad injury is still week to week. So, you know, sounds like it could be a two-month thing for Terry McClorn
Starting point is 00:11:47 if he's going to miss time, but that's not anything definitive. Okay. Malik Neighbors was back at practice. Are you guys getting worried about Devante Adams playing this week? Not yet. Nope.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Okay. And Joanne Jennings missed practice again. Ricky Pearsall was back. Brandon Ayuk, this was big news too. Brandon Iyuk is not close to returning. So keep that in mind. He's eligible next week, but that's not going to happen. Do you guys expecting Colston Loveland?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Nope. I wouldn't play him if he does play. Remember this game we used to do you expect? We used to do that at the end of the news and notes. Let's do it again. Do you expect Isaiah likely? It's trending that way. Do you expect Darren Waller?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Limited snaps, but yes. Evan Ingram practiced in full, so we're expecting him. and Will Disley mispractice. Arronday Gadsden replaced Will Disley. He ran 15 routes. He had seven targets. The three wide receivers for the chargers, they also had a combined seven targets
Starting point is 00:12:52 when Arronday Gadsden was on the field last week or running routes last week. We can't have that. I can't accept that. Why can't accept that? That would be horrible for everyone. We can't have that. Big news, I guess, would be
Starting point is 00:13:07 Christian Gonzalez. Looks like he's going to play. Nominee Maude Mata BK's out. I'm not going to go through all the... The Eagles had a pretty good injury report yesterday with their defensive players. Looks like they're going to get most of those except for Nolan Smith.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Most of those guys are going to play, so they're not super beat up. All right, let's take a quick break here. Imagine federal and McMillenbach? Yeah, he was limited yesterday. Well, look, I don't know anything. I thought Kroski-Marri... You know, the thing with Kroski-Marit,
Starting point is 00:13:33 I think he was at to practice, but they're not participating. Right. Let me double check on. He may have done individual drills, but they don't count that toward participation in practice. Yeah, Tedroa McMillan was limited in practice. I got that right.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. All right, we're going to take a break. One question for each game after this. Oh, I forgot to ask, Dave. Any important injuries in the Baltimore, Kansas City game? I mean, there's Matabuque. You already talked about that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Just thought I'd ask. you about the Baltimore, Kansas City game randomly on a Friday. All right, one question for each game. Cleveland's at... What did I miss? What is that? I don't know. It seems like a pretty good game. When you look at all of the games this week,
Starting point is 00:14:20 Baltimore, Kansas City really stands out as one of those really good games this week. Cleveland at Detroit. You're not breaking it. You're not. You're not. Amonra St. Brown and Jamir Gibbs are obviously must start. Who's the next best flex option in Cleveland at Detroit?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Quintchon Jutkins. Yeah, I'd say him. Montgomery is also up there. Interesting pick, right? There's some tough calls in this game. But Montgomery, you mentioned, I'll just say in the last two games, the Browns have held Derek Henry and Josh Jacobs
Starting point is 00:14:58 to 27 carries for 53 yards. Oh, go further than that, because you factor in Chase Brown is 48 carries for 96 yards. Oh, you know what? I have no respect for Chase Brown's ability to run the ball so I didn't factor it in, but yeah, you're right. But I believe he's the only one that has a touchdown against them.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. Philadelphia is at Tampa Bay. Did Jacob score in that game? No. No. All right, Philadelphia at Tampa Bay, rank the wide receivers. A.J. Brown, Ameca, Abuka, and injured Mike Evans. No.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Devante Smith. and then Chris Godman. Okay. Dave agree? Yep. Okay. Yes. Chargers are giant.
Starting point is 00:15:40 It's kind of a weird question, but is this a start everyone? Obviously, you're not going to start Jackson Dart, but, you know, the relevant guys are, is this kind of start everyone game? I guess the question would be is Wondell Robinson in that category. As the number three receiver that he is, I guess. But Scataboo is a must start. The three receivers, I'm asking. The three receivers for the Chargers. Are we feeling good about this game in general for points?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Slot receivers have destroyed the Giants. So hopefully this is a good game for McConkey. It's hard to get away from Keenan Allen and Quentin Johnson at this point, certainly in three receiver leagues. I think Robinson in three receiver leagues is definitely in the conversation, as he's going to be every week. So just auto-start him if you have him there. So, yeah, for the most part, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I mean, Hampton's a must-start guy. Herbert's a must-start guy. Yep. Yeah, kind of weird. Dart, I'm stashing. I'm stashing DART. Anytime you've got a quarterback who A runs and B throws some league neighbors, that guy's got upside.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And he's got a great matchup next week. So like if you've got, we talked about this on the stash episode. Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, they're not playing next week. There's a bunch of other quarterbacks that have tough matchups. Getting ahead of week five now is important. And Jackson Darts one of those guys you could just stash, see how he does. If he looks good, he's got the Saints. next week. You can absolutely start them there.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And as for the Chargers receivers, I would rank Quentin Johnson the best of the three. I agree with what Jamie said about slot receivers against the Giants. There's a bunch of short area receivers that the Chargers use, obviously. It's McCawkey. It's Allen. Gadsden could get into the mix a little bit. Quentin Johnson runs some short routes as well. I just think there's the most upside with Johnston at this point. Okay. Jacksonville is at San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Brian Thomas Jr. or Travis E.T.N. no no no so by the way can i go back to the previous game dave do you rank do you think quentin johnson is the best chargers wide receiver rest of season i'm pretty close to being there yes wow all right you're buying it uh he does different stuff than the other receivers do and he's more explosive and he's getting work he seems different seems like he's just more locked in than he's been in the past. McConkey's a very close second. Keenan Allen's the one I'd sell high.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Maconkey does not have a single green zone target. He's just not getting any looks where it matters right now. The good news is that he looks the same. It's not like he's slow or not agile or anything like that. So a terrific by-low guy. I just wish that he was getting more work. And the problem is that the chargers are feeding everybody. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Colts are at the Rams. Start or sit, Daniel Jones. I would try and sit him. You guys have him about 16th or so, and he's been really good. I mean, he had scored 24.6, I think, fantasy points. He had Denver last week. I think the only reason he didn't have a good game last week is because Jonathan Taylor scored three touchdowns. So I guess why, Jamie, is Daniel Jones a sit this week against at the Rams?
Starting point is 00:18:56 It's a good week for quarterbacks. So go back to what I said each of the last two days about. There's a handful of guys that I think will have good performances this week that I don't think a lot of people are going to start. So he's in that group. But you got to give the Rams defense some credit. I mean, I know some of it has been matchups, but you've highlighted this quite a bit about going back to last year. Like they've been very good at quarterbacks for almost a full season at this point. So I think it's going to be a little bit tough for Jones.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I think he'll be right around 20 points or less. So does not qualify for me as a starter this week. And I think there are just some better. Like Gino Smith for me is a better start than Jones. I would start Tua over Daniel Jones this week. I think there's more upside with him taking on the Jets. So, you know, two guys that were not started in the last couple of weeks by comparison to where Jones has been. He's been spectacular except when he's been pressured.
Starting point is 00:19:43 His completion rate drops from like 80% to 50%. His off target rate basically doubles. His yards per attempt average drops by three yards. He just, it's the same story as it was in New York. When he's pressured, he's going to make some mistakes. stakes. There have been throws he's made where pressure's near him and he's on the money. I think the Rams get after him
Starting point is 00:20:06 just like they got after Jalen Hertz last week. Okay. And what are we at? Green Bay at Dallas. Who's a better flex? George Pickens or Giovante Williams? I'll take Pickens. I think I like Pickens better too. I want to give a stat since this game
Starting point is 00:20:24 probably not going to happen. We're not good to talk about it for another two or three hours. My favorite stat that I found this week, it's such a It kind of feels like a long shot, but let's give it a try. Matthew Golden, he runs go routes on 27.4% of his routes. That's the seventh highest among 87 wide receivers with 60 or more routes. Okay, so if you missed all those numbers, Matthew Golden runs a lot of go routes. The Dallas Cowboys so far have allowed five catches for 192 yards and three touchdowns on go routes.
Starting point is 00:20:55 No other team has allowed more than 80 yards on go routes, and the Cowboys have allowed, allow it a hundred and ninety two they get beat deep all the time that is what matthew golden does is his breakout week yeah you said it yesterday so i i mean look it's tough it's tough to evaluate him you're not he's not a top 24 guy or anything but no you can't you know start him yet with a lot of confidence but i think if you're looking at it from the standpoint of okay my team needs this and he's been on my bench so flex number three receiver you know he's in like i was start him over Wondell, for example, just if we're looking at it, Wondell's floor is definitely safer, but the ceiling is much higher for Golden this week. I would start him over Trey Tucker,
Starting point is 00:21:36 who's coming off a great game, you know, and has a good matchup as well. But I think the upside could still favor Golden just based on his matchup as well. So it's still risky, but there's there's so much upside and so much potential. And you started to see a little bit of a flash last week against a good defense for Cleveland. So hopefully it starts to carry over and you start to see the guy that was a first round pick. And, you know, somebody we were excited about coming into the season. Would you start Matthew Golden over David Montgomery? In PPR, I would.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Dave says no. Jamie says yes. Okay. And Washington's at Atlanta, start or sit, Drake London this week. Start. You're starting Drake London. Do you like London or Brian Thomas Jr. better? London.
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Starting point is 00:23:08 They've played one home game this year, and they scored 52 points against the Bears, I believe. Do we think, Dave, that the Lions against arguably the best defense in football are going to – what kind of game do you think they're going to have offensively? I think they'll struggle a little bit, but you're still going to start Gibbs and St. Brown, and I would expect good numbers from them. It's LaPorta, Jameson Williams, and David Montgomery,
Starting point is 00:23:33 who I'd have some concern about. And Jared Gough. Those are the ones that I would say try and get away from if you can. It's really hard to get away from Leporta. So start him, hope for 10 PPR points. Maybe he scores. But Jameson Williams, like I'd rather start Matthew Golden than Jameson Williams. I've been so disappointed with how they've used Jameson Williams this year.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And Jared Gough, you can find a better quarterback than Jared Gough this week. He knows one of them. Yeah. Highest average route depth in the NFL for Jameson Williams. It's just not working. Jamie, same question to you. How do you feel the Lions offense will do against Cleveland? Exactly the same way.
Starting point is 00:24:08 You know, it's a great run defense as we've just talked about. So Montgomery took advantage of Baltimore's very poorest run defense last week and was amazing, but he's going to need to score in this matchup. So you can still get that touchdown from him because they'll almost inevitably be at the one-yard line at some point. And that's his territory. So if he scores, you'll be okay. If he doesn't score, we could be looking at a game one stat line for him, which I don't
Starting point is 00:24:34 think they'll be trailing because of how this game should go. But when they are trailing or it's struggle to run the ball, he gets more involved in the passing. He had four catches in that game against the Packers. So this is just one of those games where it's going to be touchdown or bust for David Montgomery. In the case of Gibbs, he'll be involved in the passing game much more. So that's why he's still a safe start.
Starting point is 00:24:53 But I think Dave nailed it. You know, golf is easy to replace despite the fact that he is at home. he's been amazing and home in his career in Detroit. Jameson Williams is disappointing. And Sam Leporta, I think, is just like Hunter Henry's an easy start for me over him. Tucker Kraft, Ferguson, you know, guys that were drafted after him, you know, easy starts over him at this point. Joanne Johnson as well. There's a terrible coverage stat that goes against Jameson Williams that I wrote about in lineup decisions this week.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So if you're considering JMO, go read the story and you'll be convinced not to use him. Go ahead. Give me 15 seconds on it. It's man coverage. Browns use a ton of it. Jameson Williams doesn't even get a lot of targets against man-to-man coverage. You know who does? St. Brown, obviously, it gets targets against everybody. But Gibbs, too. Like, they're dominating targets from golf against man coverage this year and last year.
Starting point is 00:25:45 On the topic of Leporta, the Browns haven't given up 30 yards to a tight end yet, including Mark Andrews and Tucker Kraft. They have allowed two touchdowns of tight ends, but we've got two streaming tight ends, I guess, on Cleveland, would you start either of them over Sam LaPorta? If there was one of them, then yes. At this point, the fact that there's two of them, and we just haven't seen a lot of what I was hoping for, which is the volume in the Browns offense, you know, last week
Starting point is 00:26:12 in particular. So I'm hoping that they're chasing points, and we see Joe Flacco throw it all over the place like we saw in week one when Fanon was great and the Joko was still okay. But yes, this is a defense that gave up a touchdown to a tight end. in week one, if I'm not mistaken, with Tucker Kraft. Week two was nothing. Week three was nothing. So last year was number one in terms of few as fancy points
Starting point is 00:26:37 allowed to opposing tenants. Man, you hate John Fitzpatrick. He, he, Kraft did not catch a touchdown. Fitzpatrick did. But you also hate Noah Fant who caught a touchdown in week one against Cleveland. Gotcha. Okay, so you're starting to start over those guys.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Rock, right. Yeah. Judkins, would you guys, where do you have Judkins ranked this week? 24. Low end number two running back. Judkins or Scataboo. Scataboo. Oh, Judkins or Golden?
Starting point is 00:27:13 Judkins. Okay. Judkins last week, 18 carries, 94 yards and a touchdown against a very good Green Bay defense, one catch for one yard. But not a slam dunk start. We'd love him to do something with his 40 past attempts, but he hasn't been. Any interest in Judy or Tillman?
Starting point is 00:27:33 No. The only way it would be is Tillman's still banged up, right? Limited practice or mispractice? Let me check for you. I'm going to say limited. Let's see if I'm going to go two in a row here. He was limited. What?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, man. I'm feeling it. All right. So sit those guys out. If he were to be out, then Judy would have a little more interest in Judy, but the fact that Judy's just been so non-existent, it's tough to trust. Would you even have him in your top 30 if he were, if Judy were active and Tillman were not? He'd be close to that range.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Well, he's going to be active. I mean, he shut down St. Flowers. I don't know if I could be excited about Judy no matter what. This was the formula, though. Tillman missed the second half of the season, and that's when Judy took off. Yes. By the way, I have to apologize for saying that Carlton Davis shadowed Zay Flowers, DJ Reed, So you said that Sunday night, you said it Sunday night correctly.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah, yeah. And then during the week you missed. I didn't want to correct you, but I remember you saying it. You should have. I'm sorry about that. Davis was on the Lions last year. I only correct you when you spell things wrong. What did I spell wrong?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Alex's name. Oh, yeah. L.A. Oh, okay. So let's take a guy like Wondale Robinson, who maybe 11 points. We start in a Browns wide receiver over him? No, I'd rather start Wanda. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Really down on the room. I'm sorry, Jay Tucker, then a Browns receiver. Yep. Matthew Golden. Keon. Brenton Strange or, I saw a question. Brenton Strange or David Nijoku? Still no joke.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'll say strange. Strange or Fanon? Still Fanon. I think I have Strange higher. Fanon or Ertz? Fanon. Erts. Erts.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Okay. Anything? Oh, Gough. I mean, we got to talk about Gough here. So Gough or Daniel Jones, so you guys don't love. Jones. Did you say love? I'll start love. No, I said Jones, who you don't love. I'm sorry. Daniel Jones. Okay, Gough or Brock Purdy, if he starts. Did you say love? Because I'll start love over them too. Purdy. Love, oh, sorry, Gough or, damn you, Dave.
Starting point is 00:29:51 golf or Mac Jones if it's Mac Jones. I'll go Mac Jones. I think I will too. Last one. Golf or Mahomes. Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And Montgomery, you like Judkins better than Montgomery. It's just going to be really tough sledding for him. So I'll see if I have any Montgomery questions in the chat. We can move on.
Starting point is 00:30:17 How about Montgomery or Devante Smith? Smith and PPR Montgomery none All right I might take Smith either way All right So that's kind of where we are
Starting point is 00:30:27 in Montgomery He doesn't catch the ball He gets 11 to 12 11 to 12 carries Every week He hasn't caught the ball The last two games Montgomery did have four catches
Starting point is 00:30:36 In week one But it's just tough This run defense is giving up 2.3 yards per carry to running backs All right And would you start a DST in this game The Lions
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yes All right. Philadelphia is at... I believe the Lions have a good matchup next week as well. Yeah, at Cincinnati. Nice. So you can squeeze two weeks out of them. Philadelphia is at Tampa Bay. Yep, stat of the game. The Eagles have not allowed 200 passing yards yet. To Dak Prescott, Patrick Mahomes, or Matthew Stafford.
Starting point is 00:31:07 They all had 29 to 34 pass attempts. So starters hit Baker Mayfield, Jamie Eisenberg. I would sit him if you can. It certainly will help if Godwin plays, which is the way that it's trending. But he also has this biceps injury. It sounds like worse is going to be back as well, so that helps. But I think this Philadelphia defense is going to be tough on him. Now, he has played them twice in the last two years and done very well against them, playoffs.
Starting point is 00:31:30 One game in the regular season, one game to playoffs. But without Evans there with a limited Godwin, because I can't imagine he's going to play his full snap count. Like, this could be a little bit of a tough game from this. Last week was the first time that he's gone under 200 yards passing and one touchdown since week 13 of last year. So do we see him have two bad games in a row? It's just a little concerning. So, again, I don't think you need to necessarily run to drop Baker Mayfield to pick up Gino Smith if you're in a 10-team league. But if you can afford to carry two quarterbacks, I would play Gino Smith over Baker-Mafel.
Starting point is 00:32:06 How would you feel about Baker-Mayfield at Seattle or versus San Francisco? Tough matchups, right? Certainly Seattle. If you're in shallow leagues, you could get away with dropping Baker because those are the two matches. after i don't really want to do that you'd have to have like a really great bench to make a move like that but it it could be tough sledding for him he might not have mike evans for those games we don't know how chris godwin's going to play he himself isn't at 100 percent at least he's getting tristan whirfs back at left tackle so that's a good thing but there's a lot that could go
Starting point is 00:32:40 wrong with baker mayfield if justin fields plays baker's not a top 12 quarterback for me all right Just looking ahead of that San Francisco game in three weeks. Three games they played without Nick Bosa last year. The Niners gave up 38 points at Green Bay, 35 points at Buffalo, and 13 points to Chicago. I don't know if it's just the matchups, but I don't think we can judge San Francisco right now, based on what they've done.
Starting point is 00:33:02 They're going to be a different team. Back to this game. Defensively, yeah, Salah, yeah. Did you see what he said about Liam Cohen? Yes. It's about stealing signals. It was very, very interesting. He said, Liam Cohen's really good at stealing defensive signals in a legal way.
Starting point is 00:33:19 He didn't say it in a mean way. He said they do it legally, but we have to be really good with our signals. I thought he was just giving Ben Gretch a shout-up. Yeah, stealing signals. Ben Gretch with a horrible take on Twitter yesterday that Cal Raleigh is the MVP. Wrong. Okay, so Baker Mayfield's borderline top 12, start Bucky Irving, sit Rashad White. How much do you like Ameca Buka?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Seems like quite a bit. I see him around 15th in the rankings, Jamie. Must start wide receiver. I mean, he's been, he's been fantastic so far, and now you hope for a target boost, you know, depending again on Godwin situation. So it's not going to be an easy matchup for him. But, I mean, the catch he made on Sauce Gardner, Baker's not going to be afraid to challenge him, the matter who's covering him. You know, so they're going to try and do everything they can and take him away. But at this point, even if he struggles, you have to trust that he's going to have the opportunity for a good game. So to me, he's a must-start wide receiver, borderline number one guy. And I've gone back and forth between him and Jamar Chase, like just based on the situations in my rankings. So the upside for me at least favors Abuka because of his situation more so than what Jamar Chase is dealing with, which is just so frustrating. Okay, so based on last game that we talked about, we don't love Montgomery, we don't love Jameson Williams, we don't love Jerry Judy, we don't love Sederick Tillman. We love Abeca, but what about Chris Godwin? How would Chris Godwin compare to these flex options for the Browns and lions?
Starting point is 00:34:42 And before you answer that, let me just say that I'm expecting some type of report over the week, half expecting some type of report about Chris Godwin snaps. So whatever we say now could definitely change. You've got to stay tuned. But Dave, Godwin versus some of those kind of fringy borderline guys. Big risk. We don't know how much he'll play. We don't know how explosive he'll be. If he's only playing on like obvious passing downs, can he even get six or seven targets in the game?
Starting point is 00:35:09 I would be a little concerned. I don't think he's any better than a number three, like a low-end number three receiver. Okay. So you don't like Jameson Williams. Would you start Jamo or Godwin? I think I'd go Godwin, which is a change for me. If you had asked me this last week, if it was the same situation last week and the Lions weren't playing the Browns, yeah, I'd say James and Williams all the way.
Starting point is 00:35:32 But I just don't like how Jamos being used right now. I'd rather take the, what does he say, the mystery box with Chris Godwin? I feel like that's what he is. Hopefully we get a report that says he'll be full go, no restrictions, and then you can start them with a little more confidence and hope for eight targets, six catches, maybe a touchdown. Just give me a quick one on this. Any interest in Kate Otten?
Starting point is 00:35:59 He's an interesting streamer. I think just given the fact that what we saw last year, just take no Evans because really when Evans came back is when Otten completely disappeared. but that four-game stretch, which included the three games that he missed in terms of Evans, and the one game that he left, Weeks 7 against the Ravens, three of those games were awesome. All four of those games, he had eight-plus targets. And so it's not a bad dart throw.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I'll give you example. I'm 14-team league. I lost George Kittal. I played John Hussmith, Weeks 2 and 3. I'm done with that. I'm pivoting to K-D. Okay. There's three catches in three games.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I know. He's not getting any games. There is a chance that he's a mystery box with literally nothing inside. I totally agree, but again, you know, you're taking something away and the replacement option is not guaranteed to be a hundred percent. So in the event of what could help Kate Otten, this is what you're looking for. Okay. So if you have a match in the tight end premium league, this is a chance to roll them out there if you're stuck. If you're desperate to tight end, like I am in this situation, chance to take a, you know, opportunity to take chance on somebody that may have a few additional targets.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And last week, last year, excuse me, was very productive in this spot. Right. Last week, Evans got hurt after that, before that, no targets for K.aten. Like, nothing. There wasn't even a box. So I would be nervous. He's, I think, Jamie, you did say it best, desperation type of tight end. Okay. Sorry, I just got really mad at someone who's spamming the chat. Oh, I hate people who do that. Please don't do that. Oh, my own comment got rejected by YouTube. Wow. that's how mean it was. Don't spam the chat. Well, this guy, Jamar Chase for Jonathan Taylor, Jamar Chase for Jonathan Taylor, stop asking. That's enough.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You've asked 100 times. So I said, if you ask that question again, I'm going to rip my eyes out and throw them at you, and YouTube thought I should not say that, and they did not allow it. Okay, that was K.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah, someone brought up Sterling Shepard. That could be, if you're desperate, you know, he's had three or four catches in three games. I am very desperate. I'm actually, I think I'm starting him in our dynasty league because I have Mike Evans and Terry McLaurin and very little else a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I even spent 6% of my budget on him. It was gross. Let's talk, Eagles. Let's talk Eagles. Let's talk Eagles. Let's talk Eagles. Let's talk Eagles. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Jalen Hertz is a start. Sequin Barclay is not as great as he was last year, but you're still starting him. AJ Brown's a start. So, Devante Smith, as for what I gathered, is kind of like a number three receiver. I'm guessing he's around 30th. because kind of the vibe I'm getting from what we've said so far, Dave, Richard?
Starting point is 00:38:41 I kind of like him a little bit more than that. I think that he can, I think that's the matchup that Philly exploits. They had a hard time running the ball against Tampa last year. Sequoan had a great run, and you're starting Saquan, don't get me wrong, but he had one great run. Everything else in the game wasn't awesome for him. So the Bucks, we know that they're a good run defense. Their secondary is up and down.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And I think that there's definitely room for Philadelphia to build on what they did last week. So I don't love him, but I think he's in that mix of like borderline number two, number three receivers. So that's where I have Devante Smith. I have some Devante Smith questions from the chat that are not going to make me rip my eyes out. Devante Smith or Quentin Johnston full PPR. I have Smith. I like, I like both, but I would go Johnson. Devante or Keenan Allen. Same situation. I like both, but I would go Alan. All right. So Dave's going Devante. Jamie's going with the Chargers guys. Chris Godwin or DeAndre Swift. Swift
Starting point is 00:39:37 Swift Baker Mayfield or Brock Purdy or drop Purdy for Gino or Tua Drop party for Gino Agreed
Starting point is 00:39:47 Okay Or drop somebody else By the way Like if you're Ripping your eyeballs out and throwing them at somebody Who are you really hurting?
Starting point is 00:39:56 YouTube apparently Dallas Goddard is about 15th in the rankings Remember Minority Report in the movie? I only saw it once I don't really remember anything about it. It's good, though, right?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Well, there was a very, like, gross eyeball scenes in there. Speaking of which, there's a movie, there's a show out called Platonic. Have you guys seen it with Seth Rogan and Rose Byrne? No. There is an eyeball scene. It's really funny. It starts a little bit slow, but it is laugh out loud, hilarious.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Is it their neighbor characters or something different? No, something completely different. But reunion, it's good. It's got shrinking vibes. Shrinking has been one of my favorite shows that I've seen in the past few years. So I recommend Platonic. All right, let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Game of the week when we come back after this on fantasy football today. All right, welcome back. Chargers are at the Giants. Spelling of the game. If you were going to name your son, Jackson, would you spell it like Jackson Dart with the S or like Jackson Smith and Jigba without the S?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Or about Jackson like J.A.C. Oh, yeah. you could do a j okay or you could do the jac k yeah what would you do jac k what would you do i would go j a x o n jac s o n yeah me too uh all right here we go it's that of the game number one um quentin johnston and keenan allen have had at least seven targets in each game lad mcconkey's had at least seven targets in two of three games there have been four wide receivers that have had at least seven targets against the Giants and all of them scored at least 14.7
Starting point is 00:41:36 PPR fantasy points on receiving totals alone. So it's a good matchup. Okay. I guess my question about this game, Jamie, you guys have Justin Herbert in your top five. You both have him fifth. Heath has him second. Are you concerned that the Chargers destroy the Giants
Starting point is 00:41:54 and this is a very run-heavy game and pretty much everyone lets us down except maybe Hampton? it could be but that just hasn't been the MO yet for the Chargers now that being said we finally got a good run game from the Chargers last week and it was the first sub 20 point per game outing for Justin Herbert but this giant's defense has proven to be very good for opposing quarterbacks and I think Herbert has another opportunity here to continue to play well so maybe he is ranked a little too high but it is based on just how he's playing overall and he's playing overall at such an unbelievable level right now so So I hope that Hampton can do what he did last week. I hope that the absence of Najee Harris, as unfortunate as it is, that we get that type of performance from him again in terms of Hampton. But I still think that they are allowing Justin Herbert to play at this level, which is not necessarily a Greg Roman thing that we've seen in the past and a Jim Harbaugh thing that we've seen in the past. So maybe it's, hey, we have this great asset, let's use it.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And we have these assets at receiver, let's use it. So it may not be a 303 type of game for Justin Herbert, but I can certainly see 280 and 3, you know, 250 and 3. And they could almost essentially do what they want to based on how their offense is operating and the defense is operating for the Giants. Okay. So Hampton, I think, is a layup,
Starting point is 00:43:13 but you guys do have Justin Herbert. I have a couple of Justin Herbert questions in the chat. Herbert or Caleb Williams. I'd take Caleb. Herbert or Drake May. Herbie. Okay. So you guys have him very high, and he's just playing really well.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And this team is 13th in pass rate, but they're sixth in pass rate in the first three quarters of games. They had big leads in each of their first two games. They are throwing the ball. Dave, how do you rank and where do you rank the Chargers wide receivers? Quinn Johnson is the highest ranked of the three. He's on the border of a number two, number three receiver. And then very close to him are McConkey and then Keenan Allen. They all work as number three receivers.
Starting point is 00:43:54 They could all do damage against the giant. I almost wonder if we're seeing the Chargers trying to make Justin Herbert the MVP. And like what we've seen through the first week, three weeks of the season is not Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman doing what they used to do. Now they're trying to really back Herbert and run the offense through him. And they can get away with that because he's got so many good receivers. Herbert himself has been making some great plays. The offensive line is a little bit of a concern. But overall, you've got to love what you've seen from the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I'd be a little surprised if this turned into a blah. Amarian Hampton dominates the offense type of game. I actually think the Giants give the Chargers a game. I think this is a tough spot for L.A. Everyone always says that about the Giants when they're at home. Yeah, and I've said a lot about the Giants. Almost never did. I ran about them before the season and certainly now.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But I'm going to double down. I'm going to say that they turn the corner and they start to. to look better this week. Dave wants you to stash Jackson DART. Orande Gatston is 5% rostered and did some really impressive things. Yeah. So stash him, you never know. Scadaboo.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I have a question in the chat. Scadaboo or Chase Brown? Scataboo. Scataboo by a mile for me. And Devin Singletary is 4% rostered. I don't think he's going to do much, but he's the number two running back there. Start Malik neighbors. We'll do a little bit more on Scataboo.
Starting point is 00:45:24 in a second here. Wondell Robinson is a number three receiver in full PPR. Chargers, DST is an easy start this week. That's basically this game. Let's see. Scataboo. Who's a good one this week? Scataboo or Camara at Buffalo? Scadaboo for me. I have Camara. I'm just so interested. Skadaboo might be a must start if he's going to be the goal. lineback, which he obviously is, and disinvolved in the passing game, what they have eight targets last week? Now, we just don't know. Eight targets, six catches. New quarterback. Don't know the tendencies, but... And a more mobile quarterback. A more mobile quarterback.
Starting point is 00:46:07 That hurts him a little bit. Yeah, probably good. Right, going to be less dump off some more runs. Travis E.N. or Cam Scataboo? E.N.'s at San Francisco. I'll take Scataboo. I'll take E.T.N. Might see a little bit more of Bachel Tooting this week. Oh, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:46:23 get them while you can some questions for you from the chat Devante Smith or Quentin Johnston Smiley answered this one already I'll take Johnson Oh right we did that one for last game didn't we Let's go to Oh Quentin Johnston or Tyler Warren
Starting point is 00:46:39 Johnston Scataboo or Chase Brown I asked you guys Oh yeah you said Scadaboo right Scadaboo right? Scadaboo Yeah Scadaboo Boo Okay pick two here Keenan Allen D.K. Metcalf against
Starting point is 00:46:55 Minnesota. Tony Pollard against Houston. Pearsall against Jacksonville. First one and the last one. Yep. Kenan and Pierceall. Is Scadaboo the Bucky Irving this year? That'd be great. Who's got a better chance of being this year's
Starting point is 00:47:12 Bucky Irving? Scadaboo or Tutin? I mean, there's more tie-ins to Tudin being the Bucky Irving because of the coach, but clearly, if you're talking about a rookie that had not high expectations and moderate expectations, then it's scataboo. Why can't they both be? Why can't they? That's a great call.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Maybe Scatabu is just a better Tyrone Tracy and Tootin is Bucking Irving. Maybe Scatabu is Chase Brown and Tutin is Bucky. Those were the two best rookie running backs last year. Well, who was? Tracy and. Oh, Tracy and, yeah. Right. Chase Brown wasn't a rookie last year, just to break out. I'm starting to get this very important question from.
Starting point is 00:47:52 from Rugg. South Park Family Guy or Simpsons? Simpsons, but I love all three. Simpsons, then South Park, then Family Guy. Okay, moving on to our next game. Let's go to, what do we got? Jacksonville at San Francisco. Here's a stat I like. 49ers pass rate, the last six seasons.
Starting point is 00:48:12 58.2%. That was really high six years ago. Then 52%, 52%, 51%, 51%, 56%, and this year, 59.4% pass rate. they are throwing the ball a lot more and we need that but here's the stat I hate Ricky Pearsall has zero targets at or behind the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 00:48:30 Juan Jennings for example has two and he's played like a game and a half basically Ricky Pearsall has two targets of five or fewer air yards I looked at every wide receiver that has two or fewer targets actually four or fewer targets of five or fewer sorry two or fewer targets
Starting point is 00:48:49 five fewer airs there are almost no good wide receivers in that. category. It's Pearsall, it's T. Higgins. I may have missed the name, but the bottom line is, if you want wide receivers to be successful, they usually have to have some easy targets, some screens, Marvin Harrison Jr. got 1.9 fantasy points on the first play of the game. It was so easy. This never ever happens for Ricky Pearsall, and it's pissing me off. His ADOT's been about 15 yards or higher all three games, and I don't know how sustainable it is. That being said, I'm sure he is a clear must start this week. But if you want to talk,
Starting point is 00:49:22 about how you feel about him long term, with the usage, plus the good news of, for him anyway, of IUC not being ready in a while. Jamie, your overall thoughts on Ricky Pearson. I mean, clearly whenever there is no Joanne Jennings, and especially when George Kittles out, he's a must-start receiver, you know, so whether he's in number two, number one, you know, should be a top 20 caliber player. He's going to get opportunities we saw last week. I think in the case of Brock Purdy coming back, that should be a plus. So hopefully that's something that continues to happen. Two of three games, he's been good so far this season. The one game he wasn't was when he was out-targeted by
Starting point is 00:49:54 Jannings. Johnnings. John Jennings and McCaffrey. I think there's just an opportunity here, especially in what I would consider still a favorable match-up. It's a great scenario for him. So, yes, you'd like to see different things happening for him. Remember, he's still not even a full season into his NFL career because of all the missed time from last season following the gunshot. So there's still room to grow and room to get better. Now, that being said, one of the more obvious sell high candidates because of Jenny's coming back and Kiddle coming back and eventually IU coming back. So it's not sell to sell. It's sell to get something great in return. But you do see a potential downturn for him
Starting point is 00:50:34 coming when the other guys are there, especially if McAfrey continues to perform like this. So you ride this out with Ricky Piercelaw, if you have him. And, you know, if you're looking to him, like I'll give example. In one league, I won't say it because we're all in it, but somebody offered me Ricky Pearsall for Jalen Warren, and that's not a deal I'm willing to make right now. You'd rather have Warren? I would rather have Warren, yes. So I like Pearsall, and I could use a third receiver, but it's not something I think
Starting point is 00:51:00 that's beneficial to my roster at this point, because I think Warren has more long-term standing potential than Ricky Pearsall. Okay. To the stars... By the way, we're getting some comments, which I think are worth posting up, putting up, about Dave's shirt saying peed power because of what's covered. it's very funny it's hilarious speed power oh that's awesome oh that's so schnyer of you all right to the starts and sits for jacksonville at san francisco start or sit Trevor Lawrence I would sit I would sit Trevor Did I ask you Scataboo versus E.N? I forgot. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I think you did. I would take Scataboo. I take E.N. You guys are quite a little bit different on E.T.N. Jamie 22nd, Dave, 15th. Dave, more optimistic here. More optimistic. We've seen Tootin already come in and take work away from E.T.N. So being the high guy on E.T.N. suggests that I still think he's going to lead the way and carries. Still think he can score. and I think this 49ers defense is going to take a step back without Bosa.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You talked about how many points they gave up last year without him, two or three games. They were against good offenses. Just think that ETN is still the better running back in Jacksonville and still the one that you can trust in fantasy. Okay. And Jamie a little bit hesitant. Yeah, I mean, look, there's a big absence, clearly when you take Nick Bosa off the field. And I think, again, the performance had as much to do. with the offenses that they played comparatively to him not being there.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I don't know how much the Jaguars will take advantage that. You know, they're very, they're in a very weird spot right now. Their receivers are not performing as expected. Brian Thomas Jr. clearly has got something going on. Travis Hunter is just not, I think, adapting well to the NFL, playing both sides of the ball, and they're not moving him around. They're playing him in one spot at this point. So trying to limit his opportunities.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I don't know if that's the best way to utilize him. So what we've seen so far, and this could easily be something if you're looking for desperation plays like, you know, Dave gave you the example of being desperate and starting Sheldon Shepard, I would go get Parker Washington at this point, you know, for a guy that in week one had no targets and the last two weeks has 16, clearly he is a big part of what their game plan is and where Trevor Lawrence is looking. You asked about Brett and Strange. If I had the opportunity to pick up Brent and Strange, I would do so.
Starting point is 00:53:42 over Kate Otten, for example, because Strange has had two of three decent games so far this year with 9.9 ppr points or more. So there's other things at play here, but if you're saying Trevor Lawrence is going to have to win with Parker Washington and Brenton Strange, I'm starting other fantasy options right now. So I'm just concerned that Brian Thomas Jr. until he gets everything settled and right is not worth starting in two receiver leagues and not the type of player right now that is going to necessarily help Trevor Lawrence's total to be worth starting as a fantasy quarterback this week. Love hearing all that.
Starting point is 00:54:13 If Parker Washington were available in the Dynasty League, I would have a hundred. I understand. Now I know I'm going to get a trade offer because I know who's got Parker Washington and Yolo. I was honestly legitimately pissed at myself when I saw yesterday in two of our leagues that
Starting point is 00:54:29 Heath picked up Parker Washington because I thought I had him everywhere. Right. Yeah. No, I looked for him to, but I got him in a couple of leagues. Well, let's give me whatever. He's not a bad stash. You're right about him. I think he He looks like he's on the same page with Trevor more than Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:47 So there was a good article on CBS Sports.com by J.P. Acosta about the Jaguars offense. And one of the takeaways was they seem close. They are dropping a lot of passes, but they're designing some good stuff. And they have a decent EPA expected points added even with all the drops. So it could be that their offense, you know, if they can get things together, stop dropping passes, that they could have a nice year. with that being said Brian Thomas Jr. Jamie has him 32nd
Starting point is 00:55:14 and Dave has him 19th so that's a huge difference in the way you guys rank him I'm looking for some Brian Thomas looking for some Brian Thomas Jr. Questions BTJ or PBJ
Starting point is 00:55:24 I'll take PVJ at this point Strawberry or grape Brian Thomas Jr. Or Scataboo? Scatibu I'd go Scatibu Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Or Judkins? Judkins. I still love BTJ over Judkins. Brian Thomas Jr. or Jalen Warren? Warren, Thomas. Brian Thomas Jr. or George Pickens?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Pickens. I have BTJ very close to Pickens in my rankings. All right. So Dave still has some faith as a number two wide receiver. And I hope I'm wrong. I really do. Me too. I love this kid.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I think he's got so much upside of potential. It just everything looks bad right now. Like the fact that he's alligator arming passes, dropping passes, afraid to go over the middle, times is what it seems like there's just something at play right now with him with him and Trevor Lawrence it just seems as if there's got to be a correction coming and and hopefully it does and look you still see it you saw the 40 plus yard catch last week you saw the design run in week one you know to get him some manufacturer touches he scores that way but despite despite
Starting point is 00:56:31 the fact that he has a touchdown on the season he's three straight games under 10 ppr points that's very difficult to do with all the targets he's getting that's true you just i've got a lot I drafted him in round one or round two and I want to see him do well. And the fact that he still has speed, so much speed, just it's a little intoxicating for me. And I want to, you know, not miss out when he has a couple of big catches or he has the connection with Trevor Lawrence. And I, going back to Bosa, like Trevor should have time to throw down field. And if somebody can scheme him up and get him going, it's Liam Cohen. Okay, so I got some...
Starting point is 00:57:11 I'm not ready to quit, Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, and listen, to be fair, again, where I have him ranked, you're starting him in three receiver leagues. I personally have him in about five leagues. They all happen to be three receiver leagues, so I'm still starting him. Yeah, okay, good, full disclosure there.
Starting point is 00:57:25 So for the Niners, you know, McCaffrey's easy, Pierceall's easy. If Jennings plays, where would you put Pearsall? I would drop him a few spots, but he would still be a number two receiver. For example, I would start him over Brian Thomas Jr. still. Jennings would be in the low-end number three receiver range because he's clearly not right.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Like, you know, missing practice after missing a game is never a great sign. Okay. And Purdy or... Geno. Definitely, Gino. Gino. Purdy over under 20 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Over. That's the question every week. It'll be over, but it might be like 22. He's a pretty good player, and they're throwing the ball a lot. So Jacksonville, so far they've been good against quarterbacks, but they've faced Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, and the Jacksonville quarterbacks actually scored 31 fantasy points against... Bengals.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah, sorry. The Bengals guy scored 31 points against Jacksonville. Purdy. Yeah, all right. So he'd be kind of, I don't know, low-end borderline guy. Questions from the chat? Kyle Pitts or Brenton Strange. Strange.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Pitts. Pierceall or Dobbins, PPR. Pearsall. Oh, I'm my. O'Dobbins. Adam, I will make you an all organic fruit salad. Love that. Is Travis Hunter dropable in all formats?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Definitely not in Dynasty. Definitely not long-term keeper leagues. In redraft leagues that you have options on waivers, yes, he's dropable. Okay. Lawrence or Bryce Young? Lawrence. No, actually, no one. I don't go, Bryce Young.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I have, boy, they're way down. I have Lawrence one spot out of Young. Trade Rishie Rice for Brian Thomas Jr. If you're 1 and 2 or 0 and 3, then, yes, explore trading Rashi Rice because by the time he comes back, you may be 1 in 6. So 1 in 5, excuse me. Yes, I would make that trade. I would look for something better, but I would make that trade. All right, fellas, here we go.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Heath made a trade yesterday, if you saw. Heath made a trade. He traded C.D. Lamb for, who was it? Brian Thomas Jr. Brian Thomas Jr. Interesting. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Let's go to our next game. Indianapolis is at the Rams. Colts are 3-0, beat Miami 33 to 8, Denver by 1, Tennessee by 21. They're fourth in points per game. They're 1st in yards per play. They're 9th in points per game allowed. They're 14th in yards per game allowed.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yards per play allowed. Third in time of possession. And the Colts have not turned the ball over. Who wins this game? Colts at Rams. Rams. Rams. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'm not going to talk about Daniel Jones again here. If you missed it, one question for each game. We talked about him a lot. He's number 16 for Dave. Dave and Jamie, figure he should be around 20 fantasy points. I feel like I'm a little more optimistic just because I think he actually played great last week at Tennessee, but Jonathan Taylor had three touchdowns and Jones threw only 25 passes.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But I understand where you guys are coming from. Start Jonathan Taylor, sit Josh Downs. What about Michael Pittman? How about Pittman versus Brian Thomas Jr.? Easy Pitman for me. I saw a BTJ higher, but again, it's close. Like, he's in that same range. And it's the game of the week.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Yeah. The Colts at the RAVs. Daniel Jones, game of the week. And it's the game of the week. Hey. Hey. Kind of suspect lyrics there at the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:56 But I don't think you were expecting this game, but I'm feeling this game. It's going to be a good one. So what are you feeling? What's the vibe with Daniel Jones? because I feel like this is the game that he falls off. Great for three weeks. And we've seen it a million times where a player looks good, who's a surprise.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And then after a certain amount of time, there's enough film on him that defenses figure him out, and he turns into a pumpkin. I think this is the pumpkin game for Daniel Jones. Yeah, I mean, obviously it can happen. You still see even when he's playing great a few moments that are, oh, that's Daniel Jones, you know, right, a few like really weird throws.
Starting point is 01:01:34 But I don't know. I think he's just operating this offense at a very high level. I think there are lines been pretty good. And if he can go to Denver, look what Justin Herbert just did at Denver. He got his butt kicked all game. He scored 16 points. Janeo Jones scored almost 25. So I understand the hesitation, but, you know, to start him.
Starting point is 01:01:56 But I don't think this is going to be the week he turns into a pumpkin. He's just, he's playing very well. And, yeah, I believe in the offensive pieces. I think that's what it is. in the coaching. I believe in the off. I believe in this offense. They needed a competent quarterback to keep them on schedule, hit the first read a lot because guys are open. They run a lot of screens to Tyler Warren and stuff like that. They're doing the right thing, getting the ball in the hands of their playmakers. And I just, I like the way the Colts are playing. And I really
Starting point is 01:02:20 like the Rams. So I just think this is going to be a good game. I just think it's going to be a low scoring game because of how the Colts, I don't know if you'll get the second touchdown from Daniel Jones. Now he can get you one passing run rushing because we've seen that. That's basically what he's averaging. And so he could still be good enough. He's not going to throw on the Rams like Jalen Hertz just did. And the rushing production has been touchdowns, not necessarily yards yet. He definitely has that in his ability. But this also is still Jonathan Taylor and how great he's been, especially the last two games. So, you know, again, how much will he take away some of those fantasy points from Daniel Jones? So I don't think he's a horrible start.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I do think that this is just not a great fantasy game for him. No, I don't want to get too into Daniel Jones. I think you guys are good. Yeah, like I said, you know, several times. This is a good week for quarterbacks. This is a, I know I have Daniel Jones in one league where I like too many parts on my bench that I don't want to drop anybody and I don't want to drop Jones to find a replacement. But you can go that route, you know, especially you want to drop him on a Saturday and see if he does have the game that Dave's expecting where he turns to a pumpkin.
Starting point is 01:03:34 and then nobody's going to be rushing to go get him. And so, you know, you have that potential still out there. But I think he has played well enough. This could easily be the Sam Darnold Baker-Mayfield of 2025. And he is doing, like you said, Adam, a lot of great things. And, you know, just to pivot to Pittman, he's had two very great games, two great games. The one where he didn't was Patrick Stanton and the Broncos. And so you know me, I love these intangibles.
Starting point is 01:03:59 So it was first time for going back to play in Los Angeles for a kid that played at USC. a surprise that he never played there in his career. Oh, interesting, yeah. So I'm sure that's going to matter to him as well. But he's just commanding targets. He's doing very well with them. And I think as you saw from the Rams last week, when they're faced with the number one receiver
Starting point is 01:04:17 who's going to get opportunities, they struggled. Okay. You know me. I'm not a Pittman guy. And even I like him as a number two receiver this week. Good. Targets haven't been huge for him, but neither of the past attempts for Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And if the Rams forced the issue, the Rams put a point, Daniel Jones has to throw It could mean eight plus targets for Pittman So I like them plenty And Tyler Warren is an easy start here The Rams are just an easy team right By the way Stafford or Daniel Jones
Starting point is 01:04:47 Kind of a good question there, right? Close. Jones. It's close. I like Stafford better Especially if there's no Devante Adams. Right. But we're planning on him. Oh, yeah, there's no Devante Adams And you've got to start Jones. They're an easy team.
Starting point is 01:04:59 His Stafford is never going to be a great start because he, I mean, well, going into a week because he, you know, doesn't run ever. But he's a good player. And Kairns, you're going to start. And Adams and Puka, you're going to start. And the Rams' tight ends, you're not going to start. So this is kind of an easy team to preview.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But question for you, if Devante Adams were out, would there be a sleeper and who would it be? I'd probably go Jordan Whittington, just based on his, you know, chance to maybe get a few of those short area targets that the Rams like to, you know, mix in every now and then. But it could be too, too, out well. You know, this is a guy that they paid this offseason. could be Tyler Higbee, you know, maybe they start to get Teritz Ferguson involved a little bit more,
Starting point is 01:05:37 but it would be nobody that you would want to start. But Whittington would be the one, especially if this is a long-term injury for Adams, which it doesn't seem to be. But if, whatever, we find out, oh, he's going to be out a couple weeks for whatever, like that's a good stash candidate right now is Whittington. So if you have an open roster spot, you want to get ahead of it before we find out Friday that he's maybe missing this week, then that's a good guy to go pick up right now. But I would rather have Parker, Washington.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Apple. Yeah, there are receivers out there that you should probably stash before Jordan Winnington. I could also see the Rams have an uptick in two tight end sets, try and negate that pass rush for the Colts a little bit, then use play action, use the tight ends there. Not enough to like Higby or anybody. Two comments in the chat, one that you can still read from Bob Agonush.
Starting point is 01:06:22 He's the one that first pointed out Dave's T-shirt, and he just said that hashtag Pete Power should replace hashtag Keon. And then... It might after this week. And then Ben, our resident Saints fan, he had a very good comment when you did Game of the Week. And he said, I'm assuming tying it into Dave's shirt, nothing can disrupt Dave's flow.
Starting point is 01:06:48 All right, we're going to take a break. That'll disrupt Dave's flow. By the way, the Rams DST is 10th or 11th for everybody. We'll be back with Green Bay at Dallas after this. Do you ever watch one of those races? No. They're so awesome. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Good to know. What race are you talking about for the audio audience? The CLEGP race that you can watch on CBS Sports Network. Nice. All right,
Starting point is 01:07:09 Jordan Love is ninth for Dave and Jamie, sixth for Heath. Yeah, so I guess the same question about this game as I had about the Chargers, right?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Except Chargers have three good receivers and the Packers so far haven't really had any. Are you worried about past volume? You worry about the Packers just destroying
Starting point is 01:07:29 the Cowboys? and, you know, we've got 25, so far 22, 31, and 25 pass attempts for Jordan Love. How does that make him a safe start, I guess, Dave? It doesn't. And you've got to be a little concerned about that. But the upshot and efficiency is what you kind of cling to with Jordan Love. And understanding that it's the Cowboys defense and that they're a mess, especially in their pass rush. They're adding Judevian Clowny, hoping that he fixes things.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Now, to be fair, the Cowboys secondary might be getting healthy. healthy. Dron Bland is healthy. I think he's expected to play. Trayvon Digg should play. I don't know if that's a good thing for Dallas. But I think that Jordan Love should have time to throw, even with the depleted offensive line. And when he's not pressured, he's awesome. So I feel okay about Love as a low-end starter this week. Ask the question again. Same way. How does that make Jordan Love safe? It's the Dallas Cowboys. Okay. It is the Dallas Cowboys. They give up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. And Caleb Williams. I mean, Russell Wilson just got benched. I know. And Caleb William.
Starting point is 01:08:35 50 yards against this defense. I mean. Caleb only threw 28 passes last week and he had 37 fantasy points. So like this, this should be the layup of all layups. It really should be the layup of all layups. Dave said it best, though. You said it best.
Starting point is 01:08:48 The, the amount of pass attempts will they allow Jordan Love to have that type of game? They could easily get inside the 10 and, you know, Josh Jacobs getting touchdowns here. They could be sitting these guys in the fourth quarter because of what this defense is going to do to that Dallas offense. This could be ugly. This could really be ugly. But I think you've got to trust that Jordan Love does have a chance to be a very efficient
Starting point is 01:09:10 and successful fantasy quarterback. Okay. Do you remember the game he had against New Orleans last year? No. I've just brought it up. So that was the game that the Packers just annihilated the Saints. The Saints were terrible on both sides of the ball. He threw 28 passes in that game and he still stunk, 16 of 28, 182 yards, one touchdown
Starting point is 01:09:29 on it through the air. He just wasn't very good last year. He's playing a lot better this year. Right. It wasn't 100%. Okay. Now, their line is beat up and was not good last week, but that was against the Browns. The Cowboys have no pass rush. Tucker Kraft is top five.
Starting point is 01:09:43 We've talked a lot about Matthew Golden. Go back to one question for each game, but Golden's a borderline. He's like a number three-wide receiver. This could be his week. What about Dobbs and Wicks, Jamie? Any interest in them? Absolutely. You know, not to say that there must start receivers, but again, you've seen what this
Starting point is 01:09:57 passing game has looked like against this. Dallas defense. What passing games have looked like against this Dallas defense. So there's just opportunities there. So you're talking again about desperation flex plays, you know, guys that have an opportunity to be, you know, in your lineup. So not a lot of huge names, but I would put them in the same conversation, same range as the Browns receivers. I mean, their matchup is better. And in some cases, they performed better than the Browns receivers. Calvin Ridley, who's been a disappointment, you know, you can make a case for the two-packers. guys over them. It's just we haven't seen any consistency yet since Jaden Reed's absence, and it
Starting point is 01:10:35 was one game against the Cleveland Browns. Like this, this is like a jailbreak for them, you know, after facing that defense, we'll just clamp them down and they couldn't do anything. Are you starting any cowboys with confidence? I'm starting pickings. And I'm okay with Javante because he can catch passes. Right. And he could fall into the end zone. So far, the Lions wide receivers were terrible against Green Bay. Terry McClureen had five catches for 48 yards on nine targets. Debo had a late touchdown. Yeah, right. He didn't have that great of a game, but he did score. He's the only wide receiver to score double digit PPR fantasy points against Green Bay. Debo Samuel is. So they've been terrific, but Pickens, man, he's got a great opportunity.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Ferguson is obviously a muster. Ferguson ahead of Kraft, right? Yes. I started Ferguson, I'm sorry, I've ranked ahead of Tray McBride. Oh, that might work out for you. The case to be made for Ferguson to be the number one tight end, like in ranking. If you take out McBride because he's already played, I don't think you can start anybody ahead of Ferguson and PPR. If Bowers was not practicing in full and playing the Bears, I would have had Ferguson ranked number one. I think he does have Ferguson ranked one.
Starting point is 01:11:46 But what I was going to say about Pickens is not only does he have this great opportunity, he's still getting so many end zone targets. He has seven now update. He has seven of Dallas's 13 end zone targets. And three of them were inside the 10. yard line. So he's got this nice end zone role. So George Pickens is about 20, 21st for Jamie, 24th for Dave. Heath is a little bit lower on George Pickens, but everybody's got him as, you know, basically a number two wide receiver. Pickens, I think, for Dave, no, for Jamie, yes, ahead of
Starting point is 01:12:17 Brian Thomas Jr. Pickens, Piggins, or Pierceall? Pichens or, I asked you, Piggins or Devante, I think you guys both said pickens. Javante or Scadaboo? Scadaboo. I think I might have Javentay higher. A couple spots higher. I'm just concerned with this whole Dallas offense with the interior alignment missing. Like, you know, down their center, down one of their guards against this defense,
Starting point is 01:12:46 coming off of a loss, you know, where they played their asses off and, you know, should have won that game, you know, holding them to no points through the first four quarters than the late turnovers or whatever special teams plays led to you know the browns getting those easy opportunities and winning the game and you have michael parsons coming back to the house like this is just be it could be ugly like you want to have michael parsons in idp leagues this week would you start quenchon judkins or javanti williams uh jatkins for me javanti giovanni or zavier worthy uh javanti okay last one javanti or j k daubbins ppr Dobbins.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Dobbins. Okay, let's go to our last game. Start the Packers DST. Washington's at Atlanta. I won't give you the stat of the game. It's kind of boring. So let's go to the quarterback situation here. If Jaden Daniels plays, he's a must start.
Starting point is 01:13:41 But he's, you know, maybe going to be playing with a knee brace. So would you start Jaden Daniels or Jordan Love? Daniels. I start, Daniels. Drake May. Daniels. Caleb Williams. Caleb, Williams.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And I have that decision to make myself. All right, Marioita or Jordan Love? Jordan Love. I think it's got to be Marioada. I don't know if I ever ranked that way. Even without McClorn. I think Mario da's the better play. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I mean, I could see that with McLaurin. Without McLaurin could be tough, but he has scored, he's played three games last year and this year with the commanders. He scored 22.3 or more fantasy points in all of them in six point for passing touchdown leagues. Falcons, though, the Falcons allow, their top six in terms of fewest fantasy points allowed against quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends. And they've faced Tampa Bay, Minnesota, and Carolina. So kind of a mix of matchups there.
Starting point is 01:14:36 And that 30 points was not on them, on the defense. Correct. Exactly. Exactly. So they've had a pretty good defense so far, but they don't have AJ Terrell, which is a big deal. How are we feeling about the commander's running backs, Jamie? Well, if Bill, Cross-Gie Merritt, is healthy, it's an easy. stay away from all of them because last week was not the answer we were looking for even though
Starting point is 01:14:58 they told us some things. They told us that Rodriguez will be the starter. They told us that McNichols and Crosky Merit will work in. But blowout victory, big play for McNichols, carry leader for Rodriguez. Like, it's messy. And until you get some clarity. Now, that being said, if there is no Crosky Merit, Rodriguez comes into play as a flex because I think he'll get enough opportunities and what I hopefully will be a competitive game just because we want to see the Falcons offensive players do well, then maybe McNichols does take advantage of the Eckler absence and does become the passing downs back because we got one target for running back last week. It was Crosskey Merritt. And so the other two guys did not get an opportunity in the
Starting point is 01:15:37 passing game, despite however many routes they may have run. So we'll find out hopefully again before the mailbag, but you'll get an answer from us on CBSports.com if Crosskey Merritt's in or out. So Crossky Merritt in, avoid at all costs, I think. Crossky Merritt out. Riga's low inflex. Do you think Debo Samuel is just like a Bucca, just absolute must start right now? Yeah. Who do you like better? Not to the same level, but yes.
Starting point is 01:16:05 They're not far behind for me. You know, Debo, two or three games so far, very good. One bad game, though, did come with Marioita, but again, blowout victory probably would be more involved. Like you said, no, AJ Terrell. We didn't get to see what the Panthers passing game would have done potentially because of just not having to do very much. So I think Debo, given the benefit of the doubt of what he's shown and the opportunity without McLaurin,
Starting point is 01:16:28 like there could be a huge uptick in targets for him if, in fact, they have to throw a little bit more than they did last week. Imagine a world without. Desperation play, Luke McCaffrey, you know, just based on his, you know, his chances if there is no McLaurin. Imagine if there's no McLaren and no Bill, how much more could fall into Debo's hands in that case. Sure. By the way, Ameca, Buka, speaking of which,
Starting point is 01:16:52 he's the only wide receiver to score more than 11.1 PPR fantasy points against the Falcons. That includes Mike Evans, Justin Jefferson, and Tederell and McMillan. But again,
Starting point is 01:17:02 no, AJ Terrell. How do you feel about Zackertz? Why isn't Zackert's higher with McLaurin? I mean, McLaurin has not been ruled out, by the way, but we're assuming he's out.
Starting point is 01:17:09 But why isn't he in your top 12? He's basically borderline. I think he's 12th for you, Dave, 13th? He's 12th for me. He's still a touchdown or bust tight end. That's why he's. not higher. But he would absolutely
Starting point is 01:17:22 benefit if there's no Terry and no bill. He should and again this is a little bit hypocritical for me because both Debo and Ertz did not play well with Mariotta last week or produced well with Marioita last week.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I'm going back to Debo without hesitation because McCorn most likely out and even with McLaurin most likely out giving the Falcons a little bit of credit for what they've done against tight end so far this season. So they're number one at the position. Granted they haven't face a lot of great tight ends and Sanders got hurt last week. So you want to factor that in as well.
Starting point is 01:17:53 But I think just this is not a bad week for tight ends and Earth's just not a top 12 guy for me. Could you see five for 50 for Hertz? Sure. So that I feel like that's what he's going to deliver. And so you can weigh other tight ends against that and say, all right, can Mark Andrews do better than that? Could Brent and Strange do better than that?
Starting point is 01:18:15 And that's how you can judge your tight end decisions that involves Zach Hertz. Yeah, but I think he calls. a touchdown in both games with mariotta last year yeah he did he had 40 to 44 yards in a touchdown in both games mariotta threw 21 passes last week and terry mccoran mccloren played so i'm deciding between zackertz and travion henderson in a ppr flex spot you know who's more fun i'm undecided yeah i mean this is this is the henderson breakout game dude i hope so that's probably where we'll go i have a co-manager dustin shout out in our fft league all right to the falcons sit michael Start Bajan Robinson.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I got a run, guys. All right, Drake London. Stay hydrated. Keep it light yellow. Drake London versus Debo Samuel. Jamie, who do you like? I like Debo Samuel. Drake London or George Pickens?
Starting point is 01:19:08 I think right now I have Pickens ranked higher, but I may change that. Okay. We got a question in the chat before I forget. Debo or A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown. Okay. And any interest in Mooney? To stash, yes, to play.
Starting point is 01:19:24 No, until I see something better from Pennix and Mooney himself right now, the only receiver, the only receiving option I would start for the Falcons is Drake London. I would not start Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I mean, Pitts is not that bad. You know, he's 7.7 or more points in all three games without a touchdown. Four catches in every game. Yeah, and it's super low A-DOT, 5.5-yard A-D, which is great for a floor. You know, it's probably not great for his ceiling,
Starting point is 01:19:51 but if you're just, he's 68% rostered. If you're desperate at tight end, you know, when your targets are that short, you're going to catch a lot of them and you're going to have that PPR floor. Okay. And Washington's DST, you guys have in the top 10. So that's a 49% roster of DST.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Falcons allow the eighth most fantasy points to DSTs, mostly just because of last week. Yep. All right. Thank you all very much for watching and listening. And we will be back shortly. with the mailbag at noon Eastern, or you'll hear it on Saturday.
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