Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Cardinals/Chargers/49ers WRs and More! (11/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

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Happy Friday, everybody. Gobble, gobble. We are recapping three Thanksgiving games. Yeah, gobble, gobble. And previewing six NFC home games. Oh, it's a great weekend. Thanksgiving weekend is so fun. It's Black Friday. Go get some deals on things. I've got a promo code to give you in a little bit.

I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisberg. Big mystery today. No idea if Dave Richard is coming on the show. Hoping that he is. Thought he was going to be on. He went out of town for Thanksgiving. We're hoping that he drops in so we can give him the game of the week music and hear from him as well. Hey, Jamie, how was Thanksgiving?

Thanksgiving was great. How about yourself? It was good. It was really good. I was so happy that we were able to go. I don't know if anybody heard the end of yesterday's show, but we were really a game-time decision because of my daughter's illness, but she really turned the corner.

I was feeling good, and we had a normal Thanksgiving for the first time in three years. It was awesome. Yeah. Unfortunately, no ham. I'm a ham guy, but the turkey was great. I actually bought a ham because I thought we were going to have our own Thanksgiving.

Now I get to make that over the weekend. Everybody wins. There you go. We did have some key injuries from Thursday. Damian Harris left with a thigh injury. Von Miller left with a knee injury. Adam Azer left with a bellyache because he ate too many cookies.

The Jacoby Myers injury sucked too. Right. You know what? I actually didn't check the snap counts on that, but I know he came back in. Very, very low. I think he played nine snaps maybe. What?

That's it? I saw something. Maybe it was nine. The Patriots guys are tweeting something. I saw something jump out with number nine. Oh, because he came back in the game. He definitely came back in the game, but it was spotty. Kobe Myers played 16 snaps, 29%.

So that is very, very low. 29%. Okay, I know it's not nine. There's the nine. There you go. And Mac Jones played great, and Kirk Cousins was good, and there was no pass rush in that game. Pass rush was optional in that game.

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Buffalo 28, Detroit 25. Do I get credit for picking a close game here? You absolutely do. Yay! I'm a Detroit believer. You look great. What did you think of this game? I thought Detroit looked great.

I really did. I'm excited to see what Jameson Williams does in this offense. I think it'll be fun to see him add a different element. I thought Amaro St. Brown was obviously awesome. Man, poor DeAndre Swift and poor DeAndre Swift's fantasy managers. The knees just scraping the ground there on the touchdown run. That was frustrating to watch for him. But, I mean, look, Buffalo, you got what you were hoping for

from the two main guys, and then it was frustrating for everybody else. I don't know where Dawson Knox went after what happened the week before. That sucked. Gabe Davis, disappointing game again. And Singletary just didn't find the end zone. So it was, I guess, a little bit of a down game for the auxiliary pieces in Buffalo.

But, man, Josh Allen's amazing. Well, all right. First of all, I was debating putting almost touchdown for DeAndre Swift because he did have it overturned, but it was overturned at the two and a half yard line. That's a little bit out of almost touchdown range. No. But it wasn't like he missed it by an inch. He missed it by two and a half yards. It was. So I watched the first half with Pete Prisco and Bryant McFadden and BMAC's former player, two-time Super Bowl champion with the Steelers.

He saw it right away. I was like, really? He's like, oh, yeah, his knee hit the ground. I didn't see it. I didn't see it right away. I wasn't laser focused. But for Allen, you know, Allen scored 12 points in the final five minutes of the game, 12 fantasy points. He had a lot of rushing yards. He had the passing touchdown to digs. He had the

incredible pass to digs to set up the game winning field goal. But I don't know if you were listening to the game because I'm sure, you know, on Thanksgiving, a lot of people probably have it on not listening, but Romo was talking about it a lot. I mean, the elbow is an issue. And there were some inaccurate throws. And before those last two possessions, I believe the narrative would have been a lot different on Josh Allen. So what is your overall level of concern for everyone that's not Stefan Diggs, including, well, no, for everyone on Buffalo? What's your level of concern?

They have a Thursday game against New England. I don't know if the matchups matter at all, but your overall level of concern seeing Josh Allen not really be himself, even scoring 33 points. That's the reason there's no concern, because what he does with his legs is just so amazing when you factor in what he can still do as a passer. You know, it's not like he's what we

want Justin Fields to get to. He won't, he is what we want Jalen Hurts to get to, you know, it's, it's, it's Lamar Jackson to get to, you know what I mean? It's, it's the combination of being one of the best passers on top of one of the best rushers, you know? So, uh, would it be nice to see him having a little bit more accuracy and looking like the MVP candidate he was before the elbow injury? Obviously that's the, that's the hope, you know? Um, I did think that, and I don't remember where I heard this. It might've been, uh, our guy who's in the booth with Nansen and Romo saying that he didn't practice last week because of the snow and then the short turnaround and the travel and all that stuff. And so that maybe the rest might've helped him a little bit going into that

game, you know, just not throwing as much. I don't know what they're doing in terms of practice regimen and, and managing that, but I'm going to guess he's not throwing as much in practice to make sure he's right. So look,

there's, there's something off, but if something off gets you 33 fantasy points, yeah, you're not complaining or should you? I don't have anything to say. I don't have any explanation for Gabe Davis. I'm sorry. I loved Gabe Davis. I thought he was really turning a corner. Target share was way up. It was a McKenzie game. That was the weird thing. McKenzie got 10

targets, six catches, 96 yards. That was a beautiful play, the first touchdown. Yeah, and that was just weird. As far as the Lions go, I think you know what to do with your Lions. Jamal Williams, matchups do not matter. He's going to get that same workload. If he scores, it's going to be good. The fumble sucked. The fumble, yeah. It's the second-most fumble of his career, I believe.

Yeah. All right. Dallas 28 and the Giants 20. Dallas had the ball for 34 minutes and 9 seconds. Do you get credit for being wrong on this one, though? Wrong? What was I wrong about? It was a competitive game.

What was the score in the second half? 22 to nothing? The first half was great, though. Yeah, until that last... The first half... Look, I didn't think... I thought it was going to be a slaughter. Anybody who watched the game, I mean, Dallas is so much better. You can't take praise for the Detroit game and then not... But this game

was a blow. This game was an ass-kicking. What am I missing here? Nah, they hung tough in the first half. Yeah, but that's the first half. You said slaughter. It wasn't a slaughter. It was until a stupid late touchdown

to Richie James. Yeah, a lot of people that bet that game were not happy. I told you, Richie James. All right, we got to talk about the Cowboys running backs here. It's not even like,

Zeke's bad. Why are they giving him all this work? Zeke was great. That running backs here. It's not even like Zeke's bad. Why are they giving him all this work? Zeke was great. That was the best. He's looked like three years. Yeah, he was great. What do you think of him and Pollard going forward? So I think I had a little different view on this one.

I know we didn't talk about this because you guys used a preview on Wednesday. I thought Zeke was a good play this week. I had Pollard ranked ahead of him. I don't think anybody would have thought any different, but I had both those guys ranked as starters. With the thought of Zeke is still going to be the goal line guy and probably some chances for some touchdowns, plus he had scored in five straight games against the Giants,

or at least five straight games against the Giants. I had to go back further than that. Six touchdowns over that span. Plus he likes to jump on the kettlebell on Thanksgiving, which he didn't do, but he scored. I can't believe he didn't do it. I thought so too. He let the tight ends do it.

I think you just got to approach it now that they're both starters, you know, especially we still have two more weeks of bye weeks. They're not on a bye. The offense looks great. They're about to get Tyron Smith back at left tackle and shift some things around on their offensive line, which should make it better. But give that line credit. They've been awesome. The touchdown run. It was like, you know, Moses part of the Red Sea. He was just, you know, able to just he could have moonwalked into the end zone there but i just thought he looked good you know it just he looked

quick um i was i was ready to eat crow instead of turkey because on the pregame show on on hq uh prisco asked me do do i think he'll get any do i think he'll have any more games in a cowboy's uniform with 120 yards rushing and i said maybe one and Pete said I said how many you thinking of he said he said four or five and then B-Max sort of you know gave us the out that this might be his last year in a cowboy uniform but he was on his way to buck 20 at halftime you know he had over 60 yards rushing so he I thought he looked amazing you know so I think you just have to understand that's probably going to be if Zeke doesn't, he's probably not going to help you. And if Pollard doesn't score, he's probably not going to help you.

But they're both probably going to be in the neighborhood of 68 yards rushing. Hopefully they get back to using Pollard in the passing game like we saw last week. But this is just a bad day for Tony Pollard. Well, it was a bad day production-wise, but you've got to be very encouraged by 18 carries. If you get 18 carries from Tony Pollard most weeks, I think you're going to be pretty happy. You had 16 carries. Giants are a great matchup.

Keep that in mind. They're very bad against the run. And the Cowboys might be a team that can pull this off. You know, since Dak Prescott has come back, they've scored 49, 28, 40, and 28 points. They are just rolling right now. And they might be able to have somewhat of a low-volume pass offense, feed these running backs, still get you production from Lamb.

Everybody could be good. Not every week, but this is a good thing. It's like the conversation we had with the 49ers. There's going to be somebody left out. There's a lot of good players. But overall, you're going to get a lot of points. Dalton Schultz, by the way, the stat I gave out on Wednesday, the stat of the game was that Dalton Schultz

in the five games that Dak Prescott had played had four end zone targets and nobody else on the Cowboys had more than one. And, I mean, you saw it again. It's just the guy that he looks for in that range. Not a lot of yards. So, there's definitely downside. This is, I think, the second's definitely downside. He's using it, though. This is, I think, the second time,

but the first three games with Dak, he was over 49 yards. So not great, but I think two of those games were better than that. But 49 was the minimum. Yeah, this is the first game. Okay, it's 62, 49, 74, 54, and then the last two games have been 22 and 31 yards Barkley

let's talk about Saquon Barkley the fourth and one play that they should have punted but every coach is so damn smart and they just go for it all the time in their own territory both coaches did it he was wide open and probably had a touchdown if you see the replay

he had nobody near him he probably scores a touchdown. If you see the replay, he had nobody near him. He probably scores a touchdown on that play. But it was incomplete. And it's three worrisome games in a row for Barkley. Where are you? What's your level of concern for him? I mean, you're obviously not benching him. You know, if your trade deadline hasn't passed, you want to sell him based on name and see if you get something in return for it.

I get it. But I think the thing is, is just the frustrating thing for me is, and I'm sure it probably has to do with the wide receiver personnel and just not overworking Barkley, the Brightwell, whatever, Brightline. Brightwell. Brightwell, Brightline, the train down here. Yeah. It's frustrating.

The Brita touches are frustrating. You know, like when you're seeing him as a decoy, those things are annoying. And especially when those guys are, you know, I don't want to say it's like Najee and Jalen Warren or, you know, like when you're seeing him as a decoy, those things are annoying. And especially when those guys are, you know, I don't want to say it's like Najee and Jalen Warren or, you know, like past years of Zeke and Pollard where the backup looks a little bit more explosive. But it kind of looks that way a little bit. You know, some of the rushes that you see these guys just get shot out of a cannon. Barkley at times is looking to make a bigger play. So those things annoy me. But I think, again, you're not benching Saquon anytime soon.

And just hope that he continues to get some work. And I guess the biggest thing would be the offensive line gets healthy. You know, it's some time off now. That would be nice. All right, let's go to our third game here. Minnesota 33 and New England 26. And yeah, I mean, Mac Jones did not get hit until the fourth quarter. And he had his best game.

It was terrific. Yeah, bad sack at the end, though. Yeah. He had his best game. It was terrific. This was a fun game. Minnesota dominated time of possession. 36 minutes and 17 seconds. Is that right or did I switch that? Minnesota had the return for the touchdown. I may have switched that. I don't know if anybody cares.

The Patriots in the fourth quarter had two very untimely three and outs. How about, yeah, Minnesota had a kick return for a touchdown and still had 36 minutes and 17 seconds of possession. Holy cow. Takeaways from this game? Justin Jefferson is awesome. Patriots are, I think, a little bit of fraud defensively,

when you look at who they played and who they beat, some of the quarterbacks that they took advantage of. So keep that in mind for them moving forward. Get ready for top three, Ramondre Stevenson, if Damian Harris is going to miss any time. I wouldn't panic about Jacoby Myers. You know, the injury is the biggest reason why he didn't play as much. So if you miss the game, he suffered a shoulder injury early and then was barely on the field. So keep that in mind also with the rest of the Patriots receivers.

But I think for the Vikings, you can see what Cousins can be. And this was nice to see against what was a tough defense without Darasov, primetime game. So he sort of had another reason to say you like that after the game. Certainly somebody like me that thought he was going play bad well i thought he was gonna play poorly too because the patriots had the second best pass rush in the nfl according to true media pressure rate and the team with the best pass rush in the nfl was the cowboys we saw what just happened against the cowboys and no christian darasaw that's their starting left tackle and

somehow their offensive line played an outstanding game. Cousins had all day, and he carved them up. Like a turkey, Jamie, carved them up. Yeah, give Kevin O'Connell credit. I think the only time, and give Cousins credit. He should have had a, I don't know how he held onto the ball on the Uche sack, but he got blasted on that one. But that was the only time, really, that you saw him get hit.

Actually, in the postgame comments, the reporter asked him, what was the difference in this game? And he said, Kevin called a great game. What do you think about Adam Thielen? Our last thing here, Adam Thielen, nine catches, 61 yards, and a touchdown on 10 targets

after a three-target game with 25 yards. He hadn't been very good for a while, but especially with Hawkinson and he comes through here only started in 42% of leagues. Makes you comfortable. If you still have them on your team that there's, there's still this in his bag that he could do this. But it's been three down games,

like you said, with Hawkinson on the field. So is there enough, again, another offense that has a lot of good players on it enough to go around? Obviously the run game sucked, you know, so at some point, they're going to have to get Dalvin Cook on. So, I don't know. I mean, I think Adam Thielen is still what he is. He's a number three receiver with the opportunity to show you this every now and then. I wouldn't feel much better

about him, nor would I feel much worse about him than he was going into this week. Comment here in the chat from Elliot. Shout out to Thielen spitting out that gross turkey or whatever it was called on live TV. Yeah, he was not enjoying that. He was like, it's a little dry. So that was a fun post-game interview. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, getting into the games, we've got your news and notes.

We've got one question for each game. We're going to try to beat the waiver wire. There are only two teams on by next week. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? week. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. damage cost you time and money. Click before you dig. Ensure your next project is safe. Visit OntarioOneCall.ca. It's free. It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Welcome back. All right, your news and notes. Do we have any quarterback updates? Looks like Justin Fields, he was limited. And John Greenberg of The Athletic thinks that Fields is unlikely to play at the Jets.

So, you know, where are you on this right now, Jamie? I think you got to make sure you have a replacement. You know, I had a funny thing happen in one of my leagues where I dropped Geno Smith last week on a buy, and I did it on Saturday with the hope I can get him back for Kenyon Drake. This is a 12-team non-PPR league with some novice players. So they dropped Kenyon Drake somehow during the week, and I picked him up

to play him as a flex. And then waivers run out on Tuesday. Somebody else got Geno Smith before me. Ended up having to trade Kenyon Drake to get Geno Smith. I got Geno Smith back. You were able to trade Kenyon Drake to get Geno Smith. I got Geno Smith back. You were able to trade Kenyon Drake for Geno

Smith? Yes. Okay. Well, that's good. The manager who picked him up already had a patch in my home, so I think he was just picking up best player available. Yeah. You don't need Mahomes. He's the mixing guy. I was like, you need somebody just in the case. Somebody else got P. Ryan, so I was just kind of like, let me help you.

You help me. Here's a guy who might get eight touches this week. He might. Well, we don't know. I guess we were hoping Gus plays. Let's see. John Walford practiced. So he might start instead of Bryce Perkins for the Rams.

If I'm the Rams, I play Perkins. Oh, I mean, it's possible that they've seen Perkins for the Rams. If I'm the Rams, I play Perkins. Oh, I mean, they probably... It's possible that they've seen Perkins, and no, it's not going to go well. Maybe, but at least he's fun. Does this change anything for you, though, in this game, in terms of Chiefs DST? I think the Chiefs DST is the best play this week.

Okay. Lamar Jackson mispracticed. Oh, no, he did practice. He's going to play. He's good. Kyler Murray practicing in full. Tom Brady was not seen at the open portion of practice. I don't know what that was about. I think he's probably fine.

Running back news. Are you ranking Gus Edwards yet? What are we thinking here? No. Well, I will probably make that decision today. I'm going to guess he's going to be a game-time decision. I still think Kenny and Drake's going to lead them in touches, though, so just keep that in mind.

Joe Mixon, still looking not good for him. Leonard Fournette, still sore. We don't know what the situation is there. Try to update you on the mailbag later today, but we're doing that a little bit early, so I don't know if we'll get a practice report. We'll have some of those updates. Yeah, probably during the show.

Let's see. That's pretty much it for that. Did Raheem Mostert practice yesterday? He usually takes Wednesdays off, so I would assume he did. Okay. I don't even know. He didn't practice Thursday. Back-to-back DNPs for Raheem Mostert with a knee.

Okay. It's not quite clear how much practicing teams were doing yesterday on Thanksgiving. We'll keep it in mind. What's the deal with the Bengals wide receivers, Jamie? How are you approaching them? Bengals at Titans. Play music. Go ahead.

What? What do you mean? Play music. It's the game of the week, yeah. Where the heck is Dave Richard? To talk about the Bengals and tight end. It's the game of the week. Hey!

You know, Dave doesn't really look at me during the show, so he doesn't see me reach for my mixer, but JB's always Johnny on the spot. JB on the spot over there. Well, part of it is also you had a little grin on your face. Did I really? I gave it away? Yeah. No wonder I'm not good at poker.

All right, well, Titans-Bengals game of the week. And, yeah, what is the deal with the Bengals? What's the deal with the Bengals wide receivers? I mean, you're starting T. Higgins no matter what the case is. You're starting Jamar Chase if he's healthy because he's Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd, I think, falls from borderline number two,

number three receiver to, I'm not trusting you right now. I'm so mad at Dave for ruining the gag. I'm just, he really let me down today. Still no Jerry Judy or KJ Hamler at practice. No Greg Dortch or Rondell Moore. And we don't know about Marquise Brown. So what do you think about Kyler Murray right now?

We will talk about this game, but A.J. Green, what do you think about this passing game against the Chargers? I'm still starting Kyler Murray with just some reservations based on a, the receiving core, but he still has the Andre Hopkins. And, you know,

you go back to before we thought Greg Dorch was a consistent player and he just said, Marquise Brown, you know, I don't think there's much difference because I think Hopkins is a better version of whatever Marquise Brown was at that point. And he'll find a way to cobble it together with the other guys, whether it's green trade McBride, Robbie Anderson, you know, I'm sure they'll stick somebody else in the slot there that maybe they bring any Isabella back. Who knows?

Um, and Connor, you know, so I think he'll be okay. Uh, the bigger concern though, is, is, is he going to run? And the fact that he's practicing in full, you got to think that he's going to be himself. So that would be the best thing for, for Kyler Murray. Um, I, you can't trust AJ green or Robbie Anderson or those guys, you know, their, their DFS plays at best.

You know, if you're, if you're that desperate 14 team league, 16 team league, I'd probably lean toward AJ green, but no, no confidence there at all. Okay.

Um, see more wide receiver news, which, which addition for a name player has been worse. Robbie Anderson to the Cardinals or 90 minds to the bills. I have, it's a tie. I don't even know how to answer that.

I would say Robbie Anderson is worse because at least 90 minds is playing on special teams. Okay. Yeah. Uh, Corey Davis practice in full looking good for Juju, not for Tony. We'll see if Juju can clear the concussion protocol.

But unlike Mixon, Juju's out there on the field practicing. What Mixon's dealing with this week is what Juju was last week. Yes. That's going to be my baseline. It's just going to be, you get a concussion, you're going to miss a game. Mike Williams not practicing. So as of now, not expecting Mike Williams, but he can get out there today and change that.

Deebo Samuel's been limited with a hamstring injury, something to keep an eye on. Demarcus Robinson missed Thursday's practice with a hip issue. And Jamison Williams for the Lions could play next week. Some tight end updates. David Njoku missed practice with a knee and ankle injuries. I don't know if he was back out there yesterday. I believe he was limited with the designation

I saw. Okay. Tyler Higbee got in a limited session, and Gerald Everett practiced in full. Oh, let's go. Top 12? Especially if Mike Williams is out, 100%. Yeah. Facing the Cardinals, they give up the most points. And defensive injuries, the ones I'm looking at, the two big ones

for me are Arizona cornerback Byron Murphy. He's day-to-day. He's been missing. He's missed the last two games. And Vita Veya, the stud defensive tackle for the Buccaneers. We've seen in the past their run defense much different with and without Vita Veya. And they're at Cleveland this week.

Well, usually they had Sue to fall back on. Akeem Hicks has played, I think, the last two games for them. Yeah. And so he's still a good player there, but you lose Vea. That's tough. It's a big deal. The Titans are getting healthier. Christian Fulton, their starting cornerback, he upgraded

to limited. The only key guy I think that's not practicing on their defense is Danico Autry. Those are the headliners. Maybe Marshawn Lattimore gets back out there this week against the 49ers. Is Cam Jordan back?

That I did not see. Let's check the Saints practice report. And Warner I know was limited on Wednesday. Yeah, Pete Warner. Okay, so let's see. Saints injury report. This is a big one, too. Thank you. See, I don This is a big one, too. Thank you.

See, I don't have a Thursday update for them. Yeah, I don't know. I'll try to find it. Oh, I do have a Thursday update. Davenport was limited. Cameron Jordan was limited. Marshawn Lattimore was limited. Pete Warner did not practice on Thursday.

All right, but that's good. That's a step in the right direction for some key players on that defense as they face the 49ers. All right, if we beat the waiver wire... I want them to play. I want them to sit. Oh, I mean, I don't think it's going to matter,

but beat the waiver wire. Taylor Heineke at the Giants. Arizona and Carolina are on a bye, so if you have Kyler Murray, you might need a quarterback. Taylor Heineineke at the Giants. Arizona and Carolina are on a bye, so if you have Kyler Murray, you might need a quarterback. Taylor Heineke's at the Giants. Mariota against Pittsburgh. Kenny Pickett. I think Kenny Pickett is a guy to beat the Waverwire with.

Let's see where this goes, especially if you're struggling at quarterback, and he's at Atlanta next week. It's just a matter of will he ever get to that second touchdown level and do it consistently, because the last two weeks, 17, 18 points. He's right there. Blame George Pickens last week, dropping that touchdown. Trevor Lawrence at Detroit.

He's not widely available, but he might be. No, but Jared Goff might be. Can't beat the waiver wire, though. He's too high? No, he just played. Oh, he played earlier, right. He's too high? No, he just played. Oh, he played, right. Zay Jones is interesting in a deeper league because if the Lions score points,

which they do basically every week, this could be a game where Lawrence is close to 40 pass attempts, and when that happens... Where is the game? In Detroit. They're much better at home. You know, he went into that game yesterday tied with Patrick Mahomes with most touchdowns at home.

Really? Wow. That's a good stat. I said to, again, the guy that's in the booth with Nansen Romo, I said, if I'm Jared Goff, I want the season to end right now. And I can just say, I tied Mahomes or something. Deshaun Watson, if he's still available. Gerald Everett is in shallow leagues.

His next three opponents are the Cardinals, the Raiders, and the Dolphins. Gerald Everett is in shallow leagues. His next three opponents are the Cardinals, the Raiders, and the Dolphins. They're all bottom four against tight ends. That's Gerald Everett. You could look at Kyron Williams, 49% rostered. Jalen Warren, 47%. You could stash Khalil Herbert and hope for something when he comes back.

Deion Jackson. He's not the week 16, though. Deion Jackson's a good handcuff at 32% Isaiah Spiller's at 19% those are some of the running backs you might be looking at and at wide receiver you could try to get Beckham

he's 60% Nico Collins 48% Jamison Williams oh no can't get him sorry Dotson if you're desperate Julio Jones maybe he gets going here 31%. I already mentioned Zay Jones at 30%. And that's about it.

Who do the Raiders have next week? The Raiders have... the... Chargers. Like Matt Collins? Matt Collins, not bad. Had nine targets last week. Yeah.

All right, one question for each game, including a Raiders game. Let's start with the Saints and the Niners. Rank the wide receivers in this game. The Saints and the Niners. I would go with Chris Olave, one. In PPR, Brandon Ayuk, two. Debo Samuel, three.

All three as top 24 options. In non-PPR, I would go with Debo Samuel, one. Chris Olave, two. Brandon Ayuk, three. Green Bay at Philadelphia. What is your overall confidence in the Packers offense? You heard Heath yesterday talking about who to sit, and he talked about Watson, Lazard,

and he just doesn't really seem to have a lot of faith in Rodgers in the passing game. What do you think? I agree. I think in three receiver leagues, you're starting both the top two Packers receivers. It's too hard to get away from them with the potential that they still have. You know, Watson can still find the end zone and get you maybe 30, 40 yards receiving on top of that, but they have just been shutting down opposing passing games. I think no – I know no quarterback has been over 18 fantasy points against them,

so that's a knock against Rodgers for sure. I think they're number one in like 10 points per game allowed to opposing receivers. It's ugly, you know, what they do there too. But, again, I think they're still number three receivers. I like Lazard slightly better because I think he'll get more targets. I think he'll have more catches. And so, you know, Watson's stat lines, the stat line last week, for example, you know,

if you take away the two touchdowns, it's kind of ugly, you know? So, let's see. It's one of those big plays. I think it's going to be tough. Or two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, he had the big play. Big plays. Oh, right.

Last week, he only had the 48 yards. Yeah. Two weeks ago, he had 107 yards, right? All right. That's Christian Watson we're talking about. Oh, right. Last week, he only had the 48 yards. Yeah. Two weeks ago, he had 107 yards, right? All right. That's Christian Watson we're talking about. Atlanta at Washington. Start or sit Antonio Gibson? I don't want to say he's a must start, but I think he's a definite start.

You know, it's hard to get away from what the production has been, what his role in the passing game will be if they're chasing points, for example. I think it's pretty clear he's the better running back of the two, even though Robinson may get more carries, but he's just more explosive at this point. So Gibson to me is, the way I had him ranked was in the same range as,

it's going to look silly when I say it, but Ezekiel Elliott and Devin Singletary, I had those three guys almost in a row. But you're looking at probably in the neighborhood of 17 to 20 touches, three to five catches. And if he scores, it'll be great. The Chargers are at the Cardinals. Do you like the wide receivers in this game?

Even though it's not a great matchup on paper, believe it or not. Chargers and Cardinals. I mean, Hopkins is Hopkins. But what about the other guys, including Keenan Allen? I keep getting a little bit more, I don't want to say excited about Keenan Allen, but confident in Keenan Allen because I think as he's getting healthier, his targets will rise. So I think you'll see probably in the neighborhood of around eight targets for him, eight targets

for Palmer, eight targets for Everett, and then whatever's left for Eckler. So, you know, I think Justin Herbert's throwing the ball 40 plus times and those guys will get their numbers. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, the chargers and Cardinals, you'd think great for wide receivers and really that's why, uh, that that's why the, uh, cornerback injury Byron Murphy's a big deal to me, but even without him, they did very well. I mean, I, you scored two touchdowns, but he had like cornerback injury. Byron Murphy is a big deal to me. But even without him, they did very well. I mean, Ayuk scored two touchdowns, but he had two catches.

Debo had seven for 67, I think. They were good last week. They're so bad against tight ends. Palmer would be the one that makes me the most nervous. Because of where he lines up. Only four wide receivers have had 70 yards against the Cardinals this year. Only four wide receivers have had 70 yards against the Cardinals this year.

Only five wide receivers have scored 14 or more PPR fantasy points. And then on the other side of the ball, the Chargers, their last five games, no wide receiver has more than eight targets against the Chargers. And in that stretch, only Brandon Ayuk has more than 67 yards.

It's so deceiving, though, because they played the Chiefs with their injuries, and Travis Kelsey destroyed them. Yeah. They played the Falcons, who don't throw the ball to their receivers. You know, it's a little misleading. Yeah, and I think that's the game that Metcalf got hurt,

and Lockett may have gotten hurt, too. They played Denver, Seattle, Atlanta, San Francisco, and Kansas City, but no wide receivers had more than eight targets in those games. And sometimes that does happen when you have teams that are terrible against the run. It's not like the Cardinals are going to go out there and this is going to be a James Conner 20 for a buck 20 game. Right, right. All right, the Raiders are at the Seahawks.

Starter sit Derek Carr. Three straight good games for Carr. Starter sit against Seattle at Seattle. He's a low-end starter. You know, I think once you get past the guys, like I like him better than Rodgers, for example. I would have started him over Cousins, which is going to look like a mistake. But like you said, he's been 21 or more points

in three straight games. He gives you no rushing production. So there's that, you know, there's no fallback for that. Um, and he's relying on one guy. And so it's basically like what Aaron Rogers was the last couple of years. He's relying on one guy, you know,

so Jacobs will get him probably 30, 40 yards out of the backfield. You know, he'll find some production from Mac Hollins, but if Devante Adams has no touchdowns, Derek Carr's going to have a bad game. If he gets two touchdowns, Derek Carr is going to be awesome.

You know, so it's kind of, that's where Derek Carr has been. You know, he got a touchdown in overtime from Devante going to have a bad game. If he gets two touchdowns, Derek Carr's going to be awesome. So that's where Derek Carr's been. He got a touchdown in overtime from Devontae Adams to put him over 20 points, so just keep that in mind against the Broncos. Okay, the last game is Denver at Carolina. Deontay Foreman or Dontay Foreman? I would lean more toward Dontay Foreman,

but I would not be surprised if he plays well because Denver stinks. You know, so it's a terrible offense. It's a defense that, you know, I think was certainly better before the Bradley-Chubb trade, but they've been so beat up. You know, so it's not just losing Chubb. It's just the injuries that they've had to deal with as well. So Foreman is not going to do what Jacobs did last week because Jacobs was a huge factor in the passing game. You know, it's just not Foreman's forte.

So does he score? Maybe. They only allowed four running backs to score touchdowns on the season. I think it's five total because one guy scored twice. So doesn't score. You're kind of looking at a very empty stat line for Deontay Foreman unless he goes for over 100 yards, which I believe he's only done twice since taking over from McCaffrey.

Yeah, the Broncos give up 4.75 yards per carry to running backs. That's really good. The bad news is the Raiders are the only team that has scored more than 17 points. No, 19 points against them. The Raiders have done it twice. And one time they needed that overtime touchdown.

But I think they're still the number one scoring defense in the NFL. I think they've shown some weaknesses the last two weeks. Like, they're giving up, they gave up those huge plays to Nick Westbrook, Akina, Devontae Adams all over them, Akina, sorry. So some cracks, but overall, you know, still very stingy defensively. Okay. I think you're hoping for Foreman that Darnold is their most competent quarterback to date

and they move the ball and he gets some touchdown chances. Would you start Deontay Foreman or Antonio Gibson? Gibson. Foreman's not in my top 24. Foreman or Cordell Patterson? Foreman. Foreman or Elijah Mitchell?

I'll tell you the guys I have trouble with in my rankings with Foreman were Pacheco because I think they're similar. Not a lot working the passing game. You're hoping for a lot of yards and touchdowns, which neither has done lately. Fournette because I like Rashad White better. So if Fournette plays, I think he'll be the second guy. Raheem Mostert, who I think is the second guy in Miami,

but he's got a great matchup. You're talking starter versus some potential backups or not established situations. What was the best thing you ate yesterday? The best thing I ate yesterday was, since I'm sure she's watching,

but it's the truth, my wife makes amazing dessert for Thanksgiving. She makes pumpkin pie, cherry pie, and both were unbelievable. Okay. That's... You. Pumpkin pie and cherry pie, you said?

You had both of them? Yes. Love Thanksgiving. Whatever the hell you want. I would say... I would say it's always the same for me. It's the corn souffle. It's just so damn good.

And the chocolate chip cookies. The rabbit paella was delicious last night. Wow. Knocked it out of the park. Saints at 49ers. Let's go. Stat of the game. Andy Dalton has thrown 30 or fewer passes in four straight games.

In those games, the... Well, there's a reason. Yeah, what's that? Taysom Hill's a thing. He is. And they've given up zero, 27, 20, and 20 points in those four games. So hopefully the Niners can put up some more points, and Andy Dalton will be forced to throw a little bit more,

so I don't have to complain about Chris Olave all the time. You ranked the wide receivers. You said Olave would be number one in full PPR, and Debo would be number one in non-PPR. We can stay on that for a little bit. Chris Olave, or what if Leonard Fournette's out? Would you start Rashad White or Chris Olave? I probably would start Rashad White

just because I think he could be 100 in a touchdown. He had 100 yards after Fournette left against Seattle. And that was a half of sharing with Fournette. I just think this is a really interesting matchup. I don't know what to make of the 49ers. They are not as good in the secondary since they lost Mosley. They are giving up more big

plays now than they did in the first half of the year, but they're still a very good team with a great front. They could really put a lot of pressure on Dalton. So, I mean, I guess your overall expectations for the Saints. And that brings us to Kamara, too, because Kamara's got three really disappointing games in a row. Those are probably his toughest matchups of the season. And that brings us to Camara too, because Camara's got three really disappointing games in a row. Those are probably

his toughest matchups of the season. They were Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and the Rams. And this one's much tougher. The Niners are incredible against the run. So, yeah, how much confidence do we have in Olave and Camara? I think you're starting Olave

until he has a stretch of games where he's disappointed you, and he certainly has not had that yet. Has he not? Because I would argue that he did. A stretch of games that disappointed fantasy-wise, he had one game with 10 points recently, and that was it. Okay. Am I missing something?

Because I'm seeing 10.2, 13.1, and 7.0. Did I make a typo here? Maybe it's two games. It was three in a row the 13 point game I would not say is disappointing well 10.2 13.1 and 7 fantasy points in three straight games that's not a guy

I have a ton of confidence in and then what did he have last week 21.2 he has that potential every week he does alright when I say stretch of games, it would have been

probably three in a row with 10 or less. Okay. All right. That's terrible. What about Camara? It's kind of, you know,

Dalvin Cook, going into this week, I didn't have a lot of faith, but you're starting him. Saquon Barkley, I didn't have a lot of faith, but you're starting him. Camara's the same way.

You know, you got to hope that he gets in the end zone. You've got to hope that he's more involved in the passing game. That's been the more frustrating thing is the lack of catches. Hopefully, Dalton goes back to doing that a little bit more because of the pass rush and the pressure that he's going to be under.

Again, he's not ranked as a top 12 running back for me. He's closer to 20. He's, I think, 15 or 16. I'm not benching Alvin Kamara. I just traded for Alvin Kamara. I traded Debo Sandler for Alvin Kamara. Yes, you did.

If I could say, all right, Jamie, you can have the 10.6 half PPR fantasy points that Jamal Williams scored yesterday against the Bills

or what's in the box with Alvin Kamara in half PPR? You in the box with Alvin Kamara? In half PBR. You take the box? Okay. Would you start Kamara? I didn't draft Alvin Kamara to get me 10.6.

Would you start Kamara or Conor? Conor. Yeah, great matchup. I'll give you some examples. I would have started Ramondre Stevenson over him. I did that. I would have started Tony Pollard over him. I did that.

I would have started Jeff Wilson over him. Okay. How about the tight ends? over him. I did that. I would have started Tony Pollard over him. I did that. I would have started Jeff Wilson over him. Okay. How about the tight ends, Jawan Johnson and Taysom Hill? I have no interest in Taysom Hill. Jawan Johnson is a touchdown or bust guy who scored in four of his last five games. The 49ers are amazing against tight ends, but

the way that I'm approaching tight end at this point, if I don't have a guy that I'm extremely confident in, and by that I mean Kelsey, Andrews, Schultz, Hawkinson, who am I missing? There's one more guy. Who'd you say? Andrews, Kelsey, Schultz, Hawkinson? Yeah. Not Goddard. Fryermuth?

Fryermuth, there it is. Those five guys. The rest, I think, is just who's playing well of late. And so I'll probably still start Komet because he's playing well of late. I'll still start Juwan Johnson because he's playing well of late. I'll take a chance on Austin Hooper in a deeper league because he's playing well of late. You know, it's just such a terrible position.

How about Garoppolo? How do you feel about Garoppolo this week? I don't want to say, again, similar to, I forget who you asked about before. Oh, Gibson. Must start guy, but it's hard to get away from him. I mean, you know, coming off a four touchdown game, he should have had a stretch. This should be six games in a row of 20 or more fantasy points.

If Brandon Ayuk had scored two games ago for them when he dropped the touchdown and he only had the rushing score. So he's playing well. His weapons are incredible. This is a matchup I think you can exploit, especially if the pass rush is not there with Cam Jordan and Davenport. So we'll see what happens there. But I think even those guys play, you're still starting Garoppolo based on how he's looked right now. I think they're the best team in the NFC. And that's saying a lot because Philadelphia's been fantastic. The Cowboys look really good, but I think

you just look at what San Francisco has if they throw everything at you and play their best game. I think it's better than anybody else's best game in that conference. So, Mariota... Garoppolo or Brady? Garoppolo. You've got to keep an eye on the weather in Cleveland, too. Garoppolo or Brady? Garoppolo. You got to keep an eye on the weather in Cleveland too.

Garoppolo or Lamar Jackson? Lamar. Garoppolo or Derek Carr? Garoppolo. By the way, I looked into the numbers on Jimmy Garoppolo because he is the top 10 quarterback. He's number 10 per game. And that's really high for him.

He's having a good year, but he's not doing, the one thing to me that he's doing differently, if you look at just the numbers, the yards per attempt, the attempts per game, the completion percentage,

the one thing that really jumps out, the touchdown percentage, it's the interception rate. He has really cut down on his turnovers, and that has been the biggest difference for Garoppolo this year.

Of course, he has incredible weapons, but statistically, if you just look at the stat sheet, the thing that you circle and say, wow, that's different, is the interception rate for him. It's going to be fascinating what happens if they make a strong

playoff run, what they do. Yeah, I know. The running backs, McCaffrey, yes, Elijah Mitchell. He has 27 carries in his last two games compared to 21 for Christian McCaffrey. Um, starter sit Elijah Mitchell again, desperate situation, you know, non PPR leagues. Can he get you eight points like he did a week ago? I think that's probably fair knowing that if they're playing with the lead, he seems to be their fourth quarter guy.

So I don't want to trust Elijah Mitchell with Christian McCaffrey healthy, but, you know, desperate times, he's not horrible. If Mo Sturt plays, would you start Mo Sturt or Mitchell? Mo Sturt. Would you start... If both Bucs running backs played,

would you start Fournette or Mitchell? Fournette. How about you don't like Foreman, Deontay Foremanette or Mitchell? Fournette. How about you don't like Foreman? Deontay Foreman or Elijah Mitchell? Foreman. Alright. And Debo and IU... Mitchell's not going to catch the ball. He needs to score. 27 carries. He hasn't done that yet. Isn't that

Foreman? Not going to catch the ball. He needs to score. Yeah, but you say 27 carries. It was 18 and 9. I don't think the 18 is sustainable. 9 is more realistic. I was really just saying the 27 carries. It was 18 and 9. I don't think the 18 is sustainable. 9 is more realistic. I was really just saying the 27 carries to illustrate that he actually had 6 more than McCaffrey in the last game. No, I understand why you did it,

but again, I think if you're just breaking it down, he's probably closer to 9 carries than he is to 18, and I think Foreman, if things go right for him, he's 15-plus carries. Okay, Debo and Ayuk are number two wide receivers. Do you like the Seahawks receivers or the Niners receivers better? The Seahawks receivers. I think there's just more sustainable production for those two guys.

Start George Kittle. He is top six in both formats, but this is a tough matchup. I would use Kittle in that category, too, as I feel comfortable with. But you know there's a lot of downside, and he's got this tough, tough matchup. So, I mean, I... Sorry, you cut out. Aside from that group, you can replace those other

guys. You're not replacing Kittle. You're not benching Kittle. Would you bench him for Friar Muth? If you have that scenario, yes. Okay. I knew that game was going to take a while. Let's go to Green Bay at Philadelphia. Green Bay at Philadelphia. Here's the stat of the game.

I don't think anyone's going to care about, but if it happens, if this trend holds up, it would be a bad thing. So the Eagles allow the fourth fewest receiving yards per game to running backs. Aaron Jones has already faced five teams that are top seven in that stat. Okay. He's faced a lot of teams that are really good against pass catching

running backs. And in those five games, Aaron Jones had a huge game against Washington, nine catches, 53 yards and two touchdowns. In the other four games, he had no more than 20 receiving yards. So this in that regard, as a receiver, is a tough matchup for Aaron Jones, and he has not done well in four of five tough matchups against pass, you know, for pass-catching running backs. Is he still a confident start for you? I mean, is he like Kamara and Cook,

where you have to start them by default, or is Aaron Jones a guy that you're actually excited to start? He's closer. I would say he's more like Barkley than he is to Kamara and Cook because I think the thing that you would hope for the Packers is while the Eagles are trying to address their run defense, I still think that's the weakness of their defense. And so how do you make things better for a guy with a broken thumb

against a good secondary? Well, you run the ball. So that would be my my game plan i don't know what matt lafleur's thinking so trying to establish aaron jones on the ground and see if you can make some production there but they're just offense it's just so weird all season you know the last two weeks they look better but they've been better at home than they have been on the road and they're back on the road again so i don't know i don't you know i know, I'm again, I'm starting Aaron Jones or miles Sanders. I started Aaron Jones over miles Sanders. Cause at least, you know, there's a role in the passing game, whether it's good or bad, he's going to get catches. Miles Sanders has one catch in his last billion games. Um, you know, it's just not, not good.

Now I do think Sanders is a decent play this week because they should have a lead. This is a run defense that I think is not very good. And hopefully they realize, you know, I read a story where when they, I think it was the Philly inquirer that what, what happened to them last week was their offense was just so disjointed and they went back to running the ball. Now it wasn't all Sanders. It was Boston Scott. It was also Jalen hurts, but that was their formula for success last year. Just the comments after the game where we simplified things. We went back to our roots.

I don't know. That could be something that they piggyback off and get back to giving Miles Sanders the ball a little bit more. Again, if they have a lead, he gets the opportunity to get some of those carries. I think Sanders finds the end zone. I think he gets 80 plus yards on the ground.

Well, that's a big game. Maybe a catch or two. That's a big game. 80 yards and a touchdown. Yeah, for him, certainly. He is pretty touchdown dependent. And let's be real. I think he has two catches in his last five games.

It's crazy. I love AJ Dillon this week, by the way. Yeah. Well, you didn't even fall for that. I thought you were going to like you do and i was like no heck no i do not love aj zillow this week uh sit him okay how about you know not not to use the word bust just disappointments oh huge bust huge bust and you know what the worst part is i can't even drop him because he's a handcuff he's a high-end handcuff he and kareem hunt it's like

those guys absolutely stink. They should go nowhere near your lineup. And Madison. Madison, at least you took a lot later than Dylan, you know, and later than Hunt. You knew what you were getting into. What's that? It's like you can't drop those guys.

I know. It's so frustrating. You knew what you were getting into with Madison, but the other two, man, I'd be so mad. It took me a long time to drop Samaj P. Ryan, and now I hate myself for it. If I did that with Dylan and Hunt, I'd hate myself even more.

All right, so Aaron Rodgers. I had to drop Madison in one league this past week, and there was one point where Dalvin Cook got up slowly. I was like, oh, here it is. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers has placed four teams that are currently top 10 against quarterbacks. Actually, I don't know if that's still the case with the Giants after last night's game, but they were going into the game.

And he scored 19 to 21 points in three of those four games, which is what he's done in all but three games this year. So that was the Patriots, the Giants, and the Bills. He scored 13.8 points against the Jets. That was a bad game and a tough matchup. The Eagles are tougher. They're giving up the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. Where do you have Rodgers this week, and

do you think he can get you the 19 or more points that he's gotten almost every week? I think it's 7 out of 10, or 8 out of 11, rather. Yeah, and if he does, that would be the most points that anyone scored against the Eagles all year. I think 18 points is probably where you're looking at. I wonder if

they lose this game, maybe one more, does he shut it down? Playing with a broken thumb? I don't think so. If they're out of playoff contention? First of all, it's very If they're out of playoff contention? Well, first of all, it's very hard to be out of playoff contention in the NFC.

If you're under 500, you're in playoff contention. So I don't think they're there yet. They're 4-7? Yes. Or 4-6? No, they haven't had their bye. So they're 4-7? Yeah, like Washington is the first team out

and Washington's 5-6 or something like that. Yeah, Washington's basically playing an elimination game in a lot of ways this week. Washington can't be 5-6. They've had their byes. No, they're above 500. They're 6-5. 6-4.

6-4? Washington is 6 and five. Okay. They haven't had their bye then. Am I crazy? They have not had their bye. Okay. Green Bay is four.

Whatever. That's a conversation for another show. Rodgers is... I'm not starting Rodgers if I don't have to. Okay. Packers, running backs. We talked about Packers. Wide receivers.

How about ranking the wide receivers in this game? I assume that A.J. Brown is number one. Who would you go with? Brown, Juan Smith, two, Lazard, three, Watson, four. Devontae Smith or a 49ers wide receiver? The 49ers, guys. How do you feel about Smith?

Honestly, Brown. Brown has been great. He's number 14 per game. Devontae Smith is number 31 per game in PPR, but yardage is an issue for both of these guys. There's not a lot of targets to go around here. So talk to me about the Eagles wide receivers. Yeah, Brown, I think, you know, we'll make amends for his bad game in the fumble last week.

I think he's, you know, a very much a primetime type of player, much like Justin Jefferson. You know, Jefferson like Justin Jefferson. Jefferson talked about that. I think Brown will probably relish that opportunity as well. Smith, I think, he's had a very rollercoaster type of season. I think he's benefited the last two games without Goddard being there. So maybe he's gotten a slight boost.

I don't know if it's necessarily reflected in targets, but just in big plays or scoring plays, opportunity plays. So I think low low in number two, high in number three receiver for Smith, kind of basically where their season is, their numbers are for the season, you know, 15 and 31. All right. Sit the tight ends. And the Eagles DST is not as high as I thought they'd be.

They are 13th for you and 13th for Heath, 7th for Dave. That's interesting. They haven't been good the last couple weeks. Were they not good last week? They were not good the week before against Washington. They were good last week. You know what? They had a lot of sacks. They have 16 sacks in their last four week. You know what? They had a lot of sacks.

They have 16 sacks in their last four games. You know what? The Packers have not been a good matchup since Christian Watson emerged the last two weeks. He's giving them something, you know. Let's see if they can keep it up. All right. Don't drop the Eagles,

but they're not as high as they normally would be, the DST. All right. Take our last break here. When we come back, we've got four games left, and we'll start with Atlanta, Washington. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Welcome back to the show, everybody. Atlanta's at Washington, and an injury that's kind of flown under the radar.

The Falcons put starting defensive tackle Taequann Graham on IR. Statistically, their run defense has actually been better without him on the field, but their depth gets hurt at defensive tackle. Who are the tough calls in this game, Atlanta and Washington? Can London take advantage of the targets potentially coming his way with Kyle Pitts out? Can Cordell Patterson get more work than Tyler Algier and be more of a factor on the ground?

Curtis Samuel, I guess, for the other side. For the most part the most part, you know, you're starting for Washington. I guess Brian Robinson, maybe too, but I don't want to trust any Falcons to be honest with you. And I don't want to start anyone for Washington aside from McLaurin and Gibson. Are we just sitting all our Falcons? I would like to, you know, I mean, Mariota has done a nice job living kind of in that 17 to 24 range, but two of his good games have come against the Panthers. So we'll see what this Washington defense continues to do. I've had some trepidation dropping the Commander's defense for two reasons. One, I think it's a decent matchup, and then they get the Giants next week.

Then they have their body. And then the Giants after that, though i you cannot drop the commander's ds well but there are so many good defenses this week and you know the the the falcons for what it's worth you know mario has had some interceptions lately but he doesn't really turn the ball over a lot and uh you know the like the chiefs are better this week. I think the Dolphins are better this week. You know, there's another one that was available. I forget.

Well, the Broncos could be better. No, but there's another one you could have picked up this week. Why am I blanking on this stuff? There's another defense you could have picked up this week, along with those guys, the Chiefs,

the Dolphins, all the Steelers. I like Steelers better as well. So, plus they don't have a bike coming up. If the Giants get healthy, the Giants might be able to still sustain some production. I think the commanders are—DST is a good play. To answer your question in a very roundabout way, I would avoid the Falcons if you can.

Oh my gosh. The last four weeks, Jonathan Taylor scored 5.6 fantasy points. Dalvin Cook scored 13.6 because he caught a touchdown. Miles Sanders scored 5.4. Damian Pierce scored 3.7. That's what Cordaro Patterson is looking at right now. This run defense is just destroying it at the moment. You do have no Kyle Pitts, but Drake London is not someone that we really trust. You might want to

hold on to him and see what happens. Taylor Heineke on the other end. Any interest in Taylor Heineke? I think this offense has kind of shown you what their blueprint is. They want to run the ball and limit the pass attempts. And, you know, Heineke, it's almost like the anti-Derek Carr, where Heineke's getting production from his number one receiver, but they're not scoring touchdowns.

You know, so Carr's getting production from Adante Adams and finding the end zone. Heineke's getting McLaurin, you know, 100 yards, but he's just not scoring. So there's no touchdowns available. We need eight or more targets from Terry McLaurin. If he gets that, he will have a big game,

but you know, there have been exactly seven or more wide, seven or more targets. Listen to this. There've been 16 wide receivers with seven or more targets against the Falcons. 15 of them have scored more than 12 PPR fantasy points. That 12 is not great,

but that's a floor. All of you could just get seven targets. And McLaurin has potential to have a really big game. The Falcons give up the second most fantasy points to wide receivers. So he's top 12 for everyone in both formats. Gibson, I'll give you some more Gibsons. Gibson or we'll do wide receivers here. Gibson or Josh Palmer if Mike Williams doesn receivers here. Gibson or Josh Palmer

if Mike Williams doesn't play? Gibson. Gibson or Debo Samuel? Gibson. Okay, Gibson or Christian Kirk against Baltimore? Gibson. Okay, and Curtis Samuel

or like a Zay Jones? Samuel. Donovan Peoples-Jonesovan Peoples-Jones. Peoples-Jones. All right. I think we can finish this game. You're sitting Logan Thomas, right? Yes.

Start the Commander's DST. Chargers are at Arizona. And only Detroit and Cleveland allow more points per game than these two teams. We'll say the Chargers had a very good practice report. A couple of players who left last week's

game with an injury. Nessir Adderley, their safety. Kenneth Murray, their linebacker. Both practiced on Thursday. So did Trey Pipkins, their left tackle. And Gerald Everett practiced in full. So hopefully they can come into this game with good health. Alright. So Herbert or Kyler?

Herbert. Connor or Kyler? Herbert. Connor or Eckler? Connor or Keenan Allen or Josh Palmer? Connor. That much faith. Is Keenan Allen not just an automatic top 12 guy in PPR? What is keeping you from ranking him there? I want to make sure he's Keenan Allen again.

He's crept up from where I started this week, which was around 24 to 20 to I think now I have him at 15. Okay. So he's getting there. But I want to see what he looks like, certainly what he looks like if Mike Williams does not play. But I'm hopeful. I can't really deal with this number one wide receiver against Arizona thing.

Because it's been almost two years now. They almost always do a good job against the number one wide receiver. But they don't have Byron Murphy. And that's, I think, the last two games they haven't. They held Cooper Cup to three catches for negative one yard on five targets with John Walford. And Debo Samuel had seven catches for 57 yards on nine targets. He also had the rushing touchdown.

So, you know, it's annoying, but I want to believe in Josh Palmer, Jamie, because when Josh Palmer gets eight or more targets, he is almost always coming through. He scored 13 or more PPR fantasy points in five of six games with eight or more targets. He's had, and I think there's a difference between him playing without Mike Williams and him playing without Keenan Allen, because in the three games without Mike Williams, he's got 106 yards, 44 yards, and 106 yards and two touchdowns. So, you know, I really want to love him.

But there are, you know, I'm holding back a little bit. So I guess give me your thoughts on Palmer. Well, I think it's more outside receivers than it is slot receivers. So I think Keenan Allen, while by definition will be the number one guy, I don't think he's going to be shut down. I also think that, you know, this is not a high profile guy, whereas Mike Williams would be more of a high profile guy. So will they, you know, roll coverage or be a little bit more concerned about Palmer?

Now you would think coming off the game that he just had, that probably the answer would be yes. Now he provides something a little bit different or certainly did last week that, you know, they haven't done for the majority of the season factoring in Mike Williams in this time is explosive plays down the field this has been a very much a dink and dunk type of passing game which is frustrating when you have Justin Herbert which is why some people are calling for a coaching change if they don't make the playoffs and it would be a great destination for Sean Payton so we'll see what happens there but

in any event I think for for what Palmer provides you know there'll be some shots down the field you saw that last week hopefully carries over and so i think you know if you if you're hoping for last week you're going to be disappointed if you're hoping for what he's typically giving you with eight targets which is you know a floor of 13 or more ppr points it's a pretty good place to live with josh palmer you know for a guy that in some cases he even picked up off the waiver wire this week because he was dropped, knowing that Mike Williams and Keenan Al were back. Yeah. And the Cardinals do not get beat deep.

That's the thing that I always say about them. They are terrible with yak, but they do not get beat deep. They give up the most yak in football. Gerald Everett. So Cole Komet or Gerald Everett? Everett. Juwan Johnson or Gerald Everett. Everett. Juwan Johnson or Gerald Everett.

Everett. David Njoka or Gerald Everett. Everett. George Kittle or Gerald Everett. Gerald Everett. Oh man. He, uh, Daryl Everett. Oh man. He, uh,

yeah. Okay. All right. Kyler Murray is kind of a low end starter for you. Who are some guys that you have ranked ahead of Kyler Murray? So if he, if he gets another full practice in today, I'll move Kyle up a spot or two,

but, um, it's not a bad week for quarterbacks, you know? So I would start grapple over him for now i would start uh gino over him for now i would start herbert lamar jackson over him for now you know so i think if you have kyler murray starting him though you know so it's it's one of those things where you should have a backup plan in place you know hopefully have for the last couple weeks um but the fact that he's playing

he's playing against his defense you know practicing full it's it's all pointing toward you know i i hope let's get out with a good game, going to the bi-week, get even healthier and, and come back and have a strong finishing kick. James Connor is between 14th and 16th in the PPR rankings. In his last two games, he has 24 touches and 16 touches. He has scored in both of them. He faced three touchdowns. In fact, he faced two great run defense. This time he faces arguably the worst run defense in football. I don't think that's going to matter

from his per carry basis. He may go from 2.8 to 3.4. Yeah, but you're just getting a lot of work and should be a high-scoring game, so I get it. The Cardinals' wide receivers start Hopkins. I asked you this earlier, but give it to me again. Like we're not expecting Rondell Moore to play.

So give me the scenarios with Dorch, with Marquise Brown, without those guys. What are you doing with the Cardinals wide receivers? Dorch would be a high-end number three receiver in PPR. Somebody I would probably look to avoid in non-PPR because that position has not scored a lot of touchdowns. So you're hoping for a hundred yard game, which has not exactly been the norm either, but it could be an eight catch for 70 yard type of game. We've seen that a few times this year,

whether it from Dorch or from Rondell Moore as a slot receiver for the Cardinals. If there is no Dorch and more, I don't know what they do. My guess would be as they put Hopkins inside and they play, you know, green and, and Robbie Anderson more on the outside, but you're not trusting those guys

outside of desperation plays. I would be a little bit more interested in Trey McBride, but again, we're talking desperation at the tight end position, so not a lot of faith in that spot. I think you're going to see a 10-catch game for DeAndre Hopkins, and then they'll cobble it together with whoever else is there. Well, I picked up Dortch in a few leagues. You spent some time on him, too.

I did, yeah. Well, okay, that's a league where I'm 5-6. Terrible wide receivers. Just, I don't know what the hell happened. And we have to start basically four of them. It's three receivers and a flex. In that type of scenario, I mean, Dortch would be an absolute layup to me.

Yeah, of course. Four games he's played without Rondell Moore, including last week with Moore left on the first drive, he scored at least 13.3 PPR fantasy points. Did you talk about Marquise Brown, though? Oh, I'm sorry. If Brown plays, I think then you feel a little bit better about him if there is no Dorch and there is no Moore.

So he would be still a number three receiver, but certainly worth, worth using. And especially in this type of league that you're talking about, any type of league like that. Oh yeah. Three receiver league for sure. And they said he's going to be on a pitch count, which I never fully believe,

but it might be true. And sit, train, make, pitch counts for receivers are always weird to me because if he's on the field and getting target, it's the same thing. Like I have this stupid argument about target share.

If you, if your quarterback's throwing a lot, target share is high grade. If your quarterback's not throwing a lot, target share doesn't mean anything to me. If he's on a pitch count, he's getting targets. As long as he's running routes, it's like route participation. As long as he's getting targets when he's on the field, that's what matters to me.

I don't really agree with your take on target share. I think target share is valuable to know because if you can... It is valuable to know, but to tell me that Darnell Mooney is the target share for the Bears, will they throw the ball 25 times a game? Well, yeah. Nobody's taking that stat

and saying Darnell Mooney's a top 10 receiver or anything like that. It's just that you're just going, okay, well, if they can actually start throwing the ball more, then you start to see more potential. That's what I said. If the team is throwing the ball a lot, then I want to know who's the target share leader. But when it's certain teams that don't throw the ball,

I don't care that he's got a 30% target share. Who cares? Yeah, my issue with target share is that it changes. You know, I mean, like Drake London. Drake London had a very high target share, and all of a sudden he has a terrible target share. And I was saying, well, if they just start throwing the ball more, Drake London could be really good.

No, didn't happen. Las Vegas is at Seattle. Very interesting game here. You know, Las Vegas is bad, but they keep it close most weeks. And Seattle, I think, is very good coming off a bye. And let's see how they bounce back from a disappointing loss to the Bucs

a couple of weeks ago. Derek Carr is in the 15 range. Jamie talked about him a little bit earlier. Three straight games with 21.9 or more points. And Seattle is a decent matchup. They're 21st against quarterbacks. In fact, three of the last four quarterbacks scored 20 to 23 fantasy points.

And that's exactly where Carr has been in his last three games. Jacobs is a start. Ken Walker's... I think they're both top five for you. Yeah. Walker's number two for me in non-PPR. I won't even get too into that. I think it's pretty clear.

Jacobs, look, he was playing great for the majority of the season. He had that little stretch where he was struggling a little bit, but it's the same thing that happened to him last year. Last year, it was Waller and Drake going down, and he became such a huge factor in the passing game. Now you have Waller and Renfro down. His targets and production in the passing game

has just spiked. So if we finish up on the Raiders here, Adams is the man. Great target share. Adams is the man, and I think Derek Carr has just benefited from just focusing all of his targets on Devontae Adams insane target numbers the last three weeks

Mack Hollins up and down up and down he'd be behind Dortch for me if Dortch played what about for you oh totally yeah I mean Hollins is a number four receiver but there's there's some potential there again you saw nine targets last week it was somewhat of a similar situation because Collins is a number four receiver, but there's some potential there. Again, you saw nine targets last week. It was somewhat of a similar situation because Tariq Wolin is nowhere at the level of Patrick Sertan, but he's a very good young cornerback. And so, you know, if Carr is throwing away from him, then maybe we get another, you know,

high target situation for Matt Collins. You know, so not a huge stat line I would anticipate, but this is such a barren receiving court right now. Foster Moreau was a non-factor last week until one catch in overtime. It's basically Adams and Jacobs, and so there's some scraps here for Collins if he gets the targets.

Foster Moreau against the team that battles with the Cardinals to be the worst against tight ends. The Seahawks and the Cardinals are those two great matchups. Starter said Foster Morrow. I think if you are absolutely stuck, you go back to him because of the matchup, you know,

so that's kind of the, the, I would put him in the same range as, you know, behind these guys, but same range as Jawan Johnson and Austin Hooper, just because at least those other guys have been a little bit more involved in their offenses recently.

You know, we have a pretty good sample more involved in their offenses recently. You know, we have a pretty good sample size of, of a foster, um, with no Darren Waller. And he had one good game. Uh, you mean this year,

last year he was good. You know, last year he had like two huge games out of, I think four or four or five without, without wall. It's been disappointing. You thought you would have thought without Renfro, without Waller that you'd have something big there,. It's been disappointing. You would have thought without Renfro, without Waller,

that you'd have something big there, but it's been disappointing. All right. How about Geno Smith? Must-start guy this week? Must-start guy this week. You know, it's... Two quarterbacks have been under 20 fantasy points.

One was Trevor Lawrence with 18. One was Russell Wilson, who just Russell Wilsoned and got you nine points last week so I think this defense is certainly proven enough that if you're competent quarterback and have the ability to make plays with your receivers which certainly Gino Smith has shown you

that he's going to have a good game you know it's not a great game so it feels like it's the layup of all layups I know right and that's what I was saying to Heath we were arguing of course about Metcalf earlier this week because he has Metcalf 25th. And I don't remember.

I was arguing. I think Paris Campbell and DK Metcalf. And he's like, Metcalf, this, that. It's like you're not even giving him the Raiders bump. I get that Metcalf's been frustrating with yards, no question. But let's give someone the Raiders bump here. The Raiders are the worst. They're just so bad.

It could be a two touchdown game for McCaff. But you know what's weird? I don't know how to explain this, but they've only given up more than 14 PPR points to a wide receiver three times this year. It is their three most recent. Actually, no. Is it only twice this year?

Yeah. I don't know. It's something like that. They're not that bad against wide receivers. They're not giving up a ton of points. I do think they're bad, but it's not showing up in the fantasy numbers. Can I give you my Metcalf thoughts?

Who's mentioning Metcalf or Lockett? No, I'm not. But let me give you my Metcalf thoughts because you've got four games for Metcalf thoughts? Who's benching Metcalf or Lockett? No, I'm not. Let me give you my Metcalf thoughts because you've got four games for Metcalf this year with 34 to 37 yards. That is really bad, right? That's not counting. I took out the game

against the Chargers where he barely played. He left with an injury early. Those four games were against Denver, Patrick Sertan, San Francisco, Emmanuel Mosley, and two games against Arizona, who he never does, San Francisco, Emmanuel Mosley, and two games against Arizona, who he never does well against. So, yes, I am making excuses for DK Metcalf, but those were four terrible matchups for him.

I can't wait to argue with Heath about that at a later date. All right. Any interest in Noah Fant? Noah, thank you. Okay. Noah can't so that's that game is pretty easy I mean should be some easy start sit decisions there

Metcalf Lockett Adams both running backs Geno Smith they are must starts Derek Carr is an okay start Foster Morrow

he is he is 15th for Jamie and Heath 19th for Dave and Matt Collins desperation play last game I think Denver Carolina yeah last game well you said the best for last

and I always save the worst for last I try to save the easiest game for last in terms of fantasy decisions are there any tough calls in this game? Latavius Murray is, I think, tough as a must-start guy because you clearly see a path to success here for him. He's better than Foreman, but I'd still be a little bit concerned

that it's such a low-scoring game for these two teams that if Murray does not score, it could be a little bit concerned that it's such a low scoring game for these two teams that if Murray does not score it could be a little ugly but a lot of touches coming his way 20 touches should be easy if he's healthy because he did that last week with Melvin Gordon playing the majority of the first half so you know you're seeing probably 15 carries you're seeing probably five catches you know he's he's going to be decent and I think Corlinton, as long as there's no Jerry Judy, is a must-start guy. Greg Dolchitz is tough because you're hoping for him to start to pick things up again, but

clearly the last two games have been frustrating after that first three-game appearance for him. And then for the other side, who can you trust? Foreman's a flex. DJ Moore's a borderline number three receiver. You hope he gets the Darnold bump, but he's going to face Patrick Sertan most likely, which is going to be ugly.

Carolina played its first game without Dante Jackson, their best cornerback last week at Baltimore, and Demarcus Robinson had nine catches, 128 yards, and nine targets. That's another injury that we don't talk about. Jackson's out for the year, but it's a potentially pretty big one, and I hope it gets Cortland Sutton going here because last week was fine. Five caches for 80 yards. I'm not going to complain about that, but to call him a must start in a week where there are no players on a buy, I'd like for him to have some upside Jamie and considering Russell Wilson's thrown six touchdown passes this year.

I do question the upside. I do question the must-start tag. You might, you know, for example, if Rondell Moore were healthy, the kind of guy that gives you this very high floor and PPR, you know, maybe I should use a player that's actually healthy. I'm not going to use Dortch. But Josh Palmer, you know, is Corlin Sutton really a must-start guy, or is he just

a safe, low-end number two guy? I think he's safe. You know, I think as long as Judy's out, you know, I think five for 80 is probably realistic. I think, you know,

there there's, there's a chance for more. Um, you, you said it, he's doesn't find the end zone, you know, maybe,

uh, Russell Wilson who went to NC state going back to that area, you know, it gives him a boost. Who knows? Um, he's been, he's been bad though.

I mean, Russell Wilson has not supported his receivers. It's, it's been an ugly season. been an ugly season and so you know i think you've just seen enough of sutton with judy banged up that that's the hope is that he gives you safe floor hopefully high ceiling if he scores you're going to be thrilled about it so i like him for example i like him better than the packers guys i like him better than the 49ers guys just because i think those guys cannibalize each other a little bit um so he. He's a number two receiver, but it's the hope of the volume being there and that Russell Wilson looks confident.

If Judy plays, who do you start? Judy or Sutton? I would still start Sutton because I don't think Judy's 100%. If Judy's playing, he's playing at being a good teammate and being out there for his guys because two DNPs on Wednesday and Thursday typically doesn't mean full on Friday.

So I'd be nervous. And if Judy plays, even though you'd rank Sutton higher than Judy, would you drop him into what, the 30s or what? Yeah, I would have Judy probably as a low-end number three receiver for this week. No, I meant Sutton. Where would you drop Sutton? I would have Sutton behind the 49ers guys in the same range as the Packers guys

in the Peoples-Jones-Parris-Campbell range. If Judy does not play, who's a better flex, Cortland Sutton or Latavius Murray? I would probably lean Sutton in PPR, but it's close. Okay. Murray's in a good spot.

I don't want to understamp him. He really is. Yeah, I know. Would you start Antonio Gibson or Latavius Murray? I still like Gibson a little bit better It's close. Okay. Murray's in a good spot. I don't want to understamp him. He really is. Yeah. Would you start Antonio Gibson or Latavius Murray? I still like Gibson a little bit better because I think Murray is just a bad offense. It's just a bad offense. Here are the combined carries. Just take away the touchdowns from Murray

and look at those numbers. Oh, it's awful. But here are the combined carries for Murray and Gordon. But by the way, you could make the same argument about Gibson. Gibson's running very poorly, too. Murray and Gordon have combined for 18, 19, 23, 16, and 25 carries in their last five games.

They've combined for four, four, seven, and nine catches in their last four games. So, yes, the touches, as Jamie said, could be really exciting. And the Panthers are allowing 4.7 yards per carry to running backs, the sixth most fantasy points to running backs. Finally, I can be happy about starting Latavius Murray in our 2QB league. Yeah. You know, if it came down to it, I'm going to have to start both. But if it came down to it, I'd probably start him over Russell Wilson in that league.

Yeah, I'll give you like one decision I had to make in the league yesterday where I have Jamal Williams, Samajay Piran, and Latavius Murray, and I benched Williams with the opportunity to play PPR to play Piran, but I did that knowing that if Piran does not go, I have Latavius Murray to fall back on. Well, I think that is it for this game

because, yeah, we talked about Foreman and you're sitting the passing game. Hooray for Sam Darnold. Good luck to you, Mr. Darnold. They have a bye next week, so Darnold maybe can hopefully keep that job for those two quarterback leagues or something. Why am I talking about this?

I hope he plays well just for DJ Moore. Let's get a strong finisher. And have a wonderful weekend, everybody. We've got the mailbag. We're recording it a little bit earlier today at noon Eastern if you want to watch it live on Friday. Otherwise, you'll hear it on Saturday. For Jamie and Zach Brooke, our producer, I'm Adam. Talk to you later.