Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): CeeDee Lamb, Jauan Jennings, Rico Dowdle and More! (11/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Reviewing the Commanders-Eagles dud to start the show and wondering if we should be worried about Jayden Daniels going forward or if the tough matchups are to blame. We also discuss DeVonta Smith and... every other relevant storyline before giving you your news and notes (12:10) to get you ready for the weekend ... One Question for Each Game (19:35)! Is Jordan Love an easy start this week? Do we like Cedric Tillman or Nick Chubb? Are we starting Jauan Jennings? Rhamondre Stevenson? Rico Dowdle? CeeDee Lamb? ... Start or Sit for Packers-Bears (24:40), Jaguars-Lions (33:45), Browns-Saints (44:00), Seahawks-49ers (51:35), Rams-Patriots (58:05) and Texans-Cowboys (1:07:40) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:55 to fantasy football today presented by bed MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Dave Richard is here. I am Adam Hazer, Jamie Eisenberg will be joining us shortly. Dave, here are some stats to know. Give me a sound effect to convey your enthusiasm or whatever feeling you're feeling about these stats. Here we go. In their last four games,
Starting point is 00:02:14 the Cowboys are allowing 10.3 passing yards per attempt. That is by far the worst in the NFL. And the difference between Dallas and the second worst team is the same as the difference between the second worst team and the 19th worst team. That's how much worse they are than everyone else. And you want to sound for that. Okay, next stat in their last. This one actually this one blows my mind in the net their last three games since Cooper Cup and Puka Nakua returned. The Rams have have only one
Starting point is 00:02:47 play of longer than 30 or more yards and it was the overtime touchdown by DeMarcus Robinson. They've been one of the least explosive teams in the NFL since the return of their two receivers and Kyron Williams has gone two straight games without a carry of even 10 yards. and Kyron Williams has gone two straight games without a carry of even 10 yards. Okay, Jamie, Jamie's here, Dave, sad effect. Jamie, Nick Chubb has averaged 3.3 or fewer yards per carry
Starting point is 00:03:20 for three straight games for the first time in his career. Oh, how about that? He should retire. He should retire. Come to Saints. They allow five point two yards per carry. Let's go. Final stat before we get into last night's game. Saquon Barkley was outscoring both of those guys combined. Jaden Daniels, both of those guys who am I talking about? Both quarterbacks combined.
Starting point is 00:03:43 He was outscoring them combined until the two point conversion at the very end there. So let's get into Philadelphia and Washington. Yeah, that's kind of a disappointment other than Saquon Barkley. Brian Robinson was good as well. Zach Ertz. Oh yeah, yeah, Zach Ertz, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 That was a heck of a two point conversion catch by the way. Yeah. All right. Ertz earned those fantasy points in the last minute of the game. Yeah. Zach Hertz. Yeah. That was a heck of a two point conversion catch by the way. Yeah. All right. Those fantasy points in the last minute of the game. Yeah. But you know what? Great defense. It wasn't like a sloppy game. Wasn't turn over. It wasn't like they were turning the ball over. Just two good two teams playing good defense. Jamie takeaways from this one. I mean, take one was amazing. Sorry, Giants fans. Happy for him.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It was a it was, you know, a good game for J. Happy forums. It was a good game for Jalen Hurts. Not a great game for Jalen Hurts. We obviously have a Devontae Smith issue. It would have been nice if he had broken that catch over the middle. It was really his only chance, I think. I thought Dallas Goddard looked good. Dave Menton, Zach Ertz. I thought he had a chance to play well, just, you know, preventing game narrative, all that stuff. Terrible for Terry McLaurin, my gosh. I feel bad for anybody that, you know, started him. I.E. everybody? Just, you know, the lack of even attempt to try and get him going
Starting point is 00:04:57 was just ridiculous. Like, why? Why not? Why? Eckler was great. Robinson, like you said, you know, scored touchdown. So for people that started him, I think the thing that, um, you know, you look at what this watched an offense moving forward is, and we touched on this on beyond the box score yesterday is, uh, Cliff Kingsbury, you go back to his days in college, you go back to his time in Arizona Yes, and it's starting to play itself out now. Yeah, he gets figured out a little bit and you know his teams
Starting point is 00:05:29 Sort of limp to the finish line and I hope that that's not gonna happen with Jane Daniels And he's not gonna hit a little bit of a rookie wall on top of it. So There's a little bit of a mini by you know with the Thursday night game Go back to the drawing board a little bit, hit the reset button, get him a little bit more comfortable. I don't know how healthy he is, you know, with, with Daniel's also with the rib injury, you know, they mentioned on the broadcast last night, you saw I'm still getting attention there, hurt his finger in the game too.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So, you know, is he going to deliver fantasy championships? I hope so, but you got to maybe make some, some backup plans just in case. I would argue that if this were his first game, none of us would be surprised because he looked like a rookie. The problem is that this isn't his first game, and we've seen him look like a veteran before. So it kind of feels like he's taking a step back overall, and maybe that's in conjunction with the rib injury.
Starting point is 00:06:20 He says that it's not. But I thought that he missed open receivers. Uh, I thought he had some off target throws. I think his offensive line ended up being a pretty big liability, but I think the Eagles are going to make every offensive line look like a pretty big liability. Uh, the fourth down play, that was a botch snap. He said it was on because of his cadence. That was a bad Michael. Yeah. I mean, I don't mind that they went for it. I think it was the right. No, I agree. But I just, I don't think it was meant to went for it. I think it was the right thing. I agree.
Starting point is 00:06:46 But I just, I don't think it was meant to be a run. I think it was meant to be something else. No, it was meant to be a run. Oh, I don't know man. Snap was botched. Kind of felt like, no, he was going that way the whole time. Yeah, but this snap, fumbling the snap threw off the timing of the entire play.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And certainly could have made the case. You kick the field goal there, you take the lead. But especially when their kicker was struggling the way he was with the Eagles kicker. Yeah, the Eagles kicker, Jake Elliott was struggling, but I felt like their offense was rolling at that point. And so the commanders knew that a one point win was pretty unlikely, I would imagine.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And that's why they went for it. But he, Adam, he just, he looked like a rookie more than anything else. He kind of, he kind of reminded me at times of Caleb Williams in Chicago, he would hold the ball on occasion too long off target. And finally, like a rookie. Yeah. Well, he's gone now. Now, Jaden Daniels has now gone seven straight games without a rushing touchdown. He is very unselfish near the goal line. He continually gives it to his running backs
Starting point is 00:07:49 and they keep scoring. So I'm not gonna criticize him for that, but it's hurting his fantasy value because it was three times in week 10 and one time yesterday where he easily could have kept it and maybe scored, but instead he gave it to his running back. If not for the Hail Mary, he would have scored 18 or fewer fantasy points in three of his last four games.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But those three bad games are Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia. And those are really good defenses, right? So he's got, you know, better matchups coming up Dallas, Tennessee, by at New Orleans, Philadelphia, again, that's unfortunate and Atlanta and week 17. So I don't know, maybe, you know, Philadelphia, obviously concerned about that. But what I what I found, but anyway, the schedule gets better. What I found interesting was that he was only started in 72% of leaks. So fantasy managers are concerned about Jane Daniels. I gave some bad Jane Daniels advice this week.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I'm sorry, people said, well, I don't know yet. But should I start this guy over Jane Daniels? I basically said, No, just keep starting Jane Daniels. I thought he'd be better. And he wasn't. And honestly, I think, I mean, we got, we also had the same, we all ranked at the same. Yeah. So we all had him tops. It's not like, um, you're alone on that.
Starting point is 00:08:52 You know, I got a phone call yesterday before the game started, Hey, Jared Goff or Jane Daniels. I was like, well, it surprised me. It got better. I don't, I don't have them ranked that far apart, but you know, the last thing you want to do is watch that game Thursday night and Jane Daniels goes, goes nuts and you're going to regret it, you know, so he's always got that type of upside, but still.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah. So I don't mean to put you on the spot, Jamie, and I'm putting myself on the spot too, because I'll answer this Detroit plays at Indy next week. Washington's got Dallas who you're starting next week. Jane Daniels without a second, right? Because it's Dallas, it's the matchup. So I'm willing to say the exact same thing. I wouldn't panic. I would not panic at all
Starting point is 00:09:26 Maybe there's even a last-minute by-law opportunity before the trade deadline passes in your fantasy leagues to get him Okay, and it's there for Terry McLaurin too Early on in the game. I don't know why and this is kind of like a Cliff Kingsbury thing, too I don't know why they had McLaurin line up on the left side as much as they did Mitchell did not shadow him, but he lined up against them every time he lined up wide and Mitchell was sticking to him. It was really impressive.
Starting point is 00:09:51 As soon as they started moving McLaurin around, he started to get open more often, but Daniels wasn't thrown to him. It was definitely weird. Daniels lamented that after the game. I would imagine there will be a massive bounce back for McLaurin against Dallas. All right. But again, I said, if they do it to Terry McLaurin, I think we have to consider the Eagles now. One of the toughest, if not the toughest other than certain maybe if not
Starting point is 00:10:17 the toughest matchup for wide receivers, they are no joke for everything. Yes, for everything. They are well, their run defense isn't great great, but they are a great defense now and their pass rush is ferocious. Their pass rush stunk before the bye. Yeah, the channel part was awesome. Now they're all over everyone. Okay, Sunday you know what to do. You can neither go to youtube.com slash fantasy football
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Starting point is 00:12:39 He had a hand injury that limited him on Wednesday, but he practiced in full on Thursday. Now it's CJ Stroud's turn to be limited with a hand injury. So his first practice of the week limited. I don't think it's gonna affect anything in the rankings and hopefully he'll be fine on Friday. Running back, it is Jaylen Warren missed practice and Najee Harris practiced in full.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So Harris was someone, Jamie, that we were saying yesterday, sit, sit if you can. If Warren is out, how does that change things for Harris against the Ravens? He's never too running back. You know, I mean, he'll, we saw what he was capable of doing when, when Warren was missing time earlier this year. So he'll be more involved in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Patterson will clearly, you know, have a bigger role as well. Quarter of Patterson. But I think for Najee opportunity, it changes dramatically. If Warren's not there. Could end up picking up some extra targets. Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 But Warren's been- Is that what he's browning against Baltimore a week ago? That's true. Yeah. Warren's been getting about, Warren's been getting about three targets per game, but the Ravens are different. They like running backs get a ton of targets against them. You gotta get the ball out.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah. Mike McCarthy wants to get Rico Dowdell the ball more. So Dowdell or Najee Harris in either scenario of Warren being in or out. I would take Najee over both. You know, I mean, it's still a bad matchup against Houston. So both bad matchups, you have a better offense for Pittsburgh right now. If Warren is in, I will take Dowdell over Najee and PPR.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Okay. Oh, I saw Jamie retweet this with a image of a bus, but Greg Roman, the offensive coordinator for the Chargers, Dave, he was very excited about Gus Edwards. He said he's healthier now. He looked it. Dealing with some stuff in the off season
Starting point is 00:14:17 that I guess is like finally behind him. And Greg Roman's very excited for Gus Edwards down the stretch. Yeah, I wouldn't be worried about him. He's on the injury report with an ankle. He's been limited the past couple of days, but I... It's the game of the week, yeah! Chargers and the Bengals, a lot of good games this week.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But this is the game of the week, hey! I do worry just a little bit about the Chargers slowing down Cincinnati. But if T Higgins is back, that just that makes me feel a little bit better about the Bengals chances to to make this game high scoring. So I'm with you on this one. This was a good call. And Gus is still not somebody that I'm ready to start. And I'm not ready to sit J.K. JK Dobbins either just because Gus came back last week. I need to be 100% honest with you. I don't really feel commitment and conviction with this game of the week call. I felt like it
Starting point is 00:15:17 was the best chance for me to surprise you. I didn't I don't really believe it's the game of the week. I'm not sure which game like I I don't wanna go Chiefs. What the hell? What are you doing? I was gonna say Ravens, I mean, I'm sorry. I was gonna say Eagles commanders, to be quite honest with you. Like that would have been- Then you should have done this on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I should have, I forgot. Oh, you just, you're kidding. Not Chiefsville? You're lowering the way at the bit. Eventually it's not gonna be good anymore. Like Chiefs, the Chiefs are kind of boring. No, I'm sorry, The Chargers just so full. I know, I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:15:48 All right. Chargers could be exciting though, Jane. They've got components on offense that could be really fun. I mean, so do the chiefs. Steelers Ravens, I think, is definitely up there. I could have done it during the whole Najee Harris. Yeah. Do you think Steelers Ravens will be like crazy high scoring?
Starting point is 00:16:04 I guess it's got to be. No, it doesn't have to be to be the game of the week, I guess. Just has to be like a really good fun game. Yeah, OK. So I think all three of these games are going to be key to never play any fun games. But the games are boring. I don't know. All right. I think you picked the right one as far as could be a fun game
Starting point is 00:16:21 and could be high scoring. I'm hoping that T Higgins makes it, I hope he plays. And then I hope he makes a huge difference. Marshawn Lloyd is back in the fold for the Packers. Don't know if he'll play this week, but he's been limited at practice. Josh Jacobs also limited. Aaron Jones was limited.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Oh, actually, I'm sorry. I didn't see Aaron Jones. He didn't practice in full, did he? Limited again? Limited on Thursday. Okay. Isaiah Pacheco still unlikely to play this week. Nope, but he's been limited too.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah. And Tank Bigsby missed practice again. So as of now, if you have Travis ETN, congratulations. This is a terrible matchup, but you might actually get 12 carries out of him. Darnell Mooney was limited with an Achilles injury. That's a new injury, but he was limited. So that's good. Amari Cooper is optimistic about playing this week.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Remember we have the mail bag at 2.30 PM Eastern today. Me and Jamie know Dan today, but we'll update you on all the latest injury news. Michael Pittman practicing in full. Nico Collins limited. T Higgins limited again. Feeling optimistic. I'm feeling optimistic about T Higgins.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I'm just going to put that out there. See Cedric Wilson Jr. was limited for the Saints. Jonathan Mingo is expected to make his Cowboys debut today or this week. Well, that'll solve things. Yeah, DK Metcalfe practiced in full and Tyreek Hill said that wrist surgery is an option, but he won't do it until after the season.
Starting point is 00:17:39 He wants to be out there. He wants to play. If you're the Tyreek manager, you just need to hope that the Dolphins stay in playoff contention. You know how Mingo can make a huge impact? He can grab the drapes real firmly and just run as fast as he can to the other side of the window to get the sun from coming into the stadium. All right and tight end news Jake Ferguson mispracticed with an illness Dalton Kincaid and Sam Laporta still missing practice. So as of now, we're not expecting them.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Are you guys ranking George Kittle? You are, right? Yes. Yep. Isaiah likely practiced in full, so it looks like he'll be back. Hunter Henry, I think he'll be okay for this game. And offensive line injuries that might matter. It's not going to change anything for Detroit.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So Taylor Decker, hopefully he can play, but you're starting all those guys. Spencer Brown, right tackle for the Bills. He miss, he keeps missing practice. I think he may have been limited yesterday. I'll double check it. It was limited yesterday. Okay. Good. I'll, I'll get you your bills. All right. Spencer Brown, the jets and the Colts that game. I think both teams are going to be without their starting left tackle. No practice for Spencer Brown. Okay. And Abe Lucas could be back. Yeah, that I said. Yeah. Abe Lucas could be back for the Seahawks, which would be nice. And Cincinnati left tackle Orlando Brown was limited on defense. Well, Harrison Bucker, if you have him on your roster, he's going to likely headed to IR. So get another
Starting point is 00:19:02 kicker. Spencer Schrader is going to be the guy replacing him in Kansas City. Okay. Then Kyle Hamilton's safety for the Ravens. Nice to see him getting limited practice in. And I'm pretty much going to stop there. Although it looks, oh, DeForest Buckner for the Colts. He practiced in full. Oh, one other thing.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Always hating on the Packers. Three, wait, they're healthy. They're healthy. I don't have to say anything. Three Falcons cornerbacks are injured. Two of them are regular players. One of them is special teams guy, but maybe a backup. I don't know. But if the matchup got even is getting even better, potentially, I don't know if these guys are going to play.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But three Falcons cornerbacks, missing practice on Thursday. And Bo Nicks. Hooray. One question for each game. Green Bay is at Chicago. We know about the Bears defense how good they've been against the pass are Jordan love and Jayden Reed easy starts this week. No love is reads recent track record makes me nervous to call him anything more than a flex. Love is a low end number one quarterback and
Starting point is 00:20:04 read is a low end number two high end number three or zero. OK, would you start? Who was the guy? Oh, Jared Goff is the one that was at you were asked about last night. Jared Goff or J or Jordan Love? Jared Goff. I think I have golf one spot ahead of love. Nick's over love. Wilson over love.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Both those guys higher ceiling this week. I'll take love over what Russ and Bo. Nick's surprised Dave didn't talk trash about that stupid bulls next game the other night. Heartbreaker, absolute heartbreaker. I don't know if I can name five players on the bulls. They got lucky. They bail out call.
Starting point is 00:20:48 What was I gonna say about, oh, uh, Jane Reed. I have him figured out if he doesn't make a big play, he's not going to have a good game. Every time he's had a good game, he's made a huge play Cleveland at the, at the new Orleans saints, Cedric Tillman or Nick Chubb. Who's a better flex. What's the format? There you go. Half PPR. Chop. I'll side with Till go. Half PPR. Chubb. I'll side with Tillman in half PPR.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Are you going to be pretty worried about Chubb if he doesn't come through in this game? Like going forward, like basically have to hit him. This is Joe Boone. I'm already still a little bit worried about Chubb. I mean, we're kind of giving him the benefit of the doubt of just magically being more explosive after a week off. He's going to get a lot of work against a bad run defense. I'm not worried.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Well, you're not worried, but you have them ranked in the 20s. I think that's where we start is he scores. Does he get, there's been like eight running backs with at least 14 carries. I think that's what the set is Jamie. Maybe you can jog my memory on that one, but eight running backs against the saints with at least 14 carries, they've all scored and six of them had 80 rushing yards. I think Chubb is going to score. I worry about just how many rushing yards he's going to get and I'd be surprised if he caught a pass. Jacksonville at Detroit, Brian Thomas Jr. or Jameson Williams. I'm making that decision
Starting point is 00:22:00 in a few leagues and I'm starting Jameson Williams. Wow. But I get it. They get the same amount of targets at this point. Okay. Dave, you're Brian Thomas. I have BTJ higher. All right. Seattle at San Francisco, Jackson Smith and Jigba or Jawan Jennings. Jennings.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Love Jennings. Agreed. Yeah, me too. Seattle has been horrible against wide receivers. Rams are at New England. Start or sit, Ramondre Stevenson. Low end starter ahead of Najee. I like him better than James Cook this week. I like him better than JK Dobbins this week. He's behind the touch for me, but still a low end number two running back. In full PPR, I've got him a notch out of Chubb. I think he can score too.
Starting point is 00:22:41 running back in full PPR. I've got him a notch out of chub. I think he can score too. So here's the fool you stat of the game for Rams Patriots. Here's the start percentage in the last three games now for a Mondrae Stevenson, 39% in week eight, 62% in week nine. He scored 22.4 or more fantasy points in both games. 71% last week and he scored 8.7 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So, you know, you could argue in week nine, he was started in 62% of leagues that came through, but he's been frustrating fantasy management. And I just wonder, he is averaging, Ramandre Stevenson is averaging 2.7 yards per carry since returning from his foot injury. So that's making me a little bit nervous. And the Rams run defense has actually
Starting point is 00:23:22 been pretty good lately. I'm actually starting him at super flex and one league because I have no choice. But I'm nervous about him. He's not running well. And just look what they did to a Chan last week there. They've been a lot better defensively. So I just want to throw that out there. Armando It's not a great setup right now. No, but it's it's the setup that you've talked about whenever they're going to be in competitive games.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And I think they're going to stay close with the rent. Yes. And he did. He did have like 20 carries last week. So you'll take that workload. All right. Houston at Dallas start CD lamb or will he be bad? Thank you for laughing.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Not the first time I've used that joke, but first time I have him ranked as wide receiver 20 in full PPR. He'll move up one spot if Mooney ends up being ruled out. But I'm hoping that he gets good volume again. I'm worried that there'll be too many targets that'll be short, and they'll just get tackled. So I'll have a bunch of six yard catches. You got to hope he scores and you got to hope that he catches eight to 10 targets.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Jacoby Myers over lamb, C Corley Sutton over Lam, Calvin Ridley over Lam, John Jennings over Lam, Cedric Tillman over Lam. You had me until you got to Jennings and Tillman, but they're back to back to back in my rankings. Okay, since Houston Dallas is the last game we'll talk about, we'll ask you this bonus question. Tank Dell or Rico Daddle?
Starting point is 00:24:46 Tank Dell. More upside. we'll ask you this bonus question. Tankedell or Rico Daddle? Tankedell. More upside. And this is all assuming Nico's playing, right? With or without. Okay. Did you know that With or Without You is one of my like three favorite songs ever? By you two?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Didn't know that, did you? Now you do. Green Bay's at Chicago. Stat of the game. See if Dave knows this one. The name Chicago was first recorded in 1688 where it appears as Chicago, an Algonquin word meaning onion field.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Everybody knew that. Did you know that, that you're from onion field? You're from a suburb of onion field? I'm from the onion field suburbs. Did you know that the nickname Windy City wasn't given to Chicago because of the wind in Chicago? No. Rather because of the blustery nature of politicians in Chicago. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Like turn of the century, like times. Yes. You know, I think I'm satisfied with the way we've covered this game. That's all we really need to know about this game. So let's move on. So Jordan Love, a low end starter, as you guys already said, the Bears allow the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Maybe after that, I haven't looked at his schedule, but maybe after this, you can, if he struggles again, throw out a by low because I feel the perception might be pretty bad of Jordan Love, but he was rolling before leaving the Jacksonville game with an injury and playing that bad weather game against Detroit.
Starting point is 00:26:07 After Chicago, it's San Francisco at home, Miami at home on Thanksgiving at Detroit. Yeah, I'm in for that. I guess those aren't great matchups, but Jordan loves good quarterback starters to Josh Jacobs easy start fantasy playoffs. I'm sorry, Josh. Jacob's easy start. I think so. Yeah, number two running back. Bears give up 4.9 don't like that. Matt LaFleur when asked about Marshawn Lloyd returning said, have me for running backs is never a bad thing. Yeah, liar. It is. Jaden Reed is a let's see Jaden Reed or
Starting point is 00:26:40 tank Dell. I read one or two spots ahead, but it's close. I've got yet. I agree. It's close. They're both in that flex range. I have Dobbs over read by a spot. I mean, he's tough, right? Because you don't want to sit the upside. You have wait, you have Dobbs over read.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Dobbs read then two other receivers with just two other receivers and then tanked out. OK, Dobbs, let's see. Last two games. with just two other receivers and then tanked out. Okay, Dobbs, let's see. Last two games were bad, but that was again Jordan Love, and that one was okay. They're all bad. For Dobbs? They're all bad because love was bad.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I mean, the Tigers were bad. Yeah, the last two games have been bad. These are the two wide receivers that play the most for Green Bay. Jayden Reed, you said it, like definitely a big play guy and his best games come when he makes big plays I think Dobbs is safer I think that he's one that can has the better chance to get the most volume and Chicago can take away big plays through the air I think that just Dobbs is just the safe path for for love and for everybody in that offense really
Starting point is 00:27:43 Until we get back to what we were seeing before the the groin injury For love they're all risky Until we see it. That's fair. No, so I mean look the last two games Granted how they played out Christian Watson at 13 targets. Yeah, you know, so You know could he start to get going a little bit as if if love gets healthy And so, you know, you never know how that factors into things Tucker Kraft was scoring a lot of touchdowns I think it was touchdown at five of last seven games with love Six touchdowns over Spanish like that five touchdowns in his last six games for Tucker Kraft right one of those was a two touchdown game
Starting point is 00:28:21 There's uh, yeah, there's there's still potential clearly for him, but you're looking at, it just feels a little unsettling. And this is not an easy matchup. No. Even with all the injuries to Chicago, they still managed to keep production low for opposing passing games. I assume that Dobbs and Reed are your favorite receivers in this game though. You're not going with DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Correct. Yep. Basically for the Bears, it's just Swift, right? As a starter, yes. I think the thing you want to see is the coordinator change. You want to see how things look, you know, with Thomas Brown without Shane Waldron, you know, is there things schematically that look different, you know, how's the protection, you know, going to go for Caleb Williams. That's obviously the biggest thing at this know, how's the protection, you know, gonna go for Caleb Williams?
Starting point is 00:29:05 That's obviously the biggest thing at this point. More running back touches, you would assume. You know, maybe Roshan benefits also, you know, who knows? It could be a situation where, you know, they give him some more touches to, you know, maybe use Swift a little bit more in the passing game because he went from what, six catches two games ago to one last week, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:22 So who knows how things look for the Bears? I think just in terms of the receivers, you want to sit them. You know, if you have to make a tough call on dropping the non DJ more receivers, I get it. You know, so if you, you know, went to your waiver wire and it's sentient league and Kenan Allen was the guy to drop shore, Roman Dunes, there was a guy to drop shore. Um, but you want to see if, you know what, what this looks like, it could just be different and things work better. I, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:29:44 I'm moderately hopeful. So here are reasons to be hopeful. Number one, the offensive line appears to be getting healthier. We they've got some tackles who haven't been playing that are practicing. So with any luck, they will start to practice. And we know that green Bay's pass rush kind of changed a little bit with Preston Smith, leaving the team. We'll see if Lucas van Ness can kind of take over for him there.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Um, I think, I think the easiest thing that the bears could do is just get Smith leaving the team. We'll see if Lucas Van Ness can kind of take over for him there. I think the easiest thing that the Bears could do is just get the ball out of Caleb's hands faster. And that's why I've got Cole Comed as a top 12 tight end this week in PPR. It just makes sense to get him as the short area target, dump off guy, quick read guy, things where he can go and make a play after the catch. Obviously he can be used in the red zone too, but I think he's the one that gets a little bit more shoveled onto his plate in the wake of the OC change. Interesting. That's quite a gamble. Do you have him ahead of Tucker Kraft?
Starting point is 00:30:38 No, he's, but he is 11th for me. I've got him ahead of Taysom. This PPR Taysom Hill, Hunter Henry. I had him ahead of both tight ends yesterday. Fire Muth, Gisicky's out of there now because it looks like T Higgins is coming back. But like if you're streaming a tight end and Cole Comet's on your waiver wire,
Starting point is 00:30:55 I'd rather just go with Comet. Okay. So over Dawson Knox? No. That's one guy. That's the better streamer, obviously. Okay. That's assuming that Dalton can Kate is out All right, so then I'll just maybe Tucker craft is one that you guys have him as a low-end starter
Starting point is 00:31:12 about tenth and How does craft compared to Dawson Knox? I? Like I would start craft The hope that that's where no Jordan love continues to go for red zone opportunities. And the Bears have struggled with tight ends. They've done well against receivers, not necessarily tight ends. Packers DST, Bears DST, do you like any of them? Either of them? Packers DST a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:35 How in the world can you not like the Packers DST? Okay. DSTs kind of stink this year, don't they? What do you think? I feel like just overall. Meaning like there's just too many streaming? No, I just, I mean, I've, I had a lot of chargers DST and you know, a bulk of my 30 leagues and having to pivot off of that has not been fun, you know, to try and find replacement options. I think we've gotten some pockets of some pretty good DSTs.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I mean, the Vikings early in the season, Eagles recently, you know, Chargers for a good stretch. I feel like that's every year. Good year for offense though, I think. Now it's, I think we're gonna see the Texans, their schedule, if you were able to pick them up. All right. Yeah. Oh, that reminds me, beyond the, or not beyond the box score, beat the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:32:27 We're doing beat the waiver wire on FFT Express this afternoon. This is one that you need to pay attention to. It's tough because we have so many buys coming up, but you should get ahead of the game. You really need to start planning ahead for week 12 now before your opponent does, and we'll help you out on beat the waiver wire. All right, we're going to take a break and when we come back, we'll talk about Jacksonville and Detroit. Can Mack Jones, who Jamie picked up in our baked burger dynasty league for $11, can he get it going at the Lions? We'll tell you after this. This episode is brought to you by Dyson On Track. Dyson On Track headphones offer best in class noise cancellation and an enhanced sound range, making them perfect for enjoying
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Starting point is 00:33:34 about a struggling Asian actor who gets a bigger part than he expected when he witnesses a crime in Chinatown. Streaming November 19th, only on Disney+. Stars and sits for the Jaguars and the Lions. If Tank Dell. You should clarify that's a super flex leak. Yeah, I said, did I say that?
Starting point is 00:33:51 You said that. I did say that, yeah. I thought so, it's super flex leak. If Tank Bigsby is out, not Tank Dell, Tank Bigsby is out, who's the best start for the Jaguars, like relative to his position? The best start would be the bus to get back to the airport as quickly as possible. Oh man, you have an opportunity for ETN. You have Evan Ingram who's not terrible. Who's the best, who's the guy you'd be most excited about? And Brian Thomas Jr. too.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Excited about? I mean, Thomas will be the one to be excited about but confidence in none of them. You're right. This is this is the game we find out if if if he's getting fired, Doug Peters is getting fired if they quit early in the game. He's done by week next week like there's no reason to keep sure quarterbacking and coach are apparently feuding. It's uh, it's not it's not good right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about ETN though, compared to like Najee Harris or Rico Dowdell, if Tank Bigsby is out? He's ahead of those guys, but again, it's, it's a, like once you get to about like RB 22, 23, like it's, it's a guessing game after that, you know, so ETN, Dowdell, Najee, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:04 I had the Washington guys right there too. It's, it's just not a lot of slam dunk. You're starting these guys with, with any semblance of confidence. So yes, ETN does benefit if there is no bigsby, but you're talking about one of the best run defenses in football and Mac Jones at quarterback, they're huge underdogs. They're on the road. They're bi-week is next week. It's just all a disaster. It's an absolute disaster. All right, so we're gonna get a lot of Brian Thomas, Jr. questions that I am very confident in. I asked you guys, Jameson Williams or Brian Thomas, Jr. Dave said Brian Thomas,
Starting point is 00:35:37 Jr. Jamie said Jameson Williams. Did I ask you guys about Jayden Reed and Romeo Dobbs versus Did I ask you guys about Jayden Reed and Romeo Dobbs versus? Both backers guys over Thomas. I would take both chargers guys over Thomas. Like I'm just, I'm out on him this week. Yep. Agreed. Okay. Five straight games with six or fewer targets. And then Evan Ingram is, Tucker Craft or Evan Ingram?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Craft. Craft. Lions have been awesome against tight ends. They have held Jake Ferguson, Tucker Craft, and Trey McBride to 7.4 or fewer PPR fantasy points. Can you name the tight end who scored a touchdown against them? I can look in my notes. It was AJ Barner.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah. AJ Barner, only tight end to score a touchdown against them. Well, I mean, it's AJ Barner. Yeah. I don't, I mean, it's how it goes for that guy. We'll forgive them for that. Uh, two tight ends that I'm hoping for good games from Dawson Knox and Cole commit. I, I'm still going to start em and Ingram over them as of now, but it's, it's almost,
Starting point is 00:36:36 we're almost at the point where with em and Ingram where it's like, oh, what the heck, I'm only going to get like 10 PPR points from him anyway. So I might as well go and roll the dice with one of these other tight ends, but it is still 10 PPR points. And sometimes that's enough to say, all right, I'll just take the points and not worry about these question marks at tight end. Questions from the chat, Brian Thomas Jr. or Marquez Valdez Scantling.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, I'm not there yet, but that's where Brian Thomas is heading. You can make the case for MBS, but I agree. Brian Thomas Jr. Evan Ingram or Dalton Schultz? Yeah, same. Not there yet. Ingram's still better.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Ingram's worst game was basically last week, you know, in terms of him healthy. And it's better than any game Dalton Schultz has had all season. 10 PPR points. Schultz has not gotten to 10 yet this year. Here's one I don't understand. AEW roster versus the Jags. It's a wrestling reference. Yeah, I don't get it. It's more than that. The guy that owns
Starting point is 00:37:34 AEW is Shad Khan's son Tony. Okay. Ingram or Pitts. Oh, he's definitely focused on wrestling right now. Pits. I agree. Pits. I agree, pits. And all right, moving on to Detroit here. So how do we feel about Jared Goff? It's a great matchup, but you got to figure he's probably going to throw 12 passes in this game.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But maybe 22. You look at it this way. Do they get conservative after the five interception game or do they let him get, you know, back on track after the five interception game and that's really it's a guessing game you know there's there's really no way to tell because you said it they've had games where he's throwing the ball you know under 20 times and he's been efficient he's gotten touchdowns he's been you know a solid quarterback but it hasn't really been the high-end fantasy production that
Starting point is 00:38:22 we know he's capable of in a matchup like this so I think he's worth starting. I think he's worth trusting. I'll give you an example I have Bo Nix ranked ahead of Jared Goff And I would start him in every situation possible except the one league where I have both on the same team And I'm sending him as my guillotine league because I think golf is a little bit safer And I just want to get through the week. I don't need to win anything I just want to make sure I can guarantee points and And so there's too much of a high low variance in in in next by comparison. I think Jared golf is going to get you a steady 20 to 22 points. If he gets you you know, a three touchdown game, it could be huge. But I like to set up for next better, for example, just in terms of having
Starting point is 00:38:56 a higher sense. Okay. But the funny thing is about golf is that he's got four games with fewer than 14 fantasy points. He's got two games with 31 or more fantasy points and he never, he never throws. So there's been some variance there. The Jaguars allow the third most fantasy points to the quarterbacks. But yeah, I mean, I think I agree with you. I mean, he's probably, when I put golf in my lineup, I'm just kind of expecting like 21 fantasy points. It just hasn't really played out that way. But he, you know, it's lower than that, but the ceiling is significantly higher than that. And this is just such a good matchup that you can just see him having like that hyper efficient day where he's 17 of 18 for 275 yards and three touchdowns. And just look at how can somebody do that? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:43 been doing that this year. His two games where he scored 31 or more points, he threw 18 passes and 25 passes, but it feels like that that is in the cards. This could happen this week. In one of them. He threw it. He caught a touchdown. golf cousins are Darnold. I've got golf the highest I think. And I got some more questions about the Jaguars. So we'll go to the Lions in a second.
Starting point is 00:40:07 But here's Brian Thomas Jr. and Najee Harris. Brian Thomas Jr. and Najee Harris, Brian Thomas Jr. or Quentin Johnston. I would say Thomas and both. Okay, wow. And ETN or Estime? ETN. I'll take Estime. Would you start, we know James Cook has this horrible matchup against the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Would you start James Cook or David Montgomery who can't seem to get more than 12 carries these days? Montgomery. I will. I've got Montgomery ranked higher than Cook, but it's close. Okay. Start Amon Ross St. Brown. Jameson Williams.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So Dave, I think you gave me an interesting stat about Jameson Williams with and without Sam Laporta. The target per route run rate with him without Laporta on the field is ridiculous. It's like much, much higher. Yeah. But the weird, yeah, it goes from 15.4% for Jameson Williams target per route run rate with Laporta on the field. 28.1% with him off the field. The 28.1% target per route run rate is great. But the weird thing is like, I can't, I look at the game log and I don't see, I don't see that correlation really. I see that stat, but it's not like Laporta
Starting point is 00:41:14 gets that many targets. There's games where Laporta gets almost nothing and it doesn't really affect Jameson Williams. I don't know, but considering- If there's one thing you wanna look for a game log for Jameson Williams, go look at his home and road. Yeah, big difference. All of his best games coming home.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So how much do we like him? Did he crack the top 30 this week? No, but you know, again, when you're like there's that group of receivers, it's the two Packers guys, it's Tank Del, it's, you know, Josh Downs has fallen into this group. It's Jalen Waddle. I like Williams better, but Waddle, Brian Thomas Jr., DJ Moore, you know, like there's a group of about 15 receivers that you can say, okay, can be 25, maybe a good day, top 20.
Starting point is 00:41:56 But not anything you could say with this is why this is going to happen. So for Williams, it's he's been great at home. He's played three home games so far. They've been all fantastic. One was the two catch 80 yard game that he had where he broke the 60 yard reception. I forget who it was against. It was a crossing right over the middle.
Starting point is 00:42:15 He just took it and ran out the sideline. It was touchdown. Rams? Sounds right. So you have his performance at home. You have terrible matchup. Jaguars give a lot of big plays, and you have potentially no Sam Laporta. So three things working in his favor, but they just have not seen the high volume of targets for him recently.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And that's the hope is that, again, you know, this discussion we had yesterday, hope versus certainty. The hope being that he gets more chances without Laporta on the field in a great matchup that, you know, that's what you want to bank on here. So he's a great DFS play. He's a great, you know, swing for the fence. If you need your team to win this week type of play, because that's really what he is I every week, but when he's at home, it's even better. And so I like him this week. I just don't have him ranked in the top 30.
Starting point is 00:42:59 He's like 33 or 34. If you're going up against Saquon Barkley and Barkley just hung a huge number on you and you had Terry McLaurin, change your flex to Jameson Williams. Jamie hit on it. It's the high upside, boom bust, bi-week type of wide receiver three. That's exactly what he is and you're hoping that he just catches a big catch for a touchdown. All right, Dave, give me your thoughts real quick on the Lions tight ends. Brock Wright is a streamer if there's no Sam Laporta, but I
Starting point is 00:43:27 wouldn't be very excited to start him. And if Laporta plays, I'd be more inclined to start Laporta, but he's almost in the same boat as Jameson Williams. You've got to hope that he makes a big player too. If he plays, would you start Evan Ingram or Sam Laporta? I could be talked into Laporta because I think his upside is higher than Ingram's. It's one of the best matchups you could find.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It's actually been so bad against tight ends. It sucks that he's hurt this week. Yeah, well, unless you have Jameson Williams, that might help him. All right, Cleveland's at New Orleans, stat of the game. So you see the Saints, the Saints, they give up the fifth fewest fantasy points to the quarterbacks, but they are absolutely terrible in terms of yards. They give up the fourth most passing yards per game, but they give up the third lowest touchdown rate per game and they have the fourth most interceptions
Starting point is 00:44:21 in the NFL. So you can throw on them, but it's been hard to score on them. I don't know if I buy it, it seems maybe a little fluky, but I also think that's a stat that says, all right, maybe Jamis won't have a great game, maybe throw some picks, but it could be another good game for the wide receivers because they give up a ton of passing yards.
Starting point is 00:44:38 So how are you guys looking at this game? And we had talked about, oh, Jamis Winston after the buy, he's got these tough matchups. I think he has Baltimore and Pittsburgh after this, but this isn't one of them, right? It is statistically, but I don't buy it. I think this is one of those games where Jamis is going to have an opportunity to play well.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's a matter of the touchdowns, like you said. So what do they do when they get inside the 10? Is this where Nick Chubb comes into play? How much do they lean on Nick Chubb to get him a get right game, as we talked about earlier? But yes, you know, is this where Nick Chubb comes into play? How much does it lean on Nick Chubb to get him a get right game? You know, as we talked about earlier, but yes, Doug, this is a revenge game for Jamis Winston. He spent four years as a backup in New Orleans, for the most part, at least.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And so this, this is his opportunity, I think, to, you know, have, have one of those, you know, one of those days, you know, so similar to Jamis and Williams, you know, if you're stuck, you need a big, performance, would not be surprising if James is that type of guy. And he's going to be in a lot of my DFS liners for this week because I think he can go nuts. You know, the way that he's been throwing the ball, great game against Baltimore, subpar game. I forget the second matchup that he had, but it was, you know, a lot of past attempts and a lot of these guys are going to have chances to make plays.
Starting point is 00:45:44 The subpar was against the chargers, right? And that, and the chargers defense, I, I think we need to start giving them credit, hopefully not so much this week when they take on Cincinnati. I mean, James and Joe burrow two different animals, but that that's definitely true. Um, here I'll go on the other side of this with Jamis. I'm, I don't like that he was in new Orleans for four years and that despite Dennis Allen getting fired, there's still a lot of coaches on that team that know Jameis. They know what his strengths and weaknesses are. He was around that team for four years. I don't think that he's changed very much over the course of his career. And that Saints defense did
Starting point is 00:46:18 get a little bit more aggressive, just a little bit more last week against Atlanta Atlanta and it worked out for them to a degree. Obviously Kirk Cousins didn't score any touchdowns, but he still threw the ball well when he wasn't under duress. My guess is that they are going to try and up the blitz rate and get more pressure on Jamis Winston in obvious passing situations. So that could lead to some turnovers too. But I just completely buy into the matchup. I think the, I think the Browns will buy into the matchup on the ground. And I think they'll try and get chub going. And that might limit just the type of upside that Winston could have as far as passing volume goes. Uh, maybe the saints have a lead in the second half and then
Starting point is 00:46:59 Jamis has to throw that could go either way. We know how it is with Jamis. So as a bi-week quarterback, sure, he's got some upside, but he's not somebody that I would rank like top 12 or anything close to that. Winston or Levis is a question in the chat. Winston. Yeah, I mean, I think Winston's the way to go there.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I've got him 18th. All right, so let me, I want, I'm gonna give you a name. I want one sentence on how you feel about this player, okay? Nick Chubb. A great number two running back in week 11. Hopeful that after several weeks plus the bye, he's ready to go back to his old self in arguably the best matchup you could have. Cedric Tillman.
Starting point is 00:47:42 A great number two wide receiver in week 11. Volume dependent wide receiver with a good chance to score and the best bronze receiver. Jerry Judy. A great number three wide receiver in week 11. You need 12 PPR points. Start Jerry Judy. Elijah Bohr. A risky number three wide receiver in week 11. David Njoku. A great tight end to start in week 11. Top five fantasy tight end.
Starting point is 00:48:16 All right, I'm gonna look at some chat questions to see, to put these guys in context. Winston or Drake May? May, but it's close.. May but it's close. Winston but it's close. When I will say this if you're trying to plan ahead you rather have Drake may than James Winston. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, Winston or Russell Wilson. Rust. Tillman or Jawan Jennings. Double J. Jennings. Tillman or Jacoby Myers. Myers. Jacoby Myers. Rico Daddle oroby Myers? Myers. Jacoby Myers.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Rico Daddle or Nick Chubb? Chubb. I will go with Chubb. Yeah, compound sentence. That was a big time compound sentence. Thank you. Do I have a Tillman, Mooney or Downs? Mooney if he's active, Tillman otherwise. Tillman over both guys.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Okay. Now listen, earlier we said we liked Jennings and, and, uh, Myers better than Tillman. That's because we like Jennings and Myers, not because we don't like Tillman. Um, Tillman or Jayden Reed? Tell me. Said Jerry, Judy, or Jerry, Judy or a Judy or Tank Dell. Dope. That's close. I have Tank higher Jerry Judy or Brian Thomas Jr. Judy. I BTJ higher. All right, Nick Chow do a few
Starting point is 00:49:37 more Nick Chubbs, Nick Chubb or Audrey guesstimay. Chubb. Nick Chubb or Drake London. Say half PPR. I kind of like Chubb better. Okay. All right. Let's go over to the Saints.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Start Kamara. Anyone else? Taysom? Nox or Taysom? Nox. Nifkin Kato. Correct. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Ingram or Taysom? Ingram still. I'll take Taysom and non PPR. Oh, great. Yeah, let's go. If, if you like, if, if you heard our little conversation about Jameson Williams and you thought to yourself, Oh man, I'd love to have a player like that on my roster. You could always pivot to Marquez Valdez scantling for what it's worth.
Starting point is 00:50:36 One game. He looked pretty good. He had three targets, didn't he? No, but on top of that, just watching him play, I thought he looked pretty good. I'm not going to go crazy. I'm not telling though. I don't even, I don't even know if I'm ranked as a top 50 receiver, but he, he, I'm just saying that's a, the same type of receiver as Jameson Williams and an offense part one
Starting point is 00:51:00 Derek Carr has been throwing deep a lot more lately, or all season, I should say. Part two, the offensive line is stronger. It's not a great matchup. And I'm not, I'm not stumping for MBS other than to say he's one of those one play boom bust receivers. Yeah. I actually, I'm curious to see what happens with this Brown's defense going forward because they've been bad.
Starting point is 00:51:20 They are 26. No, they're, they gave up the fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers. The fifth most completions of 20 or more yards. The third most completions of 20 or more air yards. They've just, they've been actually a great matchup. Do they get things figured out in their buy? And we actually liked their DST quite a bit. They are top eight for everybody. And 33% rostered as of yesterday, the Cleveland Browns.
Starting point is 00:51:40 All right, Seattle's at San Francisco, stat of the game. Seattle has allowed 16 or more PPR fantasy points to 10 wide receivers in their last six games. So they've been horrible against wide receivers. Is that because of injuries? Are they healthier now? I don't know. I know they were pretty beat up in the secondary.
Starting point is 00:51:58 They're coming off. They were for a while, but Rick Woollen's been back. I don't think Witherspoon ever left. So I don't know if we can pin it on injuries. Okay. I think you can pin it on a pass rush that hasn't been as good as it was earlier in the year. So what does that mean for Debo and Jennings and even Pierce all start starts dash. You can start Pierce all if you if you had to, I would have low expectations. I'd rather start Jameson Williams as an example, but the volume plus the aftercatch
Starting point is 00:52:25 ability for both Debo and Jennings and really I'm kind of speaking to Jennings here more than Debo are two factors that I just absolutely love for this game. Stan of the game to keep an eye on, this isn't going to influence anyone's decisions, but Ken Walker is averaging 3.2 yards per carry in his last five games. He had six carries of 12 or more yards in his first two games and has only one since then. So he's really struggling. He's got, once again, Ken Walker, one of these guys, has a ton of carries for zero or negative yards.
Starting point is 00:52:57 He's always among the leaders there. But he's not making up for it with the explosive plays. And I mentioned the Remandre thing, or bad Remandre has been since coming back from a foot injury. It was an oblique injury for Ken Walker. But since he's come back, he really hasn't been very good other than that Detroit game. Anyway, I know you're going to start Ken Walker, but I just wanted to bring that up. All right. So we started with the Niners. We can just go through them. You guys love Brock Purdy. He's a top five quarterback. The Seahawks have just been a really good matchup. You love McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Debo is a must start and Jennings is a close to that. I guess he said, I probably asked this a thousand times yesterday, but Jennings or Drake London. Jennings agreed. Okay. And then Kittle, if he plays, you're obviously going to play him. Although I did think it was interesting that he had only four targets in the first game with Christian McCaffrey back.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Of course he scored a touchdown. He does that every week. And... On a busted play, no less. You know what? I'm going to... A busted play? That was a busted play he scored on. All right. But it was a great play. It was a great play,
Starting point is 00:54:00 but the play was designed to go to McCaffrey. A busted play. Yeah, I'm sorry. But it wasn't busted coverage. It was a busted. No, no, no. Right. I'm going to look up a kiddlestat that I mentioned on Monday that I think you're going to be pretty wowed by. But while I do that, Dave, take me through how you feel about the Seattle Seahawks against this Niners team. I think DK Metcalf is it's he's too good to sit. He's been practicing in full all week with the knee injury. He should be good to go. I don't feel great about JSN or Tyler Lockett.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You're going to need to give me a minute when you come back to look up the stats. So I make sure I get it right on Jackson Smith and Jigba, but his track record playing with DK Metcalf is not good. He might be good enough to be a flex and you could use them as a number three receiver and full PPR, but not one that's got crazy high upside. And I know they're talking about getting them more involved. I'd love to see it. I don't want to bank on it quite yet.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Locket is also in that boom bust flex range. I believe the last time these two teams met, it was Lockett who had the best game and DK dominated targets in that game. But to me it's Metcalf an easy number one fantasy wide receiver. You hope for the best with him. And it's an added bonus that Sharvarius Ward dealing with some personal tragedy, not playing in this game again this week.
Starting point is 00:55:11 So it does make the matchup a little bit easier for Seattle. And you know that they'll throw a lot. Dan in our chat, by the way, here's your stats on, on JSN with Metcalf, three games with 6.9 or fewer fantasy points, three games with 10.3 to 13.1 PPR fantasy points. I guess you take that and one huge game 23.7 fantasy points at New England. I think that's the only game in his career where he's had over 15 PPR points with DK on the phone. Yeah, that makes sense. And he's never posted 15 plus in PPR in consecutive games. So Jackson Smith and Jigba or that you're Brian Thomas Jr. Jason. I think I have Thomas
Starting point is 00:55:55 higher. How about Brian? I have JSN one spot out of Thomas. I'm sorry. Brian Thomas Jr. or Nick Chubb. I'm sorry, JSN or Nick Chubb. Chubb. I would, yeah. Yeah, I kind of feel like Chubb is the better play. Here's a... Both PPR, it's tough. Question from the chat. Start two, Jennings, Debo, Sutton. I would say Jennings.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I would too. And here's Dave. We have his correct Dan G here. He says we need to lowered expectations for fantasy like the old SNL skit. Was that SNL or Mad TV? Mad TV and for Jackson Smith and Jigma Dave we have lowered expectations. Alright, we need work needs work. Starter said Gino Smith Jamie because I sounded great.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Heath has him as a start low end start. He doesn't have a great history against San Francisco at all. You know, so that's my fear. I would I would try and send him if he can look he's going to throw a lot. He's averaging 38 past attempts a game. Is that going to matter? You know, hope so. You know, last time we saw him prior to the bye week, it was three touchdowns, three receptions.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So could get that type of performance for him. know, hope so. You know, last time we saw him prior to the bye week, it was three touchdowns, three receptions. So could get that type of performance for him. He's in that low end starting range mix, you know, just not a slam dunk starter. How many times has he found 21 plus fantasy points against the 49ers in his past five games? None one. None.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And Gino is leading the NFL in passing yards, 200 per game, 284.4 passing yards. That's kind of wild. Doesn't throw a lot of touchdowns out. Doesn't throw in the red zone or the green zone much. All right. So that, oh, Jamis Winston or Gino Smith? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I'll take Jamis. Jennings or Higgins from the chat. Oh, I haven't thought about that with T where he would go. I think he'd go ahead of Jawan. I would put him behind Jawan Jennings, but it's close. Okay, oh, how about this? Matt Walter says, Dave crushed it, the lowered expectation song, Adam, a little pitchy.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And we know that Matt Walters is an absolute audiophile, just a maestro when it comes to singing and music. Yeah, I agree. All right. 49ers DST, you can start and I'm finished with this game. Rams are at New England. I already told you about the Rams not making big plays. They have one play of more than 30 yards since the return of their two receivers. And it was the Demarcus Robinson touchdown catch, but they're also, they have the second most passing yards in those last three games. They just not scoring.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Does this sound familiar? Is this not Matthew Stafford each of the previous two seasons? He can't throw touchdowns. Well, not at the end of last year, which is what we were hoping for. Yeah, he got going finally, but second most passing yards in the last three games,
Starting point is 00:58:41 but the third lowest touchdown rate. I also want to point out the Rams defense has allowed 20 or fewer points in four straight games since their buy. That was the Raiders, which is whatever, but then Minnesota at Seattle and Miami. So kudos to them. I thought this was kind of an easy matchup earlier in the year. It might not be anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Jamie, take us through the Rams, how you view them. Stafford is in that Dino Smith, Jamis Winston, Drake May, you know, range of low end starter at best. You know, you just have to be a little concerned about the touchdowns. And so I think just this is not the best setup of you know, going on the road in West Coast, East Coast, you know, this is when you typically see these guys start to struggle a little bit. So I'm flying on Monday, but if you need staff for, then it's not awful.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Um, Kyron's a must start and two receivers are my starts. You know, it's just one of those things where if, if Stafford gets two touchdowns, he should be okay. Will he get to two touchdowns? Kyron? Yeah. It's higher in struggling. Like I said, two straight games with a long of nine yards, but how can you take
Starting point is 00:59:43 them out of your lineup to get so much work? Um, and, uh, you to cook a better than cup? In PPR, I think cups touchdown potential is a little bit higher. There are some concerning metrics for Cooper Cup. I talked about it last week, but it doesn't really matter because he he still gets open. They designed such great routes and he's open and he ran some great routes. He just is doing nothing after the catch. He might be slowing down
Starting point is 01:00:13 but he has slowed down. He might be. All right then I'll say that. The 31 year receiver that's had ankle and foot issues. Right. Of course. He's not the same guy I don't think but it doesn't really matter. He's still good enough to start. He's still got top 10 of it. Absolutely, absolutely. And he's got a career high target per route run rate right now, 31% almost. Any interest in Davis Allen as a sleeper? Did you mention him?
Starting point is 01:00:38 I think when you start to talk about it, like I like Dave's optimism about Colcomet. I really have no faith until I start to see it from him. So it's, you know, the coordinator changed. Hopefully we'll change some things. But I think just looking at it, like the guys that we talked about this week, mostly for PPR, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:53 you could get five catches from Davis Allen and wouldn't surprise me based on what we saw last week. Sean McVeigh, I didn't read the story, but Sean McVeigh addressed, you know, why Colby Parkinson didn't play very much. So I want to go back and read that and see what the issue was. Just something to keep in mind, but like Will Disley's in a better spot.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Doss Knox in a better spot. You know, Fryermuth is a touchdown or bust type of tight end if you want to, you know, play that card, you know, based on the matchup against Baltimore. So I think a desperate situation, Davis Allen, but you know, nothing with any sense of confidence. All right. Drake May is around 18 to 20 or so. You know, remember a couple weeks ago with that Seahawks Rams game I talked about if only teams would just throw on the Rams, they could be successful and it almost never happens. Well, maybe this could happen because Drake, it depends how
Starting point is 01:01:36 competitive you think the game is going to be. But Drake may is usually like, let's see 33 37, 37, 41, and 25 pass temps. 25 pass temps was in a win, a 19 to six win or whatever it was last week against the Bears. But when they lose, it's 33 or more pass temps, including a 37 pass time game and a 41 pass attempt game. That's kind of interesting to me, Dave. What if he throws 35 or more times against this defense
Starting point is 01:02:03 that's bad on a per attempt basis? You can kind of see him having that opportunity. I struggle with his receivers being able to make big plays for him repeatedly. And so the, the idea that he's going to throw a lot. Yeah. I think that's going to happen. And I even think he'll run a bunch too. I do worry about, I do worry about like, does he have two touchdowns? Does he have three? I don't think he's got the upside for three. Maybe he can get to two. If the Patriots are going to be competitive in this game, it's going to be a low scoring game. It's going to be kind of a game that might mirror what we saw from the Rams last week. All right, so we talked about like, he's in the Jamis Winston.
Starting point is 01:02:47 How far away is Drake May from Matthew Stafford in your rankings? Not far. Is six spots far? Yeah, that's kind of far. And he's kind of far. Okay, so you guys want to avoid him. He's a low end backup.
Starting point is 01:03:02 He's a backup. But we will talk about him in like, you know, an hour or so live on YouTube, if you're listening to the podcasts, yes, go listen to FFT express. All right. What do you think about Ramon Dre this week guys? Low end number two running back. Yep. You love the work.
Starting point is 01:03:21 He played every third down snap last week. I believe you got 20 carries But he is just struggling and the Rams run defense has been better if we have any remandre questions, please fire away in the chat and I don't think we're gonna be starting Keishon booty or DiMario Douglas with any confidence So hunter Henry's starter said hunter Henry Dave Richard. I Would reluctantly start him I don't like what I saw last week and maybe I need to go back over that film a little bit more closely to understand why the Patriots went with two tight ends.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It felt like they went with two tight ends a little bit more than normal. Maybe I'm off on that. I don't know, but we saw Austin Hooper getting more work than Hunter Henry. Henry did have a shot at a touchdown target in the end zone, just didn't catch it. I hoping for a bit of a bounce back against the Rams, but this is yet another reason to kind of poo poo Drake May. You just don't, you can't look at these guys and say, okay, here's who's going to help Drake May get huge numbers.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Here's going to be the reason why this offense takes off and puts up 24 points. And I can't say anymore that Hunter Henry has guaranteed volume. I would look at it this way. He's played five games now with Drake May. Four of them have been completed. In three of the four that have been completed, they've been either competitive or chasing points. The one time where they were significantly ahead of their opponent, Hunter Henry stunk. So if you think they're gonna blow out the Rams, if you think they're gonna blow out the Rams, good luck to you. Then you probably want to avoid Hunter
Starting point is 01:04:56 Henry, if you think they're going to be competitive or chasing points against a defense like this that stinks against tight ends, you should be starting Hunter Henry. That's pretty interesting point there, right? Yeah. Okay. It just, it's like, I think what concerns me is the Hooper thing. It's like what happened to Gassiki last week. You know, they will sometimes throw to another time. It's happened once since May has taken over. Um, so as far as like good numbers for Hooper, it's happened once, but he's had four targets in three of the past four games. Yeah. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:31 They don't have a, uh, uh, amazing receiving core, you know, so they're going to use different things at, and, and different players to help them in certain situations. And so yes, could Austin Hooper have, you know, his four targets be more impactful than, than Hunter Henry's six or eight? Sure. It's not out of the realm of possibility. Austin Hooper is a good player, you know, but I can't imagine if you just look at how you expect this game to go, that Hunter Henry is not a significant part of it.
Starting point is 01:05:57 He may stink, but the track record with Drake May has been pretty solid. Yeah. All right. Hunter Henry or Dawson from the chat, Hunter Henry or Dawson Knox? Henry. I'll take Knox if there's no Kincaid. Swift or Stevenson. Swift. Agreed. And Steve or Sutton or Stevenson. Sutton. That's yeah. Agreed. I can't say that's easy, but Sutton. Uh, Ramondre or Drake London. London and PPR. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Pop Douglas or Josh Downs? Downs. Agreed. All right. We're going to take one last break. We have one game left. We'll talk about Houston and Dallas when we come back. Bumble knows it's hard to start
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Starting point is 01:07:30 before it ghosts you for another year. All right, welcome back. Houston is at Dallas, our last game. CJ Stroud, starter sit. I told you how horrible the Cowboys pass defense has been their last four games. I will say that three of those games were without Micah Parsons. One game with Parsons playing two thirds of the snaps, but they have been the worst pass defense in football for the last four
Starting point is 01:07:52 games and really not close. Starter said, CJ Stroud, Jamie. I would prefer to sit him. But he is in that Stafford group, a Gino, Drake May, James Winston, all these guys that are basically like, for me it's like 13, QB 14 to 20. There's just so many guys I think it could be right around 18 to 20 fantasy points. So the plus is Nikko Collins is expected to return. The negative is he's had some stinkers with Nikko Collins even still on the field. So it would not be surprising if they throw to score run to win and he only has you know one touchdown early in the game and that's a lot of Joe Mixon. I just don't have a lot of faith in CJ Stroud right now. I don't have a lot of faith in the Cowboys keeping this game competitive.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Like their offense is just not it's obviously not that good without Dak Prescott there. So how much passing will Stroud really need to do? That hammers is upside quite a bit. I have him rake 16th and I think I might have him too high. Jamis Winston or Shroud? I have Shroud two spots out of Winston right now. I'm open to changing that. Gino Smith or Shroud?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah, I don't want to trust Gino. All right. Start Joe Mix and start Nico Collins. If he plays Tank Dell is a number three wide receiver. We've talked about him quite a bit so far. Sit Dalton Schultz, sit Cooper Rush, although I did get a Cooper Cooper Rush or who was it? Gardner Minshew, Superflex.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Yeah. All right. So then Rico Daddle and those quarterbacks have a chance to get benched during their Gardner Minshew, Superflex. Minshew. Yeah. All right, so then Rico Daddle and CD- All of those quarterbacks have a chance to get benched during their games. Rico Daddle and CD Lamb, who do you like better? Lamb.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I am. How much do you like CD Lamb this week? Number two receiver, but closer to 20 than he is to 12. Correct. Texans are 24th against wide receivers. Cooper Rush, as I mentioned earlier in the week, had one of the worst games in football history. He threw 23 passes for 45 yards. That is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Now there have been like games where guys have done five interceptions or whatever or more. Who is the guy for the bills? Or was it the Chargers? Came in and threw like six interceptions? Oh, was it Peterman? Yeah, yeah. For the Buffalo?
Starting point is 01:10:12 Yeah, that was worse. But 23, this was some type of record or near record for like most pass attempts of fewer than 50 yards for Cooper Rush. So he'll be better. Lamb or Jennings. I think I asked you that earlier. Sorry. Lambert Jennings. We, we, we, yeah, I've got lamb one spot at the Jennings. I'll take Jennings.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Lamb or a Mooney. Lamb right now. Mooney if he plays. Lamb or Ramandre Stevenson. Lamb. His fleece is as white as snow. Yeah. Mooney if he plays. Lam or Ramondre Stevenson. Lam. His fleece is as white as snow. Okay. You know, again, just, just to put it in perspective, Philadelphia's defense is not Houston's defense. You know, so what, what we saw last week was just an absolute, you know, poop storm for
Starting point is 01:11:00 the Cowboys of tough defense. Lam playing through the shoulder injury, not that he's healthier now, but he should be. His first start rushes first start, it was just a disaster, you know, so I think they're going to actually be competitive in this game, because I don't think Houston's offense has been playing that great. And it's also a night game. So we don't have to worry about the sun. That's a huge factor here. Lam or Jacoby Myers from the
Starting point is 01:11:23 chat. Jacoby Myers, Rico chat. Jacoby Myers. Rico Dowdle or Jalen Warren. Dowdle, unless Najee's out, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Yeah. Right. I think we're good here.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Hey, we're good. And sit Jake Ferguson. You guys are very low on Jake Ferguson. Houston allows the fewest fantasy points to tight ends. Start the Texans DST. And thanks for watching and listening, everybody. We'll talk to you with the mailbag later today. Also, beat the waiver wire.
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