Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC); Chase Injury; Bucs Issues (10/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

Reacting to the Ja'Marr Chase injury (2:30), how does it affect the values of Tee Higgins, Joe Burrow, Joe Mixon and Tyler Boyd? Then we'll talk about the Ravens-Buccaneers game (8:50)! It's hard to d...efend Tom Brady after that performance, but is he still a must-start guy given the state of the quarterback position? We also talk about the Ravens injuries and Isaiah Likely ... News and notes (18:00), Beat the Waiver Wire (22:00) and One Question for Each Game (26:55). You need to plan ahead for Week 9 with six teams on a bye. Meanwhile for Week 8, are there any reliable Rams other than Cooper Kupp? Who is the best RB in the Panthers-Falcons game? Geno Smith or Daniel Jones this week? ... Start or Sit for 49ers-Rams (29:30), Panthers-Falcons (42:00), Giants-Seahawks (48:40), Cardinals-Vikings (57:30), Dolphins-Lions (1:04:30), Bears-Cowboys (1:12:40) and Titans-Texans (1:17:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:42 A week ago, we had big news on a Friday morning. We had Christian McCaffrey getting traded to the 49ers. That was a lot more fun than what we're going to talk about at the start of this show. The big news, of course, being Jamar Chase out, although you probably already heard the bonus podcast. Thanks to Chris and Dave for knocking that out. And, ugh, what a, ugh. I was in a, I was upset by that game last night it was upsetting I don't like watching
Starting point is 00:02:08 this caliber of football especially from legends and as a guy who defended Tom Brady all week I don't even know if I should be on the show today so I'm sorry to everyone it really made me look so bad but what's up good morning guys
Starting point is 00:02:24 you know what we're going to spin it positive. Good morning, guys. How are you? Happy Friday. Happy Friday, Adam. I traded for Jermar Chase in the league two weeks ago, and now I acquired Jermar Chase and Rashad Bateman. I now have nothing to show for my trade.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I got one word for you. Two weeks after. I have nothing to show for my trade. I got one word for you. I spent about 90% of my remaining fab budget in the guillotine league on Jamar Chase two days ago. Yes, I got a tweet about that. I'm supposed to hug you. Yeah, it's a bummer. He's out four to six weeks reportedly, and we'll talk about that quickly.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Well, not too quickly. We'll talk Baltimore 27, Tampa Bay 22. You did get the quasi-garbage time touchdown from Brady to salvage his night a little bit. We'll give you the news and notes. We got beat the waiver. Hayden should have had one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yes, he should have. Mike Evans, of course, should have. We've got six teams on a bye next week, so you might need to beat the waiver wire. Of course, we have seven games to talk about today. San Francisco and the Rams, Carolina, Atlanta, Giants, Seahawks, Cardinals, Vikings, Miami at
Starting point is 00:03:33 Detroit, Chicago at Dallas, and we missed Tennessee, Houston yesterday, so we will cover that later. Did we really miss it? Nah, just Brandon Cooks, basically. There's three guys. Yeah, the two of them are easy. Jamie, we start with it. Nah, just Brandon Cooks, basically. There's three guys. Yeah, the two of them are easy. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So, Jamie, we start with this big news here with Jamar Chase's hip injury. He was the number four wide receiver per game and non-number five in full PPR. He was coming off two massive games in a row. And you look at his touchdowns. Six touchdowns. A couple deep balls. One where he had 27 yards after the catch. One where he had 27 yards after the catch.
Starting point is 00:04:07 One where he had 50 yards after the catch. He makes things happen. What do you think about Joe Burrow? Let's start with him. What do you think? Jamie, you can go then, Dave. Joe Burrow is QB blank for the next six weeks. First off, your sorcery works again with your Joe Mixon usage
Starting point is 00:04:25 and wanting to see him get more carries. Congratulations to you for ruining Jamar Chase. Joe Burrow is QB6. Pretty nice situation to lose Jamar Chase. It's still a little cross the field, and you have T. Higgins and Tyler Boyd. So he loses from QB2, QB3 to, you know, you're not benching Joe Burrow anytime soon. The T Higgins becomes a top 10 receiver.
Starting point is 00:04:51 If he wasn't there already, Tyler Boyd becomes a top 20 receiver if he wasn't trending there already. And the first thing you should do, if you're listening to this is go see if Hayden Hearst is available and go pick them up because there's going to be some potential uptake and targets and hopefully production as well. So Joe Mixon, you know, the splits that you were hoping to see, Adam, I'm sure you'll get back to that, you know, where Zach Taylor leans more on the run. So no concern about only waiting until the fourth quarter to get those nine carries that
Starting point is 00:05:16 you were begging for. For the record, I actually, I wouldn't exactly say that I was hoping to see them. I couldn't care less. I mean, I do have some mixing, but I actually like them when they're aggressive, throwing the ball a lot. They're really good for football. That's probably what you said yesterday. You said, I hate the passing game for the Bengals. I'd like
Starting point is 00:05:34 to see this stop in some way, shape, or form and Joe Mixon get more carries. To say that Joe Burrow's top six, I think it's maybe an indictment on the quarterback position. Do you think he's just going to be as good? Jamar Chase just makes so many plays. top six, I think it's maybe an indictment on the quarterback position. I mean, do you think he's just going to be, right? Because he can't be as good. Jamar Chase just makes so many plays.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's not a knock on Burrow, but how could you lose Jamar Chase and just pick up where you left off, Dave? You can't, but he went into this week tied for fourth on the trade chart. And now, who would you rather have rest of season? Burrow without Chase for the next four weeks? Or Justin Herbert, who, who knows when he's going to get his receivers back and healthy and at full
Starting point is 00:06:10 strength. I think I'd still rather have Joe burrow. So he's going all the way from tied for fourth to fifth for me and still a startable fantasy quarterback. I remember what he did in 2020. He played 10 games or so, averaged right around 19 fantasy points per game. He didn't have Chase.
Starting point is 00:06:31 He had Higgins. He had Boyd. He was younger then. And I don't know if the coaching staff trusted him then like they might now. So he could be a little bit better than that. But I don't expect him to still put up huge fantasy numbers. And I think that goes without saying. I disagree a little bit better than that, but I don't expect him to still put up huge fantasy numbers, and I think that goes without saying.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I disagree a little bit on Higgins. I don't know if he's top 10. I think he's top 12, top 15, so it's just a tiny pushback. I'm good with Boyd as a top 24 receiver. Agree 100% on Hayden Hurst. Great guy to add. Finally, another tight end that we could add to the mix who's better than just a touchdown or bust guy.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Starting him over Kyle Pitts this week? Yep. Yep. He's 64% rostered. The two games where T. Higgins left with an injury, he had 46 yards and he had 53 yards and a touchdown. He had seven to eight targets in both of those games. So you're certainly hoping for more production.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It's not as landunked that he's going to be great, but at least there's a chance for him to be good. Exactly. And how many tight ends are there who are like that? Right. They've got more than a chance to be a touchdown or bust. Kyle Pitts is a touchdown or bust tight end now. Hayden Hurst is better than that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 The only other quarterback I can think of to compare to Burrow, because we're going to take Lamar Jackson, Patrick Holmes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts clearly ahead of him. Herbert, you're saying still Burrow. What about Kyler? For now, behind him. If Mike Williams isn't out for an extended period of time, I'd take Herbert over. But it's going to be like four weeks.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, well, I mean, we don't know what's going to happen coming off their bye week. So if it's one week and then he's still got a three-week window ahead of Jamar Chase, then I would take Justin Herbert. Well, I'm sorry, Dave. You said behind him, I didn't know what you meant. Who's... Kyler Murray or Joe Burrow, rest of season? I've got Burrow right now, but we'll see what happens after this week. All right. Okay. Kyler is another
Starting point is 00:08:17 good week and scores more touchdowns, and Hopkins is a superstar. Kyler hasn't had a good week in a month. I know. So he's got to come. Well, last week was a step in the right direction. If you ask me for fantasy, it's been a long time since he's been good,
Starting point is 00:08:30 but if he, if he looks like a quarterback that can get you a 20 to 25 a week, I think I'd probably put them ahead of borough, but we'll see for now. He's not. Okay. We've got a lot of great content coming up this weekend, including fantasy football today,
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Starting point is 00:09:46 because fantasy football can be so depressing. So, well, I was very upset by last night's game. I really was. All the injuries, holy cow. But here's the joke. What do you call a beach that keeps losing its sand? A shore loser. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So here's Bucks and Ravens. Yeah, that just made me forget about all my fantasy football problems. Thank you. The Ravens had the ball for 38 minutes and 23 seconds. Tampa Bay barely had the ball. 21 minutes, 37 seconds. Updates on the injuries. Mark Andrews' shoulder.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Gus Edwards' hamstring. They're sort of downplaying them right now. They've got the Saints next week, then a bye. We'll see what happens. Shaq Barrett, though, not downplaying that. Linebacker for the Bucs. Great pass rusher. Go back to the Ravens for a second.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You have an opportunity to say this every time there's a thursday game go get a tight end now there's a very realistic possibility that mark andrews with the knee with the shoulder that they may sit him get him healthy for their bi-week that's the one position you could try and save yourself you could find running backs you can find receivers potentially but you have an opportunity to find a single position that there may be somebody you can get right now hayden hearst being the guy we just said find someone you can help you for at least for week nine right you should met bateman should be mentioned too yeah sorry bateman with the foot right yeah but i mean he's he's dropped all this point agreed um i can't really recommend will disley but will disley gets arizona next week arizona and se, the two worst against tight ends. They face off
Starting point is 00:11:26 next week. Let's see. Who could you get? Hayden Hurst would obviously be our favorite. I would say Harrison Bryant, but I believe the Browns are buying week nine. They do. Dalton Schultz in shallow league. Dalton says they're buying week nine.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Boy. Irv Smith. You can't get KK down because they played last night. Oh, that's Smith. You can't get KK down because they played last night. Oh, that's right. You can't do that. Irv Smith at Washington. How about Logan Thomas?
Starting point is 00:11:53 You know, Logan Thomas was pretty darn good with Taylor Heineke last year. He was like a top eight tight end if you remove the game. He played two snaps. He gets Minnesota next week. You could add him and sit on him
Starting point is 00:12:03 and hope that he plays. Yeah, I mean, I know we're grasping for straws here, but it's not exactly a deep position. Go on, Johnson, if he's still the guy. Same game. All right, and for the Bucs, you had Shaq Barrett with an Achilles injury, and that might be a season ender, and that's a tough one. Okay, so...
Starting point is 00:12:20 Aside from the teams and the fans in their respective cities, how are we all not rooting for the Panthers to win that division right now? Because if they win this weekend, they're in first place. I think I'm more of a Falcons guy. I'm more of a Falcons guy. I like the Falcons. I don't know why. I've always liked them.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Since the Dirty Bird days, I've kind of had a thing for the Falcons. Now they're going to lose the next five games. You do the Dirty Bird dance, don't you? No, now they're going to lose their next five games. So fantasy takeaways, Jamie, from this game. Why don't you talk about Tampa Bay first and what's going on there? I mean, at this point, it's just status quo. There's nothing really to tell you.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You're starting Brady unless you have a better quarterback option. You're obviously starting the two receivers. And you're starting Fournette. I mean, it's ugly. It two receivers and you're starting for net. You know, I mean, it's a, it's ugly. It's just what they are at this point.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Thankfully, the targets have been consistent and the production has been consistent to whatever degree you've been seeing it from Evans and for Godwin, you know, Godwin just hasn't scored touchdowns yet, but he's been a nice floor play in PPR. He hasn't delivered on what we expected, but I think that's the production will start to come, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:13:26 The touchdowns will start to come, hopefully. Excuse me. Evans has been fine. You know, Fournette has been very frustrating, but at least he's done something to help you in some way, shape, or form, whether it's been the catches or the touchdowns. Last night was the touchdowns. So, again, you're not getting, you know, negative production
Starting point is 00:13:41 for where you're starting these guys. You're just not getting the ceiling from them. So, I think for the Bucs, just kind of roll with it. The one guy that's replaceable of those main options is Brady. And probably the minute that you bench him is the minute that he starts to click and get things right. So just take that for what it's worth and just know what you're getting
Starting point is 00:13:57 with whoever you're going to start and place him. How much faith do you have that he is going to get things right? You know, the offensive line was always going to be, okay, what happens if the line does struggle and he's facing pressure and he's in a lot of, you know, long down and distance situations. That's not favorable for a 45 year old quarterback at this stage of his career. And so not all of it's on him by any stretch. I think there'll be some better days ahead. How confident am I?
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'd be looking for alternatives. You know, if my, if my fantasy ahead. How confident am I? I'd be looking for alternatives. If my fantasy team's in a good spot, I'd be looking for alternatives. I'm losing confidence. I thought he was off target. He was officially off target on six throws last night. I thought it was eight. I think he held the ball too long on four throws where he could have had some better gains.
Starting point is 00:14:39 He should have been picked off three separate times in the game. Great throws. I tracked that. He had four of them. I'm nervous about him. I don't think the offensive line is the biggest problem. At least it wasn't last night. I think it was Brady. I think that he just doesn't have the same type of like perfection on his
Starting point is 00:14:56 throws. Like that early throw in the game where Evans was open in the end zone, just too much touch on it, too much air under it. And if it was a shorter pass, not a shorter pass, but a faster pass, I think that Evans would have scored on the play. And we probably would be feeling a lot better. He's been terrible inside the 10 the last two weeks. I'm a little more nervous than Jamie is,
Starting point is 00:15:17 but not to the point where I'm going to say you can't start Brady. He's absolutely horrible. But I agree. You've got to look and see what other quarterbacks are out there, and this is another position you could go and check out now and add somebody in the wake of this game. You still have a Friday and a Saturday.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Fields is a great guy to add with all the buys next week. Super one. Man, that throw to Mike Evans, I haven't seen every throw he's made, but that may have been the worst throw he's made all year. Inexcusable to miss Mike Evans there. He had back-to-back inside the 10 lawn darts last week.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I know, but those guys were covered. Mike Evans was wide open in the back of the end zone. I don't think so. Brady can't get out of the pocket, so I think when he throws these lawn darts, I think that's his way of throwing the ball away to avoid grounding. But I can't really defend him anymore. I mean, he had a horrible game. There's really no denying it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's frustrating. Teams aren't blitzing him as much. He is getting rid of the ball very quickly. But he's also just still not getting enough from Godwin. A lot of targets. He had a 44-yard catch in this game, and he was basically like a running back for a lot of his catches. How many throws at the line of scrimmage for Godwin. A lot of targets. He had a 44-yard catch in this game, and he was basically like a running back for a lot of his catches. How many throws
Starting point is 00:16:28 at the line of scrimmage for Godwin? His route depth is still extremely low. Please, just get Bruce Arians back. That's what we need. We need a little Bruce Arians. Only for the press conferences. How about for the Ravens? I wish they had used Gus Edwards more. He averaged six
Starting point is 00:16:43 yards per carry. That was disappointing. Dave, any Ravens? Any big Ravens? Here is Hamstring, though. Well, yeah, but even before that. I mean, I wish they had used him more. Who knows at what point, though, it started to bother him. He might have tried to play through it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Maybe, but it was disappointing that he didn't start. I don't think he played until their second series. Actually, technically, their third series, because he didn't play on their first drive. And then they got the ball back after the muff punt. And then he wasn't even in then, and they were near the goal line. So there was a little frustrating. And when he ran mad, did he look good?
Starting point is 00:17:14 But unfortunately he's got this hamstring injury and we'll see what happens with him. Drake really didn't run that well outside of the 40 yard gain. He had late, um, got lucky with touchdown catch, available in 54% of leagues. I don't know if there's a Ravens running back that you can feel really good about having on your team. But if we get through the weekend and no one else gets hurt, he will be a popular add for one week because he's got the Saints in week nine.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Jamie, are you going to start Isaiah likely next week against a team that is second best against tight ends if Mark Andrews is out, likely had 77 yards and a touchdown on seven targets? I will likely put him in the low end starting range. Okay. Chris Towers last night said, and of course we're not going to hold him to this, that he'd rank him third next week if Mark Andrews were out.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So he'd be very excited. We're going to take a break here. When we come back, we'll give you your news and notes. Beat the waiver wire. One question for each game and we will get into it. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic.
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Starting point is 00:18:56 DeAndre Swift practiced in full, so we're feeling good about him. You guys ranking James Conner yet? Not yet. No, let's see what he does on Friday. All righty. Let's see what he does on Friday. All righty. Let's see what else we got here at running back. Daryl Henderson's got this illness. He should be good.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Raheem Mostert was limited with a knee injury. That's a downgrade, so we'll keep an eye on that. Still no Chuba Hubbard. So we'll see if he practices today, but that would obviously have a pretty big impact on how we rank Deontay Foreman. The Bears are going to go running back by committee, and the Jets are going to use the hot hand approach.
Starting point is 00:19:31 When you see that about the Jets, does that make you back off of Michael Carter, Dave? I was backing off of Michael Carter anyway, just because I figure that they're going to use both backs, and Robinson's better suited at the goal line, and I would tell you that Carter's better suited at the goal line. And I would tell you that Carter's better suited in the passing game, but Zach Wilson doesn't throw to his running backs very much. So I'm kind of not excited about the Jets running backs.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Plus, their offensive line got worse with Vera Tucker getting hurt. I'm not excited. Hey, how about Kadarius Toney on the Chiefs now? 54% roster. Jamie, give me a 30-second reaction of what it means for Tony, for Juju, MVS, etc. It's definitely better for Tony's long-term value, so Dynasty managers should be thrilled,
Starting point is 00:20:17 especially if the Chiefs do not retain either one of Juju Smith-Schuster or Mikko Hardman next year. It is bad for Sky Moore's Dynasty value because now there's another young receiver that he's going to have to share the field with at some point. So tough scenario for him. For this season, I don't know if it's going to make much of a difference, but I think it's worth your time to add Kadarius Toney
Starting point is 00:20:35 if you have an open roster spot just to see. And lo and behold, those hamstrings. I'm sure they're just magically healed. Yeah. Well, he says he's healthy. I guess the Giants didn't really want to rush him back. And they have a bye this week, so he could certainly— They wanted to rush him out.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah. It really seems that way. And rush him out, I don't know. But they obviously didn't value him based on his talent. Anyway, he's on a bye, and the Chiefs maybe get Kadarius Toney going next week. Debo Samuel still missing practice, so we got to keep an eye on that. That's the first game we're going to talk about today. Devontae Adams has a bad flu,
Starting point is 00:21:09 but he is expected to play at the Saints. Amonra St. Brown still in the concussion protocol, but he's expected. You know what happens if Adams plays, you could say? He flew in for the game. What? He flewed you. He flewed you.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Good. Corey Davis missed practice. He flewed you. Good. Corey Davis mispracticed. Julio Jones played. I don't know why I still have him in the notes. Jarvis Landry and Michael... I brought Burgundy? Jarvis Landry and Michael Thomas mispracticed. Nico Collins mispracticed. Christian Watkins and
Starting point is 00:21:40 Sammy Watkins were limited, and Alan Lazard is almost certainly not going to play this week. Noah Brown mispracticed. What else? What else? Sammy Watkins were limited, and Alan Lazard is almost certainly not going to play this week. Noah Brown, mispractice. What else? What else? Guys, Rashad Bateman is questionable. Mark Andrews is questionable. Do you think they're going to play today? Do you know the status
Starting point is 00:21:56 of J.K. Dobbins, Adam? Not yet. I wish we would have said sit Mark Andrews and Rashad Bateman. Yeah. D.K. Metcalf mispractice. They haven't ruled him out yet. I'm assuming we'res in the shot deck. Yeah, right? Yeah. DK Metcalf missed practice, so they haven't ruled him out yet. I'm assuming we're not expecting him to play. And Johan Dotson's not going to play this week.
Starting point is 00:22:12 David Njoku did not rule himself out yet. He's supposed to miss two to five weeks. Probably going to miss the game. They're playing Monday, but he didn't rule himself out yet. I think Dalton Schultz got in a limited sesh. Logan Thomas, 18% roster. He scored nine and a half or more PPR fantasy points
Starting point is 00:22:28 in four out of five healthy games last season with Taylor Heineke. He had 30 to 48 yards in all five games. No Curtis Samuel really last year. No Dotson. I'm not saying he's going to do it again, but Logan Thomas was a top. If you take out the game that he missed,
Starting point is 00:22:44 that he played two snaps last year, I think he was a top eight tight end per game, two straight seasons. And that's pretty much going to do it for our news and notes. Let's play Beat the Waver Wire. Six teams on a bye next week. Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Giants, Niners, Steelers. And the Giants have the best record of all of those teams.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I just want to point that out, just in case everybody was not aware of that. All right. I mean, obviously we need players, but I have a whole list here. I don't know who you guys like. I think Justin Fields against the Dolphins makes sense. I don't know that I love any other quarterback matchups.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I don't trust Tannehill at Kansas City even in a good matchup. Mariota against the Chargers? I don't know. Should we just say Fields is the guy? Fields is the guy. I might say Tannehill is next best, but it's a big gap. Who do the Colts have? Next week?
Starting point is 00:23:52 I got it. The Colts have next week I got it the Colts have Patriots on the road yeah not good for Ellinger if he's good Ellen Gerr baby oh yeah Gerr we're just gonna call him Gerr you could also start thinking about adding Deshaun Watson if I'm not going to get into the morality of it. You can do what you want. But he's not too, too far away. I think week 13 he'll be back. I don't know if you want to stash Cam Akers ahead of the trade deadline. No, but you know a couple players that you could be looking to add for this week.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Malcolm Brown, in case this illness for Daryl Henderson is a problem. Kieran Williams, if you're not looking for somebody right away, because it's not guaranteed he's going to play, but he would be the better of the two, I think. Dearness Johnson is someone to pick up ahead of the trade deadline, just in case Kareem Hunt is traded. He's somebody that could clearly be an injury away
Starting point is 00:24:37 if Hunt is gone to superstardom. And we certainly saw that last year at one point. He played for both the guys. So there's a couple of names you could just be looking ahead right now, running back-wise to beat the rush. I like where you're going with that. I like Kyron Williams. How about Jermichael Hasty in Jacksonville?
Starting point is 00:24:59 He's the next guy up behind ETN. I wonder what they would do, though, because with Snoop Conner, too. I know that Snoop Conner's there. I don't know if they trust him in certain situations yet yeah i mean hasty's the right one you're you're dead on with that but i just wonder like if it's if something happens etn how much of a committee is it oh it'll probably be it'll probably be a duo but i think most of the high value touches will go to hasty and we kind of skipped over the packers injuries, but Christian Watson's been practicing,
Starting point is 00:25:26 and he's available in 86% of leagues. And we know what his upside is. We know the Packers, they're a mess right now, but Rodgers is looking for anybody who can make plays in the passing game. Maybe he comes through. Also, for wide receiver, I would like to point out josh palmer 28 percent rostered with mike williams not expected to play atlanta is their matchup they give up the most fantasy points to wide receivers in week nine josh palmer you could take a look at him man jefferson too
Starting point is 00:25:57 yeah man jefferson darnell jefferson's a good stash um adam i know on your list you've got darnell mooney i think he's a good stash um Adam I know on your list you've got Darnell Mooney and he's a good stash I would take anybody who's playing this week ahead of anybody who's not playing this week so I wouldn't stash Palmer I wouldn't stash McCall Hardman I wouldn't stash MBS if he's out there over guys like Mooney Watson um and other receivers that have a shot to wow I think Palmer of all those guys. Yeah, well, this is just a stash. I mean, if you don't need these guys for next week.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I think you can get Palmer next week. I don't think you have to stash him. That's why you want to get ahead of it, though. That's why we're beating the waiver wire, baby. Yeah, we don't want to take that. I don't know how many people are going to be clamoring for Josh Palmer. But they're clamoring for Darnell Mooney? Well, no, but if Mooney has a good game somehow against Dallas,
Starting point is 00:26:44 you'll be happy you have him. Same thing with Christian Watson. Same thing with I'd rather spend a $0 bid on Josh Palmer as opposed to when every waiver wire column next week is going to be saying, pick up Josh Palmer because Mike Williams is out. Honestly, how much fab are you going to spend on Josh Palmer next week?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Zero versus one. It's one less dollar you get. It doesn't... We're just giving you a name if you want to consider getting ahead of it here this i'm just trying to be hyper efficient with my waiver ads i get it and mooney's a lot more roster than palmer and and they've got the dolphins who have a very depleted secondary next week so you know mooney's not a bad guy to stash how about last one elijah moore how do you feel about him and of course hayden hearst is now in this discussion as well but how do you feel about el? And of course, Hayden Hurst is now in this discussion as well, but how do you feel about Elijah Moore? Not
Starting point is 00:27:27 good. With the hope he gets traded? No, with the hope that he is revived. I can't see him getting revived on this team at this point. Corey Davis probably has to miss the rest of the season and they're just desperate. Joe Flacco needs to be under center for me to like Elijah Moore. And the way that that worked out before
Starting point is 00:27:43 was like nine PPR points a game. Okay. One question for each game, San Francisco at the Rams. Do you trust any Rams other than Cooper cup, Dave Richard? Yeah, I trust Tyler Higby.
Starting point is 00:27:56 He had a huge PPR game last time these two teams played, and he's got a pretty decent track record of scoring on San Francisco. And I just, I doubt that the Rams are about to become a running team, especially in this game. 49ers are awesome against the run. So the way they get around the run is a bunch of dink and dunk passes. Higby picks up a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Totally good with Higby this week. Okay. The Panthers Falcons, huge game in the NFC South. Who's the best running back in this game, Jamie, Carolina, Atlanta. Both Panthers guys if they play over any Falcons guys,
Starting point is 00:28:31 unless Cordero Patterson is miraculously healed. He can't be. He's on IR. He can't play in the game, even if he is miraculously healed. I think Hubbard won't play, and therefore there's only one running back really worth starting in this game, and it's Foreman, and I think he's going to be a number two
Starting point is 00:28:45 running back this week. I'm excited. Okay, Giants Seahawks. Who's the best quarterback in this game? I'll take Geno. Who'd you say, Jim? Daniel Jones. How come? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Go ahead. Go ahead, Jamie. Oh, how come? I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His rushing ability is going to help him score more fantasy points than Geno Smith, who's going to be without DK Metcalf. I get it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I think this is a favorable matchup for Geno, all things being equal, because the pressure that the Giants put on quarterbacks isn't like what he's had to deal with the past couple of games. Obviously not having DK Metcalf makes him a bus candidate for sure. But I think that he's still got potential. He still can throw the ball really well to lock it to Goodwin to his tight ends. And not that I love, I don't love Gino Smith, but I think he's got a better shot to get close to 18 fantasy points than Daniel Jones. Okay. I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'll talk to you about that matchup a little bit later because I think on paper, what Gino Smith does well is also what the giants do well defensively. And we can talk about, we'll talk about that game in depth. You know, I actually thought giant Seahawks is going to be a pretty easy game to preview, but I actually think it's a fascinating matchup. I think it's going to be a fun game. It might be the best game of the week.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, I mean, I'll decide that, but starters hit with some fun music. Okay, starters hit time here. Let's go to San Francisco and the Rams. The Rams now are 1-7 in their last eight games
Starting point is 00:30:23 against the 49ers, including the playoffs. And in those games, they're averaging 17.1 points per game. I really think the big question here is which 49ers defense shows up because they have been miserable the last two weeks. 28 points allowed to the Falcons, 44 points allowed to the Chiefs. They're giving up big plays all over the field. They're maybe getting a little healthier. I think Samson Ebucam might be able to come back.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I hope Dre Greenlaw can play Jimmy Ward. Jason Verrett, I'm not sure if he's in play this week or he's coming off IR. I think he is. So what do you think, Dave? Are we getting a closer version to the elite? He's not going to be elite, but are they going to be a good defense
Starting point is 00:31:06 or the layup matchup that they've been basically the last two weeks? I think they'll be a good defense. I think that they're going to give the Rams a hard time. Rams, I don't think the bye was enough time for them to get their offensive line healthy and to reconfigure their offense. They're going to, I bet they fall back on what they've been doing all year, which is letting Matthew Stafford throw a ton. 49ers will be prepared for that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 They've talked all week to Miko Ryan's and everybody has talked all week about how their offense is Cooper cup, Cooper cup, Cooper cup. And so my guess is that their number one game plan is going to be, don't let Cooper cup run free deep. So you'll see him get double teamed. The Rams combat to that has been to just let cup run
Starting point is 00:31:46 short routes and just pepper him and hope that he can break free for some yards after the catch. What they might be able to do differently. If van Jefferson plays is use Jefferson on intermediate and deeper throws. I wouldn't count on van Jefferson and fantasy because we just don't know how good it'll be or how much he'll play, but that could be a counter move that they would make the counter move. They won't make is run the ball. They just, they're not going to be able to do it. The 49ers run defense is too good. So I'm, I'm nervous about the Rams. You asked the question about who else is a safe start besides cup. I think we answered that with Tyler Higbee. And I think the 49ers DST is a good start this week. I think they'll get after Stafford
Starting point is 00:32:22 and Stafford's thrown a pick six or something close to that. Defenses have scored a touchdown on the Rams. I think it's four straight games or four of the past five. If you give me a second, I will tell you exactly what it is. I have it. It's each of the past three games and four of the past five.
Starting point is 00:32:40 A DST has scored against the Rams. You could probably bank on it happening again. Oh, that's not something you could bank on, Dave. I'd go to your bank. The way that the Rams are going to move the ball around, I think the 49ers will be able to capitalize. I'm starting the 49ers DST. What odds do you want that the Niners score a defensive touchdown?
Starting point is 00:33:00 What do I have to put up for you to grow a mustache if the 49ers defense or special teams? Cause that counts too. It's DST. Um, you have to send me, you have to send me lunch. Let's make a food bet.
Starting point is 00:33:20 That doesn't benefit our audience. Oh, then I don't know. I don't know what you have to put up. $1,000. I'll grow a mustache. You'll give me $1,000. Jamie, I owe you a little bit of money.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Can I keep it and we can start building a pot toward this? Leave me out of it. You guys make your own bet on this. I think $1,000 for a mustache is worth it. Yeah, I think so. I'll win $1,000 if they don't. Do I have to pay you the $1,000 all at once? Oh, absolutely. Or could I pay you $1 a year for 1,000 years?
Starting point is 00:33:48 Which quarterback do you prefer in this game, Stafford or Garoppolo? Garoppolo. Stafford slightly. Okay, man. How do you see this game going, dude, James? Because I have no confidence in Stafford coming through with good. I see this being a
Starting point is 00:34:07 get the run game going for San Francisco because they need to to get back on track. What did they have for the last eight days is the guy that they just traded for and spent their future on. I think it's a McCaffrey game for the 49ers, especially if Debo doesn't play.
Starting point is 00:34:23 That's why I would favor Stafford. I agree with you. I don't think Stafford's going to have a good game, but I don't think Garoppolo's going to have a good game either because I think it's going to be, you know, at best case scenario for him is like a 202. Because unless this game gets sideways for San Francisco, which means it's getting sideways for San Francisco
Starting point is 00:34:39 because Stafford had a good game. Because I agree, they're not going to run on them. So the only way Garoppolo, I think, has a great game is if the 49ers come out and say, we are throwing the ball, throwing the ball, throwing the ball, and that would just go counterproductive to everything, I think, that they want to be right now. I don't think they can do that if they don't have Debo.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I don't think they would think. That's what I'm saying. I don't think either quarterback is good, but if I had to choose one, I'm taking Stafford because that's the only path, I think, to one of these quarterbacks in this game getting to the point where it needs to be for these quarterbacks to play well, is Stafford getting it there. Would you start Russell Wilson over Matthew Stafford? Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yes. But I would start Garoppolo over Russ. I know you guys would start Dalton and Daniel Jones ahead of these guys. I'll start Garoppolo over those guys. I would start Garoppolo over both these guys easily. You'd start Jones and Dalton?
Starting point is 00:35:28 Easily. Dave would not. He'd start Garoppolo. I would over Stafford, not Garoppolo. Dave also likes PJ Walker better than Stafford, but not Garoppolo. Correct. The running backs, are we sitting Daryl Henderson? I would try to. I'm not excited about him.
Starting point is 00:35:48 He might be able to be decent in PPR, might be able to catch three or four passes. That's the counter move that the Rams could make is using him out of the backfield, but I'm not sure how effective I'm sorry. I don't know how effective it will be if he's not practicing a lot this week and they've got, they don't have just Malcolm Brown behind them. Not that Malcolm Brown's any good.
Starting point is 00:36:06 They've got Ronnie rivers too. Um, we'll, we'll see. I, I just, I don't, I don't want to start him knowing that he had a terrible game against them playing as a part-time back earlier this year. Doesn't have a great track record against them in general. And it's, it's just a really good run defense. Like that has stayed true throughout their entire run the past two weeks where their defense has been bad.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It's been against the pass, not as much against the run. The range of Daryl Henderson is Najee Harris and David Montgomery and Michael Carter and those guys are just all questionable starts at best. He's never scored on the Niners. He's been under 48 total yards in five of six career meetings. Now, again, some of those times he was a part-time player. This week he should be, I think,
Starting point is 00:36:52 their lead guy. But that might mean 10 carries and two catches. Okay, let's go to Alan Robinson coming off a good game. I think you guys have him ranked similarly to Wondale Robinson. Who would you rather have, Allen or Wandale Robinson?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Wandale in PPR by a mile and half PPR as well. Non-PPR is close. I mean, you're counting on these guys scoring touchdowns. And so I think Allen Robinson has two, and he's played the majority of the season. And Wandale Robinson has one, and he's played two games. Right. has two and he's played the majority of the season and Wanda Robinson has one. He's played two games. So, um, right.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Rob Allen Robinson does have, uh, an end zone target in every single game. He's among the leaders and end zone targets. And how about this? The 49ers, the first four weeks of the year, they allowed six completions of 20 or more yards in the last three weeks. They've allowed 13 completions of 20 or more yards.
Starting point is 00:37:44 That's third most in football. And they're just getting, Oh, uh, I, I, what did I say? I said 13 over the last three weeks,
Starting point is 00:37:53 right? Yes. Okay. So I'll tell you week. What I would say, I would treat Alan Robinson like, like I would have touched down or bust tight end. He could score.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And he also might finish with two catches, 14 yards, and a touchdown. Seven last week against the Chiefs. Yeah, so. But that's the Chiefs. None against the Falcons, probably. What was that, week six? Zaccheaus might have had one. I remember Zaccheaus having a big play
Starting point is 00:38:19 in that game. Hodge might have had a big play. Two against the Falcons, and then four the week before that. None to London or Pitts because the Falcons stink. Let's go here. Tyler Higbee is a start. And you start him over Pitts, of course. You're starting
Starting point is 00:38:35 over Dalton Schultz, Jimmy Garoppolo. Dave has him 12th. Jamie has him 17th. Christian McCaffrey, slam dunk, or actually, is he behind ETN, Ken Walker, Tony Pollard? No. He's behind Pollard in non-PPR. That's an easy one.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Behind Walker in non-PPR, it's an easy one. Full PPR, he's ahead of those guys. He is behind Henry, Barkley, and Jacobs for me in non-PPR. He is at the top of the list in full PPR. Oh, all right. I mean, the Rams do have a great run defense here, but he just faced them and had 13 carries for 69 yards, and he had seven catches for 89 yards two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:39:14 That last part of it, though, that's the key. Right. Will they throw it to him the same way? How many catches do you think he gets in this game? I'd say five. Let's set the over-under at five and a half which side is everybody going to be on that would be something well i think i'd be on the under two but i agree with five i think five is doable i'd say more if debo doesn't play right maybe but i i'm not ready
Starting point is 00:39:41 to say well he's never going to catch passes because passes because Kyle Shanahan has a track record of not throwing to his running backs. He's never had Christian McCaffrey or a guy like Christian McCaffrey in his backfield. Yeah, Pete Prisco on Monday said he spoke to some guys in the league about the trade and that he said it's on our show on HQ, so if you want to go back and look at it, that this would be the dumbest trade in history if they don't throw to Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Of course. Yes, exactly. All right, and Shanahan's a smart guy. Does Brandon Ayuk start or sit? I think he's an easy start if Samuel doesn't play. And even if Samuel plays, he might be less than 100%, might be a decoy. I like Ayuk.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I've got him as a number two receiver. Again, I'll go back to, I think, how this game's going to go. If Debo plays, I think he's at best the number three receiver in three receiver leagues. If Debo is out, then he's a borderline starter. I just don't see the 49ers having the same volume that they've had the last couple of weeks because I don't think they're chasing points to the same level.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Kittle or Higby? Kittle. Kittle. Kittle's number one for me this week. Oh, we have now reached a full season 17 games the last 17 games
Starting point is 00:40:50 the Rams have played they have allowed one touchdown to a tight end it was George Kittle in the NFC championship game but that's
Starting point is 00:41:00 that's it one touchdown to a tight end in the first matchup he had two catches for 24 yards on four targets. All right, so you're going to start him.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Dave's very optimistic about him. And which DST do you like better in this game, Rams or Niners? Niners. Rams. Okay, great. But they're both worth starting. Yep. All righty.
Starting point is 00:41:21 We're going to take a quick break here, our last one of the show. And when we come back, Carolina at Atlanta, the showdown. I'm at the Rams. I'm at the 49ers. They're both back like Rickles. OK, 40. Then we'll just say 49ers. Yeah, we'll take a break.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And Carolina, Atlanta, when we come back. Welcome back. Could be a good game for at least one wide receiver. These two teams see the most wide receiver targets per game in the NFL, and Atlanta allows the most fantasy points to wide receivers. And that's our stat of the game, Jamie. Atlanta has allowed...
Starting point is 00:41:52 So here it is. 11 wide receivers have scored 15 or more PPR fantasy points against the Falcons in seven games. I mean, that is crazy. They've had some successes, but for the most part, they're just awful against the position. However, of those 11 wide receivers who have scored 15 or more points,
Starting point is 00:42:09 10 of them have had eight or more targets. The only exception was T. Higgins, who had seven targets. So the question is about DJ Moore, of course. You can't get a better matchup. Will he have the volume? And do you start him? You don't really want to start Brandon Ayuk if Deebo Samuel playsuel plays would you start dj moore over him tell me about dj moore yeah i'm excited about dj moore you know i think what we we got the first game without christian mccaffrey and we saw
Starting point is 00:42:34 you know 10 targets and it's the second time in the last four weeks he's had double digits and targets and the first time he had 12 ppr points and last week he scored his you know scored a touchdown so um i have no faith in PJ Walker, but I think PJ Walker at least did what he was supposed to do last week, which was get DJ more of the ball. And so this is a game where I think he can do the same thing again. At least I hope so. So,
Starting point is 00:42:54 you know, the nice thing about it was that Walker showed that he could throw the ball past the line of scrimmage. And so with AJ Terrell, not expected to go with Casey. Hey, we're not there. You know,
Starting point is 00:43:02 secondary is already, you know, beat up to begin with pass rush. shouldn't be too much of an issue. They're going to try and run the ball and run the ball and run the ball, but I think they'll still get DJ Moore his 8 to 10 targets, and I think in that type of scenario, he should be fine. Your prop bet, I think, is in trouble. Adam, the one you gave us for Friday's show,
Starting point is 00:43:16 PJ Walker under half a touchdown, I think we'll get one, and that one will go to DJ Moore. Yes. Hold on real quick. For the record, we have to give uh props it's a fun segment fun seconds we do on hq uh the props were horrible that was like the only one that had any decent odds it was plus money pj walker under half a touchdown it could easily happen by the way but if you look at the rankings the biggest thing that jumps out i think is that dave is pretty high on pj walker and talk about that dave why why are you high on, on Walker? Hi. You know, he's worth high being that he's like a top 16 quarterback.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah. I think that's pretty noteworthy. And Jamie just laid it out for me. The, the Falcons defense is missing its top cornerbacks. Their pass rush. Isn't that great? Panthers offensive line has started to play a little bit better too, over the past few weeks.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And Walker made some money throws in week number seven. I'm encouraged that three of the targets that DJ more ad went further than 10 air yards and they were, they were accurate. I think Walker, if he's got time to throw can make some big throws. And I think we'll see that again. I wouldn't, I'm not rushing to start PJ Walker. He's at best a bi-week replacement of quarterback, but I think he'll be good. And I think DJ Moore's got a shot to be must start as a flex and maybe a low end number two fantasy wide receiver. I'm, I'm, I'm encouraged by what I saw. Yeah. He's, he's nearly top 15 for me. He's in top 20 now. DJ Moore. Yeah, sure. And the fact that there isn't another pass catcher in carolina holds back pj walker
Starting point is 00:44:46 from being um like even like a top 12 type of fantasy quarterback all right so are we sitting drake london and kyle pitts yes well pitts is a little different yeah uh let's do pitts real quick here pitts or schultz schult. I will take Schultz in PPR. Non-PPR, I think I would take Pitts. Pitts or the Saints tight ends? The Saints tight ends. I will take Taysom Hill in non-PPR. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:19 How about like a... Just make sure Jawan Johnson plays, because if he does, he should be good. Mike Gasicki or Kyle Pitts. He found the barometer. There we go. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:31 So the running backs are interesting here. You know, the run defenses are also kind of hard to get a grip on. Maybe they're like average, a little below average. I don't know that these are cake matchups here. They're not. I keep going back to this Chuba Hubbard versus Deontay Foreman thing. Hubbard was a lot better
Starting point is 00:45:52 and a lot more involved than Foreman before he left with an injury. Foreman had nine of his 15 carries after Hubbard left, and they only combined for 12 carries in the first three quarters. They are a bad football team, I think. But they've been keeping it close pretty well recently, the Carolina Panthers,
Starting point is 00:46:12 and of course the Falcons almost always do. So, you know, these guys are really tough, I think. Jamie, lay out your thoughts on Foreman, Hubbard, if he plays, and Algier. I think it's going to be a Foreman week, even if Hubbard does play, because Hubbard clearly is not 100%. So, you know, while it will be annoying for Foreman if Hubbard is in there,
Starting point is 00:46:32 for those of you that are starting Foreman, he should get the majority of the work. And I like the fact that he had two catches last week, so it's not going to be like he's a train wreck in the passing game. But Hubbard, when they're healthy, when everybody's healthy, I agree with you, Adam. I think Hubbard's going to be the better play.
Starting point is 00:46:47 We said that from the beginning, you know, when they traded McCaffrey that his role in the passing game should help him game scripts for the majority of the rest of the season should help him in that regard. And the fact that they're not just going to pigeonhole him as a third down back, you know, they're going to give him the opportunity to carry the ball as well. So for this week, Foreman should be a borderline number two,
Starting point is 00:47:03 running back. If Hubbard is definitely out, he's a slam dunk number two running back ahead of Henderson, ahead of Najee, ahead of Montgomery, ahead of Brian Robinson, you know, depending on however, you know, long you want to go, far you want to go. And I'd probably start him over to be honest. I start him over James Conner, you know, just if Conner does play. So he's, he's, you know, borderline top 20 guy. So hopefully he takes advantage of this. This should be a game that Carolina can win. I don't know if they will.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Atlanta, despite their defensive flaws, the run game has carried them. Marcus Mario hasn't made mistakes. And their system has worked. But this is going to be a competitive ballgame. And Foreman's going to be able to get the opportunity to be a 20-touch guy for game like this that's that's a pretty good spot to be in uh tyler algier number three running back like where is he compared to six
Starting point is 00:47:52 you're hoping for 50 or 60 yards and maybe a fall into the end zone james connor or tyler second time this season for james connor tyler al Conner. We don't even know if Conner's going to play, by the way, but... Yeah, it's only if Conner's going to play. How about PPR? Would you start Naeem Hines or Tyler Algier? I think Hines. Hines and PPR. Alright.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Sit Mariota. Sit London. Sit Pitt. Sit Tommy Tremble, even though Atlanta's bad against tight ends. He looked good on his deep target for a touchdown last week. That was his only target. Yeah. All right, that's that game. Okay, so let's go to the Giants at the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You know, the Giants are 6-1, and if you look at, there's a metric called DVOA from Football Outsiders. They count for a lot of different things to measure, say, a defense. How good are they? They. They, they count for a lot of different things to measure, say a defense, how good are they? They kind of, they account for the opponents, the situations, all these things. The giants are one of the worst teams in DVOA defensively. So football outsiders does not think they're a good defense. That said, they've, they've, I don't know, they're like ninth in yards per play.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It's points per game. I think they're top 10. They have seen the fourth fewest plays per game in football, and they are fifth in time of possession. Seattle is 29th. There's a huge storyline in this game. Can the Seahawks possess the ball enough? And they've been better at that the last two games.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Two straight wins over the Cardinals and the Chargers they've actually been possessing the ball quite a bit. So that's a good sign for the Seahawks. Anyway, Dave, let's talk about Gino Smith. You said that you thought it was a good matchup. I can tell you why it might be a bad matchup. So let's have that
Starting point is 00:49:39 discussion. Gino Smith. I think it's a better matchup for him. Yeah, this is the game of the week, yeah. Dave kind of stole my thunder when he called it the game of the week. Giants and the Seahawks, yeah. Sorry, Dave.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I've been planning to interrupt you all week long for this. Okay. Why is this a good matchup for Gino Smith? I'm just waiting for another song to come on. You're good. You're in the clear. We're good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Giants are ranked tied for ninth worst in pass rush pressure rate this year, despite being first in the league in blitz rate. They've blitzed the quarterback on minimum of 32% of dropbacks. It's a ton. Geno's managed blitzes fairly well this season. He's completing two-thirds of his throws against him. 90.1 QB rating. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:50:38 6.69 yards per attempt. That's not great. He's been better, naturally, when he's not being blitzed. So he'll get blitzed a lot. But really, Geno has been at his worst from what I've seen and what the stats say, just when he's under serious pressure in general. But what this is telling me and what the data says is, even when the Giants blitz a lot, they're not getting to the quarterback enough.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And I think that Geno can overcome their blitz and be usable this week. I have him ranked as a top 12 quarterback. I don't love that I've got him that high, but I think that that's just the nature of the quarterback position. Plus, you'll talk about how Daniel Jones will run a lot. Geno can run too. He might be able to get you anywhere from 20 to 40 yards on the ground. I think he can find two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:51:20 What I'm really worried about are the pass attempts and the yardage. I don't think he's got a shot at 275 yards,. I don't think he's got a shot at 275 yards, and I don't think he's got a shot at throwing more than like 32 passes. Yeah. See, the last thing you said there is what makes me the most concerned about Geno Smith on top of the fact that he's not playing, is that Pete Carroll has his dream right now. He's got a run game.
Starting point is 00:51:39 His defense is playing well. He doesn't have to have Geno in place. And so this is going to be Ken Walker. This is going to be Ken Walker. This is going to be Ken Walker and more Ken Walker. And so Geno is not going to have the opportunity, I think, to have the pass attempts that they need because this is going to be Walker versus Barkley and Barkley versus Walker.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And then the occasional sprinkling in of Daniel Jones running. And so I'd be very, very leery of playing Geno Smith this week, unless DK Metcalf has a miraculous recovery, which it does not sound like it's going to be the case. Okay, but then I mostly agree that it's going to be a lot of both running backs. How do you measure Daniel Jones as a better option just because he'll run more? Yeah, 100%. But that's it?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah, I think both guys are candidates for around 200 yards passing. I don't think we're going to get much more than that from either one of these two. Again, especially if Metcalf does not play. And so what you're seeing from Daniel Jones, which has been fantastic for him, is that he's limiting the mistakes. The turnover has not been a problem for him anymore. He's making the throws that he has to make. I think now that he has hopefully a healthy Wanda Robinson, which seems to be the case,
Starting point is 00:52:43 he has two guys that can help him in the passing game. You know, losing Bellinger sucks, but two guys in the passing game that can help him in Wanda Robinson and Darius Slayton. While they're not stars, they're making enough plays for him. So he's not going to be a 300-yard passer. He's not going to help your fantasy production with his arm. That's kind of, you know, this is the reverse.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Usually we like the rushing numbers to support the passing numbers. This is the passing numbers supporting the rushing numbers. So he's probably going to be in the neighborhood of 60 to 80 yards rushing and that's a lot to ask but that's kind of where he's been three of his last four games 67 or more rushing yards so the one game we didn't do it was when he had the sprained ankle going into the baltimore game so if you run to the same level finds the ability maybe gets the end zone with his legs gets you 200 yards passing not a top 10 guy but as you just said really this is a indication of where we are with the quarterbacks. No Mahomes, no Herbert this week. The guys who are banged up.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I think he's in that 18 to 20 point range. I'll take him over Geno Smith. Jamie's got Daniel Jones 12th, so he has Derek Carr, Jared Goff, and Dak Prescott ahead of him. Love Goff this week. Okay, we'll get to that game shortly. Dalton, Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Matthew
Starting point is 00:53:44 Stafford, Garoppolo, Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence daniel jones while we're talking quarterbacks uh nathaniel hackett just said russell wilson will start all right i was about to say that uh thank you jamie russell wilson is going to start he practiced in full today uh okay so also on this game uh you know just keep in mind the giants lost two starting offensive linemen last week seahawks pass rush has been kind of middle of the pack three straight weeks in pressure rate. They've been right around 15th, 16th.
Starting point is 00:54:11 So that's not good for Jones, but not good for Geno is what I was talking about. It reminds me of the Cardinals matchup a couple weeks ago. The Giants don't give up a lot of big plays through the air, and that's pretty much all the Seahawks do. Geno Smith and Josh Allen have been the best deep ball passers in football this year. The Giants have been pretty good in that regard.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Very good in that regard, actually, and limiting those big plays downfield. So there's that, and then there's the time of possession thing I mentioned, and the fact that the Giants are giving up the second most yards per carry to running backs, the second most yards per catch to running backs, too, which is weird. They have already given up four 100-yard rushing games to running backs, and none of those running backs have even had more than 15 carries. And Ken Walker's got two straight games with more than 20 carries. So Ken Walker should be awesome this week.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Start Barkley. Start Walker. We talked about the quarterback. Start Tyler Lockett. You like Marquise Goodwin if Metcalf's at or Wandale Robinson? And then Jamie, what do you think about Darius Slayton? Talk about the other wide receivers in this game. Wandale Robinson would be my favorite non-Tyler Lockett receiver in this game. Then I would go with Marquise Goodwin. Then I would go with Darius Slayton. I mean, Slayton's, you know, you've seen it. It's two of three games. He's been productive. Two games ago, it was the big play, you know, so there's opportunities now without Bellinger there. I think there's probably
Starting point is 00:55:27 a mindset, certainly in the wide receiver room, of, okay, now Tony's not coming back. We know what we're dealing with unless they make a trade, which you're hearing a lot of potential Jerry Judy to the Giants if the Broncos lose this game because Brian Dable was on the Alabama staff when they recruited him to Alabama, so there's a familiarity there. But that's a separate note. But in any event, I think you look at Slayton and you look at Wandale as six to eight target guys. I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Wandale's probably more than that. If last week was any indication with eight targets. But probably six to eight targets is the way to ballpark it. No Bellinger, no Gallaudet. So it's going to be some concentrated targets. So that's nice if you're looking at Darius Slayton this week. Can you name the team that allows the most yards after catch per reception to slot receivers?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yes, I can. Well, is it them? Now you know who it is. Well, I was going to say they've given up the ninth most yards out of the slot, fourth most yards per catch out of the slot, fourth most 20-plus yard completions out of the slot. That's Seattle. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So those are all really good Wondell Robinson stats. There's one more. He had that groin-ish injury. We don't really know what it was. He had all of his production in the first half. He may not have been healthy in the second half, but he had six for 50 on eight targets in the first half last week.
Starting point is 00:56:47 That was a great sign for Wanda. Would you start Wanda Robinson or Michael Pittman? Pittman. How about Wanda or Paris Campbell or what's his name? Alec Pierce.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Wanda over those guys. Wanda or Curtis Samuel at the Colts? I'll take Wandale. I'll take Wandale over Brandon Cooks, over Mooney, Allen Robinson, Michael Gallup.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Alright, I think that's it for this game then. And sit the tight ends. You guys don't have the DSTs ranked very high, so I guess we're sitting them. Arizona's at Minnesota. Minnesota is 12th in scoring defense, but they allow the third most yards per play. So we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And they are the worst. This is interesting. They're the worst red zone defense in the NFL. They've only allowed 15 red zone trips in six games, but 80% have ended in touchdowns. That's Minnesota's defense, and Arizona's had a real problem in the red zone, so we'll see. Alright.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I don't even know if I asked you the one question for each game for this one. You didn't. You skipped half the games. I did skip half the games. What the hell was that all about? You were too excited to talk about Falcons Why didn't you call me out on that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:06 You don't even read your private chat messages that I've sent you during the show. Wow. That's so bad. I am sorry about that folks. Okay. The question for this game was, are you feeling it?
Starting point is 00:58:16 Which is the question every week for the Vikings. Jamie, are you feeling it? Yes. Why? I mean, again, you look at what he was doing prior to the bi-week,
Starting point is 00:58:25 you know, seven or more targets in four straight games. And he's got a good track record against Cardinals. Not that he's played in very much, but three times in his career, he scored a touchdown all three times, including once last year. So,
Starting point is 00:58:34 you know, I think you just look at where his role is and the opportunity that he should continue to get in the passing game. I think her cousin's going to have a huge game this week. So like the setup for him coming off a bi-week, he's had a good track record coming off a bye as well. And so I think Thielen's in a good spot. Cardinals play heavy zone coverage.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Thielen has an 83% catch rate against zone coverage this year compared to 50% against man coverage. And the yards after catch per reception stat that I gave you for Wandale, that's just for slot receivers. Overall to receivers, Arizona's dead last at 5.9 yards after contact per catch. Yards after catch per reception. They keep everything in front of them, and the only quarterback who throws shorter on average than Kirk Cousins is Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So it seems like... Not anymore, he's not. Yeah, seems like a good matchup on paper for what the Vikings like to do. Okay, yeah. I mean, Thielen just hasn't... You know, Thielen is, for the season, he's not even a top 36 wide receiver. He's 37th per game in PPR,
Starting point is 00:59:36 and he's 45th in non-PPR. Okay. He's also been very matchup dependent. The teams he's done well against were 18th, 28th, and 24th against wide receivers. The teams he done well against were 18th, 28th, and 24th against wide receivers. The teams he's struggled against are 5th, 10th, and 4th. And, of course, the Cardinals are right in the middle at 14th.
Starting point is 00:59:51 So you're starting him. You're starting out. Okay, start Jefferson, start Cook, Cousins, and Kyler. Who do you like better, Cousins or Kyler? Cousins. Cousins. We'll knock out the easy stuff. Hopkins is a must-start guy and we'll talk about
Starting point is 01:00:08 irv smith we'll talk about rondell moore and we'll talk about the cardinals running backs let's start dave with the cardinals running backs expectations this week let's say if connor's in and if connor is out against the vikings who are 19th against opposing running backs he knows a must start if connor is out. He's going to be their primary running back. He impressed last week. He played way better than I thought he would. Part of it is he played against a tired Saints defense,
Starting point is 01:00:34 and this is going to be the opposite. This is going to be a rested Vikings defense. But I don't think it's necessarily a good run defense. So I think there's going to be opportunities for the Cardinals to run the ball no matter what. I think they want to continue to do that. They don't want to force Skylar to throw the ball 42 times a game. So you'll see whoever they have available,
Starting point is 01:00:52 getting opportunities. I'm nervous about Connor and what he'll be like coming back from this injury, because he wasn't necessarily explosive necessarily. He wasn't, he wasn't explosive at all before the injury. He could always score. That's always a good thing. He could catch a couple of passes, too. If they both play, I will give a slight lean to Connor, but I think they're both more of like
Starting point is 01:01:13 high end flex plays than anything else. OK, so we don't we would not like James Connor to play if he doesn't play. Of course, we'll have updated shows where we can rank, you know, Benjamin for you. Jamie, any interest in Rondell Moore? I don't know if he's going to play in the slot. I hope he does. He didn't last week, but he needs to. He's 61% rostered. Rondell Moore. I would not play him
Starting point is 01:01:36 this week if you can avoid it, but I would still roster him if you can, just to see what happens. If they do go back to him in that role, it was so successful for whoever was playing in that role prior to DeAndre Hopkins joining the team. Now, it could just be that Hopkins is their preferred option there, which would be great for him. But if you are still looking at what Rondell Moore and Greg Dortch did, the combination with Marquise Brown, it was, I believe, was for their first six games, it was 13 or more PPR points. So, you know, let's see what happens this week.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Again, last week was Hopkins first game back. Run game was successful. Defense was successful. Don't know if they're going to have that same formula against Minnesota. So if they go back to Kyler Murray being, you know, with the volume of pass attempts, you know, in the high 30s, low 40s, then I think there'll be an opportunity for Rondell Moore to still be the third best pass catcher on this team.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Because I don't think it's just going to be all DeAndre Hopkins and Zach Ertz and Rondell Moore go by the wayside. All right, guys. How do you feel about Irv Smith going up against the Cardinals who have allowed 60 yards or a touchdown to a tight end in five of seven games? Problem is, you know, four of those tight ends have been Kelsey Waller, Higby and Dallas Goddard. But Jawan Johnson also had a big game. Jamie, I'll give you the first word. Like who are some players that you're starting Irv Smith over? Kyle Pitts, Dalton Schultz, Taysom Hill in PPR, Greg Dolchitz. Hawkinson? No.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Dolchitz in non-PPR. Hawkinson? Hawkinson in non-PPR. Dave, how about you? Irv Smith? I'm nervous to start Smith because I'm doing it because of a stat and not because of who the player is and what his role is in the offense. So in PPR, he's 13th for me. I'm starting, uh, Hearst, Hawkinson, Dulcich, Evan Ingram ahead of him. I do have him one notch above Schultz. I'm not a Schultz fan this week. Got him ahead of pits in non PPR. It's a, it's,
Starting point is 01:03:26 it's kind of the same story, I guess he's 14th for me there. I'd start them over Schultz pits, Tanya, but behind Dulcich behind Taysom Hill behind Hayden Hurst. The thing, the thing about it is like, if you just looked at two of his metrics prior to their bi-week and you
Starting point is 01:03:42 were to say four catches and a touchdown from your tight end, you would take that probably 10 out of 10. Of course. It's the other number that's in there that you don't like where you had four catches for seven yards against the Dolphins. But this is, you know, you're probably looking at six targets, you know, maybe at most. I hope.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Probably four to five catches and a good opportunity to score based on how they'll use him against this team. That's what you're hoping for. I like that he's had four catches in each of his past two games, but he hasn't had six targets since week three. He is squarely a touchdown or bust tight end who's got a really good matchup.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Miami at Detroit, we've got three games left. Let's do this. Miami at Detroit, stat of the game, Raheem Mostert, 14 to 18 carries in four straight games. Every running back who's had 14 to 18 carries against the Lions this year has scored at least one rushing touchdown. That's four already that have done that.
Starting point is 01:04:36 So Mostert's going to be a guy we certainly like. And now going back to last year, a running back has had 94 rushing yards or a rushing touchdown against the Lions in 19 of 23 games. It is incredible. Yeah, I've got him ranked too low. Where do you have him
Starting point is 01:04:52 and where are you going to move him up to? He's outside of my top 15. I think I need to find a way to get him in the top 15. Okay, is that going to be ahead of, are you going to put Mostert ahead of Miles Sanders? Yeah, I think I want to because
Starting point is 01:05:06 this matchup is so good and this isn't just about starting a stat because that lion stat is amazing but most shirts look good he's played well yeah uh Jamie you have him one spot ahead of Aaron Jones yeah stick with that okay all right I'd be down with that too. Why do you like Jared Goff so much, Jamie? Dolphins secondary is a mess. And I think this is a spot for Goff to play well. You've seen him at home. His worst home game so far this season was week one when he had 18 fantasy points against the Eagles.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And so is this closer to the Eagles defense or is this closer to the two other teams that he played? Seattle was one. I forget who the other one was. Washington. That's closer to those type of defenses. And in those two games, he went for 41 and 34 fantasy points. So, you know, the Dolphins, if they are able to get to him,
Starting point is 01:06:00 which is clearly the issue, are they going to protect Jared Goff because the Dolphins are going to blitz him a lot? That'll be the key. but he gets Swift back. St. Brown's expected to play. Hawkinson's expected to play. Reynolds is expected to play. The only guy who's missing of the guys that have been there for him when he's had those big games is DJ Chark, but I don't know how much of a loss that is.
Starting point is 01:06:17 So in this game, I think it's going to be one of the more high scoring games. I told you this should have been the game of the week for you because I do think this is going to be a game where we see Tua show up and have a big performance and Goff counter that. So we're going to get a lot of offense in these two games. And I think it's fair what you said about comparing the defenses that Goff's played at home, specifically with the commanders.
Starting point is 01:06:37 You think about Washington's defense. They've got a really good defensive line. And their secondary is kind of a mess. And the Dolphins absolutely have a mess in their secondary.'s whether or not golf can beat the blitz because i'm i am certain the dolphins are going to try and get after him every single snap when the patriots did it jared golf looked terrible if he can beat the blitz i think saint brown would be a huge part of that hopefully you've got you know what to do with saint brown he's He's a must-start guy, but when he played Washington, nine catches, 116 yards, and two touchdowns. That's a DFS guy right there. And he's not seeing Xavier Howard.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I'd be surprised. No, not in the slot, right? No. And Dave, but you have golf 23rd. That's another one that I think I need to really reevaluate. I don't think I'm going to move him. Maybe I would move him into my top That's another one that I think I need to really reevaluate. I don't think I'm going to move them. Maybe I would move them into my top 12 because I'm like that just, that shows you how shaky the quarterback position is, is that anybody that you think has a shot to get 25 fantasy points, boom, they're a top 12 quarterback this week.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Okay. When I first took a look at golf this week, my initial thought was the Dolphins pass rush is going to be all over him and he's going to stink. There are ways that they can counteract that. Having Swift back is a huge plus. I deserve to give Goff another look. Swift or Mostert?
Starting point is 01:07:58 I struggle with that one. When we ranked Swift yesterday, that's the first place that I went and I was like, I can't see a situation where if I have DeAndre Swift and Raheem Mostert on my teams, that I'm sitting DeAndre Swift for Raheem Mostert. That's always the way I like to look at it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mostert's better.
Starting point is 01:08:14 He's going to get more work. Would you co-sign Mostert in non-PPR and Swift in full PPR? No, because I think Swift will score. It's not like Swift was making a ton of plays in the passing game. He's making a lot of plays with his big playability. And so, Mostert, last week, four catches, 30 yards. He scored through the air. That's not something you can count on regularly from him.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And so, who has the more likely chance to get four for 30? It wouldn't surprise me with Mostert. Adam, have the Dolphins allowed 94 yards or a touchdown to a running back in each of their last 18 games or whatever? They have a pretty damn good run defense, except, dalvin cook had that that long run and um who else before that someone had a breeze hall had a good game but they did a good job against naji last week but i don't know if that's saying anything yeah they i say they're kind of inconsistent but you know that deandre swift deandre swift has just been a machine.
Starting point is 01:09:05 When he's been on the field, he's been so explosive. He's been one of the best running backs. All right, so Amandro St. Brown's a must-start. Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell are must-starts. Yeah, I think TJ Hawkinson we should talk about. But any sleeper? Like Josh Reynolds? Josh Reynolds a sleeper or starter set?
Starting point is 01:09:23 I just think that this knee injury has been a problem for him. You know, last week was very frustrating with St. Brown leaving the game early and granted the Cowboys defense is one of the best in football. Their secondaries is one of the best. And you talk about golf struggling with pressure. That was just a nightmare to watch that unfold.
Starting point is 01:09:38 So maybe there's a chance for Reynolds to bounce back this week. But I think with St. Brown there and Hawkinson there and Swift there, you know, most of his better games have come with somebody missing. Most of it's been Swift. We'll see what that means for Reynolds. If you've been using
Starting point is 01:09:51 him as a third receiver in a three-receiver league and they don't have anybody better, go with it, but I'm kind of done with Reynolds until I see something from him. Hawkinson, Dave, it wasn't so bad last week. for catches for 48 yards, but other than that one game,
Starting point is 01:10:08 it's been pretty brutal. I mean, I'll take four catches, 48 yards from a streaming tight end, but from Hawkinson, I would, I would like a little bit more. He's been garbage.
Starting point is 01:10:19 The dolphins are giving up the seventh most fantasy points to tight ends. They're not great in this regard. Most of that though, is Andrews. What he did. Yeah, Friar Muth also had a good game, but Friar Muth, half of Friar Muth's yards came on the final possession of that game last week. So yeah, it has largely been Mark Andrews. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:10:38 I don't really want to start TJ Hawkinson. I don't know that people have a choice. I'm starting Dalton Schultz over him. I know you guys hate Dalton Schultz, but I'm starting Schultz. I have the two of them in one league, and I'm starting Schultz over Hawkinson. And if Hawkinson doesn't have a bad game, I'm dropping him. I have Hawkinson in one league, and I'm starting Taysom all over him. Just because I feel like if both hit to where they have been the majority of the season, Taysom will be better.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Here's the bad. If you take away that huge game that he had against Seattle, Hawkinson's averaging 6.2 full PPR points per game, which might make you barf. He's not 100%. Most fantasy points allowed to tight ends. Their league worst in catch rate allowed to tight ends. So I think there's an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:11:19 If I had to measure up Hawkinson and Schultz, I would say Hawkinson's healthier, and he's got more explosiveness to him. I think he is. Did you watch Schultz play? He cannot move very well. They're both dealing with injuries now, so I don't know if you could say one's healthier than the other. I'm starting the healthier tight end who had a 20% target share last week. I think that he's got a little bit better of a chance to get more yards and a little bit of a better chance to score. The thing that would help Hawkinsinson right now is that brandon jones is out safety for the
Starting point is 01:11:48 dolphins yes everyone's out yeah everybody's on that secondary except for howard if their game plan is to have golf get rid of the ball quickly hockinson will be a good target for him they'll be second behind what do they put howard on hockinson that would be an interesting concept but i don't know that they need to, but all right. Uh, they've done anything like that this year. I don't know,
Starting point is 01:12:09 but this team doesn't have an outside receiver. They didn't know they did. Or if they did, it didn't work. This team doesn't have an outside receiver, you know, that they, they,
Starting point is 01:12:17 they need to stick Howard on. All right, let's sit for this game. Dolphins DST is a low end starting option. Um, and the, the lions have been absolutely dreadful last two weeks.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Great matchup for DST's Patriots and Cowboys had huge games. Two games left. Let's do them in five minutes. Chicago at Dallas. Stat of the game number one, a running back has scored... Not at all in Cowboys at all. Well, a running back has scored 17 or more PPR fantasy points in five of the last six games against the Bears.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Tony Pollard's going to do that. Tony Pollard's never had more than 14 carries. He's going to do that. Tony Pollard is amazing. He's had 12 games, 10 games with 12 or more carries. His average is like six yards per carry in seven of those 10 games. Something crazy like that. He's an amazing start, Tony Pollard. He's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:12:56 He's the start of the week. Stat of the game number two. You sounded like the Micro Machines guy. Yeah, sold separately. All right, stat of the game number two. The Bears' past defense is not bad. Fourth fewest fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. They haven't been so bad against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:13:11 You can't sit lamb, but Jamie, you said start all Cowboys. I don't know that are you starting Dak Prescott with confidence? I'm kidding. Am I starting Prescott with confidence? No, I feel like I want to start Derek Goff over Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Just based on what the upside would be. Am I starting Prescott with confidence? No, I feel like I want to start Derek Goff over Dak Prescott. Wow. Just based on what the upside would be. The only way that you should start Dak Prescott this week is if you feel like, which is a strong feel, that the Cowboys need to get their passing game going for what lies ahead because they're not going to win a Super Bowl playing like this. We just don't see teams do that. They have good regular seasons like this. Against the postseason, you're going gonna have to make some plays through there so they need to get their
Starting point is 01:13:48 passing game going at some point and now the bears just lost robert quinn the secondary wall has played very very well i think that cd lamb and some combination of gallup schultz noah brown if he plays uh pollard out of the backfield whatever else they want to throw at them can help that prescott get some decent numbers, but their formula is working right now. And so why go away from it? Whether it was Dak last week or Cooper rush the five games before that, they don't need to have to throw the ball,
Starting point is 01:14:15 you know? So I don't think Dak is going for 303 in this game. That would be very surprising. Could he go for 203? Cause they get some red zone touches touchdowns for him. Sure. But I don't know if you can bank on that based on what we've seen from this team i think i think it's even simpler than
Starting point is 01:14:30 that not having zeke is going to make them either lean heavily on tony pollard which is something that they've been kind of hesitant to do or just let dac let dac play and get his feet further wet. And I think I'd go with the latter on that one. I think we'll see Dak Prescott throw it around a little bit more. For what you said, James, they need to get him going. So I like Dak quite a bit this week. I think he can come through for a solid 250-2, if not 3. Okay, you like Dak.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Are you going to keep Justin Fields where you have him? I think 13th. I'm at 13. Yeah, I really like what I've seen from Fields the last few weeks. And I'm pretty sure the Bears are going to trail in this game. You want to talk about a quarterback that's going to run? Jones will get some numbers for sure, but you know Justin Fields is going to keep moving around.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I'm actually encouraged. I know it's a really tough matchup. I get it completely. But I think Justin Fields has a shot to get you 18 fantasy points. Would you guys rather start Darnell Mooney or a Bears running back? Bears running back.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Montgomery, Mooney, Herbert. David Montgomery. David Montgomery. David Montgomery or how about Najee Harris Montgomery Montgomery
Starting point is 01:15:52 David Montgomery or Michael Carter Montgomery Montgomery but close in PPR Tyler Boyd Boyd I'd go Boyd DJ Moore
Starting point is 01:16:07 Moore David Montgomery or Brandon Cooks Montgomery This is the Joe Boo week for Brandon Cooks I don't know if you mentioned that I did mention that per your request
Starting point is 01:16:22 Mooney is a low end, a low-end starter. The Cowboys are just so good, and they are the best so far. Low-end starter? He's a bench guy. Well, Dave has him like 37th. So in a three-receiver league, he's a low-end option. Look, I've got him behind Donovan Peoples-Jones
Starting point is 01:16:44 and Wanda Robinson. I don't know why I even said that. Look, I've got him behind Donovan Peoples-Jones and Wanda Robinson. I don't know why I even said that. No, he's behind him. I like DPJ better than Mooney. Yeah, the Cowboys are the best in football eliminating the big pass play, so that's not good for Mooney. He's just not getting targets.
Starting point is 01:16:56 That's the problem. The whole appeal to Darnell Mooney this year was the targets. All right, and we already talked about Dalton Schultz. He's outside the top 12 it's just the injuries and you know and that basically tennessee and houston our last game updated stat of the game let's go back to 2021 now the texans have allowed 20 or more ppr fantasy points to eight running backs in their last 12 games as updated with josh jacobs last week so you've got a pretty decent
Starting point is 01:17:22 chance of 20 or more pPR fantasy points from Derek Henry. You always do, but you certainly do this week. How about the Titans allowing the third most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers, the most completions of 20 plus air yards. My only concern, like, okay,
Starting point is 01:17:37 this game is so easy. It's just start the running backs. And then Brandon cooks is we're not interested in Robert Woods, right? No. So not unless you need a bi-week replacement. Brandon Cooks is the guy to talk about here. And the only thing I don't love is that Brandon Cooks,
Starting point is 01:17:52 he has the lowest ADOT of his career. And Tennessee is a team that's bad against the deep ball. And Davis Mills doesn't do that. So, like, is he... Yeah, go ahead. Does he have the lowest catch rate of his career, too? I'm not sure. Well, also, I don't know that it's the lowest eight out of his career
Starting point is 01:18:10 because it only goes back five years on Pro Football Reference. I could look on True Media, but it's very... It's the lowest in the last four years. It's very low. 8.2 is very low for Brandon Cooks as an average depth of target, 8.2 yards. Anyway, I'm just bringing that up because that's what could stop him. This is a great matchup. He should get a lot of targets with Nico Collins unlikely to play.
Starting point is 01:18:30 But, Dave, you can tell me what you think about Brandon Cooks. He's got the lowest catch rate over his last three years. It's not a career-low catch rate. It's 59.6%. He's also not getting a slew of targets anymore. He was earlier this season. It's been a really bad scene for him. And I think defenses know that he's the guy to take away when the Texans put the ball in
Starting point is 01:18:49 the air. I don't think Davis Mills has particularly played great all year, but he did play pretty well last week. And I kind of want to give Mills the benefit of the doubt, given the matchup, but I've had cooks on a couple of my teams this year. Everybody knows I traded for him in one league. I'm, I'm nervous to start him, man. I know that he's got this great matchup. He should come through. This should be a six-catch, 95-yard, one-touchdown game for Brandon
Starting point is 01:19:14 Cooks. And if it's not, I'm done with him. But he's been so ineffective compared to previous years. And that's why I'm nervous. Okay. Jamie, are you nervous about Brandon Cooks, or is he an easy start for you? that's why I'm nervous. Okay. Jamie, are you nervous about Brandon Cooks, or is he an easy start for you?
Starting point is 01:19:29 He's a start for me. Not an easy start, but he's a start for me. I mean, you know, Dave laid it out. I just think it would be a little bit more positive without Nico Collins on the field and the chance that they're most likely chasing points this week. So this will be the Brandon Cooks game you're waiting for for the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Happily starting him over Darnell Mooney, starting him over down in People's Jones. It's when I get to Jerry Judy, George Pickens, Wandale. That's when I get a little nervous about cooks. Yeah, I start him over all those guys. And last thing, Robert Woods, 77% rostered as of yesterday. He's been pretty bad. One game with more than 39 yards. But this is a team that's given up 95 or more yards
Starting point is 01:20:10 to a wide receiver in five of six games. And they've all been outside wide receivers. And that's typically where Robert Woods plays. He's mostly on the outside. But they've been Pittman, Sutton, Mike Williams, Devontae Adams, and there's Marvin Jones in there. So I don't know. DFS dart throw or I don't know. DFS dart throw or
Starting point is 01:20:25 I don't know. Well, you have the quarterback situation to play here because Ryan Daniels is the limited. You know, so if it's Malik Willis, it's a wild card because who knows how things will go there. But my guess would be is you're getting the Marcus Mariota treatment. You're probably getting 14, 15 pass attempts if it's
Starting point is 01:20:41 Malik. You might get that with Daniel anyway. So under 20 pass attempts would probably be the expectation in might get that with Daniel anyway. Under 20 pass attempts would probably be the expectation in this game unless the Texans somehow surprise the Titans and are playing with a lead. It's hard to trust anybody aside from Derek Henry. Take a look at the Titans DST. They're available in about 40%
Starting point is 01:20:57 of leagues. They've had three good games in a row and every DST that's faced Houston has done well this year. That's it for today's show. We will talk to you on Saturday with the mailbag. It's actually going to be recorded Friday afternoon, as you know. Oh, it's a special guest today. We have Will Brinson coming on to give a little Fantasy Cops. We're giving him a five-minute limit.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Fantasy Cops with Will Brinson and, of course, all your emails, your Apple Podcast questions. Thanks to Dave. Thanks to Jamie. Zach Brook, our producer today. I'm Adam. And good luck in week eight. See ya.

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