Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC), DAL-PHI Recap, Christian McCaffrey Injury and More (09/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 5, 2025A.J. Brown what the heck!? We kick it off with a recap of Cowboys-Eagles and whether or not we're concerned about the Eagles passing game or George Pickens. And what should we do with Javonte Williams...? Ride it out or sell high? ... News and notes (11:10) including our thoughts on trading Christian McCaffrey. Then we have One Question for Each Game (20:30)! Start or Sit Emeka Egbuka? Jared Goff? Jauan Jennings? DJ Moore? Chris Olave? Nick Chubb? ... Start or Sit for Bucs-Falcons (30:50), Lions-Packers (35:25), 49ers-Seahawks (47:30), Vikings-Bears (54:05), Giants-Commanders (1:03:35), Texans-Rams (1:09:00) and Cardinals-Saints (1:12:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Happy Friday, folks.
Hope you enjoy the game last night.
The 2025 fantasy season starts with a Bonanza and then a weather delay and then a Costanza.
And if you are not familiar with the FFT vocabulary, Bonanza back in the day is what I used to call the game that was going to have a lot.
lot of fantasy points.
It was going to be great, and it would always be terrible, so we would call it a
Costanza.
But welcome, folks, and yeah, interesting game last night, and of course, Christian
McCaffrey stole the show, stole the headlines with his calf injury.
So we'll talk about that, and we've got seven NFC home games to preview.
Tampa Bay, Atlanta, Detroit Green Bay, San Francisco, Seattle, Minnesota, Chicago,
Giants, Commanders, Houston at the Rams, and Arizona at New Orleans.
Well, what did you think, Dave?
We had no punts before the weather delay.
We had no points after the weather delay, and the Eagles win 2420.
And a lot of penalties and a little bit of spit.
I thought that it was the game was interesting.
It felt like two different games, though, and that when the teams came out of the weather
delay, just defense dominated and nothing that really either offense could get going.
Really felt like just overall Philadelphia's run game was as expected.
CD Lamb's usage was as expected.
Javante Williams' usage was a little bit higher than I thought it would be.
And maybe we had a clue about that when Jane Blue was made inactive.
But other than that, I thought that there were a bunch of surprises and unfortunately a lot of
disappointing surprises.
So what would be one of the disappointing surprises that guy who the total targets for
Devante Smith and A.J. Brown would be the biggest surprise.
rise, it's a turd.
Yeah.
It's the...
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So listen,
so,
Dak Prescott
scores 7.8
fantasy points.
George Pickens
gets three catches
for 30 yards
on four targets
on 34 pass
attempts.
Devante Smith
and A.J.
Brown were horrible.
Brown had one target.
Brown has never
had one target
in a game
in his entire
career except for one
game.
It was a week 18 game
where he played
12,
snaps and left with an injury.
So this was, I think we could say, the worst game of his career, or right up there.
And I have more to say about, you know, the offense, but are you guys worried about any of the
players who struggled last night?
No.
No.
That played great.
He just didn't get touchdowns.
I'm glad you said that.
I thought he was terrific, man.
Yeah, he looked in the pocket.
Ferguson dropped a touchdown.
Lamb dropped a deep ball.
Could have been a good day for Jack.
Well, Lamb dropped four passes.
I mean, that was a rough night for him.
One was a tough one, but you're right.
Even three was a bad day.
He did try to kill his tight ends a couple times, though,
Dak was some throws in the scene.
I do think you should be making a bunch of trade offers after Sunday for A.J. Brown
because there's going to be somebody on your team that goes nuts and maybe Jvante Williams.
And, you know, that fantasy manager may not be in great shape.
I mentioned this on one of the shows that,
our office league somebody went all in on DAC, Ferguson, and Pickens with a Cowboys
Stack and a Redraft League, they're not happy today. And then I saw in another league,
somebody actually did it with DAC, Ferguson, and Lamb, and obviously somewhat happy, but not
as great. So, you know, this is the problem when you stack players in passing games when they
don't live up to expectations.
I do think the way that Jalen Hertz looked is going to be interesting to see how this
continues, you know, if he's going to not, if he's going to throw as much potentially as he
could, but not feature his guys.
He ended up taking a bunch of checkdowns to his tight end.
Dallas played a lot of too high.
And that's what Matt Eberfluse kind of does.
Well, Dallas got it always beats up the Cowboys.
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
But like this is one of the ways that you beat cover two is you throw the middle of the field or short area throws to the tight end.
And he did great.
Adam, we were watching some snaps of A.J. Brown before the show.
And there were a couple of snaps where he just, he didn't look right to me.
As I'm watching more as we go along here.
And he's looking better as the game goes on.
So I don't think it's an injury thing.
Definitely was double teamed a bunch.
I agree with Jamie.
If someone's goofy enough to be so worried about A.J. Brown after this game, do yourself a favor and trade for him on the low, low.
Can you do me a favor? I wanted to look this up. Were they in three receiver sets more than they usually were, the Eagles? And this is what point I would make about Jalen Hurd. So I think I was expecting them to be a little bit more balanced this year and not run the ball as much. And then you see they had the ball for 34 minutes and 52 seconds and only through 23 passes. And also, Dave, maybe I meant to ask you this before the show.
So Jalen Hertz's true dropback percentage on true media, I don't know what that is, but it was 78.8% last night.
Last year, his true dropback percentage was 67%.
He only eclipsed 79% twice last year.
So this was a game where he dropped back a lot.
He didn't throw a lot because he ran so much.
He had 14 carries in this game.
But to me, watching the game, it really felt like they were trying to be much more balanced than they were.
You don't see it in the numbers.
You don't see it in the past attempts
because he just kept running the ball.
But, you know, they didn't run the ball
as much with Barclay as they could have
considering they had the ball for 35 minutes.
And, you know, but I don't know,
that was my impression.
He dropped back to pass a little bit more,
kind of made me more encouraged
for the offense as a whole.
It just didn't work that way.
The three receiver answer is 30 of 62 snaps.
Okay.
I don't know what they were last year,
but just felt like Dotson was on the field
more than I remember a third receiver being on the field for them.
But, all right, last thing here is Javante Williams.
Javante Williams, 6% started, 86% rostered.
Miles Sanders is 8% rostered.
He had the biggest play of the game, unfortunately,
which was a fumble at the 10-yard line.
But Javante, 15 carries.
He did.
He had a 49-yard run.
Javante Williams, 15 carries, 54 yards, 2 touchdowns,
also 2 catches, 2 short-yardage touchdowns.
Are you, look, he's got the job.
And they were playing without Jalen Carter.
If you missed it, Jalen Carter, spit on Dak Prescott as their best defensive player of the Eagles.
So that made things easier for the Cowboys.
They got the Giants next week.
They got the Bears after that.
Those were two really bad run defenses last year.
So here you go, Adam.
I did a poll on X last night since you love these.
Devante Williams is a must start running back next week.
2,300 votes, 47%.
Yes, 43% no, 10% C results.
Yeah, put me in the no category.
I would say so.
I mean, the two things that I'm going to be curious to see is, one, does Jaden Blue now replace Miles Sanders after the fumble?
Do they give him a chance to be elevated?
You know, listen, he was coming back from an ankle injury after dealing with a hill injury, and he's a rookie.
But clearly they felt like he wasn't ready to be up on game day.
Does that change?
And if that does change, does that impact maybe what Jambi did?
I thought Javadde look great.
I mean, you know, there are a couple runs there that, you know,
looking like old Javante.
I was surprised they got away from him, to be honestly,
as the game unfolded,
especially since it wasn't out of reach
from a score standpoint.
You got to be, I mean, look,
you're thrilled if you drafted him at this point.
Absolutely.
I just wouldn't go crazy with calling him a must start running back.
Oh, man, it's so frustrating.
I drafted actually quite a bit of Javante Williams.
I only started him in one league as a super deep dynasty league against Heath,
which was great.
And Heath made me an interesting trade offer last night.
He offered me Brock Bowers for Christian McCaffrey and Sam LaPorta.
It's kind of insulting that he threw LaPorta in there.
Obviously, I'm turning that down.
But we'll talk about McCaffrey in a minute.
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dac prescott don't panic he looked a lot better than his numbers a j brown don't
panic, you know, Devante Smith.
We're going to get these kinds of games. It's going to happen.
All right, news and notes. So Christian McCaffrey was limited with a calf issue.
What's your reaction, Dave?
I hope they just gave him a rest day, sort of, and made him limited and maybe throwing shade
at us through the injury report. I hope it's not, uh-oh, he came up limping in practice,
and he's not going to practice on Friday, and here we go again.
And no one knows.
There isn't any further report on it.
No other suggestions about whether or not he'd miss this week's game or anything like that.
Just got to see what the report is on Friday.
Okay.
I definitely think people are making trade offers right now.
To buy low on McCaffrey.
Would you be trying to get McCaffrey or get rid of McCaffrey?
I think if Heath had offered you Brock Bowers and.
Sorry, I think like a fair.
Would you, Javate?
No.
Okay.
It was Bowers and like, he's out on Camara.
Let's say he had drafted Camarrow.
Like Bowers and Camara for McCaffrey and La Porta.
Would you've done it?
In this league, he has Ken Walker.
So if he had gone Bowers and Walker for McCaffrey and Leporta,
I would have thought pretty hard about that.
I probably don't, I can't see how you can trade for McCaffrey at a like,
early round one value
until you know more about
the injury. And let's be
clear here, Brian Robinson, Jr.
should already have been rostered, but he's the guy
that if he's available in your league and he was
available in one of my leagues yesterday, so it's not
impossible. You have to go get Brian Robinson
Jr., right? So just for
context, who knows when this
happened, and it could have just been something that
cramp or something, but this is
the story from ESPN. McAfee was on
the field and doing his usual warm-up in individual
drills during the roughly 20-minute
minutes open to reporters at start of practice.
But McCaffrey was not in his locker room after it was over
and did not do his usual Thursday media session.
Yeah, we have no idea.
That's ominous.
Okay, but you have to get Brian Robinson.
Do you think it makes sense to also get Garendo
or like another running back on the Niners?
In a deeper league, it's not a bad idea just to see what happens.
I mean, listen, Robinson's only been with the team for a few weeks.
So they may feel a little bit more comfortable going
with a committee to open the game if he does not play against the Seahawks.
And so Garendo goes out and has a big day and Robinson struggles,
then it's probably Garendo's job rest of the way,
despite what they said after acquiring Robinson.
But at this point, look, he may just be like, you know,
yesterday was bothering me.
Maybe today's a problem, and they sent him for week one.
But last year it was at this time, if we had a playoff game,
McCaffrey would be out there.
And then it was seven weeks without him dealing with this Achilles injury.
You'll see Garendo as the most added player if McCaffrey doesn't practice on Friday, ruled out on Friday, maybe even if he's limited on Friday and questionable for the game on Sunday.
All right.
So that's where we start with the news and notes.
We said that Najee Harris was starting for the Chargers.
He's not.
Amari and Hampton's going to start.
Devon A. Chan was limited again.
Roshan, so the Bears had their first practice of the week because they play Monday.
Roshan Johnson mispractice
Kyle Monongai was limited.
Christian Kirk is going to miss at least one game
with a hamstring injury.
Who else is there?
Who should we be adding, if anyone, for the Texans?
Well, Jayne Higgins, if he's available,
and then Jalen Noel is somebody that,
in a deeper league I would take a look at
because he's going to take Kirk's spot.
And so will he be able to, you know,
take advantage of it and maybe run away with the position?
I doubt that they would all of a sudden just say
you got Wally Pipped and, you know,
Christian Kirk can all of a sudden be the fourth receiver when he's healthy.
But there's an opportunity here for both of the rookies to step up and have a big performance.
But ideally, this is feed Nico Collins as much as he possibly can get because while you're
picking up Higgins and you're picking up, Noel, Higgins was more rostered than Noel was.
This is clearly you want to just see a lot of the guy you're starting, which is Nico Collins.
I don't think this changes Higgins' role because Higgins is more of an outside receiver anyway.
Noel is the one, Jamie's right.
Jalenol is the one that you want to get pick up as the potential replacement in the slot for Kirk.
But let's not forget about Dalton Schultz, who's been a reliable short area guy for C.J. Stroud for a long time.
I think that he could actually come in handy in this matchup against the Rams.
Rams do play a lot of zone.
So I might actually veer towards Schultz first if it's redraft.
I'd love to stash probably Higgins ahead of Noel since we don't know when Kirk is
to be back.
And Higgins has a chance to be a decent contributor for Houston, regardless of Kirk status.
I bet you were breathing a sigh of relief yesterday when Keon Coleman got in a limited practice, Dave.
Oh, dude, there was video footage of him before practice.
That's the game of the week, yeah.
All right.
A little Sunday night showdown.
It's the Ravens and the Bills, yeah.
And it's the game of the week.
Hey.
Must be football season.
That was a good one.
And I'm glad you picked that game instead of Jaguars, Panthers.
I would have shredded you if you had done that.
That is absolutely the game of the week.
And yeah, like seeing him run around and look not limited at all is a very good sign.
I hope that's what we see from McCaffrey on Friday.
All right.
I'm going to fire through the rest of the news and notes.
Tyreek Hill was limited.
We are expecting him to play.
Amari Cooper is retiring.
We are not expecting him to play.
Jaden Reed and Don Tavian Wicks were limited.
So this is a big game against Detroit.
which wide receivers are you expecting to be out for Green Bay?
Are we expecting everyone but Watson?
I mean, they're clearly trending in the right direction.
Reed still makes me very nervous with the Jones fracture in his foot,
if that's actually the thing.
I don't know if it's actually been confirmed.
But the only one I would be starting right now
in the majority of leagues would be golden.
I think Romeo Dobbs is worth a stash if you're, you know,
like you want to pivot from Christian,
to a guy that might be available in a lot of leagues.
Like Romeo Dobbs is going to be on the field a lot for the Packers,
no matter who's healthy.
So not a big ceiling, but a very safe floor.
And, you know, two years ago,
tied for the lead and touchdown receptions for them.
All right.
And I'm going to tell you later why it looks on paper based on last year,
like a great matchup for Matthew Golden.
We'll see if that carries over this year for Detroit and in wide receivers against Detroit.
Darnell Mooney is a game time decision.
Seattle rookie wide receiver Torrey Horton practice in full.
A tight end.
was limited. Isaiah likely is not going to play this week, and Darren Waller keeps
missing practice, so it doesn't look good for Darren Waller this week. The offensive line,
Andrew Thomas, missed practice for the Giants. This was, it seemed like a planned day of rest,
but we don't know if he will play at Washington. The Seahaws gave Abraham Lucas a contract
extension. Minnesota left tackle Christian Darasaw missed practice, but he's recovering
from a torn ACL. You feel like Darisaw is going to play this week? Is that the buzz?
I thought that was a sentiment all along, but still something got to keep in line.
Some offensive line injuries that already not a good unit.
Will Campbell, rookie left tackle for the Patriots.
He has an ankle issue.
And Carolina, two of their starting offensive linemen, actually three of their starting
linemen, I think, mispractice.
Maybe one was limited.
Their left tackle had an appendectomy.
Yeah.
So if he doesn't play, that's big trouble for Carolina.
And then it doesn't look like Christian Gonzalez is going to play.
Micah Parsons is expected to play.
I mentioned yesterday that both of Buffalo's starting cornerbacks for missing practice,
well, one of them returned Christian Benford, their good one.
He practiced in full, their better one, I should say.
Chase Young might be out for the Saints.
Harrison Smith missed practice, safety for the Vikings.
They gave up the fewest, no, they gave up the most fantasy points to wide receivers last year.
Vita Vaya, a very good run defense for Tampa Bay, but Viavea, he missed practice now twice in a row with a foot issue.
And that's going to do it for news and notes.
All right, we're going to take a break.
We got one question for each game when we come back on fantasy football today.
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One question for seven games.
Tampa Bay at Atlanta.
Atlanta allowed the third-most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers.
Jamie Start or sit a Mecca-A-A-Buka this week.
He's a definite starter in three-receiver leagues.
If you need him as a starter in two receiver leagues,
I would be perfectly fine with it.
He's just outside the top 24 for me.
And I think in two receiver leagues and a flex,
he's going to be one of your high-end flex options.
So I would love to start him this week if you can.
Okay, Detroit at Green Bay.
Are we really sitting Jared Gough, Dave Richard?
I think it's not the worst idea in the world to sit, Jared Gough.
It depends on who else you have.
I think there's just more upside for Drake May against Las Vegas,
although the thought of a backup left tackle against Max Crosby,
it's already bad enough that it's a rookie left tackle against Max Crosby.
That's not so good.
But other quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence, Tua against Indy,
Brock Purdy, I think there's just a little bit more upside.
There's going to be plenty of weeks where we're going to trust Jared Gough.
I just feel like this first game, new play caller,
on the road against Green Bay with Michael Parsons.
And we've known for years that the kryptonite for Jared Gough is passing.
rush pressure. When he's under pressure, he's not the same guy. Makes me a little bit nervous.
Yeah, I'm sure we're going to get to this step. But the last three years at Green Bay for Jared
golf, 9.5 fantasy points. That was a week 18 game at Green Bay. But 2023, 13.4,
2024, 11.6 fantasy points at Green Bay, only through 22 passes.
I don't care about the at Green Bay part as much as I care about just the situation.
now.
And this Green Bay pass rush is going to be right up there as one of the best in the league
with Parsons on the field.
Obviously,
I agree with that.
I think if any wide receiver or whatever,
you know,
fantasy relevant player missed all of training camp,
had a back issue,
and he has a legitimate back issue,
got traded to a new team.
We probably would not think he's just going to show up and be great in week one.
Well,
there's a difference though.
You're starting a player in your fantasy lineup that's coming off.
an injury you're talking about he's going to have a handful of plays you know call 20 plays i was
going to say yeah you know if that's the number like they're going to be on almost obvious pass
down situations or fourth quarter plays where they need somebody to go out and try and make a play like
they're going to be smart about it so that's that's that's not the best comparison i would use is is
you know a guy coming back that you're trying to put in your fantasy lineup versus a guy that's
going to be limited that you are just you know could be a game record
I'm just, well, okay, I guess I'm just saying I don't expect the best version of Micah Parsons.
Oh, I totally agree, but it's, this would be a little bit of a struggle for golf if Parsons wasn't added to the mix.
You know, now you're just, you're putting that on top of it, you know, so stadium where he hasn't played well, they've mentioned that, you know, new play caller, two new offensive linemen, you know, so it's, it's a lot of things that play here for Derek golf that if this was like, okay, Patcham Holmes, he's going in with a new offensive line.
down one of his best weapons,
facing a very good defense.
I'm not worried about Patrick Mahomes
the same level and worry about Jared Gough
because of where those guys
were drafted in my expectation for him.
And golf was better than Mahomes last year.
But the expectations going into the season.
I drafted Mahomes as the top six quarterback.
Golf was in the mix
somewhere between 10 and 15.
And that's where he is this week.
You guys have Jared Gough 15th.
All right.
Next up, San Francisco at Seattle.
What are your thoughts, Jamie,
on the San Francisco wide receiver?
I'm starting Ricky Piersall in three receiver leagues without question.
Very similar to a Bucca.
Two receiver leagues in a flex.
He's probably in my lineup because I don't think I'm going to have much better flex options.
Joanne Jennings is the perfect example of what you just brought up.
He's somebody that I would like to take a wait and see approach.
Hopefully he's going to be out there playing his normal allotment of snaps based on the receiver
injuries and suspension for Marcus Robinson.
They probably need Jennings to play his normal allotment of snaps plus his player incentive contract.
He wants to be out there, I'm sure, as much as possible.
But I'd like to take a wait and see your approach with him.
Hopefully comes out and has a big game.
But for this week, really, it's just Pierce all in terms of the receiving court.
All right.
We've got Minnesota at Chicago.
Rank the flex options in this game, Dave, after Justin Jefferson.
Oh, boy.
I don't want to forget anybody.
I would say that the Vikings running backs would be up there.
DJ Moore and PPR would probably be ahead of them.
I got D'Andre Swift, you got Aaron Jones.
You've got Moore, O'Donzee.
Jones 1, Swift, 2, DJ Moore 3, O'Donzee 4.
There, doesn't he?
O'Donzee 4, Hawkinson 5.
Yeah, you know what?
I think Hawkinson might be, like, the best one of the group.
Zekees 6, D.L.N. 7, level 1 8.
I needed to know where you put Zekees.
One, Aaron, Swift, two, Jones three,
Doones A four, Mason five, Loveland six.
I don't need to keep going.
Okay, Giants at Commanders.
I thought about this for a game of the week.
Total Homer Game of the Week pick, I thought about it.
Do you trust the running backs in this game, Tracy and any of the commanders guys?
I'd be okay with Tracy, but that's it.
It's starting to sound like the commanders don't,
have like like a firm plan of on like they might have a plan on like which running backs to use
in certain situations like Echler's an easy one to figure out but I don't know if Croskey
Merritt is going to be 15 carries I think Rodriguez is going to get in there I wonder if
McNichols gets in there a little bit and I think they kind of feel their way through knowing
that they've just got a good combination of running backs that they can lean on um the uh would
you start Tyrone Tracy or Ricky Pearsall,
a Mecca, Abuka?
The two receivers.
I think the only way that even comes close is if it's non-PPR.
Oh, okay.
I don't mind Echler as a high influx.
I think Dave's right.
The other guys are going to be a little bit of a mix and match
until they figure out what they want to do there.
But for this week, it feels like Echler's,
as long as Echler's healthy,
you kind of have to assume somewhere around 10 touches,
10 carries, excuse me, and probably 3 to 5 catches.
So I would ballpark it at like 15 total touches for him.
And this Giants defense, because of their past rush,
there's going to be a lot of dump off opportunities for Eccler in the passing game.
Well, just to bring it up, I think he averaged five carries per game when Brian Robinson Jr. was healthy.
But this is, I think, a different situation, though, at least the early part of the season.
Like, I agree with you.
Until they figure out what they've got.
Yeah, once they figure out like that guy, then fine.
Five carries is probably realistic.
I think until we figure out that guy, you want a ballparker, let's say, eight.
Like, I would think, you know, not more than 10 carries for actor because I don't think
they want to overwork him at 30 years old.
Houston's at the Rams.
You're starting anyone other than Nico Collins for Houston?
No.
You'd have to be desperate to start Chubb, Schultz, Higgins.
Stroud's okay and a super flex.
Arizona's at New Orleans.
How are you feeling about Chris Olave?
I kind of like him.
Big rankings discrepancy here for you guys.
Jamie's got him like 42 or something and Dave somewhere around 28.
I don't remember, but it's a big gap on a lot of it.
It's 29, but definitely in the flex conversation for me.
I want to see what this offense looks like.
Listen, you can you can call Alave a starter in through series leagues.
I think that's fine because where he was drafted.
Shaheed, similar situation, you know, if you want to throw him out there.
But it's week one.
Like, Alave, okay.
Chehede probably shouldn't be in a lot of lineups right now.
Mm-hmm.
I agree.
But, you know, one or both can go off.
You're still talking about Spencer Rattler, who was bad last year.
You're talking about Shaheed was outperforming Olave last year when they were both healthy.
I don't know.
It just feels like, let me see what this Saints offense looks like before I say must start for any of these guys.
I wouldn't blame me if you benched either of those guys for those reasons.
And I'm not stumping for Shahid.
I think he's a sleeper this week.
I think he's an interesting DFS play.
But Alave, just the fact that he's lining up everywhere, I feel like he'll be the primary
target for Rattler.
I think Rattler can complete a pass inside of 15 yards.
And I think they're going to be trailing.
And I think Arizona's secondary is still a huge question mark.
All right.
That's one question for each game.
You know, beat the waiver.
I'm not going to, I'm going to be 100% honest with our audience here.
Beat the WaiverWire is a staple of the Friday show.
I think we might be doing it on Express going forward, but I'm not.
Not sure.
We did last year.
What's that?
We did that last year.
That's right.
We did.
All right.
I would say if you can pick up Trevor Lawrence,
he gets Cincinnati next week.
And he's obviously 75% rostered.
If for some reason you find yourself in need of a quarterback for next week,
I think Russell Wilson at Dallas might not be that bad.
He's 14% rostered.
So that'd be the deeper leagues.
But, you know, there's guys like Woody Marks.
There's guys like Dylan Samson,
who's more owned than, or more rostered than Woody
marks. There's a bunch of handcuffs. Chris Rodriguez. You could take a shot on that.
I think Rashid Shaheed. He's about 50% rostered, something like that. He's 54%.
Marvin Mims is 50%. It's really tough in week one because you don't have anyone to drop.
If you had Mori Cooper, Mari Cooper's still 36% rostered. I saw some people picking up Dante Thornton
Jr. He's 23% rostered. Jalen Knoll. I mean, the thing about Noel is Kirk's going to miss one game.
I think they said maybe two.
Yeah, but can't linger.
Yeah, it could linger.
I would say that's for deeper leagues.
You're giving away the cow, Adam.
We've got to save some of these names for Beat the Waiver Wire on Express.
Okay.
Well, I don't think we're doing Express today.
Oh.
And we didn't do it yesterday.
Promoting a show that we're not going to do.
No, we're not doing it today.
So I, so.
We'll do it on the mailbags.
Fine.
Okay, fine.
All right.
Let's talk.
Start or sit.
Tampa Bay is at Atlanta.
Stat of the game that will make you sit, Pijon Robbins.
In Tampa Bay's last nine games, including the playoffs,
sincere McCormick was the only running back
to rush for more than 43 yards against the Bucks.
Christian McCaffrey was the only running back
to score more than 11 PPR fantasy points against the Bucks.
That was the last nine games, but start Bajon Robinson.
And honestly, if Vita Vee doesn't play.
It's something to keep in mind.
They could have a very good run defense,
but they need him healthy.
We are hoping for history repeating itself in this game.
Last year, in the two matchups between Tampa Bay and Atlanta,
the quarterbacks through a combined 14 touchdowns.
Baker Mayfield averaged nearly 29 points per game
and six point per passing touchdown leagues.
Kirk Cousins averaged around 39 points per game.
So we do have a lot of easy calls, Dave.
We've got Baker Mayfield,
Bucky Irving, Bajon Robinson,
Mike Evans, Drake London, easy calls.
Now, we can talk more about Abuka.
I think we should.
He's going to be asked.
If you have any questions about this game,
go ahead and Abuka or Camara.
There's a question.
right away.
Camara.
Okay, Camara.
Kyle Pitts.
I'll try and get a book on your lineup if you can.
Kyle Pitts, if Mooney doesn't play.
You know, Dave, give me the guys that aren't the must start, the obvious ones.
What do you think?
I mean, we basically went through them all.
It's probably easier just to talk about the players that we don't want to start.
If Mooney ends up playing, I don't feel good about Pitts.
I don't even feel that good about Pitts.
I guess he's okay.
If Mooney is out.
Rashad White, you'd have to be 3 a.m.
desperate to go with him.
No way you're starting Sean Tucker.
If Otten plays, I don't really like any chance with him.
I don't even know, like, this might be one of those games where if it's a quality
player and you draft him in the first nine rounds, you're starting this guy.
It should be a high scoring game.
If there is a concern, it's with the Falcons passing game because we know that the blind
side tackle for Michael Pennix is out.
His replacement is average.
Buck's defense is going to pressure the hell.
heck out of that offensive line.
And the secondary, I think, is better than advertised.
So it's going to be a little difficult for Atlanta to move the ball way down field.
They really need Mooney to make that happen.
Okay.
So let me read a few questions here in the chat.
Matthew Golden or Emeka Abuka.
I go Golden.
Abuka or Pearsall.
Abuka.
Ricky.
Baker or Stroud.
You got to go Baker, right?
yeah um pits or cancade
pitts
i would say pits
i'm going to say pits no matter what
whether or not mooney plays
abuka or devante adams i'm scared about
houston's cornerbacks
i get that
adams
adam's probably going to play in the slot so much so he's not
going to see i don't know about that i think i might have been
wrong about that when he first went to l a i thought
he'd completely play in the slot a lot.
I wonder now if they're going to just move everybody around.
They will.
I think, you know, in the 40, like Cup, I think was in the 70% slot range.
I think maybe, what do you think, 40, 50% for Adams.
Pooka, I think is usually in the 30s, if I remember.
All right, I think that's it.
Olave, sorry, not Olave.
Abuka, Tetero, McMillan, or Garrett Wilson, pick one.
McMillan.
I'll take McMillan.
Abuka or Travis Hunter.
Abuka.
Abuka.
Okay, and pick two.
Oh, sorry, hit the wrong thing there.
Pick two.
What was that?
Yeah, it's cool.
Abuka, Sutton, or Pollard.
You have to sit one, basically.
I'm sitting at Boehler.
Oh, I'd sit Pollard.
You're sitting Pollard.
Sitting Pollard.
Interesting.
Okay.
I guess that was wrong.
So Mooney, where would you rank him if he plays?
And Pitts, where would you rank him if Mooney doesn't play?
Mooney's outside of my top 36.
So low end flex at best
You could use them
It depends on who else you have
Pits right now is not startable
Unless Mooney is out
And panics
Fine in two QB leagues
Totally fine
I'd start him over Stroud
Sure
Anything else in this game
Kate Otten
Was he playing
He's been limited
Yeah
I'm not going to feel good about him.
Like, I'd rather start Schultz at this point.
All right.
All right.
Bugs is okay.
That's it for that game.
Detroit at Green Bay.
Here's the stat of the game.
Number one wide receivers last year owned Detroit.
And let me talk about Detroit's defense because it was really good last year
until the last, I don't know, five or six weeks.
And then it was God awful.
Basically weeks one through 13, they had the second best defense in the NFL
in terms of points per game.
They were 11th in yards per play.
Weeks 14 through 18, obviously no Hutchinson.
Ali McNeil got hurt for most of that stretch.
Their secondary got hurt.
They were 28th in points per game.
They were last in yards per play.
So on paper, like you think about Detroit Green Bay.
It's kind of interesting, guys.
It's like great offensive players,
but we might have really two very good defenses here.
But even last year when Detroit had a good defense,
number one wide receivers crush them.
15.9 or more PPR fantasy points to a wide receiver in 15 of 18 games.
I will say they faced a gauntlet of wide receivers.
They were not giving these up to bad receivers.
But Matthew Golden's a name I keep getting asked about.
How do you guys feel, Jamie, I'll let's let you start.
How do you feel about Matthew Golden in this matchup?
I think he's in a very similar spot to Abuka and Pearsall
as a guy that you don't necessarily,
You didn't draft him to be a starter in a two-receiver league.
It's a definite starter in three-receiver leagues.
And two receivers in a flex, he's probably going to be one of your high-end flexes.
So it just really comes down to, you know, if you even want to compare him to those three guys.
Like, he's third for me because I think Cabuca's matchup is so much better.
And I think Pearsall still locked in right now as the number one guy for the 49ers.
So I would put golden third of that group, but they're almost essentially back-to-back-to-back.
So it's a great opportunity for him.
Again, Jaden Reed, who knows if he's going to play, Dante, Wix, who knows.
knows if he's going to play, but it's also a much better Detroit defense.
Like, don't look at the way last season finished.
I think you set it up perfectly.
Like, this is still going to be a very tough situation for Jordan Love.
Don't really love him as a must-start quarterback by any stretch.
To me, the only must-start player for the Packers is Josh Jacobs.
Agreed.
And listen, we've talked a lot about, oh, the Packers added Micah Parsons and he's going
to make their passers, great.
The Lions are getting back Aidan Hutchinson.
That's a pretty big deal.
reason why their defense fell off, and it fell off in like cliffs last season, as you talked about
Adam, is because they had injuries to their defensive line. It started with Aidan Hutchinson
being out for the year in the first half of the season. So he's back. He's going to apply all kinds
of pressure on Jordan Love. That does make things a little bit harder for them. But on the flip
side, we've talked about the Lions offense and how they've got play caller change there. They
have it on defense too. I think they're still going to do what they do and play a lot of man
coverage, and that's what helps number one receivers have huge games because those types of
players can beat man to man.
It'll be interesting if Golden can be huge in that regard.
I think he can't.
All kinds of things that I read and heard from camp was that Matthew Golden was beating up
on Green Bay's corners when they were practicing in man coverage.
And so I agree with Jamie.
He's a definite number three fantasy receiver.
I will take the chance on him over a Bucca, but not Pearsall.
And Jamie likes a Bucca over Golden, right?
Right.
Yes.
All right.
Would you start Golden or Tyrone Tracy?
Golden.
Golden and PPR.
Golden or Isaiah Pacheco?
Golden.
I'm looking in my rankings because I don't have it off the top of my head.
I have Golden higher.
In half PPR?
Sure.
Golden.
Golden or Jalen Warren?
Golden.
Golden and PPR.
All right, let's go a little higher.
Golden or Aaron Jones?
Jones, by a mile.
I've got Golden higher.
All right, Jones is another guy
we can have a rankings dispute about
in a little bit.
All right, we're going to do,
we did Tier Maker yesterday for Ravens Bills.
Let's do it again here.
If you're watching, YouTube.com slash fantasy football today.
So Tier 1 is the obvious must starts.
Tier 2, I think, is like you're starting them.
You don't necessarily love them.
Like James Cook, for example,
was in tier 2 yesterday.
yesterday. So Jared Goff and Jordan Love, where are we putting them?
Tier 3.
So that's a sit. That's a, not an outright sit.
Correct. But it's not a start. And who do you like?
I feel like there's too many tiers.
Don't, please. Let's just do what we can.
Okay, fine. Love or golf, by the way. Who do you like better?
Love golf. And give me some guys you would start over them real quick.
Trevor Lawrence, Drake May.
to a
Purdy
Kyler
Tyler is a good one
Let's get the Montgomery
Well all right
Let's throw yeah
Montgomery let's do Montgomery
Tier 2
Okay
I like it
I'm kind of looking at
Tier 1 is must start
Tier 2 is probably start
Yep
Tier 3 is
Would prefer to sit
Tier 4
Likely said
Tier 5
Why is even on my fantasy team
By the way
Is tier 5 green
And Tier 1 red
it's fire if i am supposed to know who these players are by their picture we're going to have
some trouble here jemir gibbs is next yeah i get jimir gibbs i know it's not start josh jacobs must
start all right jacob jacob's put jimmy put the next two guys in tier one jacobs and uh i can't
believe you just ch-cha chud jami put sam laporta in tier one must start put arm on russing no no no no no
sam laporta is in tier two who's sitting sam la porta
I just don't think he's slam dunk
The other two guys are slam dunk
All right. Put Amon Rossin-Brown in slam dunk
Must start
Where's Tucker Kraft?
Tier 3
Prob start, probably start
Clary, you want to...
Well, no, that's probably sit.
I think Tucker Kraft is in tier two.
Yeah, my bad.
Wait, we got a typo there, Claire.
You want to go, it says prop instead of prob.
Prop sit.
All right, Tucker Kraft.
Yeah, is he top 12 for you guys this week?
Yeah, barely, but yes.
No.
Leporter should be in tier one.
Nobody's sitting, Sam Leport.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, thank you, Claire.
Yeah.
Take that, Jameen Williams.
Interesting one here.
Jameson Williams.
Put him in tier two.
I'm more excited about Jamo than most people.
Like, I would honestly put him in tier one.
I think he's awesome.
But I get it if you want to put him in tier two.
You should start him.
This team allowed the Packers allowed the third few,
was fantasy points to wide receivers last year.
So it's not an easy matchup.
You never know what kind of targets again.
I think, look, if I'm the Lions,
this team just traded Kenny Clark.
They should run the air out of the football in this game.
So, Jamie, you're not as optimistic on Jameson Williams, are you?
I think he's in that same category as Mecca, Buka, Ricky Pierce, Saul, and Matthew
Golden this week.
He is a must start in three receiver leagues and it may be starting to receive leagues.
Do you like him ahead of those guys?
Dave likes him ahead of those guys, do you?
I do like him ahead of those guys,
but I don't think there's much difference
between what their outlook is for this week
comparatively to the other three guys.
Okay, and who are those three on the bottom there?
Well, one of them's Matthew Golden.
One of them's Golden Reed and I think Dobbs.
So here's what we should do.
And I'm sure this is a real joy
for everybody listening
and not watching on YouTube.
You should put golf and love in the sit tier
and then put Golden
and Jamie would probably have Jameson
in that middle tier of and Tucker
Kraft could be there too
in the just call it the maybe pile
okay
this didn't go as well as the Buffalo one
but Matthew Golden
that's Matthew Golden
he's in the probably sit
yeah
he's in that it's not probably
it's just maybe it's like maybe
right it depends on your league format
so Jaden Reed is the first
one there at the bottom just maybe
he's a sit he's a sit yeah and so is dies but he's he oh why do you have him no jane reed
no yeah no he's he's a sit you should have him and we're gonna put dobs in the sit category too
because you have him agreed nobody's in the why do you have him tier and they should you know it's
packers lions where's i where's tesla he's in the why do you have we just put a picture of a car
do we do this for every game now or is it just a no it went well yet let yesterday
are we ever doing this again i think so i think we could do it i mean i mean
I mean, it's better visually, but for audio, I guess it didn't really work.
You want to recap it for everybody listening?
Yeah.
The must start guys are Gibbs, Jacobs, St. Brown, and LaPorteur.
The start is David Montgomery.
So we like Montgomery better than Golden, even in full PPR, right?
I'm not sure I have it ranked that way.
I'm sorry, what was the question?
Montgomery or Golden?
I look at this chart, and I see Montgomery's in a tier above Matthew Golden and Jameson Williams.
Yeah, in full PPR, I've golden ahead of Montgomery.
I think Montgomery is a maybe.
Okay, move Montgomery down.
And Montgomery's always going to make it a little nervous,
but I think it's going to be a good game for him, guys.
I mean, I feel like the Packers' run defense is going to be its weakness.
I don't disagree.
I just, like, you know, going back to, again,
where were these guys drafted versus what the expectations are for this week?
So is he going to be in a lot of people's lineups?
Yeah, he's probably going to be, I would say, 65 to 70% started.
So there's a little bit of a gray area for a lot of people.
based on some of the projections that people are looking at.
You know, I know, like, for some sites I've seen, Tyrone Tracy's projections are huge.
So that's a tough call for, I'm sure, a lot of people.
He's projected for more fantasy points than Isaiah Pacheco this week.
So you might consider starting Montgomery over Pachco.
Are you worried about Montgomery not having the same type of workload as he had when he was healthy last year?
So John Morton said yesterday, like, the roles are probably going to be the same.
The touches.
I don't know if he said roller touches,
but I think he said the workload is going to...
I read that he said,
we'll see.
All right, maybe that's another wrong thing.
I think at this point, Montgomery,
just anticipate a chance to score a touchdown
and probably 65 to 85 total yards,
somewhere in there.
For what it's worth,
if he does that, then he's safer than golden.
This game is a total of 47.
It's a high total.
It's about the same as at Tampa Bay, Atlanta.
so same was last night's game probably want to be leaning towards starts the sits though the guys
we'd like to sit are golf love read and dobs dobs and you know dobs base would you guys start
dobs or reed by the way i was sorry all right start a dST no no i prefer not to all right we're
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Brock Purdy did not quite crack the top 12 this week.
13th for Jamie, 14th for Dave.
18th for Heath.
Seattle, you know, they could have a pretty good defense here.
But Purdy, look, you can start Purdy.
He's better than love.
he's better than golf, but not as good as Trevor Lawrence, right?
Not Drake May.
No, I would start those other two over him, yeah.
All right.
He scored 30 points and 20 points against Seattle last season on 28 past temps in both games.
Christian McCaffrey, start him if he plays.
Brian Robinson, Jr. would be where in your rankings if McCaffrey were out?
Good question.
Yeah, he'd be a low-end starter.
He might be like right at 24 in PPR because he doesn't catch a lot of passes.
Okay.
Seahawks' defense, run defense was not good last year, but they've got some good personnel.
They could turn that around.
Ricky Pearsall, so you guys want to wait and see on Joanne Jennings.
Jennings is 81% rostered, by the way.
It's possible that he should be closer to 100% rostered.
Pearsall is about right around 25th in your rankings.
He's lower for Heath.
Heath has him 36.
We kind of talked about that.
So, you know, you got to make that decision.
I think always a guy like David Montgomery against the wide receiver.
is always tough.
So like Pearsall versus Montgomery, where do you lean?
Pierceall and PPR, Montgomery in half and none.
It's something I'm going to need to revisit.
If I'm going to believe that Montgomery has a floor of,
let's call it, 12 PPR points,
that still feels pretty safe.
I do think Pearsall is more upside.
And,
And Joanne Jennings or Romeo Dobbs.
Jennings for now, if Reed is ruled out, I'll take Dobbs.
Sounds good.
Here's a question.
Ricky Pearsall, Stefan Diggs, or R.J. Harvey, pick two.
Sitting Diggs.
Yep.
Okay.
Don't know how much he's going to play.
Start George Kittle.
I just thought it was funny that Sam Darnold was the number eight quarterback per game last year,
and he is not in the top 24 this week.
Yeah.
There was a great article on ESPN about Sam Darnold
and about how his very brief stint with the 49ers
boosted his career.
He learned behind Brock Purdy,
and he saw the way that Purdy,
and made me appreciate Purdy even more,
he saw the way that Purdy always went through his progressions,
did the right thing, time after time after time,
had a big impact on Sam Darnold.
Oh, Baker Mayfield said the same thing about his time with the Rams,
And I hope for a lot of things that it helped Sam helped Daniel Jones with his brief time with Minnesota.
You know, we make the joke, you know, they go through the car wash, but they get time with these exceptional coaches that spend a lot of time on little details and know how to make quarterbacks play at a higher level.
And, I mean, look, we are talking about guys that had pedigree, you know.
Yeah.
you know they came into the NFL with a lot of talent they were drafted in the first round
they were expected to be superstars and they failed and a lot of that probably had to do with coaching
and so darnald got coached and looked better and hopefully it carries the rest of his career
so by the way darnold's position coach when he was in san francisco is now his offensive
coordinator in seattle so um yeah okay sorry i got it's off track there now let's talk about san francisco
their defense last year.
They were 29th in points allowed.
They were terrible on third down.
They had the second worst red zone defense in the NFL.
They were beat up.
This offseason, they lost two defensive backs.
Defensive tackle, Javon Hargrave,
linebacker Drake Greenlaw,
who only played two games for them last year.
They did acquire Bryce Huff.
They drafted Michael Williams, 11th overall,
defensive lineman,
and they brought back Robert Sala as their coordinator.
But there is some concern, I think, about their defense.
So this will be a test for them.
We'll see.
Start Ken Walker.
Ken Walker, David Monk,
Gummery.
Walker.
All right.
Everyone's going to,
most people are going to start,
Ken Walker.
This is going to be an interesting game
to see how much they use
Charbonnet in tandem with Walker.
There's going to be a lot of people panicking
if it's,
you know,
the Walker perspective,
if Charbonnet comes out
and is close to a 50-50 split.
I wouldn't panic on Charbonnet
if Walker comes out
and dominates such us
because we know how the situation plays out
almost every year.
So just understand the circumstances.
49ers actually allowed
the third most fantasy points
the running backs last year.
JSN's a start.
Start or sit Cooper Cup.
He's laid out a pretty good argument for Cup based on how his week ones typically go.
But I think for me, Cup and like Olavé is a very similar situation.
You know, like just somebody you want to see how it looks based on where you drafted
these guys.
Like wouldn't shock me if Cup came out and had a big game, you know, when he's healthy
and, you know, featured in an offense and have the chance to produce.
But it is a new offense.
It's a new quarterback.
It's a lot of things that are moving parts.
You know, he was essentially the 1A, which he may be with JSN,
but I think just based on how this offense should operate,
JSN should lead the team of target.
So I'd rather, you know, only start him in a three receiver and a flex league.
Two receivers and a flex, I would hope you have better options at least for a week one.
I think it's risky because on top of all the questions that Jamie brought up,
he's not the same guy that he was even last year in week one.
And forget about the years before that when he came.
came out and he was fresh. He's just not as fast anymore.
I don't think he can beat man coverage. I don't know how much man coverage of the Niners
are even going to play, probably not a lot. So he's going to need to rely on just getting
open in space. And don't the Seahawks want to be a running team? If this game's close, I don't
know how much throwing Donald's going to do. So I think it's a, I think it's a significant risk
if you start Cooper Cup. There are a lot of receivers I'd rather start. Trivia question. Over the last
two years, how many catches this Cooper Cup have against the 49ers? 23 and 2020.
I'll say, I bet it's even lower.
I bet like he missed some of those games.
And so did he play four games?
He played one game.
He had no catches on three targets.
He has not caught a pass against.
Oh, that's not fair.
He played in only one game.
He has not caught a pass against the 49ers since 2022.
All right.
That's it for this game.
Sit the Seahawks tight ends.
I got, um,
I'll take the over on zero receptions.
I'm hoping for a little Elijah.
Roger Royo, and San Francisco's DST is top 11 for everyone and seventh for Dave and Jamie.
We go to Minnesota and Chicago, Monday night game.
These defenses were so different last year.
The Bears were terrible against the run.
They allowed the fourth most fantasy points to running backs, and they saw the fewest
wide receiver targets in the NFL, 15.8 per game.
The Vikings were good against the run, and they saw the second most wide receiver targets
in the NFL.
They saw 23 wide receiver targets for games.
If you think about that, 7.2.
more wide receiver targets per game against Minnesota than Chicago.
And the Vikings, they scored eight more points per game than the Bears, so teams had to
throw against them more.
But two completely opposite defenses.
All right, rankings dispute of the game.
Jamie, you have Aaron Jones 17th.
Dave, you have him 25th.
Go for it, Jamie.
Again, just the history of what he has done against this team.
And I think as long as he's healthy and going into the season, he's going to get every
opportunity to lead the Vikings and touches.
He's going to lose opportunities because of Jordan Mason,
but I'm not worried about that based on this game,
how this run defense should look and how Aaron Jones should perform.
So to me, he's a very solid number two running back.
12 games in the last six years against the Bears.
He has averaged 18.3 PPR points per game against this defense.
Like, it's just fantastic what he does against Chicago.
So I'm not going to sit Aaron Jones this week by any stretch.
I've got them on the, like, border of a number two running back.
And so if you want to put him ahead of Pache,
or R.J. Harvey or Brees Hall. That's fine. I get it. You could do something like that. But this is the first time we're going into a season where we're expecting Aaron Jones to split reps significantly. And that makes me worry about what his upside can be. And so averaging whatever he's done against Chicago, I don't even know if that matters. I think it helps that the offensive line from Minnesota is better. I don't think the bear's run defense is going to be any better than they were last year. But I do expect them to play a little more man coverage.
that means that the safety could be down to help stop the run.
I do wonder if when the Vikings are in short-yardage situations, do they lean on Mason there
because he's younger, stronger, and they try and save Jones.
So I can't put him as a top 20 running back.
It wouldn't surprise me if he ended up finishing the week as a top 20 running back.
But I think that there are other running backs that have more upside than Jones based on what his situation is for this week and maybe for this season.
All right, as we run through this game, we're going to wait and see on J.J. McCarthy. He's 71% rostered. He's 19th for Dave and Jamie, 23rd for Heath. Now, the Bears, again, they just didn't see a lot of pass attempts. So third few has passed attempts per game against in football last year because their run defense was so bad. But they weren't good against the best. Sorry, not to interrupt you. I know I walked away for a second. You also have JJ McCarthy making his first start. The easiest thing to help him is going to be a run game.
Right. And the bears know that. So the easiest thing they'll do, or not the easiest thing.
thing they'll do. The first thing they'll do is focus on the run and try and make the
kid me like that. They can't really do that though against Minnesota. Like I'm thinking
about it as I say that because they've got Justin Jefferson. Yeah. What are they going to do?
They're going to play one on one against Justin Jefferson with with I don't know if Jalon Johnson's
A going to play or B is 100%. All right. Start Hawkinson. Start Jefferson. Jalen
Naylor did catch a touchdown in both games that Addison missed last year. But,
Hawkinson also missed those games.
They didn't have feelings.
And they didn't have Thielen.
Yeah.
So is Thielen the guy you're looking at if you want a desperation play?
I think there's going to be a handful of veteran guys that, you know, have strong games
this week, you know, to whatever degree you want.
I don't know if you want to just say veteran guys, but like guys that we did not draft,
guys that we, you know, did not spend a lot of time talking about.
And there's probably two in this game.
Thelan is one.
He's clearly got a lot more, you know, of a lengthy resume.
and Zakias, you know, just based on what his, you know, chances are after everything that unfolded in the preseason.
I think Luther Burton, if you have him, and he does not do anything, unless you're just desperate, you have to make a roster move.
Please be patient because he's going to eventually get a lot of opportunities to play.
But it's going to be guys like Thielen and Zakeas and one of Parker, Washington, or Diamie Brown in Jacksonville.
And, again, not a veteran guy, but circumstances have changed for one of,
Xavier Liget, or Hunter Renfro.
Like, there's going to be these guys that just have big type of games because of role changes
or whatever, and the waiver wire conversation next week is going to be fun.
But in the case of Thielen, I don't want to start him, but you may have a situation where
you drafted Rashi Rice and Jordan Addison pre-Rice suspension news, and you're scrambling for
options that are guys going to be in good situation.
I drafted, you know, I draft a lot of Christian Kirk.
and in three receiver leagues,
I was planning on starting Christian Kirk
maybe as a flex,
and I'm starting Quentin Johnston
in a league tonight.
So I know fantasy managers
have to stretch.
They have to reach,
and these are names
that we need to talk about for sure.
Yeah, I had a,
it's a 20 team league,
so a little bit different,
but like I'm pivoting from Christian Kirk
to Josh Palmer.
Okay.
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
So it's good, you know,
if you ever hit on that,
on those guys, like it feels good
to take a shot on someone
that no one's starting.
Well, that's what, you know, beating the waiver wires for.
Like, you're going to, you have a chance to pick up one of these guys.
Like, Adam Thielen's schedule for the first three weeks is great.
And so if he comes out and plays well, like, you're going to be thrilled to have him for the three games that Jordan Addison's not there.
All right.
Back to this game.
Caleb Williams were going to sit.
Vikings had a great defense last year.
They probably got better in the off season.
They allowed the fourth few.
Here comes a blitz on like 40% of their snaps.
Yeah.
Williams did have one good game against them, though, last year.
He did.
He did.
He had one bad game and one great game,
31 points and 12 points in two games.
They were trailing by 14 in the fourth quarter in the great game he had.
D'Andre Swift or Aaron Jones?
Swift.
That's for me.
All right.
Swift is, Minnesota was really tough against the run,
and they added Hargrave and Allen on their line.
It's not a great matchup, but it's a great situation.
So like R.J. Harvey, Trayvion Henderson, or DeAndre Swift?
Henderson and Swift, Harvey.
I'll take the rookies ahead of Swift,
but Swift is still a very good number two running back.
I think the one thing to look at was Swift,
and granted the offensive line is much better,
and the play caller is definitely much better.
He had one game with, I think it was 19 total touches.
So it's not like he didn't have the work.
Yeah.
And the expectation is he's going to have the work.
So what will he do with the work is clearly the question here.
And so I think he's just the number two running back.
Like I wouldn't get cute with it and say he's,
You know, should be started over, you know, a handful of guys.
Like, again, for me, I like Aaron Jones situation much better than DeAndre Swift this week.
So I'll take Jones over that.
And I would rather have the running back who's going to probably dominate snaps and touches.
Yeah, like we're getting a question here.
Pick one.
Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason, or Jerome Ford have PPR.
You got to go Aaron Jones there.
Yeah, I go Jones.
Okay.
So Chicago wide receivers.
I like Jerome Ford a lot.
But, yeah.
Chicago wide receivers.
The Vikings gave up the most fantasy.
points to receivers last year.
You guys do not have either guy in your top.
Well, you have him 30th, basically, DJ Moore.
Dunez-day is closer to 40th.
So why so low on these guys, Dave?
Just week one, a lot of guys to start.
Week one, a lot of guys to start, and lack of confidence in the Bears passing game.
It's really more of the lack of confidence in the Bears' offensive line.
And the fact that Brian Flores is going to throw the house at Caleb Williams.
And we've seen Williams when he's under pressure, and it's not pretty.
Okay.
But no Harrison Smith, probably.
So if you have to start him, you might be okay.
I think the tough calls will be if you drafted DJ Moore and Ibuka, Pierce,
all, Golden, those type of players that probably have more upside, but probably have a lower floor.
That's for DJ Moore.
Colson Loveland, start or sit.
I think you said him this week.
It's a little bit trickier with him
comparatively to Tyler Warren
if you're looking at the two rookie tight ends
because Warren's got a better matchup.
Warren does not have as much competition for targets,
although it's still crowded in Indianapolis.
For Loveland, it's like just so many moving parts
right now with the Bears.
So like I'd like to see it first.
I definitely want to roster Loveland.
This is not a guy that if he has a bad game,
you're dropping because he could easily look like a superstar
in a week.
But if he comes out and has a big game,
then you're going to be thrilled.
He's on your team.
I wonder if they try and scheme up Loveland because there's no Harrison Smith.
I wonder if they're going to do that with Colcombe.
I don't know too much.
I feel like if you see, I'm sorry if you just said this, Jamie,
but if you see Cole Commet out playing Loveland, like more snaps in week one,
don't panic.
They could ease the rookie in a little bit.
Yeah, of course.
All right.
Minnesota's DST is top four.
Sit the Bears' DST.
The other game of the week, Giants,
at Commanders.
Here's your useless, why even bother,
stat of the game.
Daniel Jones scored 22.3 or more fantasy points
in both games against Washington last year,
and Russell Wilson scored 24.1 fantasy points
at Washington in week 10.
Maybe a little DFS,
maybe a little DFS sneaky stack,
Wilson and neighbors.
I don't think that's sneaky, buddy.
Okay.
You have neighbors.
It's not sneaky.
The sneaky stack would be if you go Russ and Slayton,
like one of those.
well okay fine but giant stack i think would be maybe a little sneaky maybe not
giants play the commander's pretty tough so um i think the commanders are like six point favorites
or something right there's so much better the giants are this year compared to last year
yeah but they're not as good as the commander's five and a half point oh favorite and um 45
and a half is the over under all right russell wilson's not ranked tyrone tracy is a really
interesting call he's out he's behind erin jones he's behind swift he's behind jalen warren this
week, right?
Yep.
Not far, but yeah.
Tracy or Breece Hall?
Tracy.
I have Hall higher.
Tracy or
James, and I think I did that,
like that Jameson William.
Yeah, that James and
William's a Bucca Pierceall group.
Tracy, what do you think?
I would go with the receivers in PBR.
How about...
I have him...
Yeah, I've got him behind all those receivers.
I think the one thing that's going to be interesting to see is
how much does he play on passing downs and the goal line work the goal line work
and especially the goal line work for a team that's not expected to score a lot so
Tracy or sorry Tracy or Deboeboe's healthy
I would go with Debo and people here
okay I'm curious about weird well why what do we like about Debo
well you have McLaurin working his way back in you know he's talked about
he hopes he's not on a snap count which
I'd be surprised if he is, but, like, there's probably one to two carries here.
There's probably a little bit of show off the shiny new toy, and especially if the Giants
pass rush is going to be as good as it can be, it's get the ball out quick.
Well, he's going to be operating near the line of scrimmage.
So I think this is a good week for Debo Sam, but he's, again, right in that mix of Abuka,
Pierce all golden for me, just, you know, a high-end number three receivers here.
The commanders don't necessarily want to use Debo the same way the 49ers did.
it doesn't mean they won't so certainly he can be a short area outlet just like
Ertz's and McLaurin runs short routes too but they they like him as a downfield
threat yeah but they were one of the teams that use wide receiver screens the highest
percentage sure so they can it's just like I said like they're definitely going to use him
in that regard a couple of times again you said like what one to two gary's for Debo would
you be surprised if he had two to three screens every single week I think there's
forget about just targets like manufacturer touches for him
yeah like we're talking three to five a game okay so uh would you okay let's get back to this so
start neighbors uh don't start any other giants wide receivers sit theo johnson i am kind
of interested though in theo johnson from a deep like a deeper league standpoint he had
four to six targets in five straight games to end the season seem like they were featuring him
in the preseason jaden daniel start him your favorite commander's running back is
Echler by a lot.
Okay. And Echler is ranked.
Right around Tracy, that range.
He's behind Tracy for me.
Yeah, I would start Tracy too, but high inflex.
Terry McLaurin is
Top 24.
He's 24th on the dot.
Okay.
Do you like him better than Debo, I assume?
Yes.
He's got a great history against the Giants.
He's averaged 16.5 PPR fantasy points per game.
in 11 games against the Giants.
They might shadow him with Paul Sinadebo,
but I don't think it's going to go well.
And Zach Ertz, what do you think?
I haven't really asked about Tucker Kraft.
I kind of skipped him,
but would you start Zach Ertz or Tucker Kraft?
I would start Kraft.
I mean, the Giants, for what it's worth,
were great against tight ends last year,
and Ertz had one okay game and one terrible game against them.
I would actually start, if there's no darn on Mooney,
I would start Kyle Pitts over Zach Earth.
without question.
I would too.
Kraft is,
he's got the higher ceiling
and a very,
very close floor to Ertz.
If you really wanted
the worst matchup of any tight end.
It's true.
Well, actually,
Zach Ertz does.
The Giants allowed
the fewest fantasy points
of tight ends.
And I went and looked,
Shane Bowen their defensive coordinator,
he's been top six
against tight ends
in three of four seasons
as a coordinator.
He's been terrible in the other one.
But there might be something to that.
I don't know.
I mean,
it could just be totally fluke
but think about it might just be how they play and craft is more of an explosive pass catcher
and route runner anyway like urts run six yards and turns around Tucker craft will run like a decent
route downfield or the only thing urts did last year was score touchdowns and and you like
and kill the eagles now they have debo if you think debo's going to be good and mccloren's going
be good i just i don't know maybe they just throw a lot well what's appealing for urts is that
jaden daniels leans on him a ton whenever
things break down or whatever he did that before having any book right that's true but i think
that'll stick it's really about like manufactured touches how many manufactured touches are they
going to have for zach hurts all right commanders dstst is ninth for jamie with tucker craft
sorry just to wrap it up is he definitely benefits a lot if reed is out because just one less
mouth of heat absolutely yeah okay so commander's dsd is ninth for jamie 10th for david not ranked in
the top 24 for heath he maybe heath's feeling the up
upset.
Houston's at the Rams.
Stad of the game.
He loves Russell Wilson,
so all those things coming together.
There you go.
Stat of the game for this one.
I'm keeping an eye on the Rams defense.
I don't know if the expectations are super high,
but they're young.
They've got some talent.
They gave up 37 points to the Eagles in week 12.
After that, they averaged,
they allowed an average of 16.7 points per game
in their last seven games,
including the playoffs,
but not including week 18 when they were sitting their starters.
So the Rams defense came alive at the end of last season,
just something to keep in mind.
The Texans, obviously,
they could have one of the best defenses in football.
They already were good,
and they got C.J. Gardner Johnson.
So we're going to sit Stafford.
We're going to sit Stroud.
Stroud's 23rd for both of you.
We're going to start Kyron Williams.
It is a tough matchup,
but Kyron Williams, obviously, you're starting.
Earlier in the show, the guys said they don't want to start Nick Chub.
If you guys have any in the chat,
any Nick Chub questions, you know, please fire away.
If Nick Chub doesn't look good,
it may not be long before they turn.
to what he marks.
So he's...
Please, that's.
He's 23% rostered.
Take a shot.
Okay.
Nico Collins, for sure.
If you had to choose
between a Texans wide receiver
and Nick Chubb,
who would you...
I'll start Nico over Nick Chubb.
Thanks for asking.
Who would you take?
Nick Chubb or Higgins or Noel?
Who?
Higgins.
Wow, really?
I guess it's more fun.
Like Chubb is touchdown.
I'm sorry.
Is your question, if you were doing it?
Right.
You have to start one of these guys guys.
Oh, I would start Chubb over the receivers.
Okay.
If you had to pick a Texas receiver.
Chubb is the safest, but if he doesn't score, it could be very, very ugly.
If you look at Chubbs' good games last year, it was like 59 yards rushing in a touchdown.
You know, so he could do that.
Dave made the case for Dalton Schultz as a, what, if you're desperate.
Sleeper tied.
The Rams stunk against tight ends.
They did give him.
up the third most fantasy points to tight ends.
They restocked at linebacker, so maybe they'll be a little bit better there, but
I feel like I need to see it first.
And then you've got Puka and Adams.
So everyone's starting Puka.
Adams, you guys have 15th.
All right, not much really to say there.
I'll just leave this game.
It's just obvious what you're doing with this game.
You're starting, Kyron, Niko, Adams, and Puka.
Chub is going to leave to some questions.
For people who are desperate, they're sitting in the quarterbacks,
stashing what he marks.
And if you're desperate, you can go to one of those secondary,
Jaden Higgins, Jalen Knowles.
And the Texans' DST is sixth for Jamie,
11th for Dave, 14th for Heath.
Arizona's at New Orleans.
Got to start, Kyler.
So I know you guys like Lawrence and Drake May.
You starting them over Kyler?
Are you going with Kyler Murray?
Kyler.
Feels a little risky, but I can't help myself.
It's Kyler Murray.
Love Connor this week, right?
This could be a Joe Boo game.
A week one Joe boo game, does that even exist, Adam?
For who?
For basically everybody in Arizona, but especially Kyler Murray.
If they come out and they're flat and they stink, there's questions about, you know,
what the hell did they do all off season?
Because this is supposed to be an easy matchup.
I know it's on the road, but you fixed up the offense.
You supposedly made changes.
Kyler's motivated
he wants to run more
he wants to show that he can
complete fade routes
and back shoulder throws
to Marvin Harrison
you've got this stud tight end
if they if they lose this game
I've got all kinds of questions
about what Jonathan Gannon's doing
out of it.
If they lose this game
Survivor pulls are going to be flipped
upside down
well this isn't the game to take
it's Denver that you should take
well you want to save Denver
don't you?
You don't want to
I want to lose week one.
Correct.
Here's a good question.
Adams, Marvin Harrison, Jr. or Jerry Judy?
Harrison's third of that group.
Who's first?
Adams.
Adams is first.
Okay.
Harrison Jr.
Do you crack your top 24?
Yes.
He is 23rd.
Judy is 22nd.
Look, if you drafted Cardinals and you don't start them against the Saints, I don't know why you drafted
Cardinals.
Right.
The one thing I want to see is, let's get Tray McBride at touchdown week one.
Yeah, I feel that.
It's such a good matchup for him, too.
Yeah, baby.
A bunch of older linebackers in New Orleans.
Pass rush isn't that strong.
Brandon Staley is the defensive coordinator.
I know Chargers fans are probably, they know what to expect now.
They'll feel much better about starting Cardinals players.
I like Kyler of Duty.
That's a good team name there.
There was a team name in Heath's FFT Open League that I meant to mention yesterday that I didn't see results.
That's funny.
Hopefully, hopefully he's not Kyler of duty.
That'll be that.
Alvin Camara is a start for you guys, 17th in non-PPR for Dave, 20th for Jamie.
But in full PPR, Alvin Camara is 13th or 14th for everyone.
And Arizona was really bad against running back.
Arizona, they talking like they're going to have a good defense this year.
They've invested in it with draft picks, free agency and whatnot.
So we'll see.
We like their DST.
That was our streamer of the week.
They're 56% rostered.
They get Carolina next week as well.
All right.
So then really, Olaave and Shaheed,
we talked about at the top of the show.
But final thoughts on you guys are sitting,
Shaheed.
But I guess in the, like, Texas,
Nick Chubb or Rashid Shahid.
I still start Chubb, but it's close.
I'll start Shahid if catches count for anything.
And if you're in a three-wide receiver one flex league,
I think Shihid could be your flex.
But definitely Olave over Chub.
Definitely, O'Lah.
Alave as a number three
receiver. As of right now, Alabe has started
in 16% of leagues.
So people are definitely taking
the... He just wasn't drafted
in a range where he's a must-star guy. That's the thing.
Yeah. And he's not a must-start guy.
He's like a really good
number three receiver. Now, what I
want to see, because
the biggest concern for Olabe, I don't know
about the biggest, but one of the concerns was that
last year in five
games where he was healthy, Shaheed
was healthy, Derek Carr was healthy.
He had 28 targets, and Shaheed had 34.
And Camara had 28.
So Camara and Olava had a 21.5% target share.
Shaheed had a 26.2% target share.
Nobody stood out in the red zone.
Nobody stood out in the end zone.
And Shahid was getting that 26% target share with a 16.8 yard ADOT, which is insane.
You don't get that kind of target share when your ad dot's that high.
Olave has to establish himself as the number one wide receiver.
all right agree that is it that may by the way that stat makes me want to carry tory horton on my
bench this week oh that puts him over the top compared to almost everybody else that we
talked about beating the waiver wire with that's the speed receiver in seattle clint kubiak
was the play caller in new orleans last year so if he's seattle's version of shahed wow
that can't be the number one beat the waiver wire guy like no way who would be who would be
Woody Marks
Woody Marks
I'd rather
carry Horton
for one week
and see what
really?
I like Marks
all right
you know what
I'm all right
I think it's going
If we're going
that route
I'd rather have
Deontate Thornton
Okay
Nope
I'd rather Fortin
than Thornton
But both over
Kyle Orden
Thank you Dr. Seuss
We will
Oh wait
Why are people saying
I'm clueless
That's not nice
Adam is clueless
What did Ben say?
Saints are a completely different team.
Yeah, no, I know they're a completely different team.
But the fact, but Olava and Shaheed are the same people.
I haven't given them a DNA test, but they're the same people they were last year.
When they were on the field, Shaheed was out targeting him.
What does 23 and me say about who I should start this week?
No, but to their point, it's a different offense.
It's, they definitely upgraded a play caller with Kellan Moore.
I just don't know.
if he's got enough toys to make it work
and to put up a lot of points.
This is more of a PPR thing and a volume thing for me
on why these guys are interesting.
Olavi and Shaheed are interesting.
But it's still not going to be pretty
until they've got their quarterback situation figured out.
Yeah, look.
That might not be till next year.
I drafted.
I didn't draft Shaheed.
I drafted Olave.
I understand.
I still expect Alave to have more targets.
I'm just pointing out.
It didn't happen last year.
It could be close.
I do like the fact that Olave is playing in the slot.
Have a wonderful weekend.
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