Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC), D'Andre Swift Reaction, Big News (09/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts D'Andre Swift goes off for 175 rushing yards... on Thursday night! Sell high? Are we concerned about A.J. Brown or Alexander Mattison? After we review Vikings-Eagles we update you on the news and notes (10:50) with Puka Nacua dealing with an injury ... One Question for Each Game (21:45)! Can you trust Garrett Wilson this week? Rachaad White? Daniel Jones? Then we've got Beat the Waiver Wire (28:40) as we try to give you a head start on Week 3 waivers ... Start or Sit for Jets-Cowboys (30:25), Bears-Bucs (35:35), Packers-Falcons (42:55), Seahawks-Lions (50:35), Saints-Panthers (1:01:10), 49ers-Rams (1:06:15) and Giants-Cardinals (1:13:10) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Starting week two off with a bonanza, dare I say. Unfortunately, a lot of that production on fantasy benches. Kirk Cousins, 36.6 fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown league started in 52% of leagues.
Starting point is 00:02:12 DeAndre Swift started in 46% of leagues. At least he's rostered almost everywhere. And DeAndre Swift scored 27.1 points. And I think he was a combined yard away from maybe having the best week of any running back all season because he almost had two more touchdowns. But wow, what a performance from DeAndre Swift. 175 rushing yards, a touchdown, six receiving yards on three catches as well. Welcome to a Friday show. Happy Friday, everybody. Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, and Dave Richard here.
Starting point is 00:02:42 We have seven NFC home games to get to. But let's start with the Eagles, 34. The Vikings, 28. The Eagles had the ball for more than 39 minutes. And it was the DeAndre Swift show. Of course, Boston Scott left with a concussion. But Dave, what the heck do we make of this? I did a Twitter poll.
Starting point is 00:03:01 DeAndre Swift or Damian Pierce? And almost 1,500 votes, 57% say DeAndre Swifter, Damian Pierce, and almost 1500 votes. 57% say DeAndre Swift. They're very high right now on Swift. Are you a lot of recency bias? And for good reason, he played really well. I thought the offensive line played really well. Kind of exposed that Vikings defensive line.
Starting point is 00:03:18 They got pushed around quite a bit, but it wasn't all because of the offensive line. Swift was fast. He had great vision. Just explosive. It'd be ridiculous for Philadelphia to not use on a weekly basis. He's too good of a player. Now, in saying that, he played 75% of the snaps. It was only the fourth time in the Nick Sirianni era where a running back had at least 70% of the snaps in a game.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So it's a little out of character for Philadelphia to give that much work to DeAndre Swift. I would say that it was because he had a hot hand. If I've got him in fantasy, if someone wants to offer me the moon for him, absolutely. I will take that in a heartbeat. I will try a little bit to sell high on him, but I don't expect to get much luck because people are going to remember what the deal is with DeAndre Swift. So I'm going to keep them for the time being. And I'm probably going to use DeAndre Swift every week as a starter until he gets hurt or until he sucks for a couple of weeks. How about that Twitter poll? Would you rather have Swift or Damian Pierce?
Starting point is 00:04:19 I don't want to get caught up in the recency bias, so I'll say Swift. Jamie, how are you feeling about DeAndre Swift in the Eagles' backfield? I mean, there's a wild card to all this, and the guy who started last week wasn't there. So I can't imagine that they go back to Gainwell as the lead guy, or at least not making it more of a committee because of what Nick Sirianni said after last week. So I would much rather have Pierce still. And I think from what, you know, your takeaway from this as the coach of the team is there's one guy that's got a different gear. You know, so, you know, DeAndre Swift should be the guy,
Starting point is 00:04:57 but is he going to be this guy? And this may be his best game. So I would absolutely be selling high on DeAndre Swift for sure. Because, again, you know, we don't know how long Gainwell's out. It might've just been short week. They couldn't get him ready to go, but injury history still crowded backfield. It, it, it should be a lot less crowded because Rashad Penny, I don't know if he stays on the team. He's definitely not going to be a, uh, an active member. We got our answer from everybody and everybody's there, but, um, you know, they, they, they were very high on gain while all offseason they were very high on him clearly in week one and so he's not going to just disappear because of what deandre swift did okay so how about swift or madison people are
Starting point is 00:05:36 pretty pretty upset with madison understandably so he's had a pretty bad start to the year 19 carries for 62 yards i I think, in two games. Who would you rather have? Because the schedule gets better for Madison. Yeah, and you've got to hope the offensive line gets better for Madison. Losing Bradbury for the game, losing Derrissaw during the game, that's clearly a big issue. You can't put it all
Starting point is 00:05:58 on him. The fumble's terrible. Two fumbles. Two fumbles, yeah. I should probably still take Madison. I think I'd rather have Pierce than Madison. Well, I mean, I don't know if I really feel like I want Swift over Pierce rest of season. I was I'm just I'm excited about what I saw from Swift. And I'd be shocked if the Eagles went back to giving them 30 percent of the snaps when Gainwell's healthy. We don't
Starting point is 00:06:26 know when Gainwell's going to be healthy. I'll rank them. I'm nervous about Madison losing the gig, man. Here it is. Pierce, Swift, Madison. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. It's not like Ty Chandler is getting much of a chance yet. He had a few opportunities, and he even had some pass-blocking opportunities, and I think he did okay with them. Well, Madison, I think the Eagles might just be like the 49ers and the Ravens, where you're just really not going to want to start
Starting point is 00:07:00 a running back against them unless it's a true stud. So this was a very tough matchup. Chargers next week, Panthers, Chiefs after that, Bears. Hopefully he didn't lose his job. That's the only thing. It's the two fumbles. Like I said, only one in the box score. One he lost didn't count because there was a penalty.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Let's talk about the Eagles passing him. If you didn't watch it, Minnesota just played a defense that they were just trying to take away the passing game, playing back. And the Eagles, it took them a little while. And they just said, OK, watch this. And they just handed the ball off. And they controlled time of possession. And DeAndre, I mean, I don't even know how many yards they ended up running for when you combine Hurts and Swift.
Starting point is 00:07:39 But people were a little upset with the A.J. Brown performance. He had just 29 yards. A.J. Brown was upset with the A.J. Brown performance. He had just 29 years. A.J. Brown was upset with the A.J. Brown performance. Yeah. He had a long touchdown call back. But would you guys, at this point, do you think Devontae Smith is the number one fantasy receiver for the Eagles? And do you think we should be buying low anywhere we can on A.J. Brown? And Dallas Goddard.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I think there's going to be better days ahead for both those guys. So, yes, you should be making – like if you could turn Deandre Swift into AJ Brown, that's the best move you could possibly do. You know, somebody that needs a running back and you know, the AJ Brown manager is frustrated there. There's a squeaky wheel game coming, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:14 so that there, they have too many goals ahead to have this, you know, start to unravel as it appeared to be doing on, on the sidelines. And I think if you saw what Jalen Hurd said, it's good to be a work in progress with 10 days sitting on two wins. So they'll get this figured out, and he's going to have a lot of big days.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So, you know, is it probably more of a co-ones, one and one A, than it was a one and a two? I don't know how many people thought that A.J. Brown was that much better than Devontae Smith. We weren't drafting it that way. They were both second-round picks for the majority of drafts. So, I mean, Smith had more catches than him last year. So that's not a huge stretch to say Devontae Smith
Starting point is 00:08:55 may be the better fantasy receiver. I hope it's not because you're still taking Brown first. But yeah, you should absolutely be making low-ball offers for A.J. Brown if somebody's frustrated. Okay. And Jalen Hurts didn't have an amazing game throwing the – actually, you know what? It ended up being pretty good because he connected on that deep ball with Smith.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It got off to a slow start, I'd say, through the interception, but he ends up with 27.2 fantasy points, and twice DeAndre Swift gets tackled just short of the goal line, and they push Jalen Hurts in. I think I saw today he has 10 QB sneak touchdowns in the last, I guess since the start of last year, I think. I hope I had that stat right. I'll look it up.
Starting point is 00:09:34 If you want, I can look it up. That's all right. I know where it is. I think they really love that play where there's one yard to go. I think the offensive line is all hyped up for it. It works every time. I think they've only been stuck once. I think they would like it where there's one yard to go. I think like the offensive line is all hyped up for it. And it seems unstoppable. I think they've only been stopped once. I think they wouldn't like it where there's one yard to go.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, well, of course. But like sometimes that yard is hard to get for teams. But Philadelphia has figured it out. They go full rugby-style scrum. And they get it 90% of the time, 95% of the time. I think even more than that. It's crazy. Do you want me to look this up?
Starting point is 00:10:02 No, I got it. I told you I got it. It's from ESPN. Jalen Hurts, including the playoffs, has 10 rushing touchdowns on QB sneaks since the start of last season, seven more than any other quarterback. Jamie, any other thoughts on the Vikings?
Starting point is 00:10:16 You know, Jordan Addison, once again, relies on a deep touchdown to get his numbers, but that's a pretty good start to a career. Your thoughts on the Vikings? Cousins with another big game? a little disappointed in the Eagle defense, you know, again, missing some guys in the secondary, but, uh, the pass rush was not what I expected. I thought they'd put a little bit more pressure on cousins. So yeah, I gave him credit. He was awesome. Uh, again, a lot of it coming late in the game, but still, um,
Starting point is 00:10:40 and Addison, look, he's, you know, certainly a must-start guy in three receiver leagues and pushing his way into becoming a must-start guy in two receiver leagues, which is awesome. Justin Jefferson's awesome. TJ Hawkinson's awesome. You know, so the run game is what it is. If I'm Minnesota at this point, I might consider trading Kirk Cousins to the Jets and maybe taking for Caleb Williams because you got all these guys you got to pay and getting a quarterback on a rookie deal while you're 0-2,
Starting point is 00:11:03 maybe getting some capital for Kirk Cousins if they don't want to bring him back, that might be something they should consider. All right. And would you rather have Jordan Addison or DeAndre Swift the rest of the season? Addison. Addison.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Okay. Because the deep plays are great. Eventually, he will start. He still isn't a full-time player yet. And so once he's playing 80 90 percent of the snaps you'll see him get more work in the intermediate range and short range he's going to be outstanding sunday is going to be outstanding we'll be answering your questions on twitter with the hashtag i'm sorry everybody i'm really not feeling great uh what a hashtag. Hashtag cough. Hashtag ask FFT.
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Starting point is 00:12:21 YouTube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. News and notes. All right, Jamie, I'll give you the Ravens tight end situation. Mark Andrews, are you ranking him right now at Cincinnati? We are not, but I hope to be. It sounds like he's trending in the right direction, but
Starting point is 00:12:38 keep in mind he practiced a little bit last week also before they decided to shut him down for that week one game against Houston. If he starts, you start him. If he doesn't, you don't play Isaiah likely anymore. That's a good idea. Dave, Travis Kelsey, are we ranking him? Same story as Andrews.
Starting point is 00:12:55 We're not ranking him yet. That's the game of the week. Chiefs and the Jaguars. I almost forgot who they were playing. But that's the game of the week. Hey! It's your game of the week and you don't know who they're playing? I got so caught up in the fun of it that I was like, wait a second, are they playing again?
Starting point is 00:13:14 I didn't even know that set up this time. I forgot about it until just before kickoff, just before game time today, or the show time. All right, sorry, Dave. Are we ranking Travis Kelsey? Yeah, not yet. Same story as Mark Andrews. We are waiting until we get a better word from the Chiefs. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Hopefully he plays. Do you start him if he plays? Hmm. Yeah. All right, Austin Eckler mispracticed. So Josh Kelly still looking like a possible start here at Tennessee. Are we thinking Josh Kelly or Jamal Williams? I would probably lean toward Williams,
Starting point is 00:13:59 but Kendra Miller's return could be a little bit of a problem for Jamal Williams if, in fact, they decide to maybe get a little bit more juice in their backfield. So that matchup, though, is just so bad for Kelly. Yeah, Tennessee's good. But he's going to get a lot of work. The question is, is how much work in the pass game will they give him? You would expect, like, 50% at the worst of Austin Eckler. Rostered in 77% of CBS leagues.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So your smaller 10-team leagues, make sure that if he's on the waiver wire, don't let him stay there. Get him on your bench. Raiders are at Buffalo. Devontae Adams returned to practice. Jacoby Myers missed practice. But a big injury note is in the Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:14:40 another Tennessee Chargers note here is DeAndre Hopkins has not practiced. So we'll see if he gets in a limited practice on Friday. That would be very encouraging. There was some site, I forget what it was, hinting that it might be a high ankle sprain for him. Ooh, that would not be good. That I don't have in front of me, I'll tell you. But Traylon Brooks should be added everywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:05 55% rostered. Yeah, go get him. I'll just ask because he had a better game, but Nick Westbrook-Akina, any interest? Deepest of leagues. Yeah. All right, Traylon Burks, I was going to mention him. And Diego Conco would have a boost.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah. Of course. They got the Chargers this week, the Browns and the Bengals after that. Puka Nakua. Oh, no. Puka Nakua has an oblique injury. We want to see an encore. Puka Nakua for week two.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Puka, not Kula, Jamie. His fantasy value might turn to Puka. But what about Tutu Atwell Foley? Those Beverly Hills. Atwell Axwell Foley? Those Beverly Hills... Atwell Axel Foley. That one's not so great. Yeah, I think it was a team name of mine. I don't know if I'm excited about a single Ram
Starting point is 00:15:54 this week against San Francisco. He's 42% rostered Atwell. Had a huge game, over 100 yards in week one. So just to throw it out there, Burks would be a bigger priority for you. I would say so. The nice thing about what's going on in the Rams' offense
Starting point is 00:16:12 is that Stafford's playing great. I don't think he'll have the same type of game against San Francisco as he had against Seattle. So I don't think 2-2 will do at well. The one thing that's interesting, I saw Jacob Gibbs tweeting about this and Dan Schneier as well. And you're seeing a lot of people, you know, just looking at all the pre-snap motion for receivers and how that's translating into production.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And I believe that Tutu, if I'm not mistaken, I think you check out Jacob's Twitter account, ex-account. He was second in terms of pre-snap motion behind only Tyreek Hill. So they're trying to get him. And I was listening to Greg Cosell on Colin Cowher's radio show. And if you don't know Greg Cosell, he's fantastic, breaking down film. And he was saying that when these guys are – these speed guys are getting in motion, which is why you're going to start to see a lot of teams doing it, that they're just on defenders so quickly.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yep. It's so, so much of a mismatch problem. And so, you know, at well can fly. And so not somebody that I would start this week, but more intrigued by him moving forward.
Starting point is 00:17:18 If this is going to be the role that he plays, because when Cooper cup comes back, that might eat and eat more into Puka than it might me to Atwell. And their next few games at Cincinnati, at Indy, Philadelphia, we'll see how healthy their secondary is, and then Arizona at home, Pittsburgh at home, then at Dallas. That's not so good. There could be some weeks where Atwell can be pretty good. And then if Puka plays, he could be very, very good.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And Stafford can be very good. Yeah. And I don't have his numbers in front of me for previous seasons, but Atwell had a 15.75-yard ADOT, which is not really sustainable to be thinking you're going to have a lot of catches. But he had a 7.82 yard route depth so he was running shorter routes like that's lower than nakua for example uh that was in week one that was in week one so that's actually encouraging because you want him to run some shorter routes
Starting point is 00:18:13 and i wonder if that includes any like pop passes or screens that he had like sometimes that's not just the catches though it's the routes right no i know but he also if he's catching those types of routes then he's running those types of routes, then he's running those types of routes when he's not targeted. Right, but that's a big difference between his ADOT and his route depth. So I think the point is I don't really trust the guy with a 16-yard ADOT to be consistent unless it's like Mike Evans or something. But he could have a lower ADOT going forward
Starting point is 00:18:40 if they throw to him on shorter routes. If that were Tyreek's ADOT, we wouldn't bat an eyelash. Exactly. I've learned to not really look into route depth as a meaningful stat. Christian Watson and Aaron Jones both mispracticed, but linebacker Quay Walker was limited. Jerry Judy practiced in full.
Starting point is 00:18:57 That is great news. Is he a top 24 guy for you this week, Jerry Judy? No. I would take a little bit of a cautious approach just because we've seen it, or we saw at least one week with Terry McLaurin. There might be a little bit of
Starting point is 00:19:11 a shake off the rust performance for him. It's really more of, if you need a starter in a three-year Super League, okay, I'd take a chance on that. Big downgrade though for Courtland Sutton. He still may play well, but you just can't yeah have any high expectations for him i think words out that there could be a snap count on judy
Starting point is 00:19:29 really yeah it's his first game back from hamstring we talked about this when he got hurt that when when he initially got hurt we thought he'd miss more time than he's gonna miss but that first game back you figure you can't really use him then anyway. Yeah. Well, remember when Jaleel McLaughlin was going to have a big role in week one? You got one carry. You're saying it again. Sean Payton said it again this week.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Okay. Brandon Cook's mispractice. He is a slightly sprained MCL. He has not been ruled out, Brandon Cook's, against the Jets. But Traylon Burks, Tutu Atwell, Michael Gallup. How does Gallup rank in terms of, hey, let's pick this guy up and see what happens?
Starting point is 00:20:08 I like it. I think it's good for him. I think it's good for Jake Ferguson. And you just, I don't know if you don't start Gallup unless you're desperate. And you start Ferguson if you want a tight end that's got some upside. But if Cooks is out, it changes the offense quite a bit, and it gives more opportunities to those guys.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Did Cooks practice? Yeah. I think he was limited. No, no, he missed practice. He missed from what I see. It's a slight MCL sprain, so he's optimistic, but we'll see. Just a few more notes here. Giants left tackle Andrew Thomas was limited in practice.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Darren Waller's downplaying his hamstring injury. But I don't think a lot of people that aren't Darren Waller are downplaying his hamstring injury. He says he's playing, so you're starting him. No, he's playing, but it's week two, and he's already dealing with this. So I'm just wondering if he can get through this season. Houston's two safeties still missing practice.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Jimmy Ward and Jalen Petrie. Joey Bosa, Chargers edge rusher. He missed practice with a hamstring injury. Devontae Parker was limited. Carolina lost their left guard, Brady Christensen, for the season and J.C. Horn for a while. They're starting cornerback. Tampa Bay could be without Carlton Davis,
Starting point is 00:21:25 starting corner, and defensive lineman Kalijah Cancy, first-round pick. He mispracticed. DJ Chark was limited. He's barely rostered. And Chicago cornerback Kyler Gordon is on IR. And big news,
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Starting point is 00:23:06 All right, Jets are at the Cowboys. I have a good song for NSYNC. Yeah, what's that? Gotta go bye. Gotta go bye, bye, bye. I was looking at the NSYNC schedule and they have three straight byes. Jets at Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Is anyone other than Pollard and Lamb in this game? Not that you feel great about. No. Yeah, I don't even feel great about Dak. Don't feel I mentioned Ferguson. He's a waiver wire tight end, a better stash than start. And then you get to the Jets. And I know everybody's excited about Brees Hall,
Starting point is 00:23:43 but you don't know how much work he's going to get. It should be more than last week, but I don't know if it'll be much more, and the matchup is so hard. It is going to be so tough. That Cowboys defense looked amazing in week one, and I expect them to continue to look good against the Jets. They were okay. Next game, Chicago at Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Can you trust a running back in this game yes I would trust Rashad White it's a good matchup a lot of work last week too he just stinks he's just not great if I'm counting on Rashad White
Starting point is 00:24:20 I've said this before get Sean Tucker on your bench please that guy could end up being the Bucs' best running back this year. I am concerned that I'll never feel comfortable starting Khalil Herbert. We'll see how it works. They got blown out last week. I have, again, sneaking suspicion on my part that we see more Roshon Johnson this week
Starting point is 00:24:44 because he's a better pass protector. And the Bears need – they're going to need that for fields. I think they've got to get fields going downfield. And I think Roshon is on the field more, and that leads to more work. Another player, very shallow leagues. He's out there. Stash him. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Green Bay at Atlanta. Sorry. How much do you like A.J. Dillon if Aaron Jones doesn't play? Top 20 running back. But barely. I think Atlanta's defense is good. I don't know how good A.J. Dillon is. It's just an opportunity for him to get a good amount of work
Starting point is 00:25:21 and to potentially score. So low-end number two running back for me. He'll be involved in the passing game. And we've seen that in the past. That's when his numbers have certainly been better and playing behind one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. So they'll lean on him quite a bit. So this is the hypothetical of if Aaron Jones is out,
Starting point is 00:25:36 but so if we had, let's say three replacement running backs still count Jamal Williams going up against Carolina, potentially Josh Kelly against Tennessee, and A.J. Dillon against Atlanta. Who's your favorite in that group in this hypothetical? If Kendrick Miller plays,
Starting point is 00:25:54 it would be A.J. Dillon. If Miller is out, it would be Williams. And Kelly would be third. Yeah, that's how I feel. Probably all pretty close, though, I would imagine. Yes. Seattle at Detroit. Are we going to get a bounce back from the seahawks passing game uh modest i mean look tyler lockett leaving the game didn't help in week one and you probably had some rust for jsn after dealing with the wrist injury but not having the tackles there
Starting point is 00:26:24 is going to be such a problem for them i mean they're they're talking about starting 41 year old jason peters has just signed this week three days ago you know so i i know it was a different situation when you talk about the kansas city receivers and what patrick mahomes had to overcome but they made patrick mahomes work for that and're going to make the Seahawks work for their numbers. So you're still starting Metcalf for sure, and you're probably still starting Lockett as a low-end number two receiver. I'd still wait a little bit on JSN unless you're in a three-receiver league
Starting point is 00:26:56 and you're stuck, but I don't like Geno this week at all. I think we're going to see some turnovers from him, and I think he's going to get sacked and hit quite a bit. That's always been his Achilles heel is pressure. And it was in week one too. And so if he's going to take on a lot of pressure, then you probably shouldn't start him. I haven't ranked 12th right now. And I, I really have gone back and forth between him and Watson and Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And I think making the case for Daniel Jones, it's actually going to be a lot easier than making the case for Gino Smith. I would start Russell Wilson and Brock Purdy over Gino Smith this week. Wow. Okay. Oh, we got to explore that a little bit more. I know. Yeah. The tackles are bad, but it's so interesting. You know, this is one of the hardest things to figure out is how much is that going to impact a player? Teron Armstead was out last week to, it was the number one quarterback. Look at the Vikings offensive line. We didn't even mention it. Not only did Darasol, I don't even think he played. He was out. No, he got hurt during pregame warmups after the inactives were handed.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So they didn't have their center. They didn't have their left tackle. The guy who replaced them at left tackle left with an injury. And Kirk Cousins scored 36 points. So, you know, it's kind of, but then there's also, we've also seen games where a player has been completely taken out because of his horrible offensive line play i don't i can't remember any off the top of my head oh wait yes i can daniel jones last week but you know it is a difficult thing to figure out in fantasy sometimes uh all right three more games real quick here one question new orleans at carolina miles sanders or jamal williams sanders san franc Francisco at the Rams. Is it start all Niners, sit all Rams?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah, we're done with that. Especially if Puka's not there. But what about Atwell and Higby if Puka's not there? I mean, they're not... I wouldn't start Atwell. I just want to have Atwell on my bench if I can, and I need to see what happens for a second game. Higby is kind of in the...
Starting point is 00:28:44 What does Heath say? the tight end bucket? Yeah. You know, if you have him and he's your only option, like you don't want to pivot to Adam Troutman or Hunter Henry or those guys, you stick with it because he'll probably still get a handful of targets, but it's not going to be pretty. At least they did give up a touchdown to a tight end last week,
Starting point is 00:29:01 the 49ers did with Pat Fryer move, so maybe he finds the end zone. I'll happily start Hunter Henryry over higby okay giants at cardinals starter sit daniel jones and stat of the game for that game is jones played six opponents who were bottom 10 against quarterbacks so six good matchups last year he scored 20 or more fantasy points in all six of them. Starter sit Daniel Jones. The case for him is a much easier matchup, obviously. And hopefully that offensive line does a better job protecting him. The right side was a mess. And then Andrew Thomas, it looks like he's going to try and play, but he's frozen.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Dave starter sit Daniel Jones, Jamie. Yeah, you start him. I i mean you're savvy enough to work around it what you froze so i did yeah it was well said ah it's the top 12 he's right on the cusp of top 12 for you guys he is i agree and he is uh look the the one positive from last week one of five quarterbacks to run for 40 yards. So he'll still do that and hopefully be better as a passer, be better protected. It's a bounce-back game for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Let's beat the waiver wire. Getting ahead of week three's waiver wire. DJ Chark is 20% rostered. You can take a look at him. Great name. Michael Gallup, Traylon Burks, the replacements we've already talked about, Tutu Atwell.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Josh Reynolds again. Okay. What's his roster? Chiefs guys. I'll look up Reynolds in a second, but Reynolds, I'll look it up right now. Reynolds is 16% rostered? Really?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yep. That's hard for me to believe. I think I am the 16%. I have a lot of Josh Reynolds. Very super competitive, 14-team, triple-flex PPR league with other guys in the industry. I spent 14 fab to get Reynolds. I got him.
Starting point is 00:30:54 No one else put in a bid. Now, four or five weeks from now, this comment will look silly, but I think that he's worth it. He's going to play a lot. Goff trusts him. I think if you're really in a pinch, the 12 PPR points that he got you last week is something he could do consistently. There are a lot of
Starting point is 00:31:11 wide receivers. McKendrick Bourne, 63%. Zay Jones, 55%. What do you guys think about a Chiefs receiver? Moore is 68%. Tony, 67% rostered. Rasheed Rice, 29%. They get the Bears next week. Who would you stash?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Tony. Okay. Sean Tucker, Tajay Spears, Zach Moss, Jerome Ford. These are all handcuffs for Moss. Moss might start. Moss is rostered in just slightly fewer leagues than Deion Jackson right now. So we think that's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's a good flip, too, to get Zach Moss. If he's active, I don't know how the Colts go back to Deion Jackson at this point. Let's go to the games. Jets are at the Cowboys. Very interesting fantasy matchups here. Brees Hall or Garrett Wilson this week? Wilson. I'll take Wilson.
Starting point is 00:32:10 How do you guys feel in general about Garrett Wilson and this matchup? The quarterback's terrible. So he's got to show a lot. And this is not exactly the easiest matchup for him to show a lot. What you're going to see from the Jets is they're going to lean on their run game which may or may not have success i would lean toward probably not having huge success and just try and keep the game close and give dan give uh uh zach wilson some manageable third down situations and when it's third and long you know you'll you'll see a lot of draws and screens and things that are trying to not put him in scenarios
Starting point is 00:32:46 that he's going to turn the ball over. They're both going to be frustrating. If there was no Dalvin Cook, I wouldn't care. I'd still start Brees Hall, but the fact that he'll still share in this matchup just makes it a little tough to trust.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The thing about the Cowboys is if they had a weakness last year, it was probably their run defense. Actually, late in the year, they lost their number two cornerback, and then they actually just weren't really that tough of a matchup. They're not amazing against the run, at least I don't think so. They weren't last year. Week one was
Starting point is 00:33:17 whatever. The Jets are going to run the ball a lot. Brees Hall is just so good. So, no, we talked about those replacement running backs. You'd start all of them over Brees Hall? Yeah. If they had the gig?
Starting point is 00:33:34 We're talking about Jamal Williams. Kelly and Dylan in that hypothetical? I think so. The one that gives me pause is Kelly, but I think he'd just get enough work to go ahead of Hall. All right. By the way, stat of the game, the frozen margarita machine originated in Dallas,
Starting point is 00:33:51 according to Redfin. The frozen internet machine is in my office. Zach or Dak in this game? Just kidding. But sit, Dak. Yeah, you know, it's like we keep focusing on the Cowboys defense the Jets defense is obviously great too you know and
Starting point is 00:34:10 they're going to make things uncomfortable for the Cowboys so you know you got Sask Gardner most likely going to see a lot of time on CD Lamb and even if he's not the other corners are still really good so Dak's going to be under duress this just feels like a slugfest you know and the edge should go to the home team and the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But I don't think there's going to be a ton of fantasy production here. You're not benching Lamb. You're not benching Pollard. But you might not get the typical, usual type of production for those guys. Well, we saw it with Diggs last week. They moved him all over the place to get him away from Sauce Gardner, including on that game-tying drive at the end of regulation. Just move your cornerback around, man.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But that's a good thing, is that Gardner doesn't leave his post as the left cornerback. So they can get Lamb lined up on other guys. So you said are good, but they're not Sauce Gardner. Garrett Wilson is...
Starting point is 00:35:03 I don't have his ranking in front of me. As I recall, I feel like one of you is a lot higher on Garrett Wilson is I don't have his ranking in front of me as I recall I feel like one of you is a lot higher on Garrett Wilson must be he's definitely not me Heath has him 22nd Jamie 29th Dave 32nd so I see Christian Kirk ahead of Garrett Wilson
Starting point is 00:35:19 I see Nico Collins for Dave not for Jamie I'll hit refresh Gabe Davis I see Nico Collins for Dave, not for Jamie. No, I updated this morning. Okay. I'll hit refresh. Gabe Davis. You saw Jordan Addison ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yep. It's just, you've got to be nervous about him with Zach Wilson. They averaged 8.6 PPR points per game together last year. Last week was nice, but it took Wilson making a huge play. Chris Towers talked about it on our live stream yesterday. It wasn't nice. You're being generous. That wasn't nice.
Starting point is 00:35:52 He got lucky. Yeah. That's a five for 34 day. Four for 34 day. No, four for 32 day. Yeah. It's five targets for Wilson and they will be run heavy. But you guys have him ranked as not even a top 30 receiver now.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So, but you do think he's a top 30 receiver rest of season. So part of it is the matchup, right? So we could say, by low if he struggles in this game on Wilson. Yeah. It by low if he struggles. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. Yeah. But you're not buying, you're buying him as if he's a fourth round pick, not a second round pick. Sure.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah. Okay. All right. Now let's go to our next game. Chicago. Oh, by the way, if he does surprise us and has a big game sell high, which DST do you prefer?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Which, yeah. Which DST do you prefer? Cowboys. Cowboys. And do you get one playing Zach Wilson? you prefer? Cowboys. Cowboys. The one playing Zach Wilson. Do you get away from the Jets this week?
Starting point is 00:36:49 Try to keep them on your bench, maybe? No. I wouldn't cut them. I'd start them as a low-end option. Yeah. They struggled last year
Starting point is 00:36:58 against good offenses. They struggled badly. They just took on a really good offense in week one. And they were amazing. Chicago at Tampa Bay. Stat of the game that may not matter
Starting point is 00:37:09 because most of it occurred in 2022, but some of it occurred in week one. Going back to last year, the Bucs have now allowed 98 yards or a touchdown to 12 wide receivers in their last six games. And in week one, it was Jefferson and Addison and they could be without Carlton Davis. So the last five games of last year and week one, the bucks are a beautiful matchup for wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:37:35 DJ more or Garrett Wilson, more, more DJ more or Mike Davis, Mike Williams. Sorry, Mike Williams. I was thinking Gabe Davis davis and then i went mike williams williams over more for jamie how about you dave i've got more ahead of williams
Starting point is 00:37:52 dj more or jerry judy more all right so you guys like dj more a decent amount low end starter yep um going back to fields dave do you feel it's 11th? Is that accurate? I do. I saw him as a top 12 quarterback, hoping that he can turn week two into what week five and week six was last year, where he puts it all together and he starts to just play a little bit more free. Just so cautious last week. He's talked about it. He knows he needs to do better at it.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And I trust the Bears scheming him up in the red zone still. And he did have some great throws, man. The touchdown to Darnell Mooney was great. Mooney should be on that list. I don't know what his roster is. Yeah, but Mooney should be stashed in a couple of leagues because it looks like he's got that chemistry back with Mooney. Mooney.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's my Ferris Bueller. Rooney, but Mooney. Chicago running backs, who's your highest ranked? Herbert. Herbert for now. But we're going to sit him or what? I wouldn't play the Bears guys because not only do you have what's still a difficult matchup,
Starting point is 00:38:58 you have the potential of them splitting. All right. DJ Moore, we start Mooney, we stash Cole commit or Jake Ferguson. Who do you like this week? Uh, I like commit slightly better just because, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:14 both had the same amount of targets. I'd like to match up a little bit better for commit last week, you know, take it for what it's worth. Cause it was TJ Hawkinson, but the bucks allowed the most receptions to tight ends in week one. Yeah. This,
Starting point is 00:39:28 this will sound a little silly if there's no chase Claypool for the bears, if they make him inactive, I like commit better than Ferguson. Okay. If he's on the field, is he active? Sure. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:42 commit gives them that physical dimension. Claypool theoretically does too. If they're both on there, that's two guys they can go to with that. I should go back to Fields. I'm sorry, because he's not a top five quarterback for you. Dave's got him. I think I said 11th. It's 10th. Jamie, I think has him eighth. One spot ahead of Jared Goff for both of you. But is there any surprising quarterback that may have been drafted along with Justin Fields that you have ranked ahead of him this week? Mm-hmm. I got a question on the radio call. Yeah, the radio show this morning about Tua versus Fields. I'd play Tua. What about Richardson?
Starting point is 00:40:12 I would play Fields over Richardson. I've got Richardson a spot higher. Okay. Sit Baker, Mayfield. All right, so Rashad White. I mean, this is a big opportunity for him. The Bears stink defensively. Rashad White, you mean, this is a big opportunity for him. The Bears stink defensively. Rashad White, you guys have him 17th.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I'm going to move him down a little. Okay, to where? He'll be in the 20s, but a number two fantasy running back. So, Ken Walker, you're going to move him down? Dan Schneier's best friend, Rashad White. I don't know if we should. I thought it was Puka. I'm going to leave that.
Starting point is 00:40:50 No, I don't think it's... What do you think? Should I say what happened? No. Okay. Nothing bad. Nothing bad. Just makes you realize that I've actually tried to be better about this.
Starting point is 00:41:02 When we talk about football players, we're talking about people. So I don't want to be too harsh. But Rashad White had a bad game in week one. Dan broke it down on film, saw a play where he missed the hole really badly. So that gets out there on social, whatever. Nothing bad, though, what we're referring to. But we should be nice to these people.
Starting point is 00:41:20 They are human beings. We're playing and trying hard. Anyway... Did he complain about his credit score? What are you talking about? Nothing. So Ken Walker or Rashad White? Who would you start?
Starting point is 00:41:32 White. Walker. David Montgomery or Rashad White? Montgomery. Montgomery. No, I'm sorry. I take White and PPR. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:43 All right. Moving on. Rashad White and PPR. Okay. Alright, moving on. Rashad White or DJ Moore? Moore. Rashad White. Well, do you like the Tampa Bay wide receivers better than DJ Moore?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yes. Certainly Mike Evans. Evans, Moore, Godwin. Moore and Godwin are back-to-back. Okay. And no interest in Kate Otten, I assume? No. He's so scruffy and not nice to the touch.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I mean, it's interesting that Godwin and Evans, we're going to recommend them this week. It's a good start to the year for the Bucs, schedule-wise, getting the Vikings in week one and the Bears in week two. Any DSD in this game? What's the over-under on people that understood my reference there?
Starting point is 00:42:33 It's one and a half, with Adam being the one. Oh, actually, I just gave you a courtesy laugh. I had absolutely no idea what your reference was. It's your joke about Otten. What's my joke about Otten? The touch, the feel of Otten. Because when you take the first initial of his name,
Starting point is 00:42:52 it's C, add it to Otten, it's Cotton. The touch, the feel of Otten. Yep, I got you. It was so clever. Your joke was clever. Mine was painful. This is horrible. Can you say something now?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Sure. The Bucs are two and a half point favorites. Would you start the DSTs in this game? Not the Bears. Would you start the Bucs? Yes. Over the Jets. Oh, mamma mia.
Starting point is 00:43:13 How about a break? Let's take a break. When we come back, Green Bay is at Atlanta. Interesting game here. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Green Bay at Atlanta. Here's your stat of the game. So I already told you, the B Bucs going back to last season,
Starting point is 00:43:27 the last five games of 2022, the Bucs have been really bad against wide receivers. The Falcons, on the other hand, have been the exact opposite. From weeks 10 through 18, I may have given this stat last week, but it held true in week one against Carolina, for what it's worth. But from weeks 10 to 18 last year, only one wide receiver scored more than 13 fantasy points on receiving totals alone against the Falcons. That includes DJ Moore, Terry McLaurin, Deontay Johnson,
Starting point is 00:43:57 Chris Olave, Marquise Brown, Chris Godwin. They all had bad games against the Falcons. Week one, it was the Panthers, but they had bad games against the Falcons. Week one, it was the Panthers, but they had bad games against the Falcons as well. So I like Romeo Dobbs. I mean, he's pretty encouraged by last week playing half the snaps and scoring and whatnot. But do you guys like Romeo Dobbs this week?
Starting point is 00:44:19 I wouldn't get overexcited about him, but number three receiver, sure. He's in that same range as Garrett Wilson and Michael Thomas for me. I have to point out that this whole stat of the game thing and being good against receivers for the Falcons, it hasn't been the
Starting point is 00:44:35 best quarterbacks. There have been some good wide receivers, but really bad quarterback play that they've faced. All right. Jordan Love. Big game last week. He scored 29 points. He had the fifth highest intended air yards
Starting point is 00:44:48 per pass attempt, so he was throwing downfield. And yeah, start or sit Jordan Love? I would start him in two quarterback and super flex leagues. I would sit him in one quarterback leagues.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I would like to stash Jordan Love because I would like to see what Jordan Love looks like when Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, and Luke Musgrave are all healthy. I think this to stash Jordan love because I would like to see what Jordan love looks like when Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs and Luke Musgrave are all healthy. I think this is going to be an interesting test for him. I agree. You shouldn't start him in a one QB league.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And I love the idea of stashing them. But I think this Falcons defense is pretty good. I, I've been expecting love to have a worse game that he had in week one. And in week one, he was off target on 25% of his throws. Yeah. I'm not sure I'm there yet with the Falcons defense.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Got to prove it. Let's see how they do. Yeah. They were much better in this game, in their game last week than they were last season up front. Green Bay running. Yeah, they also played a rookie quarterback making his first start. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And a beat up offensive line. Yeah. It's going to be a fun game to watch for both sides, but I think it's a test for Jordan Love, I do. I don't think this is going to be a fun game. This feels like it's going to be a very low-scoring game. I hope not. Falcons, yeah, they're pretty boring, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:45:59 They're very boring. The Packers were exciting as heck last week. And let's hope Aaron Jones plays. You know what to do if he starts, and I think we've talked enough about A.J. Dillon. Romeo Dobbs is now 81% rostered. He's a top 36 guy for you two,
Starting point is 00:46:13 but just barely. And he did have two touchdowns last week at Chicago. So would you start Romeo Dobbs or Drake London? Dobbs. Dobbs. Dobbs. Yeah, we're going to start just about anyone over London, right?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Josh Reynolds over Drake London. Yep. Josh Reynolds over Romeo Dobbs? No. No, but they're close. Mm-hmm. All right, how do you feel about Algier? Can you start Tyler Algier?
Starting point is 00:46:43 He's a flex. I mean, look, the fact that he played 59% of the snaps and got as much work as he did, especially in the past game, I thought that was the most encouraging thing for him, not necessarily for Drake London and Kyle Pitts. But, yeah, he's not going away anytime soon. They're going to continue to lean on him, which sucks for Bijan Sealing, but they like him,
Starting point is 00:47:03 and he's going to play a role. Okay. Kyle Pitts? I'm playing George Maselli in one league, and he's starting both those guys against me. Oh. Legendary editor, George Maselli. Yeah. Legendary fantasy trader. He makes trades all the time. I love it.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Did you see his trade? The one with eight players? Yeah. I don't remember anything about it. It was too many players, but I read it on there. Well, he gave up Jamar Chase. He got back a haul, though. He got Devontae Smith. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Sorry. No problem. I made an eight-player trade. You're talking about... I didn't make it with George, though. Which league is that in? It was Jacob and George in the Magazine League. Ah, that's why I didn't hear about it. I'm not in that league. You're not in the Magazine League? Jacob and George in the Magazine League. Ah, that's why I didn't hear about it.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I'm not in that league. You're not in the Magazine League? I am not in the Magazine League. I was unavailable for that draft. Kyle Pitts, start or sit? Kyle sits. No, start him, right? Yeah, it's by the...
Starting point is 00:47:58 Who do you start over him and feel good about? Is that the first time anyone's made a Kyle sits reference? It's got to be the first time ever, right? I invented that. Plant your flag. I know what I want to say when he continues having terrible games. I just can't say it. Here was a trade. Jamar Chase,
Starting point is 00:48:17 Josh Reynolds, Mark Andrews, and Tyler Boyd for Devante Smith, Brandon Ayuk, Brees Hall, and Puka Nakua. That's a haul. I don't know what side wins.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I think it's the non-chase side that wins. I think so, too. He got four potential starters for two. Depends how you feel about Nakua. You're not saying Nakua's a potential starter. Nah, Nakua isn't that valuable.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I would say at this point, Nakua's got more value than Josh Reynolds. I get it. Can we make a Kalua team name with him? But anyway, Jacob traded for Nakua, and Jacob loves Puka Nakua. No, he traded away. Oh, he traded away Puka. Yes, he gave up three potential starting receivers if Nakua's going to be good,
Starting point is 00:49:10 along with Brandon Ayuk and Devante Smith and Breeze Hall to get to Mark Chase. And Mark Andrews. And Mark Andrews. It actually comes out to pretty close to even on the trade chart. Fun. Trades are the best. Make a trade.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Make a terrible trade. I don't care. Just make a trade make a terrible trade I don't care just make a trade give your league something to talk about let's talk about Dave's trade well tell me about Kyle Pitts is there anyone you're picking up to start over Kyle Pitts no nope not yet we're not there yet we're not there with Hayden
Starting point is 00:49:38 Hurst or any of the rookie tight ends not Hunter Henry oh I'm sorry thank you for saying Hayden Hurst because he had a big game last week. And I said all those nice things about the Falcons against wide receivers. The Falcons stink against tight ends. They stunk last year. They stunk in week one. So, yeah, Musgrave versus Ferguson, Higby.
Starting point is 00:50:01 How do you feel about them, Jamie? I would start Musgrave over both those guys. The only one that I like better of the guys we talked about is Komet, but he's right behind him. Yes, Ben, in the chat, I know plant your flag is someone else's bit. That's kind of the joke. I got called out for it a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Now it's like a thing. Dave's trade. We have a few more games left, but we can spend a minute on Dave's blockbuster trade. Go ahead, Dave's trade. I don't have have a few more games left, but we can spend a minute on Dave's blockbuster trade. Go ahead, Dave's trade. I don't have it in front of me. Dave traded. Ryan Robinson, Mark Andrews, Drake London, and Jordan Addison
Starting point is 00:50:34 and got back Calvin Ridley, Jacoby Myers, Jalen Warren, and George Kittle. I mean, it feels like a win because Andrews hasn't played. Andrews and Ridley were basically back-to-back in drafts. I think it's a win. It's a win. I like the other side better. Really? I liked it better until Addison had a big game last night.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Now it's like, I kind of wish I had that on my team. But I think I got the best player in the deal. You definitely got the best player. And I think Bryan Robinson is a sell high. Okay. Seattle is at Detroit. So Jamie is avoiding Gino Smith 19th, but Dave,
Starting point is 00:51:14 you're okay with him. You have him 12th. I've got him 12. I don't know if I can keep him ahead of Daniel Jones. I don't think I will. So it'll come down to Gino versus Deshaun. And I might end up taking Deshaun too over Gino Smith. So not a top 12 quarterback.
Starting point is 00:51:29 The offensive line worries me. I do plan on doing a little bit of research on who is replacing the both tackles. One of them got a good passing grade in replacement of Lucas last week. Stone Forsyth. Um, I don't know if he's going to be any good against this lion's pass rush the seahawks know what they've got they they can probably game plan around that a little bit so i'm not i'm not ready to rule out gino being a total disaster
Starting point is 00:51:55 wait you're not ready to rule out gino being good you said you're not right i'm like right in between yeah and that's why he's going to end up around 15 for me is because I can't say, well, he's going to totally suck. Get him out of your lineup. And I can't say, well, he's going to overcome these issues.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Go ahead and start him. Like there's not a lot of confidence either way. I want to ask you guys a question, but do me a favor. Let's not go on a huge tangent about it here, but how do you, how do you deal with moving guys ahead of Kirk Cousins that he's already, because you have Cousins, let's say around 15th and let's say you had a guy behind him
Starting point is 00:52:33 that you wanted to boost up in the rankings, or you had a guy below him that you want to move behind Cousins now because a wide receiver went out or something like that, you know, and you don't want people to be like, Oh, and now of course now you have him behind Cousins, but on Thursday, how do you deal with that? How does that work? I don't, I don't even worry about it because I think I've always said like, we should remove the Thursday night guys after they play from our rankings. So, you know, the only, the only people that care about that are the people that judge rankings,
Starting point is 00:52:58 you know? So I don't know about you, Dave. I never turned my rankings into fantasy pros, for example. No, me neither. So like, I don't care. Um, my, my, my job is to tell you where I think this guy should be ranked as of the moment that I'm ranking him. So if, if, if, for example, um, try, I think somebody I have ranked ahead of cousins, let's say, uh, Michael Pittman got the flu and he wasn't playing this week and I wanted to move Anthony Richardson below cousins.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I'm moving Anthony Richardson below cousins. Right. So unforeseen circumstances or change, maybe unforeseen isn't the right word. Changing circumstances will make me do the exact same thing. But if circumstances really don't change, then the farthest I will move Gino down is to 14. I will not move him below cousins, even if I think he's going to absolutely suck.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Because it's unfair to the people who looked at the rankings and already started Cousins this week. It's the same reason why you'll see people ranked behind Rashad Penny, who I would love to put ahead of Rashad Penny. But how about this example? Austin Eckler doesn't play. Josh Kelly plays. Josh Kelly is getting ranked ahead of pretty much anybody in that Thursday night game. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Thank you for that insight. This is a tough game, I think, because, you know. Well, in 2010, I once moved. No. Yeah. All right. So this, I think this is an interesting game. I mean, like you got, you got the wide receivers for Seattle.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And so who do you like better? The Bucs receivers or the Seahawks receivers? Let's not include JSN, because I know we want to be cautious with him. But the top two Bucs or the top two Seahawks? It's a great question, because I don't— Right now I have Metcalf ranked higher. I should probably adjust that and move Metcalf down behind Evans. So I probably would go Evans. I will adjust this. So Evans, Metcalf, Godwin, Lockett.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I currently have Metcalf at the top. Metcalf, Evans, Godwin, Lockett, two spots behind Godwin. This Lions defense is going to be one of the better ones in the league. I mean, the way that they're getting after quarterbacks right now, that's the problem. And I think the secondary is going to be improved. This is going to be an issue. I mean, the way that they're getting after quarterbacks right now, that's the problem. And I think the secondary is going to be improved. This is going to be an issue. And look, he was bad last week against the Rams,
Starting point is 00:55:12 and we don't have a lot of high expectations for the Rams, and that was at home. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, Trayvon Walker over Aiden Hutchinson. Going to go down as one of the worst ever, I think. But who's the best running back in this game? Oh,
Starting point is 00:55:28 Gibbs. Yeah. I like both Lions running backs over Walker. I have Walker and Montgomery back-to-back. Top 20 guys, though? Roughly? Yes, all three. Walker, just outside. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Ken Walker did run the most routes by far among the running backs he played the most third down snaps there's only five they didn't have the ball that much but he dominated basically everything though he just wasn't on the two minute drills but it was a good usage week for Walker
Starting point is 00:55:59 so like why and again you know I talked about this going into the Chiefs game the Lions run defense really turned around and became freaking dominant against running backs late last year, except for one game against Carolina. They did a very nice job against Pacheco and the Chiefs guys, but I don't know, why shouldn't I be excited about Ken Walker right now? Because exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Lions defense. And they just lost two tackles. I mean, there's not a lot working in his favor. Except that he's in week one at least he was the lead running back with very little competition. Oh, that's for sure. You can't trust Charbonnet. But my gosh,
Starting point is 00:56:35 if this is going to be this defense carrying over from one year to the next and maybe getting better and then now facing a team that just lost two key pieces on its offensive line. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It just feels like a rough game. Like I love the lines DST this week. The offensive line is the biggest issue for me. I'm, I'm not sure I I'm sold on the lines pass rush. And I, I think I like the secondary. I'm not sold yet on the run defense.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Jared golf is the start of the week and that's really interesting, Dave, though, because the secondary is what was terrible last year. I know, but getting Garner Johnson has made just a huge difference and they kind of retooled their secondary. They've got new players in there.
Starting point is 00:57:20 All right. Sorry for the detour here. It's okay. I think that the secondary benefits from the pass rush, too. to really it all starts up front for Detroit. Jared Goff is 10th for Jamie, 11th for Dave. He's the benefit of the doubt that'll bounce back. But I forgot about this, that we saw Jared Goff, granted TJ Hawkinson was a monster. He did what he did last year against the Seahawks, 41 fantasy points without Amon Ross St. Brown. Yeah. Like, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:57:59 You don't think that he was able to be so successful. Again, it helped that Hawkinson, I i think went for like 170 yards to touchdowns um but yeah look jared goff 26 fantasy points per game at home 41 against this team last year like you said stafford just you know beat them up they're getting healthier but i don't know if it's a if it's a addition by or subtraction by addition um if jamal adams plays because he was bad last year in coverage or a bad last time he's played in coverage, you know, so he may not be at a hundred percent coming back. Um, yeah, I, I like Jared golf a lot. I really do. I think it's going to be a good game for him. And you know, last week he just missed the second touchdown. If he got two touchdowns, you know, it's probably a no brainer that you're starting him this week. The fact that he's under 60% started speaks to still where,
Starting point is 00:58:41 you know, people are concerned but i started over gino i started over dac i started over watson i started over richardson um like i said i'm i'm almost there with with fields he's gonna have a big game i've got it richardson fields golf and uh it's not jamal adams that would make me sweat with golf witherspoon their rookie first round pick a cornerback is gonna play and it's his game, and we'll see how he does. And I'm sure he'll get challenged and all that. But I think that that'll give Seattle a little bit more confidence to blitz. I don't know how good they'll do blitzing because they didn't do very well against the Rams last week, and now they've got this fortress to get past
Starting point is 00:59:18 in the Detroit offensive line. So I think Goff's got a shot to – he's not going to do what he did last year. Last year, he went bonkers in the fourth quarter. He was terrible for the first three quarters against Seattle. This year, I think he'll be a lot more balanced. I think 250 and two is absolutely on the table. You guys, like you said,
Starting point is 00:59:35 you have Jacob Gibbs or Jameer Gibbs as your highest rank running back in this game. You have Gibbs 12th in PPR. Heath has him 19th in PPR, but still that's ahead of Montgomery. In non-PPR, you guys do have David Montgomery ahead of Jameer Gibbs. I assume in half PPR, you will go with Gibbs over Montgomery. We are expecting a bigger role for Jameer Gibbs,
Starting point is 00:59:56 and Ken Walker is also a starter, but more in the low end, around 20th or so. Start St. Brown, Josh Reynolds um or would you start josh reynolds or gus edwards reynolds reynolds and ppr would you start josh reynolds or pacheco i kind of like pacheco this week so i would start pacheco. Reynolds and PPR, Pacheco and none. What about half? And it's really close and none. You'd be very surprised to know that they both had the same amount of catches. Yeah, four, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And then how do you feel, Laporta or Luke Musgrave this week? I like Laporta this week. I would start Laporta over Musgrave. The fact that he had five catches on five targets, I know there were some people complaining he blocked a little bit too much for what the expectation was, but in this matchup, I know Higby did not have
Starting point is 01:00:51 the big game. I still think Seattle's going to be struggling against tight ends. This feels like here's all our new toys. We're going to put them all on display today. Jared Goff's going to work with Jameer Gibbs a little bit more. He's going to work with Laporta a little bit more. We're going to see that production in this matchup. So I like Laporta.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'll take Musgrave over Laporta. Both are low-end starters at tight end. Would love to have either one on my fantasy team. Probably Laporta more so than Musgrave. I can't imagine. What did TJ Hawkinson do against Seattle last year? Huge. Two touchdowns, over 150 yards, 170 yards yards crazy numbers seattle's not going to forget
Starting point is 01:01:29 about that so and then laporta doesn't run the same time as many routes i should say as what i think musgrave will do it's close and if you don't have musgrave and you've got laporta don't feel bad about it just start laporta starting laporta over higby, no problem. Jamie likes the Lions DST. Saints are at the Panthers. Stat of the game number one, Chuba Hubbard out-snapped Miles Sanders 11-2. I think that was a third down stat. Must have been on third down.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And he ran, and Hubbard ran eight routes. Sanders did not run a route on third down. Okay, I'm sorry. This was a third down stat. Basically, Chuba Hubbard was the third down back. There we go. That's stat of the game number one. Stat of the game number two,
Starting point is 01:02:14 the Saints allowed the fewest fantasy points to opposing tight ends in 2022, and they held Chika Konkwo to no catches on two targets, although one of them should have been a 47-yard touchdown on a flea flicker. Saints are really good against tight ends, so you might not want to fall for Hayden Hurst this week. So Laporta, Musgrave, would you start all the rookie tight ends
Starting point is 01:02:33 over all the relevant ones over Hayden Hurst? I think I'm going to land on Musgrave for sure. Probably Laporta too, but not Kincaid. It's a tough matchup, but the one thing that we saw was that Bryce Young still isn't calm in the pocket, loves those short outlet throws, and
Starting point is 01:02:54 Hurst is playing that role for them. And they don't have a lot of explosion in their offense right now. They don't have a lot of speed on the field. Hurst gives them a little bit of it given just size on top of it. They need DJ Chark back in a major way.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Are there any must-starts in this game other than Olave? Jamal Williams. Especially if there's no Kendra Miller. Even if Miller plays, I would still start Williams as a low-end number two running back. Because who knows how much
Starting point is 01:03:24 they'll put on Miller's plate. Sure. Uh, mile Sanders, mile Sanders is a must start and Michael Thomas and three receiver leagues is a must start. What about Rashid Shaheed? I'm not there as a must start guy, but I would not have a problem stashing him just based on what he did last week. And, uh, did you see the clip from inside the NFLfl they sent out derrick are mic'd up no he was begging begging for the the shot play to rashid to hit at the end of the game he's like give me one more give me one more uh he's like quarterback coach it might have been p carmichael but he was he was begging for one more and then they they cut to james he goes yeah yeah and then uh he goes he's like she just just he goes just freaking fly nice that's so cool just freaking run and then when
Starting point is 01:04:13 he hits the play he's like running down the field like just so jacked up it was pretty cool that's awesome um all right car did have a you know decent game 16.6 points but he threw for 305 yards but you guys are not starting Derek Carr this week. I don't mind him. Actually, when I first did my rankings, he was in the top 12. It's not a matchup to fear. J.C. Horn's not there. All three of these receivers, Jawan Johnson's banged up a little bit,
Starting point is 01:04:36 so keep an eye on that, but he's got so many weapons at this point when everybody's healthy. He's going to have some of these type of games, unfortunately, where he throws for a lot of yards and doesn't get multiple touchdowns. I don't think they'll throw a lot in the red zone just based on their history. So that's something you've got to be concerned about. But it's not bad to have Derek Carr to two cubic or super flex.
Starting point is 01:04:56 How much time we have left, Adam? Oh, I don't like where this is going. Fine. A subject for a future podcast. Derek Carr and the Saints math problem when Alvin Kamara comes back in two weeks. Definitely a problem. Definitely a good topic. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I think it's a good thing. Oh, I think it's a good thing for Carr. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a great thing for Carr, actually. No, I think it's bad for Thomas and- Right. I don't know what it means for everybody else. I think Kamara is going to get back to being that touchdown think Thomas and right. I don't know what it means for everybody else. I think,
Starting point is 01:05:25 I think tomorrow is going to get back to being that touchdown guy. All right. Future podcast, future podcast, Michael Thomas or Josh Reynolds. What happens when Cooper cup comes back? We spend some time. Michael Thomas or who?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Or Josh Reynolds. Thomas. Thomas. Michael Thomas or Romeo Dobbs. I think I'm taking Dobbs, but they're close. I think I actually have them flip-flop in both formats. So in PPR, I'd go Thomas. In non-PPR, I'd go Dobbs just because he seems to be a red zone threat right now.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Michael Thomas or George Pickens? Thomas. Thomas. Okay. Starters hit Juwan Johnson. It was fun, Jawan. It was a good ride. No.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Don't be like that. I mean, that's the thing. This is what happens with tight ends. You can't just give up on a guy. I get every tight end after week one. Yeah, right? I mean, we both would. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I would still hold him. I don't want to start him this week, but it depends on what you have. I'm turning him in for one of the rookie tight ends ASAP. That's fine. Yeah. I mean, look, he was drafted not to be a starter, so you ride the hot hand bear.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's the frustrating part with tight ends. Do you have the conviction to stick with them? Because they will have some big games. He had five targets last week. It wasn't like he was completely uninvolved. Yeah. All right. Miles Sanders or Jameer Gibbs?
Starting point is 01:06:43 I have Gibbs higher. I don't know if I'm going to stick with it. I am. I like Gibbs a lot this week. They're back to back. Both top 15. San Francisco is at the Rams. And your stat of the game, Brock Purdy has now...
Starting point is 01:06:56 I think San Francisco is actually at San Francisco based on the crowd. The Rams are at San... Oh, oh. Oh, you're... Okay, no. They are at... I thought I screwed it up. No. They have more fans typically in Los Angeles than the Rams do.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Well, your stat of the game is about Brock Purdy, Mr. Purdy here. He has scored 20 or more fantasy points in six straight regular season games despite throwing for more than 234 yards only once. But one thing that was encouraging last week, you don't want to make too much of one game, 8.3 air yards per pass attempt, way up from what we saw last year from Purdy. It was 6.6.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I wonder if that is two things. Number one, Purdy just in his second season, more comfortable in the offense. That's good. Two, the 49ers wanted to be more explosive. That's a goal that they had this off season. And then pairing that with IUX big game, this is another quarterback that could end up being really great for fantasy
Starting point is 01:07:52 starter set party this week. Definite two quarterbacks that reflects leagues. That's easy. Like I said, I'd start them over Gino. I'm, I'm almost there with, with Watson.
Starting point is 01:08:05 He's, he's as safe as they come. I mean, like you just said it. Every time he steps on the field when he's healthy, he's basically 20 fantasy points. So the floor is right there. And the Rams were awesome last week. Are they going to do it again? Do they have enough to shut down this offense, you know, with a healthy offensive line? And, you know, you go back to the first game that Christian McCaffrey really played.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Remember what he did against the Rams? He threw a touchdown. He caught a touchdown. He ran for a touchdown. Like it was just amazing. So they, they, they should be able to,
Starting point is 01:08:34 we're going to say this a lot. They should be able to do whatever they want to most weeks, you know, unless they're playing a juggernaut of a defense, they don't have many of those on their schedule. So I love that the Rams were awesome last week. I just think this is a much different opponent and we're going to see it. Rock Purdy still do what he does.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You know, there was an OMG moment last week when Trent Williams was down and it didn't look good at the time. He's practicing full on Thursday. That offensive line is at full strength. Adam, you asked earlier in the show, like, what do we do when we rank players and move them up or down versus Thursday night guys? Purdy is going to be right behind Cousins in my rankings. I'm falling for him. I think he's going to be great. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Start McCaffrey. Which Niners wide receiver do you prefer, Debo or Ayuk? Still Debo. I think there'll be some market correction coming, but they're both starters. Both starters, I have Ayuk higher. More upside. Would you start them over the Seahawks receivers?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Not DK. I don't know how far I'm going to drop DK. Okay. 49er sandwich. DK, IUK, Debo, Lockett. What is it again? DK. Oh, good. That is a 49er sandwich. DK, Ayuk, Debo, Lockett. What is it again? DK. Good.
Starting point is 01:09:47 That is a 49er sandwich. Most people would say Seahawks sandwich. Seahawks sandwich. But no, very good. Seahawks are the bread. Yep, yep. How about Kittle? Start or sit?
Starting point is 01:09:58 George Kittle now 36 games. In his last 36 games, he has 40 or fewer yards and 21 of them. I just traded for him, right? Yeah. He's going to be the best tight end in fantasy football history. Um, no,
Starting point is 01:10:13 it's a, it's a good matchup for him hoping that he scores. I have him as a top five tight end, not because I traded for him, but because who the hell else are you going to start a tight end? I got a comment here in the chat. I want to read. Oh, these are never bad.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Sit Matthew Stafford. I understand getting away from the running backs for the Rams, but the passing game and Stafford, you know, it's hard to trust him, but he's not going to throw for zero yards. Someone's going to have a big game. Someone's going to have a good game, right? Well, I shouldn't say that. Very often there are teams that have no good wide receivers. It happens.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Is that going to happen? Are they going to be that bad where Atwell's not a guy we should start or Nakua's not a guy we should start if he plays? I think it's twofold. One, they're definitely going to have a worse performance if the San Francisco defense is the San Francisco defense
Starting point is 01:11:01 from what we saw last week. But in terms of, should we start these guys? We were talking about two guys that were less than 10% rostered as of Tuesday. Like, unless you're stuck and granted again, you know, Christian Watts, not being there, Cooper cup, not being there, you know, you have some flex decisions. If there's no Aaron Jones or Austin Eckler, I get it. And they're going to get their targets but is is Puka going for 10 for 119 again I would probably say it's almost cut those numbers in half and well maybe the same thing I would say multiply them by two okay 20 catches 238 yards on 30 targets you know so they're not going to get shut out at least i don't expect them to so is it you know
Starting point is 01:11:48 some random touchdown that happens you know cam acres falls in the end zone because they like him in short yardage situations is it tyler haigby scores and matthew stafford goes one touchdown two interceptions like they just went into just went into Pittsburgh and completely annihilated the Steelers. Yeah. Are we, is it easy just to say, sit Kyron Williams and can makers like that? Yes. It's easy to sit everybody on the Rams. The Rams scored 23 points in two games against the 49ers last year. Matthew Stafford and Cooper cup played both games.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Cup was awesome in both of the games. Stafford was not. Stafford totaled one touchdown. I can't just, if, if Makua plays, I can't just outright sit him. I agree. I think he's at best a number three receiver, though. He's a starter in three receiver leagues. He's a flex in PPR if you don't have anybody else.
Starting point is 01:12:35 But you just have to lower expectations. And again, now there's film on him. And so if the 49ers are going to try and take something away, they feel like their run defense, I'm sure, can,'m sure, don't have to put eight men in a box. Seven guys can defend this Rams rush attack. Dave, you know where we got to get going again? I bet they don't blitz that much. I think they use their front four as much as possible.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Well, that's going to be every play. I don't think they'll need to blitz, and that'll help them overall. Never mind what I was going to say. And Tyler Higbee is top 10. Jamie, so I'm in the top 10? No, he's coming out. So Heath is high on Higbee,
Starting point is 01:13:13 but not Dave and Jamie. Giants at Cardinals. Before I get to that, here's this comment from the chat. You guys are my favorite podcast, but I can't stand your scared low takes on Brees Hall. I agree, Maximilian. They were going to be wrong about Hall.
Starting point is 01:13:32 I am a kid in the Hall. I'm starting Brees Hall in the zero leagues I have him in. Just want to call out Dave and Jamie. Well, who's scared now for not drafting? Yeah. Stupid. Giants at Cardinals. My internet froze at the right time there.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Oh, okay. I already gave the stat about Daniel Jones does well against bad opponents, which we expect the Cardinals to be. They weren't so bad against Sam Howell. But Daniel Jones is just outside the top 12. He's like right there. Right around 12 to 14 for everybody. Start Barkley.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Any interest in a Giants wide receiver? I'll start Darren Waller. You have Waller as your number one wide receiver, tight end. Jamie third, Heath fourth. So start Waller. James Conner, haven't mentioned his name yet. James Conner or Miles Sanders? Waller. James Connor, haven't mentioned his name yet. James Connor or
Starting point is 01:14:25 Miles Sanders? Sanders, but it's close. I don't love either one of them. I think I might move them both down a little bit. And in PPR, I might end up with Connor over Sanders. I'm encouraged by the work that they gave Connor last week. He just didn't do
Starting point is 01:14:41 a ton with it. 4.4 yards per carry. That must be like a... Yeah. Huge. He's not going to rip off big runs typically, but he gets a ton of runs, ton of carries,
Starting point is 01:14:51 ton of work. So would you start James Conor or Michael Thomas? Conor. Conor. James Conor or Tyler Lockett? Conor. Conor.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Any interest in Marquise Brown? No. Any interest in Zach Ertz, who had 10 targets last week and should have had a touchdown? Deeper League. Six for 20 PR only. Six for 21 on 10 targets.
Starting point is 01:15:17 I was trying to be nice. You got to ruin that. Well, look at Monkey D. Luffy said, Daniel Jones sucks. That's not cool. Wow, we found Heath's burner. Yeah. Yeah, he sure did last sucks. That's not cool. Wow, we found Heath's burner. Yeah. Yeah, he sure did last week.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Hopefully they can bounce back. And you guys have the Giants DST, seventh for Jamie, fourth for Dave. But you see what happened, though. Heath loved Daniel Jones last week. I don't know why. I mean, even I didn't like Daniel Jones last week. Yeah, I was...
Starting point is 01:15:43 Well, his rationale was his pass volume would go up when he's trailing points, chasing points. Yeah. He was chasing points a lot. Yeah. Okay, that's it for that chapter. And Zach Brooke has a Kirk Cousins stat he'd like to share. Producer Zach, what would you like to tell us about Kirk Cousins?
Starting point is 01:16:04 So I got it right here. So Kirk Cousins is the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for 700-plus yards on 70% completions over the first two games of the season and lose both. Wow. He's off to an incredible start. They have no run game. He might have his best fantasy.
Starting point is 01:16:23 They're not ashamed of it at all. This is another strike against Madison, and we probably should have talked about it earlier. They've thrown at least 73% of the time in each of their first two games. Yeah. All right. We expect something different, though. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's crazy. Just the number is insanely high. Well, I said it. Last year, the split, they won like 11 games last year, whatever it was. But the splits that Dalvin Cook carries, wins versus losses were incredibly different. They're 0-2. So, you know, that's just not good for Madison.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Okay, we have to go. We will talk to you. We have a mailbag coming up in an hour. If you want to watch it on YouTube at 11 a.m. Eastern, or you can hear it on Saturday. To Jamie and Dave and Zach, I'm Adam. Thank you guys for contributing, and thank you all for watching and listening.
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